Transcript of Sandra Bullock

Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. Boy, we are excited about our guest today. She's a gigantic movie star and an incredible talent, and it's the one, the only, Sandra Bullock. Sandy Bullock is here today, and we talk about so many things. We're gonna get into it. We're gonna talk about, um, her love of physical comedy. We're gonna find out her favorite German word, and I'm gonna try to guess what it means. We're gonna talk about, uh, what a nightmare it is to stand next to Nicole Kidman on a red carpet, and we are gonna talk about ...about her new movie, Practical Magic 2, out this week. It is great. Check it out. She is incredible. We are lucky to have her. And we always do this at the beginning of our episodes. We talk well behind our guest's back, and we find somebody who knows our guest and wants to give me a question to ask them. So, we are joined today by 2 of her co-stars from Practical Magic who play her daughters in the film, and great, incredibly talented actresses in their own right, Joey King...

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Get up, what do you say? I know you're the one who wants a really good hey.

OMG, look at who I'm getting to talk to. Double trouble right over here.

Someone just rang my doorbell.

Wait, someone's at your door. Wait, take us with you.

Who is it?

My husband's answering.

You know what I think? I think it's part of his anniversary present I got him just arrived right at this moment.

Oh my gosh, what did you get him? Tell us. We won't tell anyone.

I got— because it's our 3-year wedding anniversary. He's right over there. You're going to hear what I got. It's fine. Just go in the other room.

We go la la la la la.

I got him 3 years of leather. So I got him a really nice leather carry-on like that.

And someone's delivering it to the house? That's, that's fancy.

Well, well, I got it shipped because—

Okay.

Okay. So it's just, it's someone who shipped it. Okay. Got it. I thought it was like a white glove service where like a butler is delivering a leather case.

I want my bag to have a butler.

Okay.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry if we ruined the surprise, but that was exciting. We get excited when somebody rings it. I mean, who—

Sorry, someone rang the doorbell.

But who rings a doorbell anymore? Like, there's no— like, we had this happen on, on the show when, when we were with Rachel Dratch.

Yes!

Amy, we know, girl. We've seen it.

Oh my God, the best.

That clip comes up on my feed all the time, and I watch it just— I watch it full through every time I see it.

Joey King, Maisie Williams, I just want to say, I love and have watched everything you guys have done. When I saw that you were in Practical Magic 2, when I saw that you were the daughters in the film, I was like, OK, OK, we're going heavy hitter here. We've got a 4-top, a real heavy 4-top with Nicole and Sandy and you two. I'm like, incredible.

Oh my God.

Also, you're crushing it on TikTok.

We love making TikToks.

We really do.

TikToks are so good.

Oh my God, it makes me so like, I feel I'm like blushing that you watch them.

Now, Joey, you've been, you've been on TikTok for a minute.

Me? Yeah, I've been, I've been there.

Been there a while.

You were there before COVID I believe, which is the birth.

My sister got me on TikTok. I remember to promote one of the Kissing Booth movies, she was like, you've got to get on TikTok and start dancing. And I was like, all right, soldier, whatever you say.

Yep.

And now here we are. I feel like I've been watching you guys do press for this movie, and it's been very cool to watch not only, like I've said, very talented women get to do something very special together. But it does feel like you have all really enjoyed working together.

Yeah, it was so much fun. It was— it's kind of crazy. It was a year ago to the date that we finished, I think. Right, Joey?

You're right.

Yeah, it was so— we spent the whole summer together. It was beautiful. And then doing all this press together has just been like such a dream. Just a lot of giggling, actually.

Yeah.

So much giggling. Maisie's like my favorite woman ever. So this has just been the greatest joy to make such a close friend through this film that's all about sisterhood. Every time, they always are like, what spell would you cast in press if you could cast one spell? And my answer every time is like, I just want Maisie to live closer to me.

That would be so nice, living in LA together, hanging out.

We were literally in the waiting room to come on here, and we're just texting. We just can't stop. We can't stop communicating.

Maisie, play your cards right and a leather briefcase will be hand-delivered to your door in just a few years. Okay, so we're talking— I am talking to Sandra Bullock today, whom I, I really don't think I have met.

Okay.

Yeah, I mean, I am of the age where I— we may have met, and, and I forget. But I don't think so. We've never really properly met. What was your first experience meeting Sandy? And what do you love about working with her? And should I call her Sandy right away?

I feel like yes. Okay, you should just rock straight in with Sandy. Okay. I feel like she'd love it. And she always introduced herself that way. I met her, she immediately offered me some Haribo, I think, which just like broke the ice, which was lovely. And it was at the read-through.

Just to be clear, that's a gummy bear.

Yes.

A gummy bear.

Got it.

Right. Yeah.

Important to make that distinction. Yes.

Yeah. And she texts us immediately. It's your mother here.

Like how she gets—

mother, mother, mother.

It's your mother.

It was your mother.

And she just like, ever since, it's just been Like a mother to us on set. It's been so special. We went for a little sleepover at her house. It was cool.

Wait, tell us. Say more about that. What do you mean? Before you started shooting, you did?

No, it was like after a night shoot. After the night— after a night shoot, we went there and we had little cocktails at like 6:00 in the morning and then stayed over in her little cottage. And then the next day we got to go in the hot tub. We raided her fridge and ate all her food.

She had to go to work.

She left us in the house. And then we just ate and sat on the sofa, watched YouTube.

It was nice. It was so nice. I mean, she's just the best. She's such a nurturing spirit. She's one of those people who, you know, she says that she'll always be there for you, and she really means it. She'll answer the call anytime, any day. I've texted her in distress before being like, I need your advice on something, and she's like, calling now. And that's just such a— she's such a— She's such a girl's girl, and also just like, I don't know, she's just— I'm so amazed by her and everything she's been through, and she handles herself with so much grace and elegance. And I just— and she's just so hot too.

I know.

She's so hot.

She's so hot. It's hard to ask somebody, like, why are you so hot? I think you have to. That'll be my first question.

Why are you so hot?

Why are you so hot? No, but she has this thing I mean, we've been like, you know, we get ready for our guests, and we're like reviewing their body of work. And her body of work is so diverse. It's incredible. She has been in a space movie that has made a gazillion dollars. She has done like really deep, intense drama. She's done horror. She's done incredible physical comedy. She's done hugely successful romantic comedies. She's done— she can do it all. How does she like to work? And what was it like working with her in this film?

I mean, I love watching her. She— She's almost like tinker— like, especially if it's like a physical comedy scene, like she's really building it. She'll get to set early, like she'll rehearse on her own. She'll like block with supporting artists and like she'll build it and build it and build it. And each take she like adds something more. But it's like she's constantly finessing one idea and it's like so amazing to watch. And it's like really nice to watch someone doing something that seems so off the cuff and so natural, but they're like, and they've thought about it a lot and they know what props they want to have. And they— and like, I just— I liked to see that on set. Like, it was a peek behind the curtain because everything she does is so funny and it seems so natural and seems just so in the moment. But like, it takes a lot of work for her to do something that she's like really happy with. And we got to watch that time and time and time again on this movie.

She's also just a really great, generous actor too. Like, there was just some stuff where we had where it was like really emotional for either me or Nicole. And the way that she would support us when it was our turn to have a really tough moment or a big moment was so just beautiful. And it's inspiring and so special because she takes her job so seriously, and she also takes making sure others experience a good job too so seriously.

