Transcript of But They're Not Filming: Wednesday, April 8th, 2026 New

Good morning, girlies. It's The Toast. It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts.

It's your favorite show, the fast 5 things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's The Toast.

I sound amazing.

Welcome back to The Toast and happy Wednesday. It is hump day. Don't forget to hump someone you love. And speaking of somebody that I love, And speaking of somebody who's climbed so many mountains in her life— humps— you think it's Jacqueline— no, it's Jacqueline Follet.

Wow, thank you so much for that beautiful introduction, Claudia. Really has me reminiscing. You know, we've done a lot of reminiscing. We recorded the Patreon yesterday. It was like the Newlywed Game but for sisters, and it was about our childhood to like see—

we had whiteboards to see if we remember things the same way.

And so I've just been— if I could buy a house on Memory Lane. I've been living on Memory Lane, you know.

I've been living on a prayer. Can I tell you why? Why?

Because you parked in the shade again?

Worse. Something so terrible is happening that you don't even know about.

Okay.

And if I, like, if I'm a little short with you today, or I'm like a little on edge, just like be patient with me, okay?

Okay. Can I guess?

You're never going to guess, but sure.

Does it have to do with a mouse?

No. Oh my God. Okay, things could be worse.

Yeah, things—

thank you for putting things in perspective. No, no. Guess what Ben has?

Hmm, guess what Ben has? Not COVID.

Worse.

Uh, the flu?

Worse.

Lice? Worse. Worse than lice?

When I say it, you'll know that it's worse than lice.

Worms?

I feel like you're missing like a big part of like my and Ben's history. I wasn't even doing the C sound, I was doing the norovirus. I am in hell.

Oh wow. Are you sure it's noro?

So this morning Ben was like, it's noro. And I'm like, well, you ate a big bowl of hummus before bed, so it's probably that.

It's probably the hummus working its way.

However, like the more I see, the more I know, the more I learn, it's giving noro. Now I'm like just convinced that I have it. I'm okay right now.

Here's the thing. If you have to ask, you don't have it.

No, maybe it's just like hitting me late. I'm sort of like waiting for the other shoe to drop, which is why I'm like, if my stomach drops in the middle of this episode, like if the episode ends early, just know that's what happened.

You will likely get it because you're living with someone who has it and it's highly contagious. But like, you obviously don't have it right now or else we wouldn't be doing a show. We wouldn't be sitting on white chairs.

Well, I'm taking like extraordinary precautions.

You know, I just wanna say, I think lice is worse.

No, it's not.

Noro is like 48 hours, the worst 48 hours ever. But lice is like—

lice is very inconvenient.

A 3-week journey to get rid of it.

Yeah, sorry, but you don't experience any pain.

No.

Oh, I think I'd rather— not like, not that I'm asking for anything, but like, if given the choice, you choose lice? No, I choose Noro.

I choose lice.

Wow.

Yeah. So yeah, just sort of, you know, a plane has hit the tower of my home, you know? I'm in hell, true hell. And it's upsetting because like I was doing so much last night to prepare for the show.

Is that what like kids are saying? A plane has hit the tower?

Yeah, well they say like when something like, okay, like when something—

It's a little crazy.

It is, and they use it like satirically, like when something like happens that's really not a big deal but the person acts like it's a big deal, they say, A plane has hit the second tower.

Got it. Like that George Bush meme.

Yeah, I mean, I guess that like the memory of 9/11 isn't fading with the new generation. Like, that's good.

No, I don't like it. I'm going to decline. I'm going to decline usage of that phrase.

Say less, bestie.

And I feel like the, the fact that Gen Z or whomever is saying it is because they don't have like an appropriate memory of 9/11, because if they did, they wouldn't like make jokes. So flippantly.

So you're talking about me?

No, no, you're just, you're just, I'm just teaching. You're going with them. I'm a teacher, uh, but I will decline your stage.

What do you see? I see Jacqueline Follet looking at me. Every time I read that book, I get crazier and crazier. Yeah, I got the Tony of that book because I can't read it anymore, so I wanted the Tony to read it. Lo and behold, I put that little bear on the Tony box. Who's the narrator? Gwyneth Paltrow.

Yeah.

Now Gwyneth is getting some hate. I don't know if you saw.

No, I, I don't like— I don't engage. I don't find myself in those circles.

Me neither.

My algorithm knows better.

People are just unhappy with her performance on the Tony. Um, I really appreciate that she took it hella fucking seriously, like she was doing voices. Um, sometimes I didn't even recognize that it was her. 'Polar bear, polar bear, what do you—' Like, she was being funny. I like it. It adds like a dynamic element. The different voices sounds like multiple people. You guys just don't appreciate Gwyneth Paltrow, and I always have. That's a fun fact about me.

No, and like, do you have an Oscar? Do you have an Oscar? Then I don't want to hear it. Do you have a billion-dollar company? Then I don't want to hear it. Like, should we have an Oscar-winning actress voicing our Tonys? Like, this is the sort of prestige we can only dream for Tonys. Like, Tonys should take over the world. They're the most amazing toy ever invented. Like, don't clown on the people who are like giving back to the Tony community. Yeah, I also realized like my next gig needs to be voicing a Tony.

And actually, I did want to voice the brown bear one. I was for sure that there wasn't one, and then there was, and it was voiced by Gwyneth Paltrow. So I was humbled real quickly. But I'll take something lesser. I'll take, you know, Thomas the Train.

Here's a couple ideas. One, like a toast Tony, because a lot of kids— I've, I've been like now getting recognized by like kids who are like, you're from the podcast. When I was in Dallas, a couple people were like quoting the song, that couple kids. That's cute. Yes, so cute. She's like, you're from my podcast. I was like, thanks, queen. She's a very precocious young girl. Did you spit some bars? I said, good morning, girlies.

No, you know what I do? Live performance.

I give them a little— I sound amazing. I give them a little that.

Oh wow, were they freaking?

Yeah, yeah, seeing the artist. Do his work. So we could do a Toast Tony where we do our toast tunes, where we put out— but we have to put out our album first.

But like, doing voice work is like a, like a goal of mine. Um, so like, I, I would get whatever they're looking for a narrator for, like, I'll do it. Like, I'm really not—

and then separately, we need to take care— we need a Camper Tony. Okay, so you're stealing my idea?

Like, my dream is now your dream?

No, no, first of all, I've been on the Tony train, and you can look through my emails. Camper Tony has been discussed.

Has it? Yeah, it has. Honestly, I feel like Tonys is so big now.

Tonys is so big, and I, I want the world for them. Truly, I want everything for Tonys.

Like, getting them kids off them screens. The more—

the bigger Tonys gets, like, the more licenses and stuff they get, like, the more characters that are available. Like, these random characters. Like, I'm still waiting for the Babar Tony that's not in French, right? Right. See, you play— can we get a Babar Tony not in French?

I did something so crazy last night.

You watched The Real Housewives of Long— Rhode Island? Of Long Island.

I fucking wish. Um, yeah, I watched— what are we calling it? Rowry?

Rowry. I watched a little too, cuz like Summer House sort of led me to watching, and I was like, oh, everyone's talking about it, let me like meet the ladies. So I met them. I met them too.

