Transcript of Andrew Garfield

Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of Good Hang. We have Andrew Garfield on today. Andrew is just the best, a real tenderoni, and hilarious, and talented, and, and, and star of film and Broadway. And we are going to get into so many things today. We're going to talk about how Munich has the best felt. We're going to talk about having that competitive spirit, especially when it comes to board games. We're going to talk about being method, but not being And we're going to talk about his new movie, The Uprising, which is out now and looks incredible, like all of the stuff that Andrew does. So we're very, very excited to get started, but we always start our episodes by speaking to somebody who knows our guest, who has worked with our guest, has good things to say about our guest behind their back. And we're going to talk to a legend, Lin-Manuel Miranda. You know him from, oh, I don't know, Hamilton and Moana and the upcoming Warriors musical and 5 other million things that he's won 10 EGOTs for.

Lin?

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Hi!

Hi! I can't wait to get you into the 'stude.

Can I tell you, I had a nightmare about that once.

You did?

I had a nightmare that, like, you invited me on, but you didn't— I could tell you didn't really want me to be on. Like, someone had you, and you were like, come in, I guess.

Oh, that's making me nauseous.

Like, you were very unenthusiastic about it. You were like, sit down, I guess. And it wasn't your usual set. It was just like some apartment where I was like, I was like a pity guest.

Oh, that's giving everybody the chills in here. So that is a, that is a proper stress dream.

Woke up in a sweat. I can handle a lot of things. I cannot handle not being a good hang with you.

Oh my God, I'm so sorry that I was that way in your dream. In real life, and we are awake, and I can't wait to get you in here. I am such a fan of your work. Love, would love to talk to you and would be So happy to be talking to you.

Oh, my goodness gracious.

Yes, yes, yes. And so happy to be talking to you today. Where are you? It looks like you're in some kind of studio. There's a piano behind you.

Yes, we are in day 2 of our workshop for our next musical.

Warriors!

Warriors!

Come out to play, yay!

That's the one! So, Issa Davis and I are here in the room. There are actors learning songs in the next room.

There must be no better feeling than, like, Working with the piano and hearing people sing in the other room and just the workshopping of it all.

Yeah. Well, it's the thing of other people— you get the solitude of writing, and then you also get to bring in a song, and then people who sing much better than you sound beautiful on it. And I had so much fun with your episode with Groff, who is also one of my closest friends, because just the joy off him is like, we're in the play. We get to be in the school play and, and we're all still chasing that high as adults.

Well, I feel that way, you know, about you, Lynn. Like, I feel— I know that everybody that works with you feels that way. Like, you're such a collaborator. You love the process. You love making things better, you know, you know, letting the best idea win. Like, you can feel that. And also, you're a fan. Like you've never stopped being a fan of the thing that you're doing.

Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. No, it's— it is. I mean, it's why I had so much fun when I was on SNL. It was— it's— it's the school play on steroids. It's like a supercharged version of the thing that got me hooked on this art form of like, we get to make it like, and we get to make something bigger than any of us could make alone, I think is the big thing.

Yes. So well said. So well said. And you got to work with sweet Andrew Garfield.

Sweet, sweet Andrew Garfield.

First of all, congratulations on Tick, Tick... Boom! What a beautiful film.

It makes my life that you even know what that is and have seen it.

Of course. I loved the performance, loved your direction. What an incredible cast. Like, can we talk about it just for a second? Because I know it, you know, it was— it's personal material. It's also about a person's life who— and Andrew is the kind of actor who's played a lot of real people, as I've been looking at his career, and like, could you imagine even a more considerate and nicer person to take somebody's real life into their hands? But can you just tell me, how did you guys come together to make that? How did that happen?

Sure. Most of my familiarity with Andrew's work was actually theater. I was lucky enough to see him in Death of a Salesman with Philip Seymour Hoffman. Um, and he was unreal in that. And then I, uh, I saw him in Angels in America, both parts, which is like, it's a day. It's your day.

Yes.

You know, you go to the matinee to see part 1, you eat dinner, you see part 2. They're both 3 hours long. Um, and I didn't know whether he had a musical bone in his body, but it's such an endurance test, that play. And he was so magnificent in it. that I was just like, this guy can do anything. I just thought, I don't know if he can sing, but I think he can do anything.

Yeah.

Andrew and I had, like, exchanged an email or two in our lives. He was a fan of Hamilton. And so I said, can we go out to, like, dinner before your performance? He was doing Angels on Broadway at the time. And I took him out to sushi, and I Told him about the movie we were working on. And I said, can you sing? And he said, when are you making this? And I go, not for a year. And he goes, then I can sing.

Amazing.

And I was like, oh my God, he's going to learn.

Well, that's kind of like the theme of what I want to talk to him about today is like he works very hard. He's a really hard worker and takes, I think, a lot of Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

He wants the work. He wants the discipline. And like, you have to be a monk to do 8 shows a week. Like, you actually have to like know when you're eating, know exactly what you're putting in your body so that you are at your peak at 7 PM, 8 PM that night. He has played a monk and like lives it. Like, he truly lives it.

And you know how I feel about Broadway. Absolutely too many shows. I've said this.

Well, to quote you in Wet Hot American Summer, theater is now and it's you.

That is true.

Which I watch maybe once a month. I watch that speech to myself.

Yeah, very obtuse. Yeah, it makes perfect sense. It's now and it's you.

Yeah, I mean, you basically played me in that— me at 14 in that movie. Like, guys, this is serious. And then you learn, well, you learn, oh, no one wants to work with that person. Your job is to make the most fun room possible so that people choose doing the play over basketball, over debate team. Like, no, no, actually, this is the most fun place to be. Not guys. We're going to work steps.

Story of my life. Story of my life, which is just like, just chill out. Chill out. Just pump the brakes on whatever you're saying. Okay, so do you have a question you think I should ask Andrew today? Anything big, small?

Well, my question comes with a story, which is that famously Andrew learned to sing, took a year, and then came out on the other end and was just an amazing singer for my movie. And there was a sequence we had to shoot that was a swimming pool scene. Jonathan Larson would swim to get his ideas, and he wrote this great stream-of-consciousness song, and he gets the idea while he's doing laps. And I had 3 days in the actual pool Larson swam in, in the Village, and had a stunt double for all of the complicated underwater photography, had a special underwater photographer. And then I found out Andrew is basically Michael Phelps. Like, his dad is a swim instructor.

That's right.

And Andrew swam better than my stunt double. So my question is, one, what are the other superpowers you have that a director hasn't tapped yet? And one, what feels like even too much of a challenge? He learned to sing for me. Martin Scorsese threw him into the wild. He's really taken on some I think he gets very excited by the challenges. What's something that really scares him that he would still probably do?

