Transcript of Lexi Truthers: Thursday, April 9th, 2026 New

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I sound amazing.

Welcome back to The Toast and happy Thursday. And speaking of her, it's her, it's her, she.

Welcome back.

She, her, she, her, she, her.

Welcome back to me, you guys. If my, um—

welcome back to me, is that what you just said?

Yeah, happy to be back. Introducing me.

Yeah, without further ado, me.

Um, if I'm like a little off today, I didn't realize that Harry was playing in my studio yesterday And when I came in, like, things— it wasn't crazy, but like a bunch of buttons had been pressed.

Yikes. Oh my God.

I know. I think we like— everything looks the same from where I'm sitting right now, but this has never happened before. It was crazy raining yesterday, so we played upstairs. We had to like discover new corners of the house. And I went downstairs to get him a snack and I left the, the gate closed. I was more so worried about the steps. I was like, as long as he doesn't get on the stairs, like, it's fine. I didn't even think about the studio. When I walked up here, I'm like, why are the lights on?

All right, well, if Jackie looks or sounds odd, just blame Harry.

Yeah, but like, you can't. I know, I mean, I think it's fine, but it's just funny. Like, this— no one ever goes in here, and I was like, we'll see, someone's been in here.

Yeah, well, we'll just have to—

it was like bound to happen.

It's true, actually. You need a gate.

I have a gate, but I— it was like—

no, you need a gate For the door, for the, or like a lock, a keypad, like with a 4-digit code. Oh, a lock.

Yeah. Okay. Live and learn.

Uh, I'm here.

Welcome to you.

Yeah. Which I think is a huge deal. Um, as far as I know yet, I have not contracted norovirus. My husband was just like in the throes of it yesterday. We quarantined him. It felt like COVID. He was not allowed to leave the room. I kept like leaving stuff for him outside the door. You drive. I mean, he was being like seriously convalescing, like a woman who just had a facelift. Like he was just like on the couch with like hot compresses, warm compresses, heating pad, drama. I mean, like body armor, water, the drama. He's bright-eyed, bushy-tailed this morning. I think the worst is behind it for him. I feel like I'm gonna give myself another 24 hours to assume that I don't have it. And if it did hit my home and miss me completely— oh, and Phil— yeah, I'm one of God's chosen ones.

But don't celebrate yet. You're not out of the woods yet.

If I'm here tomorrow, like, we're good.

Yeah, because then you could have it over the weekend, and that doesn't conflict with our schedule.

Oh no, I mean, I mean, we're good. Like, I don't have it.

Yeah, no, no, no, you're, you're looking good. Things are looking good. We're also simpatico today in our little, like, oatmeal pants.

I kind of think oatmeal is my color.

I'm like, I want my whole life to be oatmeal.

Not life, because I don't even like oatmeal as a food. My whole wardrobe to be oatmeal. I'm feeling like it's my color. I don't know if it matches with the profile that the color analyst gave to me, but I just, like, refuse to be bound by the colors that the analyst gave me. You know what I mean?

Yeah, like, everyone said I look great in brown. I don't know if that was on my cheap, but it— brown to me is like, that's a neutral. And neutral, oatmeal is like a neutral. It's like wearing white. Yeah, everyone looks good in white or black. Everyone looks good in black. And I did something—

I did something crazy last night.

You watched— no, you read Next to Heaven.

How did you know that?

You wrote it in our group chat.

I'm cracking up. Yes, I did write in the group chat. My bad, not me spoiling the toast. Yeah, I started a book, which is crazy 'cause I've kind of been like struggling with my reading literacy.

Comprehension.

Yeah, but I did, I read. And I read this book that Jackie recommended. It was a Redheads pick and it's like been my next book forever and I've had it on my nightstand. I bought a physical copy and it's just taken me about a month to actually open it up. And boy do I wish I started sooner. Gotta get me a house in New Brunswick. Any of the Toasters here listening live in New Brunswick? If so, I gotta come up for the weekend. I gotta see what this book's all about.

It's called New Brunswick.

Yeah.

Well, it's a fake town, but it's like based on—

Wait, it's a fake town?

Yeah, the town that they're in, like, isn't— that name is not like a real town, but it's like modeled— It is. No, it might be a town. It might be like a name of a town, but not the town. It's like modeled after like Greenwich, Connecticut, or like Bedford.

Wait. It's not a true story. Wait. I didn't think it was a true story, but they talked a lot about this town and how so many wealthy people ended up there and how it's such a party town.

It's not New Brunswick.

And they gave, they gave the history of the town, of the town and how it became to be.

There's certainly a town in Connecticut or upstate New York that has that same history, blah blah blah, but it's not that town, and it's definitely not Brunswick.

In the book Next to Heaven, what town do they live in? Is the town New Brunswick a real place?

Where are you getting Brunswick?

Jackie, because I Googled it. I'm reading the book last night. It's called New— New Bethlehem. Thank you.

Yeah, because it was all about like this—

Okay, wait, I'm fucking cracking up, Jackie. They would never. Wait, wait. The book was like so many famous people live here. And so I was like, Google, they were saying a famous author, a famous athlete, but they wouldn't say who. So I Googled people who live in New Brunswick, famous people. And they were like, there are no real celebrities. What a waste of your time.

So they live in New Bethlehem, which is not a real place. Like, maybe you live in a town in New Bethlehem, Maryland. I'm not talking to you. They're talking— they're like in Connecticut or like upstate New York.

It's not a real place. Based loosely on wealthy Connecticut towns, especially New Canaan.

I read the book 6 months ago.

Oh my God, I'm so upset. I was literally on Zillow like looking for a house in New Brunswick. I'm fucking cracking up.

No, it's called New Bethlehem.

I am really like not a smart person. It's insane.

You were right, you are struggling.

I am. That's like so crazy.

So it's based— it's called New Bethlehem in the book, and it's loosely based on New Canaan. So you might want to look for a house in New Canaan.

Not to be like a know-it-all, even though I clearly know fucking nothing, it's actually pronounced New Canaan.

Well, it would be if we're speaking Hebrew.

If you went to Hebrew school, then you know it's New Canaan, which is the original name for the land of Israel.

Yeah, if you were speaking Hebrew, it would be Canaan, but if you're speaking English No, if you're sort of authentic, you're saying Kanaan. So you don't call Jerusalem?

Yerushalayim, Sheol Zahav.

But you don't ever say Jerusalem?

No, I literally the other day I said Yerushalayim. I don't say Jerusalem.

I saw it on your story.

I say Simla.

You do say Simla.

Like, I obviously I'm authentic. I'm literally that character from the Funny or Die sketch.

But you don't say an accent because it's, it's not an accent.

It's just how I speak. I'm so authentic.

It's not a costume.

It's not a costume.

Um, so you like the book?

