Transcript of NFL Week 4 Picks and Preview, TNF Needs More Flags + Paul Bissonnette and Ryan Whitney In Studio

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Yeah. At the very end of the game, it was like back to. Almost back to back plays where Michael Parsons out. And then you had. You had neighbors going out. Yeah, that was bad.

It was neighbors breaking ankles out there.

It was. He played an awesome game. He's still very good. I think he's got a concussion. That's what they say. I don't know what's wrong with Parsons, but the flags were bad. The flags made this game unwatchable. And credit to Al Michaels, he gets a lot of shit for if he doesn't celebrate a touchdown hard enough. But when Al Michaels is at his best, now is when he's annoyed with the quality of football.

Yes.

And he was so annoyed, he gets into surly old man mode. Very early on in the first half, he was just like, this is awful. This is terrible. Kirk. Get me out of here. And I agreed with him. It was. It was terrible. We had an awful taunting flag on CD. Lamb for pointing at a defender as he ran to the end zone. Then I think he threw the ball kind of in his direction, like, underhand after he scored. And the thought occurred to me for the first time when I saw that it's actually worse. It's. It's more emasculating for a defender to have a referee step in and throw a flag and be like, hey, stop making fun of that guy. Go throw a flag at you. That's worse than a guy pointing at you as you go into the end zone. I'd agree it draws way more attention to it.

Yeah.

And then it's like oh, you need this little, this little referee with his tiny little flag to throw it in the air and blow his whiskey.

The ref is taunting more than cd lamb in this situation.

Exactly.

Yes.

Let the boys taunt.

Yes, I agree. Always let the boys talk. But it dawned on me that, you know, we go through the week one, Thursday night opener, football. So, so happy football is back. Week two. Oh, Thursday night, this is fun. And then you get to three or four and like, oh, yeah, I forgot. Thursday night Football. We're going to watch it. We're going to. We're going to consume it every Thursday because it's the official start of the weekend. Sorry, Hank, but it is. It's the start of the weekend in the fall. But for the most part, it's going to be shitty product. And you just hope a bunch of guys don't get injured, which happened tonight. We also had Michael Parsons giving digs and massage on the, on the field, like, instantly. I love that.

Great teammate Diggs went down and then Micah over there started rubbing his foot. We know that Mike is a foot guy. That's on the record. And then he moved up to the calf, started giving a nice little massage. If I were Diggs, I would. Would you prefer to wait for that doctor with a cowboy hat to get out there to give you the massage? Or are you okay with my condominium?

I think you want it right away if you're cramping. Which I assume that's what was happening. Yeah, that would be really bad if it was like an achilles and he was doing that or like a real injury, and he was like, I got this.

It's a partial tear. And then Micah gets out there with his strong ass hands and just shreds it.

I just assumed it was a cramp, which. That is a bro move.

Yeah, but you're right.

Let me. Let me get this cramp out real quick.

You're right. The Thursday night Football, it reminds me of that old Donald Trump tweet about Coca Cola, and he's talking about Diet Coke and he's. He says, the Coca Cola company is not happy with me. That's okay. I'll keep drinking that garbage. Yeah, that's. That's how I feel about Thursday football.

I'm going to watch it no matter what. We also had. So we're going to get to our picks and preview in a second. Last A's game in Oakland, which was awesome. Fuck John Fisher. It was cool to see the stadium completely packed. They won, which I'm happy for, even though we've lost a lot of money betting on the A's this year.

A lot.

A lot. I think we're down, like, 15 units.

I think it's around 16 right now. And that's bad. But it's even worse knowing that we almost picked the White Sox.

Yeah. Yeah.

How much money we would have made. It was down to those two teams.

We just went door door two instead of door one.

And I didn't want to piss off Chicago. I liked Chicago. I know. That's it. And then I talked to White Sox Davey. He's like, I don't know. I think they've got some real competitive players out there. And then I'm like, okay, I guess I won't do it to Chicago. We would have made so much money.

And White Sox fans would have been happy. I know Jerry Reinzorf is a piece of shit.

We fucked up.

But, yeah, it was really cool to see that scene. It was a pack stadium. Their uniforms are a top baseball uniform. They had a bunch of old legends out. Barry Zito sang the national anthem, which was cool. So again, fuck John Fisher forever. Oakland deserved better.

Yeah.

We stand with the A's, and I.

Also stand with the fan who I think was last night, tried to steal one of the seats from the Coliseum. Yeah, he stole an actual seat and then ran down the street with it. And then I think a security called the cops. Yeah, I'm chased down. Let him steal the seat.

I guess there's a unaffiliated team maybe playing there next year, the Oakland Roots, because I saw someone stole a seat in the Oakland. Oh, it's a soccer team. The Oakland roots tweeted. And we're like, hey, just a heads up. We're playing there next year. If you could keep some of those seats, we'd really appreciate it.

Keep some of them, but let the boys have some fun. Steal a seat. That's always good. And then you know what? I hope they do next year. I hope. You know how they used to have the. The Raiders play at the Coliseum?

Yeah.

I hope that the soccer field still has the baseball field.

That would be awesome.

Yeah, that on there.

Yeah. So we feel for the city. Oakland. Then we also had golf. Hank, no one's actually mad about Scotty Shefford yelling at Tom Kim. Right? That was awesome.

Yeah, that was awesome.

People.

Some people were mad that Tom Kim. I think the next hole, they had a birdie putt. And before Scotty Sheffield putted, Tom Kim and his partner just walked off.

Oh, that's good, dude. These international tournaments should have nothing but bad blood. It should always be, like, close to fight, which would not be a fight because they're golfers. Who are we winning?

Dominating five. We are 50 sweep. Clean sweep.

How Max do?

One.

Love it.

Yeah.

Everyone won.

How did Scotty do?

One.

Who lost?

No internationals.

Oh, it's 50550. Yeah. Fuck you, world. We're up 5050.

So is it over?

Pretty much.

I love that.

What a domination.

I love more than anything. I love it when the United States dominates tournaments that we don't give a fuck about.

Yeah.

And the rest of the world cares deeply.

What about Cantley and Schofley?

One.

Okay. What about Morikawa and Tagawa?

One.

What about Brian Harmon and Max Homa?

These are tomorrow's pairings, I think.

Shit.

But we're gonna win that.

Yeah, we're gonna win that. How many.

How many wins do we have to get to win?

I think it's like 13 and a half. If it's like the Ryder.

What about Henley and Scheffler?

We haven't lost Hildar tomorrow.

No, that's today.

One.

What about Bradley and Clark?

One.

What about Katelyn? Sam Burns?

One.

Fuck, yeah. We want them all. Just check and make sure Max didn't play today. So, to correct Hank.

Well, he was a member of Team USA.

He won. Oh.

But.

Okay.

He really won five.

He won, everybody.

What, so Max is playing tomorrow?

Yes. Yes.

Okay. And he's going to win.

Oh, he better win. Max, first to 15 and a half points, wins the. The President's cup. So, yeah, we're going to. We could win this whole thing. No, we can't win it all tomorrow. But we're gonna. We'd be up ten nothing, and then every day. And then Saturday is singles, Sunday singles.

So we can't win it on Saturday. We can be at 15.

We really don't know the layout of this tournament. What is.

It was the summer. I feel a lot more locked in.

Yeah, you're always locked in.

Why weren't you locked in on the golf today?

I was busy.

Hank was locked in on golf today?

Well, no, the golf.

Yeah.

All right. Anything else before we get to pick some preview?

I mean, I just want to clarify. Hank played well today, but we still beat him. Oh, yeah. He still lost.

What? Pft and his partner.

Yeah. Ebo.

No, say it.

Pft and my partner.

Pft.

One.

There you go. There you go. By the way, quick note, we're gonna do our pixel preview in a second. And then we have biz and wit on the show this week. They're doing surviving barstool at the office. The interview is gonna be our first ever black and white interview. So if you're watching, it is art and I, we wanted to make sure that no one had a chance to be like, oh, this is spoiler. This is spoiler. So enjoy it. It will probably never do a black and white interview ever again.

Well, I don't know. This shit might get us nominated for some cool, prestigious award. Look really cool. Yeah, it is mad men.

It is really cool. And watch all the way through for the surprise at the end.

Oh, yeah.

There was a great special guest also.

I forgot to bring this up. We were talking about Thursday night football. Big cat. I don't know if you caught this. I don't know if you're at a tv with sound on in the first half. Maybe it was the start of the second half. But Al Michaels told us a story about Mike McCarthy that I had never heard before.

Okay, you know what?

Mike McCarthy's first job was a mechanic. He was a toll booth operator.

Perfect.

He just. And I think the face stuck on him. That's. I think. I think he's just got resting toll booth face now.

That's perfect.

Just sitting there for hours.

Yeah.

Just pissed off at the world.

He's the perfect demeanor for a toll booth operator. No offense. Tollbooth operators. Do they. Yeah, there are.

Yeah, there are. There's usually one per plaza.

Yeah.

In case you get stuck in one and the arm doesn't go up, they come.

Yeah, they probably do.

You think so?

Yeah, I think.

I mean, it was back when I was in like high school or younger when minimum wage wasn't as high. But I remember, like, minimum wage was $8 and they were like, tobeuth operators make like $18 an hour.

That's pretty good, Toby.

Whoa. Here we go. Yeah. 1585, isn't it?

It says now between 30, 112, 50 and 25.

$25 an hour shout out. I bet you there's some toll booth operators listening to the show. Yeah. What's up?

And you can skim over. So it's probably the easiest job to just pocket a little money at, right?

Yeah. Little falls through the cracks.

Yeah.

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You just talked about Dan Campbell a second ago that that reminded me of his postgame thing where he was saying their head coach screwed up.

Yeah.

You know how he like dissociated? Yeah, he like split himself up. I actually was thinking the other day. That's going to be good for the Lions because now head coach Dan Campbell is going to be thinking about postgame Dan Campbell.

Yep.

And he's not going to want to let postgame Dan Campbell down.

Yeah, you can.

Almost like he's coaching himself up and he's an accountability guy, so he's like, I love Dan Campbell so much as a coach. I can't screw up during the game.

He's coaching like a version of his. It's like his son, but it's him. And it's his best friend, but it's also him.

Kind of like an avatar.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't want to. By the way, did you see there was an update to the Dan Campbell having to sell his house? So it was. It's kind of a fucked up story. His daughter's classmate posted his address after they lost the 49 ers NFC championship game and said like, fuck you for going for it.

That's messed up.

Messed up how messed up? High school, I think. And then. And then, like, the real issue was that Dan Campbell and his wife were still in San Francisco and people started showing up to their house when his, like, his daughter was still, was home that night after the loss and, like, honking and stuff.

So we need to get those, you know, those. Is it the Hells Angels, the motorcycle gangs that show up whenever the Westboro Baptist church is protesting? David Wells, the Angels.

Yeah.

Have the people with the giant angel wings standing outside Dan Campbell's house protect that thing.

I like that. I like that. But yeah, it's fucked up dickhead move.

That's what happens when you don't have a full picture of the history of the lions when you're a high school student.

Yeah.

And all you've known for the last couple years is optimism.

Yeah.

And success. You don't want to go back.

Also, what happened when you don't understand analytics. True, because, like, some of those were analytic play. And also, Dan Campbell, like, he was going off vibes. That's you. Actually, that guy didn't know ball cuz he probably didn't watch the Lions all season.

Also, Josh Reynolds should have made that catch.

That's also true. Okay. Week four it is. I still do treat week four as the end of the first quarter, even though we have 17 games, 18 weeks now. I don't know why. Just will never get out of my head.

Me too. But I think it's because I grew up listening to Joe Gibbs. You grew up listening to love Smith. And those were two big guys that were into splitting the season up.

First quarter. Yeah.

Four quarters.

Yeah. So week four, I can't believe we're already here.

Week four, I feel like this is the week where after week four, we have a big enough sample size to know, like, what's a fluke and what's not.

Also after week four, there's buys.

Oh, shit. Yeah.

So that's always like fucked up. Like, oh, shit, we're in bye weeks. So just before we get to each game, this is Hank. You have been doing your hungry dogs for a few years now. It's been dominating this year. So underdogs of seven plus points to start the season. Or four and o straight up the first time. Dogs of seven plus or above 500 straight up through three weeks since 1956. Yeah.

So if you look at the first three weeks, the biggest underdog of the week has won. Has won. The Patriots won. In week one, they were eight point underdogs. The Raiders won against the Ravens. Week two, they were nine point underdogs. And then the commanders won. In week three, there were seven and a half point underdogs. It's the first time in 70 years that's happened.

Is this just simply that we are overrating the AFC north? That is a possibility because that was Bengals. Ravens, Bengals.

That is a possibility. Or maybe we're just overrating the Bengals. Yeah, no, that can't be it. They're good. No, they're, their defense is good.

No, because the Ravens lost too. So it's, yeah, it's just an overrate. We, we put too much respect on the AFC. Norse Navy.

But you know what? I'm fine with that. That's, that division is football. Yeah, there's, I respect that there.

The definition of football. Yeah. And NFL under underdog is six plus points are now twelve and one against the spread through three weeks. So that's crazy.

If you're a betting man, which I think some people on this podcast are, biggest underdog this week. You know who it is? Hanks Patriots again. Oh, was it ten and a half?

Get right game ten right now.

Okay, let's get into some games. Good slate, good mix. Saints and Falcons to start. Excited for this game. I do think I like the Falcons in this game. I'll give you two reasons why I like the Falcons this game. One, I think the Falcons played like that game against the Chiefs. They were very, very close to winning. And it felt like, it felt like whatever happened at the end of the Eagles game, maybe the Falcons found a little bit of something. And I think the Saints are banged up and are coming back down to earth. So they're, they have centers out and Cesar Ruiz, their right guard, is out. And I just, I like the Falcons. I like the Falcons.

So the Falcons also have, I believe, two linemen that are at this game and we did a bad job at the end of the Chiefs Falcons game hand up. We were recording as the game was ending, which is always, it's tough for us because we're trying to actually talk about the other games while keeping an eye on the Sunday night game and for all the shit that we talked about. Chiefs Derangement syndrome after week one when Bengals fans were doing the screenshots of the still frame of the pass interference, that was actually pass interference. The Falcons had a completely legitimate gripe against the Chiefs at the end of Sunday ball for that pass interference in the correct. You got fucked on that. So I just wanted to make sure that we said that out loud. That's not. But that's how they get you with the Chiefs Derangement syndrome. The teams that complain too much about the, they cry wolf about the other calls and then when it really happens, sometimes it slides under the radar.

Yep.

You had every right to complain about that.

If you fan and also complain about your stretch run on fourth down.

Yes. Also complain about that. Now, part of that is that Kirk is definitely limited with his mobility right now, of course. So they can kind of, they know that he's not going to keep it, he's not going to bootleg out. He's going to stay relatively stationary. But that's kind of, that's usually when Kirk Cousins is at his best. Doesn't have to move too much.

I just like them in this game because I think the Saints are going to struggle with the offensive line issues and the Falcons offensively, have you seen, it's like the tired, Wired. TiReD is Bijon Robinson making incredible cuts and juke moves. WIReD is Bijon Robinson just blowing up people in the blocking game. He's such a good blocker, dude.

I love running back pass protection.

It's awesome.

There's nothing better than seeing a running back just lay out a lineman because.

They'Re always, because they're, they're always underdogs by nature.

Yeah.

That setting, the guy who they're going to block is going to be bigger than them every single time. And he had a couple. There was one in the Eagles game where he blew someone up. I think he had one in the Falcons game. So, yeah, Bijean maybe blocker of the year.

I love. Should he get a vote for block of the year.

All pro at Lyman. Yeah.

Yeah, they should. They should give a vote or they should give a Pro bowl position to just a blocking back just for third down.

Yeah. So that's my new Bijon Robinson. I love watching Bijean Robinson. I've added just watching him block people as well.

So this is also kind of a revenge game for the Falcons because if you remember last year, the way that the Saints Falcons game ended.

Yeah.

That was when the Falcons were getting beaten pretty badly.

