Transcript of Broke Bitches Should Never Laugh: Wednesday, October 30th, 2024

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to The Chose and Happy Wednesday, a Gargi Pargy Hump Day. Speaking of Gargi Pargy Humping, it's Jack's full life.

Gargi Pargy Energy. Hey, turtalu.

Gargi Pargy Energy. I have a hot take.

Okay.

I literally hate the word energy. And I use it. I'm not saying that people who use it are bad.

I thought you were going to say something else. I thought you were going to say you hate the word pargy because there has...

Oh my God. That would be me I'm saying I hate you.

I know. There have been a couple of people in the comments, I can't wait for pargy to cycle through. A couple haters, and I just thought, I don't know, I thought they got to you.

Jackie, you really can't take the feedback.

I thought that they got to.

You can't take feedback I feel like that seriously, honestly. And I've noticed this, too. I think internet culture, people, humanity in general, but specifically internet culture, people become especially insufferable during election season. And I feel like that's what you were receiving.

Yeah, for sure. I think I receive a lot of that, actually, if we're going to be I'll say this guy is blue, and they'll just not like it because it's election season.

Cloud-seating. Yeah. No, I'm telling you, everybody is definitely embracing the worst version of themselves, especially as Internet users. So that's probably what you were receiving when you heard people saying that they want Parjee to stop. I would never say that.

Okay, thank you so much. I knew that you wouldn't. I just got afraid. I was scared.

I gave you a fright?

You gave me a fright, all's to say.

All's to say that it's Wednesday. It's a Parjee day. Thank you. I don't like the word energy. Let's talk about energy. Yeah. I feel as though... You said this once about the word vibe, that the word becomes so overused, and you don't even remember what word it replaced. And so we're all saying, Big dick energy. Oh, it's good energy. What the hell are you talking about?

Yeah. And it's another one where I don't think it really replaced a tangible word. Therefore, it is here to stay. Ala, it's giving.

Correct.

So I think that as much as you might not want it part of your vernacular, you'll have to get comfortable seeing it.

Being uncomfortable.

And being uncomfortable, exactly.

I'm got to use to it at this point.

Yeah, but it is Gargi Pargy energy.

It is Gargi Pargy-ness, and we have a great show today. It's Wednesday, which means we have dear toosters, we have lots to do, we have stories.

We left you guys on a cliffhanger yesterday talking about the top creator. So that will be first, because I know some of you could not sleep last night wondering who the top creators are, according to source.

I am glad that we waited, because when I was in the tub yesterday, I actually read the whole thing, and I went through the list, and I have so many thoughts. So I'm glad that I was able to take time to do my research and development. And yeah, I'm looking forward to sharing what I have to share with the world.

Well, I hope that you will share.

I will share, and I will care.

That's beautiful. Also, speaking of creators, For myself, if you're listening to this, I just dropped a Patreon episode on our Patreon of what I did yesterday, the big reveal. Zack and I test drove Teslas, including a cyber truck. We vlogged the whole thing.

You drove it.

I drove the cyber truck.

I just don't believe it.

You have to watch the vlog. It is so funny. It's also educational if you're at all interested in Teslas. We looked at Model X, I drive a Model Y, and there's a cyber truck. So three different types of cars. But as I said in the video, I'm not trying to make a car facts video. Here are the best features. What are the vibes? Is it swirly? I'll let you know.

Now, I don't want to spoil the ending, but overall, give me one word, your impression of the truck.

Fan-fucking-tastic.

Oh, my God. She's literally getting a cyber truck. You guys, I can't.

No, watch the vlog. You'll see the pros and cons. For my lifestyle, practically speaking, I'm sorry, I'm not going to get a car as a bit. I have to put my groceries in there.

You have to put your family in there.

Actually, that part is the easiest part. There's a back row, two car seats, let's go. But like, groceries in the truck bed, I don't really think so. The frunk isn't as frunky as my frunk. You'll see all the pros and cons. But if you have the opportunity to test drive a cyber truck, take it because being inside of it is so awesome.

Patreon. Com/atoast, you're not going to want to miss this one.

You're really not. Honestly, you might want to buy some Tesla stock today because after that blog, it's going through the route. To I feel like you can't even make a joke like that because people will be like, Insider trading.

Please. If anybody... You know what? I was just about to make a joke that literally was going to land me in jail.

No, I know. I just want to say that was a joke. Tesla stock is over a trillion. There's nothing my little flock behind the paywall is going to do to change that.

I actually bought some Tesla stock a million years ago. I use one of those apps. I have a little bit of money in there, and I don't really tinker with it. I bought a couple of apps. I asked Brian at the time. I was like, What should I invest in? He's like, Invest in what you actually use. So I literally bought the real, real stock, Revolve stock. I guess I only shop at loser companies. Every single one is majorly down. And it's been two years. I don't even check it every day. I wanted to make some long term investments. I do think overall I'm down. Disney, that one's fine. I bought Etsy, too. Just really nothing that was to the moon.

You bought Dogecoin? Are you still sitting on your Doge? Yeah, I bought Dogecoin. Claudia was a part of Dogemania. I I don't know if you guys were tosters during that time, but Claudia bought Doge when it was going up and she was keeping us abreast on her earnings, and she was deciding whether or not to sell. I think also it was around the time like Elon and SNL, Doge went to the moon.

Here's what happened. Ready? Ben's friends actually were really on to Doge early on, and he was telling me about it. I was like, Okay. It was three cents. It was so crazy cheap, and they were like, It's going to the moon. I think I spent $20, literally. I had gotten a decent amount, and it was growing, and it was growing, and everybody was like, Hold it, hold it, hold it. Then when Elon went on SNL, that's when it peaked, and I was asleep. I woke up the next morning, and it never went back up again. I seriously missed the whole thing.

But it was going up for days. No, I think it- Of course, no.

It was weeks leading up. Then literally, Elon being on SNL Everybody sold it. It was just everyone was talking about it. He mentioned it on SNL Live. It was a hot button thing. I was asleep, and the next morning it was back down and it never went back up.

Yeah. Well, I'm sorry. That's classic. You try to get involved in something.

Yeah. No, so close to being somewhere.

Yeah. Just like your senior play.

Actually, I spoke to Olivia Asha this morning. What is it?

Five feet from stardom?

Fifteen feet from stardom. I spoke to Olivia Asha this morning, and she also had a crazy story about her senior play, Ready? Because she said she auditioned, and Olivia actually does.

Have a lovely voice.

If she was in another family, she would be the girl with a good voice. But she just lives in my shadows. But she does have a very pargylicious, very pretty voice.

Lovely, lovely voice.

She auditioned, and she told me what song... I spoke to her this morning. She told me what song it was. I don't remember. It was really weird. It was like, Let It Be or something. Like, really lame.

That's a classic song, though.

And she was like, It was so good. And there was three students running the production. They gave her a piece of shit roll. Olivia knew one of the girls, the theater girls had it out for her, and it was like a conspiracy theory in her own mind. And then at prom, the other two girls were like, We actually really wanted to give you the lead, but blank, blank wouldn't let us. Wow. So Olivia got confirmation of the corruption.

