Transcript of Kristina Knickerbocker on Ohio’s 10th District Race as Trump Faces Polling Setbacks

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This MeidasTouch episode covers the reported slide in Donald Trump's approval in Ohio, Neil Young's lawsuit over the use of his song at a Trump rally, and the race in Ohio's 10th Congressional District. Host Ben Meiselas speaks with a former Trump and Mike Turner voter, then interviews Democrat Kristina Knickerbocker, who is challenging Turner, a congressman serving since 2003.

She argues that voters are frustrated with rising costs and health care changes, and that Turner ignored her warnings about a federal bill. Listeners get the host's commentary alongside the guest's arguments, which are her own views rather than verified findings.

In this episode Ben Meiselas, Kristina Knickerbocker

The transcript of this episode on Kristina Knickerbocker's Ohio race was made with the same technology HappyScribe uses for AI note taking.

00:00:00

Donald Trump's trip to Ohio, his disastrous speeches there, and his general behavior as it relates to Ohio backfiring in his face. He is crashing out there, and so are the MAGA Republican candidates in his orbit there. The latest poll has Donald Trump at -25 in Ohio. Can I repeat that? Trump is -25 in Ohio by the very prestigious YouGov Economist poll. So as the Trump regime gets ultra desperate, expert in Ohio. They do this culture war stuff. They're rolling it out, folks. They're laying it on thick. Michaels is under fire after Ohio store refuses to frame a Trump portrait and other items. Folks, the craft store Michaels is under fire for an incident that happened in Mayfield Heights, Ohio earlier this month. And we're gonna talk about it right now. What are we talking about? Because they didn't put up a Trump portrait. There were 3 items that the staff refused a customer's request: a favorite image of Trump to be framed, a religious watercolor painting of a praying president by an artist, and an original moon landing newspaper, folks. So ignore the fact that gas and diesel prices have hit record highs, that Trump's tariffs against the world have crippled everybody, that the Trump regime is covering up a pedo racket, a child sex trafficking— just ignore it all and we'll deal with some cold By the way, speaking of Ohio, did you hear this?

00:01:39

Neil Young is now suing the Trump regime for about $10 million over Ohio rally song. So Neil Young just filed suit against Donald Trump's fundraising committee after it broke its vow. What do you know? Donald Trump breaks its promise that it would never again use Rockin' in the Free World at a campaign rally. But guess what the Trump regime did after promise? What? We won't steal your music. They stole the music. And so Neil Young filed this lawsuit just now alleging that when Donald Trump arrived in Ohio and did that Youngstown rally or whatever the hell you want to call it, where Trump kept on talking about John Eustace's ass, then Trump went around the country to talk about John Eustace's ass, that Donald Trump was using the music. The lawsuit describes the song Rockin' in the Free World as a blistering anthem That contrasts the hollow promises of American political rhetoric with the harsh realities faced by the poor, homeless, and forgotten. The lyrics paint vivid street-level portraits— a mother discarding her baby, addicts lost in despair, garbage piling in the shadows of prosperity— while the repeated chorus delivers a savage irony, celebrating freedom that clearly isn't shared by all.

00:03:05

The song, Neil Young alleges, is the opposite of everything that Donald Trump stands for. And he says that Trump previously promised we won't use the song, but of all places, he goes to Youngstown. He goes to a working-class area that he screwed over and he steals Neil Young's music. Doesn't that just encapsulate everything about this fraudulent, this thieving, this disgusting Epstein-class regime? So let's zoom in for a moment over here though on Ohio's 10th Congressional District. Take a look right here. You have Christina Knickerbocker. She is polling ahead of the Trump stooge Mike Turner, who's been serving in Congress since 2003. He is trailing to Christina Knickerbocker by 3 points right now, and it's possible Christina can Pull this one off. She is an oncology nurse. She is a veteran. She has an incredible background. And I'll just show you what some Ohio voters are saying who were previous Trump, Mike Turner voters. Take a listen to what this Ohio voter, Heath, who shared this story— this guy voted for Mike Turner all of the time and he's like, I can't vote for this guy right now. And we're hearing this story over and over again.

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Here, play this clip.

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Hi, I'm Heath. I used to vote for Mike Turner, but not anymore. Trump and the Republicans' disastrous policies in Washington mean that we're paying more for food, that gas is through the roof, and people are finding it incredibly hard to find a decent place to live. Mike has been with Trump every step of the way. He's clearly not concerned about those of us back in the district dealing with real life. It's time for new leadership. I'm voting for Christina Knickerbocker.

00:04:57

And this one's going ultra viral right now. Take a look right here of this Christina Knickerbocker campaign, um, TV spot that she put. This one is going mega viral. Watch for yourself what's going on in the 10th Congressional District here. Play this clip.

