Transcript of Ariana Grande's BBL: Tuesday, October 1st, 2024

Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Tuesday. That feels just like that. It's not great.

A day of choice? Does it feel like a day of choice?

Yes, because I am choosing to skip the niceties today. I need to get down to business.

To brass tax?

I need to, shockingly, issue a correction. This is a big one. I'm not going to lie. Oh, yeah. In true turdy fashion, I was literally making stuff up yesterday. I just want to say this. When we were recapping the Sabrina Carpenter concert, and I said it was amazing, except for the shoes and the 12-year-olds, I was worried about the shoes. The 12-year-olds... So apparently, the 12-year-olds I saw on screen at Madison Square Garden were Sabrina Carpenter's friends, who are girls dressed up as boys. Let me tell you, I was shocked. And I rewatched the clip to see, was I being stupid? No, they literally still look like little boys.

And Margot said the same thing. I think that you were right to see what you saw and extrapolate what you extrapolated. And it's easy for the people at home to be like, oh, because they probably saw it with the headline, Sabrina's friends, dress up as boys. However, I am so glad to know that that is what happened because it was the one ick of the concert because I actually, I liked her little tap shoes. I'm not going to lie, I saw them and I liked it.

No, I saw Cody Rigsby also put up an Instagram story. I mean, what's with the shoes?

Cody Rigsby hatesitten heels.

But the thing is, by definition, they're actually notitten heels. I would say they're like two inches. They're literally dance shoes, which makes sense.

He doesn't like a little heel, and that's something that he stands by. That's an interesting fact about him. That he stands by. Yeah, I actually, when you were having him on the toes, I think I told you that because I know you guys could relate to that. Except these days as mature women, kitten heels are gargy pargy.

I look exclusively only buy heels of the kitten variety, even though there was a time in my life where I could have written a thesis on how ugly they were. All that to say, Sabrina was not a minor, attracted person that night. She was not a map. I'm sorry for speaking. I just want to say I told him- And you know what?

And I also, blame is on me because I should have known of my girl that she would not do that.

Yeah, you just believe the lies.

You have to trust your faves. That's what I was saying yesterday.

Well, Margot came over for dinner last night. I'm like, Margot, by the way, do you know that those weren't boys? Because we had talked about how we both thought it was weird after the concert. She was shocked. I can't be the only person in that arena who thought something weird was going on. Overjoyed to know that it's not and have to use my platform to issue a correction, Sabrina Carpenter marked safe from the pedophilic ring of Hollywood. I knew our queen would never.

Our queen would never.

I actually I am sorry.

Okay. And you'll do better.

I mean...

You'll give it a shot. Tbd. Yeah. You'll give doing better a shot, Baby Girl turt.

Now, today isn't a big day because it's a long Awaited day. We had decided a couple of weeks ago that I was really excited about the fact that my anniversary of vape quitting was coming up, and I would be able to post a picture on Instagram commemorating the anniversary, 10 months sober, I must admit. Just because you're clean, don't mean you don't miss it. And some queen on Instagram DMed me yesterday being like, Reminder to post. And I was like, Oh my God, thank you so much. And then my reminder went off this morning, so I wasn't going to forget. Posted it, so obsessed, only to realize it's been nine months. Because it's October, so it's the 10th month, so you would 10 minus one. Right, because I'm clean starting- Are you sure? Yes.

January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September.

I haven't done October yet.

You have to go through October. Okay. But the thing is, I'm not deleting the caption. How about this? Why don't you edit it? Going into the 10-month sobe.

The thing is, I don't give a fuck. How about that? Today's energy is very much just making mistakes and fixing them. Whatever. I'm coming clean with my truth. My next post is going to be Coming Clean by Hilary Duff. Whatever. I can't be perfect all the time. Seriously.

Okay. Well, thank you for owning up to your mistakes. Anything else?

No, I mean, I do have some things written down that I want to talk about, but in terms of owning up to my mistakes- And the mistakes? That's just two. And I'm just a girl.

Okay. Well, at least we got it out of the way. Brass tacks, you were right.

I did want to tell you that yesterday I went to my agent's office, and I don't really like...

Not the agent. Oh, yeah. Tirty, humblebred. You can't just say that without us freaking out.

Oh, yeah. I have a team. Get over it. She went to her agent And I literally never go there. I know that a lot of stuff arrives there for me because I don't like things coming to my apartment. I don't accept gifting unless it's Chanel. But I guess some people find her address and send stuff. I was going through the boxes and literally... Somebody sent a stack of books on how to eat while your cycle tracking.

Interesting. There's multiple books on that?

Yeah, I like, disregarded it. And last night, I was obviously entering some new phase, and I was like, I could really use that book. I should have taken a copy. I was like, Do you want it? I was giving them out to the girls in the office. Oh, I got to check it out. I know. Because apparently... We have weirdly become... Actually, yesterday, one of my friends called me. She was asking me about cycle tracking. She had a question. I don't know anything about it. I just know that it's something we should do. But we have become the voices, us and Tanya Rad, the voices of cycle tracking. I tend to post about it all the time. I don't know shit.

Yeah, because we mentioned it, and I think that's more than anyone else. We recorded the red heads yesterday. Did you talk about it? We didn't talk about cycle tracking, no. But we were talking about pregnancy in the book. Spoiler alert. It's actually, find out in the first day. It's a teen pregnancy. So she got pregnant and we were just talking about- Wait.

I literally didn't know that. I'm reading the The book- She's young, and she has a 14-year-old son. But he's grown up in the book.

The son? Yeah. When he goes to summer camp? Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. It's not a spoiler. Anyway, so we were talking in the... Later in the book, I don't want to really spoil anything, but she's talking about why they didn't use protection at the time. And she was like, Well, I just had my period two days ago, so we're fine. And it's like, Seriously, what teenager knows that? I did not know. I did not know that you could only get pregnant max three days out of the month until I started trying to get pregnant.

Well, thanks to Tanya Rad.

I know that now. Well, thanks to Tanya Rad, we know so much more than we ever had.