I ask— the people that I have the pleasure to Zoom with if they have a question for my guest. And I was curious if you think there's anything I should ask her today on your behalf.

I think she's got such— there's such a lack of vanity to the way that she approaches physical comedy. And I think it's really— I get very self-conscious on set. And I know that there are times in her life where she feels self-conscious, but it's never in front of the camera. It always seems like it's never in front of the camera. camera. And I just, like, has that always been just instinctive? Or is that something that she's, like, crafted? Like, if she's feeling self-conscious, how does she get out of it? Like, I just really, I really want to know how she battles that.

I love that question, Maisie. I think that's such a good question.

Okay, and what's yours, Joey?

My question for Sandra is, I want to know when the last time she just quietly thought to herself, Does it get any better than this? Like, what's the last moment she had that was so, does it get any better than this?

Oh, that's such a beautiful question. And it's gonna also help her get back to that moment. That's a really generous question.

I'm excited to watch the episode 'cause I'm excited to, like, see where she goes mentally with where she arrives. I think that'll be special.

Oh, that's a great question. You guys are so smart and talented. And the future. You're the future. So we're in really good hands.

And I've always said that.

And we all know that the future looks incredible. And there's nothing to worry about.

Yeah, literally, it's perfect. Future's perfect in our hands.

Come on.

Well, thank you so much for your time. I know she'll be thrilled that I talked to you both. And I bet she's got the warmest things to say right back to you. So thank you guys so much for doing this.

Oh, we love you, Amy. Thank you for having us.

Thank you so much for having us. Thank you so much.

It's such a pleasure to meet you both. I hope to get you in the 'stude.

Yes.

Meet me with love.

Great.

Me too.

Okay.

Bye.

Bye.

Bye.

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Yes, we did.

I'm very, very excited. Thank you for— I know you're in the middle of a lot of talking.

I am. I am super excited because I'm excited to be in the company of your brain. Truly.

Same. And your sweater says shenanigans.

It's from the film. It's something Aunt Jett says.

And let's start there.

Okay.

Because when I was thinking about how to start this interview, which I've been very excited for, We were just talking about the fact that you really can do so many things well, and how tiring it must be to be good at so many things.

You know, it is.

You're like— you're a physical comedian. You're an incredibly successful producer. You can do really deep, meaningful things, big and small. You've been in huge hits. You've been in small—

And stinkers. I've been in huge hits and then some that have crashed.

You've been in huge hits. You've been in things people don't choose to see.

Don't like.

Yeah. Yeah. And you've withstood that.

Yes.

Did I?

But you are, to me, you have what Lucille Ball has. You have what Carol Burnett has. You have like a physicality. You have timing. What did you guys laugh at in your family when you were little? Because you have, you have really interesting creative parents.

Really interesting parents. Had. They're dead. So they're up here. My mother was German. Right.

So right there.

What is she laughing at?

Not funny.

Really did not have a sense of humor.

Which actually makes you want to challenge that on a daily basis.

Yeah.

My father was from Birmingham, Alabama. English-Irish-French, you know, like storyteller from the South. So he had a rhythm of his own. But I really think I got it from trying to break my mother. Make her laugh. 'Cause she was trying to break me. Yeah, by making her laugh. And it was always when I hurt myself, when I fell. So, which kind of goes She would laugh hard when you'd tell it. She would laugh so hard. And I went— my mother didn't laugh a lot. So to get joy out of her was everything. My dad, I had in the pocket. But my mother really was someone that I knew wanted to laugh and needed it. But when I finally found it, it was like— it was my little ace in the pocket. She was a tough audience.

Was there any American stuff that she laughed at, that she liked when you were younger? Do you remember her laughing at anything? Or any— liking any pop culture American TV?

We didn't really have a lot of TV in the house. Like, we didn't have magazines. When I lived overseas, we watched foreign films. And, you know, I would always gravitate to the ones that had a physicality so you could understand it. But no, my mother was an artist. She was an opera singer. And it was very serious.

I mean, I'm incredibly intrigued by this.

She was extraordinary. And I notice that now more than ever being a mom and seeing her practice her craft, which was incredibly annoying to me. Yeah, it was annoying. It was loud.

Yeah.

And it was in the basement of our house and it would permeate the whole neighborhood as we're playing like kickball outside. You hear her vocalizing and you're just like—

You have very good posture.

I'm trying.

Did she have really good posture?

Yes. Yeah, she was—

Breath control and all that stuff.

All of it from the diaphragm. She was— she was— so she was She was— she practiced a high art. So did my father.

Yeah.

But he just had that Southern thing that was more relaxed, but also to control the room and put the remedies. She had no desire to put the remedies.

Incredible.

None whatsoever.

I'm always fascinated by the people that can stay quiet and that don't feel the need to change the temperature in the room. It's fascinating to me. It's like such a power move.

It is. It's funny that you bring that up because today I had that very conversation with my sister. I was like, I am so tired of hearing myself talk.

Oh, babe.

And she goes— I'm like— and it's also the press junket. I feel like I'm here to just share and do whatever. But she says, you know, it's also your undiagnosed ADHD and your trauma response. I went, okay.

You're like, wow, you read for Phil.

Thank you so much.

But has this ever happened to you where you're on a conference call And you're accidentally on mute and you, you're talking, but you're on mute. And then you get off mute and you realize like, I've actually just been the most powerful I've ever been by not talking.

Yes.

By pausing for more than 10 seconds. But I never do that. I have to work at it.

Okay.

We were talking about, we were talking about your German mom, but we're talking about opera. I, your relationship to music is really interesting to me. I've learned that about knowing you, not only like Like, you know, as a producer, you're picking music for the projects you make. There's really good needle drops that are in films that you make because of you. But you sang opera.

No, I did not. You didn't?

Are you a singer?

Not even close. Okay.

Not even—

no, I'm not one of those who says, oh, I can't sing, and then I'll be in, like, the car, and I'll belt something out, and they're like, you've got a great voice.

Okay. You know you don't have a good voice.

I should not be singing. But what I have is great rhythm.

Yeah, I see that.

Timing.

Timing.

Timing.

So, but you sang with your parents, were you not? In operas?

Yes, I was in the back.

You were in the back.

I was in the background. There's always like some filthy child stealing money and coins off the floor. That was me.

That was me.

And so do you feel— did your mom want you to be a singer? Did she ever want you—

No.

No. She knew.

Look, there could only be— she knew. There was only one her.

Mm-hmm.

And she was, she was of the highest order of talent. She just, she was the one. I was the jokester. I found my way to sort of level the vibe anywhere was through that. So she knew, of course, at some point I would be that. I was in theater and I did things like that. I didn't even attempt to sing.

I am going to my first opera very soon. I've never been.

Which one are you going to?

George Saunders. They're doing an opera based on his book Lincoln in the Bardo at the Met.

Really?

I'm thrilled. But my question for you is, what— like, what should I prepare for? 'Cause have you— I'm assuming you've been to many.

Yes. And it's amazing how no matter what the language, when it's good, you understand it all. And it's the profundity of the performances and the set deck and the— it's grand. It's always grand. And I remember as a kid, I would be in the back of the car, and my mother would always test me. Like, she would play something. She goes, what does that make you feel? I would lean in, I would say, this feels like someone's losing someone, or they're looking for someone who's dead. You know, like, you could feel it when it's good. When it's bad, it's bad.