That's a great question. And I think he's going to love it because I think he is very driven exactly by what you said, by the challenge of what to do next. And I never know what he's going to do next. It's always really interesting. I mean, his new film that's out is about a peasant revolt.

Yeah. And then he goes from that to Sam Altman. Like, it's crazy.

I know. Crazy. Well, Lynn, I loved talking to you. I think we're gonna have a very good time and not a scary dream time when we see each other. Thank you. I appreciate that. And thanks for stepping away.

Absolutely. Have fun with Andrew. He's a lovey, lovey, love.

Okay. Take care. Thanks again.

Awesome. Bye.

Bye.

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I—

if I can't— if I can't deal with smell is my number one, my number one sense. I'm the best at it. What do you think is your best of the 5 senses? What is your best?

What's my best sense?

Yes.

What's my most accomplished sense?

We've got smell.

We've got— Remind me of the others.

Okay, we've got smell. We've got hearing.

Ah, yep.

We've got sight. We've got touch. And what's the other one? Taste.

Oh, yes. I always forget taste.

You get it.

I'm not gonna be humble about this.

Don't be.

And I don't mean to brag at the same time.

Please brag.

I'm kind of trying to be neutral.

I love a brag.

I'd say touch.

Damn. This is the beginning of the worst or the best date ever.

But touch.

So do you— okay, let me ask you a touch question. Oh, yeah, please. I enjoy— I enjoy— I like how things feel like— I like the texture.

You're tactile.

I'm a tactile person as well.

Yeah.

When you're shopping for clothes, do you do what I do, which is you just go like this? You just go like this. For real, if it's not soft, I'm not interested. You sniff it and then you touch it.

Fabric.

Yeah.

You know what I love?

Yes.

Can I tell you anyway? Yes.

Felt. I fucking love felt.

Fucking hell. What do we got?

Hold on.

Stand back. Remember, I said I could sniff out the felt. I know where the felt is in this room. I'm like a divining rod for felt.

Hold on. Okay, this is— We're recording in New York. I have more felt in LA.

Okay.

But—

Yeah, LA's much more felt-friendly.

This is a fake cheeseburger. Open that up.

Oh my god.

This is a— That's a hard felt. Oh my god.

It's a little hard.

Yeah, it's a little hard.

This felt is not— That's a cheeseburger. It's not Munich felt. I was just in Munich. Munich?

Felt?

I told you I like felt.

Say more.

Munich is known for its felt-making.

Whoa, cool.

That's all I got.

And it has specific—

you can tell. Specifically made felt. So I was shooting in Munich. This is a great podcast story. I was shooting in Munich.

Yes.

And I didn't have much time on my hands. I was shooting intensely. But the time I did have, Was spent in the felt store.

Were you playing somebody who had to felt?

No, I was playing a peasant. Right.

This is this new movie, The Uprising.

It's called The Uprising.

We want to talk about it, and I want to talk about the socks that you are— look at you. You really do like— touch is a very important sense for you.

Look at you touching. I would never lie to you about something so vital. Hold on.

Sorry, but I just want to indulge your touch fantasy here, which is—

look at this.

What do you got?

Another—

Just felt too hard for me.

Yeah, sorry, that wasn't good.

Ooh.

Give that a squeeze.

Oh, that's lovely.

That's what she said.

That's really lovely. I'm really glad it doesn't squeak.

I'm glad it doesn't squeak because I'm an adult. You know what I mean?

You're a mature lady.

I don't need a dog toy.

I don't need to get excited by sounds in the way that a dog might.

No, there's actually no worse feeling than when you bring home a toy for a child or a dog and you realize that it squeaks.

You're like, oh, fuck. Why didn't I check that? What's cool about this—

Yeah? Yeah.

What's cool about this—

Let me smell it while you talk about it. I've never smelt it. It's not bad.

Kinda smells like—

Sometimes these smell like— they come—

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, okay. You know.

You all know.

You all know.

You know what I'm about to say.

You guys know how your fake cheeseburgers sometimes smell in your office. You know, Andrew Garfield is here. We're starting again.

That's all the time we have.

But you're talking about the uprising. I want to talk to you about this because—

I want to talk about everything.

Okay. I've been thinking about my theme for you.

Theme?

Yeah. About what to talk to you about today because I feel like we could talk forever and I love talking to you.

Me too. Same. I love this, by the way. What you're doing here is so beautiful.

Thank you.

And I'm like, it's about time there's another podcast Yeah, I know there wasn't enough. Weirdly, weirdly, people were like, we have room for one more.

Just one more.

And I was like, no, but like, if anyone should in this world have a— have this room, thank you for that.

It's really fun.

Yeah, it's really fun. Yeah.

And I've been paying attention to, as I've been thinking about and prepping for today, about your work and your life and you and I'm fascinated by your love of hard work. You just love to work hard.

Yeah, I do.

You love it.

You do too.

Yes, but not as much as I used to. Not as much.

I don't know.

Not anymore. I have a podcast, baby.

I just realized that.

Sitting down with a— but your work ethic is really something. It's very admirable. I know you care. Like, your love language feels like it's like acts of service. Like, You do things for people, right? I got you.

I got you. Very funny. Yes. You're on it. You're dead on.

Like, that is how you show your passion for stuff, your love for people, and how you show up in your work. And you are always working so hard and in everything you're doing, you're training, you're starving, you're learning how to sing. This new movie looks so hard. Looks so cold. And dirty and hard. And that's all. I just want you to just take it— I want to talk to you.

You want me to take it easier?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I'm upset. I'm really into your relationship to work because I think it's like, it's very admirable. And also I think it's so funny. It's very, um, I think it's your way into stuff.

Would you agree? Yeah. I mean, you know, I keep— because one of my favorite episodes that you've done is with Cole Escola. Oh. It was just heaven. It's a heaven conversation. And just the running bit of, I just like playing.

It's just all—

it's all play to me. Like, the play is the thing. And honestly, I'm just like, I can never go on Amy's podcast because I will be the guy actually saying that for real.

I know what you mean.

It's really impossible. You guys have made it impossible to have a serious conversation about—

Okay, but I think I can speak— I know what you mean, but I think I can speak for myself, and I'd like to speak for Cole.

Okay.

But I'm very interested and what motivates people.

Yeah, sure.

Like how people move through the world. And that's the coolest thing about these convos.

Yeah.

Were you always like a hard worker? Was— what, what did work look like in your house, in your family?

Yeah, no, it's— yeah. Oh boy.

I know we're going there.

No, I know.

I just— Do you want to hold something? You want to touch something? You want to squeeze something?

