Transcript of The Elk of Bottoms: Tuesday, October 29th, 2024

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to The Toast, and Happy Tuesday, also known as Tuesday, the final Tuesday before the official Tuesday, if you know what I mean.

If you know what I mean, Tuesday has always been a day of choice, but it harks from its original history as the day of choice on Election Day. The first Tuesday of November is next week, making this actually the last Tuesday of October.

That is what it makes this. That's so true.

So now that you know that, I feel like you're prepped.

1,000 %. Now, do I feel like I have a different energy today?

Yes, you do.

What do you think it harks to? Can you pin Point, the energy differentiator?

I think it harks to something different you did with your hair or your makeup.

No, it's not physical. It's actually not physical.

Oh, something that you watched.

No, something that I did this morning. I actually did something really crazy this This morning.

You went out for breakfast? Yes.

How did you know that?

Because it's just a crazy thing to do in New York when you wake up early or something.

Yeah, it's just a crazy thing to do.

And you and Ben just found a diner that you like. I'm so glad you brought that up.

I've been willing to talk about that.

There's only so many things you could have done before the toast this morning, so I do think you went out to breakfast.

I did. A new diner opened up on our block that is really exciting for us. Diners are the backbone of America, and we just love to support local diners.

I feel like diners are on the decline, not on the rise necessarily. You have probably your diner that you love, but it's not often that you get a new diner.

We went over the weekend, and it was good. They still have some kinks to work out, but the basics were there, thank God. Then it put us on this mission of, We need to try more diners. Over the weekend, we actually went to three different diners. I didn't want to share because some of them were really bad. Me and Ben, and Ben got food poisoning. He actually came home and threw up from one. We I was thinking, it would be a funny series for Ben to share, but I don't want to disparage local businesses because even a bad designer, there's a place for that diner in this city. It is the backbone of our economy, and I'm not going to be out here disparaging local businesses.

For sure. It's the backbone of someone's drunk late night antics. Yeah.

And so this morning, we had all this extra time. We're like, should we try another diner? Now, we had been to this one before. It's out of our way, but we had the time. It was a very dink morning, just sitting down for breakfast, watching the news.

Totally.

It really made me wish I lived in a world where I just went out for breakfast in the mornings. If I woke up at 6:00 in the morning, and it got I could have breakfast every morning out. But that's not real life.

I want to have breakfast every morning out, but that's not real life. I mean, I want to have breakfast every morning out, but I more so want to sleep.

Yeah, I more so want to sleep.

Breakfast is underrated, and I love a breakfast of champions, like eggs and toast and a hash brown. I really do enjoy that. And now it's like, if I ever want that, I'll just... I make it, and that suffices the hash browns. I don't know how to make hash browns. I still do frozen.

Yeah, like the Traitor Joe's.

But what do you get?

Today, I got a grilled cheese, and let me-Not the Trader Joe's. Let me tell you this grilled cheese has got my vote. It was so superior. I'm not really one who... I don't I believe in like, do you want a whole wheat or a spinach wrap? I don't think those things make you healthy, right?

No, the spinach wrap is not going to make you skinny. No. So just get the tasty one.

Right. And so when they ask what bread, I'm never one to be like, seven grand. But I do always, with a grilled cheese, get whole wheat bread. Not for the whole wheatiness. I actually think it's a superior sandwich.

I agree.

Something about a white bread, it's like, what am I, six? It's just not right.

No, it's too basic. I actually... I like a rye bread.

On a grilled cheese?

On a grilled cheese. Oh, that's disgusting. With a little ketchup. I knew you were going to make fun of me, and I actually didn't even want to say it because I knew that my yum was going to be yucked. But I had to... Some people like rye bread, so here I am representing those people. I was almost going to say, Don't make fun. But I was like, No, she could handle it. I thought maybe she'd even be like, Oh, cool.

Yeah. No, because let me tell you this, I don't have a problem with rye bread. I think it's actually important to my culture, rye bread. It is. I I just think that certain sandwiches, I'll allow rye bread, even though I would seriously never touch rye bread. I think it's literally disgusting. Of course, you're having a pastrami sandwich, a turkey sandwich. Certain sandwiches, of course, rye bread. Grill cheese is sacred. Don't you dare bring rye bread into this. That's sick.

It's a tasty treat. Well, because I don't eat store-bought bread, I'm just superior in that fashion. This weekend, I actually made so many grilled cheese cranberries because we had a fresh loaf of sandwich bread. So I made grilled cheese for lunch Saturday and Sunday for the kids and for Zack and I. And it was the best grilled cheese ever.

Grill cheese, to me, is so important, and it is something that will truly, truly never go out of style. I don't know if I've ever turned down a grilled cheese. I don't know if I've ever not been in the mood for a grilled cheese. I think when it comes to sandwich culture, everybody's focused on the meats, right? And grilled cheese gets thrown by the wayside a little bit. They think it's for kids. It's not. Let me tell you, it is superior. I'm not I'm not even talking about a cheese sandwich, by the way. Yuck, yucky. Cheese sandwich is actually... It's insane how the same exact ingredients make up a cheese sandwich.

No, just what a little heat can do.

And butter. There's no butter on the bread of a cheese sandwich. It's just plain bread. Cheese sandwich is actually filthy.

It's fire festival.

Yes, it is.

What you're saying is grilled cheese is always a good idea?

That's exactly what I'm saying. It's totally a breakfast food, right? Yeah. You can have it any time of day. I've never not wanted a grilled cheese.

Sorry. People are going to be like, What? It's not like, overwhelmingly a breakfast food. It's acceptable. But you can treat yourself to a grilled cheese for breakfast because it has the same ingredients as your bacon, egg, and cheese on a bagel.

It's so true. You're having toast and cheese in your eggs.

You're having bread in different form with cheese. You're not better than us.

I think it's a totally acceptable breakfast menu item.

Agreed. I know that's going to be crazy for some people to hear.

I know that diners in New York are much more of a cultural thing. I know that because a couple of years ago, I was getting so much hate on my Instagram story, people being like, You spelled dinner wrong. I literally didn't. I was talking about diner in this sentence. I'm like, We just ordered diner. I guess a normal person would be like, Oh, you ordered dinner, moron.

