Transcript of Local Hour: Greg Kills His Horse New

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Just when I'm about ready to really sink my teeth into this heat team and start to believe that they can do something and even fake excitement about it. You've won three in a row. You're going into Milwaukee. And I get it, Milwaukee's had a good February, whatever. You're going You got a chance here to beef up the record a little bit. Then you have that stinker of a fourth quarter last night, and I'm just reminded how completely average this team is. That was frustrating last night. Go to Milwaukee, beat the stupid Bucks. Get me a little bit excited here. You had that performance, and I can't get wrapped up in it.

Yeah, disappointing loss for sure. Definitely disappointing. They couldn't get any stops on the defensive end. We're from the beginning of the game. They just really weren't as physical as they usually are defensively.

Were we up 12 at the beginning of the fourth? Early fourth? They got up eight.

They got up eight at the beginning of the fourth quarter, and then it was back to back threes in the span of about 15 seconds that forced a time out, and The frustrating part down the stretch was not only could the heat not get a field goal, they were getting to the line, but they just could not stop Milwaukee. That wasn't even a product of personnel. It was their starters on the floor. Milwaukee just kept spamming the same play over over again. They got hot, and the heat couldn't make threes, didn't make their free throws. They were up two with, I think, two minutes left, and Andrew Wiggins missed two free throws, and they couldn't close it out. It was a really disappointing loss because you want to continue that momentum. If you have to pick a win this week between Milwaukee and Philly, it's obviously Philly because that's the team you're chasing. But you want to continue what was happening if you're going to try to get yourself excited about a run.

Didn't you say earlier this week, Don't let them win two this week?

I did because I said I would be insufferable. I didn't say they were going to do anything.

Are we Don't let them win one now?

No, we're good.

No, we're good. I won't be insufferable.

He won't be insufferable.

Okay, good.

Yeah. Congratulations. You should actually be celebrating.

Jeremy, when you say that they couldn't stop anybody in Milwaukee, remember, Giannis is not playing. They couldn't stop Kevin Porter Jr. They couldn't stop Ryan Rollins. They couldn't stop Bobby Porter.

Not Ryan Rollins, man.

Good player. Good player. They couldn't stop Kyle Kuzma. Those are the guys that we're talking about. Kyle Kuzma. Couldn't stop.

He was hot to start the game. No, I mean, look. He was always hot. They The two of them between Rollins and Kevin Porter Jr. Were both really, really good last night, but it was more the defensive scheme. The heat did not play well. They didn't hit threes. They turned the ball over a lot. They played poorly defensively, and they lost the game to a team that's now won seven of their last nine and is trending.

No, I don't want to hear about the Bucks playing well.

That's what I told him to finish my sentence.

Me and him walked in this morning. He's like, The Bucks are playing well.

I was like, They suck. Okay, but the team sucks. Okay, but they are playing well.

I mean, does that team That team sucks.

Yeah, but they're playing well. It's a matter of where you meet teams, at what time you go on the road, you lose to a team. It's not a good loss.

Dave, you know about that team?

I didn't try to say it was a good loss.

Bucks suck. Yeah.

Dave knows about that. No, I get it. All I was trying to finish the sentence was saying, they're playing well enough to maybe get that 10 seat and let Giannis have an opportunity to get to the play in, which would be fun.

I think we learned something from yesterday to today. Greg Cody showed up still with the goatee, basically accepting the praise of Sid, our guest yesterday. Zaz goes against the man in the mirror by wearing a hat. I thought you just declared yesterday that when you're in the king's chair, then you treat it with respect.

Yes, what happened?

And act like Kingpin, show up bald.

Maybe I didn't like everyone laughing at me. All right? Is that so bad? King Kong, fundy. A little self-conscious.

Maybe I didn't realize that Sid was being facetious when he was complimenting my goatee. He wasn't.

I don't think he was. No, that's a good goatee.

He's a good look. He's 15 years younger, Greg.

I know, but- See, that part's a little bit facetious, 15 years younger.

What's he trying to tell you there?

He said 18. No, when I listen to it back, which I do all the time.

You listen to it back? You listen to it back?

Jack.

I listen to it back.