It's going to take me at least 2 months to tell them apart. It's so funny, when Salt Lake City premiered, I remember not being able to tell apart Lisa Barlow and, um, Meredith Marks. And now like they look so different. I don't know how I ever thought— so maybe I'll get to that place. But when I tell you they got 6 ladies who look exactly like— there's just 2 younger ones and 2 and like 4 older ones. Um, I started the younger ones being Rosie and Ashley, and also Rosie— oh, 3 younger ones. And, um, Kelsey, the one with that lives in the house with the 40 TVs, she's very pretty and very interesting. She's like not doing a good job of like defending her lifestyle, but I, I like, I like I like meeting interesting people, and so they certainly chose an interesting bunch. My overall take is that I, I heard a lot of really good things about it. I haven't watched the second episode yet, and I didn't think it was like that amazing, but it's good. And I think that there's— they're there. I think the women have like a lot of interesting backstory, and they all really know each other, which is great, except for Ashley.

She doesn't know anyone. Um, that's one. Two, I do feel like it's kind of a replacement for New Jersey. I can't see a world in which Bravo needs both of them. When I thought of Rhode Island, I did not think maybe I know nothing about Rhode Island, clearly, because I, I think of it as— I don't even know what I thought of it, but I feel like Newport, The Breakers, you know, the Vanderpilts, like, you know, field trip. The show was reminding me a lot of the 5 minutes I watched of Members Only Palm Beach.

That's not a good endorsement.

So I don't feel— especially then Dolores was on the episode because her twin is on the show.

Her twin?

I don't know.

And they're not related. Or Alicia. They're not related, but Alicia's related to her husband.

Oh yeah, that was funny.

But not Dolores.

Yeah, I don't think, I think like time will tell. One of these franchises is gonna shake out. Like they're really, it's so similar, you know, like the big extensions, very like sort of like sparkly, tacky kind of taste, you know. There's not a lot of money, which, you know, I guess like Real Housewives has left it.

There were a couple nice homes. I saw like a couple castle-looking establishments.

There were two nice homes, and one of them is the girlfriend who— Yeah, she's on a yacht. Her boyfriend doesn't— She's on a yacht. She's getting kicked out. Yeah, and then the other girl, yeah, lives on the water. She was barely in the episode. The one in the crowd of kids on the boat? Yes, Liz. Mm-hmm. But like, that's no longer a requirement to be a housewife. Like, I think they had a really hard time finding people with actual money. Even though I found that to be the most interesting part. So you sort of have to let that go. It's not aspirational anymore. It's just a reality show. You know, it could be on any franchise or any network. Um, so I'm gonna continue on with it. I like that, um, Ashley Iaconetti's on it. It makes it feel like you, you have a familiar—

it's like a friend.

You have a friend at school. At least I know her name. Yeah. Like I don't know any of their names.

It was good. Okay. Yeah, maybe I'll get, um, swindled into watching it again via my television.

I also watched Summer House, which we can do in the TV recap.

Well, actually, programming— like, I've sort of reprogrammed, recalibrated the show for today, and the Summer House recap is going to be within the first story because the first story is like Summer House in the city, and like, that's what everyone's talking about. It's like, why would we move it to the end?

And then one more absolutely bonkers thing happened to me last night that I didn't even tell you about.

Okay, it better be.

No, this is actually fucking crazy. Ready? Guess who commented on my TikTok. You're never going to guess.

Um, man or woman?

I can't answer that question.

Ooh, Caitlyn Jenner?

No, I'm fucking— I'm fucking crying. I can't answer that question, not because of like any gender like issues, more so because It's not necessarily a person.

It's a concept. The Brown Bear Official Program.

It's a program.

It's a program. Max and Ruby. Oh, I wish.

No. Ready? 4 words for you. ChatGPT. What? Yeah. So I made a TikTok. I thought it was really smart of me, actually. I was doing my makeup and I got the new Haus Labs foundation and concealer. I've never bought it before. Had no idea what my shade was. So I asked ChatGPT, I'm like, this is my face and this is like some other foundations that are pretty good. And they told me exactly what to get. So I did a TikTok like letting ChatGPT do my makeup and it worked flawlessly. I'm wearing it today. I was wearing it yesterday. I'm obsessed with both of the products and people in the comments were sort of lauding me as just a pioneer of AI. And then ChatGPT chimed in. Obviously it was a big enough video that ChatGPT came across her desk and yeah, Chat commented on my TikTok. Very cool.

You know, I wear Haus Labs foundation. Did you know that about me?

Um, I remember we had a conversation about it, and I remember you were talking about how it was like this sort of kind of challenging time for you switching from your OG foundation. I don't— I didn't know that you like stayed there.

I stayed there, and it wasn't even intentional. I was gonna go— I wanted just like a little bit of a lighter foundation, and I wound up like— I use it every day.

I feel like it's been a while since we had a State of the Union.

I feel like people didn't know that about me.

It's very, it's very Gen Z of you. Honestly, it is very Gen Z. I feel like we haven't had a State of the Union on celebrity makeup brands in such a long time because like the ever-changing landscape. Yeah. House Labs really like dug themselves out of like when she first launched that brand, it was turnt. It was like an Amazon brand. And then Sephora got involved and like very slowly it's become like a parji brand. I would say it's up there now with like, I feel like Rare Beauty has taken a little bit of a dip. There was a time where it was like the biggest. Yeah. Rhode is there now. Like some, some brands come and go. Some are, you know, some will always be like Fenty. And some will never take off, like R.E.M. Beauty. Yeah, yeah, correct.

Well, are you ready to get into the stories?

And J.Lo Beauty.

Yeah, yeah.

Is that real? Yeah, it was skincare. I don't know if they're still in business because I—

was it Glow? No, it's called J.Lo Beauty.

Wasn't— maybe that was one of the products. It was J.Lo Beauty. Um, it was skincare, I think, like, for mature women.

No, I think you're confusing it with like A-Rod's men's skincare because they were dating at the time.

No, I'm not, Jackie. She had a skincare line.

No, no, but like, I don't know about the maturity.

I don't think they ever had one sale, so I think that's probably why they closed down.

Interesting. Well, that hasn't stopped other brands. Like who? Name them. Name them. Who hasn't had one sale? I have to circle back with you on that, but I'm not afraid to say if I can think of I don't think—

I didn't think you were afraid.

I'm not ever afraid. Never. Don't be afraid, Jackie. I'm not afraid.

Something so random that our family like quotes, and it's funny because every family has like different movie and TV show quotes that like resonate and they always reference in their modern lives. And for us, some like the weirdest thing that we always quote— you can't say the word afraid without— no, I'm afraid.

What's it from?

This episode? No, Suite Life of Zack and Cody, where London is learning how to swim and they're like, oh my God, I can't believe you don't know how to swim. And so she's learning to swim and they're like, okay, now take your hands off the wall or whatever. And she's like, no, I'm afraid. It's like the most random episode I'm talking about. Random. We say it all the time.

That's so crazy.

That's like, I can learn from 'em, but I can learn.

That was like a really sad scene.

Yeah, actually it was from Law and Order. This girl was like, I think she was like mentally handicapped, right?

Is something with the scissors?

No, that was a different episode. Wait, which is the scissors? Olivia's going to know.

Oh, I stabbed her in the back!

