Transcript of Hour 1: The Virtue Signal (feat. Domonique Foxworth & Charlie Kravitz) New

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But the Steelers had no need to get a QB because they already had signed an old man to play sports' most important position, while the Seahawks signed a journeyman QB. The Cowboys traded Micah to the packers, and then the season kicked off. When the champs beat Dack, then the Raiders beat the Patriots in Foxborough, and Derrick Henry fumbled, and Allen beat Lamar on Sunday night in what was sure to be a preview of a more important showdown come January. And JJ McCarthy made KOC look smart with a rally against Caleb Williams in Chicago. Meantime, the former first-round QB who'd left Minnesota in the offseason was rolling in his latest NFL home. Yeah, in case you forgot, at one point, Danny Dimes had the Colts at 8: 02. While Mahomes wasn't playing so well, but no worries. You think they're going to miss the playoffs? They're the Chiefs. And speaking of QB, some people got real excited about Baker Mayfield for MVP until they lost that enthusiasm just before Baker lost out on the NFC South to the Panthers. Yeah, the Carolina Panthers. And Jalen Hertz was mad, and A. J. Brown complained, and nick Siriani made a face, and Phil Rivers played some games.

Phil Rivers. And the Jets were the Jets, and the Browns were the Browns, and the Steelers traded away a talented receiver who wouldn't behave, then traded for a talented receiver who punched a fan. And Caleb and the Bears got good playing with the Lion's Johnson and Stafford's back held up long enough for him to hold up the MVP trophy. Then KC actually did miss the playoff, and Mahomes tore his knee, but at least Kelsey got down on his knee. Then the playoff started, and a bunch of teams that didn't make him fired their coaches, and Stroud stunk, and Josh Allen played badly in Denver. But that was okay because everybody decided to show their boundless empathy by feeling bad for a multimillionaire, married to a Hollywood starlet. Then they showed the depth of their emotional well by crying about it snowing at a football game. Then the last chapter of the current season was interrupted by an outpouring even more histreonic anger over a failing ACC coach not getting a gold jacket. Half the country cried about a halftime show.. Then another former first-round QB who'd left Minnesota in the offseason rolled in his latest NFL home by beating a member of the 24 QB class, which is already in contention for best QB class ever, and won a Lombardi before any of his MVP win in draft classmates even reached a Super Bowl.

Long story short, we end where we started with Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert, and Joe Burrow, Lombardi-less, and now an offseason devoted to hearing the phrase, Defense Wins Championships. Let's start the show.

Eric is available on Mondays and Fridays. Damoshek is doing an exceptional job. That is how he starts the latest rendition of Football America. Can you get me the stat of the day music, please, so I could get to some basketball stats with Jeremy? Start of the day, start of the day. It is your start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day. It is your start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day.

It is your start of the day. Start of the day, start of the What do you have, Jeremy? Three stats for you, Dan. First on Nikola Jokić. In NBA history, only one player has reached all of the following marks before the All-Star break in a given season. 1,000 points, 475 rebounds, 400 assists, 250 made free throws, 75 threes, 30 blocks. That one player is Jokić. He missed 16 games.

I was just going to say, how did he do all of that if he missed time for the first time in a while?

He missed 16 games.

I'm telling you that he doesn't get in the discussion of best offensive players there have ever been because he's seven feet tall. We prefer those people be 6'6.

I don't know if it's that. I think it's because he looks like a loaf of bread. The Oklahoma City Thunder are on pace to be the third NBA team to outscore their opponents by 10 plus points per game in consecutive seasons. That joins the Warriors in their historic run, the Bulls in their historic run, but they also have eight losses as a double-digit favorite in their first 56 games, the most of any team in the last 30 years.

And what is the third stat of the day?

Bronnie James was 105 days old when LeBron James recorded his first career triple-double. He's a 21-year-old who played in the same game for LeBron's 123rd career triple-double as he became the oldest player ever.