No, no, no. Or you would say, We ordered from a diner. Yeah.

No, but I would say, We ordered diner, to you.

Yeah, but in a sentence, the grammar is not- You see how people thought I was like...

They were We got you in a typo. I'm like, Actually, you fucking didn't, bitch. You didn't. I ordered a diner.

Yeah, but they're not so actually crazy for thinking that. No, for thinking that.

But then they were like, You're lying. You're doubling down.

That's like saying, I ordered Chinese, I ordered Italian. I ordered a diner. It's a type of cuisine. It's a type of cuisine. Educate yourself.

Right. Then I doubled people like, You're doubling down because you're lying. It was at that moment that I realized people don't- She doubled down because she's lying. People in New York take diner more seriously. I don't know if... Because at this point in my life, I'm eating at a diner once a week. If you don't live in the city, is that a common occurrence for you? How often are you eating at a diner in Minnesota?

Well, I think it just depends. I think there's some fast food chain diners, which are probably more prevalent, like Denny's. That counts. I feel like even IHOP is considered a diner.

Oh, wow. That's actually a really interesting question.

I'd have to take a hard look at the menu to see if they cover all food groups, but I think that they do.

By the way, IHOP is 100% a diner. And by the way, I think that chains count. When I talk about diner culture, I'm including Denny's. I love a Denny's.

It's a It's different to go to your diner on the corner since 1910 versus going to Denny's. Technically, it's the same, but you don't always say when you're going to Denny's, I'm going to diner.

No, but they really got that right in Seinfeld, the diner of it all.

But the diners are going by the wayside, I find. We grew up on diners, and now it seems as though you're having a renaissance, but previous to this week, they slip through the cracks.

No way. Even though I'm definitely having a diner renaissance, I have been supporting diners my entire life. Maybe not- No, I know.

But in the last few years, maybe it's just this gap that you slip through the cracks after you're no longer drunkenly eating at diners. You're not, as a kid, going to breakfast, and you're not drunk and eating at diners. And diners have to find their way back to you in adulthood.

It's so true.

And you found your way back.

Ben and I go into a diner, and we clock everything about it. The vibes, the staff. The smell. The smell, of course. Well, if it's not a good smell, we won't say. And the one that we ate at where Ben got food poisoning this weekend, we had such high hopes for it. The soda was so good because the one we went to previously had a little bit of a flat soda. So we were ready to go. We were ready to go. And it was just not... I actually saw a bunch of tosters So hi, guys. It was just not good.

Okay. Well, you live in, you learn.

I think that might be a dream of mine.

To open a diner? Yeah.

I love that. Just so I could sit there all day.

Dream big. What would you call it?

Turdy's Place.

Tp. I'd go.

You would go to a restaurant with the name turd in it.

Well, of course I would. I support my sister. Other people, I don't know.

No, we would have to make sure that we are the highest of cleanliness standards.

Well, I just feel like any time the name turdy is not applicable to restaurant or whatever, we go Trudy. That's your backup.

Trudy's place. I like that.

Just like that note. Remember that PR? Of course. Someone sent you there like, Are you sure you want to send this to Turdy?

I am sure.

Are you sure you don't mean Trudy Lou?

Trudy is cute, too. What would you name your diner? She's so cute. Well, actually, Jackie, our diner would have to be called Toast and Ham.

Of course. That's the thing. We could talk all the talk all day, but at the end of the day, it's like, toaster.

Eggs and toast.

Toaster's. Toast time. Or The Toast.

The Toast.

The Toast? Yeah.

That's the name of the diner. We serve bread.

Yes, we do, including Why?

So that's what's a little different about me this morning.

Well, I'm glad you're well fed.

Oh, I ate. She ate, and I'm sat. She ate, and I'm sat. She ate, and I'm sat.

I love saying I'm sat. The Southern Charmed trailer came out yesterday. You were sat? I'm sat.

I was sat. Is there anything different about you this morning?

Well, I got a parche loaf out of the oven this morning.

Okay, so that's not new at all.

Nothing new with my HMU. No, I'm wearing a new sweatshirt.

So you're regular degular.

You want to get technical. I'm pretty regular degular, I'd say. That's good. Just a regular Tuesday. I have a big afternoon.

Huge. What are you doing?

Big things. I'm doing that secret project with Zack that you know about, that everyone's going to know about very soon. So hold your horses. And then, even bigger news, I am going to the dentist. I was so inspired by Bruno and so jealous. My tooth was radiating pain, and it's time to go, and I'm genuinely frightened for what they're going to find. I know it's not good.

The dentist is genuinely one of the worst places. It's so uncomfortable Not even because...

I know teeth cleaning is, we don't like them. Dent is not fun. But I'm more so frightened about what they're going to say I need. And I'm worried it's an RC.

An RC.

Not the RC, and I've been I'm thinking a lot of not good stuff about RCs.

You know what? I saw that clip from The Skinny Confidential, too.

Right? And now I'm looking for alternatives. Maybe I could get a silver cap.

You should get a gold tooth. I think that that's definitely the next step for you.

At one point in my life, I had a silver... I guess a silver filling. I don't know what happened to it. It must have fallen out.

Can we talk about that? Have dentists evolved past the need for gold and silver fillings?

Yeah, they have porcelain, too, but there is something... There's merit in the silver. Of course, the porcelain, I think, is more expensive, but I also feel like the silver is better.

But I guess kids, we were all just walking around with cavities that got filled by pieces of gold. I don't get it.

No, maybe... No, I think a cavity... Listen, I'm going to know my limit. I don't know. Speaking of, don't quote me, I need to issue a correction from yesterday's episode. This is a big one, and I learned a lot. I learned a lot about my own Floridian history, which is that Florida was very much a state during the Civil War, and that they were part of the Confederacy.

Yikes.

I don't know why Florida just always gave me the vibe of a later state.

Kind of like Nuvarish.

Like a little Hawaii, Alaska. Not Not that late, but I certainly did not think they were part of the South, but they're part of the South. That's a bit of history I need to study up on.

Speaking of geography, I'm glad you brought that up. I just found something out. I just recently found out about the geo-location I'm not even sure. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I just found out where it is on the map.

Okay, where did you think it was?