Jack. Ask him how many times he listens to his own podcast throughout the week.

The Greg Cody Show?

You listen to your podcast back as well?

I listen to it twice every week.

Why? Through different ears, dad, talk it. Why? Why?

I'm going to tell you why. I listen to it. First of all, I listen on 1. 5, so I listen quickly. I listen to it back the first time.

I've never done that, by the way, with anything I listen to. People say they do that, and then it's a great little tip. 1.

5?

I do advocate for listening back to yourself periodically and with some distance. Don't do it immediately after you finish the show. But the 1.

5. I'm a big 1. 5 guy.

The only way to do it, yeah.

Got to go through it quick. No, the reason is the first time I listen to it back, I try to listen as a listener. I don't listen to it critically. I'm like, Okay, what is the listener hearing? Is he enjoying it? Is it funny? Is it good?

And do you do this right after it comes out?

Yeah, generally. It comes out every Monday. I generally hear it Monday. And then the next day, I listen to it critically. What did we miss? What should we have done?

The critical ear.

Yeah, and that's what I do. Then the third time, I listen to the YouTube version. The third time? I watch the YouTube.

Greg, I'm with you on this 100% I will listen to Cinephobe every time it drops. Now, the difference is our episodes drop weeks after we recorded it, so everything is on a delay. I do have some distance, but I will listen, and I listen at one time speed because I want to know.

Are you as a listener or are you as a producer? A little bit of both. You could kill two birds there. I don't know why my dad doesn't two different listen.

It's a mindset.

Because I have some distance, though, it's easier to do that because when I'm listening, it's like, I don't even remember what we're talking about. I'm laughing Sometimes I'll be in a sense where like, Oh, man, this setup, man, I should have just come in with a slam dunk right here instead of this. Then I'll say it on the part of like, Oh, my God! Same note, too, to myself from three weeks ago. It's a great feeling to know that I'm consistent like that. Now, the watching of the YouTube, that one might be a little much.

Wilvane.

Wilvane? Wilvane?

Yeah. You think so?

Willvane.

Willvane.

She's trying to get the numbers up.

I guess the bottom line is, do you like what you're hearing, Greg Cody? When you do your critical, which is your favorite. Is it when you listen as a listener, as you just described, and then you give it your critical ear? What does the critical ear detect that improves the show?

I'll give you an example from the current episode where we're live at Gulf Stream Park watching my horse run for the first time. And the critical ear was like, wow, all I hear is the wind. It was windy, and the mic was picking up a lot of-The sound team didn't do a good job.

In hindsight, you would have said, Hey, Wind, cut it off.

Yeah, exactly.

How'd the horse do, Greg? Not good.

That well? No.

It could have been middle of the pack. Would it finish?

Last. Dead last.

So what happens now? You put it down? What happens? Yeah.

The glue factory. Yeah. Really? No.

You're going to have a bad day?

He put it in his own bed, the head of the horse on his own bed.

The episode ends with him putting it down.

Well, the problem was we learn after the fact that there was a physical excuse for the horse. It's a shocking ending.

For the horse. I like that we call it destroying the horse. I don't know if that helps, if it makes it feel more humane to us. To destroy it? We destroyed the horse.

I mean, who says that?

That's what they say. That is the terminology.

When a thoroughbred gets put down on the track, they say, We destroyed the horse.

They don't say put down? No, he had to be destroyed.

Only dogs get put down?

Or euthanized.

We say destroyed. None of that sounds good. It makes me think it's an object. It's not a-I think that's what we're supposed to.

I think that is what it is to a lot of these people.

Like the Death Star.

Like the Death Star guy who was like, Bim, we've destroyed the horse.

What happened to the horse? The problem with racehorses is they're very fragile. They're extremely fragile, more so than human athletes.

Well, whose fault was it that it came in last?

It had only run one race in her, it's a Philly, in her career, and not for 10 months. Although she had been training with Bill Mott, a Kentucky derby-winning trainer- So this Bill guy didn't do- Bill Mott thought she was ready, and apparently she wasn't, but she needed to run. She needed the practice, so to speak.

So what's the outlook?

She hit the gate coming out of the gate. She immediately crashed into the gate.

