Transcript of NFL Week 4, Fastest 2 Minutes, The Vikings Are For Real, Do The Jets Have Problems, Joe Flacco Is Back And More

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Football we start in Atlanta, where Kadaral Hodge brought the team on a pilgrimage to Mecca, aka the end zone, for six to start the scoring after Rashid Shahid Wallace said, the ball don't lie in my hands. I don't want to be anyone other than what I've been as a running back lately. As taste some one Tree hill tried to get his team to an NFCW, but it was the Falcons with no timeouts left. Using the leg of life is a young way. I want to kick it 58 yards long to seal the victory for Atlanta. Falcons 26, Saints 24.

We go up to Wisconsin where the.

Packers got served a healthy dish of.

Green eggs and Sam, as Darnold said, I will only throw one interception today. I will throw three touchdowns past Green Bay.

Justin Jefferson Davis said, you can't cover.

My entire route, tree son. And the Vikings past succeeded against the packers depleted secondary. The Green Day packers in the month two and two, saying once again, wake me up when September ends.

The Vikings 31, the Packers 28. In Carolina, where Chupa Hubbard said, suck it, amigo. Running for over 100 yards in a touchdown, the Bengals went to the ATM and took out their chase card for pay dirt as Jamar and Brown scored three touchdowns combined. David Lepper looks like he had all the Panthers fingers and hands falling off as the Bengals win the battle of the Jungle Cats. Bengals 30, Bengals 34, Panthers 24 and we head out to the air. We stay in the NFC south, the Bucks and the Eagles. With our reporter Max Delinty, we head over to Tampa.

Tampa, where the Eagles officially suck. Rashad Whitley E. Goodman had the Eagles defense looking like average Joe's. Eagles fans have had enough of Bryce not so tough as he once again had another game with no tackles and no quarterback pressures. Darius Flay got cooked all day and went on to Twitter to talk about how many fucking Pro Bowls he has.

Nick Sirianni stinks.

This team stinks.

Bucks 33, Eagles 16.

Oh, thank you, Max. That was great. Ah, let's stick. Let's go to the AFC east with memes. Up in New York, we head to.

Medlife Stadium, where Zack Wilson wanted to soak in all the memories of days when the rain came with Robert Salalah. You can't coach. Hi, I'm Jaleel Sarah McLaughlin. Every Sunday, innocent jets fans are abused, beaten and neglected, and they're crying out for help. Please call the number on your screen right now to help a Jets fan today while I run all over your defense in the second half. Alec Lazard Baldwin needed proof that his gun was fake, but the refs didn't believe him, while Greg Sirloin was overcooked, leaving fans with a bad taste in their mouth. Broncos ten, jets nine.

Great job, memes.

We head over to Indy, where Anthony Richardson came out looking a little grungy and what's that sound? Flacco son, won't you come and wash away our pain? Flacco son, you're not done.

That was fun. Justin. How does it feels?

Was like a rolling stone into the end zone, scoring twice. Shane the rise and fall of the third Stike end wins this battle of two teams that used to look up to Arians.

Colts 27, the Steelers 24. In Chicago, where Colibril Williams and the Bears offense got swift boated as DeAndre had 16 John Kerry's for 93 yards and a touchdown. DJ Moore. More, more, Moore said. How do you like it? How do you like it? As he scored to give the Bears a second half lead, which was enough after Sean McVeigh went out like Moses leaning on his Stafford. Bears 24, rams 18. I should have said staff for bears 24, rams 18. Ah, out west in the afternoon, Henry.

Lockwood, we go down to San Jose. Jake mad eye Moody, I don't think.

You got the throw. He's okay. He's okay. Power through. Boom.

Throats not built.

Come on. Boom. Jake mad Eye Moody showed he had.

Aurora in the first quarter, knocking down two field goals to get the scoring going.

Fred Kurt Warner bagged an interception clean.

Off the bone of a Jacobi brusquette.

Throw, and he could go oh the way for a defensive touchdown. Brockham house party knighted Sir Gregor Clegane.

Kettle with a mountainous dime in the fourth quarter.

In the end zone and the quarter.

Of the end zone.

Quarter, corner, quarter, quarter.

And Jordan Mason Ramsey. Yo.

Lay ole ole his way into the.

End zone to cap off a 30 to 13 victory for the San Francisco Super 49 ers. Great job, Hank.

Down to Arizona, where Jaden Danielson took on Cobra Kyler Murray as Mister Jeremiagi McNichols swept the leg with two touchdowns. Bobby Wagner group might be a mercenary, but he helped the Commies put a putin their ass. Cliff King's member when he coached the Cardinals. Remember that? And then he put 42 on their head because I remember commander's 42, the colonel's 14.

Standing on the corner, Jamus Winston, Cuyahoga. Such a fine sight to see.

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Big cat.

Yeah.

I got two words for you.

Yeah.

You know what they are? Big d. Big D. Big d. Big d. That. It's like a stiff arm out there, that.

Big D. That's skip Bayless saying big dheenden. Derek Henry.

Yeah, the. The Raven. The Ravens, we knew, had an awesome, awesome rushing offense. Bill's rushing defense looks extremely suspect. Yeah, we kind of knew that a little bit, though. But they're getting big, boy. They're getting bullied around.

It was. Yeah, it's, it's one of those. The Bills coming back down to earth, the Ravens ascending back to what we expected preseason after an owen to start. There also is just nothing more intimidating than the Ravens going All Blacks in on a Sunday night game. I know at home it's just, it's.

Something about it under the lights. The all black uniforms are amazing. They should never wear the All Blacks in the. In the light of day.

Yeah. It adds like five points of strength to every player.

Yeah. There is, like, some studies that have been done that show that teams that we're red are more intimidating and, like, overall, they tend to win more. That might have been skewed because at the time the study was done, I think Man United was like rolling off six epls or whatever it was.

And the Chiefs in Georgia.

And the Chiefs. Yeah, and Georgia. But, yeah, the all black uniforms, if they're on a good team, they make that good team better.

Yes, I agree. I agree.

All right, so Lamar Jackson is good now that he's no longer a fat ass like apparently he was last year.

Yeah, he's slender man, and he's killing it. And yet Derek Henry is. I mean, he's. Seven yard touchdown. I did not think Big D had an 87 yard touchdown still in his bag.

That's the crazy part is he weighs, what, like 250 pounds?

Maybe. Yeah.

And nobody could catch him.

No one could catch him.

Chasing down it was shocking.

Yeah. So we'll, we'll put a bow on it when the game goes final, but the Ravens dominate. And it was one of those nights where Josh Allen was nothing. He wasn't fully crisp. Josh Allen. And we had the disaster play where everything went wrong when they look like they were going to get back in the game and they did. What even was that play? It was like he was out wide and then they, they lateral the two.

They got cute with it is what they got.

Way too cute with it.

With it. They, they lateral to him. He tried to bomb it, he got strip sacked, and then he also got a dome piece. To the dome piece.

Yeah, dome piece to the dome piece.

All right, so docking.

Let's start with hand up. I was wrong. Derek Henry just fumbled into the end zone and I don't know what the pile is. All right, we'll stop updating this game. But I was wrong. I thought that the packers would win this game. Vikings 31, Packers 29. I am now officially ready to take the Vikings for real. I needed this win for them to take them fully for real. And Sam Darnold I, maybe he's just different now because the game started and he tried to throw an interception on like the second pass of the game. It, someone just dropped it on the packers. He threw it right, Adam. And then from that point forward, I think he started like ten of 13, 130 yards and three passing touchdowns and they were up 28 to nothing in a blink of an eye.

Yeah. He was doing this without Addison and without Hawkinson. He got Addison back. And having Addison out there makes a big difference, too, for that offense.

Yes.

I actually think that the Minnesota Vikings are. I'm going to, I'm going to say they're for real.

They are for.

I heard a couple people, I heard some national, some talking heads, Teddy Brusky saying this is going to be a true colors game for Sam Donald, where he's going to show his true colors back to being old Sam. He is anti Sam etic. I am not anti semitic. I believe in Sam. I believe more so I think it's a perfect fit for him.

Yeah. It's. The receivers are incredible. Sam Darnold is not all of a sudden a top three quarterback, but he is playing like a top three quarterback. And the receipt. He has some of the best. I mean, Justin Jefferson is the best receiver in football.

Yeah. He's got great weapons, he's got a great system, great head coach. And he's, he is playing well. I don't want to take anything away from. No, I'm not like thought experiment. If the season ended today, he might not be MVP, but he would be maybe second or third for MVP season ends today.

MVP.

Because going into tonight, it was like Josh Allen.

It was Josh Allen. Nico Collins.

I think you have to talk about Jaden Daniels.

Jaden Daniels. That's why you did this. That's exactly why he did this. I didn't think about it. That's exactly why he did this conversation.

Not true. But once I started, I felt for the trap.

Good touche.

Once I started going, well, I was, wait a second, wait a sec. It's, it's completely well done. Listen, it's foreign to me to have somebody that I could say that about that wouldn't be considered utter joke. So I'm not planning, I don't know enough about how to, how to act like I've been there before because I've never been there before. So I'm, I'm not laying traps for anybody.

But I thought it was a good trap.

It was a good trap. But I think Sam Darnold would be in that conversation.

This is good because Max is starting to get a little.

I think it'd be lower kind of shaking, though, now that you bring it up.

Well, Sam Donald, good point. Hey, Sam Donald is the first QB, he's the first QB to win to start four. No. And have at least two passing touchdowns in each of his first four starts. That's crazy. He's, he's been playing incredible. Justin Jefferson is a maniac. Hit that. Not even the touchdown pat catch that he caught like with one hand against his chest. The catch he made at the end of the game, like it was, I think it was late fourth quarter along the sideliness. Sam Donald kind of led him too far. I don't understand the guy. Like, his body control is so out of this world to get that extra foot down. It's. He's just so, so good. He's so much better than everyone else. And again, not taking anything away from Sam Donald, but Justin Jefferson is just that special. And this game was. They jumped all over him. My question for you, pft is, does Malik Willis win this game?

So that's a good question, big cat.

Thank you.

I've come the other way around.

Yeah.

Now I think that Malik Willis is the best fit for that offense. Jordan Love, I think, came back a little too soon. Yeah, I think he's rushing himself a little bit. He probably, he saw Malik out there. He's like, I don't want to lose my job to Malik Willis, but tell you what, out. In terms of, in terms of Jordan Love, I think we should turn it over to somebody who's actually been there before. Walked a mile in those shoes to hear his thoughts. Because Jordan Love got open lettered after the game. Dear Jordan, just reminder that one game, one play or one pass doesn't define you. Way to show resilience today. You have a long career ahead. Just keep going forward. Number four.

So he wore a Brett Favre jersey going into the game today. He also, in a touching tribute to Brett Favre, was the first packers quarterback to have four touchdowns and three interceptions since Brett Favre lasted it in 1999.

That's amazing.

That's pretty cool. That's a touching tribute.

And also, like Brett Favre, he wasn't looking out for his own welfare. Yes, because he rushed himself back to too soon.

The remember we used to joke about the Joshua Rosen stat line where he would go like twelve for 17 for 103 yards. Jordan Love. And no touchdowns, no interceptions. Jordan Love had whatever the opposite of that is. He had the fullest day possible. He went 32 for 54 389 yards, four touchdowns, three picks.

Yeah, there we go.

You felt them.

There we go.

You felt his presence in the game.

It was good to see him back out there.

No, he got hot in the second half. I mean, the end of the game, he was red hot.

Second half was all packers. Yeah, it was all packers. So the Vikings were happy that they built up, what was it, a 28 to nothing 28?

Nothing like.

And then, and then there was that. Was it a muff punt? So many muff punts today. Yeah, muff punts left and right. But at the end of the half, the, the packers got a score and then it was all packers after that.

Shout out. Matt Lafleur, who actually did the correct thing and went for two, down 14.

Yes. Yes. He was biggest, big on the math today. So it was, it was a closer game than we're probably making out to seam. But I still think that Sam Donald, he's a big reason why this Vikings team is where they're at. They have probably the best weapons.

Oh, I agree.

Any team in the NFC. But also, he's done a great job. And there's something about a quarterback that has to go through such absolutely shitty situations where when they finally get to a place that's steady, they just love it so much more. And so he's, Sam Donald, seen some shit in his career. Yeah, he's seen some real shit with Adam Gaseous then with the Panthers. And then he kind of got nursed back a little bit. Foster home. He got foster home by Kyle Shanahan. Now maybe his guys forever home.

He, I'm sure we'll have one game or Sam, old Sam Darwin will come back. But I do believe in Sam Darnold going forward. I do. I do. I mean, they're playing great ball. Their defense is great. They blitzed to great effect against Jordan Love today. As for the packers. Yeah, I think you rushed Jordan love back. Should have done that.

You might have also. The packers were down two great corners. They were so. They were.

And Jair Alexander, he likes playing against Justin Jefferson. I feel like Justin Jefferson. Well, Justin Jefferson beats everyone.

Yeah.

So that's not really, you know, a shot at Jair Alexander, but that was a big piece of the packers playing really good defense in the first three weeks of the season under Jeff Hafley. But Jordan love, I hope he doesn't, I hope he didn't find his groove. I think he found his groove second. I think that fourth quarter, he found his groove. That's, that makes me scared.

He looked better, for sure. In the second half.

Yeah.

If the season did end today, I would say Kevin O'Connell, probably coach of the year. Kevin O'Connor. Kevin O'Connell.

O'Connell.

O'Connor.

O'Connell. You nailed it the first time. Kevin O'Connell, coach of the year, probably, yes. I'm trying to.

I think going into today, you could have made an argument for Matt Lafleur.

Andy Reid, maybe.

Andy Reid says just always. Yeah, but that's the thing. Like, you can't be dominant and win coach of the year.

Todd Bowles, and they just had the roughs.

Maybe Dan Quinn.

It's a little. He's trapping us again. He's trapping us good. If the season ended today with the commanders being the playoffs.

Yeah. They'd actually win the division.

There you go.

Is that interesting?

That is interesting. Good fact.

Yeah.

Okay, next game, or do we have anything else on this game? Oh, one thing I got right about this game was an offseason thought Aaron Jones is. Is really good, and I don't know why that triangle happened. Yeah.

Very strange.

I mean, I said in the time I was. I understand Josh James. Good, but Aaron Jones is a really good running back, and he proved it today. He had, like, 139 yards total, and, yeah, he's good.

It was sad.

He didn't.

He didn't get to do the Lambo leap because he was going to try to do it. If he scored, I think he might have done it after the game, but that's. That's a different lambo leap.

How much is Aaron Jones getting paid? He's getting paid one year, 7 million. And how much is Josh Jacobs being paid? Let's find that out.

He only gets 7 million a year.

Yeah. That's what I just saw.

Running backs, man.

Josh Jacob is getting paid 14 and a half. No, you. Four year, 48 million. So 1212 million a year. I don't know. Aaron Jones for seven.

Yeah. Would you rather have.

I guess they didn't want to give him the long term deal.

Josh Jacobs or are like one and four fifths. Aaron Jones's.

Yeah. Tough. Tough call. That's why we're not the. Aaron Jones is 29 years old, so that does complicate things. Like, you can't. Yeah, I think that was part of it is Josh Jacobs is 26. You can give him a four year deal that you could probably cut him after two years. Aaron Jones, he probably wanted more years, and that's hard for a 29 year old running back. Yeah.

