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Our pal, of course, is David Samson. Nothing personal with David Samson. You can catch every morning. Joining us now. Good to see you, David. How are you? Hello.

Look at you in the chair.

That's why I'm not wearing my hat, David, because when I'm sitting on the throne, this is my look. I have a different look no matter what I'm doing. This is my look when I'm in the main chair.

I think you It should be you no matter what chair you're in. Thanks, man. There you go.

You should have a crown.

That's what I'm talking. Okay, all right. It's taking a little bit far, but that's your opinion.

Yeah, you earned it. You need more makeup. It's very shiny.

Well, there's only so much we can do. All right. There's only so much that we can do. David, I want to start here by getting your thoughts. Over the weekend, we saw Pat Reilly was the center of attention in Los Angeles. They honored Pat, and then the Lakers got smoked by the Boston Celtics. That Laker team is not any good. I got news for you. And Reilly got the statue. Do you think it's weird, David, for Pat Reilly to be all gung-ho about the Lakers while he was still the sitting President for the Miami Heat? Is that strange at all?

Yeah, it is. I was trying to think of the last time that an active player or an active coach or an active executive got honored with a statue while active with somebody else. And I couldn't come up I don't know if you guys can, but that's a first for me. I give credit to Mickey Harrison and nick Harrison because I would have been a hard no. Just wait. Wait your turn. We want to be the first ones to do a statue. We did a court. We did a bunch of stuff that was cool, no question, in Miami. But no, he's not a Laker. He's not even known by most people for Showtime Lakers. For me, he's the nick coach. For most of the world, he's the heat guy. So I found it to be just ill-timed. On the other hand, when you're older, you don't want to wait too long because you'd hate to not be alive for it. So I was in for that. So I was very mixed.

He's primarily known as the Showtime Lakers guy, right? I would disagree with that.

I would concede that. And it really didn't happen in my lifetime. But as the headman there, he won, what, three titles? Four. Well, he was a part of a staff for one of them, but he was- Right.

82, 85, 87, 88. He was the coach.

Yeah. I mean, he is Showtime. I mean, he trademarked three compete.

Yeah. Mike, I think that if you ask the majority of people your age, they would associate him with the heat. That's a different conversation. He's been with the heat three times.

And those are people that don't know their history.

Well, listen, people don't remember him as the Nix. He was the most important Knicks coach next to Red Hulsman in my life. Not even close, not even a close second. And when he brought that team to the finals in 94. And so for me, I love him as a Knick. I hated the trade. When he went to Miami, that was maybe the beginning of, and I wasn't in sports at the time. Maybe. But him going to Miami is what made me the type of executive I was, the cold-hearted, I don't care, I have no loyalty, forget all of it, because him leaving hurt that much.

Wait, David, would you fax in your resignation if you got your dream job somewhere else?

You don't do that. In my line of work, it's not even a fax. It's just a see you later, you leave everything at your desk.

That's what Riley did.

Security will just let you out.

That's what Reilly did, allegedly, The heat were courting him. When he left, he faxed his resignation to New York. That's why everyone called him Pat the Rat, because he didn't have the boss to just walk into whoever was the owner's office and say, Look, I'm out of here. I got a better deal somewhere else.

They really courted him, didn't they?

Literally. Well, it ended badly. I mean, as you remember back in New York, we're talking a long time ago, but there was a power struggle, and it ended badly. When he came to the heat, don't forget the deal. It was unheard The list of demands are amazing. Oh, my God. It's one of the great lists of all time. Mickey Harrison was just having watched the Knicks all those years in the Lakers. It was like, Sure. What else? Ownership? No problem. Team President? Hell, yeah. Limo back and forth to the game? We'll do that. Clothing allowance? Definitely. Springsteen tickets? Thumbs up. It was definitely problematic for me as a Knick guy.

