Transcript of Melania Throws Donald Under the Bus on Epstein Files
The MeidasTouch PodcastThanks, Melania. Melania Trump has thrown Donald Trump under the bus in perhaps the way he feared the most with respect to the Epstein files. Now, Melania Trump is running away. She is evading service by Michael Wolf, who sued her after she threatened Wolf, that Wolf needed to apologize and retract statements about her connections with Jeffrey Epstein. Michael Wolf said that she was chilling his first First Amendment speech and that her threats constituted an abuse of process. He filed a lawsuit against her in New York, and he's ready to take discovery. He wants her deposition. He wants Trump's deposition. He wants emails, documents, and text messages from her. He wants emails, documents, and text messages from Donald Trump. In connection with his lawsuit, he's got a process server who's been trying to serve her all across the country. She's not accepting service. Her lawyer who sent the letter, Threatening Wolf, is refusing to accept service. He goes, I'm not representing her in connection with this. And he previously said in the letter, Threatening Wolf, please direct all of your correspondence to me. And so now this has backfired in Melania's face. But more significantly, this has backfired in Donald Trump's face.
Because Michael Wolf isn't just any author. Michael Wolf is Donald Trump's former biographer. He knows Donald Trump well. He knows Melania well. He sat down with both of them. He's spoken with so many people in Donald Trump's orbit. He knows where a lot of the bodies are buried. And so for Melania to go after Michael Wolf and then now run away from Michael Wolf after she threatened Wolf that she was going to sue him, you can see a disaster on the horizon for both her and Donald Trump. And not only is Michael Wolf Donald Trump's former biographer, he's a former biographer for Rupert Murdoch.
But you know who he was potentially also going to be a former biographer for?
Yep, you know it. Jeffrey Epstein, who spoke with him and told him about and showed him photos of Donald Trump and young ladies or perhaps girls, individuals of indeterminate age. Wolf says, I've seen photos that Epstein showed me. Wolf was told a lot of inside stories from Jeffrey Epstein from Steve Bannon, about Donald Trump's fears regarding what Epstein knew.
So Melania threatened Wolf.
Melania said, I'm going to sue you, Wolf. Melania has not sued Michael Wolf. Wolf sued Melania, and now Melania is refusing to accept service right now. And Wolf, he's ready to go. He wants to go into court. He wants discovery right now. So why I'm saying Melania threw Trump under the bus? Because now you have Michael Wolf, who is out there, aggressive. It's like his dream come true as a former Trump biographer, right?
He can get all this information in discovery now. She's opened the door to that.
So here's what Michael Wolf recently said about his attempts to have a process server serve Melania Trump and her efforts to evade service of process.
And so it's like, she She wants to be a bully. She threatened to sue Michael Wolf for $1 billion. Michael Wolf sued her. She didn't counter-sue, and now she's running away.
I want you to watch this. Here, play this clip of Michael Wolf talking about how Melania is now running away.
Play this clip.
This is an update about my lawsuit against the first lady of the United States. I think she's running from us. By suing her, we have the right to subpoena her and her husband and their friends and to ask all concern about their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. We have tried to serve her lawyer in Florida. He has absolutely refused to take service of our lawsuit. We've sent a Process Server to Trump Tower, where we understand she lives, not in the White House, but in Trump Tower. And that Process Server, who seemed perfectly familiar with serving people in Trump Tower, a lot of dubious people there. When the server found out that it was the first lady. They panicked. They refused to do it. We got another server to go, and this was just yesterday. They arrived at Trump Tower. They were prevented from getting in by security Security. Security told them that they would take any papers and throw them in the garbage. But they did confirm that Melania Trump lives in Trump Tower. So this is a historical point. The first lady of the United States does not live in the White House. She lives in Trump Tower.
We will now go into court as early as tomorrow.
Now, just a reminder about Michael Wolf's lawsuit. You see it right here.
He filed it on October 21st of this past year, so before the Epstein files were released.
And by the way, Michael Wolf, you've seen him here dozens of time on the Midas Touch Network, where he He's talked about things that you're now seeing in the release of emails from the Democrats on the House Oversight Committee from the Epstein estate.
Because remember, Wolf mentioned the Steve Banon Epstein connections, and now we're seeing lots of emails of Epstein emailing Banon and what Banon was telling Wolf. So everything that Wolf said is spot on.
