Transcript of Spice Adams In Studio, NFL Week 3 Picks And Preview, Shohei 50/50, Aaron Rodgers Is Back And Fyre Fest Of The Week

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He looked good. He looked good tonight even. It was vintage Aaron Rodgers getting into with his coach a little bit on the sidelines after throwing a touchdown passed. I don't know what that was. We could, we can speculate. It's fun to speculate games. I'm curious to hear when you saw that, what did you think?

Well, before, before memes answers that Pft. First of all, PfT for the first ten minutes, the show is on Zoom because he's in Austin for put punk. Go check him out tonight. Rest of the show we're in studio before he explains it that actually it was a verbal meme. Robert Salah is Hank and Aaron Rodgers is memes because they got in a tussle earlier today, too. So there's a lot of tension going into tonight's game. But memes, how are you doing with Hank and how are you doing with Aaron Rodgers going after Robert Salah?

Which one should I do first?

Whichever one you want.

I think me and Hank are good.

There's no problem.

There's no problem. I just get really fired up during these days and then I, I take things wrong a lot.

Yeah. Pft. I walked into the gambling cave tonight and memes was, he was the Arthur meme. He was holding with his fist just like trembling. And I was like, what's up, memes? How you doing? He's like, nothing. I just wanted to fight Hank earlier, and I was like, oh, okay, cool. Sounds good.

A bit that I saw, it looked like he wanted to fight Mincy, too.

Yeah.

Memes was doing a lot. He had to kick a lot of ass tonight.

Yeah.

No, Mincey did a good job.

Yeah. Yeah. The blind. I mean, the game was so bad. The jets were so much better than the Patriots, that we had to do the blindfold. But memes address the Robert Salah and Aaron Rodgers beef.

There is no beef.

Okay. Similar to you and Hank.

Yes.

Zero beef there. They were just talking it out. I imagine Aaron Rodgers wanted to run something else on the, on the down before. I didn't see it because I was blindfolded. I also didn't see the push, but I'm sure everything's fine.

Okay.

That's probably not far off from what really happened, because Aaron Rodgers looked like he did not want to run anything. The jets were calling for him. Aaron Rodgers just wants to run the Aaron Rodgers coached offense. So he was, you could see on the sidelines. Hackett didn't look happy either. Hackett, like, they were. They were beating the shit out of the Patriots. And Hackett had this 100 meters stare on his face where he was just like, I guess this is good because we're winning, but, like, it'd be nice if they use my ideas.

Yeah, it was. Where's Max going? Oh, Max is fixing something. The. The Patriots are bad. I think, hank, you can officially say you're all the way out. I think we're going to look back at week one. That will be our week one. Circle that game and be like, whoa, what happened there?

Well, and over the Bengals, we almost were 20.

Yeah, but it was. The jets are just way better. I mean, they moved the ball easily down the field. The Patriots offensive line is horrendous. I actually now agree with Hank that you probably shouldn't have. Drake may out there because he'll get killed. Even though he did play mop up duty and didn't look.

There's still 46 seconds left in this game.

Okay.

I would love to be the first, the first person on this podcast with a rookie QB touchdown.

I would not like that.

No, they looked. They looked horrible. Their offensive line, like, looked worse than the Bears. He didn't. Kobe never had more than 1 second to throw. They missed a ton of tackles on defense. Aaron Rodgers, it really did feel like bizarro world, watching one of the best quarterbacks just do whatever he wants.

With.

Doesn't feel good, huh? Every third down doesn't feel good, Hank.

Every.

Doesn't feel good.

No, it doesn't. It feels helpless.

It does.

Feels helpless.

Certainly does.

What's your attitude towards fans of Aaron Rodgers right now that are just like, yeah, I'm better than you because my quarterback's better.

They are. They're, they're right.

I would feel the same way. I get it. Like, if you're the jets, you're, you're, you're just thinking yoffs. You're thinking, you know what's going to happen.

Yeah.

For sure. I will say that I agree. Jacoby Brissette is, is the right person to be starting. Jacoby Brissette fills a very valuable role, which is just to stand there and take a beating and look semi competent while beating it. So, like Drake May, if you were in there, he would take a beating and not look competent while doing it. This Kobe is good at taking shots and occasionally completing a couple passes.

This is going to be such bullshit. He's going to throw a touchdown pass. Pft. He's about to throw a touchdown pass or not even. Oh, they sacked him. Just stop. Don't let this happen. Hank is going to just be the worst about this. Helmet came up. He's got to come off the field. I wish it was college rules. We. Sorry. Pft. I was, I was focused on the fact.

Let me say the whole thing.

Well, just going to have that moment over us forever. If he had thrown a touchdown jump pass there. Yeah. What were you gonna say?

No, I would say that Jacobi Brissette is the right choice to be starting back there because he fills a very valuable role, which is to stand back there, be robust, take a beating, and then get up and then complete the next pass after he gets the shit kicked out of him.

Yes.

Whereas Drake may, if you were back there, he would get the shit kicked out of him and then looking competent afterwards.

Yes. Yes. So, Hank, this actually was a blessing for you, because now it's, you're all the way out. Yeah, it's back to tank mode. Yeah.

We have no offensive line, bad defense, rookie.

Rookie head coach.

What can you expect with a team like this?

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No.

Golf season is over. I'm just, you know, I'm thinking hungry dogs. I'm looking at hungry dogs. Trying to win some bets.

Yeah.

Paying attention to the, to the draft boards, so.

Well, the good news is you won't have to watch them on Sunday. But then in, in the subsequent weeks, is there a world where we don't have the Patriots game on tv? And you would be okay with that?

Yeah.

I mean, I'd probably just go watch it somewhere else. I don't know, but, yeah. And in week of it, if it's week eight and we're one in six.

Next week is at 49 ers.

Yeah.

I mean, that's blind.

Dolphins, Texans blood.

Yeah, that's, uh. I'm not gonna be able to get up for any of those games.

Yeah.

Yeah, you are true. I was up for this game.

I was, I was up for this game. I was thinking again, like, I love beating the jets, beating the Dolphins, beating the bills division opponent. We've had their number forever. Memes was the, the tension was, becomes. Memes was nervous that it was gonna keep happening.

Yeah.

No, he thought he had the boogeyman.

On his mind, was in an impossible spot tonight. Pft. Because he was, he was hedgesthe lives and dies with jets. He knows this window is very small with Aaron Rodgers. And Hank was sitting there like, I might not even be in on this season. So if the Patriots somehow beating the jets with memes, like, ready to fight Hank, it could have, it could have gotten physical and I said it during the stream, but memes is probably the top of my list of, of people who work in this office who, I could see them getting in a fistfight in this office, and then me being like, hey, what happened? And like, I don't know, man. I'm sorry. Things just got away from me, and I just play. All right. Yeah, the jets. The Jets happened.

Hank looked, I would completely understand. Now, Hank, this is like further education of how to be a loser, and you're going to have to listen to me and be catch advice on this. But one thing that you're going to get into as a fan of a losing team is you're just going to have, have to, like, scratch and claw to find joy. So there might be one good team that you guys will beat, and maybe you'll beat them next year, and maybe you'll beat them the year after that. And some reason, you always beat one really good team. Then at the end of the day, you could be like, yeah, well, guess what? It's like what the dolphins used to do to you. No matter how bad the Dolphins were, they could be like, yeah, well, we always beat the Patriots. So you're going to have to figure out what that maybe it's the Bengals. Maybe you just, maybe you guys just have the Bengals number, and you can start feeling happy about that.

Any division win would be. Would be fun because it would piss off, you know, dolphins, bills, jets all play off contending teams. I guess dolphins, maybe not, but either way, seasons over.

Seasons over. Memes, your team looks awesome.

That win was very delicious.

Ooh, delicious.

All the insult stats were going around. We were own seven on primetime games against New England. There's no Bill Belichick anymore.

So, wait, was this the first time you guys beat them in a decade?

I believe so.

Oh, my.

On prime.

Wait, you didn't beat him? Oh, no, no. But when did you beat. Did you beat him last year?

Final game. Bill Belichick's final game as a patriot.

That's right. That's right. That was when you. When you did that. Okay, so, yeah, this. This is good for you, memes. You you got your swagger back. It feels like all the angst from week one is. Is gone. Now you're two in one. You had an impossible start to the schedule in the fact that you played three games in ten days. Yep. And now you get the Broncos at home.

Broncos at home. Hopefully start three and one.

Yeah. Broncos, Vikings at home, bills at home. You guys might start rolling a little.

Offense looks good.

Yeah.

Defense started to look good today.

Yeah.

Special teams is firing. We have a good offensive line.

Yeah.

Morgan Moses going down was troublesome.

That was bad, especially because we were blindfolded for that.

A lot of people are saying, what? Best case, best case scenario is MCL spraying.

Okay, that's not good.

And then worst case scenario is just his entire knee.

Oh. But you have a first round pick that is coming in as back. Yeah.

Olufano.

Yeah.

Max said he's the best offensive line.

Yeah.

And you guys did blitz a lot tonight, so it's not like you missed having a dominant pass rusher. You blitz way more than Robert Salah has ever blissed, I think, in his entire career as a head coach.

Yeah.

I think we're fifth in the league in defensive pressures.

Wow. That's what happens when you get Bryce Huff off your team. He was very good.

And then once we saw sign Hassan.

Watch out. Hyperdrive, hyper drive. You don't want to say, do you think.

Do you think this win makes it more likely or less likely that you'll sign Hassan Reddick in the next week?

Less likely because we play the Broncos.

Yeah.

The window to sign him is before the Vikings week or lose the Vikings and then sign him right after.

Okay. That's the plan.

So you have a loss scheduled and then to sign him. Yeah. Okay.

That, like, wouldn't be the worst loss is what you're saying.

Or load up before the Vikings with him and then beat the Vikings.

Got it. Okay. I like that. Yeah, it was, it was an ugly, terrible game. It was Thursday night. Football is all the way back and the jets look good. And Hank, it's over. We should talk quickly. Two other things before we do our NFL preview. Shohei. Oh, Tani went 50 50. He's actually 51. 51 now. He had three home runs, six for six, three home runs, ten RBI's. The dude is just insane. I don't really know what else to say. Besides he's the best baseball player in the world. And it's crazy that he could be of all time. I mean, if he keeps doing his career and there still is, is there still like an outside chance he could maybe pitch this, this postseason? I know that he was, he was practicing in the bullpen. Like, he's done all of this. He's 51. 51. Never been done in MLB. And oh, yeah, when he decides he wants to pitch again, he's like three Era pitcher.

Yeah, it's, it's actually insane. I'd say that this. He is the best baseball player of all time. Whether or not he'll have the best career of all time is kind of up for grabs. But we've never seen anybody that's doing what he's doing. It's insane. 50 home runs, 50 stolen bases. If he was starting pitcher, he would be one of the probably top ten starter in the entire MLB. It's crazy. It's crazy how good it. We're almost getting desensitized. But shout out to the guy that caught the 50th home run because he just left the stadium. He's like, I'm not giving it back. I'm not talking to anybody. Here's my number, and you can reach me. You can contact me through my lawyer. And I know that show he's got money. I know what his contract is. He's got so much money that he could afford to be swindled out of what, like $5 million and not miss it. So, yeah, I'll just hang on to this at home. Give me a call and make me an offer.

So wait, was that Darren Revelle? Because that is his advice that he always gives to everyone. If you catch a consequential home run, just leave the stadium right then and there and do not let anyone negotiate with you. So it might have been revel who caught it.

It might have been revel or maybe Revellus's agent. Maybe, maybe click has gotten into the agent business.

I wouldn't, I wouldn't be surprised, but yeah. Insane, insane season.

Listen, Dodgers, I'm not going to speak with you about this. You can talk to my clit.

That's, that's what Ro would say. He's just the best. It's the best. And I can't wait for the Dodgers to lose in the first round and then everyone to complain and say the playoff structure is broken, but we'll always have this. 51 51 from show high.

I mean, it is pretty impressive. It's crazy.

It's, it's crazy. It's crazy. And in the last story, Woj has retired. So this happened on Wednesday afternoon. WOJ is retiring. He is. If you, if you followed along what, like Shefty and some of the other insiders said, you would have thought that Woj had just done 30 years in at war with how they were describing it. Shefty was laying it on pretty thick. That's. Add that to the list of things that we're going to make fun of him for at the combine. But WOJ is retiring. He's going to be the general manager of St. Bonaventure's basketball and he's getting his life back. He's getting his life back.

Yeah. I mean, Woj was the greatest to ever do it when it comes to the NBA scoop game, that's for sure. Like Shams big time come up for Shams having wode step away now. It's like a one man show.

Price went up.

Was Shams part of the reason? Why would stepped away?

Because Woj didn't like the competition.

I don't know if it was competition, but Shams, you know, is McAfee's insider on ESPN. And they used to take little shots at him. I don't know, maybe.

I think if Shams was any of the reason why, it's just because he made wood have to work so hard. Because Woj could coast before Sean's was around. But iron sharpens iron. And in this case, I think he proved himself. Like, I would say Woj was still the number one NBA insider over the last couple years. But that, like we talked to him and the hours that he has to put in, it's insane. So he's essentially retiring from a dream job to take another dream job being the general manager for his alma mater, right?

Yeah.

With the school there. And I think his job is just going to be. Tweetdennesse about a recruit, just like tag a recruit on Twitter and it goes out to his six and a half million followers. And then the recruits like, damn, that's awesome. Woj just tweet about me.

Yeah, it's nice.

I'll go to St. Bond adventure.

It's a big come up for St. Bonnie's. Yeah, no, he's gonna, he's gonna do the nil roster management, possibly, but good for him. He's, he gets his life back. It was, it was tough sledding, you know, being the insider. And it actually, I mean, we interviewed Wojdeh. We obviously are friends with Schefter. We've had Shams on. We like him as well. Their jobs do seem miserable in terms of the fact that they can just never turn off their phone. Yes.

Yeah, exactly. He's got multiple phones that he always has to have on. He has to stay up late all the time. He just lives in constant fear of getting scooped by somebody.

Yeah. And I think Shams will probably go to ESPN, right? Because like I said, he is friends with McAfee and he's, he seems like the, the top free agent now. Like ESPN's got to scoop him up.

Yeah, I guess so. I mean, I don't know. The price for Shams definitely went up.

Yeah. What we're going to say, do you.

Think Woj will still break news?

I think, whoa.

Definitely.

If he gets something that could piss off shams. I bet you he would.

I think that he's, it's just that he's not going to be, like, pressed to break everything. But if he gets, if he gets a piece of information, what's stopping him from still doing the job?

Yeah, that's true. That's. I mean, yeah. Why? Yeah. If he has all the contacts, if someone just sends him something, you would think he's got. Yeah. I mean, he has to have relationships where they're like, I'm still only gonna send you stuff. It was funny, though. ESPN. Yeah. Had their like, panel of news breakers reacting to WoJ's retirement. It was passing. It was Schefter, it was Pete Dammel. And Schefter said this. He wanted his life back. He didn't want to have to work on holidays. He didn't want to be away from more family gatherings. He didn't want to have to take a shower with your phone up against the shower door so you can see a text that's coming in. Or take that sentence right there, like he could have just been jerking off. Or take your phone with you to the urinal and hold it in one hand while you take care of your business in the other. That's a life that we live. Come on, Shafty.

WOJ, thank you for your service. WoJ, you showered with your cell phone.

Oh, man. I wonder if Shefty is going to maybe see it. Like, this is when. Yeah, this is. This is like Shawshank. He leaves the prison. He's like, man, there's life on the outside. Got to get out of here. Got to meet up. Shefty and Woj meeting at a beach, you know, five years from now, being, like, finally there.

I actually think it's more likely that Shefty will start breaking more NBA news.

Yeah, he might, because he probably had.

Some, but he usually would, you know, defer that to wo. It's because that's. You didn't want to step on his toes. But Shefty was doing, like, sidelines at NBA games. He was breaking. He was dabbling in it. He was checking it out. Yeah, there could be vacuum there.

I could see, you know, an upstart young buck come out of nowhere. And that's the person who's actually just. Oh, ghost feeding all of his. All the scoops.

Because I do think Sean's gonna go to ESPN, but, yeah, he could watch. Could.

Like, if woj.

If watch if there is beef, and there probably definitely is, like, woj will just be like, I'm out. And then all of a sudden, someone new is gonna come.

So just like, Alfred. And he finds a Batman.

Yeah.

Kind of thing. He's just setting him up.

He's just.

He's living with this guy, and he's just like, this is how you do it.

Could be one of Shepherd's kids.

Yeah, I think. Yeah, his daughter's in the business, so why not just start dominating everyone? It's. It was just. It was just very funny. Because we do like Woj, but, like, come on, dude. Like, to add, not even to watch. Woj, I'm happy for. But, like, anyone who reacted saying, like, man, I can't believe this. Like, he wanted to get his life back. It's like, okay, he also got paid a lot of money to do a job that's a, you know, pretty cool. It's pretty fun. Yeah.

But to even act like it's somebody that's been, like, an athlete for 30 years, stepping away from it. His athletic feats were. Yeah. Showering and not slipping and dropping his phone and cracking it. Staying up for 17 hours at a time to break news. Breaking news about athletes.

Yes.

So it's a little bit different. And then the graphic that everybody was tweeting out that just said like 30 on it. Yeah, I guess I'm supposed to know what the 30 means.

So funny. All right, let's, let's, let's get some football talk. Let's kick it to ourselves. PFT will be back in studio. We taped this earlier in the day. Let's do football. And then we got Spice Adams and Fyre Fest. Okay, before we get to our weekend preview, game time football season is here and we can't wait to get out to some games this fall. With the help of game time, the official ticketing partner, Barstool Sports. You know how much we love game time. Now with their brand new game time picks feature, they're making it even easier to get to a game. Game time picks filters out the fluff to show you only incredible deals on great seats so you don't have to waste time searching through thousands of tickets. PFT is going to the commanders versus bengals on Monday night. I'm looking right now, I hit the GT picks. I'm seeing you can sit basically 40 yard line, $235 with GT picks as a great deal. You can all sit up top, which is my favorite place to sit. 50 yard line, $158. So that's all with game time. In the GT picks, you pull up your chosen event, turn on the GT pick setting at the top of the screen, or browse the best local game time picks deals near you on your game time app homepage.

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Yep. Touchdowns are down.

Everyone's blaming the two high safeties. And I actually read an article. No big deal. Not trying to brag, but essentially deep passes still work, but offenses are taking the bait with the two high safeties and just, they're running the ball into light boxes and it's just not, it's not as effective. So teams that are still willing to push the ball downfield are doing okay. It's just that everyone's like oh, well, I guess we'll just, we'll dink and dunk and we'll run the ball, and it's just not working as well.

I feel like there are ways around that, too. I feel like offenses can adapt to it.

Well, it's offenses that are doing a lot of motion. The Saints, the 49 ers, some of these offenses that are trying to confuse the defense are still very effective, but there's a lot of offenses that are like, oh, light box, let me run. Oh, the run isn't really working, but we're going to keep doing it because that's what they're giving us, so stop taking the bait.

