Transcript of Giggling about radio city, Molly-Mae, and anti-cuffing season
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com. 'Sup, gigglers? Carry it. Fix your Wi Fi. Manifest that shit.
We can't be managed. I mean, the day just got away from me.
Hello, my Radio City gigglers. Even if you weren't here this last week, we felt you at Radio City. No. Literally. We're basically the rock the Rockettes if they had a attitude problem.
If they were very grumpy and didn't like to actually go to the gym.
We are we are out of shape, Rockettes.
Yes. Rockettes never left their bed and just send each other memes all day. Dude, shout out to the Rockettes.
Shout out. I love them. You wanna know what? I've never seen the Rockettes ever and I feel like that's so not page coded.
That's so not page coded. I saw the Rockettes. And it's funny when you're younger, you literally are, like they just seem like Barbie dolls. Also, you're dying. You're, like, sick.
I actually think I have bronchitis.
Can you spell bronchitis? There's an h. Then no.
What's this? An h thrown? You're like, you got you got me. A silent h? Get the fuck out of here.
No. I don't do silent h's.
Quick okay. Highlights of Radio City. I'll start. Okay.
Or you start. My favorite moment by far beyond it doesn't compare to anything is when me and you by ourselves walked out onto the stage at, like, 5 o'clock before any before the doors opened. I I instantly started crying, which is so not I got so overwhelmed by looking out into, like, the empty crowd and standing on that stage that I instantly couldn't hold it in.
And Paige never cries, so I was, like, that meme where, like, you're holding, like, a broom and you start tapping your friend to be, like, are you feeling that? Like and then I was, like, hugging you, but then I was, like, does she need space? Like but, yeah, you I also think, like, you'd been holding it in a bit. Yeah. And, you know, when you start crying over something, but then it keeps going and you're like, okay.
You just tripped. You had 1 trip. Well, it's because Life is so difficult.
I think it's also for us like, I feel like not to sound, like, sappy or whatever. I feel like when we started giggly squad, even up into up until we started our tour, there was so much noise about, like,
oh, Goose Squad is stupid and, like, what do they even do? And, like, oh, they just, like, talk to each other and they think they're so cool. And, like Okay. That's literally just for men, but continue.
No. That's no. That's what I mean. Like, to have
someone in your ear constantly of being like, oh, what is this tour? And, like, I mean, like, do
you ear constantly of being like, oh, what is this tour? And, like, I mean, like, do you really think you're gonna, like, blah blah blah, whatever, to stand in that moment and just be like, suck my dick. Like
so Sicilian. We're so Sicilian.
We're so
Sicilian. You
use Jojo Siwa Karma.
Wait. Okay. So I get this video of me doing the worm slo mo, and I was like, this I have to post this.
It writes itself. It writes itself.
But then I was like, I was like, do I do a glow rilla? Do I do Frank Sinatra? I went through all of them and then I just funny clicked Jojo Siwa and I was like, wait, why is this fucking perfection? But this is for all those people out there who might be going through something or you feel like you've been wronged in a way or people are out to get to you. First of all, if people are out to get to you, that means you're shining.
That means they're trying to dim a light that you have. You may not see the light, but they see it and that's why they're trying to dim it. And if you keep working hard, you will rise above it all, motherfuckers.
No. My enemies have been working fucking overtime. I actually don't know where they find me hours, and my TikTok's back. Why don't you take a breather? Take a fucking minute, bitch.
I just have to say what happened with TikTok, was that not TikTok just being like, gotcha. No.
TikTok is a giggler. It literally came back and was just like, gotcha.
Gotcha. But okay. Why I know people love trends, but when everyone was just, like, revealing secrets, and I actually wrote a couple, what what was that trend? Why are people acting like the world was gonna end? I'm like, guys, why are we acting like this is the last time we're gonna see you ever and we're all going off the face of the earth?
Here's why I have a a small circle of friends, and it's because I truly don't believe that anyone, like, gets me as a person. Some of the information these bitches were putting out, you'd have to waterboard out of me. I wrote some
of my favorite ones. First of all, it it came out that, like, this influencer who's everyone's paying a lot of money for her glute workouts has a BBL. No. No way. That's a lot of them.
That's a lot of them. It's giving Legally Blonde when she was like, I was getting liposuction. I was getting liposuction. It's the same thing, and girls are all upset. Then a girl who does workouts was like, I wanna let you guys know I wasn't doing any of the workouts.
It's like and then a girl who her whole thing was making coffee every day was like, I've never drank the coffee. Oh, wait. That's fucking hilarious. And then she was like, coffee influencers? Yes.
And then some of the girls were like, yeah. I've been on Ozempic. I liked those ones. Yeah. I loved those.
I felt like it was a time for people to it was it felt like the Titanic where we're all about to get off and you're like, I don't wanna say anything. Like, I don't wanna get anything off their chest. And then the Titanic didn't sink.
They were like, oh, wait. Actually, we found a life raft. And you're like, okay. You know, this Sebastian Maniscalco skit where, like, his I think it's the name of 1 of his specials where he's just like, aren't you embarrassed? Like, when people were crying and then it came back, I was like, aren't you embarrassed?
Like, delete
it. When it was gone for a night well, first of all, everyone freaked out because they did it early, which was fucked up. Like, don't say it's going down on Sunday and it goes down early, and everyone's probably, like, enjoying their last couple moments. But Yeah. Let's be honest.
People low key had the most freeing couple hours of their life.
No. I started when they came back, I actually felt like, oh my god. I'm, like, trapped by social media. Like, even if you get away from it, it's like it's people are still on their chest.
Yeah. It's like when Instagram goes down or even, like, COVID, we all for a second were like, oh, well, I'm not feeling guilty for not, like, going outside because no one's going outside. That's how I felt. But people were posting funniest TikToks when it came back. Someone was like, I had so much fun learning about who my kids are last night.
Oh, yeah. I saw a bunch of women being, like, decided to get to know my husband last night. He's pretty cool.
I actually started reading. I learned how to read yesterday.
No. There was a moment when, like, that Sunday when I was like, oh, it's going down tonight that I was like, maybe I'll start puzzling.
