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Welcome to Part of My Take, presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, June 15th, and the New York Knicks are NBA champions. Congrats Memes, Zach. They were in San Antonio on Saturday night. We're going to talk about all of that. The New York Knicks though complete an incredible, incredible run. Uh, they lost 3 total games in these playoffs, 2 of them by 1 point to the Atlanta Hawks, 1 by 4 points to San Antonio Spurs. Jalen Brunson, the NBA Finals MVP, much deserved. A team that was just gritty, awesome, big moment after big moment, down all the time, heart of a champion. And they— I mean, incredible performance. Like, they just— that was a, that was a thrilling 5-game series, but also kind of never a doubt because the Knicks were just better and tougher in the big moments, and the Spurs didn't have that.

Yeah, I mean, the crazy part about this series was the comebacks in every single game that the Knicks won. Uh, this was from the ESPN Analytics. So the Spurs had a 91% chance of winning Game 1 midway through the third quarter. They're up 13 points. They had a 72% chance of winning Game 2, up 2 points with a minute left in the fourth. They had a 99.6% chance of winning Game 4, up 20 points with 9:33 left in the fourth. And then a 95.4% chance of winning Game 5 up 10 points with 7:54 left in the fourth. And the weird thing was, in, in this last game, when the Knicks went down— they were down, uh, 15 early— it really did feel like the Knicks had them where they wanted them. Yeah, I know it's cliché to say that, but as I was watching, I was like, oh, this is, this is playing out perfectly for the Knicks. And it's a testament just how gritty they are, how well coached they are. They've got a special team. And goddamn if that wasn't the best offensive rebound I've ever seen Mitchell Robinson on that free throw.

It was just manhandling Wimby. Wimby's going to come back next year. Hey, Wimby, don't, don't go to a monastery. Maybe this offseason just go hang out at like a Golden Corral. Yeah. Put on like 60 pounds because Mitchell Robinson just ate him up. He ran out of gas and just wanted it more.

I want to talk about the Spurs, but we got it. We got to give the Knicks all their flowers and talk to you guys about what Saturday night was like in San Antonio. But Jalen Brunson. In, in the, in the closeout game to score almost half of the points for the New York Knicks. He had 45. That one possession where he broke Wemby down and got to the rim, and it just— that was the difference. I, I know that the Knicks as a team, like, I think KAT broke the plus-minus record in a playoff run. OG, you know, the tip-in. Mikael Bridges, Josh Hart, never seen a rebound he didn't think he could get. The whole team was incredible. But Jalen Brunson, as like the closer guy who when, when shit gets tough, you just know he's going to be able to get to the basket. You know he's gonna be able to make plays. Complete ice in his veins.

He's a winner.

He won a, a high school championship. He won a college championship. He won an NBA title. He's a winner through and through. And, uh, yeah, he deserves it. And hey, listen, I, I was, I was definitely in the camp of like having a small guard, it's, it's going to be tough to win a title. They— the Knicks deserve all the credit in terms of their roster construction, putting just incredible wings around Jalen Brunson and being like, hey, we can play team defense. And then when Jalen Brunson needs to be the clutch, the, the most clutch player, the best player in the world in the fourth quarter, he can do it. I think he broke the record for most fourth quarter points in a playoff run. I think it was I think he's 1, AI is 2 in that Finals run, and then MJ is 3. And people were saying, like, in terms of road closeout games, this is like '98 Jordan. Like, like having, you know, when Pippen's hurt and like having to score more than half of your team's points and having to basically be your entire offense. He was that good. He deserves all the credit in the world.

It's an incredible story. And he's, uh, I, I, I have this question because I haven't seen anyone talk about this or ask this question. Is he the best Knick of all time?

Oh yeah, I don't think anyone's broken that.

I don't think anyone's actually asked that question, so let us be the first to ask it. I think he's the best.

He's the best little Knick of all time.

He— the, the, the tired wired, uh, debate is tired. Is Jalen Brunson the best Knick of all time? Wired is Jalen Brunson the best free agent of all time?

I would actually take it one step further. I'd say is Jalen Brunson the best New Yorker of all time?

Did you see— did you see the meme that Stu Feiner sent me this weekend? I think he sent it to everyone. I don't know if you guys got this.

I tweeted it out and then I saw you tweeted out right after me because it was so funny that he just sent us the— with the cropped meme with the volume, the volume up.

It's the New York City's six families: Gambino, Genovese, Bonanno, Lucchese, Colombo, and Brancini. Yeah, that's it. He's the six family in New York.

I think, you know, they're all— all the statue talk is going on right now. We're jumping to the statue. Do we want the Jalen Brunson statue? Do we want the entire starting five statue? Who do we want on the statue? My idea was New York should just make a giant Jalen Brunson jersey. Like, I'm talking 200 feet.

You're talking about number 11 and put it on the Statue of Liberty. I like that.

Hang it from her. I like that. And then replace the torch with the basketball.

Yeah. Yeah, I like that a lot. It's, it's just crazy. I mean, then you were saying it with the analytics stuff, but it's as simple as the Knicks had the number 1, 3, and 5th biggest comeback wins in NBA Finals history. Yeah, in this Finals, 1, 3, and 5 in one single Finals. It's— it was cool to see New York just go crazy.

Uh, and to your point about KAT, he's the first center in the history of the NBA that shot 40%— or sorry, 50% 40% and 90% for the shooting splits in an entire championship run.

He was awesome.

I mean, I know he got fouled— he, he was in foul trouble the last 2 games, but it doesn't really matter.

The—

you can point to the Knicks playoff run and when they basically pivoted to Cat running offense through him, having him be a distributor, and like them taking off. And I— yeah, the Hawks were their last serious, you know That was the last serious sweat. They were down 2-1 to the Atlanta Hawks. CJ McCollum might be the second best player in the NBA.

It really is. It is one of the funnest championship teams I can remember watching since like the Detroit Pistons in terms of just like everybody buying in.

Yeah.

And you've got, you've got obviously your stars. Josh Hart, incredible gritty performance. Mitch Robinson, incredible, incredible gritty performance. Grand Theft Alvarado. Incredible gritty performance.

All of them. Landry Shamet. I know he got hurt at the end and he, you know, didn't have like the same. But there was that stretch where Landry Shamet was just the best shooter in the world. Did you see James Dolan had asked the team before to hold off on, on coming during the, during the playoff run?

Maybe that worked. Don't come. Yeah, don't come. Here's a crazy stat. The Spurs led for 72% of the finals. Think about that.

That's crazy.

The Spurs led for 72%. They lost 4 games to 1.

Yeah.

What was the quote? Wemby, I— again, we're going to get to the Spurs. I will defend Wemby a little bit on the quote where he said like, we dominate. What was the exact quote? Was it like, we dominated the most of the series or something? If you watch the clip and not— and don't just read the quote, that was— yeah, he said we absolutely dominated for most of the series. I, I have some criticism for Wemby coming. This actual quote is such a, uh, like such a big case of a guy's second language because you could see in the— his response, he was kind of struggling to figure out exactly how he wanted to say it. And his bigger point was not that they dominated and they should have won the series. He was like, we dominated for most of the series, yet we still lost. That's how bad we were in the other points. Yeah, which is true.

It's very—

they did dominate for most of the series, but their other points of the— like, the closing time was so atrocious that that's why you lost the series. I also— I know there's people who, uh, Hank, who will say that the Spurs are the biggest choke artists and that was like a choke. I— there definitely is something to be said for Jalen Brunson and this New York Knicks team The way they came back, not just in this series but in the Cavs series in last year. Memes taught us that they— the Celtics taught them how to, how to come back in games. Like, yes, is there a part of it that the Spurs are too young and they choke? Sure. The Knicks are also winners. Like, that's— I think that supersedes any choking, is that the Knicks are a team that is unflappable when the, when, when the minutes get crunched and you're in like these must-win, must-bucket situations. Like, those are— a team that has that DNA is gonna win, and that's what the Knicks have. And there was— I mean, there was definitely moments like the, the Wemby pass was a joke. The, the last night, or Saturday night, the— I think it was— I can't remember who it was.

Was it Steph Castle who Brunson missed the fadeaway on the, uh, on the baseline? Spurs basically had the rebound go off them and, and I think it was Castle whose foot was out of bounds. And Vassell. Yeah, Vassell. And his foot was out of bounds. Like, how are you fucking doing that? You finally got to stop. And that happens. There's also— those are choke moments.

There's also Wimby missing the free throws.

Yeah, he didn't want to be there.

Those are, those are choke moments for sure.

He was gassed. But yeah, this, this, this— Memes, we've gone too long without asking you. You are officially a winner.

Officially a winner. I just want to congratulate all the other Knicks fans out there.

Wow.

And especially the Met, Jet, Knick, Islander fans under the age of 40, you are finally a champion.

Okay.

Congrats to you.

There you go. Whoever you may be. Wait, Memes, that would include you.

That would include me. That was the first one. That's the first one I ever seen. And it was, it was so worth it. This was just the greatest run ever. And being at that game last night, just Jalen Brunson would just turn into Michael Jordan. Yeah. Every, every other person, on that floor was so bad.

You guys, it wasn't a terrible offense.

It wasn't a great game. Yeah, but yeah, Jalen Brunson, for him to do this and have this game in a closeout game in the NBA Finals, like, as if there was even a question where he would go down in terms of like New York Knick lore, like, that's what an awesome way to finish it out.

Also, the Knicks never, never faced elimination like that. That champion— if you're a champion and you never had to play an elimination game and you were 4-0 in closeout games. That's super impressive.

I guess we'll never know if he has the clutch gene. Yeah, because he never had his back against the wall.

Yeah. What are you thinking about, Mims?

No, that's a good point. We'll never know if he has a clutch gene.

Yeah. Jury's still out. Next year when they're in a Game 7, we'll find out.

It was the layup when they were— they cut the lead to 6. All the Knicks fans just turned around, looked at each other.

They said he's about to do it. When he broke Wemby down.

No, it was right before it. Yeah. Johnson had to use a timeout. Everyone just looked at each other and said, it's about to happen.

Yeah. So I want to hear about, about what you guys saw at the game. Like, walk me through it. When you get to San Antonio, what was the vibe like on the way to the game?

Well, can I, can I just interject real quick? I got some— I got— Stephen Shea was the third in this group, which is maybe my favorite trio. And I want you guys to tell us everything, but I just want to set the stage. That Stephen Shea did, I asked for a little bit of details from his perspective, and he said that, uh, as a group, maybe a little bit go towards the introvert, no alphas in the group, and that it was very difficult to make decisions at the beginning of the day because no one wanted to step on each other's toes. But he said that finally, uh, by Saturday night, they kind of figured it out. And had a good groove communication-wise.

I'll cut in there. We still never figured that part out.

I just love you guys.

So you guys all not wanting to make any decisions.

Everything we tried to do, Stephen Jay would suggest something. I'd be like, I'll do whatever you guys want to do. And then we'd look at Zach and be like, yeah, I'm in.

So you guys are just kind of floating.

There's a lot of conceding.

Everything took 15 minutes to figure out.

It's like whichever way most people are walking, we're just going to go there. Oh, wait, okay, start at the beginning though. So Zach, the outfit, the travel outfit that you packed.

Yes, sir.

The shorts.

Yeah, I didn't realize that was going to be such a point of contention on the shorts. I thought those were a good move for a plane. You know, you get the sweatpant material so you're comfortable and then they're not pants, so they're still breathable and we're going to like a warm climate. I thought it was like a good move.

They just look like big shorts. They looked like, like JNCO shorts.

They're definitely big shorts.

Yeah.

Zach, would you— because you guys had a 7 a.m. flight and there was, there was nervousness that you were going to maybe miss it because you responded to a text at 11:30 at night on Friday night. So everyone was like, oh, he's up too late. What did you eat at 6 a.m.?

Breakfast. I got an Uncrustable and a Lunchable.

Mm-hmm. That's good. That's good.

6 a.m. meal. The Dunkin' line was pretty long. I was like, let me see what you got going on over here.

Yeah, just double up on lunch early.

Delicious.

I like—

I think that's a—

no, I know.

I'm saying that's a great— that's a solid start to the day. I would enjoy a championship start to the day.

It was the ham. I do prefer the turkey. The turkey over the ham, but ham's still good.

So the fact that Che was so, so confident going into this game, I know you guys were probably a little bit more nervous than Che, at least originally being around him. Did you guys get more confident before the game?

I was already pretty confident we were going to— we were going to win. But he, he doesn't really talk like that normally. Like, he'll just— he'll do it on the act.

But yeah, he does.

He won't— he's not that confident when than just talking to him regularly.

No, he— and he— but he said he was like Nixon 5. He said that 2 weeks ago. And so he felt it. You bet it. He felt it. What, what happened on the plane? There was an alarm that went off that maybe scared some people.

Yeah, that was a mistake. I set a bunch for the— to wake up in a big day, waking up early. I've been trying to work on that. I've been doing— been doing okay with that. And I just had one down the list, you know, when you scroll and you set them all one way down the list, caught me, caught a hanger. I was talking about—

went too far down that list.

Yeah, I caught a hangar at the end. I was able to address it pretty quick.

A few hours too late.

So it was— it was so loud that one guy just screamed, we're going down.

That guy was being— I see where he's coming from. He didn't think we were really going down. He's joking. Yeah, it's my fault to put that kind of noise in his ears, but he just kept saying it afterwards and I was like, well, now we're doing— now we're doing Boy Who Cried Wolf on the plane.

Well, now he's the fourth—

now he's the jerk.

Yeah, he double jerked me.

Yeah, but Zach did turn it off pretty quickly and was just like, He was like, I would just like to apologize to everybody. So that was good.

Did they clap for you?

No. Plains are not someone to play around with. I don't take that lightly at all. I completely understand that.

So you guys land and you have a few hours before game time. You have— San Antonio is known for its Mexican food, great Mexican food. You land in San Antonio, you get a bunch of recommendations from the AWL, I assume. Where'd you end up? What Mexican joint did you guys end up eating at?

So we did— we're deciding between Mexican and barbecue. We decided to go to Mexican. We took 2 steps outside of our hotel and we went to Margaritaville.

Hell yeah.

Hell yeah. Respect the— yeah, Margaritaville is— listen, people laugh at it. Margaritaville is delicious. Jimmy Buffett never told a lie in his life, never did anything bad. As far as I'm concerned, the man was a saint. And the Margaritaville restaurants are no exception to that.

What'd you guys get? Chose right. What'd you guys get for entrees?

Stephen Che said they have the best nachos. They are pretty good. So you got those. I got the Cheeseburger in Paradise.

Smart.

Yep. And then I ran out like an appetizer trio.

Nice.

Nice.

What would you get on the Cheeseburger in Paradise?

Just bacon.

OK, lettuce, lettuce, tomato.

OK. All right. So then you go, you're going to the game. You got— I assume you get in the game early, like vibes or what was it? What was the percentage of Knicks fans? It did look like 50/50.

Well, we ate so much we had to nap first.

Oh, OK.

Listen. That's— NBA players do that. They nap before the game.

We had to. Then we did show up at like 6:00. We were sitting right next to the inside NBA. That was pretty cool. Stephen J kept trying to get selfies with Shaq.

That was very funny. Yeah.

Larry O'Brien. That was a lot of fun. But it was just a lot of— a lot of sitting around.

6 o'clock somewhere. That's what they say.

So a lot of sitting around. And then what were you going to say, Zach?

As soon as we got into the arena, it was— there was a Knicks chant going on. Yeah. The ratio was very— 10% away from a home game. 10% away.