Here's Wolf's lawsuit, and he says, On October 15th, 2015, defendant Melania Trump, through her counsel, demanded that Wolf immediately retracts certain statements which Wolf allegedly published about Mrs. Trump.
A copy of Trump's attorney threat letter, Melania Trump's attorney threat letter, is attached as an exhibit. Number two, the threat letter insisted that if Wolf did not comply with these demands by October 21st, 2025, at 05: 00 PM, that Mrs. Trump would initiate legal action against Wolf for over $1 billion in damages. And then Wolf says, as a result of this threatened legal action, it creates a climate of fear. It creates a chilling impact on Wolf's First Amendment speech. So Wolf says, I'm suing. Here's the letter just so you can see. The letter that was sent by Melania Trump to Michael Wolf. The lawyer is Alejandro Brito. Notably, Brito also represents Donald Trump on a lot of actions right here. October 15th, 2025. And here's what it says, This Law Firm serves as litigation counsel for the first lady of the United States of America, Mrs. Melania Trump. Please direct all future correspondence relating to this matter to my attention. This correspondence serves as a demand under Florida law that you must immediately retract and apologize for false defamatory, disparaging, and inflammatory statements made about Mrs. Trump, which were published in The Daily Beast and contained in the article titled Melania Trump, Very Involved in Epstein Scandal.
Author, failure to comply will leave Mrs. Trump with no choice but to pursue any and all legal rights and remedies available to recover the overwhelming financial and reputational harm that you have caused her to So you see right there, by the way, this lawyer, Alejandro Brito, is saying, Please direct all future correspondence to my attention. So now that Michael Wolf has filed a lawsuit against Melania, he's directed it to the burrito's attention. He goes, Hey, you're the lawyer, right? You threatened to sue me. Can you accept service of the lawsuit? Because you have to serve somebody with a summons after you file a lawsuit for you to then start discovery If the lawsuit gets filed, then you have to serve them. And you know how sometimes people avoid process servers? That's what's going on right now. But she's represented by a lawyer, right? So Michael Wolf is like, Yeah, let me try to serve the lawyer. And the lawyer is not accepting service. So here's what Melania says was defamatory. The article's defamatory statements. Here are the false statements in the article that were made by you, which are defamatory per se, and which were published by the Daily Beast.
Melania Trump is very involved in the Epstein scandal. First Lady Melania could be the missing link in President Trump's ties to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Melania was very involved in Epstein's social circle and noted that this is how she met Trump. She's introduced by a model agent, both of whom Trump and Epstein are involved with. She's introduced to Trump that way. Epstein knew her well. Then the lawyer for Melania says, All of this is false. All of this is defamatory, disparaging, inflammatory. You publish this deliberately to denigrate Mrs. Trump. Immediately issue a retraction and immediately issue an apology. If you do not comply with the above, by October 21st, 2025, Mrs. Trump will be left with no alternative but to enforce her legal and equitable rights, all of which are expressly reserved, including by filing a legal action against you for over $1 billion in damages. You are hereby put on notice. And so Michael Wolf said, Okay, you're putting me on notice. I'm suing you. He sues. She's now running away, avoiding process servers. He's going to have to go into court now to make a court order that says that basically after you try to serve someone a certain amount of times, a court can deem the lawsuit served.
So the court's going to deem the lawsuit served because he's gone through all of these efforts to serve her. And you know now that she actually lives at Trump Tower, not at the White House. That's been definitively established, according to Michael Wolf, in his opinion, my opinion. And so now he's going to get ready to unleash discovery. And who's he going to subpoena Donald Trump. He's going to subpoena Melania. He's going to want their phones, their text messages, their emails, all of their communications. And they're going to be hauled in to have to testify right now. So when I say Melania threw Trump under the bus, Melania, if you're going to go and do this and threaten people, then you better be ready for them to file lawsuits against you for injunctive relief, anti-slap actions for abuse of process, as Michael Wolf just did. And you're going to have to be prepared. Otherwise, why would you provoke? Why would you poke a sleeping bear like Michael Wolf? Like Michael Wolf, granted, he wasn't necessarily sleeping. I mean, he was covering the stuff. But now you're giving someone like that an inside track to get discovery on you Donald Trump.