I stabbed him in the back! I stabbed him in the back! No, but there's like a whole monolog with that one. Hold on.

Where they stabbed her in the back?

Law and Order episode, scissors, stabbed in the back. It's like this little girl with a black bob and she like kills someone skin deep I stabbed him in the back. I heard him.

So then I grabbed the scissors and I stabbed him in the back. I heard him in the back.

Grabbed the scissors. And then she takes a dramatic pause. I took the— grab the scissors, then I stabbed him in the back. And I think she was from Long Island. And she's from Pensacola.

That's not much bigger than Maysville.

Law and Order. Like, I'm never gonna find this random quote.

Why would you? Unless it's stuck with anyone else.

Yes, this quote appears in Law Order: Special Victims Unit, episode Alien. The lines are spoken by a young girl named Emma Boyd during a tearful confession. I was mad, I was so mad, I grabbed the scissors and I hurt him in the back with them. He fell down and hit his head. Cracking the fuck up. The boy was paralyzed.

I was so mad.

Oh my God, and I think the girl— correct me if I'm wrong, I'm gonna double check— the actress is the little girl from Jersey Girl with Ben Affleck.

Oh, that I don't know about. That, that I don't know.

I never saw that movie. I'm 90% sure. Ah, 1000%. Yep, I'm right. Confirmed. Like, we're constantly delivering facts on this, on this podcast.

Yeah. Okay, now that we've quoted enough random episodes of Besties, Emma Boyd, the great Emma Boyd, we can get into the Fast Five stories that you da-dew need to know.

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I like that. Our first story: In the House—

Trail— In the House— In the City trailer drops.

That's also a good title.

In the House— So In the City, the show that follows the Summer House cast and friends into the fall in the city, the trailer has dropped. The show is centered around Lindsay Hubbard, Kyle, and Amanda, along with some new castmates. It really focuses on like couples and married people in the city. Now Carl has spoken out about why he was not on. Okay, I saw that clip today.

It was kind of sad.

Yeah, but he said like they weren't really focusing on single people, and he was like—

he said he did film though, and he was like kind of cut out.

Yeah, and he's hoping to like maybe be in the second season. I think he's gonna need to get a girlfriend. Like, I, I— right, I mean, it makes sense. Like, The Valley doesn't have like actually single people. They may have divorced people or with children who are navigating that season of their life, but it's not for singles.

Like, sorry, singles do not apply. And I feel like for so many years, reality TV really like was exclusively for single people. If you were like in a relationship, you were considered boring and sort of like set to the side, out to pasture. Yeah, I love that Bravo has this like genre of shows, The Valley, Persian Version, now In the City, which is like Housewives is older and then Summer House, like those younger shows where everyone's single, like Southern Charm is younger. And I feel like now they have this sort of in-between genre, which I really like. And I'm sorry, Carl, like I, when he was watching I was watching his podcast today. I thought it was really sweet and I felt bad for him, but it's like, it's time for the married people to finally get some attention, you know, get some love, people with young children.

But it also makes sense because it's like, and that's like our age right now, and it feels like very convenient, like, oh, these shows are happening when we're in this moment too. But I think it's successful. A lot of their viewers like are, you know, millennial women who started watching Vanderpump Rules and were like living for it and now like are settling down and having kids. And like, we find this sort of content interesting.

And also like Secret Lives of Mormon Wives has been like huge for the genre.

And The Valley, I would say The Valley sort of like invented the genre. Yeah. And I think it's great. And also like those people who were on Vanderpump Rules, like yeah, eventually they got married and had kids. And I, I want to say this is such a credit to Lindsay Hubbard because I— if she didn't go and have a baby, like this show would not exist. They literally made a show for her because she had a baby and they couldn't go to Summer House on television. So like Slay mama.

I caught up on Summer House. She's such a bright spot. Like, she's the— she doesn't add to the drama at all, but like, she's so fucking funny that it really would have been such a waste for them to not have been able to utilize her in any way. So I love that the show was built around her. I do have a couple of notes when it comes to like the cast and crew. I think like, I think the Summer House audience like really doesn't like Danielle, and I don't think we needed her. Um, Danielle's back and Andrea's back.

Which I think people have really missed him and loved him.

And there is this like mystery around the girl Lexi that he like left the show for. Like, I think that he's perfect for it. It looks like an enormous cast. The cast photo, it must have been 20 people. I like couldn't even— didn't know where to look. That's a little overwhelming, and I feel like I don't love that. But all in all, I don't know if this show would have been as— I mean, it's not a success yet, but the trailer, like, everyone's obsessed with it. This whole Scamander thing is kind of the best thing to happen to Summer House. I don't know what the future of In the City would have looked like. I think maybe it would have been like a smaller valley, but I do think now it's huge because we're all watching this season of Summer House looking for clues. The City was filmed after that, so we're all looking at clues there.

I think already they had a season because like Kyle and Mana got divorced on the season, right? Right. Um, so it was already like, okay, that's where we'll go to— like, actually the relationship will end in In the City. Like, when they're done filming, I think they're officially separated. So yes, more clues for like Wes Manda in the trailer. Like Wes is in it and they're hugging, and we can look for crumbs. Um, some of the other cast members include Nick Barber and his wife Yvonne. Then do you remember Whitney Franzway? Of course I do, on The Bachelor. And she's honestly like—

keep up with her sister on TikTok.

Oh yeah, they're both like influencers. Influencers. But her sister's a really big influencer, and she has like a TikToker.

She has a baby, and her and her man do like cute couple content. I think he cooks. They remind me a lot of me and Ben.

Like, oh cute. Well, Whitney's boyfriend Kenny is, uh, also an investor in Loverboy. Oh, interesting. Yeah, he's Kyle's friend and a fellow Loverboy investor, so that's like a real tie. Plus she's like has reality TV roots, so that's actually a pretty good cast.

I love Bravo tapping old Bachelor contestants. I feel like that's an untapped market, and I think that it's a really good idea. These are professionals. Those girls when they were— that was like OG. Remember Unreal? Like, it was cutthroat.

They know how to be on TV. Yeah, especially someone like Ashley I. She's a veteran. She's a veteran. Um, Whitney, like, I think sort of coasted through her season, and like, she was very forgettable.

I think she still is like around because she's friends with a lot of the girls.

She's very like not controversial. So like, I don't think she's actually like been— had the experience, the reality TV experience yet. So I wonder how this would be for her. But like, Jasmine Goode is on The Valley. I feel like people forget that she's also from The Bachelor.

Guess I like her. That's so funny.

Yeah. Then we have Danielle Olivera, who's formerly from Summer House with her mans Ian Heavey.

I feel like she had a boyfriend just so she could like be eligible for the show.

Yeah, you know what, I don't mind that she's here. I'm going to give her space and the opportunity because every show needs a villain, first of all. Yeah. And, and now she's having a moment cuz she said 5 years ago she didn't trust Amanda.

Like, oh please, I haven't seen anybody giving her— like, she was just saying mean things about everyone. Sorry, a broken clock is right twice a day. No, you haven't seen that clip?

Like, oh no, I haven't. This is what everyone's doing now, which is so frustrating to me. They're clipping old stuff from Summer House anytime someone looks sideways at Amanda. Danielle clocked Amanda. Yeah, right, right, right.