I like the book and I didn't watch TV, so I feel so smart even though like we're not off to a great start. Let's just reset. Yeah, I read and I was like sleeping in my bed alone, but Ben was in the other room. It was such a weird feeling. Like I felt like one of those couples that sleep in separate bedrooms. Yeah. I will say I slept amazing.

I'm glad that actually works for you. Cuz it's not that you don't wanna sleep alone. Yes. It's like you don't wanna be in the house alone, but wait, he could be in the house, but not in the bed. Yes.

I am onto something because I, when Ben's gone, I'm so afraid the whole night. I'm afraid. I'm afraid. I'm like, I'm literally, no, I'm afraid. I'm sleeping and I'm like, what was that? I, I have crazy dreams. It's the worst, most fitful sleep. But knowing that there was like a man in the house who was closer to the front door than me. And I got the bed to myself.

Party! What's bad?

What's bad? We're gonna become one of those couples. Like, I'm obsessed.

Poisoning him.

Yes, somebody who has the virus come over, keep him sick. You can't keep a good girl down, you know?

Yeah, well, I shopped last night. I didn't watch TV. I was gonna watch The Valley, but then the shops were calling my name.

Life got in the way.

Yeah, I actually am like working on something. I'm, I'm vlogging it. So I like didn't wanna spoil the vlog, but I think the vlog might be like part 1 and 2. But I just like, I need to tell everyone, like I'm redoing my kitchen.

Oh yeah. For those of us who have been here like on the journey, we know it's kind of been, it's kind of been a drama and a half.

It has been. But no, like, no, I haven't like told anyone. And then I just sort of like started and I don't, I don't even think I took content for transition reels. Like I don't know what I'm doing, but I've been vlogging it for Patreon. So I felt like I'm making content, but I'm like, wait, I didn't even tell anyone. You guys are gonna see like open cabinets in the back of my kitchen. Like, I'm redoing my kitchen, so I was shopping for my kitchen.

Like slabs and things?

No, like faucets and hardware. Very microwave. We're finally having a built-in microwave. Do you know, in every place I've lived in since I've been with Zach, coincidentally—

I do know this—

in my house here, in our former apartments, none of them had a built-in microwave. We always had like a random one on the counter if we wanted a microwave.

She has like a freestanding microwave that plugs into an outlet. Honestly, every time I'm at your house, I can never find it.

I always move it around because it's bound to move.

It's moving. It's freestanding.

It's moving gray oven.

I know it sounds like a lot of fun, like slabs and faucets and mood boards and things, but I've been along for the journey on like your design process. And I just want to say, I think remodeling and just designing homes, first of all, I don't have a knack for it. So that's— I'm already off to a bad start. It is genuinely one of the most unfun, unpleasant things to do. And I feel like when the time comes that like I do like settle down, buy a house, wherever that is, Like, I'm gonna need one of those, like one of Shannon's, like a builder-grade home where like I just literally want to come in with my toothbrush and a pair of underwear.

Yeah, yeah. But even builder-grade, like, then you do have to like design it. They don't buy you furniture and, and do molding and all that.

Somebody needs to like start a firm, like a design architecture firm where it's called like Toothbrush, the Toothbrush Firm, and all you need to do is bring your toothbrush. Like, why can't I buy a house and like all the furniture's there already, you know?

Well, sometimes you can, especially if it's like staged with furniture.

No, I'm sorry, I don't want somebody's old— I'm not buying a furnished, smelly old couch.

No, but if it's staged, like the stagers, you can wind up buying it and it's always like really nice. Everyone just uses like Restoration Hardware, which is like super parji.

Everyone uses Restoration Hardware? Uh, I don't know that to be true.

No, like in like a nice staged home, they go with that vibe. Sorry, it might not be RH brand, but like that's the, that's the, the vibe, which is really beautiful.

When I was like spending my, uh sabbatical in Florida over the last couple of months. Ben and I were looking at some places there, and every time I went in, I'm like, oh, is this your furniture? Oh my God, is this your furniture? And they're like, no, it's staged. And I was like, can you— like, I felt so lowbrow, but I'm like, can you buy the staged furniture? They were like, I guess.

Like, you know, it's like, can I have a stager come just like stage?

I'm just so uninterested. And I feel like that's why I'll never truly be settled, because in order to like have a home, you have to put in the work. Like, you have to go find the house. A lot of them, most of them, especially if you're a cardboard Koji, like, need work if you want to get a good deal. Yeah. And it's like, well, I guess I'll just live in a rental forever. Like, I just can't.

That may work for you, but I just want to say, now that we started the work, it's so exciting. I'm loving it. I'm living with like—

really?

Yeah. Oh my gosh, I feel like I'm in the second season of OC when like Sandy and Kirsten are getting a new kitchen. They can't use their kitchen, and like they're on the brink of divorce. Except like Zach and I are doing really great.

Yeah, you're thriving.

No, like, it really hasn't been that intrusive yet. Like, I can still work in my kitchen. Um, it's like You'll see in the vlog why, like what, how we're doing it. And I just find every day to be so exciting. Like I got a new faucet that arrived yesterday that's being installed on Friday. And like, let me tell you, I've never been so excited about a faucet. Faucets greater than—

are you DIYing like any element? Like, are you getting involved or you just truly letting the professionals handle it?

So I got like new outlet covers, like marble outlet covers, like to match my marble. And I will attempt to unscrew my old ones.

I actually think you can do it.

And that— I'm going to attempt that. And if I can't, like, I'll just ask the, the carpenter to do it. It'll take him 2 seconds, but I'm going to attempt it.

Yeah, I like that.

Like, I'm so excited about my new outlet covers.

That's so exciting.

It's so exciting. I just want to say, like, if you, like, have a project that, you know, you need to do, or like you think, like, oh, we'll do it next time we leave town, or like whenever, whatever, just start. Like, it's so exciting.

It's so exciting.

I wish I did it sooner.

Yeah, although I do feel like the excitement like quickly wears off and just the novelty of not having a functional kitchen becomes the primary.

Yeah, the way that we're doing it, like our major appliances aren't moving and still work, so like I can still cook dinner. I might make a chili today.

I made a chili over the weekend.

I may make a chili in my half kitchen.

Half kitchen. Yeah, like some people have half baths, I have a half kitchen.

Half kitchen.

I had a chili over the weekend.

And tell me about the experience.

It was—

would you recommend for a friend?

I would recommend, especially for a Passover meal, because although, you know, I love to use chips and rice for my chili, I just used matzah and it was very good. Although you can have chips technically, like, no, like the potato, yes, like not really.

And like, I was being, you know, you said one of the authentic experience of mine.

And as the holiday progresses, like, of course this was day 2. You're like firing on all cylinders on day 2, and you feel like a true child of God. Oh, speaking of God, give me 2 seconds. Then, you know, as the days go on, tonight it does end, and I just want to say I'm so grateful. Like, the way I desperately need like a bowl of pasta.

