Transcript of NFL Week 7, Deshaun Watson Goes Down, Lions Keep Rolling, Russell Wilson Is Back + Playoff Baseball And Who's Back

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That was a well timed what song spread. Wow. We linked up, huh? Boom. What'd they call co integrated in Detroit, where the offenses went golf. As Aaron Alex Jones said, I've got the touchdown documents right here. Starting the scoring for the Vikings in the first. It was a back and forth affair as Sonic and knuckles ran through the Vikings defense until David Montgomery got the coins hit out of him on way to an Ivan pace of play touchdown. The game came down to a decision by the psycho Dan Campbell to stay at the Bates Motel as Jake sealed it with his leg and the Lions are atop the NFC north. Lions 31, Vikings 29 we go down to Atlanta for a burn fight where the Seahawks may be beacon at the right time. Did Jason Tatum send a text before the game because Kobe Bryant picked off Kirk Cousins as Seattle went Mamba mentality.

On the Atlanta offense all afternoon.

Bijon Wilkes booth Robinson ruined a couple.

Really nice plays from the Seattle defense.

Running out of the pistol formation, but.

It wasn't enough as bus and with the boy a mafe undress, Kirk Cousins and the Falcons will need to see.

A tailor to get looking right again. The Seahawks 34, the Falcons 14. Up to the frozen tundra, where the packers wore their winter warning jerseys to welcome in 75 degree weather, Josh Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt. His name is my name, too. Whenever we go out, people always shout, there goes Josh Jacobs jingle Heimer into the end zone for a pass for the first time in his career. Joe was doing mix on it, scoring two touchdowns, while Tucker Robert Kraft ran a nice rub route for a tug and got some love in the end zone from his quarterback. With the time winding down, Brandon Walker McManus staved off a migraine due to the sunny conditions and mild weather and won the game for the Packers. Green Bay 24, Houston 22 to western New York, where, in honor of Josh.

Allen's 100th career start, the Bills acquired.

Super a Mario brothers Cooper, who took a page out of the Aaron Rodgers.

Playbook, eating some mushrooms, making the Buffalo.

Offense look a lot bigger and stronger. The Bills defense came out in the second half looking very damar, very mindful.

As Hamlin got an interception and they shut down Mason.

Big country Kyle Rudolph going 100 in the game. No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills as I score 34 straight. The Bills 34, the titans ten. We go across the pond to Henry Lockwood from London.

What's up?

Boom, dude.

Head over to Wembley Stadium, where Drake Maggie Mae made a first class fool out of the Jaguars defense in his first drive, capping it with a touchdown to Jimmy Cormie Hasty Brian Thomas Shelby. I dont know whether to go Boomers or british. He had no limitations in the second quarter scoring on a six yard touchdown.

And much like his namesake, the british centurion tank Bixby dominated the competition, scoring.

Two touchdowns and making the Patriots wave the white flag. Jaguar 32, Patriots 16.

Thanks, Henry. Thanks, Henry. And also thanks, boom. And also thanks, british boom. Thanks, british boom. We head back stateside to the Meadowlands, where Max is live for the Eagles and Giants. In his return to MetLife rich, Homie.

Suycoon said, let me flex on the Giants. AJ said, what can brown do for you? As the touchdown delivery was expedited on fourth and three from 40 yards out. Finally, Bryce huffed and puffed and blew.

Daniel Jones down to get one of the Eagles eight sacks of the day. Eagles dominate 28 three. Thanks, Max. Back. Also stateside in San Francisco, where the purdy little lie going around the league is that the Niners are still good. Kareem Bergen, Huntin Fish club said. Murder. What murder? As he ran for two scores through the San Fran defense. Patri Patrick daylight coming. Me want to go Mahomes stumbled and bubbled for a long run and telling everyone to read a book. Andy off a buy is free money. I wish I learned that lesson beforehand. Boom.

It's coming up on Halloween, his most favorite time of year.

Boom. Chiefs 28, niners 18. Murderous. What matter? We go over to Indianapolis, where Anthony Etha Richardson is stealing money from my good friend billionaire Jim Arsai. Don't tell Rob Schneider, but there was a boil spill as Tim came in relief for Tyler Huntley.

He's not that old.

He's John New, as Smith scored to.

Take an early lead, but the Colts had something to be on. Say about it as Matt gay my.

Name gay, my name had three field.

Goals and Alec Baldwin.

Engle isn't technically liable, but he did.

Drop the ball when he took a.

Shot at a big play. Colts 16, the Dolphins ten. Standing on the corner, James Winston, Cuyahoga. Such a fine sight to see. TTR, my Lord Jamus.

Only for use in case of emergency.

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Yeah.

Very fun early slate, though.

Yeah, it was pretty good. It's pretty good. We had some, some witching hour drama, some back and forth. What about the early, early slate?

Yeah.

Well, the London slate.

Let's start with that game. Jaguars 32, Patriots 16. Good news for Doug Peterson. I'm a fucking moron because I think I, I watched the, I watched the opening drive for the Patriots. They scored. It looked like there were some business decisions happening on the Jaguars defense. And I was like, Doug Peterson is so fired. And then I forgot that the Patriots also stink. And Trevor Lawrence ended up looking great, and they.

So did Brian Thomas.

Brian Thomas might be the best rookie wide receiver now that Malik neighbors missed a couple games. Marvin Harrison is like, either he scores four or three touchdowns or doesn't catch a ball.

Yep.

Brian Thomas is the real deal. Looking awesome. But, yeah, the Patriots stink. And hank, bad news. Gerard Mayo, use the s word, called your team soft.

They were soft. Is that, is that a bad thing?

Said, we're, we're a soft football team across the board. We talked about what makes a tough football team, and that's being able to run the ball, being able to stop the run, and that's being able to cover kicks. We did none of those. Is it, are you saying, is it a bad thing to be a soft football team?

No, I don't think it's a, like, he's, he's, he's a, he's right.

Yeah. No, he's correct in what he's saying, but it's always a bad thing to have it be said.

It's a bad reflection on his coaching that the team that he coaches is soft.

He also, our good friend Fidelberg pointed this out to me last week, and I've been monitoring it. Gerard Mayo is, I think, the heir apparent to Jim Caldwell. Is he alive on the sidelines? Because his face never changes.

Yeah, he just kind of stares off into the distance. I agree with Hank. I don't think that he is. I don't. He's not wrong. It's early to be pressing the s button, though.

Yeah.

Well, this could. What's that old. The old saying. It's like, hard times create soft people.

Yeah.

Soft people create soft times. Soft times create hard people.

Yeah.

So you better hope that you're. That's where you.

Hard times.

No, soft times creates. Wait, wait. Soft times create soft people. Soft people create hard times.

Hard times. Hard times.

Hard times create hard people. You better hope that's where you're at.

Yeah.

Is the hard times. Are you got. Are your guys getting harder?

They need to get harder.

Feels like we're getting softer.

Softer is not good.

I know.

Cause that's soft people. Which then leads to hard times.

He's also defensive coach, defensive player when he played, and the defense is the softest of them all.

You're in the.

You got a soft d. Yeah.

In this. Super soft. In this entire length. You're this. You're soft people creating hard times for yourself. But we haven't had hard people created out of those hard times. Yeah.

I mean, it's a process.

Yeah.

You got to get a hard guy. You got to draft a hard guy in the draft.

Do you think.

Well, Jerry Jones to take a look at him.

He'll tell you Drake may look good.

Drake May did look good.

Yeah. So that's. And that's really all that matters outside of being a soft football team. But, yeah, you lost to the Jaguars, who were.

Got smoked by.

The Jaguars look like they were ready to quit, ready to fire Doug Peterson and. But Drake may look good. That's where you have to. Just when you put your head down on your pillow at night, you should be like, Drake may look good.

Yeah. Losing the London game first thing in the morning is just. No. No fun way to start a football Sunday.

Yeah.

It's not.

No. It just puts you in, like, a bummer mood just to right out of the gate.

There is a way for soft teams to win in the NFL, though, if you just embrace the gunslinger mentality of Drake May.

Yeah.

You just spread them out. Tell me. Oh, to put the spread on shootouts.

I don't know. That we're not shootout team. We got it. We got to go through some more hard times so that we can create hard people.

What would you say, though, now, losing the Jaguars is definitely bad because the Jaguars are bad. But wouldn't this. You don't really want to win football games, right? No. You kind of want to lose and get the number one pick and take Travis Hunter, probably, but you. You, like. You just want. Drake made a look good, and he did, and he looked good.

So the first drive is exciting. It was like, all that. Let's go.

Yeah.

First thing in the morning. Happy Jaguars quit.

Yeah. And then they didn't quit. And credit to you, Hank, he did call the trap game correctly.

Yeah.

The Jaguars is as bad as the Jaguars are. They're better than the Patriots definitively.

And they were acclimated, and they were.

Acclimated, and Trevor Lawrence did look good. He had one of his best games of the season. Tank Bigsby, absolute monster. Do you know Tank Bigsby's real name?

Yeah, I heard it this morning.

It's. It's somehow so Tank Bigsby was. Was named Tink Bigsby because it. It's a classic story that you could have. You could have just. You knew it before you even read it. His dad, basically, he just ran around when he was a little kid and, like, bumped into things.

I was gonna get fine. I was gonna guess grandmother.

Yeah, it was. I think it was aunt and dad. We, like, he would just run into things and then shake it off. So he became Tank and. But his real name is actually somehow even better than Tank. Tank as his nickname, which, Tank Bigsby deserves more credit for being one of the coolest names in the NFL. His real name is cartavious.

Cartavius is pretty solid. Yeah.

That's fucking awesome. You don't like it? Max?

It's not better than Tank.

I mean, Tank obviously is a great name, but cartavious is a great name. Card cartivius b.

He's Cardi b. Yeah, Cardi b.

He is Cardi b.

But it's tank Bigsby.

I understand. They know Tank Bakesby deserves more credit for being, one, a good football player, and, two, having maybe top three name in the NFL.

It's pretty solid. And I think we've been saying for the last few weeks that he looks better than Travis at end does.

Yeah, right.

Like, pretty. Pretty much consistently, at least for this season. And then we know that Doug Peterson appears to lie before games and then tell the truth after games.

Yeah.

So after the truth after this game, they asked him if Tank was going to replace Etienne, and he said, I don't think so. I'm a believer where injury doesn't replace your position. I think you have to have a fair competition. Tank has done some good things. Obviously, we're going to continue to find ways to put the ball in his hands, too. I disagree with that. I think that injury can absolutely, 100% change things up, especially when the guy that comes in for the injured guy is better than the injured guy. When the injured guy wasn't injured.

And his name's Tank Bigsby and his.

Name is Cartavius Bigby.

Cartavius Tank Bigsbye. Bigsby doesn't get enough credit either.

No, Bigby's great.

Bigsby's a great name. I just looked at the name Tank Bigsby for a while when I was taking notes. I was like, damn, we don't talk enough about how awesome this name is. And he was awesome. He had 118 yards be sounds English.

Yeah, I heard his name.

Yeah. Auburn.

Yep. Because Auburn played Penn State in a non conference game. I was like, who the fuck is Tank?

Tank.

Yeah.

It was like early in the season and it was. I.

Maybe one of the coolest running back names since Cadillac Williams.

The NFL has a surplus of tanks right now.

Yeah, tank tell.

Maybe next game is going to be in the Ukraine, overseas.

Who will fund it?

Send them there.

Yeah, the, so the Jags survived the, like, Doug Peterson fire game because he was going to get fired in this game if he lost it. Did you, have you guys looked at the JAG schedule coming up?

Yes, because they're dead there.

He's going to get fired very soon. They're playing the packers. They, first of all, they don't have a bye week until week twelve. I think they probably just said, we're good. We don't need a bye week after the London game. But they're playing the packers at the Eagles. Vikings, Lions, Texans. That's their next five games. Yeah.

So if you're Doug Peterson, just, just close your eyes and enjoy this win.

Thank God you won this game. Actually, maybe not. Maybe he wishes he lost this game because the next five games are going to be torture.

That way he can be like, it wasn't my fault. Look what we're doing.

Yeah. Cause there's no way that they could have fired him and then gotten a bump against the Packers. Eagles, Vikings, Lions and Texans. And been like, oh, they, it was Doug Peterson's fault.

Yeah, that's true. So if you're Doug, I, they always say like, I wish there was a way to know that you're in the good old days when you're in them right now, Doug, you have to take this entire flight back, get hammered, drink all the free drinks, go into the office next week, just like, take a bunch of the snacks that they have set out, stuff them in your pockets, steal from the facility, because you're probably not going to come back. And in a matter of probably, I'd say, like three weeks, probably two weeks maybe.

Doug Peterson is at the point right now of every single one of my weekends on Saturday morning when I'm like, what if I just get super hot and just win all my bets? He's two and five, and he's like, what if we just run the table here?

Two and five looks good.

Two and five is a lot better than one in six, but it's not going to happen. Just like, I'm never going to do that. Doug Peterson is not going to run the table. But you have to at least sit in that moment all week and just embrace it and be like, you don't know what's going to happen. You don't know if I can just win everything.

You never know. He might have changed. Yeah. So chap sent this to me. The sad Jaguars out of the week. The Jaguars, 22 points that they scored in the first half is their. Their highest total in a first half since 2017. It's been a minute. That is time. If you're a Jags fan, enjoy this. I don't think it's going to make much of a difference on what happens in the future of the team, specifically their coach, by the end of the year, but it's. It's always better to see in front of essentially your home fans.

Yeah.

Over in England, you get a win.

Yeah. You got to win. And, Hank, you got to start your day watching a soft football team. But again, you knew.

Fun first drive.

You knew. Yeah, it's Drake May. That's it. That's all that matters this year for you, Drake May, and then you fix everything. Is Gerard Mayo the guy, though?

No.

Yeah, so I know he was getting criticized for the two point conversion. When they scored, they were down 15. He. They went for two. They scored a touchdown, went for two, didn't get it with ten minutes left, basically ending the game because they then needed to score twice.

Is that not what you're supposed to do in that situation?

No.

Time.

The thing we always talk about, I. I think you go either way with that one. The four down 14 is what we always talk about. Because it's still a one possession game whether you get it or not. They didn't get the two point conversion, so as a nine point game. So they needed to get a score, a stop, a score, and then a stop and a score. Whereas if they had just kicked the extra point and they're down eight, you can at least tell your huddle, hey, all we need is a stop and a score. I don't know. I always go back and forth because you kind of wish you knew what you have to get. But I also understand, for a soft football team, you probably want to keep them mentally in it as long as they possibly can.

That's the argument, is you. You want to know if you have to go for two now or later and or if you're gonna make your two point conversion. I'd rather have that information as early, early as possible so you can play, not the rest of the game. The problem is, when your offense stinks and you haven't really done much, is it actually that much more of a likelihood that you will get two more scores in the fourth quarter when you haven't scored since the second quarter to begin with?

And when you have a soft football team, you probably want to use every advantage to keep them mentally locked.

This is one of those debates and arguments that I saw online, and I gotta say, I think both sides are right.

I do, too.

I think both sides are 100% correct on this.

I think it completely depends on your.

Football team, because you have the math people that have run these games in a simulation and the logic. If you're like a game theory guy, it makes sense. I understand it. But also, if you're just a football guy that hates computers and stats, and you hear that argument, you're like, that's pussy football. And I'm like, yeah, he's kind of right.

And it's not. It's not remotely close to our. Hank was just laughing at that on site kick attempt by the 49 ers. We're taping a little early so we can let memes watch the jets, the endomets. It's not the down 14, going for two conversation. I understand that math. And that also is you don't change the fact that it's still a one score game.

Settled.

Speaker three. This is down 15. Going for two. You changed the fact that you now have a two score game versus a one score game.

Yep.

Yep.

And I don't think if he had not done what he did, if he had just kicked a field goal or kicked the extra point, I would absolutely not have a problem with that. I don't think it was one of these no brainer situations.

We also had the longest international touchdown and also the first ever special teams touchdown from Parker Washington. The 96 yard punt return, which. That's kind of crazy.

That's great because the people over in England, they love the kicking game. If you put a ball in your hand and you kick it, they will stand up and cheer for you. And to get to see one run back over there, that was two great plays and one for them.

I'm hoping there was at least one guy in the stands. Like, I didn't even know you could do that.

Yeah.

I've been coming to these games for 20 years and it never happened.

That's amazing.

Yeah. You didn't golf today?

No.

Okay.

That was. It was a beautiful.

It was beautiful. We thought you had maybe golfed and done the phone watching, which I would. Would have been totally fine because if you have a soft football team, that's.

No, I'm a committed fan. I was up early. I watched the whole whole game. And then after halftime, I wish I was golfing, but I wasn't.

I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to really look into this Gerard Mayo being dead or alive, because he is, he potentially is the heir apparent to Jim Caldwell.

Do you think that the team is. Has made you soft as a fan, Hank? No, the Patriots never made you soft.

Maybe just by the. So many good times, I guess. Yeah. In the analogy. Analogy of good times, we had the best times.

So you. You're the softest man?

Softest fan. Yeah.

Me.

Oh, you're the softest fan out of.

Out of the people in this. In this room full of losers and hard times.

Yeah.

Big cat are hardest men.

Hard people.

Do you feel like this experience is making you harder?

Are you getting harder right now as we talk to you?

Are you just kind of checked out and accepting like. It happens to a lot of fan bases. I guess it's just my turn.

Are you able to get harder anymore?

I don't know where it's gonna. It's been a while since I haven't been able to get hard. I think it's more what you said. It's. Every fan base has to go through with this at some point. You can't win forever.

Yeah.

And Drake may drink.

Just gotta keep like, you just need to keep saying to yourself, Drake May. Drake may have looked good in the first two games that he's started. And that's all that matters for you right now and nothing else.

Christian Gonzalez, stud. Like, you gotta start on the offense. Tell the defense builder. You can build. You can build around that.