Yeah, today's giving Ludial.

That's not good.

Actually, I don't even know. That's not good. That's the thing. I don't know. I just know that when you have your period, you're in the menstrual phase.

I'm looking at you. I'm looking at you. It's giving Ludial. Is Ludial bad?

Yeah. Okay.

Ludial is when you're mad at the male in your life for not fulfilling his caveman duties and getting you pregnant.

What point of your period is that?

After ovulation. Right before you're going to get your next period.

I'm doing a week or two, two weeks.

Ludio.

Okay, Ludio. Living LuTille. I think it's also Lutile.

Not here. It's Ludio on the Maja Chijan.

It's Ludio on the Maja Chijan And Sabrina Carpenter is attracted to 12-year-old boys.

Yeah. Okay, wait. She hangs out with Taylor Swift and not Olivia Rodriguez. Wait.

Is it a story about Rascal Flats, or should we talk about it now?

Let's talk about it now. It's not a story, though it could have been, however, When something is such global news like that, like world affairs, it usually just goes at the top and not in the story.

It supersedes the fast five. It's too big of a story. It's like Megzit.

Yeah, right. Megsit, it's a classic story. Rascal Flats announced what they were going to announce, and it is the Life is a Highway Tour, 25th anniversary. They are going on a little tour. I would say it's about 15 to 20 dates that they're doing.

And the energy of the tour is seemingly like, Major city, we don't know her.

Yeah. We're going where we're going, and you should probably call a car service or get a train ticket.

Like, pack your bags because we're coming to a town not near you. The thing is, I feel like- They're coming to Jacksonville, Florida.

Orlando. Orlando, which was good. But then they're also going to somewhere on the West Coast of Florida that's actually might be closer, Estero. Well, the nearest- Looks like we're going to Estero.

The nearest city for me and Margot, we were talking about it this morning, is the very popular town of Uncasville, Connecticut. It's about two hours away. We are going. I want to say this. I know that when people launch tours, they're heavily researched with data and analytics. These are the cities that Rascal Flatts is most popular in. They're not doing this for fun. They're here to obviously make money and do the tour. So I get it. I feel like when people plan tours, it's always the major cities. Then people who live in Uncasville get screwed. So I'm happy for the people of the Uncasvilles of America. But for me, New York?

No, it's really crazy. Also, there's no West Coast dates, which makes me feel like maybe they'll add more shows seeing how this goes, or maybe they just want to stay local. They are in a position to write their own ticket. And just like we were talking about touring yesterday, maybe touring looks like staying close to home for these guys.

And let's talk about the betrayal from Lauren Lane and Lauren Elaina. Two people in our lives who... Lauren Elaina texted me this morning, the second the announcement. Like, Girl, you couldn't have told me before, so I could have prepared, bought my ticket to Uncasville.

No, Lauren Lane listens to this show. Every day. He heard us anticipating.

And she I knew she would be on the tour.

All she had to say was Uncasville. But I'm very, very excited, and I'm going to do everything in my power to get there. I know Sabrina is also going to Orlando. I'm not moving heaven and earth to see Sabrina at Orlando. I love her, but it's just different with Rascal Flatts. I would either make a weekend out of, We'll go to Disney. I don't give a fuck. I'll go to Disney. That's a %. Or go for the night. I'm going to figure it out because Rascal Flatts means everything to me. They are not making it easy. And I don't want to compare Rascal Flatts and Sabrina because not that she does it. Because they couldn't be more different. But this is different. Also, this is one of the last tours they'll ever do. Sabrina, she has many wondrous years to come, Baruch Hashem, and I will see her, Baruch Hashem, one day.

The crazy thing about the Rascal Flatts Farewell Tour is it's broken the curse of things we beg for that are obviously... We always talk about Society Season 2. It's never coming. Rascal Flatts Reunion Tour.

This is the same thing as if Society Season 2. It's the exact same thing.

It's the list of things, almost inside jokes that we think Wish would come back that are obviously not coming back. They broke the curse.

Yeah. It would be like Little Mix getting back together.

Harry Style's in One Direction getting back together.

Yeah. That one is actually probably I've been crazier than Society Season 2.

I don't know. They're all so close.

No Zane, though.

My hot take is that One Direction didn't change when Zane left.

I agree with that. I agree. But when we're saying we're holding out for a reunion, that still would count even if there's no Zane.

I actually think Zane would be more likely to get on board now that he's grown so much than Harry styles. And also Zane is now like, oh for 2 when it comes to trying to release music, and I think he loves performing. I actually think he would be down. And now he has a family to provide for. He can't just be saying no to big opportunities.

You want to know why? Because you and me got a whole lot of history. Wow. That should actually be the theme song for this show. We don't have opening intro music for this show.

A lot of others- You and me got a whole lot of history. Oh, no.

We could be the greatest thing that the charts have ever We wish.

We wish. Dream on. I'm literally delusional energy in the intro. I like that. That's a good way to start your day.

It says, We could be, not that we are. So it's very aspirational.

No, we could. That's so factual. We We could be.

We could be. Any day could be the greatest episode to top the charts.

That is so funny.

Speaking of topping the charts, Claudia and I recorded a hysterical episode for our Patreon yesterday, where we went back into the archives and we reacted to and discussed old host titles. So we went back to like 2020.

We tried to guess what the hell we were talking about.

Yeah. And then we looked at the stories, but we reacted to titles like, oh, that was a really shitty title. Why would anybody who was not already going to listen to the episode, listen to this episode? There were a couple of good ones, some iconic ones.

We also then stumbled into the titles we were making in the dead of quarantine with Zoom episodes. We did skip because it was actually depressing. Bringing me back to that time.

Day 64 in the queue.

That was actually the name of one of our episodes. Who the fuck would listen to that?

Someone else who was counting every day.

Someone else, seriously on the verge.

However, it was a really fun episode. We didn't even get to six months worth of titles because there was just so much funny father. We literally had guests names in the titles of people who we did not know who they are anymore. We did not know them. No.