Well, check down Mahome. Check down Patty. That's where, that's how he lives and dies. By the checkdown.

Yeah. So through two weeks, we've had 29 QB's throw the ball at least 20 times with under 200 yards passing. Yes. It's pretty crazy. That's the most for any season since 2008, and the second most for any start to the season since 1990. In weeks one and two, only 17, the 64 quarterbacks have gone over one and a half passing touchdowns in a game. Again, these are nothing because we have rookie quarterbacks that have not thrown touchdowns, but these are just stats.

It's a league wide issue.

Yeah. There are also 24 QB's with one or fewer passing touchdowns with 20 plus pass attempts in week one, the most since the merger in 1970. There you go.

It's not our fault.

And there have only been 5300 yard passing games so far this season, which is kind of crazy. Through two weeks.

Listen, take what the defense gives you.

In the craziest part is, can you guys give us, can you name the top four guys currently? Obviously, it's two weeks small sample size. Top four guys in passing touchdowns.

Top four guys passing touchdown. So Baker is.

Yes.

Okay, that's yes. Baker Darnold, Josh.

No, it's Baker Mayfield.

Kyler Tua.

Kyler Murray to a no. The last is Derek Carrhe. So think about this. Think about if we were sitting here in August and we were like, hey, through two weeks, who's going to be the top of the leaderboard in passing touchdowns? And I said, derek Carr, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darno and Kyler Murray, you would have been. You would have said, you don't know ball.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, Kyler, I think we, we kind of predicted that Kyler was going to have a good year.

I mean, that I'm still, I'm still buzzing off of that first half against the Rams because that was some of the best quarterback play I've ever seen.

Yeah. Kyler, when he's not thinking, when he's just going. He's so fun to watch.

So incredible.

He had that one touchdown pass where he started. He did the Steph Curry. Yeah, he threw it. Started celebrating before it was caught.

Yeah.

And we might have a new. A new title holder for the dumb rules. So it was Mike Greenberg's dumb rules whenever he would try to fix baseball. Every year. Mel Kuiper had dumb rules. Today, Mel Kiper's dumb rule is to ban the too high safety formation on defense. Defense can't have anything.

Stick to the draft, buddy.

Yeah. Mel Kiper is not there to give takes. Mel Kuiper is there to tell me, like, who is going to be the best quarterback drafted in 2027?

It's also exactly what I said. This article that I read, again, not a brag, but it's not the too high safety. It's that teams are taking the bait for it. Yeah. Like, still push the ball downfield. You can still be successful. You're just taking the bait and doing exit. You're playing into their hands. Stop doing that.

I also like taking what the defense gives you, though.

Yeah, but it's too much of that.

It's too much of it.

Too much of it. All right, so great slate. We'll do our picks at the end.

I hate the two Monday night games. I hate it on Monday night when it's going on, when it's concurrent.

I love it.

You do? Yeah. I don't like it.

I don't want tv guy, so I love it.

I like having the one game that everybody's watching. It's kind of nice.

You're kind of come across as a one tv.

I have two tvs.

Okay. All right, well, then that.

What's the wins, Hank? We're making your faces already because, hey.

Can I earn lockstep here? And we've heard a couple people complain. Jerry was complaining. Someone else was complaining. I was like, dude, no offense, but you're coming across as a one tv guy, and that's a little embarrassing. Speaker zero. You're talking.

That's Jerry. I've got two tvs. I can watch two games at the same time. I do watch two games at the same time. I'm a little offended by Hank. Stupid fucking face. No, you got. You've seen the second tv in the basement.

I guess that was. I spent a while.

I have it set up. It's not on the wall, but I've got two tvs, ones on its own table so I can go man mode and watch two tvs at the same time.

Hank, also, with YouTube tv, you only need one now because you could just play the mix.

That's true. Hank, I've been to your house. You only have one tv.

I have a one tv guy.

Oh, you are.

Yeah.

So you're. This is projecting, dude.

I'm not.

I'm not. I don't like it, either, but.

But he's also not a football.

See, Hank, when you. When you were saying that only one tv thing, he was like, ew, gross. That's you. You're closeted one tv guy.

Yeah.

Not a football fan.

Yeah.

So it doesn't matter. I was.

I was three tvs control center for five years, and I just. I grew out of it.

Yeah.

You grew out of the multi tv phase.

Yeah.

So the only night of the year where I'm like, damn, I wish I.

Had two tvs, but you want to come over?

Yeah, maybe.

I don't. I don't like the two games at the same time. I like having the. The tradition, the. The routine on Monday nights of having one game that I pay attention to.

No, I love it and treat.

But the only reason why I do like it. I don't like it on Monday nights, but I like just having one less game on Sunday going on at the same time.

I like it. I wouldn't. I wouldn't like it every single week. I like that they do it, you know, once or twice a year. It's a nice little treat.

They should also switch the games, kind of like, I wish it was Bills Bengals.

Yeah. No, Bills Bengals. Commanders, Jags would be perfect setup.

Yeah.

And just start commanders Jags at, like, 10:00.

Yeah, yeah. And whenever the Jags are playing in prime time, it should be against the Tennessee Titans, and it should be on a Thursday night.

Yeah, I like it. Just because you are guaranteed some type of drama on Monday night where it's like, there's nothing worse than a Monday night football, where you just get a blowout when you have two games, there's chances are you're gonna get at least something good.

Yeah, we are. The commanders are on blowout alert. Yeah, for sure.

So with the Jags. All right, so let's get some games. Let's talk some games. These are early games. Houston Texans going to the Minnesota Vikings. Two and overs. Two and. Oh, did you see that? Aaron Jones is trying to basically bring the Lambo leap to Minnesota. Now, I don't like that calling it the bank vault. Okay.

That's a good name. It's a good.

Like that.

Now I'm kind of in on it just because it's got a sick name.

I had the same exact thought where it's like, you can't just do that. But the bank vault is sick.

The bank vault is really nice. The only problem is there's a lot of teams that play in bank named stadiums, so they could kind of co op that.

But he was the first to it. It makes me want to bet him to score a touchdown just so we can see the bank fall.

It does. I kind of, I kind of like how Aaron Jones has also fallen into the. Just the visual lookalike of the Minnesota Vikings running back situation.

Yes.

For the last like four years.

Yes.

It's, it's, it looks like the same guy this year. It's Aaron Jones and he's playing pretty well. Sam Darnold is maybe will definitely come back player of the year at this point.

Right. At this point. Through two weeks.

Yeah. If Ricky Pearsall gets on the field, it's probably gonna be him.

Yeah.

But through two weeks, it's Sam. And these two teams also have the league leaders in sacks.

Who.

How about that? The two team leaders inside.

Also Neil Hunter revenge game.

The Neil Hunter revenge game. And also Jonathan Greener revenge game because he left the Texans for the Vikings.

By the way, speaking of Minnesota running backs, do you guys know where Dalvin Cook is now?

Cowboys.

Yeah, he's on. The Cowboys. Didn't, didn't realize that they're working them in. They have a running back. I. Mike McCarthy is essentially decided his strategy for running backs this year is everyone who doesn't do any fantasy research and they show up to their draft and like, I know that name.

Yeah.

Like, I think I drafted Tony Gonzalez like seven years later than he should have been drafted because I saw the name is like, well, he's got to be still be good.

Well, the Cowboys got two of them.

Yeah. That's what his whole running back committee.

Which I kind of like.

Yeah.

I respect that.

He's, he's just doing, he's just doing old running backs that you kind of recognize and he's like, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. So he, if he, like, I. I think Chris Johnson could still give him some yards.

He's fast, right?

Yeah. And I wouldn't be shocked if they brought him in.

Adrian Peterson.

Yeah, absolutely.

Put him on the field.

Like, if you combine just a bunch of old guys that used to be dominant, I. In my dumb brain will say one of them will end up popping running back by committee.

Except like one of has a healthy right leg. One of them has a healthy left leg.

Yes. Yes. So I'm excited for this game because I think it's going to be a pretty big test of, like, which one. I think the Texans are for real. I actually think the Vikings might be for real, too, but this is, this feels like a game where the winner of this, we're going to be saying, whoa, three and o, looking really good. Kind of control of their division, too, because, you know, three and, oh, we'll see what happens with the lions and the packers and the Bears. But at least the Texans, if they're a three and o, that's going to be a very big lead that everyone else in their division is. Oh, and two, I am very interested to see how CJ Stroud does against Brian Flores defense because did you see after the game, Brock Purdy was like, you guys were just confusing the fuck out of. Yeah.

That's what Brian Flores does.

He does. Right.

And he doesn't even always have to blitz to do it. Sometimes he just fakes a blitz and he does that thing where the quarterback thinks that they're going to be under pressure, then they're not.

Yeah.

Then they just panic and the four rushers can get home. So CJ Stroud, last year we started to do this. We shouldn't be doing it yet, but we should start thinking about it. Asking the classic Nick Wright question of is he throwing enough interceptions? So no interceptions. He did not throw many interceptions last year.

He tried to throw a couple against the Bears.

Well, yeah, I think he leads the league in turnover worthy throws. He's just getting a lot of, I love that he's getting some, some interception luck on that.

Yep.

But we'll say this, if he goes like two more games, no interceptions, then we start to say CJ Stroud doesn't throw enough interceptions.

Yeah. Do we have any takes on CJ Stroud in the Caleb Williams clip? Big bro.

Yeah, big brodom. It's a little early for the big bro.

Well, here's the thing. I have no problem with CJ Shroud doing it. I also have no problem with Caleb Williams being like, I just got sacked 100 times, got my ass kicked. I don't really want to stand here and just be told a, everything's going to be okay. Like, let me, if, if you're a competitor, I just don't want to do that. Nice. Oh, thank you so much. They're also the same age.

Yeah.

So I could see how I'm fine with Caleb Williams reaction. I know Hank thought that it was bad. You. You. You said, you mentioned something to me. You like, did you see that?

Do you see, you know what happened with Hank? This is what Hank does. It's. It's like sometimes we're too lazy to read the article, so we just read the headline. Hank sometimes is too lazy to watch the video, so he just reads the headline, and that's what he takes from it. It was, Hank got aggregated. You get aggregated. So what?

I watched the video.

Okay, so what happened in the clip was CJ was, like, trying to give him words of encouraging, rolled his eyes, and then Caleb was like, okay, okay. He acted in a perfectly normal way for somebody that just lost a game.

Also, she just. I was mic'd up. You don't think he was doing that? A little bit to get a little extra juice on the mic'd up? Like, look at me, I'm mic'd up. I. It was a also a perfect encapsulation of the Internet where, who, whatever, whoever shared it. However you first consumed it, the caption just changed what you thought.

Exactly.

Yeah.

You read the headline and didn't watch the video.

Yeah, I watched the video.

Okay, so you thought it was too much. Do you, do you have any problem with CJ Stroud, who is a very, very good quarterback, two games into his second season? Big bro and people, it was a.

Little early for a big bro, but I just thought Caleb Williams body language was bad. Like, he was a little bit too cool for school.

I like it.

Too cool for school.

He's pissed off. No one's. Show me. Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser.

Yeah, no, that's true. He's just got a.

He's.

Right now he's too cool for school. He kind of said that in the offseason, like, oh, yeah, we're gonna, you know, he's, he's cocky. Oh, and he's got a back it up. At some point, he's got to back it up. It's cool if, like, if he can back it up all good. If he doesn't, then it's gonna be like, oh, maybe you should have been a little more, you know, receptive and open to your peers.

And of the comments, you think that was, you think that if he had been more receptive of CJ Shroud saying, hey, don't worry, it's going to be okay, he would be okay, maybe. Yeah, he didn't say anything.

How would you have liked him to respond?

CJ shot didn't say anything. He wasn't like, hey, man, he, like, rolled his eyes. Yeah, but if c Deshaun came up like, hey, man, I saw that one play. This is actually how you're going to want to read the safety goal. Yeah, that's like, yeah, okay. You should probably listen. He literally just said, it's okay, man. Keep your head up. You. He was doing it for the camera. CJ Shroud, Washington.

And Caleb was a little bit dismissive.

It's not.

It's not a. It's not a huge deal. I just think when it's all said and done, if things don't, you know, turn around, then it's not going to look great.

That will be the point. What are you gonna say, max, the.

You brought up the punt thing. Have we talked about the punt thing?

Yeah, everyone talks about the punt thing.

Have we talked about the pun?

He said to Tory Taylor, you're not gonna have to punt much. Guess what? Did you not hear about the offense being down league wide?

Punts are up.

No kill winners. Had no idea that punts were going to be in vogue this year. You can't predict that stuff.

It's like inflation.

You can't get that. And also, toy Taylor's a really good punter. Maybe. Maybe it's just Kalebu's being a good teammate. Guess what?

Credit to Ryan polls for. For getting ahead of the league wide trends are going to be up and using a draft pick on a punter.

Actually, yeah. If Ryan polls had taken Tory Taylor one one, I would have been fine with it. With how people are using their punters.

In the way the league's going these days, you want to be ahead of that new trend and the new wrinkle.

Yeah.

Is going to be just punting more.

When everyone zigs, we zag. Okay, next game, Chargers and Steelers. This one's going to be. Gross, gross, gross, gross. I think it's Steelers minus one and a half. Over under 35 and a half. I. So we had a new tomlin. We had a new tomlin drop. Mike Tomlin was talking about the petty game ball and a new harbaugh. And a new harbaugh. We had a petty game ball that he was gave to Russell Wilson after the Steelers beat the Broncos, which a petty game ball. Russell Wilson didn't play in the game, but it was a petty game ball. And a reporter asked him to go deeper and he said, I can't give you all the ingredients to the hot dog. You might not like it.

Yeah. He might have stolen that from Justin Fields, who's a vegan, trying to, like, sway him into not eating meat anymore. You know, it goes in a hot dog, coach.

Yeah.

Lips and asshole.

Yeah. So he's. Yeah, I like the petty game ball. And then the new Harbaugh was very funny. He said, like, moses, I'm gonna die leaning on my staff.

Yeah, that's a really good one.

So I look.

That sounds like something you like. Something you.

I looked into that quote, and it's not the first time Harbaugh said this. He said it back in January. He said, I'm gonna like Moses. I'm gonna die leaning on my staff. Implying that he would die leaning on his. His coordinators. Yeah. And the other coaches and, you know, everybody that happens to be working with Jim Harbaugh.

Michigan.

He said this at Michigan. Yeah. So he was implying, like, I will die leaning on the Connor stallions.

Well, he never met Connor stallions.

Never met Connor stallions. Not his Moses. He's implying died leaning on his staff. His physical staff. Right. I looked into that quote. He actually stole that quote from Lou Holtz.

Oh.

But when Lou Holtz said it, he said that he's going to be like Peter dying leaning on his staff. That's also a wrong quote, because Peter was crucified. The actual guy that leaned on his staff was Jacob.

Ah.

So it's like we're playing a game of football. Guy telephone right now, and Harbaugh is just rolled into the whole Moses thing. Moses does hit harder.

What about Seth?

How'd Moses die?

Moses died wandering the desert. Yeah, he never made it. What about Seth? Seth, the brother of Cain and Abel?

Yeah, the third brother. No one talks about Seth.

Yeah, his name is Seth, and he.

Was not sound like a biblical name at all.

Sounds made up.

People talk. All they do is talk about Cain and Abel. Fucking put some respect on Seth's name.

Yes. Seth was. Seth was the Cooper manning of that family.

But.

So that was a great quote from Harbaugh. I don't really understand what it means, but I like it. I also think that Harbaugh may have saved one of his players lives this week.

Oh.

Cause they stayed out east, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So they stayed in Charlotte and they're going up to Pittsburgh for the time zones. Jim Harbaugh is a big believer in sleep preparation.

He just wanted to watch his team sleep, probably.

Yes.

He wanted to make sure that they were all in the same place.

He wants to keep them in hotels that Herbert has a chance to get stuck in an elevator. But Joey Bose's house got broken into on Monday. Well, there was an alarm that went off. The cops showed up. The cops went into the house with their weapons drawn because they had an alarm. Turns out it may have been a false alarm. It was like the wind that set it off. Okay, but if Joey Bosa had been home, the cops breaking in with their guns. Joey Bosa's pro. I'm going to go out on a limb and say he's probably a gun owner. It could have gotten messy if he hears people breaking into his house. So Harbaugh might have saved Joey Bose's life. I think this team is circling the wagons.

Yeah, they also. They were doing, like, some type of community service. They were. I think they were boxing lunches for homeless people or something. He was doing like, a food pantry, right? And they. The food pantry owner said that they actually broke the record for most lunches box in an hour. And Harbaugh was like, fuck, yes.

He definitely. He definitely, like, asked them beforehand, what's the record? And then he told them, we got a breeze. We got to beat this record.

I got a question for you guys. This is high level handicapping of football. It. There's a report out there from Joey Bosa. He says that Jim Harbaugh has told Justin Herbert, no more high fives when coming off the field to protect his hands. Is that a good thing or a bad thing in terms of team vibes?

So was that. Was that Bose's idea? Was that Harbaugh?

It's Harbaugh's idea, but he told Boson, no more, like, Herbert, no more high fives. Walking off the field. No more high fives. I feel like that's going to hurt the team.

I don't know.

I say it helps his hand, but you got to give a guy a high five every now and then.

Can we go left hand maybe?

Fist bump?

Fist bump. Trent dover fist bumps his players all the time.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah. I don't know. I. That I saw that, I was like, okay, we're really going. It's just Harbaugh's going crazy.

I think Harpo is going to have, like, seven or eight different things that he's going to come up with, like, small little details that he's going to change the rules on this year. I don't know if you're Harbaugh, like, human body craves contact, let your quarterback high five somebody.

Yeah.

What if they just start kissing their boys.

Oh, little smooch. Yeah. Yeah, little smooch.

I like that a lot.

The first european football team. Yeah. I think this game is gonna be gross, though, because I think the Steelers defense is legit. Legit. And this is a game where the Chargers, you know, they've run the ball very well, but it's a Greg Roman offense. Obviously, Tomlin knows it because he was with the Ravens. I don't know if they'll be able to pass it on the Steelers. And then the Steelers Justin Fields, he's, he's done enough to not make a mistake, but it hasn't been an explosive offense. They don't have a ton of weapons. So I think we're going to get one of those, you know, maybe 1210 type of games.

That would be classic.

Yeah.

And I bet both coaches would love that.

Yeah.

Tomlin also said he was talking about the Ross versus just thing that he's got going on. He says, we're ready in a plan that features Justin and his readiness, which is a great. Tomlin is out there. Like, the readiness factor for Justin is higher than it is for, for Russ right now. And then I saw a couple articles. Quarterbacks get injured. You start to talk about which teams have a luxury at the quarterback situation. I saw a couple saying, like, what if the, what if the Dolphins traded for Russ Wilson? That would be a great move. Probably by the, by the Steelers say.

Not for the Dolphins.

Yeah. You sign, you sign Russ Wilson for basically nothing. Yeah, but trade them.

You just don't have a quarterback.

You don't have a quarterback anymore. Yeah.