Maybe I'll get a hobby. No. I was like, should I become a painter? Yeah. I think it was beautiful, but also, like, so many people are able to monetize it and Yeah.
I mean, that
part is, like, I'm so happy for, like, the small business people who have, like, their whole lives have changed. Like, that's Mhmm. But they're hustlers, so they would've, like, hustled somewhere else. Like, I like, if you started a small business and were able to quit your corporate job and, like, live, you're a fucking hustler, and I'm proud of you.
I just want us to all keep our eyes open. Like, I am just worried about, like, who's in power and why and, like, what algorithm they're trying to push on us, but hopefully it just helps us all get that back and be entertained, whatever you do. 1 more thing about the Gigglers. When I feel like we're performing for the Gigglers, I don't feel like it's like we're the stars and they're, like, fans. Like
No. It felt like we all made it.
Yeah. But also, like, in the crowd, like, they're, like, joking back at us Yeah. Which is, like, the comments.
No. So many girls in their front were saying comments that then I repeated into the microphone because it was fucking hilarious.
They're fucking they're in it with us. It felt like a big crazy brunch. And then we did a q and a at the end, and this girl raises her hand and she's like, can I come on stage? Yeah. Paige was like, do you have a gun?
Like, there's, like, has to be some more context to this.
No. Also, there's never any security at giggly squad because I don't think the men at the theater know what's about to go down.
So, like We've had security straight up be like, if something did go down, I can't take on 6,000 girls. Yeah.
And we're like, what do we do to tackle
a girl? We're not gonna let you touch her. Don't fucking touch her. So then she's like, can I just go on stage and show you something? And in that moment, I'm like, okay, she's a giggler, like, we let her do anything.
Yeah.
Do whatever you want.
Do whatever you want. So she goes on stage and we start we're like, are you doing the worm? Like, what are you doing? And she's like, just watch, just watch. She does, like, a rocket kick down into a split.
And she was perfect.
The whole crowd loses their mind. And I'm like, wait. All of you could be on stage right now? It was like a talent show for the giggler.
No. It's so crazy. 1 girl posted, and it really just, I just felt like such a feminist icon. It made me so proud of us. She was like, giggly squad is proof that women do not dress for men.
There is not a man in sight at giggly squad unless he is a taken boyfriend. And and if that's the case, we're not fucking looking at him. Mhmm. So the girls coming in their outfits, I was just so proud to be a girl. Also, New York City, the girls can dress, honey.
Like, they looked so fucking good.
The girls, it's so funny too who's dressing for you and who's dressing for me. Yeah. And it's to the point that, like, I feel bad complimenting a girl who's clearly so page coded because I almost feel like she'll be insulted if I think her outfit's cute. No. The ties,
No. The ties and, like, the bows, it was just you know where you are.
It was a perfect synergy.
Radio City truly felt like the new house of Scientology. You know?
Well, someone said something like TikTok is the new TV. Movies, like watching a movie on TV is like the new movie theater and then movie theaters are like the new concerts and then concerts are, like, a full cult
meeting. Yeah. No. We had a we started a cult. We low key started a cult.
Joel Olsteen for Hot Girls.
It's crazy. We started on Instagram live with, like, 3,000 girls.
See, that's why when people be talking shit about Instagram, I'm like, look. We Put some respect on it. Put some respect on Instagram lives during COVID for keeping us afloat during our dark, dark demise. What a
time to be alive that was.
What a time to be alive. Also, I do have to say, I used to think that, like, straight guys should come on come to Gigli Squad if they were smart because it's just all, like, the hottest, smartest girls, who funniest girls, most successful girls in every city, like, come together that in a show. But then I realized the girls by the end of the show wanna stone a man. Like, it's actually unsafe for them.
No. I feel like the empowerment when you leave a Gigli Squad show, you're like, I can fucking do anything. Like, I truly feel like the next president of the United States was in the crowd, you know, and she was wearing a tie. You know, like
The Giggler's in the mail bathroom, and then there'd be, like, a dude in the bathroom, and they literally beat his ass to be, like, get out of here. It's for the girl.
1 of my 1 of my girlfriends came to the show, and her boyfriend after the show was, like, like, you know, I was in the men's bathroom and I was uncomfortable. Should I not be in there? I was like, no. Get the fuck out of there. Hold it.
No. And now you know how it feels to be a woman 247 on this earth.
He was like, the line was crazy. I'm like, well, that's where we make friends. Okay?
So my dad actually could not come to Radio City because he had COVID. Who knew that that was a thing in 2025? And, like, he got it bad. Like, he was out for the count.
He was down bad.
So, like, down, down, bad. So I call him yes no. He called me, humble brag, which we joke about, like, when your dad calls you.
2 things are happening. He didn't mean to it was a butt dial or your entire family is dead?
So I was worried. He goes, hey. I'm so proud of you. I saw the photos. You guys looked amazing.
I'm really excited for your book to come out. And I was like, what? Like, that's in April. What are you talking about? And he goes, my mom, he goes, your mom sent me like a copy of the final book.
A copy, yeah.
And I read it all weekend. And I was like, wait, what? And he goes, it's the best book I've ever read. I was like, what? And he goes, no.
He goes, I feel so inspired, but I was laughing. He goes, this book is gonna be amazing. And I'm like, dad, we didn't even get a quote from you on the back of the book. I didn't even know you knew we had a book coming out.
Wait. Can I add that we literally set up a play date with our dads, and I felt like I felt like your dad I felt like my dad was being like, can I have a sleepover with Danny? Or, like, is that okay? Like, you know? Like, when my dad heard that your dad wasn't coming to Radio City, my dad's whole night was ruined.
He was like, wait. What?
So upset. And when I said COVID, he thought I was lying. And then my dad goes
call him.
My dad goes, how's Gary? And I was like, Gary's great. And he goes, could I text him? Like, is that weird? I'm like, I don't even know if Gary has a if Kim lets Gary have a phone.
Well, I know what's so funny is my dad doesn't have an email address.
I see, that's the energy I was getting.
That's the energy my dad gives. The energy my father gives is I don't know. Ask him. Like, why the fuck would I have an email address?