I'd like to forget every Desmond Ritter.

Game, but go ahead and Jamis Winston did the handoff at the end, the victory formation handoff. That was for the vibes, which Jamis was being a good teammate and trying to get his boy touchdown, but the Falcons were pissed off about that.

I does. I don't think that is a revenge game just because that was a Jamis going rogue and he's not on the Saints anymore.

I think they can use it. Yeah, I think they can use it. I think Raheem Morris might dial it up at least one time in film session this week. Like, look what they think about you.

But they might like, I would imagine if you asked if you tried to get a kirk, if you try to get Kirk Cousins to buy in on the revenge factor, he'd be like, no, Jamis is a, you know, he's a God fearing man just like me.

He stands up in front of him, hey, guys, let's turn the other cheek.

Yeah, right. Exactly. He's not a revenge type of guy.

Yeah, but maybe the defenses.

Maybe the defense is. Yes, that's true. I also think just the way that Jamis has been a star and so funny, you can never stay mad at him. He's.

Yeah, of course not.

You never stay mad at him.

Of course not.

You just can't. Okay, next up, big game. Huge game. Vikings at Packers. Jordan love might be back. Yeah, I believe he's going to be back. I'm playing. I'm intending on him being back.

I think he's going to be back. He practiced. There were rumors that he was, like, doing walkthroughs and shit last week. He was actually practicing this week. I think he's going to be back. So I, as much as I would love one more opportunity to bet against Malik Willis, it's been very financially productive for me. Yeah, I don't think I'm going to get that this week. Now I am. I think I'm 100% in on the Vikings.

Okay, that's funny because I have the exact opposite thought.

I think I'm in on them. I don't think what they're doing is a fluke. I think that their defense is really confused and I think that Sam Darnold, I don't know if Sam Donald's like a great starting quarterback at large in the NFL, but in this offense, with this head coach, I think he's really, really good. I don't think that there's anything fluky about it. I think for whatever reason, it fits him. And I think I'm in on the Vikings this year.

So I'm not saying I'm not everything you said I somewhat agree with, like, it's not flukey in the fact that I think they're a good team. I just think this is like their absolute sell high spot. Let's everyone's like, the Vikings are for real advice. For real. I'm feeling like this is a spot where Sam Darnold's going to lay an egg and everyone's going to get off the scent. And again, I think they'll still be good. So I'm not going to say if Sam Donald comes out and plays bad, I'm like, oh, Vikings, back to earth. They stink.

It sounds like I'm just going to.

Say I expected he'll throw in a clunker once in a while. That might happen this week. And that's actually where the Vikings want to be because they want everyone off the set.

It sounds like you're being a little bit.

Anti semit.

You're being anti samite. I am pro samite.

Okay.

I don't know what I've seen from him is really good. And also it's like strength for strength in this game. So the packers have a really good run game and the Vikings, I think, have the best run defense. And they've gone up against some pretty good running teams, too.

Well, the packers have also have a good run game because they had to run. That's really Quillis. So I don't. If Jordan loves back, I think the packers are gonna win this game and I might even take it if they're not back. I just, I. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Vikings keep just rolling, but I feel like this is one of these three and, oh, teams is gonna have to lose this.

It's a get right. Get right. Weak for, for the favorites.

I think you think it might be.

See, I'm also.

Everyone's like all the underdogs, underdogs. Underdogs.

Right.

I've also not had a correct read on the packers all season?

Yeah, I think so.

Keep that in the back of your head.

I like the packers in this game. I just, again, I think the Vikings are probably a playoff team, but they do better work when everyone doesn't take them fully, fully for serious, serious. So if they win this game, like, it's a visualization game. They win this game, they're 40. They just beat the packers. Maybe even throw in the Lions losing on Monday Night Football. And so it's now 40 and everyone else is two and two in the NFC north. You're like, holy shit, they got a two game lead. I don't know. I just don't see it.

I also got that wrong. They're the second best against the rush in the NFL, but still very good Vikings.

Yeah. I just think the packers will obviously be very different if Malik Willis is, if Jordan Love is back, they're not going to run the same way.

It would be good for your personal discourse if the Vikings happen to win. And then you could say, like, go back to Malik Willis for the past.

Are you kidding me? That's going to be all I'm going to talk about. Yeah. No, if Jordan Love plays and loses, I'm going to be a real fucking piece of shit online because it's all I got. All right, you know what? Let's talk about it. I think it's a Rams. Bears. I think the Bears are gonna win this game.

Same if I'm following my model that I just talked about.

I think it's also, it's gross. Which game?

It's a get right game.

Get rides, get right the right week. The game after the kitchen sink is.

Always tough because you don't have anything left to do anymore.

You have nothing left.

No leftovers.

So there also is a stat behind that teams coming off of for kitchen sinks.

Just like, kitchen sink is just cleaning stuff.

No, it's a phrase, though. Throw everything.

Oh, I know.

Yeah.

But, like, there's no left.

It's just, you got the garbage disposal. This is garbage disposal game.

You're throwing a bunch of, like, Windex at teams when you throw the kitchen sink at them.

So wait, when you throw the kitchen sink, are you saying, is it like, we're going to. We don't have anything left to eat, so we're gonna take everything that's the dirty stuff that's in the kitchen sink and scrape it off and that's what we're gonna have.

I think it's everything.

Just bottle the kitchen sink out of the socket and throw that.

Okay. So you have no food left.

No, the phrase is everything but the kitchen sink.

Yeah.

Yeah. So you're just leaving just the kitchen sink. You're packing up everything but the kitchen sink.

Okay, so you still do have a kitchen sink.

You have a kitchen sink to piss in.

Yeah.

You have to. You have to be somewhere.

The Rams pass defense is really, really bad.

Their entire defense is not great. They give up the most yards per play.

So I think that this could. Hank might be right about this one, I feel. Is this going to be a Caleb coming out party?

I mean, he threw for 363 yards last week. I think he's going to. I think he's already out.

You think he's out?

Yeah, he's out.

Okay. I think this. But if he goes, if he goes dummy this game, I think he's out. Then I think that's the coming out party.

Also, I said the Bears were going to win this game before Hank said the gate Bears were going to win this game. That's fact.

That's true.

But credit to Hank, he did. And if there's lose this game, I'm going to blame you.

Yeah, that's fine.

Is your boy Keenan Allen going to play this week?

I believe he is. And I also believe finally going to make the right call and have Roshan Johnson start. So little teaser, he's probably going to be my TD parlay. I think Roshan is. I mean, you could see he's run. He's run a lot harder than then DeAndre Swift. Who I don't want to say DeAndre Swift stinks because the offensive line is not great, but DeAndre Swift might fucking stink. Yes.

Again, I'm a Bears guy because what I'm about to say is I know that the clip, there was a viral clip that went out on social media that was like someone breaking down film of DeAndre Swift in slow motion running into his players and defenders. Those clips are bullshit.

Agreed.

When it's slow motion and it's like you have no time to think. Yeah, he, it's a split second decision. He went right instead of when he should have went left. And you cherry pick those and put him in slow motion, everything looks bad.

Counterpoint. That's kind of your job as running back.

Here's my.

But like if you, but I'm saying you cherry pick the bad ones and compile it together, it's gonna look worse.

Right.

Like there's a million of those every game.

Yeah. Even for good running.

Every running back doesn't get it right.

Yeah.

Film. The film community online has gotten a little away from itself where there are people I follow who I trust who will show good and bad, but there's also an entire group of film community that will, like, just highlight one play and be like, what is this team doing? This guy's guy stinks. Look at how bad they are.

I think it's because you can get paid off Twitter now and they just know. Yeah, yeah.

They'll just put up those bad clips and it's just like, okay, can you like one? We don't know what everyone's, that's the other part is with the film. I trust some people, but I also think there's a lot of people who think they're film experts and they, you don't know what everyone's assignment is on every single play. And they just kind of guessed, and then they try to highlight one bad block or one bad run.

This guy stinks with running backs to where they have the still shots of where there's a hole. Sometimes the hole is not even there by the time the running back gets correct. Just if you find a screenshot and there's open space, it's rushing disinformation is what it is.

Correct.

And so we gotta be on high alert for it.

What are you gonna say?

I was just gonna say that, like, DeAndre Swift has been a lot of eagles talk.

Oh, you want them back?

No. Oh, like, how much better the Eagles offensive line is.

Yes. Correct. Correct. That's a no brainer.

Also said, and how much better Saquon.

Parkley is then DeAndre Swift.

I like that because they were like, DeAndre Swift had these same, like, these same running lanes as Saquon Barkley is getting this year, and we're seeing the difference.

Oh, that makes me feel so much better because I saw someone posted the other day, they were like, we don't, I don't think DeAndre Swift's the best player ever, but maybe it's not all DeAndre Swift. And it was like, DeAndre Swift yards per carry was like 5.04.84. Then this year it's like 1.6. But that makes sense. He's not, he was a system running back. He had a great offensive line. So, like a nice guy. By the way, I'm not trying to bash him.

I would, I would count this as a caleb coming out party because the Bears offense is last right now in DVOA. So if he has a stat cool.

If he has a good fucking. The most yards since Brian horn 2016.

So 363 yards. And if we're going off the trend of him doubling his previous yardage, which has happened every game this year. He will have 626 yards passing. This week or more would be a record.

Love it. He's already out. I don't need nerd stats to know he's already out.

He's been out.

He's been out of. Yeah. And the Rams are still very injured, but I don't know if they win this game. There's, I guess I should start getting nervous about my pinky.

Yeah. I mean, the Rams are put together with, like, duct tape and bubblegum right now.

Yeah.

But their coach is so good and.

Their quarterback so good.

If you look at coach versus coach in this game.

Oh, yeah.

One team has a big advantage. I was thinking about this recently, about your pinky team. Remember last year when or before the year you were, like, hyping up Matt Stafford to an MVP because you could.

I did this year.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah. No, it's stupid.

Yeah.

This whole thought process of how, like, the Rams could go on a run.

Matthew Stafford, so good.

Yeah. This is gonna.

I could.

Yeah.

You just went full 180 in two weeks.

Yeah. Everyone's gonna it. Like, I'm gonna get all this credit for saying that. Matthew staff for predicting Matthew Stafford's mvp season. When I say all this credit, like, literally no one give me any credit. What did it cost? My pinky?

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the Bears defense is good enough where I think that they'll be able to take advantage of having a bunch of starters out on the Rams offense.

Yeah.

The question is, is the defense on the Rams going to be as bad because they, they're lasting yards allowed, 425 yards a game. No other team gives up more than 400 yards a game.

Yeah.

So they're last by a big margin.

That also is that game against the Cardinals where they just got torched coming out. Right. You know, the, the, we're at that weird spot where three games is the sample size. So it's, I start trusting stats, but I, you're also say if you have one bad game, then you could be the worst and everything. Yeah. All right. Steelers at colts. I have a question. This might sound crazy because I'm not the biggest Anthony Richardson fan, but is Anthony Richardson potentially better than, or can he play better than Kirk Cousins first game after an Achilles injury? Rookie or Bo Nicks and a significantly hurt Justin Herbert without Rashawn Slater and Joe alt?

I think he can.

So maybe they, he can have better success against the Steelers defense than the first three teams they played. I'm not saying the Steelers defense isn't good.

Yeah.

I have not played a gauntlet of quarterbacks.

The Steelers defense is really, really good.

It is. But. But they've also not played a gauntlet of quarterbacks. And could Anthony Richardson maybe play better than those three things I listed and win this game?

I think he could. But also, the Steelers, they have a formula and they're just going to. They're going to bleed you out on offense. They're going to run the ball. They're not going to turn the ball over, and then their defense is going to suffocate you. I feel like the Steelers, they're going to be a very. They're going to be one of those teams that people are like, how is their record so good this year? It's because they. I love the fact that they just know who they are and they don't give a fuck.

Yeah. Yeah. Big time. Big time.

Also, Justin Fields playing pretty well.

Yes, he is.

And Mike Tomlin has refused to name a starter. I think he's just going to do. We're going to ride with Justin until. Until the wheels fall off and then we'll put Russ in.

Why, why do they need. Why do they cater to Russ like this?

He hasn't done anything.

I don't understand. Like, we watched him. He was. He's not good anymore.

I think Russ kind of needs to be catered to.

Yeah. They need to bring in. They need to basically do bar rescue the Steelers if this quarter, if this becomes a quarterback controversy in any way or messes with Justin Fields confidence. They should do bar rescue Sean Payton. And he just comes in and he just shits on shot on Ross and he's like, all right, I've done my job. I'm out.

That would be fun. Also, Mike Tomlin should tell his medical staff to, like, secretly treat Russ Wilson incorrectly. Like, give him heat when he needs ice. Yeah, give him ice when he needs heat. So he's still got that nagging little injury in his calf.

I don't think you have to be secret about it. You could just tell him this is a new formula to get back on the field.

Yeah, listen, this is a. It's actually inspired by the blockchain. And so it's next level shit. So we're doing, like, crypto healing on you.

Yeah.

And just wait. It's gonna work really well. And then Russ will be like, yes. Okay. That sounds like it's preparing me for excellence.

Yes.

And then just keep Justin out.

There is this is Steelers Colts. One of those weird games I somehow remember. Maybe it's because of the playoff game in the Roethlisberger tackle or. No, it was Peyton Manning tackle of.

Sorry, no, it's been Roethlisberger tackle of Bob Sanders.

That's right. That's right.

Mike Vanderjagt missed the field goal.

Yeah, yeah, he got it. Was it, I don't think it was Bob Sanders because remember, it was the story was that the guy got stabbed the night before.

Oh, yeah, it wasn't Bob Sanders. Yeah, yeah, it was somebody else.

But I don't know why I always, like, I can just remember a lot of Steelers Colts games and they have never once played in Pittsburgh.

Well, I think was that when Harbaugh was on the Colts and they lost to the Steelers in the AFC championship game?

Maybe. But I'm saying in like the last 20 years, they've only played in Indyenne. In my mind.

Yeah.

I don't, again, this is not a real stat, but in my mind, they've only played an indie.

It's a sneaky good uniform matchup.

It is, it is. It's very good. But yeah, I feel like they play every year and they play always in Indie. Yeah, that, that might be one of those, you know how Notre Dame will play in neutral sites, but they're not neutral because they're Notre Dame. The bike all. We'll go play game in Texas. Yeah, that's kind of like the Steelers game in Indy every year.

Yeah.

Because it's a drive and Steelers fans travel. Anyway.

Yeah, we have a giveaway, too.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Okay, so what do we want to do for the Colts?

I think we go giveaway. Hold on. Let's get the, let's get the. Who got sack tackled.

Oh, if they have that jersey.

Yeah. Which is kind of sad, but he survived. No, no, I know. If they have the jersey because they lost the game.

Okay.

And that was like, if he didn't get stabbed, maybe he would have been. Okay, let's see. That was such a crazy play. Who did you just say? Who did Roth. Ben Rothsburger tackle.

No. Yeah.

Who'd been Harper.

Jerome Bettis. Fumble. Harper.

Harper.

If you have a Harper Colts jersey, let us know and we will give you two free tickets to the Colts Steelers game in Indy this weekend.

It's Nick Harper.

Nick Harper.

Nick Harper.

Do we have a, do we have backup plan? If nobody has a Nick Harper? I was, I was bright Harper.

Okay, if you have a, if you have a Colts price, Harper jersey.

Yep.

Go to the game.

And I tell you what, if we don't get any people that have the Nick Harper or Bryce Harper Colts jersey by, like, I don't know, you want to say 02:00 p.m. yeah. If there's a Steelers, a cold custom.

Or good custom Ben Roflisberger jersey.

Yeah.

They want to travel with.

Oh, no, we don't want to give these tickets to this.

Yeah, we don't want to give them a home advantage.

Yeah, but I might get my season tickets taken away by Mister Ersa. How about we do a couple. We'll do the couple if there's a Colts and Steelers fan couple.

But Nick Harper and Bryce Harper's Colts.

Jerseys take that gets priority.