Amanda. Okay, Paige like did clock Amanda in that reunion clip. That was kind of crazy.

Yeah, I feel like she was giving a dirty look at Wes. West, of course.

But now, I don't know, but now with the Craig stuff, like, maybe she found Amanda to be like disloyal.

Yeah, but like, but then they continued to be like best friends, bed bugs, etc. So, bless you.

I have heard that a lot of the friendships on Summer House are a little like exaggerated in the sense, um, when it comes to Amanda. I've heard that like she actually like goes really MIA during the offseason, and a lot of the girls are like really, really friends. And I think that's why Paige said on Giggly Squad she like was speaking in code and everybody's like decoding it.

She's like, well, Sierra's our real friend, so Amanda's not.

Yeah, I've heard that like, um, Amanda like doesn't talk to any of the girls when she doesn't—

like they're not working. I don't know, it's just like convenient. Like, oh, and now all of a sudden that she's on the outside, none of us ever liked her, we're friends with her.

It's true. Oh, of course. But it does kind of make it a little bit more understandable how maybe she could stab Sierra in the back. Like maybe they weren't that close.

Yeah, for sure. But it's just like, now even all the fans, every— and I would have loved to seen last night's episode and the reaction to it. Yes, yes.

Before Wes Mandeville, because of that, my jaw hit the floor. It actually takes a lot to shock me. Like, when I heard Ben reiterating the story of what Sabrina said, I was, I was floored. And I love his directness, being like, why did you say that?

Yeah, he was like really upset. But also like, he moves kind of weirdly because, yeah, like he did go skinny dipping with Amanda. And then this summer when like Bailey made a joke Ben was in love with Amanda. Like, he got so mad, more mad than Amanda, who's like the one who's married. And he's like, why would you think I'm going after my mate's missus?

And not my mate's missus, the mate's missus.

And, um, I would have loved to see how the audience reacted to last night's episode and like thought like if Ben was in the wrong and Amanda was in— like, now that Amanda, you know, nothing she can say or do is right, like everyone's gonna pile on. But I just feel like, of course, I don't know if everyone would— I feel like people would have like defended her and just thought Ben was like weird and the new guy being weird, or like she didn't say it. No, I think she said it, obviously, because also next week, like, the girl confronts her. That girl was just like— she's— she hit the ground running, you know?

She wants a career and she's gonna get it. Yeah, yeah, it was a good episode. I'm like, uh, so I haven't watched week to week, so just like a big catch-up, I want to say a few things. You're caught up, or you like—

are— jump back in?

I skipped a couple episodes. That's fine. Um, the way I like need Carl and Bailey— like, I don't know why he's so resistant to like hooking up with someone in the house. She's very sound of mind. She's not like a crazy drinker. I think that has to be like a consideration for Carl. Um, and I, I like her a lot. I think she's like really honest and funny. She's definitely a shit starter. She like exaggerates. I like how she said, I don't lie, I exaggerate. Like, she does. Um, and I kind of like them together, even though I, I don't know why he feels so much older.

Yeah, no, he doesn't feel so much old. I actually— I like them together too. I think he's just like scared, period, and she's like, you know, a little bit awkward. And so like, no one's going to like make the move, but I think that they could be nice together. I think she's really adorable and like earnest. Adorable. I think she's a nice girl.

Her friend Levi, like— Levi. Levi can come on Namesake.

Yes, Levi can come.

I don't know if we want her, but she can.

Well, I feel bad for Levi because there's no reason why Levi shouldn't. And like, I think Levi is just like a very like strong, self-assured person because like she doesn't care that she's not on the show sometimes. She's not starting shit to be on the show more. She loses her spot in the house when Lindsay comes. Like it's either Lindsay or her every weekend, and you— she doesn't like desperately cling to her spot, like starting drama to stay in the house. Like I kind of like her energy. She's just like a supportive friend and she's like, yeah, I'll come on your show, sure.

Yeah, agreed. Um, and you might have to help me like fill in some blanks cuz like this girl Dara who's coming in at the second to last weekend as a full-time castmate and has a boyfriend already? Like, I'm so confused.

So there was a singles event in the city. I saw that. What— everyone had to bring a single friend. Wes invited Dara, this girl that he— because they used to date— hook up with. And I think she was meant to be cast on the show. I think that was him like bringing her into the show. So, so late? No, no, this was like a few weeks ago. Okay. And then that following weekend, she came out to the house like for the day party, and she was flirting with Ben and KJ. She thought that they both were cute.

I remember the big flirty day.

The big flirty day. She's like checking out her options, everybody likes her, and then literally that week her and KJ start dating and now they're like serious and they're still dating today. That's nice. Yeah, so like now she's coming in as like KJ's girlfriend, but I think she was always meant to get cast on the show. And I feel like they are— there's— the room is at— the house is at capacity, so unless someone's not there, like no one's getting a room. But now that Dara doesn't need her own room, like right, right, that works. But yeah, I think she was meant to be on the show and then she wound up like actually dating a cast member.

And I say this every time we talk about Summer House over the last 10 years, I'm just like, I will never get over it. Maybe it's just because like it would never fly if I was there, but like the way that Kyle and Amanda get the master every season, like without question, like I think it's so unfair. Like since season 1, I think there was 1 or 2 seasons where a couple of the girls, like 3 girls shared 1 room, the master, but like Excuse me?

Yeah, then I think they didn't like it. I, I feel like I remember like the AC doesn't work as good there, and I'm sure it's also really loud on the main floor. Yeah, usually like the boys, the new boys sleep on the main floor and like the girls sleep upstairs. I think it's quieter. But I agree, like you get the master, you know, you just got married, fine.

No, for sure. And I think for a while I was like, well, we're two people in a room, but like now there's other couples. A lot of the girls share rooms. Yeah.

No, I don't like— I don't care. And also like You guys, you're not like mom and dad of the house. Like, you're seriously like scary and scarier of the house.

The crazy aunt and uncle in the attic.

Agreed.

Um, so I will now start keeping up weekly because obviously we have so many clues to look for.

Yeah, we have to look for clues. I wonder if they'll change the edit at all. I don't— I felt like they did that too late. I don't think so. I felt like they did that with Scandal, but there was also just so much of the air, and Markel was just like spinning. They were so not smart about it. Like, yeah, they really— when she said to Lala, like, good thing you don't have a man for me to steal.

Like, she's queen. Sorry, she ate down with that.

That was crazy. It was amazing. Um, so what else happened last night on the Summer House? Lindsay's apartment. We need to talk about Lindsay's apartment.

I had seen it before when she moved into it. I was like following very closely. It's an insane apartment.

It's an— I've seen her apartment on Instagram. I've seen her like— but every corner of the apartment is done to the nines, and she has like a foyer. She has so many bookshelves.

She had a piano player, which means she has a piano. Piano. It's an insane apartment. Do you know like what neighborhood it's in? They said Financial District. I don't know if they tell the truth. It's like crazy to tell people where you live.

Oh yeah, but it's in Manhattan. It's not— I thought maybe it was like in Brooklyn or something, like somewhere. It's incredible.

Incredible. Every time I see it on her stories, I'm like in shock. And she's like, it's all for my Gemma girl. I fucking love her. Like, I'm sorry, I love her so much.