It was buy my homes from me, my LA and my New Dork homes and give me the money. It was use of limo to and from the game, 20% ownership stake. Mickey Arison, he had just taken over the team recently from his father. He wasn't going to say no. He had to make his huge splash. Like, Reilly got everything he wants. Reilly owns 20% of the heat. I don't know if it's that much, but he has an ownership stake. No. He has an ownership stake.

I'm going to go low. I'm going to take the under on that. But that said, it made me think about what nick Arison, who is now, for all intents and purposes, running the team, what will he do? Does he have a big splash like that coming in the next iteration of the heat to make his mark on the team the way Mickey did on that team? Because when there's a father-son situation, very often the son wants to outshine the father, wants to do something the father didn't do. Mickey Arison has quite a long shadow.

Thirty years later, though, I don't think Mickey Arison regrets everything he gave Riley. I think Riley has earned it. In terms of the statue thing, I think this makes the heat look bad and not for the reason that everybody thinks. I don't think it makes him look bad that Riley went to LA for the statue thing. I think it makes the heat look bad because the Lakers outstatued the heat. They should have had a statue for Reilly while he's living to appreciate it in Miami, not his name on a court. That's low level. That's not low level.

You can only give one court.

Greg's right. I can have seven statues outside my region. Do you call it Pat Reilly Court ever?

In terms of eternal honoring someone, honoring a legend.

You can only give away one court name.

You can do multiple statues.

You can do statues. Statues are higher ranked than courts. Like you said, nobody calls it the Pat Reilly Court. I do. Nobody.

I got to be honest, I'm on the side of the court being better. There's only one. Really? Your name is literally on the television all the time, every single game. We romanticize these stats. Everybody is going to statue now, all right? Too many. The name on the court, I think Chris is right. There are a lot of statues outside whatever Staples Center is called now, Crypto. A court, you could only have one name on it.

I think the court- It's a consolation prize.

Thank you. Yes.

Bingo. We already named the arena. We have no other soil left to name after you. Oh, let's name something inside the arena, an item inside. What's next? Then the next coach gets the chair named after him. What are we just going to name inanimate objects within the arena after people now that the court has been claimed?

I kept wondering whether Dwyane Wade- The Spolstra scoreboard. Do you think Dwyane Wade looked at the Pat Reilly statue and said, Wow, that looks way more like Pat than mine looks like me. Oh, hell, yes. He's got to be thinking that, right? Yes.

It's a good statue.

David Samson, if you could have anything named after you to honor you in one city, what would it You could have a trophy, you could have an arena.

A bridge.

That's a great answer. Is it?

That's a fantastic answer. The triburals now are the RFK Bridge. An airport, it would be second, but a bridge would be first. You got to get over the bridge to get into Manhattan.

Maybe the number one answer. Well done, David Samson.

You want to go stadium? Having a stadium named after you.

If they turned Loan Depot into David Samson Park, come on.

No, but nobody goes. It's negatively associated. You need the bridge. What about a causeway? I also wouldn't mind if my family got a piece of the tolls.

Wow. Negotiate that.

David, you think it made the heat look bad because they did it before the heat. Pat said he's not retiring. He's never going away. He's always going to have this job, and the heat must think, Well, we're not going to make a statue while you're still, I guess, alive.

Why? What? They did Dwyane Wade while Dwyane's alive.

No, but he's not playing. And Reilly said he's never going to retire, so he's always going to be working for team.

To be honored by a team, you have to be no longer with the team.

Maybe that's their stance.

Yeah, maybe. That was the Lakers stance, apparently.

It's a bad one. Bad one. David, I'm curious if you agree. I think in terms of honoring an all-time great executive, coach, or player, and this applies to Halls of Fame, I think you should honor them during their career, certainly while they're alive, but also during their career. If you have Shohe O'Tani all of a sudden, announces he's retiring. Put them in the Hall of Fame now. Have active Hall of Famers. If their level is so distinguished that their first ballot, automatic, why not honor them during their career, toward the end of it?

