Transcript of Season 8 (And Left No Crumbs): Monday, January 6th, 2025

Good morning, millennials. Welcome back

to the Toast. Happy 2025. Happy season 8. Welcome back. We are back after what felt like, for me, an extremely brief break, but for others apparently felt endless.

It did feel really long. It just feels so unfamiliar to be sitting here. Like, I forgot my routine. Yep. I forgot the way that things go, but welcome back, everyone.

Welcome to the New Year. Welcome to 2020 5. I literally like Welcome to season 8.

Locked myself out of the apartment. That. I locked myself out of the apartment. Like, that's how disoriented I was. I was, like, making a TikTok.

I forgot my jewelry. Fault. I'm not me and Ben are not struggling yet. I just forgot my jewelry because I'm so disoriented, like, getting back into a routine workflow.

No. I'm also really nervous because this studio has seen a lot of people in the last 3 weeks, a lot of different setups, and so I'm hoping everything is parched.

Just keep your eye on all your materials throughout the

my eye on my materials, for sure. And the last person in here was

Ben. Ben. You know what's so good, though? Like, while that's obviously horrible, nobody wants to ever be in a place that Ben has last been in, be it a studio, a bathroom, whatever. Just know, like, if things go wrong, which would be the worst thing ever, we have someone to blame.

Scapegoat. But

wait. You just reminded me

of something. It's not a scapegoat if he did that shit. Right? No.

That's just It's just, like, the offender. The offender. Wait. Fuck. You know, I'm really I'm having a lot of bad, like, memory stuff.

What were you saying 2 seconds ago?

Welcome to 2025. Welcome to season 8. New year, new us. Same swirlies. Maybe we could hit that hard in the new year.

Probably not. Probably not. At the end of last

year, I tried really, really hard to line up our summer I mean, our winter break with, like, the new year and my new studio. Obviously, I'm still in the same old studio, but I signed a lease. So it'll be a couple of weeks. I know everyone's signed

a lease.

Been waiting with bated breath to see what will she do. And don't worry. Turdy found a studio on her block. Like, I can't deal,

like, in my current state with, like, walking multiple blocks. Also, you can't deal with the current state and the congestion pricing. No.

I didn't know if I wanted to talk about the congestion tax today because it actually consumed You

don't wanna start the new year off on a negative note, but the governor decided to.

Yeah. And and I it consumed my whole evening, and Ben actually turned to me. He's like, you are really stressing out. I kept, like, finding out facts about this new congestion tax in New York.

I just wanna this is how it starts, Turdy, local office, mayor Turdy. I see it.

You know what? Like, I'm just now sort of waiting. Take back our city. I'm waiting for, like, the documentary, whatever it is. Like, I know there there is so much nefarious behavior going on at the MTA.

The MTA is giving and I was talking to Shannon about this this morning because she spends a lot of time in London where the congestion tax You know what it's giving? It's giving Tammany Hall. What's that? I'm only familiar with Tammany Hall.

I'm only familiar with Tammany Hall.

And I'm only familiar with Aaron.

But Tammany Hall is actually, like, a a big New York historical story of serious corruption Yeah. In the New York government. Ever Boss Tweed and Tammany? You never heard of them?

No. But I'm telling you

Have you ever heard of Boss Tweed?

Never in my life. I know. Bo deal.

Boss Tweed does not pass muster. That's what you need to know. Actually, I

have to go to the doctor today, and I will be I will be paying the congestion tax to go to the doctor.

Is that crazy? Wow. No. That's so crazy to go to the doctor.

Yeah. And, like, I keep I've sort of decided to take this on as my platform, and and I wanna be clear because mostly everyone agrees with me, and it's nice to, like, you know, not have a controversial take for once. It's giving bipartisan. And I just wanna say, like, I come from a place of privilege. Like, when I take this, like, tax today, whether it's peak hours, off peak hours, like, I will survive.

Like, I will like, I can take the hit financially. People who are commuting every single day, like, actually can't. It's making a significant debt in their, like, salary, and it's not being covered by their jobs, whether they're traveling imagine traveling into the city to be a cop, to be a police officer, to be a fucking nurse or a doctor in a hospital, to be a teacher, to teach these kids, and you have to pay to go to work. Like, what is this? I can't get into this.

For people who so for people who don't live in the city, though, I just wanna, like, explain what it is because I don't live in the city, and I you explained to me what it is last night. Because everyone's saying congestion tax, congestion tax. Like, what does that practically mean? How do you get charged? When do you get charged?

Oh, and what do you get charged?

So all across New York and they've been putting these cameras in for a couple of years, and everybody they got sued. They spent $500,000,000 putting in cameras all across sixtieth Street. And sixtieth Street kind of, like, delineates, like, uptown versus downtown, you know, roughly. And now anytime you drive through the city and you cross sixtieth Street, you will get charged the congestion tax. And the camera will take a little picture of your E ZPass.

And if you don't have 1, they'll send you a letter in the mail and charge you more because you don't have an E ZPass even though the E ZPass is owned by the Port Authority of New York. Yeah. I was looking into, like I'm, like, wow. They're hyping up E ZPass if I I wonder if it's a privately owned company. No.

It's not. Like, they make money from E ZPass, and then they make money when you don't use E ZPass. Right. So now

it's, like, it's law that you have to have E ZPass or else you get charged more. And, by the way, to

be clear, it's it is that way in most states. I people were DM ing me, like, in Atlanta, if you don't have a peach pass, I think it's that way in New Jersey, a sun I mean, in Florida, it's a sun pass. It's wrong. Like, it's it's classist to exclude people, first of all. And it's also it's ageist.

Do you know how hard it was for me to set up my EZ Pass? And I'm so technologically savvy.

It's also Jaxised. I don't have a sun pass.

Well, you don't leave, like, your neighborhood, but fair.

Right. But, like, so just because if I wanna travel, if I wanna go to Disney, I should pay more for the road.

When I think about, like, someone's grandmother trying to set up an E Z Pass, I wanna cry. The website was so it looked like Kindle, you know, like, black and white and so old school and slow. It was hard for me. And, by the way, I set it up wrong the first time.

So that that's just, like that's so wrong. Like, we talk about the tax all day, but to be charged more because you don't have the E ZPass, which you have to pay for, and which you might not need other than this 1 that's insane. But go on. So

anytime you cross sixtieth Street, depending on the time of day and what type of vehicle you're in, if you're a truck, you get charged more. Regular citizens get charged $9. Motorcycles do not get charged, which I think is really crazy. And it's all in an attempt to decrease congestion, which is a platform I'm all for. You know?

The city it's impossible to get around the city. There are so many, like, poor what are those people called who, like, build cities? Like, civil planners?

City planners.

Planners. Like, whoever built this will plan this city, like, is dumb. Like, it's really there's so many things that you drive around. It's enraging. Right?

Like, the double parked cars, the, like, the pedestrian That's

not the people who built this city. The people who built this city are actually very smart. It's the peep the this little pedestrian square is in the middle of Time Center. By the way, Claudia, like, you're at the point in your life, and it was my my point too when I was pregnant, that you have to watch Ken Burns' New York. You have to.

Okay. For what you're talking about, and you actually need to see how brilliantly the city was planned in order to really appreciate how downhill things have gone. It's time.

So it has been years since they actually installed those cameras and spent the $500,000,000, but there was so much pushback. Apparently, like, the Uber and Lyft lobbies lobby for this. I don't know why they would wanna charge their drivers more, but there was a lot of, like, legalities. And act as of yesterday, it officially went into effect. Everybody's talking about it in New York because it's kind of crazy.

It's it's an attempt to decrease congestion, which is obviously a good thing. But what it really is, upon my research last night, it is like a fundraising technique for the MTA. The MTA apparently needs, like, $10,000,000,000 to do what they need to do. That is, you know, to clean the air and, you know, repairs and and fix everything. They say that ridership is down because of COVID.

And so

Is there a budget for the crime? Right. Wouldn't that go to the NYPD? Right. So

all of this is like a fundraising campaign. That's what the this tax is for. And people

And then also would encourage people to use the MTA Right. Because they don't wanna pay the congestion.

So to make it more expensive to drive

to the MTA.

To make it more expensive to drive, they're really trying to encourage people to use mass transit, which New York is such a mass transit city. The fact that they're experiencing such lulls in in mass transit usage usage really speaks to how inefficient and unsafe the mass transit is. And it's just, like, the crazy timing of it all because in the last month, there has been I mean, it's all over my TikTok. Everybody's talking about the crimes on the subway, people just getting stabbed, that woman who was burned alive. Like, it's so horrible.

And it's now I feel like it's having such a a a big topic of conversation because it's really, for years, the subway's been, like, a a really unsafe place, mostly for women. And now it's happening to everyone. You know, a man was pushed on the tracks, and the whole thing was caught on video. A man was stabbed. I saw a picture of his, like, big bloody arm.

So it's happening to everyone. So now everyone's paying attention. And the timing for the congestion tax is, like, wow. So many people are now opting who really can't afford it. They're opting not to take the subway, and you are implementing a tax that forces us back into these unsafe conditions.

Right. So the timing is just so bad. Also, like, they needed 10

they need $10,000,000,000, but they spent 500,000,000 on cameras. How much did Uber and Lyft

I don't know. Campaign? But the budget so then I started looking into the MTA. I'm like, the MTA needs money. It's like, okay.

Broke? Who knew?

What? Like and also, like, your taxes. Right. Your story made me laugh. Like, get a job.

Oh, so then I'm thinking

I'm like, okay. Well, who funds the MTA? I'm pretty sure it's, like, taxpayer dollars. Right?

Plus the fares. Like, they charge

you for it. So the MTA makes money from our taxes. They have federal funding.

Okay.

And you have to pay to get on a bus or a subway. And I know a lot of people, like, hop the turnstiles and stuff in that. Like, it's claims to, like, make a huge deficit. 1 thing you're not gonna catch me caring about is people hopping the turnstiles on the subway. Like, seriously, get a life.

No. It's like too many people are hopping the turnstiles as making it unprofitable. Make maybe fix that problem. Don't charge the people who are paying more.

Not only that. Like, for a taxpayer to pay for this like, the subway should be free. We're already paying for it. It's taxpayer funded. So the fact that, like, they have all these streams of revenue and they can't figure out how to operate in a in a at a positive Jackie, their budget in 2024 was almost $20,000,000,000.

What is 10 more gonna do? You obviously don't know how to manage a budget. That's your problem. Stop texting us. Like, leave us alone.

And, also, when you really think about it, I was reading, like, so much, sort of, like, intellectual think pieces about this on Twitter last night. A congestion tax is really, like, a way of creating affluent zones. Right. Because it's a way to keep desirable neighborhoods, in this case, in Manhattan, limited to people who live in outer boroughs. It's a way to keep really poor people out, and it's disgraceful, and it's so wrong.

And people keep comparing to London. Right? They're they implemented in London. It was, like, a really big deal. It was really controversial.

But the main difference in London is that London and Europe in general, where they do this, they have, like, the most sophisticated public transit systems in the world. They are clean. They are safe. They are efficient. They are fast.

Like, people love the tube, the tube, the tube. Like, everybody's taking the fucking tube. Okay. Give us that. Maybe we wouldn't complain.

Like, it wouldn't be a big deal. Also, they take a lot of other measures in Europe, especially London. Shannon was telling me about this. And I remember hearing about this. I think when I was in Rome a couple of years ago, I was like, that's so smart because the the roads are so tiny.

I'm like, how do they get, like, big trucks in here? Like, how do they deliver to the Duane Reade in the pharmacy? And those big trucks that make huge deliveries are only allowed within, like, the city center certain hours of night. Like, I think it's, like, midnight to 6 AM. They're only allowed to make their deliveries.

And that's helped, obviously, decrease a lot of congestion because in the city, like, there are 18 wheelers on every block. They double park. They take up multiple lanes. Like, it causes a lot of congestion, but you have to allow for it because that's how restaurants get their food. That's how, you know, stores get their stock.

And so they're taking, like, a lot of measures in London, and it's still considered really controversial. And I I don't think it has actually made a huge difference, except that it keeps people who can't afford to live in the city. It keeps them out, and that's wrong. Like, that's a that's New York melting pot. It's for everyone.

Like, it's wrong. No.

On all counts, it's so wrong. I think it's something that everyone can unite around. Yeah. And I guess the on the opposite side to easing congestion, that's what they're trying to do would be a good thing. And, also, I'm sure they also have, like, environmental concerns are in that column as well.

Yes. So it's all about clean air and helping, you know, fix the air quality in New York, which is also something I'm super down for. But, like, in terms of the list of priorities, like, people making a living, going to and from work, like, that to me like, to worry about just air quality is such a privilege. For that to be your only priority and be, like, the reason you do all this, you inconvenience millions of people. I'm, like, I don't know.

That's just, like that comes from, like, a really privileged point of view, I think, like, to exclusively care about air quality and to inconvenience so many hardworking people for that. Like, yeah. In an ideal world, we would all have clean air everywhere all the time.

No. And, also, how it should go is, like, fix the subway, fix the MTA, and then try and push people to take it more. Because, also, like, say they get their $10,000,000,000, like, it's not gonna get better. Oh my god. Of course not.

Say, whenever this happens, it will be better. Like and it's never it only keeps getting worse. And and the people who are in charge who are making these rules, like, have proven themselves to be bad at their job.

And it's important to remember, it's a mayorial mayoral? Mayorial raise election the mayor?