10% away from home.

It was unreal.

Did you see any, any of the celebs there? You see Chalamet?

I saw Billy Baldwin after the game.

Oh, that's nice. Yeah, that's an A-lister.

I thought everybody knows Billy Baldwin.

Yeah.

You say hi.

Yeah, I was just standing next to him.

He wasn't— he wasn't courtside.

He was. But that was when— that's when I snuck down.

Oh, all right. So the game starts. I just told you that when they were down 15, I thought the Knicks like this is the perfect spot for them. Were you guys nervous when they went down?

When they were down 16, I was, I was nervous. I was like, all right, this is just going to be a loss. I genuinely thought that just because the bench had zero points, everybody was playing so bad. The offense looks so broken. It just, it just didn't look, didn't look right. And then they cut it to 5, and then that's when everyone was just like, all right, we've been in this spot a million times, right?

And at 5, you were like, we got this, we got this.

The guy next to us, also just— he was hammered and just kept saying, we got this, we've been in this position, we're down 5. We heard it, we heard it 1,000 times.

So, so you win. What, what, what's going on after? I mean, you guys stayed in the arena, I assume, for a while for the trophy presentation. It's got to be one of the coolest things to be able to see your team at a game lifting the trophy. You're a winner and you got to be there for it.

So I stayed up top and they went down. I just want to take it in. I was a little surprised there was no confetti. I thought there was gonna be confetti. No confetti. But it was just really cool. Everyone stormed down and it was just, it was just really cool.

Yeah.

And so were there tears? I cried. Zach, did you cry?

I did not cry.

No.

Yeah, they were, they were just smiling. I'm a crier. That's probably like the overload of estrogen. From the nipples, but yeah, yeah, I cried. What are you going to do?

No, fuck it, dude.

Absolutely no shame.

I saw the pictures of Zach and Che. Like, the smiles were as wide as you could possibly get.

It was an unreal feeling. Absolutely unreal. You know, once in a lifetime opportunity in the building like that. It was crazy.

Yeah.

They do the trophy presentation. They go to go off the MVP. Jalen's on the stage. They're bringing over the families and everything. So, like, you just see, like, the full scope of, like, what this moment really means to them. And, like, I don't know, just seeing it real time is super special, man.

Yeah.

I also just want to call out that You guys are dealing with all this. Maybe what, you know, might be the most magical sports night of your entire life. And Meebs still had the presence of mind, being the good friend that he is, to text happy birthday, Hank. Yeah, that was right, right in the middle of the celebration, which I thought was awesome.

Yeah.

You became a winner on Hank's birthday.

Well, I forgot to text him the morning of.

Yeah, right, right.

I just had to make sure before the day ended.

Yeah. And that was the best time because it was like Meebs has so many other things that he could be doing right now. He just won a championship.. And for you to think in that moment to text Hank and be thinking of somebody else. Hey, shout out Hank. I thought that was really nice.

Yeah. Hank, Hank's nice enough. He says happy birthday to me on my birthday, so I have to reciprocate that feeling.

Yeah.

All right.

So you guys leave the arena and you almost got mugged by a group of people with baseball bats.

No.

So it took us like an hour with the Savannah Bananas playing because Steven said that there was guys walking around with baseball bats. The Warriors.

There was a few guys who got beat up with bats.. And then the cops were kind of like, hey, if you guys go back up top, because there's like a Riverwalk and there's like an ele— like the street, the street level, you could hear that like the street level wasn't the safest spot. There's a lot going on. And at a certain point, these two guys walk past us like, yeah, the police are just saying if we go up there, there's nothing they can do to help you.

Like, so, so don't go up there.

Pretty much.

Zach is right. Spurs fans were just trying to get their get back from all the videos that were going viral.

Yeah.

But like, They— there was really like, if you're wearing a Knicks jersey, don't go street level.

Dude, I— Stephen told me that there was a moment where there was like a bunch of guys with baseball bats standing on a bridge and you guys— they were looking one way and you guys were able to run behind them the other way.

Yeah, it was essentially like a video game. We walked— there was like hundreds, if not thousands, of Spurs fans facing the one direction.

Yeah.

So we all looked at each other and said, if anybody makes eye contact with us, we're just going to run.

So we like snuck past like a video game, like in GoldenEye when the guards are like, look, don't wake Daddy.

Yeah, there was one drunk guy under the bridge and just goes, are you guys Knicks fans? And we're just like, nope, nope. And we just kept walking. All it would have taken was one person being like, hey, there's Knicks fans, and we would have just been sprinting down the river.

I love that. I love that. I love the video game. Like the analogy there that they're all locked in on something. So as long as you don't make a noise and then if they all come at you, there's a barrel. So just shoot that barrel. Yeah. Explode.

It sounds silly, but I almost feel like we had to tiptoe. It was like, wait, they can't look this way. Like, this can't really be what's going on right now. But we got— we got to just get past swiftly, quickly, and I guess stealthily.

And what's this I heard about memes? They threw a bottle and you got cut.

Yeah, we walked, we walked by a bar and it's a two-story bar. They saw we were wearing blue, said that we said we're Knicks fans. See something splash in the water and we're like, what the fuck was that? Then second bottle comes in, smashes on the ground, goes into my leg. I'm fine. It was a scratch, but—

Scarb.

Yeah, they threw like 3 or 4 bottles.

Damn. Man. And honestly, it was a good throw. Yeah, it was from distance.

Like, it was a pretty good shot.

Yeah.

At our feet. No eggs.

They were egging people. There was eggs. Like Spurs fans just had flags outside their car just honking and like throwing eggs at people.

Yeah, but nobody tried to throw eggs at you and be like, Henry Lockwood sends his regards.

No, no. Couple guys did say it, but then they weren't weaponized. They said it like, oh, you know, watch out for the eggs. And then no eggs, though.

They mentioned Hank by name.

One guy in the arena did, but he did it like he didn't do it as like foot soldier order. Like he wasn't on a— he— there was no world he had it in pocket. He was kind of saying it like lightheartedly, like, hey, right, you know?

Yeah, it would be a shame if you guys got egged.

Yes, that was a quote.

All right. So, I mean, sounds like an incredible night. The only other story I got from Che that I wanted to bring up was, well, Zach, you met a lady who wanted to go on a date with you this morning and you, you did, you ghosted her.

Well, I talked to her kind of like in passing, like we talked about, probably 3, 4 minutes, wasn't too long. We're maybe going to do brunch. I just stayed up way too late watching, watching highlights. So then we didn't go to brunch.

Okay.

And then the other one was Zach. There was an attractive lady in the lobby and Memes and Che were going up. And apparently Zach went up to talk to the attractive lady. And then from across the lobby, a guy yelled out, hey, that's my girl. And Zach just sprinted away.

I didn't sprint, but like, oh, sorry, scurried, scurried away. I probably did scurry. I probably did. Look, there was a lot of— tensions were high yesterday.

Hey, that's my girl.

Basketball gang war. I wasn't sure what was going on. Yeah, I was saying hello to this woman, like, hey, is there another bar around? We're trying to see if we go get some drinks because everything closed at 2. Which we weren't super aware of. And she's like, yeah, we could do this. Uh, we're trying— she's like, we're trying to figure out the same thing. I was like, okay. And then this guy that was already sitting with two women, like across, like what essentially I guess is like a breakfast— anyways, hotel always have last seating, like a breakfast little spot. He like shouts out like, hey, that's my girl. And he was already sitting with women. So I didn't think he was being serious. I thought maybe they were friends. And then he said it again and I just pivoted, walked to the elevators and he's like, I know you could hear me. And then I just instantly just started scanning the key.

Yeah.

And I went, I went to the, I went to the hotel room.

Oh, man.

I didn't confront him whatsoever. Yeah, I swiftly elevated.

And yeah, I mean, the whole, the whole night it was the Knicks. Listen, I know there's some people who don't like New York City. I don't know how you could hate this actual team. If you want to say something about the fans, that's fine. The team, like even, even Mike Brown doing the corny who let the dogs out was funny. Like, it made me laugh. It was, it was ridiculous. What are you going to say?

I got, I got to tell the Stephen Che Scott Foster story. Oh, OK. So we're leaving for the game. We see Scott Foster staying in our hotel. Stephen Che walks up to him to try to get a picture. Instead, just slaps him on the back and just says, go make New York proud.

Oh, Stephen is the freak who would like recognize Scott Foster just walking in street clothes.

Mm-hmm.

For sure. What a night.

What a great night.

Yeah.

Congrats. I'm so glad that you guys got that.

It really is. It's special that you guys were there.

Yeah, absolutely unbelievable. I can't say thank you to everyone involved enough. Unreal day.

Shout out to TickPick.

Big shout out to TickPick. Huge shout out to TickPick.

I'm indebted to TickPick and you guys for the rest of my life. Shout out to Sex Ritual.

Yeah. Yeah.

Especially for it to happen on 6/13.

I know. What's 6/13?

Hank's birthday.

That's right.

No, the day the Knicks won.

Oh, yeah. The day Memes became a winner. Memes, the only one who's officially checked off his his New Year's resolution.

Yeah.

First one. Yeah.

I think I kind of have a little bit on my— attempted. I've attempted.

You started poorly.

Poorly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hank, you haven't really said much. Yeah. I know. Usually you talk a lot in these episodes and, you know, you're a big basketball guy and I know you've got a lot of thoughts about the New York Knicks, New York sports in general, and your friends Zach and Memes. So what's going on in that head?

I'd like to start by saying They're trying to like hold it over my head that they won on my birthday. As a 30, now 33-year-old male, I don't care about my birthday. Like my birthday does not mean anything.

What about when it's your 40th birthday?

They won on my birthday. That hurts because it was like, I don't, I don't care. It was just another day.

It's not even your birthday anymore.

It's not exactly.

It's who cares.

Yeah.

Congrats to the Knicks. They were the better team or they won. They won the most games.

Oh.

Are you going Kenny Atkinson on Wemby?

Like, it was like, it, it was, you know, and like you said, second language. Like, it, it was the quote— reading the quote is like, that's such a loser thing to say, but it was so true. It was a 5-game series. The Spurs could have won all 5 games easily, and they lost 4-1.

So it's, it's the championship.

It's frustrating. It was frustrating to watch, but at least in Game 5, I knew I didn't even like get excited because it was— even though they were up in that fourth quarter, there was zero doubt in my mind that the Knicks were going to win that game. When we missed free throws, they, you know, Darren Fox was still just— he thought he was the guy again, taking terrible— like, not even terrible shots, they were just missing. They missed open shots, missing layups, zero clutch gene. And yeah, congrats to Memes and Zach and New York.

Wow. And I can tell that you don't care that was on your birthday because the first thing that you brought up was how you don't care.

Well, no, I just know that's the thing that you guys are trying to do.

We're not going to keep trying to bring up the fact that it's Memes Day, also your birthday.

Sure. Well, it was your birthday.

You don't even know when my birthday was.

And it doesn't matter. You don't have a birthday anymore. Right. So I'm never going to forget your birthday because it's actually just Memes Day.

That's fine.

Are you nervous that memes is now a winner and you're a loser? No, but if we're doing a what have you done for me lately scenario just this year, we're just talking 2026. You're a loser. Memes is a winner. Is that a statement of fact? You guys are losers too. I agree. No, no, listen. Fact. Fact. But you and Memes have a special rivalry, hatred for each other.

Yeah, I mean, Jason Tatum tore his Achilles. He came back. They still, they still made the playoffs. They, you know, it's, it's gonna be a fun end of the, end of the decade.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah, it sure will.

It's 1-1.

It's 1-1.

Yeah, I mean, I did think that Memes brought up a good point when he said that the Celtics kind of taught the Knicks how to become champions.

Yeah, I don't really understand like the, like what this has to do with me, what this has to do with the Celtics. The Knicks beat the Sixers and yet somehow it's like Mr. Bing Bong Jerry talks about me, memes talks about me. It's like, no, there's other rivals in this series.

Teams have to, you know, it takes experience in the NBA more so than other leagues, I think. And what they did against the Celtics last year, I do think had a direct impact on what they were able to do in the playoffs this year.

Yeah, good for them. They won. They won the NBA championship.

But you also said they kind of didn't. I didn't. Well, you're like, yeah, yeah, they didn't. They could easily lost all 5 of those games. That's not a fact or fiction. They weren't the best team.

Maybe it's also because you just kept on saying how much you hated it, like all this going down and were very— you're like, this is going to suck. I'm out on Wemby. I hate the Spurs. I can't believe they did this to me.

I didn't— I did not say I can't believe they did this to me.

Okay, well, all right, sorry that you didn't say exactly that. That may have been worse than the Ray Allen corner 3. I'm sick. You're sick?

Yeah, it was— it was a brutal series, but it's over, so let's golf.

You have to at least love Josh Hart.

I did love that.

That was an incredible—

I did love that quote.

Like, that was just you.

That was a hat tip. Yeah, yeah, nothing, nothing but respect for, for that quote.

Josh Hart just said he, after, or this morning he tweeted, he was like, now like the only thing left to do is golf. Hold on, I'm gonna get the exact one because it's just so, it's so perfect. Now we play golf, just got to figure out where to get a golf membership in New York. Eyeballs emoji.

Tough city to get a golf membership too.

I wonder if he's going to get copped in any courses.

I think he's going to be like here in Chicago. Obama has a locker at every single course. Yeah. Just so they can say like, yeah, if Obama shows up, he's, he's a member here. Technically, that's in New York. He's going to have a membership at every single course. Yeah. And like, yeah, all the Knicks, you have a free membership for life. I think that they're about to have like one of the best celebrations of all time being like college boys. You went to school together, you probably partied a lot, played a lot of beer pong back in the day to the celebration after winning an NBA championship together with your college buddies. Has got to be the drunkest week ever. Yeah, they're gonna have an absolute blast getting after it.

Yeah, and like, I know people will talk about there were some bad videos in the past 2 weeks with the Knicks fans. It's actually really funny to look back and be like, the Knicks lost 1 game of consequence and they all lost. Yeah, like, like they could not handle the losing Game 3. But, uh, in terms of overall, like, I saw so many videos that were heartwarming, awesome streets just alive in New York, people singing, chanting. Like, that's what happens 53 years. I saw a crazy stat. The, uh, the, the time between this championship, June 13th, uh, and the last championship, the Knicks winning in 1973, was a longer amount of time than the Knicks, uh, winning their first championship in 1970 and Babe Ruth's first game as a Yankee.

That's wild.

Yeah, it's a long time. 53 years. That's a full 2 generations. I don't even know how generations work, but yeah, yeah, it's a long time. It's a long-ass time.

And much like Hart had one request, Jalen Brunson's request was he wants to be on an episode of SVU.

Yeah.

Which is— that's an awesome request to have. Shout out you.

Also kind of weird energy by his dad to say that Patrick Ewing is still the best. That was kind of weird. I think he was just trying to get Jalen Brunson focused on next season.

Yeah. Just bust his balls a little bit.

Yeah.

Just get him, get him locked back in.

Yeah, it's not true. It's just objectively not true right now because Jalen Brunson won a title.

Title. Yeah, and he, and he did it in like— yeah, his— that, that free agency's free agent signing changed the course of the Knicks franchise. It really did. Like, he— and I know they had to do other pieces, and again, Leon Rose deserves so much credit because every piece that they did, every, every move they made along the way, they got chastised. Like the Karl-Anthony Towns, they got chastised for that. The Mikael Bridges Everyone's like, that's too many picks to give up. But they built a perfect team around Jalen Brunson and his strengths with elite guards, a stretch center in KAT, and, you know, an absolute dog in Josh Hart. And that's what you get, an unbelievable championship.