Do you know that there's only one baseball player who didn't have to wait the five years to get into the Hall of Fame? It was Roberto Clemente, who was put into the Hall of Fame. He had to die. But a year after his plane career, when he died a plane crash with 3,000 hits exactly, he was elected into the Hall of Fame. Greg, this is a terrible question. Were you a voter back then?

I was not for Roberto. No, I was not. Sorry. No. But I would have voted him in. Neither did I vote for Babe Ruth, by the way. I was not around that.

Can we ask Greg at the end of the show if he would have voted him in? See if he remembers what his answer was. I'll nail it. We'll circle back to that. David, this reminds me, you didn't I like that Pat Reilly, he's still currently the President of the Heat. He's being honored statue at the Lakers. It reminds me what was clearly a bit of an ominous sign back in 2014 when LeBron still played for the Heat During the season, he flew to Cleveland to be at the ceremony for Zdrunas O'Gauskis's Jersey being sent up to the rafters. Lebron was there to honor Zdrunas on another team while LeBron played for the Heat. You remember that?

Yeah, I do. We would have given permission to players. If it's an off day, I would not have let a player miss a game. The thing about baseball is there's no off days, rarely at all. And certainly to have an off day that's coincidental to a Jersey retirement for a different player. I didn't like when our guys went to graduations for kids. But I would say that missing a game, no. Missing a practice in the NBA In off day in baseball, you don't do much. Maybe you do infield or optional BP. But in the NBA, you're practicing. In the NFL, you're installing a game plan. So I don't know that I would allow a player to miss something that was meaningful toward a game. But in and of itself, that doesn't bother me. You're honoring your teammate, even though you're not his teammate anymore. It's just a matter of what your responsibilities are outside of that.

Where do you come down on the NHL players now trying to return or maybe not returning and taking a couple of few games off after- Outrageous. Outrageous to you because a lot of people in this room and outside this room would say, Listen, it was for the glory of the US of A. That trumps anything for a club sport. Mike Ryan said, I'm used to that. That's how it goes in soccer. I remind him that we're not talking about soccer here.

Right. We're talking about hack- It's a reminder. If you're the Panthers and you have to go 19: 06, and you walk into the owner's office and say, Man, I'm tired. I'm coming back from Milan, and I had to go to Washington. I had to go to 11. I need a blow. I need a couple of games. All right, now we're down to 23 games, and we have to go 19 and 4. So I'm just not... That's unacceptable to me. I love... I'm patriotic. I like the gold medal. I think it was amazing. But if you had to give me a choice between the Panthers winning the Stanley Cup and the USA winning the gold medal, to me, I'm sorry to tell you, it's not even close. I want the Stanley Cup.

And what Really, what your point is, is that it involves the red, white, and blue. What if you're the Pittsburgh Penguins and Sydney Crosby says, I can't go right now because I was trying to bring a gold medal to Canada. Now you've lost the Patriot angle on that. Now, should you be steamed, not just as an owner of the team, but as a fan?

Yeah, that's why I don't want to say it's about what flag you have, because it's not about patriotism, because Sydney Crosby feels about Canada the way Kachuk does about US. It's totally great. I think K'Chuck cares more.

How are you measuring that?

K'chuck has said as much. Respectfully, I understand what you're saying. It's obvious we're not talking about soccer here, but we are. In terms of country reigning over club. That's how these hockey players feel about it. Now, it's not the same for every sport. Basketball, I imagine they have a loyalty to their NBA teams.

Yeah, but you know soccer operates differently with the Champions League and club. It's much more- I think it's actually a perfect comparison.

It's a perfect comparison because the last two years has happened in the middle of the hockey season, much like soccer has to manipulate their calendars around the FIFA calendar with all these friendlies. In that sport, just like in soccer, they care more about country than club. We just haven't been confronted with that because the NHL players haven't been allowed to play for so long.

Mike, you know I have one rule to live by, right?

Don't place parlays on multiple long shots. Don't say a game is one when it hasn't hit triple zero.

Always drink your Jägermeister ice cold.

That's the rule. Everything else is merely a suggestion. Everything else? Everything else.

