Transcript of Tick Tock, TikTok: Tuesday, January 7th, 2025

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to The Toast. And happy Tuesday, the first Tuesday in 2025.

Is it? Are you sure about dat? Well, it's the seventh. It's January seventh. It could be.

Actually, I feel like- It is. It is. It's what?

The first Tuesday in 2025.

Okay, thank you for cutting off what was otherwise a brilliant intro. Hey, Jax, how you doing?

We had to backcheck. We had to give a community note.

You did? It's like what It makes us special and different is the lack of-I know, but we hide that later in the episode.

Right out the gate.

Not only is today the first Tuesday in 2025, it's the first Deer Toaster in 2025, and the DTQ, the Deer Toaster's Community, will not be Silenced. We're starting off 2025 with that message. We're putting that forward.

Yes. Bring us your ales.

Give us your tired, your hungry.

I was going to say that, Bring us your tired, your poor willing.

What's it from?

The Statue of Liberty?

Classic. Oh, you know, Ben and I were just having this discussion as a native New Yorker. Neither of us have ever been to the Statue of Liberty. Should we do a day trip, blog it for Patreon?

Do not come. I don't think you would like it. I think if you want to visit landmarks, that's a really fun thing to do. But the Statue of Liberty, she's a seafaring woman.

Yeah.

She is not on land.

Ben had made a good point. We probably will have to do those things in the next couple of years, God with our growing family. Why do it twice?

100%. It will be really fun when you do it with your family, seeing it through their eyes. If you go now, you're going to be this old thing.

That's why Ben sometimes is like, Should we go to Disney? I've heard it's really fun. You can drink. I'm like, No.

Just wait a couple of years.

No. What if we didn't?

I feel like I've got some diz in me soon. I haven't planned anything.

I was actually thinking when the next time you're going to go to Disney is.

I should go in the next few months, tis the season for the Why?

Because it's cool weather and it's not terrible, like Chubb rub weather.

It's not high traffic holiday time. Things are more quiet here before spring break. We went at this time last year and it was pargy.

That just reminded me of something. There's so much about pregnancy that reminds me of my former fat life. I'm sorry, I know when you get pregnant, you're not getting fat. You're building a human, of course. But I would be remiss if I didn't notice the similarities. One of them is I get chub rubbed again. That was something I evolved past.

You left behind.

Yeah. And no, we're back. I've been putting... Even chafing between my breasts, lots of different issues. I have a feeling I'm going to lose the ability to cross my legs soon, which is something I just got back with those Mpicks, so that's upsetting.

I'm sorry.

Yeah. Just like, that's a little bit update about me. Spread them. I will be spreading them on the show in the coming months, and I don't want to hear a word about it.

No, that's fine. Listen as a podcast. We're always available as a podcast if you don't like what you see.

Anywhere, podcast can be found. Imagine not liking what you see.

Hit it. Hit it with the heart. The thing is, I don't check every day to see if we did it.

I checked yesterday. We didn't.

But I know when we do it, the comments are going to go crazy. So I'm just waiting for that moment.

Today is a very special day.

It is because every day on this beautiful planet is a special one.

And?

And because of what you're doing.

Yes, we're actually recording today's episode early. So if you're seeing this a little bit earlier, it's one of the things we can thank my coxedinia for. So today, I have finally decided to take control of my body and my future and seek out some help with my coxedinia. Now, I'm limited in my healing options because I'm pregnant. When I got my diagnosis at first, I couldn't share it with you guys, but I did know I was pregnant. I had just found out a week before. So I can I couldn't really do anything. This is a physiatrist. I'm not sure.

Physiologist?

No, I hadn't heard it. Physiatrist. No. Physicist. Oh, no, no, no, no, Who specializes in pregnant women. Your body. Your body. So I don't know if there's going to be anything she's going to be able to help me with. This might just have to be something I sit tight with until pregnancy ends.

You'll be sitting tight.

Oh, will I? But just know, while you're enjoying this episode, I'm taking control of my body in my future. Can you say the same?

I actually personally can. I don't want to rub anything in. But as you guys know, I've been suffering from sciatica for years. I remember feeling the feeling right after I had Charlie. I started to do a little digging, and one of the notes said, Magnesium can help. I started taking magnesium at night. You guys, I'm cured. Not entirely. Getting up from the makeup chair this morning hurt a little bit, but compared to where I was, I But I'm having no issues.

Now, when we go back to the conversation of whose condition was worse, the fact that yours was easily treatable with a vitamin, we are not the same.

We don't know that yours isn't.

I do have sciatica, and over winter break, I actually got locked in a sciatica position. I could not get up off a chair. It was actually really scary. I thought I was going to call an ambulance. I know what sciatica is like, and I know what bad sciatica is like. And let me tell you, she doesn't have a thing on coxedemia.

That's not what the commenter said.

I think it is.

No, they said... Well, The commenter- It can be really painful. But I just wanted to share, if you're suffering from what I had been describing all this time, a pinched nerve in the cheek, running down the leg, couldn't put your shoes on, magnesium.

The commenters also said they didn't hear a difference in my laugh, and they're wrong.

That's hurtful.

I know. And yesterday- They're out to get us. Last night before bed, I don't know what compelled me. Oh, because it snowed yesterday, and it reminded me of something. Every time and then, I realized there's something about me that Ben doesn't know, a little tidbit from childhood, and I share it with him. And last night, I realized there's this thing that I I had to call Margot. I feel like you don't even know about it either. It snowed yesterday, and it reminded me of this thing me and Margot used to do when we were kids, and I was telling Ben about it, and I was wheezing so hard. I had the craziest laugh. How anybody could say my laugh isn't different?

They don't know Terni. They haven't been here long enough. It's giving deaf.

You obviously don't know me.

What did you use to do when it snowed?

So, growing up, me and Margot shared a room. You and Olivia had your own rooms and me and Margot. So me and Margot definitely have our own history. Our own history, excuse me.

You do.

You And like many kids our age, we were obsessed with snow days. We used to literally beg for them. Actually, when I was telling you about the story last night, I was so embarrassed. I couldn't even get it out. Then I had to call Margot because it's about this song that we made up, and she was singing it. We were actually crying on the phone. Okay. So Margot and I, you would see on the news, there was a lot of anticipation. It might snow tomorrow. Yeah. We wouldn't know if school was canceled yet. We were going to wake up and find out. We would just try and put out-Manifest. Yeah, put out positive energy. We thought that if we made up this song and we sang it and did this special dance, that it would in turn create a snow day. Now, obviously, that as a concept isn't embarrassing or weird, but when I tell you what the song was, you will die. Do you know what I'm talking about? No, you have no idea what this is. Sing it. I actually can't sing it without turning purple.