Yeah. You just need 20 more guys.

And a coach.

And a coach.

Bunch more studs, and then hanks gonna get hard again.

Is there a chance Gerard Mayo gets fired?

No, I think he's kind of. The crafts.

Yeah, but the. But, but we're in. The craft is in his. He might be in his Jerry Jones era, where he's gonna get like a. I'm not gonna live forever. I need it now.

But he already. Yeah, he already had been that long.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Robert Kraft actually did it. Right. Like winning that many Super Bowls closer to whenever he passes away, versus Jerry Jones, who had to win the Super Bowls and then live for 30 years more watching his team not win.

Yeah. The legacy is kind of finalized on Robert Kraft.

Yeah, he's good. He's good.

So. Yeah, this. It's a tough spot for him because to fire may would be like, yeah, I made a terrible, terrible mistake directly on him and, and maybe negatively affect his hall of fame induction that he's planning on also.

I mean, it's brutal for Mayo. Just, like, having to follow Bill Belichick.

Yeah.

Like, that's. I. I mean, you get, like, Gerard Mayo saying, we're soft football team. Bill Belichick would never, have never coached a soft football team.

I think Belichick would say that to his team, but he would never.

He would never say publicly. Right. And he never actually thinking truly.

I think he would. I think he would think it truly. I. Even in the midst of the dynasty, he was probably like, you guys are playing, like, a bunch of soft.

Soft.

Yeah.

He's probably said it when they. When they've lost before.

Sure. Yeah, I think so. But then the.

But he also knew that it was relative that, like, comparatively, they weren't actually that soft. Now.

It would be a soft move on May.

He was saying he was calling them soft in the media to get them mad. Mayo's just like saying they're soft because they're soft.

Yeah, but it would be a bad move for Mayo to call them soften just to the media and not say it to their faces.

Yeah.

It'd be a good move for Belichick to call them soft to the media in order to light a fire into their ass.

Right. Yeah. You hope Mayo says that in the locker room, too. Not, don't come back. Like, what? I don't know what I said.

He did say it so there was a couple guys on the team that said, yeah, I mean, he wouldn't say anything to you guys that he hasn't said to us. So he did say that.

And then.

And then Jalen Polk, he's got some issues. A lot of drops with his hands and with his feet.

Then rookie, though.

Just rookie. But then after the game, do you see what you put up on instagram?

Oh, no.

He just put up a black screen.

Right.

With hand emojis.

Yeah. Do you know what the hand emoji was doing?

Praying?

No, no, not praying.

Catching a football. Dropping a football.

First of all, it was the dot, dot, dot, and then the peace sign.

Oh.

Like, see, I'm out of here.

Well, you could be saying goodbye to London.

He probably met someone in London.

Met somebody in London.

Yeah. He's like sealer.

That is.

I was fun. Churchill's 48 hours.

Didn't they invent the. The peace sign is actually for victory in England. Right. They started that in World War Two.

The USC Trojans started.

That's true. Yeah.

Yeah.

We're just going to zero dark 31.

Yeah. Okay. A great game to start the early slate. Lions 31. Vikings 29. This game fucking rocked. You knew this game was going to be awesome when Dan Campbell decided to start the game with a fake punt from his own 30. That didn't work on a fourth and seven, but the Lions end up winning. The Lions are. It's crazy to think that, like, the Vikings started five and oh, go into the bye week, five and oh, and then come right out of the bye week, and now they're second place in the NFC north.

It is.

Yeah.

I mean, that division just continues to be awesome because the packers won again, too. But nothing to hang your head about if you're a Vikings fan.

Right.

You would like to win this game, obviously, because it means a lot in the division. But in terms of, like, how you played, Sam Darnold didn't have his. His best first half, but he looked pretty good in the second half.

Yeah. Yeah. I think. You don't hang your head. You just realize that the Lions are really goddamn good. And it's got to be frustrating as hell. Cause you have to play perfect football. You have to play perfect defensive football against the Lions to beat them. And they even got a defensive touchdown, and it wasn't enough. And they got that, you know, punt, the fake punt, which was gifted them a touchdown for Aaron Jones in the first quarter. Jared golf, though, is playing out of his mind. He is. In this last four game stretch. He's 76 for 91,086 yards, nine touchdowns and one interception. The last two guys who have had a three game streak of 140 plus passing rated passer rating was Aaron Rodgers in 2011 when he won an MVP, and Kurt Warner in 1999 when he won an MVP. Jared Goff, plus 850 on draftkings. Sportsbook for MVP. Just saying that. I love that for draft. You have it better, right? Preseason, he's been. He's been lights out. And it was crazy, too, because Brian Flores tried to blitz and, you know, do his tricks at him, and he was. It didn't work.

Like they. Jared was 13 for 15, 163 yards in a touchdown against the blitz was carving him up. Big play after big play. And yeah, this game, I mean, it just showed that both these teams are really fucking good.

They're both really good. And Brian Branch, that dude is so much fun to watch on defense.

Yeah, that interception he made, he is so good.

Like that diving play that he had with a little green mouthpiece sticking out of his helmet. That dude has become one of my favorite guys to watch on defensive side of the ball. And that's. I don't think, again, I don't think that they're in a good spot because of the loss of Hutchinson, but I do think that they have enough good players on their defense where it won't preclude them from making a Super Bowl. I think that they're good enough to get through that. And again, like Campbell, he's the king of, like, talking about adversity, manufacturing adversity. Sometimes this is a real piece of adversity that they have to get through. Yeah, I feel like there's no better coach than Dan Campbell to get you through it.

Their offense is hell. Their offense is hell to deal with. Every guy, every single guy is a guy.

Sonic and knuckles.

Yes, Sonic and knuckles. That was a very serious Schefter report early this morning that Jamir Gibbs and David Montgomery would like to be called Sonic and knuckles.

Which one's Sonic, which one's not?

I believe. I believe Jamerrill Gibbs is Sonic.

That makes sense. Sonic is a little bit bigger and he's faster. Yeah.

And we did it. Yeah. So I think that's. I believe that's what it is. Gibbs did have a 45 yard touchdown run, which made him look like Sonic.

Yeah, that was sick.

That's pretty cool, though, to be called son. It's. It's cooler than thunder and lightning. Cuz Thunder and Lightning has been done a million times. And they're not a true thunder and lightning.

They're not. I like the, the old Tennessee Titans when it was Lindale White and Reggie Bush, and they called themselves eat and run.

Oh, I like that.

Yeah, that was good, too.

Yes.

When Lindell was in his fat era.

Yeah, Lindell White, tough to bring down, but yeah, this game, the Lions, the Lions offense is just. I don't really know what you can do. You can't, you can't, you can't beat.

Them for four quarters because up front they can, they can bully you off the line of scrimmage. They've got two weapons at running back. They've got MVP Jared Goff, and then they've got a great tight end and then three at the, at minimum. Very good wide receiver.

Yeah. Tim Patrick is, has. We said it last week, but he is walked into that Josh Reynolds role perfectly, and, and it all works. And Dan Campbell's a psycho. And it was I. Speaking of Aiden Hutchinson, by the way, I love that the Lions had a report out that, so, first of all, he had no nerve or ligament damage, which is very good. But then there was the report, which I love. Whenever this happens, it's a four to six month recovery, and the Super bowl would be just shy of four months. So they said that if the Lions make the Super bowl, don't rule out him being able to come back. I'm going to say right now, I'm going to rule him out coming back. But I love whenever this happens for a fan base because you got to give that glimmer of hope. That's a very nice glimmer of hope they've given them. Like, just throw it out there. It just makes you feel a little bit better. We all know the truth. He's not going to come back, but it doesn't matter. Still say there's a chance.

I could see Dan Campbell using a roster spot on him, though, and then making him captain.

Yeah.

And then never having him in the game. But he's on the sidelines in full pads.

Right. I mean, he's just, you're asking him to come back from a severely broken leg in less time than what it should be and be effective. But again, doesn't matter. You got to still. You got to still give him that hope. It's basically the dumb and dumber that you're saying. There's a chance. Speaker two.

Yeah, I guess technically there is. But would you want him back if you're a Lions fan?

No, I want.

Because you'd probably get like 40% Aidan Hutchinson with a good chance of him doing something bad to either that same leg or his other leg overcompensating. Or you could just not play him and take the fact that you could still make the Super bowl out.

Right. No, I don't want him back. I want the idea that he could be back. Because in your head, when you hear that, you think of Aidan Hutchinson picking up exactly where he left off, where he was going to probably be defensive player of the year. And that's a really cool thing to just have in your head, even though it's fantasy land. We all live in fantasy land. We all like to live to jump into fantasy land every now and then and just be like, yeah, we could, could be the biggest free agent signing ever in Super bowl by week.

You get the. Yeah. The defensive player of the year back.

Yeah.

I saw some, some rumor out there that they had either inquired about or the Saints were considering trading chase young. Let me tell you, if you are the Detroit Lions, you don't want that. No, you don't want chase. He looks awesome. Chase Young is probably the guy who looks the coolest and looks the most athletic compared to what he actually does on the field.

Correct.

I don't think that that would fit well in that system.

We were, we were having that debate the other day. It. Sean Oakman was the other name thrown out there.

Yeah. For like what he looks like versus production from what he actually is.

Right.

I feel like Chase Young is tops in the NFL that right now.

Yeah. By the way, I just want to do breaking moves real quick because this should actually be breaking. Hank is just alerted to me. We do barstool sports advisors every single week. Stu and Stu and myself. And then this week we had a picks competition between Brandon and Jerry. So it's four of us picking games. We pick five games heading into Sunday night football. The entire panel is a combined Owen 16.

That rocks.

That is a historic, historic moment. That's hard to do. That's just as hard as 16. You know, might be just as hard.

As different people, too.

That's just as hard as 16.

So who has, you would think someone would pick the opposite of the other person. Like, that person's wrong, the other person's right.

So who. But no, what do you guys have for tonight's game?

I have dealers.

I have the jets.

Oh, I'm on the steelers.

So I don't know, you might not want to take the Steelers now. I'm statistically do.

Yeah, but I mean, when you're hot, you're hot. When you're cold, you're cold.

We actually. So the only way, because it's the three of us and we all pick different things. The only way. Brandon, I have opposite sides. He has the Steelers. So I guess there's. There's going to be at least one winner. There's.

What's the spread?

One and a half is what we had on Wednesday.

So you're going to go one in 17.

We're going to go. Well, no, Jerry has the under, so.

Okay.

We could put, we could put two together. We get. Because it could go under and jets or under and Steelers. And could get two full wins. That's incredible. What a day. I knew, too, going into this week, I was like, I had a great week last week. I'm gonna suck this week.

I think on Friday show. We actually said at the start of the show, if you did well last year, just don't bet.

This week still jumps right in. Yeah, still jumped right in. Okay, anything else?

Hats off to Vegas.

Hats off to Vegas.

They did it again, you guys.

You know what you're doing. By the way, shout out to Jake Bates, the kicker for the Lions, who, first of all, he did after he kicked the game winning field goal. He did the boom. The big justice aJ boom dance, which is. That's the new touchdown dance or field goal dance. He also had this to say afterwards. He said, 18 months ago, I thought I was done with football. I was working as a brick salesman in Houston.

That's a good line. That's a good line of business to be in. Good for him and Mincey, both brick salesman.

Brick salesman pays well.

Yeah.

But, yeah, that's pretty cool story.

How do you. How do you sell bricks? I mean, I know how you sell one kind of them, but.

Yeah, I think it's probably, I don't know the strength of them. Like, you probably have some bricks that are stronger than others.

Yeah. It's like you just show up and you're like, do you want the good bricks or you want the bad bricks?

Yeah. Here, take my knife. Yeah, try this brick and.

Yeah, it's like the Cutco salespeople. Yeah, you bring a hammer, you're like, try to break this brick. Yeah, you can't.

Can't do it. Okay, next game, packers. Oh, by the way, both these teams, I feel like, are gonna go to the playoffs, and both these teams are very, very good. So I'm not. I like vikings as much as that game, probably suck, especially the way it went down that you were up late and you, you get that David Montgomery fumble and you're like, holy shit, we're gonna win this game. Because it flipped back and forth constantly. It was like, vikings up, big lions come back up. Big vikings back up. And then lions win the game late. But I think both these teams are both very good teams.

What if once a year, Brian Flores was like, you know what? I'm not going to blitz at all this week. They expect me to blitz on, like, 60% of the plays. I'm just not going to do it. Yeah, we're just going to run base.

That was, I was saying, fuck you up. If I were a head coach, I would fake punt every single time until the playoffs, and then I would start real punting like Jared go and would.

Expect would run play action. He. He turns his back to the line of scrimmage. He fakes the handoff, and then he turns around expecting it to be a blitz, and he's like, what the fuck? There's so many guys out there.

Yeah.

It would make him think for a second.

Yeah, that's true. Also, Ben Johnson, I forgot to mention this. He was asked, I think it was midweek, someone asked him about like, hey, did you, do you feel like you emptied the playbook a little too much against the Cowboys? He was like, the well is very deep.

I love that.

We were good.

We're going to get really fucking weird.

We're going to get weird. He's like, don't worry.

Let's see.

This thing is unlimited. He's got an unlimited coffee, cup of. Yeah, here it is. Ben Johnson on trick plays. I'm not worried about putting things on tape. If anything, it's going to set up the next thing down the road. The well is deep.

I love that. So, yeah, so they're going to have Panay Sewell, then lateral ball after he.

Catches the another lineman.

Yeah, I love that. So they're playing the lion or they're playing the Titans at home. Do you feel like that's a. Let's get freaky with a game?

No, that's just run. Run the straight shit and just fuck them up.

Lions at packers. That might be a freaky game.

That might be a freak.

And then lines at lines of Texans, to me, feels like a very freaky because they're going back to Texas.

Yeah. And they're like, oh, we always get close enough to Cowboys. Yeah, we got to really make their, their cousins feel it, too.

Something in the air down here gets me all riled up.

All right, speaking of Packers 24, Texans 22, meet Max. Not over uniforms.

They looked like over uniforms for, like, the whole entire fucking game.

I think they scored 33 points in the first half.

It was crazy. They were scoring so many points.

And then the Texans. The Texans offensive line is bad. CJ Shroud was not good today. But I also can say that I'm not, I'm not going to say CJ Shroud's bad. I think he's got some issues, but he was under attack. It felt like on every single play. And then we also had at the end of the game, Tameko Ryan's and Bobby Slowick with some head scratching clock management play calling to end the game because they basically decided to settle for a field goal when there was a minute and 45 seconds left and didn't make the packers burn all three of their timeouts. If you're going to do the hey, let's run it up the gut for no yards, you got to make sure they at least burn all their time out. You got to commit one way or the other. They ran it up the gut two times for no yards and then ran an out route that in best case scenario, he catches. I don't remember who is targeting. That might have been Diggs, me. Might have been take Dale. In the best case scenario, he catches him and goes out of bounds and you still don't burn all their timeouts.

Yeah, it was very bizarre at the end of the game there. I think the Texans will be okay because their defense is very, very banged up. So, yeah, I wouldn't have, and again, I kind of put this in the same box as I put the Vikings loss in. It's like you lost, you lost a tough game against a good opponent. You probably did a couple things that screwed yourself over a little bit.

I just, I would, if I were Texans fan sitting there watching the end of that game, I would be very frustrated with the way that they managed the end of the game because it was, you know, that Jordan love is good enough to take them down the field for a field goal if that's all he needs. You got to try to score a touchdown. And I get it. Like you're, you're also trying to get them to burn timeouts, but get a little bit creative where they, it felt like they just threw away the first and second down plays.

Maybe they watched a lot of tape on the packers and they said, we don't really care if Jordan Love's going to drive down the field for a field goal because they're going to miss the field goal. But they got forgetting the fact that they got Brandon McManus, who actually is able to make field goals. And I think. Did their old kicker miss an extra point today?

Did he? Where is he now?

I think he did. Is that Andersen?

Is he on a team I think picked up?

I think so.

All right. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He's on the Niners. Yeah, he did. He missed an extra point.

Yeah. So there you go. So I think they just got caught watching tape from the packers games of old and didn't realize they got a new kicker.

Yeah, I just. That was a, that was a winnable game for the Texans at the end, and they weren't able to do it. They ran the ball. Joe Mixon is really fucking good. And when they get Nico Collins back. But that was a measuring stick game and they failed the measuring stick. I know they're banged up, but their offensive line is a problem.

Okay. So in the second half, you shot.

Through for 86 yards.

This is kind of a recurring theme for the Texans and also, I think, a recurring theme for the packers, that the Texans second half offense is atrocious. They're really bad with the exception of last week. Last week they scored 27 points, but before that, like they've been dog shit in the second half. And the packers defense has been lights out in the second half.

Yup.

You just got second half.

Yeah, you got second half. You got second half.

86 yards is shocking, though, for CJ Stroud.

Jordan Love, yet very shocking. Jordan Love is just Brett Favre. And I know that that, that's actually a bad thing because Brett Favre obviously is a Hall of Famer, won MVP's, won a Super bowl, but Jordan Love, now we still have to play the Monday night game with Baker Mayfield, but Jordan Love has missed two games this year. He leads the league in touchdowns and interceptions.

That's cool.

15 touchdowns, seven intercepts.

That's very cool.

I. Maybe there's maybe. Did Mahomes throw a second one? I don't know. But either way, he leads it. He's tied, I think, with Baker with 15 touchdown passes. But that's. He is Brett Favre. And he missed two games. He's missed two games this year.

I got a question for you, big cat. Are interceptions good now?

I like my quarterbacks to throw at least one or two.

Are they good? Are they the best thing? Cause I'm going to look up right now who's leading the league in interceptions from the quarterback position. Is it Patrick Mahomes?

Still Patrick? Well, no, it's Jordan Love.

Yeah, Jordan Love. Why am I an asshole?

Because you just talk about how bad Jalen Hurts is when he throws interceptions.