That's no good. It was a disaster from the gel. It wasn't like there was hope, but if she fated, it was like last place the entire time.

2020 hindsight, but you should not have had Chris as jockey. I think that would be the first change I would make.

Do you know how to ride a horse?

I've ridden a horse.

Does anyone here know how to ride a horse?

What's so hard?

I'm soaring off horses.

I'm soaring off horses. Tony almost died.

I almost died in a horse in Dominican Republic. What? El Diablo.

You guys are really sorry.

This is a great story. Was it your honeymoon?

No, it was not my honeymoon. I was 12 years old, 13 years old, and we go to Dominican Republic. We used to go every single year to Punta Cana. And one of the times, my parents were like, Hey, let's go horseback riding the mountains. We were like, All right, cool. I'm 13. I don't know, whatever. We get to this ranch up in the mountains, and they've got a couple of horses. And obviously, I'm a big kid. I've always been a big kid my whole life.

Even at 13?

Even at 13. So they look at me and they're like, We can't put them on a smaller horse. We got to put them on a bigger horse. And they look over and they're like, We're going to put you on that one over there. That one had its own pen, so it's by itself. The other horses are in the other-It's got the Hannibal lector mask. Yeah, it had a leather thing on it with the blinders. And I was like, Okay, whatever. Pull it up. So we start going down this grove of maybe a mile long of grove until it goes to this cliff. And then you go down the cliff and you go into the beach. So the cliff, imagine a row of a mile long of just palm trees on each side with just mangroves. And then we're going down. So we're all in a line together, maybe 15 horses. We're going down, Dominican guy in the front leading the pack, and everybody else, all the tourists in the back. So one of the guys, one of the families that we were with, the husband was like, Hey, can I go and run my horse a little bit?

I ride horses. Can I go do it? The guy was like, Yeah, for sure. Go do it. So the horse gets out of line, and he starts going. And my horse sees dad, looks through the line is like, Oh, wait a second. It's on now. So he comes out of line. Remember, I'm 13 years old. I've ridden a horse maybe three or four times in my life. This horse starts going like we're on the Kentucky Derby, and I'm sitting there, and we're getting to the cliff. So the cliff is like a half mile away, now a quarter mile away, and this guy is not slowing down. He passes the horse now that originally started running. He's gone, and it's just me and the cliff.

Is anyone on the trail yelling for you to do something?

Yes, but they're so I'm far behind that all I can hear is the commotion of yelling and not an actual task to do.

Your mom's screaming.

My mom's screaming.

Everybody's screaming. Did you consider just bailing?

This is what I'm thinking. I'm 13. I'm like, All right, I can see the cliff maybe 100 yards away. I don't know if this horse has a death wish and it's going to fling me a thousand feet to my death. Diablo. I have to be like, All right, I might have to jump off this thing. But we're going 30 miles an hour. We are flying. And at a certain point, I'm like, All right, I can't do that. That's crazy because all it is is shards of glass and rock and whatever. Shards of glass?

I feel like you added that to the story. I feel like there wasn't shards of glass.

Shards of glass just around in the Dominican?

Did you lie a little bit there?

No, because listen, why? I believe the Rock's part. Listen, there was trash inside the mangroves because I guess locals and stuff-They drink and they throw the bottles. Exactly right. Thank you. I'm telling you, there were shards of glass. I remember looking down, there was a- Chris, you throw a bottle of glass bottles.

They say snakes.

I would be lying if I said I'm telling the truth that there's shards of glass. Go on. The reason why we finally slowed down and I didn't get flung to my death is because of the trash. So the horse starts realizing, Oh, wait a second. There's something I can eat here in this trash. So he starts slowing down. And we're maybe a good 65 yards from the cliff where I would have been flung off. So we start getting into the mangroves, and I'm getting hit by the mangroves. I'm like, And the horse starts eating stuff in the thing. Come to find out his name was El Diablo, which means the devil. Perfect.

Did you have reins to pull?

I had reins, Greg. I was pulling him. I was pulling him. He was fighting through.

Listen to Greg, he's looking for a new purchase.