Jackie, I was- Honestly, I'll look away, Maybe close your eyes.

I need to give you a little bit of a background because you're going to be like, why does it sound like that? You're not going to get the song the first time you hear it, okay?

Okay, it's a couple of listens before it's taken.

After the second and third time, you're going to be like, okay.

It's a mop. I don't know.

It was prolific of us because we were super young. We were basically trying to channel the weather gods in a tribal-like sense. When you hear this song, it's very African rain dance. I don't know where we picked this up. Maybe we copied it from a movie or a TV show, but I'm pretty sure it's original. No. It's not English, it's just sounds. I actually am so embarrassed. Margot is going to kill me. I called Margot, she thought someone died. I was laughing so hard. I was crying. Okay, so it goes like this, and I need you to actually look away.

I'm looking away. I'm going to drink my... Actually, I won't drink my coffee. I could choke. Sorry.

And imagine me and Margot, we put all of our pillows in a circle, and we would do this dance where we would go, right arm, left arm, right arm, left. I'm very tribal, very like... I don't know exactly what we were, very Aztec, almost. I'm not sure. I'm sure this is offensive, but we were literally six years old. And I don't know what reminded me, but I haven't thought of it in so long. And I was telling Ben this story about I actually was crying. It was so embarrassing. Oh my God. I couldn't remember the actual sounds we were making, so I had to call Margot when she was-Did she fill in the blanks?

Of course. And I think they're Oh my God.

I think that of all the things she thought she was going to pick up the phone and hear this was literally... I could have given her a million guesses. She was never going to guess this. It had been completely erased from my mind. But it was a thing we did for years. Let me tell you, it never worked. We would wake up the next morning.

Yeah, I was going to say, what's the success rate? Maybe once.

And we were like, it worked. Oh my God. I was laughing so hard. Ben was like, Are you okay? I was like, no.

That is so funny. I love how our sister Margot was just like, classic cool New York City influencer. And we will humble her on this show in her life, reminding her that she's just your kid's sister.

She's just a member of a tribe.

She's just someone's little sister.

No, and it was such a little sister behavior.

It was dancing around with her big sister, with her musical big sister, because you know it was your idea. Because you know that's not a Margot initiated game.

A thousand %. Oh my God.

She's such a good little sister because we all could see you doing it. Of course.

No, no. And she went along with it. I remember convincing her that it had powers. And she was like, okay. She had nothing to lose. I'm sad. And if she woke up the next day and there wasn't a snow day. She would have been like, well, maybe if I did the dance, there would have been.

Maybe if I danced harder, if I sing louder.

Margot is just like, dancing for her life. Oh, God, I actually can't breathe. We were such freaks. We did a lot of weird... We did the classic as kids making up dances. We were really into gymnastics.

But we were those kids.

Let's not forget our favorite game, She.

Popular and geek.

Nobody wanted to be cast as the geek. Let me tell you, it was always me or Margot. Yeah. We would basically just mimic the movies, Me and Girls. Some of us would pretend to be cheerleaders and others-We were actresses. And the other one would hold a book.

It's It's so crazy that we've gone on to do great things.

It was definitely touching. No, I'm crying. Serious freaks. Oh my God. Histerical. That's sibling. You can never explain it. When you guys are listening to this, you probably think it sounds so weird.

But then I see these memes of people. It's a video and someone will be like, me and my cousin doing a dance so that we could stay up later. I'm like, oh my God, we all had the same childhood. I actually think a lot of people relate. A lot of people were making up dances and doing shit like this.

I think making up dances was by far the most normal thing we did. It was obviously very political because we grew up in a family that really respected the order of birth. Olivia took that role really seriously. We still do. We still do. But Olivia, at the time, was definitely on a little bit of a power trip. Any activity that was unsupervised, Olivia was in charge, and she knew it, and she wielded it like a knife. She was actually not a just ruler at all.

She was always the coach. She was always the lead choreographer. Did she even have the talent to be those things? It wasn't a meritocracy.

No, but she had a computer in her bedroom. When we needed music and stuff like that, she provided the equipment. In addition to being the eldest and her room, actually, your room was the biggest, but she had power, and she knew it, and she ran with it. I'd be like, if I said I wasn't harboring a little bit of resentment. Yeah. Oh, but at any time we would cook or bake, which was not a lot, but she was always head chef.

Well, that's an issue that you would have because you were always cooking with her, watching the Food Network.

So true. It's amazing. I never cooked. I turned out unable to cook a single thing.

No, actually tried.

I spent my childhood cooking. Can you believe that?

I spent my childhood not.

I actually spent my childhood watching Law and Order.

And Food Network, you cannot understate the importance of that network in your lives.

You know it's so funny? Because when we think about, and I read about this in my book a lot, I feel like so much of who I am, my personality and the fact that we for a living, is the fact that we watched a lot of television growing up, and I was one of the only girls that I knew in high school who had a TV in my bedroom. Now we're all screen phobic, and we're like, screen, screen, screen. Meanwhile, I would not be who I am if it weren't for the television of yours.

I agree. It's definitely an interesting thing, and I watch so much TV and look at me, and now I choose not to.

You're literally a success.

But I think there's a lot of different things happening. This is how I... First of all, when your kids are two, that's not what we were. We weren't two watching TV. No, but we were young.

We were 10.

Yeah. But still, it's like we were developed. More so than a toddler. Yeah, of course. More so than a baby.

Are you saying you think you'll ease up on screens when your kids are eight?

Yes, but then my other issue is that TVs have changed because now they're these huge, big, colorful things. The TV in your room, Claudia, was the size a computer monitor, a laptop, and you were so far away. You weren't zoned in on it the way that people sit in front of a huge screen these days.

No, also, as kids, we used to get in trouble for sitting too close to the TV. We used to have to back up.

Yeah, and the quality just wasn't what it is now, the colors, which is nice when you're watching Wicked. I'm just pointing it out. No, I think about that all the time. Even Gary Janetti, he's such a success because he was addicted to television.

Yes, that's a theme. When we read Keke Palmer's book, it was like, she literally saw her life throughout television. So many successful people, especially in entertainment, were shaped by modern entertainment.

Yeah, but a lot of people probably are also couch potatoes.

Yeah, for every Kiki Palmer, there's a lot of couch potatoes.

For every Gary, there's a Larry.

Yeah, it's so true.

I love that. I don't know. It's all in flux, turntalume.

We actually have quite a bit to get into today because we have remaining stories. Actually, just for a regular Tuesday, the story is a very good, Sun Foster and Hugh Jackman. But there are a couple of things that we need to- A couple of odds and heads from the Gloves.

And then a couple of other things we need to discuss. And then dear toaster, as you said. So I guess we could just without further ado, rip off the bandaid. Yeah. Get into the Fast Five stories that you do need to know.

