Transcript of NBA Draft, Giannis To The Heat, Wyndham Clark, USMNT Team Captain Tim Ream + Mt Rushmore Of Hard To Spell Words

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Part of my take. Welcome to Part of My Take, presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday. June 24th, and Giannis is a Miami Heat, and the NBA Draft has occurred. And put on the Wizard hat, and nobody beats the Wiz. Nobody beats the Wiz.

Do we want to—

so we'll start with the drafts because you put on the Wizard hat. I feel like that's the, the sign that you want— you're ready to talk the Wiz.

It is, yeah. It's pretty subtle, but I'm glad you picked up on it. Uh, Hank and Max did request the Wiz hat. Yeah, for all—

and then they tried to mock you.

Then they tried to mock me.

No, no, no, you were wearing the Wiz hat.

You've been wearing the Wiz hat.

I've been wearing it today. Yeah, I mean, I'm getting in the spirit.

It's DC day.

It's DC.

It's literally—

yeah, we got a great pickup for the Caps.

Congrats on the wild card.

And then, uh, oh no, that's what we're talking about right now. Oh, we're talking about the Caps.

Congrats to you, Max, on the wild card.

Yeah, congrats, Max, on the wild card.

You want to say—

yeah, yeah, congrats. Congrats on a share of the wild card.

Yeah, well, no, as, um, as I previously reported on this podcast, Trae Young is going to re-sign with Washington Wizards. Which he did. 100% accurate on that one. And then I came into the office today and I was greeted with the peanut gallery and a lot of people that work here have Wiz Derangement Syndrome. And they just can't believe that anything good could ever happen.

Who is the peanut gallery?

What were they saying? It sounded like verbatim, Sean's Reply Guys. It was like, LMAO, generational overpay. Can't believe they fumbled this so bad.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

A lot of stuff like that.

But who was that? Who, who, who are the reply guys?

Henry Lockwood would not say that. Reply guy calling down for me from the, from the balcony like John Wilkes Booth when I was just trying to walk across the basketball court.

Well, you weren't wearing any Wizards gear on the biggest day of your franchise. And that's all I said at the time.

I wasn't. Yeah.

Well, the biggest day might have been yesterday when they signed Trae Young to 4 years, $212 million. Yes.

That is, that is the accurate amount. It is backloaded, so, uh, it will drop as the cap moves up, which will be fine.

Got it.

Um, it would be— I don't know, like, you can look at what Trae Young has done, and yeah, he's had his moments where maybe he's not the strongest defender in the world, but he's a, he's a very, very good player. As a matter of fact, if you look at most assists per game in the history of the NBA, uh, number 1, you would have Magic Johnson, number 2, you'd have John Stockton, Number 3, you would have Trae Young. And last year he had 26, 5 rebounds, 11 assists, 60% field goal.

And how many games?

That's beside the point. We don't need to get into the details of that.

Okay.

Those are just the main numbers.

What do you say to our good friend Windy? Is he part of the, the, the trade, the reply guys? Yeah, the mocking guys. He said, I think this is instantaneously one of the worst contracts in the league.

Yeah. When he's got— he's got whizdrinker syndrome as well.

I don't think that they could trade this contract unless they attach the number 1 pick to it.

Which is a reply, guys.

Oh, which, by the way, Brian Windhorst, I will acknowledge, knows way more about the NBA than I do. He's way more plugged in. That is stupid as fuck of him to say. That's just bullshit. That's just not true.

Because?

Because it's not true. Like, are you— the only way you could trade that contract if you had to was if you had the first overall pick. No, it's not true for a lot of reasons.

Didn't he say they could trade that contract with the first overall pick?

I don't think they could trade this contract contract unless they attached.

So that's not what he said.

Yeah, that's pretty much—

yes, he said it's so bad they couldn't trade it no matter what they had unless it was the number one pick attached to it, which is bullshit.

I don't think that's true. I think when—

I think Wendy, if you look back on it, Wendy doesn't think it's true either.

Yeah, that's probably an exaggeration at that point. One thing Wendy might have been forgetting is that the new lottery rules make a guy like Trae Young maybe a little bit more valuable on a contract like that, because a guy like Trae Young would keep you out of the relegation zone. Mm.

That's what you're going for.

It's just one—

stay out of the relegation.

It's just one element of it. I, I also think that, like, we haven't really had any players that we've been building around for the last, you know, 12 years. He's a good player. What else are you going to do with that $49 million this year? Who are you going to go get with that?

He was such a big, like, building block. Why wouldn't the Hawks have kept him?

That's a fair point.

I think things ran their course. Bad fit.

Bad fit. It's a good, good counterpoint. Bad fit.

But he wants— he's committed. He wants to be a wizard. And we let him test the open market and there were a couple other offers for him. And then he said, I'm just going to do those other offers, but with you guys. So he came back to us. Rumor on the street was it was the Nets and the Bulls that offered him that money. And so we said, you know what, we'll do it because we believe in you too. Listen, it might not work. I'll admit that. You never know. But, but, but for people to jump ahead and be like, oh, this is the worst contract in the NBA, oh, oh, I'm— it's disgusting.

Literally what our job is.

What?

We react to shit like that all the time.

To say like it's the worst contract in the NBA is a little ridiculous.

That's what we do.

Little— just, I can think of two off the top of my head. Joel Embiid, Paul George, Bradley Beal.

Bradley Beal with the Wizards.

That's the other thing is like, okay, that's another reply guy refrain. Oh, the bro just did the Bradley Beal over again.

That's wrong. Bradley Beal was 5 years.

It's wrong. It was 5 years. And also Bradley Beal had a no-trade clause. That is the crazy part of the Bradley Beal contract. People pay out way too much money for, um, you know, slightly above average players all the time. Bradley Beal's no-trade clause was the real issue.

And guys like Windy would say that that contract is so bad it basically is a no-trade clause.

No, there's a trade clause. You just have to add the number 1 pick.

Again, I think if you ask Wendy right now, I hate to tell Wendy, shut up and dribble. Okay. Sorry, Wendy, I love you, but that's, that's a bullshit take.

Okay.

And again, I'm just seeing a lot of people that have Wiz Derangement Syndrome. I'm just trying to have fun. I'm just trying to have fun with this team and be able to enjoy a product that is actually built to win. And I think that could win. And AJ D'Abanza is a massive, massive piece of that. I think they made the right pick tonight. That's the guy that I wanted. Wanted AJ, and I think he fits perfectly in that starting lineup, which should be a competitive lineup in the East next year.

Yeah, and that— the draft was tonight, so it pretty much went what everyone expected. AJ DuBanza going 1, uh, Darren Peterson going to Utah, even though he didn't go— like we said, it's just pretty much Ace Bailey all over again. The Jazz are going to pick whoever they want to pick. Uh, Cam Boozer to the Grizzlies, and then Caleb Wilson, who I'm very excited about, to the Bulls. And then a run on guards. And yeah, I think we all expected it. It was a— the draft— this is a loaded draft. I feel like you couldn't really screw up like the beginning of the draft, even going to, you know, Acuff to the 7 to the Kings. That's exciting for the Kings. The draft telecast was something. We had, uh, we had some interesting— the, the, the casting couch after every pick was, uh, quite something. And Lisa Salters asking— who did, who did she ask that to?

The—

was it, was it Dylan Swain who the Bulls took at 15? I can't remember. But she— oh, I think it was Nata meant— she asked, uh, when did you decide you wanted to be a first-round NBA pick? 2 years old? 3 years old? I don't know. Probably your whole life. Yeah.

What was—

I, I decided I wanted to be an NBA first-round pick like almost 40 years ago.

Yeah.

I recently discovered that I could not be a first-round NBA pick.

Yeah.

Like, when did you stop believing? Yeah, it's a better question.

It would have been funny if he was like, like, probably like after lunch today.

Mm-hmm.

I was like, yeah, you know what, I'm going to do this. But yeah, what— any, any big takeaways from the draft? I feel like it was pretty straightforward. I'm excited. I think there's a lot of teams that are excited.

I thought it was interesting that, that Carlos Boozer, Cam Boozer's dad, who works for the Jazz, was saying that like any team that passes on my son is going to regret it. And then the Jazz passed on his son.

Mm-hmm.

He doesn't call the shots.

He doesn't call all the shots.

He does not call the shots.

But still, that's a— that was an interesting comment from him. There was Dusty May. That was— he was watching every Michigan player get picked that he didn't get and getting very upset about it.

But he did get a Michigan player.

He got one Michigan player, but he got Mores Johnson Jr. He did not want any other Michigan player to go to any other team.

I did like too that the Thunder got Chet like a guard dog for Wemby with Mara. They're like, hey, we'll just get a taller guy that, that he can be the guy who, who Wemby bullies.

Or like a thick chet.

Yeah, yeah, there's— I mean, yeah, there's— I— Grizzlies— I mean, Bennett Sturtz is a stud at 16. Grizzlies getting Bennett Sturtz and Cam Boozer. I don't know how he's, uh, Thunder. Oh, he's Thunder now. Oh, Bennett— that's bullshit.

Yeah, they traded him.

Yeah, that's right, there's an immediate trade.

That's bullshit.

I don't like how the NBA does.

Dude, the Thunder just keep getting They got to fix that. Well, yeah, they got to— they got to get guys in the right hats.

Yeah.

They got to get them in the Wiz hat.

Everybody in the Wiz hat.

Yeah.

I'm a big Gunna guy now.

Is it wizard or witch?

It is a witch's hat, but it's a wizard.

Yeah.

I mean, what he's wearing is a witch's hat.

This is Wiz Derangement Syndrome 101.

Merely a question.

Yeah.

When you bought that hat.

Yeah, I didn't buy the hat.

There's been accusations, PFT, you've been lashing out today, and I feel like your tone might be a little bit— I don't want to say triggered.

No, it's a celebratory day. I'm very, very happy. It's just that— yeah, it's DC Day. I'm sad that Hank felt the need to try to put me down and poo-poo it because he's upset he didn't get Giannis.

I—

that's not true. But I saw PFT from the balcony and I just said, hey, PFT, no Wizards gear? It's the biggest day of your career. Then you started lashing out, calling me a shams reply guy to just a question about your outfit. Then you walked over to the corner.

No, there was other stuff that you said.

Found a Wizards sweatshirt and tweeted a picture being like, let's go Wiz.

Well, no, I put the sweatshirt on because I was making a Whistler video.

Mm-hmm.

Of course.

Yeah. I don't understand the— listen, let people enjoy things, Hank. Let me be excited about my basketball team for the first time in a video.

I am.

I'm excited. You're excited. I'm excited for the Wiz.

So is he lashing out to you? Yeah, I was sitting at my desk. Shane read a tweet and had a video playing. I just said, who has the worst contract in the history of the NBA? Said he was talking about Trae Young, and then he lashed out.

I mean, it's just, it's a little early to say it's the worst contract in the history of the NBA, but they're not the ones saying that, right?

Yeah, Wendy's the one.

They're just reporting what other people are.

Yeah, they're just playing videos, and I was disagreeing with the takes.

And again, we are like, we make takes way more hot than that. But when I expect more from Wendy, when he knows better, maybe, maybe that's, that should make you concerned because he doesn't do hot takes and he did do that.

I think he did in the moment. He did in the moment. That's okay. We all have takes that we want to take back. The bottom line is I'm excited and, you know, they hate us because they ain't us. I guess that's what I'm having to deal with right now is I'm seeing a lot of jealousy. I don't know how to respond to that. Because I've never had people be jealous about how great my team is. So now that I'm dealing with that, yeah, I got a little— maybe I did get a little bit triggered at Hank, but that's okay. To be fair, it's easy to get triggered with Hank.

Yeah, that's on you. It's kind of like Windham Clark. It's like no one hates Windham Clark. It's just because he's on top and they keep talking about him.

That—

it's not derangement syndrome. It's like people are just sick probably of hearing about the Wizards as much as we have.

Yeah, because they're so good. They're gonna be so good. Also, I'm a big Brockton, Massachusetts.

They're about to be so good.

Brockton rocks.

I think the Wizards are going to be good. I think you're in trouble, Hank, on your bet.

Yeah, no, the, the, they got a good young core.

Yeah.

And, and the bit, the, the big news of the day was Giannis, uh, was last, it was Monday, late Monday night, Giannis gets traded from the Bucks to the Heat. I, well, we'll get to Hank's part, but I feel like the Bucks screwed this up just because they they waited a year too long.

Yeah, they can.

And they got a bunch of guys and picks. I mean, they got Tyler Herro. Uh, they didn't— Jimmy Haslam has said basically they didn't want to take Jaylen Brown because they don't want to be in the middle, which I get that. But Giannis should have gotten more. The return should have been bigger for Giannis. And then on the other side, the Heat— Giannis and Bam are really good. They got to figure out how to fill out the rest of the roster. Maybe that's not this year thing. Maybe that's a next year thing because Giannis will sign an extension in Miami. Um, and I think it's like one of those things where, especially if you're Pat Riley, who— this is his MO— is like, go get the stars and figure out the rest later. Yeah, you now have the two stars and you can figure out the rest later. They're going to be awesome defensively. But it is funny looking at their team right now being like, okay, so who else is playing basketball?

Yeah, yeah. And, uh, Kevin O'Connor had an interesting point about this. He said that Jimmy Haslam, he was the driving force in going with the Heat deal instead of with the Celtics deal. And he said it's because he didn't want to risk Jaylen Brown wanting out of Milwaukee in a year because he just got done dealing with Giannis and the Miles Garrett trade situation.

Mm.

So he wanted certainty, and the Miami guys gave more certainty than if it had been Jaylen Brown, who would've just had to put him through that same thing again.

Yeah. Who's in a worse spot right now? Um, Giannis's brother who got left behind. So Thanasis got left behind. Or the other deal that was not remarkable whatsoever was the three-way deal where the, the Timberwolves traded Julius Randle to the Nets. The Bulls got Nick Claxton, which I was excited about because that was a quintessential situation where the Bulls would have been on the other side of that, where it's like trading picks and guys to get nothing. Yeah, Bulls just got Nick Claxton. It's pre-free agency is what they're calling it.

Yeah.

Um, but So is it Thanasis or is it Julius Randle having to move back to New York City to play for the Nets the year after the Knicks win the title?

Do you think it's going to be Julius? Do you think he's going to actually play for the Nets?

I don't know.

It's—

that was one of those trades where it's like, I don't know what's going to happen, like what their intentions are of the Nets of getting, getting Julius Randle. Uh, Thanasis though, probably if they don't figure out a way for him to get to Miami, uh, he's definitely going to feel way more left, way left out.

Yeah, way left out.

I think they will.

Yeah. So, Hank, you immediately— what was your tweet after Giannis got traded? Thank God.

Or no, no, no. I was just, you know, going through the state of emotions.

I just asked the question, what was the tweet that you tweeted?

I tweeted before. What was your tweet? Before anything happened, something along the lines of like, the more I think about it, I don't want Jalen gone. I hope it's the Heat. And then when it happened, I said, bang.

Bang.

But do you realize that this is pro— Jalen Brown probably is going to be traded still?

This is what I've come to, and this, this might be delusional. This is just the, the world that I have chosen to live in today. Because obviously everyone's like, oh, now Jalen's definitely going to be gone now that he saw that he was getting dangled as a, as a trade piece.

Yeah.

The, the narrative that I have chosen in my head, which I don't think is too far from the truth in my head, uh, wait, so it's not the truth? This could definitely be true.

It's what you're— it's the narrative in your head, but it's— not too far, it's not too far-fetched in your head.

Yeah, like this could definitely be the case.

You said it's the narrative that you've chosen because it's the one that makes you feel the best, but it's also probably true.

Yes.

Okay, got it.

Uh, Brad Stevens, consummate professional Celtics professional organization. Jalen Brown, professional. And the rumors that came out were like Jalen Brown probably asked to get traded, and Brad Stevens said, you know, you've been great for our organization, we've done right by you, you've done right by us, we are in your best interest going to try and do that for you because of, you know, the contributions you made to this team. So Jaylen Brown was not surprised to see that he was offered in the trade. And I think Brad Stevens, there's a chance he does get traded. But I think if the trade is not best for the Celtics organization, Jaylen Brown will come back and there will not be any, like, butthurt feelings.

You don't think that Jaylen Brown is going to be upset that he was dangled?

For more than dangled.

But I think Jaylen Brown said, I want to be traded.

Okay.

Like, I like—

but that still stands. Yeah, he won't.

Correct.