I still think. I mean, Aaron Jones was. He was good last year. He's been good in Green Bay his entire career.

Yeah. Okay, next up, Falcons 26, Saints 24. This is a game the Saints are really, really going to be kicking themselves if they're sitting outside the playoffs the end of the year because they held the Falcons to zero offensive touchdowns and still lost, 26 24.

Yeah, it's tough to do the last time that a team lost a game when they scored 24 points or more and gave up zero offensive touchdowns. Any guesses?

Never.

No. It's happened. It's happened before, but the last team that did it was in 1983. You have to go all the way back to 1983 and it was the Saints. Oh, it was also the Saints, the ain't. And we've got, we've got a new big stats are for losers guy.

Okay.

Raheem Morris dropped. The stats are for losers on the press after the game, they asked him how come Kyle Pitts didn't get involved at all, which he didn't. I don't think he had a single reception. I don't think he had a single yard. And he said, you know, in my opinion, stats, they're for losers.

I honestly think. Well, I love that, by the way. We always need more. Stats are for losers. Coaches out there, I think that you could convince me that somehow Arthur Smith's, like, game plan was left in Raheem Morris's office this morning and like, like there was just an old game plan from last year that he picked up because Bijon only had two rushes in the second half.

Yeah.

And Tyler Algier had more head, like eight.

Yeah, Tyler, it was a hot hand with rock, so they kept going to him.

It was, it was seriously, like last year, Falcons, like, what, what is happening right now? I was starting to buy and the Falcons won this game, but I was starting to buy into the Falcons are fun. This is different than last year. Like, this is going to be a lot of fun. It's not going to be a bummer. Kirk Cousins is a significant step up from Desmond Ritter. But, yeah, I was like, what? What's going on? Their offense just didn't look good today, but special teams and a pick six. But I did it for him.

I can guarantee if Desmond Ritter played this game, they would have lost.

Yeah, I'd agree.

He probably would have screwed it up more than Kirk Cousins.

I don't even. Is he on a team?

Was he on, is he on the Cardinals?

I think he was, but then I don't think he made the roster.

They get cut.

I think he was. That's never a good thing. Oh no, he's, yeah, he's on the Cardinals.

All I want to know from the, from the Falcons, where was this performance? Where's this defense during Arthur's. Arthur blank commemorative cup night?

Yeah, seriously. Well, it was there. The Chiefs just stole it from you.

Can'T show up for your owner on commemorative cup night.

This is a ball bounces game for me where like the or ball don't lie. The Chiefs game. The Falcons probably played to a level they should have won this game. The Saints probably played to a level they should have won, but the Falcons won it. So kind of evened out. But now who would you say so I, boxer obviously won.

Yep.

And they just played. But who going forward you believe in the Falcons more than the Saints? I tend to think that.

I don't know. I don't know. I think, I think they're very, very even. So when this game is played in New Orleans later on this year, I think the Saints right now, the entire series between these two teams, it's now 56 55 for the Falcons.

Perfect.

So life finds a way. I feel like the Saints will win the next one, but they're very, I don't want to say they're similar teams, but I think they're equally sneaky lucky. Good.

Let me throw this out there for you. Saints hot start. Looked awesome. Have to compliment the two and o the way they did it. Bryce Young Panthers maybe one of the worst teams of all time. Bryce Young Panther different team, not Andy Dalton Pantherse and the Cowboys might not be that good.

The Cowboys might stink.

So 20 can't, can't apologize for two.

And oh, it was an impressive 20.

But they just found a way in both these games the last week with the Eagles and this week with, with the Falcons where their defense played well and they just couldn't find a way.

To win, I think.

So the offense that we were saying like holy shit has changed everything is like, where is that after week two.

We were, we were crowning their asses.

Oh, you have to.

Yeah, it was a, it was a good two and oh, the most, the most dangerous lead hockey, though. Listen, maybe the NFL, if we were.

Ever going to rename this podcast, it would just be the knee jerk podcast because whatever happened 2 hours ago is the thing that I think is going to keep happening for the rest of time. And then I'm shocked when something different happens.

Yeah, that's, that's a fact. So Kirk had the quote of the day, I think after, after the game was over, they talked about the rivalry it was his first experience in a Saints Falcons game, which I saw, like four or five videos of fights in the stands. Yeah, these were different fights.

Yeah.

There was head stomping going on.

Yeah.

There was, like, some brutal, brutal shit that might have been Falcon on Falcon crime.

Well, you also have to remember that now that Arthur Blank's name is up in the rafters. You have to put on for your owner.

You got.

He's watching.

You have to defend that house.

God is watching. Yeah. Arthur Blank is watching you fight and try to bash someone's brain in, in the 300 level of the Mercedes Benz dome. Yeah.

So they, they asked Kirk Cousins about the rivalry afterwards, and they said, did you hear them when they were playing swag surfing?

Yeah.

Kirk said, yeah. They're playing that song about the swagger, the surf.

This is.

I was like, this is pretty sweet.

It's exactly what I expected.

Yeah. Perfect. Perfect answer from Kirk Cousins. I wanted there should be a travel show where Kirk Cousins just gets experienced, like, atlantic culture.

Yeah.

Watching him do it.

Yeah. I would. I would watch that every day of the week.

Sort of magic City.

Who's, who do the saints have next week? Mmm, let's find out. Let's play whose line is anyway. Can you give it to me, Hank, you give it to me. You got it. Who do they got, Hank? You should just be on. On Conc. Whose line is anyway duty? The chiefs. Oh, where?

Oh, wait, no, they might have a buy. Oh, their next. Where the Chiefs at? Kansas City.

I forgot we have buys.

Monday, October 7, bro.

Yeah. Monday, October 7, bro on bro.

Bad map at the Chiefs.

Yeah. Saints at Chiefs.

Chiefs minus five.

I'm going to say chiefs.

Ooh. Four and a half.

Six and a half.

Final answer.

Four and a half.

Is Chiefs minus five and a half.

All right. I am actually surprised. When I said six and a half, I thought to myself, that's too high, you dummy. But I would think that it would be lower than that given the injuries for the Chiefs.

That's where I went. Five to four and a half?

Yeah.

Okay. The model, our advanced analytical model in our brands.

Knowing these two franchises, I'm just going to take Chief's money line. Just let the chips fall with it, man. It feels like Saints my cover, but Chiefs money line.

Yeah, I can't, I can't. I don't think I can picture the New Orleans Saints playing in Kansas City.

Has that ever happened in the history of the NFL?

There's so many matchups that you obviously know, but this one is one where it's like, wait, this doesn't make sense.

Yeah, like, have the Jaguars ever played the Giants?

No. In London maybe. Yeah, for sure. But yeah, that. The Saints at the Chiefs. I'm trying to think there's a game. Keep on.

2016 was the last time.

Whoa. Okay, well, I guess that makes sense.

Probably as long ago as it's possible. Yeah.

Yeah. I shouldn't have acted responsible. Surprised. That's exactly how schedules go in the NFL. Every. Every eight years. You play at the other team. State.

Yeah.

Okay, next game. What do you have, Hank? You had something for us?

No, you're right. The eight years.

Because.

Wait, 2016.

They also wanted to is.

Who are the quarterbacks? Was it Alex Smith and. Oh, Drew Brees?

Yeah.

Yeah, that was easy. Drew. Brenda.

Alex Smith.

That was a dumb, dumb thing to say. Okay, next up, bears 24, rams 18. Bears might be back.

Congratulations.

Thank you. Felt good.

Yeah. I'm going to agree with you, big cat. The Bears offensive line is bad. Yeah, it's bad.

Really bad.

So Jade or Caleb, when he's making. When he's dropping back to pass, he is having to make a decision within like half a second.

It's pretty insane.

Have to run backwards, get rid of the ball earlier. Or maybe, just maybe they're going to hold up for enough time for him to hit somebody in a slant.

It's pretty crazy. He had a clean game, no interceptions, had some really nice. The throw to DJ Moore was awesome. The throw to Cole Comet over the middle was awesome. He's 69% completion percentage last two weeks moving forward 93 seven rating. My big thing is, apparently during the week, players had a basically intervention with Shane Waldron said you have to be more aggressive. Good. Caleb Williams, Mercedes Lewis. I think Cole Khmet was there. Be more aggressive with their coach, their offensive coordinator. Yes. Yeah. It's good times. Hey, listen, you have.

You have negatively affected my career in the following ways.

Here's the thing, Hank, put it into perspective, okay? This is all about perspective. Our offensive coordinator hasn't had to leave the team and be fired, slash resigned from the team. And then there's reports that the FBI is staking out his house, which happened last year with our defensive coordinator around this time. So these are baby steps.

He's still here because I was about.

To say that kind of a bad thing, though.

No, it's a good thing.

You want him as speaker two.

I do want him gone, but I don't want. I'd rather our coordinators not have to resign and be suspected of crimes.

Big cat doesn't want to have guys. But if you break into him out.

On a crime, you would probably take it.

Yes. Yes.

I assume that depends on what kind of yes.

Also. Yes.

Mm hmm.

He put me under the gun there. Yeah, that was, that wasn't fair, but yeah.

Cuz I was about to say I'm glad they had the intervention because I think that Caleb might be reaching the point where he needs to just like, take bad play calls and be like, fuck this guy. I'm not running this play.

He did that a couple times today. Yeah.

As a rookie. It's hard to reach that place especially. He wants to be like a good quarterback. He wants to be somebody that's easy to work with. So he probably doesn't want to fuck with anybody right off the bat. But it was so bad at the start of the season that he at some point needs to say, like, we're not going to do what this guy says.

They actually do give him, like, a lot of autonomy at the line and he's calling stuff and getting out of stuff. The other thing is the Bears actually could run the ball today. DeAndre Swift turns out to make DeAndre Swift good again. We just had to have an entire week of the entire Internet saying he, the guy fucking sucks.

Yeah, bullying works. He got Reggie Bush's heisman back and now Deandre Swift. Swift is running to open daylight.

Yeah, he had more yards today than he had weeks one through three combined. And he had a nice touchdown run also. Shane Waldron realized that, hey, this is where I say baby steps. He's learning from his mistakes. Last week when we had the abomination of goal line where we did a pitch play to the short side on fourth down, and we ran everything out of shotgun and Wildcat. This week we actually ran from under center with our backup center running his full back and Roshan Johnson, who's a big back, running it. Running back. And it worked.

That was an awesome block, by the way. Yeah, Doug Kramer took him out. He. Is he from Chicago? I think he might be from the Chicago area.

Yeah, I mean, he was like, I basically, he doesn't get in unless there's kneel downs. He's like, I fucking just want to help the team.

Yeah, he looks like a long.

He's from Hinsdale.

He looks like a long lost O'Doyle twin to. Yeah, just a big dude with a big round face coming at you downhill. And I think the key to DeAndre Swift is don't make him change direction in the backfield on a cut. If he can be hitting a hole going, like, straight, in a perfectly straight line through a hole. Then he'll just outrun and take better angles than everybody in the secondary. Yes, but don't ask him to juke out a defensive lineman.

Right. He can't do that. Also, the Bears had back to back touchdown drives today. Pre progress. These are. I mean, now the Rams are very, very injured, and I kind of expected the Bears to win this game just because you had the kitchen sink game last week, and I gave that stat on Friday. Teams that come back and win a game, down 14 in, like, the second half, they're just terrible against the spread. So the defense stepped up and stopped Stafford with, you know, strips, a fumble, a pick at the end. I was just happy. It was fun watching the Bears win at home. And we haven't even gotten to the real mvp of this game, Tory Taylor, who's a fucking weapon.

That one punt, I think. I think I clocked it at 85 yards in the air.

He won this game for the Bears in the end, because at the end of the game, when you're. When you have to, you know, we're up less than a touchdown, and you're trying to get your. You know, you can't get first downs, can't run the ball, don't have a good offensive line. You need to keep giving them long fields and hoping that your defense will stand up. He had five punts, three of them inside the 20, and then he had the one in the fourth quarter, a 66 yard punt to the eight yard line.

You can't go wrong getting a punter from Iowa or a tight end from Iowa.

Yep.

It's two things. They do well there.

Yeah. But that. He is an absolute weapon. Like, I'm. I don't want to punt, but I'm excited to see how far he can punt every time he punts.

And that punt that checked up was the thing. Beauty, too.

Yeah.

The backspin on it. Put the English on it.

He's a weapon.

It was nice to watch.

How you like that, Hank.

Now a punter.

Now I'll wait. I want.

I want you to finish.

Okay.

I was just gonna say. Meme said something shocking to me today. He said, it's so funny how Sean McVeigh can only coach well against Kyle Shanahan.

Yeah.

And I was like, wait, wait a second.

It's the opposite.

It's the opposite. And also, Sean McPhee is a really good coach.

Yeah.

He won a Super bowl that aren't. Kyle Shanahan.

Yeah. Memes. He won a Super bowl, memes. He's been to two.

I know, but this season. Oh, so if the Rams only two wins were against the 49 ers this season, it'll be very funny.

But they've. Okay, so you should have said small sample size. Pft. But it is funny that Sean McFay can only coach against Kyle Shanahan this season.

He didn't have any more plays. He used all his plays last week.

He used everything.

The man was playlist.

He had no kitchen. He had everything but the kitchen sink. Yeah or no. Yeah, he could think out of the.

Socket and threw it out.

He could restock sinks going sockets.

The only thing he had six are socket plug in a sink.

The six Thursday. I got a lot of people. Could you still go in sockets?

Oh, that's out there. Came after you. Yeah, no, he still had the kitchen sink. That's the thing.

Yeah, but he had nothing else.

Can't score touchdowns, right.

You just wash your hands or piss in it. Hank.

Will, I finished after the game, the bears tweeted out, which I agree with as someone who is a advocate for the double fist pump celebration.

Oh, yeah.

See this? There was a lipid of Caleb Williams walking off the field. He was doing the double fist pump and I tweeted it. I've caught into non parcel Awl Twitter because people are like, God can't even celebrate you're coming at him. But then a lot of people trashing him saying this is like a yippee, yippee ki ass celebration.

Yippee kai.

Your thoughts as someone who roasted someone for the double fist bump Selly.

Yeah, for some reason it was cool when he did it. I don't know. Well, feels different when he did it first. When you did.

I see a commonality between the two bonus winners.

Yeah, winners.

Winners. We want to know about that because we haven't won anything. But yeah, hanks all over that.

No, it looks awkward. Can't do the double fist pump and not look awkward. It's impossible.

It's kind of like a six year old.

Yeah, six year old.

A. Guess what, guess what sport we're going for. Ice cream.

People are watching the podcast right now.

Yeah, raw emotion. That's what it is.

You control your raw emotion. Usually looks bad. Like when you do something that very.

Athletic, usually when like a cool guy.

Does it, when you do something is very like animalistic. It's usually not a good thing. Yeah.

The thing about it is it's the jumping into the double fist pump that looks awkward. The double fist pump. That's a cool move. Anybody can do that. But when you take like a leap into it and then in midair, you start doing the fist pump. It needs, looks a little weird.

It needs to be, it needs to basically stay like, like you're using shake weights. Yeah. Where it's like almost a flex in a double fist bump. But when you, when you go like that. Yeah.