I don't know if this horse is still around. He's probably That's what he was destroying. He was probably sent to the group factory a long time ago.

He was destroying. Yeah, he's probably a little aged.

My greatest birthday party in the history of my life was Mo Damosheck, my mother. I was a big Lone ranger guy growing up. When I was five, she got a horse. I don't know how she did it. In Pittsburgh, PA, got a horse to come over to the house with a trainer. The horse didn't just show up.

Maybe she just convinced the horse to come.

A human handler brought a horse to the house, and me and my pals, we got to do a horse ride around the house. It was the greatest. It's all been downhill ever since.

No, horses are great.

I don't trust them.

You shouldn't trust them, but they're wonderful animals.

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Dan Levatard. I want to address Tony and all men who would wear that shirt in public. Stugatz. Don't do it. This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugatz.

I did a poor job yesterday. I felt bad about this because- He's covering their head. Okay, you got in your jokes. You're good? All right. I did a poor job yesterday because Greg was in with us yesterday. He's in with us on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. I did not ask. Everybody knows I went to Vegas two weekends ago. I think we asked me how my trip was, and no one asked Greg how his trip was to Vegas this past... You were in Vegas this past This weekend.

I was. We were there at the Sphere, stayed at the Venetian, walked over to the Sphere, saw the eagles. Because you weren't sure who you were going to see at the Sphere originally. I was not positive, nor did I know where we were staying. Loved the Venetian. Right up the street from- Venetian's great. Harris. We walked to Harris and I saw Big Elvis. Do you guys know Big Elvis? No. What is that? He's like a 450 pound- What is that?

From the last mic.

Elvis impersonator who has a residence at Harris.

And he sits and performs because he's so large. That's where Dan is right now?

I was slow catching up to that. Well done, Jeremy. Like your horse. Thank you. No, we had Big Elvis on our podcast a couple of years ago, so I went up to him, reintroduced myself.

He did not remember you?

Yeah, he did. He claimed he did. Oh, there he is. Hey, how are you doing, Big? What?

Are you talking to a photo?

I literally am. Sometimes you got to do that. Vegas was great. I had heard Dan I'm personally saying lately that Vegas is going downhill.

I thought it was well enough attended when I was there.

I did, too. I did, too. I mean, there were lines at every restaurant. It was crazy, crazy popular, crazy crowded.

Your first Sphere experience, correct?

It was. How was that? It changed my whole attitude about the Sphere.

Because you pooh-poohed it on the front end. You're like, doing too much, don't need all the bells and whistles.

I thought it would be very distracting. I'm there to listen to the Eagles, one of my favorite.

Now, where were you sitting? Because in the sphere, I think it's not like a given that you want to sit all the way up front. I think there's something to wanting to sit higher up.

Yes. I don't know the sphere well enough to know what everything's called, but we were on a mezzanine level.

200 level is probably where you were.

Okay, that's probably where... But we were overlooking the stage. They were really good seats. But the presentation that they do is is almost ineffably astounding because it's probably all AI, but you see the entire 180 degrees. And they start off with... It's like a hotel, California scene where you see all these sites from California, the Hollywood sign, and the oceans over here. And it's just astoundingly real.

You seem to be very moved by this experience.

Yes, I was because it doesn't affect the music. It doesn't affect your ability. It enhances. Yeah, it doesn't affect your ability to appreciate the sound.

What drugs were you on?

I was just going to ask. Tripping?

What were you doing there? I felt like I was. That was the experience, but it was wonderful.

Just 14 Miller lights?

It wasn't that many, no.

A couple of things. First of all, this is snobby, and it's unclear whether or not this is the case. Is it eagles or the eagles? Because talking heads is properly not the talking heads. There are a lot of people who will advocate. It's a good question. It's just eagles.

It's not the foo fighters is foo fighters, not the foo, it's foo fighters.

Okay, and it's eagles.

I think that's right. Oh, really? It's no the? It's eagles. I think that's correct.

It's the Beatles, though.

Dave, you dropped the the. It's a lot cleaner.

I hear you, right. That you want to grease the skids a little bit. But the other thing is with the eagles or eagles. It's funny that you, as a Floridian, dig them because I have said before, there are a lot of people who don't love eagles or the eagles. Now it's in my head. Now it's ruining the conversation.