I also was like, reminded/ literally learned for the first time that we interviewed Francesca Farago. I literally had no idea.

Yeah. Things we did. There was also Were they a month where we were obsessed with the Real Housewives of Dallas?

We had Deandra Simmons, Cameron Westcott, and then some woman. What was her name? Jen Davis. Jen Davis, who was almost a housewife, and then she ended up getting a divorce, and they couldn't be on the... Whatever. We were obsessed. It was interesting to see our interests come and So, you know?

Yeah, it really was. It was so funny and everyone really loved it. So we're going to keep going because we have still more years worth of titles to do. Head over to patreon. Com/thetoast. And I feel like I said this last month and it really resonated with people. But if you've never joined Patreon for anything, you probably think, oh, it's this convoluted platform that I don't know. But it's actually just a website, and it's really easy to just make a login, and then you will have access to over 300 bonus content episodes of The Toast. There is so much content there, and every episode we've ever done is waiting for you if you join today.

I agree.

Let me just say that.

You're not going to hear any words from me over here.

No protestation?

Thou doth to test, you know?

Thou doth to test.

Thou doth.

To test. Baby girl turt.

Jackie has been calling me Baby girl turt, and I want to say obsessed.

Yeah, I put it in my stories yesterday.

I was cracking up.

It felt like the natural next step. Like me and Baby Girl turt, recorded on the ones and twos. I think it's pretty pargy.

I feel like it's been a while since I've said this to you, and I need to say it every couple of months. Just once again, reminding you how thankful and grateful I am for the nickname you've given me that is turdy, and you can evolve it. Now, you can do whatever you want with it because I feel it's really cemented who I am. The way people refer to me in person, online. Turdy is my name. I'm obsessed. Actually, the funniest thing happened to me at the Sabrina Carpenter concert, and I just saw this TikTok of the girl who made it. I was walking out with Remi, and we were looking at our phones, trying to figure out where the hell we were to I had an Uber. I thought I heard someone scream turdy, and I look around and I didn't see anyone. So I'm like, Oh, once again, hearing Fantom turdies. Then I heard it again, and I was like, No, I'm just hearing things. Then the security guard tapped me. He's like, Are you turdy? I was like, Yeah. He pointed to this girl on the escalator. She was so cute. She was like, It's me.

It was just a toaster. Then she made a TikTok about how embarrassed she was that she was screaming turdy in MSG. I was reading the comments of people like, No, if I saw turdy. Everyone was calling me turdy. That for me was like, Oh, I... Reminder, must thank Jack Tucky. Not one person in that thread called me Claudia. Not one.

That's pretty cool.

Yeah, it's a big deal.

Yeah. So now I can branch off. And for a while, you skymed me in my creative process. I did. I was moving towards turtle, and you were pulling me back.

I was so afraid people would start calling me turtle. They get confused with multiple nicknames. But I feel like turty is so cemented in her story that we're good to move on.

Everything else is just confetti around it. So Baby Girl turt is my girl today.

Did you say Big Girl turt? Because that's not okay with me.

I said Baby Girl.

I think you said Big.

I certainly did not. It was like, That is my life. That is my life. I want to stay here.

I believe you. I believe women. Maybe I'm hearing just Fantoms Bigs again.

Classic. It's, what is it? Freudian?

Sure.

What is it? Projection?

My middle name. Turdy Projection, Sopra Street.

Exactly.

Tuesday is such a great day. It's before a dear toaster, so we could just relax. We don't have anywhere to be, anyone to answer to. We just got stories and a positive attitude.

Always. We actually have really great stories today. Always. Always. Oh, my God. Do you see the hearts on FaceTime?

Oh my God, yes. Did you see that? I'm obsessed with the FaceTime update where you can send emojis with your hands. Heart.

Am I sending you emojis?

I'm getting nothing. Maybe stop moving. Stop being so desperate. Just move and angle it more up towards me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You got it?

No.

Maybe I don't have that feature yet.

I love that thing.

Yeah. Thumbs up.

Then And of course, balloons with the P sign.

Because you're turning two.

Yeah. I love that.

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Thank you, turtle.

You're welcome, squirtle.

Our first story, Ariana Grande is making some more news. I guess it's going to be an already heavy month or two with the Wicked Promo because she and Cynthia Arevo set down for a lie detector test with Vanity Fair, and she is setting the record straight about some of the cosmetic procedures she's tried and which she's open to. She took a lie detector test while Cynthia Arevo asked her some questions. Cynthia asks, Do you ever get any work done to feel more popular? Grande expressed her excitement for being able to address plastic surgery, speculation, telling Cynthia, Thank goodness, before denying several procedures. She was asked if she had a facelift. She said, No, not yet. I'm open.

I don't think she's had a facelift.

She was telling the truth. She was asked if she had a nose job. She said, No. She was telling the truth. She was asked if she had that fox eye lift. She said no, and she had never heard of that until people accused her of having had it. And she said, I discovered it through people who thought I did. I said, Thank you.

What did she have?

She said, you know, she had Botox filler, but she hasn't done it in years because she was doing it too much. The classic, right? She was asked if she had a chin implant. She said no. Well, she does look- I think she was asked if she had a boob job, and she said no.

She looks super different than the girly we knew on Nickelodeon and then the early pop star days. I do think a lot of that has to do with the fact that she used to spray tan herself into oblivion, wear super heavy makeup, and she's lost a ton of weight. All of those things, I think her difference in looks can be explained She buy a lot of non-plastic procedural things. She is really young, so I don't know why she would have a crazy list of surgeries. People are thinking she has a facelift. That's absurd. What is she, 30?

Yeah, she's, I think, my age.

But I think a lot of people, not even celebrities, get a nose job or do something to their chin. It's not that big of a deal, but it sounds like she's saying she's had nothing done.

Yeah, pretty much. I agree that she's not someone to me that I feel has had so much work done. I think she's esthetically changed a lot about her appearance. Even from her spray tan days. Now she's in her pale girl era.