So much like we're having the debate on whether or not Jalen Brunson, greatest Knick of all time, which I look forward to hearing that for the next 6 months. Oh yeah. Does this also mean Nico Harrison, worst general manager of all time?

Oh yeah.

Cements him. Oh yeah, I think, I think for his legacy, it's got to— you got to be 1-1 now.

Was he, was he the GM when Brunson walked?

I don't know if he was, but there's Nico Harrison fights back about this and says it was Mark Cuban.

Got it. That's right.

That's what I would say too if I was Nico Harrison.

I knew there was a little something, but yeah, they, they had both those guys. Pretty insane to think about. And Jalen Brunson is just a winner. That's all he's done. I mean, is the Max, is the Villanova team, the 2016 to 2018, is that 3-year stretch the best college team of all time? Now they have an NBA title too.

I mean, it's the only— it's the only college basketball team to have 2 national championships and an NBA Finals, right?

And there was only—

and there was only 1 college basketball team to beat them in the tournament. That's pretty crazy. That's probably the best team of all time.

What team was that?

That was the 2017 Wisconsin Badgers. We don't count that year.

We don't.

It's crazy. Yeah, actually, I think it's—

I'll take my wins wherever I can get them, Max. With Jay Wright, like, we're the only ones who stopped them.

How come they didn't win 3? Sure, they just dominated the NBA. Yeah, they had the biggest margin of victory, I believe, in the history of the NBA playoffs. How come Jay Wright couldn't win 3 championships?

Badgers got in the way.

Yeah, Badgers.

Badgers got in the way.

And we signed Luigi this weekend.

Yeah, Mangione.

Everything's coming up.

Everything's coming up, Cats. Everything's up, baby.

Everything's coming up, Hank. So are you— I know this wasn't your favorite sporting event to watch. Are you going to— how long is it going to take you to get over this? Are you already over it? You already moved on because memes will be reminding you that he's a winner.

Yeah, I mean, it is what it is. It's probably till, you know, the season starts next year. Because then they can be like, that's the past is the past.

Is there a part of nothing you can say all summer deep down in places you don't want to talk about? Is there, is there a part of you that's like, what if everything's just flipped?

No.

Okay.

Like, how concerned would you be if like week 1 of football—

listen, you guys don't win shit, so you'll never ask.

I'm asking you a question. I got to ride on a duck boat.

I know, Hank, you're living in the past, okay?

For a championship, what if it's all flipped? Hank, it's that, it's can't take it away. Like, you can't take it away. Yeah, maybe. Who—

like, what if the Jets win the AFC East this year? Like, what if it just flipped?

I will be able to remember the, the 6 Super Bowls and the 3 Super Bowl after-parties I got to go to. Like, I will— I— no matter what, even if you had a good run, we never win anything, I will have memories that you can't take away from, right? So yeah, but you can't be scared. Like, that's, that's— I'm not scared. If it, if it happens, it happens. But like, I'm not worried. I'm not gonna be like, oh, I'm scared that Everything's flipped.

I was saying, well, no, there's only one way to find out. Deep down in places you don't want to talk about. No, like deep, deep down. Late night, you wake up at 2 in the morning to take a piss, and in the back of your head you're like, fuck, what if it flipped?

No, because—

have you thought about that?

What if I have thought about that?

What if it flipped?

Dude, living Hank's life would be sick.

What if it flipped? What if the whole thing flipped?

Well, I am a winner.

You are officially a winner.

Very much bona fide winner. Hank, what would you think if week 1 of the NFL season you woke up and the Jets win by 50 and then you lose to the Seahawks by 50.

At that point, we're talking dual 50 burgers.

Dual 50 burgers. Yeah.

If the dual 50 burgers.

Yeah.

I would be like, maybe there's a glitch in the matrix.

Okay. One more small point.

Because that would require the Jets to do a 50 burger.

One more small point of order. You did say that you do soggy sorrows.

Did I?

If the Knicks won.

When did I say that?

You said that you'd do soggy sorrows.

Do tell me when.

I don't remember. A few weeks ago.

Did he say he would?

I recall him saying—

Anyone else? I want to say yes, but I can't.

Why would I say that?

Because you're— that was because you didn't think the Knicks were going to win.

Duh.

I just don't remember saying that. Like, I—

if you— does anyone in the booth remember him saying it?

I don't— it doesn't make any sense for me. I think I can see you saying you'll do Sagi Sarris. I mean, like, that doesn't make any sense.

What memes? You just said somebody's got to say something.

I don't— I don't recall. I don't recall that being said.

What were you going to—

what was somebody's got to say something?

Somebody's got to back up PFT because I don't remember.

I don't remember.

I want to, but I really want to. I don't remember if he did or not.

I don't— I don't remember.

Yeah, I don't recall.

I'm going to say he did.

Okay.

You know what?

I'm going to say he did. I'm going to back up.

You know what? Hank doesn't have to do it.

Yeah, you know what he did?

No, you know what?

We—

it happened on his birthday.

We should give him a break. Was it like, hey, if the Knicks win it all, I'll do soggy sauce? Was it something like that?

Oh yeah, I do remember that.

That actually sounds like the quote.

Now that you say it, I don't remember the exact— yeah, yeah.

I think we were doing the podcast.

Yeah, yeah. He's like, oh, he did a face. Yeah, yeah, I'll do soggy sauce.

Yes.

Good call. He did.

You want me to go do sorry, sorry?

I want to know if you said it.

He did.

I don't think he's—

I don't think— I don't think he said it either. I was trying to just— I was trying to gaslight you into thinking maybe he did say it.

I'll do it.

Max, I didn't say that. You're making that part up.

What?

I didn't.

All right, let me do it.

Let me do an ad real quick.

Wait, wait, wait, wait. I do have a question for Hank, though, in all seriousness. In all seriousness, hey, is New York the team that's— that's the one that them winning a championship affects you deeply on a level that no other city, if they had won, would affect you on?

Oh, I think Cleveland was—

Cleveland was tough. Sixers would have been bad.

Sixers would have been worse.

Yeah, like, it—

it—

I don't think that this is as low as it can get.

You're acting like— I mean, Cleveland, I, I don't— I feel like— I mean, you guys were here, like, The city of Cleveland wanted to kill me in 2016.

Yeah, I did. I did.

I don't want to see any, like, any, any team from the East, but yeah, those specifically, the Knicks, Sixers, now the Wizards.

Yeah, well, that's right.

Why did the city of Cleveland want to kill you?

I just talked a lot of shit. You talked a lot of shit.

The entire run.

You talked a lot of shit. And just said it was a trash city and their fans are losers. So when they won, it was, it was, I got a, like, death, a lot of, a lot of mean things were said to me. Me. Uh, that was the beginning of this podcast, and I realized kind of the, the reach that we had because of the, the death threats and things that were being said to me off of what I thought were like offhanded comments about just like the city of Cleveland being a joke.

Yeah, a shithole.

Uh, do you still believe this?

Yeah, I mean, it was more LeBron. Like, that's again, like, that's where I was like, I was talking about LeBron, and then And also the city.

Yeah.

And then they— but the city still—

you still think— we're not realizing Hank would never have realized that he hates the city of Cleveland if it wasn't for LeBron.

I mean, Cleveland is a city. Like, it's, it's, it's, it's fine. I wouldn't, I wouldn't live there.

So I think it'd probably be Philly number one. Like Philly.

Yeah.

Yeah. If they won a— if the Sixers specifically win an NBA championship, you'd be down way worse than the Knicks, right?

Probably, probably equivalent. Like, I would be rooting hard for them against them every single game, and it would suck to watch them win.

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Okay. Yeah, I was just going to say the entire, like, the fundamentally sound New York Knicks hustling. Mm-hmm. Dads across America are probably like, hey, youngster. Yeah, this is how you play basketball.

Yeah. Short chubby guys, you can do it. Mark Cuban said Brunson was chubby draft war room. Okay, KAT. Nobody will remember his 2-point. 1-for-7 game. That's true.

I forgot it until just now.

Yep. Mikal Bridges, fuck them picks. Windy Windhorse has a quote: Winning a championship means you never have to apologize. That's, that's true. And then Scottie Barnes, Max, future Festus Lake. Scottie Barnes, Wemby, not for sure the future Festus Lake.

So could be Scottie Barnes.

Yeah. Losers: Monks.

Yeah, about time.

Tough, tough behavior from a monk.

About time we knocked those losers down a peg.

I think this one I actually— he— I put in his head, but Rutgers, because the fact they didn't make the tournament with Dylan Harper and Ace Bailey is still insane.

It is crazy.

Hospitality, people getting jumped, no handshake line, which we'll talk about in a second. And then this one, I completely agree with the New York Nets. They, they honestly should just move. That should be the Sonics. How do you— there is not a single kid in, in, in New York, greater, greater New York area area, the tri-state area, that is going to want to root for the Nets?

No, absolutely not.

How are they going— like, how, how are they going to sell season tickets?

No.

Who is buying those tickets?

No idea. Built a super team and got stopped by COVID twice.

They tried to be— they did it twice, remember, with Prokhorov. They got— they got KG and Paul Pierce.

Yeah, but they were so old.

I know, but they've done it. Like, they've done the all-in hear our guys twice, two times.

If it wasn't for that, for Kevin Durant's foot.

Yeah.

For just his little toe. Who knows what happens with that team?

I feel—

yeah, I feel awful for— imagine being a Nets fan, like living in Brooklyn last night. I saw—

yeah, I guarantee if you're a Nets fan living in Brooklyn, you probably just got swept up. Yeah. You probably were just like, you know what, I'm never going to win one.

Yeah. There was a video. There was a video from Fort Greene, which is like, like a half mile from, from where the Nets play. Yeah. Yeah. That's just going nuts.

Yeah, you just have— I mean, Frank, congratulations, Frank Fleming.

Oh man, I don't know what you do. You just, you have to— I think that I honestly think the league should look at making the Nets either the Vegas team or the Sonics.

Yeah, they tried. They tried to come into New York and they tried to take over or go back to New Jersey. It just— it last night was— it should be the last straw for that franchise.

I called them the New York Nets a second ago, the Brooklyn Nets.

Yeah, because nobody forgot about them. Nobody cares. Yeah, it's like insane.

Yeah, they can't even— they, they, they even know their own role. They're like, we're just asking for one bird.

Also, what a terrible name for a team too. Yeah, the Nets.

They got to go back to— they just got to go back.

They got to go back to Jersey.

Like Jersey, they at least—

they have—

that was the thing.

It's like the Devils fans, right? Like there's, there's, you know, they can at least get fans away from the Rangers and Islanders because like, hey, we live in Jersey, Jersey pride. You got to do it. Got to get back. The Spurs.

Let's talk about them.

Wemby. Tough, tough finals.

Oh, do you mean— do you mean victim Wembenyama?

Oh, yeah. That was going to be my who's back.

Skip Bayless.

Fucking still got it.

Great job, Skip.

We still got it.

Victim Wembenyama. Just when you think the guy might, you know, the game might have passed him by, he comes out there and just drops a bomb like that. It's perfect on Wemby. The way that he, he carried himself in the press conferences after the games.

The exact quote was, "Victim Wembenyama. The alien has a lot of earthling tendencies." Hmm. Yeah. Not a great— can I say not a great series for Wemby in terms of clutch moments, in terms of maybe pushing, shoving, flopping, whatever you want to say. There's one thing that I will push back on. I don't give a fuck about the handshake line when the other team is celebrating their title. I understand there's a difference. Like, he didn't actively— like, it wasn't a Pistons situation where he walked off while there was still time on the clock. I— if I just won the NBA title, I'm not going to look to shake the hands of the loser like that. One I had no problem with. They're celebrating. Yeah, like, yes, he should. You know what he should have done? He should have given credit to the Knicks in the postgame. I don't think he did that. But in terms of like stopping to try to find the guys as they're dogpiling on each other and having this moment, that's a little awkward. I don't really think that that's—

that's—

that one doesn't bother me that much.

Yeah.

Like interrupting the dogpile like you're a referee in football, right? Pulling guys off the pile. Right. I want to shake your hand.

Yeah.

I mean, obviously in hockey, it's the greatest tradition of sports.

That's facts.

The post-Stanley Cup handshake line doesn't get any sweeter than that. I think that Wimby is just a bad loser. Which is fine. And I don't mean it like necessarily as a knock against him because there's a lot of guys who are great competitors that are bad losers. And I think Wimby just might be one of those guys. He did say— I mean, we talked about one of the quotes where he was making it seem like maybe they were the better team, but he did say, I was not ready to win a ring. That's obvious. In terms of desire to do well, intensity and effort, we were at the good level. I was at a good level. But experience, it's mistakes. We don't lack talent. We don't lack ability. We just make too many mistakes and I make too many mistakes. He's right. Yeah, he's 100% right. I think that like it's going to get overblown because he did kind of sound like a jerk after a few of these games and he didn't have like any humility after losses in which he played a pretty big part of.

Yeah, no, he was bad.

Why they lost. He's definitely the reason why they were there.

Right.

But he's also the reason why they lost. And he did not really seem to take a whole lot of accountability after some losses. And so people are listening to him and they're turning on him, which I get. I just think he's a bad loser. I think he hates losing. And I think he's still going to be great and he's going to come back stronger and he's just going to be, you know, a force in the league for a long time. But this, this series, it didn't— it did him no favors.

It would have been better for him to lose to the Thunder.

Yeah.

Yes. And it would have been a clear— because, because we also found out for all the complaints about the Thunder, The Spurs play a very aggressive, handsy style of basketball as well. I think people were, were kind of sick of— Darren Fox was so, so abysmal. I don't even— like, he might have to just come out and say that he needs like some crazy surgery after this because— and, and the fact that he was just still in the games and shooting. And I know they tried to— they started playing Harper more. Steph Castle kind of faded at the end. I still feel highly on him. But like, overall, this is why you don't see teams in the NBA winning when they're just so young. Like, you have to lose before you win. That's just the history of the NBA. I know I've talked about it a million times, but the reason why I have is because it's the truth. You can't— there, there are few and far between. There's maybe a couple spots in NBA history where you can point to and be like, yeah, that team was just all young. Like, even Magic, people like, oh, Magic won his first year.

He had Kareem. Like, having a team that has not been through the wars, trying to figure out how to win these— like Wemby said it after, after the, uh, Western Conference Final, he celebrated a little too much— closing out games, having gas in the tank, learning how to like keep that energy at a, a good level. You saw Jalen Brunson. Jalen Brunson did not change his facial expression for 2 months. He was the same guy for 2 months straight. And that's what it takes to win a title. And the Knicks went through it and lost the last few years to get to this point where they knew what it took to get over on top of the mountain. So yeah, I don't— I think the Spurs, I think we all freak out. Like someone pointed out, and it was good, I can't remember, I'm sorry, someone tweeted it, but like the whole Mitch Johnson thing as well. Do you remember in 2011 it was, I believe, 2011?

Yeah.