Yeah.

I think you're at the Met, you're probably gonna be just fine, and it's gonna be amazing. I think you're gonna be okay.

What a cool thing for your mom to do to test you on what are you feeling when you hear this.

What are you feeling? I mean, we would go to Italy for the operas, just sit on the stone steps with our little ice cream and just watch the animals come on stage. And, you know, it was just— It was just beautiful. It was really beautiful.

And speaking of German, what— can you tell me your favorite German word? And I'm going to try to guess what it means.

It's, it's, um, Scheißkopf.

Say again, please.

Scheißkopf.

Scheißkopf. I'm gonna say that is, um, the feeling that you get when you win an argument.

You're very close because the word would probably be used in the argument is you, right before the mic drop moment. Oh my God.

Chills. I speak German now.

Do you want to know what it means?

Oh yeah. What does it mean? Sorry.

It means shithead. It's what my mother would teach all the boyfriends who were like, would you like me to teach you some German? And they were like, yes, Ms. Bullock, I really would. And then she'd give them, you know, shithead. So she— maybe she did have a tiny sense of humor.

That sounds pretty funny.

It does sound pretty funny.

She sounds like a trickster.

She—

you know what? She is. She just didn't know it at the time of her life. It came to her later on.

Well, I mean, I— you— everybody needs a straight man, and it feels like your mom provided that.

Yeah.

Um, the— you know, there's a million journeys to get to being on screen, and like, you know, you, you're performing, you're acting, you move to New York, You study at Meisner, which is—

Well, I studied in college. The teacher that came to the region—

What college were you at then?

East Carolina University. Only because my best friend in high school had an application. My dad really wanted me to go to a school of the arts, the top 10. I was not getting into any of them. I auditioned for one. It was very unfortunate.

Do you remember what you auditioned with?

I don't recall. It's that traumatic.

That's good.

Yes.

I remember the smell of the room. The smell of fear.

I remember the flop sweat.

Oh, it was, it was this austere white room. I was like, I'm not supposed to be here. I'm not— I wasn't— I was pretty oddly shy as a kid because we traveled back and forth, and I had a lisp. And my lisp still kind of comes out when I'm like— on this press tour, my lisp has come out.

When you're tired or talking to your family or something?

Yeah. And I didn't really notice I had one until a few years ago. I was working, my co-star was like, you have a lisp. But I was like, fuck her.

You were like, stop paying attention.

Stop it. Stop and talk.

Why are you looking at my mouth? Yeah, you worry about yourself.

But I didn't— I wasn't baked. I wasn't mature enough. I was very sheltered, so I could never have made it in any of those environments. I did not have the confidence.

Did you like studying all like that Meisner technique?

Very much.

So for people who don't know what Meisner technique is, it's kind of cool.

What—

how would you explain it?

Premise is being truthful in imaginary circumstances. So I wasn't comfortable when they would say, lay on the floor and you're You're gonna fry like bacon. And I was like, I'll never be cast as that. This will never— it felt artificial to me. It didn't— but Meisner, they give you a piece. Um, started off with, you know, these soliloquies in a book. You had to go and do an emotional preparation as if going, okay, this never happened to you, but prepare as closely as you can to the emotion and the feeling of getting to this. What would make you feel like this?

Mm.

And it gave you a tool outside of, yourself, that made sense, at least for me, made sense to hang on. And also listening.

Yeah.

Which we're probably not very good at because we like, we like to, you know.

You know what? I'm good at it.

You are?

And so are you. I've seen it. Active listening. You're very good at it. And I am too.

It's learned. It's— but not always. Not always.

But can't you tell very quickly when you're with someone who's not listening? And there's like, there's no lonelier feeling.

Yeah.

When you can tell when you're talking and you can tell that someone's dead behind the eyes.

It kind of makes me sad.

Makes me sad too.

Makes me really sad.

And I—

maybe it's co— maybe it's a little codependency. Maybe it's like a little bit of making sure I'm staying connected. But I, I, I think I, I think you can still be a good listener while you're talking.

Yes.

Or while—

if you're— if you consider yourself a talker.

Yes. And if you've done enough therapy too, you've learned that, you know, it, it requires you to just stop.

Yeah.

And And that, all of that, it's all of that together in a pile. And I got very lucky that this teacher came in to teach the Meisner technique. And it was always the girls in class who could cry on the spot. And I'm like, oh, they're such brilliant actors. She can cry. You know, never could get there.

No tears?

No, I can't unless I feel it. What, you don't like the tears?

I have a whole thing about tears.

Explain.

Well, I think that tears Tears, to your point, are very effective. But people, just like being flexible, people can sometimes— are just good at tears. Like they were just born being good at tears.

And keeping them, like, perched right there, and then it just— when I cry, it's the square mouth. It's like things tilt, it implodes, and there's nothing cinematic about it.

I heard that Elisabeth Moss, I don't know if this is true, Elisabeth, write in, call in, that she can pick what eye she's gonna cry out of.

Stop!

That's what I heard. Isn't that— isn't that an incredible rumor?

Lizzie, call us.

Lizzie, call us. Because she's so good at crying. The people that are able to go blink and drop a tear.

I'm sort of like, I'm having a little FOMO, like right now. I wish I had.

But I think it's like being able to touch your toes or something. Like either have it or you don't. I mean, I can do that. Well, not all of us can, Sandy.

Well, have you been practicing? It requires practice.

I tried to touch my toes with John Cena when he was in here, and he was—

Way to go.

That's not a euphemism. How dare you? And he touched his toes so well.

He touched his toes?

Palms to the floor.

I can see that.

Are you that flexible? Can you do that? Damn it. But I practice.

I practice. I practice.

Okay. Speed. Okay. So then you auditioned.

Then you auditioned for Speed.

No.

Where I had to be flexible.

Yeah, you probably did have to be flexible in Speed. You've talked about this before, but I'm really— those early days of walking into rooms, trying things, like you were saying, not being fully cooked, but feeling excited about stuff, knowing that you had the passion, but maybe not the experience yet, but going for it, those swings, feels like really paid off with Speed. You were able to meet the moment of that movie with the enthusiasm that that character needed. And that audition process, I've read about it, read about it and read about you talking about it, but it sounds really funny and fun.

It's in retrospect, right? But again, it was again, like the audition for the school I didn't get into. Yeah, there's lots of schvitzing. And just, you're outside of your body. And I think from New York, I was, I was a waitress. Every Thursday, I got the Backstage magazine, I pounded the pavement, you went to your little auditions with your Your headshot, and you just had to do it. So I was comfortable just doing it.

Yeah. Did you have to pretend you were on a bus when you were auditioning?

I was on a folding chair, and they gave me a paper plate.

I think I have to say, you know, we talk about acting a lot on this 'cause I talk to a lot of actors. I think everybody should have to do that once to feel like, you know, you think in life, like, I've felt what it's like to be humiliated.

And you're like, And then they bring in Keanu Reeves, like, when they're in the callback, and you're just like, am I still on the chair with the paper plate?

Yes?

Still the plate? Okay. Okay. Dissociate and driving.