Yeah, I haven't had pasta. Just to like tell myself a little bit, I don't keep Passover that strictly. Like, not to be like a total heretic, um, I, I do keep it in a sense like I, I don't eat bread Um, like slices of— I don't bake bread. That to me is— would be blasphemy if I was like literally having pargy loaves when like they couldn't get their bread to rise. Like, however, like I do think like they could have grabbed a pretzel if they— if they had a pretzel, they would have grabbed a pretzel.

Oh my God, I would love a pretzel, right?

So I don't keep it that close, but I haven't had pasta, I haven't made a pargy loaf, and pasta is so good. Yeah, miss pasta.

I just want to say, um, I was a person who was like severely impacted by a random documentary I watched once on Netflix called Keep Sweet, Pray and Obey, which was about the fundamentalist LDS, like this offshoot of Mormonism. They lived in like this, you know, ranch in Utah, and it was just really awful. Like, they— the guy ended up going to prison, um, for like 50 years because he was married to like a million women, including minors, and there was like a lot of abuse. It was terrible. And then when the documentary came out, I guess it like revived parts of the remaining people in the religion, and this new guy took over, and they were making a documentary about it, like a sequel to Keep Sweet, Pray and Obey. And it just came out, the trailer on Netflix, that what started out as like an innocent documentarian ended up being like the documentarian infiltrating the cult. One of the wives reached out to her and was like, there's so much abuse going on, like, you have to help us, and like taking it down from within. So like, I don't even know if it's technically considered a documentary anymore, um, And he's now in prison.

And I just wanna say, like, if you were a Keep Sweet, Pray and Obey girl, you have to watch a new documentary on Netflix. I haven't seen it yet. I don't even know if it's out yet, but they just dropped the trailer and it's kind of taken the world by storm.

Oh, interesting. You didn't segue that at all. I was still waiting. I said, speaking of God, I, I was still, I was like waiting for how it tied back to Passover. I'm like, and then they had a matzah.

God.

Understood. Understood. I'm like, they had leavened bread. Was the leavening in the room with us? God, but not even— don't insult God.

She could be a Christian.

Don't insult God by associating those people.

No, no, I'm not—

H-I-M. You meant religion.

I don't even know if I would insult religion by calling it a religion. You know, I had a thought today because I was watching, as I do, my morning scroll on TikTok, which I feel like has really set me up for— like, I feel like I'm always bringing, like, recently, like, interesting facts to the show. Um, sound off.

Interesting facts to the show.

Yeah, relevant stories that like my grandma's sister doesn't know. I was watching—

I feel like most of the things that you bring up, like, I've seen of them, but I don't know the deets.

You know, I'm literally like the explainer.

Yeah, Claudia Explains It All, our favorite segment.

Turd Explains It All. Well, I was watching stuff about Euphoria. I don't know if the first episode came out yet or whatever. I am gonna watch it, but just, it was— I was like, one of the interviews from the red carpet, someone was talking about, um the cast members who have passed away. Like, there's, you know, um, Angus— Angus Cloud and Eric Dane. And you know what, I feel like nobody's made this comparison yet, so I just want to like put it out there. Doesn't it feel like Euphoria is like very much like a modern version, like this generation's Glee, where it's like this very successful show and it seems kind of cursed, and it like in different ways, but I feel like there's like a similar vibe.

I don't want to not support your calls.

Oh, but because it's— but, but you can't not because it's literally ingrained in your blood.

But I don't support this call, and I don't have that feeling at all. Um, but also like Euphoria is— it's not even a blind spot for me. It's like I'm turning a blind eye, you know? I turn a blind eye to you.

She's taking moral high ground.

Like when I thought you were gonna tell me about Kayla Nogueira, like tell me about the greats of TikTok. Don't tell me about Euphoria.

I'm just glad, like, we're all now— like, what's— it's coming to light, like, the lack of support for my calls. It's really, um, it's fantastic. And I'm just gonna keep making them, and I'm actually gonna keep making worse and worse calls just to set you up.

Why? But you should do it to, like, see— it's like a test. Like, actually, I don't know what that would prove other than I don't know.

I mean, we all agree, like, you don't support my calls, and I support your calls to the death. Like, because you know what it is, Like, I think you're so smart, you know? Like, to me it's like, what if I—

big sister— what if I made a call? What if I made a call and you just didn't agree with it?

What would you say? I'm, I'm not capable.

Like, seriously, you're literally such a dissenter. You're always arguing.

I'm not capable of not agreeing with you.

Okay.

And I never argue with you. I don't even know what you're talking about.

Okay, so you agree that Euphoria and Glee are not similar?

No, I'm not going to agree with your rejections of my brilliant calls. And like, those who know, know, you know?

Yeah, yeah. Um, anything else on the talks that you have to alert us about?

Just more Artemis.

Artemis cuties.

You know, they're entering a part of orbit where like they will be out of communication. I missed them for like 45 minutes.

I miss them.

But them coming back on is like, you know, a big deal. Yeah, because like if they're not, I feel like that's one of those movies, you know?

Yeah, or it's like it's 45 minutes for us but it's 5 years for them. That's like Interstellar, if they go into like a different time-space continuum.

And people are making like so many TikTok edits. I can face the odds, I can go the distance. Because that woman is actually— I didn't realize she's like a history maker. She's the first woman to orbit the moon.

Oh wow, major for womankind.

Major.

One small step for womankind. Slay, slay, mama. The future is female.

Herstory is happening today.

It is. That's pretty cool. I know. I wonder what she's doing about her period.

Well, hopefully her period doesn't come out of her throat due to gravity. Like, we're seriously disgusting. Like, the first woman in space and we're talking about her period.

Yeah.

But it, it's, it's a part of Toast Lore. If you guys don't know, we had a very viral video like a couple of years ago where we were like, I wonder what happens if you go to space with your period? Like, does gravity cause the period to come out of your throat? Or like, does the tampon even stay in cuz of gravity? Like, whatever. It's just like kind of an honest and raw conversation. Um, but we would never like diminish a woman's accomplishments to her period, just so you know.

No, but like that would be, we don't even like talking about periods. That would be so inconvenient in the space suit.

Not only would it be so fucking inconvenient and having to change your tampon like in close quarters with 3 other— in the spaceship, but also— no, that's it. Sorry, I didn't have anything.

How long end to end is the journey? I don't know.

And it's been what, a couple of days? I don't know.

Yeah, maybe she like planned. It's so hard to be a woman.

It is so hard.

You know what I mean? Like how unfair.

I do know what you mean.

Let's wrap. Let's just end the show because it's too hard to be a woman.

Oh, I love that. Sorry, I can't come tonight, I'm a woman. Love, love.

Okay, let's get into the story, shall we?

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Our first story, some scandal in sports world that has everyone a-twitter. New England Patriots' Mike Vrabel and top New York Times NFL reporter Diana Rossini were spotted holding hands and hugging at a luxury hotel. Have you not seen this? No, you haven't seen these pictures?