I thought it was the governor.

It's both. It's really Kathy, the governor. She's, like, all about this. Kath. Kath.

And she just, like, posted a picture of herself on the subway being, like, I don't know what you guys are talking about. This shit is safe. I'm, like, okay, then shut up. Like, literally shut up. So just elected officials, like, I know we're all and we're just coming off of a presidential 1, so, obviously, it's

a huge concern. But, like, local, state, and Also, like, the city is kind of its own entity. So Yeah.

It's also just kind of, like, lawlessness out here. Like, it's really crazy.

It's a crazy place and a crazy time, but

I'm so fucking happy to be home. Like, let me tell you, New York, like and I'm always railing on New York. Like, it sucks. When I got home on Saturday, I was like I literally felt like a girl in a movie, like, window down. I'm crossing the bridge.

Like, I see the skyline, and I'm like, home. I'm going home. Like

You're that girl, Instagram that we were talk that I we were looking at her video who makes those she pretends to be the girl in a movie, Delaney.

We love Delaney. You know, I'm literally a girl in a movie in the back of a cab, like, going to the big city. I love it. Home. I wish I didn't love it here so much because every when I went on my rant last night about the congestion tax 30.

Everybody's likes up to Florida. You need to run for local office.

You know, Ben's dream is to run for local office in New York, specifically mayor. He's, like, actually asked me really seriously, like, over the course of the years, like, if he could run. And I said, no. Like, you know, in elections, they just destroy families. They dig up old dirt.

Like, I'm like, could we have more, like, to hide if we could? Like, I'm just not interested in that sort of life, and he, like, gets mad at me every time we talk about it. Well, the thing is, I feel like if he's serious, like, have him start with

as a local council person. Like, you don't just become mayor because

you decide. So, like, do the work It feels like everybody who's mayor just, like, decides 1 day to become mayor.

Yes. And they have, like Yeah.

Like, Eric Adams comes from law enforcement.

With a cop.

Yeah. Yeah. You know? I'm like Bloomberg totally just decides to be mayor 1 day.

Busy but he had a business track record. And then if you run the city like a business, hey. That's, like, a good angle. Look at the books for Sprint. They do well.

Now let's where did de Blasio come from? Where is that experience?

Literally, like, he came from the sewer. Like, I don't know

He's been, like, forgotten, and I just feel like that's wrong.

Us to build a body, keep his house hostage. I wanna forgive you, and I wanna forget you.

I know. But I just feel like for our peace, like, you have to move on.

That's why, like, everybody hates on Eric Adams, and he's definitely, like, super problematic, like, 1 of our worst mayors yet. Having said that,

it was You don't know where we've been.

The best thing to happen to Eric Adams was coming into office after Bill de Blasio. Like, our like, there has never been a politician more disliked. I never met 1 person, like, regardless of political affiliation. I've never met 1 person who thought he did a good job.

With I've never seen 1 de Blasio comment. Not 1. Yeah. Yeah.

I remember when he then tried to run for president. Like, tell me you don't have your finger on the pulse without telling me.

Attorney, 2025 is so political already.

I know. Also, major update in my life that I cannot wait to share with everyone. You might have noticed already. I have a new laugh. Now I didn't know this was a pregnancy symptom.

And while I was at your house, what was I doing the whole time? Laughing were hilarious. I was giggling. And I started to realize. I was like, oh my god.

I have a new laugh, and I love it. And I was just like, oh, I must be maturing. I didn't know it was affiliated with pregnancy. And it wasn't until, like, a week with my new laugh that I just mentioned it to you, and you were like, yeah. That's, like, fully a pregnancy thing.

And I have to say, I hope it doesn't go back. I hope my laugh never goes back. I was never in love with my laugh.

I think it does go back, but maybe, like, your muscles have remembered. Because I feel like my laugh changed when I was pregnant, and I feel like I have nodes of

of my pregnant laugh still.

Yeah. Yeah. It was, like, deeper and heartier. And it's, like the thing is I couldn't breathe. So, yeah,

it was like

also, my, I'm a little bit lost my voice. I have a raspy voice today, so I will sing sticky shoes later. So if my laugh is, like, deep

and hearty today, enjoy it. No. My new laugh reminds me so much. I don't know if you've noticed, like, whose laugh it sounds sounds like. You told me

that it sounds like Olivia, but I wouldn't have noticed that otherwise. No.

It sounds just like our sister Olivia's laugh, and she had such a great laugh. Like, I actually remember when I was on tour, every show she would come to, you would I would be able to, like, hear her laugh. She's a cackle. It's a cackle. It's a cackle.

It's a cackle, and I think that my new laugh is, like, a true cackle, and it's a little bit more high pitched. And I love it. I cannot wait for you guys to hear it. You're just you're just you're gonna love it.

That's so funny because mine was such a low register. A low. I had a low laugh. Ho ho ho.

Very Santa Claus energy.

Yeah. 100%.

Anything else we need to catch up on before we dive in? The stories by

the way. So many things.

So for those just curious about the order of things, the stories are obviously not everything that happened, like, yesterday. The last couple of weeks are stories we haven't covered on Patreon. We did do, like, a big update when Blake Lively sued just or filed the complaint against Justin Baldoni. And so that has been covered, but there's been a a big update in the Baldoni story, of course, the Golden Globes, Paige and Craig. So we're gonna be covering the last couple of weeks of big stories that weren't covered on the Patreon.

Yeah. It's been, like, a week even though time is just a contract really at this point. We did both watch the Golden Globes last night. Usually, that'd be first story, but it's actually gonna be 3rd because, like, not everyone watched, and we need to talk about, like, Paige and Craig first and foremost.

And they're like, I don't even know how long today's episode's gonna be.

I'm gonna say 2 hours. Listen. I've got a 128 gigs on the card. I'm totally fine. Better at

My doctor's appointment is until later. Like, I literally have nowhere to be but this chair on my, like, on my Coxidinia pillow. Speaking of my Coxidinia pillow, we need to talk about Secret Santa, which is something we started to do within our family, since last year. So it's, like, the 2nd year. And last year, famously, Ben fucked up so badly, when he got Margo Lachey, and he bought her a cameo, which is just, like, the worst gift ever.

And he actually bought her a cameo. He must have gotten confused. He bought her a cameo from Frank Catania. And when it came on the TV, she had no idea who

it was. That would like, she doesn't watch Real Housewives of New Jersey. Never has. And not only is it not, like, Teresa I think she would recognize Teresa Giudice. But, like, someone's ex husband, she had no idea who this man was who's talking to her, telling her how wonderful she is.

And, like, last year it wasn't even last year. I would say, like, 18 months ago, Jackie went through, like, an obsession with Frank Catania. And by December of last year, like, the obsession was over. So when he thought it

when he got it for me,

it was a bad gift anyway.

And I and I I do love him. Even if he got it for me, like, I wouldn't have been happy. Everyone else got, like, tangible, thoughtful gifts, like, custom

mugs, like, so sweet Etsy vibes. Right.

So we do need to talk about this year who Ben got. I actually got Ben. Yeah. What you got? And he did he didn't open his gift, and he left it at my house.

My god. Yeah. That's so rude. I kind

of it was hard because some people were traveling and some people were local, so I knew that, like, he might not take it home with him, which I didn't expect him to. So I was like, what's something that if he leaves here, I wouldn't mind having, but he can use while he's here. Yep. And it was a it was like a little putting green.

Yep. So cute.

So cute, but now I'll just use it with the boys. Yeah. No.

It's a kid's toy now.

And I I think that

there was a lot of anticipation within the family, but, also, within the Toast community, because you guys died when we told you that Frank Catania story about, like, how Ben would make up for it this year, who was getting Ben. And I actually thought that Ben got me, and I was right because he was being so serious about it. Like, I remember last year, I kept having to remind him. I'm like, by the way, don't forget. Before we leave for Utah, to get your secret Santa.

And he was just, like, so, like, relaxed about it. Like, I I didn't want him to forget. And, honestly, I wish he had forgotten. That's how bad it was. So this year, he was so taking it so seriously.

I was like, I gotta get my Secret Santa gift. He was like, I already got mine. I was like, oh, shit. So then I realized why would he be being so serious? I'm totally the person he got.

And I was right. And he didn't wanna, like, gossip about, like, who we thought other people had. And I was like, okay. That's lame of you. Like, you totally have me.

Now let me tell you what he got me. He got me a Coxidinia pillow, which sucks. First of all, he wants to get, like, a medical device for Secret Santa, let alone a medical device I already have 3 of, 1 in the car, 1 in the makeup chair, and 1 that I'm sitting on right now. And he was like, well, this one's better. I did a lot of research.

It's like the the Rolls Royce.

Yeah. He said

it's the Rolls Royce of Coxidinia pillows. And I'm like, you couldn't have just gotten this from me, like, a couple of weeks ago when you like, I could've used it. You've just been sitting on it literally.

What's worse? What's worse? The fact that he got you, like, such a lackluster gift or, like, it's something that could've helped you and he didn't give it to you sooner.

I know. Like, a lifesaving device. And, honestly, I sat on it like it wasn't that great. I happen to really like my coccydynia pillows. Like, I'm all set.

By the way, even if it was, like, a lifesaving device and coccydynia goes away when you

sit on it. Like, that's not a secret Santa present. No. I feel like maybe Ben doesn't know what secret Santa is. Like, he's got it.

What which year do you think he did worse? Last year? Yeah. Yeah. The 1st year will always be, like, an infamous story in the family, and he will never move it down.

And I'm surprised he, like, really dropped the ball so poorly again this year. I really hope, like, next like, we like, we'll we'll just try again next year. I don't know what what else there is to say.

Yeah. And what I gotta keep meaning to share because I do think it's gonna be a big part of my journey through life Oh, yeah. Is Olivia got me a butter churner. Mhmm. What's the brand?

It's, like, very legit. I don't know. I feel like speaking to me, like, when dry

bulk. Uses it.

Yeah. So it's that, like, mason jar with the handheld churner, and you can churn your own butter. So that's what I'll be doing in 24.

Matching butter dish. So Olivia basically said get back in the kitchen, woman.

Yeah. She said you're not doing enough. Yep. Like, we need more. Oh, this bread is good, but have you tried it with your own butter?

Correct. I So my next year, I'll be suffering from probably arthritis Yeah. From all of the churning.

Carpal tunnel over here. I'll need a carpal tunnel pillow. I actually think I did, like, the best job in the family. Oh, we have. Your husband?

What did you oh, you did really good.

I think, like, it was the most thoughtful and, like, actually, like, you could applicable. Like, you could use it in your everyday life because it wasn't just like a novelty gift. We know your husband loves going to the movies. So I got him a

She bought him season tickets.

A year long movie pass to his local theater, which gives him 1 free ticket a month. It rolls over to the next month. So any month that he doesn't use it, he'll have, like, a cumulative. And you get 20% off companion tickets and concessions. Like, that I feel like once a month, like, that's probably the frequency he goes to the movies, would you say?

I'm sure he would like to go

to the movies. Frequency.

Yeah. And and it's hard to give, like because technically a digital gift. It's a gift card. So then I had, like, a big poster board made, like, a life-sized check, but was, like, a big movie ticket, and it says, like, here's your annual pass. And I I just think it was, like, actually brilliant and thoughtful.

And, like, if like, I hope he felt, like, really seen. You know?

If the if the ticket that he hasn't used rolls over into the next month and then he has 2 tickets that month, then can it be free for Companion?

Okay. So I didn't read the bylaws. I don't

You didn't read the okay. K. All I

know is that it falls over.

I'll call and ask. And then I actually thought Margo did the best, and she kind of always crushes.

Yeah.

She got she got Olivia, and she got her, like, a bunch of custom, like, cookware stuff from Etsy.

She's really good.

What did she she has really good bags with the kids'

faces on it.

And she did and that and, what else? Like, tea towel stuff, other stuff.

Yeah. I can't remember. So

good. Yeah.

It just had, like, monogram, like, Shapiro. Like, it was just, like it was good to wear her purse. Remember we were all like,

that was a good job. And last year, she did that too. She got stuff she got Zach Yeah. And she got him a mug, like, a custom dad mug and that hat, that olive hat,

which he loves. Secret Santa is so fun.

It is so fun. We had so much fun.

I hate that we have to wait, like, a whole year, but maybe that'll give Ben some time to think about his actions. Maybe it would. Maybe.

No. But, like, he'll he thought about his actions all year. It's like I think he needs it, like, a presentation. Like, what is secret Santa? What is the goal here?

Someone needs to put together, like, a YouTube tutorial about what it is. Yeah. Oh my god. What else to discuss? I by the way, I have so many notes for today's episode.

So if you guys see me looking at my phone

She's looking at her notes.

Because I have, like I wrote down some thoughts that I had at the Golden Globes, but, mostly, like, my Blake Lively stuff. Because a lot of people are, like, ready for Claudia and Jackie to apologize. Like, can't wait to hear them explain this. And it's like, oh, did you not read the lawsuit? Like, literally, not only am I not apologizing, not backtracking, I'm even more You're doobleying?

I'm doobleying down. Like, everybody's like, oh my god. Can you believe how much, like, his proof contradicted hers? Literally, not only did it not contradict, it actually supported a lot of her claims. Like, I the willy nilly ness of the like, literally, the Internet is just, like, supporting in in in this case and specifically, but there are a lot of cases like this.

Like, just the last person who talks. It's like, oh, she's right.

Yeah.