Is there any felt that's softer than—

There's no— no, there's no Munich felt.

There's no Munich felt in here?

I know, it's disgusting studio.

So weird.

Jenna, get the Munich bell.

Bring out the Munich bell, Jenna.

Jenna!

So yes.

You were charmed. Okay, fine. I'll just ask you another question.

No, no, no, no, no, no. I really love what you're— I just unironically tucked my hair behind my ears.

By the way, your hair is incredible.

We're in the same position right now.

Thank you, Jess.

Your hair is great.

Propecia.

Great. You know what? People should know that.

I don't—

everyone, every man I know is on Propecia. And also—

You just outed every single man in your life that you know, including your young nephews and sons. I don't know, like, like every single male.

Propecia is incredible. And thank you for saying that. You do have naturally very thick hair. You always have. You have. Congrats. Incredible. And I bet you grew it like that. And you bet you don't even comb it in the morning and it looks incredible.

I lied about the Propecia. It's just all natural. I'm just trying to be relatable to other guys out there.

But your hair looks great. But anyway, sorry, you talked about your hair.

I'm gonna say something controversial. Sometimes, like, sometimes people are great. Do you know what I mean? Like, sometimes people are really great. And I know that's a hot take.

That is controversial, Andrew. But that's so you. I mean, there's a, there's a, like, there's a real humanity to the stuff you do. There's also, you're just a delightful person to be around. You're a real tenderoni.

I will co-sign that.

You're a real tenderoni.

You and me both.

Yes. And people are great. So say more.

Some people, some human beings can be really wonderful and add beautiful things to the earth and to the world. And I guess I'm curious as well about what is it that makes us feel compelled to do that? My mother was one of those people in every single moment of her life. I have this image of her now that she's passed. And it came very like a flash in a dream or like in a waking— I don't know what it was, but I had this image of her being reunited with her tribe after she passed.

Beautiful.

And it made sense to me why she could be so hard on herself incarnate when she was alive. I was like, oh, you knew you were meant to be in 1,000 different places at once giving goodness to people. And you knew in some unconscious way that you were being restricted by this vessel of a body, by the vessel of restriction of time and space. So when she passed, I don't know if you've ever had this experience with someone who's passed, but it's like in the first month or two, I felt more connected to her than I ever felt connected to her when she was incarnate. incarnate, when she was alive. Alive, let's put it in quotation marks. I do believe that she's here right now and she's everywhere all at once.

Yeah.

I do believe that, and I have a knowing of that. So there was something about seeing, maybe seeing my mother in, in a very specific kind of hard work that was so naturally occurring for her.

Yeah.

And I was always someone, in the same way that you just did with me, I was always someone with her, I was like, just take a trip.

Yeah.

Just relax. You're enough. You're the most beautiful angel on earth. You can give yourself what you give to others, and it doesn't make you selfish. It doesn't make you any which way. But after she passed, I had this real understanding of like, oh no, that was just inherently who she— I don't know whether it was nurture or nature. I have no idea. But it was just the the activating, the animating spirit of her, of her essential nature, of her essential being. And I guess you could call that hard work, or you could— I don't know, there's something otherworldly about it. As I say, after she passed, I was like, oh, she's back. She's actually back.

Yeah.

She's back where she's meant to be, running around with her good angel brigade, giving people who need a miracle a miracle, like times a million. I could, I could just feel it. And I was just one of the people that she was hanging out with.

Beautiful. I mean, the idea that her spirit and one's spirit can be kind of like released once they leave their, their body. Just that idea that somebody is bigger than their body.

Yes.

And that's so interesting that you talk about your mom when I ask you that question, because there is something in your work that feels really not only curious, but very unbridled. Like you like to kind of go, go places. As I'm trying to like psychoanalyze, and again, I am no therapist, but I do feel like I am. And that's what this podcast is about.

Again, she says again.

And I will give you a prescription at the end of this. No, but I think it's also very interesting that you talk, even though you're, You're British in many ways. You were born in the US and you talk— like, I find you toggle back and forth between those things culturally very easy. And I had a question for you, which is, what do you think is the most American thing about you?

My love of hamburgers. Like, I love hamburgers.

But you have very youthful energy as a person. You're a little brother.

Yes.

You're a little brother. And your older brother is a doctor.

He's a doctor, a heart and lung doctor in London. Yeah, yeah. The good son. He's the one that made good.

Yeah.

He made good.

Was he always?

Yeah, he was head boy at school. He was captain of the swimming team. He was a fucking son of a bitch.

Yeah.

He was a son of a bitch.

How many years older than you?

3 years older. Yeah, yeah. I was fucked. I was fucked from day 1. And he gave me meningitis day 2 of my life.

Oh, he gave you—

He brings home meningitis.

And then he became a doctor to heal you from it.

You really should prescribe at the end of this. And yeah, I think being raised in a competitive household is definitely a part. the nuts and bolts of like the therapy, it would be like, yeah, we don't feel enough, the Garfield men. There is a kind of, uh—

But competition sometimes gets a bad rap.

I love competition. I love games. I love—

I love it too.

I fucking love it.

What kind of game player are you?

You know what I mean?

Like, do you get too intense?

Yes.

Yeah, me too.

I think you would have to ask my friends this, but I would say I do. I, I have a— I, I can upset people.

Yeah, I have as well. I work on it because Obviously, everyone wants to have a good time, but when people say things like, who really cares? I'm like, what are we doing? What do you mean? We're playing a game. We have to try to win as best we can.

Otherwise, you're ruining the game. Anyone who says, yeah, I'll play, and then it's like, who cares?

Yeah, this is so stupid.

Don't fucking play.

Don't fucking play.

Yeah, don't show up.

And also, I'm treating you I'm being rough on you because I believe in you.

And I love you. Yeah, for sure.

I mean, I expect the best from you.

Yeah. And I want— I want you to grow.

I want you to grow at celebrity or whatever we're playing.

Traitors, werewolves.

Okay. Do you like playing Mafia?

Yeah, I play werewolf is the version I play.

Yeah, I'm not— I'm—

I'm bad at being the werewolf.

Dude, me too. I hate it. And when I get it, I'm like, oh, fuck.

I know. I hate it.

I hate it. I hate— I hate the, like, lying. I hate the deception.

I know. I know. And I bet I blow it.

I love accusing.

Winning.

Yes, of course. We're John Proctoring. And also defending oneself.

Of course. Being like, how dare you think that I'm a criminal?

Like, it was my name! You could not take my name! And everyone's just drinking their beers and just wanting to go to the bathroom.

Thou shalt not! Okay, so let's get in. I do want to ask you a couple questions about your work.

Okay?