I'm glad you asked. I thought it was, I don't know, attached. Excuse? I don't know. I thought there was like a Brit. I don't know, something. You're lying. I thought like... Okay, maybe not attached. Fine. But I feel like- Like a ferry ride. I feel like in the maps that we grew up with textbooks- They move it closer. It was condensed, right? It was just in the bottom left. Yes. It went to the left of Mexico a little bit.

Yeah, like South left of California.

Yeah, I thought it was just right there. I knew that to get to Hawaii, you do have to go to California.

I was really shocked when I found out that it's actually so far left in the middle of the ocean, surrounded by nothing. It's an island, so yes. That was shocking. Even though we're miles and miles and miles apart.

Yeah, that was just new information. Myman never told me that.

I want to do is go to Hawaii with you.

Literally same.

Literally same. We want to go to Hawaii so badly. We've never been. I've never been. It was where I wanted to go for my honeymoon.

I feel like that's where most people go.

I know, but usually you would think with me, I wouldn't really have a destination in mind because I'm not such a wanderless type of swirly, but I really wanted to see Hawaii.

Yeah, we will.

We will.

Oh, now that I got my Rael ID, I can travel within the continental US. It arrived yesterday. Yeah.

Maybe we do a little Jizno, Hawaii. Aloha, Jizno.

I'm obsessed. I think there's probably four tosters in Hawaii. Who lived there? We're going to give them one hell of a show. We are. They deserve it.

There's no such thing as a small crowd. What do they say? Oh, it's a small part.

And by the way, there is. There is. The part that I got in 13, The Musical for my senior play, I think her name was Cassie, that was a small part.

Yeah, I think I was the Peach and James and the Giant Peach once somewhere.

I am not still upset about it. I know it came off that way, but I'm not.

No, let's talk about it, because that changed the trajectory of your life? You were going one way. I think it was show business, the theater. Let me say this.

I never, ever got involved in drama or theater or choir throughout high school. I just knew I was a star, and those extracurriculars were beneath me, honestly.

I feel like you assume that if you ever did deem to join one of them, you'd be the star soloist. You'd be the star of the show. You're light ears beyond.

I talked about this a lot in my book, that there is a stigma with being in the play. That was just not a sacrifice I was personally willing to make. That had a lot to do with my choice. By the time senior year rolled around, there was this thing called the Senior Play, where it's all the seniors get together and put on a play. You don't have to be in theater. It's everyone gets involved in. It's really fun.

Yeah, it's all the senior. You just have to be a senior, so everyone- Okay. Finally, you'll lend your talent.

I'll allow it. You know the people who ran... It was a student-run production, and the people who were put in charge were the people who had been in theater for four years. They didn't like me. I wasn't a part. So I literally show up. Actually, I remember that the girl who auditioned right before me, she's saying, I think rumor has it by Adel, she was literally awful. I was like, I'm going to absolutely crush this. I was saying, Don't run in my parade from Funny Girl. I literally thought I was Rachel Berry.

We all know that How do you can sing that song?

And Jackie, let me tell you, I ate and I sat. I remember being like- You ate, they were sat. I remember thinking to myself, I've never auditioned. I'm never going to audition. This is the one... I didn't even have time to be nervous. I'm like, Let's just go in and rock the socks off those theater kids, okay? Yeah. There was literally no doubt in my mind that I deserve the part. Now, the lead in this play was a boy role. So I was like, and if I don't-What was the play again? Thirteen. That's a little racy for the Yeshiva.

It was Racy. For the Yeshiva? It was Racy.

Not the Yeshiva. For a Jewish faith school, 1,000%. I was like, If I don't get it, it's fine. They give it to a boy. It's not a big deal. Now, I didn't get it. It went to a girl. It was obviously a coordinated attack from the theater kids. They did not like me. She did a good job, Zahava. I'll say she did, and she's a queen, so I'm not going to disparage her. She actually did a great job as a boy. The more I thought about it, I wasn't mad. She had to run around in a boys wig. I didn't want to be that. I got cast as a cheerleader. You would think that sounds good, but there were a lot of cheerleaders. I was literally one step above an ensemble cheerleader. The only reason mine was different was because my role had solo. It was a whole song at the very end. It's one of the better songs of the musical. I wasn't familiar with the musical at the time. Cut to, a few weeks into rehearsal. I told you, it was a coordinated attack by the theater kids. They cut my solo. They were like, We don't have time.

We had to make some cuts. This song is getting cut. I said, Are you fucking kidding me? I said, I knew this was a coordinated attack, but you all just pretty much confirmed that you hate me. All that to say, I was not taking it lying down. I got the song put back in. Wait, it It gets worse. It's the dead last song. By the time all the parents are asleep, it's the worst time. My song comes on. I've been practicing so hard, and I really was about to crush it. The first couple of bars, my microphone is off. Tell me it's not a coordinated attack. My friend Anna has a video on Facebook. I have to go find it because literally, you can't hear me for the first couple of lines.

Stop.

Then I was like, Seriously, I was so determined.

Determination was- This show must go on.

Determination was not I actually really embodied as a young woman. I don't know where this courage and determination came from, but I started singing so loud without a microphone.

I'm like, Everyone in this- It's giving Katie Heron.

Everyone in this room is going to fucking hear me, and they're going to like it. Then the microphone- What a bright time. Then the And then the microphone came on, and I absolutely crushed, so much so that I haven't been back to my high school in a while, but when Margot was in high school, I would go back and like, Let me tell you, they were still talking about it. I'm being dead serious. Dwight, because we went to a Jewish high school, and They have full arm security 24/7. The OG guy who's always standing outside, all the students know him, love him. His name is Dwight. If you were really cool with Dwight, you would have inside jokes and stuff. Let me tell you, after that solo for the rest of the year, and then every time I came back to high school for the next following year to see Margaret graduate and shit, he would be like, solo. He was deeply moved by it. And by the way, I am not making this up. No, I believe you. We got to get Dwight on the pod, okay?

We do. We have to get his side of the story. But yeah, they tried to keep turdy down.

But also, I I feel like if you did get the lead in that play, you might have pursued immediately a career in music because I felt like you always planned to...

Not always planned to, but you always thought if you wanted to, you could. But them keeping you down like that, it, I think, a little bit made you doubt yourself?