Oh, no. He's right.

Right. Right.

Like, you guys stand for fucking nothing, bitch. Like, at least at least I can, like, sleep well knowing. And I I've never changed my stance and be like let's say everything Blake Lively said is a lie, and I and I don't believe that it is. Like, I will never regret like, her accusations are so disgusting. Like, I will never regret believing her and taking her side.

Well, so for me, like, some of the

things in his countersuit, like, tell his side of like, the 2 sides of what happened, and some things it like, I'm like, oh, okay. Well, that's how Justin sees it. But I just keep coming back to the birth scene. Like, him here's what he's saying. Him telling a woman who's given birth 4 times that women give birth naked.

And, by the way, that's the video that he made Blake watch that was considered the pornography. And so that's him countering saying we didn't show pornographic videos. It's my wife giving birth. It's beautiful.

Yeah. That's how Supporting her claim.

Yeah. Yeah. But I'm like, okay. But the fact that you made her watch that to tell her how to give birth and then didn't have a closed set and wanted her to be naked, like no.

Here By the way,

we'll we'll

hear a lot of claims over the next couple of months, but things we need to constantly, like, buoy ourselves to. The birth suit give birth naked. The birth suit? Sorry. Like, some do, some don't.

2nd, the entire cast, especially most of the women having having unfollowed him during, not even during this, like, dramas, during the actual filming. Nobody associating with him. And 3, Jenny Slate, Brendan Sklar, all the people coming out supporting Blake Lively after her claims. Like Isn't that the same as 2? No.

Because 1 is privately. Like, they all, like, privately and while working together, like, decided not to fuck with him, so he's obviously being a freak. And then when it came time to, like, publicly take a stand, which is horrible. Like, it's you're gonna get shit no matter what. The important a lot of the key figures in the film, Colleen, Jenny Slate, Brendan Sklar, like, they stood with Blake.

That means something to me. Yeah. It's too separate. We'll get

into it. We'll get into it. So There's a lot to discuss, and your babe story didn't make the cut this today. Don't worry. Maybe tomorrow.

But these were, like, the the 5 that I didn't have to pick stories. They they They picked themselves. What I've been waiting to discuss. Yeah. So now I think without further ado, here are the fast 5 stories that you need to know.

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She's paying the price. Literally. So story first story, Paige DeSorbo and Craig Conover has split after 3 years of dating. Paige announced on her podcast, Biggley Squad, on December 30th that she and Craig have, quote, decided to no longer be together. She said, it's weird.

It's very weird. I wasn't expecting this. Obviously, when we first started dating, you don't think, oh, what will happen? Will we get married? Will we not?

You're just kind of, like, in this relationship. She didn't reveal what caused the breakup, but hinted that there wasn't strife. She, you know, went on and on about how he's such a good person. He was such a good boyfriend. Like, she has only wonderful things to say about him, but it just doesn't work out.

And I think for people who've been following their relationship and watching both shows, especially this most recent episode of southern charm weirdly was very Craig and Paige heavy. Yeah. I think it's, like, pretty clear what has happened here. Everyone was, like, waiting for them to move in together and take the next step in their relationship. But, like, their lives are just in different places, and neither 1 of them can or wants to Budge.

Move and budge. And and you can make the case for either 1. Why Craig needs to be in Charleston and my page needs to be in New York. And so without that, then you can't move forward. You can't get engaged if you live together, and you can't live together if you can't commit to 1 city.

So I just feel like, you know, they realize that, and also their timelines might not be exactly the same. And and that as he gets older, like, that is probably something that he's thinking of. Yeah. Like, he has

made it abundantly clear that, like, getting married, having kids is something he wants to do, like, imminently. And I think he knew that Paige was a girl he wanted to do it with, and he loved her so much. And he was willing to wait for her to be ready. And I think she, like, appreciated that space she gave him. And then it got to a point where, like, either it was, like, kind of shit or get off the pot for Craig, or she had a realization that, like, this is not how she, you know, wants to to go out.

This is not the life that she envisioned for herself. So when the news itself was so shocking. But if you've been paying attention, like, it wasn't a perfect relationship for this 1 kind of big reason, and it was this unsolved thing for so long. And we just I I just thought I'm like, they're gonna figure it out. Like, they'll figure it out.

They'll figure it out. And, actually, they didn't. And Paige spoke a lot about how making that decision at 32, and the life that you thought you'd have for yourself with marriage and kids, the biological clock, the societal pressures. She was sort of just like, fuck it. And I, like, I seriously am so upset.

Like, I love these 2.

No. I know. I'm so upset. And I I feel like in the beginning, I was always like, well, Paige will move to Charleston. And, like, whenever Paige is ready to do that, then they'll do that.

But then, like, the last year or so, like, Craig was spending so much more time in New York. And, also, on Watch What Happens Live, like, people were asked, who do you think will move? And everyone was saying, like, Craig is gonna move to New York. So I'm like, okay. Well, Craig is gonna move to New York, and I guess he just can't.

And he just opened a bar. I know he's, like, a partner in a bar now in Charleston. Obviously, the show is in Charleston. So in down south, he's based in Charleston. Like, he really can't move.

So I think just to say, because I

think people assume Paige would move because, like, her job and her life is very like, it's what we do. You could really do it from anywhere. Now, obviously, being in New York, you're afforded so many opportunities. And I think she also just loves living in New York, and she shouldn't have to give that up because she doesn't want to. But the assumption that she would move was just because, like, between their jobs, like, she only has to be in New York, technically, for, like, 8 weeks in the summer.

Technically.

Yeah. But she's also expressed that she wants to be close to her family. She cried on on Summer House talking about the idea of leaving her mom, like, just is so upsetting to her. But the reason why this is so shocking is because I feel like these are 2 people who, like, really, really not only love each other, but like each other. And, like, I feel like the absence of 1 another from each other's lives, like, I actually not to sound, like, intentional.

I can see them getting back together just being like, life isn't worth it. You know? Like, whatever it is, they'll make it work. Because I feel like how do you go from having, like, this best friend and, like, they liked each other? Sure.

A lot of couples, they don't even like each other. They love each other, but they don't like each other. Like, if they really like, they talk all the time. Like, they were together most days of the week. They really made it work.

Like Yeah. I feel like they're really gonna miss each other.

I hope so. That's a good perspective.

Now Right?

The Internet, like, quickly ran with rumors that, like, Paige cheated on him. They said she was spotted out on New Year's Eve celebrating with Marcello Hernandez.

That's who knows.

And out. Like, seriously, I don't believe any of it. Like, Paige No. See what you wanna about Paige, but she's actually, like, very, like, she like, not all the time, but she's, like, a deeply she's a deep person. Right?

And you don't just, like, go from, like, a 3 year relationship to, like, out. And and people, like, are like, there was no proof of any of it. No pictures. No nothing. People are so annoying.

Like, let the girl live. And, really, she's definitely, like, mourning this relationship. Now not to make everything about me, but, you know, like, I was kind of involved. Like, actually, not at all. Like, not that's that's an overstatement.

But over the Christmas break, I was getting tagged in a 1000000 TikToks. I'm like, what's going on? What's going on? And it was actually about Ben. So, yes, on the last episode of the year for Good Guys, I don't know what what they were even talking about.

I don't know why Ben brought up Craig. But, you know, Ben and Craig are really good friends. Craig is an investor, like, an ambassador for Spritz. So he was talking about Paige and Craig. I don't know in what capacity and what context, and he just referred to Craig as Paige's soon to be hubby.

And everybody was like, They're engaged. Oh, BSC confirmed it. Claudia's totally gonna kill Ben for spilling the secret. Like, implying that Ben had some insider knowledge from Craig about these 2 proposing and getting engaged, and he accidentally spilled the beans. And not only was that not the case, but I guess they were literally broken up.

And I did actually film a TikTok being like because I felt bad. I feel like Paige gets, like, for years, they're engaged. They're all these fake rumors about her. It's probably so fucking annoying. And I felt really bad because Ben just talks weird.

Ben just says stuff. Like, I can't explain it. He knew nothing.

When my when my friend is dating someone for a long time, I call them their husband. Yeah. Yeah.

Ben just, like, talks weird.

I never like, I guess if I said to say it on the show with 2 people that people are really reading into, like, yeah, I understand how people arrived at that conclusion, but also just know, like, there it could also just be that there's nothing, like, leading in what he's saying. Nothing

nefarious. Ben knew nothing. Ben just talks weird. Like, he just is weird. I can't explain it in any other way.

And, oh my god, they ran

with him. Soon to be hubby?

Yeah. Which literally sounds like you know 2 people got engaged.

Like, it's crazy. And, also, it takes more breaths to say that than it is to just say Paige's hubby or Paige's boyfriend.

Yeah. No. No. And when I asked him about it, he was like, what do you mean? Like, it's not weird.

I'm like, he didn't even get it. I'm like, you're so annoying. And so I felt so bad, and I was like, it's probably the most annoying thing. This has, like, kinda plagued both Paige and Craig for years, and now this is, like, a legitimate thing people are reading into. And and then it turns out they're literally broken up.

I I was shocked. And I didn't know they were broken up until I I found out with everybody else. Like, I was shocked. Yeah. Me too.

I also, like, love that they release, like, an audio only December 30th. Nobody releases podcast episodes after Christmas. Like, it's a kinda dead zone for media. There's no new episodes of anything. So I like that they kinda buried it.

Like, seriously, like, it's probably hard. Couldn't. Of course not. Of course not. But as much as they wanted, they could've.

I think it was also a Friday.

Yeah. That was, like, Zach Brian and the election. Like, you cannot bury this.

Some things are too big. Right.

I already did thought that, like, by the by the time, like, the New Year picks up, like, today, like, we would have moved on, but, like, we can't. Hell. And so we properly lay

it to rest. Still at the restaurant.

And I also feel like we will get to a place where we, as people of course, they're already there probably, where we are like, this was sort of the best.

Like, this

is what needed to happen. They'll go on and do great things and and hopefully find love and find joy. But until, like, there like, today, just saying, like, sad. And southern charm this week was so crazy because

it was,

like, it was a lot about, like, Craig changing, Austin being like, why don't we give to the bar, buddy? And, like, like, classic.

Craig's, like, almost 40. That's why.

Craig froze his sperm. He talks about, his relationship with Paige,

and we're freezing your sperm.

He froze his sperm and because he had this fear of something happening to him Okay. Where he could no longer have kids. Like, his heart attack.

A concern for men. It's more so like, you could have a No. There there are men out here getting women pregnant. Robert De Niro.

Yes. It was more so, like, of a freak thing happening Got it. Where he could no longer, so he froze.

Kind of like an intrusive thought.

Yeah. Yeah. But it's like, okay. It's freezing. Pop off.

Literally. And he's talking about, you know, the timetable and how where he thought he'd be, but he fell in love with Paige and, you know, it just really it I feel like if you wanna know why they broke up, like, it's that. Like, they they thought that they could, surmount these really big things, and they are

kind of insurmountable. Yes. But also and I think, like, the sad truth here, and this is probably something they came to the realization too, is that while there are so many things that keep you tied to a city, at the end of the day, the person you marry should be bigger than all of that. Like, they should be more important. Yeah.

I like, my life is in New York, but if Ben said we're moving to Alaska, like, we're moving to Alaska. Like Right. And so if you can't even conceive giving all of that up for the person, then then that's not your person. And that's Yeah. That's probably, like, the saddest part of all this.

And they had to come to that realization. Because, yes, I think it was understood that Paige would move, but, like, Craig wasn't out here offering. Like so for both of them, like, it wasn't

Yeah.

It wasn't the other 1.

And beyond that, like, New York or Charleston or not even Alaska. Like, you can do true. They really could do what they were doing.

There's and they've been managing to make this, like, bicoastal, whatever you wanna call it, relationship work. It's so easy to get to Charleston from New York and New York to Charleston. They could have lived in both places. They could have done it together, but the fact that they actively chose not to, I think, is speaks to to why we're here.

But then it's like and I've realized this recently about me and you because we have so we have such different ideas of, like, what our dream life looks like, like, in terms of, like, a home.

Yep.

And, And, like, what if there are 2 people who are like that? Like, where do if you and I were married, where would we live? It's an amazing question.

Well, I'm like, I'm a steam I'm a steamroller. We would live where I wanna live because I

wanna live. I know. But, like, I would not be happy living in a city.

Yeah. That's so true.

So maybe they're just like a Jacks and a Claude when it comes to, like, how like, your idea what you're trying

to make. Cities that are, like, hybrids of both. Like, I'm just saying if if that person is your person, like, you figure it out. Like, if me and me have such different ideas, like, we would move to Nashville. Like, we would figure it out.

By the way, we could agree on Nashville. That's what we would do. Only thing.

And if Nashville had a thriving Jewish community, like, we would all be living there today.

A 100%.

And don't come for me. I know there are Jews there. I'm just saying it's not like a thriving community. Lots of shuls and

And lots of kosher meats and

lots of schools. Schools.

Like no. Trust us, we've looked. Yeah. But then okay. Say we're moving to Nashville.

Now let's make Craig Craig and Craig about us.

Craig and Pej.

Like, would you be happy in Franklin?

Yes. Oh my god. Would I be happy in Franklin? All the celebrities live there.

Okay. Okay. So we just

think we can afford what we want.

But Maybe Paige and Craig needed to move to Franklin.

I think moving to Franklin would work like, solve like, solve a lot of problems for a lot of different people. I agree. Save a lot of relationships. That's what I think. Yeah.