I saw that and I thought it was Bill Belichick.

No. So, um, he is—

explain to me like why, like who are the players and why I care.

He's the head coach for the Patriots.

Okay, so like for formerly Bill Belichick, the new Bill Belichick.

Yeah, the new Bill Belichick. So that's a big job.

Oh, and then remind me to tell you about what happened with Alex Earle.

She used to be an anchor on ESPN SportsCenter and now she works for the New York Times' NFL publication called The Athletic.

Did everyone read?

Right. But anyway, she's a big sportscaster. In the NFL. He's a coach. They were spotted together in Sedona, like, holding hands and then sitting poolside together. They are both married.

Also, who would recognize these people enough to take a picture?

And the person who recognized them and took pictures has pictures of them all over the hotel. Like, when she sees them from afar, she takes a picture.

And then also, how do you know it's a woman?

Because it's a woman. And when, when the, when the lady walks past her at the pool, she takes a picture. Look, 'Look at this, she's obviously a liar.' And then now old clips are resurfacing of like this lady.

Oh, I saw this on Liz Wood's story and I just thought it was a funny clip, like somewhat recent, so I was cracking up. But now I understand she has a long history of like degrading her husband publicly, right?

She— old clips are resurfacing of like things that she used to say about him on her show when she was on SportsCenter, just saying how he's like average and ugly and a loser.

Yeah, like really, she joked about her marriage falling apart.

She's like kind of crazy.

Yeah, yeah.

Um, and now it seems as though she's stepping out on her mans with like someone else in the sports world, which makes it like a scandal for people.

It's giving Amy and TJ.

Yeah, it is.

Yeah, thanks for supporting my call. You're welcome. Um, this is so funny. Okay, I like— I've seen all the content that you just referenced. I did not know how they were connected. Like, what the backstory was. Wait, can I quickly tell you Alex Earl? I meant to tell you this. Sure. So she did get ready with me like 2 days ago, being like, get ready with me to go on a first date. And yeah, I thought it was like shockingly, um, she's so authentic.

She's so—

yeah. Um, and then she did like an un-get ready with me and a slay because this video was so interesting. And she was doing her whole skincare routine.

Yeah.

Um, but she was basically saying how she doesn't think there's gonna be a second date. Uh, but like told the story of this like very strange date. It was at like 3:30. Um, and she had plans that night. Like, so he came and picked her up and was like Dinner's at 7:30 in Malibu. And she's like, oh, I like— it's like a day date. Like, I have stuff to do tonight. I mean, he was like, but I'm so hungry right now. And she was like, okay, I'm not that hungry. And he like took her to Starbucks. No, I swear to God. She was like, I got like a coffee and like he got a croissant or something. And then we were just like driving around Malibu. Like the plan was like to go to Malibu and like walk on the beach a little bit and like hang out and then like have dinner or have a meal. Like the timing was weird.

It sounds like she didn't have her schedule on lock either. Like, no, no, no.

He was just very loose with it. And she was like, I have a date at 3:30, I can go out that night. Yeah, and it's in Malibu. So she like tells the story, he's like driving around, she's like just driving, and he's driving further and further away from— and she was like, are we going somewhere? Like, we're driving really far. He's like, oh no, no, I'm just like driving. And then she started to get a little scared. She was like, I'm like in a car with a strange man. She was like, we should like do something, like go to a farmer's market or whatever.

Um, I actually didn't finish watching the video cuz like something happened, but I just thought it was so funny that this guy took her to Starbucks And you're telling me none of you saw Alex Earl and this random at Starbucks and took a picture?

So then I was actually going to put it out on my Instagram, but like, I didn't want to be a drama. Like, I need— like, on a biblical level, I need to know who this day was because obviously it was someone high profile, whether it's an individual who's wealthy or a celebrity. Um, and like, Jumaa, if you are worth your salt, you will find out who the fuck this is.

100%. I just like need to know the kind of guys that don't call yourself Jumaa if you can't find out.

I'm being dead serious.

And maybe she like got a tip, like, Alex Earl spotted with like random you know, tech startup guy at Starbucks. And she was like, no, she fucking cares. No, she was like, I don't believe you because it's not believable.

And the comments were like, girl, this is a bad date even for like our standards, like regular people. This is a Starbucks. It was really crazy. I thought it was crazy that she was like talking about it so publicly. That's Starbucks. And then it ended up being this like catastrophic date.

Oh my God. Well, she definitely doesn't want a second date because he's obviously gonna obviously going to see that, and he wouldn't want to go out with her again either, knowing that she spilled the beans. Yeah, so she doesn't care.

I often wonder about people who make like dating content, how you can like genuinely show your face.

No, you can't show your face, and if you ever do wind up liking someone, then your content is done. Like, unless that person's thirsty and is like happy to be a part of it, but like Who are you?

Unless— let me introduce you to someone who I know you don't know. Her name is Danielle Walters.

I, I don't know.

And I just want to say, like, I will, like, defend this girl till I die.

Tell me what she did.

She did a lot of, like, single girl dating content, like, very from the POV of, like, hopeless romantic, right? Like, you know, really looking for a knight in shining armor, a Prince Charming, whatever. And she goes on dates and recaps them while she does her makeup, talks about, like, this guy, that guy.

She never says their name.

She's like, oh, the guy from Starbucks, or whatever. Um, and people were just, like, along for the journey because it was very relatable, just like this hopeless romantic, like, normal normal nice girl looking for a normal nice guy and just like not being able to do that.

Yeah, and just like funny dating hijinks.

And then she started dating this guy and it moved very quickly, um, and as she was sharing like date number 1, date number 2, and she would, you know, share a lot about like milestones and like when you say I love you, and like people were really taken aback at the speed in which the whole thing was happening. And they were taking things that she said being like, he's love bombing you, he's abusive, you know, like the way people just— the way they do run with things. And she was like a decently popular TikToker. But this particular relationship that she got into and then documenting it really put her on a level of like, like the wrong side of the internet. And she became so deeply hated, like Reddit hate accounts, but like literally insane. And it kind of blew up this like her and her boyfriend. She's like, I have a boyfriend. Like, it was so cute and sweet, whatever. Then she disappeared for like a couple of weeks, months, and then she comes back and her content is very highly produced. So she comes back with this series and she's like sitting on a park bench and she introduces everyone.

Went to her boyfriend. I don't have to tell you the threads. I met him once, yada yada. He's just a guy. Like, I don't know anything about him. I think he used to be an Uber driver. They say he's like really thirsty and famous. Like, who fucking cares? Um, they just got engaged. Okay, I don't know end to end how long it's been. It's obviously like a fast-moving relationship, but she's a woman of a certain age, and like, she doesn't give a fuck. And she like, you know, she does things her own way. Like, she knew she was getting engaged. They like kind of set a date for it. Um, they're very intentional with each other. They're like deeply in love. Um, Why did I bring this up? You said because—

I don't know, because I said how can you get out of that doing that sort of content when you find a real relationship? Because who would want to be like—

well, now he's a part of it, and I think he also was like a little content creator before also.