You think it's just eagles?

But eagles or the eagles, I consider to be the ultimate... You know how we have system QBs? They only thrive in certain circumstances. Bands only work for my ears in certain circumstances. The eagles are, for me, the ultimate system band. I didn't love the eagles growing up in Pittsburgh or going to college or anything. But when you're driving at sunset on the 405, when you're driving on PCH and you're driving down and the sun is setting over the Pacific and you put on Take It To The Limit. It's the optimal song you could be playing in that environment, and they are, therefore, the greatest system band. But you dug them here while looking out at the Atlantic, eh? I did.

Yeah, I think they're a national band. For me, two generations ago, three generations ago, it was the Beach Boys were always considered the The American band.

That's a great conversation, too, because I think R-E-M has now overtaken both. But I'm sorry, it didn't mean the street band.

Oh, really? Atlanta's own? No, they're not Atlanta. Where are they from? Athens. I think they're a niche band. I like R-E-M.

So Eagles is your number one? Greatest American band of all time?

I feel like you went to the Eagles, mainly because mom wanted to go.

I feel like this is too Americas. She's a bigger fan than...

Go ahead, Roy.

Who do you like, Roy? Earth, Wind, and Fire? What do you got? Oh, yeah. Earth, Wind, and Fire is excellent. Excellent band.

Dave, I think if the Eagles were Greg's favorite band, he would have known for sure that's who they were going to Vegas to see.

Well, here's the thing. We've seen the Eagles before.

Because your wife. I think you're just latching on to mom's fandom for the Eagles right now.

Does she like the Eagles more than me? If we're going to have a wait?

You didn't know you were going to see them in Vegas.

I wasn't sure.

It'd be like if when I'm going with my son up to Boston to go see Pearl Jam, who are you going to see?

I think we're going to see Pearl Jam.

Okay, but You have blinders or equine blinders on when it comes to Pearl Jam. I know they're my favorite. I like a lot of different groups and types of music.

We need to get younger.

Say, Drewski. I want to bring something up that I saw yesterday that I hope we can start giving more attention to. And this is just a jumping off point when we're talking about local athletes who are beloved here. Dave brought up yesterday when we talk like, what position group is the best down here?

Soccer forward.

We talk about Moreno, obviously, and Dwyane Wade. But I'm going to tell you something. We better start having a conversation about Alexander Bartkow. All right? You see Alexander Bartkow yesterday? He's been very involved for years now. I mean, what's he been on the team, by the way? For 13 years?

No, like nine or 10. Nine or 10, I think.

Yeah, I thought he was drafted in like 13, maybe. Maybe you're right. He's been down here forever. It's the only team he's played for. For a very long time, time, he is extremely generous and charitable with his time with the Joe DiMaggio Children's Hospital, which, by the way, it takes a special dude, I think, a special person, period. But when you're an athlete and you're devoting your time to going and spending time with sick kids, that is a special type of person.

When you say sick kids, are they nice with it or are you talking about sick, ill?

I'm talking about ill.

When you say ill, do you mean ill, like in the '80s? That kid is ill? Like he's ill?

Or do you mean like- I mean, he is in a very unfortunate circumstance. Got it. Okay. It takes a really special type of dude to devote their free time to being around and trying to make a great day first sick children. He spends a lot of time at that... I mean, the place that he took the Stanley Cup was to the Joe DiMaggio Children's Hospital. Yesterday, they unveiled that he made a... They didn't give the exact number, but a seven plus figure, digit figure, donation that he personally made to the hospital yesterday. And they named an area or a wing in the hospital. They named after him. He's crying up there at the honor that he's received. And this is a guy who shows zero emotion. It's part of what makes him so great.

I believe he says, we don't have the video, but he says in it, I don't think I've ever cried. This is the first time I've cried.

Yeah. And I hope, and granted, the Panthers win in the Stanley the last couple of years plays a major part, and that's great. But I hope that we, overall, start to really acknowledge this person for how great he is and what he does in this community. And yesterday was a really good time How does that bring that up.