And I feel so vindicated because when she was getting so much shit so many years ago, when we just like popped into Summer House to see what was going on, and we were like, yeah, I don't know what's the very beginning.

We took like 5 years off and then we came back with Carl and Lindsay.

I'm like, I don't know what's going on here, but like, I'm like, I agree with Lindsay.

Like, sorry, it just is what it is. Good. We never turned on Lindsay. Like, everyone did. That's So awesome.

But it's so— what's also so funny is I remember when we used to recap it, we'd be like, I don't like Lindsay. Like, she's not my kind of girl. I don't want to be friends with her. I don't like her personality, but she's right. Yes, right.

And now I feel like she's matured so much that we've met her, she's been on the show, but I think if I like went out to dinner with her, I would have a blast.

Yeah. No, it's funny how you— we've like grown to be like more sympathetic.

Her speech thing, she's literally Olivia O'Shea with the speeches. Like, she's hysterical.

I could not get over her place. It was done so beautifully. Like Yeah. Oh my gosh, I, I need to—

I only want the best for her and Gemma girl. I need a house tour.

Can she take me to the—

did you see the music video?

Third floor? I saw about the music video.

Madeline Klein, Margaret Qualley shaking their tushies, very '70s, like, you know. I heard about—

I saw about it, like, I saw the headline and I was like, good.

I saw some clips, it made me feel bad about myself. Good on you, girls. Yeah, I like felt fat, so I didn't watch the whole thing, you know? Yeah, it's called Protecting Your Mental Health. Oh, I want to talk about mental health. Okay, I posted a TikTok yesterday.

Switching gears.

Actually, I take it back, I don't want to talk about mental health.

Oh, switching gears again. Back to Summer House. Back to Summer House. That was all in the Summer House. Oh, we're getting to know Mia more. I think she's great. Oh, cast.

Oh, I love that girl. Yeah. Oh, I love that girl. When she was sitting down for brunch with Lindsay and Amanda, she said something so deeply— oh, oh my God, I actually started crying. She said her mom died a year and a half ago and she just feels so untethered in this world. And she like— oh, I like— I just love her. Like, I love her. I don't really like her boyfriend.

No, me neither. And like, she needs— I'd like— I think she would like be an amazing mom. She's already like a mother to the group, and I think a baby would make her feel so tethered to this world. So like, we need to give her a baby. Someone needs to give her boyfriend like a restaurant contract in New York City so that like he can be local and she can have a baby.

Yeah, I completely agree. Like, having a baby will heal her. Like, hearing her talk about all that, um, I love her so much. Like, I just— I don't know where they found her. She's amazing. She's like Sierra's real friend.

Love that. Love. Yeah. Oh, and Sierra like bought her grandparents' house.

That was so crazy, the thing that she had to go to court, and she did it all under a land trust and her dad doesn't know.

At first, in the last episode, I, I watched the back end of last week last night, so I don't know which is which. But she's saying how her grandparents' house came up for sale, and so she bought it. And like, okay, great. And then it turns out in this episode, we find out that like her dad was the one selling it, and so she like bought it anonymously from her dad. But I didn't realize that like it was from her dad, and that like, I guess— and she doesn't talk to her dad, right? I wonder what would have happened if you like she had wanted to buy it from— like if she said like, Dad, I wonder why she didn't do that. Like what he would have said. Would he have said— because they don't talk. Would he have said no? Probably. Or maybe like hiked up the price, like, because she's a big star. Yeah, because she said she didn't want special treatment, but that could be like positive or negative.

She was spotted out last night at the Euphoria season premiere, right? She, she did an interview— listen— with, um, Sydney Sweeney. Just listen to this. And ex-boyfriend, it's, it's not good. What do you think is the next step?

I honestly, I feel like you ought to get married.

I mean, I would hope so. You got to make it work. You got to make it worth that. I don't know what they're saying.

Something.

Yeah, not just worth too much pain. Yeah. If you steal your friend's ex-boyfriend, it's, it's not good. She was asking her like, if you steal your friend's ex-boyfriend— I think that's also a plot line in Euphoria. Oh, she does. She steals Nate from Maddy.

So Sierra's doing red carpet interview.

Yeah, that's like been a big thing for her recently.

Yeah, that's very cool. But actually, that's a great segue to our next story, which is the Euphoria season 3 premiere headline news is that Sydney Sweeney and Scooter Braun were spotted kissing. At the premiere?

I think that they're cute together. I can't believe Euphoria season 3 is premiering. It's actually been 83 years. It's so crazy. And everyone, like, hates it, right? Zendaya doesn't talk about it in press, has not said one piece. Jacob Elordi, who's, like, actively doing press for Wuthering Heights and stuff, has not. There is something so sinister about the show in general. If you watch it, it's a very dark, anxiety-inducing show. But then also knowing that everyone seems really unhappy on the set, there's something very spooky about the whole thing. And I know that the premiere is like all bright light, we have Sierra from Summer House, but I don't know, there's— I can, I can smell it. Yeah, this will probably be like— and then Barbie Ferreira leaving, like, it's weird.

I feel proud that I'm not engaged in this whatsoever. I clocked it from— I clocked it even though I tried to watch one episode a million years ago, and I was like, this is like so dark and not the way I want to feel when I'm trying to be entertained.

Of course, but as like a mother to, you know, future teenagers, you gotta know what the kids are up to because the kids are not fucking okay.

Uh, sure, but like, this is Hollywood. Like, that's not my life. It's not my life. Like, that's not my life. It's—

when I saw it, it really made me concerned for the younger generation if it's even remotely relatable and like based on—

well, first of all, it's, it's No, like, no, see, no, I definitely have concerns. Definitely keep your eyes and ears open, but like, no, it's such a crazy show.

And now it's—

and I don't even know what happens. I just like, it doesn't have to be that way, you know? Yeah, whatever.

And it's not about— it's not about high school now. The show jumps to the future like 5 or 6 years, you know. Nate and Maddie are married, or Nate and, uh, Cassie are married. Um, she's an OnlyFans model.

I'm excited. Okay, let us know how it is.

I do think it's gonna be like a better show in post-grad, you know? It's too dark to be kids.

It's very upsetting. I agree with that. It already sounds better the way you're describing it.

Yeah, it has like a very underlying spooky tone because like all of this disgusting pornographic and like violent things are happening to kids in high school. Oh yeah.

Well, on the bright side, Sydney and Scooter took their— they didn't walk the carpet together, like, which is fine. Um, but they know it's her big night.

He's more of a BTS kind of guy anyway.

Yeah, but they were like kissing their seats. So cute.

It's funny, I'm like really able to compartmentalize the different parts of Scooter Braun. There are so many eras of him in his career. Of course the Taylor Swift, but then also the Justin Bieber, the manager. But now I really see him because he did like such great work for the Jews. I see him as like this businessman philanthropist who's dating Sydney Sweeney. Like, I, I've literally forgotten everything I know about him up until this point. It's like all been erased. And it's like, yes, that's exactly who she should be dating.

Yeah, she loves a businessman. She's been very consistent in that.

And so in that interview with Sierra, she said she does want to get married.

I wonder if he's open to marriage again. I know.

Oh, did you see that?

I feel like for Sydney, yeah.

Oh, did we talk about this, that his wife was on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills?