Wow. I think someone needs to do a deep dive into this. Ryan Murphy. How about the Ramaz senior play for your next one?

I do want to say that actually is a funny concept for a show that only Ryan Murphy could create. A senior play that goes all wrong. Yeah.

It's giving a politician ex-glee.

Yeah, exactly. Oh, my God. I'm so knee-deep in glee, and I'm so loving every minute of it. Last time I got to the episodes, well, it's just one episode, her first cameo, Gwyneth Paltrow. It's actually crazy. Me and Ben were saying, she She should have been the teacher for the whole show. And really, it's actually crazy how close Matthew Madison comes to ruining the show in its entirety. He's actually disgraceful. His character is disgusting. He's always doing the craziest, most inappropriate shit. It really shocked me. How many students are in his house at all times? Stop. It's really gross.

Hollywood, baby.

Seriously, they were trying to normalize it, and it's not normal. Sorry, I'm here to tell you.

No, it's not.

You should never see the inside of your teacher's home.

Yeah.

Okay, at one time, I saw the inside of my teacher's house.

Of a high school teacher or a college?

Middle school teacher. She was more than a teacher to me, Ms. Bightner. She meant a lot to me. And I forget why I went over to her house for dinner with three other students. I think we won a competition or something. She made us a London Broil. It was really good. Yeah, it was a night that meant a lot to me.

Oh, turdy.

We're taking a lot of trips down memory lane. Oh, wait. This is also our final episode before Toasta We. We haven't even talked about toasta We-y vibes.

We haven't talked about it because I don't want to spoil it or overhype it. It's going to be a moment in time, and I look forward to... You know me, I'm not really one for the theater, let's just say. But on Halloween, I leave it all on the episode.

Yeah. It's like what she couldn't give to her senior play, she gives to Halloween.

Once a year, you will get camp theater. Campio.

Yeah. I love that. I'm so excited. We'll have special guests coming through. So Toast to Wean, this is what? Our eighth?

Well, we could count. I think maybe. Should we count all of our costumes? Let's go in order.

So when we dress up as each other, Dark Times, and I know I've seen a lot of requests.

And that was the brand, so it doesn't really count. But sure.

I've seen a lot of It's best for people wanting us to do it again. And just so you know, Jack and I's relationship is far too fragile. We seriously can't.

And I just want you to know, we actually considered it this year when we were pretty desperate, and we decided it wasn't worth it. We still didn't do it. There's no way to do it without someone getting offended.

No way. Then it was the Kardashian's, and then it was the Jonas Brothers. Yes. Was it then Queen Elizabeth?

Then it was the Royal family. Then it was Ryan and Sharpe. Then it was- The Kelsias? Kelsias Brothers, and then it's this year. This is our seventh. That makes sense. We're in our seventh. I feel like we're missing something.

Are we forgetting one?

Forgettable. Yikes.

Literally. What do you think is our most forgettable one?

Well, they're all amazing, so it would have to just be the worst of the best, but maybe Ryan and Sharpe.

Agreed.

But I still loved it, and I had so much fun.

Of course. And we were so obsessed with high school musical. At the time, it was so authentic.

Okay, by the way, we're always obsessed with high school musical.

One thing about us-No, but at the time, we had both just rewatched it.

I just came up with a really good idea for Halloween.

Tomorrow, you mean?

Text it to me. Let me text it to you right now. It could be an emergency head to party city situation.

An emergency head to party city situation. Okay, I haven't gotten it yet.

It could be. You let me know. We could also save it.

Oh, no, it's not good.

It's not good? Should I tell them what it was?

Yeah.

Really?

Yeah, I don't think we'll ever do it. I don't think it's good.

Miley and Jackson. That would be so funny.

Like, shot Jackson.

I think I would have to be Jackson.

Did you see Jackson actually is making waves in the media?

No.

Over the weekend, there was the premiere for the Wizards of Waverly place, like, Reboot or whatever they're doing. So everyone showed up, and Jackson actually said, I had actually pitched this idea for Hannah Montana to Disney people a year ago, and the timing wasn't right. But hopefully this works out and it does well, and it'll open up opportunities for all these other shows to have reboots.

Jackson, I love you so much, and I love where your head's at because yes, me too. I want more Hannah, but no. Let Hannah- Sleeping dogs. There's no way. And Again, it causes the same issue. Even if they do it well, it's like, who is it for? I want to watch it, but then am I watching a kid show? And the kids of today could never appreciate the Hannah that we had. So it's not meant to be. I don't even think this Wizards of Wavelry place is That's not great of an idea. Sorry.

Speaking of Selena, I finished Only Mortars in the Building last night. The last episode came out, and I just want to say it was good, but it was bad, and it was really confusing, and I still don't understand who did it and why.

Who done it? I'm sorry, turdy.

I'm back on my La Croix, like I never left.

I'm back on my Nespresso.

We've a lot to do today.

We do, and I feel like that's why we're dragging our feet.

I know. I know. But we'll feel good once it's done.

And also, this is the last... It's as if we don't have a show tomorrow, because tomorrow, we're not us. We're in character. We're other people. Yeah. So Jacky and Claudia will see you on Friday. It's so true. Who will be here tomorrow? I couldn't tell you.

I mean, I I said, but I won't.

I guess let's get into, because we have a lot to do, and the cards can only sustain for so much energy in a non-Claudia-irritating way. Without further here are the Fast Five stories that you need to know.

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Our first story, finally at long last, if you didn't Google it after yesterday's episode, now you may know the Forbes top creators of 2024. So are you ready to hear who they are? I am.

I thought, did you feel like the list was so strange? Because as I was reading the order, the amount of money... Because I thought you would make the list based on how much money you make. But it didn't go in numerical order. There were people who were number 12 who made more money than people in number 5. They did it based on their own ranking system, which is interesting.

Yeah, because it doesn't say highest earning creators. It doesn't say that it's just a list of top to bottom. I think they also editorialize it a little bit. They have their entrepreneurship score. If someone has a high score for doing entrepreneurial things-I thought that was interesting.as opposed to just getting brand deals or monetizing their YouTube channel. Do they have other brands? Have they started a company? I think they use that to be like, This is a top creator.

I thought that entrepreneurship score was really interesting. Kind of like shady, no? Because if you just make your money with brand deals, that's not a really dynamic or creative way of making a living. Then there was a blurb about them. It's like, This person has a book, a tour, a podcast, all these different things. It was shady when it was like, Oh, they work with different brands.

Yeah. Let's see who they were shady towards. Even though I feel like really entrepreneurial, the first number one creator I feel like is the entrepreneur- And by the way-of creators. That should set the bar for the entrepreneurship score because he does a things, and that's Mr. Beast. His earnings, Forbes said, are $85 million this year. He has a total following of $503 million, million followers. Oh, my God.

I was like, Wait, what?

He has an entrepreneurship score of four. Let's just say that that's the highest score. I didn't see anyone higher.

I didn't see anyone higher either. I think that creating... What is his main YouTube, right? But he has MrBeast Chocolates. He has that Lunchly Company. There are so many other ways to create and generate revenue beyond the stereotypical influencer type of ways. He's a good He's an example of somebody who does a million different things.