Well, so last night, what he ends up doing, he assists and or scores Each of the first 23 points in the game, that's the longest stretch he's ever had of doing that against Dallas or what remains of the Dallas Mavericks that was playing yesterday. Dominic is staying with us here for a little bit. He has decided to thrust Charlie upon us as well. Where were you guys playing memory games? I've heard you lament here recently that you're aging. We've been making fun of Greg Cody saying he should do the show from a memory unit because he just misplaces some things that should be easy for him to remember. What's going on with your memory?

Greg just missed the mic. First of all, we should appreciate how incredible Greg was last segment. That was awesome. Sorry, Dan, you're going to lose him for the rest of the show. Thank you, Dominic. But great job. That was incredible. I might have to take a QK at some point in this segment because I've been drinking a lot of coffee. Yes, thank you.

But the point- Why are you saying thank you? Because he might have to take a quick crap later. Why are you saying thank you to that?

Because I invented quick crap. Anytime anybody takes some, I get my little Vig. Where's my Vig, Vig? Thank you. You got it. You're welcome. And you know it. Beautiful soup. You're welcome. God, that man's talented. Wow, that man's a talent. I remember I used to hate Greg. Like, six years ago, hated him. Yeah, why was that? Didn't get it. Why was that? I was just jealous of your talent, I think, more than anything I was jealous of your talent, and Arlene is fine as hell. It made me upset. That's all. I was like, why does he deserve all of this? I know. I think that- Tell her I said hi, by the way. Thank you. I will.

Your memory. You forgot that I was asking you a question about your memory.

No, I'm good to that. Relax, man. Relax. Take a load off, Dan. Stop stressing. Be all right, man. Cool. Deep breath. All right, you good? You good? All right. Chill out. Me and Charlie got you. All right, both of us. So I was saying that this time of year is one of my favorite times of year because we are not beholden by the NFL calendar anymore. And of course, podcasts are incredibly easy when you got football season. But right now, it's fun time. And so our show yesterday was Charlie is a List guy. I don't know if you know this about Charlie, but he has a bunch of ridiculous lists on his phone. But one of the lists that he has on his phone that we did yesterday was the top 25 moments in the last sports moments in the last 25 years. Is that right? Yeah, that's right. But we didn't finish the list because Dominic just left number 13. From the 25th to the 13th best sporting event. We'll do the rest on the Monday show. We'll record a Sunday night. But what I realized was in preparation for that show, I was looking at Charlie's List, and I was going back watching highlights and watching portions of those games.

And there were so many of those events that I misremembered, and it reminded me of Greg and how you guys give him a hard time about his memory because I did not... So for instance, the game where Tua... I'm sure you guys all remember when Tua came in to the national Championship game and won it out of nowhere over Georgia and Alabama. And maybe this is just me, but do you remember when he came in that game? Because I remember it being, I conflated it with when Jalen Hertz came back in the following year in the SEC Championship game. And I thought that Tua came in in the fourth quarter, but he did. He actually came in at halftime. Then I also forgot how athletic to it was and how strong his arm used to be. I was sad. Sorry, Dolphins fans. Dominic, a quick bit of unsolicited advice. When you're doing a top 25 list, what you have to do is one number per week to drag it out for a half a year. That's what you got to do right there. This man knows how to offseason. He knows how to offseason.

You got through 12 and your memory was faulty on all of it? Because that's true. All All I remember is that it was third and forever. I just remember, how did Georgia allow that receiver to get that wide open? Was it Waddle? Who was the receiver that got- Monte Smith. How did he get that wide open when it's third? Wasn't it third and 30 something?

Yeah, because you have a better memory to me because I had forgotten that the first play of overtime, two of us got sacked, and Georgia had just hit a really long field goal. Two of us got sacked on the first play of overtime. It felt like it over. And then the very next play, a bomb to Devante Smith. There were a ton of incredible freshmen in that game. You forget when you watch those games, how many great players or how many players that went on to play in the NFL and be number one overall pick. And that also reminds you of a previous time in college football and college sports that we're not going to go back to. We remember, was it Chris Davis? No, no. Was Chris... Was it shot, the You'll get there. The big shot that we had from- Chris Jenkins. Chris Jenkins. Big shot. See? My memory is rough, guys. It's all right, Cody. Don't let him pick on you. It's hard memory.