But I think, again, they're professionals. Like, if he knows Brad Stevens is trying to do right by him, if it doesn't happen, he's not going to come back and play like, oh, this is bullshit. I'm back on this team. It's going to be like, yeah, didn't work out now, but, you know, I'm back. I'm back with this team. Let's— like, he still loves Jason Tatum. He still loves City, Boston Celtics. Like, if he's back playing for the Celtics, which I hope he is, there's not gonna be any, like, hard feelings.

You don't think he's gonna go live on Twitch and, and be like, yeah, I wanted out, they didn't trade me, I thought I was getting traded?

So, no. Okay, so what the— what, what the alternate reality is, the Celtics realize that they have to move Jaylen Brown because they have limitations on their roster and they need to, to build around just Jayson Tatum. Wendy said the Celtics took a hard look in the mirror and decided we weren't going to beat the Knicks.

Yeah, that's what I mean. That's Wendy's terrible takes.

Oh, okay. Like, Wendy's probably the most— the guy I trust the most.

Yeah, he's level-headed. Uh, so, so if the Celtics decided to— this is what the other reality is. The Celtics are like, hey, we gotta trade Jaylen Brown. They then tried to go all in to get Giannis for Jaylen Brown.

Jaylen Brown, not all in. No, Hugo.

All right, when he went on Twitch saying it was his favorite year, all this stuff, Jalen Brown doesn't seem like a guy who's probably like super pumped about being openly shopped around. And but if he asked for it, why would he not be? We're talking about different reality. This is the other reality of the— he could just be— Brad Stevens is like, we're gonna trade him, and try as hard as they can to trade him. And now he's not traded, and you have to deal with being like, hey man, all that stuff we were trying to do, that was just a joke. So you good?

I—

that seems far-fetched.

So the less far-fetched is Jaylen Brown saying, 'I want to be traded,' and then when he isn't traded saying, 'Sike, I don't want to be traded anymore.' He knows it's a business.

He wants to be traded, but if it doesn't happen, like, you got to come back in and get back to work.

So, but what about— okay, so I guess in one circumstance we're talking about if he's going to be upset about not getting traded or if he's going to be upset about being dangled in trade. But I think the real issue is, is he going to just kind of wave away all the reasons why he wanted to be traded in the first place? Do all those go away?

Right. That's what I'm saying.

I think that's what's just going to wipe it once the season starts. Yeah.

Like, that's—

this is offseason. Once the season starts, he'll be back ready to go.

Jalen Brown's basically going to go into Brad Stevens' office and be like, hey, I said some things, you said some things, let's just move on.

Yeah. Okay, let's, let's, let's push it off.

Yeah. And you think that's Yes. How he's wired.

Yes. Is he going to be content?

He's a competitor. Once that— once the games are played, he's going to be.

But couldn't you say he's a competitor? He wants his own team because he basically admitted to that when he said that in the Twitch livestream.

Yes. But again, he knows he's got a huge contract. Like, it's not easy. He's not necessarily the easiest person to trade for. Like, they're going to need a lot.

Contracts in the NBA.

They're going to need a lot back.

First overall pick, probably. Do you think he's going to be happy going into the season knowing he's a third option behind Hugo Gonzalez and Baylor Shireman?

I don't—

that's just not true.

Well, the Celtics, those were the two people— that's what kept them from trading for Giannis is they said you can have anyone.

I mean, look at the— it's like the Celtics are not a team that just like— they're not like Brad, uh, Pat Riley's flashy. He doesn't care. He's old. He's just trying to, you know, make a splash, completely like blow up their future. Brad Stevens is smart. He's not gonna blow up their future just to get Giannis.

Nick, or, uh, sorry, Nick, Nick's, uh, memes. What do you think about all these moves given that you are on the top of the throne? Uh, didn't really move, move the needle at all. I think if Giannis would have went to Boston, it would have— it would have been scarier.

Yeah, because right now the Knicks are still designed to beat the current Celtics roster. Uh, he traded away all their guys. So really nothing.

Yeah, I feel good.

The Heat have to fill out a roster. We don't know what that team's going to look like at all because they've got a great— they've got a great front court. And then outside of that, I don't know who's going to shoot the ball for him.

Andrew Wiggins.

Yeah.

No, I mean, he was— he was good shooting the 3 this year. But yeah, they're good. They're going to be a defense-first team. And I, I do think they'll be able— like, this is part of the Pat Riley, get the stars and then everyone else, everything else will fall in place.

So it—

and he has the track record of that working. Um, I, I think the Heat won't be like a championship type team this year, but I mean, in— if Giannis is healthy and they have a few years of him and Bam, they'll be in the mix. And then the Bucks, yeah, again, I, I feel bad for Bucks fans, the fact that you, you basically were tortured for the last year and a half, maybe even more, with all this stuff. Then you finally get traded and the centerpiece is Tyler Herro.

Yeah, they probably— they definitely should have done this a while ago. To get you guys something back in return that you can be sure to build around, be confident building around.

Right. It's a— I mean, you would have had 2 years of Giannis if you traded him last year. So that part probably sucks for the Bucks. So, Hank, you, you think everything's going to be fine? Has there been any, any other, like, potential trades? Stephen A. was saying the Jazz.

There's, there's been reports that teams are inquiring, obviously, now that they know, you know, Jalen Brown's on the table. So people are going to make calls.

He's got to— he's got to take that back.

It could definitely— I mean, it's definitely Like 35% chance it gets traded in the next 2 weeks.

And what about, what about percentage traded in the next 6 months?

Lower.

Oh, okay.

Lower in the next 6 months than in the next couple of weeks.

This is the, this is, we're in the hot zone.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That makes sense. Free agency starts next week. So we're in the hot zone.

What would it take to get Hugo from you? Because the fact that you won't throw Hugo in makes me want him more.

A lot. Probably first overall.

First overall for Hugo.

Yeah. Oh, sorry for Hugo. Straight up. You got a deal.

Hmm.

Max, congratulations. LeBaron McDonald's All-American.

McDonald's All-American. If Rico Bosco has anything to say about it, I've been hearing this guy's name a long time. Yeah, a lot for a long time.

I'm not happy about this, Max, because I've been documented as being a LeBaron Phylon appreciator and respecter for, uh, I think like a year and a half.

This guy's awesome.

He's really, really good.

Yeah, LeBaron.

I think he's going to be a very, very good NBA player. You got a stud.

Sixer.

Yeah, Sixer.

Sixer.

Any other draft thoughts? Anyone? I mean, the Bucks did get, uh, Nate Emmentt tonight, uh, from, from that trade, and they also got Braden Burrus, who I like. Yeah, I mean, I, like I said, the, the, the draft, it felt like it went pretty much how we expected it to go. And there's just a lot of good dudes that it's going to be interesting to see how this all shakes out.

I do think that there's a, there's a chance that Darren Peterson might end up being the best player from this draft. I, I believe that it's, uh, it was very much a crapshoot and you don't know exactly what you're getting based on the one year at Kansas. And there's a huge downside potential. If you take him first overall. So I have no problem. I like the Bants. I think he's gonna be a great player. But I would not be surprised if Darren Peters is like an absolute fucking legend in a few years. And you look back and you're like, how did that happen?

That would hurt.

It would hurt. It would definitely hurt. But, you know, man of the arena.

Yeah, that's what you— that is part of the privilege of having the number one overall pick.

Yeah.

Is that you have to make that pick and you have to just live with it.

Yeah.

Also, that was why the Bulls had the like whatever happened, there was the 4 guys and I was like, I want Caleb Wilson, but if one of the other guys ends up there, great.

I actually think he's going to be a really good—

I'm so excited for him.

Zach, tell me about the rainbow face because AJ Dubansky kept— he keeps doing the rainbow face waving his wrist in front of the camera.

So he's there. He's referring to a— it's an Audemars Piguet, but it's a factory frosted with a rainbow bezel, all factory.

On a watch? I'm talking about a watch.

It's a watch. Yes, sir.

Okay, okay.

And it was in a Gunna song.

Uh, Gunna does have one. Gunna has one. XQC has one. I believe he has one as well.

How much do these run?

The factory frosted ones are like, like $500.

Oh yeah, okay.

$500 bucks?

Uh, $500,000.

Oh, what about the fake ones?

You can get like a really good AAA rep for like probably $1,000.

All right, Zach, can you try to find me a, uh, like the best looking fake rainbow face?

I can, yes sir.

Okay, thank you. Let me know what that runs me.

Um, okay, anything else? By the way, the Bulls, uh, have an acronym, SLAP. That's just what we're doing. Size.

Yeah.

Length. Athleticism. Physicality.

Drafting big size, length, athletic—

Okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Just— yeah, long guy slap.

Just the biggest guys you can find.

I like—

I'm in on that.

I like that.

Height matters.

Is there any rumor about Ja Morant being traded? Is he on the move?

Oh, I don't know. Feels like he always might be.

I was talking to T-Bob the other day.

I— but he wants him on the Pelicans.

He just keeps tossing out T-Bob. He keeps tossing out New Orleans scenarios to me.

Yeah, yeah. I don't think that's—

It was— I thought it was a great draft. I think great draft.

I think great draft all around, guys.

The Bulls, the Wizards, and the Sixers all got better today.

Like what the Grizzlies did. Yeah, like what the Grizzlies did a lot. Like what— I mean, the Thunder are just like cheating at this point with the fact that they have— also, like I said, Darius Acuff is maybe my favorite player in the draft in terms of just watchability. The Kings are going to be fun. Darius Acuff, like, that's a guy— that's, that's what this draft has more than anything, is like there's a lot of fan bases that are walking away from tonight being like, I'm excited to watch my basketball team next year because there's something promising that could be something bigger that I get to tune into and get excited for.

Yep.

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Ends June 28th. Terms at dkng.co/audio. Uh, PFT, I have a question for you. World Cup.

Yep.

Is Uzbekistan a real country?

Uzbekistan is a moderately real country.

Okay, that seemed like preseason football that we watched today.

I don't know who played Uzbekistan.

And think they scored a lot of goals. But I would say anyone who scored a goal in that, you should actually feel bad for yourself for bullying.

Yeah. I mean, there were some accusations and some people actually pointing out that players on Uzbekistan might literally be plumbers. Mm.

Okay.

Like literally part-time plumbers. And yeah, if you can imagine the amount of work that would go into Uzbekistani toilets, I imagine that would be more than a part-time job. Yeah, pretty much a full-time job.

So who do they play?

They played against— it was some team that spoke Brazilian.

Two teams that both made it to the largest stage in sports today, Portugal and Uzbekistan, played together in the World Cup.

Okay. And how did Ronaldo do?

Ronaldo did— I mean, he played pretty well. He had two goals for country today.

Oh, two goals.

Yeah, two goals for country.

He's actually— he's tied for Messi's worst game in the World Cup.

Zach, you mean a brace?

Or brace? That's correct.

But he's tied for Messi's worst game.

Oh yeah, and these are—

Messi scored 2 goals again.

I believe that's correct. In these early stages of the World Cup, currently Messi's up a couple goals. Uh, a lot of—

actually, no, it's a few. A couple is 2.

Couple, 2.

Few is 3.

You are correct. So a few goals. He's up a light few. Yeah, you know, anything can happen. Portugal, Colombia coming up next. Uh, looking forward to it. You know, Ronaldo, really selfless play today.

Gets—

I mean, 5th minute, go ahead, puts one in, feeling good.

Very soft.

Does it again. He said, look, oh, we got a free kick right outside the box. Let's spread it around. Let's let the boys eat a little bit.

Let somebody else have it.

I think that was a beautiful thing.

Okay, so I will give him this. That free kick from outside the box, that was a cool play because everybody in the stadium thought Ronaldo was about to kick it. And then probably under threat of being fired or worse, he had to let his teammate kick it. And then he did a good job, a very convincing job acting, pretending to be happy that his teammates scored a goal.

Small is pride.

I got a question.

Is, is that what that thing in his throat was?

That's an Adam's apple. And he's got like a 10 out of 10.

I think, I think he might be testosterone. No, I, I think a little too much. Maybe he might have had some work done on the Adam's apple. I think he might have shaved it. No, like an Adam's apple implant.

Got it.

Yeah.

Would you say that when, when an athlete says something like, I'm back. Like, hey guys, I'm back. Do you think that's something that should be uttered after beating Uzbekistan?

Uh, it was a double I'm back. So it was I'm back, I'm back, right?

But the question, the question is, it stays the same. I'm back for Uzbekistan group stage.

I mean, as a 41-year-old, to score in his 6th World Cup. I mean, he's back, he'll always be back.

No, you can't always—

today he should double back.

Are they only playing Uzbekistan for the rest of the tournament?

No, it'll be Colombia next.

If they are playing Uzbekistan another world class, then he, he might be back.

If they just play Uzbekistan every week, I mean, the guys from Uzbekistan, great hustle out there.

Maybe he was just— yeah, maybe he was telling his teammates like when he was going back on defense.

Oh, okay. No, that doesn't happen.

He doesn't do that.

He was making all the runs though today.

He was?

Well, a lot of the runs today.

On offense?

Most of the runs on offense today he made. There was like one where he probably could have got there and didn't get there.

Do you do the celebration? Do you do the— Siu! Yeah, the siu.

I don't have the hand-eye coordination, but I do do it sometimes.

What do you know? What does siu mean?

I don't have direct translation, but it's fun to say.

I think it means yes. I think it's celebration.

In Portugal.

In Brazilian.

Or Brazilian, my bad. You're right.

He scores a goal and then he just goes, yes.

I'm happy for you, Zach, because it's like, it's, uh, it's what was, what was Meadow's, uh, Richie Aprile? No, no, uh, Jackie Aprile. Jackie Aprile and Tony Soprano in, in the bathroom when, when Tony says, put your hands up, just put your hands up and fight me like a man. I needed that out of Ronaldo. I needed a little fight. He had to put his hands up. So I'm happy he put his hands up today and there's at least a little fight out of him.

I think against Uzbekistan today, the entire world knew he'd do nothing less.

Right.

Right. Show up for country.

Could have gotten a hat trick.

Selfless play today.

Yeah. And then we had— I mean, the Golden Boot is insane because Messi scored 2 more goals. Mbappé scored 2 more goals. Haaland scored 2 more goals.

Brace.

It's pretty fucking nuts. Yeah, an awesome world.

Haaland could have had 4 goals last night. Yeah, he was all over the place.

That was actually a great— his last goal where he like was upset about how the play was going.

Yeah.

And was like, wait a second, it's still going on. Let me score this goal. That was electric. Norway's fans are awesome.

I had no idea that Norway's fans were going to be this cool. Yeah, they're incredible.

And then today, the Ghana witch doctor worked because Harry Kane bottled it. Is that a correct term?

It was a bottling.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah. And England ties Ghana 0-0.

0. So, so a witch doctor, a Ghanaian witch doctor, said that she put a curse on Harry Kane and he missed an absolute easy layup. And I think it worked. I think, I think the witch doctor— I think we should probably get the witch doctor on the show.

Yeah. So the witch doctor was about— well, Harry Kane was about 7, 8 yards out. And traditionally Harry needs to be inside the 6. Yeah. If he wants to score. And then he just absolutely baju'd it over the top.

He smashed it.

And as they say in England, sent it into rosette.

Yeah.

And Malasek was right. The witch doctor, I believe it's a man. Oh, from Ghana. And what's crazy is in the African federations, they have rules against witch doctors.

That's fair.

Like their actual soccer organizations say, like, it is against the rules of soccer to have a witch doctor put a curse on an opponent for any reason.

Right.

So he had previously cursed Ronaldo, which, which worked. Then he cursed Harry Kane today, which also worked. We need not only to get him on the show, I would like to hire this witch doctor as the tournament progresses for any teams that the United States happens to be playing.

I think we need to figure out how to get this witch doctor.

It's like it's the modern day Lil B.

Can I see a picture of the witch doctor?

Base God right here. They're just showing the There he is. Oh, and he also— he does the thing like the, uh, like the LeBron chalk celebration before the games.

That's crazy. I, I literally just got shown for being a reverse misogynist. The doctor was a man.

But the witch— the witch was not a woman.

Yeah, but the doctor was a man.

Doctor was a man.

Yeah, I thought— I assumed the doctor was a woman.

Yep.

What?

Good for you.

How stupid of me.

Good for you.

Yeah, that was— yeah, very progressive.

Okay.

Anything else from the World Cup that we got? It's been awesome.

It's been awesome. I really enjoyed talking to Tim Ream today. I had kind of a realization of what Poach is doing to this team and how he's being so effective. Poach is like Tibbs, a little bit more hair. Mm-hmm. But the knock against Poach in the past—

Tibbs has more hair.

