Transcript of The End Of An ERA For ESPN College Football | Hour 2

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So the NFL, it's been NFL news off the field the last couple of days where earlier in the week, I mean, you know, there was this study where, you know, as far as how often NFL players, football players are getting CTE. And, you know, we're talking like 25%, the study showed, which feels like an extraordinarily high number. Believable, but extraordinarily high, right?

Yeah.

And, and now to also try and curb injuries, the NFL and the NFLPA have agreed to suspensions for illegal hits like the, the horse collar And what's the—

That drop hip tackle.

Right, is there a name for that?

Yeah, I'll get the exact name, but that's what ended up doing Nick Chubb in.

Yeah, and, and, and, you know, the torpedo hits, you know, the leading with the helmet. And if a player accumulates 3 of those penalties throughout the season, they start doling out suspensions. 1-game suspension. That seems like Dude's gonna get suspended. That seems like a pretty punitive measure that they're taking.

It is weird because in essence it's like, hey, you know that football thing you do? Stop doing football while you play football, right? Like, these are— maybe the torpedo one is a little, a little much, but like the, the hip drop and the, the horse collar and all, like, it's just like these are tackles.

Hip drop is You know, at a certain point, you're going to have to reshape the game a little bit.

Sure.

And I do want to give the NFL and NFLPA some credit here because it seems clear to me that they knew that the news of this study, the CTE-related study that said 1 in 4 NFL players will have CTE pretty definitively, they knew that this was coming. They know how damaging that is to the sport and where this show in particular has been hypercritical of their television partners and the NFL themselves and how they responded from a public relations standpoint and from like an actual league rule standpoint. They're meeting the moment to the best of their ability, but it's also like tobacco companies trying to make cigarettes safer.

The difference between tobacco companies and this is that people like, oh yeah, everyone knows cigarettes give you cancer and all that stuff, but people still smoke it. Yeah, the difference is You don't get paid millions of dollars to smoke, right? Like this—

You're actually paying to do it.

Yeah, you're paying to do that.

It can't be my occupation to smoke cigarettes.

Right. Whereas this is like, it cannot go away. You can't bubble wrap it and it can't go away because ultimately, as long— whatever the risks are, people say, would you do it for $1 million? And the answer is going to be— there are going to be some dudes who are going to be like, yes, because it's better than the alternative. Or because they're playing the odds or whatever it is. But by the way, I'm not arguing against these rules or these suspensions.

And by the way, let me add real quick too, it's 5 types of hits like we mentioned: the hip drop tackle, the horse collar tackle, the— excuse me, the launching, uh, 2 more: hit on a defenseless player and blindside block.

Yeah, blindside block. The, the— I think the one that everyone has trouble with in understanding is like when the, the player— and I think it's actually excluded from this because they know how difficult that one is to rule on— the, the driving your body into the player and you have to kind of like roll off the quarterback.

But the swan dive pancake.

And, and I do know that some of these things are incidental, but to the— even to the untrained eye, like some of these things are pretty obvious. Like dirty hits are pretty obvious. There are moments where there is general consensus from everyone in a stadium and watching at home, like that person just did something dirty.

The defenseless receiver.

This stuff needs to be eradicated.

Sure, sure, but I guess my thing is you guys realize that the CTE doesn't come from— like, if we got rid of all the dirty hits, everyone would be fine.

Yeah, it comes from hitting people. It comes from, like, it comes from hitting people repeatedly, especially along the offensive line. But there are big-time traumatic events, sure, that, that can absolutely make these things worse, or in some cases You have a brain that probably— that might not have been prone to CTE, but because of one dirty hit might be there. I know what makes this all super difficult is we don't know what one hit did it when they donate their brains to science.

Right. This is— now, this is from the study from years ago, but what they found was like those massive hits are not the cause. Those massive hits for sure, like what happened to Nick Chubb, Yes, like, it can end your career in different ways. But when we talk about brain injuries, it is repeated hitting. Because what's happening is when you collide, your brain— like when you're in a car and if you're not wearing a seatbelt, the car stops, you move forward, and you smash against the windshield. That's what's happening in your brain inside your skull. When you hit, your forward momentum stops abruptly. Your brain is still moving. It's and it smashes against the inside of your skull. And so, like Mike said, at the line where it's just like, boom.

So you're saying even if you don't get it in the head?

That's my point. Like, all this stuff that we're doing is, you know what it's like?