Yeah. He has an Amazon show coming out called Beast Games. We love talking about Mr. Beast.

He gets in a lot of trouble. I just think when you're seriously at that level, Well, did you see the drama now with Lunchly? Do you know what this is about? No. Him and Logan Paul started a company together that I actually think is really smart. I didn't even know that. It's a modern take on Lunchables, and it has Mr. Beast's chocolates in it and a prime in it. But it's supposed to be less processed and just a more forward, modern version of Lunchables. And this girl, I don't know what type of content she makes. She was doing a review comparing Lunchables to Lunchly, and she opened the Lunchly, and it was covered in mold. I It's like, people obviously loved that and ran with it.

Was it expired? It's everywhere.

No. She had just bought it.

That's not good. And as we love to say, do better beast.

Do Better Beast. Do Better Beast, although I do think it's actually a really good concept for a company. Kids are obsessed with prime. It's like, seriously, remember where you had those silly bands, animal band bracelets, how you would die for one? That's what kids, they collect primes. If you give them a healthy lunch with a prime in it, they'll probably eat it.

Yeah. I am on the prime PR list and the Mr. Beast PR list, so I would never- So am I. I don't want to step out of line. I also don't have anything negative to say. I also share the PR with my neighbors who are young boys who are obsessed.

They're It's obsessed, right? Obsessed. It's the best gifting I could give. I think that he's deserving of the first spot. I don't know who else I would even choose.

A hundred %. This is so funny because when I think of creators, I think of creators that I know and follow in the beauty, lifestyle space.

But there are so many other gamers, that kid who reviews toys. The creators that I know aren't the only creators. Why is it Alex Earle number one?

Alex Earle and Alex Earle. And Mikaela.

I want to talk about Mikaela.

Number two, Darman. He earned $45 million.

Do you know who Darman is?

I do not. Can't say that I do.

Did anybody else actually have their jaw hit the floor when they saw how much money Darman made? You've probably seen, I don't know, it's more so on TikTok, but there are these really corny, staged, dramatized PSA's, where it's like a roommate is drinking her roommate's orange juice and doesn't refill it. It's like teaching people valuable life lessons in a really stupid, corny way.

Forbes calls it a modern take on the after-school special. Yes.

A year or two ago, they started going so viral on TikTok, and everybody was like, What are these videos? Then somebody really explained, It's Darman. This is what he does. I was shocked when I found out how much money he made. I didn't know you made money in this line of work. I just love to see people getting creative.

Yeah. He tackles bullying, racism, inequality as subjects for his videos that his team of more than 150 produce for his 23 million YouTube subscriber channel.

I mean, there was one on fat phobia that really Really stuck with me as a youth myself. Did it? Yeah. This girl went to this event, and it was an open seat next to her, and the girl was heavier. And there was one seat left, and this girl showed up late, and she didn't want to sit next to the overweight girl. And they do it in a way where it's not actually emotive. You're not evoking. I'm not going to cry while watching it. It's cringe, but it's hilarious.

It drives home the point.

And it's driving home the revenue. I'm shocked. How much did he make?

$45 million.

No fucking way.

This says, Over the last year, he earned an estimated $45 million via Google AdSense and brand partnerships, and he also runs a creator agency and a beauty brand.

So interesting thing about these lists that I feel like people don't know. It's very similar to Forbes 30 Under 30. They don't just choose you, right? You apply and you have to submit your tax returns. You can't say, Hi, I'm Darman, and I made $50 million. You have to substantiate it with paperwork. So sometimes they'll include people who didn't apply, who who are private about their money, and they don't want it. Because I think a lot of... My first thought was, I felt like a lot of people were missing from this list. And then you have to think, some people don't want other people knowing how much money they made.

Yes. But then I also think someone like Mr. Beast or the Paul brothers, they have to be on this list, whether or not they apply and share their tax returns. Forbes can take a stab at estimating how much they made. But if they only went by who applied, then they're not going to capture the biggest fish.

I don't think Mr. Beast applied, but it's obvious.

I don't think Mr. Beast Just applying.

I think he's above applying. But I just find it interesting for the people that-I think we'll get down to the application section soon. Yes.

I think right now we're in the above applying section.

I agree.

Number three, Matt Ryfe, earning $50 million with an entrepreneurship score of three. So even though he earned more than our man, apparently he's less entrepreneurial, thus he's number three. So you'll see a lot of that. I'm not going to explain it every time.

Yeah, I was shocked to see Matt Reif there. I feel like Matt Reif got a really big Live Nation deal over the course of one or two years because he was on this list, or one of these lists last year and this year. And it's like, they keep putting him on for the same deal. And that might be why his entrepreneurial chip score is lower. Although being on the road is hella entrepreneurial.

Yes. You forget, he really got his start on social media. I think this is a good... I would have forgotten. I would have just put him on a list of comedians. But yes, he is a creator, and That's what he does. Number 4, always a fan favorite, Charlie D'Amelio. This year, apparently, she earned $23 million. She has an entrepreneurship score of 4.

Yeah, she does a lot.

She does a lot. She really does.

It's not just brand deal. She starts her own company. She's on Broadway. That's a good score.

Yeah. Number 5, the Stokes twins, $20 million. So 10 each.

I had never heard of the... Not you being shady. I was unfamiliar with these people. That wasn't me being shady.

That was me like, that's There's two of them. Reminding you. There's two of them. One in one.

I don't know them. I hadn't heard of them.

I don't know them, but they're identical twin brothers. I'm going to scroll with you. Who lead one of YouTube's fastest-growing channels. Their videos of pranks, challenges, and vlogs. There's entrepreneur score of three. I'm going to call that an ES. It's a mouthful. An ES score of three. They're identical twin brothers who lead one of YouTube's fastest-growing channels. Their videos of pranks, challenges, and blogs regularly track more than 40 million views. It's giving classic YouTubers.

Yeah, but I had never heard of them, so that's not that classic. Maybe they're just very Gen Z.

Maybe. Mazel Tov. Are they related to Chase Stokes? They don't not look like him. I was thinking the same thing. Claudia, they don't not look like him.

They look like the Sprouse twins.

I thought the same thing. They look like the Brown hair Sprouse twins.

Yeah.

Okay. Maybe they get by on looking like people. Next, Dixie D'Amelio, $14 million earnings. I don't know on the list of... I love Dixie, so no shade, no hate. But number six on top creator is like, Okay, go Dix.

I agree. I really like Dixie D'Amelio. But when you think about all the people out there who are doing creative things, making a lot of money, making lots of news, lots of views, really Dixie D'Amelio does not come to mind. She barely posts anymore. She's She probably makes a...

Then Jake Paul.

Right. She probably makes a lot of money. And her entrepreneurship score being four. I feel like the D'Amelio family has a really good team around them, and they start all these companies, and they do all these things. But the girls aren't necessarily driving that. This is giving I applied.

And that, what you just said, is a high entrepreneurship score, though. If you can get to a place where it's not your person driving everything, that's actually a good thing to do. But yeah, six seems high. But Dix at 6, maybe they liked how it rhymed.

It's high.