Oh, you did! Did you do a little old-fashioned roll down?

And then I rolled down the window. Went back there, 'cause the bus has all these levers here.

Yeah, adjust the mirror.

The hydraulics. There's all kinds of stuff going on that I was like, Check in the glove compartment. There's no glove compartment in a bus. I mean, I don't know. Is there?

Maybe there's an air freshener. There's a million things you can do. Not in this bus.

Not in this bus. Air freshener.

That movie is so huge. It's huge for you. You and Keanu, lifelong friends. You create this incredible chemistry together.

We didn't create it. It just shows up.

It shows up. You're right. And you have chemistry with so— you are really, really good.

I'm like a skunk. I kind of just spray it. You're like, psst! And whoever's in the line of fire!

Whatever dogs are in the neighborhood start coming in.

That's what people don't realize. You have to, like—

I agree. You gotta turn the channel. You gotta—

But what—

Talk about chemistry for a second, 'cause people love to talk about it. But what was it about you and Keanu that, like, immediately you just felt—

I think with us, we're so different. We're so— He is very— reserved and zen. And as we were saying earlier, give us a silent room and you can watch us spin out. So anytime he's silent, I'm like the whirling dervish around his silence, and he's just waiting for me to wear myself out. He's just patiently waiting.

Yeah.

And then he often doesn't respond to what I say, you know, and then until like maybe a day later when he's thought about it. So it's, it's someone to learn from in terms of what you and I need to work on.

Yeah, the tortoise and the hare kind of thing. Yeah. But you've worked with really, really different leading men.

And they all have— they are good at playing.

Yeah.

They're just like, they're there to volley back. And I think because I am not the femme fatale, I am, I am the tomboy. I am the one that will get in there with the guys. And, you know, I think I think that's why it works for me, because I love being poked. I love being, you know, just be the needle and just trying to get at me, because that's the spark for me, rather than the real sweet stuff, which I just go, it's uninteresting to me. It goes back to timing and women who have that. And I'm just, I can watch you all day long, but your respect and support of your opponent, because it is like a match.

It is.

I'm watching you. A tiny bit competitive in a fun way.

In a fun way. But also, I see you have so much respect for the person opposite you. I feel it. I feel it in you. You wait. Like, even in the bloopers and the outtakes, I see you giving the person grace enough. You're like, am I gonna step in on this one? I'm gonna step in on this one. I see it. And it's a rhythm that just— you feel it here. I feel it here.

And don't you feel— I feel like people have music. Like, they just have a rhythm. And to figure out how to make it work is you have to just kind of get into their song. Totally.

Yeah. Yeah.

And then I think the reason why people like actors or performers or writers or whatever is they just like, like their music. They like their song.

Yeah. It's like when someone says you have good taste, that means you have the taste that I have. You know what I mean? It's like, you have nice taste. This is what I would do. You know, it's—

Yeah, that's so true. Gravity. I want to ask you questions about Gravity. I mean, well—

I love talking about Gravity.

Oh my God. I have, I have so many questions.

Ask away.

Okay.

Because I don't think it— yeah, go ahead.

Now, you were— before we get to Gravity, you know, you won for The Blind Side, Oscar. You've been nominated many times. How many?

No, I haven't been nominated. I've been nominated twice and won once.

Okay, well, that's more than once.

It's like a 50/50. I have 50%, right?

50%. Okay. Several. You've been nominated several times. And you won an Oscar and a Razzie in the same weekend.

Incredible. Yes. Balance.

Balance. Incredible.

And they came and took the Razzie back because I went home with it. And they were like, you can't have this. I was like, yes, I can.

They were like, we only have one?

We only have one.

We had Dakota Johnson on here. Dakota Johnson told a really nice story about a voicemail that she got from you.

She's one of the— she's one of us.

What did you— what did you do when she won her Razzie?

Called her and welcomed her to the club.

What did you win your Razzie for?

All About Steve, a film I did with Bradley Cooper.

And we never heard from him again.

Exactly. He just— he just—

yeah.

But a movie like Gravity, I'm just gonna put out there, is a really big, deep, lots of— it is you by yourself, camera on your face movie. So what was it like to shoot mostly and often by yourself? What did it feel like?

Um, there was so much technology and like in, in, in within the box set. I was literally within the box if I wasn't on the wires. Um, and I wasn't with George. It was music. It was the only relationship I had was to our sound mixer and Alfonso, because the whole stage was black. And so I had earwigs in.

Wow.

And so I said to the sound guy, I said, look, there are these— because it was all rhythmic. My body had to be very slow like Martha Graham. And I kept looking at a dance teacher that I had at ECU who came from Alvin Ailey and taught me how to not throw my body around. He goes, you gotta stop throwing your body around, as he'd throw me up against the wall. And I'd be like, I'm coming back. But I learned how to disconnect the head from the body because the head could speak at normal speed and the body had to move like that. You know, everything had to be what it would be in gravity.

Wow.

As I was looking at a dot, that's George, that's a Soyuz, that's— and the sound mixer had— we chose selections of sounds and music and songs and vibes that, like you said, you start vibing with a project. I was like, this song reminds me of this right here. This makes me feel this moment. You know, what makes me feel in absolute silence? What, you know, what— so I would say, I'm not getting there, play 2, 7, and 5, and then I'll get to— and he just was my life mixer. He would mix it.

Wow.

And just get me to—

Is there any Is there any music that you'd be willing to share that you listened to that you remember?

I don't even remember, but I just remember at the end he gave me this tiny little, you know, what's it called?

Like, you know—

Zip drive or something? Tiny little thing with like a hole where you plug in, you know? And he just handed it to me and I was like, that's my performance.

Wow. That's so cool.

So it tapped into my body because my body had to do these strange zero-G things.

So you were just faking the whole time?

Everything was faking. Like everything. George and I were in the pod and Alfonso was giving us notes and They said, does anyone want a water? And I said, I do. And they handed it to me and I grabbed it. And George goes, you know what you just did, didn't you? And I said, no, I have no idea. He goes, you were like this. Everything was very slow. And I kept talking to Alfonso and I grabbed the water, but my body was so used to having—

That must have somatically been really cool. Like, it must have been peaceful.

It was very peaceful.

Yeah.

Well, it was a humongous hit. Congrats. Didn't do bad. And you had just adopted your son, right?

I did.

Lubert. Yes, Lubert. We called him Lubert T. Jones. That was his name on the— because he was just I had dressed him in these cute little English vests and he had these little hats. He was so cute.

Cutest baby ever.

I mean, he's still cute, but that was super cute. Yeah.

It was just—

it was an amazing experience because for Alfonso and his son, and they wrote it together, it was about his sort of feeling lost and having an existential moment in life of despair. And how do you show that? In space. You go to space.

It was— it's such an incredible movie. Beautiful movie. And your performance is incredible.

Thank you.

And George too.

I mean, it's all just exactly where it needs to be.

Yeah.

And it— like, space films about space, I'll kind of watch anytime. But the feeling of— like, I don't want to go to space, I guess, is what I'm saying.

Nor do I.

Okay, good. Let's not go.

Yeah.

And what was it like working with Cloones?

You know what? I've known Cloones since before he got—

Is that what he likes to be called?

Señor Cloones. He prefers— Amal calls him that now.

He insists.

Señor.

When did you guys first work?