I have to.

Okay.

Your first film, you're with Meryl Streep, Tom Cruise, and Robert Redford. How old are you then?

I'm 23, I want to say.

So you're coming onto that set, like, and we all, you know, you have the— everyone has the jitters of, like, any first day on any job. Like, I'm just going to be cool. I'm just like, hi. You know, like, I'm going to just don't talk too much. Like, that's what I would say, you know, to myself. Like, just listen more than you talk and just— they'll get to know you. You know, whatever you're saying to yourself as you're driving to set or whatever, what are you saying to yourself? when you're approaching that set? That's a really intimidating set! That's so intimidating! Oh, my God. What was it like to work with Robert Redford?

I don't know what I was telling myself. I— so, first of all, Bob Redford, God rest his beautiful soul of service. That man had a soul for service. Like, what he did with Sundance and what that sprung from came out— it came out of him, I think, helping out his new neighbor in Utah who was about to be foreclosed on. He's like, I'll buy your farm so you can keep it. I'm gonna have to make some money out of it, and we'll set up a lab for young filmmakers. So it came out of him helping out his neighbor. It's just like, he was a beautiful, beautiful man. And very late all the time to everything. So I say it with love. So I'm like, yeah, terrified and nervous and pinching myself. And then Bob is 4 hours late. And it's just like, by that time, I'm just pissed.

Of course.

I'm just angry. Okay, let's talk about this.

No, I wasn't really.

Yeah, yeah.

But right, so you're—

But a lot of the nerves had kind of dissipated because he was so loose and casual, and he was so cool, and he still dressed like he was in his 20s with the double denim, and he wasn't aware that he was late. He was just like on his own Redford time. And he was famously late. I'm not like telling tales out of school. He was like a famously late Well, God is fair.

I mean, you know, like, he's so handsome, like, there's gonna be something wrong with him. I mean, what if he was, like, on time all the time? I'm like, okay, great. So he's late. Like, you're gonna be a little annoyed with the guy. So he's late. He's like, I'm so— I was too handsome.

Like, I couldn't stop looking at the— I felt guilty.

So you were feeling less nervous. It helped.

And, and, well, he was so relaxed. Yeah, he was so relaxed. And, and, and he would shoot him his own coverage first. He would shoot himself, and then he would look at me after his first take, and he'd be like, what do you think? Because he was directing as well, so all my scenes were with him. And he was like, what do you think? And I was like, it's great.

Really good.

It's really good, Robert Redford. And he was like, okay.

Oh, that's really generous.

I'll do it again. I'll do it again. But yeah, tell me if you see anything that you think. And I'm like, oh my God.

Oh, that's a really interesting move, right?

Because he's trying to, like— It was heaven. Yeah, just make me feel like it was my set and make me feel like I was an equal. And he knew it was my first movie.

Yeah, that's very nice.

Oh, he was so nice. He was so beautiful. And we— and it was like a theater play, and I'd done only theater at that point. It was a lot of dialogue, and it was like a—

Well, you are a theater— you're a theater boy. That is your first love.

That is my first, like, love out— it was like, that was like my first exit of The Truman Show, you know what I mean? Like, like opening that door in the sky, and then it was like, yeah, there's a whole world out there that's that I had no idea existed.

When you were working on that film, were you still working at Starbucks?

No, no, no.

You had quit Starbucks?

I had quit Starbucks.

No, because there is always this weird thing sometimes when you're actually—

No, I wasn't ready to fully let go of it. I wasn't like, you know, I'm not gonna say that that era is over.

Right?

I had a little bit of a shock straight out of drama school. I did 2 plays in a row, and then I was like, I'm set. And I did like a Doritos commercial in Spain. And I'm like—

And you're like, That's that, I guess. Wrap it up, fellas.

Like, stand up, wrap it up. Like, that's my— like, that's gonna— that's my kind of like the rest of my life is gonna be the occasional Doritos like crisp commercial and, and great theater work. I'm good.

Yeah.

Um, and then I didn't work for a year, and then I started having to wait tables again and be a bartender, and I, I broke up with my girlfriend at the time. So it was like a really great year of You're never safe. You get this destabilized kind of place. I still have it. I'm sure that you do too, even at the top of this swanky building, or not. You're like, no, I'm pretty much set.

No, it's funny you say that. I know what you mean. I still just feel like you have to have a plan always, just if everything goes away.

What's yours?

I mean, it's funny, I still have dreams sometimes about going back and being a waitress because I liked waiting tables a lot.

Yeah.

Because working in the service industry in general, I liked a lot because there was just certain things that felt like you just completed your night. Like your night had a system and you completed it. You interacted with people enough that you performed a little bit. You were with people who also worked very hard. But the idea of like doing a good job still means a lot to me. I know it means a lot to you. It's— I get a lot of self-esteem from work.

Yeah.

Do you consider yourself a method actor?

So the method—

And if so, who am I speaking to? But it's like— but because it is— you do go pretty deep. When you're playing character, you do.

You got that trickster look in your eye. Well, you got me. You're looking for the clickbait headline. You're like, is he gonna give me the juice?

Babe, you lost all this? Wait, you studied for a year being a monk. You go for it. You go for it. Are you method?

Are you method? Answer the question. Are you method? It's a yes or no question.

Who are you, though?

Don't try and get cute with it.

Okay, okay.

Are you?

But I am! No, but I want to know! In a way, yes. But I think— yeah. But I think the term has been massively mischaracterized, misunderstood, and co-opted by people that don't know. A method is basically having a method. And the Stanislavski method, the Strasberg method, is about trying to live truthfully under imagined circumstances.

Mm-hmm.

And having it feel personal, having it feel connected to something that's interior, that is not just a kind of more performative exterior abstraction. So I feel like, yes, but I don't— I think there's a way of doing it that's generous. I think there's a way of accessing that work and that style of working that doesn't fuck with the rest of the cast, that doesn't fuck with the rest of the crew, that you don't have to lose a bunch of weight.

That's playful.

Well, yeah, yeah, totally. And generous. And my personal taste and my personal— Sidney Lumet, the great, one of my favorite filmmakers of all time, who seems to vanish as a director in his movies in the sense that he let his movies be the movies rather than letting people know that he directed them.

Yes.

You know what I mean? Like, every movie is such a different flavor, such a different feel.

Alan Parker is like that too.