Why are all moms so much better with technology than dads? Like, my mom has Facebook, Instagram. She knows that you do the math.
In the time. They put in the time to learn Yeah. What they don't know.
Because men want it to be the fifties still when they still were in power, so they're not updating anything.
Mhmm.
I love that he doesn't have an email.
No. We truly have the epitome of girl dads.
Yeah. My dad remember at the Knicks game, we took a photo, and I was like, okay. I'll post it on your Instagram for you, and he goes, put it in an Insta Story. And I was like, you don't wanna put me on your grid? And he's like, no.
I like to see who's looking at it. And I was like
My mom thanked me the other day for putting, her on my grid. She was like, that was really sweet of you. I was like, oh my god. I'm obsessed with you guys.
Oh, I'm glad 1 of our parents wants to put wants to be on someone's grid. No. My dad straight up was like, do not put our photo on my grid. I don't want that. It's gonna ruin my grid.
It's the esthetic. Okay.
Wait. Speaking of grids, what do you think about Instagram changing the, like, length of the photo?
That threw me.
It threw me. And everything's, like, shifted to the left. I We organized
yeah. It's not done. I feel like they're, like, in the middle of something, but it's, like, we put it as a square. So when you make it longer also, now I don't know what's look. Again, we never, like, change and then Social media
is, like, going through it right now. Social media is, like, Mercury in retrograde. They're, like, trying to figure out their path.
Yeah. And, like, I I support it. It's just do you remember when we got so upset about Insta Stories? Like, we lost our mind. We're, like, this is Snapchat.
This is just Snapchat. Like, we were so mad.
Wait. For the longest, I, like, couldn't put music on my grid or my stories. I just got it fixed right before Radio City. Thank God.
Thank God. We both went differently. I did Frank Sinatra old school, and you went, like, Cam'ron?
Yeah. I went I went old school rap Cam'ron.
So Paige is back in her music era. Sure am. And 1 thing we don't tell the gigglers, which is I forgot because you I don't think you listened to music for, like, 4 years, which was disturbing, which we should have checked on that. You were like, it was too loud up here.
Yeah, I was like, there's so much noise in my brain I couldn't actually think about listening to someone else.
1 thing about me and you is we love hardcore, pussy popping, misogynistic, offensive, fucked up rap. Like, we were getting our makeup done, and I was like, let's put music on.
At 1 point, I think your mom was like, oh. 0, no. Is this getting you guys pumped up? We're the most actually
getting. Female empowering green room, like, so powerful, and I'm like, put on some rap about fucking bitches and and strippers. Money. Yeah. They're getting money.
We we do have the same taste in music.
I told someone they were like, oh, what's, like, your walkout song? And I was like, actually, it's, like, ASAP Rocky, like, fucking problems. And they were like Problems. They were like, wait. Really?
Like, I would have thought you guys would have had something, like, poppier or, like, girlier, like a female rapper, and I was like, I don't know. It was the first ever song from the very first live we ever did, and we've never changed it because it is just such a fucking vibe. And I feel like when we're walking out, it's like we're saying to the girls in the crowd, like, you're a bad bitch.
Like Yes. I love bad bitches. That's my fucking problem, and, yeah, I like to fuck. I got a fucking problem. That's some empowering shit that we have taken.
Yeah. No. I've taken that. Whatever. ASAP Rocky is married to girl's girl.
1 of the most feminist bitches on the planet who is, like, an icon runs shit. So, like, if he if anyone knows, it's him.
So my new walkout song, because I've been doing fucking problems forever, for my nude stand up, I'm coming up with ASAP Ferg. I don't know what's going on with the ASAP.
A lot
of ASAP.
We love an ASAP.
I don't know the history of the ASAP and it's with the money signal, but I'm doing new level. So I come out going, I'm on a new level. I'm on a new level. Put these in the dark. Chain me with a new bezel.
You know what's crazy? It's like what I want.
I can't I have 0 rhythm. I can't even dance.
I feel like you're the kind of dancer that, like, every now and then you can. Every now and then,
if it hits me, I can do it. But if I think about it too much, I can't.
Like, if someone watched you for an extended period of time, they're they'd be like, this is horrible. But, like, in a 10 second answer story, they'd be like, oh, she's a good dancer. She's just gonna be back right now.
Yeah. That's the energy I wanna give. I wanna I want you to wonder, is she a good dancer or not?
Yeah. Like, is she a good dancer or pretending to be a bad dancer?
Right.
Is she a good dancer, but she's just drunk right now? Yeah. That's the energy we wanna give.
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I was with, Caroline Banowitz this other weekend starting my new material shows, and, she's 1 of my Gen Z best friends. She considers me Gen Z. I've never asked her, but I assume. It was 1 of those moments where I realized I was older than her.
Stop. Oh my God. Those are so humbling. What was yours?
It was it was humbling. Oh my God. I'm gonna gag. Yeah. Like, it's just weird because we're both Gen Z.
So we, an Ashley Simpson song comes on because I was doing my angry woman playlist and I was like, I fucking love this song and she's like, it's so good. And I go, I miss her old nose. And she goes, what? Pardon? And I was, like, Ashley Simpson's old nose before she got a nose job.
And she goes, Ashley Simpson got a nose job?
My Ashley Simpson is brunette on SNL lip syncing. That's my Ashley Simpson.
That is the only Ashley Simpson I've ever known and ever will know, and I don't accept this new this new Ashley Simpson is AI. Okay? And she's, like, she had a nose job, and I go, oh, and so I was showing her the photos, and she's, like, oh my god. She's so cute. And I'm, like, were you 3?
Hello?
Hello? Simpson has been that bitch. She will always be that bitch. Bitch. She 1 of the 1 things I love about Ashley Simpson is that, like, had a career, awesome, amazing.
Everyone loved her, and then she was just like, fuck it. I'm getting married and, like, having kids and doing whatever the fuck I want and, like, loves her husband. She got so much backlash. So from that SNL night.