She's in her translucine era, and it's crazy to see what her natural skin tone looks like compared to when she used to spray tan herself to an offensive level.

Right. She's changed her hair color. She's changed her eyebrows. She's very, very petite, and she's always been really small, but I think right now she's smaller than ever. And those things- Make you look different. She changes how she did her makeup. I think all of this can be explained away. She doesn't have Botox right now, she said, and her face is moving.

Well, when you're an actress, You actually can't be Botox to the gods because part of doing your job successfully is being expressive. You need to express. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, I saw another- This is not someone I'm dying to get in the hot seat.

In regards to plastic surgery.

I have other questions for her. Ask about a BBL. Let me tell you something. I don't need a lie detector. To know that Ariana Grande doesn't need a BBL.

It's so true. I think that another thing that I had seen coming out, I don't know if it was of the interview or of this video, but she was asked about her relationship with her fans, and she was super honest. She was like, I love my fans, but I don't always like them. Because I guess, especially with the Spongebob thing, she's had some inner turmoil within her community. I think that pop stars are just trained to be like, I'm so grateful for my fans. I wouldn't be here without you. I love my fans. But sometimes your fans can be crazy and toxic, and the stand-ums can become really toxic. I thought that was a very honest and brave thing to say.

Yeah.

Because toxic fan culture is very real.

Yes. It is. And I think everybody who's meant to love her so much, jumping to the worst conclusions about her. It's like, well, do you love me? My friends wouldn't think the worst of me. You know? Yeah. So, yeah, Ari.

It's going to be a month of Ari.

She's an interesting cat.

She is.

She's not the least interesting. I don't mind a month of Ari because I do feel like she says stuff. This was a nothing burger because nobody was so concerned with what she said.

Honestly, it's a vealed attempt to be It's authentic, but it's not a real question. Nobody thinks that she has had a million procedures.

Then, of course, she's in full support of everyone doing these things. If they want to do these things, okay, thank you. Not a hot take.

But no, people are always like, I'm really in support of it, but I've had nothing done.

I would never. I like to be natural. It was too much.

I got an allergic reaction to Botox.

I didn't feel like myself, but you guys go into it.

I support everyone, just not me.

Yeah, it's just not for me.

So yes, I agree. I feel like we also don't know a lot about her I think she's this chameleon, and I think she's changed a lot recently. Just due to personal growth, divorce can change you. And so a month of Ari headlines, I'm up down.

Yeah, and she's funny and sassy. Yeah. Cool. Bring it on.

She's also lived a million lives. Right now, we're obsessing over this saga with Spongebob because there's so much mystery there. But I feel like there's a lot of things, like the Nickelodian time. What the hell happened with Scooter Braun? There are a lot of big, almost Roman Empire moments in Ariana Grande's career.

Mac Miller, Pete Davidson.

She invented Pete Davidson.

Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot.

Yeah.

We'll keep you posted on the rest of the promo. But yeah, no, Ariana Grande hasn't had a facelift, in case you were wondering.

Wait, Also, did you make anything about Aaron Foster being on Watched Heaven's Live as Story?

No.

Okay, because she was actually asked amazing questions, and two really stood out that I wanted to bring up to you. She was asked, one, what she thought about her dad being on Beverly Hills, and she's like, I did not like it. I think we all can surmise why, but she basically said, That show was messy and it's fun to watch, but when your personal family is involved, it doesn't hit as good. I just prefer to be... She's like a lurker as opposed to an active participant. She was also asked about her relationship with a lot of her... She's famous half-step siblings, the Generous, the Hadids. I always wonder because the fosters are really pro-Israel, the Hadids are really pro-Palestine. Has that impacted their family? She said, I was DMing with Gigi last night. She's watching Nobody Wants This. I'm like, Okay, so interesting. I I would have liked a little bit more. Then she was asked to finally confirm, I had never heard this rumor, to finally confirm or deny whether five years ago, she dated Harry styles.

Okay.

Did you ever hear that rumor?

No, but is there a picture or something?

I don't know, but she like, smiled knowingly, and she said she fled the fifth. And then I was reading the comments that people are like, well, she's pleading the fifth because he was 19 and she was 32. So it's not... It's not cute. It's not super kosher, but love that for her.

Harry styles is having fun with rumored new girlfriend, Erin Foster. I can see it.

I can see it, too. I don't know how that's a rumor I didn't know, because that's definitely something that would have come across my desk.

Yeah, that's pertinent information. That is funny.

It was a good episode.

Yeah.

Then Christian Seriano was the other guest.

He went pumpkin picking with her. Claudia, they were dating. I'm obsessed. Claudia, there's a whole side show on Josh Jared.

On my way.

Yeah, you know Josh Jared. They don't skimp on the pics. They just make you suffer through a million ads. Okay, here we go.

I'm just going to go to Google Images.

No, Claudia. You don't go pumpkin picking with a rand.

Oh my God. Okay, by the way, I just want to say this photo of them is a time capsule of whenever it came out. The ripped jeans, the ankle boots, and the denim shirt open with a T-shirt underneath on Aaron. It is a time capsule of 2010's fashion.

And she's so his type. Yeah.

I'm obsessed.

Oh, this pumpkin patch had kosher hot dogs. The Foster Sisters are seriously the center of Hollywood. They are.

They're connected to everyone, either like, familially or just friendship.

Yummy. Okay. Well, thanks for that. Thanks for that detour. Speaking of May-December relationships, Kristin Cavalari is opening up about her breakup from Mark Estes. She addressed it all on her most recent podcast. Let's be honest. This is what she said, quote, Mark and I broke up. It's hard because I broke up with Mark because I just know long term, it's not right, and it's not because of love, loss, or something bad that happened. She explained that no one cheated or was mean and noted that those breakups are almost easier when the guy does something that makes you hate him. Mark, on the other hand, had always been nothing but so sweet and so supportive, quote, He's been the best boyfriend I've ever had. I just know long term he needs to experience life. He's young. I started to feel the age a little bit with life experience. I I look back when I was 24 and how much life has happened between then. Those are crucial years. Those are formative years. They're when you find yourself, and he needs to be able to do that. She said that she's always been aware of their age gap and hasn't been ignoring the fact that he was younger.