Yeah, I think so. I haven't seen a recent picture. Okay. But the knock against him has been for his club teams that he, he runs them too hard, grinds them, works them too hard over the course of a season. They get burnt out by the end of the year. This is the perfect scenario for a guy. Yeah, you can burn them out for soccer tips. You've got just a handful of games. Get fired up, get amped up, leave it all out on the field and then, and then go on to whatever your next job is afterwards. Yeah, this is— I'm very optimistic about about what the team can do. And like you saw what happened with England today. England's one of the favorites in the tournament. Any team can tie any team in this tournament.

Yeah, ties are hot.

Ties are hot right now.

Yeah, I agree. It's been, it's been fun to watch. All right. We're going to do Mount Rushmore of hard to spell words. And then we have Hatsi Koultharoun, Wyndham Clark, Tim Ream, and Guys on Chicks. What a show. Okay. Mount Rushmore is brought to you by our friends at Microsoft. This segment is sponsored by Microsoft 365 Copilot. What if you could add an AI assistant to your work without leaving your workflow? Built into Microsoft Word, Excel, and Outlook, Copilot works where you work, helping you do more in the apps you already use. In Word, Copilot helps turn scattered notes into a first draft. In Excel, it generates insights from your data. And in Outlook, it cuts through the noise to get you up to speed faster. The apps you know go further with Copilot. Learn more at m 365copilot.com/work. Okay, boys, it is Mount Rushmore of— what's the exact phrasing?

Mount Rushmore of words that are hard to spell.

Words that are hard to spell. Now, Zach and Hank are a team. How would you guys say you are as spellers?

We'll save it for the honorable mentions, I think. But we had— we had the brainstorms all time.

Yeah.

I'm excited to hear the honorable mentions.

A stacked team for this draft.

Stacked team.

No, you guys, I'll say it's a tough thing to come up with as someone who's bad at spelling because usually when you're misspelling the words, you think you got them, you think you got them right.

Yeah, I was just, I was, I was like trying to think of words and typing them out. And if I could spell it correctly, I wouldn't put it on my list.

We did that too.

I did. Yeah.

But there's a lot of, there's a lot of words that They just trip you up. They just trip you up. Okay. Who's first? Is it—

we last? Yeah, we were first last time.

We were second. So that would probably mean we're first or no.

Yeah. And you just moved down.

Yeah. So that would mean you're second. We're third. No, he's second.

He's first.

I'm— I was last, last time.

So you're second.

Yeah.

Got it.

PFTs first. He goes from third to first. So you move down the second.

Yeah.

And then we go to third on Friday.

I love it.

Okay.

Yeah. All right. So we're all in agreement.

Yep. Love my guys.

All right. Love it.

And then every 3 days you guys got it. Yeah. And how are we vibes-wise going to this Mount Rushmore? We left— we left the fans on a cliffhanger last Mount Rushmore. Great.

I think everybody's got a great attitude today. Hank came into this room just bright-eyed, bushy-tailed. It's great to see him like this.

He's in a bad attitude all day, but I'm in a great mood.

I'm—

you've been lashing out left and right.

I'm in a great place today. This is an all-time turnaround day for me.

Have you been lashing out today?

No, I've been engaging in dialogue.

Just good names, Max.

Good, good old-fashioned dialogue.

Twice when I've seen it. I don't know if you can say lashed out when, when, when you started it.

I didn't start one of them. I definitely started the other one when I was telling everybody Max is making bread.

Yeah.

Why were you saying—

I don't know why memes kept telling everyone was making bread.

People just like, hey, where's, where's Max? I'm like, I don't fucking know. He's probably making bread.

Yeah.

Except, except you left out the I don't fucking know part. He's making bread in the kitchen. And so then I went to the kitchen to look for Max and he wasn't there, but he was in the kitchen making it or eating Italian food.

Okay.

So that's basically making bread.

Yeah.

Same thing.

Yeah.

All right, PFT, you're up first.

Okay, I'm going to go with one, one restaurant.

Oh, restaurant.

We had it on there.

Number one.

I think it's the most common one and it's the most commonly typed one. And I would say that like I get it correct about 50— exactly 50% of the time. And I've been typing restaurant for about 36, 34 years and trying to spell it. Still can't do it right every time.

I think it's an excellent pick. Yeah, I think that's my— that's my one, one as well. What I still like, I still can't, can't spell it.

Yeah, big time. What do we want to do, boys? You want to go 1 or 2?

I like 2.

You like 2? I like 1. Memes, you be the, you be the tiebreaker. I just wanted us to take pepperoni again. Yeah, pepperoni would be a hard word to spell. This is a tough decision.

It's up to you. You have to make the decision. I think you can make the decision.

Make the decision.

Make it.

I think— okay, I'll go one.

One.

All right, I agree because one, you, you, you're not in practice. You two, you spell weekly. February is our first pick. February, we just— you just don't spell it correctly.

You forget the R. Always forget the R.

Always forget the R.

Okay.

All right. Oh, you guys don't like it?

Good.

No, no, that's fine. He's nodding his head. I think it's good in a mocking way.

I'm not, I'm not nodding my head in a mocking way at all.

Okay.

I was waiting for Hank to start to pick it apart.

Not—

that's—

those days are gone.

Okay.

Kumbaya. Great pick.

Kumbaya.

Kumbaya.

Uh, that actually not a bad—

thinking about that.

Uh, if you pick Kumbaya right now, that would be awesome. Is that a real word?

Yeah, yeah, it's a song. It's a banger.

That's not—

doesn't mean it's a word.

We're gonna go with pseudonym.

Okay.

All right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was a hard word.

That works.

Okay, you're right.

And then Zach, kumbaya.

I feel a lot better about February now.

Yeah.

How do you spell it?

Oh no, I just didn't know that's the direction that we were going.

Yeah, I just never used that one.

No, I think it's P-S-E-U-D-O-N-Y-M.

M-N. Well, originally it was—

I didn't say anything about your— I didn't say anything about— I said I just feel better about February. That has nothing to do with what you said.

All right, Zach, we would also like take xylophone.

Okay, all right.

Okay, okay. Uh, so number 2, let's go to Yeah. You want to go to—

Yeah.

All right.

We'll just stick with the calendar.

Have xylophone number 2.

No, we didn't. We'll stick with the calendar. We'll go Wednesday. We screw up Wednesday all the time. Wednesday. Just screw that up. Just commonly. Just fuck it up.

Okay. Good pick. Good pick. For my second, I'm going to say separate on the list.

I like your list, right?

All right.

Cool down a little. All right.

What?

We're kumbaya over here. Yeah. It was a good pick. It was on our list. Good pick.

And next one, I'm gonna say, uh, definitely.

Okay, good pick.

That's a good pick too.

Yeah. Uh, Max and Memes, do you guys want to go, um, I think 12 is, is funny, and we did spell it wrong when we were talking about it.

Yeah, yeah, you want me to, you want me to say 12? I'll say yeah.

I mean, I think we collectively say 12. We did.

I think we—

what, based on the team after us when they pick, I think we could get it on turn. Oh yeah, you're right. Okay, good point. That's good.

What do you mean by that, Memes?

They're going SAT words. Yeah, yeah. Okay, uh, I— 4 is impossible, but I don't— whatever you guys want to do.

I'm good with 4.

You like 4?

Yeah.

I tried to spell it and I spelled it wrong.

Yeah, go for it.

Okay, rhythm. Yeah, I've never— I never get the H. That just doesn't exist in my brain.

Yep, that's a really tough one.

And I even when I see it spelled out, I'm like, that's wrong.

And then you want to float the Y sometimes.

Yeah.

Why come before or after? Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You can double Y, double Y. Yeah. Rhythm fucks me up every time.

Okay.

Onomatopoeia. No.

Conscious.

That's okay. On our list.

I had it on our list. There we go.

Good pick.

And then, Zach, pick any word, Zach. Any word you want.

We'd also like to take quesadilla.

Okay.

Yeah.

I— the reason why we didn't have quesadilla on our list is Memes said quesadilla and then I spelled it. I nailed it the first try. So, all right. The last one is just a complete own of Max and myself. Max, would you like to say it? Because we did. We did the testing system for this and we got it wrong. Which says a lot about us. But go ahead, Max.

We're going to go with exercise.

Exercise. That's a good pick.

Exercise. There should be a Z in there.

No, no. See, that was— that's where we got—

I agree.

There should be a Z in exercise.

So that's where we got screwed up because I tried to spell it out and I spelled it E-X-C-E-R-C-I-S-E. I thought there was a C next to the X. And Max just kept on looking at saying, where's the Z? The Z should be in there. I was like, no, no, that's not how you spell salad.

Smell size. There's a Z in there. Exercise.

Exercise.

There's—

it's— it sounds like E-X-C. You're like ex—

exering your size.

Yeah, but okay.

Yeah, but don't you—

size. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You think of extra— you think the size and exercise like, like how big you are.

I'm working on my size.

Yeah, yeah.

You're getting— whether you're trying to get smaller or bigger, you're exercising. Lowering your size or maybe gaining your size.

Yeah.

I've never thought of that. But yeah, that's— you make a great point.

Yeah, I commonly misspell it with— I throw in the C after the X. Yeah, because it sounds like that.

Yeah, exercise.

It should be Z, but there also should be a C after the X. Exercise.

Yeah, that's not—

it's not exercise.

Exer— yeah, X-E sounds like exer or exer.

Yeah, yeah.

It's like, what the fuck? So double misspell.

So on the size, you go C-I-Z-E.

Exercise. Yeah.

Everyone's agreeing with this with a Z. Well, I don't think we've spelled it right once.

It's a good point. Outstanding point.

Okay.

Kumbaya.

All right.

Kumbaya.

And this last pick.

Yeah.

I'm going to go with the word misspell.

Okay.

Misspell is very hard to spell.

M-I-S-S-P-E-L-L.

It has two S's.

M-I-S-S-P-E-L-L. Yeah.

Two S's.

All right, good. Mount Rushmore, kumbaya! Look at this.

Yeah, I love Mount Rushmore. I thought— I'll, I'll be honest, me and Zach did a— I was like, you know, let's do 1-1 on 3, what you think your 1-1 is. He said Wednesday. I thought that was ridiculous, but you guys had it on your list, so, so I apologize, Zach.

Well, our—

I was like, we can save that for the 4th round.

No one's taking Our plan is we were, we were basically picking words that we use, like, yeah, in a semi-common fashion, and then we'll trip up. Like, not like there's words, obviously there's words. If you do the spelling bee, I don't think I get anything that the Indian kids get, but I don't like— they're just up there ripping words. It's like, I've never even heard of this word.

Originally with, with pseudonym, I was saying pseudonym, but I thought that was going to get rejected because it's too Like PFT Commenter is a pseudonym.

Pseudonym.

It is pseudonym.

Yeah. So that was a word that gets used like a decent amount.

That was, that was one that was like, yeah, that's an alternate name.

That nom de guerre.

Yeah.

All right. What do we got for soundproof booth back here?

And we can still hear Mincy screaming.

Oh, he's the worst. Go yell at him. Go yell at him. Tell him to shut it down. Say it's the middle of the fucking day. People are working. Go. Yeah, that's how you have a full, full— say, I sent you.

All right.

Honorable mentions. Necessary.

Yeah, necessary is a great one.

Necessary fucks me up. Oh, this is good. I mean, it's crazy. It's 3:00 in the afternoon.

I would say— he's still yelling.

Did you pick Conscious? No, you'd—

Hank did.

Yeah, that's a good pick.

Shane told us rotisserie.

That was a good one.

Yep. Whoa, wait.

He just said it. We didn't put it on. We didn't use it.

Yeah.

On our list at number 21, there's protein. Yeah, I believe that's the word because it's spelled P-R-O-T-E-N-E.

Mm-hmm.

Is that protein?

Yeah.

Yeah. Protein.

Zach, why don't you start off by giving us all your honorable mentions?

Protein. Protein's hard. Exhausted is hard.

Several of the protein is P-R-O-T-E-I-N. Yeah.

Wait, several of the months?

Yeah.

December.

Okay.

I don't know. That's in there. That was not pretty. I know that's not the case anymore.

That one's pretty.

We had a tough time. We had to revert to spell like Texas speech in the brainstorm. So it was tough.

Okay.

Prosciutto. Connoisseur.

Yeah.

Tsunami.

Connoisseur is a good one.

On me.

Wrinkle. That was easy.

How do you usually do wrinkles?

Wrinkles pretty easy.

Really strong.

I, in this process, EL, I think because Zach is younger and I'm guessing technology's been around, I don't know that he's ever spelled.

Yeah, because he's got the squiggly line.

There's no need to spell. You just do auto.

You talked about protein.

Protein, protein.

Phonetics, which is kind of how me and Zach live our life, is phonetically.

What about license? I always think there's an extra S in there.

Lesson's a good one.

Yeah.

Very.

Was it very, very?

Yeah.

Like V-A-R-Y. This is very hard.

I call it I-E a lot.

Wait, does the very, very or very, very? V-A-R-Y.

It's you either get hit with the I-E, the V-E-R-I-E, or you get hit with the very, V-A-R-I-Y. No, no, no.

The only way that I watch.

Yes, so very.

Are you just saying like that this This dinner was very good.

No, he's saying IY is crazy.

No, Zach.

Are you saying the variety or very?

Like, he's saying like this dinner was very good. He struggles with the word before good.

Knowing when to use the very as in this, like this meal was very good or things can vary.

Right.

That makes sense.

You just spell those like very.

But V-E-R-I-E for varies.

That actually doesn't make sense. I don't think I've ever done very first.

Let's get—

come on.

You got both verys down.

See, I think I do.

Like the there, there, there.

Yeah, that one. That one's tough.

I don't think very— no, no, no, guys wouldn't put very, very— it's not like— no, they're not. No, they're two totally different words.

I don't think that there's any word in the English language that ends in I-Y though.

No, he said I-ary.

Yeah, but he said I-Y is one of them sometimes because Because Y is sometimes a vowel. Yeah, but I, you and sometimes—

but I, Y, it's— that's two vowels, not a thing. Okay, we're gonna try it. That's right. Hey, you didn't put it in your list. It was an honorable mention, and that's fine.

Tournament. I would just say tourney.

I actually would like to— I'm more interested in that.

Yeah, yeah, no, we didn't hear it all. We got diarrhea.

Diarrhea is going.

Yeah, tough one. Good pick.

Memes kept on saying diarrhea.

We had forecast.

Okay.

Philanthropy.

Resource. Keep going.

That was pretty much it.

We covered most of it.

What about yours?

I was going to try and get McConaughey in there, but names don't—

What was forecast there?

That one's impossible.

What's going on with forecast?

I got forecast on here. Forecast, corrected.

What was it?

I just missed the E. Yeah.

Oh yeah.

Okay.

That makes sense.

I like a lot of guys put too many E's where they don't need to be and then not enough E's where they're supposed to be. Be.

Yeah, just kind of guess.

What about resource?

Resource, I think I got down. Yeah, I thought my, my really dumb one is—

No, Zach, you said resource.

Oh, you—

how would you spell resource?

Well, I got it right here.

R-E-S-O-U-R-C-E. Yeah, but how would you misspell it?

Yes, it would be R-E-S-O-R-C-E.

Okay.

Yeah.

What about—

you're actually like, I actually think hearing a lot of your spelling, I think you're just an efficient speller. 'Cause you're basically like, hey, this O-U, there's no need for O-U, just make it an O.

I get caught up spelling things how they sound, which you can't do.

Right.

What about Favre?

Favre?

Favre.

Yeah, Favre. Embarrass.

Yeah.

Is a tough one.

I think we had that.

Receive is a tough one.

Disappear.

Disappear.

I screw up the double S, double P's. Yeah, it's only one S.

You know, I think it might be the hardest word to spell, but nobody ever spells it. Like, I don't think I've ever actually written this word, but it's crazy to spell. Prerogative.

I'm not spelling that.

No, I've never— I've never written it before in my entire life. Yeah, but it's P-R-E-R-O-G-A-T-I-V-E. Pretty much impossible to spell right the first time.

Zach, I'll give you one that my brain just can't get right and always second guess. That's very easy. It's not really misspelling, but I always am second guessing couch and coach. Like, I'll spell coach or couch and I'll just be like, wait, what? Did I get that right? It just— I don't know what it is about those could be interchangeable.

Yeah, I see that.

Right.

Because you're just, you're swapping out a letter. What about Hank? You got any honorable mentions?

Mischief is below Bologna. Bolognaise.

Bolognese.

Okay.

Prosciutto. Surveillance. I think we said connoisseur.

We said yogurt.

Resource.

Yo, how do you spell yogurt? Zach, how do you spell yogurt?

I didn't throw that one out there, but yogurt is Y-O-G-U-R-T. Yogurt.

Yep.

This is honorable mentions, not spelling bee. We're doing honorable mentions.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Sweeney's hard.