It is. But Mazlitov to Dixie. She deserves the world. Number seven, Mark Rober. He earned $25 million with an ES of three. He's a former NASA engineer turned super creator who does science-focused content and dramatically teaches it.

I like that. I like people on here doing different weird things. And whenever you're looking for... Whether you're doing homework or you're trying to teach yourself how to knit, you Google a YouTube How do I do this? And there are people who are taking a lot of time out of their days to make these instructional educational videos. And you'd love to see them making $25 million a year.

You really do. I think I just realized something about the list, which I'll get to. I like it. I like science, men in stem.

Men in stem.

So congratulations to Mark. Next number 8, Alex Cooper earning $22 million, ES of 4.

First podcaster.

First podcaster.

On the list.

Yeah, but I'm sure some of these other people, and especially on the list, they might eventually have a podcast, too.

But like, coming up-Not a podcaster by trade. Right.

Podcaster first. Right. So you love to see that.

Rhett and Link, who are number nine. I don't know them, but people... It's like the try guys, Jackie. People love them.

Claudia, I think I figured out how to find out who applied. Oh, how? Look at the pictures. If they're in a Polaroid that was taken by Forbes, then they sat for this. Start scrolling.

Oh, you're 100% right.

If it's just a stock photo, then...

Okay, so so far, Darman took a photo for Forbes.

Matt, Rife didn't. Tixie didn't. Maybe not. There's very few Polaroids, actually.

We'll see. If we get lower and everybody has a Polaroid, then yeah.

There's definitely more Polaroids towards the bottom.

Okay. So yeah, Cabe Lame, classic TikToker. His entrepreneurship score is a three. I feel like he just works with big companies.

Okay, let's get back to the list. We'll test this theory later. Who are Rettling?

I have no idea.

Okay, cool.

I just know people like them. Good mythical morning. Yeah, that's their thing. It's like, spooky.

It's giving Good Morning, millennials. Agreed. Next, Kabi Lame.

Cool.

The Charlie Chapman of digital media.

Cool.

Next, Drew. I love him.

And honestly, I like to see him getting legitimate credit as being a real creator because like, Jackie, he's the guy from Goat Vaccination Spot with Jack Harlow. And he said, It's his vacation, dumbass. He has a lot of really viral moments. He's very funny.

That is really funny. Okay. Yeah. Number 12, Logan Paul, $9 million. And then 13 is Jake Paul, $13 million.

Interesting that Jake Paul makes more money than Logan, and interesting that Logan is higher up on the list, even though he makes less money.

I just feel like this is one where they guessed it, and I think that they low-balled because Prime, the fighting, doesn't he make that much in a fight?

By the way, Prime. Prime outsold Gatorade last year.

Right. So $9 million, sure. They don't have a Polaroid. I don't think they applied.

I'm in agreement. Lots of siblings on this list. You love to see that. You do.

Number 14, Emma Chamberlain. Classic. $9 million, ES score of 4.

And by the way, Emma Chamberlain is notoriously private about money. I've heard her talk about it on a podcast before, so she definitely did not apply for this list, and she doesn't have a polar rate either.

So so far, it tracks.

The theory is good.

'15.

Because so far, the only people up there is like, Darman. Like, he would.

Yeah.

If I was Darman, I would want people to know.

And Alex Max Cooper has a Polaroid, but I feel like she does a lot of press. And a lot of Forbes. And all her money is always out there with these deals. It's not a secret. Why wouldn't she do something like this? 15. Andre, typical gamer, Rubello.

Gamer.

I'm unfamiliar. We'll just leave it at that. He made $80 million, so gaming pays. Mark, Markiplier, Fishback. It's funny how everyone has their little nickname. Girl with no job. Claudia, Girl with no job, Ashray.

You're telling me Mark Fishback isn't Haley Joel-Ozman? They look like twins. This is the first time I'm seeing this person.

Yeah, maybe they're related. You said a lot of siblings.

See, look, he's number 16. He made $32 million. He has 70 million followers. How is he below Dixie D'Amelio? That's where this list loses me.

Yeah, but he has an ES score of two, so they don't really like what he's doing.

Yeah.

17. Marcus Brownly, $10 million. Es score of four. Has a Polaroid.

I feel like that tracks because I don't really know him.

Yeah, he does tech reviews.

He does tech, like gadgets. That's cool.

That's big business. 18. Brent Rivera, $11 million. Es score of 3. Has a Polaroid.

Definitely submitted himself. He does really corny family channel type of TikToks. And I want to say, I'm noticing a trend. I feel like a lot of the people who I believe to have submitted themselves via the Polaroid theory. It's very Gen Z, and it's very TikTok.

Yeah. And people who like... There's not a lot, but there are a lot of them. If you want to be noticed, you might have to put yourself in front of them. That's fair. 19. Adam W. $15 million. Es score of two. No Polaroid.

He's a classic. Okay. No Polaroid. I believe that.

Yeah. Number 20. Danny Austin. $13 million. Es score of three. No Polaroid.

So I think some people would say, Well, the Polaroid theory is defunct because Dane Austin...

Then you don't know Dane Austin.

If you really follow social media and you've followed what Dane Austin has done in the last couple of years, it's not shocking that she's on this list, and I don't think she submitted herself. People don't realize she literally makes so much money.

Yeah. Mostly from Divi. Well, one, being a successful influencer, she has 3 million followers, but Divi is her hair care brand, which slaps. It's sold everywhere now, so that makes sense.

Number 21 is the classic... People are always talking about this kid, Ryan. Have you heard about him? No. He unboxes and reviews toys. It's all It's the cutest sweetest channel. If you're looking for any details on a toy for your child, he does toy reviews. For a while, a couple of years ago, he was the number one earner on YouTube. He crushes, and he's 11.

Wow, well, $35 million earnings, but he has an ES score of one, probably just because he makes his money from ads. He has to go to school. Yeah.

He does his videos, and he doesn't have time to write a book.

Yeah. Then next, Ms. Rachel earnings $11 million, ES score of I agree. What is her entrepreneurial? I feel like that's the opposite of what she does. She always just does her videos.

It's giving Ryan. If I was Ms. Rachel, I would be number one, and I would have made $100 million. Ms. Rachel is not a capitalist, and that's fine. Not everyone has to be hustle, hustle. But let me know. If I had my pulse, if I had my finger on the pulse of a young generation in the way that she does, books, movies- Ms..

Mitchell branded toys that she only plays with.

I would have a billion dollar brand.

Or even partner with a Fisher Price, come out with a... She's She's just really not... I bet she has said that. She doesn't give a rip.

She has said that. She's not doing this. She makes a lot of money, and that's more than enough for her. She doesn't need.

But why does she have an ES score of three?

I don't know. The ES score is a little confusing. She also doesn't have a Polaroid.

She did not apply. She did not apply. She probably burns Forbes magazines in her backyard. 23, Sean Jack Spicety McLafflin.

Okay. Okay, let's just move on. I don't know who that is. And he doesn't have a Polaroid.

Number 24, Ky Sonat.

I thought this was low.

Low? Earning?

Low on the list. He is the most famous Twitch streamer. I actually just saw he released a promo because he's doing 30 days of nonstop streaming in November, and they had Kim Kardashian in the video. He is huge. He started Prime with Logan Paul.