We'd only worked together then, but we first met when he was, you know, on back porches of all their friends, drunk, doing Buddy Hackett imitations. And I'm like, this is before— what was that show he did where he was a doctor? You know, ER, that thing. ER! Yeah.

It's before he got that. The other ER.

The other ER. It's where he was doing all the pilots. He was like George of the pilots before he became—

Wait, did you just say, what is the show where he was the doctor?

Yeah.

You know, The doctor show.

Oh my God. ER.

I know.

I said ER.

You have it on there. I've watched ER 3 times. You know, I've watched the entirety of ER 3 times.

Like recently?

The last time was during COVID Well, it's worth it.

Everyone is stellar. It's stellar.

It's so good.

Yeah, they're just— yeah. So George is a player. He will play and he will bat things back and forth. And he is— he's fun. George is fun.

You guys work great together.

Yeah.

Really great together.

I mean—

We're good in space together. I don't know how we'll do on land, but on space, we're amazing. In space, you're— In space, we're great. There's no one out there that can compete with us in space.

You're like, I'll only work with him in space, and this one, I'll only work with underwater.

Exactly.

But now we're talking about Practical Magic, which you're doing tons of press for. First of all, and I just love— I mean, I know it's weird to talk about the press people are doing, but just watching you and Nicole talk is so nice and relaxing. You guys are such opposites in the best way. Nicole is just kind of on a different channel. And in her— and like in a really—

She's regal.

She is.

She's regal.

And she's also very playful. And so are you, but you play totally differently.

And to see her play is really nice because you don't get to see that a lot. You know, she's— on this one, because what I had to carry wasn't really sexy for a comedian because I was like, I was like, I'm grieving. I'm having issues with my daughter. I'm battling with fear and all that stuff. And then she got the fun role. And I was like, where can I find moments that are appropriate within these dire situations? And we kept, with the writer, writing these fun lines for Nicole. And she didn't want to do— she was like, I don't want to be the comedic sidekick. I'm like, yes, you do.

Yes, you do.

That's what you want. Promise. Promise. And she just took to it. Like, she found her rhythm.

Yeah.

And she's really good at it.

Yeah.

I mean, the friendship you guys have is really cool to watch. I mean, it's very authentic. I know female friendships are very, very important to you. They've, I would imagine, made a difference.

I mean, as they are to you.

Absolutely. What have the women in your life done and the friendships in your life done for you? Everything.

It's like, I don't think I can quantify it because it changes with the seasons. It changes with our changes. It changes with where we are. And where we're not. And you know what? They give me a tremendous amount of grace. They judge. Like, my sister will be like, she's doing that thing again. But my sister will sit there and allow that thing to pass because she knows my history. She knows where it's coming from. Even though she wants to kill me, she's gonna wait it out. Yeah.

That's what I always say about friends is they know you really well and they like you anyway.

Oh, yes.

You know, it's like they really, really know you, and yet they still take your call.

Yeah. And hopefully, I mean, it's really important for me to be a good friend.

What's your conflict style? Do you— are you a retreater?

I'm a mix. I'm a mix. I'm a little sprinkle of— but it also depends on who I'm opposite, what their style is. You know, I know that's sort of the vernacular right now is like, I'm an avoidant, you know, whatever. I am probably a little bit of everything depending on who I'm opposite and how safe I Yeah. Because in what we do, unless it's very close relationships, you don't know who's coming to you with safety and giving you a safe place. So it just depends. But I can read people really well.

I bet.

And I don't always heed my own warning until like 3 beats later. I'm like, I knew it. But, you know, I'm like, I want to give them a shot. I want to, you know, like whatever they're coming at me, maybe it's this, maybe they're having a hard day. And then 3 beats later, I'm like, It's what I thought it was.

Yes.

Yeah, yeah. That instinct of feeling something and listening to it and responding to it, like, that to me is like a lifetime of work, basically. It's like our entire life is to figure out, like, how to shorten the distance between what we sense and what we act on.

But do you—

don't you think that's also being a woman? Like, we, we have, we have a more sensitive meter, I feel. Of course, we're also conditioned in this, you know, social universe that we are not to trust that.

Well, we become experts on other people and we become really, really aware of how people are acting and changing. And to your point, we want— we're like, we're conditioned to give a lot of grace. Like, that's why, like, someone like your mom who's like, I'm gonna be an island and you're gonna have to come to me, is still really fascinating to find in a woman because it's still just And you're like, whoa, she's not saying anything, and she's not pleasing anybody. And she really does not care that people are projecting all this stuff on her. It's fascinating.

Yeah. I mean, the way you're saying that, I'm going, I'm getting to know my mom. You know, like, I feel like I am getting to know my mom as I become more of a mom. You know, even with each day, I'm like, oh, I see why she said that. I see why.

I mean, Practical Magic has a lot of those themes, like beautiful themes about Like, you talked about history, trauma, pain, the idea of protecting the people that you love, the idea of, like, what is a mother's burden and blessing? What does she get to do? What does she have to do? It's so great. And you're playing a witch 30 years later, almost, from when you played it before. And I'm so interested in this idea in general that as women get older, like, there's something that gets very witchy about us.

We've always had it. It is, it's the lag time. Those 3 beats become 1 beat.

Right.

You're no longer, you know, like you're no longer waiting or second-guessing yourself. You go, it just is.

Yeah.

'Cause you've had enough instances in life to prove you correct when you had that feeling. It's called mother's intuition for a really good reason. Women's intuition. Like it's, we are extra sensitive to things and it's both a blessing and a curse. But I think as you get older, you just don't wanna waste time anymore. You know, at least I don't.

The way you speak about the losses that you've had in your life makes people feel very seen and you're very generous about it. And it in many ways reminds me of this idea of like the witchiness that happens to us when we get older, that we're coming in with some pain and some, hopefully some lessons or knowledge from it or whatever. And I really appreciate it as a person listening to you share because I don't know, I can't explain it other than I feel safe in the way that you share because I feel like you're taking care of yourself, which is a big relief for me.

Yes.

If that makes any sense.

It does. And I, I want to take care of you. I want to take care of— you're making me teary, guys, stop. I really want to take care of people's souls, like, or whatever, whoever their person is. I'd never want to be known as someone who violated someone's confidence, that someone, um, gave me a piece of themselves and I was, I was careless with it.

Yeah.

And I think, sure, younger age, I was a dingbat. But because of the things that I've been able to see and feel and experience and get behind the curtain on, um, I feel like it's a secret that I don't want to share from those You deserve to benefit from my experience.

Well, you've spoken beautifully about being a caretaker to Brian, and there's a lot of caretakers listening.

The caretaker world is absolutely underserved. I've been very private since I was a little kid because my mother always thought I was up to something that I wasn't. You know, I really am like, why am I getting blamed for things I didn't do? I just— I'm a guilty— I just look guilty, you know? But I don't want to ever, ever, ever not be Oh God, how do I describe this? I don't— I did what I had to do in the situation I was in. I didn't wanna say anything out of turn on what anyone else experienced within that situation.

Mm-hmm.

'Cause everyone was experiencing something, their own journey with that.

Mm-hmm.

There's so much to the story that would be of service, but my story, my slice of pie, and me and the kids, You know, that's all we can speak about.

Yeah.