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I have a question for you. It's probably hard because you're pregnant and this is not what you're thinking about. Who cares about me? No, do you have any resolutions that you're trying to do? Are you trying new year, new year?

I am not. I meant to talk about that on yesterday's episode, but it got lost in the flush. I think the last couple of years, I've had resolutions that I really stuck to that I'm really proud of. Two years ago, I was like, it's the year of yes. I'm going to say yes to life and go to things and take trips and go to the edge of a cliff. Last Last year, I wanted to quit my vape, and I did. I thought, I actually had one thought this year that I'm not going to do, but I saw a TikTok that was really compelling. This girl was like, she was in her car and she was talking about how much she loves the toast. But she was like, My kid is just repeating so much stuff, and I can't listen to the toast in the car anymore because the swirleys love to drop a big F bomb. And I was like, the video really spoke to me. I was like, Shit, that fucking sucks. For you and for me.

It does stink us because eventually, she misses enough episodes. I know. She might not feel caught up. She might drop off.

It crossed my mind to maybe work on my cussing. While this is a show for the swirleys, it's also a comedy show. I just feel like it's funny I don't know. I struggle because-What about extraneous cussing?

Because sometimes it's not necessary. Sometimes it is.

Yeah, but that's just a lot of mental gymnastics to do when I'm trying to be myself and be funny and get to work, get to the ads, get to your twosters.

I know, but you're also... You are probably going to want to tone it down when you have a child. So it's better to start now.Not that I'm perfect.

Another thing I was thinking about because there's something like an AI program that you can run your audio through that bleep out any curse. It's like, what if every day we just release two episodes, clean and explicit?

But then what about the charts? Because then we're splitting our listenership. We live for seeing ourselves high on the charts. I just want to say this is something Apple should offer.

Just between you and I. You should be able to choose the episode and be like, We'd like to hear this clean or explicit, and they bleep out the... Okay, free idea. Somebody should do that.

Yeah, I think that's a really good idea.

You guys have suggestions? Sound off in the comments. It's something I've been thinking about. I just don't know if I'm really capable of stopping cursing. It's who I am.

It was my resolution. Maybe even the last two years, it's always something that's been top of mind. I definitely decreased usage, but not eradicated completely. But now, if it's potentially affecting our business, we have to talk about that. Especially, it's like we all grow together. I feel like we grow in tandem with our sisters of the Toosters. If we work in tandem. If they feel like they can't listen to us in this new stage of their lives, that's not good.

I know.

Something to think about. Agreed. Definitely food for thought. I have a lot of resolutions.

Okay, let's hear them.

I'm really trying. I'm going so hard on New Year, New Me in in a real way. First of all, drinking more water, drinking water in the morning before I have my coffee. I need I need to stop drinking my coffee right when I'm rubbing my eyes. I need to drink water first. So so far that's going well, but then I have to pee so bad during the toast. It's not a good thing. I know. Of course, eating healthier. Right now, I'm doing sacara, so that covers me for the week, but then going forward, more protein, more healthy. I do okay with that. I do. You do. Then also being neater, more purging of things in my house. I love that. More cleaning, more scrubbing, cleaner spaces.

I'm all for decluttering.

More throwing everything in the garbage all the time. More sweeper. Sweeping. More sweeping. It's true. Swyper no swyping. I started following more creators, our comfort creators, who also do a lot of cleaning. I'm watching them do their laundry.

Organized.

Yeah, they're like, wiping down their counters. I'm buying their cleaning products. More of that, more productivity.

That's a resolution I can get behind.

I would also love to... This today is actually great because this is locking an extra hour and a half in my day by starting so early. I would love to unlock my mornings with more productivity.

Yeah, well, you could be one of those moms that wakes up at 5:00 AM and goes to the gym before her kids get up.

The thing is I couldn't. But maybe getting dinner in a crock pot before the toast, that way in the time I'm usually cooking, I could be doing something else.

I like that. Time management.

Time management, stuff like that. Let's beg. Let's get to the story, shall we? Yes. First up, the biggest news for us of the day, Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster have stepped out hand in hand for a dinner date in LA with People magazine. It's important to note that everything about this is scheduled, staged, coordinated with People magazine. They've made the decision. They are coming out publicly. They should have gone to the Golden Globes together, but I won't say anything. They are ready to take on the world.

They could not have gone to the Golden Globes because she is previewing a new play, Once Upon a Mattress. It had two big opening nights, and he was there both nights. There was a lot of whispers like, Oh, what is he doing there? He must be. Now This picture just confirms what we all knew.

What is he doing there? I didn't even know he was at her play. I should have known that.

The fact that they're older and more mature makes me think that... And while this is definitely coordinated in a planted photo, which makes me cringe, it does give me joy that it's a well thought out launch. They are really serious about each other because they both left their marriages. If they're not serious, they wouldn't have shared. And if they didn't think this relationship was going anywhere, they were going to stay in private until they figured it out. The fact that they're choosing to share this because it's clearly a staged photo makes me think that the relationship is in a really healthy place.

Yes, and I feel like maybe the relationship got out before they were ready, but everything that they've done, he left his wife a few years ago. She left her husband maybe six months ago, and now they're coming forward with their relationship. So it's been months of each of them being technically single.

It's seemingly kosher.

No, it is kosher. And if we didn't know that they had been dating this whole time, they would have stepped out today and we'd be like, Oh, how I think they are just really trying to do everything by the book, and they are like, What else can they be doing? It's not their fault that they fell in love. They're doing everything right. Instead of being caught out pictures of them, they're putting out pictures to the fans to you and I, and they're really trying to be by the book. I love that.

To be clear, while one could poke holes in their timeline, people are not. The general reception to this is overwhelmingly positive. I'm sure there's people being like, Well, she was spotted here wishing her anniversary. Whatever.

I No, I think they definitely fell in love while one or both of them were married.

Yeah, well, they did the Music Man together, and that was like- But there's a difference between accidentally falling in love, acting on it.

Like, these things. And I think that as best as they could handle it, There's not a right way to go about it. It's unfortunate. It's an unfortunate thing that happens. And unless it's true love, stay where you're at, okay?

And I don't want to get ahead of myself, but it appears as though it's true love.

So that's the thing. It's true love. And who's not getting behind true love?

Now, what are your thoughts on being in a committed relationship with somebody who's in the exact same field as you? It's a field that's quite competitive. Theater.

You mean... But also, not theater. It feels less risky than Hollywood.

Well, yes, theater is everyone's a little bit more normal and down to Earth.

You can live a quiet life. You do your shows, you go home. It's very routine.

Yeah. I meant more theater and at their level.

So I think it just depends on the person. Even though they both straddle both.