However, she doubled down on their partnership being the best relationship of her life and calls it very healthy and very mature despite being in different periods of their life. She said, he will make someone so happy one day, and he will have a beautiful family of his own. I know that one day he will look back and understand it. I actually think one day he will look back and thank me.

100%, by the way. Not me getting sad. It's giving the idea of you, like they had to let each other go.

Is that how it ends?

Well, in the book, no. She's like, Fuck it. I love you. Like, everyone can eat my ass. In the movie, they break up, and she's like, You need to go live, and like, Come find me when you're ready. Then he goes on. They cut to five years later. She's at home watching TV, still depressed over her teenage lover. She's watching him on the equivalent of The Tonight Show. He basically looks in the camera and gives her a subliminal message. I'm ready.

Got it. So he only needed five years of living.

Okay, maybe it was like, I don't remember what the screen said when it came to- No, but then if it was any more than that, and she's like, A grandma.

A grandma. Hoco-taco. No, because I do wonder how this plays out. If she doesn't end it now, when things are good and she's letting him go and live his life, say they had stayed together because they are both really happy. What does 10 years from now look like? What is she trying to avoid that he wakes up one day and is like, No, the thing is, when you date someone so much older than yourself, whatever the gender roles are, you miss out on a lot of natural life things because the person who you love most in this world has already done it, right?

Right.

We're not doing it again.

Right. So it changes the trajectory of your life. And I think she was actually really generous and self-aware of her. It's like, yeah, I've had my fun, and I actually really do love you, but it's not right for me to almost steal your youth and things that you should experience with people your own age. You deserve that. When you think about Aaron Taylor Johnson, everyone's waiting for him and his 100-year-old wife to break up. They're not breaking up. He did not experience. He became a stepfather. You don't experience- I guess it could have ended like that.

I feel like Aaron Taylor Johnson is happy.

I don't know, actually. I don't know.

Yeah, but I also think you need to make mistakes, learn lessons, have relationships, and he can't do that if he's already found the one at 24. I think people who are both 24 sometimes break up for that It's interesting because it's like, we both need to go live.

But that's a bad excuse because you both can go live together.

Oh, I agree with that, but I do think that's sometimes what people say. Yeah.

Well, it reminds me now thinking of... Because I don't remember a lot about their relationship with Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher. They were together for a while, but they didn't have kids, did they?

No.

Then he was able to eventually go on and have a typical... Mila Kunis is his own age. They had a very traditional marriage, kids. So I think the right thing to do when you're in a relationship, as long as, by the way, the relationship isn't frontal lobe. As long as it's fine, it's just a big age gap, the right thing to do. It has an expiration date. You have to let the person go.

This is very mature of her, and I will miss them.

I know. I feel sad for her. I saw clips of her talking. She looks really upset.

It's a really hard choice to make. When do you call it? Why not one more month of fun? Why not another year?

Okay, who's Kristin Cavalieri dating next? It's never going to be who you I don't think.

No, it's not. I don't think she wants to be with an athlete again, so I could take them off the list. Like, Bill Hater, even though isn't he married now or something?

Yeah. Who is he with?

Someone.

Yeah. Not Anna Kendrick, but someone of that elk. Ali Wong. Ali Wong. Yeah, he's busy. Not even similar.

Kristin Cavalieri. I I don't know if I have someone for her.

We'll put her on the list.

The list is lacking. She is on the list now. Great.

She's a good addition.

I need to start a new list.

No. Our list of singles is out of date, free. It's It's terrible. It's a circus. I don't know what the hell these people are.

If these people were at a mixer together, all 30 of them, not one match would come from it.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone on our list has passed away. That's how out of date it is.

I have Kim Kardashian She's on the list twice.

It's a piece of shit. It's not our finest work. It's not reflective of our other lists.

No, it's not.

It's one of our worst lists.

It's just something that we do when two people break up and we run out of things to say.

Yeah. Oh, my God. It's giving rip. When somebody dies, what is there to say?

It's giving rip. Rip, added to the list.

It's so true. At the end of a story where someone broke up, the way we get out of the story and move on and segue is like, who should we set them up with next?

I think instead of doing that, we just should say, add them to the list, and that way we have a robust list of single people, but we're not actively trying to set people up. And that way we can also get out of the story. Pergy. Are you ready for our next story?

Three?

Three. Yeah. It's some sister news because Tia Mowri is revealing the, quote, normal reason why she's not as close with her sister, Tamara.

Okay.

Okay. I also need to keep in mind who's the one who is having the show.

Okay. Give It's just a brief reminder. I cannot keep them apart.

I think Tia is the one having a show, and then Tamara is the one that was on the reel who's still close with the brother. Who's a Republican. Who was accused of being a Republican.

That's Tamara.

Yeah, who's an accused Republican. Tia, on the outskirts, I believe, is saying that, It's normal that she and her twin sister, Tamara, aren't as close as they once were. You start as siblings in a household in a family, and as we grow up and start our own families, it is very normal for all of us to take on new roles and responsibilities when it comes to our life, she told people. She acknowledged that Tamara has a family of her own, so it's, quote, normal and very natural for them to focus on their respective lives and families. Quote, There's so much love there. There's this beautiful bonding connection that we have that will never leave. My sister and I have always been women of inspiration, and we will continue to. Literally us. Why would that change now? I don't know because you have a show and you didn't even tell her.

I want to say this. I actually have to I can imagine that being a twin comes with a real set of complications. The older you get, the more independent you get, then you become a mother. I can imagine and actually really relate to that struggle and wanting to be your own person, especially you get famous as a twin. If it weren't for all the conspiracy theories, I would believe this statement on its surface. But then, like Tamara saying, I didn't even know you had a show. There's something going on there, and Tia is trying to convince us that there's not.