You know what I mean? I'd love to say, but, you know, it serves no purpose other than I have the information. I've met so many people whose family members have been diagnosed with ALS or a neurological disorder. I'm like, this is what I know.

What did you learn about yourself when you became a caretaker? What did you— what was a new thing that you learned about yourself?

I am always a caretaker.

Yeah.

Always.

Right.

And I learned that I didn't take care of the person that was taking care of everybody else. And that was a big wake-up call for me.

Yeah.

And I'm not good at asking for help, but I needed help and I needed to ask it in a way that was safe. Thankfully, I had a few angels that stepped forward and was like, this is where the nurses are. This is where the, you know, what did I learn about myself? That I have an incredible sister.

sister.

And she, she, in her worry for me, gave me like an alarm of going, if you do not start taking care of you, something's going to happen to you. And what's going to happen to Lou and Lai? And I was like, you know, Yeah. And that to me, that's, you know, I learned about myself. I have an extraordinary sister. You know, that's the only thing that I know. I'm still developing. I've I mean, coming into a press tour, I was looking at the photos of the London premiere, and I'm like, I'm not a red carpet gal.

Are you out of your mind?

Okay, let me— I'm just gonna— let me just—

Sorry!

Okay. I'm gonna let everyone—

Absolutely not. It's our first fight. You look better than ever.

Let me know when you're done.

Your red carpet is slaying.

Let me know when you're done.

Okay, I'm done.

I agree with you, the outfit.

The outfits slayed. It's not just the outfits.

It was incredible stylists that worked on this that made me feel comfortable in my body. From the neck down, I was so taken care of. The person on the inside, like I said to every— I would start panicking as we would get ready to leave. And I said, you guys are working on the outside in. I'm sitting in my body. I have no idea what you guys are doing.

Yeah.

And I was just like— and then I got on the red carpet and I was like, okay, I've got this. I'm gonna pretend I— which hand should I put here? I'm working. Like, I'm not someone who's like, like, what's up?

Totally.

I mean, I'm not one of those.

Like, it's like, I just—

you know what I mean? It's the finger.

I just had this experience. I just did a photo shoot and I was like, did you do this? I gave myself a pep talk. I'm like, Amy, you get in there and you be the person. You stick your finger in your mouth.

You totally say that.

I was like, just be into it. Yeah, I can't. It's so hard for me. I can't just be like, I'm very, very sexy right now. And you just have to be a little like, who, me? You'd be like, I'm just in the middle of something.

And then there's 2 fingers. Like when someone shoves 2 fingers in their mouth in a photo shoot, badass. I'm like, girl, I wish I would have the whole fist in there if I could.

Okay, I understand. I hear what you mean.

So Warner Brothers goes, we need you to like approve some of these shots so we can get them on social. I'm like, great. Because by the end I was like, I did it. I did a really good job. You know, I loved everything from here to And then I went, what's your face doing? Is it just your—

are your eyes just like—

I was like, why do I have stink face? Because you were like— I'm like, no, worse. I'm like this.

Oh, you look—

look, you had a resting bitch face. Is that what you had?

Like I smelled something. And like, you come like, what happened? That's not what I was feeling.

It was because—

here, here.

You know why? Because you're funny.

Yeah, yeah.

But that's why you—

and then when you're funny on a red carpet, you get this nightmare. You get someone going, could you raise the camera?

It's like a nightmare.

It's a nightmare. We don't belong on a red carpet.

No, we don't. No, but you do.

There should be a— no, there should be a comedy red carpet.

We're not the same.

I think we should advocate for a comedy red carpet.

Unfortunately, that's every red carpet I've ever done is a comedy red carpet where the cameras help us out a little bit. I've said this before. I really, I, I'm really relating because I feel like I, I try my best. Yes. I mean, I try so hard and I get full hair and makeup for hours. And I look at myself in the mirror and I'm like, all right, okay, all right. And I get in the car and I get out there and I'm— and I feel like I'm posing like this. This is how I feel like I'm posing. And I see the picture and it's like, yeah, it is the way—

I so know what you're talking about.

It's like, when did I do that?

Yeah.

When you were authentic.

But, but you're not. That's not the place to be.

No, exactly.

You're right. You can't be authentic. Yeah, we have to stop. We have to just— I agree.

Stop doing what?

Talking, moving.

I agree.

We can't—

you know, there's, there's, there's sort of those who—

Nicole is incredible.

Well, Nicole is a goddess.

And she's everything.

Can we just remove her from anything that we're in? So, like, I'm like, you do you.

I would never want to do the red carpet with Nicole. First of all, I would look—

Do you have empathy for me now? I mean, I need you to do the red carpet.

I mean, I'm 5'7, 5'8. Yeah, 5'7, 5'8. Can you imagine? I mean, I'm— can you imagine me standing next to Nicole? I would look—

I honestly—

All your shots would be like this. I would just be doing some weird—

Yeah, with your hands. So it's not even a dab.

It's not even like this. You're like falling out of my pocket. And I'd be talking to her like this.

Yes, we all do it. We all do it. And she is, she is a goddess.

She is a goddess.

Okay.

Um, well, this leads me to my stink face.

Leads me to—

and I bet, by the way, we all have body dysmorphia. So I bet you look—

We all do.

We all do.

I bet you look incredible. And I bet I saw it. You did.

Okay.

We talk—

we always on this podcast talk to people who know our guests and give us like— we talk well behind their back.

And—

Oh, sweet Jesus.

And we talked to Maisie Williams.

Are we already done? Wait a minute, Maisie.

No, we're not done. No, we're— we have so much. I have so many more things on the, on the, on the paper, but we usually do like about an hour, an hour 10.

Okay.

Okay. And we're live. I'm just kidding. We've been live the whole time.

Great.

So they're going to— Here, hold on. These are all stuck. It's like the chin is not working. Oh my God. Oh my God.

Oh my God.

We just put a little—

you know what I like to do in the red carpet? We just put a little black and white cookie right under my neck.

We just think about—

and then it just sits right here.

Just work it.

And he just looks great.

Would it be great if there's, like, a really great collar that you sort of had, and it made your jaw snatched, and then you had this taking you right in?

And on the way out, your publicist is like, did you have your cookie?

Don't forget your cookie!

Like, oh, shit, my cookie for my necktie.

My cookie time! Okay.

You look incredible. We all look incredible. It's— women are beautiful.

We messed something up.

Every woman is beautiful.

Oh, my God, I'm schwitzy.

Oh, my God, me too. But, okay, here is— we talked to Maisie, and we talked to Joey.

Oh!

How extraordinary are those two? They are the coolest.

They're so cool and talented.

They are everything.

Tell me about working with them, what it was like.

You know, it's a combination of awe and intimidation because they are so free. I'm glad I had to play someone that was tightly wound and had to be very maternal and dark and stiff, you know, because their freedom is intimidating and educational.

Yeah.

Like we were having about just being a woman and flying the flag and stuff like that. And I said something about fear. I said, yeah, but you know, you've got— this isn't Maisie. She goes, oh no. And then she went off. She goes, being a woman. She went off on always not liking the word witch. I said, I don't like the word witch because it always came with negative connotation.

Of course it always—

Maisie had full ownership of it.

Yes.

I mean, and she— and it was like—

Yeah, it's the divine feminine and it's real power.