I'm so upset, but I, like, I do

understand. I'm upset. I understand. However, I'm finding, like, the hope and the joy in thinking about, like, the their future separately.

I think will be engaged in a year. Like, he's someone who really wants and by the way, I think that if the roles were reversed and, you know, it was the woman who didn't wanna give up or sacrifice, you know, marriage and children, like, we would all empower that and agree and champion her. And I think that while the roles are, like, a like, reverse, usually, it's the other way. It's the woman who's worried about the clock and

It's the Scottie's sick. It's the Shep.

And I know, like,

we're back to Charleston. Like, I think both

of their decisions, like, are brave and and deserve, like, Paige choosing herself and, like, her career. Like, that's commendable. And Craig, like, not willing to budge on these, like, big things that really mattered him, that's also so valid and so real. And, like, I champion that too.

Yes. Also, Craig is a few years older than Paige, and those few years are very critical in life and also in this situation because he's nearing 40, and he, like, wants to be Yeah. Yes. Men can be dads whenever, but he wants to

his time.

A dad in this time. And Paige still has, like, a few years before she's there and feeling that way. And I just I feel like 3 years was the max they could give it. You know? The the

longest they could stretch. It's like shit or get off the pot. That's what exactly it is.

And it happens every day in in relationships all the time.

It does. It's really sad. It really is. Yeah. Because it's kind of like right person, wrong time.

However, I think what I'm coming to terms with is that it might not be right person. Like, because if it was, like, you're willing to move mountains to do anything.

Yeah. We'd be together in any time, in any place. Yeah.

So, Rip, poor 1 out for these 2. Thanks for the memories.

They were par g. Such

I also feel like Paige is, like, a little bit, like like, eclipsing Bravo. Sometimes I, like, remember she's on Summer House. I'm, like, why? Like, she's such a I don't even know what to call her. She's a star.

She's, like, a socialite now. Yeah. Her podcast is super popular, but she's, like, a huge fashion girly. She's a very successful influencer. Like, she's just kinda like a Carrie Bradshaw of our time.

And I don't know. I feel like when she goes to BravoCon, I'm like, girl, I'm sorry for you. Like, it it was it was a great stepping stone for her to get here, but I do feel like she's kind of outgrown it, especially that particular show. Like, what

are you doing with Kyle? Like, seriously happens this season. I do agree with you. I'm like, if she did if she didn't go back on Summer House, like, her life would not change whatsoever. In fact, her summers would be freed up.

She could go to Europe. No. She needs to be, like,

a Vogue contributor. Like, all like, seriously, I just think there's endless potential for her. She's so beautiful. She's so funny. Like, she actually has that personality that most girls who are that pretty sort of, like, rest on their laurels.

They don't have to be so dazzling. She really is just, like, diamond of the season.

Yes. I agree. For other brothers, Bravo stars, BravoCon is, like, the biggest thing in their year. Like, for her to drag.

It's literally, like, something she probably dreads. And, by the way, I don't know any of this to be true. It's just, like, how I perceive it.

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I understand. She's kind of, like, too good for it. Like, when you think of her accolades, like, reality star is, like, 5th on the list, and it's like doesn't it just doesn't feel like any more, like, thank you for giving us Paige, but, like, you have to let her go now. Bravo.

Yeah. Set her free. Yeah. No. It's it's very true.

But, anyways, like, excited to see what she does next, especially as, like, now she's she's sat. She's focused on Paige. She's not going in Charleston every other week. Dates.

Like, she's so pretty. Like, let's see. But, like, obviously, I don't wanna go there. Obviously, I'm, like, surprised.

Right. It's still too raw for both of like, yeah.

Because But I'm but I'm, like, excited to see.

I just feel like we can't talk that way, like, yet. I feel like we can't.

Yeah. No. We can't. It's so disrespectful and rude.

Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

Let me pull up my notes.

Speaking of disrespectful and rude, Justin Baldoni is filing a $250,000,000 lawsuit against The New York Times over the Blake Lively story. So while we were off, if you're a Patreon, you're all caught up. But while we were off, Blake Lively filed a lawsuit against Justin Wayfair Studios, PR, and New York Times. They had the exclusive. They

were gonna call him back. Other complaints. He's, like, suing on behalf of Melissa Nathan, the publicist, Jennifer Abel, the publicist. It's a bunch of people who were named in the original complaint that was published in the New York Times. They're all suing together.

So I guess I've been sort of splitting the bill for the lawyers.

Yes. And they are suing the New York Times. They wrote, 4,000, word piece titled we can bury anyone, and it showed how Justin and his team buried Blake and everything that happened this summer. So Tory and I, of course, felt so vindicated. You have to read everything that's in there before we get into all of this, but I feel like everyone is caught up.

So that's where we were at.

And if you were looking for our thoughts on just the Blake Lively up until that point, we did a whole podcast episode about it on Patreon over the winter break because there was so much to dive into, so many, like, really abhorrent allegations. And I thought her complaint really colored in the timeline of events in a chronological sense with that, like, the SAG after break. So the Internet sort of swung back completely once Blake filed her complaint because how could you not? And so many celebrities were speaking out. And then, like, a couple of days later, maybe over, like, a week later, Justin Baldoni filed this lawsuit, and now everyone has swung back.

Yes. Also, Justin, like, was dropped by WME, which was his agency and also Blake's agency. But beyond that, what other retribution did you see? His podcast host left the podcast, which, by the way, we need to add that to the list of things booing us that we need to move to.

No. No. No. No. No.

I can't hang anything on this person who left his podcast, who podcasted with him for so many years and championed him as a male feminist. And then the minute, like, things got went south for him, she left. Like so were you lying that whole time, or you didn't know who your podcast host was, or you're just going you're going with the tides. Like, I need clarification. That was where we left the Patreon too.

Like, okay. Unscrupled. But that's also, like, a pillar. Not your boy?

For me, that's a big pillar in this story, of of things.

I wonder if she comes back to the show now. Like, if this girl comes back with Justin,

I'm back on the pod. So it literally was really wild to see public opinion completely shift. I think a lot of people begrudgingly supported Blake Lively when she released her complaint because how could you not the thing she were was alleging were really so fucking disgusting. And this was a person everyone was so quick and easy and happy to destroy a couple of months ago. And the fact that they sort of had to take her side a couple of weeks ago, I think, was hard for a lot of people.

They're just jealous. Like, she's this perfect, you know, skinny blonde, rich, you know, married to Ryan Reynolds. Like, she's easy to hate, and she's obviously doesn't seem like the best, you know, most kind, like, compassionate, amazing personality.

Because what she said to then the flaw of it all. Yeah.

No. She definitely is, like, kind of a wench for sure. Not a crime, but, obviously, not the type of person you'd like to staying out with in champion. So it was really, I think, hard for people to have to take her side. And then Justin Baldoni came out with this lawsuit, and people were so happy to sort of cling onto it to be back on team Justin.

And, basically, the the overwhelming consensus is, like, everyone's back on team Justin now because so much of what he shared and he has his own text messages, his own proof, and so much of that completely contradicts what Blake is saying in her complaint according to people on the Internet. And I'm here to say, like, my thesis of today that could not be further from the truth. I have read a lot of the his is a lawsuit. Hers is a complaint. Yeah.

And by the way, a lot of people are like, well, if Blake was really the victim, she would have sued. Well, the thing is and and I saw a lawyer explain this because people don't know anything. So you're just, like, making stuff up. Like, why didn't Blake sue? Well, why don't you know the law?

Blake is suing in, like, a because he's her employer. It's like an employment lawsuit. And in order to do that, you have to get approved to sue. And in order to get approved to sue, you have to file a complaint. The court has 60 days to approve or deny you the right to sue.

So that's what she's doing. That's why she didn't sue. That's why she has a complaint. It's step 1 in her lawsuit. And then he sued, so everyone's like, look.

He can sue, so he's right.

Actually, she was taking the proper legal steps. Also, he's filing a lawsuit against the New York Times over the story that they wrote because they say that that story does not have the whole story. Mhmm. So he's rebutting a couple of those, like, heinous accusations that we stayed in, and this is this is just inside. So the accusation that he repeatedly entered her makeup trailer uninvited while she was undressed, including while she was breastfeeding.

He, he said that he like, she pumped a lot breastfed in meetings, and he invited her into her trailer when she was pumping in the past. So any, like, visibility that he had into her breastfeeding and pumping, like, was she was that was what was happening.

And the screenshot that's sort of sort of taken the Internet by storm is a text message from Blake to Justin basically saying they needed to meet about something. She was like, hey. I'm pumping in my trailer. Come on in. Yeah.

I'm coming in my trailer if

you wanna work out our lines. He responded, copy, eating with crew, and we'll head that way. So everybody says that this screenshot completely contradicts what Blake said. Blake said that he was entering when she was breastfeeding and pumping, and, look, here's literally proof that she invited him in. So to be clear, because I understand the English language, this in no way screenshot contradicts what Blake said.

First of all, just because you've been invited in 1 time does not give you unfettered access to my breasts and my trailer, first of all. 2nd of all, the difference between pumping and breastfeeding and I don't even I I've never done either, but even I know, like, breastfeeding your titties out. Pumping, you put the things on your nipples, and you can go for a walk. Like, you could do anything. So they're so different.

So inviting someone in while you're pumping is not an issue.

Breastfeeding in a public place like, say she was breastfeeding in a meeting, so it's like, oh, she had her titty out. Like, you can That's but then you're consenting. No. But, also, whether or not she had her boob out, like, you can breast you can know you're breastfeeding in public and and do it in a way that's covered up. But when you're breastfeeding in private, like, you don't care that you're out.

So, like, someone walking in on you breastfeeding in private is not gonna look the same as you knowingly doing it in public.

No. It's so true. I feel like a lot of women with, like, newborn babies who travel, they breastfeed on airplanes, and there's, like, you put that little thing over.

Yeah. Yeah.

It's it's you can breastfeed in public.

People breastfeed in public all the time, and and most more often than not, the way you breastfeed in public looks different than private.

Of course. And just because you've been invited in 1 time to see while she was pumping does not give you unfettered access. Like, you are still, a, a coworker, b, a male coworker, and, c, her boss. Like, everybody being like, oh, look. Blake's a liar.

Like, are are you thick in the head? No. Actually, this does not contradict at all, and I don't care how open. Let's say Blake was 1 of those women who didn't give a fuck. Tits out, nipples out.

You still, as the director, as the boss, as her coworker, and as a man, you still have to act with the utmost knock 5 times. I want you to knock 5 times. You still have to act I don't care how Blake and I don't even think Blake was that type of breastfeeder, but even if she was, like, you still have to act with some sort of decorum. Yeah.

So all in all, the lawsuit states that it was Blake who allegedly embarked on a strategic and manipulative smear campaign using false sexual harassment allegations to assert unilateral control over every aspect of the production. The lawsuit also accuses her husband, Rylem Reynolds, of allegedly berating Justin during a heated meeting at their Tribeca penthouse in New York in which she accused the director of fat shaming his wife. So, basically, what he's saying is that, like, there was this And, by the way, beef

by the way, before this lawsuit or anything, there was, like, a little bit of whispers about Blake and Ryan. 1 of the first things that came out was Justin inquiring a lot about Blake's weight. That was the first thing we had heard. So I I believe I believe this.

Yes. And I think what Justin would say to the he had, like, a back thing, and so he needed to know

inquiring because he has, like, a hernia, and he has to lift Blake and kiss her. So he needs to know exactly how much this woman weighs to and you know what? If you have to ask, you can't lift her. So why don't you just say, I am not strong enough, and let's cut that scene. You're the director.

Right. Then we didn't need a lift. This isn't dirty dancing. No. Seriously.

If your job requires you to ask a woman what she weighs, like, unless you're the doctor, you're in the long, like, that's just not what we're gonna do, especially given the context she just had a baby. And, like, she's you cast her for this role. You see her. You see what the it entails.

You're a

fucking director. You cast her. It's not like she's got, like, lead in her feet, Wait. Like, you can't see. Like, use your eyes.

Oh my god. Funny. Funny. That's funny. Yeah.

Lead shoes. She should have. That would have been funny. Okay. For me, the biggest part of this story and so many people like, this is their big thing about with the lawsuit is that, like, really, he has disproven everything when it comes to the intimacy coordinator.

And so I'm gonna read from my notes. I watched an amazing video, from, like, an intimacy coordinator expert. I just wanna shout her out because I'm, like, about to literally copy everything she said. It's a nice long 10 minute video. Her name is Brenna Perez.

Okay? So Blake has said that there wasn't an intimacy coordinator present. She said that in interviews, and I think she alleges it in her complaint as well. And Justin, you know, shows proof, like, what are you talking about? We had an intimacy coordinator.

But if you actually so that looks like a contradiction. Right? Blake's lying. But if you actually read, Justin actually corroborates a lot of what Blake is saying. So after the SAG AFTRA break, Blake had demanded that there be an intimacy coordinator on set at all times.

Usually, an intimacy coordinator just shows up on the days where we're fucking. You know? They don't need to be around all the time. But because Justin had, like, this obsession with adding in kisses and adding in sex scenes that weren't previously agreed to, Blake said, listen, if you're gonna do that, like, I want an intimacy coordinator on set every single day because who knows when you're gonna start kissing me? And she's totally valid in that.