This statement makes no sense. One's twin, one even sister, but let alone twin. You have to think about the biology of twins. I don't I don't know if you see these videos, but they're twins outside of the womb, how when they're with their twin, they have one single heartbeat. It's twins are connected in a way. It's beautiful. Twins are connected in a way. Twins are connected in a way that we can't even understand. More so than Jackson Claude is what I'm saying, if you could believe that.

I actually can't.

And that one of them... And so we're so close. And then one of them has a kid, and it's like, well, she carries on with her life and her family.

Wait, only one of them has children?

I think so. That's the vibe I'm getting. But let me triple check. I don't want to have to issue a correction tomorrow.

Yeah, Tamara has two kids. And Tia has- Two kids. Two kids. Okay, they're both others.

Okay, so if anything, if you both are having kids, that should even make you even closer. Not like, oh, we're now all siloed working on her own families.

Yeah, I have to say something that's totally random and out of the blue, and it's highly controversial. Okay. The best thing to ever happen to me is Google's AI.

I agree.

It is the best use of AI I have seen. I don't know how I lived before it. Because you know what? Remember, I feel like we were actually recently having this conversation when you would Google a question. Yahoo Answers used to be this forum, and it was literally the only way to find a real answer. Then they got rid of it, and my life was negatively impacted. Ai Overview, what is it? What's her name?

Gemini.

Gemini. Thank you. Best thing to ever happen to me.

Yeah, I agree. I have been asking Google some questions, and sometimes I start to type in the question, and they give me the AI overview in the little thing. So I'm like, Yeah, click. And then I go and it's gone.

No, don't cloud on Gemini. Gemini has no issues, no bugs. You have issues.

No, it's like, if you don't click it in that moment and you keep typing out your question, it might not come. I don't know. It's not Gemini's fault. I'm just saying sometimes I see- Nobody's having that issue with you. I see the promise of Gemini. I see them about to understand what I'm saying. Then maybe I just keep typing and that's my problem. Sometimes it's out of my grasp. But when she's there, she's fantastic.

If Gemini is listening, and I know she is, I just want to say, whenever we talk about the dangers of AI and AI taking over the world- We're not talking about you. I am not talking about you. You have helped me. You know who could learn a thing or two from you? Meta's AI. That thing is so fucking annoying.

Every time I go to DM someone and all of a sudden I'm in a Metta search for a girl with no job.

I'm in a chat with Metta, asking them questions that I didn't even ask. Metta AI sucks balls. I'm like, What? Gemini AI is the best thing. I think everyone in the AI space could learn a thing or two. Thank you. That was the whole point of AI, to make our lives easier, help us do dumb little tasks.

Yeah. No. While also eventually eradicating civilization, sure, but make our final days a little bit breather. Peaceful. Yeah. And OpenAI sucks ass. What's that? That's ChatGPT. Okay. Whenever I need AI, go to ChatGPT. I'm like, Can you show me what my bathroom looks like with this wallpaper on? No, No, they can't. I can't do that. Try a different one, the photo one.

And then I've done photo AI generating.

It never works. I make a login. Sometimes I even pay. It never works. I just wanted to see the fucking wallpaper on my bathroom wall. I know some websites, you could do it for your room with their wallpaper. But the website where I found my wallpaper, it's like, We just sell fucking wallpaper. Figure it out. We're not AI generated. I'm in Canva making my own... I got to a dark place.

That sounds dark.

Where's AI there for me?

Right. No, they could learn a thing or two from Gemini. I love the name Gemini. Cute.

Precious Gemini.

Meta AI is the worst name.

I mean, they're not known for their naming.

No. Have you seen Mark Zuckerberg recently, dressing like a frat boy? He's actually embarrassing.

Yeah, he's going through something.

Yeah, with his big T's and his chains.

Seriously, grow up. He's He's a brand new man.

It's not good. The thing is, he is forgetting, you're a professional nerd. You're known for being the smartest. Lean in.

But nerds can glow up. Like, look at Jeff Bezos.

He's doing it right. I don't know. I I don't know who is... It's clear Mark Zuckerberg... This is the difference. Jeff Bezos grew up because the woman in his life, he doesn't even know he went through a glow up. She did it all for him in a perfect way. Mark Zuckerberg obviously hired celebrity stylists and trainers. It's so inauthentic.

Yeah. You can't understand the catalyst for his change, which with Jeff, it's very clear.

Right. He's in this new hot relationship. It makes sense. What changed in Mark's life?

There's a lot about Mark Zuckerberg. That's changed. It's also ideologically, and it's like, What change for you, bro? Why are you being this way?

No, he's going... It doesn't feel authentic.

No, it's like a costume.

Yeah. He's just whatever the flavor of the month is. Mark, he's the Katie Perry of the tech space.

Yeah, it's true.

If Do you understand that joke? You are so toast-coated.

Anyways, Tia and Tamara, we don't know why they're feuding. They're saying that it's normal, but I don't think that it's normal. I think twins are bound for life. It's really sad. It is. But the way that they say, It's normal. It's nothing. I still love her, makes me think that there's a path back to each other.

But it seems like they're both saying different things. Tamara was the one on the red carpet being like, I'm just now hearing about the show. She was the one who seemed hurt and being like, Yeah, but no, there's something going on. And then Tia is like, No, we're good. You're growing up mothers. They're telling different stories. As a sister, you hate to see it.

Maybe I'll have to wait for season two of her show. Maybe she'll get to a place in her show, like all reality shows you where they go and reach out to old relatives.

Yeah. That's how you know your show is about to get canceled.

Classic. This would be the first time that I care.

Totally.

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Tiktok star, Charly Demilia will make her Broadway debut in and Juliet. Tiktok star Charlie D'Amelio will make her Broadway debut in And Juliet. So Tiktok star Charlie D'Amelio will make her Broadway debut in The Jukebox Musical And Juliet, a revisionist take on Shakespeare's classic tale of Star-Cross Lovers.

I've seen it.

D'amelio will join the ensemble in the part of Charmian. Charmian. Sorry.

Charmian.

Charmian? No. Which one is it?

I don't know. I don't remember. Charmian?