It just feels like they're both doing more plays now.

Oftentimes, two big stars can't be together. There's a million things, competitiveness. But these two, as much as we don't know them the way that they seem, grounded people. Yeah.

But do you think it's a little too close for comfort ever?

Yeah, I think it would be for most people. But some people feed off of that energy, and they're collaborative, and there's plenty of successful relationships in In the biz, a handful of them, not a lot, but some.

Oh, you know what? That just reminded me of a great Nikki Glazer joke when she was talking to Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban, and she was just like, I love that you don't stop playing guitar, so Nicole needs to leave the house as much as possible and do 85 films a year. So funny. We also like, Thank you for doing a long bit on Nicole and Keith, so we got to watch them interact for 15 seconds, and I just fucking love them.

Yeah, same.

I don't know who I like more in the relationship. That's how you know it's a good couple. I actually think I might like Keith Urban more, but that's just because of tastes.

Also, you know what's funny? I feel like a few months ago, I said on the show that Nicole Kidman needs to do something other than all the roles she's been playing. And so she did Baby Girl, and I'm not going to see it. I'm like, I miss Nicole Kidman.

Yeah, wait. She definitely decided. She made a choice, I don't know when, to shift a little bit. She was doing a lot of the same. She probably filmed Perfect Couple and had the same feeling we all had, which was like, I need to get out of my box, and so did something else.

But now, I don't know if she feels this way, but I'm like, okay, I'm ready for more Nicole Goodman.

Yeah, I have not seen Baby Girl, although I ended up on Baby Girl Talk, where different films, the more controversial ones from the film, people were filming it in theaters. I think I saw what I needed to saw. I saw her drinking the milk. I don't know. I actually don't know anything. Would you like for me to tell you? Because it's not what it sounds like. It's worse.

I don't know, but can I tell you the funniest thing? What? Dana, over winter break, she went to the movies with her in-laws and saw a baby girl. Oh my God.

Oh my God, that's terrible. I saw this hilarious TikTok of a girl who, over the holidays, went to the movies with her parents, and they're walking out and she's filming her dad, and he's just like this... I don't know if they were from New York.

What did they see?

Baby girl. He was giving like, Old Brooklyn. He was like, These people are fucking disgusting. Because the premise of the movie is that Nicole Kidman starts an affair with this young guy at work. I thought it was a May, December type of movie, but it's really not about that. It's like the kid in the film is freaky, and he makes Nicole do freaky stuff.

It's like, dom.

He's missive, so he makes her pretend to be a cat, and she drinks milk from a bowl, and then has to stand in the corner. She's looking at the wall like she's time out. It was seriously, it was disturbing, and I will not be seeing it. But I agree, it points to a seismic shift in Nicole Kidman.

You don't want to go see it with your in-laws?

No. That's really crazy of Dana. She's actually crazy.

She had no idea.

Well, that's unfortunate beyond.

Yeah, Yeah, classic Dana. Speaking of, we recorded The Redheads yesterday. The Residence? The Redheads we recorded yesterday. The book was actually... I think everyone really liked the book, and we're about to ruin it for you. Oh, good. Seriously, seriously ruined. Love that. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

If we must move past these two, then yeah, sure.

I know. We'll always find a way to bring it back to them. We will keep tabs on them throughout the years that they will spend together. Yeah. Many, many years. Yeah. All Our next story is a couple Golden Globes odds and ends. Okay. First up is the Demi Moore, Kylie Jenner snubbing.

Yeah.

This video is going viral of Demi going up to the completely unknown table. That's Timothée's table with Kylie and L Fanning. Who's the other girl?

I don't know her, but she's so cute and pretty. Gargi. Yeah.

She's talking to the two girls, completely ignoring Kylie. Kylie is really excited for her and then realizes she's being ignored and turns around. Yeah.

She's smiling it to me and she's trying to get her attention and interjecting the conversation. Then me goes, You two look so beautiful.

That's when Kylie turns around. I saw this video going around so many times and I was like, People, things get taken out of context. Stop. She didn't snub her. Then I watched it really closely, and I watched Kylie, and you can see Kylie felt snubbed. I know that Demi's daughter has also taken to social media to clarify that she did not snub her, but like...

Demi had just one. She was really overwhelmed. She doesn't have anything against Kylie. She probably didn't even notice this girl behind her. She knows El Fanning really well, so that's where she was focusing. I don't think it was an intentional snub, and I had the same exact reaction. When people were making this video go around, I'm like, Everybody just wants to bring Kylie down. Classic Kardashian haters. Then I watched it in full. I was like, Damn. Could I just say we've all been there where you're trying to interject in a conversation, literally, the people are not fucking letting you in. So I had a lot of sympathy.

She's just sitting there smiling. At those events, she's really like, Timothée's plus one. I feel like she really doesn't want to detract interact. And so whether or not, to me, knew that Kylie was next to her, or it's just like, Timothy's girlfriend. It was a snub. Whether it was intentional or not, I couldn't say I don't know her. But you could see Kylie felt snubbed, and she turns around and picks up her camera. Anyone who hurts Kylie hurts me.

I know, and things like this don't really happen to the Kardashians because the main girls, Kim, Chloe, and Chris, they know everyone. They are movers and shakers, and they could go to the Grammys, they could go to the Oscars, and they would know everyone. It's how the Met Gala became Kardashian fest. They are very popular and well-liked amongst celebrities in all different industries, whether it's music or film. But Kylie definitely keeps to herself and going to the Golden Globes now for the second year in a row. It's always a step outside her comfort zone. She very much operates in the influencery type of space. So I felt really bad for her. We're just not used to seeing the Kardashians in a position like this because every room they enter, they are always the most well-known, and even if not well-known, popular. They're social people, and they know everyone. They invite everyone to their holiday party. She has her hand in everything.

Chris has her own... Each one of them has so many friends that together, the whole family is friends with the whole industry.

Yeah, except But Kylie, she's really to herself.

Yeah. I don't know if there was malicious intent, I don't like Kylie Jenner, but it was-Let me tell you something.

To me, Maure is almost 60 years old. She's not starting drama with Kylie Jenner. She was She had just one. It was this huge moment for her. She ran into somebody she knew. I think that it was completely unintentional. Having said that, painful to watch.

Yeah. Her daughter, Demi's daughter, said, Hi at everyone, but really press, nipping this straight in the bud. We spent New Year with El, so connecting with her after a win was very organic thing to do. This angel was in total shock and delight and moving throughout a warm room of well-wishers. There was not a snub of any sort had she seen Jay wanting to congratulate her, she would have fully given her the time and space. Literally, just give it all a break.