All right. Bears and colts, I think this is the weak boys. I think this is the week.

I think the Bears are going to run your face.

This is where the podcast listeners are going to be like, they just pick on Hank. He just went like this, like that.

Do that one more time.

Do it one more time.

You do it one more time.

That's what he did. That's the face he made when I just said that.

I, that's probably the same phase a lot of you listening to the podcast made.

The Colts defense is very bad. They give up the most rushing yards. They have. Divorce buckners out. Now out you come. Divorce bucks force buckners out.

He's never won a ring.

The, the secondary is banged up a little bit. I think this is the week that the offense looks good. I think the Bears are going to win. Obviously, this is a very important game for me in terms of discourse, because if Anthony Richardson outplays Caleb Williams, I'm going to be in trouble. Anthony Richardson does have, I think he has 49% completion percentage. I know there's been some drops, but he does have the best offensive line in the NFL. Yes, he's got a ton of time.

His offensive line is playing really, really well right now. So that makes all his, like, you know, the interceptions and the low completion percentage makes it stand out a little bit more. He played so bad against the packers last week. He was very, very bad. Yeah, I do agree with you. I think the Bears are going to run the ball down their throats because the indie run defense is terrible, and.

The Titans and the Texans, I believe, will go by the end of the season, will both be top ten defenses. The Colts will not. So I think this is one of those situations where your first two weeks, you're playing really, really good defenses. Now you take a big step down and things just work easier. I think the offensive line will block better. Darnell Wright has been really, really good. He was really, really bad against the Texans. I don't think that's going to happen again. I just think everything's going to look a lot better.

The defense for the Bears has been awesome in the second half, too. I think they've only allowed three points in the second half this year, and.

That was just Kymie Fairband. Fairbarn like 75 yard field goal.

Play too high. Yeah, play too high. Safety. Because Anthony Richardson, the reason I like watching him play is because he's electric when he runs with the ball and he takes Mega shots downfield. Yeah, he's mega man at quarterback. He only goes downfield, which explains why his completion percentage is lower, but he's not taking what the defense gives him.

Yeah. I also just want to say this game, the Bears win this game, everything is on path. Everything looks good because there's been a lot of panicking. I actually don't think Bears fans are panicking. I think it's more just the Hanks of the world, the, you know, Colin cowards just trying to, trying to force panic on us. Yeah, very similar.

I don't force panic on you at all.

The Bears are one of the bears are one in one. Before the season, I had the Texans as a loss. Like I, when we did the schedule, I was like, we're gonna lose to the Texans.

Yeah, Hank, you do force them.

You force panic. Oh, you with question. You like.

I do have one question. Okay, here's dad.

Yeah, I saw it.

He shared a clip on Twitter. He's just watching wide open.

Don't you want, don't you want family members watching tape? Yeah.

Well, for Odell, yeah, it's fit.

I want Mike. I want my, I want. It's. It takes a large tape, not publicly.

Post he's create discourse against quarterback, your son.

You're gonna are you tell the full story.

I'm gonna ask a question to Hank.

We want. But he also posted a clip that is, that basically said Roman dude and say, runs a great route. But Caleb Williams gets pressured so fast he has no chance.

Okay, so did you mention, did you read the headline of Roma Doonce dads I bring down?

See, I watched the clip he posted. I didn't see the other clip he posted.

Okay, did he post a clip of Roman Doonze dropping a touchdown catch?

I don't think so. Okay, so maybe Caleb Williams should post that.

What about the reports of DJ Moore liking Justin Fields better?

DJ Moore did like Justin fields better. DJ Moore apologized for his body language on Sunday night, which I thought was bad. Like DJ Moore, he just stopped running routes. DJ Moore is.

He also said that thing to Tyson badge and that no one really knows what he said, but some people are saying, you out here to Tyson bat?

No. DJ Moore, I think TJ, that's crazy. Don't try to put crazy. DJ Moore is, has to. He just got paid. He's a number one. He's on a team with a rookie quarterback, a rookie wide receiver, an offensive line that's been struggling. DJ Moore has to step up and be a leader. And I think that that was a moment where he realizes his body language and the way he reacted was probably not great. He admitted that in Presco media this week. DJ Moore is going to be a lot better and this is going to be different.

I'm watching the clip right now.

No panicking.

DJ Moore walking down the sideline.

It.

It looks like he might say dog, I need you to Tyson Beijing.

No, he was saying. He was saying dog. That was a sick throw. And Caleb Williams gonna go off against the Colts.

He might have also said that. Yeah, I'm not sure. It basically, here's what it comes down to. When it comes to lip reading videos, whatever you say in the caption is what he said. I will believe that. Yeah, I'm highly suggestible to believing what people say. Now.

I'm not panicking. I just realized, though, I am literally, I've been going like this, this entire segment, so I'm not panicking.

I wouldn't panic.

I'm not. I think Caleb, who, who's talking about panicking?

I mean, I mean, the funny, odd guys. The funniest funny would be funny would be if. If the Bears beat the Colts, but they ran for, like, four touchdowns and Caleb didn't throw a touch.

I wouldn't give a fuck. I want to win games, actually.

I want the Bears to go on a huge winning streak, and for some reason, Caleb just not throw touchdown. He can have as many yards as he wants.

Yeah.

Just to watch that discourse build up.

Fine. Love it. Max, another question again. You guys. You guys are foot. You guys know how to. You're funny. You guys are really funny. The panic.

You say that you just want the Bears to win. What if there's, what if Caleb Williams throws for 375 four touchdowns, but they lose off of, like, special teams turnovers? Like something fluky like that. But. But Caleb Williams goes 375 four touchdowns.

Or we did this last week. Yeah, I'd consider taking that this week. You would?

Definitely.

I'd consider. I said I'd consider taking that this week.

What if he throws for 300 yards, four touchdowns. The Bears lose. Tory Taylor gets injured, but Anthony throws.

For 400 yards in five touchdowns.

I do not want that. I'm gonna. It's good. It's just football, guys. Come on. There's more things to life, all right?

No one wants the bears to be better than me.

No. You're a liar. You're a liar and you lie.

Oh, we have a. People forget that for this week, too. The combined age for Caleb Williams, 44.

Yeah.

Five years younger than the starting quarterbacks in Utah, Oklahoma State.

Yeah. Yeah.

It's a. People forget that. I've seen it everywhere.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Giants and Browns. Yeah.

Gross.

Yeah.

Is Conklin gonna play? If he plays, then I think I like the Browns. I I kind of want to bet on the. The Giants this week. I don't hate it. I know it's gross, but there's two.

Gross bets out there.

Yeah.

There's more than two. There's more than two. I mean, the Panthers will get to that one's for sure.

I do think that if the Giants lose this game, the Brian Dable hot seat, it's officially.

It's hot. So I want to take the Giants in this game. I am worried about Daniel Jones against the Blitz. You saw week one against Brian Flores defense. Jim Schwartz is going to do something similar, like, Daniel Jones played okay against the commanders because their defense can't do the things that the Browns defense and the Vikings defense can do.

Like play defense.

Play defense. That. I saw a very funny stat, I believe. Wait, was it. Oh, they think Daniel Jones was the only NFC east quarterback. Oh, no, never mind. I don't have the stat. They were the only team to. Oh, no, I have the stat. The commanders were the only team in week two NFC east team in week two to not score a touchdown. They were also the only NFC east team to win.

Interesting. Yeah. Cool. The Giants. I said it. I said the stat in the inverse way on, on Monday's show. But the Giants were the first team in NFL history to lose a game where they scored three touchdowns.

Yeah.

And their opponent didn't score single touchdowns. It's never happened before.

Yeah.

Did you know that Amari Cooper's 30 years old?

That seems right.

Oh, I thought he was older.

No, that seems about, he's just been.

Around for a while.

Yeah.

That seems like we've seen him for, for a long time. Yeah. I think I like the Giants this week. I know it's stupid. I know there's really no, no reason to love the Giants, but, but I do.

There's a couple. Yeah. The Giants are definitely in the catching catch a falling knife team category where it's like, you're gonna do it eventually.

Yeah.

Just hope you time it well.

You think, you think they built, brought in a clip of the Saquon Barkley drop and showed it to Mister Mara.

I was like, look, he might have a loser. He's a losing, a losing player.

He's a losing running back.

Shout out the Giants. That actually was probably their I, that was their win. First win of the season. Yes. I was using saquon, dropping that giant. Fans were celebrating heavily.

Mister Mary got his first night of sleep this season.

Yes. Yes. Okay. Yeah. This is a gross game. I don't know what to do with it. I think this is one of those games to, you have them every Sunday where you can point to and be like, whatever I choose, I'm gonna be wrong. Yeah.

Yeah.

So Eagles and Saints. Max, Max, are we overreacting to the Saints or overreacting to the Eagles?

Neither.

Okay.

We're correct about both.

Yeah.

So that the Saints are great and that the Eagles stink.

The line would say we're overacting to the Saints and overreacting to the Eagles.

Neither.

Okay. Okay. I'm worried for you, Max. Without AJ Brown.

Oh, yeah.

I, he's, he's the guy that you need to beat the Saints defense and he's not there. Also, Max, would you like to comment on the fact that Reed Blankenship said after the game, we're a player led team at the end of the day, we know what we need. What we did is on us. So they don't need coaches in Philadelphia is pretty much what he said.

Are you're talking about how Jalen Hurts did all.

No, no. Reed Blankenship said, we're a player led.

Yeah. Where's memes?

He's coming. I don't know.

We don't know where memes is.

He said he's.

He said he's coming.

Wait. I didn't even realize memes wasn't back there. Hey, bug.

All right.

Pugs here. He's the Eagles fan. Pug, what do you think about the comment that Reed blankenship made about Jalen hurts? Saying he talked to the team after and said, we're a player led team at the end of the day. So they don't even need coaches.

Yeah, they are a player led team. It's true.

So no. So do they not need coaches?

Just coordinators.

Just coordinators.

They need coordinators.

No.

Head coach poke.

Okay. So just get rid of some takeover from.

I didn't love what he just said there. We do need coaches. Coaches. Coaches are good. Coaches are, you know, they're not talented right now or you need them.

Wait, the coaches lack.

They're not talented right now? Talents not something you can just, like, doesn't go up and down.

No. Yeah.

It's not a hot and cold.

I've already either have it.

I.

My report card on the Eagles.

But, max, are you saying that the coaches lack talent right now?

Just right now?

Yeah.

They're not talented at being coaches currently. Okay.

Just currently, things can change.

So it's a coaching issue for the coaches.

Correct.

They need to get more talent out of themselves.

Correct.

But I also like your leaders stepping up and being leaders.

Right.

So, like, Jalen Hurts. The report was, after the game, Jalen Hurts took over the locker room, and he was the one that spoke. And Nick Sirianni didn't say anything. And then when asked about it later, he goes, Jalen hurts. That everything that I needed, that I needed.

That would have been funny if Jalen Hurts was talking. And because Nick Sirianni is so italian, he was just doing sign language in Italian.

Also say this. I also think the players may respect Jalen Hurts more than Nick Sirianni.

Oh, you think.

So? I don't hate Jalen Hurts taking over that role of motivating the players.

So you don't have a coach. No.

He's not very good.

No. You. You don't have a coach.

We have jet. We have Jalen Hurts. Great leader.

Okay. And coach.

So who makes up the game plan?

Yeah. Who sets the schedule?

That could be the code. Wait, set the schedule? That's the NFL.

No, like, practice, like.

All right.

Is what we're gonna do.

The actual schedule of, like, we're gonna.

Leave practice tomorrow at 08:00 like, I'm.

Saying, you know, motivation, you know, that.

That's all on jail. So what did it. What would it be that you would say? Nick Sirianni does.

I told you we're not. They're not overreacting about the Eagles, right?

No, this is not an overreact. What I'm saying, just like, I'm not panicking. You're not overreacting.

No, no.

I'm saying that the. They're right about their overreaction.

Oh, Eagles.

Okay, what is, like, it's not an overreact.

Oh, they're just. It's fair.

It's fair reaction.

Right.

So it sounds like they've been having players only meetings this entire time.

No, they had. I think that it started kind of.

It's like a cuck chair situation. They're having players only situate meetings.

But it's.

But Nick, sir, Arnie's sitting.

He's watching. Yeah.

Nick Sirianni definitely thinks he's on a text chain with all of his offense. And they're on a side text chain.

Yeah.

Yeah. For sure.

Mm hmm.

So listen, so you don't have.

I'm not, I'm not. I'm not over here telling you, trying to convince you that it's good. It's bad also. I watched. I got. I got into the. Got in the film room a little bit.

I did, too. I watched the all 22 of Caleb. Not that bad.

I watched. I didn't watch the all 22. I watched one thread of a guy. Of a guy who watched the all 20.

Okay, nice.

The D line is so much worse than you could possibly imagine.

Yeah, it's really bad. They're averaging. I think they have the worst run defense in the NFL.

I a pick. I have a solution for you. I have a guy.

I have something.

Okay. What?

You go.

I have a guy that you guys can get. He was first in pressure rate in 2022 and third. And pressure rate in 2023, and you can have them. Do you want him?

Aaron Donald.

No. His name is Bryce Huff.

Oh, no. He sucks.

He was first impression rate two years ago, third last year, and so far through two weeks, he's tied for 146. Yeah.

So this is what happened.

I want to.

Yeah, he has, you know, what his stats are this year. He has one stat. Can you guess what it is?

A combined tackle.

He has one assisted tackle.

Yeah.

Yes. He's. He has a 67% missed tackle rate.

Oh, that's not good. He.

Well, no, hold on. 33% of the time he's tackling someone.

Yeah. Zero hurries.

33% of the time he's getting 50% of attacks tackle also.

This is the worst part of it all.

Others. Oh, there's more.

This is what I'm. This is what I found through the tape. The Falcons game plan was to stop Jalen Carter no matter what. So they were doubling the tackle and the guard on Jalen Carter every play and going one on one with a tight end and Bryce huff.

That's not good.

That's okay.

And he wasn't getting any pressure.

Zero pressure. One on one tight end.

Wow. Wow. Mmm.

I only saw a couple plays because I, like I said, it was. It was a thread.

Right?

That.

That's what that thread told.

What about another player, Max, that might be available? He hasn't played this year.

Aaron Donald.

No, he hasn't played this year, but he knows the system, even though, like, he knows the town, he knows the fans.

Fletcher Cox.

He doesn't mind getting booed. No, he's. It's not Fletcher Cox.

Chris Long.

No.

Namdi Asanwa.

No.

His name is Hassan Reddick.

No. Yeah. I mean, I already. You. You heard me try to make the trade.

Yeah.

Trade was actually executed up.

Yeah, I don't think it was ever executed. He wanted a second. He wanted a second. I would only give him a third.

Yeah.

So the bad news is, for the Eagles, you're playing against the best offense in the NFL.

I know.

It's only through two weeks.

Yeah.

But it's. It's a record setting offense through two weeks, and it's not really a good position for a get right game. You guys. You guys would absolutely love to go up against, like, a bottom tier offense. I don't just feel better.

I don't like the Eagles winning this game.

I believe in the Saints.

I. And I don't believe in the Eagle.

Yeah.

The Pat I. The pass rush is just. The D line is going to ruin is. And no AJ Brown. No, I don't. I don't feel good about this game.

And Nick, sir, I'm making decisions of any kind.

Yeah.

He just needs to be. He's. And we say it all the time when we, like, defend Dan Campbell. Just have some consistency. Nick Sirianni, you know? Well, you go for it. You go forward in the first half, you don't go forward at the end of the game. What are you doing? Agree, just have consistency. Stick to a plan. Just be like, this is the way we're gonna run this operation and we're gonna do it this way, and that's what we're doing. But, yeah, I, yeah, I think the Saints are. I think the Saints are for real. I know they wanted their two games, half of their sample size against the Panthers, but I still, I like the Saints. I think they're flying around on defense, too. That's the part that's a little surprising to me.

And the offense looks, it's, it's different. It's different from the Saints offenses that we've seen in the past. It's more, there's more complications, there's more motion. So it puts a lot of pressure on the defense and just don't run the prevent defense.

Do you think we gave the Saints coach a little bulletin board when we, when we picked him last and the. I still can't remember his name, but.

Dennis Allen.

Dennis Allen when we, when he was the last overall pick in our coaches draft?

No, I think he's used to it by now.

No, and I don't, I don't really attribute any of the start for the Saints on Dennis Allen.

Okay.

He doesn't get.

It's Clint Cubiac.

Yeah, there's another cubiac.

Yeah.

No, he's got brother.

Yeah, it's crazy.

Yeah.

All right, that was fun.

All right, we got two more early games. Broncos at Bucks. So this is a gross one. Hank, I think I might take the Broncos.

That is a gross one. I saw that was at six and a half.

It's six and a half. So my thought process is, it's a sucker line.

I thought about it too, though.

The Broncos have played the Seahawks on the road week one with Bo Nicks, and they played a very good Steelers defense. I think the Bucks defense, obviously super banged up, Baker's been phenomenal. I do think Baker is probably playing a little bit above where he's going to end up average wise. So, yeah, I don't know. I also. It's, it's gross for every single reason, because. Do you know the record for the Broncos in the last eight games?

Last 18, one and seven.

No. Oh, and eight that they own eight is actually partially correct. They're two and six. There are two wins. Were both against Easton Stick. Okay, so, yeah, pretty much zero eight. Yeah. We also had Sean Payton said after the game on Sunday, we have to start really looking at who we are asking to do what. What scheme fits our players? What scheme fits our quarterback? It's your quarterback in your scheme, Sean. That's yours.

Yeah.

Who are you asking?

You should have asked that question before the draft.

You should ask that question before the draft. Mini camp, training camp, preseason, week one. You shouldn't be asking the question now.

He's going to try to figure it out in as many ways possible. So we talked about using more rpos against him. He's just going to throw a lot of shit at the wall, see what sticks. The one thing I will say that's good for the Broncos is Sean Payton knows the division. He knows the Bucks pretty well.

That's true.

He's got one really good player on defense. And Patrick certain. And I don't know, if you stick him on Mike Evans for the whole game, that means that Chris Godwin's just going to eat you alive because Chris Godwin's been playing really well.

This is. The Lions just weren't covering him. I, again, this is gross. I just think that the Bucks, it's. It's pretty much the NFL. You're never as bad as everyone thinks you are. You're never as good as everyone thinks you are. Everyone thinks the Bucks are incredible. Everyone thinks the Broncos are the worst. It's got to be somewhere closer to the middle.

Yeah, probably. But, I mean, I think it all be. I see six and a half.

Yeah.

And I just, I want to take it, but I imagine, again, this is one of those blinking red light situations where it's like, if I love a bet that much, you probably should not.

Yeah. I just think Bo Nicks might be a little bit better because Sean Payton might actually start thinking about his quarterback in the scheme.

So it's like with Bo Nicks, they might do kind of what the Falcons had to do at the end of the game with Kirk Cousins, which is just go out there, like, make, build the entire offense out of your two minute drill.

Yeah, that's what I wanted them to do with Justin Fields forever.

Yeah.