This is precisely the reason to keep a Charlie around. The only one I've been able to discern in all my time knowing Charlie is that he could do what he just did with Devante Smith when I'm confusing him with Waddle because he's good at that. But that's all he's good at.

My emotional support human. He does a good Dan impression, actually. Yeah, you did call Trinidad an ambulance in economy, and I started squeling next to Dominic. We had to immediately get into the offseason reruns. Dominic is about to call things monopsonies and cartels, exploited bodies. But Dan, I will give you credit. You have an incredible memory for every single video of a nut shot, someone falling over, slipping on ice, whatever. We did that for almost a decade, and you remembered every single clip.

Well, the biggest argument I had Pardon the interruption when I'd go up there and host the show for them is like, Why aren't we leading with the bear dropping onto the trampoline from a tree? Why wouldn't we lead with that? They're like, Well, it's a sports show. I'm like, Yeah, but you've got a bear falling out of a tree, and it's landing on a trampoline, and it's being surprised that because of its weight, it's now springing off of the trampoline. That's something that we have to play. Why wouldn't we lead the show with that? They're like, Well, because it's a sports show.

And VTI is 700,000 years a day. We're sitting in a basement talking to you and you're talking to me. Last time we came down and hosted, we brought some gifts. One of them was Dan Bingo. We had some cards that we wanted you guys to keep sleep, and Economies was one of them. So when we listened to the show, we played Dan Bingo, the go-to. And offseason is the best time for those sorts of things. One of those other things is a gift that I want to leave with you guys that we're going to call the virtue signal. And we love when When Dan gets out there and... And it's not just Dan. That was the Dan impression. Peek it through right there. That's it. When Dan decides the virtue signal-Oh, wait a second. We got to put the virtue signal up. Virtue signal.

What are you guys doing with the lower half of my body there? Why are you making me Bill Parcells? What was happening there- more Charlie Weiss for me. With what it is that you guys are doing there?

It's a good likeness.

Just to be clear, your producer, what he seized on on Trinidad Chamblist was an economy, and not you saying that Judge, not you defending Joe Judge for saying, Hey, pregnant lady, don't wake up the quarterback. The quarterback's got to sleep. And you left out part of the quote, which is, go into another room and get detached from the pregnant woman. Get detached from the... Oh, you guys. Get that off. Get that.

Don't do that. Don't do that. That's not... That's not Dan. I in the hands.

That's beautiful. All right, get rid of Dominic. Get rid of Charlie. I don't like...

Get them out of here. One last thing. One last thing. Watch the Chuck video. Show the Chuck video. You guys see Chuck video before we go. Before we go, show the Chuck video. We'll go. And we don't have any sound on it. Mina was there. She was yelling. Mina was screaming. And watch this guy, Chuck. Nate Tice was there being like, The only person who could compete with him is Travis Frederick.

So Mina says she He doesn't even know that person's name and never wants to know his name, only knows him as the Chugger, correct?

And he's got a son that he said, he said his son puts away milk in the same way. He said he's got potential. Lil Chuggy Junior, Lil Chuggy June June. All right, we'll leave now.

All right, see you later. The Dominique Foxworth Show also features Charlie. I encourage you to check it out because, as I said, Mina is one of the people doing it very well now. Dominique, Chris Long, Chris Sims, they're among the best that I've heard having the range to give you both excellent football analysis, but also entertainment.