Oh, I'm so sorry not to make everything about me, but I do feel like a personal reference would be helpful here. I actually met Demi more, somewhat recently. She was asking me one million questions about like, comedy and podcasting. She was unbelievably nice. It was very disarming. I'm sorry, I totally forgot that. Where did you meet her? I don't know her, at a birthday party.

Turdaloo.

I remember me and Ben were dazzled by her. I wouldn't say Before. Her big box office success predates my time a little bit. So I'm not super familiar. I never saw... What is she in? Kill Bill? What's the thing that...

Like GI Jane?

Yeah, you know the name. So I really wasn't familiar, and I wasn't expecting to be dazzled beyond. She had literally no idea what I did for a living. She was so curious, genuinely. She was like, And as a woman, that's amazing. She was so fucking nice, and she has this little dog that weighs half a pound that she brings everywhere with her. I forgot. She's unbelievably nice to a nobody like me. I'm telling you, she didn't snub Kylie. Oh my God, not me for getting my personal reference.

Do you think she just didn't know that was Kylie next to her and just thought it was a rando?

I think she didn't even care to turn around. It couldn't have been anyone. She was so excited about her win, and it's this big night for her, and she ran into this girl that she loves. I just think of all the things happening in front of her, it was too much to even look to the left. Okay. That's what I think. You know what? I'm trusting my fave. Okay.

Love that. Yeah. Also from the Golden Globes, little part 2, is that Kate Beckinsale and Matt Rife were spotted kissing at Netflix's Golden Globes bash. Yes, they were.

I saw that before I went to bed last night. I was disturbed.

You were disturbed.

Let me say something. I don't like Matt Rife, and not for the reasons that everybody does, He made a joke about people on the spectrum and people found it offensive. A joke is a joke. I actually don't care. I just find him annoying, his face. I also don't understand how he rose to fame so quickly. None of it It makes sense to me. I'm not championing him, if you know what I mean. Also, he notoriously was not very nice to Book Scofield, former toast guest, so I stand with my girl, Book. I'm not a champion of his. I don't like to see him winning, honestly.

That's it. That's a win for him. They also had dated in the past, and then when she started dating Pete Davidson, he told Pete to be careful. There's weird history, and Jackie, Book Scofield is involved in some capacity.

Before, he really, really blew up. I think she was dating him, and he literally pretended like he didn't know who she was. Something really crazy. She's talked about it on a bunch of podcasts. I can't remember if she talked about it on The Toast, but I feel like I would remember, so no. It's a weird story. He gives me really bad vibes.

Yeah, people really love him, though. Like his fans.

Okay, well, that's good.

Yeah, so I just feel like it's like you either are one of his fans or you really dislike him, or to me, like apathetic.

Yeah.

No thoughts.

Yeah. I happen to really like Kate Beckinsdale.

You've met her, too.

I have met her, too, and she's unbelievably cool. We were at a restaurant. Sorry, I have to tell the story. She was driving home, and we were at Craig's, so there's paparazzi outside, and she was like, Do you want to lift home? I was like, Duh. Because my hotel was right by her house, and she was like, Okay. I was like, Oh, man, I'm literally going to be walking out of Craig's with Kate Beckinsdale. The paparazzi is going to go nuts. But she's came back and said, she literally had a special exit with an umbrella in the back and the car. We drove right past paparazzi, nobody even saw us. I was like, Oh, this is great. Thanks. Thanks for the ride.

Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. What number? Three. Number three. Confirmation that Zendaya and Tom Holland are engaged. Details are merging about the betrothal. They are engaged. A family source confirmed to people. Tmz was the first to report the news. According to the outlet, he proposed at one of Zendaya's family homes over the holidays. A source told people that everyone close to them knew an engagement was happening, just not when. The source said that he had been keen to propose to Zendaya for a while. They said he's always been crazy about her. He always knew she was the one. They have something very special.

They give Page and Craig, the guy just being so obsessed with the girl. It's up to the girl when the timeline. I think he would have married her years ago. I thought of these two as in a permanent domestic partnership, very curt and Goldie and Kirt.

Yeah, I wasn't on a ring watch for them. Me neither. I just felt like... But I guess that's what happens. You either get married or you break up, or sometimes you just stay as you are. But most of the time, it goes one way or the other. This is really exciting news that we weren't even waiting for. We didn't even have on our list. I feel like all these people do predictions for the year. This should have been a prediction.

But yeah, they're just so settled and everybody's so used to them, and they're so in love, and they're so private that I don't even think about their timeline at But then it makes you think about Kylie and Timothy, right?

Yeah. Because they're together two years now.

Kylie's also never been married.

She is a relationship girl, and they will either... Maybe they wouldn't get married just because there's so much at not steak, but have children together. Yeah, maybe. She wants more kids. If this is her man, that's what they're going to do.

That's really crazy.

I know, but it feels like really... I wouldn't even say all this before Zindaya and Tom, because I just feel like the two that could be private and date forever. We'll literally never see them on a red carpet together. No reporter's ever allowed to ask questions about the other.

Yeah, I feel like if they have a big wedding, which I don't even think that they will, we'll never even see a photo of it. Not even a Vogue exclusive.

Yeah.

They're too big for that. I saw a funny tweet that was like, because she's such a fashion girly, can you imagine the phone calls her and La Roche must be getting now that everyone knows she's engaged? I know she has her deals, so Louis Vuitton, right? But she could have any designer in the entire world begging at her to make a wedding dress. Who would she go with? Even though I feel like they're literally courthouse, like, Cari wearing her, and the bride wore a dress by no one.

No, I feel like they'll have a wedding. It's not going to be a huge... Probably overseas.

Yeah. Well, the way that- Something small. Tmz is reporting that they got engaged was also really sweet, intimate family. It was at Zendaya's family home, over the holidays, really intimate, no drama, no big fireworks. They're such the real deal.

Yeah.

I know they give us nothing, and I respect that entirely. There's literally that one picture of them that she's taking a mirror photo of him and her in his Spider-Man costume. They use that for every press article because there's not a single other photo of them. I would love to just see something. They give us nothing.

I feel like she probably thinks she's not going to do the big wedding because they're so private, whatever. But you do get carried away when you're-It's easy to get caught up. She's just a girl. I don't think that means she's going to have a 300-person crazy wedding. But you're getting married, so you want a wedding dress. Of course, you want the best, nicest dress made by Christian Dior himself. Right.

Even if it's a casual dress.

Yeah, even if it's for a beachside wedding.

I could see them doing that, by the way.

Then you get the dress, and then you need the wedding to accompany the dress.

Well, that's the premise of sex in the city. Once you get the venue, and what does she say to be like, You play poker, right? The dress up the Annie. Yeah, it's easy to get carried away.

But I just want to say that That's real. Because then you have this insane dress, and you're like, more people need to see it. It needs to be in this place.