Just let him just go out there and sling it. Okay. Speaking of another stinky one, packers at Titans, Malik Willis. So we're doing the Jordan love fake he's gonna play thing. I don't think Jordan loves gonna play. He was in practice, but I don't think he's gonna play. There's. There's no reason for the packers to risk playing him. It's this week.

What they're doing, I think, is essentially a play action fake before the game.

Yeah. It's part of Matt Lafour strategy.

Yeah. They're like, get ready for the pass. We're gonna pass it, and then Malik's gonna play, and we're just gonna run the ball again.

They have, they've already. The Malik Willis era in Green Bay is already a success because when Jordan Love went down in the first week of the season and you said, hey, he's going to miss, you know, whatever, three to four games. If you're a Packer fan, if you're in the packers organization, like, if we can eke out one or two wins in this stretch, we're good. So they have the Vikings next week, which will be big for the NFC north. And why would you play Malik Willis? Or, sorry, why would you play Jordan love against a very good defense in the Titans? I think it's all smokescreens. I think it's Malik Willis again.

I also like the Titans Malik Willis revenge game, but not really because of that quote. He did say I could care less. Yeah, I think I got paid the whole time I was there.

Yeah.

Which is. That's a good way to look at it. He's got perspective.

Yeah. He said, shout out Miss Amy, which I love whenever.

Yeah.

Miss on a Miss Amy. The owner of the Titans. Yeah. No, I. I kind of would want my quarterback to a little more like, yeah, it's a fucking revenge game.

Yeah.

Fuck, yeah, it is.

Yeah. But again, if Malik Willis was like, yes, it's revenge game. Then he goes in there and he wants to do too much. Malik Willis.

Yeah.

Like, last week, the packers dialed down the Malik Willis level to like .5 out of ten, and they won the football game. If you crank that knob up and you're like, we're going seven out of ten, Malik Willis, that's when he starts to do Malik Willis things.

Yes, I. So here's. Here's my case for the title Titans. Their first two games went basically exactly the same, where their defense balled out, they got a punt blocked, and Will Levis had a horrendous turnover that fucked him. One was a pick six against the Bears. The other was fumble backwards on the six yard line going in. I'm doing visualization. There's been a lot of talk, you know, Brian Callahan motherfucking Will Levis. Will Levis actually saying, yeah, of course he motherfucked me. I'm an idiot. I was motherfucking myself. I think this is going to be a 04:00 or 330 central time. Whatever. 430 central time. The picture is Will Levis and Brian Callahan, arm in arm, smiling. We finally got a win. We did it. Everything's working. That's, that's just my visualization for this game.

It sounds like a daydream.

It might be a daydream. I also have a stat for you that's pretty remarkable. The, from CB's research, the Titans are owen two despite allowing the fewest total yards in the NFL. So the last time that happened that a team started zero two with allowing the fewest total yards in the NFL through two weeks was the 1994 Cardinals, who actually started zero three and ended up finishing eight and eight. So my point behind all that is the Titans are probably better than their zero two record. They'll be in some of these games. They were in both their games.

Yeah. And listen, some of those, some of those yards came on turnovers that were deep in your opponent's territory.

Right.

So that's, that's not doing any favors.

And again, Malik Willis, that was a phenomenal game plan against the Colts. Matt Lafleur is a really, really good coach. I expected that out of Matt LaFleur. He threw some wrinkles. He played to their strengths. I just think this Titans defense is different than the Colts defense, where you're not going to be able to run the ball like you did, and Malik Willis is going to be pressured in a way that the Colts weren't able to pressure.

Are you a little bit worried that the packers have fixed their defense?

They might have fixed a little bit of their defense athletes. Yeah. So they went from a head coaching job in college to defensive coordinator.

Yeah.

They didn't turn the ball over last year on defense, and now I think they lead the league in interception.

They did play Jalen Hurts and Anthony Richardson.

It's true. Yeah, that's true. But no, they're gonna lump Jalen in with Anthony for turnovers. Okay.

The. I know the packers defense is good. I think that the packers are a good team, and it's, it's. I expected them to win last week. Like, like I said, this is how good organizations run. You lose your quarterback and they still find a way to tread water. I just. I'm. I'm buying the Titans. This is stupid. They'll probably end up losing by seven, somehow lead the game all game, and then lose by seven. But I'm going to do it.

I don't hate it. I don't hate it. And I. In fact, I like betting on teams that look really, really bad against teams that just look really, really good. Right it's a good formula, right?

And the Titans defense is very, very good. And because of their own two record, I think they're getting overlooked a little bit. Okay, before we do the afternoon games, guess what goes with football. Pardon my cheesesteak. Football is back in full gear, and ordering pardon my cheesesteak. For your game day meal or late night eats is the best play call you can make. Part of my cheesesteak brings you awesome cheesesteaks, loaded fries delivered right to your doorstep and will be offering free delivery throughout the entire football season. Take your pick of delicious cheesesteaks made with fresh, thinly sliced steak, melted provolone, mouth watering cheese sauce, and caramelized onions on a toasted hoagie roll. We've classic cheesesteaks. Chipotle chicken cheesesteaks. Chipotle cheesesteaks. Excuse me? Buffalo cheesesteaks. Buffalo chicken cheesesteaks. You can order the popular big cat combo, get your cheesesteak, a choice fries, and a drink. Find a pardon my cheesesteak near you, and order yours now at pardon my cheese sake.com. use code awl for free delivery. Okay. Afternoon slate, boys. Some good ones.

Mm hmm.

Not a great one, but let's talk about it. Panthers at Raiders.

Yeah.

Stinky, we didn't mention, by the way, we should have mentioned that. We should have predicted on Sunday night that Bryce Young was 100% going to lose his job because Dave Canales did say, bryce Young is our quarterback.

Yeah.

24 hours later, he was like, just kidding. Andy Dalton's our quarterback. There's no better sign of a quarterback not being a quarterback anymore than saying Bryce Young is our quarterback. The old lovey Rex, our quarterback. Now, that's just. That's. That's the death knell for a quarter.

You might have just said, Bryce Young is a quarterback. He thought that. He said are.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's reports that Bryce Young was pissed.

Well, of course he's pissed. He's probably pissed at himself. He's probably embarrassed. Yeah, I mean, it's. It's been. It's been pretty embarrassing, what he's put on tape for the last season in two games. It's really, really crazy to think that they went this entire offseason, didn't play him in the preseason except for, like, one drive, and then they're like, okay, I think we're good to go with Bryce. So, yeah, you can say, I think two things are true. I think you can say the organization failed them. And you can also say that Bryce doesn't look like he's very good at playing quarterback at the NFL level on his own.

Right. It's also very apparent the organization failed him in the fact that there are two Panthers quarterbacks who are leading the league in touchdowns.

Yeah. And then another guy that the Panthers could have had that hasn't thrown interception yet.

Yeah. Baker Mayfield and Sam Darno being ex Panthers and that picture being like, yeah, this is what happened. So I do feel bad for Bryce. I do think they're live in this game because of Andy.

Yeah. So all of his teammates have to be feeling like a little bit better that they have a quarterback that can go out there and maybe complete a pass. Like Adam Thielen has to be, every play, he has to be like running a little bit harder. The offensive line has to be playing like a tiny bit harder because they think that they have a chance.

Those guys know. They know in the locker room who gives them the best chance to win. And it's Andy Dalton. Andy Dalton did play last year for the Panthers. He never yet dinosaur, though. But he had that game against the Seahawks where he threw for like 300 plus yards.

He still got the red rifle arm. He's still good.

So are you going to do it?

I think I'm going to bet them plus five. I don't money line is okay. Seems crazy here.

Here's something that's so bad. The Raiders have nine stinks. The Raiders have not been able to run the ball. So the Raiders are averaging two and a half yards per carry for 39 rushes. The Panthers. Your strategy of betting running, running back to score against the Panthers has worked well this year.

Yeah, I don't know if I'm going to do it this week.

Well, that I don't know if the Raiders can run the ball.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like Alexander Madison, he's got two touchdowns, but they. He hasn't been good at all.

Really?

Like, yeah, or he hasn't been productive at all is a better way to put it. He scored the Raiders as a pass. Mixed bag. But I don't love the idea of the Panthers defense getting carved up.

We also have garden. Minshew might have found his swag back. I think he's leading the league in completion percentage. But do you remember the clip of Max Crosby going and talking to Gardner Minshew on the sideline during the Ravens game? So Max Crosby, or, sorry, Gardner Minshew said what he was told by Max Crosby. He said, he grabbed me and just said, hey, we got your back, dude. We need that Washington State Gardener. We need that and Gardner said, man, you're right, dude. Let me see if I can go whip that up real quick.

Love that. He would. He whipped up the cougar.

Like, let me whip that gardener up real quick.

I like that fucking gravy, though. That's the best gardener.

Yeah.

The best gardens. When he's showing up for games wearing, like, a bomber jacket in the aviators.

Whip that up.

He's just in fucking mode. Southern rock Gardener is the absolute best.

I think I would take, I would take Gardener Minshew if he said, I'm gonna whip that up. Anything. Anything that he whips up. I mean, I'm buying.

If he, if he's whipping, I'm getting whipped. Yeah, let's do it. Brock Bowers has looked awesome.

Awesome.

He's looked on. They have exact opposite hair. Brock Bowers and Gardner Minshew. Yeah, there's definitely some jealousy going on.

Oh, for sure.

I think Brock Bowers has the most receiving yards in the first two games in NFL history for any rookie who, for a tight end, he surpassed Mike Ditka.

Ooh.

How about that?

How about that? Gronk said that Brock Bowers is next up. He anointed him with rock Gronk. It's got to be so awesome to be gronk just being like, yeah, I was the best ever. Because he said, like, he's, he could be on my tier.

I like that. But the thing is, like, if Gronk tried to do, if, if he played in Vegas, I don't think that would have worked out.

No, that would not have early Gronk. No chance. Yeah. I don't know. I I'm going to. It's be a game time decision whether I take the Panthers. Probably stupid.

We also have a little, a little reunion between Andy Dalton and Marvin Lewis, who get the gang back together. Maybe some tears. My visualization is giant postgame hug between Andy Dalton and Marvin Lewis after this game. I don't know who's going to win, who's going to be happier in that hug, but they're going to hug the shit out of each other.

Seems like two guys that don't, they can't have bad blood.

Yeah. They're just two nice guys you can't hate. Like, the stuff that they accomplished for the Bengals was remarkable, given the history of the Bengals.

Yeah. No playoff wins, but still no playoff wins.

But they went to the playoffs a lot of always on Saturday at, at noon against the Texans. Yep.

Okay, next up, Dolphins and Seahawks. So it's Skyler Thompson time. I was trying to talk. By the way, I think the Seahawks are very good. I think Gino is very good. I think the Seahawks very good. If Kenneth Walker can get healthy, I think that's a complete team. The Dolphins. Skyler Thompson is going to start. They are saying every. They're saying all the right things that Mike McDaniel said. Skyler Thomas is a new man. He said when you're watching in 2024, it might be the same name on the jersey, but you're seeing a different man. I was trying to get myself to be like, maybe I'll bet on the Dolphins. And then I kept on hitting a wall and I was trying to figure out what's that wall? And I found it. Skyler Thompson wearing number 19 is terrible.

That's a bad quarterback name.

It's Johnny, nothing else. Yeah.

You can't. Yeah. Number 19, it's a good backup quarterback number. If he never gets on the field, steps on the field. It's a. It's a just warning sign that this is a very backup quarterback.

It's. It's not only a bad. So I think they should never have a quarterback. Number 19 since Johnny nice. Like, don't. Don't do it. That was Johnny Nice's number. I was looking up. Who else wore number 19? Joe Montana did, but with the Chiefs.

Okay.

So that's kind of indicative of it. Also, fun fact, there are three numbers. Sorry, four numbers, including 19 that a starting quarterback has never won a Super bowl with. Number one. Number two, Cam Newton and Matt Ryan came close. And number six. So one, 2619.

Cutler. Who else was six?

I don't know. Probably some other non quarter Super bowl winning quarterback. Yeah.

Mark Sanchez.

Yeah. 19 is not. And then. And then. So I went even deeper and I tried to find top ten players. Number 19. And this is. This just further proves that you should not wear number 19 because Johnny nice was obviously number one. They had Joe Montana. Eight, because he was. It was chief Joe Montana. Do you want to know who number five was? This is why number 19 does not work. This is the fifth best, according to just a random website, which obviously doesn't really matter. The fifth best player to wear, number 19.

There's no chance I can guess this.

Juju Smith Schuster.

Okay.

According to this. Yeah.

I mean, it's a bad number. It's a bad one.

Good year in.

Yeah. I mean, also, the list doesn't really make sense. Cause, like, Amari Cooper's number nine, Ted Gin Junior, who is better than Juju, is number seven, Adam Thielen. Also better than juju. Six. But I just laughed at seeing that.

Yeah.

That's been like, what the fuck?

That's wildly disrespectful to Ted Ginn.

Yeah. Yeah. It was a Johnny nightus. Lance allworth. Keyshawn. Bernie Kosar. Juju.

Yeah. It's not good. Number 19. If, ideally, if you had to just draw it up and say, my starting quarterback on my franchise will wear this number, what number would that be? What's. What's the best quarterback number? Visually?

Okay.

I think it's twelve is.

Okay. Pretty good. I think it's. I think it's three numbers. I think it's 712, 18.

I kind of like 17, too. Okay, 17 looks pretty good.

I think 712, 18. And then Mahomes is going to make 15.

Moms. Yeah.

Yeah, those are. Those are the. When you think quarterback numbers, I'm like, 712 1812.

17 and five. I like five a lot.

Five. Five's a good number.

Yeah.

Five's a decent number, but. Yeah, that's. That was my whole. Skyler Thompson, he's wearing number 19. I don't. 19 is. Oh, is your fourth wide receiver an awesome punt returner?

19 is the guy that showed up late on the day they handed out the Jersey.

Right.

And he's wearing one that doesn't even fit him.

It's just not a good.

Can I give you a counter stat to that?

Yeah.

So this might be a reason to bet on the Dolphins.

Okay.

They're eight. No. With Kevin Harlan announcing their games since 2022.

Oh, wow.

And this is gonna be Harlan game. Okay, so go perfect. Nine and oh.

Nine and oh.

The opportunity to go perfect on Harlan game. Yeah. I like, didn't Frank the tank say that they never win when Kevin Harlan calls their games?

That's a statistical fact. Yeah.

So. But the counter statistic would be that they're perfect in the last two years when. With him on the call.

Yeah.

So I don't know which one's right, if Frank's right or the numbers are.

I'm going to say the numbers are probably right.

I think Frank might be right.

Yeah. Okay, let's go with lions of cardinals. So big news out of Detroit. Dan Campbell had to sell his house because Lions fans found the address. That sucks.

I would assume that would happen more frequently. Right. Like, word gets out he said the.

He loves the neighborhood, everything. There's plenty of space. It's on two acres. The home is beautiful. It's just that people figured out where we lived when we lost.

So what were they doing?

I don't know. I mean, you got to go.

Little dramatic.

Your psycho. If you go after Dan Campbell. Come on. I hope it wasn't just after this long.

I feel like people know where people live. Yeah, but that crazy.

But he sold his house, so he's got to be thinking about that. He's got to move. And I mean, moving sucks.

It does stink.

Maybe he's just. Maybe that's a little smokescreen.

Might be.

Yeah. If you just say that you're moving and then people put up a sign, put up the soul on it. Hire like a U Haul just to park in the driveway for a couple days.

I think that loss to the bucks was the best thing that could happen to the Lions because Jared Goff threw the ball 55 times, which is not what you want to do as the lions when you have Jamir Gibbs and David Montgomery. And if you want to beat the Cardinals, the Bills kind of showed how to do it. Just run the ball. Run the ball. Run the ball. Play action. Josh making plays. The game against the Rams was over in the first quarter because of Kyler Murray. I think Lions are going to get back to basics. I think they're pound the rock. They're going to get play action going. Amon Ra has a leg injury, but I think he's going to play. I think this was a good loss for the Lions that they got away from themselves a little bit. They tried to play a little bit too much into all the bucks. Secondary is banged up. Let's throw it all over them. And this one. And you read the quotes Dan Campbell saying, we got to get. Get Samuel Porter more involved. I think this is a good spot for the lines.

Yeah. So right now they have a split in the red zone. On 31 red zone plays. They've passed the ball 18 times. They've run it 13 times. So that's the second most pass attempts are by percentage in the NFL. Last year, the Lions ran the ball 58% of the time in the red zone and threw it 40, 42%. So it's like exactly flip flop where it was last year. And red. Arizona's red zone defense stinks.

Right.

So it does feel like it's a get right game for the Lions on that front.

Have these losses where you, what? Wake up me? Like, what just happened? Why did we do what we did? Were the Detroit Lions. We have a formula. It works. Just go back to it.

Yeah. Also, it's gonna be on the road, so Dan Campbell doesn't have to worry about people coming to his house.

Yeah.

He's gonna be gone.

It's fun that this game is like, think about this game five years ago. What a stunk.

Yeah. And it's fun.

It's speaker zero.

If I were Dan Campbell, I would pro, I would just buy a farm. Just go live on a farm.

Yeah.

That's what you want to do anyway. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. You should be living in your office. You should be living in your playbook right now, Dan.

Do you guys, do you guys have any other thoughts on this game? I, this is my fun watch. Game of the week.

It's nice. It's gonna be a good uniform matchup.

Yep.

Sneaky good uniform. The uniforms and the colors. They scream points to me.

Yep. Yep. Agreed. Late afternoon. Kyler Murray doing crazy shit. Marvin Harrison. He's arrived. Yeah, fully arrived.

It'd be funny if they didn't pass him the ball in non divisional matchups.

Yeah.

And just only against the NFC west. We're like, we're going to unleash Mars.

Eat them. Eat them then. Okay. Ravens at Cowboys, another fun game. Afternoon. Slate's great. So we've talked about kickers. We've talked about Justin Tucker. We sometimes accidentally do this on this show where we start a narrative and then, weirdly, we're right. And the numbers completely back it up.

Up.

So NFL kickers through the first two weeks are 35 of 37 on 50 plus yard field goals. The only two misses. Justin Tucker. Yeah, he's got. So we nailed it.

And we nailed it when he said that Justin Tucker's wash. Yeah.

Well, everyone else is kicking these insanely long field goals and doing it easily, and Justin Tucker can't.

Yeah. So it's a, it's a must win. I'm declaring it's a must win for the Ravens.

I think so.

If they lose, I think only one team since the year 2000, since the expansion, has made the playoffs after starting zero three.

They're, they're out gaining their opponents. They are playing good football minus the penalties. It's just, they got to win this game. I like the Ravens just because of purely sense of urgency. Yeah.

And they've, they've lost two close games in the fourth quarter in two very different ways. The one against the Chiefs, obviously, week one was lost by, like, a toenail, and then the one against the Raiders was lost by just giving up an easy lead in the fourth quarter. So they got to get it right. The Ravens have. It's a must win for him. I like the Ravens this week.