He's a kind guy, and he spends genuine time with those kids. One of my campers at Camp Fiesta, which is that summer camp for children with cancer that I'm a part of, Caden. He's a patient at Joe DiMaggio Children's Hospital, and he was one of the kids who last year actually gave Barcov an award that they had created for him. The way Caden talks about Alexander Barcob is as if they are truly friends because that is the amount of time that Barcob spends- It's tremendous.

At that hospital.

This is just one of dozens of kids who he has spent that type of time with. He's a really special human being for being around and present the way that he is. It's one thing to donate your time. It's one thing to donate your money. It's another thing to do both.

Well, listen, I didn't know you were doing that, Tashay, so you also deserve credit for that because I say it all the time. We talk about courage and bravery and all those sorts of things when it comes to sports and obviously military action and beyond. The balls to do that. As I've clear, a Stealers fan, and people were very down on Russell Wilson a couple of years ago, and I was, too, from a football perspective. But you will never hear me say a bad word about what a strange guy he is, and his life arc is strange. Man, he every faithfully goes to children's hospitals, even after the Malcolm Butler game, which professionally was a down moment for him. He made his regular appointed visit to the children's hospital in Seattle. Jj Watt does that, Charlie Batch does that. Guys who do that, man, that is courage to go. And Tashay, you deserve a shout out, too, because if you can look, if you can go with those kids, what they go through and to boost their spirits is the greatest balls you could have.

No, my family has been a part of that.

That's the third of phrase, Greatest balls you can have.

My family has been a part of that for a long time, so I'm really just like a neppo hero. I was born into it.

We take back some of the-You work hard.

It's like the Incredibles. Don Levatard.

Quiet man. Yes. I'm a married man. I don't cheat on my wife despite that gratuitous line back in my day. That you wrote. Stugatz. I wish you were here, my wife. I really miss her. No, I don't. That's the thing about being married. You're not allowed to say, I don't miss my wife. I've been gone two days. I haven't been gone long enough to miss my wife. I'm sorry. I call her. I'm on the phone with her for 30 seconds. What am I? Hello. All right. All right. We'll see you. All right. And then I'm going to see her in two days. How's jumping Charlie? Good.

This is the Dan Levatard show.

With the Stugats. Barcob is the real deal is the point that I'm trying to get to. And if hockey here meant to all of us all these years, what it does, let's say, to people in Pittsburgh, Alexander Barcob would be the tops of the tops.

A hundred %. I totally agree with that because right now, again, doing the Mount Rushmore thing, I think it's always going to be Wade Moreno as a starting point.

Well, and then we need to have a conversation about Barcow.

Yeah, they're baked in,.

That's great. Yeah, he should be the face of the Panthers by athletic deed, too.

Especially now, it's not a niche sport anymore. When you win two Stanley Cups in a row and you're selling out every arena, it's not a niche sport. It has arrived, hockey has, fully. I don't care what Sid said yesterday, making fun of South Florida as not a hockey town. And so you're right. I agree with you. I think Barkoff deserves to be elevated to that echelon, not just for the off-field stuff you mentioned, but partly because of that. And on the ice, we've seen this year the downfall of the Panthers, which I think is totally related to Barkoff not playing.

And the goalie being terrible.

That, too.

And the reality in the 21st century of the number of games you play, and it's take it to the limit, once again, style of play in all the major sports.

Look, take it easy with the Eagles references.

Well, but- Oh, well put.

See, I missed that one.

Push it to the Limit is better than take it to the Push It to the Limit is a way better song.

Much better. Push it to the limit. Walking past the vases.

What movie you think about when you hear that? There's only one movie.

Should we put that on the poll? What song, Better to go down, PCH, those two songs?

Absolutely. But Zaz- One answer. What movie? Forget about what movie. Say the- What scene.

When they're making the money. The montage scene. They're at the banks.

They're at the banks.

You got the white tiger.

You got the duffle bag. They're carrying the duffle bags inside the Starts with the money counter.

They're making moves.

What is it? I don't even know what this take it to the limit song you're speaking of.

That's what I'm saying.