Priority. How would you even make Bryce, would you do the. Would it be a Colts jersey with like, the. The lettering style of the Phillies?

It'd be Harper 34.

Yeah, but it also the lettering, you.

Know, that he's not 35 34. What is he now? She is three. Number three. I thought you were trying to say it. Okay, continue. I thought you were doing a bit there. What? No, that, like he said.

Yeah, but was a bit.

Well, no, I only recognize him when he wore number 30, the NASCAR bit when he brought us to World Series.

Got him. Ha. Fuck you, Max. You got got, bitch.

Remember that when he left?

And that was a great.

He got the end of this postseason.

Yeah. I'm gonna bet on the Phillies. We will. Okay, next up, Broncos jets. Now, here's a question. Well, actually, not a question. The stat for you, Nathaniel Hackett, in his career is 10 in revenge games against the Broncos. Average margin of victory, 10.0.

Hmm. That's a nice neat.

That's pretty crazy, right?

That is crazy.

This is a double revenge game.

Yeah, because we got Zach, right? Zach Wilson. Well, we had.

Oh, yeah.

And Aaron Rodgers didn't get to avenge his boy.

But he said he didn't care about it.

No, he cares.

He said it's. He said that a lot of people say things they regret. And Aaron Rogers, definitely. Or not. Not they regret. What was the exact quote? I wrote it down. That's old news. We've all said things we'd like to take back.

So kind of regret is this when Zack Wilson makes Aaron Rodgers life hell? No. I think Sean Payne should make Zach Wilson a captain for this game.

Agreed.

And Sean Payne's the kind of coach that would do that. I bet you you're right. And I bet you he somehow gets.

Into the game, unlike some weird play like gadget.

Yeah, like a Philly special, Bronco special. They just try to. They just try to force him in.

Yeah.

It'd be very funny if you got into the game and tried to run a Philly special. Just got blown up.

Yeah, I didn't.

Not meme style, but, like, I defender.

I didn't love Bo Nick saying that he is excited to meet Aaron Rodgers. I guess you can say it, but that is kind of weird still. He said it's kind of surreal. Really looking forward to meeting him for the first time.

Yeah, I don't like that you're about to play him. Yeah, I don't like that at all.

And you also are. You're going up against a revenge pot again. Do I have to read this out again? Nathaniel Hack. It's 10 all time in revenge games against the Broncos. 10.0 average margin of victory.

Memes, how do you feel about Olufanu? I love him.

And Aaron Rodgers said he reminds him.

Of the British Ferguson. That's a good comparison.

Phenomenal comparison. That is a phenomenal.

Morgan Moses. He's officially out.

Yeah.

About two to four weeks.

It was a MCL spraying.

Did he go out leaning on a staff that's going, thank you to brick.

A shot to break a shot. Ferguson doesn't get enough credit for having the coolest name ever.

Agreed.

He was just an absolute stud. Yeah, he needs more credit. We need to remember how cool to Perkinshaw Ferguson's name is.

To Bricashaw is an awesome first name. So when you match it up with Ferguson, it's like Vince McMahon meme in the chair just exploding at the end. Yeah, the Ferguson sets it off.

Yeah, we have to do a review of that.

Doc Dewey.

Yeah, I'm just interested to watch it because Vince McMahon came out and said that it was all fake news before the doc came out, which means I really want to watch it now.

Yes.

Yeah, I watched the first two episodes last night. It's pretty fucking crazy.

Yeah, he's. He's done a lot of crazy, fucked up things. He's Vince McMahon.

Yeah. It's like that governor from North Carolina that was like, I don't know what's about to come out, but it's all gonna be lies. Yeah, I won't.

Yeah, I won't spoil it. But they started it. Like, the first episode was basically saying they interviewed all these. All the. The a list WWE people for a documentary. And then after doing a ton of the interviews, all of the allegations and the report in the Wall Street Journal stuff came out. So all the interviews with Vince were done before that. And then it starts with his interview being like, all right, I'll. You know I'm talking about me. I'll tell you guys the good stuff. But he's like, I should tell you the real stories, but I can't. Like, I don't want you to know the real me.

Yeah.

And I was like, uh, yeah.

The dark side of the ring. If people haven't watched that, it's phenomenal. Obviously, not every single episodes about Vince. It's about all wrestling. But I. But, yeah, wrestling is crazy, and there's crazy, fucked up stories behind it.

Can we get somebody to look up this stat? The teams that stay at the Greenbrier when they're staying on the east coast, what is their record after staying at that specific place? I think it might be one of those things that, like, Bill Parcell's taught him. Yeah, like, this is the hotel. And then he's just grown up, like, as a head coach. Always going back to the greenbrier. Got, like, a points card there.

He loves that place.

I think he's got a points card at the Greenbrier. But that's. That's where they chose to stay. Harbaugh, for some reason, chose to stay in Charlotte. He did not choose to stay at the Greenbrier. Mistake teams this year. Are Owen one staying in Charlotte?

Charlotte, yeah.

Except for the Panthers, who won a game.

No. But they didn't stay in Charlotte that day.

They didn't?

No, they were in Las Vegas.

Okay. There you go.

Yeah, no team. Yeah, no team. No teams have won in staying in Charlotte because the Panthers lost.

Okay.

Yeah, we got it. We'll fine tune that.

But I'm saying the Greenbriers specifically, I want to know what the, what the record is. If I. If there's that stat available out there.

I would like to.

I want to know if there's any magic in those hills.

I would like to as well. I know we don't do football guy of the week anymore, but Alex Singleton wins football guy of the week. Did you guys see this story? He tore his ACl against the bucks. He's a linebacker for the Broncos, then went on to have. He did it in the first quarter, went on to have ten tackles. After the game was like, hey, I'm a little sore. And they looked at it and like, yeah, dude, you got torn ACL.

Respect.

It's crazy.

Massive respect.

I'm a little sore.

It also makes me question everyone that has an ACL injury.

Phil Rivers. He played in the game.

Yeah, I think we're ACL truthers?

I think ACL is. Yeah, someone told. It's basically like when you get told as a kid, like, don't go swimming after eating tuna fish. Or like, don't do this. You know something that scares you? If you. If you make a funny face to get hit in the back, you'll be stuck in that face.

Don't take a shower during a thunderstorm. You'll get electrocuted. Don't stand too close to the microwave. It'll get cancer.

Pop rocks and soda. Yeah, those type of things. Maybe that's just all an ACL is. Like. Don't tear your ACL. You'll be out for nine months. No. How is that true? You can still play on it.

It might be a trick that football coaches give where they tell players you have a torn ACL. And if you choose to play through it, then you know that you're tough.

Yeah, yeah, maybe. Maybe an ACL isn't that bad. Also, I just wanted to say Patrick Stratan deserves a lot of credit for being a fucking stud. I know there was a couple PI calls in the Steelers game, but he has gone up against DK Metcalf. Week one.

Mike Evans, right?

Yeah. Three receptions, 29 yards. George Pickens, two receptions, 29 yards. Mike Evans, two receptions, 17 yards. Yeah, he's fucking awesome.

Very good.

And he makes everything else work. When you have a guy like that who can just eliminate someone. Okay, next up, so Garrett Wilson. Not. Not his day. We can continue the narrative of Aaron Rod. Does Aaron Rodgers hate Garrett Wilson?

I love that that happens whenever one receiver isn't playing well with Aaron Rodgers, it's because he hates. Yeah, he won't talk to him.

It's also funny because what did you think was going to happen? He got Alan Lazard on the team. He's going to throw it to him.

Bad vibes.

He likes him.

Bad vibes from Garrett Wilson.

Eagles at box. Max. Max, would you say, max, please rank the top five players on the Eagles when fully healthy?

Three of them will not be playing in this game.

Oh, you gotta ruin it. I wanted you to rank them and then we could figure out where they are. But yes, three of them will not be playing this game. How would you rank the top five players? Lane Johnson, one.

Lane Johnson. AJ. Brown.

Cooper de Jane Reed. Blanket show. Carter Jalen hurts. Devante Smith.

Okay, so three of the top five.

Yeah.

Are not playing in this game. That's a problem. That's a big problem.

Is this a get right game for Bryce Huff?

Now he sucks.

I'm done with him. We told you last week, going to the Bucks game, that the Bucks allow people to get to Baker Mayfield faster than any other quarterback gets gotten to. Like the time after snap. People are getting to Baker, and I think they sacked him seven times last week. This might be the get right game for Bryce.

Now it'll just be Jalen Carter eating again.

Okay. I hate Bryce off.

He sucks.

That's sad. That sad. That is so fast. Sorry.

Do you think you're win this game?

Honestly, it makes no sense that they're two point.

That they're two point favorites in this game.

Explain that to me.

I really can't.

That's only reason. I think that they might, because that may. That line makes zero sense.

The only thing I can think of is the Bucks just might. We might have gotten way too ahead of ourselves with the Bucks. You know, I know the win against the Lions was big, but the Bucks got dominated in that game on the stat sheet. They won the game, maybe, and then they got. Then they lost. Broncos team the Eagles are two and one. And, oh, by the way, they're dominating on the stat sheet the other way, like, they dominated the Saints. So maybe the Eagles are good.

I need to.

I need to.

I need to rewind.

I say quiet. I know. I knew you said because you know why? Because you're obsessed with Jalen Carter.

I am obsessed with jail.

Yeah, you got blinded by Jalen Carter.

That was that. Eagles fans are gonna be pissed at me. Who's.

Who's out?

I think Jalen Carter.

Nah, nah.

Devante. I'll take Jalen Carter over Devontae.

Fuck. Then no one wants to hear me say the three out of the top six.

All right, fine.

I'll take.

I'll take Jalen Carter.

Okay, now he's six.

Well, Max tried to trade away Jalen hurts on Wednesday's show.

That's true.

I would. I would take that trade.

Yes, I know. That makes me so happy. Yeah. I mean, that's just. That's just math. I've just been going through the list this week like I'm real sick. Oh. I get one sniff of victory, and I start to think to myself, who would I take a trade for patch? I'd trade him for Patrick Mahomes. I would.

I don't know if I would. Pft. I don't know if you would. Patrons kind of been bad.

I think. I think I would trade. I think I would trade Jaden Daniels for Patrick Mahomes. And the other trade that I would consider for the rights to arch Manning and every future manning throughout american history.

Get the bloodline.

So then I get like a hundred years success.

I like that a lot.

Besides that, no deal.

Get the whole bloodline. Yeah, I I think the Eagles might win because it makes no sense, but they have.

I think that they might win.

I think they might win their offense.

Para it's it's Johan Datsun, Paris Campbell, Johnny Wilson. That's your receiving room on Sunday. Bring Covey I hard towards shoulder.

Someone look up is vita va still out? That might be a way to just pound the rock, I guess.

But then you're missing your top linemen.

Your your like, but it makes no sense. So I'm gonna take.

That's exactly, exactly no sense on the road. Why are they two point favorites I with their entire offense out? I love the battle of the stupid coaching styles going at one another. So you got Todd Bowles, who is the most conservative coach in the NFL when it comes to fourth downs and going for it. And then you've got Nick Sirianni, who is just stupidly reckless sometimes with going forward.

I would just say stupid.

Stupid. Yeah, but, but his stupid Lisa stupidity is consistent, consistently inconsistent.

Vita vay returned to practice yesterday. It makes no sense.

Because he is stupidly. He does make no rhyme or reason.

Yeah.

All right. I like the Eagles. I think we talked our way through it.

I like specifically because Vegas knows something. No, because Vegas knows something.

Yeah, I it makes no sense.

Makes no sense.

The only sense I can think of is, like I said, if you look at the way the Bucks have won, like they got doubled up in yard in the yards per play, and yards is not indicative of everything. But there are certain box, like a 1512 game that you won against the Saints. If you looked at the box where you're like, oh, that was a really close game, the Eagles were able to move the ball. The Saints weren't like, that's a fact. Same with the Bucks and the Lions. The Bucks beat the Lions. If you watch that game, the Lions were able to move the ball. They just couldn't get it in the end zone, which is part of the game. But yeah, I think we take the Eagles as a team. Hank's been saying get right for the favorites. Okay, next up, Bengals, the Panthers. This is finally a do or die game.

Yeah, I would say so. I would say if the, if the Bengals lose this one, their season's cooked. Starting on four would be very, very tough, if not impossible to come back from.

Yup.

And if you look at the schedule, which is one of the easiest in the NFL in theory, for the Bengals moving forward. If you lose the game against the Panthers, then you can't count anything as a win.

I'd agree. Did you know that Andy Dalton won the FedEx Aaron ground player of the week? I think Jaden Daniels won a bunch of awards, too. But did you know that was the first time in Panthers history a player won the air, the FedEx Aaron ground player of the week.

So FedEx wasn't a sponsor when Cam Newton.

I think they were. I think the awards been around for like two decades.

So in his mvp season, he, I.

Don'T think he ever had a week where he won it.

That's strange.

Yeah. This is the first time any Panthers quarterback has earned this honor in the 22 year history of the award.

That's very strange.

Yes. No Cam Newton somehow. No Jake Delonge.

But, yeah, that's crazy. I think Andy Dalton is just still, I think he's just still good. I think he's a perfectly fine quarterback. And this is a revenge game, too.

It is a revenge game without Adam Thielen. And he got, he got the surprise factor. I think maybe this is, this is maybe the game that Bengals, they have to win one.

Yeah.

Because they have to win one.

Their offense is still very good.

Yeah. Do you know someone, I saw this online, someone was tweeting about this that they did the playoff predictors calculator thing. And there is a world where the Bengals win out 14 and three.

Mm hmm.

And miss the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah.

Because like 15. Yeah.

So we did it. It has the, it has the Steelers is 14 two and one, winning the NFC AFC north. It has the Chargers is 14 two and one. It has the Chiefs is 13 two and two.

Two ties.

It has the Jaguars at the four seed being 14 and three.

Love that.

The Texans at 14 and three, the Dolphins at 14 and three, the bills at 14 and three.

Yeah, let's, let's, I mean, that would be chaos if there's, if there's a team out there with two tires.

I love, I mean, that guy had to just sit there forever hitting just every single iteration to try to find the formula.

Listen, as a team that, that oftentimes finds himself at about four and eight after twelve games, I'm very experienced with manipulating the playoff predictor. It's, it's, you can spend a half hour on there and get any result that you want.

Would that be the craziest sports story, like, ever? If they won 14 in a row and still didn't make the playoffs.

Yeah, probably.

I'm rooting for it now.

So. Yeah. So Adam Thielen out is going to be, I think, a pretty big deal.

Yes.

Because Andy Dalton loves him. He's still good. Adam Thielen is still an effective wide receiver.

Yes.

When he has like an actual quarterback that's throwing the ball to him. So, yeah, I do like, I like the Bengals in this one. My question for, for Bengals fans out there, I think that you agree with me on this. Why is Chase Brown not getting the ball more? Why do they keep, why did they keep having Zach moss be their number one guy? Because Chase Brown is so much more dynamic.

I agree.

Than Zack mosses.

I agree.

Doesn't make any sense. I was cheering so loud to put Zach Moss back in the game when I was, when I was at the game on Monday night. Because he's, he's not bad. He's not a bad running back, but Chase Brown is so much better.

Yes, I'd agree. I agree. I don't, it doesn't make sense. Maybe this is just an off Bengals year. Cause, you know, Zach Taylor has only finished fourth or first in the AFC north.

Yeah. So this might be number four.

It just feast or famine. His first year, obviously was a before Burrow, so it was two and 14.

How sick would it be if Joe Burrow got rid of the frosted tips before this game? But he did it by dying his hair red. Oh, so we have a ginger off. Yeah, that'd be nice.

Just mock them.

Yeah.

Okay. I think this is the last early slate and we have a few late slates. Jaguars. At the Texans. The Jaguars are in trouble. We have some Doug Peterson quotes. I'll read you the first one. He said, listen, the speeches are done. The speeches are over. We don't need any more rah rah stuff. It's just time to go play football, fix the mistakes and do everything we can to play our best football this weekend. Isn't that kind of a speech? Yeah, that kind of a rah rah.

