Transcript of Jennifer Lawrence

Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. Very excited about our guest today, Jennifer Lawrence. Jen and I, we have a good time, and we laugh a lot in this episode, and we talk about a lot of great things. Her incredible career, the surprising parts of Parenthood, her long torso, my short legs. And we do what we always like to do here in Good Hang. We sing along to Shania Twain. But before we get started, we want to talk to somebody who knows our guest, who can speak well behind her back, and give me a question to ask this guest. We are joined by Justine Schiracke. Justine is a producer. She runs Excellent Cadaver, the production company that's produced films like Causeway and Die My Love, and her and Jen have been friends forever. Justine, are you there? Let's get started. This episode of Good Hang is presented by Nespresso. Nespresso. For those who never compromise on their morning rituals, especially their coffee ritual, Nespresso's new Virtuo Up makes your first cup irresistible. With a three-second start, easy open lever and dedicated coffee creations mode button, it's even easier to brew bold coffee over ice or milk.

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Hey, girl. Hi.

I'm really happy to talk to you today because I think the stuff that you guys have done together is really, really special. But also you just shared a long history together as people in the world and friends.

Well, that's very generous of you to say. And obviously, we've been enormous fans for a hundred years. So it's such an honor to talk to you. And I'm like, pinching myself. And she is, too, that she's coming on the podcast.

Oh, my God. She's so good at podcasts. I mean, she's so good at talking.

That's her shit, for sure.

Now, before we start talking about Jennifer, I do want to talk about you. Where did you grow up?

I grew up in Wilmington, Delaware. I actually think we have Aubrey Plaza in common. I grew up with Aubrey and did community theater with her. You did? Like my childhood, yes.

You guys went to the same... You were in the same town?

Yeah, we went to the same elementary school, and we both were in community theater at the Wilmington Drama League, an esteemed venue for most of our childhood. Oh, my gosh.

What was Baby Plaza like?

Exactly the same as Adult Plaza. Yeah. It hasn't changed a bit. The greatest, the greatest.

What a small world. And so the two of you are there doing shows and performing. And then where How does that take you after you graduate?

I didn't really know where I would fit in film. I took a bunch of odd jobs and explored. And during that period, I met Jen.

And what was your first impression of her when you met?

My first impression of Jen was that she was a wild beast. And also that she had... Because Jen didn't have a traditional education, she also swerved a lot of the social anxiety that I think a lot of people our age had been plagued with. So Jen had this abandon and lack of self-consciousness that was really unfamiliar to all of our friends. So we were wide-eyed by her. And I think that that's something that she still possesses all these years later. It's something that she hasn't outgrown. She has not become jaded by her totally surreal lifestyle.

So how do you go from two young women sitting on a couch in a small LA apartment to running this big company and making these big movies? How does that work?

Oh, man. I mean, it's a loaded question. I think that we met as young women and obviously developed our taste together. We were discovering film together. Everything from Blancar Y to sex in the city. It ran the gamut. I also I also think that we became best friends. We care about similar things. We're moved by similar things. We have similar reactions to life and what's happening in the world. And that really is the basis for our decision making around what we take on as producers. I think the obviously extraordinary happenstance of Jen, Jen's young success and her being in incredible position to get things made. And then Jen and I continuing to care for our relationship and continuing to grow together. I think the odyssey has involved A ton of hard work and care and all the things you would imagine. Also us continuing to grow and being excited to elevate each other.

Also, I loved Causeway. Oh, thank you. Such a beautiful movie. I want to talk to Jen about it. It's just a great, great movie. Beautiful director, Laila. We love Laila. Brian, Thierry Henry, is so good. Jen is so convincing as the character that she plays, like a physically and spiritually wounded vet who's returning home. It's so good. Such a good movie.

It's always so nice to see in those roles where the stripped back, quieter performances where it's so much of it is just happening in her eyes. I don't.

I don't know how to act like that. We were talking We were talking about an interview here, and it's hard not to be like, You're so good at acting. But she is so good at acting.

She's good. That's pretty fucking good.

Are there times when you're watching her and you're like, damn, she's really good at acting?

Every time. I've sat on probably 11 sets with Jen, and every time my mind is just like, blowing out of my face. I'm like, Still? It does not get old. She just levels up every time.

You know her really well. Sometimes we ask people to talk well behind our guests back, and they've worked with them, or they know them, but you know her really, really well. You've known her for a really long time, and you're deep partners in work and your loving friends in life. And what do you think I should ask her today? What do you want to know about, hear about, or what do you think she'd want to talk about or a story she'd want to tell?

Oh, man. I mean, with Jen, it's funny because she is so transparent in the spaces. I don't think that she's somebody who... Or there are a ton of subjects that are off limits.