It's strange to me. It never has occurred to me until literally the last 90 seconds. Miami, which feels to me like a storied American city, and obviously it is. It's funny to me that the Dolphins are by far and away the most tenured team in this town. It's weird. Everything else is 15 minutes ago. Yeah.

I A good portion of my childhood, we only had one professional sports team.

That's really strange. Has there been a major city that went with... I mean, even just one team. It went until... I should know this, 69, they come around? '66.

Dave, here's the deal? This is the common misnomer that Miami is a major city. It's really not. It's like the growth, physically and population-wise, is pretty recent. But I remember even when LeBron came down here and everyone was like, These big markets are getting on. Technically, in the NBA scheme of things, 30 teams, Miami was below the top 15. They were a small market. It's a really cool place.

That's why people think of that. I always go with market over population within the city limits. But the market of Miami is Got to be top eight or top 10. We're number 13. Top 10?

Thirteen. Again, a lot of that is recency. A lot of that is recency. Traditionally, historically, it was not a big market. It was not looked at as a market that can support a lot of professional sports.

We also don't talk nearly enough as a football-obsessed society about the dolphins. I know some people are touchy about that and say it's embarrassing what the state of the dolphins has been for many decades. Now, it's not a national conversation. They are very much now like the Kansas City Chiefs eight or so years ago, which they inhabit that weird space. It's easy to make fun of the Browns who never do anything. But the Chiefs for a long time was like, imagine being in... Well, I don't have to have you guys imagine that you're Dolphins fans.

I used to always say- Tell us more about the Dolphins.

Imagine you're one of the most storied franchises in pro football, our most popular sport, and people hold you up is like, wow, the Chiefs were great for a long time. The Dolphins, man, they're a 10-point franchise. They haven't done nothing for this millennium. No.

We can imagine that. You guys hear that?

We live it. If I think real hard, I can imagine I hear the foots.

Is that Dan Levatard running in here? They're like, I got to talk about this. How they haven't been relevant in 25 years.

Yeah, a quarter of a century since the last playoff win.

I mean, are they the best? But for real, I guess I'm getting hyperbolic to try to make a point, but are the Dolphins the team that we, in our brains, considered like, Oh, yeah. They're not a punchline team like, are after the last 34 years.

No, they are. We're aware.

I'll give you five We are the New York Knicks.

Okay. I feel fair.

That's a team that hasn't had success.

We are the New York Knicks.

Six words? Six.

They were in the Easter Conference finals last year. That's like the Dolphins going to the AFC Championship game and then lose it. They haven't done that. I guess.

Well, the other one that I would volunteer is they're not a punchline team, but the Niners, they inhabit what I'm describing here, which is if you are 40 or younger, people talk about the Niners as one of the most... You didn't experience that viscerally. You know about it from the elders in your community, but you don't know what it feels like to actually...

I like the idea there's an area where there's just 49ers elders who are hanging out together. It's going to be the elders.

It's Joe Montana just sitting there in a throne much like Zazlo in his backwards hat. The Niners are that now, too. But there's a distinction to be made between them and the Dolphins because the Niners go to Super Bowl, but then they cause you great pain. If you're a Niners guy- Sure, but you have playoff wins.

I would kill to have that pain.

That's a philosophical debate. Do you like getting to the big spots and being crushed?

Zaz, would you rather get to Super Bowl's and NFC Championship Games or NFC Championship Games than do what the Dolphins are doing?

Because I'm at a point in my life, and I think I've been pretty clear about this, I'm at a point in my life where it isn't just about winning the Championships anymore. I want the moments. It's the moments.

Journey of a destination, right? Yes.

It's the moments that lead up to... It's why the Miami Heat, when they lost the finals in 2023 to Denver, holy shit did I enjoy that playoff run. There were so many amazing moments, particularly spearheaded by Jimmy Butler. I look back really fondly at that. I want the moments. The moments to me are just as good as winning the Championship and the Dolphins. I haven't had a moment with the Dolphins since the Lamar Smith game. We're going back 26 years.

Dolphins are Nebraska football. Used to mean something, now joke.

That's a good one. I think if you're a Dolphin fan, you had a moment a few years ago when they're the best offense in the league, and they're scoring 70 points against Denver. That was really exciting for a man. That's supposed to last longer.