00:05:13

I'm Christina Knickerbocker and I approve this message.

00:05:16

Dog tags don't list a party. Christina Knickerbocker earned hers serving at Wright-Patt. A nurse who will fight to lower the cost of healthcare. 30 years in politics has changed Mike Turner, millions in corporate cash, named one of the most corrupt members of Congress. Turner backs the war that raised gas prices. He backs the tariffs making food so expensive. Christina Knickerbocker served our country. After 30 years in politics, Mike Turner serves himself.

00:05:43

All right. I want to bring in the interview I just did with Christina. Let me bring in that interview right now. I just interviewed Christina. Now I want to bring in Christina Knickerbocker. Christina, great to see you. You're running for Ohio's 10th Congressional District, and nobody thought it would be possible, but right now you're actually leading in the polls against somebody named Mike Turner, MAGA Republican, a congressmember who's been representing that district since 2003, or I should say attacking Ohio's 10th Congressional District since 2003, viewed as One of the most corrupt politicians out there. And this was a +18 district in 2024, but the polls now have you ahead heading into the midterms. Something's changing obviously across the country, but especially in the 10th. I want to talk about your background, but you're a US Air Force veteran, oncology nurse practitioner, and mom of 2, and your life's been dedicated to service. So talk to us about this congressional district, Christina. What do you— What are you seeing over here? And I know you're in it to win it, but it's, it's an incredible development in this district, people are saying.

00:06:52

So I got into this race because I knew people were suffering on the ground. And as I got more familiar with the congressional seat, I knew it was winnable. It's an R+4, and you haven't had Turner ever face a really formidable candidate in a while. And we have the political winds in our favor this year with Democrats really winning at large throughout the country. And when you have the candidate that really resonates with the community, you know, as an Air Force officer and veteran, as well as a nurse practitioner that served in this community, people trust that and they're willing to say, hey, you know, I think it's time for new leadership. And so as I knock doors, you know, people are really struggling and Mike Turner is not fixing it. He's voting to make it worse.

00:07:38

You know, your background is not a politician. Your background, though, is giving back, fighting for the country, fighting for people. Um, what, what has this whole experience been like though? I mean, you know, uh, you know, seeing what it's like, I think you probably see the best of the country when you meet with people, but then seeing what Washington's trying to do to you and how they try to rig the game against helping people. I mean, let's talk about that a bit.

00:08:08

Yeah, so I think it really comes down to my background. I've always been an advocate for both my wingmen, wingmen in the force and also my patients. And so my allegiances are not to a political party. My allegiances are to my country, the Constitution, and the people that live and work here. And because of that, I've really been able to hold on to my values and not focus on a political party steering my talking points or really my perspectives on how Washington continues to fail the people that they are elected to represent. And more than ever, as I talk to my patients and people on on the ground, they're ready for integrity. They're ready for bold leadership. They're ready for someone to stand up against the status quo, take on corruption, and make sure that we are electing someone that's going to be courageous and stand up to a party when they get it wrong.

00:09:03

Talk to us about Ohio 10. Just remind some of us who are not from Ohio 10 what's there. Um, talk to us about the cities in Ohio 10. And, and as you travel to these various cities, what are you What are you hearing over and over and over again right now?

00:09:21

So Ohio 10 is made up of Greene County, Montgomery County, and Middletown, which is where J.D. Vance grew up. And the Dayton area is one of the bigger metro areas between Columbus and Cincinnati. It's also home to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, where I served as an Air Force officer for a decade. And when I'm talking to people, they're sick of the lies from both parties, from politicians that are really just out for themselves to gain power. And, you know, my opponent, Mike Turner, he is heavily dependent on corporate PAC money and also the corporate donors in the area and defense contractors, pharmaceutical companies, health insurance companies. And people are realizing he's not standing up for this community like he says he is. In 2025, Doge came in and cut several, you know, hundreds of jobs, and he did nothing to protect the people that work at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base or the VA. And so people are ready for someone to say, this is wrong, we're going to stand up against it, and I'm going to focus on the people, not these corporations. And that's the difference right now. People are sick of the status quo and they want change.

00:10:32

You know, we've seen these visits by, you know, Trump, we've seen these visits by Vance, you know, and they go and They say things are amazing. They said, this is great. They say there is no inflation, that this is the golden age and everything couldn't be better right now. And it's just, you know, and then they also— and there's also just qualities that I'd love to pick your brain about where they just say very mean, demeaning, degrading, odd things. Yeah. Just like odd behavior. You know, someone like yourself veteran leadership positions. You know, when, when you're, you know, in the— when you're a college nurse and you're there and people's lives are on the line, I mean, if you or someone else was behaving the way that like the Trump and the Turners like conduct themselves, you know, people die. People die. So at the top level, when this behavior is so clownish, it's not like, you know, people laugh at it sometimes and go, oh, you know, he's going around the country talking about you know, men's body parts and this and that and saying things. It's like, come on, let's be leaders. Like, what is this?