No, we talked about that she was spotted with Tom Brady, or like rumored to be dating Tom Brady.

Yeah, I think she was also at, um, Rachel Zoe's party.

I saw a still image of her. Yeah, very beautiful woman.

Very beautiful woman.

Um, are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Secret Lives of Mormon— what? The Secret Lives. But she's not filming. Speaking of, Jen Affleck posted a video that's got rumors swirling. She's very teary and disheveled, saying she's very hopeful for a new life chapter. In a tearful video. So she posted a video sort of saying it's a new chapter, it's a new dawn, it's a new day, it's a new— lots of vagueness, lots of like rubbing her eyes and just saying, you know, she's got married at 19 and she had a baby at 20 and she hasn't discovered who Jen is and she's going through a hard time. And usually when she's in a hard time, she doesn't like share, but she's trying to share and she'll share about the hard time. And people are also saying she's very clearly not wearing her wedding ring. Her hands are all over the video. I want to say she's not wearing any rings, she's not wearing makeup. She is wearing hoops, which means she did put on a little jewelry and skipped the ring. But I don't think she's getting a divorce. I don't think that's what she was trying to signal.

But maybe that's me being naive. But like, that's— I'm sorry, so they just had a baby? Like, seriously, what are you doing? But that doesn't stop these people.

I know, but like, they're getting divorced.

Like, as if your life isn't hard enough right now.

Now you have to give your kids up for half the time.

And also now you have to like go through a divorce or a separation and all this. Like, just stop for a second. I saw a really— like a tweet a while ago that was like, do not make big decisions before your kids turn 2. You're not in a position to make big decisions, whether it's separating or— like, give yourself time. And this is all like barring abuse, which we've not seen. We've not seen that from Zach Affleck. And we've— I mean, I know he did go sit down with Whitney, but like, I'm gonna not hold that against him at the moment.

No, he's obviously like a bad guy, but I think a lot of what this season looked like was like really her more so being like a kind of irrational and a bad decision maker, and him just like going along with whatever she says.

Yeah, she sent him to go talk to Whitney, so she can't be mad at him for that. He also said like production was like wanting him to— I guess they wanted someone to talk to Whitney, and if Jen wasn't gonna go because she was like grieving Dancing with the Stars, um, he had to go. Whatever, I'm not gonna hold that against him. I feel like he's been really supportive.

He's sort of like a puppet. No, and he like—

he was really awful in the first season, but I feel like he actually over the last few years has like understood what his role is going to be, how he can support his wife, and like he's been a good partner. And so I just think the idea of them separating right now, it to me sounds like so fatiguing. Like, as if the last 6 months haven't been stressful enough for her. Even before she had this baby, she had prepartum depression. Like, just sit down.

So I didn't see that tweet, but I saw a TikTok, and it was like all these different girls commenting. Um, it was so interesting. I'd never thought about it before. And this girl was like, a lot of times I just wish I stayed married. And again, barring abuse or anything really bad, but it's just like not the— it's not your guy. Because she was like, the idea of having to drop my kids off every Sunday is so big compared to just like sleeping with somebody who I'm not like majorly in love with. And I had never really like thought of it like that. And then of course someone was kind of, well, my abuser— that's not what we're talking about, of course. Just like, uh, you know, people get divorced for just like, you know, maybe we rush into things Maybe we're not compatible.

We're not happy.

And so it was just a bunch of girls being like, I think about this all the time. Like, because it's so heart-wrenching doing those drop-offs and it's just like, it never goes well. Even with two well-intended people. Like, it's just never—

that's the nature of divorce. And even if it goes well, it means you, you don't have your kids 100% of the time.

And she was like, being in a bad marriage is nothing compared to having your kids 50% of the time. And I feel like that's kind of Jen and Ben. I don't think that there's anything nefarious going on. I do think they got married too young. I do think they're not compatible, but like at this point, is it worth the alternative? I don't know.

Yeah. She also was saying like that she's like frontal lobe is developing. She's like recognizing new parts of herself.

Um, well, that's so true. Getting married at 19 and having a baby at 20 is whack. Like it's seriously whack. I think it leaves a lot of room for like her to be like struggling with her sense of self, but I don't buy into the illusion that you have to leave a marriage or a relationship to discover new parts of yourself. I hate that shit and I hate to quote The awful Ben Platt. But his song Grow Together is about that. It's like, why can't we grow together? Like, we all, we have a lot of growing up to do. I don't, I don't really buy into that.

And I think that like, but I also, I don't, yeah, but I also, I don't think it's a blanket statement what you just said, like getting married at 19 and having a baby at 20 is whack.

Like, like, no, no, I think it can be really hard for a girl who frontal lobe has not been developed and then throwing in all the fame. Yeah, some people it doesn't affect, but I think it's more often than not like you're gonna go through a rough patch when you start to like really understand who you are.

Yeah, but I think everyone's gonna go through a rough patch, so like that's just your reason why that you did.

Yeah, but I think like the exception to the rule is like it going perfectly, but more often than not, if you get married super young, both of you guys— that's why they say like, you know, you're not supposed to get married so young. It is gonna be bumpy. Yeah, yeah. And then you have to think of all the things on top of it.

If you're committed and like you can navigate it together.

Yeah, but there's so much— they're navigating so much.

They are navigating so much, and they keep like adding to their plate. And that's what I don't like. Sit down, like put roots down, be near family, focus on like, you know, a couple things. Not like— not to say she shouldn't have done Dancing with the Stars, but then like she said she's moving to LA, like what What?

And now she's like spearheading that spin-off, right? Be with family. Yeah, it's, it's true. They're not— their situation is tough. I believe that. And they probably are going through like a little bit of a marriage rough patch. I don't think that they're gonna get divorced. And like, this also is a business, so, you know, they're not filming right now. I think a lot of them feel like they've been eclipsed by Wes Mandeville. So yeah, maybe she's just starting stuff by wearing hoops and no ring.

I thought so too, and I'm fine with that. And I just like, I just don't think that they should separate right now. Like, what, so that she then is like either not with her kids or is with her kids and doesn't have her co— her partner to like help her?

Right? Like, that's also hard being a single mom.

Like, and just sit down, sit down. She was like stressing out in that video. Like, not everything needs to be like figured out right this second. Like, you're— she's— has— how old is her baby? Like 8 months younger than Ruby.

She's 2 months behind me. Yeah, just calm down. Just take a breath. Just calm down.

Take a breath, you know? Yeah. Um, so that's the latest with the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, but they're not filming. Sorry, like, that one soundbite is going to rehabilitate his career.

Oh, absolutely. That plus like the Marciano. Yeah. It's kind of been a bad week for Jesse Draper, formerly.

She doesn't care because she doesn't— is like, she's like writing a script of her, her life, like, for her show. I just hope internally she's actually okay, you know? I don't think she is. Damn.

Because she's also now having to like drop her kids off.

Yeah, but it sounds like she's been living that way for a while because in the Call Her Daddy interview she was saying how she would like stay at a hotel, hotel, like days, and It's just been messy for a while. I don't know.

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I meant to tell you, mm-hmm, that Micaela Nogueira— I told you she has a boyfriend. She was dating—

I saw Sweetheart, it was the first thing this morning. She hard launched her boyfriend. She said, stop making fun of his looks, you fucking bitches.