No, it definitely turned me off to the community because say what you want about the theater, but it should be a meritocracy. I'm sorry, I know you guys think I'm crazy. My audition was the best, and it was very political. I'm dying to name names of the three people, the students who were in charge of... They had a complex. For the first time ever, they were in charge of everyone. I get it.

Let me ask you something. Where are they now?

That's an amazing question, actually. Ever since I deactivated my Facebook because I'm a celebrity, I haven't really been able to keep up with so many of my classmates. Just so much so that I was actually with a friend recently, and we were going through the Gearbook, and he was pointing to someone, and I'm like, I've never seen that person in my life. It actually sucks not to have a Facebook.

Yeah. I I do agree with that. But I guess if they were somewhere, maybe we'd know them.

There are a couple of kids from my high school graduating class that are doing big things.

Are there?

Yeah.

You don't have to say who they are, but what things.

There is a company out there that I think a lot of people know and like. It's these new healthy food companies. Started by a girl in my grade. Go her. And by the way, she had the best voice. She actually, I don't think, went out for the play.

What did she She knew something? She already knew about the corruption.

It was really corrupt. That's what it was. I hate to sound like just a naggy wench because I didn't get the part that I wanted. But it wasn't a meritocracy. For me, that's what I realized. Theater is very political. The best person doesn't win. And honestly, people who are heavily involved in the theater are generally, I'm obviously making a general issue, are generally insufferable, Cynthia Reevo. So that wasn't a community I wanted to dive into.

So you took your talent solo. To the podcasting. And they couldn't stop you. Yeah. They couldn't. They couldn't stop you from being the star that you became.

Honnêt, down we're going to have a good time. Our hands up to the sky. We're going to get toasty tonight.

Well, thank you for sharing your truth. What happened to me in my senior play was also really sad and unfair. Tragic.

What happened to Jackie?

Let me tell you what happened. So senior play is here. As Claudia said, everybody does it. I was never a theater kid because you guys have heard my voice. However, I really wanted to be involved in the play.

No, Jackie, I'm telling you, the senior play brings out a sense of determination.

It's like a spell. A spell comes over you.

I actually remember I remember Jackie coming home being like, I'm going off for the play, and we were like, okay. She was so determined.

I was so determined. Plus, the play was really good. It was Willy Wanka in the Chocolate Factory. And so I practiced really hard on my bad singing voice, and I sing The Climb for My Edition. And you guys know I'm like, I can carry that tune to a degree. You can. To a degree. And I got a really great part. I got the part of Violet Beauregard.

Are you one of the best ones?

Yeah.

Who wants to be Charlie? He's so annoying and dumb.

For a girl, that's one of the best parts. I couldn't have been happier. Oh my God. God bless.

Me?

No. And then they canceled the play. And I just canceled it.

And I just want to say, the fact that you got a bigger role in your play is proof of the corruption I was discussing.

But maybe the corruption and the inner workings of the theater group that you mentioned is what got the play to the stage. And maybe because we didn't have that, my ear and there was no one making those hard decisions, pushing the whole thing through. That's why it slipped through the cracks.

That's actually Look, they're always cutting funding for the arts. It's disgraceful.

It's disgraceful. So both of us were stopped dead in our tracks in pursuing a career in the theater.

I'm going to find that video of me saying- You better. I'm going to.

Great.

But now, now, now I see a brand new you, and that can stop myself from loving every itty-bitty thing you do. That was my solo.

I absolutely need to see this video.

Have you never seen it?

No, not in recent history.

Okay, on our fake Facebook, we have to friend Anna. Are we friends with her on Facebook? She has it. I know she has it on her page.

Why don't you send the request now? Send the request now so after the show, we're ready.

Not me friending my friend from high school. Like, literally, my friend of 10 years.

We have five friends on Facebook.

Anna, okay. Oh, no. Okay. We're friends. Yeah, we share. Should I find it? Okay.

No, because we have to do the show. But afterwards, that's going to be a sweet treat for after the show. Okay. Now that we've recap some of our childhood traumas. I feel like we couldn't get into the Fast Five stories that you need to know.

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Our first story, some very exciting pregnancy news. Giselle Bündchen is pregnant with baby number three, her first with boyfriend, Waukeem Valenti, the jiu-jitsu instructor that she's been linked to for over a year now. People magazine is reporting that they are expecting their first baby together. This will be Giselle's third baby. She has two children with Tom braided, a daughter and a son. Her son is 14, and her daughter is 11, just for context.

How old is Giselle, please?

44.

That's what's so crazy. That's what's so crazy.

44.

Her being pregnant is not a big deal. She's in a relationship, go off, queen. I feel like she's one of those people who loves being a mother, loves motherhood. It didn't change her body. I think it's not a big deal for her. But being 44, that is a big deal. And that's really crazy. That's some biblical ass shit. I feel like when you are seriously in perfect shape and you take care of your body every day with a green juice in meditation, this is what happens.

Yeah, I think it's so beautiful. And also what I really like about it is, well, just life, a million things that I like. But I feel like also when a long term couple breaks up, usually the man moves on. And if he's with someone younger, he's able to have more children if he wants to. But women biologically can't do it forever. And this is turning the tables a little bit that she's doing it. And I agree, when you are healthy, it reminds me a little bit also of Courtney Kardashian. Getting pregnant at a later age It is possible. I think this is a great reminder and just a beautiful thing overall.

No, I love that take, by the way, like flipping the total gender stereotypes on their head. I also know that this is making Tom braided sick. I know it is. It's such an unexpected thing for her to do, but when you have a baby with someone, that's a real testament to your love and the longevity of your relationship. This isn't just a floozy, and I feel like he's been spotted out with a couple of models, really not deep relationship stuff. I think that We know he's a really family-oriented guy. I think that this woman, the mother of his children, is having her own family now. I just know it's making him sick, and I love it.

Yeah. Also, in some ways, this is similar to what happened to him in Bridget. He moved on and had more children, and so now he's feeling what that is like.

I would love in this moment to hear from Bridget. I know she's not going to speak.

Also, I feel like up until now, I wasn't convinced she was dating the Jujutsu instructor. I thought maybe she just likes Jujutsu.

Yeah, who doesn't?