And PFT is right with like jumping and extending at the same time, which.

Is what you did as well.

Maybe if you thought about next time you try to.

It was, I thought it was getting like that might work.

Hey, I got a question.

Yep, question of the week.

The question of the week, actually, you know, robot question rho back.com promo code, take 20% off your first purchase. Cue zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback calm. Promo code, take 20% off your first purchase. Why don't you talk about dunking anymore?

Oh, good question.

I'm training. I'm training.

But why haven't you brought up dunking? Because you were very much gung ho. I'm going to dunk. And I haven't heard you have any sort of confidence in like three months. Did you think we'd forget?

I have not forgotten. I have trained.

Max, please.

Robot question as well.

Yeah, go ahead, Matt.

Robot question.

At what point do we start to think about shooting?

Oh, cuz, what was the thing you had to do?

I'm still thinking about dunking. I've trained four days a week for the last five weeks. I'm like 25 threes in a row.

He said. Really bad takes about shooting recently, Max.

Yeah, true.

I did an evaluate, like an evaluation at my gym at the end of August, and it was not as much progress as I hope. So I said, I'm gonna, you know, keep my head down. I've trained hard for the last five.

Oh.

So I haven't checked since, but I'm still, I'm still going gung ho. I still plan to dunk. I'm still training as if I'm going to dunk. I have not stopped just because I haven't talked about it. I have not stopped. I still think I'm going to do it.

Pft. Robot question extension.

Yeah. Hoodies, joggers, shorts. Hank. Pft comments are part of my take podcast. You had alluded to this being the time of year where if you weren't making the progress that you wanted to, you would turn to the dark needle of steroids. Have you begun doing that? Or is, is it something that's in your imminent future.

So again, like, I haven't talked about it because I don't talk about steroids. I don't want to get ahead of myself. I mentally had a bad evaluation at the end of August. I've gone hard for the last five weeks. I'll probably check again in the beginning of October and then, depending where I'm at, is when. So the steroid decision is coming in the next two weeks.

Okay. Just look at the calendar. Big. This might pertain to your question as well. It's September 30 on Monday. 30 days have September. It is, in fact, October this week.

Correct.

So we're moving that timetable up.

What do you talk.

I just.

I just said.

I said a couple weeks in the next big cat robot question.

Robot question rho back.com Henry, when you say the words, I had a bad evaluation. How far away are you from Duncan?

Six inches.

Six inches from dunking or six inches from the rim?

Six inch from dunking.

You think I'm six from six standing up?

Yes.

He's a piece. Six inches. So six inches in three months.

Yeah.

Oh, hopefully.

Hopefully, hopefully. I've got two.

Boy, we got to get on the stairway.

I've gotten to. It's gotta be the end of August.

Can you touch the rim?

Yes.

Yes, you can. You can. I've seen it. I've witnessed it.

Okay.

Oh, you even fucking jump do.

Yeah.

Raise your hand.

Yeah, raise your hand.

Is that a triple xl or quad swimming?

If it's a triple or quad, make sure it's roback calm.

This is a two. This is a two.

I mean, sure. He's wearing today.

It's an old.

It's a stand up, Max. I want to see it.

Hank, don't.

Don't fitting shirt.

Oh, that's not bad.

Big shirt.

It's like a moomoo. Sure.

Hey, don't talk about what you think. The last thing that he dunked was.

It's a two x. You want to see it? You want to come and.

Come and look at it?

You want to see the tag?

I believe you.

All right, so you're gonna start shooting?

No, not yet. Okay, I'm gonna dunk. I'm gonna dunk. I've never trained harder for anything in my life.

Golf, I was gonna say, like, I trained hard for rough or, like, sats. Yeah. How'd you cheat?

I was in my home room. I knew the person I was moderating at the teacher, so I knew he wasn't gonna, like, bust me. I got. I couldn't fit. Focus after the first, like, whatever hour, 2 hours was so fucking long. And I could, I knew the girl that was dying lay in front of me. She was way smarter than me. I had like enough time and I wasn't worried about getting like caught and in trouble. Cuz I knew the guy at worst would just be like, hey, you know, put your head back down. So I was able to just read her whole test and I made the decision. I was like, I'm pretty sure we have the same test. I'm just gonna copy all our answers for the scantron, like multiple test part. And if I'm wrong, I'll do the sats again because everyone else usually does them multiple times. Got like a, I think 1500 was average at the time. I got a 1450. Was, was perfectly good with that. Never did them again.

Was a writing part.

Yeah, but for the, for the multiple choice, like, I just got, I couldn't, I couldn't do it anymore. And I was just like, was able to read all of her questions. I was like, I'm pretty fucking sure.

We had think smarter, not harder.

Yeah.

When did they change the.

Just kidding, mom.

It was just a prank. So is the steroids. Yeah. The prank.

Yep, yep.

We're just, we. This is actually the robot prank section of the show. Mm hmm. All right.

Just got grunt.

That was our bears. There's gonna be people who are gonna see the timestamps, like, fucking talked about the bears so long. Actually, half of it was just steroids and Hank.

It's a good window.

Yeah, it was a good win. Feels good. Feels good. And we have some schedule. Not sketch. I'm not gonna say schedule wins. It's hard to win in this league, but the bears have some games coming up that they should potentially win. Most notably panthers, jaguars, no longer commanders, and then cardinals. Patriots.

Yeah.

Four out of the next five.

Yes, sir. Stacking them.

Should be able to. This should be a three and two, four and one type stretch, hopefully.

I think that's realistic.

Yeah. Okay. Colts 27, Steelers 24. Joe Flacco.

Flacco's back, baby. Flacco's back big time.

Before we get to Flacco, who was good. Big third down. Throws like Joe. Joe Flacco. Just a third down. Like third and ten. Gimme Joe Flacco. Is Shane Steichen trying to get Anthony Richardson hurt?

So what happened was he got, he got injured the play before he got injured.

He got injured with a hip, oblique, came out for a couple snaps, came back in and Shane Steichen was like, sick QB run. Yeah.

For a guy that gets a lot of credit being a great play caller, that seemed like it was. It was, like, a little bit intentional. He came back in for a QB run, took a shot to the head. Was it a concussion that put him out?

No, I think it was a hip oblique. Oh, yeah. Oh, the concussion after the second hit that he got, I don't know, but I think there might have been a conspiracy to have Joe Flacco in, which I'm for, because Joe Flacco should be playing in the NFL. Joe Flacco said after the game. Very funny. He said they asked if he thinks that Anthony Richardson thinks he's cool. He said, I'm eight days older than his mom, so there's no way he thinks I'm cool.

Yeah.

Little perspective for you.

I like that. Joe Flacco, in my opinion, he is cool.

Yeah.

Joe Flacco is the coolest. He looked good. He still has that arm. And if you're a Browns fan, what the fuck are you? The Cleveland Browns run like Joe Flacco going out there and winning this game. Baker Mayfield being dominant at the exact same time. If you're a Browns fan, you're watching this early slate and you're like, what the fuck? Yeah, why do we. Why did we keep doing that?

Why did we. And you have Jamis.

Yeah.

You got James B. I. Joe Flacco. Like outs. Obviously, the RPOs are big for an. Anthony Richardson's legs are a big part of his game, but in terms of.

The deep bombs, he's the same thing.

Joe Flacco.

Flacco uncorked one today. It almost hit the roof. Yeah, I think it might have touched the roof. It was. Granted, it was under thrown by, like, three yards, which was kind of the Joe Flacco special. He had.

Oh, yeah.

Deep under throws where you draw a pass interference, but this one that he threw, it came down with a teardrop of God on it. It went so high up in the air and just arc down. It's a beautiful thing. He's aged like a wine.

Yeah, he's.

It's beautiful.

And it was. It was tough for Anthony Richard because he actually came out and I. His first drive was really good. Like, I think he came, he went right down the field on the Steelers and then got hurt. But I. Yeah, I. I don't know. The Steelers, like, defense, I talked about on Friday that I. I feel like we've maybe crowned them a little bit too early. They're very good, but they also played some not great quarterbacks. And now that to play Joe Flacco, he won a Super bowl. He's elite.

He knows the Steelers.

He knows the Steelers. So. And in a weird twist of fate, Justin Fields, who I think has played well in the first three weeks, maybe not incredible, but the defense carried him. This week. The defense faltered and Justin Fields had his best game.

Yeah. There were some times when he did not look that good. He was like, really? Really? It was patchy form. There were some times when he, like, around the goal line, when he can just run and knock one dude over on his way into a touchdown. He's still very good at that. And he still can make more throws, I think, than the Steelers have seen recently.

Yeah. I mean, he had 312 yards.

Yeah. But there. There were some stretches of the game, there always are, where it looked a little bit dicey for him. He was, like, double clutching a lot. Big wind up, taking too much time in the pocket. But overall, he was not the problem. Today, I think the Steelers defense, I want to be. I want to be careful with how I say this, because we like TJ Watt, and he's a dominant player, one of the best defensive players in the NFL. He loves to just go immediately to where he thinks the quarterback is going to be on a five step drop.

Yeah.

Like, he leaves a pretty big gap there sometimes that you can just exploit and run.

JJ is going to.

I said this to Jersey Jerry. I said, no, no.

JJ Watt.

Oh, JJ Watt.

Say, you don't know.

Ball two. Jj's.

Yeah, you're gonna get double J. I.

Can take on JJ Watt. Maybe not Jersey Jerry, if he's pissed off, but I. But TJ, he leaves a big gap there, so.

Yeah, I think he bought a gun.

Did you?

What? No. Jersey Jerry.

He did? Yeah. He's got a red dot, but a.

Red dot on it.

Yeah. Yeah.

Also one of the. One of the weirdest things to just walk in and him just being like, yeah, I got a gun.

Yeah.

Okay.

He was like, if I just. If I just showed it to jack on a stream, you think I get suspended? And I was like, yeah, maybe I'd.

Rather not have a handgun on the stream.

Yeah. But he's got permits, so it's all good. Also, George Pickens had one of the dumbest fumbles I've ever seen. He just kind of twisted around and he kept the ball outstretched for no reason. It got knocked out. Easy fumble. He also. He also extended the ball at one point on, like, the 25 yard line as he was being tackled. He had already gotten a first down by a significant margin by like 510 yards. And he extended the ball to get like an extra yard in the open field as he was being tackled.

Yeah.

With Pickenshe, he also had a bad drop, but it's reached the point where I would not be shocked if at some point his career, George Pickens made like a one handed leaping grab, got turned around midair, sprinted the wrong way, scored a safety, and then got a taunting penalty celebrating before he realized it wasn't a touchdown.

I wouldn't, I wouldn't put it back.

He just does crazy shit every week. He's fun to watch, and he's just, he's an insane talent at wide receiver, but this guy is nuts.

Yeah. So do you think the Colts are gonna roll with Joe Flacco for a while?

They might be that. Listen, Joe will, I said, he's like a nice wine. Not in that he's aging, but even if you don't like whites, you have to admit he's cool and he's refreshing.

Yes, he's very refreshing. I would like to have Joe Flacco play a little bit, maybe get the Colts to play. What if Joe Flacco, just like the last half of his, or last three years of his career, he just goes to random organizations and takes them to the playoffs?

That would, that would rock. Are we going to have a Andy Dalton, Joe Flacco matchup at some point this season?

Let me look. I do not think so. That would have been awesome.

That would have been so good.

That would have been that basically, like, just, we're just going in a time machine.

Yeah. At that point, that's an excuse for us to be like, see, we're not old.

Yeah.

Joe Flacco and Andy Dalton. Still going at it.

Yeah. Throwback.

Yeah.

Watching 2012, 2013, russ was dressed out again, and he didn't, he was not active.

Wearing eye black.

Yep.

He wore the eye black on the sidelines today.

Russ is just that. That was the only thing I was happy for, for Justin Fields is like, he, they lost the game, but it was not his fault, so they didn't have to, you know, like, the rust stuff doesn't start happening because I. Justin feels better than Russell Wilson. He is.

I think so.

I. Maybe Russell Wilson, you can make the argument better pocket passer at this point, but even still, we saw it in Denver. It wasn't. Can't throw it over the middle of the field. I think Russ can all the time either.

So.

So Russia, I'm making the opposite case.

He might get a chance to start at some point in the not so distant future just as a spark, because I feel like the Steelers, they. They win games on defense. They win games by not turning the ball over. And if you have a real bad offense performance, you might just want to see what the offense looks like with a different person there. And I don't think you could get a more different person than Russell Wilson.

Yeah.

Just Justin Fields. So I think there's a chance he gets out there, and if he doesn't, he might end up being, like, just the best investment of all time for the Steelers, where you sign for a million dollars and then you can trade him to a team for like a fourth round pick.

Remember, he took a discount.

He took a discount. Yeah.

Yeah. Even though he's getting paid a ton of money from the Broncos. And that was the best deal that was given to him.

Selfless guy.

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I think the Bengals might be back.

I don't think the Bengals are back.

I think they might, but it's the Annie Dalton Panthers.

Yes, but the Bengals defense is not good.

Very suspect.

I think Trey Henderson got hurt.

He got a stinger, and Cam Taylor.

Britt gave up another touchdown where he looked like he was diving as Deontay Johnson scored a touchdown. Nice to see Deontay Johnson like he just needed Andy Dalton.

He's doing some work. Yeah.

The Bengals offense is elite. The Bengals defense is a problem.

I have to think Lou Amarumo is going to figure it out.

Does he have the guys? Sometimes they say it's not Jimmy's injured, it's not x's and no, it's, it's not X's nose. It's Jimmy's and Joe's. Yeah, they don't have the jimmies and Joe's right now.

They're missing a lot of guys.

They're missing a lot of Jimmy's and Joe's. That Jamar Chase touchdown was so fucking awesome. He's, they can't touch him.

He threw the ball to his dad in the stands afterwards. I like that you saw Brock purdy saying, hi, mom. Afterwards, more players need to be like, hi, dad.

Yeah, yeah, agreed. What we say?

Max, I have a question.

Yeah.

Do you want the Bengals to be good because you think you want to, like, justify the win?

No, I want the Bengals to be good because I like Joe Burrow.

Max might be honest, something.

I just wanted to open. I just wanted to ask that question is all.

No, their defense is a problem. It's not. I mean, the, the Panthers had 375 yards. They were 50% on third downs. I the bank, it's, I guess what we just, what you could say for the Bengals being back, is they, the first week, the concern was a Joe Burrows injury. That weird, you know, video of him grabbing the water bottle. You're like, he might still be injured. Higginson out. Jamar Chase sitting out all that stuff, that was a concern. That is not a concern at all. The Bengals could probably out, like, go toe to toast, like, outscoring shootouts with almost anyone. Their defense is not what the Bengals defense has been in the past.

Yeah. I just have to think that they'll get better at some point, you know, healthy at some guys back. I don't. The Panthers were the best medicine right now for the Bengals.

Yeah.

So at least now they believe that they can win. When they played against the Chiefs, they played good enough to win that game, too. Yeah, I think they'll be. This is what we see all the time from the, from the Bengals. Those, they start out slow. September is a bad month, and then they get hot.

Yeah.

And I think that's what's gonna happen again now. We should have known this game was over from the pre game because they broke the drum. They keep pounding drum.

Oh, no.

