Transcript of GOP Stunned as Cross-Exam of Fani Willis Instantly Backfires

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00:00:13

You all want to intimidate people from doing the right thing. You think that you're going to intimidate me. But you see, I'm not Marjorie Taylor-Greene.

00:00:21

I ain't going to quit in a month because somebody threatened me.

00:00:24

Did you hear what Fulton County district attorney, Fawnie Willis said there? She goes, I'm not going to be intimidated like Marjorie Taylor-Greene because you're threatening me. If you think you're going to make me quit, I ain't going to quit. Fulton County district attorney, Fawnie Willis, attended a hearing that she was compelled to show up at within the Georgia State Senate. The MAGA Republicans on the Georgia State Senate, wanted to bring Fawnee Willis there to attack her, to try to attack her credibility. But Fawnie Willis turned the tables on the MAGA Republicans in that Senate. I'm going to show you a portion of this hearing that took place last week. And by the way, I apologize for not bringing you this hearing last week. It was a few days ago when this hearing took place, the 17th, and I should have been covering it, but better late than ever, because this is some explosive stuff right here, and I know you probably missed it. So here you have a MAGA Republican senator start to try to cross-examine Fawnie Willis, and she's just incredibly pushes back and stands on business and says, First off, you're asking me pretty dumb questions here.

00:01:36

She goes, That's a dumb ass question you just asked me. But let me explain to you what went down. Where people commit crimes in this jurisdiction, Where people are criminals in Fulton County, my job is to prosecute them. I would do it again. They're criminals. Trump's a criminal. The co-conspirators are criminals. I'm not scared and I'm not intimidated by you. Here, watch this incredible clip right here. Let's play it.

00:02:01

When did you begin to consider whether to bring charges in response to the 2020 presidential election in Georgia?

00:02:07

Don't answer that. That's a deliberative privilege. Don't answer that. I instruct you not to answer.

00:02:14

Is it true that part of your transition team was involved in the process of interviewing people before you entered office to lead the investigation to the 2020 presidential election?

00:02:27

I'd like to answer that.

00:02:29

Go right You only take my advice sometimes anyway. Go ahead.

00:02:37

That's really an ignorant question. If you understand what the word ignorant means, it means the lack of knowledge. If you recall the facts, I was already district attorney when this all came to light. It's factually impossible.

00:02:55

You were district attorney when what came to light?

00:02:58

When Raff Rindsberger went on Good Morning, America, or whatever show he went on. I was already district Attorney. What you ask is a factual impossibility. Now, I know they've gotten Black folks confused and said, I was running for office saying I was going to prosecute the President of the United States, but that's what we call a lie. Okay. I would like to- from here on out, okay?

00:03:21

Yeah.

00:03:33

If you take a look at the screen for me, if you will. This is from Mr. Wade's deposition to members of Jim Jordan's committee. He was asked for the Search Committee. You said that began when DA Willis took office on January 1, 2021. Is that correct? Yes. There was outreach to you to be part of the search committee prior to January 1, 2021. Absolutely. When did that start? Sometime after the election or prior to her taking office. Okay, so between the election, you're referring to November 2020 election. Is that correct? Yes, ma'am. When you had conversations with individuals, you said on multiple occasions, you said no, and you turned down the position. Who who were those conversations with? They were with the district attorney.

00:04:18

I think you're confusing facts. We've already had a long conversation about I interviewed everybody at the DA's office, and I interviewed other people to come and work at the district attorney's office, and As I told you, I did that on my free time before I became DA. But I had no way of knowing that these criminals were going to commit a crime. That did not come to light until January of 2021 when I'm actually the DA. It is a factual impossibility, like I already told you. I think that that is misinterpreted. He's absolutely correct. We looked for talent for the district Attorney's office before I became the DA. I didn't wait till the day I took office to look for talent that would represent my office. But I was unable to look for talent for a case that didn't exist before I took office. It's factually impossible. I mean, it's common sense. You don't need to be a lawyer.

00:05:16

I'm going to read you some additional testimony. I'll try to put it on the screen.

00:05:18

You can read me as much as you want, but that's the truth.

00:05:20

I will. Thank you, Madam D. I apologize. This I did not intend to have to get into this here. When Mr. Wade says that there was an interview on Line 13, as you'll see here, this is prior to you entering office. What were you interviewing him for?

00:05:51

I didn't interview him prior to him entering office. He had a thriving law practice. Even when he ends up being offered the position, he He doesn't want it.