They both epitomize that. And it's so peaceful to see because I'm like, if that's where that generation is, my daughter's definitely in that generation. It makes you calm for the future. Like, maybe our job was well done. You know, Gloria Steinem.

Yeah. Rest in peace, Gloria.

I see how genuine Maisie and Joey are about other women. Their want for other women to be seen, to succeed fearlessly. They're in support of these women. They don't feel like anything is being taken from them in their support of other women. And I'm like, I just find them— I just, I learned, I learned a lot from them.

They, of course, adore you. They loved working with you. And their questions were so tender. I loved their questions. And makes sense that they're those kinds of people. Maisie's she was kind of talking about your physicality. And she also said something I found really interesting. And, you know, not to make the comparison, but it was very— it's very Lucy. It's very Lucille Ball, is that she talked about the way you like to really rehearse your physical stuff. That rehearsing is the way in which you kind of get into it.

For the physical stuff.

For the physical stuff.

Not for verbal comedic stuff. Right.

But that's what Lucy used to do. Lucy used to come in and walk through her physical stuff, which you imagine, like, her physical stuff felt like It was spontaneous. Not at all. And she got more and more comfortable with the physical by doing it.

I didn't know that.

Yeah, she was really into rehearsing. And anyway, she talked about how, for her, that physical stuff is kind of like— Maisie can probably cry like the best of them. I mean, Arya Stark, the most incredible character. But she was like, the physicality and comedy, and those two things. And she was like, how does— she was like, how do you not get self-conscious when you're doing it? Which I thought was such a tender question. And I feel like we talked about it a little bit, but, but, but I guess, how do you not?

You do. And you use it.

Yeah.

To be uncomfortable is the greatest feeling for me within doing the physical things like that. As uncomfortable as I can get, because then I can react off of it. So I try to set things up to even bump myself. We had this great gentleman who's Gary, who did props. Gary. Gary, love me some— it's like, he's always my set boyfriend, Gary, in the props. Because it became a game of, I would set things a certain way, and he figured out why I was setting them a certain way so I could surprise myself and then get caught on something. And he would slightly move it aside, and it would just give me something else. And like, when it didn't move, I was like, why didn't he move it? Why didn't Gary move it for me?

Yeah.

But to be uncomfortable is the best position to be in, I feel, for the comedy that I like to do. I mean, you too, right?

Absolutely. Like, a little bit of tension.

Yeah.

That—

and that feeling of, like, a little bit of danger and, um, you know, a tiny bit of, uh— I don't know, I guess it's what an athlete must feel. It's the closest thing to feeling it. I'll never be an athlete, but the idea that there's something on the line. There's something on the line. That you can create that's not scary, but a little bit of stress.

Yes. And that's what I do for my lines. I learn them 3/4. I'll never drop a line for another actor, but I want to always be able to pivot, drop it if I need to, be in danger, let it surprise me as well. Because you can become very rote.

Well, that's if you learn your lines, which I choose not to do.

You don't?

Okay.

I don't believe in it.

That line thing.

And then Joey had the sweetest question, which is, when is the last time you asked yourself, wow, does it get any better than this?

Oh my God. I know! What a nice— what a crazy question.

Isn't that so nice? Look at us crying.

We're so good at it.

We're so good at it. Do you see it?

Get a close-up.

We're good.

We can do it.

But that's when I cry. I cry with kindness. In the big moments when you expect everyone to cry, I have to hold it together because I have to take care of big things. The feels hit me when there's kindness that I didn't expect. And that question— What a great question. I don't. And I think that's what she's meaning. She knows I don't stop enough and go, But it's not true. This whole past year, from London when we started filming, I see things just like so differently.

Yeah.

I really do. It's like I'm allowing myself to be a kid in how I see things again.

But that play is the indication that you're a little out of crisis. It's really hard.

Out of crisis?

Yeah.

Really?

It's hard to play when you're in crisis. It's like the reason why for a lot of people it was hard to create during COVID It was hard to like, Organize things, you know, because when, when you're really feeling in crisis, play is, is the first to go.

Yeah.

When you feel that back again, that's like some little bit of, like, feeling that things are getting just a little bit more safe or regulated.

Like, um, well, I mean, for Joey then, for both of them, like, just, you know, because we're passing the torch, or we're like, as Gloria said, I light others' torches. So this enlightening their torch It was a bonfire, you know? And to be opposite them when there was, like, a lot on the— we have the nostalgia part, and to see them just bring it, that's when it doesn't get any better.

Yeah.

When the choices we made to bring those 2 very specific talents on and watch them kill it.

You're such a good producer.

You know, it's like—

Can we just talk?

Take a minute. I love it.

I love it. You're just really, really— deeply empathetic, compassionate, but very successful. And you're just a baller of a producer.

You know, that's really nice of you to say. I mean, I don't—

You have produced, what, like 15 films or something? And you produce a lot of stuff. And I think a lot of people can feel your presence when you're working on something 'cause they know that you're producing it, frankly.

You do a lot of good sucking up in your interviews.

Well, you know what? Right back at you. You're always trying to throw it back at me. Okay. And Practical Magic, Really good music.

Right? Right?

I mean, did you have to get— was it— did you have to write personal letters to people to get the music for your play?

I did some calling. I did some reaching out. Olivia Rodrigo, Fleetwood Mac. And she doesn't license to anyone.

No, I know.

And she's a fellow witchy-poo. She's a thief.

Talk about, like, the future is— Talk about a favor.

No kidding. She's—

Olivia, please come on. We love you. Okay.

All right.

All right, let's do a speed round. A speed speed round.

Hold on, let me get it. Let me wet my whistle.

You love real estate.

Do you want to do it like this?

Yeah, let's do it like this. Well, then the pervs will get into it.

Oh, don't you want pervs or an audience?

Well, you know, it's a great question. I welcome pervs.

You know what I love is the laughing that's coming. Are they sitting in the bathroom? They're sitting in the bathroom. Because there's an echo. Is there tile in that room? There is, right? Speaking of real estate, there's no better laugh than a laugh from the toilet.

Oh my God, that's such a good call. Tile, a tile of laughs. You're right, because it's like usually ladies in the bathroom. I also enjoy a laugh that comes from like when you're a little kid and you're sitting on the stairs and there's like a party downstairs. Yeah, I love the laugh that travels up a stair.

Okay.

But yeah, she said that is the way, like, so it's happened recently.

Yeah. Also, yes, sons are throwing down on the basement. Get back to your question.

Pervs are welcome. But creeps are not.

Okay, yeah, no, we—

Big difference.

Got it, yes.

We've talked about this on here with Ike Barinholtz. There's a difference between a perv and a creep. You know who you are.

Yes, yeah.

Okay. But you love real estate and design.

I do, I do.

How would you describe your design sense in a word or two?

Depends on the structure.

So you go with the place, like you're listening to the—

I go with the, I listen to the place. I walk in and I go, who were the craftsmen? What does this place want to be? 'Cause I love the restoration process. So I feel like that word would be Like organic history or wabi-sabi.

Wabi— here we go. Okay. Sleep. What time do you go to bed? Love it.

I'm a great sleeper. I'm a great sleeper. I mean, I try to stay awake until, you know, Lila's in bed because she's a terrorist at night. So I just— if she's out, then I can go to bed. But it's like 10 o'clock, up at 5:30.