However, I guess they are together.

Yes, it has been just widely speculated up until this point. They were physically spotted together two years ago. So that's all we have.

Yeah, and they go on vacation together, but maybe she loves Jujutsu.

A lot of celebrities bring their trainers.

Can't go a day without the Jew.

Yeah, the Jujutsu. The jiu-jitsu. The jiu-jitsu.

The jitsu.

Yeah. So this was really unexpected, honestly, mostly because of her age. I know everyone's going to be like, Stop harping on it. Guys, it's really crazy.

No, it is biblical. It's biblical. I think it's a really great thing.

No, this is really... I don't think about Giselle a lot. She's not one of the people who come across my desk. Really, I feel like maybe in a quarterly manner. I really don't think about her a lot. But because she was in the news so much yesterday, I was just seeing a lot of photos of her, like recent photos. It's staggering what a Giselle looks like these days. She is literally, and I know she was the biggest model, but she's so insane-looking. She really is that bitch. She It works the same now. I would say she's just as beautiful, perfect-looking now as she was at the height of her career. It's insane.

She doesn't look like really plastic. That's why she's Giselle. Her name is actually an adjective at this point. Oh, I'm not Giselle. However, Ever. So people were saying and noticing that she wasn't on the Victoria's Secret fashion show, whereas a lot of the OGs were. And not to make it about us, but it would have been actually really cool and iconic if she walked and revealed her pregnancy on the runway.

That's what I'm going to say. I actually completely disagree. It was such a chaotic cluster fuck. Nobody needed that. They wouldn't have given her enough screen time to keep a belly.

I completely agree, but they needed... That would have been really awesome for them. And with nothing for her, and I'm sure she would literally I really never. But that would have been really great for them. Just like, I think it would be great to have a pregnant person on the cover of Sports Illustrated. That's what I want to see next.

What's so funny is I actually do not think of Victoria's Secret when I think of Giselle. To me, she's so much more... I don't know. Even the biggest models in the world, like yeah, Adriana Lima, I think of all of them, and I think of Victoria's Secret. I actually didn't even know Giselle walked in Victoria's Secret. I feel like she just did so much more than that in her modeling career.

I agree with you. There are some models that are forever and always Victoria's Secret in a good way. But Giselle also because she was Tom and Leo, and I guess I'm just naming her partners and not actually things that she's done, which is.

No, and by the way, I'm looking. I just googled Giselle model, and there's nothing even remotely recognizable that I would be like, Oh, yeah, she was the face of Gucci. I don't know what the hell she did.

I'm sure she was.

Yeah. There's a lot of Victoria's Secret. She's so gorgeous. It's really unfair.

Yeah. Mazel tov, all's to say. This is beautiful. To life, to life, lechaim.

She sneezed on the beat. I'm really happy for her.

She sneezes on the beat.

And the beat got sicker.

La haim, la haim, to life.

She's just the type of person you could actually sit on Google and stare at pictures of her. You know what she is, as Kim Kardashian would say, she's extremely interesting to look at.

Yeah. She is. Well, put her with your video from Anna that you can look at later. That's a sweet treat for after the show.

I can't wait to see what that daughter gets into.

Yeah.

I don't know what she really looks like. She looks like her. She's 11, so she probably maybe is going through an awkward phase. I don't think what she looks like now is what she's going to look like. But I could see her making waves as well.

Yeah, plus her genetic. Same with the son.

I'm sure he's into football.

Yeah, I'm sure. That's very exciting. Are you ready?

It was more so shocking than anything.

I know. I agree. I love a shock.

It takes a lot to shock me.

I feel like there's been a couple of shocking bits of news recently.

Everybody's just acting out.

It's true. It's that time of year. That time of year.

I am ready.

Our next story, some podcasting news. Someone is entering the world of podcasting. Oh, my God.

It's like enough. Who?

Army Hammer.

Like I said, it's enough.

Has launched a new podcast joking that he likes the cannibalism scandal. So, of course, the first thing he launches podcast, the title of it is the Army Hammer Time podcast.

Now, that's a really bad name, and it had potential. Actually, the name Army Hammer is such a unique name that there are so many different things that you could have done. I think he wanted to focus on Hammer Time, so why didn't How can you just call it Hammer Time?

He should have called it Hammer Time.

Obviously.

That's it. A one-name wonder.

What did he call it, The Army Hammer Time Show?

Podcast.

Awful. The Army Hammer Time podcast. Five words.

Tatip.

Tatip.

He launched his podcast Tata on YouTube Monday as he continues to quote, put his life together. He said, Some of you are going to love this, and some of you are going to fucking hate it. He said in a clip posted via Instagram while skateboarding in Venice Beach earlier in the day. He explained that the podcast will serve as a journal for him to acquire wisdom from his guests. He says, I've been gone for the last four years, and now I'm back. What are you going to do? So it's going to be a journal or chronicling of putting my life back together. He I'll let you into my world a little bit. Then he sat down with Tom Arnold to discuss personal growth and rebuilding his career.

Who is Tom Arnold? It sounds familiar.

Yeah, he's like an actor, a working actor.

Yeah, that's the perfect way of putting it. He's a working actor. You might recognize his face, but you don't know him. Army Hammer is so interesting because he has this, like we were saying before, determination, much like the ones you and I had during the senior play. He's really not willing to give up his limelight in public life. I think a lot of times when there are such heinous accusations made against you, you just rightfully so, you just give in. Kevin Spacey, right? There's nothing left for you out here. Go home. And Army Hammer will not give up. He just isn't taking this lying down, and he really needs to stop.

Yeah. He's not happening. But I guess with Kevin Spacey and the other egregious actors that come to mind, it's like they're caught up in lawsuits and stuff and are maybe going to jail. But he doesn't have that.

But I feel like sometimes, not with Kevin Spacey, but certain people who get accused of things... Okay, here, Chris Brown. There's a contingency of people who still believe and support and want more music. I don't know that there's a large group of people begging for Army Hammer to return to public life. Right. So who is this for?

For that group of people? There's always going to be one or two, but if it's large enough to- It's not. Really monetize, well, then you've got a little business.

Now, let me look at something really quick.