She's completely valid for that. The only mistake she made, and it was literally her fatal flaw nail in her coffin, was she so did not read the man. She didn't know the guy she was marrying at all. Because if you did, you would know that this would really be a turn off to him. And he was visibly getting more distant, more angry, and she just ignored it. I have a fairy dress. Like, grow up.

Big dope energy.

Dandeo would never do that. She knows Tom. No.

By the way, Tom Holland would take the bigger the better more. Would do anything to make her happy. Whatever wedding you want.

Right. He would do anything. That's the difference. Big was a piece of shit who if Carrie wanted something and it made her so happy, he didn't give a fuck. That didn't move the needle for him at all.

No. Literally the day that he proposed her, she should have taken him down to the courthouse and married him because she should have known that his mind could change.

With that gun behind his back.

No, it's like, Oh, you're feeling like marriage today? Let's do it today. It's so true. Because tomorrow, who knows?

It's so true. That was her fatal flaw. Nobody could get mad at her, of course. Then the library, it was so New York, and she's so fabulous. It was her first wedding. No matter how old you are, it's always exciting. But her problem was she had no idea who she was marrying, or she seriously didn't care.

She also lost the plot.

Completely.

Next story, number 4. Are you ready? Mm-hmm. Very exciting news for everyone because Shark Tanks Kevin O'Leary says that he's nearing a deal to buy TikTok.

Okay, I saw this.

Shark Tanks Kevin O'Leary has plans to purchase TikTok during an appearance on the story with Martha McCullum On Monday, he expressed interest in acquiring ownership of the social media platform before it faces a ban in the US on January 19th. So is TikTok going away on January 19th if nothing happens?

Okay, I feel like everybody's being really dramatic because what's not being said about January 19th, And President Trump has said, he'll help. He doesn't want TikTok out. He's going to figure it out. So everybody's being really dramatic, being like, follow me on Instagram. You're never going to see me again. But also, it's not going No way. Let's say, nobody can save it, right? Everything happens on January 19th. All that means is that it's not going to be available in the app store anymore. So if you already have it downloaded, the app will still work. It can't grow. But if you have it, you can keep posting on it and engaging with it.

That's interesting.

Yeah.

Are you sure?

No, but that's what I heard.

That's the vibe. Well, I feel like the sale of TikTok has literally been in the conversation since 2020, and that there's serious privacy issues with the app, and it needs to to be under new ownership where those things would be taken care of. I just want to say I nominate Kevin O'Leary. If Kevin O'Leary buys TikTok, I will join. How about that?

By the way, because I just wanted to backcheck myself. Okay. So Trump has earned the Supreme Court to postpone the impending ban, which is set to take effect on January 19th. You become President when? On the 20th.

January 20th, yeah.

Maybe we'll have one day without the talk.

That would be crazy. Oh my God. It'll be like those Lisa Frank memes. The dolphins are jumping, the rainbows are out.

Yeah. It'll be one day. It'll be one day. It'll be one day. Productivity and mental health through the roof. So the app is going to be removed.

The GDP goes up.

The app is going to be removed from the app store. But that's it. The app itself.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay. Well, then I guess it would be like uno reverse when Trump comes in.

And the reason why TikTok is upset because the app will now become unavailable to half the country that doesn't already use the app. So if you already use it, you should just download it just in case.

Not without the sale.

And ending the support service, a quote, this is TikTok statement, will cripple the platform in the US and make it unusable. I don't know if that's true, But if it can't grow, I could see it dying off.

But it's like, if you get a new phone, if you get a new phone. Yes. So eventually it would die off. Interesting. Well, I think TikTok needs new ownership, and I think Kevin O'Leary would be amazing. Same. What do you think about Kevin?

I'm a big Kevin fan. Having said that, I didn't realize he was liquid like that. I know he's got a couple billion, but how I see things, doesn't TikTok cost billions. More than that? Yeah.

Well, he would have partners and putting together a team, but he also would need the support of Trump to get it through and be able to be the one.

Well, I feel like Kevin O'Leary has been political recently. I've seen him on the news a lot. I feel like he's trying to start a new part of his career, a little bit more serious. And this is a good step. I think he wants to get in with the admin.

With the admin? Oh, the administration.

Yeah.

Oh, interesting.

And I think this is a step in the right direction. And I'm sure he has a lot of wealthy friends who would be down. It's a good investment. Tiktok is a very successful business. So if you can get the money to buy it, you should. So I'm sure he has a couple of billionaires who are more quiet, silent angel investors.

Yeah, because people would want to buy it.

I mean, if I had the money, I think it's pretty sound investment. People love it. It's like you can't stop the growth.

Yeah. Oh, so like, countdown to January 19th, it will be interesting. I didn't realize People have been talking about it, but I checked out because I'm not on the app. People literally have been saying this for five years. I know. It's a boy who cried Wolf. They've literally been saying it's banned. It might still be boy who cried Wolf. It did not spend one day being banned, so I've moved on with my life. Interesting.

We We just have another checkpoint coming up that we have to get past. Who knows what's going to happen January 19th?

Right. Okay. I have a lot of little countdown. It's also Molly May's documentary, January 17th. Megan Markle's show this week.

We also working on a personal project, January 28th. I don't know if you know about that.

I am.

Yeah, we're working on a personal project. You obviously don't look at the timeline that was sent to you yesterday.

We had a time to schedule. Oh, yes. Oh, sorry. I didn't realize that I didn't... It's not a hard day, don't you find?

It's in flux. No, I'm actually counting on it being a hard launch.

I need to find Megan's date because I just keep alluding to it.

I actually went on Netflix last night to see if I could watch it, and it wasn't there.

It's this week. Hold on. I'm getting to the end of the trailer.

I love Megan. I watched the Avichi documentary on Netflix. I think you would like it.

I watched Anna Vici documentary in the past before, and I really liked it. January 15th. Okay, longer than I thought for Megan.

This one is narrated by Vich, and they have amazing footage. Eventually, obviously, at some point it stops being narrated by him. But Ben is such a big Avichi and house music fan, so I thought it was a good pop culture thing that we could agree on, and I really enjoyed it. I learned quite a bit. Honestly, if anybody watches, tell me if you also walked away. One of my takeaways, which is I think the most relevant part, Chris Martin was a part of the problem. Not a part of the problem. That's an overstatement. But they're talking about these different phases of Avicci's life, and there's a huge phase where he's just genuinely unhappy making music that's not good and not from his soul. And he's just saying yes to everything because he's so in demand. He's on tour. It's classic Fame. Yeah. Distroy. And the person they bring in to talk about the time working with them, working with Avicci during that time is Chris Martin. And Chris Martin It's like, talking about how, oh, sky full of stars. It's amazing. It's amazing. But in the context of the documentary, it's the worst time in Avicci's life.