Yeah. The speeches are over. No more speeches. It's on you, man.

Yeah, no more rah rah is rah rahdhe.

Yeah.

Like we got to just play.

Yeah. It might be time for players only meeting in Jacksonville.

Yes. Well, everything is on the table. He said that's a bad sign. Also, he said that we've had great conversations before and after football games when talking about his relationship with Shad Khan. There's no way they've had great conversations after these football.

No, I'm thinking through all their losses this year, and I don't think a single one would have a positive, maybe.

The week one being like, man, we're real close to that. Dolphins.

Good first half. Yeah, good first half.

There's just no way that he's, there's no way. They're having great conversations.

So Hank was, he was all over the. Bill Belichick to Jacksonville. Did you get that from Albert Breer, by any chance?

Hank?

No, it was just you, Brain. Just you. Well, now Albert Brewer's talking about it, too.

Hey, Albert Brewer got it from Hank.

Got it from Hank.

Come on.

So, Albert, please credit your sources.

Please.

But I'm starting to think that there might be some truth to it. It would look weird, don't get me wrong, that that might be the one uniform that I think Bill Belichick would look the weirdest wearing in terms of those colors, the, the jaguar head on his polo shirt. I don't, I can't visualize it. But then again, I think when we talked about the weirdest uniforms Tom Brady could wear, I think the Bucks were right up there at the top.

Yeah.

Like, I can't picture it. So Hank might, you might be on.

To something, and I think that's what you want to root for, Hank.

Cowboys would be the best.

Yeah, cowboys. But if you're just for the.

Just for the takes. It's bigger in Dallas.

Yeah. Outside of the Cowboys, though, like, you don't, it's going to be weird for you to see Belichick coaching another team. Just like it was weird for Tom Brady. And like PFT said, you almost want it to be the most random. Doesn't feel almost real if he's the Jaguars head coach.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think anywhere not in the AFC east is fine, though.

What about the Giants?

Yeah, that could be open.

I could see him and, and he loves the, he loves the marrows.

I could see him.

Got a couple rings there.

I know he's never put on a giant before, but I could see it.

I could have, I could visualize new photoshop.

I'm visualizing it. It feels a little grainy to me. Yeah, he looks good.

He looks younger, skinny.

Yeah.

Good skinny. I hate that.

So I'm rooting for that.

Just, just because that I blindsided you with that one.

Yeah.

Which shouldn't be too much there. Yeah. Also, here's another Doug Peterson quote. The confidence is high. Again, no chance. There's no way the confidence is high with the Jaguars right now.

What's the best team they've ever assembled.

I do feel that we have to just focus in on us internally as keep and keep things nice and tight. So they're doing the nice and tight. You know, we got the guys in this locker room. Eliminate the mistakes that are happening and try to play your best football.

Didn't the Jaguars beat the Texans in Houston last year? I know they beat him one time.

Yeah, I feel like that was one of those ones where the Jaguars kind of own the Texans for a while.

Because the Jaguars, they were very, very good at the beginning of last year.

Yes, that's right. Yeah. I like, I like the Texans in this game because I, part of me wants to try to figure out he. How can I. How can I time the Jaguars correctly? Figure this out? I think maybe I can't. And they just stink.

I might try to time the Jaguars on this.

Okay, go for it.

I might try.

Yes.

Is it seven points?

It is seven, I believe.

Yes, I might try.

Good luck. Good luck, buddy.

I might. This is a bad, bad idea, but I think I'm gonna do it.

Okay. Time theme.

I'm gonna time time them.

Is this the week? You don't wait this week? You could say. You could. You could say you're gonna time. No, this is the way to time this.

No, this is the week once. I'm not gonna delay my timing of them. What? This is the week. It's a divisional matchup. And guess what? They pay these guys on the Jaguars to play for facts. That's f. Guys are professional football players.

I just looked over. Memes was doing like a meathead. Nod like, nice squat, bro. He's just going like this.

Yeah, memes knows. Memes knows. Listen, no more time for Rob Ross speeches. Time for speeches is over. Jack Wallace, your head coach isn't going talk to you anymore. Okay? It's on you guys. Men. You want to be men, go out there and prove it. Yeah, prove to me that you're men, boys, because I'm not going to say anything. Boys and women, and we're not going.

To do rah rahs. No rah rahs and no speeches.

Let's go out there and get them.

Yeah. Stay tight. It's all the guys in this locker room, but we're not doing speeches.

Yes. I love that.

Yeah. I think the Texas win this game, but we're gonna talk. You know what? I'll time with you. Let's time it.

I'm not saying the Jaguars are gonna win.

No cover.

I'm giving a speech to them. To cover.

Yeah, let's time it.

No, let's go out there and cover.

There's no time better than today to time the Jaguars.

Mm hmm.

Because they don't play today, so we couldn't actually lose today.

That's true.

Um, Patriots 49 ers.

This is like a, they're gonna check into the game one time.

And that was Patriots 49. Watching.

If you're watching red zone here, watching the primetime 04:00 fox game or CB's, whatever it is, they'll cut to this game maybe once, maybe twice. It'll probably be gross. Get right game for the favorites.

Yeah.

Not a lot of confidence.

So I have an interesting nugget here that we can talk about. You want to hear a nugget?

Yeah.

All right. So stop me if you've heard this before, but Kyle Shannon had a lead, and then he refused to run the ball and he passed too much and then lost the game. That happened last week. The Patriots are not, I wouldn't say that. They're a, an aggressive, pass happy offense. They're not built to. To blow you out by taking shots downfield. Would that be fair to say, Hank?

Yep.

They some, for some reason, did that last week, especially at the start. They threw the ball a fuck ton. I feel like this is a double correction game.

Oh.

Where Shanahan, fresh off his. Oh, shit. I did the Super bowl thing again, is gonna pound the rock, and the Patriots are also gonna pound the rocket. It's gonna be a rock off, which.

Yeah. Like, adds up to my point being it's gonna be like a 13 to three game.

Mm hmm.

You think it's 13 to three game? I.

16 to three.

Yeah.

Who $4, huh?

I think 4 hours might score a little bit more than that. Patriots defense looks slow.

I mean, follow the trend. Biggest underdog.

True.

Believe in you get right to it. For who?

The favorites.

It could be a get right for the patriots.

Yeah. You've got conflicting get rights going on.

No, I've been steadfast.

Do you think we see Drake may?

I think it's a. I think it's a. I hope nothing.

Yeah.

Even in the, in the one drive that he played, he got crushed.

Yeah.

When do you want to see Drake May?

When we have an offensive line that can block for him.

So not until next year and maybe the year after.

Yeah, next year.

Are you saying shut Drake may down for the season?

Not shut him down, but I would not get, like, I get more scared than excited if he goes in, I guess.

Fair.

Yeah.

Again, what's the best. What's the best case scenario if he plays?

Well, even if you. Well, if you went out, you could guarantee. Guarantee yourself a playoff spot because you already have that one win. So by the math that we just went through, you could clinch, if you will. If you want out, you control your own destiny.

Yeah, you could.

Yeah, I guess that. I don't. I don't see it that way in theory.

Right?

Super. Who goes through Fox brothers here? I don't. I don't know if the 49 ers are not good because they're hurt or maybe this is just the year from hell for them, or maybe. I don't know.

So, Christian McCaffrey, it was reported earlier this week he took a little trip to Germany to see a doctor. To me. To me, that crazy. That doesn't sound like there's a whole lot of reason for optimism when he's going to Europe to see a doctor.

Did you hear Ryan Whitney say that he heard a rumor that he might retire?

Really?

Yeah.

That seems great.

Whitney also, he's gonna be on in a minute here, but, like, he. Stick to hockey, buddy. You do the rumor boys. Rocky, he actually admitted in the interview that's coming up that they just fuck around a lot with rumors.

Yeah. So that's what.

That's a crazy room.

It's a crazy rumor. Definitely not crazy.

You can't say that stuff in a podcast.

You can't.

Crazy if it was true.

It's crazy if it was true. Crazy.

Where did he hear it from?

I don't know. He said someone from Barcelona, but I don't know. I didn't ask him who it was.

I mean, these walls, if they could talk, they'd be like, christian, Catherine might retire.

Well, so, Whitney, he was. It's so crazy.

He was right.

He was out on the golf course earlier this week. Whitney was?

Yeah.

Do you think he heard it on the golf course from somebody who knows?

Who knows?

So, yeah. McCaffrey is in Germany seeing a doctor for experimental reasons.

Hobie did this?

Yeah, well, german doctors experimenting experiments doesn't always turn out so good.

No.

If he was gonna retire, do you think it's a situation where he goes to Germany and the german guy tells him he has to retire, and that's what. That's what cues it off?

I think the jury. I think you go to Germany is the last stop. Right?

But they do go to Germany, and.

They'Re like, we don't got any of that.

Yeah, well, the German told me to quit, so I quit. Imagine if FDR felt that way. Hank.

Mm hmm. I don't know. It's weird.

Hank would be crazy.

Again with. Yeah. Wits. If we see Christian McCaffrey this year, Whitney, you're. It's despicable what you did. And if Christopher Caffrey does, in fact, retire, we should get to find out who the source is and give that person credit.

So what would the reason be for, for going to Germany? Is he getting a treatment done that's not, that's not legal in the United States?

Speaker one. I think they just have, they do a lot of, like, stem cell stuff. I think I. Kobe did it with his knees.

Yeah.

So they probably just have, I don't know. You get another opinion.

Okay.

You get bored of getting second opinions. Just down the street, you're like, I. Let's go to Germany. Might. Might help.

What is it? Like? It's like turkey for hair plugs. Like, there's just. Yeah, the german doctors can do that. American doctors can't.

Germany. Yeah.

Well, some american doctors are very, very good at doing hair plugs hack. That's true. Really good.

But, okay, so cheaper.

But that wouldn't make sense for McCaffrey. Like, like, people go to turkey for hair plugs because they don't want to pay the premium that Americans cost.

It's a bunch of, like, collegiate athletes flying back on german airways, and they've all got their knees wrapped up.

Yeah.

Like, what? But Chris McCaffrey doesn't.

I'm finding it out for you right now. All right, so it's, there's a german doctor in that does a, it's referred to as regenerative, also known as orthokin. According to WebDMD, it is a type of regenerative medicine that uses your own blood to treat your joint pain. This serum is made from your blood. It's treated in such a way that it produces anti inflammatory protein called il one receptor antagonist. This protein may change your body's inflammatory response, improve any damage to your cartilage. So it sounds like it's a procedure that we don't do in the states, people who have done it or Kobe Bryant, Peyton Manning, Tiger Woods, Trace McGrady, and Freddy couples. That's funny. That boom, boom went and did it.

Yeah. Freddy couples. Yeah. That's pretty cool.

Yeah. So it's probably. Yeah, so I probably doesn't happen here. And it. What I remember when Kobe did it, like, his knees bounced back for another year or two.

I do think that there's something to having a doctor with an accent tell you something that makes it sound more official.

Yes.

Like, if I hear a foreign, especially like a european accent from a doctor.

Yeah. You feel like you're in Rocky fort.

I'm like, that guy knows what he's doing to.

Yeah. All right. That was our Patriots 49 ers preview.

Whatever happened to just going to see doctor James Andrews?

He doesn't do this.

A good, solid american achilles.

He doesn't do this kind of stuff. Brown's raiders. I like the raiders just because of the business decisions that were talked about.

Yeah, but is he overreacting?

No, I saw some of the tape. I.

Swell. I saw one cornerback that looked like he was completely checked out during one play.

I saw a few, but you don't check out on Antonio Pierce team.

That's right. But I just feel like he's, he might be doing the, the hard ass first year head coach thing. Like he might be overcorrecting where he's saying he might also bench Gardner Minshew.

I mean, they lost to a team that hadn't had a lead in the fourth quarter for 20 games.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that was pretty embarrassing. You have to fix things for sure. But I get the feeling like Antonio Pierce is doing, it's the classic hard nose, first year head coach thing where he's like, I'm going to fix everything immediately.

So you like the Browns?

Get the bums out? No, I don't like the Browns, but in this game, I think I might. I don't like them at all.

Yeah, I saw DeSean Watson, his media day. Now he, his answer that I'm about to read. Technically, he's right. I just fucking. He's so. He's the worst. I don't. I feel bad for Browns fans at this point. Sean Watson was asked about more designed runs in the offense, and he responded that he is not a running back. I'm not going in there to ask them for more designed runs. If I don't have to run, I'm not going to run. I'm not trying to take any of hit any hits. I'm not a running quarterback. In a sense, I can make things happen, but I'm not trying to run. I'm not a running back. It's not my specialty. They sign me to throw the ball, make decisions to be a quarterback, not a runner, bro, you. I mean, you're. You're just a jerk.

Yeah.

Like, I'm open to everything. We got to win as a team.

Like, I don't blame them for not actively going into the coach's office and being like, hey, let me run the ball more.

Right.

I don't think any quarterback would necessarily want to do that.

The sentiment is not wrong. The way he delivers it. He's just a dick.

Yeah, he's a dickhead.

He's a dickhead.

Yeah. And he's, he's just like, I don't want to run the ball. I'm a passer. I don't want to run the ball. I'm not going to ask to run the ball more.

They pay me to be quarterback.

Getting hit hurts. I feel my body hurts. When people, when big men hit me.

Just say, it will do whatever to win the team. And then he went on to say, if I. If I get. If I run and get hurt, it's a lose lose for Kevin Stefanski because people will blame him for getting me hurt. It's like, actually, it's probably a win win because people be like, thank you for getting him hurt. And now we can go to the.

Playoffs with our backup quarterback, James Winston. Yeah, but it's a. It's not good if he gets hit and he gets hurt and then he has to go see therapist Rob, that's. Maybe he's just protecting people. He's. He's protecting people from himself.

True, true. Either way. Yeah. I kind of. I'm buying in on Antonio Pierce. Right, right. Rilen up the team.

I think so. They're the worst running team in football right now. The Raiders are.

Yeah. Samir White and Alexander Madison just can't get it going.

And if I know Antonio Pierce, the way to, to address having the worst running team in football is to run the ball more.

Yeah.

We just need to assert ourselves in the run game. Lean on is what he's going to say, which some coaches would say if we're bad at running the football, let's play to our strengths. Antonio Pierce, I think he takes it as a personal affront to his physicality as a head coach.

Right.

He's like, we're the worst. We're not going to be the worst after this week, so we're just going to run the ball down your throat as much as we can. Also, I do think that the Raiders defensive line is going to. They're going to eat. Yeah, they're going to eat because the Browns offensive line has a lot of reasons on it, and I think Wyatt Teller is on IR.

Yeah.

So that's. Things are getting worse for the Browns offensive line.

Very banged up. Speaking of banged up, Miles Garrett has an Achilles foot and thigh. We all do.

But he. His are hurt.

Yeah. Achilles, foot and thigh.

That's like the bone is connected to the. This bone.

Yeah.

It's just creeping its way up.

That's just a lot of injuries right there.

Achilles, foot, thigh, his knees. Okay.

Don't hog them all.

Yeah. His shins fine. A lot of his hamstrings. Okay.

A lot of injuries. All right. Last two games, chiefs of Chargers Patrick Holmes has not been very good.

Some would say that he has been good.

Okay.

He won a Super bowl.

Yeah.

And they haven't lost.

That's true. But some may say he hasn't been playing very well. Actually, Patrick Mahomes said that. He said, I haven't been. I haven't played very well this year.

He hasn't played up to his own standard for himself.

I have a fun SAP for you. In the last eight regular season games, Patrick Mahomes is. Eleven touchdowns, nine interception is thrown for 300 plus yards just one time.

Hmm.

Which made me believe that there's a chance Patrick Mahomes might just have the most fuck you career of all time. To everyone who watches football and win like ten Super Bowls and just play average football every regular season, and he can just clutch up whenever he wants and he's like, fuck you guys. Like, I'll just do this every January.

Yeah. So additional info about that stretch where they've had. You said last eight regular season games.

Yeah.