And what I didn't realize that this girl explained in the video was, like, when you sign on to a project, every intimate scene, literally every kiss, but mostly like the sexy scenes, are agreed upon contractually before. So if you do wanna add, sometimes it happens. It complicates things, but it has to be agreed upon. But it's like you can't just go around like adding in an ass grab. You know?

It's not improv. Like these things, because of SAG and they have these rules in place, are to protect actors and actresses. So you can't just go around adding stuff. So the fact that Blake alleges that Justin really wanted to add stuff, like complicates things a lot. So him saying that there was a coordinator onset is, you know, not untrue, but it's half true because if you're kissing her on days when the lady's not there, who does that help?

Right. So after the SAG AFTRA break, they had agreed to have the coordinator on set full time. So Justin is like, she was there full time. What are you talking about? And he shares a text message.

Not only was she there, but I actually tried to coordinate a meeting between her and Blake, and Blake said no. So you read the text messages, and they're coming aft they're coming, off the break. So I think they're about to be back. And he says, by the way, I found an amazing coordinator. So first of all, it's a coordinator who he found.

I'd love to set I'd love to set up a meeting offset, like, not while they're on set. Like, I'd love to set up a meeting. And Blake's like, no. I'm good. I'll meet her when we're back on set first day.

So, look, Blake's being difficult. I don't know that she necessarily wanted to meet your coordinator. Like, how do we know she's legit after this SAG AFTRA break where this list of 30 things we agreed on, you've been showing me pornographic videos, your producing partner is a freak, all these things. Like, you add kissing scenes. I don't know that I wanna meet off camera.

I mean, excuse me, offset with you and your intimacy coordinator. So it's like, look. Blake's being difficult to work with. But then, also, the really interesting thing is Blake I mean, Justin alleges in his lawsuit that he wasn't adding all these sexy scenes. It was the intimacy coordinator's idea.

Now that is not the job of an intimacy coordinator. That's, like, actually really weird. So if that's true, like

Buy more work for her.

No. But let's say that's true.

More

hours. You hired a freaky ass intimacy coordinator because that's not her job. Why the fuck would Blake wanna meet this person? Right. And let's say it's not true.

You're the 1 adding those things, and you're a freak. But now now we understand why Blake said no to meeting with this intimacy coordinator. So she's putting forth all these sexy ideas that you didn't agree to, and that's not your job. It's not your job to meet with the intimacy coordinator offset. Like, you come up to work.

You showed you're not the director. Like, you are an actor. You show up and do your job. So so much of what he said, especially about the intimacy coordinator, actually validates Blake's complaint. I don't know what people are talking about.

Like, dead ass.

Yeah. Also, then the situation so there's all these, like, things that happened, disputes, but then there's also this larger thing of, like, there were 2 different cuts of the movie. Blake, like, made her own movie. And, like, I just think that the disputes, like, they go so like, the they could go back and forth all day. And, also, like, Blake's alleging, like, sexual harassment.

I think Justin is saying, like, those things weren't sexual harassment, and then, like, people are, like, aren't you the male feminist? Like, how are you gonna tell a woman, like, what sexual like, it's so messy. It is so messy. There are a lot

of things in the complaint that don't personally interest me. Like, it's

a lot of he said she No. I don't understand. It's a lot

of he said, she said. It's not illegal to have 2 different cuts of a movie. Like, does that

make Blake look different? No.

No. No. But, like, when it comes down to, like, the actual allegations, that interests me more than, like, well, Blake said I had my cut, and Justin said I I'm like, I give a fuck.

No. I know it doesn't interest us, but, like, they are germane to the whole story. So I'm just saying, like, the whole story is so much bigger. And then in this complaint, Justin is saying that Blake was going to, you know, come out with these sexual harassment allegations. That's why he hired that PR firm that then Grassroots.

Grassroots did all that. Now he looks bad for doing that, but, you know, he's like, well, she was gonna do it to me. So it's like him or her.

But you did the thing first. Right. Like, you being afraid of retribution for something you actually did, like, that's called crime and punishment. Okay? Right.

No. No. I have not changed my side even in the slightest. No.

No. Me neither. She got

the Now she's going

back to, like, the original. I feel like it's just, like, when people are choosing sides, like, they're choosing a difference of, like, the 2 personalities. Some people just, like, want Justin Baldoni to be this, like, male hero that they

think that he's hot.

And they, like, see all this shit that he says and does, and they're like, oh, I love. And, like, for me, that's just, like, not my not for me.

That's not how I see Justin Baldoni. His, like, charms have not worked on me.

Right. So I think these are, like, 2 people who were not going to get along, who were in, like, a really crazy environment where they're having to, like, do all these things. They're both have their own things that they're worried about, him and his back, her and her breastfeeding. Mhmm. And it's a recipe for fucking disaster.

And it doesn't change how I see the situation because what they did to her with all the meeting campaign and offset. And offset. Like yeah. I don't know.

I will like, if if, let's say, you know, the truth comes out and Blake concoct, I will never really I I won't look back and regret having believed her. Like, what she first of all, there is a lot of proof that supports her claims. There are a lot of people who support her claims, and her claims are really disturbing. Not only, like, the the astroturfing, which is now something we all know about and should be really conscious of.

Which, by the way, thanks for I'm glad that we know that. I'm glad she knew that.

Denying that, by the way, which is even crazier. But the fact that all of the things between the birthing scene and the adding sexual scenes and being really inappropriate from the so called male feminist, like, I don't know. I'm sorry. I I I believe Blake. I really do, and, yeah, she's probably a bitch.

Like, Dwight, I

don't give a fuck. Right. Like, doesn't mean that you had to like, you hired she's an a list actress. Like, you wanted the biggest name in romantic comedy.

Diva Diva Diva. That's what you got. Yeah. Like,

I'm sorry. And that is not

the time to talk about, you know,

ruining our favorite fucking book because now this book is ruined. The movie is ruined. I never saw the movie, and I'm never going to because I haven't even watched the movie.

What are we doing with the sequel?

Well, there is no sequel. It's over. You guys ruined it. Let's see if there is

no tour.

Ever gets another movie in her life. What a mess. And the thing is, like, nobody sometimes things are, like, dramatic and, like, don't worry, darling, whereas, like, helps the hype of the movie, but, like, nobody wants to touch this. Apparently, like, even at the Golden Globes won, it

should've been nominated for best blockbuster. Office and cinematic achievement.

And they should have been there, and I think Blake and Ryan were gonna go to the Golden Globes and then didn't. Like, this thing is so messy. And Nikki Glaser said she wouldn't even joke about it because nobody nobody even knows, like, what is true, who's the villain. Like, it's just a mess. You guys ruined the fun for everyone.

We were so excited about this movie. We've been talking about it for years, and this is where we ended up. I And I think as far as ruining the movie, like, I blame him. He was Yeah. The director.

He was the star. He casted it.

Up until this point, I stand by everything I've said. And if I'm wrong, then so be it. I really don't think I'm wrong. I'm not and I'm not I'm not not changing my opinion because I don't wanna have said I admit I was wrong all the time. Remember when I thought Travis Kelsey was never gonna be close to Taylor Swift?

I was like, I can admit when I'm wrong. I am even more certain that Justin Baldoni is a bad faith actor.

And this like, now the 2 suits for me kind of, like, knock each other out. And I go back to how I felt, not entirely, but I'm just, like, back to how I felt in the summer where it's like, I just I'm with her.

I'm with her. She said in her complaint shook like, really genuinely shook me to my core, like, as a as a woman. Yeah. And everything in his complaint, whiny little bitch, you're not denying the astroturfing. You're not denying that meeting you had during the SAG astro strike coming to terms and agreeing on 30 things you're gonna stop doing.

You actually admitted that in your suit. You admitted to not having an intimacy coordinator on set all the time, which you should have if you're adding in sex scenes. So you admitted in that that they're, like, they're he's literally admitting guilt. I don't know what the hell people are reading. Like, I am I'm sad.

Like, I I will be here. My opinion has not changed. And and if your opinion has, like, you obviously haven't read it, or, b, you didn't really wanna believe Blake before, and now you have a reason not to.

I feel like for people, like, his lawsuit counters her lawsuit and kind of explains every charge that they felt like they needed to be mad about. So then they also go back to how they were feeling this summer, and they're with him.

Yeah. But if you actually read it, it it does not contradict hers at all. If anything, it supports a lot of her claims and, corroborates her timeline. Yeah. It's crazy.

Yeah. So I'm sad. So

our next story, Golden Globes.

Oh, I'm I have so many Golden Globes songs.

I know.

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Okay. Last night, Golden Globes. We've got the winners. We've got the moments. Let's get into it.

You wanna start with winners, and then we'll shoot off from there? No. Let's start with

Nikki Glaser. Love that. So I think we all knew she was gonna crush. If you've been following Nikki Glaser's career, like, she hasn't, like, become enormous for lack of talent. It's really been lack of opportunity.

But anytime she gets hired for something, like, she fucking crushes it. And I think a lot of people saw that with the Tom Brady roast, and that's largely why she got this gig. It's the first time a woman has ever hosted solo, so there was a lot of pressure. The fact that, like, there's so many successful female comedians, but we're rotating the jimmies. Like, how was a woman never done?

Oh, but the 1 time they gave it to a woman,

they said

they gave it 3 women. Amy Schumer. Remember she did it with 2 other women?

By the way, I'd be fine if they rotated the Jimmy's and it was good. You know? And it was great, and it was great, but it's not been. And so it was Nikki Glaser's turn.

And I think there was even more eyes because of the Jo Koy of it all last year, like, which really was floppy o.

0 my god. I forgot about that.

And that was the same thing. I remember saying how disappointing it was. Like, 1, because it just wasn't funny, but, 2, because, like, this is a comedian who's not huge. Right? So this is a global platform.

Like, it would have been such an amazing opportunity if he had crushed it, and it sucks that he didn't for it sucks for him.

And it and it kind of hurts people who aren't the biggest comedians to ever do it again. They're not gonna take a chance on someone. And they did. Even though Nikki

Glaser is, like, not really taking a chance. She's the biggest female comedian right now. No. But it's Steph tells

a new comparison

to, like, Kevin Hart. Right. So to see her, absolutely crushed. Like, I thing is I would've liked it regardless because I happen to really like her. She's been on this show.

Yeah. She's incredibly nice.

You might have been biased in your review. However, this is not biased.

No. And, like, I have such I really only have positive things to say about Nikki Glaser, like, having, met her in person. And she's been so nice to me. Anytime I've been in a room with her, she's been the most famous person in the room, like a lot of other female comics, and she's always the nicest 1. I can't say enough good things about her.

And then she came on our show right after the Tom Brady roast. She could've canceled because she was having this moment. She was on every show in America, and she came on the toast. Like, I just I fucking love her. So I would've I would've loved it regardless, but let me tell you, I laughed.

She crushed.

Should I laugh? Ben was dying the Sandler, chalamet thing was his favorite. We were

laughing so hard to tell her. For that. We got so much Kylie because she gave us so much Timothy, and I thought that bit with Adam Sandler and Timothy was just, like, funny. It's like we're not making fun of everyone. Like, it's just a funny moment.

People really struggle between, like, being so soft and not saying anything. And then also you could go, like, you know, I'm gonna rip into everyone in this room, which is gonna kill. And if if you're funny about it, but, like, to find the medium where it's, like, we're gonna talk about everything and also be funny while not, like, being nasty. She was so good, but also talking about certain elephants in the room roasting the celebrities at large. I loved when she said, like, we could be living through history.

Like, we could be watching these clips in 5 days being, like, they got the guy. It's so true, and I think

that was her greatest skill was the way she towed the line of, you know, mock that you were mocking these people and not I would say, there's literally only 1 person who can successfully do, like, a full roast, and that's Ricky Gervais.

Right.

And then you go too soft, and you're not funny. So I think her balance of, like, you know, pointing out, like, a lot of the hypocrisy in the room, these, like, fancy artists, storytellers, like, people like, it was so brilliant while also, like, being funny. Like, it was just the thing is, I don't care what you do. If you make me laugh, that's literally all I care about. She was brilliant.

There were so many jokes that were so funny. 2 time Holocaust survivor, Adrienne Brody, like, actually killed me. Like, so funny and, like, yeah, a little edgy, but not offensive.

No. Not at all. Her saying Betty Blanco was here because of the genie who granted him that

wish thing. So funny. So funny. Like, she just and she was so well rehearsed. And I heard her, she was being interviewed by Zuri Hall, and she was like, I had practiced the monolog.

I counted 96 times. And she's like, I know people are gonna be like, well, it's scripted. It's scripted. She's like, no. I just wanna be comfortable enough that, like, I can riff and also not be, like, reading straight from the teleprompter.

Hello. Welcome to the Golden Globes. And I felt that. I felt her sense of comfort. Like, she knew what the joke was gonna be, and then you saw her, like, not looking at the teleprompter, riffing on her own joke.

Like, she she was brilliant. Like, she made me so, like, she made me laugh so hard. She made me she I just I fucking loved it.

No. And she could also tell she was so comfortable. She, like, didn't care if the people in the room were gonna find her funny, which I think they I don't even know if they did because I wasn't paying attention to them either. Like, it was like she knew she was talk like, working for us, the viewer. Like, that's a hard part.

For us. You know, she wasn't, like, like, Jo Koy. Like, you're gonna laugh or tough crowds. Like, she was literally ignoring everyone in the room, which is the most important room in in her field Yeah. And just really catering to the viewers at home.