I never thought about it like that.

You know what it's like? It's like taking off your shoes to go through TSA. It gives an illusion of safety when in reality, this isn't the thing that's the—

Well, the Guardian Caps in practice, like when it comes to like some of the repeated stuff, we don't see the vast majority of the hits that these heads take because in practice they've been colliding. So they've been doing stuff with the Guardian Caps to address it.

The Guardian Cap does not insulate the inside of your head where your brain is smashing into your skull because of a sudden stop in momentum.

The league would point to data that says across the league concussions and head injuries are down, but I am with you there. The repeated stuff— Real Sports did an interesting study on this because it's you know, Lou Gehrig's disease. That's not a football player, it's a baseball player, and he's not repeatedly hitting his head against one thing. And they actually found in his career— famous Iron Man, right?

Yeah.

That he cracked his head and kept playing.

Yeah.

In one famous, uh, instance. So maybe that was the one incident that— unfortunately, there's, there's still a lot of mystery and a lot to be learned about this. But I, I do think we're trying to make something that is inherently unsafe Safer.

That's my point. It's like, at the end of the day, it's an unsafe activity, man. Like, it's— you're never gonna get your power bill to zero no matter how many bathroom lights you turn off.

That's why I don't like— I wish we would just do regular kickoffs because I, like, I know, I know the dangers to it, but we're trying to make something that is very unsafe, the whole thing, which is very unsafe, And it's like, we got— eventually it's not football anymore.

These are— these are— no, but it will be. I think a lot of that stuff is overstated. Some of these things are jarring. They're doing this stuff by degrees. Within 5 years, the NFL helmet is going to look totally different.

How much different could it look?

I think it's—

Everyone's gonna look like Rick Moranis in Spaceballs?

I think right now the Guardian caps look goofy and a huge problem aesthetically. It doesn't look cool. It doesn't look right.

Looks ridiculous.

But the league may one day just say uniform policy, we're gonna have this more aesthetically pleasing Guardian cap, and that's going to be league-wide. And this is what the football helmet looks like right now. And get out of here with saying you're changing football. They used to have leather helmets. The game evolves.

But here's the wild part, Mike. Leather helmets might be the best thing. So when they did that study about CTE and they looked at other high-impact sports, they go, surely this must happen across all sports. And so they looked at rugby. You don't see it as much in hockey, right? These guys in rugby, they don't have any protection. It must be 100 times worse. And what they found was it was so much less, because when you have no protection, you are behaving in a way where it's like, I'm not going to just recklessly throw my body in.

Well, haven't we said NFL players, you want to stop the, the, the helmet-to-helmet hits? Take off the face mask.

Take off the helmet. The, the equipment has, uh, allowed them over the last, you know, 20-some-odd years to use their bodies as weapons.

No one's going headfirst without a face mask.

As human missiles.

I'm telling you, if you get rid of helmets. No one's going headfirst. You just get rid of the helmet, no one's going headfirst. Because everyone's like, wait a second, the reason they do that is because they feel protected, right? I'm delivering the blow, but for me, it's— I'm fine. I'm being absorbed by all this other stuff. If you get rid of a lot of that stuff or tame it down, then it's like, wait a second, I'm not gonna put my skull on the line.

I really do think that often the criticism that you hear from fan bases is that, whoa, what are we playing, flag football? This is a different sport.

Why don't you put tutus on?

The sport has always evolved. Always. There have always been big drastic changes that come to this sport, from aesthetics to rules. They used to not pass forward, you know, and that's, that's football, right? So I, I think the fans will, will stay on the branch. It's, it's one of the biggest things in this country. It's one of our biggest businesses going, and you're not gonna— you love the branding. You're not gonna stop watching football if they do their best to mitigate this.

So that's it. That's the endgame, right? You're not actually going to stop watching, so shut up.

Who's the psycho that's like, man, I love those helmet-to-helmet hits. I'm out. Yeah, yeah. Bring them back and I'll come back.

We did all— we did all love— what was it? You got jacked up.

Jacked up.

Like, that segment was awesome.

I loved it. And then looking back on it, I'm like, that's really messed up to love that. But I didn't know any better.

Mm-hmm.

But oh, Some sad breaking news, uh, Peter Cullen, who was known as the voice of Optimus Prime—

don't you say it—

Eeyore, and the Predator.

He was Eeyore?

Predator?

The Predator?