And this time it was her per. No, no, this time was John Beeson. Oh, last year I thought, I thought the story sound kind of familiar. They did it last year, too. Mike Tolbert beat the drum, broke it, and they lost that game. If you break the keep pounding drum, you can't keep it. You have to stop pounding.

You have to literally stop pounding.

Yeah.

Yeah. So that was, we should have, we should know right then. Right then and there.

Yeah. But Andy Dalton, I love the Andy Dalton tour, where it's just watching him go out there and look good for a little bit again. It makes us feel a little bit younger than we really are, but that this is the perfect Andy Dalton game if you're the Carolina Pantherse because you lose, but you look competent while losing.

Dave Canales, you can tell, like, he's having, even in a loss, was having more fun being like, I have a quarterback that is, can actually do the things I need him to do, which. It's got to suck being Bryce Young. Bryce Young just should not even dress, is he.

He was dressed today. He's a backup quarterback.

He'd have to have been, right?

I didn't see him at all today.

Yeah, well, it's hard.

Yes.

Behind everyone guy. Yeah.

Little guy.

That'd be funny if they got him like a little, like, drawer.

Yeah. Just tuck him in there.

Yes. He's not to watch the game.

Yeah. Put a straitjacket on him.

You can just hang out. So Bengals back you say back?

I I don't know if they're back yet, but I predict that they will be back. This was, it was a must win for the Bengals.

I'm gonna wait till next week when they play the Ravens to declare them back.

They can be okay. I want to get ahead of it. They might not be back.

Okay. Because one in four is tough.

What? Yeah, I see them. Crystal ball.

Yeah.

Them one in four.

Yeah. So if they, if they could beat the Ravens, I think they're officially back because it softens up a little from there. But I. Right now, I'm not gonna, I'm not ready. They're half back.

Mm hmm.

There the. Are the Bengals back, or did they play the Panthers? That's the question.

Fair stat form. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Next up, broncos ten, jets nine.

What a game.

What a game. So before we get to memes, I would like to say the Broncos defense looks very good. And I know there was weather, but we have to put respect on the Broncos. Patrick Stratan, who we did put respect on last week, is, like, one of the best cornerbacks, if not the best cornerback in the league. He had 60% of Garrett Wilson's snaps was against him, and Garrett Wilson had two catches for 22 yards. The Broncos defense played very well in this game. Bo Nicks, let's just say this. Bo Nicks through a touchdown pass. Everyone's on the board.

Let's go.

Ball. The starters are on the board. He also had a first half of seven for 15 for minus seven yards.

That's very, very hard to do.

Very, very hard to think.

He completed a pass that went past the line of scrimmage in the first half. Weather might have had something to do with it. I'd say probably more than likely it was just bone x being bone to do with it, but they won. Maybe Bonex is just a winner. Have we thought about that?

Well, I was going to say about.

Okay, stats are for losers, big cat.

I haven't.

Maybe Boneix just goes out there and he wins fucking football games.

I have a stat to back it up.

Okay.

Bo Nicks is the first QB to win a game in which he averaged fewer than 2.5 yards per pass attempt. Minimum. Minimum 25 attempts. Bo Nicks just made history. Bo Nicks won a game in spite of bad quarterback play, which was done by Bo Nicks.

Yeah, it's like Tim Tebow. He's T. Bo Nicks.

Yeah.

This is exactly what he used to do for the Broncos, too.

Credit to Bo Nicks.

Yeah.

That's overcoming.

Overcoming yourself, right. Sometimes can be the hardest opponent of all.

Bo Nicks did the impossible. He won a game with Bonix as a quarterback.

Yeah, it was. It was. That first half was. I don't know how anybody watched that game. If you're a Jets fan that made the trip to the Meadowlands. Nobody had a worse day than you. I don't think anyone had a worse summer. Brutal than a poor jets fan. Probably sat in traffic for an hour and a half, you would say. Probably to get out to the meadowlands.

Yeah. More.

Yeah. You were with rain. You were in the rain, in the cold, in the wind. You watched nine points from your offense, and then you got rained on more. Then you left. Then you had to get into another, probably an Uber that, like, you thought it was gonna be decent sized, and it was like a 2007 Toyota Prius. And you and your three friends were stuck together in the backseat. Then you had to sit for another hour and a half in traffic as you were thinking about the loss, listening to postgame radio and make your way back to New York City. That's a, that is an all time bad after. I would rather be in jail. I'd rather spend that time in jail.

Yeah. The 4 hours provider. The 10 hours.

Yeah. Provide that. Jail had a television with the quad box. Yeah.

And another television with another one.

It's basically, who had a worst day, a Jets fan or diddy?

Just today, just a worst day they're trying to make. I saw a report. They're like, diddy's in a jail. That's, like, horrific. It's like, yeah, dude, it's jail.

It's jail. It's jail.

What, like, you want us to feel bad, but it's jail.

Better than the Meadowlands.

Yeah, this was a perfect, this was a perfect, like, commercial for footballs. The greatest game to watch on your couch.

Yep.

It is. The built to watch on your couch. Going to games. The tailgater is fun when the weather's okay, but everything else, the couch is just perfect. Memes, your thoughts? I guess you want questions first. You want thoughts? You want to go thoughts? Then we'll question.

I'll go thoughts. We had nine days to prepare for the rookie quarterback playing back to back away games, playing cross country away games, and we laid an egg. Defense showed up. Robert Salah, after the game, made sure to say the defense showed up, saying the offense didn't mean while you're the head coach and you're in charge of.

Everything now, memes, he is a defensive head coach, correct?

Yes.

But that doesn't matter. You're the head coach.

I would say. Would Aaron Rodgers be kind of in charge of the offense? I'm not even going to include Nathaniel Hackett here.

Yes. Nathaniel Hackett. A problem. It feels like he might be a problem.

Nice guy.

Really nice guy. Had a great time. On, on, on. Pardon my take. He's really, really nice guy.

Loves blake, portals.

He's a way better guy than he is football coach.

He's a. Yeah. As not even coach as he is better human being.

It's a blowout.

Nathaniel Hackett is not smart, but, dude.

He watches the gold member.

Yeah.

There's certain times, like, there was one moment in the game, it was second and one, and then they just ran three pass plays in a row. Well, two pass plays.

And then in the wind and rain.

The wind and rain. Aaron Rogers gets hurt. It's like, how. Haven't you learned your lesson? Just run the ball, put Brandon Allen in, get the extra yardage, get a field goal, get out of the game. Grimy win.

Credit to the Broncos defense. So they did a really good job of shutting down your running game. Breeze hall, what do you have? Like .4 now? He wasn't great yards per carry. Like, the Broncos defense deserves credit. I'm putting some respect on the Broncos.

They do. But when Brees hall wasn't doing well, they should have put Brandon Allen in because he was doing well.

And he's like, he's 19 years old. He's fucking sick. Here's a question for you. Are we at the question point?

Yeah.

Okay. Hank, will you please get a question ready for me as well? Do you think there's an issue between coach and quarterback? Because there was a quote afterwards that Salah said that they need to dial back the cadence and Aaron Rodgers said, that's one way to do it. It. The other way is to hold them accountable. Thoughts?

There might be a slight problem, but I don't think there's problems.

Speaker two.

So when I was telling big cat earlier that Caleb Williams should take that next step and just say, like, fuck, this guy's play calling, I don't have a single doubt in my mind that Aaron Rodgers does that. Maybe. Maybe every single play.

Yeah, Nathaniel Hackett might. They might not even plug in his headset.

That might be why.

They might give him a dummy headset.

It might be why Aaron loves Nathaniel Hackett so much. Because he's like, I will overrule this guy on every single play call and he won't say shit.

Yeah, they. They could have. They're probably have a headset. Nathaniel hackets on a headset with like, he's just talking to no one. And, and they're like, yeah, go stand over there and call your game. And they're like, hey, Aaron, he's, he still thinks he's talking to you. You just call the game.

He's just got, like, nao playing in his headphones and he's out there, like, trying to call a game. Memes, I have a question.

Yes. Yeah.

Have the jets posted the final score yet?

I don't believe so.

Oh, that's a no no.

Back to back losses.

Even the guy put the burrito up his ass.

Did he?

Yeah, it was very funny. I saw the picture. It was horrific.

How did go up there?

He just basically like, held it in his asshole and then he did so. He did that. He took the picture. He had a mask on. He had like a shirt on. It was just his ass with a burrito up. And then the very next tweet was, oh, fuck. My wife found out. I'm screwed. And then later on in the night, when Alabama was up, whatever, 28 nothing, he said, if Georgia comes back and wins this game, I'll do a face reveal and ruin my whole life.

Oh, my God.

And so he had a moment where he was like, I've done it again. Back to back weeks. It's all over. Shout out that guy for actually putting the burrito up his ass. St. Bill Snyder. Henry memes. Yeah.

After last week's big win against New England, what percent chance did you think that you were going to possibly lose.

This game was five 5%. I also did that because I bet.

Them well, even to the last quarter, I, I thought we were winning the entire time.

Yeah.

I mean, you lost a, Bo Nick's missed a kick.

Yeah, but Bo Nix, remember Bo Nix was, is such a winner that he won the game in spite of Bo Nicks. Yeah, that's hard to do.

Listen, Bo Nicks beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the New York jets, and himself twice.

Yeah.

And he's got four wins in the last two weeks.

It's Bo Nicks. Memes.

Any other best quarterbacks in the league? Allegedly, yeah.

Oh, we're getting alleged going on Aaron Rodgers look, alright.

I'm not talking about his play today. Does he, does he look healthy, Dave.

Are looked healthy until he looks our boss.

Dave has a theory that he's got a goofy helmet. Figure that out.

He does have a goofy helmet. It's got the way that it's strapped in looks kind of awkward, but he looks like he looks gaunt. He looks like he has scurvy, like he's on some weird diet where he's not allowed to eat vitamin C. Oh.

You'Re saying not playing. You're just saying.

I'm just saying general, like, he looks.

He looks a little scraggly, looks skinny.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Does he have something wrong with him?

I don't know. He's your quarterback buddy.

No, he's fine.

Sure? Yeah. Okay. Good to hear.

Also memes, explain to these guys what you're telling me about the taunting penalty.

Ooh, did you guys see this?

No, but I'm already fired up hearing your tone of voice.

So Ronald Torberez crew is the fucking worst NFL crew in the league.

It sounds like a narc.

You know, that you're a Jets fan who's very mad about. No, no. Because you, Ronald Torbert, it becomes. Let me start with Ronald Torbert.

When he knows guys face pop up on your screen, you're gonna see him every five minutes for the rest of the game.

Yeah.

So the jets are driving.

Oh, yeah, I know Ronald Torbert.

Yep. The jets are driving. I see there's the last inside of the 20. We're watching it now. He does a casual point point. The ref runs over to Ronald Torbert and said, and does this.

Double points.

Double points. Like he was just shooting guns into the air. 15 yard penalty all the way back.

Also, this tv's not on. I don't know if you thought the tv.

Wait, can we see it? Yeah, can you turn that on? I want to see the double point. I just searched Ronald Torbert to see what he looks like, and one of the first tweets I saw was, per TMZ, NFL official Ronald Torbert is dating a list actress, Margot Robbie. So good for him. Wait, did.

That's got to be a joke.

Yeah, no, it's big time.

Okay.

It's a very funny joke to treat.

Yeah. So what is.

He looks. He's. He's basically Mike Turika. He looks like.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm familiar with all tor.

He's dating Margot Robbie.

Yeah. So what happened was the receiver did the double guns after he tossed the ball up, and then the side judge or whatever ran up to Torbert and was like, torbert? He did the double guns. You can't do the double guns.

Yeah, we're in the greater New York area. You have to. You can't do that.

Yeah, they suspended Plaxico for less than that. So it was. It was a bad taunting penalty to call, and we've been in. We've been an anti anti taunting podcast for quite some time.

Anti anti. Yes.

We think players should be able to taunt. I've got two solutions for it. Two solutions. Because we're. We got to be proactive. We can't just complain about it. Solution number one is whenever the referee announces a taunting penalty, everybody in the stands, even if it's in favor of your team, has to boo like it's Roger Goodell opening up the draft.

Yep.

Everybody just boo the raft. Make them feel ashamed. Second way to do it is if coaches start declining taunting penalties, start declining all the taunting penalty.

A gentleman's rule.

A gentleman's rule. You all do it together. If it's a soft ass, bitch ass taunt, decline the penalty and say, no, thanks. We'll strap it up like men.

I fucking love that. Yeah. Yeah, you. You. Basically. It's mutual. It's mutual combat. When you show up, up before the game, the coin flip, you shake your. Shake hands, and you either agree to all the declining of all taunting penalties or not.

Yeah. I think Dan Campbell would be the first to sign up for this.

God, that would rock. Because people would just be taunting left and right, and the game would be more fun.

Yep.

And. But, you know, someone will break the truce if you really need it. If you really needed 15 yards.

Yeah.

You would definitely break it.

But then they should be shunned.

Yeah, absolutely. Should be taken out of the coaches picture. Yeah.

Beat the fuck out of him before the coach's picture. So they look like that MMA fighter.

Yeah. Meme. So what's your panic level? Because this was a. This was supposed to be a win.

It's supposed to be when panic. Still not high. Just unless we play in rain.

Okay, so no rain for the rest of the year.

No, but I also said that about Zack Wilson. So it's just like. It's just the same. We're kind of in the same spot. We just need perfect weather conditions met.

Like, why don't they have a dude? Oh, why don't you have a don't should?

It's a swampy area, and it's also.

Like, you don't have. That's not a remarkable stadium that has any type of. There's nothing special. It's. Yeah, it's. It's new, and it's also, like, void of any type of character.

Yeah, no, I'm with you. They should get a dome, and they should get grass and then just maintain it.

Okay, I'm with you. You play the Vikings. Who? Sam Donald, revenge game he already had that, but this one's in London.

Nabutic already had that, but it's the.

London Sam Donald revenge game.

It's technically a short week.

Yes, it is definitely short.

Will Robert sell out? Sucks at preparing more than seven days.

Does it rain in England a lot?

It does. Or the playing on a dome?

It's a shorter week for the Vikings.

But we play better on a shorter week.

But they're even shorter.

How do they play on a shorter week?

Because they have to travel farther.

No, I'm saying how do they play?

Oh, I don't know.

But they're also one, one time zone behind you.

Yeah, it's a shorter week for them.

It's even shorter.

Yeah.

They have to go an extra hour, basically a flight or 2 hours of flight.

We're not a time zone podcast.

No, we've never been.

It is technically 1 hour shorter in the time zone zones.

They're, they're an hour apart.

It's the most east coast game that you can possibly play.

But isn't all time the same?

Now you're freaking out, man.

That was heavy.

That's some Aaron Rodgers.

What the hell just happened?

No, man, they, they have to. So memes, let's just say hypothetically, it was the same distance from London, right. New York and Minneapolis. Yep. Minneapolis would have to leave 1 hour earlier on the clock than the jets would.

Correct.

That day that they leave for travel. That's going to be 1 hour.

They left at the exact same time. The jets would leave at 01:00 p.m. and the Vikings were technically twelve or noon.

Yep.

And then they would get there at the same time.

No, no, it would still take longer for the Vikings. One out and they would have to leave earlier. So they're on a shorter week. They have to leave home before you do.

Think you. I think you're right.