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Are you guys doing anything with the Winter Olympics? Are you guys getting sucked in? Because there are a lot of people watching the Winter Olympics. The The ratings are the best that they've been for that in more than a decade. People are hunting down the streamers. It's not just that they're watching it on linear television and the numbers are going crazy. But I don't... South Florida typically just does not do winter sports well. And so I don't find that anybody that I'm walking around into is talking about or interested in anything going on with the Winter Olympics. And I don't feel like you guys are watching any of this either.

I'm casually watching it. I'm not going to act like I'm a diehard for any of these sports. I'm obviously rooting for USA in all of them. But last night, I'm watching half-pipe snowboard racing. I'm into it. It's great to have on, but I'm not like a Jessica who's waking up to see it live. I love the 8: 00 to 11: 00 replay. Give me the best of the day and just put it on and just watch it like I watch golf on the weekend.

Well, one of the objections that I was having to what it is that basketball gave us last night is, come on, basketball, you have the a stage to yourself among the professional sports. Hockey is off at the Olympics. Football is over. Baseball has not yet begun. Here, basketball is time for your showcase with the All-Star Game and whatever is left of your regular season games. But basketball ends up dropping the ball, at least in part because we love the story lines in basketball, but I think they're over in the Winter Olympics. If you want buy-size cubes of sports being great just because you don't care necessarily about... You don't have to put in any investment over the last four years. Tune in here. This person has been working for four years to entertain you for the next three minutes. In terms of condensing sports into something that can keep your attention for the perfect amount of time in short attention span, the short attention span generation, the Olympics is perfect for it. Just do it quickly. Give me quick stories, wrap them in a bow. And that's why everybody loves to have the Olympics to televise.

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I absolutely love it for the oddities of it. To me, crawling is a mind-blower. Skeleton is terrifying. It's an actual sport called skeleton. You got the best US male figure skater doing back flips on the ice. There's insane stuff to see.

Base, as I mentioned, pitchers and catchers are reporting. I was surprised to see nick Castellanos, although he pronounces as Castellanos, I was surprised to see that he was just outright waived. Didn't he have the last year of a big contract-20 million. Yeah. What happened there? What is the back story on What happened there? He was a very popular player in Philadelphia.

Yeah, so he started to struggle and had been pretty consistently being replaced late in games for defensive purposes. Is he the Tua of the MLB? Just had a good where this was decent, but then just got a big contract and then... That's more Anthony Rendón. Castellano still had some success at the beginning of that stretch with the Philly's. But late in last season, he had a moment in Miami where he was taken out of the game. He's from down here. He was taken out of the game as a defensive replacement, and then went and got a beer from the clubhouse and brought it out and sat in the dugout and basically used it as a means to scolp his manager and put him down for the lack of discipline in other areas of the team.

What do you mean? Sat next to his manager with a beer and started scolding him for all the things that he was doing wrong in managing the team?

Yes. And he actually wrote a handwritten letter yesterday after being cut by the fillies that he posted to his Instagram, both thanking his teammates, thanking the organization, thanking all of the fans, but then also explaining what he to as the Miami incident because he was benched after that. And he claimed, I wanted to tell the media what had happened in this scenario, why I wasn't going to be playing, but the team basically told me not to. I was advised not to. And so this is where we end up, where he's cut now right before spring training. Would we think less of that statement if it was typed? Did he think he was like, this will have more gravity in my post? We also can't read it. I can't read the handwriting. He posted that on Instagram of like, look, I hand...

Would we think more of it? I Is that what you're asking?

My point is just type it. It's 2026. Why are you handwriting that? No, the penmanship was pretty good. I'm more after read that or try to decipher because sometimes it's not always as easy as typewriting. Just type it, though. I just don't get the... He in his mind was like, All right, I have a thought here, and this will be executed.

Well, what does it say? I can't read it from here, and it's fairly rare, okay? I know that the angels negotiated a buyout on the last year of Rendón's contract, and that Rendón is the symbol for cashing in and checking out. But it's rare around the guaranteed money of baseball for a popular player to be waived in spring training when he's owed a guaranteed $20 million that they have to give him no negotiations on a buyout. I don't know whether he had any trade value or not. Probably not at that price tag. But You must be done with somebody in a way that is total for you to wave him right before the season starts when you owe him a guaranteed $20 million.