What?

Yeah, I said McConaughey. And he's like, Sweeney.

Sydney Sweeney.

Yeah, I get caught typing IE at the end of that a lot. It's EY though.

I don't think she— she's not the one that's hard. No.

What?

Why?

Yeah, true. That's right.

Well, by the way, Zach, I need— I need— Yogurt was not spelled correctly the way you spelled it.

Max, I— after the reaction of Houseboy Yogurt, the outward laugh, I did. Okay, I was able to—

context clues.

Yogurt.

All right. I like to bow out of spelling.

No, I like this. It's kind of interesting. Like the— somewhere the Y and the IE became an interchangeable piece.

It's the sometimes Y, so you don't know when the sometimes is. They never get to that part.

No, but that's how it is. Sometimes Y, the I before the E.

No, that's, that's like I before E except after C. That's right.

But there, there is, there's a couple words that, that doesn't, that doesn't work.

Yeah, no, what Zach's saying is like Y can be a vowel. Yeah, like in the word why, W-H-Y.

I think Hooked on Phonics might be a scam. You got to live and die by the squiggle. You just go out.

Yeah.

I see what you're saying.

Okay.

Yeah, the squiggle. The squiggle is huge. So it was really spelling just doesn't matter anymore because you just got the squiggle.

Memes, what did Mincy say to you when you yelled at him?

What'd you say?

So that it was actually a scene outside because they're doing a livestream for the World Cup game. There was 5 people trying to get him to stop and he just wouldn't. He just wasn't. Did he stop?

Locked in.

He was finishing his workout. No, no. Is he still going? No, he's done now.

But Blutman recorded the entire thing.

McCarthy was yelling at him and like 4 other guys to stop. He's the worst. He's the absolute worst.

For a long time, my autocorrect was so screwed up from my tweets and shit that it would actually correct things that were spelled correctly into being spelled incorrect. It went the opposite way where it became harder to spell.

Isn't that the worst? When you, when you capitalize something that just stays capitalized on your text message? That sucks.

Yeah.

So you're like, I didn't really mean to do that.

There's a thing on spellcheck where if you accidentally hit, I think it's like forget or never mind, it'll just continue to allow you to spell that word like that forever.

That's—

yeah, no, that's unreal.

That's what happened with me for a long time. And it was on like, every single word that we mentioned today, I've lost all ability to spell correct the first time, because I've opted out of spellcheck.

I should have said leprechaun.

Oh, that's a good one.

Did that spelling— be— I spelled it wrong 3 times in a row.

Leprechaun's a tough word.

What about coco?

Cocoa's a tough word.

C-O-C-O-A. Yeah.

Donnie, remember, Donnie fucked that up.

What about fucking A-man?

F-U-C-K-I-N-G-A-M-A-N. Yep.

Yeah. Capital A maybe. And then comma after the A. Yeah.

This isn't— this isn't grammar.

It's not punctuation.

Grammar's a different one.

How do we think that went? That was kumbaya.

Kumbaya. Spell kumbaya.

Very kumbaya.

K-U-M-B-A-Y-A.

K-U-M-B— yep.

Yeah.

Max is spelling it K-O-O-M-B-A-Y-I-E. What are you doing, Max?

I spelled it wrong.

Kumbaya. That was a good Mount Rushmore. Good, good topic, Hank.

That was good.

Good job.

Someone emailed actually, the— her name is Mackenzie. She's emailed me.

That's a tough name to spell. So she probably is a friend of mine.

Tough birthday to remember.

Appreciate that, Mackenzie. Definitely send us some more Mount Rushmore topics. We'd love to hear all of them. Okay.

It is a real word, by the way.

Okay, let's do Hot Seat, Cool Throne. Check this out. I got the American Dew can right here because summer is coming and I can't wait to get my backyard, do some grilling, play with my kids, and drink some Mountain Dew. Nothing goes better than grilling with the boys than Mountain Dew, hanging with your friends. That refreshing citrus kick of Mountain Dew. Mountain Dew is proudly born in the foothills of Tennessee. Enjoy the refreshing citrus kick of Mountain Dew, an American original. Grab a Dew, tasting great since '48. Go get a Mountain Dew today. We love Mountain Dew. Thank you to Mountain Dew. The American Dew cans are incredible, so go get one. And celebrate America. Tasting great since '48. Mountain Dew. Okay, Hank, your hot seat, cold throw.

My hot seat are just people that are anti-international football games because I think, you know, we can all agree this World Cup's been electric. The international, you know, support and people in America has been great, especially the Scotland faithful in Boston for the first couple of games. So much so that Robert Kraft is now lobbying with the NFL to get a Patriots game in Scotland. So that's, that's how successful this World Cup has been, is that despite the fact that there's already so many international games, NFL owners want more.

Well, yeah, no doubt they want more.

That's the whole thing. We like, we know, we know that the owners want more because it's about expanding how much money.

But once you say that the having an international, you know, the most popular international sport being played in America has grown the game in America. Was that fair to say?

Yeah, I think it's fair to say.

So it kind of proves the point that having more international games, football, and internationally will grow the game of football, which is what we all want.

Again, because it'd be like if it was like in soccer, we're having an international tournament here. In foot— in American football, we're having two teams that both play football in the United States whose home cities pay tax money to get them to build new stadiums in those cities, leave the entire country for a week, and then they play football at a weird time zone. A bunch of people that are a weird time zone for these fans. And then, and then they come back to where the actual teams are based. It's not like we're— it's not like when we go over to Scotland, it's because we have a game against Aberdeen. It's because we're taking two teams from the United States and putting them in Scotland.

You're also missing a key part of this is I don't give a fuck about the expansion of the NFL, which is—

that's just so messed up.

No, it's really not. We— it's our sport. It should be played on our soil. It should be played on.

But the bigger football grows, the bigger this podcast grows. It's all— it's good for everyone.

Playing a Super Bowl in London and you're going to just be having the best time of your life is going to make me sick.

But the game will grow. And that's— I, as a football diehard, that's what matters the most to me.

Mm-hmm.

Can you imagine, imagine how much golf Hank would play if the Patriots went over to Scotland for a week?

I mean, probably bad weather. Depends when, when they played, I guess.

It's always gonna be depends on when they played.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then my cool throne is the 2016 Cavs. They've been doing like their, their reunion trip. And as much as I hated that team, as much as I don't like LeBron, It's been fun to watch. They've been— they've been— I feel like they've been doing it right. The 10-year anniversary content's been fun to watch. They've been on like— it seems like they've been on a trip for a month.

Yeah. Looks like a great time, though.

But yeah, it's— it's— it's been fun to follow.

Yeah. Dele showed up.

What teams do you think should be allowed to do a 10-year anniversary trip? Should be everyone.

I mean, like the Cubs. Cubs. This year, like, that's— that's going to be a big one.

Rizzo and And Ross's podcast is good, and they're doing a live show, I think, uh, in a couple weeks here in Chicago. Yeah, there's, there's definitely some teams. This one is definitely one of them. Like the 2016 Cavs, that was—

yeah, like, I guess if the 2017 Warriors did it.

Yeah, like the 2019 Raptors went to, to, to England to play golf for a week. I don't know, it'd be really weird. 2026 Knicks could definitely do a 10-year anniversary.

Yep. You have to be like a team of the decade, I think, in order to do that.

Correct.

I could see the Knicks pulling that off. Mm-hmm.

Were the 2016 Cavs the team of that decade?

No, because the Warriors won 3 titles, but they beat the team of the decade.

They did beat the team of the decade.

So the Knicks beating the Celtics last year, that could be them being the team of the decade.

Well, no, because that wasn't in the championship.

Still, it was pretty early on, and the Spurs could end up being the team of the decade.

Yep.

So the Knicks beat them, so they get to do it.

True. You have to wait and see.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

PFT.

My hot seat is Geno Smith. Geno Smith's on the hot seat. The cops showed up at his place after, I guess, his girlfriend called 911 and she said on video he can't be left alone with— I guess she was referring to the child. He can't be left alone with Geno. Because he'd rather watch sex online and play Call of Duty about Geno Smith. So Geno Smith allegedly jacking off and playing video games all day. Can't look after a kid. And I found out that not from the part of my take Twitter account, which I maybe that was my mistake for thinking that's where I would learn this news from. I found it elsewhere online, so I didn't know if anyone had any more context to it.

We— you're saying our Twitter account didn't report any of this?

Didn't report any of it. I was just thinking about the kids.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

In alleged situations, you should probably think about the kids. Thinking always, right?

Kids, right?

Yeah.

So were you ever going to report it or—

Well, it was reported by what, Shannon Sharpe's burner account?

Oh, OK. It's not like the Post. No, that's not.

Yeah.

Has anyone written about it?

Yeah. Yeah. I'm reading a pretty long article here.

Mike Florio, TMZ, NFL and ESPN reported it. He's being investigated.

ESPN did too. Okay, well, that was today, right? That's what I'm reading about it.

Yeah, but have we tweeted anything?

No, I thought we weren't allowed. What?

For alleged situations? That's actually— you can't say that to me. No, I don't.

Mm-hmm. What's up, memes?

Are we allowed to tweet about alleged situations with side pieces?

Oh, I wouldn't know anything about the side. I was talking about jacking off and playing video.

Oh.

I—

there's worse things to do in the world.

There are worse things to do. Agreed on that. We can agree, memes.

All right.

That's why I thought the whole jacking off Call of Duty was— it was funny.

Well, I think he just has a crazy ex-girlfriend.

It's a possibility for sure.

We're gonna let the facts come out. I'll let the facts come out.

All right. So I look forward to the facts coming out about that. Mm-hmm.

We will all check out the facts when they come out.

And then my cool throne. Is Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pitts just got an extension.

Nice.

So he signed a 3-year extension with the Atlanta Falcons.

He's—

I think he's going to be really good. I'm all in on Kyle Pitts right now.

I think what he's got is 6 touchdowns, 6 touchdowns.

He's going— what, for— he got 6 last year, 5, 6 this year, 7 next year, 8 the year after that. At the end of the year, he looks so good. Kyle Pitts is a beast. I am fully, fully back all in on Kyle Pitts. And then my other cool throw is the PGA Tour.

Yeah.

What's going on with that?

So they got Tiger involved and there's two distinct lanes now for golfers, which is— I guess that's why they wanted Tiger in charge of everything.

Yep.

So a rumble strip in the middle.

No rumble strip. Okay. So you can go back and forth between the two lanes. Got it. You can even straddle the two lanes. Got it. Which is what— yeah, Tiger is the expert on this. So he talked about it a little bit today. And I guess there's going to be relegation right now. They got the Korn Ferry Tour. Than the PGA Tour. What they're going to do, from what I've read, is they're going to make a limited field like 75 or so.

120, huh?

It's 120.

Oh, for the main tournaments. All right. So it's a limited field for the main tournaments. And then there's kind of like an underfield for every other tournament. So for the big ones with the giant purses, it limits it to just the top. I guess Hank said 120 and then everybody else.

That's what it is currently.

Right.

The signature events now are 75-person field with no cuts. They're doing away with that, but there's gonna be basically like 120 people in the main tour. Like I think it's the Champions Tour and then there's gonna be a 120-person field in the Challengers Tour and still the Korn Ferry Tour. So like, right. There's no sponsor exemptions. So like right now, like a lot of these events, like people that aren't in the top, you know, 120 can still get into these tournaments by sponsor exemptions. No more sponsor exemptions. You have to be in the top 120. If you're not in the top 120, you can, you know, play your way in mid-season through the Challengers Tour, right?

So they made two divisions out of the—

out of the—

it's like a minor— like it's more than— it's, it's like baseball now where there's multiple minor leagues and not just like Corn Ferry Tour, then the end of the year you can earn your PGA Tour card. There's more of a— you can, if you're in that, you know, 100 to 140 range, you can kind of bounce back and forth.

Yeah, if you're in the PGA Tour range, you can stay in there, just not get to the, the main tournaments with the giant purses.

They also did like, which I, I appreciated, I don't— we'll see how it goes— they did like a Future Us, the Tour Championship they just said they want to host them at like top 5 courses like Pine Valley, Cypress Point. Like they said they want to try and do that, but there's probably no chance they're going to be able to, right? But they're like, yeah, in the future. Right now the, the championship's played at like East Lake in Atlanta, but going forward we're going to try and do like Pine— like they just, they just kind of threw it out there.

Yeah.

Okay.

They also said that I think towards the end they're going to do match play to see who wins at the end of the year.

Yeah. Or like there's going to be a match play championship in addition.

Yeah, there will be match play involved in the format at the end of each season.

Just explain to me again in 3 years, 2 years, 2 years, I think next year, 2028.

I thought it might be next year.

Oh, okay. Explain to me again next year.

Oh, 2028.

Okay.

Yeah.

So I got a couple of years.

2 years.

Yeah. Then I'll, then I'll get ready for it. Okay. My hot seats. I've got two. The first is Brendan Sorsby because they're not doing a supplemental draft for the NFL. And that means Brendan Sorsby is not playing football this year or no. Can he be— he can't be signed as a free agent.

Can he go back to Texas Tech?

I don't know.

No, I think they've pretty much— it was understood that he's not going to play college football next year.

Can he play in the CFL or the UFL?

UFL?

That's crazy. I feel like he's gotten the worst advice every step of the way.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think that he thought that the NFL would just say we're not going to do the draft.

And I don't think— and he, he could have come out before all this stuff, so he probably got advice being like it's not a big deal. And then he got the advice being like, hey, we'll get a different judge and they'll say 2 games and everyone will be cool with it. That was bad advice as well. So Brendan Sorsby, you're going to have to wait a year.

Yeah. And also in the letter that the NFL sent him, it was pretty much like, hey, you waited too late. I noticed that you, you filed your application like 3 days before the deadline. That's kind of cutting it close. And you sought to avoid the consequences of that determination through litigation rather than accepting responsibility for your own actions. That feels like the NFL just doesn't want him playing. Yeah, it feels like it was just the teams got together and they're like, we have to, we have to try to take a stand against this.

Yeah.

If college football is not going to do anything about it.

Yeah.

They got him on a technicality, but now it's like, will he be able to sue the NFL for keeping him out of the supplemental draft? I think that, I think Brendan Swordsby just needs to sue his way out of this.

I think he just needs to, yeah, just be like, hey, you know what? I'm going to be in the courtroom.

Keep filing lawsuits until you win.

You're going to be on the field. I'll be in the courtroom. My other hot seat is Kent State. Football program. I don't know, this probably went under your guys' radar because he is a, uh, zero-star commit, but still, uh, Toledo— the Toledo Rockets have gotten the commitment from Kenston Staton, a high school football player from Ohio. His name is Kent State. Damn. And Kent State didn't get him.

That's tough.

Kenston Staton.

That's really, really hard.

How do you not get it? How?

Just the money that you might have gotten at Kent State in NIL.

What do they screw up? It's the— it's his name. Kenston State.

Did they not allow him in?

No, he had a visit. He got an offer from Kent State. He turned him down.

Jesus.

Is that not insane?

Yeah, that's tough. That's a tough break for that.

I feel like he might— look at this. Kenston State.

Glass City.

And his nickname is Kent. Now his name is Kent Staton.

I could see, I could see somebody doing this to their kid, trying to get them a scholarship to LSU at one point.

Yeah.

Being like, yeah, I named my boy, I named my boy Tiger.

Yeah.

And then LSU being like, that's not going to work.

This is tough though for Kent State. Come on, you got it. Kent State, you have to get, especially in your state. You have Kent, Kent State in your state, Kent Staton in your state. You don't, you don't get them.

This is the worst day in Kent State history.

Mm-hmm.

Easily.

Uh, all right, my cool throne is college basketball because Dusty May is going to the pros. And listen, I was making some jokes, uh, I was trying to help out our good friend Dave, uh, because it's brutal that he lost his coach. I was thinking about any way we could keep Dusty May. That was obviously facetious. Dusty May is an awesome coach, and I'm happy he's out of the Big Ten, and I'm happy he's out of college basketball because he probably would have kept dominating. And he's had one of the craziest rises in all of coaching history. The fact that it was FAU 3 years ago and now he's the head coach of the Dallas Mavericks after winning a national title at Michigan. I also did see, uh, that he had a summer camp on Monday, like right after. It was like Dusty May's coaching camp and it was at the Chrysler. And that's a tough day to be a camp counselor there.

That would be tough trying to explain what's going on. And then are they going to get an interim coach?

Yeah, they do.

They have—

I think he was on staff, I believe, as Boynton from Oklahoma State. And look, I'm, I'm just gonna say, I'm all I'm gonna say is Dusty May, great coach, and happy he's out of the conference. And it's in no way weird that Michigan keeps winning national titles and the coaches leave.