Wearing clean underwear every day?

Well, that's just a personal decision.

Brushing your teeth?

Obviously smart, but not a rule.

Never PP on an electric fence.

Okay, maybe there are two rules, but the one that is 100% that I insist on completely, Jägermeister must be drank ice cold. Or don't drink it at all. Damn, that's cold.

Exactly. You're finally starting to get it.

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I think soccer and hockey are a perfect analogy in this discussion. And if it applies to Leo Messi the same way, he should prioritize the World Cup, in my opinion. And if he has to miss one or two of 34 MLS regular season games to get himself ready the way he feels like needs to for the World Cup, I'm patting him on the back saying, Leo, you do whatever you have to do.

Go do it. Are you writing the checks, Greg?

I am not.

So the math to me doesn't work because you're not going to refund 187 second or $280, or $141 of your salary, are you? No. You have a job to do. No, but it's baked into- It's baked in a signing messy.

It's baked in to signing Messi. It's baked in to signing Messi that he's going to be dependent on by his country. Different. And you take that. You understand that.

Different is You're right, though. But Samson is right. It's different than saying, I pay Connor McDavid millions of dollars to play. Now I'm supposed to sign off on him playing for Canada being more important than the sport that I'm paying.

It's implied. It's the risk that you take when you sign these all-world, all-elite athletes to these major contracts. Is there going to be in demand for their countries, and they're going to prioritize that. You need to understand where to fall in line.

Jeremy, if you were asked to go work for the heat while you were supposed to be here doing this show, what would you Wow, now we're doing the good questions.

Yeah, that's right. No, it's the right question because it's where's your number one priority? This happens in contracts all the time. It happens, Jeremy knows, in broadcast deals where certain sports have priority over other sports. We were always behind the heat. If there were a conflict with the heat on Fox Sports Florida, which has evolved into other names and now bankrupt, it would be the heat would have priority. And we would know that. Base for their national deal, they know when they were going to be on ESPN 2 instead of ESPN. It's in the contract. I'm not sure the devils when they signed... Oh, God, I'm having a moment. Mike Hughes? I can't believe.

Jack Hughes?

When they signed Hughes to a contract that they had, Okay, you're going to be an Olympian. You're going to score the golden goal. Take a couple of days, couple of games. We're fine.

Wait, that network is bankrupt?

I got Jack Hughes right. I pulled that one out of my ass just from being at 11 last night. Look at Hockey. Or someone else's ass.

Look at that nice- Did he get new teeth yet?

No, not at 11, from what I could see.

How about that nice Jewish boy, David, who scores the game-winning goal for the gold medal for the United States? That's forever. Come on now, David.

Something to celebrate. I was very happy for him, but I was thinking to myself, would I trade a tooth for a gold medal? They're both permanent. You get to keep the gold medal forever unless you have to sell it because you're in dire straits. But man, losing an adult No permanent tooth. That is not nothing.

By the way, seeing him up close, tiny guy. They're all tiny. Yeah, of course. He's a tiny guy. I thought a hockey guy would be a big, strong guy. No, it's all pads and skates.

And he's a baby. He looks like he's 17.

David Samson wouldn't even give a tooth and you would... A visible lack of a front tooth for the rest of your life in exchange for a gold medal. That's an interesting... I would go even bigger. Would you give a digit of your choosing? From one of your two of your hands, would you give a pinkie or a ring finger in exchange for, maybe not a gold medal, a Stanley Cup?

No. Are you asking as a player or as a fan?

I'm not sure.

If you would ask- I'm not sure. I'm telling you, I thought about it for a good 10 seconds? This is huge.

The Tush Push has been banned. I knew it. Yes.

That is banned. Yes.

In the NFL.

They just said yesterday they were not going deal with it.

Also, field goals that are 60 plus yards, four points now.

I like that.

I like that. It's stupid. You know why that's stupid? Let me tell you why that's stupid. You're stupid. You're stupid. Can you hear what I'm going to say?