Well, it's Okay, this is really helpful because I've been prepping for the interview, and I don't want to put her in an uncomfortable position ever to ask her something she doesn't want to talk about. But she also feels really well aware of what she feels comfortable talking about, I guess. I think she is.

And I think she'll also tell you. I think she'll pivot if she needs to.

You never have to answer a question if you don't want to answer it. And it's a magic trick to not answer it. And People often forget what question they asked. I mean, this isn't a good thing to tell a guest, probably. This is probably not a good thing to get. But anyway, it doesn't have to be a heavy question. It can be something small, anything that you think we should ask her today. I mean, gosh.

Maybe because she's in a position of constantly being asked questions and she is never in charge of what is being asked, maybe it's asking her, what would you like to talk more about that you don't feel?

Whoa, that's a good friend.

It's an opportunity to declare. Maybe she has a big announcement or just something that she'd like to reflect on. You know what?

That's a really good friend because what you're basically saying is just check in with her and see if there's anything else she wants to talk about. Yeah. It's so true.

She is tired of talking about. That, too.

Yeah. It's basically like you're at the TSA, and it's like, what do you want to declare?

Yeah.

And what perishables would you like to get rid of?

Totally. Yeah.

Well, no, but thank you so much. And I will give your best to Aubrey Plaza. I like picturing you guys being weird together in Wilmington.

Yeah, that's the right picture.

Justine, thank you so much for your time. Really appreciate it.

Thank you. Thank you for having me. Of course.

All right. Nice talking to you.

I like to watch.

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Hi. My voice was so deep. Hi. Hi.

I'm very excited that you're here.

I'm so excited to be here. I am a really, really huge fan.

Oh, come on. Say more.

No, I'm obviously being sarcastic.

I was worried about what to wear today because your style is so dope. Thank you. You have a great style.

Oh, my God. That's the only thing you need to say to me. I want to know, how do you pick clothes? What is your relationship to clothes? Okay, thank you so much. We'd love to talk about this.

I'll just- Because I'm fascinated because I'm struggling with mine.

Well, I have very opinionated friends, one in particular, a very opinionated friend. I do a lot of closet cleanouts. I think living in New York helps with that. I don't have a lot of excess stuff that confuses me. I have things that I really like.

Do you plan your outfits for the... I mean, obviously with press, it's different. Loosely.

I mean, I- Are you planning your outfits for the week? I do it mentally. I start planning something, and I take my kid to school and I know that I'm going to get photographed. I do do a mental...

How do I want to present today? No. No.

Because the answer is always the same. Today, I want to present as effortless, but really, who's this girl?

How she gets so pretty. I don't even know what I put on.

You know what else is really important to remember? Tell me. You can write it down.

I'm ready.

Big goes with big.

Okay, this is a tall girl.

This is tall girl. No, but if it's going to be tight, if you're going to have a baggy and a tight, you cannot ever have tight on the bottom, baggy on the top, or you'll look like a lamp. You can have baggy on the bottom and tight on the top, but you cannot do the other way around.

I'll tell you something about baggy on the bottom. I wore a baggy on the bottom for you today. You did? Yeah, I'll show you later. I have baggy pants. I'm so short. It's tough.

Yeah.

It's tough. It's tough to go baggy on the bottom.

But I have short legs but a really long torso. Big, thick, meaty arms.

Okay, so long torso. I see. Then that silhouette. You know your silhouette?

I guess. Yeah.

Knowing is not loving. You got great style. Thank you. Like you, I'm always just looking to see how women are dressing. Just truly, how do we... Not just the styles and fads.

No, I try to take mental notes when I see something.

When I actually feel comfortable, it feels like such a win to wear something that you feel like you look good in and you also feel good in. It's a hard thing to find.

Yeah, you feel like you're representing yourself accurately. Yeah.

Or the worst thing is when you're like, I think I nailed it. Then you see the picture and you're like...

Years later. Not even years later. Oh, my God.

You're like, I remember I'm feeling really good. Yeah.

I had that recently because I was postpartum, but I was like... But I had... With my second, I had bad postpartum, so I wasn't eating. So I felt really skinny. Right. But I wasn't.

But inside you felt.

I was like, strapless? Let's do this. And my baby was three weeks old.

I mean, you, a lot of people, we're working through a lot of your pregnancies. And that's also a weird thing, too, because you're bringing your body along for the ride.

Well, I was surprised more people haven't talked about how skinny I am and I, my love, because I'm pregnant. I've been waiting and nobody said it. Nobody's like, Wow, you were pregnant? You looked so skinny. I've never had an Ozempic rumor.