Alan Parker, exactly. I was thinking about Alan Parker. And, and so very— one of my favorite films of all time, Bugsy Malone, Alan Parker. And then he does Angel Heart. Yeah. Holy fuck. Yeah. And, and so, so, so he says in his great little book Making Movies— I don't know if you've read— he tells a story about Paul Newman, I think. Or yeah, he tells a story about Paul Newman in— what was the movie they made together? It'll come back. But he's like, Paul Newman came with— and he did the scene, and Lumet was like, okay, I think we're gonna reshoot this tomorrow because I think you need to find out what this scene's about inside yourself. And he comes back the next— and there was something very personal that he was referring to. He was like, I think you know what this moment is, and I think you're resisting going there.

Mm.

And Paul Newman came back, and he did the scene, and it was one of the great— scenes of any Sidney Lumet movie. And he describes it as personal revelation. Sidney Lumet is like, the actor's job is personal revelation while the cameras are rolling. The actors that I respond to and the storytelling that I respond to feels like personal revelation.

Yeah.

And through the lens of a character, I think about, like— and I've talked about this openly, about Tick, Tick... Boom!, which is a film that I'm very proud of and I really love.

Beautiful performance.

Thanks. And I just— But I can talk about it because it feels very personal and also not personal at all in a way.

Yeah.

It does feel like that kind of liminal place of letting another spirit move through, intermingling with my own spirit. But also, my mother's spirit is so much in that film. But it was very, very personal because I just lost my mom and we were making this movie. And it's about the shortness of life. It's about the shortness, the sacredness of life. It's about being of service. It's about living out your own calling, your own destiny in a way. And we were talking about waiting tables and that year off.

Yeah.

How do you hang on by hook or by crook to the note that you hear in your head that you have to follow? How do you play your note? How do you not fall asleep to your note even though you're a salmon swimming upstream of a world telling you to to drop it and take the 9-to-5 or whatever it is.

You mentioned directors. You've worked with really interesting directors. You always do. I have a question that I want to ask. Fincher is one of my favorite directors. He's— I love his films. Rashida was in Social Network. I know. And I always— and I was like, what was it like working with David Fincher? Like— and she's like, he's so incredible to work with. But I really want to know genuinely, and not— I'm not, like, digging for some— I want to know, what does that— the many, many takes do? How does it help you as an actor? How does it— does it— how is it not frustrating? Or like—

Can be.

Yeah. Is it like— I, I love it. You love it?

Fucking love it. Because I love acting, and I love hard work, and I love sports, and I love— and I love not going home, right, with anything left to give. And yeah, there's nothing worse, as you know, than going home going, I could have done that better.

Yeah.

It sucks to feel it, to feel like you're in bed and you're just ruminating of, like...

Oh, yeah.

I was— my father put me through drama school. He worked so hard, and now I've just done a half job at this thing that I'm so lucky to do. And so, yeah, I love it. And also, I find it pleasure— I just find the work really deeply pleasurable.

But I love positive reinforcement. I do! I genuinely do. It works on me. Like, I don't— I don't— the challenger in me, I— what I'm relating to is the competitiveness of like tapping into like, fuck yeah, I'll do this fucking 30 times. I don't give a shit. I can tap into that. But I need sometimes like— I don't like— and I'm sure David isn't like this, but I don't do well when I like— like when someone's negging me, like I just kind of quit.

To use the phrase from the pickup artist.

Are you talking about Mystery?

Sorry, Mystery. All right, just a quick sidebar. Shout out to Mystery.

Shout out to Mystery.

We miss you guys. Mystery, didn't work between us, but that doesn't mean that you can't find love.

Um, obsessed with the pickup lines.

She didn't love the negging though.

I— it does not work on me. Like when someone comes up and like, you know, like, hey, you're ugly, whatever. I'm like, okay, like, it just— why are you so ugly at this bar? Whatever, whatever that— I don't— I'm not even good at pretending to do it. I just— I'm like, huh?

It does not work on me.

It does not work on me. But, like, even an exercise class, right? If someone's like, you're gonna work super hard in here, and, like, you know, and I'm just like, no, I'm not.

Not anymore, I'm not.

Not anymore.

You could've had me. You could've had all this.

But when someone's like, you got here no matter what. It's 7:00 AM. Like, I'm like, fuck yeah. I'm just telling for me. For me. So, in any of those repetitive takes, whether it's with David or another director, Do you like— do you trust when you get positive feedback?

With David, I do.

Okay.

I did.

And he would give it?

Yep, he would. But what's so cool about David is that he's that dad. He's that dad that knows that you need that, and he'll give it to you in abundance when you've really shown how much you care. It's that kind of coach.

Right.

I love a sports coach like that. Like, like, like Paul Greengrass on, on, on the film The Uprising is like that. He's an incredible team captain. He's just like— he's just like a— if we were like a football team, the English football team, um, and he was our— he was our man. And, and, and, and, and he, he was so full of beautiful positive reinforcement. David would be— Fincher would be less quick with it for sure. Um, but when you got it, it was like— that you would be stoic about. You would receive it, and you would want to cry, but you would be like, thanks. Yeah, it's cool. It was like that level of, like, it meant so much. And the big scene with the smashing of the laptop thing.

Yes, in The Social Network, for anyone who doesn't know what we're talking about.

Yeah, Social Network. And, um, we did a lot of takes of it. And I— there was, like, a few rounds of takes where I was like, He's gonna call it. He's gonna call it soon. He's gonna call it. He said, okay, one more time, Andrew. And I'm like, okay.

Oh, wow. Yeah.

And then on the 3rd round of 10 or 15 takes, I didn't hear anything. I was just, like, on the floor with, like— I was exhausted and just, like, snotty and just, like, crying. And I'm just waiting for— and at that point, you're broken in a way that's, like, so beautiful.

Beautiful?

So beautiful.

It's the best fucking feeling in the world, Jamie. You mean again?

It's the best fucking feeling in the world.

Okay, you say so.

And I just feel like a shadow approaching, like covering the light that was on me just gets kind of covered by a figure. And I look at his shoes and I look up and he looks down at me. He just puts his hand down and he takes my hand and he shakes my hand and he lifts me up and he's like, okay, moving on. And I'm like, So withholding. So hot.

I don't know. You have— sorry, but you haven't sold me. You haven't sold me.

Let me tell you a different story.

Because I would've liked him at take 10 to say, you're doing a great job. Hey, babe. Hey, babe, you're doing great.

Hey, babe, you're doing so great.

I would've liked— this is what I would've liked. You're doing great, but you know me. I have to do 25 more. That's what I would've liked. I would've been like—

Well, let me say one more thing about David, because I feel like I need to protect him. David as a father on set now. You can feel that he's proud of you because of what you're giving.

He's such a talented director.

But you can feel it. He's not withholding. It's not like you're doing a bad job, and it's not like, I'm not gonna give you the banana. It's like you can feel when he's like, we're gonna keep going. We'll do another one. Think about this. Think about that. He's a tender, tender guy. He really, really is.