Wait, I think you're going to want this other piece of information before you formulate your take, because in a vacuum, I get what you're about to say. Why emphasize kicking? Well, guess what?

That's not what I was going to say, but go ahead.

No punting from inside the 50-yard line.

That is also fair. Here's why the four points for a 60-yard field goal is stupid, Tony. Sometimes you got to listen and develop an opinion before you just blurt something out. If a team, let's say, is on the 30-yard line, okay, we're down four points, but this field goal is only going to be worth three. Why wouldn't they just go and lose yards? They are. So they can kick a 60-yard field goal, one backwards on third down. Because they are. You think that's going to happen?

Yes, and I think it's going to be fascinating to see.

And that's ridiculous. And you know, 60-yard field goals are really, really hard. They're super hard. Wait, wait.

How about you? But you're down Guys, why don't you leave the line of scrimage where it is, do a punt-style snap, and that way there's way more room. You don't have to take a penalty. That could happen, too. That could happen, too.

Now, there's more room they have to run to block your kick.

Dave has his hand up.

And that's going to be ridiculous, no? That's ridiculous. Yes.

I don't want to be a part of this conversation until you tell me where you got that information from.

The League.

So you have a breaking news story that no one else has in the country right now.

No, I actually saw it discussed on Get Up as well.

Yeah, take that, David.

It's hopping in my NFL chat.

Yesterday, Mike, it was not on the agenda for the Competition Committee. What you're saying is that the rules not only were put forward, but they were voted on by the owners this morning.

I think David may have not heard a really important part of your brief news.

There's a penalty for not listening to the show, I believe. David Samson?

This is the NFL.

Oh, for God. God damn You know what?

I'm going to use this opportunity, though, to bring back my great field goal-related idea, which is the kickers are too good now, Tony. You're right. It is hard to do, but better. The guys of this generation are way better than the framers of the sport ever imagined they could be. They have warped the strategy of the sport. What we need to do is we need to complete the rectangle and put a crossbar atop the two crossbar. I love bars. Now the standard is raised so that the shorter kicks are not a gimme. You have to squeeze it through the rectangle.

Not a bad idea.

Thank you. Not a bad idea. I would take it a step further. What I've been saying is, I think it should be closer to the arena football where the posts are a lot closer together.

Okay. Teams should get to decide how they want their field goal to be, like a home field event. If I got a great kicker, I make this the smallest field goal you ever had. Oh, that's not bad. If I got a crappy kicker, I want a lot of field goals, widen it. You know You know what I would do? I would go so far as to say the original sin was allowing soccer players to sidewind. I would go back to, you have to be a head-on kicker or shame the devil. We're not bringing people over here to have nothing to do with football except to run out there two or three times a game and swing their leg and then go back into their hole. I'm done with that.

Shame that devil.

That's right. And you know what? To entrench this, you have to play at least five plays from the line of scrimmage to be eligible to even try. What are you doing?

He's going to get somebody killed. Yeah, free safety.

Also, no more shoes for kickers. Go back to the best kicker. Yes. Why do you need- Head-on shoeless kicker.

Yes.

David, are you still wallowing in your shame.

No, I'm now thinking about the NFL kicker at half a foot, and I want to say it was George Blanda. Tom Dempsey. Tom Dempsey is the better answer.

Tom Dempsey. New Orleans Saints.

It's an outrage that he has celebrated because his human infirmity was, in fact, an asset on the grid iron. Thank you. Because it's a flat foot that he put a steel plate into the shoe. You can visit it at the Hall of Fame, and when you do, you will see it is a driver. It's a golf driver. It's a driver head. Of course, he could make a 63-yard field goal. He was swinging a driver at the football.

So would you trade half a foot for the field goal record?

He did.

No, because I don't respect kicking.

He no longer has it.

David Demarchek, you and I park our cars in the same garage.

All right.

Cash to tell.