I would know. We would. We're consistent on this show.

Yeah. We would never do that.

So Patrick, well, also.

That doesn't sound like us.

Also, listen, that was like two months ago. Those preseason max doesn't make a difference. We're talking regular season, started throwing a lot. We're talking regular season ball.

Kept saying how.

But here's how it works.

Well, it's also the fumbles.

Here's how it works. When, when Patrick Mahomes starts doing a lot of anything, that thing actually becomes good.

Yeah.

So Patrick Mahomes hadn't shown us the light that interceptions were good. When Jalen hurts was doing it not because he wanted to be like more like Patrick Mahomes, but just because he was a bad quarterback.

Yeah, he's showing us the new way to do this. Aaron Rodgers started throwing interceptions just this year.

Great quarterback, great quarterback.

Had a thousand stats about it.

About what?

Aaron Rogers throwing picks.

Yeah, they were mean. He's probably trying to copy Patrick Mahomes, who's a trailblazer and Jordan love is caught onto the new Trent.

But I also like the fact that Josh Allen refuses to go with the trends. Yeah, he's a man's man. He's a man of principles. He walks alone and he'll stand by himself because he believes in it. Yeah, but, yeah, that's a man of conviction.

Jordan loves. I mean, he's, he fills up the stat sheet. He throws, picks, throws touchdowns. I. So how would you power rank the NFC north right now in terms of confidence to go deep in the playoffs? I will. I am very, I'll be very unbiased. I think the Bears have the longest shot. I'm not, I'm not fooling myself.

I would say Lions number one.

Yeah.

And then I would say, I think I'm going to say the packers number two.

Right. Isn't it crazy?

The Vikings number three. But the thing is, I wouldn't be shocked if the packers played against the Vikings in the playoffs and knocked them out. Barely.

But I'm just saying it's crazy that the Vikings were five and, oh, going into this week and the NFC north is good. Is so good that I would rank them third in terms of confidence to make a deep run.

But still, could they make the NFC championship game? Absolutely.

Yeah.

I just think that it would probably.

Be against the Lions.

Against the Lions or the Packer. I think the Lions would beat them whichever team has home field in the NFC championship game. If there's two NFC north teams playing each other. That's the team I'm going to go with.

The packers defense is very good. They, I mean, they were all over CJ Stroud all afternoon.

This is why you should tell coaches to fuck off when they tell you that it takes several years to turn a team around.

Yeah.

The defense just went from being just absolute garbage over the last couple seasons to being very, very good now.

Yeah. No, Jeff Hafley is, has got them humming. And Romeo Dobbs also. It feels like they figured that out because he had two, two catches, I think, on the field goal drive to end the game. That were huge, including one that I still don't know if he caught or fumbled or both.

Yeah. No one knows. No one knows. It was impossible to tell.

I also don't know if that was, was a challenge or not. Here's a little tip. And if we have him back on, we did love having him on and I think he is a good coach. You just, in a tight game, you can never go home with two timeouts in your back pocket.

Mm hmm.

Because that, that's such an easy way for idiots like us to be like, bro, two timeouts in your back pocket.

Even though at the end we're trying to get them to bleed more of the clock. So you weren't going to use your.

Time, but then when the packers have the ball, try to use maybe a timeout so that you get a shot back.

At the very least, maybe take a timeout so you can take a look at what they're doing on just anything.

Just slow it down for a second. I do like, they used one timeout.

To ice icing the icing at the end.

Yeah. Also, we should have mentioned Josh Jacobs. Congratulations. He caught a touchdown pass.

He did. Shocking that he hasn't done that yet.

211 receptions, 1556 yards before he caught his first touchdown pass.

And then the other running back, touchdown story, Joe Mixon. Joe Mixon scores a touchdown, jumps into the stands, does a lambo leap in the end zone. The fan, I thought was completely within his rights.

Correct.

To push him back, right?

Yeah. Well, packers fans are scumbags. We all know that.

Fans, probably an owner. So that's technically kind of his stadium. So you can, you can keep a man out of your house if you want to. He shoved him back, that fan, then got ejected from the game.

He did.

I don't, I don't like that. And if anything, he should get a promotion. Move down one row.

Yeah. You're, you're defending the wall. You're literally. Yes.

This is your. Literally, as a fan, I know every team think you. They score at Lambeau Field. They want to do the lambo leap it. You have to be prepared that you're entering a hostile crowd at that situation. You can't. You can't expect packers fans to welcome you with open arms.

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

Stand with that fan.

He's a scumbag.

Yeah, but I stand with him. It was. He was within his rights to do so.

Yeah, but he's still a scumbag.

That's fair.

But he was doing his job. Literally. Okay, next up, Bengals 21, Browns 14. Big story, obviously, from this game is Deshaun Watson Torres Achilles. Hate to see it.

Listen, you never root for injuries. And I said. I said, you never root for. You never root for injuries.

Well, don't point at me.

You. You never root for injuries. And that's pretty much what I have to say about Deshawn. The only thing is, why was Jamis not starting today? Was he not? Or why. Excuse me? Why was Jameis Winston the emergency quarterback today?

I don't know.

He's been the backup every game this season, but the fans have started to chant for Jamis. There was a lot of speculation that maybe Stefanski was told put Jamis as the emergency so that fans can't ask him to get into the game. Yeah, so he was the emergency third string quarterback today.

And then got in.

And then got in because there was then an injury to DTR's finger or thumb, so he might be out, too.

Yeah, the. The. It was the first time since 2008 that a team had three different players attempt ten or more pass attempts.

That's pretty wild.

It was the Chiefs in 2008. Do you think you can name one.

Of the three quarterbacks on the Chiefs in 2008? Brody Croyle.

Yes.

Okay, I remember that game. Brody Croyle. Matt Castle.

No, it's Brody Croyle. Damon. He and Tt.

Tyler Thigpet.

Yes.

Let's go.

But, yeah, Deshawn Watson, the entire fans. I think there was a report from Ben baby, our friend Ben baby. They cheered when he went down. I got no problem with that. We had a weird. It was basically, Deshaun Watson goes down, everyone. I didn't. I didn't cheer for it, but I was. I definitely sat there being like, well, yeah. I mean, why? Yeah, he's a bad guy. I don't. I'm not going to be like, oh, boohoo, Deshaun Watson. But then we had the reaction. The reaction. Chase Daniel came, tried to. Tried to jump in. Front of it being like, why would anyone. I feel really bad for Deshaun Watson. It's sick that people are happy about this. I don't have any problem with people being happy about it either.

They might have been happier because they're getting one step closer to Jamis.

Yeah, it's Jamis. Also, Miles Garrett, maybe not the best quote he said after the game. Deshaun Watson has been a model citizen through college and most of the pros that most of really is covering a lot of things up, doing a lot.

Of work right there. And technically he might be right. If you look at from a mathematical perspective, the percentage of time that Deshaun Watson was not sexually assaulting people to the amount of time that he was, I'd say it's probably at least 67%. He's got his hands clean.

Yeah. Like, if Deshaun Watson has been in the NFL for, call it. I don't know. I don't know how many days, let's say 2000 days. I mean, he probably. I don't know how many massages. If it's 200 massages, that would mean that 90% of the time he was in the NFL most of the time.

But they don't want to talk about that big cat. Talk about all the days that you weren't raping somebody.

Yeah. So that was, that was a weird quote from Miles Garrett. Either way, it feels like the Browns like they, if they can start Jamis, which they should now they're going to have fun. Yeah.

It'll be a fun season. And I don't know if you were going to. You were probably going to start Jamis, right? Even if. If DTR was healthy.

I think so. I was so confused by the James emergency quarterback.

It would be such a weird thing for Stefanski to have to explain. How come your third string quarterback is now starting. What are you going to say? Like, he had a great week of practice, so I promoted him.

I don't know. TTR is not good and I seems like a nice guy, but. And I liked watching him at UCLA. He's not good, Jamis. He. He was in for like a half, a quarter through a touchdown pass.

Yeah.

And a two point conversion.

Yeah, he's fun.

He's fun. And he has awesome. He had awesome glasses on after the game. He did.

And he said all the right things. Like, I actually, I understand why the Browns would say that, because if you're a Cleveland Browns player, you step on that field every weekend. There's a chance that you could get injured and you know that it sucks to get injured, so I don't want to see your own fans cheering for one of your teammates to get injured. I'm not mad at the Browns for saying that either. Yeah, you're not mad at Brown's fans, right?

If you're a teammate of Deshaun Watson, I understand you trying to come to his defense, but you also have to understand where the fans are coming from. And the fans have every right to be like, fuck this guy.

Did Johnny fantasy have anything to say?

Oh, I don't know. He did.

I kind of want to hear phantas take on this. Do you? Because I feel like Phantom might join in chastising the Browns fans.

Oh. Because he's stirring the pot of misery. Oh, this is a good title.

What's the noise that makes me stir that pot?

Stirring the pot of misery.

Misery.

Tough.

Really tough. Brutal weekend to be a Cleveland sports fan of.

We've got scars.

They run deep. And it's hard for anybody to really empathize. We fight on. It's the only way the Cleveland sports fans know how to go about it. From eleven and six to one in 611 and six to one in six. And on this day, you allowed in your house rivalry games, first division game of the season, the opposing team, which hadn't won in that stadium for years, to run the opening kickoff back for a touchdown. And at that point, you felt like the game was over. And we went through the formality for the next four quarters, but it was. You hate to see anybody get hurt. And for Deshaun Watson, that's horrible. And you wish him the best in his recovery.

Oh, that was nice.

As for the football team, the pre snap penalties in week seven are unacceptable, and they fall on the coach. Now, I have been pro. Kevin Stefanski, right? I like Kevin. But whatever this scheme is, there is none.

Right?

It makes no sense. It's week seven. You have multiple. We're not talking one or two. We're talking three, four, five. Illegal shift, illegal motion. Illegal.

This.

We're making up new penalties, new flags.

Gotta stop.

That can't continue. This is professional football now. You're probably trying to lose. You're one in six. You need to draft a quarterback. Let's call it what it is. You've got a tank. It's in the best interest of your organization. Continue to lose. The saddest part about this is I feel bad for Nick Chubb, who made his way back to play hard. I feel bad for Miles Garrett. Not saying that I don't feel too bad for too many other guys, but I feel bad for the stars of this team, a playoff team a year ago that now sit in this pit of misery. Up next, the Ravens. I gotta find me a pumpkin patch.

Oh, no. Johnny, Johnny, Johnny. Johnny.

Santa, why is he trying to find a pumpkin patch?

I don't know. Just get away from it all.

Yeah. Take a walk.

It was awesome. The Nick Chubb scored. Nick Chubb is an awesome dude. It's cool that he scored.

Yeah.

Vibes are back with Nick Chubb. But yeah, Sean Watson just. And it is funny, we were saying in the gambling cave that we watching sports gives you the dumbest knowledge about injuries. Where we saw it, we all were like, instantly. Yep.

That's an Achilles because you see how the cat, the calf muscle kind of contracted there.

It basically, Kevin Durant took us all to medical school when he, when his Achilles popped against the Raptors in the NBA Finals. Yeah.

And we all felt like Drake.

Yeah.

No.

Not to. Sean, come on. The Bengals are quietly putting together now. Let me ask you this question, actually, let me pose it this way. Is the Bengals defense back or did they play Daniel Jones and Deshawn Watson?

I think it. So I think they play Daniel Jones and Deshaun Watson, but I think now they believe that they can play well, so it doesn't matter.

They also have done well against the run, which you can. That's not Daniel Jones and DeShawn Watson as much, although you can game plan, knowing those guys, the quarterbacks. But yeah, if you're a Bengals fan, this is the fixes. The last two weeks, they've held both teams to under 14 points. If the Bengals hold everyone to under 14 points for the rest of the season, they're going to win the Super bowl.

Yeah.

So just keep doing that and keep maybe playing Deshaun Watson and Daniel Jones.

I think that if it was just one week, they could revert back to being the Bengals that we saw earlier on defense. But for some dumb reason, when I see it two weekends row, I'm like, okay, now it's a trend.

Yeah.

If you believe in them, if they.

Just keep putting together weeks like this next week, ooh, they play the Eagles. That's going to be a test.

That'll be a test.

That will be a. Find out if it was Daniel Jones and Deshawn Watson or if the Bengals defense is back.

The both of those teams, you can ask the same question, by the way.

What?

You can find out if it's Daniel Jones.

Oh, yeah.

True.

That's exactly.

You guys just played Deshaun Watson, Daniel Jones. So we're going to find out if any of this. This would be great if you guys played like, a 1010 tie. And we're like, maybe they're just better than those two teams.

Jalen hurts likes to let throw a lot of picks.

Yeah. Jamar Chase.

Not in the past two weeks.

That's true. Jamar chases Allen Iverson. Step over was badass.

Yeah, that was nasty. That was. That was a nasty little celebration. The step over. I'm all in favor of it. I'm sure that Roger Goodell is going to think about maybe making that a penalty next year. Yeah, it should not be. The step over is great when you can pull it off and then it's on the other guy. I also think that the other guy, if you get stepped over, you should be allowed to punch him right in the nuts during the step over. Pants him or pants him. That's fine, too.

A good panting, but it's the.

It's the best move that you can do. It's just. So you ever do it to your pet?

Step over.

Yeah. It's so awesome. They look at you, you get that same vibe from, like, I just dominated you.

Step over. Let's play whose line is anyway, Hank. Draft kings sportsbook. You. You have your phone this week? Yep. So you're. You've given up the no phone?

I thought we're doing Boomer, so I had it ready.

Oh, okay. Eagles. Bengals. Eagles at Bengals.

I think Eagles at Bengals.

Wrong.

Eagles at Bengals. So this is the. Did they just play Deshaun Watson, Daniel Jones, or are they. Good bowl?

I'm gonna say Bengals minus two and a half.

So the bank. So let's just talk it out real quick. The Eagles. The Bengals beat the Browns better than the Eagles did. But the Eagles beat the Giants better than the Bengals did.

Mm hmm. Okay, wait, and they're both more recent?

Oh, man. Yeah. I'm gonna say. Would you say Bengals minus two and a half?

Two and a half.

I'll say Bengals minus one and a half.

Bengals minus two.

Okay, we split it.

Love that.

Feels good. We.

We know.

Good analysis.

We know ball big time.

We have. This is gonna be fun to figure it out. We're going to get a great answer.

I do sympathize with what Johnny Fantas said about walking into the stadium, like the opening kickoff return for a touchdown. Oh, there's nothing worse as a fan than walking into the stadium before you even see the green of the grass. Maybe you're like a couple minutes late for kickoff, and you sit down at your seat and you're already losing by a touchdown. Yeah, that's. That's a sign. Your day is not even. You don't even have a chance for your day to be good. Right, that point.

Yeah, it's absolutely true. The dynamic air right out of it.

Yeah.

Air right out of the entire building.

You see what Trump said about the kickoff? What he said took a direct shot at our boy Sam Schwartztein.

Oh, no.

He said it's ugly. It's called Sam's kickoff ugly.

Yeah. Although we're getting more kickoff.

We're getting more kickoff. He's talking about the kickoffs that aren't returned. He thinks it's ugly.

I agree with that. I think the whole point was to get more kickoff return touchdown.

I agree 100%. I think that when it's kicked out of bounds for a touchback, it's very ugly. It's a very ugly play.

Yeah.

But when it's returned for a touchdown, it's one of the most beautiful plays in sports.

Yeah. The kickoff went from, like a solid seven to now a five in some light and a ten in some other light.

Yeah. When the kick up, when it wears. It's met. When it smiles more.

Yeah.

Then it's really, really attractive.

When it. When it. When it wears something really fancy.

Yeah.

Kick off. Looks great. Looks great. Damn, check out that chick.

Yeah, but look at that. Check.

Look at that chick. Shout out the guys at the IU college football show who had a sign that said, titty fucking is overrated.

Max was getting a lot of support from the cave. Stepped up, big cat. I was trying to hold titty fucking. Yeah, about titty fuck.

Oh. Pft.

Also had an all time terrible take.

What was it?

I don't know if you can't count that as a take.

Yes, it was.

What was the take?

Jaden Daniels came out in a. A commander's hoodie.

You always talk about Jaden Daniels on this podcast.

A commander's hoodie and a commander's hands and che goes all pfts and street clothes and PFt had the hardest stance, that they weren't street close because they were teamish. It was team issued gear.

But that's just a saying.

It was a. It was a jump. It was a jumpsuit. Right. So it was like the track suit that you wear on the sidelines, like all the training staff, all that. I've always said that street clothes is if you're wearing clothes that you would wear on this, like, to the game.

And then ESPN tweeted, like, an hour later, yeah.

Daniels on street clothes. Street clothes to me is like, you're wearing a blazer or a turtleneck.

No.

Or a sweater. I always thought that it was like, yeah, I know the saying, but I, when they say this guy's in street clothes watching the game in the NBA, there's always a guy on the bench, and he's wearing, like, a shirt and.

But if a guy gets injured and comes back, they'll say street clothes, and he'll usually be wearing, like, sweatpants.

I don't know. Was, yes. Wet pants, but not the team issued. I was already. I don't know why I'm already. I don't know why I'm still arguing about this. Even though I've been proven wrong. I'm defending my take that I know is wrong because there's something of sound that I wanted to be.

Also. You of all people should say that those are street clothes.

Well, no, that point got brought up like he's six years old every day. I said, again, that's a valid point. That's a valid.

Those are your street.

The haters, honestly, they get things right from time to time. Who nailed that?

Who's saying city fucking so overrated in this cave?

Everyone. Everyone was everyone except for many smokes.

Well, Nicky Smokes is a king of bad opinions.

Yeah, it was really snicky smokes and Stephen Shay, which is probably great.

That's awesome. That, that makes me feel very confident. Okay, next up, Colts. Actually, let's do a couple ads, then we'll get to the Colts, Dolphins.

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Okay, colts 16, dolphins ten. This game was tough to watch.