Yeah, has passed away.

Wow.

Autobots.

Iconic.

I had to also bring up a couple of, uh, the other Americas. We lost a couple people this week. Michael Wright, man. Eddie Kane Jr., like, rest in peace to bro. And Samuel Monroe Jr.

Partner!

Oh, he got stomped out by Trey!

There it is. We lost him today, or yesterday as well.

He died of meningitis!

That's right, man.

That's kind of scary.

That's— not since Sudan have I heard of someone dying of meningitis.

Meningitis?

The, uh, man, that's, that's a lot of, a lot of institutional wealth, right? Of, of cultural value in this one week. Tim Curry, Dolly Parton, Potner from Menace Society, uh, and also Eddie Kane and Optimus Prime.

Did you know that it's actually Eddie King Jr. in the movie?

It's not Kane?

It's not Kane. I didn't know that until like recently.

No, we call him Kang. K-A-N-G. One thing that I learned yesterday with the passing of Tim Curry was one of my favorite animated movies. I had no idea that Tim Curry voiced it. In this movie FernGully.

Yes!

There is this like really strange musical number that, that slaps.

Yes!

But it's like a sexual song about pollution. And you listen to it as, especially as a little kid, like, this is a little scary. This is sensual. What is happening right now? Tim Curry did that. And it's an incredible vocal performance. I had no idea that was Tim Curry.

Where is the microfilm? You don't know that reference.

I don't.

Loaded Weapon 1, man.

There you go, National Lampoon's.

Whatever, man, I'll lose no sleep.

Okay. So you're not a movie guy, that's why you don't—

I'm a great movie guy.

Not a movie guy.

The meningitis came from MRSA.

Oh. Dude, MRSA is the silent killer. It is awful and almost always preventable. That's the crazy thing about MRSA. How do you get MRSA? From an unclean environment when you're being medically treated.

Yeah, you have— or football players get it, 'cause like you have an open wound and you're on the ground, and it's all dirty.

No, but like, so Grant Hill got MRSA from the training table in Orlando. He almost died off that. So it's, it's literally almost 100% preventable. It's just like, clean.

So he got pneumonia from MRSA that turned into meningitis, and at 52, our boy is dead.

Oh, that sucks.

By the way, I think his name was Kane, right? Not Trey. Kane. Wasn't Kane the main character in Menace?

Yeah, Trey was in Don't Be a Menace.

Yeah. Oh, really?

Ashtray.

Yeah.

Peter Cullen was also the first voice of KARR in Knight Rider.

I saw Don't Be a Menace so many times when it came out.

I can recite it, man.

Because back then I had, uh, statute of limitations is over, so I can admit this. I had a— we had a scrambler in, in my house, all right? We did the scrambler.

We got him. So let's come in right now, like, get all the channels.

It's, you know, it's like 5 or 6 pay-per-view channels. There was 2 of the, you know, the sex channels. There was— do you remember what they were?

Uh, Spice.

Spice.

Spice and then Hustler.

And I think Adam and Eve. Yeah, Spice and Adam and Eve.

You think Adam and Eve?

Well, maybe I was just a Spice guy.

Maybe you were dead certain it was Adam and Eve.

So we had all the pay-per-view channels, but each pay-per-view channel, it was just the one movie was played over and over again all day long. Yeah, so when Don't Be a Menace was you know, having its run, it was on all day long on one of the channels. Movie's very rewatchable.

And Sam Monroe, one of the only guys who played in Menace and the spoof of Don't Be a Menace.

One of the rare times in movie history where someone was in the original movie and then played pretty much the same role in the spoof. Also, Bill Duke, also same thing, right? Yeah, Bill Duke in the car was like You know?

Oh yeah, and in Don't Be a Menace, didn't when they stomp him out, he was like flat?

Yeah.

That's a good movie.

It was a great movie. He did a good job, man. It's sad to have him pass. 52, man, that's only a few years older than me, man. That's crazy just to think of.

Meningitis.

Yeah, that's a tough one.

Sheesh. Down, Le Batard!

I mean, Trotten Madonna out there. I don't know what the hell she was doing. And then, uh, what's this boy band, KPS? KBS? What's their name? I have no idea who that is.

This is BTS.

Jonathan Saslow!

Isn't this the big—

this is the biggest band in the world!

That's right.

Get out of here! They're bigger than Pearl Jam!

This is the Dan Le Batard Show!