Long-term listeners of this show will remember when I said, Was it Shaq Griffin? Right? Yeah. I said, You know what? It might actually be an asset to him because he just gets to swing indiscriminately with this club versus having a hand that could break and all these things. Everyone said, Amine, no. Oh, my God. You're so insensitive. This guy has a disability. I said, It helped him. He's like Oscar Pistorius or that wrestler from Arizona State, and the kicker's the same way. Sometimes the disabilities can give you an ability.

Is there a rule in the NFL against a kicker intentionally cutting off his toes and having the same implant?

I believe that is in the rule book. Yeah, I believe it is.

Are you sure about that?

No.

Greg, I think you're onto something here. I think if you really want to be a winner in this league as a kicker, you want to really prove that, Hey, I'm about this team. I'm about success. You do that surgery.

You get it done. I like it. I like it, the kicker- I will never forget the first time that Christian Bale cut off his finger. The first time I saw it, and it was the character and the prestige, I will never forget that moment as that is what it means to be all in on something. If you're going to cut your toes off to be a good kicker, that is all in, and I love it.

Rodney Locke.

There you go. You know about the Prestige, you mean?

I know all about the prestige. Movie's awesome, though. Crisper Nolen. Don Levatard. Go Peefee. Stugatz.

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David, you know about the Nafto Awards from over the weekend?

Yes, of course.

I mean, what?

Finally.

I mean, David, give me some thoughts here.

I talked about it on today's Nothing Personal, and I'm afraid that I don't want it to come off as insensitive. But there are examples of places that I can't go for whatever reason. I gave the example that I wasn't tall enough as a kid to go on certain roller coasters. That's just it. That's the rule. Tourette syndrome is real. But being at a live show where there is an opportunity for that talk and that exhibit of what it is to have Tourette syndrome, we can't have it. And he just should not have been invited to be at the BAFTAs. And I'm sorry. It's a great movie, I'm sure, and one best actor for the guy who played him, and his statement apologizing, saying that the audience was warned in advance that he has dicks. I don't want to get on a plane and hear that I can't eat peanuts because there's somewhat the peanut allergy that drives me insane. Don't fly. Please. I want my peanuts. It is shocking to me that we have to sit and listen to someone say the N-word and say, Hey, it's Tourette's, and we warned you in advance it's going to happen.

Well, Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindow certainly didn't look like they had been warned about what was going to happen, and BAFTA certainly wasn't ready with what would happen if that actually happened.

Here's what I think is weird, David Samson, is that there was somebody out there who discovered the symptoms and otherwise of Tourette's and decided to name that infirmity after himself. Naming a bridge after yourself or an arena or a court is one thing, but how desperate, how vain are you that you want the attention if you discover the disease that is Parkinson's? Let's name it after me. I want to- You're going to say Lou Gehrig's disease? I think that's... Lou Gehrig didn't ask for that. They just tagged them with that. But imagine your- I don't know about that.

Imagine if you're Dr. Papp.

I came up with this smear that we're going to do on women forever. Hey, name it after me, Dr. Randy Smear. For the rest of time now, whenever you smear a woman, I want my name involved in it.

I thought it was Mike Papp. Papp Smear. I thought it was Mike Papp.

Mike Papp? Yeah. No, I can't remember. Trevor Parkinson? I don't remember.

Dave, over your right-hand right there, there's a magic crate.

Do you see it's blue? I don't think it's the name.

Yeah, it's right.

It shouldn't be right around there.

No, it's not there. It's glowing and it's got sparkles. Oh, wait, no, we've got it over here.

Will Jacob Marci be one of the best outfielders in Marlin's history?

That was in the crate? Yeah, it was in the magic crate of content. I had a hard time believing that.

One home run in spring training. Let's go. It looks good.

That's an easy no.

An eight bajillion OPS at the end of his last season.

David, you got something for us to review today? What have you seen recently?