Eric Spolstra was said to be like the worst coach ever when they— when, when, when the Heat lost to the Mavs in the Finals. And then what'd he do? He got better, and he, and he ended up being one of the best coaches in the NBA. I think Mitch Johnson had a bad series. I don't think Mitch Johnson's gonna have another bad series, you know what I mean? Like, he's going to learn and get better, just like Wemby, just like, uh, Harper, just like Castle, all these guys. Just maybe, maybe get someone who can be a backup center and give you meaningful minutes, because Luke Kornet, that was rough to watch. I don't think he's ever held on to a ball before. Um, but yeah, the Spurs are gonna be fine overall. This was—

they were too young. It is interesting that after the game you've got guys talking about Dylan Harper being upset with playing time, and you've got guys that are, that are talking about— like, it certainly seems like there were some efforts to possibly play Dylan Harper more, but then there was the understanding that that's really going to piss off Fox. Yeah. And then you're pretty much having to give up on Fox. Yeah. If you start to bench him, which— oh no. Which you should.

You might.

You might want to do that. Yeah. It might not be a bad thing to do.

You're trying to win an NBA title.

I think.

I think like Harper and Castle together are awesome.

Yeah.

They're really, really strong duo. And adding Wimby, getting stronger, hopefully a little bit fatter for another offseason. And the Spurs will be great. They'll be back.

Hank, you are officially out on Wemby. Choker. Can't win the big one. Done.

I mean, I think they're going to have to get— they're going to have to get a whole new look team. Like, they got to get rid of Fox, which is tough because of his contract.

Yeah, there's 3 guys in the NBA making more money than him next year. Jason Tatum, SGA, and Devin Booker. That's it.

Yeesh.

And I just don't like— I like— he played so bad.

And sorry, that's 29-30.

So they had demons. Like, the players on that team, young, yeah, they made it to the Finals, yeah. That game, they're going to be seeing ghosts. Like, that's going to haunt them. I, I, I— that's going to haunt them in the playoffs for years to come. I don't think everyone just assumes, you know, we talked on the show last year, oh, it's not how many titles the Thunder are going to win, it's, you know, are they going to be the greatest team of all time? They're not back. Everyone just assumes Wemby's going to be back. I think that performance in the finals is going to haunt him and them for more than people give it credit for.

Well, the Thunder— I mean, the Thunder, I think the injuries— I think the Thunder, if they were fully healthy, probably would have beaten the Spurs. And that might have stopped us from having this conversation about the Spurs, like, embarrassing themselves in the NBA Finals because they would have probably been taken down by a more veteran team, which that's what happened when they hit— when they played the Knicks. Um, I think they'll be fine though. I don't think that— I mean, it's a true test of what— if Wemby's going to be one of the all-time greats. Like, will this haunt him or will he just get better?

I think he's going to get better, and I think that the team's going to be— yeah, they're obviously going to make some changes. No team stays the same.

I mean, LeBron, remember LeBron got swept by the Spurs in his first Finals, and he was like, I have to be— I, I, I, I realized the levels to this and how much better He got a new team, new coach. True, true. Mitch Johnson stinks. But do you, do you remember—

did he blow 3 of the biggest leads in NBA Finals history?

3 of 5. I am not defending him in this series. He was horrific in this series. I'm just saying it would be smart for the Spurs to be like, hey, let's see if he can grow from this and not just be like, hey, the young team with the young coach, we got to change everything. I would run it back if I were the Spurs. Maybe not with De'Aaron Fox, but again, you don't know how to— how do you do that?

Yeah, I guess a lot— there's a lot that we don't know about what goes on behind the scenes, but I would— I think that they choked away, utterly choked away at least 3 games. Yeah, like completely blew it in terms of in-game management and also in terms of just brain farts in big moments, just like really, really stupid shit that you don't see out of smart teams that win.

But again, I go back to just the Knicks, the Knicks being in that position where they're— they capitalize on it. I give just as much credit to the Knicks as I like. I'm not going to say that the Spurs choked this series and they— part of winning is being good at the end of the games.

Yeah, I think that, yeah, there's 3 games that only the Spurs could have lost that also only the Knicks could have taken advantage of.

Right.

Right. It's like it was a big shot.

It was a perfect storm. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Any other last thoughts on the NBA Finals? Great season.

Memes.

Zach, you guys are winners.

Champions. Winner.

Win.

Winners. Now you're going to go back to back.

Sure.

I feel like you say anything once. Once you get one. Yep.

Right. There's only one team that can go back to back now.

Zach, what does this mean for Melo's legacy?

I'm still processing everything.

Okay. Well, I'd like an answer on what it means for Melo's legacy.

I will say that Jaylen Brown's a superhero. Just confirmed superhero.

So did you see Melo said like, I think there was a quote that he was like yelling out orders during the comeback game. What do you mean? Like he was on the baseline.

I did see that.

I like that. Coaching them up is like, is like almost like verbal facilitating.

Yeah. Just recommendations.

Yeah. Yeah. Does, does winning a championship like this and actually experiencing top-of-the-line joy with an awesome, fun, entertaining team that was just fucking dominant, does that make you look back at all at like Linsanity and be like, what the fuck? Why did we go so crazy back then?

Oh yeah. This, I think this is like one, one. Like how to win a championship.

Like, like, were we all basically the, the dumbest people in the world when Kevin Knox had one good summer league game?

He was, he was good in that summer.

He was actually, it's more than one game. But yeah, it is funny to think back. And I'm not, I'm not saying you guys, that's every fan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every, everywhere. But it is funny to look back and be like, oh shit, that's, this is what good basketball looks like. Yep. All that other stuff that we thought just really bad.

Yeah, but, and that's what you do as a sports fan. You delude yourself into thinking that no matter, you know, like one, one small stretch of something out of the ordinary is like, that's what the rest of your life is going to be like. And maybe we, we figure something out. And then when you actually do have that success later, you realize, oh yeah, this, this looks absolutely nothing like that 2-week stretch that I thought that Sam Howell was going to be a Super Bowl-winning quarterback.

Oh, this is good. Stu Finer said about Wemby's quote, we absolutely dominated for most of the series. He said he's absolutely right. Now get down on your knees with your shine box and make sure our trophy is spotless for our parade Thursday, douchebag. Wemby on his knees is taller than Stu.

Way, way taller.

Way taller.

Still could not polish Stu's shoes. He'd have to be laying down on his belly.

It is so funny how fast, like, Wemby became such a villain. It was instant. And I like it. Yeah, it's— listen, this is a great series for the NBA. Yeah, we got great storyline where the trophy was on the court.

We love that.

Mm-hmm.

It did feel special.

Felt really special.

Is Wimby confirmed playing next year?

Oh, oh, because he said, see you never.

See you never.

Never feels like maybe forever.

For a long time.

Yeah.

Could just be in a temple permanently.

Yeah. Like East Ventura.

Yeah, maybe, maybe comes back with like a monk son prodigy.

Hmm. I didn't even think about that. But you might be right. Yeah.

Okay. That would actually kick ass if the Spurs got rid of Fox and then they just had a dude in like a robe on the bench next to Wemby at all times.

Or if they got rid of Fox because they're like, we need someone better. And then Wemby's like, I retire.

Yeah. Spiritual advisor.

Okay. The other trophy, Carolina Hurricanes win the Stanley Cup and Brandon Bussi. The, the Knights got bussied big time. Bussied, they got big time bussied. The, the entire series basically flipped when Anderson got his, uh, bell rung on that— was it Game 3? And they're like, oh yeah, this goalie that we're about to put in is better than everyone else. And it just— I, I— it was incredible Stanley Cup Final. We had like 4 or 5 games that were just peak hockey, just craziness, intensity, comebacks, goals, overtime. I, I don't remember a Stanley Cup Final where I like— I was so convinced that the Knights were the vastly superior team. Well, for the first 3 games.

No. Then what happened was the third period of Game 3 happened. Yeah. And we said like, if the, if the Hurricanes if they win this, it's over. It turns out it was over because the Knights just gave up that massive lead.

Yeah.

And at that moment, I feel like the Hurricanes were like, okay, we can do this. And the Knights, the butthole tightened a little bit.

Yep.

And then it was just all Canes from that point on.

But dominant, Domus, similar to the, to the Knicks, dominant, dominant run from the Hurricanes. They lost 3 games as well, right?

Yeah. Did they?

I think they went sweep, sweep, 5 games, 6 games.

Good for them. Hey, good for Jordan Staal too.

Yeah. And I mean, they were— and also good for Hurricanes fans. They, they were kind of the joke of the league. Not, not in a like terrible team way, but like a joke of the league in that every year they'd get to the conference final, then get absolutely smashed, and no one took them seriously. And then they just got on this dominant, dominant run. And Bussi, you have to wonder like, what does the series look like if Bussi never comes into to it. Also, what does the series look like if Carter Hart maybe gets benched at some point?

Also, yeah, what is our— what do our lives look like with no Bussi? I can't even remember what it was like before Bussi.

No, I'm sad that all the playoffs are over though. That it is a little— Hank, it's a little sad.

It is sad. I was hoping for a Game 7.

I was too. It would have been nice to have a Game 7, but the Knights are just not— like, it felt like the Hurricanes dominated that series, like I said, from that third period on, even though they lost that third game. They were just the better team overall. So yeah, congrats to the Hurricanes.

And Jordan Staal is, I believe, the oldest Conn Smythe Trophy winner in the history of the NHL.

He deserves it.

So good for him. And then Rob Brind'Amour to do it as a player, as a coach. Pretty cool. Yeah, pretty cool moment for Hurricanes fans. I know that they are Duke basketball fans for the most part.

No, there's some UNC.

I'm willing to overlook that and say congratulations.

Yeah, Hurricanes fans, UNC, NC State. I bet you there's a lot of NC State.

Yeah, probably. Yeah. Because Raleigh.

Yeah, I can deal with that. It's actually probably not a lot of Duke because Duke's a lot of out-of-state.

OK, well, for the Duke fans, I'm going to fuck you guys.

Yeah, I'm willing.

I'm willing to be the bigger man. But if you are a Duke fan, just know I'm a little bit less happy for you.

Also, I feel like Duke, like true, true Duke douchebag fans, they— their only sport is Duke basketball. There is no others.

The Brotherhood.

Yeah, I mean, So sport, it's life. Yeah. Yeah.

Or it's Yankees, Lakers, Duke.

Right.

Right.

I think Duke basketball fans also tend to enjoy the fact that all the players on the team, like, have to go to class and they have to take, take tests and shit. It's like, I like, I like to only cheer for good students. Yeah. Not much of a pro sports man myself.

That's pretty, pretty sick. The Cup is always so fucking sick.

Yeah.

Rod Brindlemore. The 2006—

that was 20 years ago.

Yeah. Captaining the Hurricanes 2006, then coaching the Hurricanes in 2026. Pretty damn awesome. And I love that he's always got the little, little Pepe Le Pew in his hair. Yeah, it's good.

Yeah.

A little salt and pepper. Okay. What do you guys— what should we talk about next? Should we talk about World Cup?

We talk some Cup. We can talk some Cup.

We're the best team ever.

I believe. I believe that. I believe that we might be good. I believe we might be good.

Listen, I don't care if Paraguay stinks. They don't. Yeah, I don't. But I'm saying I don't even care if you— if someone say, hey, you know, Paraguay actually stinks, I don't give a fuck. We would have beaten every single team in the world on Friday night.

That was the best I've ever seen U.S. soccer play in any game ever.

It was awesome.

It was— it was incredible. It was a fun brand of soccer. Um, they're calling it the Pochettino Pentagon that he has at midfield.

I— listen, I was— I've been skeptical of Pochettino because I've been led astray many times by, by whoever's the coach of the US. Uh, the Pentagon was sick.

The Pentagon was great.

It was really sick.

The Pentagon is Pulisic, Balogun, McKinney, Tillman, and Tyler Adams, dude, just dominating the middle of the field. And then with Dest making the runs down the outside. We were fucking awesome. There's no two ways about it. Like, I rewatched the entire game on Saturday morning and I came away even more impressed when I rewatched it. I'm not saying we're going to win the World Cup because there's a lot of good teams. There's a lot of teams out there that are better than we could. But the way that we played on Friday, we could beat any team in the world if we played like that. Yeah, that's not saying we can do it 8 games in a row, but we can beat any team in the world if we played that style, that much pressure. I like— I loved at the very beginning on the kickoff, we just sent it down the field out of bounds because we said, fuck you, we're going to press on you guys in your own end. And that was the most impressive thing. I felt like if we lost the ball in the attacking third, we would just swarm and counter-press back and more times than not win the ball back.

The pressure was just— it was suffocating. It was an awesome brand of football. Balligan is a striker that we've never had before, a guy that can absolutely finish. And he is just— he's dynamic up front. I'm so glad that he chose to come back home to the United States because he was like, oh, maybe I'll go to Nigeria, maybe I'll be England, whatever. So glad we got that guy back.

I mean, the fact that the reason why we have him in the first place is that his mom was too pregnant to fly. Yeah, she was too fat to fly.

Yep.

I think she showed up to the airport and they were like, no, you can't.

You're too pregnant to fly. She didn't live in America. Then she had to stay. Give birth. That's awesome. Yeah, I remember when you do that more often.

I remember when we, we had him, when we, like, the US national team made the announcement that we got Balogun because I think it was on the same day that there was a little oopsie from one NBA player in Memphis. And we said, that's Balogun. Those are two of John Moran's favorite things. And that was an amazing day for US soccer to get him. And Pulisic is just I think he's healthy. We pulled him at halftime. I think it was just like a precautionary thing that the way that we have him creating in space, connecting with Balogun, is going to be tough for any team to defend. They're that good. Like where, where what you saw, it's not a fluke because Paraguay, I believe they gave up the fewest goals in South American qualifying last year. So even though they didn't finish at the top of South America, it was like Argentina and then everybody else grouped up together. They had the best defense in South America.

And listen, will this— some of this look bad? Uh, yes. Yeah. But this is what I, I just want to root for an exciting team. And I saw the stat: in 6 of the— the, the US has been in 11 World Cups. In 6 of the 11 that we've been in, we've scored less than 4 goals in the entire tournament that we've been in. Yep. We scored 4 goals on Friday night. And I just want goals.

And we could have had more.

Yeah.

And we could have had a lot more.

We were being nice to them.

I made a list of the top 5 U.S. soccer performances that I've ever seen in my entire life.

How many are ties?

None of them are ties.

Whoa. Not even the one against Portugal?

None of them are ties.

That was a sick tie.

Top 5.

How many are losses?

Top— we'll get to one of them's a loss. We'll get to that.

I know which one's a loss.

Top 5. Top 5 U.S. soccer performances of all time in my lifetime. Men's team number 5, 2-0 in the 2002 World Cup when we beat Mexico as 2-0, 1-0. That was the first one. And that was in the knockout stage. That was awesome. Number 4, the 1-0 loss to Brazil in 1994 in the knockout stage on the Fourth of July. Number 3, and Brazil would go on to become World Cup champions that year. Number 3, the 1-0 loss to Germany in 2002, which we actually should have tied, but there was a handball that they didn't call in the box. It's a bunch of bullshit. Shit. Um, number 2, the 2-0 win over Spain in 2009 in the Confederations Cup semifinal. They were the number 1 team in the world. We beat them. We go to the final. We were up 2-0 against Brazil at halftime. Then Billy Mays died, and then everything fell apart.

And what happened?

Brazil scored 3 goals on us in the second half. That makes sense. And then number 1 was the game against Paraguay in the World Cup. I've never seen the US look that good at soccer. And it was awesome to see. I loved every second of it. The defense looked amazing. Chris Richards was probably the best defender on the field. And then also Tim Ream had a great game, even though he's old and he's slow, he still played really, really good. So now we get Australia and the Socceroos and no problem.

We're so good. We're so fucking good at soccer.