I feel like Army Hammer could change his name move somewhere and get a job, I don't know, in sales as a realtor. I think he would have a lot of success in it because he's really good-looking, and people would be like, Oh, you look like Army Hammer. He'd be like, Oh, yeah. He could rise the ranks and have a lot of success.

Wasn't that a story that he was selling real estate in the Cayman Islands?

Yes, but as Army Hammer. I think he could do a full identity change.

I went to his Instagram to see, What's the engagement like? What are people saying? His podcast announcement has 2,000 comments, which is a lot. The ones that I'm seeing so far are positive. Love this idea. Can't wait to watch. Podcast is going to be awesome. King Army. Great to see you.

King Army.

Maybe he has a lot of restricted words in his comments that he blocks because I don't see one being But you're a cannonball. You definitely can't- You're a cannonball. You definitely can't write the word cannonball on... No, not cannonball. Cannibal. Excuse me. I feel like it's a blocked comment. Should I just write a comment like cannibal and then quickly delete it.

Would you even know if it was a blocked word? No. And then you're just in the hater section.

I have finally got to the hater section. Thank God. Hi, back to the place you were. We don't want to see you as you remind us of how twisted Hollywood What is. Really? #nobodygives a damn what you have to say.

There it is. But you know what?

There are people. There are people who will listen to this podcast.

So as we always say whenever someone launches a podcast, the cream rises.

May the odds be ever in your favor.

Yeah. If you've got it, you've got it. Nothing can stop you. Nothing can stop you. That's the beauty of podcasting. Yeah. You're on your own kid.

Actually, I saw something interesting on social media that was lighting up a debate in the podcast space because a lot of people want Kamala to go on Joe Rogan, and he has actually issued an update on his conversations with Kamala, and a lot of people are like, Are you kidding? So he said, I have been in contact, and she wants to do it, but they want us to come to her in wherever she is, DC or whatever, and they've given us a limit of one hour. Now, the Joe Rogan thing is like, Elon Musk, everybody goes to his studio in Austin, and they sit for however long the conversation goes. There's no time limit, usually around 2-3 hours. A lot of people are either saying, Joe Rogan, who do you think you are? The vice President. Then other people are remarking on really the power of podcasting that you can make these types of demands because it is such an influential show. I thought that was interesting.

I think that is interesting. The Trump one came out on Friday, so we never even talked about it, but it's breaking every record. Right.

I think Kamala is being like, Oh, damn, I want that, too.

I think she should 100% do it. I think his terms are fair. Because he said it's not the same if it's not in his studio. But I feel like she's moving around the country. She could pop into Austin. I said this last week. People thought I was saying, Trump is more mobile than Kamala. I was saying, Trump is more mobile than Joe Rogan. And same for Kamala. She's in a different city every day. Like, pop down to Austin, do a little something, and then could leave. He's the one who sat.

But it is, I think, really remarkable and a statement on the impact of podcasts. You can make these type of demands. I'm like, literally, people running for president will fly down to your home or wherever his studio is. I feel like it's like a match to his house. And come to you. That's crazy.

Yeah, but I think that the beauty of his show is in the format of it being so long and- And the same every time for everyone, no matter who you are, you sit in the same chair. But you really get to... He gets to know a person, we get to know a person. For three hours of someone talking to listen to them for three full hours, you really get a sense of what they're about. You can't really fake it or have sound bites for three whole hours. You just have conversations. So I think it would be a great thing for her to do, but she has to do it that way.

That's what he said, and I don't think he's budging on his terms.

Maybe they could compromise on him going there, but it will be three hours. One of the things. That's what they call compromise.

I wonder what's going to happen, but there's only eight days left.

I know. I don't think It's going to happen in time.

I was thinking, because I know there are a lot of undecided voters, and I had a thought that I want to help. If anyone's undecided, here's what they should do, okay?

Flip a coin.

No, that's terrible. This, I actually think, is a foolproof way of figuring out who you should vote for. The person in this world that you hate the most, who you just think is an awful person on the inside, you need to find out who they're voting for and then vote for the opposite.

I thought that was- I think that's not a bad strategy.

I know.

Not the worst thing I've ever heard. I need to see it. I need to see practical application of policy. But she's onto something, perchance.

Did you hear that? I did hear that.

Speaking of...

No, I think it was a crane falling. It's fine. The update everyone's been waiting for, I have a lease in hand.

When do you move?

I don't know. My lawyer is looking at the lease, making sure I'm not getting myself into a bad situation. But once it's signed...

Sealed and delivered?

Sealed and delivered. I might need to do a week of audio only while I get my new studio up and running.

Okay. Anything for the new studio.

I'm really excited.

I'm excited for you and for us and for a new era.

We will do a proper goodbye to this facility that has really treated us so well. I don't want to get into it because I don't want to get emotional. But on to the next.

On to the next. So, yes, major podcasting news between Army Hammer and Joe Rogan and Trump and Kamla.

Between Army Hammer and- Really?

Like, podcasting has been the name on everyone's lips. Oh, you want to know something interesting? I feel like recently When I've been talking to people that I don't know, especially older people, and I tell them that I do a podcast. You know what a lot of people have been saying to me? You know what they've been referencing?

What?

Nobody Wants this.

That's really interesting.

That has become the older people touch point for podcasting, especially because I do it with my sister, and it's swirly. You guys know I hadn't watched it yet, but now I actually want to watch it to see the representation of podcasting because that's what people are thinking that we do. Is it a good representation of podcasting?

I actually do I think it is. They treat it as a real job and the potential for X, Y, and Z, and they have all these meetings with Spotify. It's taken really seriously. Then also, their personal lives have a real impact on the show because their show is a dating show in sex. When she starts dating this rabbi, she stops wanting to talk about sluttiness and blow jobs and gag reflexes. It poses an issue for the other sister when it's like, That's our stick.

Interesting.

It's the intersection of growth and podcasting. It's actually interesting.

I think I would like angle. And now I feel like I should watch it because that's how people are seeing our industry. Yeah.

No, I think it's a good representation.

That is so funny. Well, are you ready for our third story?

I am.

Not so funny.

Not funny?