Where it's like nowadays, I don't
People just wanted to hate on her because, 1, they were mad that she, like, got a career from her sister, which, like, if you're the older sister and you're a megastar,
completely different vibe of, like, punk and Way different genre. And badass and baggy jeans and and grunge, and, like, it was so great.
2 things that stick in my head about, like, that time of life is Ashley Simpson getting berated from SNL and them calling Jessica Simpson fat when she was a size 6.
Jessica Simpson got is getting separated from her husband.
It's breakup season. So is Jessica Alba. So is Kaia Gerber.
So is Rachel from The Bachelor.
Something's in the air, and women are like, hey. You know what? No. Gary, can you get me a water?
And an oxygen tank.
And an oxygen mask.
I do think that, I'm kind of loving this breakup season because normally this should be cuffing season, but I feel like for the girls, they're like, it's winter and I actually just wanna, like, watch murder documentaries and fart on my own and I don't need someone to cuddle with. Cuddling, overrated. Just get out of your yard. Summer is fun. You're hooking up.
You're tan. You're making out with guys. Winter, don't fucking touch me. Okay?
No. Like, I wanna be wrapped in my sweatpants in a fur blanket with my fuzzy socks. And if you're also under my same blanket, I'm gonna get hot, and I don't wanna get hot. You know? Like, I've I have the perfect temperature right now.
Get your freaking sweaty balls away from me. Do you
know in certain other countries and cultures, partners have their own duvets? And that's nice. Yeah. I don't know why we're for I mean, the whole sleeping in the same bed thing.
I'm so down to have separate bedrooms with my husband, but, like, sleep in the same bed at night. Like, I'm so down to go to his bedroom at night and sleep and then, like, keep my room pristine and, like, my stuff. I think that should be more normalized. Like, we have separate rooms, but, like, if we wanna sleep in the same bed every night, like, we can, but, like, I'm gonna go back to my room in the morning. Also, like, I feel like that sounds, like, spicy.
Like Yes. You know, like, miss me.
Do you wanna sleep with me tonight? And it's like, I don't know. We'll see. I might come in later.
Yeah. Like, I'm gonna watch my shows first, and then, like, maybe I'll come in. Like, you can, like, change your pajamas, be a whole new bitch. Or you can lock the door and put a chair in front of it and say fend for your fucking self.
I told you during my naughty years, my early twenties, when I was dating the guy Craig from Craigslist, and we were hiding our Which
I feel like just doesn't get talked about enough.
It doesn't get talked about enough, but if we and we didn't want the other roommates to know we were hooking up. Mhmm. We would be the last to be watching TV together on, like, separate couches. Just happened to both be watching a show.
Yeah.
And then we'd go into his room and then at, like, 4 or 5 AM, I'd go back to my room. And then in the morning, I'd pretend I was, like, so grossed out and annoyed by him in front of the other roommates. Like, he's making oatmeal again. Ew.
No. I mean, you have a
girl an Oscar.
No. It's it's so fun to, like, have a little
Will they, won't they?
You know? Yeah. Will they, won't they?
I'm trying to think what I what I do with Des is I fall asleep on the couch and he's like, I'm going to bed. Can you please come in soon? And then I lie to him and I'm like, I'm literally right behind you. And then obviously I get a second wind and suddenly I need to scroll every single app and then I need to, like, start a Molly Maid documentary and then I come in at 2 AM and wake him up Yeah. Accidentally.
Let's talk about a Molly let's get to it.
Let's get to it. I I watched all 3 episodes last night for you.
Yeah. Same.
And I'm a fan, but I knew that we were gonna discuss.
The way I loved her prior to this document there's something of here's the thing.
What do you think is the Molly Mae effect?
Here's what I'm gonna say. When you see certain people on TV or on Instagram or on TikTok and you see these influencers, there are a hand there now there's a lot of people that can get a lot of followers, go viral, say something crazy, get a little, like, traction. There are a handful of people that when you see them on a screen, you feel it in your soul of, like, they have something. Like, they have some it factor. They have some type of star quality.
You can't pinpoint it, but you're like, they make me feel a different way than just, like, scrolling all these influencers. Molly May is 1 of those people where she just has this spark, this, like, she's a star type of thing. Like, when she appeared on the screen on Love Island, I didn't know that she was, like, a famous influencer in England. She had had some she had followers, but she was nowhere as famous as she is now. When she walked into that villa, I was, like, she's a star.
I don't give a fuck about any other girl in this house but her, and she was full blonde. And that's usually not my type. No. No. I was like, I love her.
And that was a season the first season me and you ever watched together during the COVID season of Summer House when we were trying to stay in bed because whenever we left, we'd have to fight with people. So we were just trying to watch
Love Island. Try to stay in our damn lane. Look. We tried. We tried to stay in our own lane.
People didn't know we were trying.
I said, let's learn some English slang. That'll keep us occupied.
But you know what is? Molly Mae is very page coded where, like Oh my god.
Thank you.
I didn't feel that connection to her. Oh god. Like, you immediately were, like, outpace to everything. Where I was, like, I was like, I like her,
but I You girl. Yeah.
I wasn't I think also yeah. We me me and Paige are different with, like, people that Who we become obsessed with. We've never been obsessed with the same people.
No. Oh my god. No. We haven't. No.
We don't have the same, okay, we don't have the same, like, favorite celebrities and we don't have the same, like, favorite male celebrities.
We have complete opposite type in men and complete opposite type in women. No. Like Oh, we really do. When we meet people, like, we've never both been hyped up for someone.
Hannah, no. We haven't. Like, actually, I specifically remember 1 time meeting someone and you being like, oh my god. I'm so obsessed. And me being like, I feel like they don't really like me.
Or, like, when like, someone comes up to me and you're like, oh my god. Paige, we love you. And you're like, okay. Well, that was weird. I'm standing right here.
Like, that does happen to us a lot, I feel like.
All the time, actually, people will either be, like, obsessed with Paige or obsessed with me or, like, pretend to be obsessed with both of us. Yes. And we're like,
you don't have to pretend.
We get it. I feel like if we met Molly Mae, like, she'd be excited to see you.
Yeah. I get that. No. I love her.