It's like he's putting out less than stellar music. And it's like Chris Martin is over here being like, it was so fabulous. And he was so busy. And it's like, well, actually, that was the worst time of Avicci's life. That was right before he crashed out, decided to stop doing live performances, took a ton of time off, and then came back much healthier. So I was like, Chris Martin, the Aukes? I don't know if he knew in the context of the timeline, he was going to be the face of the bad part. Yeah, but then also- But he was a really good doc.

The doc is saying he was making bad music because he was at a low point, but Skyful of Stars is one of the biggest songs ever.

Yeah, not bad music, but just not what... The documentary really shows... Obviously, he really started with house and EDM, but this He was a person who was so supremely talented at all music. He ended up being just as big of a producer for other people, very like Ryan Tedder, than he was as a DJ himself. And so he loved country music, and he loved bluegrass. He could have written anything. House was just how he fell into music when he was a teenager. And he realized as his career progressed, it wasn't even his passion so much, DJing and things like that. It was just making music, any type of music that he thought. He worked with Niall Rogers. He worked with Country Soul. And During the Chris Martin time, it was just like everybody wanted to work with him, so he would just say yes to everyone and bang out a song in a couple of hours. It wasn't meaningful. It wasn't from his soul.

Yeah.

He was really insecure about the fact that he didn't play any instruments super well. That was something he was actively working on.

Interesting. Maybe I will watch it, but I feel like the last time, the Vichy Doc came out, it was a really good one. It's so sad. I've been watching Aaron Rodgers, I was telling you. I watched two episodes so far.

Compelling?

That Aaraj. Yeah, he's an interesting guy.

Aaraj, I like that.

He's an interesting guy. The ayahuasca stuff is not really for me, but it's a necessary part of understanding him. So here we go. But going on a three-day ayahuasca trip- Here the fuck we go. It's just not my favorite stuff to watch. Understood. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

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So Ben and JLo have settled their divorce and no one is paying spousal support. So Ben and JLo, I think we already knew this, but I was shocked once again, did not have a prenup in this little trift of theirs. But they have settled their divorce totally amicably. In a nutshell, they each walk away with what they have individually acquired during the marriage, the money Ben earned from his various movie projects as his, and the same goes for Jalo, what she earned during their two-year marriage, and neither will pay spousal support to one another. What is most notable, though, is that Ben started his very successful production company, Artist's Equity, in 2022, while he was married to Jalo. And he will be keeping all of that, even though she technically-She could have. Yeah, but she didn't- But when you're both so individually successful, it's fine. Yeah, no, it's fine.

But- Did you really just want to get out of the marriage and put this chapter behind you?

Don't go- Right, but you would think that that would happen more often. And because it's so amicable, it's like, they must have had some unspoken prenup, and they really trusted each other. And no one hurt the other badly enough to want to hurt them back.

No, and this is nice to hear. I was just watching a TikTok video Apparently, Halle Berry has one of the worst track records for spousal support and settlements that she's had to pay. She's been in four relationships, three of them marriages, but the fourth, she has a child with the person, so she pays child support. And oh, my God, this video was just breaking my heart. I'm surprised she doesn't work more. She's literally... She gave it so much money in settlements to her ex-husband. What's the point in working if you have to give it all away? Devastating.

The more she works, the more she has to give.

My heart was breaking for her in this video. It was like an AI-generated video. Do you know Halle Berry's crazy divorce? I was like, No, I don't. Let's watch. And I agree. I'm shocked that this doesn't happen more within Hollywood, where marriage is this flimsy thing. Everybody has their own individual businesses, success. Yes, some people are way more wealthy than others, but with a marriage like this, a lot of people marry people who are of equal value. And so I'm surprised this doesn't happen more, especially if you just want to not drag it through the courts, not go through mediation. Sometimes those celebrities marry nobodies, I see Harley Berry, people who don't even have jobs. Then you're in trouble.

Yeah. No, I thought this was quite remarkable. It was mediated by Laura Wasser, who's the divorce attorney to the stars. Classic. However, it just seemed like she was also just spotted JLo going to Ben's house hours before this. Everything is really good. Why did they get married and why did they get divorced?

I don't know. This remains one of the weirdest sagas, how he was engaged to her, married Jennifer Garner, divorced Jennifer Garner, married JLo, divorced JLo.

Now they're all best friends.

Yeah, and all their kids seem to really get along, and they seem to have really good step-parent relationships. Even J Lobe, after being split from Ben, was spotted with some of Ben and Jen's kids, which is weird because you I've been a stepmom to them for that long. You could move on.

No, it is extremely quizling.

In a good way. This is nice utopic utopian.

We're just using a bunch of words. I don't even know if I feel like quizling is the right word. I feel like quizling is not.

No, I feel like quizling, you mean like confusing.

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Oh, no. You meant like puzzling.

Yeah.

Puzzling. Puzzling the source. Finding the right words these days is just not my strong suit.

I know, but at least you have an excuse. I really don't.

It's so true.

It's incredibly mystifying.

I love that. The whole situation. Are you on thesaurus. Com?

Yes, and I find it a bit unfathomable, if I'm being honest, how When be wildering this could all be. Be wildering.

That's a really good word here. Yeah, it's pretty incomprehensible. Jackie, I find it gefauling, if I'm being honest.

I'm really perplexed.

Our show is not over yet because it is Tuesday, which these days means Deer Our Weekly Advice segment, where you guys write in, and we do our best to help you out with what you're going through. I will say, at the end of last year, I felt the girlies were going through a lot, but it's also the time of year. I just want to say, based on the submissions that I read through this morning, the girlies are okay. They find themselves in funny Like, pickles. Like, a lot of these made me chuckle. None of the circumstances are dire. And for that, I think it's good.

We needed a break because Deer Toaster takes a lot on us too.

It got heavy.

We carry those loads.

So if you ever want to write in, it's deerteosters@gmail. Com, or head over to our website, the Toast scrolled down, there's a little submission box. Both ways are completely anonymous, and we'd love to help you out. Hey, Swirlies. The craziest thing happened to me, and am I okay, and am I in the wrong? I went out the night before Thanksgiving, as usual, blacked out. A guy who I've liked for a really long time and now is recently single, took me home from the bar by choice, like I was fine, and I was absolutely obliterated. I passed out in his bed, then threw up in my sleep, and obviously in his bed. He went nuts. He went off on me. He scream texted me. He ordered an Uber using my Apple wallet, sent me away by myself. I threw up in the Uber, and the next morning, he sent me a link to a remote that I threw up on and said, buy it. Am I crazy or is this man nuts? Sincerely a toaster who had just had the spins and low-key still has a crush.