Yeah, very.

I will try to be nicer about Anthony Richardson for a second. He used his legs well.

Yeah, but he also refuses to slide. I don't think they've even had the conversation with him about sliding.

Yeah, yeah.

He's going to run and it's going to be electric when he does and then he's going to use his face mask to try to stiff arm a defensive back.

But he made here's another positive thing. He made it through the game. Yep, and they won the game. So that's good for a young QB's confidence. But the throwing thing is still very tough.

It is tough. You won the game but you also kind of beat Tim Boyle.

Yeah. So Tim Boyle being the backup. Nice guy. Nice guy.

Very nice guy.

Nice guy.

Much as good as he is as a quarterback, he's an even better human being.

I'll say this about Tim Boyle and I don't know him, but I feel like he probably would prefer not to have to play.

If you were the third string quarterback not named Jamis, would you want to play?

No, I think that, like, so you can't be critical of Tim Boyle because if you hit Tim Boyle trusium, he'd be like, dude, I don't want to get in either.

And how do you even evaluate this game if you're a Dolphins fan? You have Tim Boyle closing it out.

Tyler Huntley looked good on the first drive, I guess, but they ran the ball until they fumbled everywhere and most certain ingold fumbled.

You can't be mad at Tim Boyle, right?

No. Like I'm saying, like, Tim Boyle is probably sitting there like, dude, I don't want to play. I want to, I have a very nice life as the, what was the third string quarterback then became the backup quarterback. It would be so much better if I could just live my life, have an awesome time being in NFL locker room, catching a paycheck. I can walk away and be like, hey, I played in the NFL. Which still, it's like when we have Rolof ski on. Tim Boyle is still at .001% of football players ever, and Tim Boyle is.

Probably the first one to be like, God damn it, Tim Boyle's in. Tim Boyle sucks.

Yeah. Like, he doesn't want to play.

He feels just like you do.

Yeah, he's, he's nothing. He's not being like, hey, it's Tim Boyle time. Call my number. Yeah, I want to get in there. I want to fucking tb. I did. He changed his number. He was 1412. Yeah. Is tb 14 now?

Now, if you're a Colts fan, enjoy the win. You guys won a football game. Hard to do in the NFL, right?

You're in the mix.

You're definitely in the mix. Your defense looked pretty good today. I guess you can say it didn't fuck up too badly today.

No, but it's a boy.

It's Tim Boyle. But you didn't, you didn't ruin it.

No.

You made Tim Boyle look like Tim Boyle, which is all you can hope for.

Yeah.

So I don't want to rain on your parade, but there was a sad stat that came out after the game comparing Anthony Richardson with Joe Flacco. This season. Five games for Anthony Richardson, three for Joe Flacco. Passing yards, 783 for Anthony Richardson, 716 for Joe pass touchdowns, three for Anthony Richardson, seven for Joe Flacco. Interceptions, six for Anthony Richardson, one for Joe Flacco. Completion percentage 48.5 for Anthony Richardson, 65.7 for Joe Flacco.

Yeah. Joe Flocko did say, I think this week that Anthony Richardson should play because that's the only way he's going to. If he ever gets better, it's not going to happen on the sidelines, which Joe Flacco is a great guy. We already knew that. And again, I don't want to beat up. They won the game. So you have to like a wins a win. Maybe this gives him confidence, being like, find a way to win these games. But it's everything that I've thought before is the throwing the ball is very important for a quarterback, and he doesn't do it very well.

That, to me is how you know that Joe Flacco is the true quarterback of this team when he's saying, you, you should play the guy that's not as good as me so that he can get better and help the team be better. That's a guy that can make your team better.

Yeah. Yeah. It will be interesting to see if they tread water and they're in a spot because right now they're the seven seed. If the playoffs started today, if they tread water and it's like, hey, maybe we should play Joe Flacco because they play the Texans and the Vikings coming up and those are pretty good defenses, so that might not go well. And then the Bills in the jet. Oh, shit. The Colts. Go Texans, Vikings, bills jets, lions. That's not going to be easy. No, that might not help Anthony Richardson's progress.

Texans Vikings, Bills Jets, Lions. That's. That's not a good stretch.

That's not a great stretch for AR 15.

The Colts also had a little mishap before the game. Jim, or say, we're big fans of his on this podcast. Huge. His. His only job, I think, during game days is to determine whether or not the roof is going to be open or closed. We also stay glued to our smartphones on Thursdays when he makes that announcement.

So I can think about the roof.

Is going to be open or if the window is going to be open. He said it was going to be a roof open day, which is huge. The roof, it's a. It's a big factor in the Colts recent success. When it's roof open games, they tend to wipe the floor of their opponents. The roof didn't open today.

Oh, no.

There's a big malfunction with the roof. I don't know what this means going forward. This is probably the last roof open game that you can have on the season and the stadium let him down today.

Oh, no.

And so something to keep your eye on.

Okay. So we got him. The roof might be malfunctioning, but also roofs fighting back maybe.

But also, this might give Jim mercy. Just a project to work on. So he's not gonna be doing any other bad stuff. He's just gonna be focused on fixing the roof. So that might be a good thing.

Now, don't go up on the roof, Jim.

Yeah, well, he might.

Yeah, but that'll be dangerous.

Yeah.

Don't do it. All right. Eagles 28, Giants three, max. The Saquon revenge game worked out perfectly. 176 yards a touchdown. The Saquon Barkley had 176 yards, and the New York Giants offense had 119 total yards. If you're trying to script up revenge games, that really can't go better than that.

Yeah. Yeah. He's keeping. He's keeping Mister Mara up at night.

Yeah.

Sleepover. And he was booed.

He was booed. So the Nobu was wrong.

No, that was not what we were just debating. You said whether Eagles fans would boo.

Oh, yeah. Well, I think Eagles fans probably did boo because, like I said, I'm consistent. They just heard a boo and they joined it.

Disagree. He also was pretty shaken up. He said that as he was walking in, he saw Giants fans burning his jersey in the parking lot, and he said he was like, I've never seen that before with my own eyes, and I hope I never see it again.

I mean, that's was what, that seemed a little dramatic.

Yeah, it does. It seems like Giants fans was that serious. It feels like Giants fans were true.

Like, laughing about it.

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

All right. So he was joking.

Yeah.

It feels like Giants fans were trying to take back some of the narrative in the Saquon thing and turn this hatred that they have or the disappointment they have in their own franchise into just hating Saquon instead. So just pointing, I'd be like, fuck that guy.

So Jason Kelsey had a tweet that. That everyone was responding to, and he said, for the life of me, I don't understand why Giants fans hate Saquon for what happened and not the Giants organization, for the fact he's an Eagle. They've absolutely no one to blame, other than the Giants ownership and management decisions for why he's no longer a giant. True. But fans don't. If. If the mara's mister Mora. Sorry, came out in a jersey, he would be booed. He doesn't come out in New Jersey. The only outlet they have to boo the Mara's and the organization is via Saquon. So I completely understand why some Giants fans were booing Saquon, Barkley. That's the. That's their outlet. Yeah.

That's what I'm saying. They're displacing their frustration, and they're. They're like, we see Saquon. Maybe they weren't booing Saquon. Maybe they were booing what Saquon represents.

Yeah.

The fact you were on the Eagles.

Deserves to be booed.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They hate the Eagles. Yeah. But. So it makes perfect sense.

They might have been booing Saquon because he represents the fact that the ownership let him go, and that's how they're booing.

Yeah. And I like Jason Kelsey. We're gonna have mon at some point, right, Max? Yeah. You're the booker. You can. You can book it.

I'm not.

I'm not the booker, but you could help book it either way. Jason Kelsey is a. I'll say a friend of the show, because we've met him a couple times. This is one of those moments where he has been on the show way back in the day. This is one of those moments where a guy was. He doesn't fully understand the fans perspective, and it's not no fault of his. Like, he doesn't understand that fans just have to boo.

Yeah.

You have to let fans boo. Otherwise, they, like, it's like the erectile dysfunction commercials. Like, if you don't boo for, you know, multiple weeks, you should see a.

Doctor, get a booze or lose it.

Yeah. Right.

He did also go on to say in the tweet, obviously understand their hate of the Eagles and desire for him not to.

Yes. Yeah. He gets it. But I was not surprised that some fans booed. I just know that Saquon just dominated them today. Dominated.

And you knew it was gonna happen, too.

Yeah. Yeah.

Like, this was. He was. Stepped into the Boston Scott role very nicely today.

Yeah. And the Eagles defense looked good. They sacked Daniel Jones eight times. Yeah. Bryce Huff even got a couple.

Bryce Huff got one. Jalen Carter had two. Nakoby Dean had two.

The Giants offensive line sucks, especially now that Andrew Thomas is out. And how are we feeling? State of the Eagles now?

It felt good to get a blowout win. We haven't seen one of those in a really long time. It was nice to, like, watch football without any stress. We had. We were sitting next to each other. We both had Eagles minus three. It was basically over. Well, they still didn't score a point in the first quarter, which is insane that they haven't scored a point in the first quarter all year, and they're four and two. That's crazy. But it was still nice to just like have a pretty stressed free Sunday.

Keeps his job. Yeah. Good.

Good day for Sirianni. Oh, good day for Sirianni.

We need to have just a tracker. He's, he's like the smoke coming out of the Vatican. He gets to keep his job one more week.

Yeah.

No.

And I get to, I get to be fluid with my thoughts on Sirianni 100% that I want that on the record.

Yes.

To see does he get any credit for this.

Yeah, for sure. I also want to say Quinnian Mitchell is amazing. Okay.

Put it on the record.

Our rookie corner. Like, he, he should be in the conversation.

Toledo.

Rookie. Toledo.

Toledo. He's good.

He had neighbors locked up all day.

Yeah. So everything's good right now.

Yeah. No, today, today was good. Today was a good day.

You beat a bad team soundly, which that makes. That still counts.

And it makes you feel good.

Right.

We've been playing bad teams and not beating them soundly.

Yes.

So it's good when you do see that.

Yeah.

And it's also awesome when your star running back goes home and just absolutely dominates his former.

Did you take any extra pleasure knowing that there's probably a significant amount of Mets fans that are also Giants fans?

Yes.

Although it's mostly.

But I'm assuming that there's still.

No, there's.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They're all, they, I feel like they all flip flop. It was more so like we. But it doesn't really mean they still have the last laugh. They beat us. They beat us in the playoff in the NBA. They beat us in MLB. We had a regular season win against the fucking Giants who fucking suck.

The Giants just feel like they have been in disaster franchise mode for an extended, extended period of time now.

It's like at the end of Eli's career moving forward.

Yeah. And it's, it's very bizarre because you have two Super Bowls in the last, whatever it is, 1617 years. So you can't be like, oh, they are a total dumpster fire. But since the Super Bowls, they are a dumpster fire and a truly atrocious organization.

I also, their defense is going to win them a couple more games. Dexter Lawrence is a monster and so is Brian Burns.

Yeah.

Their D line is very good. And will, like, I don't think that they're going to be like a. I'm trying, like, I'm like, I think that they're like they should be trying to lose more than they are.

Yeah.

Like, them going out and spending all, all the capital to get Brian Burns is crazy to me. Why did they do that?

The. And they. Daniel Jones is. I mean, he was, he was under duress the entire game, but, yeah, he's not. He's not the quarterback going forward. I think we've all agreed on that, right? Like, he's not going to be. They need to figure something out.

Yeah, they got to figure something out.

And even table. Did a. He did a drew lock. Drew Lock. Spark today.

Yep. Spark.

He says spark.

That's. That's what I'm saying.

I think you fumbled twice at the.

End of the season. You have to move on from Jones. But I hope they keep dable. And I'm not saying that as a commander. I'm saying that, like, just as a fan of ball.

Yeah.

As a fan of high quality football and, and the right people being in the right positions. You know, I love that. And I think that Brian Dable is. He should stick around. Don't put all this on him.

Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. All right, so, Max, feeling good? Four and two. Big game against the Bengals. Huge game against the bank.

Huge game against the Bengals, but, yeah, big game against Bengals. Only thing to say, but you.

It feels like you're back in on the season a little bit.

It.

Yeah.

Yeah. Four and two. Four and two is four and two. It's good record.

Well put that.

And we just got to go into Cincinnati next week. Beat the Bengals five and two and then.

And just in. Jalen Hurts has not thrown an interception last two games.

Big.

Is that good?

You normally might be bad. It's not taking the risk that he should just think about it that way.

There were times I was, I was getting mad at Jalen today in the first half, and then he threw that deep ball to AJ Brown, which was just right on the money.

Yeah.

Fourth down. That just saved the season.

I think the Eagles roster is still good. You guys were just very, very injured. And having both AJ Brown out and Devontae out, that's. That's huge.

And Lane Johnson.

And Lane Johnson.

Yes.

Those are master three. Probably the three out of the four guys that you could stand to lose the least on offense.

Yeah.

No, it's crazy. Like, all of the fire, the coach, like, panic of the Eagles this season.

Yeah. Where was that coming from?

No, no. Like, I'm saying that in myself.

Yeah, yeah. Okay, next game. Bill's 34, Titans ten. Josh Allen's hundredth start in the NFL. Congrats, Sam. He's got 68 wins. He's the six most through. That's the six most wins through 100 starts all time. And he is third all time for most total touchdowns through 100 starts. Aaron Rogers 241. Patrick Holmes 237. Josh Allen 236. Pretty good company.

It's great company. And no interceptions this season, so he's having maybe his best season taking care of the ball. The bad Josh isn't around as much.

Yeah. And this was a weird game because you thought it was maybe a very sleepy spot for the Bills. They were down ten nothing. The offense looked bad. Defense didn't look good. And then they just were like, oh, yeah, we're the bills. We're going to throttle them. 34 unanswered. I saw a stat that the Titans had ran eleven plays in the third quarter for eleven total yards.

That's gross.

So they just fucked him up on both sides of the ball. And Amari Cooper got going.

He did. Yeah.

Scored a touchdown.

What was the stat like after Deshaun Watson got taken out of the game? He all of a sudden got good at football during his game.

Yeah.

It's like he knew. Yeah, he knew that something. The bad man's gone.

Yeah.

He's not gonna hurt you anymore.

Yeah.

And he just went off. Yeah. So it's nice to see Mari Cooper playing well.

Yeah, it is.

Because I'm sure that he's. He's dealt with some bullshit in his career and. Yeah. Josh. I think Josh Allen is maybe having his best season ever.

He's playing lights out, and Keon Coleman looks like a real dude now, too.

Yeah.

Like, this was they. He had a big, big catch, 125 yards. So their offense, you know, they still have to. There still was that two, two game blip on, you know, the Ravens and Texans back to back, but we'll see when is their next big, big game.

But they didn't play that bad against the Texans.

That was a winnable game. Josh wasn't very good in that game. He also was concussed. We're not then people say that was some. That was being glazing. Whatever.

Well, when I say that Josh is having his best season, I'm saying that for years, all everyone says, like, if you can just get Josh to limit turnover plays, blah, blah, blah, that's what he's doing. That's what he's doing right now. So you can either like it when he just goes hog wild and does crazy shit all the time and throws a lot of interceptable balls, or he can like what he's doing right now.

Do you think so? Will Levis has shoulder injury. Mason Rudolph started, I was actually nervous, I thought, because I bet the bills. And then I was like, oh, shit, Mason Rudolph's going to play. This might be a competent Titans team. Titans are just bad.

Yeah. Bad vibes. Real bad vibes with the Titans and Andre Hopkins. He had one target this week. I think he had six yards.

Okay.

He's got to be gone, right?

You got to trade.

They got to be. They're. They're doing whatever the quiet firing of them is. They're just. Yeah, you can go out there, but please, for the love of God, don't get hurt, because we want to help the Chiefs win another Super bowl this year.

Yeah. Yeah, he's. He. Well, Calvin Ridley, too.

Yeah.

He. He probably is going to get traded and maybe won't get. I don't know. Titans should probably give up. Yeah, a little bit. They have kind of given up, but they should officially give.

This is what you get when you fire Braves.

Yeah. Look, we like Brian Callahan. He's been dealt. Not a great hand.

Yeah.

Full rebuild. But, yeah, the bills, this was. This was one of those games where I was like, the Bills should kill the Titans. And they ended up killing the Titans. So it feels good to at least know a little bit of ball.

When this game, it was like the. You could always say, the Titans, they'll at least beat you up a little bit physically on defense.

Yeah.

And this one was like, even the defense, they've had enough.

Yeah.

Maybe the defense has had enough of watching the Titans offense.

Yeah.

And they got just as sick of it as we have.

Yeah. There. No moss.

Yeah.

No mas. Okay, last one for the early slate. Seahawks 34, Falcons 14. This was our Kirk Cousins off day game. I think I said it in the first quarter. He threw a couple passes that were just not accurate. I was like, ooh, he doesn't look. He doesn't look sharp today. And they did, actually, the second half, it felt like the Falcons were going to be back in the games. They marched down the field, and then the wheels just came off with the fumble. Two picks, just the Falcons, and they burned a great Bijon Robinson day. Yeah.

What did I tell you about the Seahawks defense?

Yeah.

I feel like they. They weren't far away.

They. They gave up a decent amount of yards, but they started turning, you know, taking the ball away, which can change anything. Yeah.

This was a trap game for Kirk. This.

Yeah.

When he said, walk in the trap, take over your trap. Did anybody tell Kirk Cousins that it's a home game?

Mmm. Well, no, he said that about the Panthers okay.

I thought he was talking about this weekend.

No. Remember we three, we had the. Memes took ownership for screwing up the graphic.

Oh, yeah, that's right. That's what made me confused.

Yeah.

You probably confuse a lot of people out there, memes.

Yeah, he did.

I. I think I confused a ton.

Yeah. Ton of people.

Because it would. It would make no sense for him to say that when another team is trying to walk into his trap and take over his trap.