They are five and three.

Yeah.

No, I play not bad.

No, I know. He, his, his defense has been playing great. He just has not been playing. He's not playing MVP Patrick Mahomes. He did in the playoffs. He's not. He admitted himself.

Yeah. Also, those long pass interference calls, he doesn't get yardage stats for those.

Yeah.

So just a heads up. This is going to be interesting because Joe all probably not going to speaker zero.

He's out and so is Rashaun Slater.

They're both dealing with something, as Harbaugh would say.

And the Chargers have a buy next week. And if they start Justin Herbert, that's just like the biggest mistake ever.

I don't think Herbert's going to start. I don't because his ankle is not going to get better.

I don't either. But I also, when Justin Herbert comes in the locker room and he's like, coach, I want to go Taylor Heinecke, though. Taylor Heinecke.

Yeah.

Do you think Patrick Holmes been playing well in the regular season?

I think he's still, like, statistically, no.

I think he's looked off this year thus far.

He said it himself, but I think he's, he's still been playing, like, pretty good quarterback.

Yeah. He's not been patch speaker three.

He's not doing like the. Wow. Holy shit. This guy is just stepping on our throats from start to finish. He's making plays when he has to. He's been clutch.

Yeah. I'm not, again, taking out playoffs because obviously that was a totally different run.

Yeah.

And this is just how he, maybe this is just how he does it. I just noticed it. And if Chiefs fans get mad at me, you get mad at your own quarterback. Because he said himself, I haven't played very well. Yeah, we are said, I haven't played it very well. And that's not even a stats thing.

He's been, he's been not up to Patrick Mahomes standard, for sure. He hasn't looked like the crazy. Holy shit. Patrick Mahomes in the regular season. But again, we, we do this every year where we're like, Patrick Mahomes looks off. The Chiefs offense looks pretty.

Yeah, of course.

And then, and then next thing you know, they just won the Super bowl.

No, they're winning the Super bowl. Yeah. That's my whole point is it's actually annoying that he can do this and get away with it.

So they got Kareem hunt back.

Okay.

So it's not gonna be the, the Carson Steele show.

Okay.

Probably splitting time, I would guess, a running back.

Yeah.

Cream hunt. When was the last time he was on the Chiefs? Is that 2018?

I'll look it up. I think it was a long time.

I think it's probably like 2018. Yeah. I think that the Chiefs are.

Yeah.

If Justin Herbert was playing, if they were healthy, I guess if they weren't the Chargers and had healthy players on offense, then I would, I would say this might be a Jim Harbaugh, welcome back to the NFL game.

Yeah.

But given what they're dealing with, I feel like it's the Chiefs.

Yeah. I'd agree with that. I'm lockstep with you there. And I, if the, if the Chargers have aspirations going to the playoffs and that kind of stuff, like there's 0% chance to play Patrick Holmes or, sorry, Justin Herbert.

Yeah.

Like you have a bye week. Yeah. Okay. Last up.

Up.

Ravens. Bills. I think kind of similar. I believe in the bills. I think the Bills are very good, but kind of similar to what I was saying about the Vikings. I think this might be the spot the, the buy hot or sell high and take the Ravens.

Yeah. Josh Allen has been. I think he's the MVP right now. Right.

I think he absolutely is the MVP through three weeks.

Yeah. I would say he's gotten off to the best start of anybody. The Ravens still feel like they're. They're very hungry.

Yeah.

Like, even though they've. They had. They got their win in, so they're not owing three. I feel like this is still a very good Ravens team. They lost by, like, half a foot to the Chiefs.

Yeah.

The Raiders comeback was just crazy at the end of that game. Yep. But the Raven, I'm not. I'm not selling the Ravens at all.

I love the Ravens. Yeah. I agree with you. John Harbaugh, he. I love this about him. He's like, feels like a real. I mean, the Harbors are just football coaches, but he, he went and, like, started coaching the offensive line. I think last week before the Cowboys game, he's been like, you know what? I'm going to show you how to do it.

I love that.

Give me this. Give me this tire iron. I'll change the tire. So that kind of move with his own football team.

Yeah, I'll do it. I'll take care of it. So the Bills are giving up 118 rushing yards per game so far in 2024, even though two of the three wins have been blowouts, so the other team doesn't have to try to run the ball at all. The Ravens, very good at running the football. Might be a tractor seat. Oh, game.

Yeah, it could be.

This tracker seat. Oh, look good. Last week.

He did. He did. This is a fun Sunday night game.

Okay, that is one more game.

Oh, yeah.

There's one more game, big cat.

Oh, yeah. Commanders, Cardinals. I'm an idiot. My bad.

That's okay.

I don't know why I have it written down.

I had a beat on this game.

This game's gonna be fun.

I had a beat on this game a month and a half ago.

Now everyone's gonna be like, you just missed that on purpose. I literally have it written down.

That's okay. I put in a bet for some reason, like, a month and a half ago on the commanders to cover. I got a bad number, though. It was plus three. Now I think it's three and a half.

Wait, the commanders? You bet the commanders plus three a month and a half ago?

Yeah.

And now it's plus three.

Net.

Why did you bet this game specifically a month and a half?

Because I just had. I had an idea about this game.

Okay?

I was like this. This feels like the commanders are going to be coming into form offensively, and the. The Cardinals, I still think that their defense is suspect.

Got it.

So I love the idea. And plus the Cliff Kingsbury factor.

Yes.

So I was like, I'm going to bet this revenge game. I'm going to bet this game.

And you somehow got a worse line.

You know, the early August. Let me look at.

Yeah, we're awesome.

I somehow got a worse line.

That's not a good sign. That's a, that's crazy.

Yeah. Well, also, you forget that the Cardinals, people didn't know that the Cardinals were going to be this feisty, but the Cardinals just looked bad on Sunday.

Yeah, they did.

Let's see. Let's see.

How is that possible?

I don't know. I don't know. I just.

Raiders offense has literally been perfect for two games straight. They had an all time performance on Monday night football. And there you still.

No, wait. I got the commanders money line, which was plus 114. What is it now for commanders moneyline?

Higher than that. You think it's to be there three point under five.

So I got a worse number on it.

That's insane.

It's bad investing.

How did that happen?

I don't know. I think it's because the Cardinals offense has looked pretty good and the commander's defense has looked very, very bad. Not look good on Sunday?

No, it didn't look bad.

It looked bad.

It looked bad on Sunday.

Short week. Nobody had any idea that it was.

Going to be a short schedule.

It is insane.

Right. That's crazy.

Like the commanders have been playing as far off the charts in the positive direction for the last two weeks as they could possibly be doing.

Right.

And yeah, the Cardinals coming off a bad performance. Listen, I'm not the, I'm not the best gambler in the world.

That's so funny. I mean, they've been perfect, the commanders. I do, I think there should be points galore in this game.

Yeah, it's good.

It should be a cited for this game.

It's, this is way hasn't punted in.

Two weeks because did not to put pressure on you. Pft. Not to put any pressure on you, but the pressure makes a lot of pressure. You are basically holding our happiness in the afternoon in your hands.

Yes.

Because patriots 49 ers could get ugly.

Yes.

Chiefs chargers could get ugly. Brown's raiders are, is gross. The commanders and Cardinals have to give us a great game.

I'm putting the. Yeah. America's the happiness of the nation on my shoulders.

Yeah. Like, I just realized that those, those are terrible games.

Yeah. Otherwise, listen, if there's one team. That's fun to watch in the NFL. It's the Washington commanders.

You have to deliver. Are you up for this challenge?

I'm up for the challenge.

All right.

Like, again, we talked about how I have to build a winning culture for myself on Wednesday's show. I think part of that is. Is taking on the responsibility of the entire nation.

Yeah.

Like, I want the pressure.

I wish.

Pressure is a privilege.

You know how you can slide the line when you're betting? I wish I could slide the money line and just take a worse line and get in your hole.

Yeah, take. Take an awkward line right into my hole.

Just give back money. Like, no, I'm good. It's 145. I'm gonna take 114 with my boy.

I think. Listen, I am. I'm obviously very confident. Some may say a little too confident in the commander, some. A overreact to one game, because I've had nothing but absolute horseshit in my life for all those people.

Be losers.

They'd be losers and they'd be haters. I am. I'm very confident in our offense, our defense. I'm still very realistic about. I think that our defense, we're not the worst in the NFL anymore, but we're definitely in that conversation for the worst in the NFL. And I think that if Dan Quinn can do anything in his first year, if he can make us to be, like, the 25th ranked defense or the 22nd ranked defense in the NFL, I think that would be a big win because we just don't have the dudes. We got rid of two of our pass rushers last year. We've got Emmanuel Forbes coming back, which you could. Some would argue that's a negative, that he's coming back.

Yes, I would. I would argue that.

Yeah. Although he might. He might get a little mojo going if he gets to tackle Kyler. Cause I think Kyler might weigh less than him.

True.

So that's good. But our defense is bad.

He's gonna. He's gonna. He's gonna think he's big and strong.

Yeah.

Our man. I'm so strong right now.

Our defense is bad, and I don't think that that's gonna change too much. It might change a little bit. That's what I'm hoping for over the course of the season.

But we're gonna have fun.

But we're going to have fun. I am concerned about Austin Eckler being out because he's been awesome. And one thing that he's been really good at, we've been waiting for, you know, like, Cortor Patterson.

Yeah.

Really? He was really good at returning kickoffs.

Right.

In the new kickoff system, Austin Eckler has been the best at returning kickoff.

Yeah.

He's been. For some reason, he knows how to return the new dynamic kickoff.

Right.

Which, by the way, is a great name for it.

Agree.

Because even if nothing happens, it's called the dynamic kickoff.

Right.

It sounds cool. Austin Eckler has been the best in the NFL at that. He's been very consistent. Him being out with a concussion is going to be. I think he's going to be felt not only in offense, but special teams can be a big factor, too.

I like. I like you guys in this game. And I like this game.

Yeah. I'm just.

America weights.

Sorry for injecting the Jaden Daniels quarterback conversation into a different game. I've just been. My, my brain this week has been 95% thinking about Jaden Daniels.

I got. I'm actually. That's low.

I've forgotten. Yeah, it's probably.

That's too low.

I've probably forgotten about so much other stuff this week just because my brain is just going. Jaden.

Yeah.

Jaden. Jaden. I see that with MB to, like, when he first started playing. Don't say that.

Yeah. What?

That's crazy.

Yeah. He could.

You would. MVP. Right?

You would love a. Yeah.

Scumbag player that injures people's knees whenever he gets a chance. What.

If you were to tell me that, that Jaden would have the career of Joel Embiid so he'd win an MVP? He would never get to a conference. Never get to a conference championship game story is not over.

Switch countries to get a gold medal.

Yeah.

Front run.

I don't think I'd take it. I'm not gonna make that trade. I think you would. I can do better. I think you would.

You can do better.

I can do better.

You can definitely.

Like I said, he's. We're gonna win a Super bowl in.

The next five player in the league, even though he's injured every single season.

Yeah. Oh, also, don't forget ducking your main competitor.

That's true.

Your rival all the time.

Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't want that. Wouldn't want the meniscus. That's not true. He doesn't do that.

Does he have any meniscus?

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I lost last week.

I also lost.

Oh, Max is back in. So you, me, pft, and Max. Okay, I'm gonna go. Roshan. Roshan Johnson. Okay, I think he's gonna score.

What are the odds on that?

I don't know. Probably decent ish. He did. He's getting. He's getting an extended look this week.

I like that.

And I love an extended look. What is. What's your pick? Pft.

I'm gonna go with Brie Saul.

Okay. Max.

-145 not great. Not great odds, but Max, I'm gonna bring us back.

I'm gonna. I think these odds will probably change.

By the time Roshan is plus 190.

Okay.

I think these odds will definitely change by the time game time starts for.

The Dallas Goddard being plus 210 makes no sense.

Okay.

In what way?

He's the only guy. He's only got gameplay. No, you know what? It honestly makes me think that maybe.

Maybe one of Devante Smith or AJ Brown will play. All right, I still like. I like Dallas Goddard. I like Dallas Goddard.

All right, let's win this. All right. And then our picks. We have who's. Who's in first? I know I'm tied for last with memes.

I'm tied for first.

I think I might be tied for first.

Nice. Nice, boys. All right, who goes first? Things. Me. Yes.

Big cat goes first. Hank?

Three and three.

Pft.

Three and three, Max. Two, three and one.

Me and big cat. Two and four.

All right, I'll take the over in the Commanders Cardinals game.

All right.

I just I want it. I want. I want that game to be fun so bad.

Come in the hole. Holes wide open.

Yeah. All right, Hank.

I'm like Goatsye.

I will take the packers minus three.

Okay.

Not going to.

Against the Vikings. Uh, there will be a hungry dog this week. The dogs have been hungry this season, but the hungriest dogs are the ones that don't seem obvious.

How is the hungry cat parlay on Monday night? Terrible.

That's why dogs on a dog, man, never go away from the dogs. Cats. Gross.

Yep. Agreed.

Agreed. Oh, I just spilled.

Oh, no, that's all right.

I got a bunch of paper that I'm just gonna put.

All right, memes gonna take the Cardinals.

Minus three and a half.

Oh, terrible line.

Washington commanders.

Memes are such a dick.

That was such a dick move.

Memes gassing up your boy breeze.

The.

Way you were talking.

Let him talk.

Me like the cardinals.

Yeah, well, more and more.

You can suck my dick during the segment to go.

All right, well, you guys can both suck my dick. You don't want to see me.

I did not text anyone during that.

Yeah, you don't. You don't want to see me have success. It's sad.

No, it's just. Just like, you know, the way you're talking.

Oh, 100%. 100%.

Like, I.

There's. There is a voice inside me that's telling me, pft, chill the fuck out. But I'm completely disregarding that.

Yes.

I'm like. I'm like that dude, Stockton rush with a sub that's going to the Titanic, and you're hearing the sub start to creak, and you're like, fuck it. We're going to see this awesome shipwreck, and it's going to be sweet, and you're going to change the world. That's what I'm thinking right now. I'm ready to be hurt again.

Yes. All right, who's up?

I am up. I'm going to take the Falcons minus two and a half.

I like that pick. I like that pick. You got two.

Okay. Yeah, I do. I love both these picks. Patriots, 49 ers under 40.5.

Okay, smart.

And the Washington commanders plus three and a half. I like a money line, and I love them as a dog, so I'm taking the points.

Okay.

And I'm getting that fresh new line on them.

Yep.

I.

Seriously, I wish I could. I wish you could take your line. I would. Yeah, I would. All right, Max, I am going to.

Take Rams bears under 41 and a half.

Okay, memes, I'm gonna take chiefs chargers under 40. Okay.

Browns Raiders over 37.

Whoa. Brown's raiders over 37.

Points are down.

You took the falcons, right, Max? I'll take the. I'll take the ravens. Minus two and a half to someone. Take them.

No, no, no.

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Love it. I forgot that was even happening.

Windham clock.

Max home. A good italian boy.

Scotty Scheffler, 15, 1530 in your fucking grill mix.

Love it. My sitam grill bitch.

Arsenal fans.

Arsenal.

Let me make something very clear.

No one gives a fuck if you.

Tied or lost a game against fucking man City.

This is America.

If you're getting mad that someone said you lost the game when you really tied and acting like a tie is a win, you're a fucking loser.

Some would say it's not a tie, it's a draw or it's a result.

In my opinion, if you fucking give up a goal and turn a win.

Into a draw, that's a loss. So don't act like it's a draw.

Or anything worse than a loss. It's a fucking loss.

Fuck you. Arsenal fans. Watch real football.

Yeah, Man City. What is that? A place that Tom Brennaman never wants to go to.

Exactly. Exactly.

My sleeper biz and whiz coming up next on part of my take. Great interview.

Yes.

Good plug and Jamal.

Thanks.

Thanks.

Hey, what's. Hey, what's up, you dickheads? This is Mayor Adams from New York City. I'm starting mudang. Mudang is starting. It's a pygmy hippopotamus we talked about. I'm not taking money from Thailand to.