By the way, Melania tried to pull the same thing with Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden is like, Do it. Sue me. Please sue me, Melania. And she never sued Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden said what Michael Wolf said. He was ciding Michael Wolf's report. Here's what Hunter had to say. Here, play this clip.
Melania's lawyer sent me a letter saying, They're going to sue me for a billion dollars. My response to that was, Please do. In court, I would have the right to, number one, depose the person that sued me, and that be the individual Melania Trump, and I would have the right to subpoena and depose and seek discovery from every single person in their circle that would or potentially have knowledge about the genesis of the relationship between Donald Trump and Melania and their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
So I had the opportunity to interview Michael Wolf, and I asked him, I said, So are you going to go after discovery? Are you Are you going to get depositions of Donald Trump and Melania? Here's what he told me. I'm going to talk about all of the Epstein connections. You wanted to do this? We're going to do this, and we're going to do discovery. I want Donald Trump's deposition right now as well. So talk to us about the discovery that you're looking to get in this case?
Well, I think that this is an opportunity to ask all of the questions that they have refused to answer. I mean, it's very straightforward. I mean, we know that Donald Trump had a long, long, deep abiding relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Let's hear the details. Let's hear the details of their financial involvement. Let's hear the details of their sexual involvement. Not that they were involved together, but one or the other as each other's wingman in many situations. And I say that using the politest words. Let's get into it. Let's get into Melania's history. How does she come to this country? What does she do when she's here? How does she meet Donald Trump? What's her relationship to the modeling agents who knew both Epstein and Trump? I mean, these are all of the questions which I think once they are answered, we will have a much clearer picture of what Jeffrey Epstein did who he did it to and how the President of the United States was involved.
Here's what Michael Wolf told Anthony Scaramucci about how Melania hates Donald Trump's effing guts. Play this clip.
She hasn't shown up in any instances in any of his court appearances. Somebody told me the story of Jason Miller approaching her and saying, Hey, it would be great in terms of the first indictment of you coming there and stand by your man. And then she laughed and said, Nice try. Anyway, I was talking this through with one of the people and asking, So what's going on here? Really, what is this about? And I remember this person looked at me with incredulity as though it should be obvious to anyone. And this person said, She hates his fucking guts. And then at that moment, you go, Oh, my God. But could this be anything else other than that?
Now, Michael Wolf knows a lot because he was also going to be Epstein's potential biographer. And Epstein told Wolf a ton of things. So Wolf knows, for example, photographs that Epstein showed him. So Wolf's going to go and ask Trump and Melania questions like this. Here's Here's what Wolf said about the photographs that he saw. Here, play this clip.
I've said before that Epstein used to bring out this set of pictures. There were about a dozen snapshots. And And among them, there are at least three that I remember, two of topless girls sitting in Trump's lap around Epstein's swimming pool, and then one with a stain on the front of Trump's pants with three or four girls laughing and pointing at it. So I have seen those pictures.
So what's your best guess?
I still where they are.
Well, my best guess is that Epstein He kept them in the safe. The safe was emptied out by the FBI. Where are those pictures?
Now, I think that Wolf is also going to ask Melania a lot of questions. I think she has a lot of explaining to do, right? I mean, we know that Melania gave false information about her background of arriving in the United States. Pull up this article right here. She said she graduated from a university that she didn't. Take a look at this article. With degree debunked, Melania Melania Trump website is taken down. Melania Trump's cribbing last week of Michelle Obama's lines, She stole Michelle Obama's convention speech. Do you remember that? Was not the first time she claimed something that was not hers. For months now, reporters have noted that Ms. Trump, who grew up in a small Slovenian town of Svanica, did not obtain an undergraduate degree in architecture from the University of Ljublana, and her professional website claims she did. Instead, she left after her first year to pursue a modeling career in Milan. As recently as a week ago, Ms. Trump's website stated that she had obtained a degree before going on to become a philanthropist and skincare entrepreneur. On Wednesday, The Huffington Post noticed that the site had been entirely scrubbed. Of its content, people clicking on its address are now redirected to the Trump Organization website.