Yeah, I know I'm right. So there goes your short week, buddy. You actually get a long, but it's not. You're on a long week compared to the Vikings.

Get that extra hour.

We got.

We got him back in the matrix.

Yeah, have some. How you like that now?

Down like it?

Yeah. No one does.

So does Salak. He sucks at coaching in the rain. Are your quarterback.

Jets suck in the rain overall.

Yeah, the jets suck in the rain. We had two, two good games in the rain. One against the Texans last year. Smoked them and then one against the Bears. But your quarterback was.

Oh, was it BJT? No.

Is it three years ago? Mike White game.

Oh.

Oh, McCownden. Fuck, no. Was it. Oh, no, we started. Shit. Who did we start in that game? What year was it?

Was it seaman?

Yeah. Might have been. Yeah. I think it was Trevor Simeon. I think it was Trevor Simeon stud. That was bad. Yeah, Trevor Simeon started that. Yeah.

But those are the only two good jets games. Like, last year, we played the Giants and barely one. It's just bad.

Okay.

Playing the rain.

So I needs to wear a hat in the rain.

Okay.

The shiny bald head is distracting.

Yeah.

He has to feel every single raindrop all over his head.

He also needs to just, like, show, you know what? Get his gold member. Mike Myers.

Yep.

Is it Austin Powers? Yep. Just get him stuck in the bowels of metlife with a car going back and forth. That's nothing you'll hack before the game.

That's it.

That's like, daniel, can you park my golf cart real quick? And then right before kickoff, like, hey, just put that over there. And he'll just get stuck.

Because it's going to be an issue for Nathaniel Hackett in England. Having to listen all those accents. He'll just think it's hilarious.

Yeah.

This entire country is like. Like, gold member.

He's gonna be. Think he's living in the movie.

Yep.

There's a problem here when the coach gets stuck.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Brick. Ma, the ice is hot. We heat up the ice. All right. All right, next. Why don't you keep the mic on over there? Box 33, Eagles 16. Maxie.

Yep.

So Eagles are bad. Yeah. Right now.

No, they're bad.

Oh. So, yeah, I bet the bucks right before kickoff because I saw the stat that Lane Johnson was out. And since 2013, the Eagles are 97, 59, and one when he plays, which is 62% winning percentage. And now without him, they are 14 and 24. That's significant. That's pretty crazy.

That it is.

It's like 40% of winning percentage when Lane Johnson on the field. Verse 20.

Doesn't help when you're only two receivers on the roster are also out.

Yeah. And I thought for a second, wait.

You have more receivers than that? Yeah. I'll name one.

Britain Coveye.

Britain Covey.

Ir.

Na. Okay, I'll name another one. Johan Dotson.

Not. Not good.

Not a receiver.

Not a worthy one.

Okay.

How much would you give up in a trade for him, hypothetically, if you were to. What do you think it's worth?

A lot less than a third rounder.

What about Dallas Goddard?

He's good.

Yeah. So you had that? Who else?

Saquon Barkley. Got twelve touches.

Okay. Wait, twelve catches?

Touches.

Touches.

So, including his rushing attempts in the whole game.

Correct. He got twelve touches?

That is correct. You want me to say it again?

Yeah.

Did you hear Sirianni's explanation for why they didn't get more involved earlier?

I don't want to hear anything from him.

Okay. Would you like to hear?

Yeah, I'd like to hear it.

So a reporter asked him how come he wasn't more involved in the opening three series of the game. I think he got two touches, maybe on the first three drives.

That's more receivers. And that's more of the receivers than they have on the active roster.

Yeah, that's a good point, Hank. So Sirianni said, well, in those drives, if you look at him, we got to third down on all of them and went three and out. So on third down, we weren't going to run the ball. So really it's just two plays per possession that we weren't getting the ball at. So you have, and bear that in mind and take three of those plays out, and now you're only stuck with nine plays, or I guess that'd be six plays to get him the ball. And they got him the ball a third of the time, so that was pretty good. Oh, if you got him the ball more, maybe then you wouldn't have been in third.

Stuck in that.

Yeah.

Max. You guys have John Ross?

Yes.

I didn't know he was still in.

The NFL practice squad.

He's the fastest guy in the.

Also, I think he wears 37. Is that the slowest number?

38, but he's not the slow. That's actually smart by him because he's so fast and he wears a slow number. People will be deceived. That's genius.

No, yeah, I agree.

I agree. Like, if you were number one or eleven.

Yeah, dude, he's the. I remember John Ross when he got drafted. I was just like, this guy's gonna be a game changer so fast.

End up on the Chiefs and then we'll look at morons.

Yeah, he will. He. You probably will trade him to Chiefs. He'll be incredible. Incredible. John Ross had a catch.

Yeah. I don't know.

Were there any positive things about today?

No.

Okay, what about that? What about the blocked extra point? You guys return for two points.

Sick.

I mean, the game was over in instantly. Second. It was.

It was also like, as soon as they went down, they didn't have the guys to go back.

If it's tough, it's tough. Yeah. Baker Mayfield. Nice bounce back from his game last week. And the bucks.

Baker was incredible.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, he. He had a bad game against the. The Broncos, and he bounced back. And the bucks look like they're still the class of the NFC south.

I think there's a chance that Sirianni doesn't make it make through the by.

Whoa.

No. Is he sick?

No. Oh, there's. There's. There's two guys out there.

I got one.

There's two guys out there.

It should be very Dominic Belichick.

Ray or Belichick.

That both would kill. Everybody would kill.

Hey, rabes would kick the shit out of people if he was the coach. Yeah.

Eagles variable would be awesome.

You want to lead our men?

Wait, but you're not gonna hire an interim.

Yeah. Why not?

Yeah, I guess. Why not? You're right. You're right. All right, so you're really. You're really down on a two and two team with a lot of injuries. Like, the injuries are gonna get fixed.

They.

I. They did not show up in the slightest today. They had no interest of being on the field.

It was too hot.

And then there's. There's a problem. There's problem between coaching quarterbacks. There's problem between coach and player. And the. Whenever the coach gets behind a microphone, he sounds like a fucking idiot, just like me. But I'm not the coach of the fucking Eagles.

That's true.

And Darius Slay is a fucking.

Oh, yeah. So tell us this story, because we missed this. I wanted. I want you to tell me what happened with Darius Slay. He got burritos.

Like, bad game today.

Yeah, very bad game.

And then what do you do after the game? Goes to Twitter almost immediately. X 150 pass breakups and countenance. 28 picks and counting. Six time Pro bowl, all pro. When you talk bad about me, don't forget to mention the greatness of me, too.

Oh, okay.

Mention his greatness.

And then.

Hey, are you taking notes, guys. What?

He got roasted and then went private.

Seriously, be. Be a man like everyone else. And don't even tweet any of that. Just do a screenshot of the man in the arena speech.

Yeah, shut up all the haters. Hank, you need to do that when you can't dunk.

You'd be like, I'm gonna dunk.

No. You know, producer for number one sports podcast for the last eight plus years.

Rode on the float with.

With the Joe Missoula keeper of the lighthouse.

Keeper. The lighthouse. Didn't look that bad bald.

Didn't look that bad bald.

That's actually. That might be number one yeah.

Remember my glittery ball winner?

Yeah.

Three X in the new studio.

What do you say? What is it? What's the last line of it? Remember my. When you come at me, remember my greatness.

Mention my greatness as well.

That's such a loser thing to do. You can't do that on Twitter.

And then he went private.

Yeah.

That's bad.

Yeah. Philly got it.

When people criticize me, they don't also talk about how great I.

When you talk bad about me, don't forget. Don't forget to mention the greatness of me, too.

Well, that wouldn't be talking bad about him.

Correct.

Bucks, I do think, are the class of the NFC South. I think they're very good. It was good to see Baker bounce back because I feel like with these quarterbacks and Bakers had extended periods, but like a Sam Darnold Baker, I think is better than Sam. But if they have one bad game, I'm always worried that it's going back into a pumpkin.

Yep.

You know?

Yeah.

Oh, no, I hear you.

Did they figure him out?

Yeah. So I just get nervous. So that. It was good to see Baker have. Have a good bounce back game.

I think it's a little bit different with Baker because he had success. Yeah, he was.

Baker's not the same. Yeah. We also had a. Tom Brady was just unloading the clip with stories today. He said that the Bears were a secret team for him in 2020. I remember that that was floated. It might have been just Mike Florio said it to bother me and to get me a little excited, but boy, who cried goat. Yeah, he drew. He dropped that.

I don't remember talking about it that much. Like, I. Obviously, there was, you know, he was going to go somewhere else, but I don't remember the Bears being a serious, like, I feel like we would have had more serious conversations if that were true.

I think it was just like a dark horse team that was mentioned a few times.

He took his, his free agency tour kind of under wraps, if I remember, because he had that one. There was, like, secret meetings going on with the Dolphins, and then that whole thing blew up and then there were some other teams where it was like, oh, he might go to this team, but this is the first I remember hearing, like, concrete. Tom thought about going to the barrier.

He would have hated it because that was. I mean, that was 2020. I actually think we might have gone to the. Was that the year they extended the playoffs? When they made it, made it 17?

There was Covid, right?

Yeah.

I want to say Tom Brady won the Super bowl.

We went to the, I think that was a game that there's loss of the Saints.

There was Heineckey, Heinecke covered against the Bucks.

I think that was MVP year.

Was it?

I think that was Mitch winning the MVP.

That sounds right.

I think it might have been.

So what would you rather have so they.

So.

Well, I mean, first ever IP.

Well, I guess my point is like that it wasn't crazy. It sounds crazy. Be like, oh, he would have gone to the Bears, but the Bears that year were a playoff team with Mister Risky. Yeah, yeah, I'm right. It was the, that was the MVP the year.

Do you think they would.

That was all better the whole four year when he kicked?

Yeah. You think they would have been better with.

I think they would have probably been better with Tom Brady.

They might have. So the big question was answered today is that's, are the Bucks having more fun this year?

Yes.

The other one is years ago.

Yeah.

So there was a quote, I don't ever remember talking about this on this show, but apparently Baker said on the Casa de club podcast, the building was a little different with house club. House of club.

Did you just hit the SAP button by accident?

No, it says on this, on this.

Name I was translating, you hit the SAP button.

The house of club. The building was a little bit different with Tom in there. Obviously, playing wise, Tom is different. He had everybody dialed in, high strung environment. So I think everybody was pretty stressed out. They wanted me to come in, be myself, bring the joy back to football for guys who weren't having as much fun. And then Tom Brady said today on the broadcast, I thought stressful was not having Super bowl rings. There was a mindset of a champion that I took to work every day. This wasn't daycare. If I wanted to have fun, I was gonna go to Disneyland with my kids.

Mmm. So got him.

Would you rather have fun or win a Super bowl?

I'd say this is the old Lane Johnson when we got him in trouble.

Yeah, that's true.

And we basically put words in his mouth.

Is Tom Brady not fun?

No. Lane Johnson said that.

No, we led him to say that. We definitely did. I remember we were. We basically put it in his mouth.

Yeah, we.

Down his throat.

We put in his mouth.

Put it in Lane Johnson's mouth.

I think Tom Brady might not be.

A fun hang, but he wins.

But he wins. And is that fun?

Yes.

Yeah. He's just like the finance version. Like, we don't have funny read, make bank.

Yeah. Having fun. Having fun is actually for losers. Yeah, that might be it. That might be true.

It. It kind of is. Winning is more. Is the most fun you can have, right?

Yes. The most fun you can have while having no other fun.

Right. You. When one, you win, that's the peak of fun. What it takes to get to winning. Not.

That part sucks. I actually think losers have way more fun than winners.

Yeah. They just hang out.

But then if you lose too much, then that. Then you're not having any fun on that side, too.

The key is to be an unaware loser.

Yeah.

Because then your life is just awesome.

All the time to think you're a winner.

Yeah. You just lose and you're like, well, I. I don't care.

Like, maybe if you just do a podcast and you get on this podcast all the time and you talk a lot of shit about people that have accomplished a lot in their chosen field of athletics and you make fun of them, you're a loser, but you're unaware that you're losers, you would probably have a lot of fun doing, right?

A lot of likely have a lot of fun. Hypothetically. Okay, so Max season's over.

We. I mean, we can make a change.

Oh, so with Nick Sirianni, season is over.

Current mindset is that.

Yeah.

And Jalen Hurts is addicted to turning the ball over.

Oh, no. Are we about to have this conversation? Let's wait.

Let's wait.

Let's wait till Lane Johnson comes back and AJ Brown, I think, is. I don't want to have this conversation that we've been dancing around for a while.

I think AJ Brown is going to make a big difference.

It sounds like you're having the conversation in your head, though.

Let's wait.

But are you. We're not going to have this conversation. Has a conversation occurred in your head?

Yes.

Okay, that's bad.

Who's winning the first session? Is it angry Max or is it. I'm not asking the question. Is it, is angry Max winning the conversation? Or is cool headed, rational Max?

Think angry Max. Angry Max is angry.

Tough to argue with.

Always controls this brain.

Well, you think depending on what you eat, it goes like, if you eat a salad, it goes to calm Max. V to meatball, goes to angry Max.

I don't know.

The more italian eat, the angrier your angry brain gets. Like, I'm well fed now.

Max, can I give you some good news, Max?

Also, congratulations to Max. He completed his wedding finale this weekend. Five wedding, four weddings in five weeks gauntlet. Congrats, Max.

I'm. I am I'm fighting for my life right now.

Yeah, I can tell.

You did it, though.

I could tell.

It's an impressive stretch. Here's some good news for you, Max. You have the buy. That's good. Make any changes over the buy, maybe get healthier. After that, the Browns. After that, the Giants. After that, the Bengals. And after that, the Jaguars.

Oh, is that even a thing? Where teams bring in coaches from the outside in the middle of nowhere?

No. No.

So why are you even floating that out there?

Why not?

Because it's not realistic.

Are you talking about an interim coach?

No. He's throwing out Belichick and variable, but that would be unprecedented.

Has that ever happened?

I don't think so.

Early.

You hired just an interim coach for hire coach. Oh. Would be great at that job.

Yeah. Yeah.

He's not doing anything.

All right. A boy can dream. A boy can dream.

Yeah.

Why?

Well, you said that like that's your solution. Like, how do we fix? Turn the season around. Let's do something that's never been done in the history of correct sport. That's a bad spot to be in.

It's a really bad spot to be in.

They looked horrible today.

Yeah.

It's just bad vibes.

The vi.

The vibes haven't been good in a year.

Well, it's the booing. It's everything.

It is. It's booing against everything. You're right. Hey, Phillies.

That's gonna end.

Why? Why? What is wrong?

I don't know. I also got bad vibes for that.

What? What? What?

I'm just a little.

Go ahead. You're almost there. No, no, no. Never finish the thought.

We have more.

You got a playoff run coming up. You can't think losing, dude, finish the thought. We gotta think winning.

I'm scared Ranger Suarez all of a sudden sucks.

Oh, no.

I'm sweet, Max. I just looked this up here. In 1978, the San Diego Chargers head coach, Tommy Prothro, resigned four weeks into the season, and the Chargers got Don Coryell. Oh, from the Cardinals.

Yes, Hank.

In your face, Don Coryell.

Suck.

Learn ball.

Yeah, Donnie.