They're fast. Australia's fast. Our defense is not fast. Also, Gio Reyna had a sick-ass goal. At the very end. That was cool to see.

I'm just going to enjoy being cocky for a week. I believe because we—

I believe in this team.

We don't have a— we have a week now that we have a 4-1 in our back pocket. Yeah, I'm going to— I'm going to— I'm going to be cocky about it.

It was an awesome game. It was. I— we don't like to play the ratings game, but I think it did draw more— more eyeballs in the United States than any game in the NBA Finals.

Ooh.

Which is pretty crazy.

Whoa. Hank, did you watch the game?

No, I was at a concert.

How's the concert?

It's great. Are you getting a little soccer fever hearing us talk about it?

I'll tune in to some soccer this week.

Okay.

Did you watch any highlights of the game?

Nope.

You should watch highlights. Are fun.

Can I pitch you on something? We were really good. Can I pitch you on something?

Soccer. When we play a real team, I'll tune in.

Okay. Soccer has decided that they're going to do quarters now. Except they're just pretending that it's not quarters. They call them hydration breaks, even though I think it was like 75 degrees in LA and indoor stadium. Yeah, they're doing quarters now. So kind of nice. You can go take a piss break. They just found a way to get more ads in our face. It sucks. Yeah, they just so fucking stupid. Told us there's going to be hydration and they keep running the clock, which I— yeah, whatever.

They do hydration and then it cuts to 3 commercials every time.

Yeah, it's crazy. Also, who's back of the week? Lenny Donovan's hair looks incredible.

It does.

Yeah, it's all natural.

They run the clock during—

yes, it's 3 minutes.

It's the stupidest part of soccer.

Dumbest shit ever, man.

The referee keeps track on his own little personal watch down on the field. So there's no official clock, Max.

So they just— so they just add an extra like it's always an extra 3.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Sure. Time.

Yeah.

How stupid is that? Just fucking call timeout. Give, give the kids some orange slices and Oreos and let them get back out there.

Hank, will you do me a favor? Will you commit to watching 10 minutes of highlights from this game and just tell me in minutes?

Why don't you come to the— let's go to the Soccer Bar Friday.

Mm.

He's got— he's got to see this.

Here, let me show you a video.

He's got to see. I'm actually—

it was—

I know kids this weekend, but I will not be in Chicago.

Hank, I'm telling you, I agree with you for the most part that soccer can be a very boring sport and very frustrating to watch. This team is not boring. This team is fucking awesome.

The Japan-Netherlands game was awesome.

Yeah, it was.

There are some really cool games this week.

There were—

there were some— there are some fun games. World Cup is the best. I listen. I'm not the biggest soccer fan. If you can't get in in on the World Cup, you got— you're just not a sports fan.

I love the rivalry. We got Scotland fans versus the sun. They were not ready for the United States sun. Alexi Lalas versus Zlatan and Thierry Henry. The funny thing about Alexi Lalas versus the world.

Yeah.

Alexi Lalas, his ego is what people think Zlatan's ego is. And then Zlatan's like, why are you saying this? You're not Zlatan. You're not allowed to think like this. Only me. And then, oh, I love Japan. The Japanese fans, they were in Dallas, they were in Jerry's World today. They were playing against Netherlands. They, they bring their own trash bags into the game so that they can clean up the stadium after the game's over.

Mm-hmm. I also saw the one Japanese fan that— so, so we talked about the Germany fans who— listen, whatever, whatever you think about the viral tweets of them being like, hey, here's a gas station, this is incredible. Instant 5,000 retweets. By the way, I have no ill will towards those, those kids. They basically realized within the first 2 days of being in the U.S. that through Elon Musk paying people on Twitter, they can basically pay for their entire summer by just going to Waffle House and, and hitting send tweet. Yeah, I did like, though, the Japanese guy. Did you guys see the Japanese guy who filled up on chips? Yeah. Chips and chipped himself to death. That's funny. I mean, listen, I chip myself to death all the time. So this is what he said. He said it was a tweet from this Japanese guy. He said, USA, a Mexican restaurant. We had not yet ordered anything and the food was already arriving. Chips, salsa, unrequested, free. I stopped the waiter. We have not earned these. They just come with the table, man. They come with the table. In my land, hospitality is a debt.

Every gift creates an obligation, weighed carefully, returned in the proper season with interest of feeling. Here, the gift arrives before you have even proven you can pay for your dinner. 'This is not an appetizer, this is a declaration. We trust you. Eat.' I ate with the gravity the moment deserved. And then, I must report this calmly, the basket emptied and a new one appeared. 'Did we refill?' the waiter said. 'It's bottomless.' Bottomless. They have wells of salsa. The supply lines of this nation are beyond anything my ancestors imagined. I think this is obviously a little fake, but I don't give a fuck because this is— we all chip ourselves to death. And then my friend warned me, 'Don't fill up on chips, dude.' Too late. I had accepted 3 baskets. Honor demanded each one be finished. An unfinished gift is an insult. By the time my actual food arrived, I was a ruined man.

Yeah.

Listen, we understand chips, bottomless chips and salsa, and I still chip myself to death all the time. I do love all these people coming in and seeing how awesome I like the Swedish chick that was like, what is ranch?

This is amazing stuff. I want to put this on everything.

Yeah.

But yeah, now you're going to see You see some copycats out there now.

Oh yeah, big time. And then finally, before we do Who's Back of the Week and then get to Mr. Bing Bong, Jerry O'Connell, UFC 250, which is still ongoing. Those pictures of, of I don't know who it was who stood up on top of the octagon in front of the White House. That was one of the coolest pictures ever.

I didn't see that.

Oh my God. I got to find it for you. It was— can you find— can you pull it up? Max just left. Who was it? Zach. Hank, do you have anything to report? UFC 250, great spectacle. Derrick Lewis got his ass kicked hard, real bad, knocked out real bad.

Incredible flyover.

Let me see the picture. There was the—

there was also flyover.

Travis Pastrana was doing Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds.

He was doing dirt bike, right, on Saturday?

Yep.

And someone said like, this is— this is like watching a movie where the plot is a 12-year-old becomes president. Listen, that was— it was awesome to watch. Travis Pastrana is the man. We know that for a fact. It was a picture, whatever. It was cool as fuck. It was basically— he was just standing on top of the, uh, of the octagon and the White House was right in front of him.

And it was just— it was Diego Lopez.

Diego Lopez. Look, photos. Look for me. Yeah, there it is. Look at that, PFT. That's cool. Yeah, it's cool to win a fight and then stand like that. That's badass. That's cool. So yeah, USC 250. Okay, should we do who's back of the week? Who's back of the week is brought to you by our friends at Twisted Tea. Twisted Tea. Summer's here and Twisted Tea is coming in clutch to turn our day drinking up a notch. Their new summer party pack is a brand new twisted lemonade made with real lemons and 5% alcohol. It's got that refreshing taste. With a little kick. No carbonation, goes down smooth. We love Twisted Lemonade. It's great to bring along if you're on the grill in the backyard with your friends, whether it's hitting the course for a round, pre-gaming a ball game, or inviting the guys over for some backyard grilling. The new Twisted Tea Summer Party Pack is perfect to keep the good times rolling. Grab a refreshing Twisted Tea today. Twisted Tea, the new party pack is incredible, perfect for the summer. It's the drink of the summer. Twisted to T. Last thing about UFC 250, I always forget how stupid I am about— I like watching the UFC.

I like— I'm definitely a casual. I watch probably, I don't know, 7 pay-per-views a year. But just anytime I tweet anything about it, I feel like such an idiot because I was like, Derrick Lewis, how did he— how did he— how'd he survive that armbar? And a bunch of people were like, dude, that wasn't— he didn't— the guy didn't know how to do an armbar at all. He was just literally just, just holding his arm. He was basically tickling his arm.

That's funny because we were watching it. We were in the gambling cave. We were all watching it. And we covered our eyes. We're like, oh shit, oh shit. Yeah, he didn't set it at all. Meanwhile, I'm sure if we had sound on, Joe Rogan would be like, that's not in.

Yeah, Joe Rogan's tie, by the way, has he ever had one?

That was a Merrill Hodge tie.

Preposterous tie.

It was, it was the Merrill Hodge tie, which is you have, you have to tie it up so high to get the big knot that you want. Yeah, that you have no choice but to have the shortest tie.

It, it didn't even clear his belly button.

And Joe Rogan is not How do I put that? He's, he's about my height.

Yeah.

So that tie was very short. Very short.

Very short tie. Hank, your Who's Back of the Week?

Who's Back of the Week is Jackass.

Yes.

They have a new movie coming out in theaters. I feel like I've always— I feel like they've come out with their last movie like 4 times. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but I don't care. Down for more Jackass.

I'm going to keep watching.

So excited.

Billy Strings soundtrack. Jackass, that's, you know, the Venn diagram. Like, that's— I'm all in.

Billy Strings doing the soundtrack?

Yeah. Oh, fuck, the entire soundtrack?

Or no, he did like a trailer, like they put on, like he made an original song that's like, you know, a take on the regular Jackass.

When is it out? 26th? Should the boys go? Yeah, should the boys try to go see it on the 25th? Because usually they come out. We should try to buy tickets.

I'm down.

Maybe do a little review on the pod. Jackass, which the review will just be, doubt. Remember that time when we did that? Nuts. That was awesome.

I think we did this in L.A. Yeah, we did.

You're right.

Run it back.

Okay.

They could keep— they could make 20 more Jackasses. It's— and I would watch everything.

My favorite thing ever.

It's—

it's— I love it so, so much. It's actually— I'm sad that this is it. All right, good. Who's back?

Thank you.

PFT. My Who's Back of the Week is James Harden.

Remember when— remember when he put on the funnel and he had the space mask and they shit into it and Preston started puking in the space mask?

Yeah, that was awesome.

That was fucking best.

Remember when they— they put their dicks inside like little puppets so it looked like mice and then they put the mice into a snake pit until the— until the snake bit their penis? That was the best. Remember the giant hand?

That giant hand was so good.

Yeah, it was good.

Okay, sorry.

My Who's Back of the Week is James Harden. James Harden is back. Got arrested on Saturday on a charge of unlawful carrying of a weapon in a motor vehicle, according to the Harris County District Clerk's Office in the great state of Texas. I did a little bit of research into this. Okay. Because I was like, what does this mean? Unlawful carrying of a weapon in a motor vehicle. I looked into it. He had a gun that he's allowed to have. Basically, there's really no gun that you can't have in Texas. He just didn't have it in a holster in the car. Oh, and so they arrested him for that. And apparently the cops do that if they're just like, if you're being a dick or if there's a reason why they want to take you in, maybe they suspect you of something else.

Okay.

And they see that you don't have it in a holster. They'll arrest you for that. Very hard to make that charge stick.

Yeah.

Yeah. So I think James Harden— I'm going to say free James Harden.

Okay.

I don't think— I don't think that of all things that you could be mad at James Harden for, this is like probably 50th on the list.

I would—

yeah, every, every playoff game that he's had is worse than him carrying a gun without a holster in his car.

Listen, I'm going to go basically fully off of what you just told me and none of my own research. I agree. Free James Harden. And Hank agreed to do Soggy Sars.

Free James Harden.

Yeah, both those things happen.

What do you think about James Harden, Hank?

Free James Harden.

I guess if he goes to jail, will you do Soggy Sars? Yeah.

Okay.

Yes.

Wait, he was held on a, on a $100 bond, so they were just trying to— they were trying to humiliate him.

Yeah.

They're trying to embarrass the man.

Yeah. It was just sitting out.

He just had a gun out. It was a naked gun. He had a naked gun in his car. Basically, a stripper of guns was in his car and had no clothes, and they arrested him for it because they're haters. That's what I'm going to say. The Harris County Police are haters.

Okay.

My Who's Back of the Week, I have two. First is Kentucky Sports Radio. We are hosting Kentucky Sports Radio on Tuesday, tomorrow. Please listen. We do this. I think we've done it. 8 out of the last 9 years. Uh, our good friend Matt Jones, Kentucky Sports Radio, he goes on vacation in the summer, he lets us host for a day. It's very fun. We also, please, we want to talk to real Kentucky Sports Radio callers, uh, so let those people call in. Uh, we will run the best Kentucky Sports Radio calls on Wednesday's show, so if you can't tune in live, we'll have some of the highlights. But yeah, one of our favorite days to host a radio show and we're going to be doing it again.

So we will be— we'll be screening out phone calls that don't have Kentucky area codes.

Yeah.

And then who's back of the week? It's not really a who's back, but it just needs to be mentioned. Jacob Mizrahi is a problem. That was insane what he did on Friday night.

He struck Kyle Schwarber out with a 105-mile-an-hour pitch on the black.

Like, you can—

how are you supposed to hit that?

He threw a 15-strikeout Maddux, and a Maddux is under 100 pitches complete game. He never got to a 3-ball count. He gave up one hit to Kyle Schwarber, one hit all game. He had 15 Ks. He had 26, uh, swing and misses. He is in the last 8 starts, he's 7-0. 0.17 ERA.

Of the top 10 fastest pitchers this year, how many do you think he's thrown?

All of them. He threw 104, 105 miles an hour.

I think of like the fat— the fast 50 fastest recorded pitches ever by a starting pitcher. I think he has like 45 of them.

Listen, and I, I, I hate the Brewers, but one thing that I, I, I can't stand is And people doing this like, well, he's going to get hurt. Fuck off, dude. He's like, this is insane what we're watching. Just enjoy it. You don't have to wish injury on a guy. No, he's insane.

He's awesome. You remember when he made— he made the All-Star Game and everybody's like, why are we putting this guy in the All-Star? It's a little too early.

Yeah.

You remember who complained? It was the Philadelphia Phillies.

Yeah.

Well, that's just got fucking shoved.

You got shoved.

He had pitched 4 games.

Yeah, but he's this good.

Yeah, listen, very good, yes, but that is not— that is not what an All-Star is.

What is an All-Star?

Someone who is like displayed something throughout the entire season, not someone who just got called up that happens to be very good.

But if he's that good—

but it's about like what you have done in the first half of the season, not what you have done in the last month.

Butts in seats.

I have a— yeah, see, that's what— yeah, butts in seats, I get it. He did not deserve to be an All-Star last year. Yeah, I stand by that.

This pitch is insane. I have an uncomfortable conversation starter I'd like to ask real quick. Yeah, I mean, it's—

it's—

look at that. It's nuts.

0.71—

0.17 ERA. That's just— put your hands up and be like, we're witnessing something that's just insane. Insane. 80 strikeouts in his last 8 starts. Is this— and he's, he's a guest and a friend of the show, but Paul Skeens, like, what do you do if you're Paul Skeens right now? I mean, that was the quickest. Jacob Mizrafsky is the most electric arm in baseball. It's not even— it's not close right now. I just—

I—

yeah, Paul Skeens is an absolute stud.

I was making the Christian Sanchez argument 2 weeks ago and it's like, right, it's Mizerowski. Like, it's Mizerowski.

This is unheard of what he's doing right now.

Who do you think should have won National League Player of the Month in May, Max?

Well, Christian Sanchez did win. Yeah, they didn't give up a run.

But would you, would you trade that for the All-Star Game last year? What? Would you trade that NL Player of the Month for the All-Star Game last year?

I don't care.

Give this one to Miz.

I—

yeah, would you?

You cared a lot.

I, I currently do not care.

Sure. Okay.

No, I, I don't care.

Wait, Max, that game on Friday night when Jacob Zierowski threw a complete game, did you guys get a hit?

Yep.

All right, great. Not a no-hitter.