Oh, wow.

I was surprised to see him this low.

Maybe I just don't like those guys.

I don't think that they do.

They said he made $8 million. He has an ES score of two.

Right. And that's just not true.

Even though he started Prime.

Yeah, right. I don't like it.

Next, nick Merck's called Jeff, $13 million, a Another Twitch guy, ES score of three.

Yeah. Okay.

Next, nick DiGiovani.

I know you don't know him. I do. He's probably one of the biggest cooking/chef people on TikTok, in really Very high quality videos.

He's the first chef because there's a lot of creators who do food. Interesting that he's the first one on the list with earnings of $5 million, ES score of 4.

And interesting, it says he went to Harvard. I didn't know that.

No wonder the ES score is high. 27, Josh Richards, $6 million, ES score of 3.

I would have said that Josh Richards submitted himself because honestly-I don't think so.

I think, one, he doesn't have a Polaroid, and two, I think he makes more than what they estimated.

I feel like he's I feel the way about him as I do about Dixie. Perhaps at one point in time- Think of BFFs. Yeah, I know. He's on a popular podcast. That's actually it. I don't know why his entrepreneur- He has 35 million followers. Yeah, but And by the way, there are a lot of people on TikTok, not that it's anything to snaff at, but there are a lot of people with 10s, 20s, 30s million followers. I don't know. I feel like Josh Richards is random on this list.

He advises lifestyle brands, including vegan clothing company Unhigh, Unhide. Are those the blankets? I don't know. You know Unhide Blankets? Mm-mm. Oh, they're Parjilicious.

I only know Manky Couture.

No, that's awesome. They're both pretty Parj.

Mm-hmm.

Next, Felix, QXC, Lengiel.

Twitch streamer who made $36 million. Happy for him. Number 29, Zack King. I thought he would be way higher. I'm not sure if you know him, but when it comes to putting out premium content and working with the world's most fancy brands, he He does a video, 100 million views. Oh, okay. It's magical. He does magical realism, if you will.

100 million views on TikTok or on YouTube?

Oh, everywhere.

So his earnings seem low, but he doesn't have a point, right? Yeah, No, they probably couldn't guess.

I think they got it wrong.

Number 30, Alex Earle, earnings 8 million, ES score of 2.

That feels right, both of those. I feel like $8 million is what she makes. I thought this was interesting because I think last year when the list came out, so many people were on it, and this is how I was going to say about Mikaela Nguera. She was on it. It said she made $1 or $2 million. It is because she had just blown up, and the earnings for the year prior didn't match up to the earnings. So these, I feel for all the people that really blew up during the 2022, 2023 era, like Mikaela J. Makeup, Alex Earle. I feel like these are the first time we're going to see accurate numbers in terms of how much money they make, and that's why I found the list so interesting.

Yeah. Number 31, Livy Dun, $4 million, ES score of three. I feel like there are a lot of random creators who make about $4 million a year. And so why now? Why this Libby done? Because she was in the background of our vlog at Luke Holmes. Probably. She made $4 million from that, huh?

Probably.

But she's cute. She doesn't offend me. But I just feel like now we're getting into could have been anyone.

Yeah. Now it's who just made their way across someone's desk. Addison being number 32 and allegedly only making $3.4 million does not sound right to me.

Me neither.

Although she did take off quite a bit of time, and maybe her tax return that she submitted had that time period. I don't know.

I don't know. But doing movies and music and still brand deals, $3.4 million, doesn't feel right. It doesn't. Number 33, Mikaela Noguera, Claudia's favorite, earning seven million ES score of two.

Yeah, I thought this was interesting. One, her ES score is low, but she really does makeup, and she makes her makeup videos, and she does makeup brands and makeup clubs. She doesn't stray. I I actually think that's why she's so successful. She doesn't try and do a million things. Her talent is makeup, her knowledge is makeup, and she never leaves the space. And honestly, what is she going to do? A podcast? It's good.

No, but if she started a makeup line, then it would go up.

I guess. But I think that's how a lot of people actually end up flopping. I agree. It's good. Just interesting that I would argue she's one of the most mainstream successful TikTokers in terms of brand deals and brand trips. And interesting that she made $7 million. I just find that interesting.

That feels a little low, don't you find? Yeah. But she doesn't have a Polaroid. However, she did take a picture on a background that does look Forbesy.

Like a headshot-y vibe. Yeah.

Just something to consider.

There actually are quite a few people with... Maybe it's not the Polaroid. Okay. Maybe it's not the Polaroid. Okay. Maybe it's like... Actually, I don't know.

Wait, by the way. Everybody has a- Also, when they give an image credit, like Getty Images, they definitely took it from Google. Oh, you're right. But when there's no image credit, they took the picture.

If there's no image credit, it's that person submitted.

Or it's from an old Forbes thing that they participated in. Alex Earle's picture is Forbes.

No credit. Libby Dunes is Forbes. Addison Reyes is not. Mikaela's is. Jake Shane's is not.

Yeah. Jake Shane's is not. So Jake Shane is number 34, $6 million. Es score of two.

At number 35, Alexa Rivera. Jackie, she's Brent. Remember I was saying, up a couple of...

Yeah. Yeah. Sibling. That's her sister. Oh, cool. We both pronounced her last name wrong because it's Rivera. We threw an I in there.

My bad. My bad.

Cute. At number 36, Bayly Sarian.

Yeah, she does her makeup while talking about death, and people love it. I had heard of her before.

Oh, cool.

Yeah.

Number 37, Flagee Johnson. She's a basketball player.

Kind of like Libby Dunn. Two LSU students. That's interesting.

$7 million. Number 38. Ijustine. Let's talk about Ijustine, who's been doing this since 2007 and is still on the list. Credit to her.

I want to say credit to Ijustine as well, to make it this long in this industry. And actually follow her on TikTok. I get cool iPhone hacks from her. Good on you.

Good on you. Number 39, Alan Chicken Chou.He.

Has one-YouTube Shorts.

1 billion viewers a month. Shorts? Not the Shorts. That's interesting. Number 40, Nara Smith, $6 million.

I do think that Nara Smith is... In terms of the numbers they were running, I think that she made most of her money this year, and I think that the tax returns are from the year prior.

But she didn't blow up until this year with Joe Jones dating Stormy. Maybe, yeah, that was this year. So this is not a tax return. This is a guesstimate, I think.

Because this feels low. Although what's interesting about Nara Smith is that the way she does cooking, like homesteading, and the route she chose is to take is in fashion. And that's not the highest paying industry. If you want to make the most money as an influencer, you'll work with Walmart as opposed to Ralph Lauren. But she does Ralph Lauren and Hourglass Cosmetics. Not the most... I think brands that typically pay less, but they're more fabulous.

Yeah. Marc Jacobs, that one went viral, the tote bag. I think she'll be higher on the list next year. Give me two. But I think she's doing great things.

The next two are TikTokers, who I know you don't know, but they have good platforms. I think that they could have been... No, I think they're placed right. I just find it interesting because I feel like they're at the same level. But it says, Monet, McMichael makes $8 million, and Drew makes $2 million.

Drew has more followers and a higher entrepreneurship score.