Not funny. Liam Payne updates. A couple of updates. So a lot of stuff is coming up about Liam Payne and his previous OD prior to his death, where he had to be revived. Also, he It was a Netflix show that was supposed to come out about band. It's called Building the Band. It was a Netflix show that he was a part of alongside Nicole Scherzinger and Kelly Rowland. And now it's being shelved for a little bit.

Oh, but that's a good idea for a show.

Yeah. I don't know what will come of it. I think eventually it would come out. I had read somewhere that maybe they wanted to show it to his family first and run it by them, but that's what he had been working on. Then also, security footage allegedly shows that he fainted before accidentally falling to his death.

Oh.

Yeah. So, Argentine officials are in possession of security footage showing Liam Payne fainting before falling to his death from his hotel balcony, a local journalist claimed. The journalist said on Buenos Aires-based TV station, Canal 13 show that the video backs up the theory that he was unconscious before he accidentally fell from the third story of Casa Serra Palermo Hotel on October 16th. He said, There's footage that is not being released to the media with the balcony scene where you see that Liam feints, and tragically, because of where he is, falls from that balcony. If he had been beside his bed, he would have fallen on his bed. It's not that he jumped deliberately. This footage is in the official case file, this journalist says.

All right. I mean, I guess there was a lot of speculation as to whether this was an attempted suicide or just purely an accident for someone who had a lot of drugs and alcohol in their system. So if that's true, then I guess that confirms that it was the latter, which is so sad.

Yeah, so sad.

Did you also see that Naomi Campbell had made remarks on Liam Payne's death because at one point they had dated? Yeah, I did. Did you know that?

I didn't remember that they had dated if I did ever know it. So that was new news or old new news to me.

That was crazy news for me. Yeah. This whole situation is really so sad.

Yeah. Really. Truly.

Well, I guess getting that closure or at least- Knowing what happened in his final I think would probably- Bring family peace.

Closure. Yeah, for sure. Are you ready for our next story?

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Our next story, another new face of Skims, another Skims campaign, Slay in the House, Down Boots. Tate McRay slays in Skims' new holiday campaign in a variety of sexy, lingerie, and chicy intimates. Tate McCree is the burgeoning pop star who reminds me of our sister Margot because Margot loves her and they also look alike.

She She's literally celebrity Double Ganger twins with Ariana Beermann. It's the craziest thing ever.

Interesting. She is. But when you look at her in a different light, I don't see her and see Ariana Beermann because I'm just seeing her in a different context.

Yeah, no, but she's Ariana Beermann.

She is Ariana Beermann. She's dating the kid Leroy. Yes. And this is what the kids are up to, and Kim got her finger on the pulse.

Yes. This is just another instance of Skims, knowing what's good with the kids. They really cover all demographics. Yeah.

From Olivia Munn to Tate McRay.

But this is also a big stamp of approval for Tate McRay because she's very much a big pop star, but she exists within the internet a little bit. This is a really big opportunity for it. I think it'll introduce her to a lot of people who aren't familiar her music. She got her start on TikTok, and yeah, she sells at Madison Square Garden, but so does Sabrina Carpenter. I don't feel like the two are given the same credit.

No, it's a little frustrating for me as a Tate swirly. I really do like It's like, why isn't she in the running with Sabrina, Olivia, and Chap? Why is Tate slipping through the cracks?

I don't know why.

Why isn't she getting there?

I don't know. I think she's a little confined to the internet. I think if you're not on TikTok, you don't know her or her music.

I'm not on TikTok, and I know... Well, I'm a pop swirly, so I'm going to know.

If you're not an avid internet user.

Yeah, but why?

It's actually shocking that you know who Tate Mariah is. Why?

She's got the talent. I don't know. She's got the songs.

She's got the look.

She's got the celebrity Why isn't she one of them?

I don't know. Actually, I was just reading something about her. Really interesting is that she's not eligible for Best New Artist this year because there is a limit on how many times you can be submitted for the Grammys Best New Artist. I guess her team has already submitted her three times. I don't know at what point they would have submitted her. I heard about her last year. But she's someone who could have won.

I don't know why she's falling behind when she should be right up there with them. I don't know why either.

So this Skims thing, I think, is a good push into into the offline community.

Yes, but there needs to be more of a push, I think, from her team.

Yeah, it does feel stalled a little bit.

Yeah. Sorry.

Do we have Shawn Mendes as a story?

Sorry to ruin your big moment. No.

Why?

I don't know. We have to talk about it. Okay.

Boot whatever the fifth thing is.

What?

Boot whatever the fifth story was.

Oh, I like the fifth story. Oh, I like the fifth story. But okay, our fifth and final story Then as Sean Mendes was making waves at his concert talking about his sexuality.

For the first time.

Saying that he's still figuring it out. So he had a concert in Colorado on Monday, and he's speaking candidly about his sexuality. He said he was weighing in on conversations about sexuality in his lyrics that are like, Some days I have a change of heart. You can say what you need to say. You can say I'm too young. You can say I'm too old. You can say I like girls or boys, whatever fits your mind. However, that was in line with things that he said in the past because he's addressed the fact that in the past, people have said that he's gay. So that's just a part of his story. So he told a crowd, Since I was really young, there's been this thing about my sexuality, and people have been talking about it for so long. I think it's silly because I think sexuality is such a beautifully complex thing, and it's so hard to just put into boxes. He said, It always felt like such an intrusion on something very personal to me, something that I was figuring out in myself, something that I had yet to discover and still have to discover.

Insisting that he's speaking freely now so he can be closer to everyone. He continued, The real truth about my life and my sexuality is that, man, I'm just figuring it out like everyone. I don't really know sometimes, and I know other times. It feels really scary because we live in a society that has a lot to say about that. He said, I'm trying to be really brave and just allow myself to be a human and feel things, and that's all I really want to say about that for now.

On its face, he didn't say anything. He's not like, I'm gay, I'm bi. He didn't say a great proclamation, but it is the first time where instead of... His line thus far has been, People are always commenting on my sexuality, leave me alone, and has girlfriends. We're like, Okay. But this is the first time. He's like, Well, my sexuality is up in the air. I didn't know that that was a possibility. To be honest, I am so happy for specific gay men in my life who would seriously do anything for Sean Mendez. He really is a gay icon without being gay. Yeah. Or who knows up until this point. I think there is thousands thousands of gay men who dream about him, and they actually might have a chance. That is exciting for them.