Yeah. Do you know, here's a here's a weird stat that would blow your mind. If Mike McCarthy wins two more games this year, which I would assume he does, he will have broken the record for most wins by a Cowboys coach in their first five years. So he would have beaten Jimmy Johnson, which is. That's kind of funny. Kind of crazy.

Include postseason.

I don't think it includes postseason. It's because Jimmy Johnson inherited a terrible team and they won one in 15 his first year. Yeah, but Mike McCarthy, he knows how to rack up wins.

Yeah.

In the regular season.

This does feel like a game that. That you can start to believe in the Cowboys. And if they win.

Yeah, this is a believe game.

It's a believe game. It's a believer.

Whoever wins this game, it's like, yep, they're a good team.

You should be able to add the Ravens as a pinky team. If they go, oh, and three, because at that point, you actually wouldn't think that they would win the Super bowl. Right?

I'll consider it. Yeah. I'll consider it. I'll consider it.

It.

You people that want me to cut off my pink ears. Quite unsettling. 49 ers at Rams kitchen sink game.

Ooh. I had this as a in the lab game.

Yeah. Same thing for Kyle. Yep. Oh. Oh, I had it for Sean.

Oh, I had. For. I. So I think Kyle's gonna be in the lab.

Oh, I think Sean's throwing the kitchen sink.

So it's a kitchen sink first lab game.

Wow.

What's the more important room?

I think Sean McVeigh is going to do some fuck shit. I think Sean McVeigh is going to do similar to what Matt LaFleur did last week, being like, we don't have anyone here. Some crazy shit you've never seen before.

I think it's a. It's a in the lab game for Kyle because, one, he loves going to the lab against Sean.

Yeah.

And he loves beating them to their. Without Debo and Christian McCaffrey.

Sean loves beating Kyle.

Sean loves beating Kyle.

I'm pretty sure Sean beats Kyle. Except for the NFC championship game. Or. No, they beat him in the NFC championship game. What's the Rams? I'm pretty sure Sean beats.

This is an annual traditional part of my take where we mix up who owns who in the NFC west.

Sean McVeigh versus Kyle Shanahan. What is the record? Okay. They have upper hand. Yeah. All right. So it's 1010. And five for whom? For Shannon. So Kyle owns Sean.

Sean.

Sean owns Kyle in the playoffs.

Okay.

He won the NFC champ.

He won that. That NFC championship game.

Yeah. But.

But I know that Kyle loves beating the shit out of Sean McVeigh. He's very good at it.

Yeah.

And he's without Debo. He's without Christian McCaffrey.

Yep. And is back.

Who's back?

Hufanga.

Yeah. So what I think he's going to do, this might be a juice check game.

Ooh.

Cause he likes. If he can't have Debo running the weird gadget shit, doing strange stuff out of the slot. He likes doing that with his fullback, too.

I could see that happening. I just. The reason why I like the Rams in this game is in its gross. The way that game went on Sunday, they just. That game was over. It almost, basically, afterwards, Sean Payton or Sean McVeigh said, there's no positives to take away from this game. Yeah. Like, it just burned the tapes. Even his wife was doing an Instagram story that said, tough times don't last. Tough people do. She's a razor Ramon fan. Yeah. I don't know. I think it should be tighter than we think because it feels like the Rams might be dead, but they got one more shot. Hey, let's throw everything at it. Kitchen sink.

Aren't they getting one of their guys back there?

They're getting some offensive line.

The guys back from his suspension, right?

Yeah. And then Cooper cup and Puka are both out.

Yeah. So the line might get one better guy back. I don't know. I guess this is gonna be a determination. Like, what's better, kitchen sink or the lab.

Yeah.

And I think Kyle's. I think he's got his mad scientist code on this week.

I love that.

He's got the bifocals, graduated cylinders. Beakers.

Love that.

Bunsen burners.

All right, so last game, chiefs at Falcons. We did. We should have said Raheem Morris, all time coach, having his players back after Drake. London got this flag for doing the gun signal. He said, drake is a great kid. His intent was not as a use of weapon. He probably was shooting t shirts into the stands, to be honest with you, because he's just that kind of guy.

I love that. That's it. That's a great. I went back, I watched the all 22 on the celebration. He was tapping the side of the gun.

Yeah.

He wasn't. He was showing tremendous trigger discipline.

He was probably showing the safety zone.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. His fingers were on the side of the gun, and he was tapping it. It was not on the trigger.

Yeah.

So I guess in the woke NFL, you can't even shoot a gun in the crowd anymore.

Crazy.

It's wild.

It's crazy. I kind of like the falcons. Did you also know that the Falcons are giving away free hot dogs, free chips, free refillable drinks on Sunday night?

I did not know that.

It is for the induction of Arthur Blank into the ring of honor, which.

That's awesome.

Don't really understand that, because if you're the owner, why wouldn't you just put yourself in it right away?

That's the best part about being an owner, is you can have a knight commemorating yourself.

Yeah, he's there. They have the souvenir cups, I think. Arthur Blank.

Blank does.

Yes. The souvenir cups. Just have a big picture of his face on it.

I got to get one of those.

And you get the free hot dog, free chips, free refillable drinks.

Every team should do their owner's night.

Yeah.

And then you should sell the cups. And I would collect all 32 owners cups.

A celebration of Arthur. I don't think they can't lose on Arthur blank night.

No. He's going to be on the sidelines the entire game.

The fans come to see art. Yeah.

So are they going to retire his number?

I guess so.

Or suit just hanging? Yeah, they should hang a giant red suit. His face, the velvet.

Yeah. His mustache.

Hang a giant Home Depot banner at midfield.

I just think the Chiefs are, even though they're two and o, they haven't looked incredible. They've survived two tough games.

No pacheco.

No pacheco. Carson Steele's gonna. And they also signed cream hunt. I just. Yeah, I think that, I think the Falcons, that that was one of those galvanizing wins. They might have, they might have gotten their groove back.

They kind of feel good about them. Although I do want, I want to see a Carson steel game.

Yeah.

I want it for, for Crockey the alligator.

Yeah, they said, I saw a beat reporter said that someone on the Falcon said this was one of the biggest wins they've had, or if not the biggest win in, like, the last five years, which I think it was.

Oh, for sure.

Yeah.

Easily the best one they've had in the last five years.

So this is a turning point. I think the Falcons are live.

Yeah. No, they're not alive. I think going up against Andy Reid and Spags is gonna be a little bit different than going up against a team with no coach.

I do worry about the matchup. Chris Jones verse, Kirk Cousins achilles. Yeah, that one scares me a little, but we'll see.

Just go no huddle. The entire time?

Yeah.

Two minute drill the whole time.

Rip it. Just rip it the entire time. Okay, so a couple things we got to do. We got to do our picks, but we also have to do our touchdown parlay. So, Max, you're out. I'm in. Pft. Hank and I are going to do it so everyone can go bet on it. On the Draftkings touchdown parlay profit boost they have this week. All customers get up to 100% profit boost on any NFL touchdown parlay. The more touchdown bets you add to your bet slip. The bigger the boost and the bigger you're winning. Download the Draftkings sportswear cap use code take. That's code take for everyone to score up to 100% profit boost on any NFL touchdown parlay. Only on draftkings. The crown is yours. So we will have this up, I think, Friday night. So you can bet it. We have Rowan two on the season, but we're going down to three games. We? I think, what? We have one out of three last week.

Yep.

So let's get a winner. Let's get a winner. Hank, give us someone.

I'm going to go with Nico Collins. CJ shrouds favorite. Favorite target.

Okay, that's misses pepper.

He's a little banged up, but it'll be okay.

Why you gotta.

Because I have him in my fancy leagues, and he had the red thing next to him.

What are the odds on him?

I haven't changed anything. I just saw the red thing next to him. You know what I'm talking about?

Plus 110.

Okay.

I'm gonna go with revenge game for himself for dropping that past Saquon Barkley.

Okay.

He's gonna score. He's got to. After that, after what happened and.

And being down on the goal line.

Right. He's got a score. He's gonna. They're gonna make sure he scores because.

I want to take Khalil Herbert.

Okay.

Talk me out of it.

I like it. No, I can't.

It's a little juicy.

I can't.

Plus 255.

I can't. I can't.

Colts defense, not good at all.

Wants to talk.

I'm a hater. But you. You everything I say.

So I'm going away from my sister. That's fair.

That's fair by you.

I even think, for some dumb reason, I think that having Andy Dalton as your quarterback in Carolina is going to make the defense play harder.

Yeah.

So I'm not going to pick against the Panthers in this. I'm going to take Khalil Herbert.

Who do you have Nico. Do you want it to? All right, should we pick one afternoon? One? So it's spaced out, so it's too early. One afternoon. I can change mine from Saquon.

I can change one.

No, I kind of like these. Let's just go with it.

All right. You want to?

Yeah, it's good.

Say, like, Dave Montgomery, Jamir Gibbs. But yeah.

Okay.

It's good to get a win early.

All.

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Memes.

Memes.

Memes. The Jets Patriots game. Everyone already heard us react to it, but you can predict it.

Right now I'm gonna say 30 to three.

Oh, who wins?

Jets.

Okay.

Okay.

All right. So let's do our picks. We have decided on a punishment, and we've. Yeah, we. Well, I guess you haven't. You weren't there when Max Ps and I talked, but I think you'll be fine with it. Last place in the pix league this year is going to have to go to a bachelor party and wedding. Same one. Just become new friends. Yes. Same couple. What do you think about that, Hank?

Sure.

Aw. Els. And then this.

I think you should have to blog it to who's picking.

Blog? What do you mean? Vlog it. You vlog it.

Everyone's gonna get whoever goes vlogging. Have to bring a little.

You might have to bring a cameraman.

Yeah.

Yeah. Might have to.

That's why.

So, I mean, me and memes are just fucked regardless.

No, you don't have to go.

We don't have to have you. You don't like it, Hank?

No, that's. That's good. Good punishment.

And then second place. We'll have to go to a retirement party.

Yeah.

Yeah. Or divorce party.

I kind of like divorce party.

They can choose retirement or divorce. I'd like to go to a retirement party. I think that'd be fun to do. A funeral.

Divorce parties get wild if a funeral.

Pops up, we're not gonna go with it.

Now to tie in with the Super bowl, though, what if second place did the shadow mincy round for. For three days in New Orleans?

I think the last place. You'd have to do that, if any. Anything. But we could maybe add that. Hank, you don't. I feel. I'm feeling like you don't love it. Wait. Let's. Let's talk it out. Let's be open. What are we thinking? Let's talk it out.

I'm fine with whatever you guys want to do, but let's talk it out.

I know.

Corporate overload. No bad ideas. Let's just talk it out.

Do we sell this?

You sell the vlog, and you sell the blogs.

Why can't we sell. Why can't we sell the patch report to Coors light or something like that?

I have. I. You were the one who was like, why does everything have to be a stream when I said that?

No.

Well, like the Chevy, like, drops country, right?

Can we dream?

You don't think stand up was a pay per view?

You know, like someone would. You don't think someone would be down to sponsor this? Like, we could get the bachelor party paid for, and it's like, it's brought to you by this. We get all the shirts, everyone wearing it.

So we talked.

Well, let's not say that's not. Put that out there.

Okay.

But it's a possibility.

Don't know if that's.

There could be elements.

Yeah.

Disclaimer. That's really 100% true. That your bachelor party will be paid, correct?

Yes.

Correct. But we could potentially figure out a way to have a situation where it's like, we almost plan your bachelor party for you, but we. But again, not paid for, but we don't know this.

Right?

You don't know any of.

Yes, maybe one night.

This is. This is all speculative.

Your wedding is paid for for by. Pardon my cheesesteak.

Yeah.

I think what Hank's upset about is the fact that the. The stand up is way worse of a punishment than going to a wedding in a bachelor party. That's what he's upset.

The past is the past. We got to get over. The past is the past.

We also, Hank and I discussed someone's got to do. Do a pinball punishment.

Ooh. I mean, the bachelor party and wedding sucks. Really bad for me, and pft probably sucks. That's really bad for me.

Could be. Okay.

Really, really bad. I do think it'd be funny content, especially funny.

Awl, how many days would you go for?

Two. You have to go for at least two.

Two nights.

Two nights.

Leave Friday, come back Sunday.

Yeah, yeah. Have to go for at least two nights because show Hank, think about this. You might. You probably get to golf.

I'm down. I'm down.

Probably get to golf.

I'm down.

And if the person wants one of us to be in their wedding, that also. So we're down.

Yeah.

We get a suit sponsor. Imagine being in.

I mean, Max is definitely gonna lose.

You cool with this one?

The one weekend Max doesn't have a wedding, he's gonna have to do it as a punishment.

I mean, I am in last right now.

Yeah. Be so funny. You're just gonna basically make a whole new group of friends, and there are listeners, so this gets the listeners involved, too. All right, so what's this? What's the record so far? Far?

I think everyone's three in one.

Oh, there you go.

I think three and one and the pick ii, Max. One, two, one.

Okay, that ties gonna stick around for a while.

Yeah.

Ties gonna make a difference.

All right, who's up first?

It was a fucking bo. Nicks last. Like, last minute nothing. Touchdown.

Who's up first?

Pft.

Okay, I am going to go with with the Dolphins. Seahawks. I'm going to take the under on that game.

Ooh. Okay, I'm going to go with the bears. Don't laughing. The bears. Colts over 43 and a half. Don't laugh.

Okay, I won't.

Thank you.

I'm going to do Seahawks under is right now 41 and a half.

Okay, I'm going to take the commander's Bengals under 47.

Yeah.

Okay, I'm gonna take Saints minus two.

And a half against who could pick the Eagles?

Good pick.

Memes. The Eagles.

I am going to start with Rams niners under 44 and a half. And I'm gonna get stinked.

Yeah. Get stinky.

Panthers plus five.

Yeah. I love it. I love it.

I'm gonna take the lions, Cardinals over 51 and a half.

Okay.

I will take. I was gonna take the Panthers. I will go with the, I guess 49 ers minus seven.

Hank, that's not you. I know that's not you, Hank. Don't do that. That's not you.

So stinky.

That's not you, Hank. Take the Bronco.

Do you want to get real stinky, Hank?

Stinky.

Yeah.

Broncos are getting so stinky now.

My pick is made.

Oh, your pick is in. Officially.

Yep. I take the giants. That's also stinky.

I'll take the Falcons. Plus three and a half. You got to just go against Malik Willis again. You got to get your. You got to get your revenge. It's a personal revenge game for you.

I'm going to double my bet from last week. I'm going to go with the Titans.

Yes. I believe this time last week, I didn't believe in you this week.

This might be the last time I get to bet against Malik Willis.

There you go. Let's go.

You have to take advantage of these moments.

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All night.

What's all that then?

What's all that then?

My name is Pippin Tolly.

Pippin Tolly.

I, Pippin, lord of the Blackwater. My stock on this week. Dylan Royola.

Dylan Royal.

He's plus 8000 to win the Heisman. A lot of Ada's on his patty Mahomes. I think he's gonna come out and show people that he's better than Patty Mahomes is copying him. He's not copying Paul.

Number 15 1st.

He's got swagger. I think Dustin Pedroia did actually, mate.

Oh, all right.

Learn more baseball.

My system is the office.

Australia. Oh, Australia boy.

America tried to copy our show first and it sucked.

Oh, and this show they think they're.

Doing, this shows gonna suck even more.

Taking a piss out of it.

They can't even fucking hold a jockstrap to our office, mate, Ricky Gervais.

Classic, classic comedian. Who's playing. Who's played?

Ricky from Pittsburgh.

Ricky Gervais.

Yeah, I know that. Yeah. Accents are slipping, right?

Is a thing.

Here's the thing.

Is the thing. Peppin, here's the thing. Are you done?

Are you done? Get on with it. Baltimore Oreos.

Oreos in my sleep at the win the World Series.

Have you watched the Baltimore Orioles recently? Yeah. Did you? Definitely haven't fucking sting.

I watch cricket, but I think the Orioles. I'm just thinking, who's gonna beat the Phils?

Yeah.

I don't want to do the freaking junkies.

The Baltimore Orioles might not even make the playoffs.

A is that possible?

It is possible. They've been playing the terrible, terrible baseball. They are shy.

Well, that's why the sleepers, everyone's sleeping on the.

Him.

Craig Kimbrough, also sleeping. He sucks.

Yeah. The two, they just.

They just waved the closer there, too.

Waved them. Waved a closer. One who sets up like a bird, isn't he?

The Baltimore Orioles. Four games up in the. In the wild card, but they've been two and eight in the last ten.

Well, that's what I'm saying, mates. The people are sleeping on.

Australian version of the wire for Baltimore. Of all these guys.

Send the sleeves. Shade. Shade. Shite. Omar. Coming. Okay.

I I'm Nigel. Nigel.

Nigel.

Nigel.

I'm.

This week I'm starting having pints with the lads. Nigel, have a couple points with lads. Go out, grab a couple pints. Right.

A new beginning.

I've been watching that show industry. Not sure what it's about. They're always having points and fucking each other.

I love that.

I want this.

I watched a season of that and then I gave up.

It's a lot of corks in that.

A lot of cocks.

Cocks left and right. So that guy's got a cock.

A lot of sex. That guy's got quarter cock, a cocaine. Crikey. Yeah.

So I'm sorry, I forget what I was starting.

I don't know.

I was starting with the boys.

With the boys.

Let's all go out, have some points with the boys. It's going to be a great time in it this week. My sleep, my sitting team. I'm with Russell Wilson. I think he's shite.

Yeah.

I think he's probably done in the NFL because Justin Fields just seen. I was going to have a hell of a weekend. He's going to have a great game. His first great game.

I like.

Then we're not going to see any more of that Russell Wilson all over my tv anymore. And I'm very, very happy about that indeed. My sleepers. Your pages. Don't get rid of your pages. Yeah. Bad week to have pages. Might blow up on you. Might put a hole in the your hip.

Oh, boy.

Oi.

Hello. Hello, chaps. My name is Oliver Butterscotch.

Hello, ob.

My stardom is Mu Dang the hippo.

Moo dang. What are you doing here?

I fucking love that fucking baby hippo. I just want to boop it and fucking love it and squeeze it all day.

Oh, hippo is very dangerous.

Not this one. Mu dang's a pygmy hippo. He's a little baby.

I think he fucking eat your baby.

If he can, little baby. And all she does is run around and dudes crazy if you try to.

Mute, we should have on the podcast.

Yeah. I go buy a moodang shirt. It's in store. Dot bar. Still sports calm right now. Moodang supremacy. Great hippo. My sitam is the Colts defense. Caleb Williams gonna have three touchdowns. Oi. Three of them. Free. Free.

Have you lost your mind?

Free touchdowns. I said it for the coach defense. Reese, that's very. I don't like what you. I don't like what you said there, Pippin.

I'm just trying to clarify.

It's very mean indeed.

My sleepers. Nannies, did you see the viral nanny?

She's hot with viral nanny.

There was a varroa viral nanny. She's real hot. What are you talking about being viral nanny? She's hottest hot hot. In all due respect, she's viral.

My might. Hugh Grant absolutely loved his nanny.