Well, Monet is very much like Mikaela Jay. She sits, she does makeup, she does a brand deal, she goes on brand trips. She's not doing anything besides what she knows, which is makeup.

Okay.

And Drew, I don't really know what her beat is, but she does a I see her around doing red carpet stuff. She hustles more, but she makes less money.

She's someone who has a Polaroid and $2 million. I see.

Applied. Applied, yeah.

No shame in it, by the way.

None.

43. Jordan, the stallion, $4 million. I remember this. Es score of two. Polaroid.

Haley Bailey is a TikTokeer. She's number 44. She's actually a huge TikTokeer. She should be on this list.

Great. And she is.

Yeah, that's good.

45. Ian Boggs, $1.6 million. Es score of three and a Polaroid. Yeah, I think there are probably dozens of influencers who make this amount who could have been on this list, and it's just him for editorial reasons.

No, it's him because he has 34 million followers. And this is what is so interesting about the internet. You can have 34 million followers and make $1 million a year. And you can have 1 million followers and make $34 million a year. Just because you have 34 4 million followers, he has more followers than most people on this list, and he's fifth to last.

Got it.

That's what's interesting.

Also, I just scroll down to methodology. I feel like we do this every time. But to make the list, they estimated each creator's gross earnings between June 2023 and June 2024. Okay. We count earnings, not equity held in public and private companies. Our partners at influential provided follow-up counts across-Oh, I guess that's prime. Okay.

That's what it count.

I don't know. For the entrepreneur rank, they scored candidates one to four scale, ranging from people who make most of their money from traditional advertising to folks who are building their own companies, brands, and services.

I just want to say we don't have to go through the last five. They're all interchangeable TikTokers who I see on my For You page that are not necessarily...

And there's a lot of Polaroids and not credited images.

There you go.

What are your thoughts?

I feel like I'm such a nosy person, and lists like this make me happy because I'm finding things out. I want to know. In this industry, I know what I make, and I know how many followers I have, and I want to know what other people do. How am I doing compared to other people? I think a lot of people are obsessed with knowing how much money influencers make. They want the dollars and cents. Lists like this really feed that curiosity, myself included. Yeah.

Do you feel fed? I do. Does that feel right, according to your comments?

I don't know who specifically, but I do feel like people are missing from this list. It's really interesting to note there. Maybe podcasters aren't considered creators. Would you consider Tim Dylan a creator?

Yeah, that's where it starts to get a little confusing because he's a comedian.

Because I feel like there actually are a lot of podcasters missing from this list.

Where are all the fashion girlies? The Revolve Girls.

That's no longer the way.

It's minimum $2 million.

Yeah, but I think when you are making this list, like they said, there's many different factors and methods, and one of them is relevance, right? So yeah, you maybe still are earning a living back in the Instagram blogger revolved days. But that's really not what people think of anymore when they think of creators. They think of TikTokers and streamers and Twitchers.

Yeah, but there should be a little bit of everything.

Actually, I don't agree. I think that what we define as a creator constantly changes. I actually wouldn't really consider those bloggery revolved girlies as creators. I think of them really as influencers. And I think the two are different. Okay. And I just find it interesting that I think they included Alex Cooper not really as a podcaster. She is also a creator. She has tons of followers. I don't know. I feel like there are podcasters missing. I just think about it because I'm a podcaster, and I know if you have a podcast of a certain size, you are making significant revenue, and more so than most of the people on this list.

Yeah, I think it's more probably comes down to a lack of application and presenting funds.

Or maybe are we considering podcasters who aren't also influencers, people who just podcast for a living? Are we considering them? Is Tom Segura a creator?

My brain is broken by all these different terms. Words.

I know.

Yeah.

Is Joe Rogan a creator? Because he would be number one on the list. No. Okay. No.

But Tim Dylan is more of a creator to me.

But he's actually technically a comedian.

So is not right. He has a Patreon.

You're creating. I don't know. Where did we draw the line? I don't know.

I'm sure they have this internal battle as well.

Yeah.

Moving on.

Our next story- How did Burner should have been on that list? Yeah. Maybe she didn't want.

Podcaster and creator. I'm sure people don't want. Comedian. I'm sure there are people who don't want who can't avoid it. Like, I'm in Chamberlain.

Yeah. No matter what your preferences are, if you're at a certain level, they're going to include you on the list. But I think also the whole thing with being a creator and a podcaster, excuse me, an Instagrammer, influencer, whatever you want to call it, is your whole shtick is relatability. And you're able to make millions off of that. But if people were to see it in black and white, you would lose that sense of relatability. I think a lot of people are wary of lists like this.

Our next story, Love is Dead. Channing Tatum and Zoe Kravitz have split after three years together, and they've called off their engagement.

Love is Dead.

What?

I was really shocked by this.

Me too. I told you, yesterday, there's been a lot of shocking news. Shocking. To me, this is one of those things. What?

I don't know. When you are both so good-looking and famous and your best friends with Taylor Swift, what is there to fight about?

Of course, they're an unlikely couple, right?

Because he- Yeah, but I've moved past that because it's been three years. Right.

We've moved past the unlikeliness similar to Kim Kardashian, and P. Davidson, and Kristen, and Mark. However, those were seven months. This was three years. They were engaged.

No, and she just did that movie, and he was in it, and she produced it, and everyone was like, Hi, being up.

What the hell happened? What could come between them now? They They knew each other. They knew who the other was. They're adults. It's not like they've changed that much in the last three years. I'm upset. I'm in shock. They were engaged. They called off the wedding.

What the hell? I would just get married so Taylor Swift would come to my wedding and then get divorced.

I'm so heartbroken. Confused. And confused, yeah.

Like, actually confused.

Maybe we'll find out more in time.

Maybe.

Maybe they just got tired of each other.

I mean, that's a marriage, though.

Yeah, but it's like they're not married. So maybe now is the time to call it.

Something must have happened because as of recently, they were both promoting that movie together. They were working together. They were living together. They were loving together. What happened?

You think something happened? I need to know.

It only makes sense if that... I don't know. He seems like a very... I know he's this big heartthrob. He seems like a very one-woman type of man. He's into relationships. He was with his wife and then Jessie J. He doesn't date a lot. They both seem like very stable and sound of mind individuals. Not like one of them went off the deep end and was partying and cheating. I don't know.

I don't know either. I do want to know. I was thoroughly surprised.

As was I.

And not happy. No. I do think for a lot of people, they had a lot riding on this relationship in terms of they really shipped them. I'm thinking of you guys today.

Yeah, me as well.

And we'll leave it at that until we know more.

Yeah. And I don't think we are going to know more, which is annoying.

Are you ready for our next story? I am. It's a little music news because- You've got the music in you? I always have the music in me, as does now Travis, Kelsey, because he and Jason are giving a sneak peek of their song together on the new Christmas album.

So every year- Oh, yeah. Jason does this.

Jason does a Christmas album. I think last year- With the Eagles. Yeah, with the Eagles. But it's Jason's thing, I think, or at least that's how I see it. And last year, people thought maybe Taylor would go on or Travis. But this year, Travis is going on. They posted a sneak peek to social media featuring Travis showing off his singing skills in his new song, It's Christmas Time in Cleveland Heights. So they said, What? This is a song that came out of this great brain. I feel like it tickles the nerve that we've not done yet. I also think when Travis hears it, he's going to be very excited about it, Jason said, of the song.