What happens? What happens to all the guys that he got from the portal?

I think they're just saying— I think a lot of them are saying, yeah, there was an article going around about Dusse May talking about how he hated, you know, having to do the college football transfer portal or college basketball transfer portal and dealing with agents and stuff. I think Dusse May just always wanted to coach in the NBA. Remember we had this like 2 months ago? Remember he had the quote that he's like, I'm not interested in any other— it was when the UNC job was up. Said I'm not interested in any other coaching, uh, uh, college basketball coaching jobs. He said college basketball, not NBA, not coaching, just college basketball. So yeah, I think he was always going to do this. I'm a little shocked that it happened this fast, but he gets a chance to coach Cooper Flagg. Why wouldn't he take that chance?

Yeah, uh, I, I've, I've just heard about how frustrated he's been with the transfer portal stuff to the point where he was, uh, like he couldn't even count who was going to be on his team. He was getting frustrated dealing with agents, but now I guess he doesn't have to deal with agents as much. I guess now there's people whose full-time jobs are dealing with agents all the time.

Yeah.

And you've got more ironclad contracts. I guess that was a big reason for it.

This is from— when is this from? It's from a couple months ago. I think it's the UNC job. Play it. Said he's not looking for any other college basketball jobs. Do you think that that was a— hmm, that's interesting. Why didn't he say all, all coaching jobs? Because he's going— I think he will be an NBA coach. Okay, so Johnny Fanta had it first.

I think that he wants to be an NBA coach someday.

Yeah, yeah, he's, he's a master. Here's the thing with the complaining about the agents and transfer portal stuff that I don't buy. You just won a national title with a dominant, dominant team that was built through the transfer portal. So you're like, oh, I hate this thing, but also I'm dominating with with it.

Yeah.

So, okay, just say you wanted to coach the NBA. You wanted to coach the NBA. You always wanted to coach in the NBA. It's probably a better life, uh, you get paid probably more. Actually, I don't know, you might not get— I don't think you get paid more. That might not be true. But it's, it's, you know, it's— the guys are competitive. They want to coach at the top, top level. Just say that. Not, oh, this, this transfer portal and dealing with agents sucks. Also, I'm really good at it and I could just keep doing it and dominating.

I mean, also in the history of the NBA and college, how many coaches have gone from college to the NBA and have it be like super successful?

Not a ton.

And they stay there. Brad Stevens. Brad Stevens.

Yeah. Do you think they made him say no?

Michigan? Yeah, probably not yet.

They have to.

They will, right?

Do you think the Mavericks made him say no?

Maybe.

Yeah, they had to have.

Brad Stevens.

They did. They did make John Shire say no.

They did.

He's staying at Duke.

Larry Brown. Larry Brown, probably the only one I can think that was like awesome in the NBA after coaching in college.

Yeah.

I mean, Billy Donovan did not with the Bulls, but with the Thunder was— I mean, those are some good teams.

Yeah.

I'm trying to think.

It's just like it's not same thing with, with, with football. It's not a surefire win for somebody like a really, really good college coach. To go coach in the NBA. But I do think that they're probably more prepared now than they used to be.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's the leagues are very, are very similar. But yeah, there's a, there's also a lot of Rick Pitino, John Calipari. There's a lot of guys who it did not work out for when they went to the NBA and they realized, oh shit, this is a little different because yeah. Yeah. I mean, guys are going to, it's just different. It's, I, they always, you know, they always talk about Hey, they're pros in college, but they're really not still like they are, but they aren't. And now it's a different— it's a different level.

So the Mavericks have the 9th overall pick tonight. We've recording this before the draft happened. That's going to be interesting to see what— how much of a say he has in the draft pick the day that they hire.

Oh, he's got some of his guys.

He does.

He's got a bunch of his guys. Zach, finish off.

My hot seat this week is going to be Edmonton Oilers fans. Because they announced a new head coach, former Columbus Blue Jackets coach. It's gonna be Mike Bob— Mike Bob Babcock.

Yeah. Yep.

I would just say I'm just hearing some things. He might be a weird guy, you know?

Yeah, he's got some—

he's going through phones, he's putting iClouds on projectors.

He's got some past.

You can't feel too good about that as far as like locker room culture.

Yeah, he's a hard-ass, maybe a weirdo.

Maybe everyone hates him, but hey, he's coaching the Oilers now. I bet they got a superstar on that team, don't they?

They do.

Like a guy that probably wouldn't take too kindly to somebody going through their phone.

Mm-hmm.

Why are there all these photoshops of you as a Tampa Bay Lightning player in here? Interesting. What does that mean? Interesting.

Would you guys go leave phone in the car, or would you get a second hockey phone?

Hockey phone.

If Mike Babcock— if Mike Mike Babcock was now my new head coach, I would definitely get a burner phone and just that would be the one I would show up to the facility every day and it would just be like, it just like, I just, does Mike Babcock, has he written a book? Like, it'd be like, you know, the only browser thing is just open to buying his book, open to Kindle and just that's it.

Or if you're looking to get a trade out of town, maybe you just have a bunch of photoshops of Mike Babcock on your phone. Mm-hmm. And then he puts them up on his projector. Yeah, that's not bad.

I kind of like that move.

And he gets embarrassed. He's like, I gotta, I gotta trade this guy.

Yeah, this is weird.

This guy's got a lot of weird shit about me on his phone.

Yeah. Okay, good hot seat.

And my cool thing this week is going to be cool from guys who don't like Floyd Mayweather because allegedly Floyd Mayweather may have scammed his last scam, gentlemen.

Oh no, he's out of scams.

What happened?

So he— a lot of times Floyd runs into these money troubles like civil court. Like some other kind of crimes he's able to like get done with lawyers. This time they're coming after him with felonies, boys.

Oh no.

There's, uh, 18 months ago he wrote a bad check to a jeweler New Year's Eve to get a watch for about $200,000. 18 months later he's still not responding to them and they're coming after him.

Mm-hmm.

Even though he's allegedly earned like $1.2 billion throughout his career.

All right.

I'll say we do in 20 years.

I'll say it. I'm starting to— you bring up a good point here, Zach. I'm starting to think Floyd Mayweather might not be a good guy.

Might be a bad guy, but he might have to pay for it this time, though.

We're going to— we're going to let more facts come out, right? Memes. Got to let all the facts—

every fact.

I will not— I will not make a full assessment. So every fact is out.

How do you— how do you spend $1.2 billion?

Unfathomable. I have no idea.

How is that possible? Like, his full-time job is just figuring out ways to spend money. It's crazy.

I don't even know where you keep that kind of money to go to it to spend it.

Let's just say he probably, after taxes— actually, he doesn't strike me as a big tax guy either. Let's say he made $800 million after the taxes that he did pay. How do you spend $800 million in what, 20 years, 25 years? How long has he been active?

There's, there's guys online like doing the math trying to figure out what his like ticket per month is, and it's like roughly $3 million a month he's spending.

That's crazy.

Just on like recurring mortgages, car notes, stuff like that.

Yeah, he's got to like, he's got to rent the most expensive house in the world. Mm-hmm.

Then he's selling those properties, but then he has like jumbo loans on those properties, so he's selling them for less than what the loans are on.

Yeah.

So then, yeah, not good.

Not good.

Up to 20 years if he's convicted of the the bad check for the AP.

Oh, is he crying in this interview? He's crying.

Oh, I don't know.

That might be something about something else.

Yeah.

All right. Good hot seat, cool throne, boys. We got some great interviews. We got Wyndham Clark and then Captain America, Tim Ream, from the U.S. men's national team. So let's get to that. Kumbaya.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. He is the US Open champion, Wyndham Clark, fresh off of his victory on Sunday at Shinnecock. Windham, first of all, congratulations. Two-time US Open champ. That's some, some rarefied air that you've now entered into. But I think the first question I was going to ask, the most important one, dude, people fucking hate you.

Geez, why don't you just— Geez Louise, that's harsh.

I—

we know we don't hate you.

We don't hate you. We, we had your back.

I mean, goodness, I— yeah, I, I, I don't know why they— I mean, I know I've done some things, but geez, hate's a strong word.

Well, so I— we, we were, we were hypothesizing on Monday's show, and I think that part of the, the reason why you had such a weird experience on Sunday, and it was totally out of control— well, actually, it was in your control— is that you just had such a big lead. And like, I know there's a lot of people that just want to see— they pay a lot of money to go to a golf event, they get to buy the Sunday ticket, they want to see fireworks, they want to see, you know, two guys really close to each other. I know it got a little tight, but I think that was part of it, is just that you were— had such a big lead that people were like, well, we want to see some, you know, we want to see some good golf. So that wasn't your fault.

Yeah, I mean, on Saturday, definitely. I mean, I'd miss a putt and people would say, yeah, like, yes, or give them a chance, you know, whatever. So I definitely heard that part because— and I get that, like, hey, if someone wins by— unless it's Tiger Woods, people want to see it close, right?

Right.

I get that part. But, you know, yelling for my ball to go in the bunkers.

Yeah.

Look, credit to you, man. I feel like that was such an incredible performance by you all weekend long where you were— you know, we had Max Homa on Monday too, and he said that that shot you made on 16 on Saturday That was, that was a shot that was like Tiger-esque in the fact that you're not, you're not just trying to protect a lead, you're trying to go for the throat and you're trying to actually win this tournament. And I think a lot of guys in your spot probably wouldn't have made that shot, wouldn't have taken that shot. Did you have that mentality of like, hey, I know I'm up 6 strokes, 7 strokes, but this is go time and we got to make sure that this is basically put to bed?

Yeah, I was trying. Oh, I love it.

Yeah, we got the— we're opening up some great—

I already, I already got—

cheers, cheers to the— cheers to US Open. Incredible.

Yes, thank you, la familia.

That's good, that's good.

Um, just living life under par.

Hey, you got some red stuff, I like that.

Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, we got the good stuff.

Um, yeah, I was actually trying to get to, uh, I was trying to get to double digits, honestly. When on Friday I really thought I could have gotten there, and then Saturday, you know, I made some mistakes to, you know, it could have been a lower round. And my whole thing was, instead of thinking about my lead, I was trying to get to a number and be like, okay, if I get to 10, 11, 12 under, like, it's gonna be hard to catch. Unfortunately didn't happen, but that's— I feel like that's what I was thinking on 16. Hey, I'm not just trying to keep the lead, I'm trying to, you know, extend this lead.

Yeah. What were your thoughts when you got up to the ball on 16, when you saw the lie, uh, to the left of the fairway? Because that was a nasty hook. Yeah, yeah, nasty hook that you hit. And it was in the fescue. And I think Bones said like, this is a terrible lie. This is horrendous, horrendous, as bad as it gets. And then you walk up there, you're like, I think I can get a club on it. I think we can get up past that bunker. Like, what did you see when you saw that ball?

Yeah, I mean, all week the lies have actually been not bad. Like, you walk up, you go, oh no, I'm in the long grass. And then you can, you know, you get to the ball and you're like, okay, we're good. We can advance this. It might be a jumper. Or whatever. That one actually did look bad. The good thing that is, I, I could get to the back of the ball, and, and for a golfer, as long as you can get to the ball first, you know you can advance it. And that's what I was able to do. Now, you know, maybe it was kind of a dumb shot in that moment, but I'm like, I think I, I really thought I could do it. And it was one of those decisions that maybe if it didn't work out, that'd probably be one of my big regrets. But, you know, fortunately I pulled it off and was able to make a birdie on Yeah, and your putter was incredible all weekend.

I saw the scrambling stats. Like, that was, that was the gritty part of your win that I thought people need to give more credit to you. Did you have a feeling at any point during the tournament you're like, oh shit, this, this thing is hot? Like, I am, I'm dialed in on this putter because it felt like every single time that it was going to maybe dip, oh, he's got a 15-footer, you were just nails on those putts.

Yeah, I mean, on those greens, it's really hard to feel like you're making a lot of putts. But I think relative to other people, I was, if that makes sense.

Yeah.

Um, but yeah, I mean, my putter saved me, by for sure saved me. I mean, I, I chipped a lot close and gimme, but I also had so many kind of 5 to 12-footers for par, and I was, you know, more often than not making it. And it's, it's huge when you make those for momentum, right? Like, it just keeps it going, and you're like, okay, I'm good, I didn't give one up, I didn't give one up. And, you know, the guys I played with would miss those and you could just see the momentum kind of turn against them. And I was able to keep it, you know, going for me.

Yeah. And then after you win, there was that moment we got to see on TV where you saw your dad. So we knew that your dad was there because the cameras showed him. They're like, yeah, he took the red-eye in. Wyndham doesn't know that he's at the tournament yet. What was that like when you saw him for the first— did you have any idea at all that he was going to be there?

No, no. My, my dad hasn't made it to any tournament I've won. And, you know, the first Open I won, he wasn't there, which, you know, such a bummer. Um, but this one, he, you know, he was, and I, I was completely shocked and I was also super excited because we got to share that moment, especially on Father's Day, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

What better gift I could give my dad is, is he's seen me through all the years and all the hard work and he's helped me get to where I'm at. So it was great to share it with him.

And, and so we were talking about this as well. If you have a 3-stroke lead, does he take a red-eye? Did you ask him that? You're like, hey Dad, thanks for coming, but 6 strokes, that's what— that was the bar that you needed to get out on a flight?

Yeah, I mean, I don't know, I, I'm just glad— he was probably freaking out because he's like, holy smokes, I came and, and he was at 6, 6 strokes ahead and now it's only 1. You know, I didn't want him to think it was his fault, so I'm glad I won. Yeah, um, but yeah, I mean, I think, I think the 6 strokes made him feel confident. Okay, my son can pull pull this off.

Yeah, did you—

going into— it was a really cool moment, and on Father's Day it was just awesome that he was able to surprise you like that. Going into Sunday, did you happen upon any of the stats? They were throwing them out there that like, I think it was 13 guys have been— had that type of lead, and the only one to blow it was Greg Norman. Did you— did any of those like reach your brain?

No, I, I honestly, I turned off like any social media. I was almost not even texting friends and family. Like, I— whoever I was with in the house that I was staying with, that's all we did. I didn't really look at my phone. I had a million text messages and just didn't look. You know, I figured nothing's going to really benefit me.

That's smart.

I didn't know.

You don't have one friend? Because I would unfortunately be that friend who'd be like, hey, I saw this stat on like Saturday night. You don't have one guy like that? That's a good group of friends.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I probably did. I haven't gone through all my text messages, but yeah, I have friends like that that point out like, hey, you almost blew the biggest lead ever. But so yeah, that's why I didn't look, because I do have friends like that.

Yeah, that's smart. What would you say to the haters out there? Not us, but the, uh, the haters that are out there that say this— congrats on winning your first US Open because LA Country Club was Mickey Mouse.

This is what—

this is Wyndham. This is like the, the levels. Some like it— we enjoyed it so much because it— watching people melt down online about you winning was so funny to us. That was a real thing, like being like, yeah, he won at LACC and we didn't like that course, so that didn't really count.

Yeah, well, it counted to me. Yeah, uh, I will say the validation of like, hey, sometimes you can win one and people think, oh, that's a fluke, Wyndham, that was a fluke thing. Winning two, I don't know if you can really say it's a fluke, especially on this golf course going against a, you know, a really heavy top leaderboard with some of the best players in the world.

Yeah, that's a really good answer. In fact, good process.

Good process.

Good process on that answer.

Thank you. Really good process. I actually got my caddy in the room, he was yelling, process, process, process.

Can you tell us about the process? Like, what makes a good process? Process?

Um, well, first off, having a process, uh, is a good start. And then, um, you know, for me, if we're getting into the, you know, the details on it, it's all about like my routine— taking a breath, making sure I'm 100% confident and assertive on the shot we're about to hit, pick my secondary target, look up, kind of same amount of looks, and then really no clutter and just pull the trigger and hit the shot.

Yeah, that's a good process. Yeah. What about the process on the step-off on the back nine? Yeah, because we talked to Max about that too. He said maybe he had to fart. Sometimes he stepped off when he's got to release a little toot and then you step back in. So what was that process like?

When I've had to fart, I maybe just stay behind a little bit or ask Dave like, hey, is it for sure 7-iron? And when I know it's 7-iron, he's like, yeah, it's 7-iron. And that's when you're letting one out. But when I back off, it's because I'm not my mind is like thinking about the grape I'm going to open up rather than, hey, it's left edge, I got to start this online or whatever. So I back it. People think like, oh, it's nervous. It's like my mind wasn't where I needed it to be. Back off, come in. Like, you know, sure, I missed maybe a couple of those, but I also made more ones, um, than I missed when I did back off because it's simply just like hit it when you're ready.