Getting back to the very beginning of what we're talking about, is this idea that caring about something is like— it's just like very important. And I'll self-reveal because you're, you're really doing it. You're really, you're really acting like my therapist today, which I don't appreciate.

I'm sorry.

Which I don't appreciate.

I'm honestly sorry.

Okay. Um, you're my David Fincher and you're breaking me down. Um, no, but, um, but when I I feel like I— if I've checked out or I like feel like I am acting like I don't care about something, it really means that I've divested. And yeah, it's a bummer because it means that I've lost some kind of relationship. Sometimes you have to do it to protect yourself. Sometimes you do it because you don't have anything left to give. Sometimes you do it because you don't feel like the person that you're with, I don't know, earned or can hold it, deserves or can hold it.

Yeah, totally, totally.

All that.

Totally.

But you feel like you've lost something.

Like, it's heartbreaking. It is.

It's heartbreaking. You are very, very As a person, as an actor, you really invest. And it must be—

Exhausting.

It must be exhausting. That's why I think you need to take a break from some of these movies.

I'm going to take a break. No, I am going to take a break.

They're too hard?

Yeah, it's too hard. It's too hard being an actor. Being an actor is so—

Did you see Cold Call? No, it's a terrible part.

Pretending to be things, pretending to be in a peasant's revolt. It's hard.

It's hard.

Pretending to be a German magician.

I go home at night and I'm like, owie.

I had to pretend it was cold. It was actually hot.

So, and then, and then, and then, um, wait, wait, I do want to— I want to— okay, you bet.

Seriously, whatever, whatever you want to ask.

Well, you know what, I I love your— Hold on.

This is an SNL skit, isn't it? This is an SNL character.

I'm trying to be real.

Was it Fred Armisen or was it Kirsten Wiig that would start a sentence and then never finish the sentence?

Yes, Fred. They played Garth and Kat.

That's so good. I love that sketch.

Sorry, Fred played a character called Nicholas Fane. Have you ever—

Let me ask you this. Has it ever been a— Okay, say you're in—

It's summertime. It's summer.

Oregon. But there's a dog. Do you have a dog? Wait, dogs or cats? I do a bad job.

And I've already told you that, or I said on that podcast, when he would do it, the cue cards would be blank. You hosted SNL, right?

I did it once. Yeah, I did.

And did you have a good time doing it?

I loved it. I absolutely loved it.

I bet.

I was so scared. But again, like service, I think the best episodes are when the host—

Totally.

Supports the cast.

Well, that's not always, like, an intuitive thing, which I understand. But, like, nobody really pulls anybody aside to say, like, I know this might feel weird, but you'll have the best time if you say yes to the stuff that, like, the cast likes. And, you know, like, if you just, like, become an ensemble member, you'll have the best time. But it's not always set up like that. But did you host it for Spider-Man? Was it during Spider-Man?

I think it was the second Spider-Man. Yeah.

I had Tom Holland in here.

Sweet.

Oh, my God.

Sweetie pie.

What a sweetie pie.

Cutie patootie, yeah.

Such a doll.

A doll.

Such a talented actor.

So talented.

And I just have to say, I love how all of you guys show up for each other. You talk about each other. You talk about your experience.

It's a brotherhood now, which is really, really great. I think doing the one where we were all together really cemented some kind of weird brotherhood that was just beautiful. And I had known Toby a little bit before, But he was always my, you know, my North Star with that character. And I loved what Tom's done. And I think that was very healing for all of us to do that together, to feel less alone in that very, very weird, singular experience, like, to be a part of this character's legacy that is maybe, I don't know, arguably one of, if not the most popular fictional character in the history of modern fiction.

Really, really true.

I don't know another character that is that popular.

And now, you know, mother of boys. I didn't really—

How old are your boys?

They're now 16 and almost 18.

And the Propecia is helping?

Yeah, it's helping a lot. Yeah, I insisted they get on it. Really?

Like, like a lot of hair now? Mommy loves a good head of hair.

You know, mother won't be— mother will be disappointed. That's what I say. I wake them up and I say, has your hair grown? Mother's disappointed. Have you seen Andrew's hair? I say, don't let mother down. That's what I say every day when I close the door. But they— but they, um, the way in which when that character was introduced in their lives, the way they embodied him, like, their bodies want to— it's really wild.

It's so wild. Yeah.

Joseph Campbell primitive stuff.

That's so interestingly put. That's really interesting.

They want to get in that crouch.

Yes.

And they want to leap. And it's so fun with those kinds of films where you watch people come out of the film and they're just moving like dancers to— like, it's so cool. And, um, I just want to talk about Sally Field.

Oh my God, yeah, let's do that. Isn't she—

wow, she's so good at acting.

She's one of the best.

She really is. She's maybe one of the best.

You've worked with some amazing people.

And congratulations, you seem to really love women, and everybody can tell.

Thank God.

Yeah, women love you, and you can tell. And Sally is— I don't know, I just— What was it like to work with her? What is she like to be around?

She's one of the great people alive, or dead for that matter. But she's so— weirdly still humble. It's a weird thing. Like, is she— I would say she has legend status.

Yes.

She's like icon legend status as a performer, as an actor, as a person. Um, and somehow she's retained a kind of homespun, grounded— again, in the same way that Redford made me relax. Like, Sally is someone that you just feel like you're with the best friend aunt you could ever wish for. I was thinking about this the other day, actually. I think one of the great highlights and privileges of my life was to be able to give her a Lifetime Achievement Award at the SAG Awards a few years ago.

Yeah, that was so great.

I felt so lucky. I almost said no 'cause I just didn't think that I could handle it because it was such an honor 'cause she is so beloved, and rightly so. And she's so— beautifully extraordinary and ordinary side. She honors her ordinariness in such an inspiring— I, I really can't believe I can even talk about her in this fashion.

It's so funny you say that. She's so, so, so talented. Like, and I've— she's probably— her and Meryl, probably the 2 most influential actresses in— for me growing up. Um, but she never felt above or below us ever.

She never put herself that way.

Never put one down.

Yeah, never. She was always just like, just her.

There's a million people that would've wanted to talk to me today about you.

I know about this part of your thing. I'm nervous. I'm like excited and nervous. And you got someone to come and say something good. You have so many friends.

You have so many talented friends and they all love you and they all wanna— it's, you know, it is a really— you should know that it's a really nice thing when you have a guest on and there's there's like so many people that would want to—

Come on.

Speak well behind your back.

That's crazy.

But we talked today to Lin-Manuel Miranda.

Oh.