00:11:46

Right. And I think that really talks about this administration as a whole. You know, we have so many incompetent leaders from RFT Jr. to Pete Hegseth to so many Republicans that have refused to stand up to this political rhetoric that is really harmful not only to our country's reputation, but it's harmful to the people in this country. And In 2025, I was looking at the big beautiful bill and getting really familiar with how it was going to impact my patients. And I don't have a political agenda. I'm focused on taking care of my patients that I see in the neuro-oncology department. And I warned, I called and warned Congressman Turner. I called and warned Senator Houston. And I said, this is going to kill people in our community. I will tell you the details. You call me. I'm an expert in both like the military sector and the civilian sector, and we must be held accountable and make sure we get this right before it is signed. And I got no response, not an email, not a call from staff. And so on July 4th, when— July 4th, 2025, when this bill was signed into law, I took it so personally.

00:12:53

And I, as an advocate for my patients, I said, there is no way they're going to get away with this. And yet we are seeing, unless we elect new leadership in both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party, We are losing hope for people being accessed, being able to access healthcare, being able to access affordable groceries, being able to access affordable childcare. And there are so many different things that people are struggling with right now. That is such a shame that Republicans dare say everything is just okay when I'm on the ground taking care of the patients that can't even afford their prescriptions and they are choosing to neglect care because they can't afford insurance. And that is what's increasing costs for all of us.

00:13:38

Yeah. And while all of those issues are existential, like it's not hyperbolic to say this is life or death for people. Trump goes into your state, he goes into your cities, and his main talking point— and like, it pains me to say this. I mean, I have a daughter. I know you have 2 kids. You have a son and a daughter, right? You know, and, and he, and he goes, hey, Ohio, Have you seen Eustace? And I don't want to say the word, you know, have you seen his backside? And then he goes around the country talking about John Eustace and how he's attracted to him and how his butt— and I'm just thinking, this is the presidency. And, and, and I think he wants the sideshow. He wants the clown show because he doesn't want us talking about those things. But it also raises, you know, a lot of difficult conversations that we have to have with our children sometimes about like, this is not good behavior, this is not acceptable. But the president— this is not a role model for you. I mean, there was a court order the other day that said— this is astonishing— a federal judge said this is the first time that the DOJ is arguing that you can't believe the words of the president of the United States when he makes social media posts.

00:14:50

And it's like, why? Why? Why? We can't accept this as the status quo.

00:14:54

Right, exactly. And I think that really speaks to the leadership we need right now. It's someone willing to stand up to the Constitution. And as someone that took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, my allegiances are to the Constitution, not a political party or a president. And we must stand up for that. We must stand up for high-quality leadership. Not anybody can get a job because of their relationships. They need to be able to get a job because they are high quality. And when we put that into legislation, which we know we're going to have to do now because somehow we have so many incompetent leaders in office. We have to hold our system accountable. And now that we've seen there are things that are broken, we can never elect a president like this again because it is not representative of the American people or our values in this country.

00:15:44

And, you know, we have so many nurses who watch the Midas Touch Network, and very early on we worked with the Nurses Association, you know, up in Washington State and elsewhere, because the Trump regime's continued to attack nurses. Like, like they, they like zoom in on people who are like the most helpful and, you know, removing the degree classification. Like every day there was something else, you know, with, with, with nurses. And so I just want to give a shout out to all the Midas Mighty nurses out there. And, and, and, you know, everybody's rooting for you and, and, and, and cheering you on. I want you to know that. So before we go though, where could people learn more? What do you want people to do before this election? And final message, we have about 7 million subscribers on this network.

00:16:28

Amazing. Well, they can go to christinanickerbocker.com to learn more. Please engage with our socials, follow us, share us. That's how we really grow our movement. We have 7 days until this election and there are still many undecided voters. So if you can volunteer and sign up for campaign updates, please do, because you can phone bank across the country and you can truly make a difference. Every conversation as you door knock or on the phone can bring someone to vote, uh, for the right person, and that's what we need in this election. So come fight with us. We're gonna win this in a week, and I appreciate you having me.

00:17:01

Christina, great to have you on. I was looking at that race and I was seeing you pulling ahead, and now that I got to meet you, I really get to see why. Thanks for your service. Thanks for all you do. We appreciate you.

00:17:13

Thank you so much. You take care.

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump's Ohio visit backfiring as his net approval hits negative 25 in the latest Economist/YouGov poll. Ben speaks with a former Trump and Mike Turner voter, then interviews Kristina Knickerbocker, the Democrat running in Ohio's 10th Congressional District who leads Turner in a recent poll and could unseat him after more than two decades in Congress.

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