See, somebody said this. I don't. I didn't see with my own two eyes, so I might be spreading fake news here. Did big Dom participate in the post game coaches handshake?

I don't know.

That would be funny if he's been emasculated so much that big Dom, like, holds the back of Nick Sirianni's hand.

Yeah.

And they shake it together. Yeah.

Let me bring my consiglier.

I want to make sure that this man doesn't break your hand, I have to protect you at all costs. Okay, before we do the last five games, pft, you want to do a couple ads?

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Okay, Texans Jaguars Texans 24 Jaguars 20 CJ Stroud game winning drive Jaguars look like they might be okay. Get off the mat and then they lose. And it feels like, things are starting to spiral for Dougie P. Because he was asked after the game about his status, and he said, my status? I mean, no. Kind of a strange question, but okay.

Yeah, yeah. Like, he hadn't thought about that at all. There was another part of his postgame press conference that stood out, and I think a lot of people didn't pick up on it. But if you're Jaguars fan, you probably know exactly what I'm talking about. Doug Peterson has not said publicly that press Taylor is the play caller. He's our offensive coordinator. Doug Peterson's in charge of the offense. He's called a lot of plays earlier in his career, and people were speculating that maybe he was calling the plays now for Jacksonville. He said in the press conference, just out of nowhere, he goes, press Taylor called a great game today, number one. I don't think Press Taylor called a great game today, but he threw that out there and then right after that, he said, listen, if you're going to point fingers, point fingers at me.

Yeah.

So what Doug Peterson just did was throw his offensive coordinator under the bus very subtly.

Yeah.

By letting people know that it's press Taylor that's calling these plays. So, shot, if you're, if you're watching this press conference, if you need to ask somebody, I'm not calling the plays right now. It was like a little bat signal.

Yeah, that's kind of shitty.

Yeah.

Also was like, they gotta, they gotta make plays. Throwing it back on the players.

That part, if he was not intending to throw his offense creator under the bus, which he might not have been, maybe he was, but if he was intending to do that, he did a nice, subtle job of doing it. If he didn't, then you can still say, well, then right after that, you said that our players need to go out and execute because we had a great game. Now, Trevor, I don't think, played poorly today. He had like a couple overthrows.

That one deep one that was. I don't know who it was, was wide, wide open.

You could definitely say that.

Oh, my.

Missed two touchdown passes today.

Yeah, that was bad.

But he also made some really good throws today. He needs to cut it out with a spin moves to nowhere.

Yeah, spin moves to nowhere are always, always bad. I don't understand. So the Jaguars did a pretty good job of running the ball today, and then when they got the ball back, or, sorry, they got the ball with like 3350 ish left in the game. Up, up three. They decided to run the ball in, first down and then pass, pass, both incompletions kicked it back to the Texans with more than enough time to for CJ Stroud with timeouts in his back pocket. Go on a game winning drive. I don't care if you want to say, well, we got to stay aggressive. We got to say grabs. Like in that situation, under four minutes, you have to try to give, like if you're going to give the ball back, it has to be with as little amount of time as possible.

And was at and hurt today. Did he get injured early on?

I don't know.

We were going back and forth.

I do not recall.

We were watching the game in the PMT studio.

I do not recall.

Couldn't focus on all of him at the same time.

I do not hurt him back.

I think. Yeah, I thought I heard that he got hurt, but because everybody was like, why the fuck isn't Etienne running this football?

Yeah, I mean, that was just a, I don't know why they weren't running there and trying to burn clock. And then CJ Shroud happened. And I have a question for you. PfT is Nico Collins a top three wide receiver? Cause it feels like he is.

He's awesome.

He's so good. CJ Stroud watching this game, like, it was basically like any time they get in trouble, just hit the Nico Collins button. Yeah, they got and just. He'll make a big fucking play for you.

The Texans have some serious weapons. It's like them and the Vikings that have the two best weapons. I'd like to see those teams play. Yeah, that'd be a shootout. Yeah, but they're.

Well, unless one team fumbles.

That's true.

That change the whole coach that's over the game. That would be against the 49 ersitive.

So CJ Stroud is just, he's, he's entering that conversation where it's like, if you're within one possession at the end of the game.

Yeah.

CJ will figure out a way to get it done. Yes, I read something interesting about him this week, actually. Did you know that he moved his barber to Houston? He had a barber power move. He had a barber. I think he met him at Ohio State and they became good friends. And then he gets drafted, obviously by the Texans. And then he like flew his barber out a couple times, got him some nice haircuts, and then he was like, you know what, fuck it. Why don't you just move down to Houston?

I love that.

That's such a good move.

I love that.

Because having a good barber is like a good therapist.

The yeah, absolutely.

Yeah.

Especially maybe a little scalp massage there. Wow. We shouldn't do that with Texas. Yeah.

Watch out.

Yeah.

The last therapist that got so kindly.

But, uh. Yeah. CJ shroud is in that category of if you made a list of guys with the ball in their hands with two minutes left. Left and need a touchdown, he's top five.

Yeah.

Of. Yeah. I feel confident. Just the poise he has is just always insane. Yeah.

But Nico Collins is.

I.

Sometimes we forget about Nico Collins.

I don't.

He gets, he gets lost.

I'm on all my fantasy teams, not. Not to brag, so I don't.

But he's really good.

He's really fucking good. And it really does feel like anytime they get in a jam, they just hit that button. This just is a vibes thing. But it might. There might be a stat to back it up. Is Larry me Tonsil, going for the record for flags this year?

He might be, but counterpoint. Yeah. I have another question for you. Big answer, this question. Do you remember the name of the other first overall pick who's on the Jacksonville Jaguars from, I believe, 2022? I think. No. He might be the most untalked about first overall pick in the NFL.

Oh, yeah. No, Josh Allen was not the. It's the guy from Georgia.

Joshua Hines Allen.

Yeah.

He was drafted, I think the same spot that other Josh Allen was drafted.

No, it's from George. Guy from Georgia.

Guy from Georgia. Trayvon. Trayvon Walker. Walker.

Yes.

Trayvon Walker. People don't remember. They have that guy as a first overall pick, too.

They do.

And he might be a holding merchant.

Yeah.

Cause he got, I think it was three holding penalties that he got against Tunsil today.

Tuns was trying to break the record.

Yeah.

I really feel it. I don't know if there's a stat to look it up, but, you know, he had the triple. The triple false start last week. I think he had a couple more this week. I kind of like it. Like I'll say right now, Laramie Tonso, I support your aspirations to break the record for most flags in a season.

And also, if you had a quarterback that was getting hit a lot, wouldn't you rather have your offensive lineman just hold the guy and prevent him from getting clobbered?

Yes. Also, also, if you're Laramie Tunsil and you want. Want maybe the Google results to not be the bong mask, breaking the record for most penalties in a season would be pretty good.

That's true. Because I think if you Google Laramie Tunsil holding.

Yeah.

It doesn't auto populate holding a gas mask bomb.

Yeah.

Yep.

Okay.

It's not even on the list anymore.

There you go. So good job. Laramie Tunsil. He's gonna break the record. I gotta find out how many he actually has. I gotta look this up real quick. Laramie Tunsil.

They should give. That should be a defensive stat to what if you draw an offensive holding?

Yeah, I'd agree. It should be a half a sack.

Yep. Penalty, which I think is what Tuns will have. That bong.

Mm hmm. It's kind of funny. I just love his name.

It is fun to say.

You. Laramie Tonsil I'm seeing right here says 15 flags so far this year. That's crazy.

See, I would not mind that if I was CJ Stroud.

Oh, no. 1010 penalties through four games for Laramie Tunsil. Now, that's awesome. I think he's going for it. Go for it. I want that. Most penalties by any player through week three since 2000.

I love that.

Yes.

It does feel like it needs to.

Be, like, a social maguire thing.

Yeah.

Where, like, we. We do it. We do a flag watch.

Yeah. Who else would be up there for holding pin?

I don't know, but I want Laramie tonsil. I want a flag watch. I want them to break into a, like, playoff baseball game to just be like. And we break in live to Houston. Laramie Tunsol with another hold. They just show the replay of the hold, then they get out of there. Yeah.

Red zone for holding every. Every drop back. I was talking to Arian the other day, and he was telling me about what a deep part of the Texans culture Andre Johnson still is to this day. Do you know what his title is?

No. He still is director of vibes.

He's working for the Texas. His title is being Andre Johnson. Oh, so Arian saw him at a game once. I was like, hey, good to see you. He's wearing the shirt and everything, the Texans polo shirt. He's like, what are you doing for the team? He goes, I'm just being me. They just pay Andre Johnson to hang out and just be himself.

I love it.

Which is important to do, I think, if you have a guy like him.

Yeah.

That played for a bunch of shitty quarterbacks and was still really, really good. Just keep that guy in the building.

Yeah, they did. Jerry Reinsworth did it with Scottie Pippen, where he just made him, like, ambassador to basketball.

There you go. Sorry about not paying you, Scott.

Here, sit on the side.

Here's $50,000 a year to hang out?

Pretty much. Pretty much. Okay. Next up, commanders 42, cardinals 14 pft. Are the commanders just good?

I think they might be good.

I think so, too.

I think I might have a good, fun team.

I think they're good and I think they're good at football.

It's crazy to think about that. Now this, I will get to some jaden suckfest stuff in a second, but I feel like the most impressive thing about the commanders today, two things, actually. One, our defense. Our defense was pretty good. Yeah, I would say that they were good today, which is crazy considering that if you asked me a week ago what I thought about their defense, I'd say probably the worst in the league.

I feel like they're getting to a Dan Quinn competency level.

Yes.

Like a baseline Dan Quinn, which is.

All I'm hoping for.

Like, they don't make mistakes.

I never said anything beyond Yoffen, but if we have a good defense, if we have like 20th ranked defense, I'm thinking a win in the offs. I'm thinking maybe, maybe visional wiki. I'm thinking maybe that team today look.

Like they could be in a soupy.

No. I'm thinking if our, if our defense is.

That was a soupy team.

If our defense is 16th in the NFL. Right. Better as a defense than Dak Prescott is his quarterback, I would say that we could lose the NFC championship game.

To who?

Anybody. That's kind of our ceiling this year. I feel like if our defense is just kind of. If it's average to a little bit above average, but I don't think that's going to stick around.

I think that's soupy.

And our offensive line has really turned a corner, too, which is also another thing that I thought would be a weakness. But our offensive line and a running game looked awesome today.

So is Supi.

No, I'm not thinking Supi. He's a rookie quarterback and we have a lot of, a lot of work to do with our roster.

But.

But he is. He's different.

Yeah, he's very good. He's 82% completion percentage.

Yeah.

Crazy.

So I have a couple. What's the opposite of insult stats?

I don't know.

Incest stats. Cuz I love that brother.

Yeah, that works.

Jaden Daniels. His completion percentage? 82.1%. And that's through his first four games playing in the NFL. 82.1. That's the highest of any four games stretch in the regular season since the NFL merger.

Wow.

Like of all time, second place Peyton Manning in 2000, 881 percent. Third place 2007 Tom Brady 79.2% elite company.

That's good sick.

Good company to be in.

That's pretty sick.

He's completed at least 85% of his passes in two consecutive games. He's the first quarterback in NFL history to have two consecutive games of at least 85% or higher completion percentage. The first quarterback.

That's pretty sick.

It's, it's weird. It is. It's weird being so happy with my team and I was thinking about it because I'm still getting tweets from people being like, pft. I'm very, it's so fun, so cool to see you happy. I'm glad that you're happy watching football, which I appreciate because I've had some pretty bad teams that I've rooted for that I think might turn around in the next couple weeks because people are going to get sick of me being happy pretty quick.

No, I was saying you before. I think it's just that when, if Jaden Daniels has a bad game, people will definitely be like, hey, you said that you wouldn't trade. You would only trade Gene Daniel, Sir Patrick Mahomes. They would say that, but I don't think they'd stop being happy for you. They would just try to dunk on you for that. Maybe not, which you shouldn't apologize for.

I won't apologize.

Get excited.

I'm very happy. My mom texted me during this game when she was watching and her text was just, I want to have Jaden Daniels over for dinner.

Oh, nice.

So that's nice.

Try to arrange that.

Yeah, we'll see. But, no, I'm not thinking soupy. But today it was encouraging and also just having a fun team.

Team.

It's, it's wild. I don't know what's happened.

Yeah, it is very fun. Yeah, it was the, it was my fun over today because I remember we talking about it, that they, they were responsible for our happiness in the afternoon.

Yep.

And it was.

Yeah.

Fun.

You called the fun over. I called commanders moneyline back in August.

Yeah, that's true. Oh, yeah. You cash your bet.

Cash my bet.

Terrible line. But you cash.

That's fine. That's fine. Max is, I think, already starting to not be so happy with me.

Well, because Jalen hurts is he's having angry Max conversations about it.

Yeah.

Max.

I said that the, I was telling you that they're good.

Commanders are first in the NFC east, correct? Yes.

They were first in the NFC's last week.

They are. They've gone another week of being first. The NFC east correct. Are they them? Have they held the NFC east crown for the most weeks?

I think so. Yeah, I. Yeah, sure. Yeah, no, I think, yeah, no, Eagles had it week one, right?

Yeah.

You want to game Brazil. And then what happened week two with you? They lost, but we won week two. I think you held it for two weeks.

I think you are still week one.

Oh, damn. We got to get that stat.

No, no.

Sweet, too, because we beat it.

You beat a. Oh, yeah.

You beat the Giant in the.

Yeah. So you've had it for the most weeks.

That's true.

I got, wow, that's pretty huge.

But at one point today, I told Max that the Eagles should put Kenny Pickett in not because Jalen was or Jaden. Now I'm getting my, my jays mixed up. We're not talking about the Eagles, not because Jalen wasn't playing well. I just thought that, you don't want to get him hurt in this game.

Yeah.

And then Max flipped out and was like, you've been good for one week.

Actually, three down.

You know, that was just for that game.

Three weeks.

That was before that out. Giants.

The Cardinals offense is, it feels broken to me.

They just forget about Marvin Harrison.

Well, it's not even that. It's like they either have a drive that looks like they're the most explosive offense in the world where James Connor's running through people and then Kyler Murray scrambles and hits a deep shot or it's three and out. It feels like there's nothing in between. Like they just, I, they had two drives. I think it was maybe their first drive and a drive in the third or fourth quarter where it looks like no one in the world could stop the Cardinals. Every other drive looks atrocious.

Yeah, but when they were driving, it's like this is the formula. Stick with it. And nobody could guard Marvin Harrison junior when they throw him the ball. And then they just for, it's like for complete quarters, the Cardinals forget to pass the ball.

Yes, yes. It's, yeah. Pft. I think the commanders are going to, came right down. Like, I think the commanders are good. A good team. It's not, it's not a fluke because the Monday night game, you always had to hit in your back, your head be like, all right, we caught fire for one game.

Yeah, that was cool.

But no, they're just a really good team.

Jayden Daniels makes every single moment of my life better. I'm happier all the time because of him.

That makes sense.

And I don't want anything bad to happen to him.

That makes sense. Why would you say that?

I want to protect. Because it's always in the back of my head. The pumpkin thing. Thing. The stagecoach turning into a pumpkin at midnight. That's always gonna be in the back of my head.

Yeah.

Don't let anything bad happen to him.

Don't.