That was July 28th, 2016, and Melania posted, The website in question was created in 2012 and has been removed because it does not accurately reflect my current business in professional interest. No, it was removed because it did not accurately reflect your past. I think that there's a lot of questions to ask Melania about her past. And so if I were to have her deposition as well, I'd be asking a lot of questions about how'd you get here into the United States? How'd you get an Einstein visa? What's the connection with Paulo Zampoli? You all know Paulo Zampoli? March 11th, 2025, Donald Trump writes, I'm pleased to announce that I appointed Paulo Zampoli as special envoy for global partnership. With his extensive experience working with the United Nations, the Kennedy Center, and various international initiatives, Paulo will help us advance America's interest on the global stage. Congratulations, Paulo. That's March 11th, 2025. Well, who is Paulo Zampoli? When Donald met Melania, Paulo was there. Here's how the New York Times described things in an August 31, 2016 article. A couple of weekends ago, Paulo Zampoli received a text message from Melania Trump, the wife of the Republican candidate for President, urging him to give her a call.
The next day, Mr. Zampoli, a former modeling agent who discovered the Sloven 20 years ago from Slovenia in Milan, listened as Mrs. Trump expressed anguish over a gossipy report in the British tabloy, The Daily Mail, accusing her and Mr. Zampoli of operating an escort service in the 1990s. This is outrageous, the New York Times writes. Mrs. Trump said on the call, according to Mr. Zampoli, explaining that she was considering filing a lawsuit against The Daily Mail for making false and defamatory statements. He said she sounded extremely disturbed. Mr. Zampoli, 46, sounded less than disturbed as he spoke over a recent lunch of pasta in Gramercy Park townhouse, which is decorated with works of Picasso and others. In his monogram dress shirt and Italian-acented English, the one-time mainstay of New York gossip pages called the report Rubbish and Disgusting, but also seemed to relish his to the public eye. Now, here's what else the article talks about how they met each other at the Kit Kat Club when Paulo Zampoli introduced them. He secured Mrs. Trump's visa to the United States and introduced her to Donald Trump at a 1998 party he hosted at the Kit Kat Club.
Mr. Zampoli's parties have featured an alligator, tiger cubs, and models at nightclubs, blowing Kisses at fashion television cameras. That's Paulo Zampoli. I'd be asking a lot A lot of questions there. Here were some questions that were posed by Simon Rosenberg back in 2016, and I think these are questions that would be asked at her deposition at well if she once services effectuated. Now that Donald Trump has promised... This was August 10th, 2016. Now that Donald Trump has promised to address the question of whether Melania Trump broke immigration laws when she emigrated to the United States in the mid-1990s and in the process of gaining her citizenship, there are at least four questions that need to be answered directly by the Trump campaign in the coming days. By the way, this was August ninth, of 2016, when Trump said he would hold a presser and answer questions about Melania's immigration status. Play this clip.
Maybe she came in illegally. Maybe. Let me tell you one thing. She has got it so documented, so she's going to have a little news conference over the next couple of weeks. That's good. I love it. They said, Claudia Trump may have come into our country illegally, and how would that be for Donald Trump to be talked? Here's the only problem. She came in totally illegally. I mean, that's what it looks like. All right, but you'll see it a little while. I said to her, No, no, let it simmer for a little while. Let them go wild. Let it simmer.
Here are questions that Simon Rosenberg said, What work visas did Ms. Trump have in the years before she received her green card in 2001? Can you produce them and their applications for the public to see green card. Can you explain how Mrs. Trump received her green card in 2001? Was it based on an employer or family sponsor? If employment related, who was the sponsor? Was it through marriage, as was reported on August fifth? Did Mrs. Trump get her green card by other means? Can you produce the green card? Purpose of early travel to US. Can Mrs. Trump provide the date and purpose of each of her visits to the United States prior to moving here in 1996? Did she work even for free during any of these visits? We know she was here in 1995, and an associate from those days, Paulo Zampoli, has said on the record that she was living here before receiving a work visa in 1996. As you are aware, the United States government has a record of every trip she made in and out of the US prior to her receiving a green card. So it would help us all understand her complete immigration story by providing this information as it is already known by the immigration authorities in the US.
Those are the questions that will be asked. We will keep you posted every step of the way here, of course, at the Midas Touch Network. But now she's running away. These are the questions that will be asked in a deposition. Let me know what you think. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million. We appreciate you.
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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on how Melania Trump screwed over Donald on the Epstein files by threatening to sue Michael Wolff who responded by suing her and demanding discovery which has caused her to now run away and hide from the process server.
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