Look at this nanny. So there's. There was a. There was, like, a prompt being like. Like, someone was like, oh, yeah, my kid learned spanish because she was with my nanny so much.

Mm hmm.

And then this TikTok went viral of this colombian nanny, and everyone's like. Like this most trusting wife ever. Yeah, she's attractive.

That's. That's very good.

She's gone very viral. Yeah. Shout out that nanny. Okay.

I would learn leche immediately.

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Okay, we now welcome on recurring guests. It's been too long. Yeah, it is. Spice Adams.

What's up, man?

It's great to have you here. Anthony Spice Adams, bear for life.

Indeed.

Talking some ball. I want to talk everything, but let's start with I guess we got to talk about.

We don't. Whatever you about to say we don't.

Well, I was gonna say we got. We got at least just briefly touch on panic meter for the Bears panic leader. People are freaking out. Yeah, it's alright. So let's do it.

This.

Let's not do a camera caleb conversation. Let me do a bigger conversation. Playing in the NFL, your team starts the season. At what point is there, oh, shit. This might not be going the way we think it is because I can't be week two. Week two is way too early. Right.

It is. I mean, and you talking to a guy that's. I went two and 14, right? I've been on teams went two and 14. Four and twelve, seven and nine. So you're talking to a guy that's basically been through it all but week two. Nah, man. And we got a win under our belt already. Yeah, I think they're good, man. Defense plan outstanding. Special teams is really good. We just got to get the offense on the same page at some point.

So what's the week that you would say like you can feel like this is what the team is. We know what we are. We maybe have an identity because that's also the part is like, I feel like the first two weeks teams are trying to just figure out what their identity is. Is what is the thing they want to lean on and do.

Well, I think by the second quarter you should know, like, this is the first quarter. Yeah. Hey, bro, that was always the formula. Like, that's all we know. And, you know, I think by the second quarter, man, you should know the type of team you get. You should know if you're a running team, if you're a play action team, or if you're on defense and you're a defense that stopped the run, you're a defense that get a lot of takeaways ways like, you should know that by the second.

So that's weeks. 5353. Yeah.

So in other words, the week the season used to be broken down was a 16 game season. Yeah, the first four games, that was the first quarter of the season. And then halfway through the second quarter, you got to know who you are. Now if you're on one of those teams where you have a great defense and a not so great offense.

Yeah, it's frustrating.

It's frustrating to watch too because they always bring up the stat. It's always 21 points. I think it's like, dude, we just average 21 points. Here's how many wins we would have had.

Imagine a team going on a 15 play drive and you stop them and you get a takeaway and you going off to the sideline, everybody's shaking their hands like, hey man, good job. Quarterback. Or somebody, whoever, go out there, throw an interception or fumble the ball. Not a defense. Right back out. Like dude, we were just out there for 15 plays man. And we stopped the high powered offense. Now we got to like get 25 seconds arrest and now we back out there. Yeah, it junk is frustrating.

The craziest thing that I think that maybe, you know, we've been lucky enough to be around a lot of NFL players and you learn it over time. But like fans are sitting on the couch. They don't fully realize like all we can base off is like you sports and like, oh yeah, you're best friends. You play with them, right. In an NFL locker room. I feel like it is a very clear dividend and defense and you don't really cuz you're not in meetings with them. Yeah, you're not really. You might have a friend or two on the other side but like for the most part you're sticking with your unit and your guys.

Yeah.

And that's where some of the friction can happen. If one side isn't, isn't pulling. Is that. Is that a fair assessment?

I don't know, man. Cuz I'm coming from a locker room where we were all together. Yeah, like, I understand what you're saying. Like, when we break up the defensive line, going to defensive line room, linebackers going in their room, tight ends going in their room. But when we all get together in that locker room, we were playing dodgeball, we were playing basketball. Like, we made up all kind of games in the locker room. So it never really felt like, you know, we were all like, individualized, you know what I mean? Like, we were playing with the old linemen and stuff like that. And we battle all the time. So the fact that we were friends and we would go out to dinner and things like that, like, I think the Bears were just different. Like, our whole, like, atmosphere in that locker room was crazy, man. It was. It was a great thing to be a part of, bro. I can't even front.

But you were also. You're also different. Cause you're friends with everyone.

Yeah, man.

You're one of those guys that I feel like I'm an only child, really.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm kicking with everybody, man. I always been like that.

Yeah, the Niners team, you also had Larry Allen on the offensive side, right? So you didn't want to say anything bad because Larry, just whoop your ass.

That's. That's the legalized killer right there.

He's a psycho, right?

Um, dude. Like, I've never got into my stance and was just like, whatever I'm thinking is just not gonna work. Like, just. Just being deflated as soon as you get in your stance. I've never done that as many times as it was lining up against him in practice. And every time, you know, somebody wanted to go up against, and they'd be like, ah, man, take this rip for me, man. My leg. Stretch my leg real quick, man. And I'll never forget this. This is why my back feel like how it do right now. It would slip out of place. My black. My back would slip out of place. Every time I went up against Larry Allen and we would do the Oklahoma drill, Frank Gore would be the running back and then it would be Larry. And then I'm on the other side of Larry. But we're in a three four, so I'm in a true zero. So I'm not like, like on an edge or anything. Like I'm head up and I gotta back up off the ball because I have to mirror wherever they go. So I'm in a true three four. So if he steps to his left I gotta step to my right.

If he steps to his right, I gotta step to my left. So I'm just head up with Larry every practice, and every time, I'm just like, low man wins. This is what I'm telling myself in my head. And I'm just like, it doesn't matter with Larry, dude. Cause he is like a tank. I. If he wants to pancake you, he's gonna pancake you. If he wants to take you somewhere, he's just gonna take you somewhere. So I would just. I would get in my stance, and I would just, like, here and then Frank could choose this gap, or he could choose this gap, either one of these a gaps. And I'm not gonna reach out to try to tackle him. I'm just here.

Yeah.

So Frank would just. It was just a basically jog drill for Frank. I'm not. If you reach your hand. Yeah, that's just saying dump me.

Yeah.

That's saying Larry Allen, dump me and put all 400 pounds of yourself on. Like.

Or Frank just takes your arm off.

Yeah. What? Frank was going to do that anyway. That's just how Frank runs. But. But Larry Allen, bro, was like, straight hand. Called him. He's a legalized killer.

Yeah.

Maybe the strongest player to ever play in the NFL.

Right, dude? So I seen him in a weight room. He has five plates on with chains hanging off of it. Like, big, thick chains, like you can hear. That's how you know Larry was in it. He's in there by itself. He's, uh. He got it on the bench, and he. He likes to walk on an incline. So he's walking on the incline, and so I come in there, and he starts to get on a bench. I say, you need a spot. So the five plates that he has on there and the chains, he's just repping it, like, as he's looking at me. So I'm like, all right, man. Good talk, man. See you tomorrow. So I just leave. That dude was just. Just unbelievably strong.

Yeah. Do you think so? Talking about the Oklahoma draw, I don't think they even do it anymore, especially, you know, like, training camps are different. Pre season different. Do you. Can you see it when you're watching the game? Like, oh, yeah, this doesn't. Especially early in the season, like, this doesn't look like what it should look like because these guys just haven't been playing together.

I don't know, man. It just. It still looked like football to me. But, you know, we were the guinea pigs, man. We. I mean, we full pads, two a day, every day. We were in full pass so much. When you erase it off the grease board, you can still see it. You can still see the words full pat. It's crazy the amount of practicing we did at and pass, and, like, now they got all the rules and hours that you can and can't do it and all of that. So it's like, now you want to get smart, now you want to protect our brains.

Yeah.

We had to go through the wringer for years, man.

Yeah, two days, three days sometimes. For some coaches, it was like, the more you suffer, the better you'll be. I don't. I don't always subscribe to that, like, the old school NFL coach mentality. And, I mean, I'm just drawn back to my high school experience, but it seems like the coaches that you. You had that would be, like, the strictest, the ones that wanted to just beat the shit out of you, those ended up not always being the best head coaches.

I don't know. Sometimes it's hit or miss, you know? We had a legendary coach by the name of coach James Reynolds at my high school, Martin Luther King, in Detroit, Michigan, man. And we ran 45 and 46 counter where I was pulling every dog on player. We just. Just like, bruh, how many times are we gonna run this play? And I would be pulling, like, every play, bro. And. But the amount of running that we did at my high school, it got me prefer. It got me prepared to go to Penn State, like, because I was like, dang, practice is over with. Yeah, cuz. That's all we did was run, man. I was like, dog, like. But it paid off for me, man, cuz by the time I got to college, I was like, oh, all right. I this straight. Yeah.

How did your recruiting go? Did you not. Did you get recruited by Michigan? Michigan?

I did.

It was like, not to.

It was kind of late, you know, after. Well, what happened was there was upperclassmen that was getting recruited by Penn State. He said, man, why don't you come out? First of all, I've never played football before. Like, I didn't play little league. And then, like, I was too big. I've been this same size and height since I was twelve, so I was like 290 when I.

And you look good right now, by the way.

I appreciate it. Right now, I'm at, like, middle school weight.

This is 6th grade.

6Th grade. 200 7265. That's 6th grade.

That's insane. They wouldn't let you play full.

Yeah, because you got to be like, 150 or 146.

Way over your 6th grade. Spice Adams.

Right now I'm like, I'm 511 290 at twelve. So I never played football. So me, what happened? My mom drove me up to my high school. You had to take a test to get in the top three schools in Detroit. Cast King and Renaissance and I went to King. And so upon my mom knowing that I passed this test to get to the school, she was like, all right, cool. Now you about to play football. And I'm like, man, I don't want to play football. Like I'm from bad boy Detroit, baby. I play basketball. Yeah, we in the street, we hoopin a come a car man is back on. Car gone. Like we, we hoopin'so. My mom take me up there and I play. Long story short, I love it. Let's go again.

How quickly was it like, oh shit, he can play?

I don't know cuz they told me to line up at guard and I was like, I promise, right hand the guy, I said point guard or shooting guard? It was like, get this big dude out of here, man. Like seriously, dog, like, so I had no idea what I was doing, but I was very coachable, so I didn't know. Apparently I was doing good because they wanted me to, they wanted to move me up to varsity. So I was like, dang, I must be supposed to do. Yeah.

Wow.

So the last, I think like the last three games or something like that, they had moved me up, but I didn't get no burn.

So.

So my sophomore year, I'm like, dog, I'm starting. So I think the upper class, when he saw this and he saw something in me, he was like, man, why don't you come to this Penn state camp with me? So I'm like, dang. Like, I never played football before and I got this upper class who was getting recruited by Penn State, he asked me to go to the camp with him. I'm like, ma, can I go? It's dollar 280. And she's like, oh my. So my mom is, she's looking in the couche. She's scraping up awkward. And I didn't notice until my forties. My mom was like, you know, your uncle paid for that. Oh, wow, I had no idea. Like this whole time one of my uncles ended up giving my mom the money, but I end up going to the camp and when I went to that camp, they offered me at the.

Camp as a sophomore.

Yeah.

Who had just started playing. I was like, all I knew, that's just natural talent.

I'm from Detroit, bro. So it's people working at the big three. I've seen people with broke legs going to work. Like, all I knew was work. So when we went to the camp, I'm sprinting to every drill. I'm staying after practice. Like, hey, can we work some more stuff, whatever. Because all this stuff is new to me. I'm trying to get it down right. So by the time I go back to Detroit, I was like, people can be like, oh, man. Like, whatever camp you went to, like, I can tell. Whatever. It's like I'm taking notes. Like, I got like a little notebook. I'm writing stuff down. And before long they was like, hey, you want to come to school here? They was like, you want to meet Joe? And I was like, I didn't know who Joe Paterno was. Right. All right, let's meet him, whoever this Joe is. Like, I got no idea, man. And, you know, ever since then, bro, it was just like, I love the game, bro. And I love playing nose guard. Like, I love everything that everybody hates. Like, I love, like, preseason, I love, like, how hot it is, how miserable it is.

That's what I'm learning about myself. Yeah, like, I like to be pushing yourself.

Yeah.

I feel like if I don't go through something and I'm not even doing any, so.

So Michigan and Michigan state kind of eyes up late where once they saw.

I was getting recruited by Penn State, then they started recruiting me. Then Nick Saban came up to the school and stuff.

Wow, Dick Saban?

Yeah. Yeah.

So was there any choice or you just like. No, Penn State was the first one who saw me.

Yeah, like once. And then I wanted to get away from the state of Michigan.

Yeah.

I mean, like, I don't want to get homesick and I could just drive 45 minutes and be back at the crib. I was like, nah. So going out to Penn State, it was different, man. It was like mountains there. It was like squirrels coming up to you. Like Happy Valley. Like, it's really happy Valley. You know what I mean? Like I'm used to if a squirrel see you in Detroit, these out of there, like, world's coming up to you like I'm snow White or something like that. It's crazy. But it took me, it took me like two years to even speak to people because in Detroit you can't just walk up on somebody and be like, what's up?

Right?

Hey, what's up? Like, what do you mean, what's up? Like, it's. That's a fight. So when people were talking to me at Penn State, I was just like, what's this, dude? Like, it took me about two years to just say hi back to another person saying hello to me.

The personality that you were describing is a big asset to have. Like, no matter what you're doing, if you're on a football team or just, like, your buddy, if somebody is happiest when everyone's miserable, yeah. That's a good person to have, because it makes doing the hard stuff so much easier. If there's somebody around that's enjoying it and helping you enjoy it more.

Right. Yeah. Because that's why, you know, if you take any three technique on any team and tell him you gonna move him to nose guard, they're gonna be like, no. Like, it's gonna be the worst thing in the world that they could ever hear. Yeah, that's where I relish. Like, I. Let's go. Like, the double teams. Like, it's the most thankless position in all the football. Playing a true nose guard, eating up space. That's it.

Yeah.

It pretty much made Albert Haynes quiet. Quit. He retired after they did. Yeah.

No, there's no joke.

Yeah, yeah.

So what point at Penn State were you like, oh, shit, I'm gonna get drafted. This is. I love these stories. When someone comes to a sport late, and it just. It feels like it happens. It. I mean, it did happen for you in a matter of years.

It was. It was crazy, man. Like, I had no aspirations of going to the NFL. I was just like, that'd be a bonus. Like, I just wanted to get my piece of paper, be all american, win national championship and stuff like that. And then, like, if the NFL happened in. Yes. Like, that's. That's amazing. But. But once I saw this center from Purdue, I don't know his name, but the Steelers drafted him in the 2001 draft or two draft or something like that. And I had a monster game against him. I mean, I was doing stuff that you dream about. Like, I'm gonna do this move and throw this guy out the way. Like, I was doing those moves on him. Cause it was a real emotional game for us because the game before we played Ohio State, and one of my teammates was like, they said he'll never walk again. Adam Tyler Farrow. So the next game after that was purdue. And so I had a monster game, and I saw him get drafted, so I was like, chucky akobi is his name? Yes.

Yeah. I just looked it up for you.

They drafted him, and I was like, I know they saw the penn state game, right? If they draft him third round, I'm like, dude, I got to go second or first, at least just off of the game that I had. And so I was like, man. And then my coach pulled me over to the side. Cause I was, like, just sad or whatever, just how much work it take to be good and balance classes and stuff like that. So I was, like, feeling sorry for myself, not going to class and being late to class and all this. So coach Larry Johnson pulled me over to the side and said, man, you messing with greatness. Like, you could really be good, man. Like, you got to start getting your stuff together. So I was like. He was like, you know, I had some teams calling me, and I was like, what? It was some teams from, like, the national football League that called you about me. So I was like, that's all I needed to hear.

Yeah.

And then I was like, all right, cool. Like, I just started sacrificing, you know, me going out to different parties and stuff like that and hanging out, and I just, like, I just wiped myself clean of everything, bro. I just. I just started focusing.

That's awesome.

I got drafted in the second round.

Yeah.

And so then after you make it to the NFL, is there a point where I don't know, what was your attitude like going into that first camp? Was it like, were you aggressive? Were you excited? Was there a moment where you got out there on the practice field and you were like, okay, I can actually excel at this. I'm good enough to play in the.

Once I got drafted. Yeah, well, I was there with Bryant Young, who's the hall of famer, and so I was just like, I'm just gonna do everything he did, everything that he do, I'm gonna try to do it. And it was so funny because they set me up my first practice. So you leave out the door, and you, like, you right out on the field. So when that door opened, b, wow. Just took off, like, gone. And I'm just like, oh. So I'm trying to keep up with him. And we go through the la. We go through, like, all these individual drills, and I'm just like, I can't even catch my breath. And he's just like, let's go. And I was like, oh, my gosh. Like, this. Is this what it's like? And he didn't tell me to, like, you know, I got to my second year or something like that. Like, hey, we was just. He was just messing with you. Yeah. It took me a while, man, and. But I used to make, like, little splashes here and there. I get, like, a TfL or I sniffden out of screen. Or coach Jim Moore, who was the defensive coordinator at the time, he would point out plays that I would do where I would fall on the ground, but I would get up and chase down a pass, and he was like, this is the type of effort we need, or whatever.

So I was like, dang, all right, I might got a shot here. You know what I'm saying? But we were just losing, man. I think that year we had to Garrison Hearsthenne, Jeff Garcia. We had Derek Deese, we had Ron Stone, we had Jeremy Newberry. Like, we had some dogs, and we still went, like, seven and nine that year. So I knew how hard it was to win in the league, man. And, you know, we. I mean, we had Julie and Peterson. Like, we had some straight dogs on the defense, man, and just. We had seven and nine, bro.

I feel like t could still play. Every time I see him, I'm like, no question, bro.

No question, man. Yeah, he nice with it.

When you're watching the league now, are you like, God damn it, they can't. They can't do anything with the quarterback. Cause it is totally.

Oh, my God, does it piss you off?

Watch it.

Just put a flag on it.

Yeah.

Like, some of the stuff, it's like the linemen are pushing you into the quarterback a lot of times, man, and it's just. It's just crazy to watch, man. And. But it's football, man. Like, it's like, it's a contact sport. Like, some of this stuff is gonna happen. Like, they trying to do the. Where you tackle the running back and, like, by the hip or something like that. You're not. Your whole thing is to get him down. Like, you're not saying, oh, let me do this illegal tackle so that I could tear his acl or break his ankle or something like that. Like, you're just trying to get the guy down, man. You run at full speed, you don't have time to gage. Like, oh, is my helmet going? Come in contact with his helmet. Is he gonna duck fast enough for it to not be like, a penalty? Like, you don't have time to think. Yeah, you just go and you just react. Like, I think all of this stuff, like, somebody got to step in and, like, everybody always wants to make it. Like, let's. Let's score points. Let's make this. This league easy to score points and stuff like that.

And nobody really thinking about what the defense got to go through.

Yeah.

There hasn't been a rule change that favors the defense in a very long time.

The only thing they got is, like, if you are not seeing the block that's coming, I think the lineman from the coach just did something like Quint Nelson.

Yeah.

Do black off.

Yeah.

And he was just like, hey, you can see how easy it is to just knock somebody down because pancake.

Yeah.