He's awesome. And I'm thinking Yoff's win. I'm thinking maybe divisional Wiki.

Love it. Vision. Visional week.

Divisional wiki. Also, if you want to hate Jaden Daniels, I have an easy way. Why you can do that. I said during the game, like, hey, Stephen Shay, do you have any terrible nicknames for how he used to call Justin Fields? Justin?

No.

So credit Stephen Che. He followed through on this assignment and sent me a list of nicknames that I can yell at the tv. Do you want to hear him?

Yes.

This will. This will make you hate Jaden Daniels. JD. Kind of like Jay Z in parentheses.

He says, wouldn't JD more be like Jack Daniels?

Yeah, that's good point. Or JD Vance. Yeah. The Jade animal.

Oh.

Cinco de Daniels.

Oh.

And then he just said, any bomber plane that you know of could work.

What?

So if I want to call him like, a b two or a b.

One does not work at all.

That could work.

Yeah.

Also the warthog. I don't mind the Warthog.

The Warthogs. Not bad.

It's pretty sick.

The Warthogs.

Not Warhog. Anyways, I. I'm happy all the time because of Jane Daniels.

That's awesome. I'm happy. I'm happy you're happy, Hank. Really? Talk about the Patriots, surely. 49 ers 30, Patriots 13.

We have the worst offensive line in the history of NFL.

Oh, is that it?

Defense played pretty good. Our offensive line stinks. It completely makes the game impossible.

Yeah.

Short drives. Defense is on the field all game. They get tired. It's impossible to like defense, I don't think is the problem, but I. But when you have no offensive line, it's impossible to get anything going.

Yeah.

And when drives go, you know, three and out, you have two or three three outs in the first quarter. First half. And it's like, this game's over. We can't. We're not going to score and it's over.

Yeah.

And you're in a weird position where with an offensive line like that, probably not the best idea to start your rookie quarterback.

Right. But he would be the only thing that would make it, like, half enjoyable to watch football.

Correct.

So you're, you're you're in a real conundrum.

Yeah.

Now you. You're just kind of resigning yourself to a season watching bad football.

Yeah. Yeah.

Which was kind of. I knew it was going to be the case going into it. We had the first week, you know.

But Fred Warner's pick was so fucking cool.

Yeah.

He jumped so high and then ran not that fast, but all the way down the field for a touchdown. Also, Brock Purdy at one point had nine completions for 199 yards.

That's crazy.

It was just, everyone was getting big place.

Do you see that catch the kiddle had?

Yeah.

Touchdown catch where he jumped over three people to haul it in.

Yet Juwan Jennings is just also a stud.

Yeah.

It's crazy.

Somehow, Juwan Jennings, like, don't. Don't really miss a beat.

Nope. They're just. Yeah, I mean, that was. We. We said it Friday. This was the get right game.

Yeah, Trent 49 ers had. It got very right. Yeah, Trent Williams was just.

He was getting right all day.

Good news if you're a Niners fan. Christian McCaffrey is expected to start running on hard ground soon. So I don't know what he's been training on sand, what they have in Germany, but maybe sand. Maybe doing, like, underwater treadmill like Blake did when he was recovering to Germany's so far.

To go to the doctor.

Yeah.

Like, think about how much it sucks to go to the doctor, and you gotta go all the way to Germany.

I just got my first physical in, like, six years.

I need to do that so bad.

There's doctors that live right down the street from me, every place I've been.

Yeah, I need to do that. I need to get one.

Or even their offices are right there, too.

Yeah. I feel like the Niners are gonna beat up the Cardinals next week. So they're gonna get right on.

After they get right, they're gonna get real right.

They're gonna get so right.

Hard right.

Yeah. And like, Kate in the case race looking right.

Mm hmm.

Raiders. Browns wrapping up raiders 20, brown 16. The business decision game, it worked. Antonio Pierce had no Max Crosby, no Devontae Adams. He got crazy with it. They had, like, they had, I think six dudes run the football at one point. There were six guys who got carries that, you know, they only have two running backs. And they just did. They did kind of a mini kitchen, kitchen sink where they just threw everything at him it. And won this game. And I don't know. The Browns might be one of the biggest bummer teams out there right now.

They're big time.

Like Amari Cooper wants out.

Yeah.

He does not want to be there anymore.

Who caught that long touch, then that got cold.

Mari Cooper.

That was Cooper. Okay, so if you're a Browns fan, you have every right to complain about that. Yeah, it was. It might have been by the letter of the law, a penalty, a block in the back. But it. You. It was not enough to throw a flag on my.

And I don't know how Deshaun Watson I look, you get. You take sacks. I get it. But, like, fourth down for the game on the line, you have to throw the ball somewhere. You have to. Yep.

That pick was not his fault, though. That was actually very pass that he threw that bounced off his receiver's hand.

But they, they just have, it feels like their offensive line issues with injuries and everything, they're just. Maybe Nick Chubb fixes a lot of it. I don't know.

He is fun to root for. At least you get that back.

If you're brown, he is on his way back.

If you can't get Jameis in the game, a fun guy to root for is Nick Chubb.

Yeah, the. Yeah, the flag was. Was bullshit on the Mari Cooper. So, yeah, the Brown should have won this game, but still, they're bad vibes.

Also credit to the Raiders. I know the business decision thing, but this, they probably had the opposite of players only meeting this week. Yeah, just like coaches. You have to listen to all the coaches talk to you all the time.

All the time.

And it paid off for him. These are the kind of games that Antonio Pierce will have your team win.

Yeah.

Like, the real. I give the Raiders a better than 50% chance in every 50 50 game. Game.

Mm hmm. Agree. Do we have Johnny Fanta?

Oh, yeah, Fanta. Save this.

We started, pft, and I were sitting in here by ourselves and we started to play it, and then we're like, you know what? Let's save it so we can react with the people. This is becoming one of my favorite Sunday night traditions is just pulling up Jon Fantas twitter and seeing how he reacted to another heartbreaking browns loss.

This one is two minutes and 14 seconds. Seconds.

Okay, that's fine. I get that's. Listen, you give me 2 hours of fanta, I'll take it.

Okay. I'm just letting you know.

Okay.

Also, this. Someone messed around with this tv.

Oh, so it's not working.

Like we. You're just seeing yourself, right?

Yeah, we see ourselves. It's kind of nice.

But you can't see.

No, no.

Can't see anything.

I just want to hear fancy.

Let's just hear.

Okay, I'll use my imagination. It looks like Fanta. I'm doing a deep, sad and sickened.

I'm ill. For the Browns fans who spent their hard earned money and ventured across America to go watch that. They're in Vegas.

Come on.

And a one in three team, a team that comes out every Sunday and like clockwork, can go right down the field. Field. On their opponent, the Cleveland Browns scored a touchdown on their opening drive. They then went and scored a field goal.

From there, the offense produced nothing.

Not a thing. It's not Sean Watson's fault on this Sunday. It's not thought this was one of his best performances at Cleveland Brown.

176 yards.

And I think that that just makes you feel how much more painful about this loss because it's across the team. 260 days ago, this organization was in a playoff game.

Oh, and as we sit and talk.

Right now, they're one in three with bosses and back to back weeks to the Giants and the Raiders. Oh, it still feels like they're trying to feel everything out on offense. There's more organization on the Las Vegas Strip at 03:00 a.m. on a Saturday than there is with this team in game. Offensively, they can't score. They can't score. They have failed to reach 20 points in a game. One and three, a lost season. I'm sad and I'm sickened. And now you think to yourselves, what are the consequences about to be for this organization as this year goes on? Because it doesn't feel like they have leadership. It feels like they're soul searching. Defense, you made a big effort in the fourth quarter. I can appreciate that. But you're losing the Giants and Raiders. You were in the playoffs 260 days ago. I'm ready for playoff baseball Sunday. I love it.

Panta, I think he's pretty level headed.

I can't score. Feel. I can't score.

He put on a guardian.

Oh, he did good. I love it.

He feels bad for the fans who spent their hard earned dollar. I love nobody watches out for the fans dollar like Fanta.

Also Vegas like, not a bad, you know, you went to Vegas for the weekend.

Maybe a lot of those Browns fans made money.

Yeah, they probably did. Yeah, that's a good point.

Maybe they bet against the Browns.

Would have been a great point. Business decision game.

Also, the Raiders did this without Max Crosby.

Yeah, Max and Devontae Adams.

Without Devontae Adams. So the Devontae Adams that feel, it felt like a weird announcement of his injury. Right.

It was back.

But he also get weird vibes about that on Wednesday.

I believe it was. They were just like, oh, yeah, these two guys are out. The best two players on the Raiders.

Yeah. And to win this game, that's what, that's the Antonio Pierce factor.

Memes definitely thinks Devante Adams getting treated to the Jets 100%. He thinks that's happening.

Yes.

And for what, son?

Reddick.

Oh, I don't hate that.

Yeah. The Raiders would have a dominant defensive line. We would get a dominant receiver.

Three. Great pass.

Still throw down Lazar.

Oh, he'd still throw talent. Yeah. Well, no, Devontae Adams is just, you know, a souped up Alan Lazard. It's still Rogers guy.

You're right. He still went through.

Would you trade Devante Adams for Garrett Wilson? Nah. No, I mean, Devontae Adams is more accomplished.

I think I solder.

I think I would. I think I'd like saying the contracts are equal. It's clear that Aaron Rodgers does not like Garrett Wilson.

That is clear.

Yeah. So get him a guy they like. I think maybe the Raiders have thrown.

A pick if they traded Hasan Reddick. I would like that move for the, for the Raiders to get that guy, because they would essentially be building an entire defense out of just pissing off Patrick Mahomes. Like we're going to build our defense just to beat the fuck out of this one guy.

It would work. I think you. I think you got to try to get Devontae Adams. Go all in. You're in an all in mindset, memes.

You're right. You're right. We should just get him. Get Hassan out. Not out of the building, just off the team.

He's not in the building.

Yeah.

He's never been in there.

Yeah. He literally doesn't even know what you guys look like. Yeah. What, do you got a question? PFD.

I had a question. Yeah, I had a question for me. Memes, do, do you still have Super bowl aspirations?

No, because Robert Salah can't prepare for more than two weeks. So we would just lose.

But Super Bowls in a dome.

It's in a dome. But he has time to prepare and he can't prepare.

It's too much time.

It's too much time.

Yeah.

If we won the AFC championship on a Sunday and played on Thursday, we win.

Yeah.

It's fair.

True. Unless the other team was coming from different times zone.

That's also true.

Yeah. All right, last game, Chiefs, Chargers. Chiefs 17. Chargers ten. The Chiefs own the Chargers this is the Chargers never beaten the Chiefs in LA. The Chiefs have beaten the Chargers eleven straight times on the road. That's pretty crazy. Eleven straight. And Justin Herbert was, you know, he key played, he gutted it out. No Joel, no Roshan Slater. It was pretty clear the Chargers offense was hampered. Couldn't really do anything after the first quarter. And then we had obviously Patrick Holmes, a big story. Patrick Holmes threw an interception and then fell into Rasheed Rice's knee and that looked bad.

Yeah. So Rasheed Rice is going to be out for a while. Andy Reid said doesn't look good. I don't know what the MRI is going to show, but probably nothing good for the Chiefs offense. And now they basically have Travis Kelsey and Xavier worthy.

Xavier Kelsey and no gray.

And no gray. And Carson Steele.

Ah, doghouse.

Crocky Jake dog house. Kareem Hunt.

No. Yeah. Carson Steele's dog house. He fumbled again.

Oh, yeah.

It was a second fumble in last three games. He's doghouse.

Dog house. What do alligators get put in when they fuck up?

I don't know.

Pair of boots.

Pair of boots? Yeah. Pair booze in a pair of boots. Yeah. It's P. Ryan and cream hunt until. Until he gets out of the doghouse.

So they got to figure out what they're going to do at wide receiver, though, because Devontae Adams. Devontae Adams, they would never. What if they got Chris Jones for Devontae Adams?

I don't think they would do that.

Probably not. But Chris Jones was a beast today.

Yeah. He's a monster.

Whatever. Whatever blocking scheme the Chargers dialed up to try to take care of him, it was one on one, I think, for the most part. And he was just fucking their lives up at the end.

It's also pretty clear that these Chiefs are just going to win every game, but just. It's going to be ugly.

Yeah.

Yeah. They were down ten. Nothing very fast this game.

Yeah. Oh, should we get this dial? Are the Chiefs frauds? They haven't beaten any really good teams.

Ravens.

That's right. They beat the Ravens, not fraud.

And the Bengals do you think are.

Back, but they weren't back when they played the Chiefs.

They were not dead, though.

That was those bangles. Not these bangles.

Yeah. No, the Chiefs, I think are just. They know how to win. Terror territory.

Yeah.

So speaking of which, Patrick Mahomes just had his hundredth career regular season start. How many wins does he have out of 182?

Close, I think. Oh, I was gonna say, I think hanks right?

78.

That's pretty good.

Pretty crazy. 78 and 22. That's nice.

That is very nice for Chiefs fans.

That's a lot, a lot, a lot of win.

He's so good. If it's a one possession game, the Chiefs are winning. Yeah, that's just how it goes.

If they're down at any point in the game, he's winning. I actually think I saw that stat, that he's the only quarterback to have a winning record overall down. I gotta find the stat. It was crazy. Down ten. He's like 13 and twelve.

That's insane.

Hold on. I gotta find this stat because it was nuts. Here, do it. Do an ad while I do it. Okay.

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Okay, I can't. I found an old one that's pretty crazy. That Patrick Mahomes is. Has a 58% winning percentage. This is from two years ago when losing by ten plus. And that's a better winning percentage than Joe Burrows overall winning percentage. I got to find the better one. I think it was like he's 13 and twelve now, I think when losing by ten. And there was a stat where Tom Brady Washington was 20 and 60 when losing by tens. Like, it just. It doesn't matter for him.

Yeah, he's. He's the best. And he hasn't had, statistically his best season.

No. And that pass to Xavier worthy was sick.

Stats are for losers. That pass to Xavier Worthy was. It was just back breaking. If you're a fan of any team, but the Chiefs, who might play the Chiefs in the playoffs.

Yeah.

Because you're like, we can't. We can't guard this guy.

We can't deal that. Do you think. Oh, twelve and he's. Twelve and. Oh. In games where they go down by exactly ten points. That's crazy.

Yeah.

How is that possible?

Because then he scores a touchdown, and then your defense or your offense then feels pressured, and then you punt the ball back, and then Harrison Bucker kicks a field goal from 60 yards also.

That was Jim Nance. That, and he was wrong.

Okay, but it sounds good.

18 and 14 overall when trailing by ten. Plus. That's crazy. Eight and five in games. Trailing by exactly ten at some point. Also crazy.

Yeah.

So it doesn't matter.

Can we see Rice go to Germany?

Yeah.

The autobahn over there.

It's kind of like if anyone else does that, it's not a big story.

Yeah.

Patrick Mahomes throws an interception and then takes out his best receiver in the same play. That's just Patrick Mahomes doing. Patrick Mahomes thinks.

Mm hmm. That's.

You have to admit, that is Patrick.

Mahomes stepping in when Goodell wouldn't.

Yeah. He's just. He's doing shit that no one could even think of.

Yeah. Lumber.