Did you see— so college football is starting this weekend, but you got full week 1 stuff next weekend. Oh, it's so good. But—

Is there week 0? No week 0 this year?

I mean, you can call it week 0.

Apparently that branding is dwindling, but there's some interesting Yeah. Virginia made it to the ACC championship game last year. They're playing NC State.

They lost to champs Duke.

That's good. Miami's opponent next week plays Hawaii this week, Stanford. That's not, it's not a great slate, but it's a slate and it's better than not having one.

I'm going to Georgia Tech-Stanford, by the way.

It's my angle. 2 great ACC rivals.

Oh my God.

That screams Atlantic Coast Conference football.

Like you're literally on the other coast. Like, like, I was already— SMU, I was already like, what are we doing here?

I love this about the ACC. I like the trips out to the, the West Coast. I did the, the Berkeley one. I'm bummed because it— I'm not— I made the decision not to go to this one. And did you see the halftime performer?

Who?

E-40. Oh wow, E-40 in the Bay Area.

They're stepping up now, these college programs with the halftime acts. Used to be like, here comes the marching band.

Jesus Christ headdress, so shake 'em.

Go slide the whip.

Have you seen the videos of E-40 like bringing down the house at a SeaWorld? Dude, look up the videos.

The SeaWorld Summer Concert Series, man, they landed on something. At least last summer, I remember it was act after act after act. I was like, damn, who's booking for him?

But that's not the halftime performance that I want to talk to you about, Sazh. You see the news that Soundgarden is performing at an NFL halftime? Not just any NFL halftime, the reigning champs. Soundgarden is performing at the Seahawks Week 1 home opener.

All right, but there's no Soundgarden. Like, Chris Cornell, you know, he's, he's not— he, he passed.

All right, let me sweeten the pot. You know about that Mike McCready?

Of course.

What does he do?

He plays lead guitar for Pearl Jam.

Well, he's playing with Soundgarden. I like that. But you're probably saying, well, it's not Soundgarden because, you know, the vocals. That's, that's what I think.

Well, they essentially have Pearl Jam's drummer, right? Matt Cameron, who left Pearl Jam, I imagine is going to play drums for Soundgarden here, right?

Yeah. Do you know what they're gonna do for the vocals?

No.

Taylor Momsen.

Who is that?

She sings for the Pretty Reckless, but you're a movie guy, right?

Yeah, everyone knows that.

No, he's not.

The little girl in Jim Carrey's How the Grinch Stole Christmas.

Really?

That's Taylor Momsen.

Awesome.

That was like 20-some-odd years ago, right?

Yeah, but she— when you think about it, that's a very difficult vocal, uh, ability to, to replicate.

She's good?

Yeah, yeah, like you gotta go across genders to replicate that.

So she's gonna sing Soundgarden songs?

Yeah, well, that's kind of cool. At least a handful.

All right, that's cool, but it's kind of like a Soundgarden cover band. I mean, you have several members who are not in Soundgarden.

I, you know, it's tough, it's tough, especially when—

I'm into it, play Soundgarden songs, like I'm into it. You know, I love Soundgarden.

I'm with it, and that, that's a good vocal comp, no doubt. But I, I— not no doubt, that's a different band. But I, I like it when there's bands that I love that just keep on doing it. I, I understand, like, you can't do it with the Heartbreakers, right? That's pretty much one guy. But I would love to— if the Heartbreakers decided to play another show, I'd go see them and, and enjoy the opportunity to watch someone else Uh, take a crack at it.

Unbelievable of that, you know, that foursome essentially that made it huge out of Seattle in the early '90s grunge era. Pearl Jam, the only one that still has their vocalist. You know, Soundgarden lost Chris Cornell, Nirvana lost Kurt Cobain, Alice in Chains lost Layne Staley. Hell, at this point, Alice in Chains— I, I can never remember the lead singer's name.

Alice.

the vocalist that they have now, the vocalist they have now, we can't say the new vocalist anymore. He's been there a lot longer than Layne Staley was.

Jerry, right?

No, Jerry Cantrell's guitar. Yeah, but I don't know the, the vocalist.

I'm sorry, I've seen Jerry play songs and do vocals.

Oh, he had a solo album.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I think that this is a pretty interesting thing, and Taylor Momsen's, uh, put out, uh, some photos on her IG from a studio that leads me to believe that Maybe this is a permanent thing and you get the opportunity to see Soundgarden.