He's a little thirsty. Okay, so that's what I said, you have to be with a thirst monster.

Yeah, no, and just like seriously leave her alone.

Just because someone is a thirst monster, which like a lot of like men are, especially of women who reality stars, successful, like, doesn't mean they can't also be a decent partner. Agreed.

And it's like, I'm thirsty. I'm a good person. I'm a thirsty person. Like, what's wrong? Thirsty is just a, like, a, a code word for networking. Like, I'm sorry, if he was a C-suite executive moving like that, like, you guys wouldn't think twice about it just because it's on the internet.

If he's using you, if he doesn't love you, if he actually dislikes you and just like pretends to like you, that's a different thing. But like, you have to have— be with someone then who's like— or you no longer do that sort of content or you're with someone who's like down to clown and up for that sort of lifestyle, which not everyone is.

Agreed.

So that's why it's kind of tough, like when you actually do find a relationship when you make that sort of content, or you even— not even a relationship, like someone you want to go on a third date with. It's like, wait, what do I tell them about the last date? What if he sees it and then he knows how I felt about our last date? Those— that's what's weirder.

Yeah, of course. I mean, I don't know if I'd be defending this girl if she wasn't getting so much.

I, I have yet to hear what she's done wrong.

It's insane. She's just moving in ways in her relationship and her dating life that like other people wouldn't.

Like, okay, it's getting jealous.

It's gonna be jealous. They think all of her content is like so staged and fake, even though she was upfront with her audience being like, no, no, we planned when to get engaged. She's not hiding anything. Like, it's just not how, you know, I would do it, or it's not how someone else would do it. That doesn't make it wrong. Yeah, she's like a sweet little girl and she like put a lot of wallpaper up in her house. That's how she got viral. She was doing all these like crazy DIYs. She lives in a really cute apartment that she like designed herself completely.

I, I've gotten to the wallpaper stage. I just, I just got past engagement. Um, that's funny. I'm surprised she didn't come up for me because like I look at everyone with—

is she on Reels?

She's on Reels. She's a real person. She's a real person for sure. Well, mazel tov to her. I don't see the problem.

Yeah, I don't see the problem either. But I don't know how people like actually show their face when they like actively date.

It was like, say you went on a first date with someone and you had a good time, but your job is to like talk about your dates, so you like made an Instagram.

But the thing with Alex Earl is that it's actually not her job, so she like actually—

yeah, no, I'm not saying you have to do like someone else and then you make a video like I I just had a great first date. He's like this and that. And then he saw that.

I would die. I would seriously die.

No, no, seriously.

It's like that one time I made a Vine about Ben, you know, I never recovered from it. I'm still talking about it 15 years later.

Yeah, but you kind of like slayed.

Slayed.

I would say you slayed in despite, like not because of.

My digital footprint, 1,000%. Okay, back to this, um, like NFL drama.

Skip to this. Yeah, everyone like wants an ex-astronomer, wants an ex-DJ, and Amy. Now, this is the astronomer of the sports world.

Sure.

I'm just like not in the mood today.

I know, I know.

And because I didn't even know of one of these people, not a name, not a nothing, I can't now care. I can't now— like, and that would be so phony, be like outrage.

How could Mike Vrabel do that to his beloved?

I don't know Mike Vrabel. Maybe he—

I don't know these people. Maybe this is my plate.

Maybe he does it all the time.

That's like a lot of the rhetoric on Scamander Ball right now, where it's like, oh, I don't know the players, like, can somebody catch me up? It's like, no. Sorry, like, we've put in the work.

And if you don't know the players, you will never understand why it is so significant. Because when I say, oh, it's her friend's ex-boyfriend from 2 years ago, they dated for 6 months, and now she just got divorced, and now she started dating him, like, okay, that's kind of kosher. Like, a little— but it's about the fact that her whole shtick when she didn't have a lot on the show aside from her marriage was like, girl code in the bed, girls crying, Sierra. Like, you had to have watched that over and over again every week for the last 2 years to understand why such a betrayal.

It's so true. Like, and actually Bethany is kind of in hot water because she was doing press and was asked about it, and she obviously doesn't know like deep the lore. She's like, what's the big deal? A castmate dated another castmate's boyfriend who she dated for a couple of months.

Yeah, yeah.

And it's like, well, it's so much deeper than that, Bethany.

But okay, I saw Bethany's take, and that's obviously not my take, but like, I appreciate the take. I, first of all, I like when people say different stuff, and I especially like when it's not popular. Like, it doesn't mean that she's right or wrong, or we all have to like be like, oh, how could she say that?

That's what she thinks.

Great.

No, I also gather that like she doesn't actually know the context.

Actually knew, because even when you know, like no one committed any crimes, there's no adultery here, it's just bad form and it's bad friendship.

It's just shocking.

It's just shocking is what it is. It's just shocking.

And then also, and I just want to say, the label of Amanda, like, and I agree with you what you said, like her whole thing was girls, girls, girls, girl, that was such a false label. Nobody was meaner to the new girls. Like, why did every new girl become friends with Lindsay? I don't even think Gabby— hello, Gabby!

I don't I don't think she was mean to the new girls. I just think she was like a little bit— she's a— it's funny how like, just like standoffish.

She was like, you have to fend for yourself.

Yeah. And I felt like even with Lexi, she kind of was Lexi's connection to the house, and then she like didn't have Lexi's back. And I forget what happened in the scene on the porch where she's like telling Lexi what Jesse had said about her, like something like that's upsetting to Lexi. And I just felt like she didn't have her back, comfort her. And then when she saw like things weren't going like in the way of like saying no, she didn't support Lexi at all. Lexi had no one, and Amanda was her connection to the house, like I don't think she was mean to the mean girls. I just like don't think that she ever was like, hey, I'm Amanda, like let's make you feel warm and cozy.

No, she was never welcoming. She was never welcoming. It was very much like fend for yourself.

But like if Paige and Sierra had been welcoming, then she would have been welcoming.

I just want to say, when Paige and Sierra were welcoming, she was welcoming.

Paige and Sierra were not.

Everyone's like opening up old wounds about like Hannah and Jules, and I don't see enough people talking about Lexi. We are Lexi truthers, and I think I can't even look at fucking Jesse Solomon because of it. Like it bothers me so much. Um, not enough people are talking about Lexi. Yeah, the girls were awful to her, like Amanda specifically.

Yeah, and just like gaslighting her that she's crazy for wanting like her man to be appropriate around them, because now we know like all this flirting, it's not brother-sister.

Oh, absolutely. Lexi clocked it first how inappropriate everybody acts. You're sucking on Sierra's toe, or whoever— whose toe was it?

A random. Oh, even worse, a random.