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I agree. What's up, fuckers? My name is Matthew Sluka.

A sluka.

Matthew Sluka. I'm starting myself because I'm not starting anymore. No, I'm leaving you. An LV.

The holy cross transfer. Yeah, be a real shame if he ended up in Harrisonburg.

Yeah, I'm sitting Nil because everyone lies to you. And that's why I'm not starting anymore.

Nobody really knows what the rules are.

No one knows.

There's a fucking corrupt place where money doesn't work, work out.

It's like, this is our thing. This is La Costa. No straw. You don't tell, you keep your mouth shut if they don't pay you.

Am I sleeping in the desert? Is the new quarterback for you? Nlv Hodge. He's looks good, but I only saw one clip of it from Blutman. He tweeted out, he said he's the real deal, and I'll mend Hodge going.

To the desert to pay respects to the.

Hodge. Hodge. Yes, exactly. All right, that was good fantasy. Fuck. Boys, that story is new day. It's nil.

Yeah, so he was allegedly told by an assistant that he was gonna get a hundred grand.

Yep.

And then he got there, and he got, what, $3,000 a week?

Yeah.

Is that it? And so now he's like, hey, you told me you were gonna pay me, and you're not paying me, so I'm out. Yeah, case, what's that?

It's like the young Dolph case.

Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I know. Exactly.

Exactly.

Like, good point.

Yeah, that was really good point.

Yeah.

Young dolph remind.

So me and big cat. No, but memes is over there, like, oh, what's going on? So maybe you can tell memes.

The men who were arrested for the murder of young Dolph were told they're gonna get a hundred k. They murdered him, got paid $300 and then $500.

So they're arresting the guys that.

No, now the guys are ratting, and they're like, hey, you're like, hey, you.

Should arrest these guys. Cause they actually didn't pay me as much as they said they were gonna pay me.

Yeah. Very sad. Fucked up, but similar.

Okay.

Yeah. Okay.

Young dolph. Yeah. I understand. From his perspective, if he got lied to, and he has, he's not going to go play in the NFL. And he has one chance to get paid to play football. He's got to take advantage of it. Red shirt.

Our friend for weather's had a good take on it and basically said that Nil is the modern day drug deal gone bad.

Yep.

If things don't happen according to plan, then what do you do? Who are you going to complain to about it?

Yep.

You just have. He's using the only leverage that he has, which is, is I have to quit after three weeks and then I can play another season.

Yeah.

And his offense coordinator and head coach from holy cross at JMU, maybe. Maybe reunite him next year.

Interesting. Okay. All right, let's get to our interview with Biz and wit.

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Okay, we now welcome on our two very, very good friends. Probably our best podcast duo friends.

Yeah, I would say so.

Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's.

You be my second. You be my second favorite.

Kelsey Collard.

Yeah. Call her daddy.

You guys will be my second favorite.

Second. Who's number one?

I think Will and Taylor, they've gotten to you.

They brought you up.

They smoked him up.

You probably do a podcast together and then I'll hit the showers. Nice episode, boys.

I do this with rub me down.

All right, so it's Paul Bissonnette. It's Ryan Whitney here with us. I want it on the record. This is not our NHL preview.

That's in January.

January. This is not our NHL preview.

Once football.

We do not want to. I don't even know if we should talk.

Should we do our NHL recap?

We could do our HL recap. We could do an NFL preview with you guys.

Oh, sick.

I know a little bit about the.

Since he's gonna be unreal.

What do you know about the.

Cincinnati Bengals are in trouble right now. What percentage of teams with that start the season even own two.

I think one of the last 41 make the playoffs and it was them. It was Cincy.

Oh, good karma. Good karma.

Three.

It's a good omen.

Good something karma, bad karma. Because they've, they've done it before.

I think it's. I think it's a good omen.

Omen.

Yeah.

They've got the culture to do it.

They know how to do it.

Relax, Eminem.

I do have one little hockey question.

Joe Burrow. He's got the frosted tips.

Yeah, he does.

Oh, yeah.

Little hockey question. Not really any show preview because again, we're not gonna do right now. What? Who. Can you guys explain the beef right now? What's the beef? Well, you guys are beefing with a.

G. Oh, wit handle.

I just see a series of quote tweets where it's like, I didn't say that I did that. I back that guy.

That's not a. I never retweeted anything about tweets. I said, quote, I didn't quote, tweet it out. Maybe this might have said that was Squanto's dad being me, but basically what happened was Jeremy Swamon is the, this awesome goalie that the Boston Bruins have and they had linus all mark as well. He won the Vesna two years ago. Suyman was kind of the backup, but they split time in the regular season. All Mark took over in the playoffs. They lost in seven games to the Florida Panthers. So then going into this past year, they ended up kind of splitting it, but Suman took over as more than number one.

Okay.

And then going into the playoffs, they beat Toronto in seven and then they lost to Florida in six. Florida goes on to win the Stanley cup without swam and Boston probably loses Toronto. He was dominant.

Oh, that's your team biz.

That's business. They can't win like the big deal selects.

Just wanted to make sure we say that.

So. So after this, all mark, all mark now has one year left on his deal. Swayman is a restricted free agent. They tried to trade all mark at the deadline because they realized Suman was their guy. He denied a trade that they had lined up with a lot to the LA Kings. Okay, so because he had the no trade clause where I think he had ten teams picked, he could decide LA is one of them. I don't want to go there.

Why wouldn't you want to go to LA?

I don't get it. Well, you won't. It will make less sense when you find out that he went to Ottawa.

Oh, ok. Ok.

So he is european. So maybe that difference in time zone and he's got kids in the face.

I like that.

That makes it like the time zone difference to Europe.

Yeah, because there's no other reason where LA, like if he went there, like they could be a cup contender.

And it's also LA. Pretty nice place to live.

And La needs a goalie. They can't get a goalie, so. All right, well, bruins, like we got to trade him. We got to trade them. They end up realizing or they knew beforehand that his no trade list, he could change the teams on it on a certain day. Say it's July 1. I don't remember the exact day. So they have this trade lined up with Ottawa. They're panicked. We think we got to get this done because if tomorrow comes, he may put Ottawa on the list.

Right, right.

So they rush trade him to Ottawa. They don't get much of a return. They got this goalie, Corpus Salo, who struggled for a while.

Now he's got upside.

Okay, he has been very good, but he had a real bad last two years.

And Boston, they think their team defense, they think they could put any above average goaltender in that. And it's like system QB. Yeah, that's kind of what Boston's thinking. Hallmark was doing it, so was Swayman. They were basically doing. Doing. At the same time, Suyman has also never played more than 55 games. And I think he has durability. Five games in his career. Not durability. They were essentially the last two years sharing the net, but lean towards more Swayman in the back half of the season because he was playing better. And in playoffs, his numbers speak for themselves. He was, I think, statistically the best goalie. Right? Wit.

Yeah.

Speaker zero.

Enough where like now four nations tournament. Canada, Russia of Canada, Sweden, Finland, US. We facing off this February and best on best. People are like, I think Suman might be USA's goalie. Ok. Like he's. He's turned into a star. Some people say hasn't done it long enough. Whatever. Backstory a little bit. The summer prior, the Bruins took swim into arbitration. Arbitrations where biz makes the joke that all they do is rip on you. They say you got a small car, horrible teammate.

Your wife says you're horrible.

How arbitration, they go in and they just bury you. Well, apparently they were so bad and so brutal to swaim. And he was pissed off. He was disgusted. He left a bad taste in his mouth.

Like he might have a small cock.

Who knows what they said, GM or their lawyer. I don't know who actually is doing the ripping, the actual talking.

Because if it's like, not a hockey guy, just like a lawyer that's doing it, that would piss me off.

Yeah.

Yeah. You just know where it's coming from. From.

Yeah.

Right. So it's Don Sweeney, the GM. So now they decide to trade Almark. They don't have a contract with Swayman yet. He's still restricted. But they have decided to trade Almark before this contract was swimming, maybe figuring that they could just get him on the cheap and that he might agree to whatever got the bad taste in his mouth from arbitration. And then he did an interview where he talked about. He understands that he does. He wants to set the goalie mark. He doesn't want to fuck over other goalies in the NHL and take this low ball offer. So the stalemate has come to the point. Now I get news from somebody that Suyman got a recent, his last offer from the team after the team really didn't talk to him much during the summer, which is kind of standard in maybe July and June. So that leads us to today. I get word that they've given him an offer four years times 6.2. Apparently his offer was eight years times nine, which is definitely overreaching.

But 9.25, which was the McAvoy contract, that was their comparable.

Got it. So I like how you guys are tag teaming this.

Hop in whenever you want. So I find out that the offer is four years times 6.2. Crazy low ball. And that they, that they haven't talked in like three weeks. It's August. Camps. Camps in ten days. So I said it on the podcast. I was talking about what I'd heard, and we just kind of thought nothing of it. Biz was like, oh, shit. Cuz I hadn't told him prior speaker one.

I was getting excited. Like, I was like, oh, we got this. You know, he's saying this on the, on, on the pod. Like, fans are gonna be like, oh, this is the most we've heard about this all summer drama.

So say I said this early September, if not late August. Don Sweeney, the GM of the Bruins, does a press conference the day before camp opens. That's pretty standard procedure for all the GM's. And in the middle of the press conference, he's being asked kind of over and over, what's up with Sueman? Camp starts tomorrow. You don't have your star goalie. You could tell he's frustrated, annoyed. I'm not going to address any of the rumors. Actually, I'll address one. That part, that spitting up on yourself podcast.

Spitting up on yourself.

Called it the spitting up on yourself podcast.

We got them.

They said, yeah. Boom. I'm like, oh, he's calling names. He's talking about us. This is amazing, fish. He's like, they, they biz. Everyone loves biz. My son loves biz. I know he's an entertainer. He, he's talking about that. I didn't return Jeremy Suman's calls for three weeks. That's bullshit. So we're like, this is phenomenal. We were at Chiclet's cup when it broke. Spitting up on yourself podcast. The guy has no, like, clue. And also, I had the, I had the contract offer, right? He didn't argue that. So whether it was two weeks, three weeks, or ten days, right. There's been enough silence in August with your star goalie that it's seriously alarming to most bruins, right?

Yeah. And I would think that the Bruins, they're generally, I think biz, when you talk about the best regimes in hockey or would you consider them to be one of the best?

Include this biz. Sorry, quickly. They have since Don Sweeney took over as GM, I think ten years ago, the most points in the NH. Yeah.

I would say a very successful regime. They probably would have won maybe two more cups if they would have executed their drafts flawlessly or even like, like.

Got a bounce here they go into game seven.

Yeah. Like 80% to 85%. Like strike rate. They, they had three first rounders one year and I think they missed with every one, didn't they?

One of them was the brusque.

Brusque.

So Dubrusk was solid. But then like, they, there was a couple that were right around those other picks where you're like, oh, buddy, that's the guy. And I know it's hard to predict predicting the drafts, so not full criticism to him, but overall replenishing, getting good free agents at the right price. They've really moved on from the right people at the right time. And he deserves a lot of credit, but he's a big fan of yours too. I agree with wit where I don't think that they really thought this through, especially after having kind of pissed him off in last year's arbitration. There was a reason they didn't have enough money to pay him last year, this big contract. They didn't have it this year. Now I think they have 8.6 million now left in cap space where what I think view is a slap in the face offer was the four years at 6.2. They should have offered them like give them security, but maybe start off at like seven per. I think there's not a chicken dick's chance in hell. He doesn't at least get eight times a year. Speaker two chicken dick.

Here's another, here's another chicken dick.

Smaller in hell.

Yeah.

Another aspect of this is that his age agent represented, if not still represents William Nylander, who years back held out till like December 1 with the Maple Leafs in the same exact Scott Baldwin. And he got what he wanted. And he got what he wanted.

So I know you guys have a lot of football fans and other sports fans, so moving forward it's a gamble because they have that corpus. Allo, who struggled the last couple of.

Years, I heard he had a lot of upside.

Lots of upside. So all of a sudden you get him in front of the structured team with good defense and, and you know, good special teams.

Anybody can be a good goalie for the Bruins.

And he has a hot start.

What do you mean by that?

It's kind of like a system. Kind of like Mike Shanahan. Kyle Shanahan.

Got it.

You get a running back or you get a quarterback in there and then.

Go.

We'Re making good points.

You are. We were making football now.

Yeah.

Cause the way their defense is set.

Up, you don't need a superstar.

You don't need a thing. But if you go back to playoffs, he was probably their best player overall.

Yeah.

He was their star. So they've been so, like, they're gonna.

Wow. Except three bro first round picks.

We're gonna go to arbitration, we're gonna rip you apart. And then all of a sudden, you become the starter. You lead us in the playoffs. And that system did let him down a bit based on the amount of shots they were giving up. And he stood on his head against Florida.

Right.

So it's like, oh, fuck. Oh, he proved it. So then offer him. He's your guy. And if he wasn't your guy, why the fuck did you trade the Vesna winner from two years ago before he had it? Cause you wanted to get Corpus Salo and, like, a draft pick and maybe some prospect, like, come on here. So manage your assets better. He fumbled the deal, and he called them out on it, and he said it was a slap in the face offer. The only discrepancy was whit said, like. Like, basically, like, he didn't return Swaymon's camp's callback, where, worst case, there was radio silence for three weeks. Unacceptable. And then boom, boom, boom.

So this happens. It is awesome for the pod. Right? Like, whenever.

Yeah. It's like, it's an original six franchise with an enormous question mark as camp begins over their star goalie. And the guy's talking about us like, you think he's rattled.

Yeah.

So, I mean, obviously, like, you don't want to. You don't ever want to be on the side of, like, saying something on the pod. It turns out it's not true with the size that our show is. But what do I have? What do I have to get out of, like, making that up.

Right.

So what happens if they don't come to an agreement?

So. So here's the kicker. So I think December 1, maybe a week or two, discrepancy. If he is not signed by that time, he. They forfeit the season. Like, he can't play at all.

Oh.

So it's. So let's say corpus, all of a sudden he's ten and four with a, you know, a 910 915 save percentage and a goals against average, like a little above two. It's kind of like swam is going to start sweating.

Right?

They're going to see, see everybody. We could put any guy in here. Last fucking four goalies were successful playing in front of this team.

Right?

So sway might end up in a position where he is rooting against. In a way, he's for the Bruins to win, but he's ruined. He's rooting for the win. Five, six, five.

Now on the flip side, probably more likely Corpus salos trash at the beginning and they're losing the. And the fan base is already loud about get him signed.

Yeah, the pressure.

Then it's like you could lose your job.

Right.

So I need you to tell me what side to be on, and I will be very vocal.

We're the player side, okay.

Always.

And we're the players side. And also, it's not just the players. Because I told Biz, if Suman was like, I want 9.5 and I'm not budging, I'd be like, all right, well.

You'Re 35 games in league. No. Yeah, I think that, I think if, if Boston said, here's eight years at 7.75, just gonna say that number, wow. That 7.0. Like, shake it. Now you got your, your length. If, if Swayman saying, no, I ain't taking less than 8.75 in a situation where maybe I would be Don Sweeney and saying, well, wait it out because that's not the offer we're ever going to give you. And December 1. Tick, tick, tick. And let's see who has the leverage by then. And it's basically, what do you call it when you line up to the back and you walk out and then you.

Guys are like. Like, you get sources now, huh?

He does.

No, not, not a ton, but, like.

I feel like this happened a few times for you guys in the last.

Well, two big ones.

But you've broken stories that the rest of the NHL media is just not even, like, on.

Well, sometimes it happens by accident.

Yeah. And some of the times guys get like, there's a lot of. We're not insiders by any means, but insiders will get information and the source giving it to them be like, you can't say anything though, right? But they got a weight on it or something like that. I don't. If whoever's telling me something's like, yeah, I don't care. Like, just make sure. You don't say my name, and it's something that is, like, worthy to talk about. I'll talk about it, especially if it's, like, to try to help a player, because this guy, in my mind, deserves eight times eight, right.

Mm hmm.

Right.