I was really surprised that it was right now as opposed to at the end of the year. Maybe there was something that offsets, but they owe him the $20 million outside of the pro-rated minimum for veterans. So it's essentially almost $20 million. The quote that he wrote was, After being taken out of a close ball game in front of my friends and family, I brought a Presidente into the dugout. I then sat right next to Rob and let him know that too much slack in some areas and too tight of restrictions in others was not conducive to us winning. And then said, After meeting with Dombrowski and meeting with Thompson, We aired out our differences in the conversation ended with me apologizing for letting my emotions get the best of me. He also added that he was benched the next game as punishment. You got to go Miller light there instead of that other beer.

Well, but you can't. You cannot lecture your manager in the dugout about his rules while holding a beer. Wild.

You can't do that. You never see that. He said his teammates and some of the bench coaches came up and stopped him before he actually drank the beer. Oh, yeah, because if that gets on the camera, if TV has even a second of that, it's the scandal it never was.

Castellanos has had a very nice career and earned the contract that Dombrausky and Philadelphia gave him. But I will forever associate him with both the pandemic and the single funiest sports thing that happened during the pandemic This is a hard number of ingredients to have together, but it's a totally empty ballpark. It's the essential end of Tom Brenneman's broadcasting career because he's been caught on a live mic making a gay slur, and now he's apologizing for it, but also respecting the action, and nick Castellanos hitting a home run as Breneman is apologizing.

Castellanos to lead things off. Jim Day is going to be taking us the rest of the way through this game as Holland takes over on the mound. I made a comment earlier tonight that I guess went out over the air that I am deeply ashamed of. If I have hurt anyone out there, I can't tell you how much I say from the bottom of my heart, I'm so very, very sorry. I pride myself and think of myself as a man of faith as there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be a home run, and so that'll make it a four-nothing ball game. I don't know if I'm going to be putting on this headset again. I don't know if it's going to be for the Reds. I don't know if it's going to be for my bosses at Fox. I'm going to apologize for the people who signed my paycheck for the Reds, for Fox Sports, Ohio, for the people I work with, for anybody that I've offended here tonight. I can't begin to tell you how deeply sorry I am. That is not who I am and never has been.

And I'd like to think maybe I could have some people that could back that up. I am very, very sorry, and I beg for your forgiveness. Jim Day will take you the rest of the way home.

Do you realize how bad your luck has to be to be broadcasting the end of your career and have happened behind you the quietest home run ever hit in a Major League game. That home run, I want to play the whole thing again, and I just want you guys to notice both the sound of the bat, the sound of the bat, and also how quiet it is. You can't quite hear the ball rattling around in an empty left field, but how quiet it is after the sound of the bat, and he's trying to reach for the most heartfelt of the apology.

Castellanos to lead things off. Jim Day is going to be taking us the rest of the way through this game as Holland takes over on the mound. I made a comment earlier tonight that I guess, went out over the air that I am deeply ashamed of. If I have hurt anyone out there, I can't tell you how much I say from the bottom of my heart, I'm so very, very sorry. I pride myself and think of myself as a man of faith As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be a home run. And so that'll make it a four-nothing small game. That's so quiet. I don't know if I'm going to be putting on this headset again. I don't know if it's going to be for the Reds. I don't know if it's going to be for my bosses at Fox. I'm going to apologize for the people who signed my paycheck for the Reds, for Fox Sports, Ohio, for the people I work with, for anybody that I've offended here tonight. I can't begin to tell you how deeply sorry I am. That is not who I am and never has been.

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What can Castellanos do the rest of his career to make it so that that's not the first thing I think of whenever I think of Castellanos? Is there anything?

Nothing. He may have just done it with that Presidente in the dugout, I have to say. We won't even remember that in six months. The Brenerman call lives forever.