And, um, he talked about the process, you know, of, of working with you and, and how, you know, when he said, you know, um, can you sing? And, you know, and you were like, when are you gonna make this? And he was like, in a year. And you were like, yes. Which is amazing. I love that. And that Because now knowing a little bit more about your competitive spirit, I understand that, which is like, I'll, I'll do, I can do it, coach.

Yes.

Yes. So true. Um, his question was, he, he just spoke a little bit about how, what a good swimmer you are and how he didn't know that. And, and he called you the Michael Phelps of acting, which, you know, not that big of a deal. Hmm.

A lot of competition there.

No.

Who would that be?

Me?

I don't know who else.

But, um, yeah. Do you swim a lot? Do you like to swim?

I still swim.

Yeah.

I still swim.

Yeah.

Yeah.

'Cause it, I, I, I, I surf now. I, it's translated.

Yeah, it's like my gymnastics. I was a gymnast when I was a kid. That translated into Spider-Man stuff.

Yeah.

I took all of the stuff that my dad was trying to discipline me with, and I turned it into something like a funner version of those things. With swimming, it was up at 5:00 AM. Swimmers, they train. It's crazy.

I know.

So I turned that into surfing. My paddle is pretty strong, and I can— yeah. So I surf more than I swim, but I swim I don't really swim swim anymore. I'll do open water swimming and swimming in the sea and swimming in ponds and natural places.

Yeah. Do you have long arms?

I don't think that's any of your business.

Fine.

Fine. Well, I'm not going to tell you what Lynne said.

I know that your least strong sense is your vision, but you could have made an effort to just look at the arms.

I'm like, do you have long arms?

Can you clear something up for me? It's just been bugging me this whole time. Are your arms long or are they short? Where are they? Come closer to me.

I need to smell and see if your arms are long. Okay. But he said, first of all, he was like, ask Andrew what— he said—

The only way is I Columbo with his—

Oh my God.

The only way I can figure it out.

Oh, that's a good Peter Falk. Peter Falk, me and him have the same birthday. Not too bad.

Let me smell— just one more thing. No, one more thing. Let me smell your arms. Just because the murderer had particularly long swimmer's arms.

I don't know.

I just— not wearing my glasses, but my nose is strong. So I'd like to just— ah, never mind. I'm out. Ah, one more thing.

One more thing. Can I smell your arm? I just want to see if it smells like chlorine. You've been in the pool. Oh, shit. God, Peter Falk. Fucking Peter Falk. You guys remember Peter Falk, right? If you— anyone under the age of 50? Columbo. Goddamn it. Love Columbo so much. But so, Lynn's question for you was, um, what other secret— you know, he had a 2-parter. First was like, what other secret— what other secret thing are you good at that we don't know yet? I know. He's like, tell us now so director can know. But he basically was basically saying, Does anything feel like too much of a challenge? You really take on a lot of challenges for the work that you do. You're game.

Yeah. That's a cool question. It's a question that I've been asking myself. You know what I'm really scared of?

Yeah?

I'm going to tell you anyway. Being a dad scares The shit out of me.

You're gonna be so great.

It scares me so much.

You're gonna be so great. Don't even worry about it. Seriously. Even if you get 50—

Mommy's proud of my hair. Is that what you're saying? Mother is proud. Mother is proud.

Mother is proud.

Look at all that.

If you're gonna be— the fact, Andrew, that you even say it.

Well, I mean, I think that would be the biggest, most important thing I ever probably do. Yeah. And I know that to be true. It makes me want to cry thinking about it.

Cry, cry, cry, cry. I love when boys cry on here. Cry, cry, cry. Talk about being a dad.

It's like, fuck, man.

Yes. You'd be so good.

I know what it's like to be on the other end of it. You know what I mean? I've been a child.

I've been a son. Yes, we have all been born from dads and sometimes not.

Right?

Right. I don't know. Well, don't cancel us.

Don't get— I'm sorry. We all— we're all born however we want. Fuck. Wait, but let's get back to you crying. But you're gonna be such a good dad. You're gonna nail it.

I want to do it. I do want to do it. And I, and I, and it kind of— you can sometimes feel a bit selfish with, I want to be there. Well, I don't know. I don't know. So in terms of a challenge, I can't imagine a greater challenge than taking that kind of responsibility. And then there was another question about stuff I'm good at. I'll respond in a sad way.

Always.

And it relates back to the body failing.

Oh my God, what are you gonna say? I'm gonna grab some felt real quick. Just grab something.

Get that felt back in my hand. Get that touch going. Yeah, sweet felt.

Let's do a little— yeah.

I, um, I was playing basketball recently. I love basketball, and I thought— I think I'm pretty good at basketball.

I have a theory about this. Uh, I think the worst injuries happen with men in their 40s when they play basketball.

It's a theory that's backed up with a lot of evidence.

Go ahead. What did you do?

The Columbo sister.

Columbo's sister. She comes in, she's like, Columbo, let's get outta here. And he goes, wait a minute, just— She's like, you said you were leaving like 10 minutes ago. Columbo's sister is like, get in the car. Jesus, you had your keys in your hand for 10 minutes. I've been waiting in the car. Columbo's like, just a second. Okay, sorry, sorry. Okay, basketball. Let's get back on track.

I was playing basketball with some friends. I was playing with Woody Harrelson.

Oh, great. He's a good basketball player. I know that.

White Men Can't Jump is one of my all-time favorite movies. Yeah. You're holding these felts like they're cards in a poker game.

I'm like, do you have—

You just turn everything into a game.

Are we playing Uno? Do you have orange cheese? Great. Okay, sorry. Come on, Andrew, focus!

If anyone's not watching this and just listening to it on the podcast, fuck, I'm so sorry. I'm sorry for most of what's been happening. Oh, Jesus Christ. I was playing with Woody, who I love and I've been a fan of forever. And White Men Can't Jump is just one of those all-time great movies. And his is one of my all-time favorite performances of all time. All time, all time, all time. And I was so excited to play with him. And then as soon as we got on the court, I just froze.

I was just like— You got in your head.

I was just like the 7-year-old at the party that just wants to go home.

Oh, God, yeah. Yes. Oh, God, yes.

I was just so scared.

It was like fight or flight or freeze.

I folded. I fully froze and folded. And I played really badly. I just want to apologize to all of my game.

And that's tough for a competitive person like you.

Yeah, I froze. I was just like, I love Woody so much, and I've been wanting to play with him for so long, and it was finally our time. And he still plays great. And he's like, you know—

I don't think he should. Woody, if you're listening, you're gonna blow out your knee.

He's taking really good care of himself, but he's fiercely competitive. And I love it. I absolutely love it. Anyway, so, um, a thing that I thought was a hidden talent, Lynn, turns out, uh, it's gone. It was never maybe there. So there we have it.