And you could tell she felt really comfortable. She felt, like, so cool. Like, it was, like, cool girl comment. Relaxed. No.

By the

way, that's an amazing point because the job is hard because you're obviously performing stand up in a room full of, like, a 1000 people, but it's like those a 1000 people literally do not matter. It's the people at home. And Joe Coy's big fault was, like, him making jokes, and it didn't get huge laughs in the room. So if you were doing that in a comedy club, you'd be like, what's wrong with you guys? And he was doing it, and it's like, no.

Stop. Like, that's not the point.

Right. Well, also, it's like, in this moment, the a 1000 people in the room don't matter. You're playing to us, but those people matter for your career. So, like, you have to tow that line too of not pissing them off. And I thought she just did it brilliantly.

And she looked at the host everything. Everything. We got, like, so many Lukes, which is always fun for the girls. Yes.

She had the glamor. She had everything. Like,

seriously? She like, I felt like she was having fun, which typically everyone talks about this job, but the hosting job is, like, the most thankless job. It's so dreadful. It's like you don't pass it up because it's a good opportunity, but nobody wants to do it. Like, she was happy to be there.

And I feel like there's been a lot of discourse ever since Joan Rivers died. Like, who's the next Joan? Right? And it felt like, you know, everybody sort of gave it to Kathy Griffin, and then they took it back. And we've just sort of been, like, waiting.

And, honestly, after last night, like, that was a, I think, a a performance Joan Rivers would have liked. Yeah.

I'm gonna go back and watch some stuff. Again, I feel like as we talk about people, I'll remember jokes that she made because it was Parge.

It was brilliant. I hope I hope this blows up her career, like, tenfold. Any op like, she should be getting the same opportunities as, like, Kevin Hart and Chris Rock. Like, she is fucking funny. She works hard, and she writes her own jokes.

Like, you can tell she, like, workshopped them a 1000000 times. I I I can't I can't remember a time where I've had nothing negative to say.

Nothing. Yeah. I actually overall thoughts on the Golden Globes, though. I watched the whole thing, which is tells you everything you need to know. Usually, I watch every award show because, like, that's what we do, and then I turn it off when it either offends me or seriously bores me, and I'm like, this is a bad use of my time.

I watch till the end. I watch them getting up out of their chairs. Not to say that I loved it so much. My only issue with the show was I felt like every mostly, like, 90% of the awards went to the wrong people. Not that I saw any of the movies.

I just wanna say it was just vibes.

Based on vibes?

Just vibes and, like, knowing the actors and seeing some of the reviews. Like, I think Emilia Perez won a lot of awards. Like, the things that I've seen about that movie, not only the Spanish speaking debacle, which we discussed, which I thought would make it, like, take it out of the running of seriousness. The reviews are like, I've just seen people being like, no. No.

No. The movie is so bad. So much so that I actually wanna watch it just to make sure, but, you know, my time is precious. Same. But what I've also heard, and

I would love, like, our Mexican tostadas to speak on this from my community, what I've heard is, like, the fact that they made a film about this particular story is so offensive to Mexican culture. They say they say it's like I I don't know I don't know if this was an exaggeration, but I saw a tweet that was like, it's the equivalent of, like, making a sympathetic, like, backstory to the 911, like, doers. Wow. Like I so I don't I don't know I don't even know who Emilia Perez is, and, like, I would love for the Mexican Tostadas. Please sound off in the comments.

Like, are you offended the fact that this movie was even created? That's the exact request. Telling a story. At a French director with, like, no real ties to the Mexican culture and, like, you know, you know, 1 of the characters doesn't even speak Spanish. Like, beyond that, like, the actual the execution, the sheer concept of it, I believe, is quite controversial.

That is so funny. I didn't even know that. All I I keep getting, like, piecemeal information about this movie, of course, the Spanish speaking controversy, which I really thought would take it out of contention. Like, that kind of that's, like, inauthenticity. We're we don't do that.

You know? So I was shocked that it won so many things. And, of course, I I didn't see it, and I've heard bad things. So I was like, oh, maybe not. But here, let's go through the Before

we dive into the winners, can we just quickly do red carpet? Sure. Now I don't need to go through everyone's looks. Like, everyone was actually well dressed with the exception of Kerry Washington. Like, she actually, like, looked so ugly, and I couldn't believe that that she decided to wear that.

Like, and it was Balenciaga. Like, obviously, when you wear Nicole Kidman also wore Balenciaga, which was enormously disappointing. But let me say,

like, this is undeniable. It was undeniable. Things can

be true. It was such an unbelievably beautiful dress, and and it really it looked amazing on her. So I could see how she struggled with that decision. Like, damn. Do I go for, like, the good dress or or the moral compass?

Like and I know she's a spokesperson for Balenciaga, so she has to wear, same with Kerry Washington. But the fact that Kerry Washington, like, knew she was gonna get shit and decided to wear something so ugly, like Yeah. What what for what? You know? Yeah.

But I was watching E, and this is the first big award show where they gave Laverne Cox the boot. And I think the consumers and the watchers and the viewers have, you know, been kind of requesting that for some time. They really tried to make it work, but I noticed, like, a big shift where Zuri Hall, who is this, like, OG entertainment journalist who's been with E for a really long time and doesn't necessarily always get these opportunities, she was given the prime spot. She was talking to most of the stars, and then Heather was on, another like, I think on the longer red carpet with the microphones, and Kelty was at the front. So it was kind of like Zuri's moment, which I thought was great because we're always talking about, like, the lack of, like, entertainment journalists on the carpet.

And I know it's important to, like, involve, you know, other people. And that's why we're always saying, like, Kelty is so great. And Heather's so funny, so, like, it's really great balance. But the fact that they gave Zuri the main stage, I think, was really well deserved. Like, she's been at the network for so many years.

I feel like she's always kind of, like, getting the boot, and I love that.

I saw a bit of E Red Carpet, and every interview that I saw, like, no awkward moments, like, no butt clenching. I I feel like the flow of conversation is, like, so hard in those moments, and, like, that's what makes someone really great. And I thought everyone that I saw did a really good job, and, like, every it was just conversation. And and the the talent was having fun, and they felt comfortable. And the hosts, like Heather and Zuri, like, they just did a really good job.

So much so, like, I shouldn't have so many thoughts on on the actual dialog. You know? Yeah. And Zuri is We should be, like, making fun of what the celebrity answers are. Let's get back to those times.

Zuri is so beautiful, but what I really noticed is, like, everyone who got on stage was, like, kind of dazzled by her. They're like, Jamie Foxx? Yes. Yeah. Oh my god.

You look beautiful. Like, I don't know a time where, like, the talent has complimented the host so frequently. I feel like she probably got a date last night. She better. Well, I mean, she did date Travis, so

I know. A lot of people forget that. I was gonna mention it, but, like, I just I didn't want it to, like, eclipse everything she did last night. You know? Now we can go for the winner.

Sorry. Oh, but the fashion. Did you wanna talk about the fashion on the red carpet or just the carpet itself?

Just the Balenciaga and then the carpet. Like, because I'm always talking about the entertainment journalists. Like, just as for people who study entertainment journalism, like, good luck getting a job.

Yeah. So backwards, Tafo, is best motion picture, musical, or comedy? So in the Oscars, this is 1 category, best motion picture. At the Gold Globes, it's 2. We have best motion picture, musical, or comedy, and that went to Emilia Perez.

It's, It's, like, really crazy, just given what I know about the film.

Yeah. I didn't see any of the other movies except for wicked, and I don't think wicked should have won for this. I love wicked, and it's the only movie that I saw. But, like, you know, I can I acknowledge that, like, other movies could be the best in this category? Anora, Challenger's A Real Pain, and the Substance.

Also, have you been seeing, like, the

drama with Anora? I never heard of Anora until last night.

So that very beautiful girl who, is Anora. She has done a bunch of interviews so that there wasn't an intimacy coordinator on set. And it's just like it's kinda weird. And she talks about it in a positive way. She's like, but everybody made me feel so.

But why? Literally, why? Is it not a SAG production? Where the fuck is SAG?

I don't know. But, also, then do, like, smaller budget productions, like, have to cut corners on stuff like that? Bitch, I don't give a fuck.

Like, get rid of craft services.

I'm like, I'm imagining it's like an indie movie.

I don't think it is.

Get rid of craft services. Starve? Casting for lighting? I'm sorry. You guys gotta

other corners. You could cut other corners.

Yeah. Next, most best motion picture drama went to the brutalist, which was the Adrien Brody movie, which, from the awards show, 2 things emerged that I wanna maybe watch that I added to my plate, The brutalist and Shogun. I think I would start with Shogun. I think I would like that the best.

I love to see Adrian Brody, like, out and about. I feel like he doesn't really leave his house a lot, and seeing him with his lady love, Georgina Chapman.

But, yeah, that I will never get over that. I need more jokes about Adrian Brody at award shows so that I could get more eyes on Adrienne and Georgina. And when he won, I was like, is he gonna mention and it's so crazy because, like, she's Harvey Weinstein's ex wife for those who don't know. But she's also the Freedom director of Marchesa. Like, she's a very accomplished woman.

She's so beautiful, and she went from Harvey And she's, like, an age appropriate, like, get and she went from Harvey

And she's, like, an age appropriate, like, get for him. It's it's literally a perfect match. I could've I just wish she was Jewish. Like, that's it, but I'll get over it.

She went from Harvey to Adrianne, so she's, like, loving life.

And then Seriously, she deserves peace.

And not only did he say, like, shout out to Georgina, like, he gave her such a glowing

They've been together for a while now.

Together 3 years now, and I just I really, really ship. So looks like it's about some architect who emigrated Jewish, who emigrated from Hungary to the US and built his career. It's a 3 and a half hour movie, though, so you know Trudy's not

seeing it. 1 thing about Adrian Brody, like, he is going to tell the story of our people. I love him.

No. I seriously love him so much. So is

now an appropriate time to tell the story about the time I was seated next to Adrian Brody at a dinner party, and I had absolutely no idea who he was. Jackie looked so different. And I got seated next to him, and I was like, what do you do? He's like, I'm an artist. And I guess that's, like, what an actor would say.

He said I'm an artist, so I thought he, like, painted. I'm like, oh, like sculptures or painting? And he was like, both. And then he left.

That is so funny. It was a humble British actress. I think he referenced it last night in his acceptance speech because he said, like, a few years ago, like, I thought I was done. And there was a that was a theme, and I love when this happens. Like, Demi Moore won best actress.

And she's been a working actress for 40 years, and she's never won an award like this. So, like, I that reminded me of Jennifer Coolidge when, like, someone just gets their shine in their moment. And then for Adrian Brody,

I'm like She hadn't won.

I'm like, right. Exactly. I'm like, if Adrian Brody felt like the like, he couldn't act anymore, like, who can? No. It's so true.

I loved Demi Moore speech. Me as well. And I won't watch her movie with Margaret Qualley, but it looks, like, interesting.

I actually think I might watch it. I I I found myself being really dazzled by Margaret Qualley last night. I know her, obviously,

is 1 of my best dressed.

Me too. And I saw a lot of, like, hate for her dress. I guess she, like, wears a lot of, like, boring Chanel looks a lot because she's a Chanel face.

Seriously goals. Yeah.

Like, I thought she looked so gorgeous. Her hair and makeup was sick. She I thought she was dazzling, and I I was actually like, I I think her interview with Zuri, like, left the biggest impact on me. I was like, oh my god. I love this girl.

I could actually see her, like, hanging out with Taylor and being a swirly. Up until this point, I I thought she was, like, kind of serious. I don't know. And, like, her and Jack are, like, kinda granola.

They just Sit down the pit.

I don't know. Yeah. They just looked like kinda, like, like, people I wouldn't hang out with. You know? Yeah.

But then I saw her personality.

Is that that swir attitude?

She has that swir attitude. And then you should remember she's Andie MacDowell's daughter. Like, I know these things don't just happen.

I know, but it's just like you said about Paige. Like, when you're Andie MacDowell's daughter and that you're you're that gorgeous and talented, like, do you also have to have a busting personality? No. No. But she's a really interesting example because she's obviously like

a Nepo baby where what are we calling Nepo babies who, like, so far eclipse their parents in stardom? Because I think I and I think Margaret Qualley is more famous than Andy McDowell has ever been.

And I think that when we have the Nepo baby conversation and we talk about people who only got to where they got because of their parents and not for their talent, we also need to talk about this category of person. Like, even Gwyneth Paltrow.

Right. Yes. Similar to Margaret Qualley, I feel like is Maya Hawke. I think she gets, like, a lot of the Nepo baby combo. Ethan Hawke and, what, Kira Sedgwick's No.

Keira Sedgwick is, Kevin Bacon.

Literally, same thing. Okay. I'm a Thurman. Hawk Swipe. Yes.

Actually, yes. So she, to me, is, like, classic Nepo. You know? She's, like, in stuff. She's not, like, you know, rocking, and especially she's not even close to her parents' level.

But Margaret Qualley is really Yeah.

A list Oscar nominated, really kinda making moves. Making moves. Best motion picture animated went to Flow. Best cinematic and box office achievement went to Wicked, which is the award that it should win if it is going to in any award. And they added it last year, I think, for Barbie.

Yeah. So we got

to have our Wicked moment. Yeah. Cynthia and Ariana both lost, and John Chu wasn't nominated for director. And it definitely felt like because we have to think about how far the Golden Globes has come. Like, the fact that we're all talking about, and I think a lot of people watched it, when a few years ago, it actually was taken off air.