Geno also is. He is fun when. When he can. Has time to throw that touchdown pass to DK at the end of the first half. Is DK okay, by the way? Did he get carted off? I can never know when he gets carted off if he's just going to take a shit or nothing.

I don't know if he got carted off.

I think I saw an image of him on a cart.

I did not see that part. I did see DK with one of the best blocks of the week where he just used one arm and he stiff armed a guy with one arm and just stood there like, just standing perfectly still.

Yeah.

Like a security guard.

He was. He was little boy in it.

Yeah. Keeping. Keeping the cornerback away, trying to make a tackle. DK just stands there upright with one arm. It's just like, no, no, you're not gonna tackle.

Yeah. So they're saying, sorry, too many.

Too many dudes in here.

Maybe MCL strain. So, yeah, he got carted off. That's not good.

That's not.

We're optimistic at this point. It doesn't look too bad. That's good.

Mike McDonald said, okay, not looking too bad.

Yeah. Seahawks are fun, though. They have so many guys there.

Yeah. They're wide receivers and they're Bobo. It's also just fun to say Bobo.

Kenneth Walker. But, yeah, this was another one where I know that I had a terrible week, but I saw this one coming. Whereas the Falcons were riding a little too high. You know, they won a couple big games and beat up on the Panthers and the Seahawks. This was hungry. Dogs run faster, Hank. This Seahawks needed this win very bad.

I think these are two very similar teams.

Yeah. Probably not going to go deep. Deep.

Could win a wild card game.

Could be. Could give someone some fits in the.

Divisional round unless they play a team from the NFC north.

Yeah. Or. Yeah. Yeah. But they could maybe be up in the divisional route, but they could also ceiling.

They could host a divisional round game against a wild card team from the NFC north. That would beat the fuck out of them.

Correct.

That would take over their track is one of.

Yeah, they could easily win their their respective divisions.

Yeah.

Okay. Anything else from this game? Let's do a couple more ads and we'll do afternoon games, maybe talk some playoff baseball as well. And Sunday Night Football. Yeah.

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Okay, afternoon games. Stinkers. Yep, stinkers. But we've got to start pft your commanders 40, panthers seven. Are you where we at? How are we feeling?

Well, so Jaden's mom tweeted out he's fine.

Okay, that's good.

His mom. I'm going to Jayden his mom. For all of my jaden news, I've. I subscribe to her X.com post about it. X.com, the everything app. It's all happening on X. So I'm following her on there. And then I also had to follow her on instagram, too, just in case she broke news there. Smart.

Smart.

So I'm all over that. I just. I feel like the Panthers really wasted the Bryce young doing the scout team impression of Jaden Daniels because Jayden Daniels was out after one play.

Yes.

So this game was over. They weren't prepared for Marcus Mariota.

Marcus Mariota.

They didn't. They don't have anybody on the roster that can emulate him as well as Jaden. I hope he's okay. It was. I don't want to say it was boring because it was an ass kicking and our offense looked good without Jaden.

It's fun to play the Panthers.

People are asking if Jaden Daniels is system quarterback. If he is, then I fucking love this system.

Yeah, but you just got to keep Cliff Kingsbury.

We got to keep Cliff.

Yeah.

But a good performance by the defense today. Defense played really, really well. Again, we played the Panthers, but the Panthers offense hasn't always been that bad this season. They've had a couple good games here and there.

So I have a question for you about the Marcus Mariota thing, because I know that if that had happened to me in Tyson Baijin came in and looked awesome, my mentions would just be flooded with people being like, Caleb Williams actually sucks. Yep. Anyone could do it.

There's enough bodies that.

Was that happening to you?

I chose to not look at my mention.

Smart. That's very smart.

The time that I did, I saw. And I saw you guys getting tagged in a lot. Is Jaden Daniels a system quarterback?

Maybe just mute the word system for a couple days.

Are the commanders better without Jayden Daniels?

You knew that was coming because that's just how the Internet has to work.

Well, I also. I tweeted out that, but not getting to watch Jaiden makes me want to memes myself. And then I got reported to actually, Twitter reached. Excuse me. X reached out to me with a safety notification. We're writing to you because a concerned individual has recently alerted to us to potentially suicidal or self harming comments posted on your account. How do they know what memes myself even means?

They're listeners.

It's not just self harm. It's also blowing up the entire NFL office.

Yeah, that's true, but there's a lot.

But I think it's a rib of some sort. He has a rib. Confirmed. I will give Jaden Daniels one of my ribs. I volunteer as tribute. You can remove one of my ribs, put it in Jaden Sternum, and then just sew him up, and hopefully he'll be fine. But it could be worse. It could be worse. When he went, we went out at first, I was, like, very concerned because I've seen this movie before with a quarterback, but I don't think that it's. I don't think that it's anything super long term.

So do you think he's gonna play next week?

I think he could have come back and played today, but we're really.

Him to play next week.

Yeah, no, suck. If he doesn't play next.

Yes, I hope that he plays next week if he's healthy. I'm concerned about his long term health right now.

Yeah, I. He's got to play next week, though.

For America, for this show. For this show and for.

Specifically for this show and the ratings of this show. And we need just this show.

We need that. Yeah, but, yeah, I think our defense played awesome. Our running game looked good again. We played the Panthers.

I mean, the Panthers are of. So they've re. They've reached levels that are like. Cause we. We talked about on Friday, but Andy Dalton, he gave him that one game bump that's way long gone. I don't know why they don't just play Bryce Young anymore. Bryce Young could easily throw a pick six and another pick to put him in a big hole, and then the game be over in the first quarter. He could have done that.

He could have. And so Andy Dalton had 93 yards, two interceptions, no touchdowns.

Well, he threw a touchdown to you.

Guys through a touchdown to us. Pick six right off the bat was really nice. I truly enjoyed that. And also, again, if our defense can somehow learn how to be good, then that's going to be incredible for the season because our defense, I know for a fact they're not good, but they played really good today, so I'm happy with that. Andy Dalton, I feel like putting Bryce Young back in. I don't know if that's really solves anything or if that's even good for Bryce Young, but what, but what's the.

Alternate, like, you're going to lose anyway.

Yeah.

Andy Dalton, nice guy. Recurring guests love to have him on when he retires again, but you're going to lose anyway. What, what's the downside of. It's kind of similar to the Anthony Richardson where it's like, play him and see what you got. What's what. What's the word? Where are you going to end up? That's different than where you are right now.

Okay.

So if he's bad, you're at the exact same spot.

My theory is that the Panthers aren't doing it because they're trying to trade Bryce Young.

He's not, he doesn't have trade value.

But he could potentially get injured. I'm sure that there's some team out there that would give up like a 6th or a 7th, maybe a seven.

That's not worth trying. A six, to me, is not worth the, whatever you want to call it, 2% chance that Bryce Young, something happens where he just figured it out and he's good.

Would you say that you know ball better than David Tepper? Because I think you probably do.

I do.

So David Tepper might not be thinking about it in that mindset.

It's just, it makes no sense to me.

David Tepper probably thinks that he's worth like, a third round pick.

The other part of it is, is like, Dave Canales, you just got hired. I don't think you're going to get fired after one year. Like, it doesn't seem like that's going to be the case because you, you got hired into a shitty situation. So it. It would be like, I would understand it if it was a guy who was three years into the deal as a head coach and he's like, we have to win games in order for me to keep my job. Andy Dalton probably gives us the best chance. Even though he's not giving you a chance anymore, then it would make sense. But none of it makes sense. Dave Canal is, like, the best possible outcome for all of this is Bryce Young again? It's probably a 2% chance is somehow good. Every other outcome you've already kind of figured out, and it all sucks.

I would like to formally remove the tag quarterback whisperer from Dave Kanellis for at least one full season.

Yeah.

So, like, in the off season, when the Panthers get a new quarterback in, you're not allowed to call Dave Canales a quarterback.

I agree. I'd agree.

You lost that privilege.

I'd agree.

You were brought into Whisper to Bryce, and you did not whisper effectively enough to Bryce.

The Panthers have given up 279 points through six games. Or have they played seven?

They.

I think they maybe have played seven.

Played seven.

They played seven. That's the most since 1954 through seven weeks. That's pretty crazy.

It's not all on the quarterback. Now. Some of those are from short field. Some of those are from pick sixes like we saw today.

Yeah, no, they're deep. I guess the way I'd sum up the Panthers, and I'm sorry, Panthers fans, but they also know this, their defense is atrocious. Their offense is slightly better than atrocious.

Yeah, yeah. At times, their offenses, I'd say serviceable.

Yeah. But it's kind of not even anymore. It wasn't that Raiders game. Yeah.

They look good in those pants, though. Today, the commanders off the commanders pants. The yellow pants are great. Wear those every single day.

That was the best pants matchup of the day.

Easily, easily. Were they, were they both throwback pants?

They might have been.

I think they were both throwback pants. Yeah.

Manders, cannon throwbacks. They should do throwbacks, though.

What do you mean?

Oh, you talking. You're talking to the skins.

Skins. Just call the skins.

Yeah, why not call them the skins?

But it was Darrell nice.

Everyone has skin. We, we were talking about it earlier, but we were looking ahead at the schedule, and on Sunday, November 10, there is a game being played in Munich, Germany, between the Giants in the pants.

We're finally even for World War Two.

That is home.

I got him back, big cat.

Wait, are the pants. Nope. The Panthers don't have a buy next week. I was hoping that they maybe had a buy so we could just be away from them for a week.

Just go scrimmage the dolphins.

Yeah, this. This is. And then the saints in two weeks for the Panthers, that's gonna be a. Nobody believes in anyone bold.

That might be Derek Carr coming back, beating the fuck out of the Panthers.

Yeah.

Like, are the saints good again?

Yeah, yeah. It's just a sad state. I feel bad for Panthers fans, but I'll stand on the. I'll stand on a soapbox and say, why not start Bryce Young? There's nothing, there's no alternative that is worse than what's happening right now. Bryce Young can come in and be God awful and nothing will change.

Right. I think the only thing you have to lose is potentially a low draft.

Pick, and it's as low as it could be.

That's about it.

Yeah.

Well, there's also the risk that you, you trade them for another backup quarterback on a different team, and then you bring that guy in and all of a sudden he's good on the Panthers with quarterback whisperer Dave Canal.

Dave Canal.

And then you ruin your draft pick.

Yeah.

So that's an issue.

Or, like, the Browns should just trade for him right now. Although we want Jamis.

Yeah, we want Jamis. We want Jamis for sure. Now, I would like to formally open up if you're a Panthers fan. All aboard the bandwagon. I'm accepting anybody on the commanders bandwagon.

Okay, that's very nice. Yeah.

If you want to root for the commanders, please. The more the merrier. I'm down for it.

Panthers don't even have the first pick right now. That's even Sado's the Patriots.

Oh, yeah, that's good.

Hey, that's really sad. The Panthers don't even have the first pick because their strength of schedule is too good.

Well, you can't screw up the first pick. If you're the Panthers, then, yeah, I guess that's true. Not bad.

I guess that's true.

I just want Jaden to be healthy. I want him to be okay. We're five and two, which is awesome.

He's got a play.

So still first place in the division. Happy about that. I want Jay to be healthy. I hope that he plays. I think judging from how he was signaling, touchdown on the sidelines, I think he's going to be okay.

The long term health is important, but more important is him playing next week.

To some people, you have to be.

You have to be in that camp.

Yes, but I don't want him to get hurt more. This.

The last eight months of this show have revolved around Sunday, yesterday.

You have to do. I don't know what message you can send, but he. It's just, it's the Super bowl.

I'll do my best. I think he's fun.

He has the memes just said he has to play.

You saw how he put his two hands up. Right.

It was funny watching you. I mean, it's not funny because I hope he's okay. And I did right away. I was like, I think it's ribs, which is way better than any alternative. But when he went down on that run at the goal line and you were like, no, he was going down anyway. And I was, very relatable moment where you just had to. You were just. Your mind was racing.

I was gonna just say things until I was proven office. Yeah, that's kind of how I was gonna operate.

Che said that he thought maybe he got a wood chip in his. Underneath his jersey, which makes no sense.

I said, get a wood chip. He said, I don't know, maybe you stopped by a playground at some point today. That would have been an awesome. They take him back, they put him in the x ray machine, and they're like, yeah, you got a wood chip.

Jaden, what the fuck? You got a wood chip?

Write you a prescription for one batch.

Yeah. What the hell, man? Why are you carrying around this wood chip? That could be dangerous.

I hope he's okay. I think he's okay.

Yeah. Okay. Another stinky game.

Rams.

Raiders. Rams 20. Raiders 15. Rams are back ish in the fact that they won off their buy. Antonio Pierce pulled them out. And I don't want to bring up Matt La for. Because he's doing well and his coach, his team is good and all that stuff, but he pulled him out. Lafleur. Antonio Pierce kicked a field goal down eight on the nine yard line with all three timeouts to make a one score game. A one score game.

Yeah. We were watching that in the studio and I thought I was missing something.

Yeah.

So I checked with big cat. I was like, he shouldn't be kicking this. Right. And it's absolutely fucking not.

You should.

You should not be kicking that field. No, it makes zero sense. But that's also. It's a very interim head coach type move. He does a lot of things.

He is the head coach.

Yeah, I know. But he still very much operates as an interim head coach. Yeah. The way that he runs the team, it's just all about, like, you know, being more physical.

Covering the spread.

Covering the spread. Some points are better than no points. So Antonio Pierce sees as a fourth down. I don't know. That's kind of scary. If I don't convert this, we lose the ball.

Yeah.

Might as well kick a meaningless field goal.

And then they got the ball back with, like a minute left, left on their own ten. And Gardner Minshew who came in because I think Aiden O'Connell broke his thumb, which is just another sad chapter in the saddest QB carousel possible. I the Raiders are just so lost. And the Rams, it wasn't like they lit it up, but I think the Rams are close to getting some of their guys back. I feel like Cooper cup was almost going to play this week, so if you're, and guess what, reminder to everyone out there, oh, we should play whose lines anyway for Thursday Night Football. We have to take the Rams on Thursday night because they're playing the Vikings, who just played the Lions and that.

Yes.

The new trend.

Yep.

So Vikings, Rams, whose line is it anyway? Brought to you by draftkings.

Oh, wait, just played what? That's this Thursday?

Yeah.

This Thursday.

Yeah. Shit. Okay, Vikings, I'm gonna say, are four point favorites.

That sounds pretty good. I'll go, I'll go. Five and a half it is.

Vikings minus three.

Oh, they're on to us. Yep, they're on to us. So we got to take the Rams. I don't want to take the Rams. So we have to take the Rams.

Yeah, it's definitely a Rams play.

You have to.

I feel like, yeah, the Rams, they're a very well coached team. Obviously, they always managed to win a couple games that they shouldn't when they're dealing with injuries and they have to get less injured. Right. They can't get any more injured than they have been.

No. And if you look at the Rams season, besides that cardinal stinker where it's burned, burn the tape and buried the football, they've been in every game. They have been, you know, their losses are all one score losses, and they've been in every game against some really tough teams. So maybe the Rams concern the corner. They are my pinky team, but maybe they can turn the corner. They beat the Vikings, it gets to.

Three and four, and that division isn't as locked up as we thought it would be.

Three and four and then going to play the Seahawks.

Yeah.

And then they got the Dolphins and Patriots. So the Rams. Uh oh. Maybe I'm just talking myself into a team that I know that is not good.

Are they, you don't look now team?

No, they're, they're the, they just beat the Raiders.

They're my don't look now team because I don't really like watch.

We need, we need like a list of, of teams that we just have on a board. So whenever one, when a team wins, we should be like, did they, did they, are they back or did they play this team.

Yeah.

Raiders and the Panthers.

Raiders. Panthers. Browns. Maybe.

Maybe. Browns. Jaguars are cut. I mean, jaguars are now have two wins, so that kind of changes my. Don't look now.

You know who might be on that list? Saints.

Saints.

Yeah, I think they're on the list.

Saints could be on that list. You have just, like, just. Just pause and ask yourself, are they back or do they play this team?

Both the Jaguars and the Patriots are on that list.

Yes.

So we don't know if the Jags are good, because they just.

Yeah, I mean, I know this is all a play on myself because the Bears played half of these teams, which I'm very much aware of and honest about, but I don't care. I don't care.

Took care of business.

The Rams are not on that list.

No.

The Rams are frisky. They beat the Rams.

Bang, boom.

Titans are on that list.

Fuck.

They beat the Titans. Yeah.

Let's see who else we got on the list. Giants.

Giants. Could be on that list. Or the Giant. We'll find out. Are the Giants. What, what's that face, Max?

Giants. Think.

Yeah, I know. So it's like, are they. Is your team back or do they play this team? No.

Yeah, I said this. Yeah, I've already said that.

Yeah. All right. So we've actually, we've these teams.

Yeah.

A lot of these teams.

Get them out.

What are the last. What are the last three commanders wins?

Two commanders, last, two commit well today.

Yeah. Panthers.

And then before that was the Browns.

What are the last two Eagles wins?

That would be the Giants and the Browns.

And the last two bears wins or the Jaguars in the Panther, that's okay. You play who you play really bad.

You play who you play.

We just broke the fourth wall.

Maybe the NFL just stinks.

Maybe the NFL. Well, guess what? We can't apologize for being four and two. I had a bye week this week. Four and two. Five and two.

Five and two.

Five and two. Because imagine if we were first over there. That was one in six. Or two and five. Yikes.

Memes is two and five is so much worse.

So much worse.

I would.

Five is atrocious.

The jets might be on that list.

Yeah. The jets could be on that list. The Steelers, are they back? Is Rossi back, or did he play the jets?

See, we don't know.

We don't know. Yeah, this is a man. We. This whole room might be. This room. This room. No. This room might be. Well, no, because I I would like to address that because some people want me to put the Bears on the frauds tag. I don't think the Bears can win the Super bowl. That people have to understand. That year that we called the Vikings frauds, that was because people were saying they could go to the Super bowl.