I wanted to ask you guys something based on what it is that Ernest Jones did earlier this week. The linebacker for the Seahawks introduced himself to many people by saying, If you have anything bad to say... This was at the parade. He's just saying, If you have anything bad to say about anybody on my team, bleep you. It had no subtlety in it as far as a message goes. He was just telling everybody who's a critic of his team, bleep you. But I wanted... Let's play that sound real quick for the people again, just so that they have the context of this, because there are middle fingers in the background. When you get to win the championship, you end up being the person with the last word on all things. In this instance, the last words are bleep you. But there's a Seahawk pantomiming, a spanking of a person, and they're feeling themselves here as Ernest Jones does this.

Shout out to these badass motherfuckers who play this game the right way. Not only do we have the best defense in the world, we got the best team in the world. Quite frankly, if you got anything to say for my quarterback, you got anything to say for my defense, you got anything to say for my own line, and you got anything to say by the city of Seattle, I got two words for you. You.

So not Very likable, unless perhaps you're a Seahaw fan. But the thing that I wanted to ask you guys about, because I mentioned this earlier and you guys said, Well, let's see what happens in the Super Bowl. We're in agreement, right, that by a factor of, I don't know how many, tens, hundreds, thousands, there is no Seahawks who's been more doubted than their quarterback, correct? I don't know what the factor would have to be on whoever is your second-place doubted Seahawks, but the one who's been publicly doubted the most is Sam Darnold, and didn't do any of that. Never did any of that in saying, You doubted me. F you. What about you? I showed you. There's no defiance in any of what he was doing as the most doubted among them. I understand why the Seahawks, I guess, would do that, although I don't feel like we were doubting anybody but their quarterback. It's not like there was a lot of poison spit at that defense. Everybody was talking all year about how good that defense is.

Yeah, and the funny thing to me is that Sam Darnold did not have a spectacular game. They didn't win because of Sam Darnold. It's pretty unusual for a Super Bowl winning quarterback to not be the MVP, but he wasn't. But still, he gets to bathe in the perfume of being a Super Bowl champion now. His whole status lifts. It lifts like helium, like a helium balloon.

But let's talk about for a second, though, what defiance would leak out of everyone listening to this and all the people here if there had been several organizations that didn't have a use for you, if there had been every week on television someone doubting you as the only thing that's going to hold that team back from actually winning the championship. The reason that that team was thought of as a team that could not win the championship was because of their quarterback. I find it interesting that for all the athletes who have a chip on their shoulder about that stuff and have to manufacture some everyone's against me, everyone's doubting me, I have to overcome it. Sam Darnold hasn't given voice to any of that. There hasn't been any acid spit at anybody after having to listen to a year or years of, You're not good enough. You're not good enough. In the moment that he wins, I would have expected some defiance to leak out. No matter how much of a veneer of, I'm the quarterback who's never going to bring any controversy, I would think in the moment of the emotion of, I proved everyone wrong.

None of that. It's surprising to me. It's legitimately surprising to me if that doesn't exist in him somewhere, and yet I'm left to wonder. Is he muffling it or does it really not exist? He understands the position's hard. He understands that a lot of things go into winning. He understands that he's 31 and 7 in his last 38 games. And no bleep you for anybody, for nobody? He's got no bleep you on any of the quotes. It's Ernest Jones out here introducing himself to us by telling everyone to bleep off when no one was questioning Ernest Jones or his teammates on the defensive side of the ball.

It's the most self-control. If it is being depressed and suppressed back into his psyche or into his ego, it is the most eaglest quarterback and the most eaglest professional athlete we've ever seen. Because if you've been on five different teams, if you were playing in a graveyard in Carolina, All of a sudden, you win the Super Bowl. You're one of the best quarterbacks the last two years.

Nobody's had a better record than you. You'd expect something to be said.

I haven't heard.

Have we seen him since? He was on the T-Cups. He was on the T-Cups with Kenneth Walker. That's where we saw him, but we haven't seen a whole lot of folks that have anything on him.