And the Golden Globes Association was on the verge of shutting down. And then people in Hollywood lobbied to get it back. So I think that they're very conscious of remaining upper tier, upper echelon, artsy cinematic. And to give out any awards to a movie like Wicked that had such commercial success, I feel like they're afraid to do. And so, yes, they obviously won this category, but this category is meaningless, honestly.

Like, it's And I actually even though Wicked was really the only piece

of work that I saw in the entire show, so you would think I should think it should win everything. They didn't even need this. It's nice that the girls were nominated so that they could go to the show and Wicked could be included in these conversations, but it's like, I'm okay without Wicked have like, or if Barbie hadn't had that moment. Like, you know, you made all the money. Enjoy that.

These people have a statue.

I just feel like Golden Globes is, like, afraid to engage with Wicked because it's considered, like, lowbrow in commercial. So if there was an award show that they weren't gonna get any awards, it was gonna be this 1. But I think, like, Ariana and Cynthia, like, definitely have a chance at winning other

more You think so?

Prestigious. I do. Like, I don't think the Oscars give a fuck if somebody from a commercially successful film wins.

Why do you feel like the Golden Globes is more artistic than the Oscars?

It's not more artistic, but I feel like they had they're more, afraid because they were, like, literally taken off air. Nobody was listening. And they were all largely for many years, like, considered, like, loser y because they did TV and film. And they are now, like, making a comeback. And so they're more protective of their brand, thus not wanting to engage.

And that's why they had a stupid category made for Wicked so they don't have to give it to give the the prestigious awards to to the movies like Wicked.

By the way, I think the fact that it's TV and film is what makes it a really good award show now because, like, to us, it's the same thing. I don't know which of these is a movie, which of these is a show. And we get to cover more categories. We get to see more people, and the Oscars then kind of feels like half of this because TV is movies now. It's all the same.

I agree. And that's I love Nikki Glaser said that in a very funny way just being, like, the big movie stars are here, Colin Farrell and x and the big TV stars, Colin Farrell. It's actually amazing. And I think for so long, like, TV was looked down upon, and that's largely why, like, the Golden Globes have had, like, kind of a kataki sort of vibe

to them. They're coming up with television.

When you think about what people are actually watching, when you're thinking about what's actually making money, like, it's TV. Yeah. It is. And it's like these miniseries. Like, when I think I look at Anya Taylor Joy, she's, like, 1 of the she's, like, a movie star.

Right? She started, sorry, bitch, Queen's Gambit. Like, that

was a TV show. She is the Queen's Gambit. Yeah.

She'll never not be Beth Horan. That will never name.

That will never not be, like, the single greatest piece of art that we've been given as consumers. I tend to agree. Yeah. I wanna watch it again. Best motion picture, non English language, Emilia Perez, France.

So make it make sense. Right. Best performance by a female actor in a motion picture drama, Fernando Fernando Torres, I'm still here. That's a big category, and I'm not I did not know her. Me neither.

Best performance by a male actor in a motion picture drama, our boyfriend, Adrien Brody, the brutalist. The only reason why, like, I would have liked to see Timothee Chalamet win is to see if he would thank his lady love.

But someone needs to tell both Timothee and Club Chalamet that, like, that movie's winning no awards. I can't believe he was even nominated. I have heard not 1 thing, good or bad, but just even worse.

The movie came out. It's gotten nom like, enough time has passed for it to be in the nominations because I feel like we're still talking about them filming, and he's seen on the streets with a guitar case.

No. I didn't even know it came out. Like, that's how nobody moved. Yeah. Best Let me just say something, Jackie, because we're nearing on 90 minutes.

Your cards are still running?

My cards are still running. Just good. Good. Good. Okay.

Best performance by a female actor in a motion picture musical or comedy to me more of the substance, which I thought was such a great moment.

I thought it was a great moment. I I I do wanna see that movie, and I thought she made such a great speech about, like, you know, being told her whole career. Because when you think about Demi, you obviously think like, yeah, blockbuster. And you think of it as a good way as a good way. But I didn't know it was, like, this thing that was sort of beating her that she got beat down with by people in the industry being like, you'll never be serious.

Go make another blockbuster popcorn movie. And this and when we talk about her resurgence, I really feel like we cannot talk about it without talking about Landman? Brad Goresky's impact. What? Yes.

Oh, I feel like so much of Demi Moore. He's our stylist, and, like, I think he's a new stylist. And I think that people really started paying attention to Demi, like, last year when she was, like, looking really good and hot. And I saw all these Brad Goresky, like, stylist videos. And I feel like so much of her comeback obviously has to do with the work that she did, but also, like, the the pussy she's popping.

And I think Brad Goresky only started working with her. Like, I I it feels like a year ago, and it was like this huge impact, kind of how we all, like, were looking at Lindsay Lohan being like, damn, girl. What are you doing? It felt like it had a Lindsay vibe to it.

She had a damn girl moment. She had a glow up. Yeah. I missed all that, but I'm happy to be here now. And she's also in land man, so it just feels like she's pounding the pavement.

Land man's on my plate.

Oh, and Billy Bob Thornton was there. Billy Bob Thornton. So was Angelina.

Dude, that was weird. Crazy. I know. That's really crazy. Best performance by a male actor in a motion picture, musical or comedy, Sebastian Stan, a different man.

Best performance by female actor in a sporting role motion picture, Zoe Saldanha, Emilia Perez, which was exciting for her. It's the same Demi Moore vibe. I love her.

I don't know anything about the movie. I love Zoe. She was so emphatic in her speech. I was like, oh my god. She really wanted this.

Oh, wait. I forgot about that.

Yeah. She was, like, really zealous, and it must mean a lot to her, for a multitude of reasons. But pop off queen, center stage is a hit.

And then best TV series, Shogun. So I think I'm watching Shogun.

Yeah. Ben will not, like, let me rest until we watch it.

Oh, okay. Great. Maybe we could, like, do it together. Yeah. Best TV series, musical, or comedy, Hacks.

Always a good choice.

Love to see Jean Smart and Hacks, like, constantly getting their flowers. Like, it's just an a good safe choice.

By the way, best TV limited series, baby reindeer, which I need to know your thoughts.

He won? He won. She won, and oh, no. No. She won, and the show won.

Yes. I have to say, I actually agreed that she should have won. She was excellent. Even though I didn't like the show, I felt it was, like, really dark. Not necessarily that it's a bad show, but it was not the right show for me.

Right. I thought she was an excellent actress, and it was her first big break. And I'm happy she won. He won, and then he gave this really weird speech about stories that dark never get made, and we need to get comfortable being uncomfortable. And And I just feel like that's literally not true.

Like, you know, we are so uncomfortable. Everything that we are watching is making us uncomfortable. Like, please bring back just, like, regular, degular bright shows. And Liz Woods was posting about this too, and and that's always what I say. Everything that I watch, like, makes is just, like, depressing and dark, and that's not how I wanna feel.

The thing that isn't, though, is reality TV, and I think that's why when I have a chance to watch TV, I watch a lot of reality TV. It's just, like, fun. Can we bring back fun? And I think that's why people love movies like Wicked and Barbie movie where it's just, like, bright and fun and, like, not everything has to be dark all the time. These things are supposed to be an escape

a 1000%. Now having said that, like, the actual story of baby reindeer is so crazy and the fact that it happened to this guy. And it was, like, this really fucking, like, life altering event, and he decided to, like, turn it into art. Like, that's a beautiful story, and and I'm happy for him.

But what the event is. He was stalked?

He had a crazy stalker. And when when when they they were, like, sharing fun facts last night that people would win.

That was the sideline reporters was a crazy touch. And the fun facts?

But the fun facts were not fun. However, 1 of the fun facts I did find interesting was that, like, when he was stalked because emails were, like, a huge part of the the show and, like, his stalking. He was sent over the however long period of time, 41,000 emails by this crazy lady who is now suing Netflix, by the way, for, like, you know, telling her story in a way that she didn't approve. Okay. The stalker, the real the girl stalker.

Let the court stuke it out. Mhmm. More? You want more?

Not really.

Okay. Like, you got the gist. It was fine.

They're watching or you didn't. Ariana said they lost. Like, that was for me, like, big.

Yeah. It kicks off award season, so we'll have, like, more of this. And it it was totally fine, which is, like, that's the headline. It was totally fine.

I just wanna say I don't every time I watch the Golden Globes, I'm really shocked that Steve Martin and Martin Short get nominated every year, and they never win. And having just recently

watched because how could you pick 1? Who would you pick?

Martin Short. He is so fucking funny. Having just recently watched a new season, and I don't think all the seasons have been amazing. I think the first was good. The second I think the first was great.

The second was good. The third was bad. The 4th was great. I I, like, I when will they win? And, seriously, Martin Short deserves it.

Give it to Marty.

They'll probably win in their last season. That's what they like to do.

Yeah. On their way out.

Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Totally switching gears. Yes. Because love is in the air perchance.

Molly Mae and Tommy Fury were spotted kissing on New Year's Eve 5 months after they split. So right now, it's actually, like, high time for Molly May fans. I I'm wearing maybe today. That's just a complete coincidence. It's a fun fact about you.

Her docuseries is coming out in 2 short weeks. It's all about maybe the Tommy split, the Molly of it all, but now they're spotted kissing on New Year's Eve. Like, what does this mean? Was what he did forgivable? Why were we all under the assumption it wasn't?

Because it's not. But we don't even

know what he did.

Yeah. We do. Because just the son of a creepy girl. That girl. Did you see that?

Just 1 person's story.

By the way, I think I sent you a video of that girl talking about her dirty underwear.

Yeah. And how

did Claudia. Jackie, the girl's fucking disgusting. Claudia.

So the fact that Tommy was willing to literally throw his entire beautiful life away, not that, you know, he would should do it for anyone, but this girl in particular.

Wanna say, I am also, like, not believing that girl at face value.

You're holding space for her being a liar?

She looks like a big fat liar, like, 1 of the most morally bankrupt people I've ever witnessed on my phone.

But we do know that he did cheat. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't think he didn't cheat. But, anyway, so we don't know exactly what happened. She literally dropped him in a day. It was that bad, and now she is kissing him on New Year's Eve. Now is it just, like, a a friendly nostalgic kiss?

What brought them to the same party?

Right. I am holding space for trusting my fave. Right? I know Molly is gonna make the best decision for her and her family, but I'm really struggling because at the end of the day, I don't believe that infidelity is the end all be all for every relationship. I think people really can change, and people can work through it.

And it's really, really hard. Having said that, and this is based on information, yes, from that girl. So I may be working with false information, but what she had said was that he she was a 3rd or 4th girl Tommy had sex with that night. And, you know, yeah. So Here's the thing.

Every every like, then Tommy would be suing her.

His gestation. I guess. I don't believe that girl at face value. Not at all. However, maybe everything she's saying is a lie?

But, like, what, maybe there's a a percentage of truth. But what if say this. What if Tommy has a a drinking problem? Not to slander him, but don't worry. I'll I'll we'll we'll work through it.

What if Tommy has a really bad drinking problem when he gets drunk and he sleeps with 4 or 5 girls in 1 night? And now he in the last 5 months, like, he is seriously gone, or he have gotten sober. And, like, when he doesn't drink, that doesn't happen. Could you take him back? Well, not you, but, like, could Molly.

If if he's not gonna drink again, it would not happen again. Say.

No. I I I actually I think that, like, that is even harder

for her

to deal with with a newborn.

I did. I will

not a newborn. Allegedly. Yeah. Right.

Let me just throw it

out in. I don't I don't think so. Also, I don't I don't know that he an alcoholic because when you're in, like, an

athlete I'm just presenting I'm just presenting a theory that would show you how there could be a path forward just to say that there would be paths, not that that's the 1.

I'm torn between, like, wanting a family to come together and, like, reunite while also, like, men who behave like this, like, absolutely need to be punished. Harsher punishment for parole violators. You know?

Yeah. Yeah. I just I really do trust my fave on this. I trust Molly.

I know. So I'm also sometimes you need to learn a lesson, like, 3 or 4 times before it sticks. That happens a lot with people who, you know, get back together with sort of serial cheaters. Now we don't know if he's a serial cheater. It was something that happened 1 time, very Steve Brady esque.

Like, do you think Miranda should've taken back Steve?

Yes. But I think she was totally valid in literally taking a whole ass year and getting a new apartment. Like, he needed to learn his lesson. Like, people need to be taught.

Yeah. Well, I I'm gonna wait for the docuseries because I do imagine she will tell us what happened in the docuseries. Otherwise, like, why film a docuseries at this moment in time? You know? Yeah.

I know she's also doing it for a clothing brand, but, like, I feel like that would be the right safe form for her to share. Leave an oral you know, paint a Yeah. Paint a a vague abstract picture. I don't need to know the details. I mean Yeah.

I would like to, but this

is tough. I I'm gonna we're always saying to trust your faves, and, like, this is a practical application of policy. And I'm trusting my I'm struggling.

I'm trusting my fave, and when I do that, this makes me happy. You know what I mean? Because my fave

I'm having a hard time seeing him as anything other than, like, slimy and gross these days. That's that's where I'm coming from.

Yeah. But but Molly wouldn't kiss someone slimy and gross.

You love who you love. Love is blind.

Love who you love.

And don't envy me.

So happy New

Year. Time because

also that I feel like for Tommy and Molly and I don't feel this way about Paige and Craig, surprisingly, when I look in inward. I feel like for Tommy and Molly, like, there's no 1 else for either of them.