Yeah, that's weird.

That's—

everyone in this house is brainwashed into like fornicating with their friends.

No, like laying on top of each other in the bed, in the pool, in your bathing suit, the legs, and like it's not weird. And it is. She was right for saying like Jesse obviously feels some sort of way about Sierra because this season he said he wanted to make out with Sierra, which I don't think you would make out with your sister. And she was also right for saying all these close friendships, like it's a little bit concerning because look, Amanda and Wes, best friends, brother, sister, brother, sister. Justice for Lexi. And it's not just Jesse that I'm mad at. I'm mad at Bravo because she should have been there this season to like have a redemption, have a career. Like, they just brought her on this show, ruined her life, broke her heart, and said, go in the garbage can, bye.

It's so true. The network like so left her hanging out to dry after she—

like, I know she also liked Jesse back, so it worked out, but he gave her no choice but to date him. Like, he so aggressively pursued, co-opted her time, like was on top of her, and she liked him and thought he was cute. So like, great, but like just totally took advantage of her life.

Agreed.

Oh, it makes me sick.

Let's talk about Lexi.

Let's talk about Lexi next. I guess we have to be like what the Jules truthers have been—

the Lexi truthers.

Yeah, yeah. Next, let's talk about Summer House actually, because Kyle Cooke is sharing a little bit of a lover boy update as he cashes in on Wes Mandeville. You know what else I was thinking? Carl's a Mess is the Send It to Darryl of Wes Mandeville.

It's also like the Goodbye Kyle of like Lisa Vanderpump Rules.

Yeah, but like Lala Kent literally bought a house off of Send It to Darryl merch, and now Carl's a Mess is going to save Loverboy.

I believe they have Carl's a Mess merch.

They do, they do. And he made a video. I guess everyone's been like buying merch and supporting Loverboy.

I hope Carl gets a piece of that.

I feel like he will, because also this season has been a lot about how Kyle hasn't supported Carl. And I feel like even if he takes a piece of that merch and invests it in Softbar, like, he absolutely has to, or he's the biggest idiot on the planet. Like, yeah, yeah, this is an alley-oop, like, slam dunk. Yep, slam dunk opportunity.

Like, I would actually wear a sweatshirt that says Carl's a mess. I think it's so funny. I thought goodbye to Daryl was like— no, send it to Daryl was really forced. I didn't think it was like a funny— I didn't— like, I watched a video, I was impacted— unimpacted by what she said, and then everybody started saying send it to Daryl, and I was like it just felt so forced being like— but this is so genuinely funny. Carl's a mess. Like hilarious. I would wear a sweatshirt.

Wow, you've really done an about-face.

No, on Kyle. Well, it's hard to like hate someone who's like such a loser. Like, yeah, he's just not threatening to me anymore.

Yeah, also I think Lover Boy is like doing better. I, I'm surprised they even made it from the summer until now given how he was talking about Loverboy's financials. He said they had 6 months, and it's, it's been more than 6 months since the end of August. I guess people are like buying Loverboy and buying merch right now, and—

but I don't think they've been actively dropping new products.

I think like they sell in a bunch of stores, they're like sunsetting a little bit.

Yeah, yeah. And I think they probably got a bunch of online orders.

I hope this doesn't encourage him to like keep it going though, because like this will fade, and then he's like back to what he had before. And I just like— it would just be so weird to me if you're like, oh Amanda is hooking up with West. Let me buy a Loverboy. Like, I know, but people do.

I mean, that's what happened with Spritz. What? Craig 20?

Oh yeah, no, but we had launched a new flavor. Like, it was actually about like the product.

No, we hadn't.

The Craig flavor.

Yeah, but that's not what Craig 20 was.

About the drama. Well, no, we were giving— it was about the drama, but we're giving you a discount, so buy it because there's a discount, right? Not just like Amanda, but also to support Craig from the slander. Yeah, no, but it was also like, we're running a promotion.

Bravo fans do—

we're running a promotion based on— so yeah, oh, I can get this on sale, great. But this is like, I didn't want Loverboy for the last 6 years, but now that Amanda has hooked up with Wes, I want to love—

give me one of those espresso martini margarita teas. They have such crazy flavors.

It's just funny. But yeah, I guess that's just the, the circle of life. And happy for Kyle Who would have ever thought?

Who would have? And it's so funny because watching the new episodes, like, he's acting like so awful, whatever. I don't know, I'm just like genuinely unfazed by it, where it used to like actually make me so mad. But now it's like, well, no, she was obviously awful.

So it's just— it's so hard. And like, 2 episodes ago when he told her fuck you, which was obviously so wrong, and I will condemn that every time he says in his confessional, like, all these— all these guys in the house like say that they're here for me, they're here for me. But it's like, if you're really here for me, you would tell her to like stop like giving you guys all this attention and give some attention to her husband. And when he said that, it was before West Mandeville, and everyone's like, Kyle's so terrible. But like now, knowing like what she's capable of, it, it's actually sort of prophetic what she said.

And I feel like no one's really willing to hear him out, so you don't even— like, you don't even ingest what he says. But like, even before West Mandeville, I think we all could have agreed, like, she does spend a lot of time with the other guys. She's very flirty and touchy, and it's like, well, yeah, I could see your husband, no matter how awful he is, being annoyed that like not only are you not spending time with him, but you're like all over these other guys.

If we had said that before West Mandeville, we would have been so fucking canceled. I know, I know. Which is just a good reminder that like you should say the truth, even like— not that I felt like saying that then, I wasn't really thinking about them that much, but it's just a good reminder, like say your truth before it becomes so painfully obvious, right?

Like you couldn't defend Kyle.

No, you couldn't. And like, you really should— he told his wife fuck you, but like he had some points and they were just all— they were all lost by the way that he acted too.

But like, it's not the message, it's the delivery.

You could have never ever said that for. Like, you couldn't have never said, well, maybe Amanda's not like the most like amazing wife because he was a worse husband.

Yeah, what came first, the chicken or the egg?

They're both still true. And it's also crazy how now that the like gates are open, because she like, okay, but that's like, now people can say like the nastiest fucking shit about her, and it's like, that's not nice either.

No, people are taking it too far. Like, calm down.

Like a bathing suit.

Yeah, like calm down. The bathing suits are—

meanwhile, gobbling it up, eating it up.

So quickly of Hailey Bieber.

Like, shut up.

Yeah, no, like, the Bravo fandom is so fickle. Like, it's so— it's crazy.

It's so scary.

It's so scary.

Yeah, I mean, hyping up like Oliver Press, Amanda fucking Matula, right?

Like, literally, our automatics slay mama.

Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

Mhm.

The Housemaid author Freda McFadden reveals her true identity after living a double life for 23 years. So Freda McFadden is finally dropping the disguise and the double life. She revealed on Wednesday her real name, which is Sarah Cohen, and that she's a New York-born doctor who treated brain disorders as she has built a publishing empire over the last 23 years. So she did an interview with USA Today saying, I'm at a point in my career where I'm tired of this being a secret. I'm tired of people debating if I'm a real person or if I'm three men. I am a real person and I have a real identity and I don't have anything to hide.