But my thing with Molly Mae is she really reminded me of you in that this whole thing is, 1, about her having a public relationship and then her dealing with backlash, whatever, and then her starting her own fashion brand. But what I loved about this documentary, which made me fuck with Molly Mae, is that a lot of these documentaries are like, look at me, why I'm so amazing.
Yeah.
This bitch cried the whole time.
Cried the whole time.
Cried the whole time. And, like, not like, there are so many things that I'm like, they could've cut that out. Like, I and it wasn't even, like I don't know. Just really fucking raw.
I think another reason why I loved the documentary so much was, like, after we did our beta blocker episode and after we did, like, our breakup episode, I had so many girls saying, like, the nicest things to me, and they were like, no. You truly don't understand. Like, I feel really seen with the things you said. Molly Mae said so many things during that documentary that I was just like, holy shit. Like, I feel so fucking seen.
Like, yeah. I fucking knew that wasn't my fault. Like, that is Mhmm. Just so many different things where I was like, damn. I went through that same thing or, like, I know how that feels, whatever.
Like, she was really showing behind the scenes. For example, she's launching her first, fashion line, fashion line, but she's doing her first event where people were gonna see it and she's like I haven't ever done like a live event meet and greet with people and it shows her freaking the fuck out about every detail of it and like we've all been there where it's your name on it and, like, you feel like other people aren't caring about it. Like, you care about it and you know you're the only 1 that gets backlash if it doesn't come out right. And you're, like, you start just feeling like I'm fucked. And her leaning into that, her also saying how she takes, like, hundreds of thousands of pics and sometimes will just keep up on the pick.
Like, there was so many of them.
Decoded. Remember when I was really obsessed with my grid and it was, like, literally putting me into, like, a It was actually,
like, ruining your life. I didn't even know. I mean, she even mentioned she was, like, girls like me because my fashion and my grid. And I was, like, oh, I guess that I thought that was a thing you made up.
No. Well, my grid is, like, so important.
Are you telling me you think people don't follow me because they see my grid and they're, like, oh.
But pages don't.
I didn't know that the grid No. I I'll
follow a bitch in fucking Siberia if I'm like, damn. Her grid is esthetic.
What makes the grid, like, just, like, similar colors?
It makes me happy. Like, it's just, like, looking at it makes me happy. But, like,
can you explain what makes a grid esthetic? Or it's, like, you can't put your finger on it?
It just has to be, like, equal parts cohesive, but equal parts different and cool and, like, it's it's honestly a lot of pressure. Like, I really felt I really felt for Molly Mae. I was like, no. I get it. Like, your grid is so important.
It's also our creative outlet. Like, it's what we see in our brain. And then to put out into the world of, like, I think this picture looks really cool next to this picture, and, like, this outfit complements this outfit. And, like, I'm wearing red in this outfit and, like, a little bit of red in that 1, so I'm gonna put those pictures near each other because it looks pretty. Like, it's all about, like, matching.
Yeah.
Imagine a guy's, like, I was into Paige, but then I saw her grid and she had, like, yellow randomly on, like, the 3rd row, and I was like, I don't fuck with her.
Okay. Well, that man is gay.
1 of my favorite scenes was this meet and greet where, first of all, it was not organized. Like, I don't know what they thought it would be, but they thought people would come in and casually, like, say hi to her. But clearly, like, every single person that went in wanted a photo with her. Mhmm. And she's being so nice, but you could see she's, like, doing hundreds of photos.
And then it cuts to her hiding in the basement crying, saying no one's having fun, and I can't just sit here down here the whole time. But whenever I go up, it's awkward. And then she had to walk outside and just someone was like, hey. Just tell everyone thanks for coming. She walks out.
She says thanks for coming, turns back, and she goes, that was so fucking awkward, and everyone hates me. Like, it was so funny because when you're a fan of someone, you don't see that side of it that, like Yeah. They're feeling embarrassed.
That's how I felt after my panic attack at giggling. I was like, yeah. Everyone hates this show. They're never gonna come. They think I'm bad at this.
Like, it you really you're in your own head.
It reminded me of you. It reminded of you in terms of, like, our first meet and greets, Paige would get blackout because she, like, couldn't do it. I was so nervous. And then you because it was like meet and greets can be hard where every person you want them to have the best experience and if you think you had an awkward interaction with someone, which happens, you think you you suck and then you start spiraling and you think everyone hates you.
I'm like, oh my god. That girl definitely hates me and never is never gonna listen to giggly squad again. Here's 1 thing I do wanna point out that I found so so empower not I don't even know. Whatever. Just like a fucking man, she was hitting the pinnacle of her career, something she had been working on for 3 years.
No 1 even knew she was coming out with a fashion line. It's literally about to drop within those couple of months. She's so stressed about it. She's been working on it for so long. Just like a fucking man to come in, fuck up her whole mental health.
She's now gotta deal with him and his fucking problems while simultaneously dealing with, like, launching this that she's been thinking about since she was a fucking child. Mhmm. And he just ruined it. He ruined it for her. I think about it all the time.
Not that this is related whatsoever, but when I watched the, who are they? Jonas Brothers. The fighters. No. Oh, Tyson.
Logan Paul. What's his name? Yeah. Jake Paul. Jake Paul, the 1 that that thought Mike Tyson.
When I was watching his documentary, obviously, like, his girlfriend was in it because it was, like, whatever. When men do a documentary about something that they're, like, it's their career, their girlfriend or significant other or whatever is always in the documentary about how much she supported him and how much, like, what did she give up so that he could do that or, like, how did it impact her fucking day? Never touch on her fucking life.
And that girl's, like, a professional skier or something. Yeah.
That girl's a professional fucking athlete. Never touched on it. They didn't give a fuck. We're here, like, when it's but when it's a woman, it's so if that was a man if if Jake or whatever the fuck his name is was doing his about to do that fight and his girlfriend went and fucked up his mental health or, like, cheated on him or did something, they'd be like, you are the devil. How could you not fucking support him?
But when it's a woman and she's putting out a clothing line and a man wants to come in and act like, it's not that big a deal. Like, I'm gonna hit you with some, like, real fucked up emotional shit. No 1 says anything. No 1 says anything. Why is Tommy not getting so much fucking hate right now for, like, you ruined her launch.