So we got the Oscars coming up, and I actually haven't heard anything from Metalark as to what's happening. I heard some rumors, but nothing firm, which seems to track. But I'm going through the ballot one by one, and I got to the documentary Shorts. So we're definitely at the short strings right now. I'm getting to the randos categories, but There are some unbelievable documentaries in that category. And I want to talk about All the Empty Rooms, which should be a favorite to win. It is a documentary that's short. It's 30 minutes, 32, 33 minutes. It's about a A documentarian who goes to the homes of parents who lost their children in school shootings and films the rooms. Oh, my God. It's heavy. It is heavy.

It is sad. You voluntarily watch this?

It's nominated for an academy award.

I'm not saying it may not be really good. I'm saying, why would anyone watch that?

Because you can't put your head in the sand and pretend things don't exist, Zaz.

Especially with a big-eye head like that.

I know that these things have existed, but I wouldn't want to make myself feel even worse about it. I know these are terrible things. You must have felt horrible after watching it, though, right?

Those who forget the past are condemned to relive it. Not trying to forget. Especially where you live, it is critical to understand and think about these shootings and understand what we do when we vote for certain candidates or what we think about when we think about certain constitutional amendments. And this is an up-close and personal example of of what it is, the shattered lives that are left behind. And it becomes, you just said something about the news cycle earlier in this segment, where you move on. We're on to the next thing. It doesn't matter. Well, these families, there's no on. There's no on to the next thing. This is something that they live with every day, all day, except when their eyes are closed. Other than that, that's it. You only think about the death of your child. So this documentary goes through some rooms of these kids. It is incredibly powerful. Loss of Life. It's hard for me to understand how anyone could argue in favor of guns when you see the destruction that involves with school shooting. So it's a movie that you should watch, Zaz, and it's important to watch.

I would think that it has a real cathartic impact for the parents who had to agree to let these rooms be part of the movie. I can only imagine, and thank God, I've never had to experience I can only imagine if you lose a child in this manner, you never stop. You never get over that, ever. If this can give those parents some catharsis, some meaning to anything, I'm all for it. It makes me want to watch the movie, even though it would be very difficult to do so.

I think that's exactly right. People say, and in fact, Greg, you just said, you can only imagine people. The phrase that people use all the time that is 180 degrees from accurate it is. I can't imagine what that would be like. Yeah, you can. If you spend four seconds thinking about it, you will go into a real dark place of how grim that reality would be. And that's what we need to do. That's why you do need to look at it. I hate to get up on Mount Myers. Dave, that's not right. Oh, that's not correct?

No, because I used to think that I could imagine things that I now am dealing with, and it turns out I couldn't. So I used to say the exact same thing you did, and that is ignorant bliss that I wish I could return to. But when the reality of something happens, then you look at it and you say, Wow, I did not imagine that this pain or this terror existed. I pictured feeling differently or I pictured reacting differently. So I would say, Dave, I hope for the rest of your life that you only can say, I can imagine.

No, I would like to say, I can only imagine is about as bad a situation as I hope I hope I'm lucky enough to never be in a worse situation than that.

David, excellent job as always. Nothing personal with David Samson. Thank you, pal. Appreciate you.

Nfl. God damn it.

Thank you, David Samson. He got the right answer. The Samson Bridge.

I think there is some truth to what you were saying, where if you think about it, I've dealt with very close loss, and I always think when someone were to say something like, How does that feel? I would say something like, All right, well, imagine it. Imagine that the thing would happen to you. I'm like, Okay, I can imagine it feels really terrible. I'm like, Now multiply it by a million. That's how it really feels. That's the way that I describe something like that. I don't want to say for the movie that he reviewed there, I'm not saying it's something that I don't want to know about. I know plenty about it. I don't want to sit there for however long the short film is and have that really terrible, awful thing consume me for however 30 minutes, hour and a half, whatever. It's like, I know about the really awful thing. I don't want to sit there and feel even worse about it in this moment. I'm not saying I don't want to know about it.