And he just, he didn't even do nothing.

Yeah.

He was like, give it that good.

Give it a thumbs up.

Like, was, that was dope. But if that was Olin Cruz.

Yeah.

Would've been different. Yeah. No, you're right about like, the hip drop tackle. It's, to me, it seems like the NFL is, they like to make it seem like they're making steps for player safety, but I've noticed, I've seen, like three hip, hip drop tackles and they're not calling them. So they like, made the rule to discourage from people from doing it, but they're not actually enforcing the rule because.

They see how ridiculous it is, is you see these guys, they're not trying to, like, end people careers. They're just trying to get you down, man, and get to the next play, get off the field. Like, so I don't, I don't agree with that, that hip tackle stuff, man. But like you say, man, they, they trying to like, like, it's a contact sport, not, and I get it, like, you're trying to protect people and trying to protect the guys getting injured and stuff like that. But it's a physical sport, man. It's gonna happen.

Yeah.

This might be a dumb question, but at what point did you figure out what kind of face mask you like to use?

That's actually not a bad question.

Not a bad question.

I think you just, you learn from whoever the guy that's on your team that got the most swag.

Mm hmm.

You just learn from him. Yeah, that's what, that's what I do.

I want to be like, you biggest bro.

Like, hey, bread, like, what you think about this face mask that they immediate be like, nah. Then you'd be like, then you just go to the next one. Or you just say out of the face masks, that defense alignment where, which one, like, is the most respect? Like, which one would get the most respect?

Yeah.

And so I take that one.

They used to have the ones for the defense alignment that would have the bar down the middle.

I can't win your eyes. I can't. Yeah. Cuz I'll be looking like this, like, no, nobody, nobody want to do that?

Yeah. How. How weird is it for you now? You played in the NFL. You're a great NFL player. Played a Penn state, and now you're just at sometimes just a meme where it's like, oh, shit, that's my face. Because you do have some of the best with cream biggums or just some of your pictures, you know, obviously the one with you behind the tree rubbing your hands. Like, is that so? Like, people don't realize, like, oh, that's an NFL player. They just see the meme, like, oh, you're the meme guy? Is that weird?

No, it's just, like, a testament to what I'm doing now. Yeah, I mean, like, I do a lot of stuff on social media and stuff like that. And if you want to, I guess, dig deeper, you could find out that I actually played nine years. When I put pictures up of me, like, action shots of me playing, they like, oh, man, this Photoshop guy is pretty good. Right, right.

Because there's a whole, like, group of people that are like, oh, yeah, you're. Oh. Like, they probably see you on the street. You're like, oh, you're the guy from behind the tree in the yellow suit.

And it's funny, man, because it's just like, I've got to the point where I got a second career now, you know what I mean? And I'm making something from that. And I think the fact that I played nine years in the NFL, it's kind of just like, it's an afterthought now. You know what I mean? And I just got to move on. Like, I'm a dad now, like a volunteer coach at my son's school. Like, you know, I'm saying, like, I was talking to you earlier, like, I feel like I'm an Uber driver. I'm just taking the kids back and forth to practice and stuff like that. I'm just like a regular dude.

Is it hard coaching your kids, being like, I know football better than everyone, but I have to kind of take a step back here? Cause I would imagine that'd be frustrating at times where it's like, no, I've played in the NFL. Like, I know what I'm talking about, but I'm not the head coach.

No, I don't take myself too serious like that. You know, at the end of the day, like, these kids are 1516 years old, and, you know, they need to hear from other folk, you know, and people who've been coaching for as long as I've been playing in the NFL, you know what I mean? So it doesn't matter how long I played in the NFL, you know, these coaches know what it's like to coach these teenagers longer than I've been playing. I give the coaches the opportunity to coach my son up when he get home and stuff like that. I got a video I just put out now where he has to take the garbage cans up front. Like, I don't care if you play football, bass. I don't care what you. You taking them cans up front. I had to do it. You about to do it. So I set these cans up as a center. I had a guard, and I had a tackle. Three waste management cans. And I'm like, this is how you squeeze blocks. Like, you stop running upfield. You can't rush the passer every time. You got to stop the run.

So this is what you do. You condense the gap. So I'm coaching him, whether it's he taking out the trash, whether he's cutting the grass, whether he's doing the dishes. Like, you see how you washing the dish like that?

Yeah.

Imagine doing a club movement, coming with a rip. It's the same type of motion. And you gotta have your hands tight.

Football's everywhere.

Always coaching.

You see football everywhere?

Yeah. Open the door for your mom. You see, like, you gotta. It's just like ripping the ball out. You do the same thing, like, it's like a peanut punch. You gotta open the door. So I'm always coaching them, no matter what.

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How hyped. I mean, peanut punch is legendary, but.

Like, my dog, would you as a.

Defensive unit in the back of your head, we're like, we'll get at least one every game. Because of peanut.

Yes. If you watch the film.

I know it's crazy.

Whenever I see 33, I'm sprinting because I'm like, you never got to worry about me sprinting to the ball. If peanut is around, I'm like, and it paid off for me in the Eagles game. And I think Vic might have been a quarterback, but somebody, he hit somebody on a slant and sure enough, Peanut punched it out, and I got an opportunity to get it, man, I ain't going nowhere. Cause Alex Brown in block, per usual.

But it had to have felt like almost a superpower, being like, we got a guy back there that he'll get the ball, at least on the, on the ground, you know, once a game.

Peanut was by far one of the hardest workers I've seen. Like this dude, the game where Adrian Peterson went crazy on us, but then he went crazier against the Chargers. You could see peanut chasing every time. And Peanut would be on the other side of the field and he'd be running like he's going to get him. And he would, like, be the last line to, like, try to, like, swipe at his legs. So I respected him so much for that. And it's just like, contagious. When you see somebody working that hard, you're like, man, I gotta meet his, his level of intensity or at least look like I'm giving everything that I got, too, because that's hard. That's a hard job. Like, you come off of trying to, like, get somebody on a go route. Like these. These dudes are sprinting downfield every play, running all kind of. And then you chase Adrian Peterson on top of that, and then you gotta go block for Devin on punt, dog. Like, Peanut had got so much respect for me, man. He's just like an all time great teammate. He goes to my son's games.

Oh, wow.

Yeah. Like, and we win.

He seems like the best dude ever, dog.

Peanut is one of the best dude, best teammates I had, bro.

Did you. So you picked up that one fumble that he forced. Did you ever return a fumble? Did you ever get, like, the legs moving?

Alex Brown. Mandy, man, Alex Brown will never want to block.

Yeah.

Because if he see a ball on the, on the field, it hits, you know what I'm saying? So he. While he's still trying to get the. I already got it. Alex, go block. Like, he. Like, every one you see me get, Alex didn't get a block.

So we, we love watching when big men pick up a ball when they get to run a little bit and it looks kind of goofy sometimes if you're one of the bigger guys, and then you realize how fast those big guys are running and they're running faster than anybody that you're watching the game with the speed. Like, what was your 40 time? Was it like around 5 seconds?

My best 40 was a four, nine, seven.

See, that's crazy. It's absurd to think that a big man can run that fast.

I know. It's like watching. Have you ever seen a rhinoceros run?

I have, dude.

It's crazy. Like, I've seen it, like, up close and personal, like, God, that rhino is rolling. But I guess that's just like, like how we look when we run. Yeah, we'd be moving.

Yeah, moving.

It's crazy how fast that Sean Rogers.

Used to get, like, interceptions when he's with the lions. And he would, he got a couple of touchdowns on his belt, but he used to be moving.

Yeah.

Was there ever a guy that, that you just absolutely had his number, like an offensive lineman, that you were like, I am going to feast today.

Not an offensive lineman, but every time I play Donovan McNally, I would get a sack.

Okay?

At least it seemed like it. So even if, like, he was with Washington at the time, I was like, I got a sack. I was like, oh, shoot, man. It must be something about McNabb. So we play somebody, and McNabb's a quarterback. I was like, hey, I might have a shot.

Yeah. Was there. So you were one of the first NFL players to, like, embrace YouTube and embrace, like, taking, you know, your media into your own hands. And at that point, I think a lot of coaches had no idea what players were doing when it came to, like, promoting themselves via their own channels. Did you? Were your coaches, like, completely cool with it all the time? Like, spice is going to make another video?

No, because when I did that, at the time, I was. I was a free agent, you know, so I was, like, at the point where I was about to retire, I didn't know that. But, you know, it had got to the point where I had got released in February, and I respect lovey and everybody for that because they called me, and, like, the defensive coordinator called me, defensive line coach, the linebacker coach, the DB coach. Like, everybody called me. That's too many calls, but sometimes they don't call you at all. Yeah, I know some people who found out on a ESPN bottom ticker that they got released or whatever.

So I remember when Lovey got fired, Jay was on waddle and Sylvie, and he found out, literally, like, sitting in studio, he's like, I gotta go.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? And so I respect them for the fact that, you know, they hit me up or whatever. But once I retired, well, in February, when I got released, you go through March. That's when everybody's getting their free agents and stuff like that. And then you go through April, May, nothing, June, nothing. So now you get into camp, and now it's like, hey, I can't get to nobody's camp, man. I'm calling around, calling different coaches or whatever, and I'm just like, dang dog. Like, I'm trying to get my 10th year, you know, I got goals like I want to play to. You know, I got 15 seasons, and it's just not like nothing is. Nobody is biting like nothing. And so then you get to the point where, all right, you had camp, now you got to wait to see if somebody gets hurt, and then they'll call you in with it. But in the meantime, like, you got to stay in shape, so you got to lift weights, you got to keep running and stuff like that. You got to make sure you don't get yourself injured, you know, because sometimes you'll go into, like, let's just say the Baltimore Ravens, they call you in they want you to work out.

Like, you got to run a 40.

Yeah.

You got to do 225. You got to do, like, all these agility drills. I'm like, dog, throw on nine years worth of take, right?

It's right there. You know what you got, dude?

You got me going up against this 24 year old that you gonna get league minimum, and now you got me. If I'm in year, I'm going into year ten. So the minimum you can pay me is a million. So you pay me a million, and you pay this. This guy that's 24 year old. You pay him $200,000 at the time, whatever the minimum was at that time. And so you're gonna take the 24 year old every time. Why am I coming here running forties and doing all of this stuff? So at that point, I was just like, I'm about to stop chasing this dream. And so, around, like, October, November, I was just like. I just started making the videos, and I started getting with guys like Chris Harris, one of my teammates, who was just like. He was on Twitter and social media, like, real heavy. So I made this video stuff. NFL free agents say, this is what I was going through at the time, and I let him see it. I was like, dog, should I post this? He's like, yeah, man. You know, we see this all the time in a locker room, but nobody else really get a chance to see how funny you are.

Whatever.

So I put it out, and then it got, you know, a couple hundred thousand views, and I was like, I might be on to something. So then I just started making a YouTube videos. Then I made the retirement video, and it just. It went crazy.

Yeah. I mean, your videos are so funny. Whenever you do the old guys and you put on the suit.

Oh, put it.

Put in the headphones.

Everybody got an uncle.

Like, when you put in the. The. The bluetooth headphone, it's like Superman getting into the phone booth. You just know it. Whatever you're gonna put out there is gonna be amazing. Do you ever do that without video where you just do it just like, hey, I'm just gonna live a day as this guy?

Oh, yeah. You know, I remember one time I took my wife to target, and I had, like, this hair dye, like, on my face and everything. And, you know, I was pushing the shopping cart and stuff like that, and I was going down the aisle that has all the weight equipment. So I'm in there doing curls. I'm like, hey, how you doing, little mama? So, yeah, I get it. Like, we at the grocery store, I got on a full blue powder dumb and dumber suit, and I'm in there like, hey, make sure you get the croutons for the salad. It's just me. Like, sometimes I come home, I be in a yellow suit or something like that, and the kids be like, oh, dad is shooting a video. It's just Wednesday.

I would wear that yellow suit out to, like, a park and just stand behind trees and then wait for somebody to just look at you like, yeah, it's me. He caught me.

It's great.

My element.

What's perfect picture.

So I don't. I don't know that I've ever seen the actual video. So I have no contacts from what the. The entire video was. So, yeah, when you're rubbing your hands behind a tree, what was happening in the video at that moment?

Oh, so that's a whole nother deal. So we were taking family pictures, actually, and we had a professional photographer, everything. So I got, like, the. You know how it is. I got the jeans with the nice cardigan sweater and, you know, you taking pictures with your legs and all that. But we in this park or whatever. And so I get an idea. I'm like, let me go to the minivan real quick. I was like, I got, like, a yellow suit in there. Let me go in there. So I go to where we parked at. I go get in the minivan. You can see the minivan, like, moving like this because I'm changing the clothes in there. And so I come out with the yellow suit on, and my wife is like, oh. Oh, my gosh. Like, what are you doing now? Like, we are paying money for these pictures. So I'm like, just. Just take the pictures.

Whatever.

Like, it'll be cool. And I was like, I think it'd be cool if I come around a tree like this. Like, I'm looking at you, and, you know, she just take the picture, and so she just starts snapping away or whatever. And then I just posted online, you know, just being funny, whatever, and it just. It went crazy.

It's the perfect picture.

It went crazy. I've been all in the Australia doing commercials for that. Like, it's crazy. That's company called Super Loop. I'm out in Australia in my yellow suit. Like, that's what I'm saying.

Like, the fact you played in the NFL for nine years, and then the yellow suit behind a tree picture is like, yo, yeah, that's him.

Yeah. And you're just crazy.

You're also the guy that stinks to shooting basketballs, right? Yeah. That one is an art form making just a yemenite clip with no sound that's like a second and a half long. That will make you laugh every time you see it.

That's. That's where we linked up.

Yeah.

Minnesota.

Yeah.

Yeah. And that. That literally is like, anytime anyone has a bad shooting night, that is auto cat. Here comes spice.

I was 412. 412, big boy.

Yeah.

Like, that was. That was said. You look good. Wild time, man. But it's. It's hard to be that badde. I gotta, like, really work at it to, like, be that bad, dude. Like, it's just unnatural. Like, cuz you know, when I. That's all I did was play basketball coming up, man, and I was a big dude, but I could still do everything the little dude is doing, man. But it's bad. Like, it's hard to be that bad.

Not just be that bad, but to be bad in such a funny way that are the most comedic miss shots.

Yes.

Right?

Yeah, it's just like, they would normally go in, like, that's the vibe I'm giving where I'm, like, clapping my hands, man. Like, there's something going on with my goggles, you know? But it's. It's fun, dude. I did the. The all star game, star game, celebrity all star game as cream biggums. And it was fun, man. It's fun. Like, doing the social media is taking me, like, all across the world.

Yeah. The funniest part about cream bigums is you. You are trying intentionally be bad. But the way you move anyone who played, you know, professional sports, they move different than normal human beings. Like, they just are smoother. So you're. You're moving like a guy. It's like that guy played somewhere, but then you missed a shot. You're like, wait, maybe he didn't because you could see it. You could just see how athletes move. They just move in a silky smooth way.

Dude, the whole thing came about. Like, I wasn't even gonna post it. Like, I was doing these crazy moves in my garage and never think. It was like July at the time, June. And it was just like, hot. And I didn't have a tripod, nothing. I just put my phone on top of the ladder and I was like, I'm just do all of these moves and it just stayed in my phone. And then one day we were in somewhere. My son was in the Junior Olympics or something like that. And we were off at Ball State and I was falling asleep and the. The warriors were playing Cleveland at the time, and I was like, as I was falling asleep, I was like, imma just post this video, dude. Like, this is so stupid. Like, I'm a post it and I'm a slap NBA finals on it. So I posted it. I fall asleep, and then I wake up to my phone going crazy. Like, it was notifications from, like, all my friends and everything. Like, yo, Kevin Hart just posted your video. So I'm like, man, chill out, Brad. Like, this man is a full blown comedian.

Like a rock star actor. Like, he didn't post my video. Maybe he commented on my page, but he didn't post it on his page.

Yeah.

So I go to his page and it's on there, and I'm like, oh, shoot. And it's got, like, he just posted, like, 30 minutes ago. They got, like, 500,000 views on it. I'm like, God, dog. So they. When he posted, snoop Dogg posted, then Jamie Foxx posted, then Ludacris posed. I'm like, God, darling crazy.

That's amazing.

So I had to create an account for cream bigums. He got, like 300,000 followers. And he was on NBA live 19.

Yeah.

Like, he was rated 89. Like, one higher than magic Johnson. He's dunkin on people. They. Dude, I flew out to Canada, to vancouver. They put all the. They put me in the.

That big old green suit with the bubbles on it.

Some out there doing moves and all this stuff, and they put it in the game.

That's amazing. That's amazing. All right, I got a couple last questions. We started with it, but we're not freaking out about Caleb Williams.

No, no, it's fine. I think even some of the passes that he missed, you can see, like, they're. They almost there, you know? I mean, like, whereas sometimes you see people throwing skippers or they throwing passes that have no shot, it's like his art. Like, they're in the area, and a lot of them come from him leaving the pocket.

Right.

He's kind of wicked when he leaves out the pocket. Like, so, you know, that's in his eyes.

The. The big thing is he got sacked seven times. He got hit, like, another, whatever, five, six, seven times. His eyes stayed downfield. Like, it wasn't, you know, hopefully it stays that way. But, like, he's got the confidence still and he got the fuck beat out of him, bruh.

The offensive line need to look at this film, bro, and correct it. And.

Is that coaching or is it. Is it something that can be fixed? Because it did feel like, yes, maybe they aren't the most talented group. But it also is like, it feels like they're not blocking as a team, too.

Maybe they need to fix it scheme wise. Yeah, because I think that's, that's, that's who we have.

Yeah.

Right now, like, the backups probably can't do any better than that, you know, I mean, so you got to find ways where you can protect those guys, you know, I mean, whether that's three step drops or that that's quick passing or something like that. Yeah. Like, where's, like, sprint outs or bootlegs or something. Like, get him on a move. Run more screens or something. Run more draws. Like, put Herbert and Swift out there at the same time. Like, create some type of mismatches. Like, just get creative, man, so that you can, you know, hi. Where you're weak at.

Yeah.

How bad did that suck as a defensive lineman, when you got caught on the screen, you're like, thinking, oh, my God, I got a free run at the quarterback. I'm gonna get a sack. Oh, shit. Now I have to run all the way back downfield.

Not many times. Because when you're in a position like me and you can't afford to make mistakes like that, because they'll just replace you. So, and then I know for a fact if you're not blocking me, like, I'm automatically radically looking like. So that was never, like, one of my weaknesses. If I was, like, a three technique, like, you may could get me on a trap or something like that, but a screen that, where is everyone? My bread and butter? Like, I'm not saying, like, I was like, that guy when it came to, like, people running screens, but I, you couldn't really. There's no way you're not gonna block me. It's something up, right?

There's that one moment when usually it's like a defensive end, and they take those two steps, and then they realize what's happening, and you can see the look on their face, like, oh, no, this is too easy.