Yeah.

Um, so speaking of process, you— it was cool because like you were On Sunday, we got to hear more about you and like everyone on your team, and we heard about your sports psychologist. Now, I have a problem with her because I think she should have had to stay out there and listen to the gallery. She went inside, she said. Did you talk to her after being like, hey, you're— you got to be a foxhole person, like you got to be out there, maybe even just saying like, hey, stay in the fairway after you hit a shot, or something like that, kind of reversing it?

I definitely needed her saying stay in the fairway because I could not find one all day. Yeah, maybe next time I'll tell her to put on some boxing gloves and go around and— Yeah, people out or something.

Yeah.

What was it? What was the meanest thing that was said to you? Was it just like, get in the bunker? And when they were cheering, when the ball would like—

I mean, there was a lot of stuff. I mean, a lot of people telling me that I'm going to choke. A lot of people saying no one likes you. You know, the cheers when it would roll off the green, they would You know, that was some of the craziest stuff. I knew when I hit a good shot was because they were quiet, and then when I hit a bad shot, it was like, you know, it's like I just made a 30-footer for birdie. They were all clapping like, yeah, you know. So things like that. There's a handful of people that got kicked out. Yeah, I mean, there was some stuff people saying, obviously the locker stuff, um, you know, anytime I missed a putt, people were like, oh, bad day to be a locker, or, you know, don't let him in the locker room, you know, just the constant chirps. But whatever.

Listen, I honestly think like the best PR that you were given is the fact that people were so weird to you on Sunday and you didn't react. Like you didn't— you were just nails. You were basically playing a Ryder Cup by yourself. And like your ability to stay in the moment and not react and not let anything bother you. I don't know how anyone— if you— however you feel about Wyndham, like I don't know how you can't walk away from that being like, that was impressive. What he just accomplished in the face of all that shit.

Yeah. I mean, thank you for saying that. I appreciate it. Believe me, I wanted to— anytime I made a putt, I wanted to like point at him, do something. But I'm like, okay, it's not a Ryder Cup. They already don't like me. Let's not make them hate me even more. So I didn't do it. I'd say the one time I really kind of showed emotion was on 16 when I made that putt. And it's funny. I mean, I made it. I yelled. You know, and no one else did. Yeah, like 5 people were like, yeah, and it sounded like it was, you know, from the rafters. You could barely hear it.

Yeah.

Hank, do you have any questions for Wyndham?

Uh, yeah, golfers, different golfers have different stances on this. How aware of you, how aware were you of the leaderboard on Sunday? Like, were you checking it or were you just focused on your game? Like, did you know you were only up 1, you know, with 3 holes to go?

Um, I didn't really look to the back nine, and then my caddy Dave was— we, um, made a par or something on, I think it was 13, 12 or 13, and he goes, do you want to— or 12— he goes, do you want to know, or do you whatever? And I go, hell yeah, I want to know. Like, it's now, hey, we're playing against, against Sam, and like, we got to figure out where we're at. And so kind of right around 12, he's like, hey, we got a 3-shot lead. Of course I bogey the next hole, so then it goes to 2. Um, but yeah, I, I knew the last 6, 7 holes I was, I was looking quite a bit because I wanted to know like, okay, if he's making birdies maybe, or gets the tie or whatever, like I need to be more aggressive and try to make birdies as well. Or hey, he made a bogey or double, like, hey, we're playing very conservative, we're not going to take any, any unnecessary risks.

Yeah.

Do you hear the roars and try and like determine what the roars are for, or you're not even worried about what, like, what the possible cheers are?

Or the only thing was on 16, um, we knew, uh, Sam was on 18, and so we both, like, we heard something and he go— um, we were walking and Dave was like, hey, that was on 16 green, he's already through. And so then as we were walking and we didn't really hear any roars on 18, we assumed like, okay, he made par. And then when we got to 16 or finished 16, I looked and I was like, okay, so he's done. He posted at 3. We have a 2-shot lead. So yeah, it was right. Those last 3 holes, I definitely knew exactly where I was.

Yeah. What was it like in the, in the clubhouse with Scottie right after you won? Because the cameras showed you guys walk in there together and it was his birthday. That's— that was kind of like a funny twist to the entire day, too. It's like the crowd was rooting against you and they were literally singing Happy Birthday to Scottie Scheffler. For the entire round. Uh, what did he say to you when you guys got in that— into the clubhouse afterwards?

Yeah, I mean, Scotty is, uh, he's a killer, man. Like, we didn't talk much during the round. We're, we're buddies. Um, we've obviously been on Ryder Cup and Presidents Cup together. We've played practice rounds, played a lot of competitive rounds against each other. Um, but when we get inside the ropes, we're both killers. Like, we, we want to beat each other. And, um, so there was not much talking during the round. Afterwards, he, he gave me praise and was like, hey man, that was amazing. And, you know, and then he was back to his normal self in the clubhouse. And I really applaud and appreciate what he said in the presser. And so, yeah, I mean, nothing but respect for that guy. And, you know, I know people wanted him to win the Grand Slam and he's going to. I mean, he's so incredible and just not— it wasn't this— it wasn't his weekend.

Yeah. What was it like on Thursday when the wind dies down and you're literally the only person playing? Was that weird?

Yeah, I mean, we got very lucky. Let's just say that. I mean, going into Thursday, I was like, oh my God, we're going to have all the wind. Like, this is a bad draw. 2-hour fog delay. Then I look, I'm like, oh, the wind's going to die down. And it did. And next thing you know, our group, we had a badass group. I mean, DJ and Gary, we were with the bros. They're both homies. We all started making tweets left and right, and we just kind of fed off of each other. We were at 6-4-3, you know, we were kind of all leading the tournament. So the vibes were high the first 2 days for sure.

Yeah, I love that phrase. How come I've never heard— we just started making tweets.

Yeah, I got phrases left and right. Great tweets.

I like that. Let me know, get out there and make some tweets.

Yeah, that was the other— that was the other asterisk everyone tried to throw on, on this one, is that you were somehow the only person who played with, with no wind on Thursday. It's like half the field was still playing. And then you also had the third best round, I think, on Saturday. So people are— people, you have people in fits right now. It's got to feel kind of awesome.

Hey, haters are gonna hate. What I mean, geez, unless I just play absolutely flawless, I have the worst draw, and whatever, then people might finally give me some validation. But hey, you know what, a dub's a dub. Doesn't matter if you get a good draw or bad draw.

Yeah. Have you thought about the other— the other PR thing I was throwing out there on Mondays? Have you thought about maybe going by your middle because we think maybe there's something about Windham that, that pisses people off. And if you went by Bobby— if you were Bobby Clark, you might have had some people rooting for you on Sunday.

Yeah, I've never thought of that. I don't know how you come up with these questions. That's, it's, uh, that's a nice question. You know, I don't— Bobby Clark doesn't have quite the ring that, uh, Windham Clark has. But if next time I come to New York, I'll have maybe a little different— I'll be Bobby Clark.

Yeah, yeah, Robert Clark.

Windham is a— it's a timeshare company. So people maybe in the back of their head, they're like, I can't stand this guy, got me locked in 40 years, crazy interest rate.

I get it, actually. Timeshares can be tough. I mean, I feel like timeshares never work out. So yeah, I get it. Robert Clark just sounds like your regular dude.

Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, who's this? Who's this, Larry?

I mean, the other piece of PR advice we'd have for you is just win the President's Cup. Like, if you go out there and you represent the United States and you dominate, guess what? Everyone's going to be rooting for you.

Well, I thought the jersey thing would make the New Yorkers love me. Like, New York loves USA. I wore a USA jersey in Canada. Jack Hughes. Like, I thought that would be like, oh, you know what? We're Wyndham fans. But somehow that just, you know, went through the cracks, I guess. Yeah.

Yeah. The Long Island— they might not necessarily be the biggest readers of the newspaper, so they might not— that might not have come across.

Yeah.

They were worried about the Knicks.

Yeah.

They had other stuff going on.

Yeah.

Yeah. That was all happening.

I get it. I get it. Has the newspaper anymore, so that's probably part of the problem.

Yeah. Has the, uh, has the check cleared yet?

The check, the money is good.

Oh, did you, did you, did you do the like swipe up on your bank account just to see it hit?

Yeah, it's kind of nice.

Yeah, that's got to be awesome. Are you playing this next weekend?

Nice seeing those zeros. Yeah, hey man, come on, I, I gotta make a living, um, and you know, I, I want to make the Presidents Cup team. It's not far, it's in Connecticut. They gave me my first sponsor invite, so, you know, I love that place, so I got to go up there.

Did you know, uh, how much do you guys think about when you win something like the US Open that you now are, uh, qualified for the US Open for a decade? So you actually, the next time it's at Shinnecock, that's when your eligibility runs out. Does that ever like come across your brain where you're like, oh, this is kind of cool, like no matter what I'm still playing in the US Open for 10 years.

Yeah, it's great. Once a year I have max stress for, you know, that's just— let's just plan for it. Yeah, it is nice because I tried— I started trying to qualify for the US Open at like 14. So wow, I didn't make my first US Open until maybe I was 26 or 27. So 13 years I tried and didn't make it. So it's now amazing to be like, hey, I don't— at least for 10 more years, I don't have to go qualify for this thing. So that— it's a huge perk.

Yeah, that's really great. And would you— would you say that the Travelers is the 5th major, or what's the 5th major in your book?

You know what, for them, I'll give them a little plug. Hopefully I get a sponsorship. Travelers, 5th major.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, sound like you really meant that one.

Did you— did you open up some grape out of—

out of the—

out of the, uh, out of the trophy, or was that just beer in the trophy?

Oh, everything was in there. I don't do champagne. Last time I did champagne, I don't know if you heard my interview with Rapoport, but I did champagne. I threw up the next day, had to go to the hospital. So there was champagne in it and I let everyone else drink it. But initially it's beer because it's like, okay, if we're going to pass this thing around, it's a little easier to chug beer than wine. But eventually later in the night it was just— I mean, poured bottles in there and we were just, you know, that's— this is the ultimate glass, right?

It is. It is. All right. I got one last question. By the way, speaking of another classy move by Wyndham for people who are on the fence, like, hey, should I root for this guy? You should root for him. I watched the video. The guy who engraved the trophy, Windham had him drink out of it first. That was— he was like, you, you have to start this. And then he got to drink out of it first, and then Windham did it. So that's a good Bobby Clark move. Like, that's a solid Bobby Clark move.

Uh, all right, well, I gotta tell you, there's background to this. So in '23, there was a lady— we're like, how long have you done this? She, um, you know, engraved it. She goes, I've done this like 20 years, whatever. And we go, have you ever drank out of it? She goes, no, never. And I go, well, today's the day. So she was the first one. Then we had a different guy this time, asked him the same thing. He's like, no, I've never done it. I said, well, this is, this is the Clark tradition. This is what we do. So he drank out of it. He was like, you know, to the moon. He was so happy. You want to take pictures. So I think it's a cool thing. I mean, the guy's putting my name Yeah, this trophy, might as well let him enjoy it.

It was very, very cool. I love that video. Uh, all right, last question, Roback question. rhoback.com, promo code TAKE, 20% off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com, promo code TAKE. Zach, you got one for us?

How you doing there, sir? Uh, quick question, uh, what would you say, how many hot dogs would you say you eat on average round during an average round of golf?

Me?

Yeah. Uh, I mean, I don't ever eat hot dogs. You know, so never. I mean, but one, maybe.

Okay. Do you have a follow-up?

How many do you eat?

Me?

I would probably say average of two.

Average of two.

Okay.

Well, I'm a, you know, I'm an athlete. We try not to eat processed meats. And, you know, while we're playing, that could put me in a little bit of a food coma. But great hard-hitting question.

Yeah, yeah, good question.

I do a follow-up. Uh, I was curious if I could just take you back to December 3rd, 2016. Uh, you— we were talking, you said haters gonna hate on Twitter earlier, to earlier in this interview. Uh, you did tweet, I hate Baker Mayfield, and I was just curious if you still feel that way. Maybe your thoughts on that, maybe you're— that hate in your heart's gone away, or what— maybe where you're at on that.

I'm trying to decide if I should tell the story Yeah, all right, screw it. I, I don't care, people already hate me. So, uh, no, it's not that bad. My PR team's here.

You listen, your PR team's on the hot seat because we're coming up with ideas they never thought of.

No, they didn't. They prepped me for everything. They didn't prep me for this one. My girlfriend at the time cheated on me with Baker Mayfield.

That's a fair tweet.

Okay, yeah.

But here's what I will say, as I've— that one's dying— as I have come to like— I'm actually a Baker fan now. I think he's a homie. I, you know, that's your initial response, right?

Screw that guy.

But really, screw the, you know—

yeah, yeah, your girlfriend.

Yeah, but yeah, so I'm a Baker fan now. But you know, that's where it came from.

That's a totally— we, we were trying to figure it out. We're like, oh well, Oklahoma State, there's natural hate there. No, this is, uh That's a totally fair tweet.

This is, this is personal. I hope actually this is a bro moment for us to be like, oh bro, I didn't know, my bad. She never told me. And I'm like, oh, it's all good. We're homies. Let's play golf. Like, that's where this comes from.

We're good friends with Baker. We can get that. We can connect this.

We can bury the hatchet.

We can talk about it. We can like, hey man, like, yeah, that was great. Yeah, we can talk.

Yeah, I think this is actually perfect. It's like, yeah, you know, in the time I was upset, but as we move on, we realize that things are more complicated. He probably didn't mean anything by it. So we learn, we grow, we move on. That's a beautiful moment.

Yeah, it's a bro moment that we're gonna blow out. I can feel it coming.

Yeah.

Okay, perfect.

All right, well, Wyndham, uh, we, you know, we were being accused of, uh, liking you too much because you, you were on the show, but we do like you. So, uh, we're rooting for you, and congrats again. Incredible, incredible, uh, tournament for the US Open. And cheers, cheers to 2 and many, many more. Opening up the grape. Great. Nothing like grape at 10:00 in the morning where we are.

I know we're both alcoholics, but hey, great.

All right.

Thanks, William.

Appreciate it. All right.

Cheers. Here's to many more tweets.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is Captain America, Tim Ream, from the U.S. men's national team. Tim, thank you for joining us. Uh, let's just start right now. Are we, are we the best at soccer? I feel like we're the best at soccer now.

Uh, yeah, I mean, we're the best, um, since we call it soccer. Yeah, we're the best. Why not? Okay, let's go with that.

Yeah, it's like us and Australia. New Zealand, they call it soccer. We have the— we just beat Australia, so therefore we're the best at soccer.

I think I saw somewhere that they were the title holders of some sort and then we beat them. So therefore we are the title holders as well. We've taken over that, that, yeah, that distinction.

Yeah.

Where's the shirt?

It was the best soccer rivalry trophy game that we didn't even know that we were playing in until after we won.

Correct.

Yeah.

Okay.

That's great. But it's been, it's been awesome to watch this team and I've been my entire life following international soccer at this level and seeing the style of play that we have now from the United States is so much fun to watch and it seems very different from the way that we've kind of organized our teams in the past and the evolution since we've gotten a new coach in here. That's also been fascinating to watch. Like, what was, what was the point that you realized that what we're building could actually translate into a highly successful formula for the U.S. team with the new coaching staff?

Honestly, I think it was last summer we played in our regional tournament, the Gold Cup, obviously, and just all the way the group, you know, gelled together on and off the field, the demands that the coaching staff are putting on us. It makes it hard, but it's, it's, it's a fun hard. Like people, people say, oh, there's, there's, you know, what are you doing? Why does it make it so hard? Just the amount of work that we're going through. But, you know, to your point, you're absolutely right. Like the evolution of where we were to where we are now and, and how aggressive we are is so very different to, to anything that, that we've ever experienced with the national team. And we're having fun doing it. I think that's the biggest thing is how much fun it is to do it and, you know, connect with with the fans around the country.

Can you, can you tell a vibe shift on this specific team? Because you've been part of, you know, the U.S. Men's National Program for a very long time, played in the World Cup 4 years ago. Is it— does it feel a little different in terms of just the confidence going into each game?

Yeah, huge, huge difference. I mean, just, just looking at guys like, I can, I can see, you know, what kind of, what kind of mood they're in, right? And what kind of vibes that they're feeling and how confident everybody is. And it does. It's cliché, right? But it starts in training. You know, you watch the guys put in the amount of effort and work that they put in every single day in training. And that translates. Sometimes our trainings are harder than games. That's how hard we train. And you can feel that going into, you know, into the match days and how calm everybody is, but how focused and how ready, you know, and confident everybody is. You know, when that first whistle blows, whistle blows.