That would be awesome if it were.

Yeah, I would love to see Soundgarden again. I saw Soundgarden at Lollapalooza with Chris Cornell when they reunited, and I'm so happy I got to do it because then Chris Cornell sadly took his own life, uh, very soon after that. But I'm a huge Soundgarden guy.

I saw them their last tour. They toured with Nine Inch Nails, so I got to see, you know, the original Soundgarden.

Zazz, you know about that spoon, man?

Hell yeah.

SCP is still doing out— doing their thing. Chester from Linkin Park was actually Scott Weiland's replacement for a little while. I think there are cool ways to spin it into a win and play to your fans.

So college football, you're gonna get a little bit of a taste of it this weekend. Next weekend you got the full slate. If you're watching a game on ESPN, it's gonna look a little different. And you may be saying, wow, I wonder what's different here. What's different about you? You know, someone walked into the room, hey, something's different about you. Something's different. You look different. I do look different.

Is that a new hat?

Um, fully clean-shaven, actually. I shaved yesterday with a razor.

A straight razor?

Straight razor for the first time in a long time.

Why? Why'd you use a straight razor?

Uh, good question. Without spoiling, without giving details, I had to get paint off my face, alright? And it was like staining my— the hair on my face, so I had to go— I had to fully shave.

But I'm saying, like, why wouldn't you get like just like the regular safety razor that people use? Like Gillette, the best razor.

That's what I used.

Oh, you said straight razor. Straight razor's the one—

You made it seem like you were going to Fleet Street.

Yeah.

That's not a straight razor.

Oh, like when I'm sitting in the barbershop and I'm hoping he doesn't shave my throat?

Don't try my beard.

No, no, no. The disposable razor.

Shave and a haircut.

I've never had that before.

Feel you, Joanna.

I've never had that before, the straight razor, where someone shaves you.

You've never had that? The barber never?

No, I feel like I would like that.

Yeah, there's definitely a vulnerability.

Yeah, that's the part I don't like.

It's overrated.

How do I know he's not— how do I know someone didn't give him some money to slit my throat?

Well, I don't know. Depends. Have you run afoul of the Five Families?

I have enemies.

He had a scrambler.

The Five Families, yeah.

I have enemies.

You're gonna steal cable under my watch and not give me a little tip?

days of illegal cable. You had the main pay-per-view feed and then the channel that was one movie all day. Yep. You learn to love it. And that's how I have like such an affinity for Virtuosity.

Oh, Denzel.

Oh, that one day where it was Species. Oh, are you kidding?

You know about Natasha Henstridge?

Come on now, Species, man.

Come on now. So see, I, I had to, I had to use an actual razor yesterday. Uh, first time in a long time.

Okay.

What was I saying?

How'd it feel?

Uh, it always feels good.

Yeah?

Yeah.

Did you look in the mirror after and go, ah, like they do in the commercials?

Yeah, do it right now.

You gotta touch it.

Now, Zazz, you had a big interview that was falling in line with— Don't give away too much.

Did you—

did you have— I just want to know, did you have to have worlds collide? No, no, I was able to— I, I was able to clean myself enough that the person I was speaking to did not Like, I didn't look like a fool. So yeah, it's all good.

Is this the Klay Thompson interview or is it another interview?

Yo, I'm not gonna expose anymore, okay?

Wait, you just told us yesterday that you—

No, it was not Klay Thompson.

Okay.

No, it's not Klay Thompson. Uh, anyway, what I was saying was, if you're watching the college football on ESPN this year—

Yeah, that's where we were.

It's gonna look a little bit different, and that's because they have gotten rid of the bottom line ticker.

Hell yeah. It was a great decision. Too much clutter on the screen, and I legitimately cannot remember the last time the bottom line informed me of a score because it's usually there for people that are, you know, chasing the action. There's apps for that. There's never been one time where I'm like, what's the score? I gotta wait for it to pop back up on the bottom line. If I want to see the score, I pull out my computer that's living in my pocket and I check the score. So make the games look better. I'm good with it.

This is my theory on what the ticker exists for, and maybe I'm in a minority here, but It's because when I'm watching this game and sometimes it'll say Oklahoma 45, Texas 7, I'm like, well, that game's over. And then a little bit later you see Oklahoma 45, Texas 42. What happened? Change the channel! That's what the ticker's for.