Not yet. Not yet? Not yet, honey. Not yet. After this, after this, we're going to take this frame and we're going to squeeze it down. No, but it is true.

When you talk about how tall I am, I'm like,.

No, but I love what you've been talking about. We have so many things to talk about today. I just want to start by saying this is what I've gleaned from meeting you briefly and feeling like I know people who know you really well. Just like... Who? I don't want to talk about them.

My mom.

They asked me to be your mom. I'm best friends with your mom. You seem, and I know it's going to sound cheesy, but you like women. Oh, yeah. I know. I do.

You do.

It shows.

What do you think? I love white men. Oh, my God. If I could just be their champion. They're so misunderstood.

You're always like, Wait, think about the other side. Not all men.

I have it tattooed. No, but you know, you...

And the reason why, to me, it's not what you say. It's not what one says is what they do. And what you do all the time that I think women do for each other is you tell the real, real behind something. You Or you talk about, this was difficult, or I'm thinking about this, or you basically... I think when people stay mysterious, it's like a disservice to other women. It's just like, okay. And you do this thing that I really appreciate that comes through, which is you're trying to be honest in real-time and trying to connect. I think that's what women do for other women when they like women. That's the best way to say it. Thanks. That's really nice. Today, when I was thinking about our interview, I was like, I've been really hearing you talk about how you're trying to figure out the balance between who do I want to be and what parts of me do I want to give out to the rest of the world and what parts do I want to keep for myself, which feels like a very '30s- Totally. Where are you at right now with the balance of that?

Because you are so famous and so real.

Oh, thank you.

And those two things are not always the case.

Right. I think that when I do press, I should do half than what normal people do because I see my quotes and they're insane. Jennifer Lawrence calls Courtney Kardashian annoying. It's just too, you know?

Yeah, you're right.

But it- It carries.

It carries. But it's... Well, first of all, honestly, it's funny because you're so funny. Thank you. And the third piece of the puzzle, I'll say, is that you're very... You feel like a real person. You're very erotic.

Oh, I thought you were going to say erotic. You've had your hand on my knee this entire interview, and it's a long stretch.

You have a really long arm.

These pants are baggy.

Really too baggy to get in there. No, you're famous and erotic and real and deeply funny. Thank you.

Oh, my God, you have no idea what that's like coming from you. You're my hero.

Dude, but I don't say that to everybody. And God is fair. Usually, you don't have all those things going at once. Usually, you have a very important, interesting actor who's really good at acting, but maybe not the funiest, or you have a deeply funny person who you wouldn't maybe believe in a scene, but you can do both.

Oh, thank you. You're deeply deeply. I could do this all day.

Okay, well, I'm glazing it as the kids like to say.

Is that what they say? You don't know. Are you glazing? Well, you've got teenagers.

What do you want to know about teens? I know everything. You have two boys, I have two boys.

I missed my window to really ask about 6/7. I know that it's like... It's over now. I know. I missed the window, so I don't even care anymore.

Actually, anything that we know is over.

Right. By the time it gets to your mom.

Yeah, if the New York Times is writing about it, it's been over. It's over. No one's saying it anymore. But to explain 6/7. I really, really like boots. Instead of period, boots.

But that's from Drag Race.

I'm deceased.

Boots. Well, period, end of boots.

Right. I feel like period is still around. I feel like period- But you're supposed to replace it with boots, I think.

Or that's just a gay culture thing. I don't actually know.

Yeah. I have a laptop. We could look it up. We could spend the entire- We could ask ChatGPT.

Hello. Do we still say boots? Is it a young culture or just gay monoculture?

Asking for a friend. But I- I'm asking What is it for? You're in your mid-30s now. I bet you're starting to feel just what you just expressed, which is like, oh, old. Oh, yeah. But it's weird, right? Because you do not feel old. One does not really feel old in their 20s.

My assistant is 23. Okay. And so I was doing a closet clean out yesterday, and she was like, Oh, my God, these are real skinny jeans. It was like an artifact. She was like, Wow, they really do go in at the bottom. And I'm like, and we were talking about Baby Mama. And I'm like, so funny, so funny. She was like, that was probably the first comedy I ever saw. And I was like, how old were you? Seven.

You're a millennial?

Yeah.

Like mid-millennial?

I don't know when it begins or ends, but I was born in '90.

I feel like you would like this, but we'll probably cut it. But there's this book that I'm obsessed with called The Fourth Turning. It's all about how 80 years of history just keep repeating itself. We're getting at the end of the chaos era, which makes sense for the past 20, whatever years. But it's like each generation throughout the years have come forward to save different eras from peril. The millennials are going to be the heroes in the next... Good luck.

That sounds so hard.