It'll never be over. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like, I don't see Molly with the next guy. Like, it's her and Tommy, and I don't see Tommy with the next girl. But I don't know. Maybe I'm just maybe it's not even them in the picture.

Even though it's it looks like them. She wore her hair half up, half down, but maybe she has a tight.

Maybe she has a tight. Because, also, right before this video was released, there was a lot of rumors that they were spotted at a mall together holding hands. There's no proof. So we were, like, waiting and then this. So it was kind of it is.

It is. Great.

So let's see. Let us see. Great. July what month is it? January 17th, the doc drops Amazon Prime.

See you there. Oh, that's soon. That should be nominated for Globe.

And that's how Molly

sees it. And then our 5th and final story is such exciting news. Yes. From the business world. From the business world, from the fashion world, Kristen has partnered with Emma Greed to launch her brand off season, which is a sports apparel brand born from Christian's viral DIY looks.

And what's, of course, getting Kristen's brand finally to market is so exciting, but the fact that she's partnering with Emma, who is also the partner on SKIMS and Good American and the Kardashians go to fashion swirly, like, just bode so well for the health of the company.

If you watch Shark Tank, she's, like, a very popular Guess Shark. She is, like, she's a billionaire, I I believe.

She also does stately Stately. She's, like,

the go to Kardashian business girlie, but before that, she had, like, an even more impressive resume that Right.

That's how she got to, but now it's like everything she touches turns to gold.

We all knew that Kristen Newschak, because she got her NFL license, was working on some sort of, like, line the consumer consumer focused line. And I figured she would, like, work with someone. I don't know if it was gonna be, like, a brand she partnered with, like, a Kmart line. That would've been cool. If you would have asked me what's, like, the coolest best person she could have partnered with, I wouldn't have even I I couldn't have even come up with this idea because it's so good, and I'm so dumb.

But when I heard it, I was like, oh, Parfait.

Parfait? Yes. Better than we could have imagined. I think, like, we all want the world for Kristine Uchek, not only because she's a gorgeous wonderful party girl, but because she's so talented. Like, we want those clothes, but she can only do so much with her sewing machine.

So, like, getting them to market is important, but also in a way, like, building a fashion brand, as we said, like, it's so, it's hard, and it's expensive and warehouses and distribution, and and then you got all these teams too. Like Right. Having to make all this custom apparel, like, by team, by size, but it's just a lot so that she's partnered with the right person who makes these things happen. Like, ugh. Beautiful.

It's it's in partnership with Emma Green, but also with fanatics, which is, like, the official sports apparel.

Oh, and that is the, you know, the July 4th guy.

Can't wait to see Kristian Uschuk at the July 4th party.

Can't wait to see Kristian Uschuk.

She could not have gotten in bed with better people. This shit is so cute. Mine's in on on the way, I actually got an email about, like, sizing and address. I don't I wonder which 1 they're gonna give me. They're probably gonna give

me Oh, you got PR? I'm like, you ordered it?

No. No. No. I got PR, bitch. Yeah.

That's right. Well, it hasn't it hasn't showed up yet. She has.

I

I feel like they're gonna give me Kyle, number 44. I feel like a vest or maybe a jacket because I live in New York. Whatever. I'm so excited. The shade is so cute.

It's pricey, but it's it's, like, it's, I think, maybe the first brand when it comes to, like, NFL licensing and, like, sportswear that's a little bit more high fashion. It's not just, like, merch.

Yeah. But, also, the amount that men pay for their faves jersey is a lot. Those jerseys are expensive. And, like, for women, you buy a T shirt for a game. You don't wear the same T shirt every game, but now this is something that you could wear to every single game in the season end.

Outerwear. The off season.

Yeah. Off season? The name is off season, which is really cute. And I love the way they're rolling it out. I don't know if you saw the 40 niners game last night.

Her husband was wearing a vest, and then George Kittle, who's, like, the other tight end on his team who's, like, huge, was also wearing a vest, like, with their custom so they're jerseys too. So the numbers are on the front, and the last names are on the back. It was so like, I'm just loving the rollout.

Do you know the price point? Yeah.

I think it's, like, like, $300, which, by the way, for, like, a puffer jacket that's gonna keep you warm, like, an outdoor jacket. I don't know how warm it like, what the insulation is like, but that's, like, kind of a good price for a real puffer jacket.

You don't know the insulation? Really? No. But I'll let

you know when I get my when I get my PR.

I I'm so excited. It's so great. But, also, this is making me realize that there is 1 other piece of news that we have to talk about on this episode, not to make it 2 hours, but, like, people are waiting. Meghan's trailer dropped for the show. Yes.

With love Meghan. We talked about the trailer a little bit on Patreon, but we owe you guys a little bit of our initial thoughts because her show is premiering on Netflix any day now.

The name is with love Meghan, which I actually don't like. Meghan. This is yeah. That's the only part of this I don't like. I don't like the comma, and you guys know I love comma usage.

It should be with love. No no comma Meghan? No. No.

It shouldn't be the title. Of course.

It shouldn't be title requires Cooking with the Duchess.

Yeah. Like, duchess oven or something.

The Duchess. I love that. The Duchess kitchen. Like, come on.

Yeah. No. It's the only thing I don't like.

It's so disingenuine. Is that a word? The name No. Disingenuous. The name with love.

Like, stop it.

No. And if you need, like, a pause in your title, it's just not gonna work. Because the way people talk, it's like, show gun.

You know what I'm saying? Disingenuous. I watched I watched with love. I I watched with love Megan last night.

I don't I just don't like it. So that's my only critique. But let me tell you, I gasped when the trailer dropped. I feel like this is exactly what you and I have been requesting from her. And of all the business projects she's done upon Megxit, so many of them have felt, like, really random and not Pargi.

And this is Pargi. She's a homemaker. She, like, lives on a farm with her chicken. She's feeding her children. She hosts a lot.

She's rich and beautiful, and and that this is what I wanna see. Like, thank you. I don't need to see you, like, talking to Gloria Steinem. Like, this is what I want.

Well, I think she's, like, cooking with Gloria Steinem, which I've said. Like, I hate that shit. Like, I wanna see you sat in your kitchen talking to me, not Mindy Kaling, not your friends who I don't know, not you teaching someone else. I want you teaching me. When I first saw the trailer, like, I I this is the exact type of content we've wanted from her, but also wanted in general.

Like, we want more, like, Pargilicious shows, Joanna Gaines, lifestyle. Bring us into your home. Make it warm. Comfort creators, as we say. Yep.

Yes. And so I'm so glad that that's what she's doing. However, as I said on the Patreon, like, what this show needs, and, we'll have to watch episodes to find out, is substance. Like, it needs, like, heart. We need to be hearing from her.

Like, I want real words. I don't want word salad. I want salad, but I want real words being spoken. Like, I really feel like we need to, like she needs to open up to us, the viewers Yeah. Because that's how, like, you endear yourself and how you how you become someone's comfort.

It so I feel like the potential here is so endless and and for such beauty, and I'm really excited to watch it. However, she needs to give us, like, more than she's ever given us. She more than archetypes, not scripted, not phony,

like No phoning it in.

Canned moments that you're pretending are candid, but they're canned. Like, I want to let be let in. I completely agree. I also I do I

do agree with your assessment that, like, cooking shows with guests as a format is really not something I'm particularly interested in. And so I was a little disappointed to see, like, the random guests. Obviously, I love Mindy Kaling, so I'm not talking about that. But it just felt who can we call to get? And it's like, why don't you just give us an episode just you?

You know? I I you are enough, Megan.

Why don't you give us a season just you? And then, eventually, you run out of things to make. You bring a guest. Fine. Ina doesn't but I want to get to know you.

I don't wanna see your friendship with Mindy Kaling. Like, I genuinely don't give a shit. The backlash has been swift, and I have heard, like, some real, like, out of out of control, like, critiques. Like, I feel like what what we're criticizing is just, like, format wise. Like, it's so fair.

We have a very high bar for it.

But, like, the criticisms have been like, I have seen so many people being like, are you kidding Meghan Markle? Like, there's people that are dying. People can't pay their bills. Like, the country's in shambles. Like, well, yes.

All of that is true. Why is that Meghan Markle's fault? I'm like, the go the Golden Globes were on last night.

Okay. I just wanna say, I saw some criticisms like that, and it did make me stop and think because, like, you have to remember, they meditated 5 years ago. They left a life of service and duty and, like, giving back to their community, and they were going they, like, were acting like they could do more outside of the family and, like, this isn't doing any this isn't helping people in solving world hunger, which you don't need to do as a human being. I don't

give a fuck.

But, like, that's what they have, like, presented themselves as.

So now for this is her first, like, entertainment focused project.

So, like, yeah, we're calling it. Like, you guys don't aren't doing philanthropy. Great. You're not like Great.

I never needed them to come here. You're not getting it.

That, but they've always billed themselves as that. So, like, to go from that to now just, like, straight entertainment, you know, we're not even pretending. We're gonna

Let me ask you a question.

We're gonna waste food instead of giving it.

Let me ask you a question because I feel like a really fair comparison a lot of people make in terms of their level of celebrity is very similar to the Obamas. Right? Like, formerly in service, friends with lots of famous people. If Michelle Obama had a cooking show, like, do you think it would be, like, distasteful?

No. No. Because they did their serve no. It's it's not a good comparison in this regard because they get that comparison because they were going on to do a life of service. They just got married.

They barely did anything while they were in the UK, and then they left to say we could do more and we could be more impactful and more constrained, and instead they're making cooking shows. Whereas, like, the Obamas, like, did their time. They gave their service to the country. And now if you wanna go do a cooking show, do whatever the fuck you want. That so no.

It's not the same. It's just, like, then you should have been real 5 years ago when you left that, like, we are here to go to Hollywood, which we all knew, and I think that's why people were, like, annoyed with them for being so phony, like, no. We're not. But now, like, yeah, you are. And the thing is, like, that's what we wanted her back in Hollywood.

She was our star.

It's true. It's so true. Oh, and then a lot of the the commentary saying, like, how inauthentic this is. And I actually think a lot of people forget that, like, Meghan actually had real it wasn't so popular in the States. But when she was living in Vancouver, she was, like, a really popular influencer there with The Tig.

It was, like, a blog that was, like, very lifestyle focused, lots of, like, gardening, cooking. Very similar. She should have called this The Tig, actually. That would have been a good name.

That would have been an amazing name and really full circle. And her saying, like, yeah. I wanna go back to being the person that I was before all of that. It didn't work out, and Harry wasn't happy either, and he's not been happy in that role in a long time. So, like, we're gonna do my life now.

And I feel like that honesty would have been appreciated then, would be appreciated now, and that's where it gets to be, like, inauthentic. But calling the show inauthentic, you can't say until you've watched it. Like, can this woman cook? That's all

I care. No. But she also didn't, like, pick up 1 day and decide to, like, get into lifestyle content. Like, she actually has a passion for lifestyle content. Yeah.

And so that is really working on her side, and The Tig would have been such a good name. The Tig with Meghan.

The Tig. I I really do love it. I think it, like, seriously launches any day.

She's also going for, like, the sort of Madonna like thing, where her Instagram that she launched is at Meghan, her show. Like, she wanted her name in the title, just Meghan. So I think she's going for, like, kind of this 1 name wonder type of thing, which I kinda like. There isn't, like, a Meghan. Who do you think is the most famous Meghan?

Her. Right? Is she in competition with anyone?

Well, now that you say it, like Megan Maroney. You know?

Okay. So they're not on the same level. So

No. Like, now that you now that you keep saying Megan Megan. But, honestly, I don't know. Let's see if it sticks. Maybe it's a good PR move, but I feel like there were other names she could like, Sussex is strong, and you're not compete like, Sussex Kitchen.

I kinda like that.

You know, like, I just they actually have a lot of names between them because they have prince Harry royal highness, duke, duchess, Sussex Oak. Sussex, Windsor, Mountbatten, archetype, arc. You know, they've got a lot of names in their world. So there was a lot to work with. And instead, we got with Love Meghan and American Riviera Orchard.

Because we've been podcasting 4

and a 2 years. Pee in my pants.

Oh, I'm just, like, quickly, checking page 6 to make sure, like, nothing broke. Oh, the only thing we need to talk about was, Zendaya wearing an engagement ring on the red carpet, which was party, and she also accidentally looked at her arm and showed us that she got a tattoo, which is a little t.

Oh, cute. It's so funny. She wears an engagement ring on the red carpet, and, like, for some reason, it's still like, well, are they engaged? And it's like, yeah. Well, because celebrities wear, like, just actually cocktails.

Only ring it that fit her finger.

No. There's pictures of her, like, showing the ring to people at the so she's totally engaged. I love them. I hope I love that they protect their privacy. I hope she never announces it.

Like, bitch, it's literally none of our business.

Yeah. But same doesn't go for Kylie and Timothee. Like, give us more. It's time. It's been 2 years.

She looked insane. She is insane. When she was just, like, smiling next to him, laughing at the jokes of Nikki Glaser, like, oh my god. I I need Kylie Cam at these awards. Agreed.

Agreed. Okay. We did it 2 hours. Nilafi, that is our show. Oh my god.

I I started the new year by drinking so much water, so I've already drank 1 whole 1 of these, and this is my For you. Body. I'm gonna pee my pants. We can't do long episodes like this if I wanna be a hydrated pee. Well, by

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