And I agree, they made fun of his looks. He's so normal looking.

She said that people were like surfacing bad photos of him and like making fun of his looks.

I love her more than anything, and I need to get this message to her like in such a, like, an urgent manner, stop sharing your personal life on TikTok. Like, seriously, she's so young, she's just getting divorced. Like, just stop. Like, and because obviously everyone's commenting, you're moving on too fast. Like, who cares? You make your own choices, whatever. But like, I actually think you really need to stop sharing elements of your personal life. Although she did post something, so she posted two hilarious things. She's so funny. One was, she was like, I'm starting a new series, um, Things My Haters Bought Me, because she gets so much engagement from her haters. That ultimately just makes her more money. And she bought a Birkin, black. So she did an unboxing, her like haters. She said she's gonna start making it, she's gonna start making a series of all the things she can afford because of her haters. And then two, she did a Rihalle activiste try-on, but she was so funny. Can I actually find it? Yeah. Oh gosh.

What are we doing here? She was basically, she was, no, no.

She was basically saying that she knows it's gonna be good. Because all the people who work on the brand work on her brand too. Yeah, well, we said that. No, of course, but it was just like very like turdy, like making it so much about herself when I think a lot of people would have, um, actually really wanted to hear from her because she is, uh, has acne-prone skin and she's like known for having really, um, bad skin and like huge transformations. Okay, let's see if I can find it.

A real review on Alex Earle's new line, Real Actives. Now I bought this myself, I was not sent this in PR, and I really want to test this line because as someone with acne-prone skin, I actually am so excited about this. This sounds right up my alley and And this is the exact routine that I like to do in the evening. I know this shit is going to be good because Alex Earl has the same exact investor as me, the same exact designers, and works with a lot of the same people that I work with to make my brand Point of View. So if I ain't putting out shit, she ain't gonna put out shit either. Trust me. But yes, Sam, if you're seeing this, he designed my packaging and Alex's. You killed it on this. I absolutely love the packaging. Genuinely, I think that this packaging is so freaking cool. It is beautiful. It feels luxurious. So we have the cleansing balm, we have a cleanser, a moisturizer.

I don't know, I can't explain.

Like, I thought the whole thing was a little shady. Shady? Yeah, because, you know, they're both beauty TikTokers, and, you know, Mikayla like launched skincare first. I don't know, maybe I'm looking into it too much, but it felt like a little drama.

Well, what was her overall review, positive or negative? Oh, I didn't get to that. Well, if it was positive, then it wasn't shady because she just gave her so much pressure.

Should we continue watching it?

No, no, no, I don't want to watch it anymore. But she's like the most influential, you know, TikTok influencer of our time. And so if she gave a positive review like that and she has acne-prone skin, like, sorry, not shady. But I think she wants you to be like, hey, don't forget about me. My shit's premium too. Don't forget. Yeah, yeah. She got to look out for Mikayla Self. Number 1, our next story is for you, Adrienne. Adrienne Grenier gets justice for his Devil Wears Prada character in a new Starbucks commercial.

Did you see this commercial? I did, I did. Adrienne Grenier. And what's so funny is that like the opening video of it was like, you guys might have heard, I was, you know, not asked to, to be in a certain sequel. And I was like, what sequel? I'm like, Entourage has another movie? I literally could not like place what he was talking about until the very end.

Yeah, so he said, you might have seen the headlines, I wasn't asked to be a part of a certain sequel, but I'm good, really, it's all good. Then it turns out he's talking to his barista at Starbucks, um, and so he makes a toast to Nate. He said he made a mean sandwich, he loved his girlfriend to a point, he wasn't perfect, so let's leave Nate in 2006 and keep this good energy going. And this is for the good energy beverages at Starbucks, their energy refreshers.

Yeah, I'm not like totally under— like seeing the product alignment, but I do think conceptually, like getting Adrian Grenier in your ad to talk about how terrible his character was, like obsessed. Toasty Lions. Even though I'm really not understanding.

So how it connects, I think if we reverse engineer it, like This is an ad for Starbucks and Devil Wears Prada. Like at the end there's a promotion for Devil Wears Prada. So like it's, oh, oh, it's like, it's an, it, so, so say like Devil Wears Prada came to Starbucks and said like, we wanna run ads with you guys. And so like then they were like, okay, thinking of ideating, who can we do? Maybe it's Miranda getting her order. I think that would've been great, but maybe they couldn't get Miranda's budget. So they say, what if we bring Nate? To talk about having good energy, even though he didn't get cast.

The lore of Adrian Grenier and Starbucks, he's like a long time something, like he was part of the driving force behind straws being like quote removed from Starbucks, even though they're all still there, you just have to ask for it. Um, and then doing those dumb plastic lids that like have even more plastic. Um, he's like a big plastic guy and he spearheaded the campaign to get Starbucks like to nationally, globally remove their straws. So he has worked with with them before. I believe like there— oh, there's some— a relationship there.

Yeah, so that's something like that why they thought to tap him.

Um, I loved it. I just feel like that like we're speaking negatively about Nate.

I feel like Adrian himself like doesn't get enough hate for like what he did to the straw industry, like really so fruitlessly. Like it didn't move the needle on plastics whatsoever. It just made everyone's everyday lives like more inconvenient. And don't forget how ableist it was.

I never forgot.

It's ableist to insist that we not use plastic straws. And don't give me with the paper.

Don't give me— now, Adrian Grenier is either the greatest actor of all time or one of the most genuinely insufferable human beings of all time, because the roles that I know him from— Vinnie Chase an absolutely fucking dreadful human being. And Nate Yarlsberg, one of the worst boyfriends of all time. He's either like, he may be an amazing person, in which case he deserves like several Oscars because he's such a convincing actor, or he's just like that.

But we're supposed to like Vinnie, right? He's like the Carrie, and even though we don't like love him, and he's our protagonist. So that's a really good comparison.

Of him being the Carrie. But if you do, like, I don't know how you ever could like him. He is so self-indulged. He's such a terrible friend, such a poor decision maker, so reckless. He actually makes the show unwatchable, honestly. I agree. And I've rewatched Entourage like several times. I'm deep in the fandom. Oh my God, so funny. Speaking of Devil Wears Prada, I ended up on like this thread. People are really upset because I guess in the new movie Emily's married. Okay. To a man. And I guess like it's just been clear like this entire time that she's a lesbian.

Oh, everyone just assumed from the first movie that she's a lesbian. Yeah. Oh.

And that like maybe Giselle was like her, her—

Oh, I think people might have just gotten carried away.

That's like a fever dream, obviously.

And I feel like people like obviously like made up this like backstory for her and then are just like mad that producers didn't like— Didn't align with it. Write fan, their fan fiction. But that's really funny.

I never thought that. I think like lesbians just identified with her and assumed that she was probably just a lesbian. Interesting. So then like for that to have not been their reality, it was difficult for them to digest.

Oh, okay. I didn't know that was happening.

Much like Cynthia Erivo. But I'm— one thing about me, I'm gonna tell you things you don't know are happening.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Kylie Jenner and Timothée Chalamet get dinner with Kendall Jenner at Sushi Park.

And they also ran into Ashley Benson. They did. Everyone was at Sushi Park, the, uh, strip mall sushi joint beloved by Hollywood's elite.