00:06:01

Okay. It's your testimony today that you and Mr. Wade did not have any conversations prior to you taking office relative to an investigation into the 2020 election.

00:06:18

Don't answer that. That is a deliberative privilege of what goes on in a district attorney's mind in the process of- She wasn't a district attorney.

00:06:28

She was. It Prior to being sworn in, she was district attorney?

00:06:32

No, she was not.

00:06:33

But you- I'll return to my question. Prior to you being sworn as district attorney, is it your testimony today that you did not have any conversation with Mr. Wade about investigating the 2020 election?

00:06:50

Do you want to answer?

00:06:52

It's a dumb-ass question.

00:06:54

I know it is, but go ahead and tell it because it occurred after she took office.

00:06:59

But I didn't know that he was going to commit a crime prior to me taking office. Like, factually, it's impossible.

00:07:06

Okay. Thank you.

00:07:07

Then you can see right here that this is the longer clip where Fonie Willis says that I'm not Marjorie Taylor-Greene. You can see that she just doesn't give a crap what these MAGA Republicans are trying to do. Watch as she goes scorched earth on state Senator MAGA Republican Greg DeLizel, who's also running for Lieutenant Governor. Here, watch this.

00:07:30

You all want to intimidate people from doing the right thing, and you think that you're going to intimidate me. You all have been trying to intimidate me for five years, which is why I have not been able to live in my house for five years, because the N word has been written on my house. Thousands of the threats have come to my office. Instead of doing some legislation when someone says something inflammatory that you know is going to cause them to be the victims of crime, you ought to do something about it. But you see, I'm not Marjorie Taylor-Greene. I ain't going to quit in a month because somebody threatened me. I took an oath to do the right thing. People came into my community and committed a crime, and I indicted them. And rest assured, if someone else comes in my community and commits a crime, I will indict them a Again.

00:08:15

Now, here during testimony before the State Senate Committee, Fulton County district Attorney Fawnee Willis then talked about why she took the election interference case. Here, play this clip.

00:08:26

Let me turn you back on one final when you touched on it, and that was at the end of the day, this case here, this conspirative case that took place, why did you bring this case?

00:08:37

Because folks came in my jurisdiction and broke the law.

00:08:40

As elected officials, there are things that are precious and that are our responsibility.

00:08:45

One in a free society is keeping people safe.

00:08:49

I stand on the line keeping people safe every single day. I have dedicated my entire career to making sure that people are safe and that they feel valued, children feel valued, no matter who you are. See, I'm not like these people. I believe in diversity. I've sat on my floor and cried with little white children, Black children, Spanish children, and I fight with my last breath to keep those people safe. But I have also prosecuted Black people, White people, Asian people. It doesn't matter to me. It seems to matter to some. I brought this case because they came in this jurisdiction and broke the law. They didn't only break the law here, they broke it other places, because the other thing that we have to do as a free society is we have to protect elections. It is important. If the people of this jurisdiction, the 19th, voted Senator Blake Tillery to be that senator, then I have to work to make sure that he is instilled into office. If someone does something, goes into a voting booth like they did in coffee county, they do that. If they threaten workers, these little old people that work the polls.

00:09:50

How dare somebody threaten them? How dare you all not take that to be important? Is it not important because it was an older Black female? It ought to be important to everybody. That's who all are here to protect, those that cannot protect themselves. I'm willing to stand on the line so you all can keep threatening me, keep bringing me in these committees, keep auditing me, and I'm going to keep doing my job with excellence.

00:10:12

Here she says, I'm not afraid. I'll indict the guy again if I have to here play this clip.

00:10:17

Trying to keep people safe. And you all have me in here with this foolishness. I indicted them. I'm going to indict them again. If they committed a crime in my jurisdiction, I don't care if you like it. It's not 1948. Let me get to this.

00:10:28

It's not I know that you're offended that it- I didn't- So here's the question.

00:10:34

To invite rich white men, but I would do it again.

00:10:37

But I would also fight with my last breath to see that they were protected.

00:10:41

Then you had a Democratic state senator here asking her some questions towards the end of the hearing. I want you to watch as Fulton County district Attorney Fawnie Willis just goes through what went down here. Let's play this clip right here.

00:10:55

Right now, just yesterday, a judge in Wisconsin said, You're going to 11 charges, based on a similar scheme that took place in Georgia.

00:11:05

No. It should be noted that Roman was indicted in three separate states and that many of the co-defendants were indicted in separate states because Let's be clear, so the record is clear.