Yeah, they had a negative point differential.

The Dolphins last year when they beat up on every bad team and lost the good teams, but everyone's like, they're still like a dangerous team. I was like, no, they're not. I don't think the Bears are a dangerous team yet in any respect. They have to prove it. They have to beat.

You guys are playoff team right now.

Yeah, but they have to beat good teams. I'm fully transparent. Just building something.

If it's Jaden versus Caleb, does the winner of that get to say, like, that's going to be, are they good or did they just beat the Bears or are they good or.

Yeah, did they beat the team that just beat the Browns in the Panthers, or are they good or they just beat the team? To beat the Jaguars in the Panthers?

I do feel like the worst good.

Jaden needs to play.

Yes, I want to play. This is no joke. My, my day in my entire week is so much better just because of that little, like, three hour window where I get to watch Jayden Daniels play football. That's why I was bummed out today. Yeah, we kicked the fuck out of the Panthers, which was awesome. Good defense looked good. Running game looked good. A lot of stuff looked good, but I didn't get that three hour window of watching my favorite athlete do unreal shit on the field while wearing the colors that I like to look at on tv.

I don't really care about that. I don't care about Jaden Daniels versus Caleb Williams.

Yeah. I don't care. I don't care.

That's.

I don't care that you don't care about Hank.

What are your thoughts?

We need it.

Max brought up a good point, though. Maybe the NFL just sucks. Like, half of the teams just suck.

I don't think half the team suck. I think the worst teams, there's. There are a lot of really bad teams.

Right. Hold on. Let's, let's just, let's just list. I'm going to say a team, and you tell me if they suck.

Okay, well, say good or good or bad or.

No, no, it tell me if they suck because there's teams that are in the middle, like the, I mean, the Bengals are not. They don't suck.

No, they don't.

Yeah. All right.

Or did they just beat the Browns.

No, QB, colts don't suck, right?

Yeah, it sucks.

Cold. See, they suck.

Yes, they're, they're shitty. They're shitty, but they don't suck.

Okay, here we go. Dolphins suck. Raiders, they suck. Jets suck.

Jaguars, still time.

The Jaguars suck.

Suck.

Yeah, suck. No, they suck. The Titans suck. Browns suck. Patriots suck. Okay, that's seven in the AFC.

Cowboys, they, they stink.

Yeah, I think they suck.

I just got smoked.

The, I'm just going under five.

I think cowboys and Bengals are the same.

I don't think cowboys, Bengals, jets are all, I disagree.

I got the Bengals are better than.

All those semi, and that's because of the probably QB.

I think the Bengals are better than all those teams.

I think the, the Cowboys, yeah, the Cowboys in the jets are very similar.

Okay, here we go. Cardinals, good. Now they don't. Okay. Rams, no. Saints, yes. Giants, yes.

Suck.

Panthers suck. So ten teams suck, but the majority of them are in the AFC. Seven of the ten teams that sucker. In the AFC. The AFC suck. Yeah. I think that's what the big, I think that's what we just figured out. The AFC sucks.

They do, yeah. And if you had asked me like three weeks ago, I would have said that the Broncos would be in that list, too.

The current Rams suck, but they won't suck.

I don't think they suck, though, because again, besides that one loss, they've been, they lost less than a touchdown to every other team. They put, they'd lost the rate, but they lost an overtime to the Lions. They lost by five to, to the packers. They lost by six to the Bears. Like, they don't suck.

I do think there's a difference between somebody, a team that sucks and a team that sucks but has a quarterback that I know is capable of not sucking.

Correct.

So Matt Stafford, he is very capable of not sucking. That means that the whole team as an entire unit, you can't say that they suck.

I think it's, I think it's a strong ten that suck. We didn't count the Rams to suck. You think they suck, huh, Max?

I don't, when they get their guys back, I don't think they will.

Okay.

I think that, I think that the current Rams suck.

Okay. Either way, I think that just proves. Yeah. The AFC is bad. The AFC, you can, it's basically, it's going to be a competition between the Bengals and I don't even think, I think the Bengals are going to be in the playoffs.

It's like the Chiefs, a bunch of teams that think that they can beat the Chiefs and then a bunch of teams that have completely given up on beating the Chiefs and are trying to build for the future. That's the AFC.

Right. And then the Ravens, because the Ravens are in that category of they are like extra. Think they could beat the chief. Yeah, but we know they can.

They think they know they can beat the Chiefs.

Right? They think that if they just, if they just flex a little bit and run the ball and then forget to run the ball, they could beat the Chiefs.

I actually think they know that. They think they can beat the Chiefs.

Right. But then the problem is the Chiefs know that they, the Chiefs know the Ravens think that they can beat the.

Chiefs, but they know that they can.

They know they can't.

Yeah.

Right.

Exactly. All right. So that was the entire NFL breaking down. Let's talk about the last game. Actually, second last game. Chiefs 49 ers. Chiefs 28 49 ers 18. I am the idiot who bet against Patrick Holmes is an underdog now. No, actually, I was going to make an excuse for myself and be like, well, Debo Samuel played three plays and Brandon IU probably is out for the year and Juwan Jennings was out, but there is no excuse. I'm just a moron and I should, I should just stop gambling or at.

Least on the Chiefs.

No, I just like, if you can't, if you just, if you try to outsmart Patrick Holmes underdog, you're just a moron, which guilty is charged. I'm a fucking moron.

And also Andy Reid off the buy.

And I learned my lesson last year on, in the Super bowl and I bet on Patrick Holmes in the Super bowl and I just was like, nah, you know what? I've got smarter.

The Chiefs were fucking around with the 49 ers today, too. Do you see that play that they ran where it was Carson Wentz and Patrick Mahomes in the back? That's what really sucked, actually, was within like five minutes. I had to watch Jaden get taken out of the game and then Carson Wentz on the field on the, on the Chiefs, which really bummed me out. But they, they ran a play where Carson gave like an inside handoff and then they had Mahomes trailing around. I'm going to predict Andy Reid's next fuck shit that he's going to do at some point this season. Season.

Yeah.

I think he's going to run a play with Carson Wentz and Mahomes on the field at the same time. Little inside handoff. Carson wentz to their running back, pitches it back to Mahomes. And then Mahomes throws for a touchdown, maybe even to Carson Wentz.

Yeah. Or maybe Mahomes throws it to Travis Kelsey, who then pitches it back to Carson.

Carson Wentz. Yeah. They're going to try to run like a good, fundamentally sound basketball offense, wherever you're not allowed to until every player touches the ball.

Yeah. The big story, though, here, and I know the Niners are dealing with a lot of injuries, but the Chiefs defense is just nasty. They're just nasty, nasty, nasty. They're nasty boys. They're, they fuck shit up. They stop the run, then they fuck you up another way. They turned Brock Purdy through three interceptions. This also, this is a stat that's about the Chiefs defense. And I obviously, I think highly Patrick Mahomes, he's the best quarterback in the NFL. Patrick Mahomes is the first quarterback since Peyton Manning in 2015 to start six and o with more interceptions than touchdowns.

Yeah. And he had, he had two picks today.

He has eight picks on the season, six touchdowns. Every single, every single game he's thrown a pick, he's doing the Will Levis. But it doesn't matter because the Chiefs defense is awesome and Patrick Holmes makes plays when he has to. And he also has figured out the perfect way to have everyone not tackle him when he's running along the sideline.

Yeah. Yeah. He, he acts like he's going to go out of bounds and then players pull up and then he does a little cutback, hops forward for like two yards.

He's just there. They just have a formula now that, and I think that Patrick Holmes will get better as the season goes along and he gets more comfortable with his receivers and Xavier Worthy and all that. But it doesn't matter because they'll just win whatever way they have to win. Like, Andy Reid's just pounding the rock now, which, which he historically never did. They ran the ball down their throats, 184 yards. I just. The Chiefs are just inevitable. There's nothing. I mean, what should we predict the Chiefs first loss? I don't really know. They're not going to lose the Raiders next week.

I wouldn't put it past the Raiders, though.

No, I would.

If there's one team that's, that's not going to pull up on Patrick when he goes to the sidelines, that would probably be the Raiders defense.

I'm going to say, I'm going to say their first loss is going to happen November 17 against the Bills, and then the Bills are gonna be like, we can beat the Chiefs. And they're gonna lose in the playoffs.

Let's see. Chief schedule.

I can see the Bucks. Bucks making some magic happen.

I can't wait to see what the Panthers Chiefs lines gonna be. 17.

I could see the Bucks beat him, too.

Yeah, maybe. But that's, that's in Kansas city, and that's a Monday night game. So, no, you can't.

Don't let your Steven Chase.

I'm not. I'm talking about Patrick Holmes. Monday Night Football.

That show.

That's. Yeah. There you go.

Hank, I've got big news on that front. Stephen Chae has been released by the Tampa Bay. Buck loves as a fan in order to gain more people's acceptance of that.

I love that.

Officially released. That was confirmed to me on Friday by a high level executive.

Good. Let me read a tweet for you, and you tell me if this is a good or bad thing or just. I don't even know what to make of it. This is from Grant Cohn, who covers the 49 ers. He said, kyle, Michael Shanahan just lectured Brock Purdy for five minutes at his locker. Purdy listened and said nothing. Never seen anything like it.

Are you talking about coaching? I was there swing coaching and lecturing.

The five minutes with nothing. Purdy saying nothing back. That's weird.

It is kind of strange. Purdy is a very good quarterback when you don't ask him to be your.

Entire offense, and now with all the guys out, he has to really handle a bigger load. And it fell apart today. Like he was, he was lost out there. And the Chiefs are just good. See, Spagnola is fucking good. He's. See, Spagnola, is he one. One in best coordinators who should never be a head coach again?

He's. Yes, I would.

Yes, Flores could be.

I think Vic Fangio is on that list.

I don't know. Floors is going to be a head coach coach, though, because he's got the lawsuits against the NFL, and he's probably going to be blackballed from that. And there's like, lost draft picks and fines and shit. I would say Spagnola is number one.

Cliff Kingsbury's on that list.

He is, but he will be a head coach.

He will be.

There so many dumb owners in the NFL that Cliff Kingsbury, a million percent will be. I hope he doesn't hope. He's coordinator for life.

Fangio is for sure on that list.

Yeah, Fangio is on that list.

But, yeah, he's Steve Shagnola. Like, just incredible. He might be one of the best defensive coordinators ever. And he was not that great of a head coach.

Yeah, sometimes you can't do it all.

Joe Brady, he hasn't had a chance as a head coach. True, true.

There's one that maybe recently is unemployed that I might put on that list.

Oh, yeah.

Salah.

Salah. Yeah.

Although, is he a bad head coach or was he just on the Jetse?

Yeah, that's probably just the jets. Yeah, we should probably talk about the jets. So the Steelers kick the shit out of the jets on Sunday night. Football was the final score. Memes 30 516 1530 615 30 715 30 815. What was it? Where?

I'll get the official Russian. 700.

1530 715. Russ. He kind of cooked.

Russie was good, man. He was throwing the moon ball again.

He. He sucked in the first quarter. He. He got booed. He was throwing the ball at people's feet. He was getting sacked. It was like, damn, we have seen this russ before. And then he just started saying, fuck it. I'm going to throw it up to George Pickens. I'm going to throw it up to Pat Friarmuth. And the one thing about Russell Wilson is he'll give his guys a chance. And he was doing that. And George Pickens can catch literally anything. And the Steelers defense started swarming. And the jets are now two and five. But they hit the Hasan Reddick button.

Yep. So that's their excuse this week.

Yeah.

I guess it's a reason to be happy. Happier than you would have been after this loss.

Who? What are you gonna do next week when you lose?

I would just like to apologize. Everybody listening?

Okay.

We suck. Yeah, we suck. We have no identity. We just were just a bad football team.

I'm beginning to doubt Ulbricht's credentials as an interim coach. He couldn't throw the challenge flag.

This is the only team in the history of football that has not gotten an interim bump. Yeah, there's just no juice anywhere. There's like, when one side of the ball is playing good, the other side is playing bad. When the offensive line is playing good, Aaron Rodgers plays Badlandhouse. Aaron Rogers can't turn fucking left.

Can I submit a theory to memes?

Yes.

Maybe you're not getting the interim bump because Robert Salah is still secretly coaching the team.

Well, his stink is all over the team.

Well, he's apparently calling and texting with all the coaches on a daily basis.

Who'd you hear that from?

That was Collinsworth on the broadcast tonight.

That's not good.

No. So that's what I'm saying, like, I don't know if you truly have an interim head coach right now.

I don't.

I don't know what we have. We just suck.

Well, is that not weird?

Yeah, so weird.

Yeah. So weird. And credit to Devontae Adams.

Devante Adams, a stud.

He's a stud. And he made a smart move. He went from a two and five team to a two and five team.

Good for him.

For a porsche. And brought him into a garage and just let it on fire and the fucking explode.

That's a great analogy.

His tackle was so sick.

Yeah, he didn't.

Oh, he plays defense.

No, he didn't give up.

You didn't see that.

No, I know, but he. You don't want Devante Adams tackling.

No, can't look left. There was on the interception that changed the entire game. Literally. So once that interception happened, the game just.

Are you talking about the Garrett Wilson?

Yeah, the get the first Garrett Wilson?

Yeah. Where it just hit him in the chest.

No, no, the first one. Oh, it was over the middle.

Oh, beanie got it. Yeah, he got it.

Devontae Adams would just run up the sideline wide open.

Oh.

And he just couldn't turn left.

I have a question.

Yeah?

Does Garrett Wilson suck?

Oh, good question.

I don't think Garrett Wilson sucks.

No, I don't think he sucks. I just feel like he's. He's not great.

I would say that was the interception that turned everything. When the ball went right off of him and then the Steelers returned it to, like, the four yard line. I think that was the one that changed the game.

You're right. But I'm saying the, the energy, you said while we were watching the game, like it was a freaky Friday situation between Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers. That's where that happened.

I think I said that. Did he throw three picks?

No, just do.

Okay. I think it was maybe when he threw it in the ground and just missed a wide open receiver. Yeah, he's.

When TJ jumped up, swatted it with two hands.

Yeah, it's. It's bad, memes. You guys are just. You're still the Jetse.

This is. It's so bad. We're as jets as, as possible, and you've.

You've reached the peak jets.

This is peak.

Where's. Where's your defense? Why you guys couldn't make a tackle? It was weird.

Well, I. We haven't been able to stop the run all season.

Reddick fixes this.

He also can't stop the run.

Oh, shit. Well, that's bad.

Aaron Rodgers Achilles screwed up the entire jets timeline.

You think everything was great before that happened?

You think that? Yeah. You think.

I mean, the team's good.

Yeah.

Were they?

The defense was good, at least.

Yeah.

So last year was Zach Wilson after week seven. No, no, I will.

No, no, no, no. These are. These are tainted.

Are you two and five right now?

Yeah.

Zach Wilson was four and three.

Oh.

Three. He was four.

And what's the tiny step that you didn't want us to bring up now?

The fucking Trey Wingo said, through week six, the jets had the same exact point scored from last season to this season.

It sounds like a Florio to me.

Yeah, but they're full. They're foreign. They were four and three, so. They were four and three.

Yeah, I think the year before that, they were five and one.

Oh, man. So.

So bring Zack back.

Bring Zack back. I think.

No, the defenses on those teams were incredible. And now we just can't stop the run. We could put.

We can put Max out here.

There were six, and he'll. He'll destroy our defense.

There's.

Yes.

Fact.

I fucking run. Run.

Oh. When you had Mike Whitehead in 2021, you were. You were to it. You were two and five. Same record as this year, memes.

Also just going through this remaining schedule and just telling me wins. They're like, that's a win. That's a win.

Who's a win?

Okay, let's go, memes. There's no wins left after tonight?

No, there's wins.

No, there's wins, but there's no. You guys will win another game. You're not hearing what I'm saying, though. There's no. Oh, that's guaranteed a win.

I see one.

Get the Patriots at the end of the year.

They have the Patriots next week.

Next week.

Way to be on top of the schedule, Henry.

All right, Patriots is a win.

Houston defense could be.

No, no, no. We're done with this exercise, all right? We know you're not.

No, no, no, no. I'm refusing to accept that as a loss because you truly think that they can win that game if.

If the defense looks better with us on Reddick. But that's the thing. It's just coming together as a team, and they just can't come together as a team. You add Devante Adams, he gets open. You just have to throw him the ball, and you can't even look left. All right, let's do. Let's go back to the actions of the Patriots.

Good question.

Great question, Max.

I'll see you when I see you.

Alright, New England, a win. Win. Houston will go loss. Okay. Arizona, win. Okay.

Indianapolis, Sunday night football, we're not great on primetime.

Can they flex that?

Yeah, I think so.

The jets have had like a hundred primetime games.

If they flex it, win.

Okay. Seattle at home, win. Miami with maybe two about.

With two at Miami.

Miami, okay. At Jacksonville, win.

Los Angeles Rams, depending who they have back. But isn't their defense terrible?

Well, we. Just. Say it.

You got to make the playoffs.

Defense is terrible.

Yeah, say it.

Win.

Okay. Buffalo.

At Buffalo, lost.

Okay. Miami at home, win. So you. And this is like the best case scenario.

You have nine wins and we'd miss the playoffs.

Yeah.

I don't know. The hours bad, though, memes.

No, you gotta. You gotta win them all. Pretty much. You gotta win them all.

It's time for the run the table.

You gotta run the table. You gotta hit the run the table button, memes.

We have to. We already have to run the table.

Well, your best record. The best record you go right now is twelve and five. That's winning every single game. You have to imagine that you're gonna lose at least two more games. So that's ten and seven. And probably you're gonna lose three more games. So that's nine and eight. That would be a. You'd be finishing seven and three and you would finish. Sorry. Yeah, yeah, seven and three and you finish nine and eight. You're gonna go seven and three with this team.

I don't think so.