I think this is the sweetest thing that Jason and Kelsey does. He does it every year. He raises a ton of money for his community. All the eagles get involved in. It's this fun thing that the fans love. I'm happy Travis is a part of it, but Taylor should really get in there. It's so unserious.

It's time. Maybe when they're married.

It's time.

That would be amazing.

She's very like, Oh, a lot of people are freaking out because... I'm sure you didn't see this because it's really for the chronically online. But Olivia Rodrigo's music video, Netflix thing came out, and people noticed in the credits because in a concert DVD, you have to give all the songwriting credits. So in Deja Vu, there's Jack Antonoff Taylor Swift. But then there's this line. It's a legal disclaimer about Deja Vu. This song embodies portions of Cruel Summer by Taylor Swift. And a lot of people are just obviously clinging on to that because we never really got closure on what happened with those two.

So deja vu was the song that was- There was a few. Between them? Because what's the one that sounded like New Year's Day? That's what I remember.

But she did sample New Year's Day, right? She didn't just steal it. She took the New Year's Day melody and played it backwards as an homage.

Jack Antonoff and Taylor Swift have writing credits on Deja Vu on the concert DVD because it sounds like Deja Vu or because she was in the studio with Jack Antonoff.

No, because they say it embodies portions of Cruel Summer, which is so funny because actually, Yeah, you listen to One Step Forward, Two Step Back. It sounds like New Year's Day. You hear it. You listen to Deja Vu. I don't even hear Cruel Summer. But apparently, in a legal sense, something must be... You can't just... There must be legal validity to it.

Damn.

No, and Jackie, when the credits are rolling, all the songs of a couple of songwriters, and then under Deja Vu, there's three paragraphs.

Okay, so there it is in black and white.

There it is, yeah.

Sort of. You think that's came between them as friends, even though Olivia complied.

1,000 %.

You don't think it was Congress with her being a big fan of hers and inspired by her and then giving her the credit? No, of course.

But the timeline- So who's mad at who in that? I think Olivia is mad at Taylor.

For coming after her?

And maybe for stealing her moment? I don't know.

Yeah.

Taylor is like, Listen, you could do it, but you got to give... You know, Taylor is a litigious queen, an artist writes, and Listen, you're going to take my hook, make millions off of it? That doesn't really work.

Yikes. I guess a friendship can't come back from that.

Oh, no. But I actually saw a supercut of all the women's Taylor and Olivia were Bessies. I I forgot that there was that one year period where they were obsessed with each other. She gave her the Red Ring. She released Fearless Taylor's version and had her and Konan Gray make all these little music video things for it. There was a lot. Then up, Years before that, Olivia Rodrigo just posting on social media all about Taylor Swift, her singing covers. There's deep lore there.

Yeah. Yikes.

Yeah.

I feel weird.

Yeah. So all that to say, Taylor is a very business-oriented. And I don't think her just hopping on this random charity album. I think her people, maybe if they reached out, her people might have stalled it. Like, Oh, well, we need to red-line this contract.

Yes, but I feel for charity, she really She would be down.

She's very charitable.

For anything. She could do a cover of Christmas tree farm and maybe give Travis a verse. Maybe he could write a little rap or something.

We are going to start talking about it soon because the season is upon us. But when we talk about modern, original Christmas music, we really don't talk about Christmas tree farm enough as really being top tier.

It's so true.

Obviously, Underneath the tree by Kelly is amazing. All I want for Christmas. Those have become classics. I think that Christmas tree farm is grossly underrated. She released There wasn't a big hoopla around it. She had recorded it really fast and just gave it to us one day. I don't know if there was a music video. She didn't do a lot of promo for it, and maybe that's why, but it's so good.

I think it needs its own moment. I think on the Jason, Kelsey, Philly A Special Christmas album would be a really great time for that.

And then what's that other one? Ariana Grande has one that really- Santa, tell me if you're really there. Is it Santa, Can You... Santa, Tell Me If You're Really Fair. No, but that's a cover, right? No?

Let me look.

Santa, tell me. Oh, I don't... Oh, no, that's Kelly Clarkson. Santa, tell me, first one that comes up is Ari. Okay, that's a good one, too. I'll send a letter to you. That song is so good.

Yeah, the album is really good.

And we have Sabrina's Christmas Spectacular coming out soon. We do.

And Kelly just dropped a sequel album to her holiday album.

I saw that it comes out in three days.

I saw she posted it out today. It's called When Christmas Comes Around Again, releases in one day.

When you're that talented, why not?

Just keep going.

Yeah.

Okay. Well, in two days, we'll be able to really appreciate these things. But right now, we're focused on Halloween. But catch me on November first.

We'll see you guys then.

Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Got an assortment of last stories. I thought I would wait till the last moment to choose. But this next story, I'm really obsessed with. This was always going to be a story. Okay. Two people who in the same sentence just make a lot of sense. Okay. Kristin Cavalari admits that she rejected Chef Bobby Fly when he slid into her DM's. Okay. I saw these clips. I saw these clips. Of course. Did you see this week first that Kristin Cavalari and Bobby Fly were making Content together. They did the cucumber, mandalorian.

To promote their podcast episode.

Right. And when I saw them cooking together, I said to myself, I'm like what I'm seeing here.

Yeah.

And now she's talking about when And he slid into her DMs and asked her out for dinner, but it was actually a big misunderstanding. So she recalls the foot and mouth moment as the chef made an appearance on Tuesday's episode of Let's Be Honest. He said, I DMed you when I said to you, I'm going to be in Nashville for one night. Can I take you to dinner? And you literally said something to me like, I'm already dating somebody. She had a slightly different version of events. She said, Or I was like, I'm over dating right now. I was burnt out on dating or something. However, Bobby stuck to his story. No, you said, I've started it be seeing somebody. And I just said, I just want to go to dinner with you. He replied laughing.

Do you think it was Mark Estes?

Yes.

Imagine turning down Bobby Flay for a 25-year-old. That's insane.

No, but she was so happy. Nothing could have come in her way. And maybe she got a bad taste in her mouth from B Bobby Flay. But now that the stars have aligned for these two, let me tell you this is the only thing that could redeem Bobby Flay in my mind.

Okay, so Bobby Flay, obviously, is really tarnished in our minds. One, because be Bobby Flay is actually a really fucked up concept for a show. But also, and it was I just recently rewatched it. He plays himself in Entourage, and he starts dating Ari's wife. You're supposed to date him, and he's just this prick. I see him as that. It was actually an effective role. He acted really well. I don't see Bobby Flay and think love.

I know, but he's someone, like we spoke about this week, where in a relationship, everything that I thought could be changed. She was saying she shouldn't have assumed he meant romantically, but I'm sorry. If you want to go to a business dinner- No, of course, you should assume that. You send an email. If you want to see what's up with someone, you send a DM.

I don't think it's presumptuous at all.