Shout out, Schwarber.

There you go.

See how easy that is?

You asked me a question.

I answered the right. I know. And I'm telling you, that's the record.

For the record, Max doesn't care.

You guys did not get no-hit on Friday night.

Nope.

Didn't. How you feel about your problem, dude? He's a problem.

How you feeling about the Fightin'?

We got to— we got to pick up a right-handed bat with our only right-handed bat just went down today. Trey Turner's got to pick it up.

That's what I think about the Phils right now.

Have you thought about clapping for him?

There's going to need to be some clapping soon because he has like the worst OPS in baseball right now.

No, no. Ah, Cubs got some guys.

Yeah, he has the 10th worst OPS, but we might have—

we may have a few, few on that list.

Guys want— guys want Suzuki.

Say yeah.

Yeah, all Phillies Twitter is asking for him.

He tweaked his knee today. I think so, which was bound to happen having to play right field every day. Uh, Zach, go ahead. But yeah, Jacob Mizerowski, like, if you are— if you're a casual baseball fan, if you're not someone who's tuned in, like, it's, it's insane what he's doing right now. And again, I fucking hate the Brewers, but even I have to be like, tip my hat. Like, I don't even know what to say. It's so, it's so ridiculous watching some of these pitches and the speed and, and his numbers in the last 8 starts are just out of this world. He's given up 1 run in 8 starts. He's given up 1 run since May 1st. Stupid. That's stupid. Okay, Zach, finish off my—

who's back of the week this week is people with Puerto Rican descent in their heritage. Because I did what a lot of fans did last night. I was following a lot of the guys after they won. I saw Jose Alvarado end up at the Puerto Rican Day Parade and it just looked like an absolute blast.

Oh, yeah.

I think we got to have more parades. More reason to celebrate because it just looks so much fun.

Yeah.

Food, festivities, floats. I mean, look like a great day.

Everything. Any other parades you'd want to attend this month?

Oh, I mean, they're going to have the— the Knicks are going to have a parade as well. That would be— that would be sick.

Guys are having the other parades.

You guys, what other parades do you think of in June?

Pride Parade.

Oh, yeah, they got Pride Parade. Probably sick. Never been to one. Shout out to— shout out to those parades.

All parades.

Yeah, those are like super inclusive parades. Shout out to those.

The Mexican Independence Parade in Chicago. That you would like that, Zach. It's— it's Crazy lit.

Are you allowed to go as a— Yeah, you could just to help celebrate, right? There's no like— I'd have to check that out, Hank.

Also, they don't have like— Yeah, there's no color wheel they look at and they're like, hey, fair.

Zach, also, who's back of the week?

And then you're— I do have—

Go ahead, you go. And then I have one for you.

I would try to call you out there.

No, no, you go.

Oh, so the other one is just the Japanese fans because I thought it was sick. They were helping clean up the arena.

Yeah.

And James.

James. Well, James got in there with the bag and they use him to celebrate and they use him to clean up. I think it's a beautiful thing.

I love that, bringing the bags. Yeah, Philly fans should do that just, just for their own puke.

It's a good call.

Yeah, yeah, I guess if you had to puke, it would be nice doing a bag.

Zach, who's back of the week? The Great Lakes.

You guys were all the way right about the Great Lakes. We're talking about it. So all the way right.

For people who don't know, Zach has lived in Chicago for 13 months now. And I didn't realize this because we went and did a fishing competition, uh, a week and a half ago, but I didn't realize 2 days before that we went to the Madden premiere event at Navy Pier. That was the first time you had seen Lake Michigan? Like, like, 13 months, that was the first time you'd seen Lake Michigan?

I think I saw a piece of the lake when we went to that golf course.

No, that was after it. We did, when we went to Shore Acres, you saw We walked out and saw it.

No, no, no. We did a golf video like a year, like a year ago.

I think it was like a head-to-head matchup. We in the courses by a part of the lake.

It was the infamous Jackson Park. So but that was from a distance.

Yeah.

He saw it.

You could like hear the lake, but you couldn't really see, by the way.

And I know people, there'll be people, memes. Remember when memes tried to basically take down Zach's entire life. That was crazy. Yeah, 2 weeks ago, that was for saying the wrong number. Sometimes you guys won. Can you at least admit you overreacted? Yeah.

Okay.

But anyway, great win, Memes. For the, for the, for the Memes when he's angry people of the world to be like, Zach's putting on a bit right now. It is not, because Memes, you could attest this. When we went to— I took you and Zach to Cubs-Mets in, I believe it was like late April, and Zach had never been to Wrigleyville.

Zach doesn't— Zach's an inside guy.

I'm pretty open about being in the house a lot.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think there's a lot of other guys who are also kind of inside most of the time.

But never have seen the lake. You live like 4 miles from the lake.

Way less than that.

Zach, what direction does your window face?

Like compass-wise? I'm not sure. I actually— you know, because the, the sun— I get early sunlight, so I have to be facing—

does your window face the lake?

You live 3 miles from the lake.

Yeah, everything's super relative, really close. I am an on-foot guy a lot, so I wouldn't have— I'm not usually busting out a quick 3. Yeah, I did see the riverwalk, the river too. The river's sick. I've been there a couple of times now. But yeah, the scale of the lake— and even here, once you see the green all the way around, you don't really acknowledge how big it is.

It's great.

The map there, you could have just said this is an ocean. Yeah, you could take someone there, blindfold them there, walk them there. It's an ocean. You guys were always right about this, the scale of the lake and how sick it is.

They call them great for a reason.

And so I mean, I was, I was being a hater. I was an early hater when I found out about the lake.

Why would you hate on the lake?

Because people were saying there was beaches too, and then I googled the beaches and it's their parking lots.

Not all. No, not all. Some have sand.

I know now for sure.

We did the volleyball a couple of years ago. I mean, that was last year, right?

Yeah.

And that was awesome.

Yeah.

Shout out to the lake, man.

Zach, I'm going to recommend you try looking east at some point from your apartment. Maybe see some of that water. It does. This time of year, it looks like almost tropical.

Depends on the time of day.

I got no water from viewpoint. I would have seen— I think I would have seen— I looked out the window. My desk faces the window. I look at the window a lot. I got no water from the point. So maybe they're just like some obstruction.

Zach, you're like, you're like my 3-year-old. He calls the lake the big pool. He just goes, that's the big pool.

Good nickname for the lake.

Yeah, it's great nickname for the big pool.

Yeah.

Okay, good. Who's back, boys? Now we have Jerry O'Connell, which we should give a little background. Jerry was in town for a live show. And we told Hank that Brian Winhorst was going to be the guest today and then surprised Hank with Mr. Bing.

Hank was a delight.

Hank, I can't believe I got— you're usually sharper than that.

Yeah, I just wasn't. I mean, again, like, I didn't think this series had anything to do with me, so I don't— I was not expecting it.

Okay, let's get to Jerry O'Connell.

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All right, we now welcome on a very special guest. Come on in!

It's Mr. Bing Bong!

We told Hank it was gonna be Brian Wynhorse.

Look who it is! You watching the soccer? You watching the football? What do you got here? What is this, CIV?

I don't even know what country that is.

Italy?

How'd you fall? Don't you got a show? I actually should have. I actually should have. Yeah, when I said sit on the couch, I thought I was like, he's gonna know that something's up when I told him to sit on the couch for a Zoom interview with Windy. But here he is, Jerry O'Connell. Nah, nah, nah, no, I'm sorry, Mr. Bing Bong, fresh off his Knicks winning a title. Congratulations, Mr. Bing Bong. Look at Hank's face.

Is there something you want to say right off the bat?

Yeah, you know, there is, uh, something I want to say. Mr. Bing Bong has really been waiting for this moment. No, sit down, Hanky. You got to enjoy this. Mr. Bing Bong has really been, uh, waiting for this moment. Actually, can I move this mic over? I want to sit right next to—

I'm going to pull the cord here.

Okay. Yeah, really the entire couch there.

I'll help you, I'll help you, I'll help you.

Yeah, that's what the couch is for. Get close, make a friend.

I don't know if I can do this. It's not going to happen. I don't think this—

is this as close as it's going to be? Actually, Hanky, why don't you come over here?

Come on. Yeah, come on and sit next to me.

Mic. Yeah, can't do that.

Come on, just come over.

No?

All right. Oh man.

All right, all right.

Don't you—

aren't you—

don't you have a job tonight?

I can't.

Are you— aren't you working, Hank?

How did you not— how did you not know something was up?

I honestly, like, I'm an idiot. I—

the couch thing was such a giveaway.

I wasn't even thinking at that point.

Someone—

I was, I was playing golf earlier and they're like, oh, who do you have on tonight? I was like, Winnie. Like, didn't you just have him on? I was like, yeah, we're having him on again. Like that.

Did it occur to you that Jerry was in town?

Yes, Dante was asking me, he's like, are you going tonight? I was like, no, we're doing the podcast. Yeah, I thought, I thought your thing was tonight.

Like, it is tonight. I'm going over right after this. I've got big stars, Corey Feldman, Wil Wheaton, all the people from Stand By Me are waiting just for Mr. Bing Bong to come and say hi to Hanky.

Mr. Bing Bong's so excited. Don't be weird. Don't get weird with me now.

Stop.

Physical contact.

You're getting weird. Just take it, Hanky. Take it, Hanky. Take it. Relax, okay? Just a tip. Hold on a second. You ready, Hanky? Hey, uh, Mr. Bing Bong here to talk to you about the team of the decade. Oh, Bing Bong, the team of the decade. Nobody remembers 28-3 now. It's over. Bing Bong, happy birthday. Hey, Jalen Brown, remember, remember Jalen Brown? He was fined $70,000 for saying the officials had an agenda against him. That's crazy. That's crazy. An agenda against him.

That would be like saying Mr. Bing Bong has an agenda against you because your head coach was fucking a reporter to help AJ Brown go to her team. Oh, Bing Bong, that'd be wild.

Happy birthday. Hey, hey, uh, Hanky, Mr. Bing Bong was interested in the fact that your coach, Coach Mazzullo, said he felt an emptiness after he lost to the Sixers, the same emptiness he felt after he won the championship. Oh, a lot of emptiness, you know?

A lot of emptiness, like the emptiness in your bedroom after you blew it with Tiffany Gilmour. Bing Bong! Gotta jerk off to pictures of Mark Wahlberg in his underwear.

Ming Ma, your life is empty like Coach Mazzulla after a championship. Happy birthday. Hey, uh, Hanky, uh, maybe, uh, maybe Brad Stevens needs to take some notes on how to build the championship team.

You think so?

You know, hey, no, he just—

what?

No, what were you gonna say, Hanky?

Huh?

He built one.

Oh, he built one. Oh, okay.

Well, maybe, maybe Maybe the Knicks could offer him an intern position, because you got to make Brad Stevens say no.

Hey, Big Mom, offer him the job so he can say no. Happy birthday.

Hey, Hanky, Mr.

Big Mom came all the way to Chicago to see you for your birthday.

This is so exciting. Hey, a couple years ago, remember the Celtics won? Remember that? And you got to ride on the duck boat. We all saw that with your shaved head. You were on the duck boat. Hey, maybe the Knicks will invite you to the parade and you can ride on the cook boat.

Oh, because you like to Watch Tiffany Cobos get fucked. Bing bong! Happy birthday.

Maybe we'll still be living off that championship like you watched Stand By Me 50 years later. That's why, that's why you're here.

That's why you're here, Hank.

Let— for a movie from 1964.

Hank, let me, let me, let me do the comedy, okay?

You just, just sit back and just take this.

Hey, Hanky, Hanky, maybe, uh, speaking of the parade Maybe, maybe they'll invite you to the parade, you know? Maybe you can ride on the float with, uh, with Mayor Mondani. You can ride on the float with him because both of you are lefties.

Bing bong!

Yeah, Hanky Sakami, you love windmills.

Bing bong!

Happy birthday. I hate windmills.

Hey, uh, Hanky, how about— you gotta admit that Game 4, that was something special, right? That Game 4. OG Anunoby. Yeah, OG Anunoby, just like you, you know. You and Tiffany Gomez, and OG Anunoby, just a tip, dipping it in.

Let me get the tip in, Tiffany, please.

I just want to see how it feels. Bing bong, you blew it.

Happy birthday.

Hey, uh, you know, uh, the, the Knicks won the championship. You, you thought the Knicks were just gonna roll into Texas and blow it just like you did with Tiffany Gomez.

Yeah, bing bong.

Hey, speaking of Tiffany Gomez, she wished, uh, uh, President Trump a happy birthday today, but Not you.

You got the same birthday. Birthday twinsies, you and Trump. Geminis. Bing bong. Not really a joke there.

Yeah, we'll have to check our birthday.

Birthday. Maybe within 24, 24-hour span. What time of day were you born?

Birthday guy. June 14th is President Trump.

And what time of day were you born? Do you know?

No.

Okay.

Okay.

Tiffany might be into that. Hey, you thought the Spurs had this all locked up, didn't you? I was reading all your tweets and everything.

Just like, uh, your coach's fingies and Rossini's on that Arizona rooftop after they fucked for 7 years. Bing bong! Locked up, locking fingies. Happy birthday!

Hey, uh, Henki, Mr. Bing Bong here. You must have woken up this morning and been like, oh my gosh, the Knicks are champions? This is not real. This is not real.

Like the Foxborough Lighthouse and that motherfucker in the back of the plane. You blew it! Bing bong! Happy birthday! Happy birthday!

Hey Hanky, Jose Alvarado, you know that player on the Knicks? You know that player on the Knicks?

Yeah.

Okay, making fun of somebody's speech impediment, that's nice. Making fun of an impediment. Hey, um, that's kind of ableist, but Hanky, having Jose Alvarado win a championship, it must really piss you off since you hate Bad Bunny halftime shows and you hate Puerto Ricans.

Bing bong! Hank hates Puerto Ricans! Except Kike Hernandez, he was a Red Sox. Bing bong, happy birthday.

Hey, uh, Robert Kraft, your owner, Robert Kraft. Yeah, he was sitting there right at courtside at MSG. That must have been weird to see that. That must have been weird. But that was good that he went to MSG because it's right next to Koreatown where they got the jerk-off sauce.

Bing bong, your owner's a pervert. Happy birthday.

Happy birthday.

Hey, you know, James Dolan, a good guy though, right?

Hey, Hanky, good counterpoint.

Oh yeah, okay, no footage of James Dolan, whatever. Oh, they destroyed it, they destroyed it. Hey, um, hey, uh, Hanky, Hanky, Hanky, uh, you should have to do soggy sorrows and get in that shower after this Knicks championship, just like you could have been showering with Tiffany Gomez, watching the water drip down her naked body into her beautiful tootsies when you blew You blew it!

And now you gotta shower with Max and watch the water drip down to his infected toe! Bing Bong, you blew it! Happy birthday, Max has infected toes!

That was a while ago.

Hey, you know what? Finally, finally, Mr. Bing Bong wants to say to Hank— Hank, you listening? Hank, you there?

Hank.

Okay. Finally, Mr.

Bing Bong just wants to say, let's start with the AFC East because we're not drafting any Patriots because you actually have a tough schedule this year. That offense is going to be a distraction and AJ Brown is going to single-handedly ruin your team. Bing Bong! Happy birthday!

That was Mr. Bing Bong.

Hank.

Oh, man. I feel like you're not happy to see Jerry. No. Well, maybe not happy to see Mr. Bing Bong, but Jerry's here. Jerry, congratulations. What a night. What a series.