You literally ruined it. I don't know, but I'd like to. Unless they're back together and that's a a decision that she made and I support her.
And we support it. I do think that the mom made a interesting statement or the sister where they were like, we support you being married to Tommy, but it's not gonna be easy to marry Tommy. So if you wanna marry a famous man, you can, but you're gonna have to sacrifice a lot of happiness when that famous man has a drinking problem.
1 time my mom said to me, I think you would live a fine life. Do you wanna live a fine life?
Oh. 0. Kim. Kim,
come on. It's 10 AM.
Chill. I think we've all been in that position. I remember when I was in that position once where I found a man and I knew, like, I got some stuff from it for my ego, but I remember feeling like I was signing a deal with the devil and I didn't know what to do, but then my body didn't stop letting me eat. So that's how I knew. And
you guys
said My body was physically rejecting him.
She had hit her goal weight, but at what cost? At what cost?
I remember I ordered a sandwich, and it was like we were working at my 9 to 5, and I couldn't finish the sandwich, which was very out of character for me. And I was really paranoid that people were noticing, and then I remember being, like, what the fuck is wrong with you? You hate this man. Get out of this relationship just because other people think he's cool.
See, I know when that happens to me when, like, I'm not genuinely an awkward person, but when I start being really awkward and, like, clumsy, I'm like, oh, my body doesn't like where we are or, like, what we're doing. Like, I Well,
yeah. You almost your body starts to, like, fall apart and your brain and body are, like, you're not it's out being out of alignment. That's what it's literally being out of alignment and your body will
tell you. Like, this is not good for you.
No. When I lose my appetite, there's a fucking problem. Yeah. There's 1 thing being nervous. There's no thing your body getting sick from the situation you've put it in.
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No. But I'm just so obsessed with Molly Mae. I think she she also just seems so sweet and genuine and, like, works really hard and you know, and you wanna know the other thing? She didn't say a bad fucking thing about him. No.
She did not say she did not drag this man. She could have she probably has got stories for days. The only thing she said that I was just like, wow. When she said Tommy doesn't have a drinking problem, but when he drinks, there are problems, and I begged him not to drink at my sister's wedding. Oof.
Like, that oh my god. You must have been holding that in for so long and the shit that you probably dealt with behind closed doors to make sure that this man didn't get bad press or, like, because people would have inevitably came at you too. And you wanna know what? If he did do some fucked up shit drinking, the press would have just been like, Molly, you're stupid for staying with him. Mhmm.
But but then when you don't support it, it's like, oh my god. You couldn't, like, work through it. You couldn't help
him, like drinking thing is crazy because they'll then be like, oh, I know I cheated, but it's because of my drinking problem. And and it's the thing, you feel empathy because it's like that wasn't him. Like, he has a drinking problem, but then you have to decide. And look, this affects a lot of people. Drinking problems, not I personally don't know too much about it, but what I know is it's not what you will see in the movies always of a guy waking up with the shakes and then needs to have whiskey at 11 AM.
It's a majority of the time and we joke about it as comics that it's in your twenties, it's cute. In your thirties, you go, do I have a problem? And this happens to a lot of people in their thirties, men and women, but if every time you or your partner or your friend drinks, some bad shit happens and they
keep controlling. That's a drinking
there's problems when you drink. That's a drinking problem. And, look, I there's I'm saying this as a firm coach right now because
You're also saying this as a wife of someone who is sober.
Mhmm.
So, you know, so, like, that's like a big
Actually, you know what? I do have a little 2¢ because my husband's been sober since 19 he's 19 years old, and I've learned a little bit about that stuff. But there's a lot of people that the only thing between you and success in your life, and by success, I mean a loving family, healthy friendships, a healthy career, sometimes alcohol is the 1 thing that's been done in the
that, like, our generation was kind of fed, oh, a drinking problem is you wake up every day. You your body can't function if there's not alcohol inside of it. I've met a ton of alcoholics that can go 5 days without drinking. Mhmm. But the minute they pick up a drink, it's absolute mayhem.
And I'm gonna be honest, he probably did so much shit to her Mhmm. That she never got over it.
Well, she said she's like, I let him get away with a lot of shit, so we don't even know. Yep. We don't even know. We don't even know what she's protected him from.
Yeah.
And, I
mean, as 2 people it's like it's in the public being, like, all the hate is going to her where she's probably sitting home being, like, you don't fucking if you knew half the shit this man has done to me, like, it's crazy. I just feel bad for her.
We're in we've done reality TV where we see the, like, people doing things when they're drunk that are so fucked up. Like, I've had stuff fucked up done to me, and then the next day, it doesn't count because they were drunk. But you don't don't forget what they said to you. Don't forget what they did to you, but then you're the fucked up 1 because you're holding grudges when it's like but they do this every weekend. But, because I'm I wasn't blackout.
I have to forgive them.
I'm gonna, let's take back the meaning of, like, holding grudges. You know what? If you did something fucked up to me 2 years ago and I never got over it, that's not my fault. That's literally not my fault. Boundaries.
You did something so insanely fucked up that, like, I wouldn't be able to get it out of my head unless I had a fucking lobotomy. So every time I look at you, I fucking think of it.
That's why women were getting lobotomies in the twenties because men had prohibition getting blackout doing fucked up stuff to them and then would lobotomize them so they'd forget what they did.
Truly. So I I actually I know Molly Molly Mae said in the documentary, like, I'm trying to get through all of this in the hopes that me and Tommy get back together, And, like, I want her to get whatever she wants. I really pray that she does not get back with him. I hope she co parents that beautiful baby with him, and I hope she meets someone who supports the fuck out of her. Mhmm.
And, like, also, Tommy, you're not your brother. Like, you don't have the career your brother does. Your your wife makes more money than you. Maybe sit and chill for a fucking second.
Wait. Sorry. I'm laughing because I love how we started this conversation being, like, whatever Molly wants to do is perfect, and now we're, like, if she gets back with that man no. It's just the point when she starts breaking down in the 3rd episode. This isn't, okay, this is what happens.