00:11:17

In my indictment in Arizona, they indicted John Eastman, Gina Ellis, Riber Giuliani, Mark Meadows, and Mike Roman. Mike Roman was represented by a merchant who came here and testified. In Wisconsin, they also indicted Cheeseborough and Roman. We could go on and on. The federal case had only one defendant, Donald Trump, but he was also indicted in my case. These defendants committed crimes in our state and other states. There's all this talk about political enemies. Not one of these defendants do I consider to be my political enemy. I'm sorry that they think of me as an enemy. I guess they don't know that their job is to serve me, to work for me, to make life better for me and my family. But they are not my political enemy, and I actually pray for them because I see issues.

00:12:13

Also within Wisconsin, the fake electors there actually got sued, and the discovery in that case was over 577 pages. Now, you didn't get to the discovery process in your particular case, but I'm just curious because we were talking about Mr. Skandalack and how deep he got into your case. How voluminous was your case at the time it stopped?

00:12:37

Huge. Much of this room, it could fill up, if not all of this room. It was huge. It was lots of witnesses that had to do. A lot of work was put into this because I always want to make sure that I am a fair DA. That's why you see a grand jury recommending 39 people based on their conduct being indicted and cutting it down to 19, because I'm only going to put forth those with the worst evidence who did the worst things. But I'm also a fighter for victims, and I was fighting for the victims in this case. The fact that to some prosecutors, Ruby Freeman and her daughter have no value. She has value to me, and she should have value to other Americans, because what happened to her is horrible. For someone to say they couldn't prosecute a defendant who came in a room and lied for the grand jury, I mean, a baby prosecutor could have prosecuted it, but that's neither here nor there.

00:13:34

Lastly, where we're talking about billing being correct or things of that nature, critical mentions, does any of that change the impact, I think, where these co-conspirators were doing, based on the indictment, that the ultimate goal was to overthrow the 2020 election.

00:13:51

That was the ultimate goal. We've had people that are supposed to be leaders that instead of being leaders, are just cowering down This country needs leaders, not cowards.

00:14:03

I don't have anything else, Mr..

00:14:04

And here, Fannie Willis goes back to that Macca Republican state senator and goes, Look, sir, I've told you, I don't trust you. I don't trust what you're saying. I don't trust the documents you're showing me. Here, play this clip.

00:14:16

The date that I have is January 24th of 2022. Does that seem like it's within the range of being the correct thing?

00:14:23

Sir, I already stated, I don't trust you. I understand you're trying to run for lieutenant governor right now. Anything you want me to testify to, I'm going to need to see. Okay.

00:14:32

Were you aware that in between the time of this special grand jury being sworn in and receiving evidence, Mr. Wade traveled to Athens, Georgia, to meet with officials from the White House Counsel's office?

00:14:41

I don't recall.

00:14:44

On the right-hand side here is the meeting that I reference. The highlight section reads, Travel to Athens, Conf with White House Counsel.

00:14:55

How does this assist you in developing laws for Georgia? Because I I believe the purpose that I'm here for is because you all need assistance in doing your job, and you want assistance with rules and regulations around how people should be a prosecutor.

00:15:10

It made sense to me that you'd come to the best prosecutor in the state to ask for some advice, but I'm confused as to how this assist you and what the purpose of me being here is.

00:15:21

The committee has a broad purpose. I'd be happy to refer to counsel as to the overall purpose of the committee, but my question for you is, as a relation- I don't think it's relevant, so I'm objecting on She's asking and answered.

00:15:32

She's told you that the TUI process goes through the White House Council.

00:15:38

She's asked and it has been asking and answered. It's your testimony today that the Travel to Athens, conference with the White House Council, as far as you were aware, was due to a part of this TUI process that the governor is referencing.

00:15:52

I've testified. I don't recall anything about this.

00:15:54

Okay.

00:15:56

I don't see how it's relevant to what your alleged purpose is. Now, your real purpose is to try to get elected, which I would say, Georgia, please, let's elect any lieutenant governor but this one.

00:16:09

There you have it, folks. I'm glad I could bring you that hearing because it was powerful and explosive. We need more courageous people like Fony Willis out there. You see how the MAGA establishment tries to crush someone like that, and she's like, You think I'm scared of you at all? Love it. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million. Thanks for watching. Love this video? Support independent media and unlock exclusive content. Add free videos and custom emojis by becoming a paid member of our YouTube channel today. You can also give memberships to others. Let's keep growing together.

Episode description

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Georgia Senate Republicans getting a rude awakening as Fulton County DA Fani Willis turns the tables on them when they called her in for a hearing to try and cross-examine her.

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