I thought it was about to say chairman, and then I saw the A and the I were switched. Spell it.

C-h-a-r-m-i-a-n.

Charmian. Charmian. Now, I saw this. Which has been described by producers as a dance-heavy role. Maybe you remember Charmian because you saw it.

No, that's why I want to know. I need to Google because I saw this and I was like, There's no way she's playing the girl. The cool thing about Ann Juliet, and the reason why I saw it, is that, yeah, it's like, what would happen? It's like a modern take on Romeo and Juliet. What would happen if Juliet lived and she went on to slay the house down? But it's produced by Max Martin, so the music is set to like, Roar by Katie Perry. All of Max Martin's greatest hit. A lot of Britney Spears. It's very modern. But the lead Juliet sings a lot. I know Charlie D'Amelio has made a singing video once or twice, but that's just not a Broadway star make. Right.

They said it's a dance-heavy role.

Charmian and Juliet.

I don't remember. Was Ann Was Juliet also a movie?

No.

Or was that Nomeo and Juliet, where they were gnomes?

Yes, they were gnomes. Classic mix-up.

Classic. I prefer a bit of Nomeo and Juliet.

I would love to know who is Charmaine. Charmaine. Oh, no, that's the mom. Who is Charmaine in the role? I just need to know. It's bothering me.

No worries. Take your time. I'm doing a little fact finding of my own.

I just want to remember who she- Oh, yeah.

Jessie J has a song for Manjuliet, called One More Try. I love that song.

Classic.

Classic Jessie J. You know if Jessie J is involved, that things are on another level.

No, it's just annoying. Every time I'm trying to search, but now everything's about Charlie D'Amelio.

I know that- Charmy D'Amelio is Charmaine. I need to ask- Also, it's Charmian. That's very Charlie D'Amelio.

Charlie D'Amelio.

Charlie D'Amelio.

I'm trying to...

Oh my God, this is so annoying. Do you think maybe we could discuss it without- Knowing who Charmaine is? Yeah, no, keep... Without this knowledge? Yeah. She will be in the performance from October 29th to January 19th.

How long?

Three months.

Okay. This will be a lot of influencers. People are always mad when content creators get roles that other people wait their whole lives for. And Broadway is one of those things, you really can't fake it. You either are going to crush it or they're going to eat you alive. Right. And it's brave. There are a couple of examples of content people going on Broadway and being really well received. I think Coleen Bollinger doing Waitress in Musical was really well received. I I'm sure Nini Leaks, Queen being in Cinderella. I actually saw it with Nini Leaks. She was amazing.

I think that was- Erica Jean, Esraxy Hart, Ariana. Ariana. Yeah, it's true. You're either going to do well or you're not going to do well. There's no faking it on Broadway. I think Charlie will be fantastic in this role. I think Charlie can do whatever she sets her mind to.

Her role is technically an ensemble role.

She's just in the choir?

But I think maybe it's a big ensemble role.

And a lot of dancing.

Say it again. You don't like... You're not like a main character.

I like that for her. Maybe she's starting a career on Broadway, and she's not coming in as Juliet. What could people say to her?

A dance-heavy role in the Jukebox Music's Ensemble. So, yeah, it's not a star leading role. I'm shocked she would do this. Maybe she really wants to be on Broadway, so she believes in taking smaller roles to get to the top.

And she loves to dance. Don't forget that about Charlie. At the end of the day, it's all about the love of dance.

I don't dance, I know you can, not a chance.

But she does dance.

When are they going to make High School Musical and Musical on Broadway? Like, dead ass. The work's already done for you.

High School Musical, the Musical on Broadway?

Right.

I don't know. When they acquire some taste.

Right. I guess we'll be waiting quite a while.

Yeah. Anyways, good luck to Charlie. I'm reading for you.

Good luck, Chuck.

Good luck, Charlie. I just like saying Charlie.

Yeah, of course. Isn't it crazy that this Broadway-My son's name is This Broadway star/content creator has the same name as your son?

It is crazy.

Do you think she's a good role model for Charlie's of the Universe?

I do think so. I think she's a good role model, period.

I agree.

I think she's trying her best.

Aren't we all?

Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? About not a good role model.

Bidding is such sweet sorrow.

Who are you, Shakespeare? You should be on Broadway and Juliet.

Thousand %. That's what I've been saying.

Not a good role model.

You have Should I call the police?

No, no need for all that fuss.

Don't worry about me. Don't make a fuss over me.

Chris Brown. Yes. Has a domestic violence documentary coming out on Network ID by the Quiet On Set Network as a new accuser comes forward. Chris Brown's legal troubles and history of abuse are now the subject of a new documentary film from Investigation Discovery, the network behind Quiet On Set, Nickelodeon Child Abuse Exposé. On October 27th, Chris Brown, A History of Violence, will launch ID's third annual No Excuse for Abuse campaign. The Doc will explore the legal issues faced by Brown, the pop star behind songs like With You Forever and Under the Influence, which include domestic violence and assault charges and sexual assault allegations. His Troubles Date Back to 2009, when he beat his then-girlfriend Rihanna, Causing severe facial injuries that required hospitalization.

To me, the Rihanna Chris Brown saga of 2009 is one of the craziest things we've ever experienced. I think this stuff goes down in Hollywood a lot, but we don't hear about it. The way she dealt with it all so publicly, that must have been so hard. Then we saw her even get back together with him, which I think happens, too. It's a a necessary step in leaving. It, to me, is one of the craziest things I've ever seen in my life. Chris Brown is so unique in the sense where we had this reckoning a couple of years ago where we were not going to take it from the men in Hollywood anymore, whether they were abusers, pedophiles. It was time out. Time's up, excuse me. Chris Brown just stuck under the radar. He sells out huge arenas. Now, I do think he definitely lost a lot of mainstream opportunities because of what we know about him, but it hasn't really stopped him completely. I think a documentary these days is the only way to get your information out there.