So she goes, spoiler alert. It's because I swab alert. Sorry. She does she's like, I want to get back with him. We all got that, like, no.
No. Because you're watching it and you're watching how amazing she is and then she's sitting there crying not because of what's going on with her career, but because he's this stupid dipshit. He ruined he ruined what you've worked your whole
life for. He tried to ruin it. He tried to ruin it. And I think as women, we sit back and we're like, he didn't mean to. He didn't know, like, what he was saying.
He, like and we make such excuses. He knew what he was doing. Mhmm. He wanted to ruin it for you. He had no regard.
That's why he got drunk at your sister's wedding, like, and fucked up whatever he fucked up. Like, he didn't care that you were about to go through all this turmoil Mhmm. Simultaneously with the launch of your brand.
He didn't give a shit. You're it is so interesting, though, if the roles were reversed, if he would never take her back. Never.
And if the roles were reversed and he was, like, coming out with some big thing and she went and, like, was it seen in a nightclub, everyone would be like, you're a whore. How are you outside? How are you doing? Like, it's the double standard is crazy.
Can I be so mean right now? Yes. Because when I'm watching her and she's beautiful and she's smart and she's empathetic and she's an amazing mother and she's like, but he's great, it's like, I'm sorry. He's a CTE guy who chose to be on reality TV for attention. Pretty looking guy who's been spoiled his whole fucking life, Nepo brother, not Ashley Simpson, not not even as talented.
And and it's, like, what what makes him so because I don't really believe in my heart of hearts that their chemistry like, he's that funny and he's that smart and he's that caring. Because if he was, he wouldn't have fucking embarrassed you.
Yeah. He embarrassed you. He embarrassed you, and then you had to pick up the pieces. That's the thing. When a man embarrasses you and then you still get blamed and then you also have to pick up the pieces and fix it, fuck you.
Like, I'll never forget it.
Look. I love a good looking man. I've made very bad decisions based off of a jawline. But once you spend enough time with that good looking man, you will see their character and their looks fade so fucking quick.
So quick.
I've like, the the ick you get I almost get more icks when a guy's hot because I'm like, oh, you're not only you're lying. Like, you're trying to cover it up with these
Yeah. You're delusional.
Blue eyes or whatever when you're actually the devil. Mhmm. And I don't wanna be conned and be treated like shit.
And be the less hot 1. That's crazy. No.
No. A 100%. A 100%. So, look, we're not team Tommy right now.
No. I'm just not. I'm Molly Mae all the way. I
use And do I empathize with with people who are struggling with addiction a 100%, but you know what I also didn't like? And she very subtly shows a scene in the beginning when they're in the hot tub when they meet for the first ever time and they're sitting in the hot tub and she goes, do you like to drink? And he says, no. And then looks at her and says, do you like to drink? And she goes, not me neither.
You lied to her face the first time you hung out with her. I'm never forgetting that shit. I'm out.
Wait. Can I tell you something? I feel like in terms of dating, I truly feel and this is, like, just based off my own, like, experiences and, like, say whatever you want. I truly feel like women do show you who they are from the jump, and that's why men, like, fall for them Mhmm. Where, like, I feel like you don't really truly see who a man is until, like, 3 to 6 months in, and then you're in it.
And then you're fucking in it, and you're like, wait. Did I miscalculate? Because I told him what I was like, and he was down.
And he was showing you something.
And now all of a sudden you've you've completely changed.
That's why they say with the right 1, he knows first, but you don't. Yes. Because you're looking at it logically.
Yeah. That's yes. And that's exactly
for immediately was wrong for you.
100 per And just be honest,
especially if I fell for immediately, I mean, you were scrolling his Instagram and you're like, I'm gonna marry that man.
Yeah. Yeah. Like, fuck yeah. No. It's because like, women truly, like, I'm like, I want you to be the best version of you so I'll make that version up in my head and then you realize they're not it.
It was that quote we saw from TikTok earlier where men start at 0 and we start at at a 100. So we he has to disprove everything. We believe in him, and we have to show them everything.
Honestly, my biggest example of that is, like, I started dating someone, and I was already on reality TV. And then, like, halfway through, they were like, why do you do reality TV? And I'm like, wait. What? Like, you started dating me knowing this.
Like, I told you what I do, who I am, this I I presented that to you, and you're like, fuck. Yeah. I love it. And then halfway in, you're like, I don't love it. Change it.
And it's like, that's crazy though.
It also reminds me of, like, men will not tell you who they are. They'll show you. So him being like, I don't drink, but then you're blackout all of love island or whatever. Yeah. I don't know.
I wasn't tracking his drinking.
I don't have a drinking problem, but, like, doing the most fucked up shit is crazy behavior. And I do have to
say, like, this little controversial, I love an addict. I don't know if I was an an addict in a past life. I connect with them. I've always I've dated multiple addicts in
my life. Women are fixers. Women are fixers. I've dated multiple addicts because I'm like, I'll help you and I've and I've done it.
I will I will solve all your problems that you've never been able to solve your whole life, but me and non professional will figure it out.
Stick with me, honey. I'll change it. Also,
when you feel love from an addict, there is no stronger love. Once he decides you're his source, girl, that is the attention I want as a Leo. But then you realize, oh, this is not healthy and also he's always gonna choose his addiction over you.
Yeah. No. I I'm definitely a fixer, and I like, if someone come in and fix me, how about that? How about someone comes in and gives me some advice?
But I also feel like the thing a lot of girls would like to be fixers fixers because they're We're maternal. There's more maternal but there's also this, like, if I focus on fixing him, I don't have to address, like, what I'm missing or what I want or any of those things which is more complicated. I think that's why being single is so healthy because you get to learn, like, what you want, what you need. So when he comes in and starts having issues, instead of being, like, a pass a new project so I don't have to focus on myself, you go, woah. Woah.
Woah. I have a project here called me and if you're gonna fuck that up, I actually, like, don't think this is gonna work out.
No. I mean, I've only been single for a couple months, but, like, already, just in terms of, like, my single life, like, my own, like, personal life, like, I I never wanted to work at obviously, like, you wanna work out because you wanna, like, be hot or, like, whatever. I never wanted to work out because I didn't I feel like I literally didn't care about my body. Like, I didn't care if I was healthy. I didn't care if I was strong.