Yeah. One thing that we've been pretty good at in the first two games is forcing our opponents to score on their own goal. And we've got— we've gotten back-to-back with that. Is that something that's practiced? I mean, obviously you can't like kick a ball, aim for another guy's foot, but the concept of just like dumping balls across the goal line, putting defenses in stressful positions like that, is that something that's been— that's been like a point of emphasis or worked with for you guys?

Yeah. I mean, listen, we always talk about getting you know, getting on top of teams and being aggressive and, you know, being on the— what we call on the front foot, right, where you're just attacking and you're attacking over and over and over again. And that puts tremendous amount of pressure on anybody, right? All of a sudden they feel like they can't— they can't put one foot wrong, right? They can't— they can't step the wrong way or else, you know, look— look what happens. 2 games, 2 own goals. I believe that's Yeah, I don't know that it's even— it's ever been done before in a World Cup, but it creates this feeling of, you know, we're in for a tough, tough day, right? The first couple of minutes and your defenders are leaning back instead of being aggressive and, you know, acting instead of reacting. So it's definitely something that we've talked about, starting games quick, getting the better of our are, you know, the opponents from, from the, you know, early, early on.

Yeah.

So when you were named captain of the U.S. team, Pochettino said that doesn't guarantee a starting spot for you, but you mean more, you know, in the locker room and for the entire vibe of the team. That's where your value is. Is that— was that a sneaky diss? How did you take that?

Honestly, no, definitely not a sneaky diss. I think it was more of a sneaky challenge than anything. But you know what, I, I'm fully on board with, with that sentiment and what that message is. Right. You know, that, that is, that is consistent with everything that he's, he's always said since, since the day he stepped foot through the door is that nobody is guaranteed, you know, to be on this team. Nobody is guaranteed to start. Nobody's guaranteed to be playing minutes. And it's down to us as players to, you know, to take that message on board and, you know, work work, you know, work as hard as you possibly can every day. And even then, that might not be, you know, enough to get minutes. So I don't see it as a diss. I, like I said, I take all, you know, all messages as a challenge. And, you know, you either overcome that, you know, that challenge, or you, you know, you accept that, you know, where your role is. But, you know, him and I have a great relationship, as he does with all the players. And so So obviously a huge honor to be a captain.

And then it's just down to me to put in the work to make sure that I'm on the field.

I just realized he made a great choice in making you captain because that was probably a test. And like a person like me would take that as a sneaky diss. And that's why I should never be a captain. But wait, what the fuck? I'm not starting because I'm the captain. You saw it as a challenge. That means you're a perfect captain and a guy who can help bring everyone together?

Yeah, I don't know about perfect, Captain. You know what? I'm not doing this all by myself. I'll tell you that. There's, there's a lot of guys in this group who, you know, I lean on just as much as they lean on me. And, you know, I like to think of myself as just somebody who's, who's part of a machine, right? A cog in a machine and just doing my role and playing my part and helping the, helping the group in any way, any way that I can. But like I said, it's such a unique position. There's only been 2 home World Cups for the US. And I'm, you know, I have the opportunity and I've been given the armband as only the second, you know, home World Cup captain for the US. So it's a very, very special and unique position to be in.

Yeah. Are they going to give you a break on Thursday? Do you want a break on Thursday?

You know what? I'm comfortable either way. Yeah, whether I play or not is, again, it's not totally up to me. I love playing games. I love playing minutes. I love being a part of the team. And as you alluded to before, I've been around a long time. I've played a lot of games. And I know that, you know, this is my, you know, my last World Cup realistically. So I want to play as many games as I possibly can. We'll see. I don't, I don't need a break, but if they want to give me one, then, then obviously it's somebody else's opportunity to, to, you know, to go in there and do their thing.

Has that been a point of conversation leading up to this third game where, like we were talking about it, the, the fact that they changed the rules in terms of it's now head-to-head and not goal differential. It's got to be a little weird. You have all this momentum. How do you guys keep that edge in that momentum when you're like, ultimately this game doesn't actually matter?

Well, that actually goes back to what I, what I mentioned before is that the training sessions, right? And every guy in this, in this squad and in this team are deserving of playing, playing minutes. Right. And because we've done so well, there is an opportunity, whether it's, it's used or not, to, to give guys minutes that, that could, could potentially make us a better team going into the knockout rounds. So we'll see. You know, guys, guys are, like I said, guys are working hard. They're, they, they, everybody deserves to play. And it's just a matter of picking an 11 to go out there and do it. I don't think it's going to change, you know, the momentum either way, because everybody's so hungry. Everybody wants to contribute. Everybody wants to be a part of this, this special feeling and this wave that we're riding and the momentum that we have. So It is unique because of, as you said, the rule changes. You know, you can almost, you know, with the yellow card, the guys who are on yellow cards, who, you know, if they get another one, they'll miss the knockout rounds. That's, that's a consideration you have to take into, into account.

So we'll see. We'll see what happens come, you know, come Thursday.

Yeah. And also, you're the first guy to get off on the mistaken identity yellow card against Paraguay. That's crazy that they mistook you. They were like, oh, you look so much like the forward from Paraguay. We accidentally gave it to the wrong guy.

Crazy, right? I look exactly like Al Maroon. Yeah, I never knew that. I speak the same language as well.

Yeah, no, it was, it was weird because I definitely, definitely not. I feel like you, you, you successfully argued your way into a changed yellow card, which has never happened before.

Well, I made history.

Yeah.

Yeah. First, first one ever. I mean, I knew right away, right? I put my hand up and gave him the old finger wag and said, no, not a chance. Didn't, didn't actually happen. But yeah, making, making history left, right and center for this group.

Why not? Have you guys practiced not putting your hands over your face when talking? Because that's also crazy in this World Cup that we've gotten that as a, you know, if you, if you, if you do the— it's almost like the NFL coaches who have their play sheet in front of them. You're not allowed to do that. Is that a point of emphasis?

We actually, you know, we had a So we had a pre-World Cup meeting where we discussed this, right? And FIFA, they— we did a call with them and they said, you know, these are the rule changes. This is going to happen if you do that. We were watching that game when it happened and everybody was in total, like, total shock. And I think it really hit home that, that, yes, they are going to enforce this. And we, you know, I think there was like 5, 6, 7 of us had a kind of a group, a group chat yesterday after training talking about different scenarios where we think they would give you a red card or maybe they'd be lenient. And we were just like, yeah, you know what, we're just not— don't even, don't even like act like you're like wiping your nose or anything. You just go, you got to go all kinds of different ways instead of putting the hand over.

Yeah. Yeah. Or like put your hands behind your back. Like, I'm not hitting you. I'm not saying anything bad. I can't even cover my mouth.

Yeah.

I mean, can someone else walk up to you and help you wipe your face off?

Oh, I don't know.

We're going to, yeah, we're going to, we're going to come up with all sorts of different things.

Yeah. You get Joe Scali to walk over, put his hand in front of your mouth, and then you can say whatever you want. Is that, is that right?

Exactly.

Uh, well, I don't know. I guess we'll find out.

Yeah.

Actually, maybe we shouldn't.

Probably not. Yeah.

It also feels kind of offensive towards Italians who talk with their hands and like if their hands are flying everywhere, you might have a problem.

Yeah. Demonstrative, right? Like they, they are very, um, they use their, their arms and they wear their emotions. Right.

But.

Good thing the Italians aren't here, so it doesn't really matter.

Yeah, they would have all gotten red cards. Yeah, it would have been a mess. Yeah. I love your coach. We love Pochettino and everything that he's kind of instilled in this team. The, the counter-pressing, the aggressiveness that we play with has been awesome to watch. And I was reading about him when we first made the hire, and I was reading about how he believes in universal energy and how he believes that, like, whatever energy you put into things actually like physically can transform stuff. I didn't know if you had any stories about that or conversations that you've had with him or examples that you've seen of, of some of this, some of this belief that he has. But whatever it is, it's working, man.

You are— you've done your homework, huh?

I mean, I read about the guy. I love U.S. soccer. That's, that's like— I don't give a shit about the EPL. I don't care about any of the professional leagues, but I love U.S. soccer. So yeah, when we hired him, I was like, okay, I want to know everything about the guy.

That's awesome. Now, you know what? He, he is a very positive person. He is, you know, obviously as a coach, you have to, you have to, you know, give criticism and you have to get on to guys and push them in certain ways. But his whole thing is about connection. His whole thing is about connecting with each individual player and the individual and the players connecting with each other and and having this, yeah, this, this kind of aura and vibe around the team of togetherness and communication. So that's just the way he operates. And it's, it's with every single player, not just, you know, a handful of guys, every single staff member. He, you know, he has that connection with. And the other, the other part is, is he always has— there's this thing with lemons. He always has a bowl of lemons on his, on his desk. I think that's part of that, you know, that, that what, what you're talking about, you know, he feels like that, that brings kind of a good, a good vibe to the, to the room and good energy. But he's all about energy. He's all about projecting energy, good energy in all moments because he does feel that that is the best way to move forward and the best way to get the best out of everybody.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's the best.

Tim, we can be honest with each other here. The hydration breaks. Come on.

Yeah.

Are you—

you guys don't like them?

No, I mean, I'm fine with— listen, we're American sports fans. Quarters make sense to us. I do think it's crazy they keep the clock running. Like, just stop the clock and we're not playing. Like, it's nuts.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, it's, you know, people, the purists are probably, you know, rolling over saying, you know, what are we doing here? What is this? And everybody says, oh, it's good. 'You know, it's the US.' Well, no, this is a FIFA thing, right? It's, it's also, it's hot in some places and not in others. I get that. But for competition fairness, you got to give it, you know, every game has to have the same, the same rules. So it's funny you say about the clock stopping though. Yeah. It is interesting that you say this because that is another conversation that the players, you know, ourselves had it, I think dinner the other night was like, why can't we just stop the clock?

Right.

In that moment. What is it going to change by stopping it, you know, for the 3 minutes and them keeping track of the time? I'm with you on that one. I don't understand that.

Yeah.

But I mean, here we are, right? We're just out there kicking a ball, running around and sweating our tails off to get a ball in the back of the net.

Yeah.

And listen, like, I get it for, you know, injuries and stuff like that. You know, it's kind of weird if you had to stop stop the clock every time someone goes down. But it's when guys are literally standing on the sideline and we go to commercial break. How, how hydrated are you getting during the hydration breaks? Are you really taking them seriously?

Oh yeah, you have to.

Okay, good.

For sure. Yeah, seriously. Huh?

Orange slices? Oreos?

Anything like that? There's the gel packs and, and, you know, carb, carb packs. And yeah, there's, there's a bunch of different stuff that they— but no orange slices. I've not seen orange slices yet, but I again, that's, that's just in our little huddle. We— but I'm with you. You know why? You go to commercial break and that's also another point of contention. Yeah, I get that. But and you, you leave it whatever it is, 22:30 and you come back and all the, you know, fans and people are looking at the TV saying, wait, where did those 3 minutes go? Now it's 25:30. Like, what are we doing here?

Yeah.

So yeah, I'm, I feel you on that one. Just, just stop the clock. It's a pretty simple solution.

Yeah. Have you thought about putting your fours up? I've been putting my fours up during the hydration break in the second half, letting people know fourth quarter starts now. Yeah, of course. Dig deep.

Yeah, I haven't yet. No, that's actually— that might, it might be a good one. Maybe I'll, I'll tell the, I'll tell the boys after, uh, yes, you know, during this next game when we, when we step out after the, the hydration break, everyone just walk out with, you know, their hands up in the air with the four.

Put your fours up.

That's a good shout.

Yeah, remind everybody this is the last that you got to give. Yeah, a little headline grab on my part here. I'll say it if you don't want to say it, but fuck you, Tim Howard. Why did you have to say that we can't win the World Cup? Why did you have to say it was impossible? Like, I feel like he could at least be like, yeah, it's going to be very challenging. Every game is going to be really tough. We're going to have to play some of the best teams in the world. But like hearing him say that on his podcast, it's like, hey, shut the fuck up, man. Just like, let the vibes just marinate for a little bit.

I mean, yeah, it's tough to hear from a former player when, you know, they come out with things like that. I also know that, you know, they're, you know, they have a platform, right? And they have, you know, they have a certain way of doing things and reaching out to their, you know, their fans. You know, it would have been great to hear them say exactly what you're saying. But at the end of the day, guess what? We're in the changing room. We're on the field. We're the one who, you know, the team who's who's believing in ourselves. And at the end of the day, we want, we want the fans and everybody to believe with us, right? That's a big thing. Believe with us. Come, you know, join us on this, on this ride because it's, it's fun. It's exciting. It's entertaining. After 2 games, look, look what we've, you know, what we've accomplished and we're not even near where we want to be. So, you know what, what people are saying, You know, it's just that. It's just that, you know, and we understand that. But we believe the players believe and you can see it every single day that we— it doesn't matter what anybody's going to tell us.

We're going to— we're going to go out and we're going to keep believing. And hopefully everybody else believes in us too.

How fun is it just being together? Because you guys are, you know, for this extended period, you guys are all kind of, I assume, staying together in the same place and training. Is it, is it like a borderline like summer camp? I know it's obviously more serious than that, but you are kind of hanging out all the time.

That's a great way to put it. Honestly, it's a great way to put it. It's imagine, you know, 20, you know, 26 of, or I guess yourself and 25 of your boys going on, on a, a giant sleepaway camp or a big, you know, guys' vacation. Yeah. Now, granted, we are working. It's not a vacation, but yeah, I mean, you wake up and you see everybody. You sit outside where, you know, we're right on the water. You know, we have our players' lounge. We have our, you know, our studio here where we can hang out and guys are playing video games. We're, you know, we're watching all the games together. We're sitting, we're having coffees. We're, you know, we're watching the, you know, the waves crashing. I mean, it is— it's amazing.

It's right.

And it goes back to that togetherness, right?

Yeah.

You're constantly, you're constantly together and you're just, you're creating memories and creating stories that you're going to be able to tell and share, you know, for, for years and years and years to come. So it's, it's a, it's a unique, you know, a unique setting, but it's one that we're really, really enjoying.

It sounds like that moment when anyone's been, you know, on a bachelor party and everyone looks around being like, what if we just bought a house together, just all of us, and just said, hey, we're not going back to our families, which that's a fleeting moment, but it happens.

There may have been, yeah, a few conversations of not houses, but there was a golf cart the other day. A couple of guys were like, maybe we just buy that and put it on the back at the back of the hotel. Yeah. And can someone ship that back to, to, you know, my house when we're, when we're done? So there is a little bit of that. It's, it's almost, it's almost like like, okay, well, we're all together, let's do something silly and, and, you know, have a, have a, you know, story to tell.

All right, so off that question, I know you guys play, so it's maybe a little different, but from a fan's perspective, do you guys have the Ronaldo versus Messi debate?

Um, I wouldn't say there's a debate. I, I think we all watch those games pretty closely, um, and everybody has their, has their own, you know, their own opinion and their own favorite. If you're going to ask me what, what camp I'm in, I'm, I'm camp Messi. Fine. Like, correct. Yeah, I've always been, I've always been that way. That's not to take away from, from what Ronaldo's done. I just think, you know, you know, Messi is, is such a special player to, to watch and, you know, follow. So there's not really a debate, but there are guys who will say, oh yeah, no, I'm, I'm this side. And then there's guys who are, oh no, I'm on the other side of the fence. But we've, we've talked about it so much over the years that everybody knows where everybody stands. So we all just watch with bated breath and are like, okay, what's, what's going to happen today?

Yeah.

Is there a type of person that's more likely to be a Messi guy? Like, can you spot a Ronaldo guy from across the room and be like, oh, yeah, that's Ronaldo?

No, honestly, you can't. You really can't. I think, you know, everybody's— everybody doesn't— they don't carry themselves a certain way that you say, okay, yeah, that makes sense. I wouldn't say like I've walked into, into this group, you know, or anybody's come into the group and I've thought, yeah, I know who you— what side you're on. It's definitely harder to tell with, with other professional athletes, that's for sure.

Can you, can you settle a debate? Because I was talking to our colleague here, Jeff Delo, the other day about if the team has a goal song like in hockey, you score a goal and they play it over the loudspeaker. Do you guys have a goal song?

We—

so us as players, we don't have a goal song, but I believe when we score, U.S. Soccer decided that— is it Freebird?

Good. Yeah.

Freebird. Yeah. When we— so when we score in the stadiums, they throw Freebird on immediately after.

Okay. I love that. That's a great choice. We were just— we were wondering because we were watching the games, I guess it's a testament to Seattle, but it was so loud after they announced the goals.— or on the VAR when they announced goal, that you could not— you couldn't hear what they were playing through the speakers. How cool was that to be playing in front of a crowd that was like that intense?