All right, so should we talk real quick about Monday Night Football? We had doubleheader and this one, I'm very happy we have a doubleheader, because if we had Titans, Dolphins alone. Yeah. We would be in a world of hurt.

Yep.

A world of hurt. So, any thoughts? I think the Lions are gonna be good. They're wearing their all black uniforms.

That's all I need to hear.

Yep.

I like the Lions.

And the other game, I don't have a fucking clue who's gonna win that game. Game.

Mm hmm.

Tyler Huntley, if he plays. Maybe the Dolphins.

Yeah. Scoop.

Scoop.

Is that what they call him? Snoop.

Snoop.

Snoop Huntley.

Who. Who knows who like that game stinks.

So, interesting fact here. Will Levis. So he's had some crazy Jamis slash, full blooded Josh Allen type turnovers, where he makes, like, really insanely athletic turnovers and does it in only ways that, like, a good athlete could do it. It. But they still look ridiculous. He's only had three turnover worthy plays this year. Oh, that's kind of weird, isn't it?

That is pretty.

So Will Levis might not be what.

Determines turnover were nerds.

Nerds that. That watch the game and then log it on a spreadsheet. I think a pro football focus. I think they're the ones that do it. Yeah, but take.

It's like Sam Donald had a turnover worthy play when he threw it to the packer at the beginning of the game today, but he just dropped.

So, like Hank, Patrick Mahomes is actually really good historically at throwing turnover worthy plays that aren't turnovers. And it might be because the defense is so surprised that Patrick Mahomes just threw them a possible interception. Yes, they freak out and they don't catch it. But I get the feeling like Hank doesn't believe in any of that.

No. Step. It's kind of the same turnover lock. No. Doesn't happen. All right, should we do? Should we do who's back of the week? Week? Let's see who's back the week. Brought to you by our friends at Coors. Like college football, is never short on intrigue, especially when they're iconic rivals. But you can add to the excitement. On Saturdays, Coors Light teamed up with draftkings, the free to play college football pick em pools, where you pick winners for a chance to win big. When the rivalries heat up, it's time to choose chill. And then reach for an ice cold Coors light. When you're looking to keep it chill, there's only one beer to choose. Coors light. The mountain on the bottles and cans even turn blue when your beer is cold. Cold Coors lays mountain cold refreshment. Coors lays cold lager, cold filtered and cold package. When the college football rivalries you're watching heat up, choose chill with Coors light and draftkings. Get Coors light delivered straight to your door with Instacart by going to Coors light.com. take 21 plus. Eligibility restrictions apply. Voidware prohibited sea terms@draftkings.com Coors light pick them. Celebrate responsibly. Coors Brewing company Golden, Colorado.

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The week is America. USA.

Yeah. We did it.

Oh, do we win?

We won one.

Might have jinx them on Friday after winning five o Thursday, they lost five on Friday, tied it up. But then we dominated Saturday, dominated Sunday, won the President's cup. Where the president's cup champions.

Hell that. Yeah.

Can we say world champions?

No, cuz we lost Ryder cup. Yeah, we're half of the world champions.

We gotta hold both cups.

What is the President's cup against. Who's it against?

Internationals.

So everybody except Europe. Asia.

Asia. Australia. Canada.

Mexico.

I think so.

South America.

I don't think there was South America.

VJ representation. Was VJ there? VJ show up.

BJ is not there. Be just on the senior tour.

VJ. That guys baller. He practiced so much.

You see Max home is shot today. No, the first going home, I had an eagle on one.

Fuck yeah.

Sick. Yeah, this does. Then we slamming brews keys on the course afterwards.

Hell yeah. Guys got so Ryder. Not the Ryder Cup.

Ryder Cups next fall. Confirmed.

You confirmed it?

Well, yeah, I just kind of made up when I thought the President's cup was. That was wrong, but I know for sure. And then the next year, 2026 Medina President's cup.

Love that.

Oh, nice.

Why? Why did the president decide that we're going to go up against NFL Sunday for his and cup? I don't know, cuz I think they teed off at noon, right?

Yeah, that was dumb. Yesterday was. Saturday was nice because they. They had it on in the morning and the afternoon, so just on all day. And then I was hoping Sunday they were gonna. I was gonna. It was gonna make a wake up. Eight to twelve. Golf and then football. But they didn't start till 1140, which was not the smartest.

I know there's no good way to fix this, but it is kind of bizarre that golf has golf on at the exact times that people want to be out playing golf.

Yeah, I've always thought that.

Night golf?

Yeah, night golf. Like you're built in fan base in Tiger.

Try do that. He did the. Did he do a duel indoor in the desert? I want to say duel in the desert.

Well, there they have the golf league coming out soon.

Duel in the desert.

Is that the one with live where they have the partnership in place?

No, this is the like indoor thing.

Yeah.

And Rory's company. It's gonna be great. Great.

Sick. Cool.

Hank, golf's back.

America.

Oh, yeah, I think I was right.

Do you have any pride?

What?

Do you have any.

I don't care about. I don't care about being Asia and what. Who else?

Australia. Canada.

No, we got to be Europe. That's where the fucking. Those are the guys that we had bad blood with. I want to beat. I want to beat Rory.

There were some very rude spectators this week at the golf. One guy said something disparaging about Scotty Scheffler's wife.

What?

And then Scotty Scheffler's caddy got up in his face had him kicked out.

Stuff on. Will. Fuck that guy.

Fuck. He'll. He will. Well, first he'll lick your butthole. Then he'll lick a clit. Then he'll fuck you up.

Yeah. Oh. It was Monday night golf. They did Monday night golf from 99 to 2005. They tried to do this. Tiger did. And they did a bunch of Monday night, like heads up battles. Battle of bighorn. Sounds like. Is it.

Is that game of thrones?

No, I was gonna say that.

Civil War battle.

Yeah. Bighorn. Yeah.

So why don't. Why don't they do night golf but on an actual outside course and use like a glow in the dark ball?

Yeah. They should tough to broadcast.

Cosmic golf.

Cosmic golf. But then you got to worry about if you're tiger semen on your pants.

That's true.

Black light show a lot. Okay. Pft. Your who's back.

My who's back the week. I have a Monday reading for this as well. Okay. Dumb rule changes. And this fits into Monday night football where we have the Miami Dolphins who are not playing so well right now. I don't know if we talked about this on this show. But this was a Reddit post from two. Looks like 273 three days ago.

Oh. Is this the tragedy?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Did we talk about that on this bike?

I think we did. But we could read it again.

I'll rehash a little bit. Should the Miami Dolphins kill five of their players?

Yeah.

To trigger a disaster draft to improve their roster.

Yeah.

The NFL disaster draft is a contingency plan to be used when five or more players on a team have died or been dismembered in the draft. The team whose players died will be able to draft the amount of players from other teams equivalent to how many they had lost. Other teams though are only allowed to protect five players from being drafted. But many teams have good six men that are available. With the Dolphins having bad contracts on underperforming players such as Xavian Howard. But they could also just kill backups or practice squad players to fill out those five kills to get the disaster draft. Also according to Roger Goodell. The team would also get the first pick in next year's draft. Now this next draft class isn't crazy so I could understand their hesitancy. And being a repeat offender. That is. Killing five players on your team could raise some eyebrows. But this could still greatly improve the Dolphins. What do you guys think? And should any other teams do this? And who should they kill?

Listen. Bears could do it for some offensive.

Lineman dirt the entire line. Yeah. I MEAN, I love. I love these fan loopholes that they find disaster, like, like the former ring around steph curry guys.

Yeah.

The Reddit geniuses. There is something. And when your team is in a bad spot, sometimes you just need to start writing fan fiction for yourself.

Yeah. I mean, this obviously was probably put in place for, like, a airplane tragedy or something. Yeah. But we ended up with Just fans being like, what if we just killed SOme of our players?

I think it is interesting that they have a disaster draft.

Yeah.

That's a contingency that they have in place. My other who's back of the week is soupy. It's soup season.

Nice.

I had soup twice this weekend.

Hell, yeah.

Ramen and foxenhouse. The weather's starting to change a little bit. October's here. I'm thinking soup. Yeah, I'm just, I'm Just eating soup. And I might go back to the soup and salad diet every day, which is a great way to lose weight.

I love that.

Eat soup or salad for every meal.

I love that soup. So I'm in with you.

Soup is delicious.

What's the weather tomorrow?

Forecast is soup.

Okay, I'm in. I got to. I got two. Whose backs? One is, well, we just need to. We're going to talk college football on Wednesday. But that Georgia Alabama game was so fucking good, and Ryan Williams was literally in the matrix. Some of the moves he made were insane.

His spin moves are the complete opposite of Trevor Lawrence's.

I've never seen anyone that he had his back to the defenders like he was playing post up pickup basketball in an SEC football game and still just did a quick move and then got out of it.

Yeah. Credit to Georgia for battling back because a lot of teams would have quit at that point. Down to Alabama.

The dogs.

The question has to be asked about the boar. Are the Crimson Tide better without Nick Saban? Was Nick Saban holding Alabama back?

There were two gentlemen sitting on this couch to do our college football preview, and they laughed at the idea that Alabama could be really good with Jalen Milro and Kalen Dubois as his coach.

I like Jalen Miller a rot a lot.

He's great. He's grown on me a lot.

Dynamic.

Yes. I. You shouldn't be able to run sideways in an SEC football game and get away with it. Yeah. And he does it multiple times a game because he's that fast.

Yeah. Carson Beck tried to run sideways a couple times. Didn't work.

No, no. I have a theory on Carson Beck. I think the, I think the tattoos are too much for a quarterback. So it's just not a quarterbacks.

Look, you sound like Jerry Richardson, but I agree, it's not if you have tattoos on your throwing arm.

Right. That tells you.

That tells me that you definitely took at least a few hours away from practice.

Correct? Correct. All right. And then my other who's back is our dingers only league because tomorrow we have the Mets Braves doubleheader. And the Mets Braves doubleheader will be huge because he decides if them. If they split. Split, they both go to the playoffs. So they should do a gentleman's agreement. If one team wins both games, the Diamondbacks will join that team who's won both games in the playoffs. But right now, our dingers only is set in the fact that Max is so, so bad. He was 40 home, almost 40 home runs in last place. So Max will be pitching. We'll be doing a video. Max will be pitching. Trying to get. Get six outs against a college baseball team.

Reach out.

Reach out. Hit us up.

The worst part for Max is that he's not going to have Max in center field for him.

Correct.

Because Max was the star of last year's.

Correct. And then second place is the catcher, and right now, pft is in second place. He's up one on me. But I have Marcel Azuna playing in.

A doubleheader tomorrow, so we could tie.

Or I could win.

You could win.

Or I could lose.

Or you could lose. And it's all in Azuna.

Yeah. I would rather lose.

And what terrifies, he's a much, much better baseball player than he is a human being.

Yes. And I don't want to catch again.

Yeah. So I think that pitching is better than catching.

Yeah. Big time.

Hank, do you agree? You seem to nod your head.

Yeah.

Aggressive.

You're a catcher or a pitcher. You are. Okay. Nice.

Yeah. Max, you still bring the heat?

No, never did.

Oh, okay. I like this Max.

That's fine, though.

He's just subdued with like a. He's just got a hangover sitting on top of his brain. And he's like. You can see him get angry, but his brain is working so slow that he can't fully get there.

Yeah. That you're.

You're.

You just hit the nail.

It's great. I don't know, it's a, like, I wouldn't want it all the time, but it's like a. We almost have a lobotomized Max.

Yeah. Max, are you gonna train for this?

No. What?

No.

Because you might have to throw a lot of pitches.

That's fine. I've thrown, thrown a lot of pitches in my day.

Okay.

You got this, Max.

It'll be, yeah, it'll be. I'll be. I'll probably. I mean, I'll get smoked, but it'll be, it'll be fun. It'll be fun.

Yeah. It doesn't sound like it's gonna be fun.

No, it was fun last year, though, when Max was in center field.

Yeah. Out there for a while.

Yeah. All right, let's wrap up numbers.

511 40.

You'll talk. Carl Anthony Towns, quick.

Oh, yeah.

On Friday, it was reported that Cat is going to be traded to the Knicks in exchange for Dante and who? Julius Randall.

Julius Randall, yes.

Yeah. So, memes, you're a fan of the Knicks. Was your initial reaction like mine, which was basically, that cat could not be a worse fit for this team?

My initial reaction was, good. And then the follow up tweet was Dante DeVincenza was in it. And then I was immediately sad.

Yeah.

But Dante Devincenzo apparently was, like, the one, the out member of, like, he wasn't. He was the fourth member of the Nova Knicks.

Yeah, but he was just such a stud last year and such a solid piece.

What do you think? Cat is a bad fit just because New York is just gonna eat him alive?

I think Tibbs is gonna eat him.

Alive, but he already had him as a coach. Yeah, that was more Jimmy Butler.

I guess I just don't see kat fitting in with his Knicks team. Maybe I might be very wrong about this.

I do think New York's gonna eat him a lot.

I've had much worse sports takes in my life.

No, I mean, I agree that it was weird when I saw it, but then I was reading, there was some report that was like, dante DeVincenzo kind of wanted it because he was. He was basically, he had this incredible run last year at the end of the season, and then he was get bench minutes.

He wants to go be the guy.

And everyone's gonna be like, nova Knicks. Nova Knicks. He's like, I don't really want to do this anymore more.

Is that true?

That's what I read.

That is like, maybe.

Maybe Nova teammates aren't as tight as some people let us to believe.

I think the Josh Hart, Jalen Brunson.

And Dante also had, like, kind of beef with Josh Hart at some point. Yeah, during his tenure at Nova. So they said that they squashed it.

But Josh Hart, Jalen Brunson, Mikhail, Miguel Bridges, that's the three. That's the Nova Knicks.

Yeah.

Dante is on the outside.

So when you say that New York is going to eat him live, what do mean?

I think Knicks fans are going, I mean, they were really mean to Julius Randall. And like, if Cat, I just don't envy dominates.

Oh, is that true, cat?

Oh, that's nice, Maxie. That's nice.

Yeah, the numbers are crazy.

That's nice.

What are the numbers?

I think and beat is eight and two against him, and he's averaging like 30 something a game. And Kat's average is like 21. Like, it's not. Let me pull it up.

That's nice. So, memes, your thoughts after looking at the lineup?

I think we do match up well against the number one team in the east, which is the Celtics now, and that's the goal of the trade. You match up against the best team, see how you fit and go from there.

We should ask Hank first. That was a bad job on my part. Hank, how do you feel about this trade?

I don't think it affects much. I think New York's going to eat cat alive to the cat's point. And I don't see them, you know, solid team. Great. Embiid will probably take his knees out as well, and I'm not worried about them in the playoffs.

They're eating the cats in New York City.

Yes. I mean, he's, Carl think down is a really good player, and he does. I would say the spacing probably should work a little bit better for Jalen Brunson. You'd think, right, Memes?

Yes, you would think. We currently also don't have Senator cuz and be, you know, twisted his knee.

Embiid twisted his knee.

Yeah, he twisted his knee. And you guys lost heart.

And son Hardenstein's on OKC.

Yeah, the thunder did indeed really twist someone's knee.

Contact game.

Contact game. All right, good, good call. Memes numbers, 540. 1129. 399 per Pft. And memes, you ever gotten this?

I've not gotten it.

21.

74. See everyone on Wednesday talking baseball.

Love you guys.