Yeah. That's just our opinion.

Yeah, that's you guys.

I'm on your side.

I also. I mean, it's. It's cool that you guys have set it up wherever I. Players can trust you, and that's the goal. Right, exactly. And you guys can, like, because I just love it whenever you guys stick it to traditional media and what's so.

Much fun to watch and what's funny is, I've had three texts. I've showed him some things I. That I was asked not to share since then that are like, oh, my God, don't. People don't really like Don Sweeney.

Right. Right.

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Do you guys get, do you get like, offended when people are like, oh, your podcast doesn't know shit? I would you get offended when people like you guys?

Some people might not listen all time. So when we're like tweeting out all these like, hashtag rumor boys, like, they might not know we're fucking around. We say stuff like, you guys that just can take.

Well, we don't know shit.

Yeah, sometimes we don't either. Yeah, but we can laugh at ourselves. Yeah, I don't really give a fuck why.

You guys are really good, but.

Yeah, and we make like, I would say some ridiculous claims where we're joking around a lot. So people like these idiots, these clowns. It's like, well, yeah, we're trying to make people laugh, but when you get in the depths of like, actually talking hockey, we both know what we're talking about. People disagree. But to say, like, they have no clue what they're talking about when they're talking about the game, if you want to say that, that's fine. But we both know that, right? We know the game, right?

You know the game. Yeah.

A lot of people know way more about it than I do. But a lot of people listening don't.

It's also be a wild rumor to just pull out of your ass.

Yes.

Like the numbers are.

So what do we gain?

Details, right.

Nothing. I got another hockey question. Not the NHL preview. Can Connor McDavid win the big one?

Good question.

No doubt in my mind.

There should be a little doubt. He's never won the big one.

I know. I just. I just don't have. Yeah, obviously. I guess that's a good point for you. I'm very confident that this is the year.

This is the year.

Yeah. And that. I know I've said that previously, but they've lost to the last three Stanley cup champs. They have a better team this year than they did last year where they got to game seven of the cup final. They have Leon dreisital signed up to a long term, long term extension. McDavid will be next. Their top six are the best top six forwards in the league. They need help on the right side of the defense, where they'll be able to because of the cap space they have, and they're in a great spot. So, yeah, winning a cup is, is so difficult, but I I don't see him not getting one, and this year, I think, is the year.

Rumor boy said life or death. Four years. Like a four year gun to your head. I would say they. Yeah, I would say they would win one cup. That would, my guess, life or death.

Okay. I heard that McDavid might not sign a long term deal if they can't win the big one one, and he wants to go play somewhere else.

So many people have said that and continue to say that. The big change in that topic is that him and Dreisel are best friends. And Leon was up for an extension this year. He has one year left on his deal, but he can be resigned July 1 with one year left in the contract. So everyone's like, oh, Leon coming back if he leaves. Connors definitely leaving. He signed an eight year deal at 14 million a year, highest paid player in the league.

Okay.

And now that contract and his biggest contract, I don't know if it was bigger than Ovechkins right around there.

Okay.

So now the whole discussion is, in my opinion, and what Oilers fans are saying is they're so close. Leon's not re signing. If he doesn't get know from Conor that he'll resign as well.

All right, so question about that, though. If he signed the biggest contract, Conor McDavid, I assume, is gonna sign a bigger contract.

So he'll be here.

I meant 14 per. I bet you connors worth 16, so.

Well, he's worth about 30.

But what happens to the Oilers cap, though? Are they fucked?

I think the cap is going to go up a significant amount each year. To where? That's why I said it might take year three or four, because if they don't win it next year, all of a sudden you're going to have that 14 on the books. Luckily, you get.

We got bugs in the office.

Luckily, you'd have one more year of Conor at a fair number. But it'll get really difficult that following third year. I would. If you got one guy making 16 and 14 and 30 million, your cap and two players, oh, God forbid one of them goes down during a run. Like, that's just like, yeah, that's catastrophic.

I heard McDavid want to maybe go to LA, play for the Kings.

Oh, where'd you hear that?

Win some Stanley cups there, then maybe finish his career out in New York.

Where'd you hear that?

Turtle.

They made it up right now.

Oh, Wayne I made it up. The Wayne Rose.

I made it up right now.

Rumor boy, the Wayne row.

So is there a possibility that he told dry side like, hey, let them think that if they re sign you, they are also going to keep me get as much money as you can because I'm your best friend.

But he would have got as much money as he wanted anywhere.

Anywhere.

So if Leon more Fleon played this year, he probably would have. Yeah. If not 14, it would have been even more for then.

I feel like Oilers fans should be feeling.

Once Leon resigned, it was a giant sign of relief, not just for him, but the fact that it looks like.

Saying that, though if, let's say, Conor all of a sudden had a chain of heart, Leon has the power to probably just go to the organization. If he doesn't want to be in Edmonton anymore and bc say, I'm not coming here, find a way to move me and get what you can back in return.

I love Canadian. I love it.

What?

How you say organization.

Organize.

I love it. Every time you say it that way. I love it.

I don't even know. I didn't.

Organization.

Organization.

Yeah, we more say organization.

I love how you say it. I'm being serious. I love when you say it, like.

Kind of gets it sounds like so hockey official.

Yeah, it's just something about it. It's just like there. It's just more official when it's like the organization say regime.

Regime.

Yeah, that's good, too. It's almost french, the way I say it's.

Are you about to. When does your crazy like, schedule start?

Not next week. The week after.

And then you're in Atlanta.

I go to. Yeah, I fly there. I think on, yeah, Tuesday the 8th. So that'll be the opening day of NHL. And then Wednesday the 9th we start our broadcast and actually from there I'll be going to Boston. We're going to do some stuff in Boston with pink Whitney. I think we're going to get another sandbagger. And then that following Tuesday we have to.

Can we do a sandbag?

I would love to with you, too.

We tried doing one with you guys, but you guys are tough to track down. Boys.

I if I'm.

What's your handicap?

A lot. My, I'm not very sure.

You have to maybe do a scramble where I play with you and then you play with wet or vice versa.

Yeah.

I think if you did it honestly, I'd probably be like a 23.

I think I'd be like a 45.

Oh no.

And then Hank will just play in.

Front of us and Hank will play 36 holes like the day before.

He's got scout. He's got a scout.

So. So McDonald's David can win the big one. Can the, can the. Not a big deal selects ever win the big one.

Oh, tell everyone about hockey team.

We got a guest of yours.

Tell me about. I want to hear more about the format. I want to hear about ball hockey because it looks insane.

So it's very competitive in the arena is very small. The ones that they build at Chicklets cup because we, we collab with this guy Brad Jones from hockey Fest. So it just so happens the ball hockey rinks they have are small and it's three on three. So they're just. The games get so physical and these guys take it so seriously. And then of course because we put a team in, a few professional teams started popping up and now, I mean we get eight teams in the A division for ball hockey. I want to expand to 16 teams. But yeah, we just, we've done it five times. This is our first ever one in Canada. We just did. We've never won our own ball hockey tournament. And we bring in ringers.

Are you in the A League?

Yeah. They haven't even got to the final.

Are you guys put this way?

I don't know. He didn't even play.

I played professional hockey twelve years. Played in the NHL for five. I can't keep up with these guys from a physical and running and just the amount of wear and tear over the course of playing three round robin games and then two more semis and then finals. I feel like I got in a car accident the next day.

There's real hits.

Oh. At one point in this tournament, a guy got run over in the corner and as he's down and people are like, penalty. Another guy on that same team just was standing out like near the back of the rink and just butt ended the guy next to him which is just sticking the end of this. Your stick out of the top end and just got him like in the, in the kidney.

Yeah.

So it's vicious. It's full on physical, like full on checking, cross checking, spearing and the amount of like running back and forth. It's, it's intense. Very intense. Like I got buddies. Well, that leads to Yance. I got buddies. Who are like, oh, I put in a team. I'm like, this isn't street hockey. This is like game seven of the cup final.

Right.

But Yanz is so sick and tired of hearing what the big deal selects and them not winning that he's like, I'm done with you guys. I'm putting a team.

Wait, so is he on the big deal?

He's seen the social clips, and he's just like, enough of you.

Big deal selects the big deal. They can't get out of the fucking semi final.

So, Yans, you're listening this right now. If you need assistant coaches, PFT and I are in for your team.

So he's going to assemble a team next year.

We're in.

I'm wearing a suit.

Yeah, we're in. So that's why I take down. We. We want to win your ball hockey tournament before you do. That's what we're going to do with Jans.

Oh, yeah.

No, we're assistant coaches of his team. If he'll accept us.

Okay. So that's why I want to expand to 16. We're trying to get it done at the Calgary Stampede, which would be unbelievable.

Oh, that's the one where you put. You dress like a cowboy and get drunk for ten days.

Yes. We would basically go, we'll put him in our division, and it's loser go home. So if they advance farther than us, then. Then I'll never put. The big deal selects team is done.

We can fold the team.

Never to be spoken again of again.

Me cat runs such a good system.

Yeah.

It doesn't matter who's in golf for us.

Well, just. Yeah. So are you saying it's like Brock Purdy?

Yeah, it's kind of like that. Like Brock.

Because our defense.

Yeah, we're kind of taking that Brock Purdy thing to hockey, which has never been done before.

Okay, so you guys think if it's at the Calgary Stampede, you guys will be able to make it or just.

Send players and fuck you back into June? Okay, here's the.

June could possibly work.

No, here's classic. Yeah, we're not. I'm gonna. Max is right. I'm gonna step back a little. Little. I'm gonna take a quick step back.

You're gonna be owner and funder.

I'm gonna be. We're gonna be owners and funders.

So you have to pay these guys. You have to pay the ringers to fly in, and maybe they're gonna ask for money. I don't know much.

This is your guys are all in with flights and hotels for ten grand each.

Doesn't get a good team.

If Hank doesn't dunk, we're in. We'll just take that money and use.

We can reinvent that.

And then. And then the team to be named will be.

Well, yeah, involved too. He fucking made.

Yeah. Yeah. Will. Listen, Yance, we will contribute to the team. We just want our name on the cup when we win the whole thing. And the big deal selects are crying.

And there's a villain called nose face killer, and he already dm me, didn't show up this year. He bailed last minute like the rat he is. And he already dm me saying, it's time for you to join the dark side in a sense of bringing him into the big deal selects. Not a chance, but I think Yans is going to pick up this.

No, we're going to randomly. Yanz's stick boy at Cushing Academy when he was playing the kids. Horrible.

But is he bad at hockey?

No, he's unreal.

I'm gonna say right now. What's his name?

Nose face killer.

He gets. He gets a $1,000 out of my pocket to play first. That's has nothing to do with the money we're gonna put up otherwise. Thousand bucks if he's on the till match. All right, $2,000.

Time we saw him in Detroit, first tournament we did nose face in the casino.

Oh, yeah.

He was, like, barking as I'm gonna.

That's how a man like Warren ski.

From the Columbus Blue jersey Jackets has a team with his buddies who all played hockey. Like, you guys are going to get dusted. And he came out and he fucking dummied them in the round robin game. And then Lorenzky's team beefed up and brought on some fighter guy, and then they smoked him in the final.

No. No's face scored in overtime.

That's the kind of guy that we want. So I want. I want to not only have your team folded, I want you to sign over property, intellectual property of the big deal selects to myself and biggest. So we take over ownership of your team?

Yes.

And then we'll choose whether or not we want to play. Turn them into the worst team.

No, we're going to take the big deal selects. We're going to move them to utah. That's what we're going to fucking do.

We get complete ownership of the big deal selects.

Okay, so when you guys announce your team, I want the same thing in return. I want all ownership rights.

Fine.

Of a brand new team that we don't care about.

Okay.

You're gonna have to remind me when this happens, okay? Okay. Yan's. We. When he listens, as he listen, he's a listener. When he hears this, hit us up.

You're getting a call.

Let us.

I'm interested to hear.

Whatever. Whatever. The number.

Yeah, yeah. Listen, we're hands off owners. We're just, you know, we're the money guys also, we're actually. Also, yan's is the money guy too.

Yeah, yeah. It's also the money guy. And if mjdeheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheh. Wants to contribute, that's fine. They golf together. He can contribute as well. And you guys might be like, you guys are terrible owners. We've won a premier lacrosse league championship, so we are at least one time champions.

Won something.

We have. Yeah, we did. We lost them.

They're around here somewhere.

Swear to God, we lost them.

They're definitely.

Going through it on the floor.

The problem is, we put all the rings together, and we're like, all like, remember, the rings are here. And then we lost where they all were.

Then Max got involved in the next year, they finished second place.

Yep.

How about that?

A loser.

Just a fact. Yeah.

I would actually also like to have. Yeah. Max is free to be the mascot assistant coach for the big deal selects. We want him on your team.

He's guess.

No, no. He could be the water boy.

Sure.

All right, great.

Everyone thing.

Oh, okay. Stick boy, isn't it?

I've won.

I've won. You give me stick boy three.

You know what?

One.

He's one.

That's true. I was listening to the most recent episode, spit and chiclets. I'm a fan. And there was a story that you guys kind of danced around that I thought maybe you'd like to share with us, because I didn't know this, but apparently, biz, your sister, is married to a guy named Paul.

Oh, my God.

Oh, no.

Yeah.

Let's just. Let's just preface this with, I ran into Bizdez is his sister at the ball hockey tournament, and she's so nice, so friendly, talkative, and where she always brings up the story, like, can you not talk about the Paul's? And I was like, yeah, no problem. I won't. And then she's like, and by the way, you've never met. Here's my husband, Paul. She married. Biz was the one that first told this on. On chiclets.

Yeah. And then I went over to my parents house for brunch one day, and she was. You know, she was staying there with the. With Paul, the husband. And, you know, brunch was ready. Hey, can you go upstairs and get nat? And I knocked, and it was like, yeah. And I opened the door, assuming, like, yeah, like. Like, come in. International sign for come in.

Yeah.

And. And I walk in, and Paul's just plowing myself right before. Right before. French toast and eggs and bacon. Just going to the woodshed on Natalie.

Just giving her the reebok here.

Good old Paul.

Paul.

I left brunch. I didn't. I grabbed a quick strip of bacon, and I was out of there. I'd seen enough.

And then he just started dming every girl.

Yeah, you gotta find. You gotta find your sister.

Just.

You wanna find her name somewhere and then just trick her into walking in.

I met a girl, Natalie, once, that I like, but I just. I couldn't get over the hump. I was like, let's stop this before it gets.

And now. Now Paul, her ex, Paul is with that Natalie, so it all works.

What's even crazier is I went on a few dates this summer. Cause one of my buddies had introduced me to a girl, and I took a liking to her. But she had the same name as my father, which is Camille. Oh, that's c a m I l l e. So I was like, I told you, right?

Yeah.

So I was like, jesus. It'd be a little weird if I bring home Camille to meet Camille, and Paul's there with Natalie, and Paul comes in too much.

I don't think I could.

You guys got to dress up.

I think. You know what's even crazier?

Yeah.

She dated another Paul when she was in high school.

Got a type.

What? So she's in love with you. Dude, your sister's in love with you.

Never wants this to be talk.

Your sister is in love with you.

Said you couldn't date a girl named her name, but she has no problem whatsoever. Like, that. She does not have.

Well, he's trying to stop this. It's like. It's like the incest couples. Like, one point, there's one kid.

We gotta end this. Holy shit. Your sister loves you a lot more than loves big time. She's just finding Paul's. Paul's left and right.

You guys are very close.

It's a deal breaker. She's swiping right on everyone who's not.

Able to provide your.

No, no.

Like, when you put in, like, what you want in the dating app. She's right. Only Paul.

Paul's only. So she's gonna kill me when she said.

She's gonna kill me when she said he might divorce her. Now what are you gonna do with that?

You suck.

What are you talking about?

It's pretty. Plenty of paws in the sea.

Go down the local construction site. Anyone named Paul.

Have you ever introduced her to Gaz?

No.

Okay, stay away. Stay away.

No, she doesn't like bald pauls.