Um, okay, so like, I love this, but I feel like I knew this. I saw—

I'm glad there's a picture of her. Yeah, I've seen pictures, but I guess we never knew her biological government name.

She always like— she attended the red carpets for her books and stuff, but she wore a wig. Yes.

Yeah, and she's like wearing the same hair and glasses in this interview.

Yeah, so maybe that's just her hair.

She said, I have no idea how to style my hair.

Cracking up. So maybe she rang away.

We also didn't know that she was a brain surgeon.

I thought she was like a psychologist. I knew she was something like a doctor, like, like a brain doctor.

Maybe that could be a psychologist or a brain surgeon.

I just want to say it's so true. Um, she treats—

I love this. I'm cracking up. She's a psychologist, she's not a surgeon.

I'm cracking up. It must— yeah, that's what I thought, like a very, very high level. She treats like very disturbed individuals.

We knew that.

Yeah, so all of this I knew.

Yeah, so I didn't know her real name, which I guess I didn't know was that she was a Jew.

Now I won't read her books. Now I won't read her books because she's a Jew. Clip it. Yeah, I won't read that Jew's books. I feel like Mark Ruffalo.

How does it feel?

Powerful.

Yeah, yeah.

Um, So like, congrats. I thought we knew this, but congrats.

Congrats, Chew. I'm fucking cracking the fuck up.

Oh my God, you sound so funny. Like, I'm seriously cracking.

Can we still call her Frida McFadden though? Like, what's she going to publish her next book as?

That's what I was going to ask.

Are we still Frida-ritas?

I think that she has to keep her name.

It's Freedom McFadden.

Does a pen name only serve when they don't know your identity?

No, like, I feel like pen names still serve, like Lemony Snicket.

Yeah, I think she should keep it. It's also such a great name.

Yeah, and like, I want to read twisted thrillers from Freedom McFadden, not from Sarah Cohen, some random Jew.

Yeah, I'm all set. I like how she made herself Irish. Like, what do you think? She's so— Frida McFadden.

Frida.

Frida McFadden. She like— that's such like so opposite.

Yeah, I mean, maybe she was on to something. Would you think she could have had the success as a Jew?

I have a pen name.

Cojourner's Truth.

Turtle Freebush.

That's not your pen name. Nobody calls you that.

It's just my name.

No, your name is Cojourner.

Turdy Lou. Your name— everybody calls me Turdy.

Your name is Turdy Lou.

What, like when I get stopped in the street?

Turdy Lou.

Yeah. And that, like, even like friends of mine call me—

of course, everybody, sisters.

And you know I've always wanted a nickname. Like, I just love it so much.

Sure. Really? Turd?

Really, dude? Yeah, really, Jew?

Well, anyways, I'm happy for Frida that she feels unburdened by the thing that she didn't know was burdening her.

She's putting the free in Frida.

Yeah, she's free. But I guess like for like, you know, uncultured swine, they didn't know. But like we're so close to it, like we've read every book, like we didn't know this because we also like see her picture when we go on Goodreads and we click the book. So like, yeah, she had to like put herself out there for like probably new fans of the housemaids people who only watch movies, right? Don't read books, right? So now you know.

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Next, Lauren Conrad has an awkward response to her nemesis Spencer Pratt's LA mayoral bid. So the new Laguna Beach Old Reunion on Roku is coming out soon. They're doing Pratt and Stephen, Kristen, and Lauren, which is so crazy. They were all on—

it's insane—

the Today Show with Jenna Bush Hager and Shanice Jones. They were asked if they would vote for Spencer. Great question.

Yeah.

Um, Lauren responded, I'm not a resident of LA. And Stephen said, we live in Orange County. Uh, Kristen said, I've seen it everywhere, I can't get away from it. She said, I don't live in LA either, but I think he's on to something. We'll see what happens. I will always have a soft spot for Spencer. She then— then the host inquired whether Lauren and Spencer have since squashed their beef. From their time on the show. And like Lauren, she said she was confused. She was like looking at Kristen and then— and didn't answer. And she then— she was like, oh, I didn't know the question was for her. She thought it was for someone else and like didn't answer. And then she said, you're asking me about people I haven't spoken to in decades, agreeing that she doesn't care at this point.

I mean, the refreshing thing about Lauren Conrad is she's probably one of the only people from reality TV who has like genuinely no interest interested in ever being on TV again. She's completely not media trained, so it's very refreshing to like just hear a normal person talk. She was on Kristen Cavallari's podcast talking just about like, you know, her decision to do the Roku thing and her obsession with like not wanting to be famous and how her time during The Hills— I guess it was just like so successful, all the different ventures like the books and the shows— that she just doesn't have to work. And she's so blessed because she just like lives with her family and she hangs out with her friends, and that's exactly how she wants it. It's just like, it's so unbelievable to Kristin Cavallari, who's like the total opposite, who's been like hustling from the second that the show ended. Um, and it's just two totally different girls with two totally different perspectives. So this question is just like, you're not gonna get like a media-trained— I wonder if like somebody even briefed Lauren on like that this might potentially come up, former castmate, and like maybe, you know, to have like a more polished answer.

And like, I do believe that she didn't think the question was for her because she's so not strategic.

Yeah, I also think she fucking hates him. Yeah, still does, always will. Like, you just never forget your first. And even though you think, like, oh, it's reality TV and it's 10 years later, like, to her, like, that's her Roman Empire. Like, she's not moving on, especially, like, why would she move on? Nothing's happened to make it better.

No, and I actually think the beef is not even from the show, because we know so much of the show was scripted, and like, maybe, you know, you're just young and Yeah, they thought he was a bad boyfriend, but you know, Heidi and Spencer have a great marriage.

It was like a sex tape thing that—

what's a sex tape?

When they were fighting on the show, it was, um, because like Heidi and Spencer— she said Heidi and Spencer started a rumor that like she had a sex tape with Jason Waller that was out there. And that's when she's like, you know what you did.

Oh, that's really bad. But I also was going to say, I think a lot of her resentment is things that Spencer has said long after the show, right? Like try to No, and he like was trying to reverse psychology, like Lauren's the villain, trying to like turn people on Lauren. Um, and so I think a lot of it, like, maybe you can get past like teenage drama. Yeah, the sex tape maybe not so much, but I think a lot of it is like not even about the show, it's about the years later, like they kind of don't stop.

Yeah, that's true. I don't know how much she sees of that, but I think it's like just like that was like friendship ending for her and like nothing since then has like brought it back. Um, but it is so interesting how she was able to like make, I guess, enough money from the show and like her, her ventures afterwards, because she still like works and like has her line at like Kohl's and stuff, and just like that, she set herself up so nicely to not have to work forever, where it's like no one else has been able to really do that in reality TV.