Oh, my God. That's supposed to last longer.

That was so annoying. A regular season feeling, that's not good enough.

That's the best Dolphins football of my lifetime. I was born in '95. And it's not good enough. The Wild Cat, that era is the second best Dolphins football I've ever witnessed. It's been all mediocrity. The way you guys have complained about two seasons of the heat being in mediocrity and, Oh, I'm not going to want to watch.

I'm not going to do this. A little more than two seasons, buddy.

It's been two seasons of play in and out.

They were in the finals the year before.

If I could just say very quickly, you guys had some really nice moments this past season with the Canes. You came up a little Yeah. I mean, you shouldn't hang your heads. I know that the- This is the one opportunity for you to do the Mendoza bullshit.

I know what he's doing. He's doing the bullshit right now.

He's doing the bullshit right now. And that was a great moment. But I want to take a moment to pour one out for the Canes fans. First off, You guys- Don't do that. Keep your chin up.

Look at me right now, Dave Damosheck. Keep your chin up. You're not looking at me. Look at me right now. I'm going to take what you did, which was the bullshit, and we're going to flip it into the right stuff. Because when you talk about what the Canes were doing, the going to Texas A&M in the middle of a windstorm, ending it with an interception. Okay, Bryce Fitzgerald ending the season 4, Texas A&M. That was a huge moment.

Ohio State- You just did the Fernando Mendoza dive into the end zone against the Canes post.

No, I didn't. I did the Fitzgerald interception.

The pick 6 against Ohio State. That was a moment- On New Year's Eve, of all things. Carson Beck running into the end zone. With his legs. That was a moment. I got the moments from the Canes. Yes, winning the Championship would have been amazing, but I got the moments. To answer your question, would I take the heartbreak of the Dolphins losing in the AFC Championship Game or in the Super Bowl? Yes, because I'm likely still gathering the moments leading up to that point.

Yeah, well, also in the moment, you don't know. It's not like you have divine foresight of what's going to happen.

Well, no, but I am acknowledging in that moment, holy shit, that was unbelievable. And then the entire next day, I'm thinking about how I felt, and I can't watch enough highlights of Carson Beck running into the end zone.

The next day, you're like, Oh, my God, I can't believe we lost that. But in the moment, you thought, you believed, oh, my God, it's actually going to happen in a way that right now, you don't even have that feeling. You'd rather have that feeling and have the heartbreak associated with it than to be bereathed of any feeling whatsoever.

The Keante Scott interception will live Greg, you tell me, is that a 25-year highlight? We're 25 years from. We're like, You remember that New Year's Eve?

I think so.

Like, Keante Scott intercepting the ball, going the other way, reading the entire situation, beating Ohio State, doing all the things that the Canes did in that run was something I'll never forget.

The only problem with that is that if it doesn't continue on for the next 25 years with any other moments, that's going to be looked at by future generations sitting here doing shows like this, the the way that I look at even the Moreno years.

You guys are all right about celebrating these moments. If you set the expectation as a fan that my team wins the title or it's a bust of a season, you're going to be a pretty miserable human being going through life. But then again, you touch on expectation. And why it hurts extra worse is if you have Dan Moreno. If you have a generational guy, then you set expectations at a different level. And when you don't meet those, that's when it's crushing. The dolphins haven't even had a reason to be hopeful. No.

You know what else I'll never forget? Roy saying that Carson Beck shouldn't throw the interception on my deathbed. I'll remember that for the rest of my life. For the rest of my life, I'll remember that.

Mike, you know I have one rule to live by, right?

Don't place parlays on multiple long shots. Don't say a game is one when it hasn't hit triple zero.

Always drink your Jägermeister ice cold. That's the rule. Everything else is merely a suggestion.

Everything else?

Everything else.

Wearing clean underwear every day?

Well, that's just a personal decision.

Brushing your teeth?

Obviously smart, but not a rule.

Never PP on an electric fence.

Okay, maybe there are two rules, but the one that is 100% that I insist on completely, Jägermeister must be drunk ice cold. Or don't drink it at all.

Damn, that's cold.

Exactly. You're finally starting to get it.

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