Mhmm.
And then when I was, like, single, I was like, oh, no. Like, I have to, like, stay alive. You know? Mhmm. And so just
like yourself in these streets.
Yeah. Certain things that I was like, I'll never be able to do that. Like, that's so not me. I'll never be able to get into that routine.
Mhmm.
Random like, just naturally came really natural. Like, I've been working out 3 times a week, and it like, I haven't even thought about it.
Like I'm so proud of you.
I don't know. It was just very empowering for, like, my own self to see, like, oh, I thought I'd never be able to quit that, or I thought I'd never be able to, like, start that up. And so then when you're doing it naturally, you're like, wait. I'm way stronger than I was giving myself credit for. I was literally gaslighting myself.
Also, I hate to say it. Sometimes you think, like, you're the problem, but sometimes you just have to change, like, your environment. It's very hard to change yourself when you're doing the same thing every day, but if you it's like why people move or they get out of a relationship or they start a new job. That helps you with change. Also, 1 thing about being a caretaker, I do have to say, like, it is we're not saying don't be a caretaker.
Just make sure where what you're caring for cares for you back.
Right. Like, it really is true. Like, filling up someone else's cup and then, like, not filling yours, it really drains you.
Wait. Did I speaking of Pilates, because I know you've been on a Pilates kick. We both subconsciously, like, started doing Pilates this week. And when I say started, I did it once last week. Mhmm.
And I've done Pilates sporadically because, you know, I'm very busy with hip hop yoga.
Right.
I met with my mom a couple times, so I was like, I'm not signing up for a beginner class. I'm gonna sign up for it's called like mix and it's like, make sure you've done at least 3 Pilates classes. I was like, yeah. I got my ass kicked.
You get your ass beat.
Like, they started off being like, okay. Take your legs and put it over your head. And I was like Yeah. This is a
warm up. Yeah. No. The shakes I get during Pilates is crazy.
The exorcism of your body. And then they keeps using all these words like pelvis, which I I thought was a made up thing.
When they say internal rotation, I'm like, what the fuck does that mean? Clit?
Like, what are we talking?
They're like, internally rotate your hip. I'm like, how the fuck?
Well, how's
it they're like
know if it's internally rotated?
They're like, we're gonna use a muscle that you've never activated before. And I'm like, there's 33? If I didn't need it till now, it's like an appendix. I don't need it. I saw the funniest Pilates Instagram of, like, after you murder someone and it's you, like, pulling the dead body and then it goes to your Pilates instructor and they're
like No. Like, strong back.
Strong back, raise your spine, and the girl, like, changes her posture as she's pulling the dead body.
No. Pilates is really truly actually the only thing that helps my back problems. Because I think I have back problems because I literally, my back was not strong enough, so I would, like, hunch over and, like, it would just, like, hurt so bad. And so I truly feel like it's the only thing that, like, builds muscle in my fucking shoulder.
In your Pernuvo scan, did you have anything going on with your spine?
I didn't.
Okay. Not to brag, but my l 4 and l 5 has a slipped disk.
Well, you're an athlete. You're an athlete. So you probably have so many old injuries that, like
Yes. But I also think I have this obsession with do you know when you buy a sectional, that long part of the couch? Mhmm. That's where I thrive in my life. Yeah.
Like, when in doubt
a chaise. You love a chaise.
You love a chaise. I'm like a cat. That is my comfort zone. Like, there's a sunken spot in this in that part where I live my day. I'm lying down, but then with my head.
Insane. And some I was, like, researching and they're, like, the worst part because sometimes I'll be sitting for a couple days and I'm, like, wow. My lower back's killing me. Like, I just, like, dead lifted something. But your spine is supposed to not be that direction, basically.
So, like, we're doing it to ourselves.
That's why I got an adjustable base bed, truly. Because I was like, I can't sit like this because your head is down looking at your fucking phone.
And for all you Gen z's, my fellow Gen z's listening, being like, are we listening to a podcast about 2 girls complaining about lower back? We're helping you get ahead of it.
No. I have upper back problems. So, actually, we're killing 2 birds with 1 stone.
We're looking out for all of our spines, your l 4, your l 5. We're just, this is for girlhood in general. Keep your spine healthy, your mind healthy.
Do yourself a favor. Book a fucking Pilates class, pet your cat, and shake it off.
Okay, Taylor Swift.
Literally, I wanna, like, go I wanna go do Pilates with Molly Mae and be like, let's find you a man, honey.
Shout out Molly Mae. We love you so so so much.
No. I love her.
Thank you for putting out that show and being so vulnerable.
No. I truly felt I actually felt closer to the gigglers when I watched it because, like, obviously, like, when girls DM me and they're like, you, you know, really made us feel seen, I can I can appreciate it to a point because I'm like, oh, like, that makes me feel so good that my words helped you? Molly Mae's words helped me. So I was like, oh my god. I fucking love the gigglers.
Like, I know exactly how you feel. Like, all I wanted to do was, like, text Molly Mae and be like, you don't understand. Like, that helped me so much. Like, I thought I was a raging bitch sometimes, but really it was, like, no. You were fucking up my shit.
Like, move.
Molly, when you were complaining about your grid and the pressure of your grid, it really changed my life. No. It did. I was in a really dark place, then you talked about your grid stressing you out, and now I feel seen.
No. And she was like, I take a 1,000 pictures and I delete all of them. I'm like, it's my favorite hobby.
No. We love you. We love Ally Mae. Quick update. We have we added more live shows y'all.
We added more live shows. We're in Nashville, New Orleans, Saint Augustine, Hollywood, Florida, Tacoma, Washington, Portland, Oregon, Las Vegas, Nevada, Salt Lake City, Utah. I don't know if any of these sold out. Double check. Go to linktree/gigglesquad.
It's on our Instagram. Also, I'm going to Alabama.
Jesus. When are you going to Alabama?
I think next month. Birmingham. Let's go. We love you guys so much. Thank you for giggling.
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