Okay.

I think the season's over.

Yeah, it might be.

I feel like you have. You can lose to the Patriots. And that's when Aaron Rodgers smashes the run the table button. Well, after, like, a devastating loss.

And what do you do?

If.

You know what, memes? I'm gonna give you this. I'm gonna give you this. This is a. This is. I've said this before in this show that you have a portal game. Remember I used to talk about portal games where if the bit, like, I would be like, if the Bears win this game, then it opens up a portal of happiness to where I could see things happening.

Okay.

The Houston Texans is your portal.

Yeah.

You beat them. You beat the Patriots. If you beat the Texans, everything is back. If you lose, the Texans shut it down.

That's the portal managers, fire sales.

That's it. That, yeah. And you got a fire ulbrick. You got a fire ulbricht. He's Beam C or Max. It's a portal game.

Can we play whose line it is? Is it anyway? For at New England.

Yes. Yes.

We keep just.

You know what? Win. Yeah. All right. Rowback question. Rho back.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. QZ polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code take. Hank, whose line is anyway? Draft kings.

Whose line do you think it is anyway?

I think it's jets. Heavily favored.

I think it's jets minus.

They're favored by seven and a half.

I think we were seven and a half last time at home.

I. Five. I think it's jets minus eight. No, jets minus six. Drake May. Drake May changes it.

I was gonna. Minus three.

It is the New England Patriots plus six and a half.

Okay.

Okay, okay.

So not a win.

Hank, how do you feel about that.

Game, Hank, if you win this game. Oh, my Super bowl.

Yeah.

Wow.

This. This is a portable game for Hank.

This is an. What? An undercard for the Caleb Williams versus Marcus Mariota.

We just did this.

And you almost killed me when I walked in the.

You wanted to punch him that night.

Yeah, I don't think I'll get to that point this time.

That was back when the jets were two and one.

Yeah, no, I won't punch him this time.

It does feel like a completely different team from a month ago, doesn't it?

Yeah.

Well, you guys won that game. I don't think you've won since.

No, they've not. That was their last win.

I think we. The only teams we beat are both one and five.

Yes, that would be correct.

Yep.

Actually, the Patriots are one in six.

One six.

Yeah. The Titans are one in five.

Yeah. Beating one in five teams. This is actually good. That means you're a good team.

Yeah. Well, you have to. I mean, two and five, play who you play. I think Russ is back, though.

I think the Steelers are good.

I do, too.

The defense is obviously. They've been good for the last. It feels like five seasons.

Tonight was a masterclass in Mike Tomlin. Voodoo. It was like block kicks, receivers having balls, like, bounce off them into a Steelers hand, batting down balls the line. Renegade just fucking bumping.

Run the football.

Run the football. They ran the fuck out of the football.

And Russell Wilson loves George Pickens. That's the biggest. George Pickens probably pretty happy for the first time, maybe in his life, after the football game today, because Russell Wilson was like, I see George downfield. I'm just going to throw the ball up because he can win a one on one catch against anybody in the league. And keeping him. You have to. He's like, a child with add, you have to, like, snap and be like, hey, pay attention. Pay attention. Best way to do that is by giving the football all the time giving him the football. And I feel like George Pickens respects Ross for the fact that he gets the football and also the fact that George Pickens broke the news on Friday that Russell Wilson was going to be starting. I would have loved to see a camera on Mike Tomlin when somebody told him, hey, listen, George just talked to the media and he gave away your starting quarterback.

It was back to back stories. Mike. Tom was like, we don't know who we're going with on Sunday night. And then 20 minutes later, George Pickens is like, yeah, I've been working extra hard with Russell Wilson after practice every day.

Yeah. Yeah. Which I think maybe Russell Wilson respects George for saying that.

Yeah.

For naming him as the starting quarterback. He doesn't want to let him down.

Russ. Russ was cooking. He was cooking. Russell Wilson throws two touchdowns.

He's not afraid to throw it across the middle of the field. That's the thing. The Steelers just, they don't use. They've got reverse blinders on where they're like, we're not going to even glance at the middle of the field if we're throwing a pass. Now, Ross was, he was doing that. He was rolling out. He didn't look fast, but he looked more athletic than I thought he would look.

Yeah. I think I'm going to take the Giants, though, next week, now that I'm looking at it, because that's, that's a classic Tomlin letdown spot.

Is it home or where?

It's home.

Are they wearing the block letters? That's big. Now the block letters are five and.

Oh, those block letters were huge numbers. Massive. Yeah, numbers were massive. Okay, so that's, that's our full week. Seven. We have a World Series. Oh, no. Memes, is your mic still on?

We can talk about the liberty later.

Yeah, the Liberty. You're sick.

Memes, your mic is still on.

It's on.

So the Mets lost.

Mets lost.

Yeah.

Went outside. I thought the wrestler was gonna save the season.

I did, too. I really did think the Rinslers gonna save the season. Season. Incredible run for the Mets. The Dodgers are just so goddamn good. They are. They are insanely, insanely good. It just felt like every at bat, they just grind you down, they beat you up. And we saw it. Like they're, they have hitters everywhere. They got what, what's the guy who's just hitting everything now?

Max Edmond.

Edmond Tommy Edmund.

You need one over 800 in the NLCs.

That's crazy.

And I feel like the Dodgers, too. Like, I don't still even understand what the Dodgers rotation is because they just have so many bullpen arms that are just always warming up and ready to mow people down.

I think they just kind of go off vibes, and then they're like, we trust our lineup to get more runs.

Yeah.

So we'll just kind of tread water for a while. Ohtani. Do you see that? Ohtani is 18 of 23 with runners in scoring position. It's insane. Yeah, like, that's. That's.

Well, they show it every time.

It's crazy, though. That's a. That's a crazy stat.

Yeah.

And then he stinks leading off.

He stinks leading off. And. But the. The Dodgers are an absolute wagon, and they're going up against the Yankees. Yankees, Dodgers. I know there's people who are probably upset about it. I don't. I mean, it's going to be a good World Series. Like, they're the two best teams. Yeah.

I think if it's not a team that you're rooting for in the World Series, you want to have the two best teams with the two most explosive lineups. It's going to be fun.

A couple things that have been funny that I've noticed. One is just purely anecdotal, so I think most Yankee fans don't feel this way, but I was doing my fantasy corner this morning, and a Yankee fan was like, why are people so bitter about the Yankees making the World Series? And I was just like, are you actually asking me that question? Like, you guys haven't been here long enough that you don't realize that, like, the Cowboys and the Yankees are just. Everyone just grows up hating them.

That's definitely, like, an 18 year old, that speaker.

Zero. Yeah. Like, they're. They're called the only one. Shit. Right? So that's a new Yankees fan. But that's just. Just. That's just. You just hate them because they always spend the most money. That's just what you do. And I don't really like. I don't hate hating Yankees, but it's like, yeah, of course they spend the most money. I actually like some of the guys on the Yankees, but it was a crazy question to just have posed to me, and the other one was everyone. And this happens with every sport, but being like, I'm gonna say something nice about the Yankees. Being like, the Yankees had the easiest path in the history of sports. Hey, that's why you play a regular season. The Yankees got the one seed. The Astros started incredibly slow, and one team that can beat the Yankees. Seems like every year the Astros, they started incredibly slow, had to scratch and claw to be a wild card team. When you're a wild card team, anything can happen. You can lose in the first round, and then the AL Central is a bunch of teams that were good, but they also beat the fuck out of the White Sox all year.

So this is like, this is why you play a regular season. Yeah.

And also just enjoy the fucking World Series between the two best lineups in sports. Correct. It's going to be a lot of home runs, and we're going to be happier for having watched it.

Juan Soto, that at bat last night was one of the coolest things I've ever seen. He was so locked in, and he essentially said, I'm just going to foul off every pitch until you throw me a fastball, and then I'm going to hit the fastball 400, and.

Yeah, then the.

But also, like, shake my head after every pitch.

Yeah. He was like. You could tell he was just locked. I've never seen a batter more locked in.

He didn't take eye contact off of the pitcher the entire time. First pitch, missed the zone by, like, I don't know, three inches, and he just stared through the pitcher's soul, and you knew, okay, Juan Soto is going to do his one soda thing. It's not going to be fair. And then the one fastball that he got was supposed to be above the zone, and then he missed that by, like, six inches down at the top of the zone, and then Soto turned on it, and it was just a moonshot.

See, I. Yeah, that's the thing is with these Yankees, like, I don't even hate the players on the Yankees. They're not even that hateable. It's just, I mean, I like Juan Soto. I obviously know I love Rizzo.

Like, Rizzo. The catchers. Catchers got a great look.

I I'll say it. This is crazy. I'm sure I like Giancarlo because he's just like. He's a fucking. He looks like the incredible Hulk, and he just gets up and just gets a piece of the ball. How do you feel about 500 yards?

How do you feel about Aaron Judge?

Aaron judge? I'm kind of hit or miss.

I. Aaron judge. I. I will absolutely, 100% say that he is not a true Yankee if he doesn't win a World Series.

Well, that's a fact.

Not a World Series I think the.

Only guy I really don't like is I don't like Garrett Cole. And I think it's just because I don't like his shaven face and I. It's something about his vibe. Yeah.

He kind of sacrificed who he was.

Yeah.

Yankee.

And he always wanted to be a Yankee. There. There was a. That famous, like, picture of him at the World Series in, like, 2001 or something.

Yeah. Well, also, basically, any kid that grew up in that era at some point was a Yankee fan because they were winning everything.

Was it 2009? Yeah, it might have been. Oh, no. Garako is a little older, though. Yeah. But you might be right. Garrett Cole is 34, so. Yeah, yeah, no, it was probably 2001. Yeah.

He was a fan of those teams.

What, he was, like nine years old.

He's five years younger than me and big cat.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Juan Soto. Yeah. So, like, but it just. And I don't really like the Dodgers either, because they spend a lot of money, too, but that's also baseball. Like, I don't really. It is what it is. Like, would it be fun if there was some scrappy. We had that last year. Well, I guess the Rangers spent a lot of money, but the Diamondbacks.

Yeah. Guess what? You say that you want the young, scrappy teams, and then you don't watch the World Series.

This World Series is going to fucking rock.

Let's talk. Let's talk best.

Shohei. Oh. Tani versus Aaron judge. And I still don't know. I don't know how a pitcher deals with the Yankees lineup. The Soto judge, Giancarlo, like, three in a row is just. It's insane.

If I was a manager, I would just. I would do it all based on lefty versus lefty. Right.

They were saying last night, they're like, you should watch what? You should walk Juan Soto. It's like, to.

For Aaron Judge, but then the Dodgers have a bad.

Yeah.

And Freddie Freeman.

Yeah, it's crazy. It's. It's going to be awesome. I'm. I'm. I know people will hate on this World Series. I wish it was a subway series just for our own personal content at Barstool, but this is going to be awesome. And it also feels like. I'll say this, too. It feels like these two teams have been circling each other for, like, the last five years, and we finally get it, you know what I mean? Because the Dodgers have won a World Series. Yankees have gone to a bunch of Alcs's. You. You feel like we finally get what we've all wanted is having this matchup.

So I'm looking at the. The ratings because that's what we truly care about.

Yeah.

Last year, 9.08 million average.

Okay.

I'm predicting 14 million average for this one.

Whoa.

That's. That's what we're talking about. We're talking about ratings.

Let's talk about ratings.

Talk about ratings, baby.

We also, I should say the Guardians, as sad as they went out, that was one of the most exciting five game series of all time.

Yeah. I mean, it had some thrillers.

What, how many did to the last two games went to extras. Like it was. We had walk offs. It felt like every game, lead changes was a lead change. Late and class A. I don't know what I was.

A series.

Yeah, he was. You guys see the. There was the clip of his catcher going around from earlier this year. No, his catcher did an interview and he said that he thought that class A was the best pitcher of all time. Better than Mariano Rivera.

I want my catcher saying that.

Yeah, but I think. I think what, he ended up giving up six earned runs in these playoffs. I think Mariano Rivera gave up like eleven earned runs in his entire career. In the playoffs.

Yeah, that's.

That's a bad one. It's a bad one.

That's a ride or die catcher.

It's a ride or die catcher. But yeah, I'm excited for this world series. I think it's gonna be a great World Series.

I think it's gonna be awesome.

Yeah, I want to go seven. It's been a great playoffs. Been a great fucking playoffs. And the Mets were. That was a magical ride. Mets. Maybe you'll get the one thing that's very funny that's going on right now is just Mets fans being like, well, we're gonna get Juan Soto.

Yeah.

It's pissing off Yankees fans so bad.

So what do you think Juan Soto's contract going to be?

A billion dollars.

You think it's gonna be more than show Haze?

It could be. I don't know. I don't know. I just said a billion dollars. But I wouldn't be shocked if they were like, Juan Soto signs for twelve years, a billion dollars.

I mean, it's Scott Boris. So Scott Boris is going to. He will get the most money possible for Juan Soto.

And he's still 25.

He's 25. I'm.

He'll make a billion.

I think he's going to get.

Oh, yeah, easily.

I think he's going to be Shohei's contract.

Show hates contract. To remind you was ten years, 700 million.

Won't be. He won't be.

I don't think it'll be show hate because show hey member is still a pitcher.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Players.

Yeah. But what do you think it's gonna be ten year, I mean, will be.

Ten years, 600 million be over 500.

Yeah.

Even. It depends because you can give them so many years. Like that's, that's a difference. Like Shohei is gonna get ten show. Hey, only got ten years. Like Soto could legit. Could get close to like 13.

Yeah. What a price. Get how many years of Bryson he got 13. Yeah. So you could do that.

I've got an idea.

Bryce harbor got 13 years, 330,000,000.

Honestly, such are you.

That's a, that's an insane steal. Yeah, so, so he, so he could get a Soto, could get like 13 years, 750 million.

I did not. He won't get that much.

I think it's because when, when Shohei signed with the Dodgers, some people were saying like, they might not even use him as a pitcher.

But here's the thing, Max, that you're forgetting. He is. Shohei was never real or Shoehe felt like was never really going to go to New York. It felt like he was going to stay in LA. And I know that there was LA still had to offer him a ton of money. Soto, it feels like, loves New York and it's going to be a literal bidding war between the Mets and the Yankees. So he's got the two, the two big dogs, just. They're going to have to get in a bidding more.

But I don't know that he has any loyalty to the city of New York.

I feel like he seems like he's.

I'm sure he's enjoying his time there than the World Series. But I think that Soto, through Boris is strictly a like highest bidder guy. So that could be the Yankees very much good possibility is the Mets. But then, I mean, I don't want to say that the nationals were getting vote, but they might, there's no but they might.

Like you can justify Shohei's contract. The next biggest contract is 426 million at twelve years.

Right.

But is he 24?

He's 20. You know, he's going to be, he's going to be 26 in like two days.

Like Juan Soto might be the best baseball player of all time.

Trout signed that at 27, so.

Right. Say, but that was what, how many years ago? Six years ago.

I get. But Mookie just signed this 365 for twelve movie bets is not, I'm saying over 500. I don't think I'll get six.

Okay, we'll make a bet. Loser has to get a one soto tattoo.

If I got a Yankees or Mets.

Loser owes loser. Loser owes the winner one 10th of one soda's contract. Oh. Either way, I'm pumped for the. For the World Series. Gonna be great. It's gonna be fucking great. And we get to also get stories from the reporters having to travel coast to coast. Yeah.

Thoughts and prayers.

Thoughts and prayers.

The opposite of a subway series.

Yeah. Memes, any last thoughts on the Mets before we finish up with who's back of the week?

It was a fun season. I really did think the Rizzler was gonna come through for us. I know everything lined up, but it was a good season when we lost to the better team. If they. Hopefully they win it, because I fucking hate the Yankees.

Yeah.

And congrats, Max.

And congrats, Max. You were very happy.

Yeah. Now, I'm really sorry that we don't get to watch any more Mets games, but there's always next year, I guess.

Memes is gonna fucking kill one of us. I like, honestly, Hank, you might have to stand out and not win this game. Yeah.

Just don't win.

Don't win.

I'm just as excited for that game. The more. The more that I think about it.

Memes, are you more broken up about the jets? Are you more broken up about the Mets?

Because I feel like somebody asked me that last week. They were like, oh, how do you rank it? It's like, if they're. If they're in it, I'm in it. It. Like, I don't care who's playing. I'm in New York, liberty, whatever. Like, I'm a fan.

Mm hmm.

And that's it. There's no ranking, but jets.

No, it's jets.

You're definitely.

But like.

You just said, like, the Mets next season, it sounds like there's some optimism if you're a Jets fan or a Mets fan.

Yeah.

There's always optimism with the Mets, because if they're always capable of making this run, the jets just.

No, but it's different this year, isn't it? It's like, this is the team that wasn't supposed to do it. And the magical run that you guys went. I feel like most Mets, like, 2015.

Only Daniel Murphy obviously bummed out about.

Losing, but at the same time, they're like, we have a good core team that we can build around.

Oh, yeah. There's so much hope.

We need. We need Jaden Daniels. To play and we need the Patriots to beat the jets. And I think we might have the most listened to. Pardon my take without a guess.

What do you think the formula is for the, for the Commanders Bears game to get the most ratings?

It's got, it's, it's got to be one. One has a perfect passer rating and the other throws five interceptions. We just need one. Oh.

Out is scenario.

Either way, one of you to walk away with thinking you have a better quarterback. That's it.

Yeah.

Yes.

One game is not going to change my opinion.

No, it will.

Oh, oh.

That thought will seep into your head.

It won't.

One of you.

I guarantee you won't.

But the stakes are the Eagles playing.

We play the Bengals.

All right, so you need to get me the eagles to get blown out or the Patriots to beat the jets and then one of our quarterbacks to be awful while the other one's incredible.

Hear me out.

That will be the most listened to part of my take episode without a guest ever.