Oh, okay. Well, he's not bald. He just wears a hat on. You don't know that.

True. Very true.

Paul's Gaz is ripped out.

When does this come out?

Fuck yeah.

Friday.

Okay. Yeah, I'm gonna be getting a text Saturday morning.

Okay.

No one's gonna hear this.

No, but no one listens.

Nobody listens to this show.

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Want to know something crazy?

Oh, I do.

It's not. That was way, like, overly hyped. It's not the songs.

Right.

The socks are brutal, aren't they?

Do you remember when I came on the show and you guys relentlessly tortured me for saying McDavid was better at his sport than anyone else in the world? Wasn't their sport?

Yeah, but he doesn't.

I've now switched it to Ohtani, and I'm, like, obsessed with watching this guy.

It might be, if you don't want football, it might be Travis Hunter.

Oh, yeah, Travis.

Travis Hunter. Really?

Dude, there's a college player who's that?

He plays wide receiver and cornerback. He played 144 snaps the other night.

For who?

For Colorado.

And so he went to Deon's first school. That was, I believe, like, all black school.

Yeah.

Number one recruit in the nation had never committed to an HBO. He went there to fall Deon. And then Dion went to Colorado, and he followed him there. And he still has to play one more year of call.

No, he. I think he come out this year.

This is second year Colorado.

Yeah.

So he'll be not the first pick, like, because, you know, he might not.

Be the first pick because they don't. Wide receivers. I don't know what he's going to play because he. You can make the case. He's wide receiver one and cornerback one.

Yeah, he's the best cornerback, by far, in college football. Now and he's definitely, he's probably top three or four wide receivers.

So, you know, I guess it's similar to Ohtani that, like, never again did people think, like, somebody would come in and be an elite pitcher and bat and be unreal. He's done that nobody's done consistently offense and defense in the NFL. Like, maybe he'll be the guy that does it.

It's.

It's, I think, the most remarkable part about it. I would assume that what, 75% of people listening assume that he was like, like, that the gambling stuff was in fact him. What show?

Never done a thing wrong.

I think. Yeah, I don't think we know the full story yet, but.

But we were saying it's probably fair to assume that, like, he might have known what was going on.

I've actually been on the side of. I've thought he was innocent. And the only reason I thought this was because I think people underrated the fact that he was in a. He's in a foreign country, doesn't speak the language, and his only lifeline to the outside world, Washington, this interpreter. And so I think the interpreter, like, that's a prime advantage of him. Like, if he was, if he was a native english speaker I like, and he had a best friend, I. This is bullshit. Like, I knew what was going on. I just think that that interpreter was able to keep a lot of stuff.

And I'm not even good at checking my finances. And if you have that much money.

Like, is he ever lookard that he was involved? He's easily the goat. Because the fact that he could do what he's doing now with that on.

His conscience, sweating out like a 17.

Parlay my numbing boat, that if he was doing that and all that was breaking and you're going into this season and still with probably being under a microscope of people trying to dig that up and you do what he's doing now. Yeah, the goat.

They would also tell you how good he was at baseball. If the MLB commissioner was actually like, yeah, we know it was you, but we're not going to punish.

That's what I was going to say. That if, if. Even if this guy was caught in a casino stealing people's chips, like MLB, like, sweep this under the rock.

Sure.

The biggest signing ever. The biggest global superstar they've ever had. But we were. I was listening to a part a great hockey podcast we both listened to. Elliot Friedman has a show, 32 thoughts. He's the number one insider in the game, so it's way different than ours. Because, you know, it's legit.

He's.

Yeah, it's legit.

You guys are insider.

So he was talking about Ohtani and what he accomplished this year.

And they.

They were. Him and his co hosts were talking about what it would be in the NHL to do that. The 50 50. They said it's a hundred goals, 100 assists.

Holy shit.

Which has obviously never been done.

Would be like 100 goals and 100 saves.

No, I think it would be. Well, not pitch 40 if you did. Well, I guess it'll be 40 wins would probably be what a goal. He's good at.

40 wins. Hundred.

He is not pitching this year, which I might change it because he would.

Have played less games, but this is the most incredible.

Like I say, we're about to piss.

My piss.

We're about to finish.

Say goodbye. Say goodbye.

Bye, guys. Love you.

Love you, Paul. Natalie.

I just watched these Dodgers games now. Like, he play. He had a. I think it was a walk off against the Red Sox earlier in the. It's just. It's unbelievable. And then he's that big and that fast. I. Yeah, it's. It's insane watching this guy.

That was a wild move by biz.

That's a stats biz move.

Paul. Pissed.

I just did my last. I mean, we'll be minute.

We'll be mid interview on Zoom. He just gets up and got a hose. Did you even ask the question?

I asked the last question. Then he just. He knew that it was about to end.

He thought it was not a great question, so he.

Question?

Yeah. What was the question?

I don't know. But now we have a disaster brewing. Go ahead. Come on. You got it? Yeah.

Join the couch.

I gotta eat.

Sit down. The couch. Sir.

Jayden Daniels was so good.

Yes. He's awesome, isn't hedgest?

There wasn't even a word to describe how, actually.

All right, we're talk. Talking the mics.

Talking the mic. Thank you. We love you. We're in. We're doing an interview. Oh, okay. We're gonna give. I was just saying we're doing an interview, but. Am I interrupting? No, you didn't. You didn't text me back. Sorry.

I was busy still.

I was busy.

I was recording a bunch of stuff all day today. Totally. I.

What?

I knew that. I knew that Stu was up to something today because I got, like, five texts from telling me how many joints he had, and I was. I was busy. I could not. I could not smoke all day today. So that's why.

Students. Very high, right?

Yeah.

Give some tank okay, some to you. It's legal. Legal. So I bought it legally. It's legal.

Okay, some.

Tank some to you couple. To Megan. I'm not giving. I don't need any. Okay.

I would love some, Stu.

Stu asked the other day to take my kids to the zoo and the aquarium. Yeah. And I was like, Stu. That they go to school. Go to school. Although, Stu. All right, thank you, sue finer.

Yeah.

Anything. Anything significant you want to. No, no, that was it. We loved having you on. All right, thank you, Stu.

Thanks to that was to find her. Oh, thank you.

He's handing him a bunch of weed. All right. And he's giving me a kiss. Don't spill the thing.

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Okay, let's wrap up the show, boys. Fyre Fest of the week. Hank.

Spiders back?

No. No.

It's a war.

Oh, no.

And I'm losing.

Oh, no. Wait. Are they? But it's about to be.

That's the problem.

Oh, they're trying to get inside. Yes, they can feel the winter. The winds changing.

And there's. My issue is that I can clear them off of my balcony, but there's windows on the side. I probably already said this last time we talked about this, but they. I can't get to all of them. So there's ones that are alive that I think when I take out all their friends, they come in and try and get revenge. Oh, I got a spider bite earlier this week.

You did? You probably swallowed a couple. Couple.

Definitely, yeah.

Have you thought about getting one of those long vacuum cleaners on a stick? Like the long tube one, so you can.

Yeah. Reach around.

Airy.

What's the. What's the.

Imagine reaching around that corner.

Yeah, yeah.

What's the. What's the stat. Like, everyone swallows these eight spiders in there. Yeah.

That was used to be in, like, our school agendas or whatever. Yeah, I was like, one of those, like. Remember? You know what I'm talking about?

It was in your school agenda that you follow.

Every. I like every. They give you an agenda where you supposed, like, keep. To keep your schedule and shit.

Yeah.

Oh, and have little trivia, little fun facts every month.

That's not true.

I don't. I don't remember this, but I'm gonna take you.

I promise you. And I promise you. You guys are old. But I promise you, there's thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of Ada bows. We know exactly. I'm talking about. There was twelve fun facts. Whatever. In each one per month, and that was always one.

But this is not true.

You fall, you swallow 13 spiders a year.

It's not true.

No, not a year.

Yes. There's no chance.

Also in the agenda. I'm pretty sure that this is. All right. What does it say? We. Reality, however, is quite different. We swallow no spiders at all. Yeah.

There's no use to think you spider. How many.

How many spider team knows?

Eight. The belief that we swallow an average of eight spiders in our sleep every year has become so ingrained in popular culture because of agendas. It is a fact. I also just always assumed when they said an average, like, a human swallows an average of eight spiders a year, it was just like one dude in Australia eating thousands of spiders.

That actually could bring a up. Yeah, but I don't think that spiders are so dumb that they would crawl into your mouth.

No, they're smart as fuck.

Yeah. So I think they.

Like.

I think that's what I'm saying. Like, I get concerned about revenge. Like, it's.

It. Yeah. They're coming for you.

That's problem.

It is a problem?

You should just move.

Depends. We'll see how this winner goes. Winners coming.

There's coming. All right. Pft.

I mean, I don't really have a fire fest this week. It's more of a fi r eta fest because I've had a very good week. Oh, I've had an excellent week this week. And so I guess my fire fest is. I just think about Jaden all the time.

Nice.

Just all the time. I was thinking about him earlier tonight. I was watching the game. I was like, man, football is so unwatched. Watchable when Jaden's not playing.

Yeah.

It's definitely not going to come back to bite me.

No.

Like, I'm not setting myself for any sort of disappointment down the line by saying this. We have. I've had a pretty good week. I guess the exception would be I had to get some stitches out. And this was.

Oh, where?

This is last Friday, I had to get some stitches out in Austin.

Oh, the stitches were in Austin?

Yeah, I got the switches out in Austin.

Nice.

No. Okay, so, so what happened was when I had the procedure, I had a, it was like a small line across the very back of my head, and they had to stitch it up together. So I had stitches. I went into the doctor's office, my doctor in Boston, that, that gave me the new hair stuff or, excuse me, moved my own hair around on my head. Told me, yeah, you can go into any, like, minute clinic, any urgent care, and just ask them, take stitches out. They all know how to take stitches out. So I go in there and the doctor sits me down, and she looks at the back of my head, and she goes, oh, my God. And I was like, excuse me. And she's like, oh, no, it's nothing. I just haven't seen stitches like this before. I was like, oh, okay. And then she starts going around back in my head, and she goes, oh, my God. Again, I'm like, what is that? And she was like, oh, no. I'm just confused. And she kept saying, oh, my God. And I kept thinking, like, is this infected? Do I have, like, spiders crawling out of it, Hank?

Like the oh, my God. Reactions were just insane. I was, I was starting to get worried, and I was thinking, is she actually a doctor? Sound like she's a doctor. So I ended up calling my doctor in Boston, and I was like, hey, she's a little confused. She's wondering if maybe these are just absorbable stitches so she doesn't have to take a out. And the guy's like, absolutely not. You need to take them out right now.

Oh, shit.

And he's trying to, like, walk her through it. He's like, no, it's just one stitch that goes back and forth a few times, and then there's a knot at each end. And she was like, I don't understand what you're saying. She had no idea what my doctor was talking about.

You didn't see a doctor?

And she kept trying. She was having me reach around the back of my head, holding a flashlight on the back of my head. And then she would get mad at me when the flashlight drifted a little bit. I don't know. I can't see the back of my own head. So we do this for another 20 minutes. Then she asked me to call my doctor again because she's still confused. And she's like, yeah, I don't know how to take these out. And eventually my doctor had to be like, hey, pft, are you still in the room right now? And I'm like, yeah, I'm on speaker. He's like, I want to say this as diplomatically and professionally as possible. You might want to consider a different clinician to have this procedure done. So after about 45 minutes of her just, like, slicing into the back of my head, I had to stop her and say, okay, I think you're uncomfortable with this, and that's making me uncomfortable. So I'm going to go. Then she goes out, grabs a different doctor to come in. She's like, wait here just 1 second. The doctor looks at and he's like, yeah, these are just stitches.

And she's like, can you take them out? He's like, well, I'm with a patient right now, so I can't really take ten minutes out. And she's like, maybe on your lunch break you can do it. And this doctor is uncomfortable too. And he's like, yeah, I guess I can do it on my lunch break. And she was like, maybe I could watch so I could learn. And he's like, yeah, maybe so. She's like, okay, just come back in like 45 minutes and we'll take him out. And I was like, okay, bye. I go to the front desk and I said, hey, just tell her I'm not coming back. I'm leaving. And I just got the fuck out of there. And then, shit. Then I ended up actually getting it done here in Chicago once again. Got back and it took about seven minutes.

Oh, my God.

So I don't think the person, I think it was a catch me if you can situation where in her wildest dreams. She's pretending to be an urgent care doctor.

Stitches can't be that difficult.

They're not. Yeah, they're not, but for a while, they were. So just listen to yourself if you think, yeah, maybe I shouldn't be in this situation. But then again, she had, like, all these tools in the back of my head. I didn't want to just stand up and leave.

Yeah. But hell of a situation.

But besides that. Doing good. Good.

Yeah.

Jaden.

Yeah, you got Jaden and the stitches right here.

Yep.

All right.

I was actually a seam head for a while.

Yeah, my fyre fest is quick. It's Derrick Rose retired today, and that made me feel old and sad again for Derrick Rose's career. Yeah, that made me feel old.

Yeah, I saw that. And I thought that Derrick Rose had already retired.

Yeah, a lot of people did, because.

I think it was one of those rumors that the dunk sentence.

Yeah.

Would tweet out.

Yes.

Every six months. Like, Derek Rose has retired.

Yeah.

So I got. I got the exposure that. So in the back of my head, I thought, like, maybe Derrick Rose has already been retired, but, yeah, it doesn't. It's not right. It's not right what happened. Derek Rose.

No, it's. It's the. It's a all time what if. But, yeah, it was like he was so, so electric before he got injured and then injured again. And then injured again. But, yeah, it's. It's a what if, and it's also a damn. We're getting old.

Yeah.

Hank, I'm sure you appreciate that they were getting old.

I don't appreciate that. That means I'm getting old.

Ah, true. That's how time works. Memes, you got a fire fest for us?

My fire fest is if everybody hates the art. We just put out in the interview, and I order some jets gear to my house on Long island. Oh, that's tough.

Wait.

If I want to pay our editor enough money.

What?

Oh, yeah. Memes is lowballing our editor.

You see this?

No, I saw. Yeah.

What?

There was a job. A job list. Kind of viral for part of my take. Assistant editor, entry level. And I think the pay was, like, 65,000 a year.

Wait, people were roasting us?

Well, one, some guy tried to roast us. He posted the listing, which is just, like, a regular entry level editor position, which, by the way, like, I think I got paid no money, and then $20,000 for, like, three years, and he goes, like, 60k for one of the. For a billion dollar company. As if. How much money Barcelona makes.

Yeah.

What the fuck with how much at an editor should make?

Yeah.

Barstool is worth $1.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then there's a lot of people being like, this looks like, actually, like, pretty good. Pretty good job list.

Yeah. What's not?

Walk the parcels worth a dollar. Like, how about. So did he get roasted back single corporation.

Yeah.

You got. Because even, like, his friends online were like, that's not a bad salary for an entry level spot. And also.

Yeah.

You hit the value of a company somebody made the comparison to, like, you know how much McDonald's pays their employees.

Yeah. Or. Yeah. Like Walmart and Usher at Jerry's world.

Yeah.

Dallas Cowboys employee.

Yeah.

They get paid. What?

Yeah.

A fucking team worth $10 billion.

Yeah. But I think that's, from what I saw, that's a pretty fair. Yeah, it's entry level fair pay. Right. For that position.

And if you do a job, you get paid more.

What's meme saying?

It's kind of how it works. I'm not sure. Pug.

Yeah, it's fair. It's fair.

Pug.

Oh, I mean, you can't disagree with Pug. This fucking guy, Brandon. Fuck you, dude. You're gonna go against Pug? Get out of here, dude. Yeah. There it is.

Love it, pug.

All right, numbers Max is at another wedding. Pft and memes. Have you ever gotten this?

No.

I did.

Numbers. I've Jaden. Five.

Wednesday.

I've never gotten it. Three.

Let's go. 1D. Rose.

Let's go. 2099 per feeling. It's gonna be 99. This feels like a pug moment.

77. 77.

Love you guys.