Yeah, everyone's always there. We have to go if we're ever in LA. And I don't think you can go, like, lately. It's, it's literally in like a shopping plaza.

Yeah, it's on the second floor.

Yeah, like the stairs or the elevator. Like, it's like, you know how motels that have like two floors?

It's like Outdoor staircase. In Raising Helen, when Joan Cusack goes to get Hayden Panettiere out of that like turnt motel room with her boyfriend on prom night and she like bangs down the door, it's just like that. But one of them is like a hair salon, a nail place, a sushi restaurant, like, and literally a pizza place.

Joe's Pizza, tattoo parlor.

It's so strange. I need to get inside. I know. Are there photos of the inside like on the internet?

Yeah, go to the geolocation on Instagram.

Oh yeah, like Yelp. Sushi Park inside.

But they're just like so real, you know?

Oh yeah, so real. Oh, it's literally—

Kylie looks insane per usual.

Jackie, it literally just looks like, like a rundown sushi joint, like with wooden chairs. It must be so good.

There's one in Paris. Ben has to go. Ben has to go. Kylie's looking cute. I mean, Kendall's looking cute.

Oh no, no, I'm sorry, it's Parji.

It's Parji on the inside.

Actually, I don't think it is. There's like a lot of conflicting photos on the internet. Like, it's so mysterious.

Oh my God, this Just Jared article is so pick me. Listen to this.

Taylor eats there. Like, it's insane.

Yeah, everyone.

Okay, I'm ready for the pick me.

If you are not aware, Kylie and Timothée have been together for over 3 years. We actually posted the very first piece of gossip that linked them together back in April of 2023. So fucking funny. Everyone's just worried about number one. I mean, I get it. Except for Levi from Summer House. It's so true.

She's like a comfortable two, maybe even three. Yeah.

And I think she has a lot of just like peace. Everyone's so worried. Like, do they know we were the first to report about Kylie?

Right, right.

Give a fuck. No, no, we don't. Do we know Mikayla's designer is the same as— not that I would ever clown on Kayla.

Me neither. Like, if she has no haters, I've died. She has no love. If she has no lovers— no, if Ben Platt has no haters, like, actually check on Ben soffer because I probably died. Check on me.

Yeah, check on you because I've died. Who do you think hates him more?

You? Yeah. Who do I hate most? Oh, Mark Ruffalo.

Yeah, like you hate Mark Ruffalo more than I do.

Yeah, I hate a lot of people. Yeah, but it's so funny how like when you're obsessed with pop culture and celebrities, like it ebbs and flows so much. That's how I was feeling about Carl, because in Carl's like season with Lindsay, oh my God, it was painful. Like, and Softbar, and now it's like Softbar is kind of a good idea. I think it's doing like decently well. I think his podcast is really sweet. I think he's a very nice guy. Like, I don't know. And when he talks about his brother, like, I just like love him. Like, yeah, it's so crazy. It is so crazy.

That's just, you know, seasons change and we're capable of change.

I don't— yeah, I feel like I went through that with—

and hold it forever.

No, I went through that with Selena Gomez, you know, didn't like and then I really liked and now I'm back to not liking.

That's like, yeah, not a good example.

That feels kind of permanent. Um, who else?

Oh, um, who else? Like, yeah, it happens all the time.

All the time.

I don't see it changing for Ben Platt, but zero. Crazier things have happened. It's— crazier things have happened. Yeah, like, remember Nick Viall?

Who could forget the great Nick Viall? Our origin. We're like literally our nemesis for no reason. We like never even met him. We just like didn't get it.

We didn't like his like character from the show. We were like the basic— like, he's the villain.

Yeah, but he was. But he was.

Did you see Sean Booth was on a podcast, like, talking about, um, his beef with Nick Viall? Oh my God, no.

But I have to say that, like, Sean Booth is my Roman Empire. Like, I've never moved on from Kaitlyn's season of The Bachelorette. Like, and I know they've both gone on— he's a kid now. Kaitlyn's been in, like, two long-term relationships.

Like, I know. Yeah. But like, you're still there when like she was on his back at Catch, like doing their like post, uh, after the final rose press.

When she accidentally spoiled her own season on Snapchat. Like, you kids these days think they know crazy reality TV. You don't know. And if you ever want to see like actual true love, like you have to go watch Sean proposing to Caitlyn when he realizes that like she's already sent Nick Viall home. Like, the relief. Like, it's, it's crazy that they didn't end up together. Like That is true love. And like, that was the best time to be a fan of reality TV.

That was the best time to be a fan of The Bachelor. Yeah. Yeah, that was real.

You have to go watch your proposal. Like, because both guys, like, if you didn't watch The Bachelor, like, the final two would like go and propose and she would only say yes to one of them. And like, most, more often than not, she wouldn't let the loser propose because like it's rude. So then the guy who gets out of the limo second, that's the guy who like won. But he doesn't know that guy number 1 has already been sent home. He could be guy number 1. And so she like sort of tells him, and it's just— it's actually chilling. I have chills. It's so beautiful. Meanwhile, they fucking hate each other. Yeah, they had like a custody battle over their dog. It was such a bad breakup.

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I thought you meant Nick and Sean also hated each other.

They did the two finals.

He was saying how like the beef was real, but it was also definitely like, you know, people were— no, like, like, you know, being like, you've got to take down Nick, this bad guy. Like, producers were producing him to like make it bigger than it is now. There's no beef, but like at the time, like, that was very real.

And it was a lot of the tropes about reality TV and like production people setting you up, editors, is based in reality and rooted from the experiences people had on The Bachelor. Like, production That was all The Bachelor. It was so sinister. I do believe it's much better now. Jesse Draper was saying on Call Her Daddy, like, production, like, they're so nice.

Yeah. So you think Bachelor production is better now?

Oh, no, no, no. I don't know what goes on there. I don't watch. But like, but I mean, like, a lot of the reputation that people like and the understanding they currently have of reality TV and how you always think like you're going to be set up and like people are going to trick you, that was happening on The Bachelor. And I don't believe it happens on shows a lot anymore.

I think it's just like different, you know, especially like I feel like those Bachelor contestants are like so disposable to the producers. It's like, yeah, let's ruin your life and never have to see you again, and like we need a good television. Whereas like on a show like Summer House, it's like, well, they won't come back if they— you know what I mean? Like they have to like sort of like foster more of a relationship, relationship. Um, you can't just like discard them and, and set them up for one-time use.

That's true. Like you're never gonna see these contestants again.

Yeah, and you don't have to worry if they had a bad experience. Like, great, So don't come on Paradise.

So don't come on Paradise. Um, all right, that's our show. Nalafi, hope you guys enjoyed. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast. Oh, I made it through, by the way, and I'm feeling okay. So if you see me tomorrow, I think I'm like out of—

let's just—

one step at a time, one day at a time. I'm staying. If you see me like walking the streets in New York today, just know I can't go home.

No, you can't. Maybe send Ben to a hotel.

So I am currently making up the office into like a little retreat for him because it has its own bathroom and it has a pull-out couch, which is like all you need when you have notovirus. Doesn't have a TV, but he's not a big watcher of TV anyway. And like, I can't be displaced from my bedroom.

This is a great idea.

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