You made a movie that took place in 1381.

Yeah.

And it is about a peasant uprising. It looks badass. It's cool. It looks— I, I saw the trailer for it, and, and the feeling of, like, Whoa, this is a very political, very interesting movie to make right now. And what is it about?

Yeah, it's about true events in that period of British history. It's called the Peasants' Revolt, and it was a big uprising among the ordinary folk of the British Isles that came together in an organized way. And it's told— the story is told in a way that is very unique, and it's because it's set It's one of my favorite directors of all time, Paul Greengrass.

Yeah.

People would've seen a lot of his amazing films like Captain Phillips or the Bourne series movies with Matt Damon, or United '93, or Bloody Sunday, The News of the World with Tom Hanks. Some of my favorite films of all time. And I've wanted to work with Paul forever. And it brings up really interesting questions about revolution, about violence in revolution, whether it's needed, whether it's not. how change can happen without some form of military coup. Like, it's really a visceral story.

It's so cool. It looks incredible.

And it's a ride as well. It's also just like a really entertaining kind of action film. It's like a really cool movie.

And it also has my scariest kind of villain, which is a boy king.

Oh, yeah. Boy king. Tyrant boy king.

Tyrant boy king.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, there's nothing scarier.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it was real.

Richard— this King Richard 14 years old.

14.

And at that time, this is what's crazy, at that time, and it wasn't metaphorical, it was literal, the king was the messenger of God's word on the earth. So anything that the king uttered was literally treated like it was sent from heaven above. And any equivocation of that meant you were a treasonous and traitor to the throne. So anything that this boy decides, this 14-year-old boy who is being governed a lot by these money-hoarding, power-hoarding, land-hoarding oligarchs, was treated, had to be, there was no question. It was just like, that's the way it is. Water is wet. Sky is blue. The king is God on earth. Okay, that's that. So that level of power, it's a really interesting thing for right now.

I need to finish our— I need to finish. You need to go. You have like 45. But 45 other things to do today.

But no, this is lovely. I love it.

But I want to finish by asking you the question I ask everybody, which is, what are you listening to, watching, numbing out with?

What kind of numbing out, man?

Okay, what do you— what do you— what video do you like? What movie?

What video? What's your video?

What's your video? Sometimes it's just a video of like a bird eating.

What's your video right now?

We're back on the first date now. We're back in the first date. What's your favorite video? What video do you watch when you want to turn off your head?

Yeah, what's the video?

What video do you watch?

My favorite video right now is— I've been watching a lot of Roy Horn, of Siegfried and Roy fame, because I play Roy Horn in this upcoming Apple TV show. and we just finished. Did you not know this?

I love this for you.

Bro, it's really fun.

You're playing Roy Horn? Yeah.

So I've been watching lots of Roy Horn videos.

Is that why your hair is so luscious?

Yes, yes. That's partly. But then we just end up putting wigs on of the same hair.

Yeah.

It's like, can I get a wig of this on this head? Yeah, great. That makes sense. No, no, no. It does make sense.

Oh my God.

We're playing them through— me and Jude Law. Jude Law's playing Siegfried. And we're playing them through the decades, from their 20s through to their 60s.

Incredible story.

It's amazing. So fun. It was so hard.

Manticore.

Manticore. Maneater. It means maneater.

Excuse me?

The name means maneater.

I did not know that. The tiger that—

There was an incident with.

We say incident.

There was an incident. There was an accident.

There was an accident.

Because who knows exactly what happened.

It was named Manticore, which means maneater.

Which means maneater.

I cannot wait for this project.

And Roy Hand raised him.

Yeah. Wow.

And Roy— so I'm obsessed. And I'm still obsessed. That's a good sign that I've— we were prepping for a year, we shot it for 6 months, and I'm still obsessed with Roy. I still adore him and his spirit.

Yes.

So, I've just been watching lots of footage of him for the last year and a half, and I continue to watch it 'cause I just adore him.

And have you handled tigers? Have you been near tigers?

I have been near tigers, yes. But only in a very legal and safe way. But I did feed a tiger. By hand, which was kind of incredible.

Tigers are amazing. And I say to them, good day, sir.

Yes.

I say to tigers, and it is nice to meet you, and I shall take my leave. Because tigers scare the fuck out of me.

Yeah.

They're so—

They lived with them.

I know.

He hit a thing in the morning. He hit a button as he woke up, and it sent a bell into the garden, letting the tiger that he wanted know it was time to come and snuggle. The tiger came into the house, came up to the bed, jumped on bed, and they snuggled to wake Roy up. He was—

Incredible.

Something else, man.

Yeah.

He was something else.

Andrew Garfield.

Amy Poehler.

We have talked so much. This was so fun. A lot of yapping.

We yapped.

We yapped, yeah.

We had a yap fest.

I knew we would.

Me too. It's been a while.

I know. It's so fun to be with you. I love talking to you.

I feel like we're from the same planet in some regard. I feel like we're from some kind of same universe, which I love just being with you, and I always have. I remember when I first met you, it was with Jane Aronson, Dr. Jane Aronson of the Worldwide Orphans Foundation. And I was really nervous to meet you because I'm just a huge fan of yours, and I just think you're just so wonderful. I hadn't known many famous people at that point, And you were just so warm and engulfing and encouraging and caring in such a genuine way that made me feel a lot of hope for being a person in this world. And you're a beautiful, beautiful person. I really adore you.

Oh, Drew, thank you so much. You smell so good. Everyone should know. It's I'm here to say, Andrew smells great, just like we thought. Andrew Garfield, everybody. Andrew Garfield, that was so fun. Oh, you're just a real silly billy. I had such a good time with you. Thank you so much for doing this. And, and for this Polar Plunge, you know, we talked about some great people that Andrew worked with, including Sally Field. And I just wanted to remind everybody, if you're looking for a movie, a beautiful movie that's filled with heart and love, and will make you cry, and it's all about, like, the spirit of a woman saving her farm, check out a movie called Places in the Heart with Sally Field and Danny Glover and a young John Malkovich and Ed Harris and Amy Madigan. And it's so, so good. Not enough people talk about this movie, and it's one of my favorites. Places in the Heart. Sally Field, I love you. Andrew Garfield, we love you. Thank you so much for doing this episode. And thanks, everybody, for listening.

Thank you.

See you soon. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paperkite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullen, Aleah Zaneras, Bridget Gearlings, Paige Garbarini, Belle Roman, and Drew Van Steenburgen. For Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss-Berman.

Berman.

Original music by Amy Miles. I'll have the one who was a really good hate.