That's what a professional does.

It is. Pets.

Hmm.

How many do you have?

I have 4 right now.

What flavors?

I have flavors. I have vanilla, peach, and 2 chocolate. Do you have chickens?

I don't have—

all my chickens passed away. Oh, I'm sorry. I have a somewhat blind poodle. I have a little rescue poodle who has a collapsed trachea 'cause they shoved spoons down her throat to quiet her. She was part of an illegal puppy mill.

Oh, bless her heart.

But at least they have legs. We had dogs without legs and the kids were like, enough. We have Mama, who is a black feral, somewhat feral cat. cat that was on my property who then brought 2 babies. Like, I'm highly allergic to cats. And I was like, I am not bringing a cat in this house. The cats are in the house.

Yeah.

Like, so there's 2, there's mama and her baby. And yeah, so 2 gorgeous black cats. My sister calls them the house panthers. I go, that's brilliant. So they're the house panthers.

Horses. Do you like them?

Love them, but highly allergic.

Well, because I have a theory that the thicker your hair, the more you like horses.

Love them, but I'm highly allergic. My daughter is a great rider. She is, she's, She knows how to tame the beast.

What's a musical artist that your kids got you into?

J. Cole.

Mm.

I mean, yeah, it's good.

Protein. How do you take yours? How do you get it?

Thick. I mean, you set me up. You said protein. How do you take it?

I wasn't even thinking that. What a dirty mind.

I wasn't thinking that either.

I was talking about chicken. I'm talking about yogurt. Cinnamon beef yogurt.

Greek yogurt. Thick Greek—

Sandy Bullock.

0% Greek yogurt.

Very good. And that's what I was talking about.

And then a good pulled chicken salad. And then the little peptide proteins in the coffee in the morning.

I'm always trying to figure out how to get—

But are we going to find out 10 years from now that we've overdone it and we've grown some internal eye somewhere?

And also, I always appreciate when it's like, what's another thing I'm supposed to get right? Like, what is another thing I have to do? Good Lord.

Okay.

And then wait, is this all of our speed round questions? There's a lot.

There's a lot.

There's a lot of stuff.

Yeah, we're almost done. Here we go. We gotta wrap this up.

I'm not rushing you.

I have nowhere to go. We have places to be and you have talked so much.

I know.

In a good way.

I apologize. I mean, when this press tour is over, I'm going away for another 4 years. I'm gone, promise.

No, please don't. We love hearing from you.

Unless I come here. Unless I come here, I'll just stop here once a year. I got something going on or not, I just stop.

That came out the wrong way. I mean that you've had to talk so much. It's not that you've talked so much here. I love you talking here and have loved it. And so my last question for you that I ask everybody is, what's making you laugh? Like what? But I mean, when you're like at home, you know, what's the thing that you are, you know, It— like, where do you go when you need to change the chemistry a little bit?

Inside my head. You wrote that?

That makes sense because you're so funny.

It's like, it's like nothing makes me laugh harder than Louie, my son, man of few words. Like, like, it's like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. And he's like, Mom, yeah, he mumbles everything and I can't, I can't understand a word. I'm like, English?

How old is he?

He's 16 and a half. I'm like, English? But then when he's standing there and he's, you know, You know, no, no smile. And he's like, you know, can I have a milkshake? I'm like, yeah, sure. And then I get up there and I go, milkshake brings you— and I'll just start twerking. And he's just watching it. And then if he smiles, I'm laughing so hard, whether he smiles or not. But like, humiliation.

Yes.

Makes me laugh.

Me too.

If I can humiliate my children.

Yes.

In the privacy of our home, not in public.

Yes, of course.

But in the privacy of our own home.

Yes.

With a little rump shaking. It's the greatest joy.

But that's play. Like, you're just playing.

That's play. I'm playing.

Yeah.

Yeah. And also it is, I mean, I can say this, but you can't. But like, he, like, it's so funny to know that the entire world loves you, Sandy. They feel so connected to you. They've grown up with you. You are their favorite. And yet you cannot get your child to laugh.

I cannot. I cannot.

It is so funny. And also a great healthy relationship.

Yes. Yes. It's a very, very— It's very healthy.

Yes. That's how you want to be.

I am just annoying right now to both children. I'm just annoying.

That's perfect. That's the perfect way you should be for any teen.

Exactly.

But I just love talking to you. I knew I would. I didn't want to put too much expectation on us being friends, but I do feel like we've—

But do you know how nice this is for me? I feel like we're best friends. No, I mean, but I think us not really, I mean, little ships passing in the night, little, you know, Having the opportunity to meet you now at this stage of our life—

Yeah.

Is pretty amazing because everything is all over the place and we're all striving for different things and relationships and kids and dreams and things like that. But to be able to sit here and acknowledge like where we are and where we've been in that world, I'm looking at you just going, fuck, I'm so glad you are that you just are. And I'm so glad that you have this, this world that you've created so we get to come in and experience you in a way that we wouldn't be able to. And you're like, you are, you are one of those that those of us who love comedy do the, like, the bend.

Oh, come on.

But you, you have to know that. Thank you for that. To a lot of people, to a great many of us.

Thank you very much.

So because it is, it is It is. It is. It's unmatched.

The feeling is mutual.

But just shut up and take the compliment for a second.

So for you, you allowing— I'm hitting it right back to you, babe.

Shut your face. So just you and I—

One of us is giving the present and one of us is receiving. And I'm giving and you're receiving and you are not giving me a present at the end of this conversation. Thank you so much for saying that. It means a lot to me.

And I feel really grateful. And this is— I was very— I was a little nervous.

You were?

I was a little bit. Shit.

I'm sorry to hear that. No, no, no.

In a good way. Because I was so looking forward to it.

Same. I wanted to kind of temper my expectations because I was like, don't come on too strong. It's okay if she doesn't become your friend.

She doesn't like you.

It's okay if she doesn't like you. Most people don't. Just relax.

I mean, just walking in and seeing you, you know, was like— I was like, did I just cross a boundary by like throwing my arms around her face?

You know?

But I, I felt very safe here. And you make people feel very, very— to me, that Sandy, thank you.

Really, thank you so much for doing it. And I adore you. So thanks so much.

I now adore you.

Yay!

We did it! Oh my God, it was so good!

Oh, Sandy Bullock, you are just the best. Thank you so much for coming on. That was such a delight to talk to you. And like everything you do, it was moving and deep and funny and real. and authentic. I just love talking to you. And for this Polar Plunge, I think, you know, Sandy talked a lot about the care that she took of her partner, Brian Randall, who died of ALS. And I think we spoke a little bit about caretaking in general. And I guess I just wanted to take the second to reach out to anybody who is listening today who are in the thick of it, who are caretaking currently as we speak or know someone who is stretched thin, we're just sending our love to you. I know Sandy would feel the same, and she said some really amazing things here about making sure to take care of yourself along the way. So reminding you of that message and saying thanks if no one said thanks to you today. Thank you. Thank you for listening. Sandy, thank you for all that you've done and the joy you've given us and continue to give us.

And thanks for listening to Good Hang.

Bye!

You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paperkite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullen, Aleah Zaneras, Bridget Gearlings, Paige Garbarini, Belle Roman, and Drew Van Steenburgen. For Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss-Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.

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