How do you feel? Incredible. I feel, you know, I got to tell you, first of all, to hear like Hank and Mr. Portnoy appreciate everything that he does, their hatred for this, like watching all of Mr. Portnoy's posts on X about like the city burning down and like celebro and all that stuff. Aren't you older than him? Um, who? Well, no, but he owns— like, I appreciate all he does. Wow, you're really salty today.

It's unreal.

Genuinely curious.

I've never seen you so angry. Like, the inside— I like it. I like Angry Hank.

He's back.

Finally, we finally got something out of him. Oh, this is proof of life. This is so exciting. Finally. Um, to see all their, like, hatred of all of this, it's really— I'm not gonna say it's the best part because that would be too hatery and act like they live rent-free in my head. It is so fun to watch them just melt down, to just feel the negative energy just, just vibrating off of Hank right now. It is so exciting to be here. I could not— I could not miss up this chance. It is so exciting, and it never happens. Yeah, it never happens.

It now does. June 13th will live forever.

It is— a lot of teams have won championships.

June 13th is the date.

A lot, a lot of bullshit. There's, there's, there is— it is a very common end of the NBA regular season, like very, very—

to crown a champion. Yeah, except for 2020.

Yeah.

You know, just to let you know, I'm not that much of a hater. I, um, I, I wasn't even— I, I know I did a video for Hank's birthday, um, Um, thanks for, uh, quote— yeah, quote tweeting it. Oh, let me move closer.

You had—

there was like— away from him.

Why Twitter? Like, that video, if you watch that video, it just scrolled to like the craziest porn bots I've ever seen. Like, something about that video got Jerry's in the algorithm.

Yeah, in the algorithm. It is so exciting. What a run. It's a historical run. Yeah, it really is. And It's a run. It's a historical run. You've got to admit that postseason was insane. If you bet the Knicks moneyline and they were underdogs for, I mean, for every Spurs game they were an underdog, were they not?

No, they were favorites a couple of times. But yes, they were.

But during the games, yeah, they were down double digits every game.

I got to tell you, I know this is a gambling podcast and if anyone has a problem, they should call 1-800-GAMBLER. But can you imagine if you just hammered that money line every time they were down by over 20 points, over 15 points?

Someone did the math. I saw it was— if you bet $100 the first time they were down and he did that every single time they were down at their lowest point, you would have won $24 million.

This is what's so insane. This is what's so insane. Watching that Game 4, I go to a bar in Los Angeles. It's called 33 Taps. There's a group of people called Left Coast Knicks. It's so much fun. It's thousands of Knicks fans. There was not a doubt in anyone's minds that they could come back in this game. I, I'm, I, I know that's insane to say, but we all thought it when we were watching it. And, and, and I have to say, um, like a personal story about something that happened with it. I'm so pleased to say this Knicks postseason run has made my daughters, my vapid Southern California daughters who are surrounded by Lakers fans. Surrounded by Lakers fans. This run has made them— they're 17— Knicks fans for life. They would go to parties and they'd be the only people rooting for the Knicks because their dad is from New York and they know their dad is in San Antonio watching the game and all that stuff. And my daughter called me up this morning and was like, hey, we went out, we watched the game, that was so crazy, they were down by 15.

And my daughter plays volleyball, pretty pretty competitively. And she said, Dad, how did they keep winning from behind so much? And I said— I'm not kidding, guys, because it all comes back to part of my take— I said, Charlie, that's her name, I said, they have grit. They have grit. It's like in that Game 4 when Brunson went into the huddle He said, hey guys, smart basketball. This is— we can do this. And there's just— it's when they— when they're down by more than double digits is when they start to really play. We haven't seen— and I'm actually gonna, uh, praise Hank a little bit. I mean, Red Sox being down 3-0 to the Yankees in whatever year that was, '03, '02, whatever, '04, um, you know, 28-3. I mean, this is is they have grit. Yeah, it's— and it's— and, and my daughter, because my daughter's on volleyball teams that just— they lose, they lose, they lose, they lose. And I was like, hey honey, when you're down by 6 points and all your girlfriends like look at each other and you're like, well, we're just like, we're not gonna win this and that's it, let's just, let's just play this out.

Um, they don't do that. That's when they say, all right, we can win this thing. And she said, how do they do it? And I went, if I had the answer to that, I, I would be Phil Jackson, or I, I would Bill Belichick, you're welcome, Hank. I'm trying to make you feel better. It, um, it just is— it's— this team has that magic that we live lifetimes for in sports. This team has that magic.

It's Jalen Brunson. And Jalen Brunson is just—

it's not just Jalen.

No, no, I know I'm saying, but Jalen Brunson is what starts it.

It's—

everyone believes because Jalen Brunson believes, and I think everyone, like, follows something.

But let me just say something else about this team. Game. Everyone stepped up. Yeah, it had moments.

Yeah, no, I'm not saying—

I'm not— would you— obviously had moments. Jose Alvarado had moments.

I'm not saying that Jaylen Brunson's the only player. I'm saying Jaylen—

Mitchell Robinson's rebound yesterday—

incredible. Jaylen Brunson has like a singular belief that I think is infectious to everyone else, where it becomes a, a culture of, oh yeah, we can do this because that's just what we expect.

Unreal. Just what an unreal run. I'm, I'm really enjoying I got a question for you, Jerry.

If we—

when we look back on this 30 years from now and, you know, we look back on some of the old championships and we remember certain teams because of how they won the things that they did to win, I feel like this New York Knicks team will be one of the teams that we look back on and we think of first when we think of this era of basketball, just because of the crazy comebacks that they had, because the storyline surrounding it in New York with a fan base that hasn't won forever, killing people. And I feel like this would be the one, like, one of them, am I right?

Right.

Like, we look back on 2020's basketball. Yeah. And we might think about the New York Knicks first.

Oh yeah.

Let me tell you what's really different about this team, because I don't know much—

totally not a prisoner of the moment. Like, no, that's not just because it just happened.

I was talking to Jerry. I said, Jerry, I got a question.

Yeah, he wasn't talking to you.

I'll get to you.

Lighten up, Hank. Come on. I mean, like, let us have a day, you know? Um, oh, let me tell you the most interesting thing, because I don't know much about the business side of, like, basketball basketball, but I know that the, the GM or the president is a former agent.

Leon Rose.

Yeah. And I know that, um, that Golden State run was run by a former agent too, right? Um, so I think this is going to be the, the beginning of— we're going to start to see sports agents start to run teams a little bit. I think they know things that— about money and about all that stuff.

Also, a lot of people were shocked Leon Rose was white. I saw a lot of people saying that.

Hank, Hank, I gotta give you—

I could see it.

Yeah, Hank, I gotta give you some props. Uh, um, Tom Brady took a pay cut to make sure he was surrounded by talent. Obviously Jalen Brunson did the same thing. I don't personally know of anyone else in the NBA who's doing what Jalen Brunson is doing. Um, I, I hope this becomes— I hope for everyone's fan base's sake this becomes a, a a habit because, man, it feels good.

Well, he, he bet on himself too, because I think— I would imagine the amount of money he's going to make the rest of his career after being the guy who delivered a championship to the Knicks after 53 years will probably surpass what he left on the table in terms of the NBA paying, the Knicks paying him.

Agreed. And incredible. I know he's listed as 6'2", and I don't mean this as a hater, the guy's 6 foot, it doesn't matter. He is a— he is I, I'm just so happy I can say he's on— he's, he's with me. That's my guy. He's on my team.

Um, that's a great polo, by the way.

Oh yeah, you look awesome. Yeah, no, I wore this to Game 1 in San Antonio. Um, I wanted to wear something that said Knicks, but I didn't want to die. Uh, I do have to admit, like, I do want to apologize to all San Antonio fans. What happened in New York was terrible. You were correct, Hank. Um, and the people of San Antonio treated me with such kindness. What a, what a town. It's so funny, I read that one post that— I don't know if it was, uh, Zach or someone said that they wouldn't let, uh, Zach and Steve and, um, memes into a bar with their Knicks gear on, and someone threw a bottle at them, but the bottles didn't hit them. Only a piece of glass cut one of them, but everybody's okay. I mean, it, uh— I, I, I wore this, I got this for San Antonio, and, um, Um, the Knicks just kept winning with me wearing it, so I haven't, uh— I did wash it once, I just haven't, uh—

And the nips don't poke through at all of this? Yeah, we've had some, some bad visuals recently on this program in terms of just some— not you, oh, but just other people on the show. I just know if you have nipples—

oh really?

Like, do you work out? You do push-ups? Me?

Yeah. Um, it's natural, bro. It's just natural.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, this is me. You're not on the gear. What? You're not on the gear.

No, no, no, no, I'm not on any of that stuff. Yeah, am I like you guys on the jab? No, no, no, I'm all good.

That's just me.

What a time, uh, what an exciting time. It's just— what a run. It's just— hey, but by the way, now finally I know what it feels like. You know, I gotta tell you, when the Giants beat the Patriots, it feels like a fluke. It, it just does. It feels like I can't believe that they won this game.

Um, hey, why are you shaking your head?

This is like, this is like different.

You're a fucking Jets fan.

I, I know, but I mean, I, I— what does that have to do with anything? Well, as a Jets fan, you root against any Boston teams.

You just do.

I just don't root for the Giants.

Um, if they're playing the Patriots, yeah.

And by the way, I want to say, as your father, you're rooting for the Giants.

Thank you so much for ruining my 'let's start with the AFC East' joke. That was really— that was, uh, That was really helpful in comedy there, Hank. I'll let it go this time. I realize this is a stressful birthday for you. Is this the worst birthday you've ever had in your life?

Oh, great question. No, really, great question.

No, when you ordered fucking papadillas, we got you a shitload of papadillas.

I'm looking back, uh, some other games you might remember in NBA history that took place on June 13th. Couple Bulls, Boston Celtics, Golden State Warriors. Oh, Warriors 104, Celtics 94, Game 5. That's a bad one.

And there's been like— there's been—

yeah, it's just—

I was just looking— start giving out the trophies.

Let me say something else about the Knicks winning this because, um, please, the game I did go to was Game 1 at the Frost Center Arena. Again, gorgeous town, San Antonio. Highly suggest moving there.

It looks— seemed beautiful.

By the way, really, I'm married.

You're gonna move there?

Well, listen, I'm married to a supermodel. Everyone knows that, look it up. But beautiful women down there when I went out, like gorgeous, very friendly, smiley. I'm into that whole like short shorts, cowboy boots look. It's like a look, it's like a vibe. Um, that said, you walk into the Frost Center arena center, um, they have all those Spurs trophies in there and you forget how many championships that franchise has won. Yeah, and there is something to be said about the Spurs way, um, and it's— I gotta tell you, it's intimidating. It is, it is intimidating when you walk into that house and you see all those championships. Um, I do want to say, uh, in terms of Wemby, I'm not mad at how he acted. I get it, he's a young guy, he plays with passion. Any of us, any of us would give of a testicle to have that guy play with our franchise. He is, uh, he's incredible. I do feel like we're getting Jordan, like for those 2 years that the Pistons just beat up on him. Um, once he unlocks it, man, that whole team was good. I am shocked they did not win more games.

I, again, if I could explain to you how the Knicks won those games, I would, I would work in professional sports. I don't know how they won. It's some, it's the magic. It's the magic magic that keeps the lights on in this place. Yeah, the magic. Hey, I want to hear you say there is magic surrounding this Knicks team.

No, I mean, they won, they won the championship. You guys were the best team this year, Hank.

I want you to say you guys play the young—

you play a super young team that could not close a game.

But do you think, like, that's not magic?

You played a team that was like average age 21 years old, but you're— that had no experience and completely choked every game in the finals. Okay, that's not magic.

Coming back, you 1 coming back. Game 1, Game 2, Game 3, fine. That Game 4 comeback, and then it happens again last night in Game 5. Just to get back on, on you making that joke about the Jets and the Giants thing, Hank, um, being that you're just vibrating hate right now, um, the reason why the Knicks are so special is— I'm sorry to say, I don't even care if I'm offending— nobody's really a Nets fan, you know, like that, that franchise just hasn't caught on yet. You're either a Jets or Giants fan, you're either a Mets or Yankee fan, but everybody's a Knicks fan. Everybody. And that's why it is— there's, there's one team. I drove in here, and New York is a basketball city.

Yeah, that, that's the sport of the city.

And Jose Alvarado's from Brooklyn, and just like, I, I don't know, guys, there's just a magic there. There's just a magic there.

It's just— I'd agree. And listen, I'll be the first. Everyone want to go around the room? I'll start. I think there's a magic surrounding this Knicks team.

PFT. I mean, you can't— you can't argue against that. Yeah. The leads that they came back, it was— it was absolutely— it's like they didn't wake up until they were down 15.

Yeah.

When they were down 15, you're like, they actually have them right where they want.

That's the magic.

Max, I'll say destiny vibes.

Yeah.

Team of destiny.

So, yeah.

Hank, I said—

I said no, no, no magic.

No magic. No magic.

What a fucking Grinch. You're the Grinch who stole the championship, man.

You really are.

Well, this has nothing like you. Like, I don't know. This has nothing got nothing to do with me?

I just admit it was magic.

You just came on here and talked about me. This is—

this is— no, wait, Jerry didn't!

Mr. Bing Bong started because of the fucking Sixers.

No, Mr. Bing Bong started like 2 seasons ago with the Celtics. Oh no, it was the Sixers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

Came on.

Yeah, yeah, but then— but then Mr.

Bing Bong really can you guys beat the Sixers?

Well, no, then Mr. Bing Bong went to college, became doctor.

You didn't even play the Celtics this year.

Also, this is where Master Bing Bong born. Mr. Bing Bong also is very obsessed with Tiffany Gomas.

So Mr. Bing Bong was born at the bet gala when the Knicks beat the Celtics. Oh yeah, yeah. And no one thought the Knicks were going to win, and I actually took the Knicks with the points because I was like, ah, they're never gonna win. And then the Knicks came from behind to beat the Celtics in that game one.

That's how they learned how to win these types of series.

That's a Bing Bong hanky.

That is true. Hank's not listening. My favorite part is how Mr. Bing Bong is obsessed with Tiffany Gomez, but Jerry's not. It's just the character, right?

No, Jerry's obsessed with Tiffany Gomez.

She is a gorgeous girl.

I mean, Tiffany, if you're listening, Hanky, you blew it.

You blew it.

I met her in person. I introduced her to two of my friends in Dallas. We went out and my friends were like, holy shit, who is this? And I didn't tell them like who— what Tiffany was famous for and all that stuff. But it was pretty funny when we went out, um, we all had a couple drinks and Tiffany alluded to something with how Tiffany found her fame And then one of my buddies, he's from Dallas, he's a really funny guy, SWU grad, was like, hold on a second, are you the crazy plane lady? It was just so funny that we were there. And she was like, yeah. And, um, yeah, I mean, it didn't deter them. She was, uh, what a beautiful girl. I, I, I thought it was interesting that, um, I like that story, that my friends didn't know. I didn't like tell them that this was the lady who was made famous for making a scene on a plane and and they didn't know it, and Tiffany sort of wanted to talk about it. I thought that was an interesting story. God, you are so angry on your birthday. Come on, birthday boy, cheer up.

Birthday?

Who cares about your birthday after you're fucking 18 years old?

I mean, birthdays are like important. Like, don't you go to like Baskin-Robbins? You get a free scoop of ice cream or something. Like, you can do whatever you want. You can show your license to get free scoop of ice cream at 31 Flavors. It's your birthday. You're the birthday boy.