I feel bad that Miami's greatest position is soccer attacker. That's who Michael Ryan- Marlin's right fielder, I'm telling you. Marlin's right fielder. List them all for me. Jean Carlos Stanton, one in MVP. Gary Sheffield, Miguel Cabrera. I mean, nobody thinks of Gary Sheff. It doesn't mean it doesn't count, but nobody associates Gary Sheff. I don't care. Nobody thinks of. I don't care. Nobody thinks of. But nobody associates Gary Sheff. One of the World Series. Okay, you're right. I agree, he should be a Hall of Famer, and you're right. I think of him in the turquoise hat. Okay. And who else? You have two. Miguel Cabrera. Maybe the greatest right-handed hitter of this century. He counts as a right fielder, though? He played some right fielder. Where he started.

It's when he won the World Series, he was a right fielder.

Yeah, when he got brushed back by Clemens and then hit that home run opposite field. It's funny that the Canes, I think, are nationally referenced QBU, right? Or is that USC more of it?

I feel like tight-end U.

Yeah. Briefly, though, in the '90s, when they had a run of quarterbacks that were always in that Heisman picture, they were QBU. Running backs. They became tight-end U the same way that Penn State is like, Linebacker U.

Yeah, but I think those are misnomers at some point. It's the same thing as the Cowboys self-IDing as America's team in the year of the Lord, 2026, does anybody consider the Dallas Cowboys America's team? It's much more likely the Buffalo Bills or the Detroit Lions or someone like that.

No, I think that the Dallas Cowboys have something about their branding. Okay, but we should move. They're talked about more often, and they get the attention.

But best picture changes every year, and so should America's team. Perhaps we should reevaluate who Rbu actually is in college football, and Qbu is in college football in any given year. I, as an olive branch, because I still feel real bad, I was happy. Again with this. As an Indiana University graduate, I was really happy that the Hoosiers won the national Championship. But I really don't want you, Keynes, fans, hanging your head. You have nothing to be sad about. You had a really nice season and good for you. Now, I think that- So condescending. I think that the Canes might be able to lay claim to Rbu, the best collection of runningbacks for any college in history. How say you, Greg Cody, as a historian?

I think they've had six or eight runningbacks who are top tier, who you're referring to, the Edger and James type, Clinton Portis. But I still think it's quarterback U for me. And as recently as two years ago, Kam Ward is breaking every season record, practically, for the Canes. And Beck would have cinched it for you, too.

If he wins the national championship. He didn't win, though.

And he almost won the Heisman. He was a finalist there. And then since then, had two quarterbacks who were considered the primary bullseye from the portal. So I think just in the past three years, I think they've feathered the reputation of a quarterback.

Quarterback U is a stretch, man. Quarterback U is Lincoln-Reilly.

Wherever he's at.

Oh, that's it. Well, that's a funny point. But I mean, Jim Kelly. People forget about Jim Kelly, as a matter of fact, because the titles don't start coming until Bernie Cossar. But Kelly, Cossar, and Testa Verdi and then Kam Ward.

And Gino Toretta. Long gap between them.

Baker, Kyler, Jalen Hertz. It was a hell of a run that happened recently. Caleb Williams. Caleb was in that quarterback room, went with Lincoln-Reilly, won a Heisman Trophy.

It doesn't have to be that they go on to pro-success. Jamel Hollowway makes the list if you're talking about Oklahoma QBs, '80s great national champion, master of the option. Yes, I mean.

Thank you, Dave. I was going to say heat centers.

You got Mourning, Shaquille O'Neill. Shame on you not starting with Roni Cykly.

Roni Cykly? Mm-hmm. Jack, Hassan Whiteside. Because he continues.

Consider me underwhelmed. Small forward to LeBron James, Jimmy Butler, Pela Larson.

Don't forget Clint Rice.

I mean, for instance, I live in Los Angeles. You have two position groups in that town that outstrip anything Miami has. You have Dodger starting pitchers is in contention for the greatest single position group for one franchise, but so too is Laker Center. But both lose out ultimately to Pittsburgh Penguin Center-Iceman, Cydney Crosby, Gino Malkin, and the greatest player to ever put on skates in the history of people, Mario Lemieux.