Incredible. I think I saw afterwards that it registered a 3.3 on the earthquake scale or some crazy thing like that.

It's—

it makes the game so much more special when you have, you know, a crowd that is pro, pro-US, right? And we've not had that in, you know, a lot of instances over, over many, many years. And not to see and feel that, you know, it's, it just makes the game, you know, that much more enjoyable, right? Because you have this, again, I keep saying connection. You have this connection with the fans that are in the seats, but then the connection with the fans who are all across the country and celebrating each and every single play, every single goal. So it makes it, it makes it so unique. And it, it gives you that, we'll call it proverbial 12th man. And we feel that as players, we feel that even going out for the warmups. Right. And it starts long before, you know, long before we score a goal. And, you know, we want that to continue because it is— there's nothing more special than playing in front of a pro US crowd. I'll tell you that right now. There's, there's nothing that gets you, gets you going more than having that, you know, behind you from, from minute 1 to minute 90 plus.

Okay. I just got a text that your bus is about to arrive, so we got to wrap this up. This has been awesome. Last question, Rohback question. Rohback.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Rohback.com promo code take. Thank you so much for joining us, Tim, because it's been a lot of fun and we love watching you play. We usually have Zach do our last question, but I'm actually going to change it up here. We have a guy in our booth, Hank, who is rooting against the US. He's from America. He is rooting against you guys. He hates soccer. Can you just tell him, you know, like how stupid he is?

None of that's true, by the way.

Good question.

Yeah, good question, Hank.

None of that's true. I think I saw yesterday's episode. Yeah, honestly. Like, whatever. Yeah, you don't want to be a part of it. You don't want to be a part of it, don't be a part of it. I'm not gonna beg you. I'm not gonna beg you to be a part of it. Like, whether it's true or not, like, everybody has their own thing, right? Um, I'll tell you what though. I'll tell you what though. You're, you're missing out. So, yep. But it's not, it's not hurting my feelings. You're, you're the one, you're the one who's gonna miss out on all the fun.

So we don't even think about you, Hank.

Respect.

Yeah, respect. I love that. That's a great answer, Tim.

Do whatever you want. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't make a difference.

And he is rooting against us. He, he's 100% rooting against us, so we all know that's true. Tim, you're the best, man. Uh, good luck rest of the tournament. We'll be watching. Thank you so much for joining us, and let's keep the vibes going, uh, high.

Awesome, guys. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

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Okay, let's wrap up the show. We got guys on Chicks.

Hank. Hey boys.

We don't care about you, Hank. That's what Tim Ream told us.

Hey Hank, my husband and I lost weight for our wedding recently, and now I'm wondering what a reasonable timeline is to let ourselves go back to our usual shape. Summer just started, and now I want to enjoy food, which I haven't done for a while. My husband will probably get into big cat shape when I get pregnant, but I don't want his tits any bigger than mine. What should I do? Thanks.

Sounds like you got small tits. Work on that.

You could also just— if you get pregnant, then you can put on all the weight that you want.

It is kind of funny, like, that people just go to the ends of the earth to look so hot on their wedding day, and then they put those pictures in their house for the rest of their lives, basically saying, if I tried, this is what I would look like. It's just a reminder, like, yeah, I could do this, but I'd not. Yeah, maybe The move is get fat for your wedding day and then lose weight after. And everyone sees you on your wedding day, on the wedding day pictures. They're like, oh shit, you look awesome now.

It's that. Yeah.

Wouldn't that be better?

Have the pictures up. It's funny that like a woman will get— she'll get married at her like smallest weight and then she'll keep the dress.

Yeah.

Like, like it's an old military uniform. Like, look at— look how good I used to be.

Yeah.

Look how in shape I used to be back in the day.

Look gross for your wedding day and then everything else is easy street. Max, how are you? What's your plan?

I've lost a little bit of weight.

You look good.

Yeah, I think I haven't gone full I'm going to starve myself for my wedding, but I feel good. I feel good going into wedding day.

What's the plan though? So your wedding, you're going away for your wedding like a week in advance, and I would imagine there will be some beers and other things. Is there like, hey, like almost like a UFC fighter, you're going to cut weight? 24 hours before?

No, I'm probably just— no, it's gonna be bad going.

So you basically lost the weight that you are gonna gain back before your wedding?

Yeah, I'm gonna be there for 6 days before I do the pictures.

Yeah.

And I'm gonna be— I'm gonna be drinking the frozen drinks.

I gotta—

I gotta not do the frozen drinks.

So good.

It's like the best part.

A lot of sugar in there.

Oh, so much sugar, dude. I remember at your bachelor party the— that Saturday, I just switched to frozen drinks. I was doing strawberry daiquiris. I did like 5 of them and I just felt so—

Yeah, it's great. There's nothing like being in like very warm climate looking out at the water and drinking a frozen drink is like the best feeling in the world.

Yeah.

So yeah, the one good thing is you can— I can always just be like, yeah, I'm just going to eat fish up like, oh yeah, fish is healthy and it's—

and it's fish.

It's fresh fish.

Yeah.

And well, not fish.

Fish and chips.

You're probably gonna be walking a lot too. No, you're not gonna be putting—

walk on the beach, do a little training.

It's not like a city. It's not like a city. It's not like you walk from place to place.

No, but I mean, you're gonna be walking around.

You're gonna be walking around the beach and like around the resort. Yeah, yeah.

You should have to swim to your wedding. That'd be good. Swim 50 miles.

What?

Uh, it's more than that. But Max, um, I want to say right now, I think you look great. I think you look powerful. That's the difference. You're not— you're no longer fat. You look powerful.

Yeah. Yeah. I've been working out a lot more.

Yeah.

And I've lost— like, I've lost like 15, £15.

That's awesome.

£15.

And you're just— you're just a strong guy. That's the thing is like some, some people are like, oh yeah, you got to lose weight. Listen, some of us are just strong guys. I'm not, but Max is. He's a strong guy. This is nice. As this show's ever been to me. Yeah.

Hell yeah.

It's a true Bruto, like, you know, like some guy walks around like £130, like, hey buddy, I get it. Like, you can eat anything and your metabolism will do it. Guess what you don't have? The strength of Max.

Facts. Correct.

Okay.

Oh yeah.

Feels good.

Hey, Daddy Cat, pro football commenter and Pouty Hank. Question: my husband laughs at his farts all the time. Yeah, but when I fart, it's considered gross. Yeah, when he does it, it's hilarious.

Correct.

Even though they smell terrible and are the most off-putting smells and sounds I've ever experienced. My friends and family get grossed out, except for my brother and dad, who also think all farts are hilarious. Is this just a guy thing? Why can't girls' farts be funny too?

Yeah, just— it's just one of those things. I've never heard a more accurate description of why farts are funny. That's perfect. I don't I don't know.

You could just take the word fart out of that too.

What do you mean?

Why can't girls be funny?

Oh, I was going to say that, like, I was joking when— yeah, it would be funny if girls were farting and then other girls were laughing at girls' farts. But I don't think that girls laugh at girls' farts. I don't think this is just men not laughing at girls' farts. I think just across the board, most women hear another woman fart and it's not nearly as funny as like when, um, when, when a male does it during an interview with an NFL head coach, everyone thinks that's funny.

Look, listen, men take dumps.

I got roasted for that. I got punched in the face the other day for farting.

Yeah, true.

You guys are fake.

Men take dumps.

There's a slap to the back of that.

It was $500. Yeah, men take dumps, okay? That's what we do. So women, no. Yeah, it is, it is, it is probably, uh, wrong of us to have that double standard because it does exist everywhere where it's like gross. How could you fart? Meanwhile, yeah, ripping all the time.

Mm-hmm.

Except for when I'm interviewing head coaches, then I can actually have body control.

My now husband was well off before we got married, and he always had a large shoe collection, including basketball shoes.

I like your fit today.

Thanks. Yeah, I was running late.

I actually don't like—

you're like, like Marine Desert Storm fit.

Yeah, I was running late. I kind of threw it on. I would have changed, but I was like, fuck it, I kind of have to go.

So are you a hunter?

I'm a hunter.

I'm like, I think that's like Realtree. Like, you look like you should be in a deer stand somewhere.

Fuck yeah.

Oh, you were hunting here. You were hunting for a buck earlier today and you didn't get him.

Oh, not true.

That happened last night. You were asleep.

Probably why.

Go ahead.

Sorry, guys are both asleep.

I 100%— I had something called Wake Up Barstool that I had to wake up at 5:00 AM. So yes, sorry, Hank, I went to bed at 11:00 PM.

It's okay. Okay. PFT.

Yeah.

What's your reason?

What are you, the bedtime police now?

Sports never sleep.

Yeah, I fell asleep last night because I'm a 41-year-old man.

You're just a little boy.

No, I actually had great— I mean, I probably were—

you probably were staying up with your flashlight under your fucking pillow.

I had great— I had just great, like, what do you call it? ESP. Yeah, I just knew. Like, I put my phone on, put my alarm on, do not disturb, and I was just like, I checked my phone.

Maybe you wouldn't have been running late and didn't steal valor today with your getup if you had gotten a good amount of sleep.

True. Uh, my now husband was— well, whatever. Uh, he rarely wore— already—

what?

No, no, read that part.

Read it again.

My husband was well off before we got married. He always had a large shoe collection including basketball shoes, but he rarely wore many of them due to wanting to preserve them. I finished school now to have my own independent wealth. I like designer heels and related, so I too have gathered a lot, but he refuses to allow space in the closet because he can't ruin their vibe. And my shoes are impractical. Would it be wrong for me to challenge him to a game of horse? He wears one of his preserve shoes, I'll wear one of my impractical heels. Winner stops complaining.

I like this.

I don't think that'd be absurd at all.

I also—

If you can beat him in horse, go for it.

I went through a little shoe phase. Listen, shoes are meant to be worn. Getting shoes and just having them and just being like, I'm never gonna wear them, is so ridiculous. Ridiculous. I had that for a little bit of time. And I looked one day and I was like, I haven't worn any of these shoes. Why do I have them? And then I cleaned out and it's like, just get the shoes that are meant to be worn.

I have a lot of shoes. I have no problem wearing the nicer ones. I just have so many that— but I can't get rid of them. That's where I like—

I can—

that's the problem.

I just— I like— I like them.

Like, I can get rid of clothes.

I can get rid of clothes.

Is that like art for you?

No, it's just like, I don't— something happens when it's like, I got to get rid of some of these shoes. But I just can't. I don't know. So that's a little bit about me.

I think that it's, it's completely fine if you want to challenge him to horse. I doubt that he'll accept the challenge because he probably doesn't want to lose.

Yeah, he's probably scared as fuck. Also, like, what? How is this even a question?

You like— if you guys have independent wealth, just get another closet, right?

Space. You put your shoes somewhere.

Don't be complaining about independent wealth and being like, we have no closet space.

Yeah. That makes no sense.

That's broke people shit.

Yeah, that is. I'm starting to think the first part of this email was wrong.

Yeah. Uh, my husband and I— last one— my husband and I were with 3 other couples when somebody asked the guys what the male equivalent is of coming home to flowers. Some guys said their wife getting them ice cream, and others said things like all the laundry being folded.

No.

My husband then interjected and said the answer is obviously a blowjob. The other husbands disagreed, and they said they would rather have the other things. My husband then told each of their wives that their husbands were lying to them and they were too afraid to say they just want a BJ every once in a while. My husband said he would also accept me bouncing on it crazy style. My question is, is my husband just way too horny, or all of the guy friends lying?

I, I think your husband might be the world's only truth teller, because it sounds like the other guys were like, I'd rather have, uh, all my laundry folded than get a blowjob.

But this isn't— that's not— I don't think flowers and blowjob are the same. It's not coming home to fresh-baked chocolate chip cookies. That's the one. That's who— when that happens, it's like you hit the lottery. That would be my version of flowers. Does that feel fair?

Because it smells good?

No, just like, yeah, it's just like it's there and it's sitting on the kitchen table. Like, it's very, it's very apples to apples as flowers. Yeah, like you thought they thought about you. That's the thing with flowers. Like, you're really just saying, I thought about you. Coming home to a blowjob is like, that's That's eating pussy. You got to do that. That's, that's where that is.

I think it's like the chocolate chip cookie is not a bad one. A nice dinner that, that you particularly like that isn't one of her favorites would be another. Or just a hat. I sometimes I like coming home and be like, hey, I saw this hat, thought about you. Boom. New hat.

The meanest thing I come home.

It's just like, yeah, same thing.

Like I thought about a hat.

You don't like it. You guys don't like getting hats.

I got so many hats.

You have too many hats. I've like, I do have so many hats.

About 10,000.

Yeah.

The meanest thing that I have to deal with is that when my wife cooks chocolate chip cookies, but they're for someone else, they're for like a bake sale at the school, and then I'm not allowed to have them. And then I still sneak and eat like a bunch of them. She actually has gotten smarter. She just, she makes a side batch. So she keeps the main batch away from me. And she just like, she has me focus on the side batch. The side batch will have like 5 and I'll just dust them all. So chocolate chip cookies will be my pick. Brownies, even.

Hat.

Hat.

Hat is a terrible answer.

You guys don't like getting hats?

No, no, I don't. Like what?

How many hats you coming home to?

Yeah, what are you talking about?

Or just like a shirt or a hat.

Yeah, I like to pick out my own hats. I don't—

I don't know if I like it. It's the same thing. It's like, hey, saw this hat, thought about you.

I wish this was a Mount Rushmore. Great hat. Saw this, like, getting a hat.

Saw this hat, thought about you, thought you might like it. Isn't that nice?

Yeah, I don't— I, I can't— I don't think that's how all gifts are nice if you think about it. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like, I don't think that's ever happened.

Happened. I mean, that's, that's a you problem. I've gotten like hats galore.

I have too many hats. We're not trying to add more hats.

Yeah, I don't think that would ever happen because it's like, I have too many hats, right? They would never be like, you know what, he needs a hat.

Let me get him one of these hats. Just in case we run out, in case we like, the house burns down and we have no hats left. I gotta get one hat.

Just, just nice to know that they thought of you. I don't know when this became an anti-hat podcast.

That's not— that's not the argument.

That's okay, some guys like hats.

That's not the argument.

I'm a visor guy.

Yeah, that's not the argument.

If you want to give me a visor, I appreciate it.

Yeah, Big Cat's got a million hats and never has any chocolate chip cookies though. What do you mean? Like, I have chocolate chip cookies every day.

You do?

No, I'm saying you could say I don't— chocolate chip cookies.

Homemade chocolate chip cookies are not the same as hats in my house. I have 500 hats. Homemade chocolate chip cookies happen like once every 2 months.

I like that.

They're very different.

Not going to apologize.

P.T., I feel like you run into a lot of at-work hats already.

I do.

Yeah, we have— we are— we literally like— we're like Sideshow Bob stepping on a rake. You can't go 4 feet in this office without finding a hat. I have hats just everywhere. You do too. We all have.

I'm not denying that I have a lot of hats. I got—

Colton's wearing a cool hat.

Tuna. Yeah, that's a nice hat.

Really nice hat. Our numbers. It's quick, quick.

100, 50, 45, 18, 69, 7.

What do we get?

57.

57.

Fucking A.

All right, say your numbers 100.

27.

Colton says 69. Cool, now we got 65.

45.

14. 14. No 14s.

No 14s across the board.

No 14s. Miss any birthdays recently, PFC?

It sounds like I have.

No, I don't know.

No, I didn't miss any birthdays. Happy birthday to Bradley Chubb, to Lamar Houston, to JJ Redick, Will Compton's favorite coach. Happy birthday to the GOAT, Messi. Happy birthday, Messi. Happy birthday, uh, on Thursday to Mark Titus. Oh nice, shout out Titus. Happy birthday to Matt Schaub.

Lamar Houston was still one of the dumbest injuries of all time.

And La La Anthony, happy birthday to you too. Also Thursday, happy birthday to Kevin White.

Oh nice.

And Del Curry. And to Kimbe Mutombo.

Lamar Houston tearing his ACL doing a sack dance when The Bears were down like 40.

Yep. Also, happy birthday to Mo'Ne Davis, Little League World Series champion, absolute all-star champion, one of the greatest pitchers that I remember. Great to take the bump. Awesome player, world champion.

And Mo'Ne hates on her. What a great story.

Actually, I wouldn't mind one of the— one of her hats from the Little League World— like that team she was on.

Tiny Little League.

What was it? That's a tiny, tiny— I would love a tiny Little League hat. That'd be a happy— that'd be a nice treat.

Fact check that.

All right, love you guys.

I was right.

What?

World champion.