Okay, so many things to say. First of all, even if he didn't act so horribly, we're writing him off because he's a bad person, not compassionate whatsoever. When this happens, it's really hard to come back from. So even if you still liked him and he handled it well, it's hard for him to see you. I remember, I heard some stories about people like, Oh, and they fell in love. Never fucking happens. It's true. But now let's talk about the fact, run for your life. This man is a horrible person. When you go to a and you bring home someone that is drunk, this is not out of the realm of possibility. It's true. People get sick.

Especially on Blackout Wednesday.

That is so crazy. I don't even want you to buy the remote, but then he's going to hate you forever. But you need to- He's such a dick. You need to hate him back. I hate him.

To be clear, you throwing up in his bed and on his shit is so annoying for him. I'm sympathetic. You came to my house and you shit everywhere. But I feel like this reminds me of the book, do you ever read The Hating Game?

No.

They're these two coworkers who hate each other, and they're on a company trip, and the girl gets really sick. The death story, and the guy who she hates is so sweet and compassionate, and that's why she falls in love with him, whatever. How people treat you when they're sick is a real testament to the type of people they are. Obviously, it's not always beautiful and comfortable when someone's sick, they're vomiting, sharding, whatever. The fact that this guy's initial reaction was so fucking nasty. This is not a compassionate person. This is not the type of person you want to be in a relationship with. The fact that you still like him, you need to work on that, like 1,000 %.

You do need to work on that. He doesn't like you. He didn't take care of you. Worse than just being like, and not being sweet about it, that he was mean about it. It's not a nice person. That's not your person. It's not your person. You need to actually forget him starting today.

You need to get mad.

He was mean. Yeah. Yet But don't even message him being mad because mad requires... You need to forget him.

Him ordering an Uber and making you pay for it.

And putting you in an Uber so drunk like that. And sick. It's just like, that's not a good guy.

Agreed. It's important to find the lesson, right?

I know. I feel like sometimes when you're so close to it and when you're in that stage of your life, you don't realize how serious these things are. You're just like, Oh, my God, I was drunk. It's a crazy That's the crazy thing that happened. But us being the grannies. It could have put you in danger. Look at this situation. That's a bad situation.

Agree, and that's a bad guy.

I agree.

Hey, Swirly's. Major crisis situation. My boyfriend that's about to move in with me told me he snooped through my iPad and found text messages between me and my girlfriends, where we were talking about guys I dated before and around the months that I first matched with my now boyfriend on Hinge. He asked me a ton of questions about it. It was seemingly fine. He said everything was fine, and it should be since we were not in a relationship at the time. But he then disclosed that he found old nudes of mine in my camera roll the next day. I'm seriously pissed now. If I wanted him to see those photos, I would have sent them to him. I feel like a serious boundary has been crossed while I was willing to forgive the text message snooping, but this seems to be on the verge of unforgivable. Am I overreacting? Help me. Ps, he did apologize and admit it was wrong to do any I promise that it would never happen again, but how can I trust him now?

That's really icky.

Yeah, and a man being mad at a girl for anything she did before they were in a relationship is actually psychotic behavior. I feel like it's a really big red flag. To other maybe problematic behavior down the line, controlling or freaky. I don't like this man.

I know.

Who snoops two days in a row? Chill.

Now you need to evaluate other stuff about him because as we always say, if this is the one wrong thing he did in a perfect person, everyone has a bad moment. It makes a mistake. But this is just pointing to controlling behavior, someone who's very not trusting. Maybe he has a history of someone who was cheating on him, and so now he looks through your phone because he's paranoid. But that's his problem, and he can't be in a healthy relationship if he's going to be acting that way, and he's not healthy. You really need to dig a little deeper.

I also feel like he was testing you a little bit. You had this seemingly innocuous conversation about old relationships. How long have they been dating? I don't know, enough that they're about to move in together. Right.

But it's like, how does she even have all those old text on her phone?

Ipad. The first conversation you had was about You didn't do anything wrong, right? I feel like he was testing you, and the fact that he got away with snooping, he then the next day took it to... He feels like he's advancing in his fucking craziness. I don't know. I don't know if I want to stick around to see what happens next.

Yeah, it does not bode well. Yeah. If you guys are moving in together, say you've been dating, he's looking back at text and pictures from over a year, over two years. What?

Yeah, agreed.

That's a crazy person.

It's crazy behavior.

What led him to do that? It's a craziness in his own mind.

I also feel like how you react to the snooping will set the tone for any future snooping. I would have a strong reaction to this.

I would stop the lease, rip it up. Agreed. I won't live with someone who doesn't trust me and violates my privacy.

This is a person who you're intimate with and obviously has seen you naked. It's still such an invasion of privacy to go through someone's nudes, even if it's someone you have sex with every day.

Rip up the lease.

Agreed. This third and final two toaster has actually made me chuckle. Okay.

Finally.

Hey, girls. Help. I just broke up with a boy I was dating for three months. As I'm breaking up with him, he bursts into tears saying, I'm ruining his life. I come to find out he has delayed his graduation to stay in town with me. He has a freaking engagement ring and put down a down payment on a wedding you that his whole family gets married at. He's obviously crazy, but I just feel really bad, and his family is now blowing up my phone.

What do I do? You run. You run so fast. You get on your running sneakers and you start running. The engagement, who gets engaged, married, three months. You didn't even like him, so he thought all of that was happening with him. Engagement worthy. When the energy you were giving him was impending breakup.

Run. Don't feel bad.

You need to also block him and his family. Feel glad that you just had a hunch and broke up with this guy, and it turned out he's a crazy person. So true.

Bullet dodge. Sometimes when you break up with somebody after a long time and their mom calls you, it's weird. It's not inappropriate, depending on the relationship. But seriously, family members of a guy who you dated for three months calling you, not only is he crazy, he actually comes from a crazy family.

He comes from crazy stock.

You need to actually thank your lucky stars because that could have been your family.

Yeah. You walked away from the relationship, start running.

Oh, my God. See, I told you, the girls are okay. They're okay.

Yeah, I don't know. The first two made me sad.

Deertoosters@gmail. Com. That's the email you can write in. I'm off to get my coxadenia healed, so maybe by the time you see me tomorrow, even though I think today is just a consultation, I might be a different person. You never know. I might get rid of this fucking pillow.

Wow, I got rid of mine. I just didn't bring it back after the break. Even though the pillow was never really helping me, it's just like something squishy to sit on. Always nice. Always nice. It wasn't curing anything.

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Bye. Hit him with the heart, turdy. One more try. One more try. Do something different. I'm doing something different. Me too. Oh, no. This feels so wrong. Definitely not. Worst ever. Bye. Bye.