You'll never get peppers. You'll never get Julius and Rod. Marinelli had us so tight that by the snap of the ball, I already know what you're doing, or I already know what you're going to try to do. I know from the depth of your step. I know from the double team. I know if it's a true double team or if it's just one where you're trying to get up to the linebacker. Rod Marinelli is the guru when it comes to defensive line play, and once I got under his tutelage, it was like he, he basically put three years on to my career.

That's cool.

For sure.

You never played for Tom Sully. Did you know he's our guy?

That was after.

Yeah.

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I'm impressed.

Bad memory. But the NFC championship, first of all, do you hype in everyone up is an all time clip. It is.

It is.

Everyone up? I will actually. It's. I just want to say, I don't think the defense gets enough credit in that game with Jay getting hurt and the Packers. I remember so vividly, the packers go down the field. I think you remember. I know, but. All right, so I'm giving you credit here. This is going, this is going back to credit. Packers go down the field in the first drive, and I was like, oh, fucked. Yeah, this is a problem.

Yeah.

You guys locked it up the rest of the day.

Yeah.

Because I know that they had a short field and scored another touchdown. And then the BJ roger, pick six. But you guys were lights out after that first drive, and it's like, obviously the game became about Jay getting hurt and Todd Collins and Kilbati, but you.

Guys were, say, Ty Collins.

You guys were playing lights out. I mean, the second half didn't. They didn't score.

I looked myself in a mirror the night before, and I was like, don't you be the guy to say I was one game away from the Super bowl. Don't be that guy. And here I am, man.

I just wanted to give you credit. It was that was that you guys.

First two drives, they scored?

Yes, they were.

And then that was it. Offensively, I was like, this is this.

They're going to score a million points today. This is.

There's just put up 45, I think, on Atlanta.

Yeah.

And that's how we got home field advantage.

Yeah.

But it was, it was one play where lack had got a pick, where I felt like, dude, I gave everything I had, dog, if I would have just got one hand on Aaron Rogers to, like, block him, he probably wouldn't have tackled that. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, we, we had a stunt, me and Tommy Harris, and I got to the point where I took my guy and I just drove him back, and I just. I had no more legs. And so after, like, we. We took Rogers out of the pocket, and I'm just. I'm. At this point, I'm running so fast and so hard, like, I'm falling on my face now. Like, I just gave everything I got, and the only thing that I had left was just this arm swipe right here at Rogers. But if I had a little bit more balance and strength, I could at least just, like, push them where that would have took his angle off of tripping up lack on that interception. And that's the thing that I think about the most.

Shit. Well, sorry for bringing it. I wanted to give you credit, because I think that game gets lost in everyone's brain where it's like, dude, oh, it's.

We took a bad power off, man. They scored 14 points on us, man. And that was it. That wins you the game.

And it was so cold that day.

If you can hold an offense, a high power, power offense to only 14 points, you should win that game.

Did you like playing the cold?

Oh, I love playing. I don't get tired in the cold.

No sleeves.

Oh, yeah. Like a big dog.

None at all, period. Yeah, you just throw the vaseline on you, clogged the pores up. Let's go. The coldest game I played in it was a January 3 night game we played against Green Bay. It was so cold, if you drunk water and you spit it out, it would turn the icicles before it hit the ground. That was by far, one of the coast. I've never went, like, the. The bench was heated, so you go and sit on the bench. Like, when they had, like, a tv timeout, then you'll come back out. And then they had, like, the Gatorade bottles was filled with, like, chicken noodle soup.

I love that.

Yeah, the bone broth.

Yeah. You think that big old Gatorade thing is awful of Gatorade, this chicken noodle soup?

Do they have the oxygen on the sidelines for you?

I need it then. Like, I need it when it's hot. Yeah, but I don't need the oxygen when it's cold out there, man. I'm like a. Like a real live bear. Like, for real. Like, that's just. I'm in my element then, man. Then at that time, I was, like, 310 pounds, 305 pounds. I'm like, let's go. I was a little wider back then, too.

Yeah. All right, well, Spice, you're the Mandev will definitely come back anytime. I love having you on. So, yeah, it was way too long since the last time. That must have been like, what, 20 18.

20 17. 20 18.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

You do look like you could still play.

Yeah, man. That's what I'm going for, man. I told everybody, man. Ryan pose. Everybody say, man, I can give you 20 plays, bro. Not in a row. Yeah, but I can give you 20. Give me some goal lines, some, like, third and one. When you know they gonna run, I get out there, man, mix it up.

How fast did you get hurt?

Who? I don't know, man. I would like to find out. Let me find out for myself.

Yeah, I mean, they do like the Yankees do, like old timers day. Why don't the Bears?

Yeah, man. I'm not practicing. Just put me out in the games, and then we'll see, like, warm ups and see how I do.

Yeah.

See if you could say TD, man.

Yeah.

Game time decision every week.

All right. Well, well, thanks so much, Spice. Appreciate it.

Yes, sir. Anytime, baby.

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Welcome back to another Fyre fest of the week, brought to you by our friends at Morgan and Morgan. You know what really sucks? Having to look at hank making faces at us all podcast. You know else what, Hank? This really sucks right now. You just did a face. This really sucks. Everyone can agree this really sucks. You know, it doesn't have suck is calling Morgan Morgan if you're injured, because they can help get you what you deserve. If you are injured, that sucks too. But just know what doesn't suck is calling Morgan. Morgan, they will get you what you deserve. While they can't help having to stare at Hank on the couch all episode, they can help fight to get you full and fair compensation when you're injured. Their fee is free, unless they win. For more information, go to forthepeople.com PMT or dial pound law 529 from your cell phone.

Okay, let's wrap up the show. Ah, firefest of the week, Henry.

Nothing too crazy.

Good.

I'm happy I've relapsed, though.

Oh, no.

On Game of Thrones.

Oh, you've gone back.

I feel like a lot of people are doing that now. There's been enough time.

Yeah, I think. I think it was house of Dragon ended, and I just started watching Game of Thrones. I saw a TikTok edit, and now my TikTok is just Game of Thrones, and I'm just. I'm deep.

Is it better the second time through?

Um, it's good, but it's getting to, like, season five, season six, where things get sad or things get bad, and then it's gonna get sad.

Yeah, it's getting sad, and then it's gonna get bad.

Yeah.

Are you gonna watch the final season?

Yeah, probably will.

Did you watch red wedding?

Yep.

That was crazy.

That was crazy.

Nuts. Yeah, that's it. That's. That's not bad.

Your fyre fest is. You're watching a show that you.

I guess the Fyre fest would be. We're in, like, the greatest sports time of the year, and hanks gonna watch a show you already watched.

Well, it's not like I'm watching it over sports.

Yeah, exactly. It's not right. It's not like you don't have two tvs. You watch Game of Thrones and. And sports.

I can't wait for October baseball, max on the stream.

Same.

I'm so excited. We gotta all bet on the Phillies.

I gotta. I gotta my padres that shitting on.

Me yesterday, you know, whatever. I got dunked on my max, but all I could think of was just the Phillies.

Yeah, the Phil's.

Yeah, that's my fault. That.

Well, good.

I might do talking about it now, but that's good.

Go ahead, do your far fest.

The playoff baseball is coming and I can't handle it.

Winter's coming meme.

I've been thinking about it. I've been thinking about it week.

That's a good tie in.

All right, I'm gonna look right now. You what? I mean, Max, this is your best. Can we get the overalls back?

I got it.

I.

Look, they sent me a new pair.

Yeah, pair of overalls.

They look so sick.

Yeah, I love that Dave is in on it too.

I don't love that.

All right, I'm looking it up right now.

What's the worst case scenario? First round loss or World Series loss?

First round law.

You think so? You'd be so much more upset if it's the World Series again. Yeah.

What if it's.

What if the Yankees.

I just. Yeah, that's.

That's my only fear, is that it's Yankees, Phillies. Because I actually will have to root for the Phillies.

That would be awesome.

But then.

Hey, could you imagine you and I on the same squad?

Yeah.

Then Dave would get so mad at you if the Yankees beat the Phillies.

Yeah, we can't. We can't. We can't have that app. Like, we can't.

That's where you gotta be.

The Orioles.

It's not gonna be the Yankees. Right? Well, did we just have a draft pick come in? What was that? Memes. What was that?

My bad. When I downloaded all the apps to my phone, I just get a thousand notifications from every app.

And your notification is. The draft pick is. Yeah. That's kind of cool.

Yeah, that's a football guy.

That's very cool. Yeah. Max, I'm very excited for the Phillies. I'm very excited for just to watch it all. Alright, I'm doing this right now. So if you did. Phillies to win the World Series, Eagles to win the Super bowl, and Villanova to win the national championship, and you put a $100 on it, you'd win $799,000. Title town.

I like that.

Title town.

Villanova is going to be horrible this year. Although I think they might beat Maryland in football this weekend.

What's just eagles and birds eagle.

Well, eagles and birds would just be eleven to one because that's the same team.

What?

Yeah, I mean, eagles and Phil.

Sorry.

Eagles and Phil's would be 100 to win 7000. I'm gonna. You know what? Let's do. All right, so Villanova's out.

Sixers.

They're gonna be showback.

Sixers, sixers. Sixers. 76 ers. Title town. Max. Title town, 76 ers could win it all.

They could. Sixers are gonna be good this year.

Really good.

Hanks gonna be fucking rooting up a storm for Yaabu.

Okay, so this might be it if you do. Sixers, Eagles, Phillies. A $1,000 wins, 684,000. Title town.

I like that. Max. Have a little faith in your boys.

Have some faith in the boys.

Siri's gonna figure this thing out.

We should actually just bet it for all of them to make it to the finals.

Who's the best coach you got? Who's the best coach in Philly right now?

Jay Wright.

Yeah, would be Jay. Probably topper. Rob Thompson.

Yeah.

I like Nick nurse, too. Honestly.

Yeah.

Sirianni's probably third in that.

Well, he's not even the coach.

I don't.

Jalen hurts.

Is the fires coach?

Big doms a coach.

All right. Pft, your fire fests.

All right, so my fire fest of the week has been going on all week. I don't know if it's the fact that I moved into my house like a year and a half ago or what it is, but my smoke detectors have been beeping at me all week.

Gotta change the batteries.

I agree. Here's where the real fire fest comes.

Hardwired. Are they hardwired?

You don't have a screwdriver?

You don't know what a battery is?

They're too tall for me.

I'll come and do. I'll do it. I have.

I have a step stool.

I'll come over and it's, you know.

Like, it's a normal step stool where I can probably get up, I don't know, like 9ft. It's got two levels on it. I don't have a ladder. And so every time I get this beeping sound, I have. I bring the step stool over there every time just to get on my tippy toes. And I can touch. I can touch the thing and I'm, like trying to turn it and unscrew it so I can put the battery in and it's just at the tip of my fingers where it's enough to make me think I can do it. If I get up high and if I put on my tallest pair of.

Shoes, like a dictionary or something, you can stand on top of the step stool.

But. So that's what I've started to do. So I have changed two of them already. And then the third one started beeping on me this morning. The previous two, one, I had to pull a desk over to stand on the desk. The desk isn't that sturdy, so I felt like that was bad. The second one, I went down to the kitchen. I have a bar height chair. I brought the kitchen chair up because it's a little bit taller. And I was able to do the second one, but again, I almost fell over on that one. And then today the last one started beeping. And I'm not sure. I don't feel confident in my game on either the desk or the step stool. So I have to figure out one way to make myself taller without.

I think what you need to do is find, like, Danny Lance. He's tall. Someone who. Someone who's in the office. I need it, but won't be like, oh, I had this person come over.

I need to invite a man over to my house. A man won't tell anybody.

Correct.

I came over.

Correct.

Are there any services like that online? If I just Google.

Yeah, tall men.

Yeah, tall men. To come over to my house must be very discreet.

So you got a problem?

That's what I'm looking.

Reach it.

I need somebody to. Your pipes clogged to help me unscrew this thing.

That's.

I need a man with big hands.

Sucks. I could do it for you.

No, it's okay.

I think I won't do the second part. Not talk about it.

I think I'll just let it beep.

Okay.

I think that's probably the. My plan.

You gotta wait till, like. Yeah, just wait till you have a party and then have someone just do it.

Who's at the party like, oh, shit, this just went off.

Oh, that's funny. Yeah, okay. Yeah, help me real quick.

I might have. I might have people over on Saturday to watch some college football.

Yeah, hype party.

And just bring white boy Rick over.

Yeah.

And it's just him. So I got that. My other fire fest is. So we are playing. Pup punk is playing tonight. Buford's on West 6th street in Austin, which is gonna be a great time. I'm very excited about it. It's a free show. If you want to come out, out. It's gonna be a blast. Come party with us afterwards. But we're playing free bird, and it's the song I've been trying to learn for the last, what, four years? I said I was gonna do it, and now it's nut cutting time, and I don't know if I'm ready, but I think I might be ready.

You got it.

But you got it. It's so hard.

You got it.

It's so hard.

You got this, free bird.

It's freebird Friday.

You got it. That'll be awesome.

Freebird's making a comeback.

Yeah, it is. I saw the recorder guy.

The guy playing on the recorder. There was a girl playing on the bagpipes last week.

Fucking love it.

Free bird. Maybe it never went away. It was inside of us.

No, I always play free bird. All right. My fyre fest, I need similar to Max's sleeping thing. I need Awl's help. So I've been trying. We've been talking about getting healthy for our 40th birthday.

We are.

I am. I've been lifting, like, three, four times a week, but I don't have enough time in the day, so I've been trying to wake up early. I have started by setting a mental alarm clock.

You already wake up early?

Well, yeah, I do, but this is, like, earlier than early, so my real alarm clock is set every morning for 650. My mental alarm clock I set for 06:00 a.m. i've been setting my mental alarm clock for a month. This week was the first time I actually didn't hit the mental snooze and went and worked out at 06:00 a.m. it completely wrecked me. I've been so tired since. How do people do it? How do you get up? I just want to. I have all. I have a gym in my house, so it's like, I just have to go downstairs. I. There's. Everything's there. It's as easy as possible. I don't have to leave my house. I just need to get up and get out of my bed at 06:00 a.m. and that gives me 50 minutes to work out before I got to take the kids to school. How do you do it?

What do you mean by mental alarm clock?

I don't want to wake up my wife, so I set a mental alarm clock. So my eyes. I I'm pretty good at, like, setting a mental alarm clock. I will wake up at 06:00 pretty much every morning, but I then hit the mental snooze.

Do check your fan app still.

I have a fan of. I do the OG real thing I.

Was gonna say, if you have. I use the fan app, and if you just have that, you can set an alarm on that so it turns off.

But I don't want to wake up my wife, so I have to. The mental alarm is me just literally opening my eyes. Every night I go to bed, I'm like, open your eyes at 06:00, and I do it.

No, so I do it pretty much.

I probably do it, like, six out of seven times a week. It's just then getting up after my mental alarm goes off.

So what do you do after your mental alarm goes off?

No, I hit the mental snooze.

So you just go back to sleep?

Yeah.

Okay. Well, it's not.

It's a mental.

If it's the mental.

Like, if you need to put your.

Brain on the phones, you keep absolutely the phone.

Right?

Forget it.

Well, the.

But, Hank, the phone is not. The whole point is I have to be able to wake up without anything going off, because then I can sneak out of the room and not wake anyone else. Right.

But if your mental alarm, you wake up, and then you want to check your phone, you still have to get up to go check it.

But I know when my mental alarm goes off. I know it's 06:00, and I just go right back to sleep.

Can I give you a tip? Start chugging water before you go to sleep, because that way, when you wake up in the morning and your mental alarm goes off, you'll have to wake up, get out of bed, go piss, and then you'll already get the blood moving. You'll get piss moving. Your body's awake.

Yeah, maybe that's a good idea.

Yeah, I think you need to chug a shitload of water right at bedtime.

Don't understand how people do it, how people wake up early and work out.

I should do it four days a week. 535, 30 lifts. I can't believe that was once, like, a daily. Like, a routine in my life.

I used to do that before work too, when I had a real job. And you get in this. This zone where you just wake up up at 536 o'clock every day.

Yeah. I never got used to it. I hated it every single time.

Yeah. And I can't. Yeah. Like, it's. There's nights when we're here till, like, one in the morning, so it just kind of fucks everything else.

You take any pre workout?

I don't.

Okay.

So what you could do is just.

Is have, like, a shot of pre workout right next to my bed.

Yeah. What you do is you set the alarm. You set your. Your mental alarm for 530, and then you wake up at 530, take the shot of the pre workout, hit the mental snooze, and then as you're hitting the mental snooze, hit the mental re. Wake up at 06:00.

Yeah.

You'll open your eyes at six, ready to go.

It's not a bad idea.

Yeah.

Everyone. Everyone who talks about getting up early, like, you just got to get through the first couple of days and it becomes routine. No, there's no way that. That. There's no way that, like, there could be someone who wakes up at 530 in the morning, go work out every day, and it's done it for a year. There's still no way that it's fun. No.

Well, I think some people are just there. There are people who can do that and there are people. Yeah.

Well, also there are people who just go to bed at like 08:00. Like, you guys have friends. I have a friend who goes to sleep, like 830.

I don't trust.

I don't trust in that.

If you go to sleep before.

I agree, but it's insane. He does it and it's just like, what, I guess. Sure.

830 or nine. If you. If you work at a certain type of job, like if you're a teacher, sometimes you have to wake up super early.

Don't just get less.

That's what I do. I have to get up at 650 every morning. I still don't go to sleep.

I also fixed the dog problem.

You killed it.

Say that. No, I. Hank reminded me just. I just got a sound machine and I just haven't woken up since.

That's the easiest. What about the snoring problem?

Also kind of fix that. How I got. I went. The mouth tape was a problem before because I couldn't.

Because you ate a it?

No, well, I wasn't eating it.

But you did eat it once.

No, I never ate it. But I got the. The breathing strips and the mouth tape because the breathing strips help me breathe through the nose while I'm sleeping so much.

Look like Hannibal Lecter.

Yeah, you. You. When you get ready to go to bed, it's like, is he going to play a football game or is he going to go to bed? Exactly.

No.

Yes. That is the thing. Yesterday I woke up and there was also like a. There was almost like a bruise on my nose from the. From the strip.

It's probably because you were trying to eat it.

I don't know.

That's you're trying to eat your nose.

How would I get. How would I even do that?

Your body do rate. You create. You eat in the middle of your sleep.

Your body's rejecting this. The breathe right strip. That's what it sounds like to me.

You just want me to continue. You just want me to continue to have these problems.

No, I want you to continue to diet with us.

I'm dieting.

Oh, so you're gonna do. Maybe that's. Do you think that's what's helped the.

The one we. I mean, I also had a cheat meal last night.

You get balls.

Those meatballs. You have cheap meals. Calories in, calories out. That's all day.

Otherwise.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But then I had, like, whatever.

All right. You're fine.

Yeah.

Okay. Good show, boys. Numbers.

911.

372. 99. Pug.

He's back. Eight.

Memes in. Pft. Have you ever gotten this?

Not gonna. I don't think eight's in there.

93. 93.

Nines are hot.

All right, see everyone Sunday.

Love you guys.

Sadeena.