Bing bong, you blew it.

Uh, Jerry, what did you think about Hank's, uh, shot at Mr. Ping Pong there about your Stand By Me tour? Which you're— that is why you're here. You have a show in like 45 minutes.

Live show. We're touring, we're selling out, we're selling like thousands of tickets each city. It's so awesome. Go to standbymelive.com. By the way, I have never come on your show and plugged anything.

Sure.

Um, I tell people to like follow me on Yelp. Um, go to standbymelive.com. We go from city to city. Dante's coming tonight. Uh, I think, I think, uh, um, Tate is coming tonight. Um, wow, it's so funny. Oh, Hank, we show Stand By Me, which for a lot of your young listeners was a really classic movie that I was a part of when I was a kid, and it's really quite touching. Let's hear Hank make a negative snide remark.

It's a good black and white film. It's classic. It's a classic.

A lot of our co-stars passed away, and our director has passed away from a grisly murder. Any jokes you want to make about that, Hank? So we're going on to— that's what I thought. Shut the fuck up, Hank. God, Hank, you know, I came in here, I thought this was gonna be fun, and you just fucking riled me up immediately. Anyway, we're going on tour. We showed the movie, we have a talkback with the cast. It's really emotional and sweet and fun, and we have a really fun time. And go to standbymelive.com. We got 5 more dates coming up in the fall. Love it. And it's great. And we're in Chicago for the night. And if you guys are done— well, no, you, you already missed the show. I actually got to run over.

Uh, all right, Roback question.

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Uh, Hank, why don't you get the last question? Because you thought— I said to Hank before when, when we stepped in the studio, I said, hey, you're gonna sit on the couch and Zach's not here yet, they're coming back from San Antonio. I said, hey, Hey, Hank, you'll do the rowback question with Windy. Uh, and he's like, okay, I got it, because Wind Horse was definitely going to come on tonight.

Oh, let me just say, what— speaking of horse, I want to say one last thing.

Yeah, this is before our time, before any of us was—

were born. I love horse racing. There was a racehorse named Secretariat. We're all familiar with it.

Steroids.

Okay, we don't know that because there was no testing back then, but Secretariat it was known and such a fun horse because it came, it just came, came from behind. Another horse, Phar Lap. They came from behind. They like to let the pack go out and then in the final stretch, boom, they would win that thing. That's what the Knicks are. They're like a t— they're like a horse that loves to watch the pack go out and go, okay, and now I'm gonna win. And I feed off of the crowd and I, I I feed off of all of it. I want to say something else about MSG, and this is going to really upset Hank. Um, a friend of mine who was there, a good buddy of mine, Justin Christian, I'll give him a shout out, childhood friend of mine. It's also fun too, because when your hometown team wins, these are my friends from third grade that are calling me up.

We're talking for an hour and a half last night about this.

I haven't seen this guy in 40 years. We're talking on the phone, twirling the phone cord around our fingers, uh, talking about how special this was.

He was at a phone cord.

He was at Game 4. Yeah, I got, I got a hardline. Shut the fuck up, Hank.

I got—

that's crazy. I got a landline. Shut the fuck up, Hank. Um, Justin, my buddy Justin, was in MSG for, for Game 4.

A landline connected to an actual, like, wall. Yeah, say it again, Jerry.

Shut the fuck up, Hank. Um, and Justin said to me, I was in that— I was in MSG for Game 4 He said MSG won that game for them. They— when Wemby went to the line and he shot those two shots, he said, I'm telling you, MSG got in his young mind. Yeah, MSG got in his head. He missed those shots. This is— everyone contributed, everyone, even the OG Tip.

Just like, do it differently, just a tip. Let me— I want to see what it feels like. Tiffany, oh. Oh, don't look at me, Tiffany.

Don't look at me.

Oh God, I'm gonna make a hole in your wall. This one's crazy.

He's gone far.

Sorry, rollback question. Rollback.com.

All right, Hank, your rollback question.

I'll just ask the question.

Shut the fuck up, Hank. Bing bong!

Go ahead, Hank.

Sorry.

There's been, there's been 8 different NBA champions last 8 years. Who do you think has got the best chance to win the next one?

I got to tell you, great question.

Great question. Great question.

Great question, Hank.

I would have said the Spurs at the beginning of this series.

That's irrelevant to the question.

I would have said the Spurs at the beginning of this. Not at the beginning of this series. No, at the beginning of this championship series. Yeah.

No, but he's saying this— he, he thought the Spurs could win this one, and they did.

But after watching— after watching the Knicks, yeah, after watching the Knicks, they have that thing that I can't explain to my daughter what it is. Think of a team where you can't explain— think, think of the Patriots when they came back 28-3. Can you explain how that happened? Can you explain how the Patriots beat the Seahawks? Bucks? Can you explain it, Hank?

You're about cheating by—

by—

no, guys, taping their defense ahead of time.

Come on, seriously, how, how did, how did the Patriots win those games? Can you explain it?

Belief. They believed.

Don't you think there's a magic to that team, Hank? A special something that is just indescribable? It's like looking at Jaylen.

Yeah, but those teams that they had, they won multiple. It's like if they can do it again, like if this happens again in a couple of years, like then maybe there's something with this team right now.

You know what you got to do, Hank?

8 teams have won championships last 8 years. They're no different.

You know what you got to do, Hank? You got to believe.

Mm-hmm. He's right.

Got to believe.

You got to believe. Do you believe? Do you believe in God?

Sure. Yeah. Fuck yeah.

That's a beautiful, beautiful message.

Give me a hug, Hanky.

Come on.

Oh, it's great to see you, Jerry. I'm so happy that this worked out.

By the way, Hank's wearing blue.

He's wearing Knicks blue.

You look so tan, Jerry.

Yeah, I was, um, I was walking around, uh—

you get spray tans?

No, I don't.

I swear to God, never.

No, I don't. I swear to you, I don't. Um, I've been swimming a lot, swimming in LA, like outside.

Oh nice.

I swear. And my face is red just because I'm like Mr. Bing Bong. It's so excited. And just, man, it's— I'm just, I'm just living in this moment because I know for the next 50 years I'm not going to come in here. I'm certainly not going to come in with a Jets victory Um, it's just, we also don't know how to re— it's so funny watching Jalen in that, in that interview that he had with, um, uh, was it Lisa Salters, uh, when he came off the court, like right there, and he was like, I have no words, I have no words. Um, I, I have no words. Like, you can't put it into words. Can you imagine doing it and your father's like a coach there as well? Like, could you imagine this? You, you gotta admit that was pretty emo when he hugged his dad and stuff. Did you feel anything in your cold, dark heart?

Yes, it's cool. Jerry's got no—

it was really cool.

It was a cool moment.

All right guys, I gotta go do a live show.

Uh, good luck, Jerry. We'll see you next. We'll see you in Barcelona, right?

Oh, Camp Barstool.

Yeah, yeah.

And, uh, also we should say right now, thank you very much.

Jerry is working on, uh, parts of our audiobook. Oh yeah, get excited.

Can I buy the—

go buy part of my book. It's out. You can preorder it right now.

I can talk about this because you can cut out whatever I want.

Okay.

Yep.

Let me just say this about part of my book. Okay. It is incredible. The interviews that you got for this book are incredible and make me laugh so fucking hard. You can cut this out. It's your podcast. That Mike Florio interview is Crazy. That Adam Schefter interview is crazy. That, um, Chris Berman interview is crazy.

That TJ Watt interview is crazy.

They're crazy enough. And, and I want to say, Hank, be nice. And, and I want to say, I'm really honored and privileged that you guys are letting me be a part of this book. You— I don't even think you guys know what I'm doing in the booth?

No, I don't. We don't know. All I know is that occasionally we'll get a text from Jared, it'll be a picture of him, and I think you're wearing like a different uniform. Yeah, depending on who— on what chapter you're doing.

You can't see, it's audiobook.

Wearing, wearing a Jaden— I know, but I'm wearing it for you guys.

Are you method?

I'm just doing it to be— honestly, I'm thinking about what you guys built here. I'm thinking about the AWLs. I want to be in spirit. It's not just a job. You know, I gotta say, this podcast, and Hank, I'm gonna put my arm around you when I say this. This podcast, when I go to San Antonio and I'm in, you know, a lightweight collared Knicks shirt, people in Spurs gear say, you know, Bing Bong Hankey, Hankey blew it, Tiffany's, Tiffany's.

Oh, he's taking the arm off.

Hey, Hanky blew it, but I was leaving the Frost Center arena, couldn't get an Uber. Uh, no offense to San Antonio, it's a great city, but leaving that arena is not great. Yep, not easy. Couldn't get an Uber, couldn't get out of there, just started walking with the crowds.

Okay, wow.

A large pickup truck pulled up alongside of me, window rolled down, guy in full Spurs gear said, Bing bong, Hanky, hop in the car, let's talk AFC East. And I hopped in and he drove me to my fucking hotel. And it's just AOLs, it's just, it's just different, guys. I'm, I, I mean, AWLs. AWLs, it's just, it, it's just different. So when I'm doing this audiobook, I'm really, I'm in spirit and I'm doing something really special. And I can't wait for the AWLs to hear hear it. I can't wait for you, you all to hear it. I'm doing something, I'm doing a little something something. It's really special.

I love it. All right, Jerry, you got to get going. We love you. Thank you, Mr. Bing Bong.

Hugs, Hank.

Come on, come on. Happy birthday, Hank.

I can't believe it.

I'm gonna be on Long Island this summer if you want to come out and play Montauk Downs.

It's a good course.

I'll come. It's a public course, so give me a couple days so I can go wait in line and sign this up. But no, but I'm serious, I'll get us a good tee time and everything. But I'd love to play with you. I really enjoyed playing golf with Hank.

He was a lot of fun. And you're a good sport for, for taking the sack.

You've got a lot more championships than the Knicks. Like, let us have our day. We get one day.

Yeah. But also happy birthday.

Happy birthday. Oh, happy birthday.

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Shout out the union. Oh, God. Yeah.

Wait, hold on. Hold on.

Let's turn the mics down.

Let's turn the mics down.

I'm not—

look, this is fine.

That's pretty. Yeah, that's good.

That's— it's actually better than our cow.

It's a great crank.

Yeah, it's a great crank.

You want me to crank it a little bit harder than that?

They also sent me a very funny note that said, hopefully this makes you care about us a little bit.

Yep.

That's all they need.

Yeah.

No, it does. I now do care a little bit about the union. I'll say this.

That's like 10% crank, by the way. I'm 10% crank.

The Union jerseys are pretty fucking cool.

Really cool.

They're like the Constitution.

They sent me— they also sent me a 99 Meatballs jersey. So I'm just— I'm just collecting. I'm collecting meatball jerseys.

All right. Numbers.

27.

What's that?

Next year.

27 rings.

13. Um, actually 19. 50. 6 13.

Oh, good one.

I'll go 20.

98.

You go 95.

53.

Happy Mount Rushmore season, guys. Oh yeah.

Mount Rushmore is going to officially— 78, 78, 78, 78. Let's do one more.

78.

60, 60, 60. All right, so Mount Rushmore season, we're going to, uh, it's gonna officially kick off on Monday, so a week from today. In the next 2 episodes, we're going to pick teams and pick punishments. So, but the official, official start about Rushmore season is going to be one week from today because we got—

we have—

I mean, we have US Open this week. We got World Cup.

So we're going to—

we're going to— we're going to give it a little bit. We always do that. We always give it a few days, few shows before, you know, after the NBA Finals and NHL Stanley Cup Finals. So Monday, official Mount Rushmore season. We'll pick teams maybe Wednesday.

I'm very excited for this Mount Rushmore season. I feel like I've been training all offseason. I know Hank and I have had some battles the last couple of years to see who brings up the rear.

The Milkshake Boys had a bad showing.

We're going—

disagree.

We're going straight to the top. Who's we? Like, whoever's teamed up with me. Oh, we—

the—

my—

we—

what do you mean disagree? You had the least amount of votes.

I don't worry about what the people say.

Okay, well, that's Mount Rushmore season, but yeah.

Yeah, you pander.

But you do worry about what people say because you get mad every year when people don't agree with you.

Nah, that's not why I get mad.

Oh, Jerome Bettis.

That was a good pick. It's also Max's pick.

That was my pick. I don't— I don't listen.

Yeah, well, you guys are old.

You guys should run it back. You guys made a great team.

We're going to— it's going to be by chance.

You did have a great team.

I agree. It's going to be by chance.

You don't sound like you agree.

No, I didn't. But we'll see.

I'll see.

I'll see how—

what you—

what you pull off this time.

What do you mean?

I'm just excited to see what the bottom line is.

Memes is going to win because he's a winner.

Yeah. I look forward to working with you, Hank.

Oh, you're not going to— it's— I'm interested to see how you—

how you—

how you pull this one off.

Off.

I did throw out the idea of memes and Hank.

Yeah, well, it's not going to be chance. You're going to pick the teams.

No, we're going to do it by the lottery ball machine.

Although it would have been funny if we did Booth versus Big Cat.

Yeah, that idea would have been— you did not like that idea.

I said I was down for it.

Yeah, we gotta go by chance.

We gotta go by chance. Hank versus the world would have been awesome.

I literally said was down.

Yeah, your body language said differently.

You can't exist. Can't exist.

This is a case. I can speak words, but it doesn't matter. You guys decide how I feel, what I say, what I don't say.

So I agree. That's true. You can't— that was— that's on me. Hand up. Hank can't exist.

Hank hung up the headphones. That's how you know it's serious.

I don't think I've seen that.

Hank's never pulled that move before. No, no, PFT, that's body language. Stop. Yeah, stop it.

You got to do birthdays. Happy birthday to, to Cooper Kupp. Happy birthday to Wade Boggs. Happy birthday, Northwest. Happy birthday to Dusty Baker and Xi Jinping. Also on Tuesday, it's the one time Don's birthday. So happy birthday, Donnie, on Tuesday. Also happy birthday to Phil Mickelson. I hope everything's okay, buddy.

Oh, how about Phil Tracker? Yeah, Phil Tracker.

Phil Tracker. Tough day for the trackers.

I'll defend him no matter what.

You know what? But listen, to a certain— if you're going to be a tracker, that's the mentality I want you to have. But I'm saying, like, I don't— I don't want my trackers, you know, diving into that slippery slope argument where you look at morality. You know, you're a tracker. Just the facts.

I'm just saying the job description for like a Sam Burns tracker versus a Phil Mickelson and Tracker, they're not the same. No, those are not the same. Those guys are not doing the same.

They—

when they clock in, they're doing completely different jobs.

Yeah. Also, Siwoo Kim Tracker. You're never going to have that problem if you're a Siwoo Kim Tracker.

You're allowed to complain about homework too.

Yeah.

Yes, yes, yes.

So happy birthday to Phil on Tuesday. Also, happy belated birthday to Hank Lockwood, whose birthday was on Saturday.

What about Donald Trump?

The day that the New York Knicks won the national championship. Championship in basketball, NBA title.

Also, happy Memes Day.

Happy Memes Day.

Finally a winner, guys.

You did it.

Memes did it. Hank can't hear any of this. No longer angry.

It's beautiful. You can't be angry with us for a long time ever.

Yeah, I'm chilling.

I don't believe that.

Can't— there's nothing that could hurt me.

Yeah.

Okay.

I'm just better than all of you. You say love you guys?

You should watch the highlights of the song.

Did you say love you guys?

It's a fun team. Love you guys.

Did you say love you guys?

Love you guys.