Well, she probably like took the deals that other people didn't want. You know, you're on top of the world, who wants to work with Kohl's, right? But she has a licensing line there for what? 15 years now. Yeah, like, it's so smart, and I think she makes mailbox money. And yeah, she does have Instagram, and I think she's like a little blog company, whatever. I don't think that's really what's paying the bills.

Um, no, but she's like a lifestyle influencer.

Like, yeah, but she doesn't do like a million brand deals.

No, but she used to. Well, she has to like, you know, have a brand out there in order for people like want to buy her stuff. And certainly in the years after The Hills, she did like more like— like, she was like such a vibe, you know, the hair.

Oh my God, her book books, her coffee table books, and like her braid in her hair and like the waves and the pictures. She was like a Tumblr girl.

Yeah. And so like, I think she actually has like a really great household name of like, oh, if you're telling me it's Lauren Conrad, I know the vibes.

Beach. Yes, beachy California.

Yeah, yeah.

And she looks the same.

I want to watch her on Kristen's podcast. And I wonder why she decided to do the reunion.

She talks about it because she wants to put a pin in it forever. And so they were doing this with or without her, and so she felt like it was the perfect way to close the chapter because she gets a million opportunities over the years to do this, talk about it.

She never does it back. She didn't go on it.

Um, I think she had a very positive experience to doing Back to the Beach, which they spoke about on Kristen's podcast again, and she thought this was like the perfect way to end it. It was happening. She didn't want to not be a part of it. And she's like, and I'd never want to talk about it ever again.

Okay. And you know what, I want to watch it because now that I love Steven from Traders— what a guy.

Yeah, what a guy.

Um, also our fifth and final story is some more like reality tea OG reunion news. How much did they pay them? Because Roni Icons Bethany, Ramona, and Sonia have teamed up for a skincare advertisement and an iconic—

they're doing a campaign together.

They're doing a campaign together, but it's very big. Um, so Roni Legends, Bethenny Frankel, Ramona Singer, and Sonia Morgan recently reunited in Paris to shoot a campaign for French skincare brand RoC's latest and most advanced anti-aging launch, Retinol Correction Deep Wrinkle Rich Cream. Um, they did like a whole sketch. It was like called The Reunion. It was like— and it was about like Bethenny getting her friends ready to be back on TV. They're like like, it's like, I guess it's scripted, but it's comedy. She's saying like, so that they don't— we need to get them looking good so they don't embarrass me. Like, it was just so— it literally felt like I was watching like an old episode of Housewives.

And what's funny is that they were spotted filming this in Paris, and I think everybody thought that Bethenny was finally joining the Golden Years.

Yeah.

And that they've taken a group trip to Paris. And I thought that's what it was too. And I was like, oh my God, that's so funny. Like, Bethenny made a million videos saying how she would never do it, and then here she is. I think this is a perfect way for her to engage. Obviously they all probably got paid extremely handsomely. That's always—

I imagine Bethany got paid so much for this because for her to like, you know, go back to doing like, you know, Roni Lore sort of stuff— they're going to Paris, they're— she's putting all of her like brand and endorsement behind skincare line. Like, I think this is a huge campaign for them.

Yeah, Rock is also like a Pargi skincare line, and I feel like Bethany's really particular about like where she— and so I think it's I think it's fabulous for everyone. I'm sure Ramona and Sonia were thrilled.

Yeah, and I also think it's so smart to like tap these women who have aged in the public eye like very gracefully for 20 years. Like, you want to sell anti-aging cream, like get—

I don't know if I would say very gracefully, but physically, physically, yeah, but not like behavior-wise.

Physically, like Ramona's in her 70s, it's insane, right? Or she's in her 60s, late 60s, late 60s. If you want to advertise your anti-aging skincare line, call Ramona Singer. I can't think of someone who was so— better endorsement for looking fabulous at any age.

Looking ageless.

Like, someone— Roxx should actually come out with a line in collaboration with her called Ageless by Ramona Singer. Like, I think that's— it's such a great, um—

yeah, Housewives don't get tapped enough because there are— it's, you know, it's a show that focuses on older women, and there are a— and yeah, of course they're all very open about about the fact that they have work done, which is fine, but there are many women on the network who are like insane looking for their age, and they should tap into that more.

Yeah, it's a huge market. I feel like they, you know, everyone's like, oh, who's Gen Z? But like, don't forget about the anti-aging women who want—

who don't forget the boomers with disposable income, with spending power. Correct.

So I think this is really— and I thought the sketches were so cute. I couldn't believe that they got the three of them, especially Bethany, to like participate. I'm like the budget is massive.

I, you know, I appreciate that about Bethany. Like, she, you know, stands where she stands and she says what she says, but she can be bought. That's extremely relatable.

She can be bought, but it has to be like really worth it.

Mm-hmm.

And I don't think she would do it for like any old skincare brand and any amount of money. So like, I, I don't know, I just feel like this is a ringing endorsement. It's really a slay.

Yeah, I, I enjoyed it very much.

And the content was really good. I, it was making me nostalgic.

And I'm like, Bethany was like making them do TikToks. That was cracking up. So funny.

And they're also like talking about skincare in between. It's hysterical, but it— but it worked. Um, and like, Bethany has to go on the new show. I'm sorry.

I know, I know. Like, I understand, I do, but I think not only do they need it because she's so polarizing— like, something about her just grinds the fucking gears— and maybe Kelly Bensimon would have to be escorted out, and I think that would be fine.

Oh, because they don't talk?

Like, no, I think Bethany like actually would never film with 'Kelly Benzimon' ever again. And I would, I would understand. I would. So, like, okay, but I think she should do it. Like, I do.

And this was just such a fun treat to watch.

And I think also maybe part of her hesitation is, like, I do think while she's okay with Jill, I think they've got, like, just tension. That's what I'm saying. So I think that— I do think that they're fine, like, they'll say hi to one another, but I do believe that they both, like, deeply, deeply hate each other. Um, and now Jill's not on the show.

No.

So Bethany should come on.

Oh, okay, because I'm like, well, if they hate—

like, yeah, like Bethany's not at a place where she needs to put herself in situations like that.

And like, her whole thing now is like reality TV reckoning, and she's very like anti-reality TV, so I don't really know how that would all work. But I also think they'll have like way more control over what they're doing versus when they were just starting out and like needed the show and would have done anything to like make it work. It's just different playing field.

I hope she had a good experience with them on the skincare collab, and maybe it'll be the motivation, the motivation that she needs to, to join the show.

It's giving Toasty Lions, I just want to say. Yeah, it was like they flew them out of Paris, very highbrow, to France. Oh, France, s'il vous plaît.

Well, that's our show. A nerafi.

Naraf? I can't see.

Hour 7.

Hour 7. Okay, it's Naraf bordering—

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