They said that they went to dinner and that they had a really good time. Do you think they're dating? I don't think they're dating yet, but I think right now They might be texting each other like flirty emojis right today.

I actually really like that, even though I don't particularly love him. Was he married to Ms. Sandra Lee?

Was he?

I believe he was. No? Don't quote me on that. Hold on.

He dated a girlfriend for three years, Christina Perez, not Sandra Lee.

No, I'm sorry. They haven't. I totally made that up. Wow. It's crazy. You actually can make things up.

Yeah, but it sounds good. Sounds nice. Claudia, I think I need to listen to their podcast episode, just to see if the vibes are right.

You should watch it. It's a video, too, and you could see the chemistry.

I'm genuinely obsessed. I love when people meet on podcasts. It's a great way to meet people. It really is. If you do an interview show. Also, if you have a crush on someone, you could be like, Come on my podcast. Then from there, you can each see.

Yeah. This was an unlikely pair. When I saw that video of them, one of the podcast clips, I was like, How do these two people even know each other?

I know.

How did Bobby Flay find out who Kristen Cavalari is? Maybe his kids watch the OC.

She's big in the food space.

Kristen Cavalari?

Yeah, she has cookbooks. She has best-selling cookbooks. What? Yes. What I was going to say, the only issue between them, it's who would be cooking dinner because they both cook, and she's very clean.

Jackie, if you think Bobby Flay is going to let anybody cook for him that's not Bobby Flay, you're crazy.

I think he would let his queen, Kristen, cook for him. I actually don't think. She makes a lot of cooking content. She has many successful cookbooks. She's big in the food space, and she's clean. She's not on talks. She's not on talks. I should get her cookbooks.

You should.

The way she measures when she does her cooking videos, though, gives me so much anxiety. She'll be half a teaspoon and measure it in the hole of her palm.

Okay, literally baked by Melissa. Like, Girl, use a measuring cup. How are we supposed to follow?

How do you know what size did it to make in your palm? It's expert-level cooking.

We need to normalize measuring ingredients. It's a lost art.

Yeah, we do need to.

When it comes to video tutorials, and it's annoying.

However, I understand it's unnecessary dishes if you are very much an expert cooker, but still, calm I'm not a sugar.

Calm down.

Anyways, ship wholeheartedly, wishing them the best.

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Our fifth and final story, a little update from, I think, one of your favorite stories. So I picked this one for you because Cynthia Riva is defending her clapback of the fan-edited Wicked Poster.

Okay. Actually, I saw this clip, and I think this headline is misleading Because I didn't feel like she was defending it. I think she just... I had watched that video and I said, Oh, this is a person who's given up on this particular battle.

She conceded. She conceded. So she defended why she did it. Explained, probably is a better word. But then sat this one out because she explained- You could tell when the person asked the question, she actually felt stupid. She explained why she felt so passionately about a fan-edited Wicked poster after receiving backlash over her response. When asked about the viral moment at the CFDA Fashion Awards on Monday, she told Entertainment Tonight that her reply wasn't necessarily a clapback, but instead of representation of how much she cares about the upcoming film, she said, I think I'm really protective of the role. I'm passionate about it, and I know that the fans are passionate about it. I think for me, it was just a human moment of wanting to protect little Alphaba. However, she then admitted she should have run her remarks by a few friends before posting. She said, I probably should have called my friends, but it's fine, she said with a laugh.

Okay, I just want to say anybody who is grown enough to admit when they've been a little silly is okay in my book. I think that while I didn't agree with her outburst, how she recovered from it, and she was put on the spot. She did not know she was going to be asked that question. You could tell she was a little surprised. I thought she recovered really beautifully, and I thought it showed a sense of self-awareness that I really respected, honestly.

To be honest, when she posted what she posted, it really didn't raise that many flags for me because I wasn't following it closely. But now that we can look back on it, now that we have hindsight, rereading what her statement was is so crazy.

Jackie, it was the crazy... It was seriously the most unnecessary, crazy statement of all time.

She said, This is the wildest, most offensive thing I have ever seen. She said, None of this is funny. None of it is cute. It It degrades me. It degrades us.

Meanwhile, they were really harmless edits that she was referring to. Obviously, people can make an edit that actually is offensive, right? No, they were all funny, in good spirit, and really not a big deal at all.

Yeah. Deeply hurtful. Yeah, it got a little wild there.

She went a little nuts, and I think that she can acknowledge that is huge.

I also think that her handling of this question was pretty perfect. We're laughing it We're recognizing that we should have phoned a friend.

Kudos to the interviewer who asked the question because I see Cynthia Arriva, and I want to ask her about this.

Yeah, but what's also crazy, I feel whenever you post something like this to a story, anyone, when they're ever posting something nature such as this, you do always ask, you do screenshot and send it to the chat. Should I post this?

Of course. Whenever you're someone with a platform and you're going to post something that's serious, you always run it by your peeps.

Yeah. I just see on my computer, I have a people notification. It looks to have Jenna Dawan and Zoe Kravitz in it. So let me just see if there's anything breaking.

You want me to check my phone? You don't have to check your computer. I get people magazine.

Jenna Dawan's fiance, Stephen Cazee posts, Ha Ha on Instagram as Channing Tatum and Zoe Kravitz's break-up news.

Yeah, I see that.

But like, Ha ha, what do you mean? Okay, Steve Cazee. We're on our way.

Oh, by the way, I see. Look, Jackie, it's an Instagram story, black background, white text. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha This is worthy of a People magazine, breaking news notification.

No, that's real. The house plant in my kitchen watching me put water in the coffee maker. Okay, cool. What?

Yeah.

I'm sorry. That's crazy. And Steve Cazee, is he the one on the twilight album? Yeah, he is.

Excuse me?

He is on the Thousand Years song from twilight with Christina Perry. As a singer? It says Christina Perry, Steve Cazee, I think as a singer.

I'm shocked.

Yeah, I don't know.

How did you know that?

That's my association with his name, is the twilight album. Let's see what he does, that he's laughing so hard. He's an actor, singer, and producer. He was in Shameless, Claudia.

I've never seen him, but you know what it reminds me of? It's this TikTok sound. It's Nicki Minaj. Broke Bitches Should Never Laugh. You recognize his name from one song from an album from 20 years ago? Seriously, what are you laughing at?

Wait, he's from Shameless Walking Dead in Nashville. He won a Tony Award.

Broke Bitches Should Never Laugh. Seriously, you laughing at something that we find painful? Not cool.

Well, that's the damn truth.

Listen, we're going on an hour, 15, and we haven't even done Deer Toaster yet. Should we postpone?

I think it's giving a push till tomorrow, a PTT.

Yeah, it's giving a push till tomorrow. And honestly, doing Deer Toaster in costume?

Oh, we'll have amazing advice for you.

So I think it's to the best. The creator list just got away from us. We spent like 45 minutes on it. Does anybody even care? I do.

I don't think the audience cares as much as we do. Really? Yeah. It's very inside baseball to and very personal to us.

Yeah, it's personal to us.

And I just want you guys to just understand that that's why we took so much time doing it.

It meant a lot. It meant something.

It means something to us. If you need to fast forward through it, we're not offended.

I won't take it personal.

It's not deeply hurtful.

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