That's— see, that's the part that, that I, I understand this is a polarizing move. The reaction has not been all of what Mike said where it's like, hey, I don't— if I want a scoring update, I'll pull out my phone, I'll look for a scoring update. But you're doing that where, you know, just by happenstance. It's like, yeah, let me check the scores when the There's a lot of games going on. The ticker is telling you there is a scoring change. It's happening right now.

Yeah, but the frustration with that is that they would flash yellow on the ticker. Yeah, and so every single time you think there's a flag, you're watching a football game and you see that flash of yellow and you're like, what, what just happened? What did I miss? Instead, it's like random, you know, max score in the middle of the game. And if you're not someone who is following that particular game and you don't care and you just want to see the game that you're watching, you're in real trouble. So I'd rather just check on the scores and be able to find out that way than have it just flash across my screen and think something's going on in my game.

I did like the evolution of the ticker where it would tell you like, uh, this is the, the situation in this game too, like they're driving. And but I'm willing to give this a try. I know a lot of people are like, ah, what am I gonna do with myself there? Let's Let's try to clean it up a little bit.

Well, so are they going to replace it with something else where if there is a scoring update, will it flash on the screen and then go away?

Maybe so. But to latch on to what Jeremy was saying, I hate the fact that, look, Klay Thompson has been acquired by the Miami Heat at 1 a.m., 2 p.m., breaking news. I'm like, oh, what's happening? Klay Thompson to the Heat.

Okay. That does happen a lot.

Exactly. I saw it.

It sounds like you guys are complaining about how they do the ticker, not necessarily the presence of the ticker itself.

Yeah, they have a lot of problems, but let's pour one out because the ticker, remember, it was exclusive to the Deuce. And there were plenty of times where I'd be switching from the box locally and MTV, and I'd want to see what was happening in the AL Central, and I would sit in front of that bottom line for a good 7 to 10 minutes. Waiting for the AL score bug.

Yeah, can somebody get these tickers out of here?

You ever been waiting for that score and then they go to commercial and they come back past the score?

Yes, because that used to be the case with the Deuce, that when it went to commercial you'd also lose the bottom line, and it was a huge innovation that the ticker remained on the Deuce.

You know what else?

The scratch logo. That's, that's a proper ESPN2. The one where they would do this during the daytime.

Yeah!

Little workout.

Oh yeah, the morning. Yeah, you get the little morning workout. Always like in Hawaii, right? Or on a cliff by the beach.

I believe Chris Fowler married one of those.

Now they're not getting rid of it altogether, okay? This is, at least for now, this is for college football games that the ticker is not going to be up there. But what always would make me crazy, I'm a big record the game watch-it-later guy. And let's say it's the Heat and the Panthers who are both playing at the same time. I'll record them both if I'm not home. I will watch one and then I will watch the other so I could devote my full attention to it. But let's say, you know, if the Heat are— it's a national TV game and the Heat are on ESPN, am I going to avoid looking down at the ticker when the NHL scores flash across the screen? And then I would have it spoiled for me. I would hate that.

Yeah, don't, don't look down.

That's so hard. That's so hard. You're telling yourself, don't look at the ticker, don't look at the ticker, and then you look at the ticker and the Panthers score is right there and you catch it the exact wrong time.

The way you say ticker is suspiciously close to a Tom Cruise movie that's coming out.

What's that movie called? It's called Digler, right, Mike? Is that what it's called?

It's called Digger.

Yeah.

Oh boy.

What are some other— what are some other on-screen graphics during sports? That, like, just worthless. You can get rid of that.

The shot clock on the floor.

That's the one I'm gonna say too!

I hate that.

I hate that!

Get it out of here. I don't need that.

I've never been watching the game like, oh nice, I'm so glad the shot clock is on the free throw line because I can't look down an inch and look at the shot clock on the actual score bug.

Here's another one for you. ESPN does this. When a guy shoots a 3, Where do you shoot it? 27 feet?

That's a good one too!

Get out of here. I can eyeball it.

I can see it's far!

It's far, exactly.

I don't need to know how many inches.

Good innovations. Hockey, it's tough sometimes with the puck. I love the boards. You like the glow puck? No, no, the glow puck was pretty good in its day. There is a good argument to be— there's a reason why the glow puck exists still in video games.

I mean, behind the boards, you know, come on.

It's tough, but I love— now when there's a I don't know if it's a goal or not, I look to the boards because the graphics go up immediately.