Yeah. The thing about Chris Brown, it's like the information is out there, but it's the fans that are still supporting him, people buying tickets to his shows. And you're right, he doesn't perform in the billboard music awards. He doesn't get those big moments that non-troublesome stars do get. But it's like his fans don't care. So what can you do then? People have to make their own choices, and they just support him. They don't care. It's true.

The industry did what they were supposed to do. We're not platforming this freak, this abuser. But you can't stop the millions of people that like and support him. It's all women, crazy enough. His fans are women. The reason I feel is so many of these men who are disgusting are also disgusting-looking. Kevin Spacey, Harvey... Chris Brown is young and good-looking. It's a powerful drug.

I guess also, though, it's about being in the music industry versus acting. Because if you're an actor, no one will give you a role. You don't have a job. If you are a musician and people won't give you this or that, if you have fans, you have a career. If you're acting- He also has a record label.

That's the thing. He still has a label.

Yeah. But even if he didn't have a label, and who knows why the label, maybe P. Diddy had a record label. Even if he didn't have a record label, if he has fans, he has a career.

A business, yeah.

He could have been an independent artist. So I do think that's why it might be... Even Michael Jackson, very hard to cancel because people love his music. But If you're an actor, your work is a little more forgettable.

You're easy to move on from. But you're right. I think Michael Jackson was hard to cancel, more so because his music was so ingrained in culture. You actually could not ignore the enormity of Michael Jackson. Whereas I don't think that's the case for Chris Brown. I actually think girls, his fans are all women, and they just like him and think he's hot, and he's a really good voice.

Yeah.

He does sexy dances on tour, and he brings people up and makes out with them.

Yeah. If you want to support Chris Brown, You live with that. You live with that. That's on you, right?

To me, not to bring everyone into this, but they tried to bring Chris Brown back one time, Freaky Friday. That song had every person on it. Kendall Jenner was in the music video. The music industry was like, All right, let's bring him back. I don't think it was well received. That, to me, is one of the strangest things. I think Justin Bieber's on that song. They literally brought in all the big guns. Chris Brown. What's that song called Freaky Friday?

I woke up in Chris Brown's Body.

They put his name in the song. They wanted him to come back.

That's so weird.

Yeah, Lil Dicky, Chris Brown, and then the music video had Kendall.

Unfortunately, I don't think this documentary is going to change anything because I can't imagine it's that much more information. However, it might make people stop and think, whereas before, I don't know, it might just position things in a different light where it's like, Oh, okay, maybe I don't want to support this person.

Listen, there are people in my life, well, not people. Yeah, people I know who are big Chris Brown fans, and they're ashamed of it, too. They know it's wrong. It's not like they think he's innocent.

Yeah. Isn't that crazy? Right. But maybe if they saw this documentary, maybe what we're about to see with the magnitude. Even the R. Kelly documentary, I feel like there was always rumors about R. Kelly, but I believe I can fly. Then you see it in the documentary, it's like, You know what? I'll shelf that song. I will.

Yeah. I don't know if there are... I have lived very peacefully without Chris Brown music. Really, my life has been unaffected.

Yeah, because it's also not your genre. So it's like, you haven't had to make a hard choice like his fans would have to.

There was a one or two R. Kelly songs. Ignition, The World's Greatest. That is a loss. That's hard.

I feel like it's easy to be like, Well, I didn't support Chris Brown because even if he was a good person, you wouldn't be obsessed with his music.

I don't know. It's good music. I get it.

It's fine. It's fine. But it's not like Rascal Flatts if you had to write them off.

That would be hard.

That would be hard. They would never. And maybe you would overlook some something for the box.

Maybe. I guess we'll never know.

Right. Hopefully. See you in Uncasville.

See you in Uncasville, C-T.

All's to say, see you in Uncasville.

I had such a great time chit-chatting with you today.

I always have a great time chit-chatting with you every day.

I'm going to see after this potential new studio.

Claudia, you're getting to a place of the boy who cried, new studio.

Bitch, I've literally seen three places.

Didn't you see one last week?

Yeah, it was a fine space, but the elevator, Jackie, it was an elevator. We were a group of five people going to see the space. We had to go two at a time. When you got to the floor, it made a little jump. It was horrible.

Okay. Well, I'm so excited for her new studio. I love... That will be a big part of Toast Herstry. Every studio that we've ever had is a major moment. It's its own era. So I'm looking forward to it.

We don't have to reflect and add a glance on this one yet because I don't have a new one. But we will, when I move, we will do a dedication.

When we do, we're going to remember this one so fondly. This is our longest running I love this studio. I know, and I think that's why you're not eager beaver to leave.

Yeah, it's such a great space. But unfortunately, what I realized this space is so great. I have tons of natural light and tall ceilings. I need the opposite of that. Really, for a podcast studio to flourish, Ben's sister is a real estate agent for commercial spaces, and she's helping me. I'm like, I need no windows, small ceilings. Put me in a bunker underground. Really to have good audio and video in the city, you need to be in a bunker. This space I'm seeing today has one window. I will be depressed, but the quality will be on point.

I think you could find a nice space that has a closet.

Well, today, I'll let you know. I love the building. I love everything about it, but who knows what the space actually looks like.

Okay, let me know. I look forward to hearing more, getting your video with all your commentary. So this is the room, every closet.

I do. I take a mean, very detailed video when I'm touring a new apartment, when I'm touring a new studio, because I need I take a picture of the block. I take a picture of the elevator.

I love it, by the way. I feel like just in general for other people, not for studio, because I do need to know this, but we don't need to see every closet because only you need to be okay with the closets. It doesn't matter to me how many closets you have.

Jackie has a hard line in her life. If you're sending her a new apartment, I want to move, do not include footage of you opening every closet. Don't open every door. She finds it infuriating. It just slows down the process.

And that stuff doesn't matter to me. I'm not living there. Do you think it's enough closet space? That's a total personal thing. But the person filming it, and I can speak for myself, I'm filming it for my own records.

I need to know how much closet space. You're just like, no offense, it's not for you.

I feel like it's for me.

I just want your opinion. Well, you'll always get that.

I know.

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