Yeah, and he wasn't looking real thrilled in that T-Cup. Nobody is. It makes you dizzy. Yeah, it does. But the disrespect was real. Right before the Super Bowl, somebody in the media, I can't recall who had a list ranking him the 12th best starting quarterback in the NFC, 12th best out of 16 teams. I like that he took the high road on that and let his teammates speak for him. I think there's a world where he's also self-aware and maybe just looks at the situation he was drafted into, thought, You know what? I did have an opportunity to succeed. I failed. I didn't do a good job. And now I've grown through all these different stops. I got opportunities to play. I got opportunities to grow. Now I had the best possible opportunity an incredible defense. And you know what? I led my team here, but I'm just grateful, not scorned. Yeah, I would have appreciated that honesty more than I would him now saying, That's for everybody who doubted me. F you. I don't need that. It's fine that a teammate stands up for him, but I like the high road that he's taken.

Okay, you can like the high road. I'm really asking the question about how rare it is because you just said disrespect. Sam Darnold, he's 31 and 7. Everybody else in that league, when they win, we say that's a quarterback stat. That's the reason they win. He's 31 and 7 over his last 38 games. So that's not merely winning. It's winning more than anyone in the sport has over the last two years. He's been disrespected. He's not absorbed that disrespect in a way that comes out as disrespect you. It's surprising to me. Validation is a very basic human need. Everyone likes applause for the winning to be enough for Sam Darnold and him not have any defiant bleep off. Just where competitive people reside. If you've ever met whoever is in your the most competitive person. Sam Darnold's more competitive than that. To do what those people do, the most competitive people in your life pale in comparison to the ones who win competitions against all the other most competitive people in the world. He gets disrespected throughout that for years. You're the reason your team can't win. Those weren't organizational failures with you. You're the organizational failure.

Now he gets to say, No, I'm not, and he doesn't. He can say, No, the Jets were wrong about me. Carolina was wrong about me. How many athletes are carrying themselves with the gratitude that doesn't leak out as defiance there? I don't even understand what Ernest Jones is defiant about. He's doing it in defense of Sam Darnold as if he is Sam Darnold. The person who is Sam Darnold is not doing that. To me, it would be a very human thing to have it leak out in places here and there where you're simply hurt that people didn't think more of you, and you would come out and feel the need to explain, Hey, I'm 31 and 7 in my last 38. You let the record speak for itself? I think he's doing that. You like that he's taking the high road. I don't hear a whole lot of people celebrating him for it. I don't hear a whole lot of people even noticing that that's tact that he's decided to take as a path.

Yeah, I think he's owning the Super Bowl ring as enough for him right now. I really do. I don't think he needs anything more than the satisfaction he gets from being on the mountaintop. I also think there's I tell you a part of him who realizes, I didn't win this game. My defense did. When you have the best defense in the league, you have a perceived crutch that you don't even require, maybe. But it is a crutch. Defense wins. The defense won Super Bowl for them. I'm the winning quarterback who didn't even win MVP because I was a little bit of a passenger. He had a lot of turnovers this season. He did, but he also gave Jackson Smith and Jigba the best season of a wide receiver in the last couple of years. He was a big part of that offense clicking and working with the running game, the scheme that they wanted to run with Click Kubiak. He was a very big part of it. Maybe the one sample size of the Super Bowl, yeah, the defense ended up winning that because they completely decimated the Patriots. But Sam Darnold had a big, big, big, big part Look, he beat the Rams.

He beat the MVP of the League. He was better than the MVP of the League. For all of his turnovers, that team was better in explosive plays than the great majority of them. And that can't be unless your quarterback is somebody who's producing those explosive plays. I'm telling you that among athletes that I've seen throughout time, I've seen very few doubted the way that Sam Darnold was, who get the victory moment and And don't allow any of the ego pride, champion, athlete defiance to come out as acid.

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