Oh, that's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is good. That's always weird. It's amazing how they do that with the hockey games where those ads that are on the board, those are superimposed. Those are not actually there. Like, I'll be watching a Panther road game, like when they first started doing this, be watching a Panther road game, they have ads for our local attorneys?

Palacio de los Fugos?

In that building? That's amazing! No, no, those are superimposed. Incredible technology.

Yeah, and also not just incredible technology that's superimposed, that when you're in the building, they actually have ads.

Oh yeah, completely.

It's not like they're not blue squares, right? Everyone's kind of superimposing on— they actually have their own ads.

Yeah, amazing.

They have graphic packages that they pretend is part of the stadium. There's like overhanging the players, like they're walking under the graphics. Oh, we need to get rid of that.

Yeah, also, I know, I know what you're saying, and it looks weird.

Yeah, also NFL, if this yellow line is not the actual first down, take it off. I don't want to see it. Oh, but we haven't got past that.

Oh, but in general, we, we love the yellow line. Well, it's one of the all-time great innovations.

No, we love that until the Chiefs beat the Bills.

You know what I don't need? You know what I don't need during the NFL games?

What's that?

I don't need when they're in the red zone, them, them making it red.

Making the field red.

Yeah, I don't need that. I know, I know, I know what the 20-yard line is. Like, it doesn't mean anything. The red, like, it doesn't mean anything. I don't need that. But the shot clock being on the court—

Irrelevant.

So irrelevant.

Takes away— it's just distracting. It's just too much stuff on the screen.

Yeah, yeah.

What's next? Are we gonna have a little player name underneath each guy like it's a video game?

They do that.

Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't mind that for hockey.

The, uh, I think they, they toy with that a lot in hockey.

On power plays, sometimes they do that.

Yeah, and I love that. But Amazon's like Thursday night broadcast, they have the alternate analytics broadcast where it gives you all that information. And I have it, I sync it up on the second TV because there's a lot of helpful information there.

Interesting.

Dan Le Batard!

I don't think it's strange for me, but like—

Mike Ryan! Oh boy.

This is the Dan Le Batard Show!

Guys, I watched Hard Knocks again this week. This is an episode—

Did they talk about the halftime performance?

No, they didn't.

Well, you know, it's on delay, so maybe.

Maybe next time. Also, Adam Ray is supposed to be on the next episode, I think. He's gonna be roasting them. I'm looking forward to that. But overall, wholly forgettable episode. Nothing really happened. But There was one scene where the GM, Schneider, that's his name, right?

Yeah.

He's walking around and asking people, he's like, if I had a— would you say I have a plethora of this? And he's asking players, he's asking coaches, he's like, even though someone go, come on, man, this is our era. You don't know where that's from? And the guy's like, no. So if I start with a plethora, does anyone know what I'm talking about? Saying that word in that way?

No.

No, no from Zazz. Juju?

No for me, Doc.

Roy?

No, sir.

Mike?

No.

Now you already said no.

I already know you.

Yeah, okay, what if I said, my little buttercup has the sweetest— Ismail? Now does anyone get the reference?

No for me, Doc.

No, even less so now.

Wow. No.

No.

What if I said—

Are you gonna talk about anything anybody knows about?

Yeah, it's a movie called The Three Amigos, and nobody got it on the show either. And I'm like, man, who, who, who?

The one with, uh, Donald Duck.

Steve Martin also.

There you go. So I was just like, I was like, I was sitting there watching the dude go through this agony. I'm like, Three Amigos, I guess it's Three Amigos, he's doing Three Amigos. And everyone's like Nah, nah, I don't know. He's like, come on. He's like, you know, the 3 guys, they're cowboys, they're actors.

Gotta be completely honest with you, only seen bits and pieces of it when I was way younger.

Really?

Yeah, I haven't seen The Three Amigos start to finish. Yeah, while knowing what was going on, nah.

Yeah, they had— only thing I remember is they got the best villain name in that movie, El Guapo.

I know about the, uh, the, the little Macarena dance they do. Should I watch it? I'll watch it if it comes in, like, Ameens beside himself.

I'm not sure it's in the regular rotation these days on cable.

Yeah.

Ameens is spinning out. Is it really funny?

For 1985.

Really funny for 1985 is really different.

It was 40 years ago this movie came out.

I'm also not a huge Steve Martin guy.

What?