Yeah, to go out with him.

You're going to have a crush on a celebrity, and you obviously don't have a chance. But if that celebrity doesn't even like your gender, you really don't have a chance.

Yeah.

But now, so you're saying there's a chance.

Who is it? Who would you set him up with?

Oh, my God. Nobody loves Sean Mendes more than Scottie Cuna. It is his dream. He is obsessed. Now, it's actually a possibility. Yeah. I'm happy for them. Now, what does this remind me of? Ask me. Turdi, what does this remind you of?

Turdy, what does this remind you of?

Joshua Bassett. You're telling me that all these girls, Camila Caballo, Olivia Rodriguez, Sabrina Carpenter, bending themselves out of shape, getting so heartbroken, writing all this incredibly popular, famous music over a man who maybe, maybe, doesn't even like girls. Because Joshua Bassett did come out shortly after that saga as a queer person, and he wasn't very specific about what that meant. Then I think he did go back on it. I think he did a little conversion therapy type of thing. I don't know. But there was a whole thing with his sexuality. It's like, Oh, well, we were all fighting over you, and you He doesn't even like either of us.

He could like girls and boys.

He could. I actually think that's what Sean Mendes is getting to.

Same, at least right now.

I don't think it's that he never liked the girls that he was with, and that they don't still have a chance, but that maybe he's just open to other human beings.

But it is giving a little bit word salad.

It's giving word salad for sure. But see, I feel like... Here's an example. Harry styles has alluded often to him being very fluid. A lot of his music videos are suggestive of both and some of the lyrics, and he wears dresses. The imagery, Yeah, he's very whatever. But he's never dated a man. He's spotted out all the time in these relationships. He's currently dating someone who I actually I've been meaning to tell you that I think you should start following because she has a cover of... Okay, I just followed her on TikTok.

A moment away, he's Is this a food blogger?

No, that was a while ago. She's a singer, but she's like a jazz singer. I think her name is Olivia Dean. She's very old. Olivia Dean. Her Instagram is @oliviedeno.

How do you spell that?

D-e-a-n. I found it. She's Insane-looking. And her music, she has a cover that's going really viral on TikTok right now. I love that stress. Of an old Frank Sinatra-typey song. I actually think you would like this girl's whole vibe. I've been meaning to tell you.

Yeah, I'll bookmark it.

And so he's someone who we've actually... And that's why people accuse him of what the kids are calling queer baiting. It's like, you use it for music videos, but where's your boyfriend?

To be honest, when you put it like that, that word comes to mind. Yeah, no. It's like, Well, are you? Yeah, talk the talk, but not walk the Walk.

That's been a criticism of Harry Style. I would personally love to see maybe Sean Mendez and Harry Style dating. That's a possibility now. Now, I actually don't think that they are compatible in a lot of different ways.

Because they're the same, right? It's like a magnet. You have two at the same end, and it doesn't click.

Yeah. What you're referring to is I think they're both tops. If I had to guess, and I don't know if this conversation is really out of pocket. I'm sorry if it is, but it's fine. I don't I don't think that they would be compatible.

Are you saying that they are of the top variety or that they're just of the same? Could they also both be bottoms?

Are you sure? I think it's possible.

But are they both... Are they the elk of tops?

Based on my I have a pretty extensive knowledge of gay culture, and I've been told I am a power bottom. I would identify, and you could be wrong about these things, but I would assume... Now, my gay friends, please, sound off in the comments if you agree. Also, Also, I don't know if speculating about somebody being a top or bottom is the most offensive thing. So I'm sorry if it is. I'm just having fun. Sorry in advance. I'm just happy for the... I'm excited for the possibilities of what's to come.

I feel like they'd be the elk of bottoms.

I feel like that really points to you not knowing much, honestly.

No, I feel like I have my reasons and we can chat- The elk of bottoms. I have my reasons and we can chat offline.

Okay, I would love to hear them.

I actually don't know if they're the same elk now that I think about my reasons.

So maybe they are compatible. Maybe they are. Like a positive and a negative charge.

That's what I'm saying, like a magnet.

Click. Click. This is just like- You're very excited for it because there's endless potential here.

If he could use questioning.

If he doesn't go the route of Harry styles and saying he's one thing, but then only dating girls.

Yeah, I don't think this is that, actually.

I don't think so either, but it really would be- Because he could have done that for years.

Instead, he's been really adamant that he is hetero. I think actually, if he's really opening up this door, it's because it's very real to him.

I have to imagine if he's sharing it. He's obviously done a lot of growth and discovery. I don't know. I just got to a place where at first I was like, Oh, maybe he is gay. But then he was so not. He said in so many... He spoke about it, too. Everyone's always talking about my sexuality, but I am what I am. That he really convinced me that he wasn't.

I feel like what Sean Mendens needs is space to figure it out. I agree. That's probably why I did not choose this story, because it's like, I don't even like talking about this so much, because it's like, he doesn't even know. So what do we know?

Right. But I guess the fact that he's admitting that he doesn't know is the first crack in the otherwise, what's going on?

No, I'm not. Yeah. But it's just like, I want to give him space.

I agree. The one thing he definitely needs is time and space to figure all this out.

Yes. Which means we have to wait.

I guess that's what we'll do because we literally have no choice. Yeah. Herd you back together.

And if that's true, you'll just have a taste me.

Actually, at the Diner today, they were playing Sabrina. She's everywhere.

She everywhere. And that is so good for society and humanity. You guys don't even know.

We're all eating breakfast.

We're getting a sprinkle of fairy dust.

So true.

As opposed to a storm cloud.

Just out of curiosity, what was the other fit story?

It was pretty big list news.

What was it?

The Forbes creator list.

Can we save it for tomorrow? Because that's actually, I feel, story number one type of material where we dive into what everybody makes.

Yes. I was putting it at the end for us to have a big runway.

Yeah, but I actually think-I'm happy to save it for tomorrow. Because I also want to look at the list and see what shocks me about how much money people make.

Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty good. We'll save that for tomorrow. A little teaser. We never do that.

That's what's going on tomorrow. That's what went on today.

A little tease.

Show a little skin by Sabrina Carpenter.

Stream it.

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