Hear me out. Commanders bears three to nothing, five interceptions amongst the two quarterbacks, just terrible performances all around. I hate this Patriots 40 piece. The Jets Drake may 5 touchdowns, perfect pass rate.

Oh, that would be phenomenal.

That's, that's the formula.

Jalen hurts hammer on the patch throws four interceptions.

Yep.

Well, no, but then it's the one, two, three.

Yeah.

Who are the Eagles are playing? The Bengals.

I think regardless. No one cares about the Eagles next week.

No, if you get blown out, we'll, we'll make sure that that gets talked.

Sirianni fired and Big Dom promoted to head coach.

Yeah. Sirianna cries at midfield and they have to take him out on a stretcher cuz he's crying.

But it's a road like, what do you mean? Like he's not good. He doesn't have to worry about like the fans.

Hanks a sick fuck for thinking.

Yeah.

Yes. You really are.

You asked the question, what is the formula? And I gave you the formula. I gave you the answer.

I don't think that's right.

You asked the question, I gave you the correct answer and now you're giving me x on my test cuz I.

Don'T like the answer. But it's right because it makes me feel bad.

He's thinking about the future of this show, I think.

What's best? Ratings?

He's being a good executive producer over there.

Thank you. Official title.

I like it. I like it a lot. They don't do anything.

Oh, I got one other that well now I'll throw in one other thing. I'm not gonna throw on the other thing.

No, throw it. Throw them in there.

76 ers play earlier in that day.

Yeah, who cares? We don't root for entries. Big cat.

No.

Oh.

If we're just. If we're trying to figure out what the most radius could possibly be.

No. No one will care. No one will care if Joel B.

Plays and then doesn't play again this year.

October Sunday basketball is not going to get the peep like Jade. Everyone wants Jaden and Caleb and Drake made it go off.

I just slipped that in.

I agree.

And Drake made it go off. Every aw punished. You should be. You should be punished.

I give him my rib.

It's your fault. If Jaden play.

Just makes like. Yeah. If you're an AW El sitting out there, you're just hoping the Jaden plays and the Drake may goes off. That's all you're thinking about.

He's going to play. What I'm going to report right now. James Jade Daniels.

I like that.

James going to play.

Can I tweet it? Yeah. All right. Yeah, I'm a tweet right now.

Are you going to credit it?

Yeah. I'm gonna say Pft is just reported on. Pardon my take. The Jaden Daniels will be playing because.

He knows how much this means to us as a podcast.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

And I think that he. That thought has gone through his mind. I should dm his mom to see.

Why don't you do the course light ad read last one we got and then I'm gonna report this and we'll see what people say.

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Okay, I have reported it. Here's what I said. PfT has just reported on part of my take that Jaden Daniels will play next Sunday against the Bears because jaden knows how important this is to our show. Please credit PFT commenter and also ask, pardon my memes for a call of duty code. He's giving them away if you tweet at him.

Okay, that's good.

Think that covered every I think I got it all. Yeah.

Did you add anything about Drake?

Man, I didn't. Shit, I forgot about Drake.

May do add a add a thread.

Also Hank wants it clear that most also, I don't think you can just.

Say also just so everyone's on the same page.

We all, we all show once it reported that everyone is thinking about Drake.

May 1 and foremost, big time doing going off.

I'm thinking about Drake may going off right now. It would be great though, seeing just the patriots destroy the jets. Drake maybe three touches and I'm not even ruining against the matt the jets. I want to make this very clear. I got no ill will towards the jets. But I do love seeing you hate the jetse.

You're Florio commenter.

What do you think I said to Florio? I told him to suck my dick.

Yeah, but you hate the jets.

I don't hate the jets. I have no, no animosity towards the jets.

The amount of times memes talks about how much you hate the jets while his mics off back here. It's the whole show.

Is it the whole show?

You think I do too many insult stats?

Well, there's a lot of them.

I think you hate the jets.

I don't hate the jet.

Drake making it.

I promise you I don't hate the jets.

Okay, I've updated it. I said also Hanny's wants it reported that he thinks aw els are thinking about Drake may quote unquote going off against the jets more than the Bears Commanders game. Tune into a great PMT tomorrow. You can hear this reporting in real time feels good. Number one, Drake may going off. Number two, Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams playing against each other. Number three, no injuries in the Sixers game. Number four, Eagles. Nick Sirianni having a mental breakdown.

Do you think we maybe would get more rated? What if the lighthouse fell over?

This is the biggest Sunday.

Wait, there's.

There's one other big one.

There's one other. There's one other big x factor, although I don't know if there's a buy.

What?

Jamis.

Oh, is Jamus playing next week?

That would.

This will be the biggest Sunday of our lives.

James beating the Ravens.

Oh, my God. Biggest Sunday of our lives.

I'll also be in Matt Madison on Sunday for Penn State. For Penn State?

No gives a fuck about Penn State. Wisconsin.

Max Flacco gets in.

That's already happened, though.

Yeah, but he could do it again.

Wow. This is gonna be the biggest Sunday of our lives. And your cowboys play Sunday night. Sunday Night Football.

Oh, yeah.

Right after Drake May goes off. All right, who's back the week? Let's finish it up.

My. Who's back in the week? I got a couple. First one is Shaw Leclair.

Charles Leclerc.

Charles Leclerc. F one. He is the United States Grand Prix 2024 champion.

Yeah. Hell, yes.

He won the Austin race.

Oh, yeah, I saw that race.

He won the Austin race. I had it on. We had it on in the. In the gambling cave in the afternoon on one of the screens. Fun to watch a little f one. I've been watching drive to survive. We almost went to the Vegas race last year. PFTI. I wish we had gone, and I wish I was going this year. That's how haven't coming up in a couple of weeks.

Right.

It's back in Vegas this year. They're running it through the strip this time. They have, like, staying set up in the Bellagio fountain. It looks sick.

Oh, that's awesome.

So f one's back. Charlotte Claire, United States grand Prix champion.

When is the Vegas one?

Couple weeks, I think. November.

Nice.

I'm pumped.

It's actually definitely November. I just don't know exactly.

You're going to have to give us a rundown on it. I want a full breakdown.

Yeah, my other was back. Pft is you. I don't know how. You invaded my algorithm. Yeah, but you playing freebird, there's like a thousand video.

Yeah, I've seen them. Yeah, yeah.

There's like a. There's. There's like a thousand videos of accounts that just post you playing free bird. It's cool.

Well that's.

But I seen, I saw one and I've seen 20 this weekend.

That. Are you talking about on x.com the.

Everything on tick tock and it's everything app.

What's that? Memes.

You made my feed too?

Oh cool.

I've seen you a bunch. Yeah.

With aggregators doing it. Right.

Yeah, it's like Pft. Yeah. Then every, everyone the comments like this guy should do a podcast.

Wait, like wait, hang on, hang on. So it's not like Barstool.

No, no, it's random. It's random accounts and they're getting lots of likes.

What are they saying?

Just like ribbon. Yeah.

How much did you pay them?

I have. This is the first time I thought he was talking about like Robbie's fees.

No, no, it's like random. It's, it's a clip aggregator of Max's rates. Like one of these accounts, it just post random clips, but it's just like PFT plays free bird. I think I liked one and then I've seen legitimately a hundred.

I should retire. I'm gonna retire from playing free bird. Go out on top.

Yeah. You're, you're all over my feet. Congrats.

Sweet. Thank you. Thank you. I bring that across my desk. My, who's back the week is going to be kicking battles.

Yeah.

So there's a couple programs out there that are lacking, shall we say, at the college space in the field goal kicking department. I think I'm going to retire from playing guitar. I'm going to retire from playing freebird. And I think I'm going to train because big cat texted me over the weekend. Can I say the schools that I work with because there's a couple out there. But Arizona State is apparently holding open tryouts on Monday.

Yeah. Kenny Dillingham, who's a friend, said after the game that our kick, our kick kickers are so bad we need to hold open tryouts. And I was like, shit. So I hit him up.

I think I've got a grad year.

Yeah.

So I would love to get a graduate degree from Arizona State.

He actually is trying to find a kicker like right away. So we probably can't do it fast enough to get you enrolled. But I've gotten verbal confirmation from him that you will get a tryout in the offseason. And then if you get, if you make it, then we'll just get you in school.

Okay. So I'm going to try to work the leg back up to. I think I can get to 44 yards if I give myself two months of training.

Yeah.

But now I got something to work for.

Yeah.

Hank dunking me, kicking a 44 yard field goal.

We might have to go to Arizona.

What's less likely?

Does Arizona have golf?

I don't think so.

Might have to go to Arizona. Shit. Shit. What's. What's your other who's back?

Oh, that's my who's back?

Oh, cuz I'll just one.

I'll just do.

Yeah.

My who's back is not Hank, because I got some bad news to report. He. I think the word was I'm cooked.

Oh. Just doing private conversations down. Well, that's fine.

It's Hank.

Keep that in mind.

Well, no, I mean, I. I don't have to say. I didn't say what you're cooked about.

No, let it.

Let her know it's fine. Well, he brought. He brought up the thing that. The. The dunking verse kicking, and you were like, I don't really know. Well, how's it, Duncan going?

I need to lose some weight.

Where are you at? We. The people need, like, the people it is. Have interest where you've gone zero dark 30 on the US.

I'm gonna. There will be interest. I'm. The last month will be hype. I'm just. I don't want to also, like, create interest on something I know I can't do. I'm.

Do you think you can't do it?

I'm still. I still think I could do it.

What do you owe us if you can't do it?

$4,000 each.

Okay, nice.

I'll let you get out of it right now for $3,000 to me.

No.

Okay. That sounds a good deal.

Bad finance. That's good deal.

I want to do it. I'm training.

I know you want to. I'll let a lot of think I'll.

Let you get out of it for $0. We can wipe the slate clean if you agree not to play golf.

No way. No.

This week, but.

Okay, we're gonna say, max, December comes.

Around and you can't dunkin but you're kind of close.

What?

Will you continue to.

Yeah. Will you give up goal?

Yeah, that's basically what I'm asking.

We'll see if I'm. If I'm. If I'm. Yeah, I'll probably try and keep doing it. Just so even if. Even if I lose the money, I would like to be able to, you know, prove my point.

So how close are you right now?

I still need, like, five inches. The I'm 180 pounds. I was like 171 pounds in July. So I need to lose some weight, basically.

You look good, though.

I know, but imagine, imagine jumping with a ten pound. How much more you could jump if you didn't have a ten pound weight on your chest.

Yeah. Is that where it, imagine all the time.

Hmm.

It's on your chest?

Well, no, like, I'm just saying, like.

Hypothetically, why don't you come start playing ball with us on Fridays?

I will.

Yeah. Get a little sweat in. But we played a game to eleven on Friday that took us to about 35 minutes.

I think you can do it so bad. Don't give up the dream.

Don't give up.

I'm not giving up. Also, my might be cooked, but I'm not giving up.

My real who's back is. We're just trying to, you know, we want people to get, I'll just say.

It since you had to say the story now. I'm not giving up. I don't care. But I was working out. Trainer, like, brought, he kind of just brought out the vertical leap thing when I wasn't ready for it. Like, I was like, I don't, whoa, what are we doing here?

Yeah.

All right, let's see. And it was not as much progress. I liked, you know, blindly thinking that I'm making good progress.

You should have never jumped.

So when we jumped and it wasn't as. It was still progress, but not as much progress as I had hoped for, I was like, fuck that. And then I came and saw you right after. So that you saw me in, in my darkest time, that was, that's like.

My, that's like every diet that I've ever gone on where it's like, don't.

Step on the scale.

First two weeks. Yeah, first two weeks are awesome because you lose a lot of water weight. And then the third week you step on the scale and you're like, fuck, why'd I do that?

Just do the steroids.

Do the steroids. Take the steroids. Other things that we should bring up because it is a good way to get people excited about videos that are coming up because I'm sure we'll have a big video stream for the, for the dunk off, which is not close.

Like, what are we gonna do without.

To do it well? And also you still get the shots.

We're doing that December 22, by the way. We can put the date on it.

But you also get to shoot.

That's not. Never gonna happen, but you still get a chance.

We get. Probably start shooting yeah, you still get a chance. We're still working on max pitching, so hopefully we'll have, I don't know, in the next month or so. That video do. When is our golf video coming out with Bob? Does sports, do we have a date on that?

I got to talk to them.

To them. And then Hank is also gearing up for his stream. So we. So you're going to do the nine daughter video soon? We're going to have the baseball video soon and hanks going to dunk. I want you to shoot. I think you're going to be. I think you might get crazy.

And just now, is he allowed to. He's allowed to try to dunk, fail and then try to attempt the shots? Does he have to declare I have failed at dunking? I'm going to do the shot.

I want to see both. I want to see both. For sure, for sure, for sure.

I will. I can start posting. I have been doing a little bit of testing and I have thought about doing this as like a, for social. But the, the way I'm going to dunk, even if I am able to do it, it's going to piss people off because I'm basically going to have a super inflated ball. I'm going to throw it so that it bounces off the ground. I basically need to perfect bouncing a ball so that it bounces and lands in the hoop.

Yeah.

And then I'm going to guide it on the way down. But I will start posting some of the videos of me practicing that. Because like if you, if you see the final form of the dunk, it will be like the I'm so dunk. But I. It will be a technical dunkin because. But whatever. I have to get really like that part of it is hard.

Really are not easy.

How many chances do you get at it?

Yeah. Until January 1.

Yeah.

Cuz he could probably only get up that high with his first like ten jumps.

Yeah, right. So I need to get the next, like how inflated. No, no.

Fuck up. No, no, I'm on Hank side. No, no. January 1.

I said I could dunk a basketball by the summer 1st.

January 1. Yeah, he gets as many chances he wants. If he wants to just go live and just be like.

I could say like a hundred chances. But if we're doing a stream, there has to be an end.

No, no, January 1. Stop saying defensive. January 1.

Wait, is it January 1 or December 31?

It's New Year's.

New Year's. But Friday the 22nd, we're going on break. Like, I'm a break. So it's Friday. The 20 seconds is Sunday, by the way.

I can't wait.

Whatever. You guys are so annoying.

So I'm just saying as like a.

You know what he's scared of? He's scared of Drake may going off.

I want Drake made off. I'm saying this as like a dream. It's going to be your own. That, that, like, we're just, doesn't matter to.

I'm with Hank. He gets him also.

Pft's right. I get unlimited attempt. I will only be able to do.

It, but I'm within.

Like, I am.

Yeah, I am.

Now the jumps, Max. What's he jumps as?

Theory.

I get unlimited.

Yes.

Limited. I'm very excited about this super inflated ball. Little throw.

That does have to be the regulation size. It does, right?

It does. Cannot be a women's ball.

No. How inflated enough to bounce and bounce.

It basically to the point of it breaking.

I needed to be like, just dropping it.

Why does the inflation matter?

So bounces all the way up.

Like, I've tried it with the balls we have here.

They're not. He's gonna got, he's basically has to, have to, has to perfectly coordinate a ball bouncing on the ground, going all the way in, and he just gets up right at the last second and just places it. Excited for this. That's hard.

I know.

That might be harder than dunking.

I know.

Oh, man.

But to Hank's point, you're probably not gonna jump every single time you attempt to throw the ball up because you're gonna have a lot of misses.

Do you want, would you like me to try to get no ball part?

This is the thing that, like, as I'm doing the training, I I can do a million of those a day.

You know what he should do that.

I have time to do?

You should get the shooting gun.

You do a million of those. What?

You should get the shooting gun dialed in.

Oh, yeah.

At the angle so it shoots the pass out and lands. Perfect.

Oh, not a bad idea.

That's a really good. Yeah, that's a really good idea.

Yeah, it's a good idea. I don't know.

I know that you talked to me about refloring the basketball court because it, we've been here for a year now.

Waxing it.

Waxing it. And you wanted to do around thanksgiving. Was there, was there anything to do with that? Maybe putting, like, spring springs in it, you know, on the boards?

No, I just, I just liked in high school, like, when you came back from.

Yeah. I just realized the other day, I was like, you wanted to get the floor redone.

I also think maybe all this is the.

It's a trampoline.

There should be a witness around Hank when he's in the gym, just in case he tries to lower the rims.

Well, I mean, I've tried.

You can't.

Ah, we can't trust tree. Trust tree. Trust tree.

They asked trust me moved in, and we said, let's not give ourselves the option to lower it. Mean, like, we said that to Pete. And then I asked Pete, I was like, hey, can we lower the rooms? He's like, you told us not to, like, build this in.

I was like, fuck trustry. I also asked Pete because my whole plan was to lower the rims by, like, a quarter inch every single month until Hank thought he could dunk and then have him dunk and be like, haha, you fucking sucker. They're not regulation. So we both asked Pete for different reasons. So you were trying to cheat and I was trying to cheat you.

Well, I was trying to practice, Stephen Jackson.

Yeah. I was trying to fuck you over and have you dunk on a nine foot, like, nine inch rim and then, like, celebrate. And I'd like, haha. Norman Dale and just. That would have been awesome.

I've been funny.

Yeah, really funny. But, yeah, we couldn't do it worse. We're idiots for not letting. Why did we do that? Yeah, we're so stupid. God damn it.

Why not? He's like, you guys said not.

It would have been great to just run. Full course.

Yeah. Eight full.

I think that was. What?

Well, I think we were trying to avoid breaking the basket and injuries and everything. Once.

Once you do an eight foot rim, we never would.

Well, never. Yeah.

And it would destroy it.

Yeah. Okay. Great show, boys. Very fun. Numbers? 310.

Eleven.

517.

We didn't hear you, Pugdenhouse. 99.

Pug.

Pug showed up to the bar with a hickey the other night. Let's go, Pug.

It's not a hickey.

It's actually on a dog.

It's called hotspot. I was on a text, Jade. With all those guys. I was like, Pug showed up to the bar with a hickey and his fiance. What a power move. My barber cut my neck. 44. Oh, my gosh. 44, baby. That's 44. Love you guys.