Yeah, I'm not a huge Steve Martin guy.

I'm not a huge Chevy Chase guy.

I'm definitely not. That makes sense.

Definitely not.

Let me tell you something. Chevy Chase, huge piece of shit. Chevy Chase, that one was funny in his day though, man.

I do like Vegas Vacation.

You ever seen the movie, uh, Saturday Nights where they're— it's about the, the first episode of Saturday Night Live?

Yeah.

They did a good job of portraying Chevy Chase as being an asshole.

Did you watch the Chevy Chase documentary?

No, but I know he's very— like, it made him look terrible.

It's crazy because it's like I think he thought, oh, this will clear everything up. And it's like he comes off as an even bigger asshole than before I watched it. Look, he— look, there's very, very unlikable person, Juju. But man, he had that run in the '80s, boy.

Fletch, he was enormous.

Three Amigos, all the Vegas, all the, uh, National Lampoon's movies, like Caddyshack, man. Caddyshack. Like, he was out here gunning them down. His— he's funny.

Yep.

Oh, excuse me, exhibits the behavior of a piece of shit.

And then he had his talk show and, uh, nothing but trouble, and then everything went down. Yeah, yeah, until Community.

Until Community. And then—

No, no, no, then he burnt down. There was one little Vegas vacation out there that sparked back up a little bit. Mr. Papa Giorgio.

So Jeremy, I did not expect you to get that reference. But there was another reference that you didn't get that happened recently.

Yeah, literally this morning I was like, oh, this is such a stupid thing to say, and fade into Bolivian. And I, I had no idea. And you immediately were like, of course you don't get that reference.

That's— it's— I thought this is one of the most famous references before. If you know it, say yes, I know it. Don't say what it is. Zaz, do you know it?

No.

Juju?

No, sir.

Trista?

Nope.

Mike. Roy.

Yes.

Guys, this is Mike Tyson, guys.

No way.

I'm gonna fade into Bolivia.

Oh, I thought you said oblivion. I thought you said oblivion. If you said Bolivia—

No, Bolivian.

Bolivian.

I didn't hear that you said Bolivian.

I said Bolivian.

All we do on this show is talk into these things and listen with these things. That's all we do.

I thought you literally just said fade into oblivion.

Fade into Bolivia.

Bolivian.

No, I would have absolutely known that was Mike Tyson.

Okay, so let's ask again. Hey, what it was is it was fade into Bolivian, and I have no idea what that is.

That's—

you get that reference?

Tyson? Yeah.

I said yes or no. Don't say the name of the reference. Just say yes or no.

Yes.

Let's do it again.

All right, so, uh, the reference that, that I didn't understand was I said fade into Bolivian. I thought that was really stupid.

Yes, Mike Tyson.

Ah, you said it again. Someone say yes or no.

One more time. One more time. I mean, I'll set you up. So, uh, this morning we were talking and I saw a tweet and I was like, this is really stupid. This guy just said fade into Bolivian. And I didn't know what it meant.

I got that.

Oh, you got that reference?

Yeah.

Okay. Juju, you got that reference?

Yeah, it's Mike Tyson.

Ah, come on!

I don't know.

That's all I say, yes or no!

There it is, the Mike Tyson Bolivian bit.

Thank you.

There it is. Really good stuff.

There you go.

It's, it's, it's harder and harder. This is, this is the part, this is the part about getting old they don't tell you about. It's harder and harder to see that no one gets your reference points. Like that The world is not being viewed. This is what Greg Cody's life must be like every single day.

Yeah. The other day I was like, you ever see a grown man naked? And when they don't get that, that one caused an awkward exchange.

Nobody got that one.

There was an instance where, like, someone had the same cadence. I'm like, you ever see a grown man naked? And you come off like such a creep if they don't get that reference.

Speaking of Greg Cody, do we know if he watched AEW last night? Do we have it?

I feel pretty confidently that he did not.

Isn't Wednesday bowling night?

Bowling night, yeah, yeah.

And also Ted Lasso night, where he has to watch it at a certain time.

He has to watch it at 8 PM.

Makes a lot of sense.

On a streamer, he— but he still longs for the day where the family would gather around in prime time.

But it didn't even come out yesterday.

Yeah, it comes out Wednesdays.

Yeah, does it come out Wednesdays?

Yeah, I watched last night.

Yeah.

All right, there you go. Jeremy had that thing rocking.