I'm so tired. But I believe in you, and I wish you the best of luck.

I was hoping that these kids would save us.

No, it's you guys. I feel like that makes sense because we've really... I'm Gen X. Everybody really gave it to millennials and roll their eyes at how well-parented they were, how blah, blah, blah. We just thought that they were. I think they're going to really show us. They're going to save things. So chop, chop.

Okay. All right. I'll try. Thanks so much. It is funny when you see what gentle parenting is going to do. Yeah.

But okay, speaking of gentle parenting, this is a good segue. I want to get to you go from... I'm blown away by the story, and I'm sure you've told it before, but I just need to know the details, which is Louisville, you're on a trip to New York with your mom, and a guy comes up on the street and says, Can I take your picture? Here's my card. Yeah, tell us the story.

Well, he took... Okay, I will tell you the story, and I feel like I'm I'm lying. Okay.

It's an amazing story.

Okay. But it is the truth, but it's just one of those... I'm like a woman, so I feel like I have to apologize, and then I'm lying. I was in New York, I'm sorry, for spring break, and I was watching street dancing in Union Square. Never seen that before. Not a lot of street dancing in Louisville. A man named Daniel, who is a talent scout, came up to me and my mom and was like, Can I take her picture? I'm like, A model scout. We were just like, Cool. Okay. No sense of danger. If he had told us to meet him at a hotel room, we 100% would have. Totally. Then he took my picture on the street. Joe Jonas actually wore the picture on his T-shirt at a concert one time, and it was the first time I had seen that picture since it happened. I was like, How did Joe Jonas get it? That's so weird. I've since seen it. Got it. I don't really know what to do with it. I'm not going to print it out. Then I went and started being interviewed by modeling agencies. And what was becoming really apparent was if you're a model, you're a model.

If you're a model, you're traveling, you're not acting. There's no commercials. So somewhere in those interviews, I decided that I would only sign with an agency that would also let me act, even though it hadn't been an actual.

Did you know any actors growing up? Did you think you would do that as a job?

No, never. But then once it was brought up as a possibility, I I did, I would always watch Hilary Duff when I got home from school, and then I would do Hilary Duff in the mirror. So it all came together.

But it is really random that someone came up and was like, Hey, kid, throw this pitch, and you have the most amazing fastball. You're so good at acting. Oh, thank you. The fact that someone was like, Hey, do you want to go do this acting thing? I mean, I guess it was through modeling, but they were like, Hey, you. I mean, it's so wild. It's a needle in a haystack. Do you think you would have pursued it if that didn't happen?

I don't think so. I don't think I would have been aware that that was possible. Although being in the big city, I was like, Oh, I want to live here. I want to live in a big city.

Did you have a vibe? Yeah. You know when you look back at your life sometimes and you see Christmas cards where people say, Hope you make it to New York someday. You think like, did you ever feel like you had that version of like, I want to get out of Louisville.

I want to go somewhere else? Yeah, I think when it was happening, I think like, I mean, I really wasn't there for that long when I think about it, 13, 14 That's normally before you even start getting those. So once I came back, it was just an impossible fever. It was just like, I got to get back there. I got to do what I got to do. And I had made money. I used to train horses, and I would babysit. So I had $3,000. So I was like, I'm getting out of here. Let's get out of here.

You trained horses? Mm-hmm. Wow. You proved my point that I feel like women and young girls that like horses usually have great Wow. Always. I don't know. I have a bunch of theories, and one of them is that if you like horses, it makes your hair grow really thick.

Oh, my God. Because you know what? A friend of mine, every time she's on mushrooms, thinks that I look like my little pony.

You have fantastic- This is for you, Rachel.

This is for you, Rachael.

Are you rolling right now because your mind is going to be blown. But when I was looking at your life and career, and I was blown away by how much stuff happened so fast and young in the years of 19 to 22. Yeah. That way, that's a lot in those years.

That's why I was so emotional over those skinny jeans. They were my 23-year-old rag and bones.

Yes. That was a tender time. I was. Because what year were you? 2012?

2012. Because you did Winter's Bone, a beautiful movie, incredible performance when you were 19.

Then you do SNL close to that time, too, the following year, maybe?

Did I? Yeah, '20. Yeah, because it was before the Oscars for Silver Lining. In Winter's Bone, I remember being too young to drink. I did. But at the Oscars.

And what were your memories of doing SNL at that time?

Skewed.

I feel like you- I've read it.

You weren't on the cast then?

No, 2012. I had left in 2008. And then by 2012, I was doing Parks and Rec.

Okay. I don't think I think I have to go back and do it again because I had walking ammonia. I was under a lot of pressure and doing a lot. And I was shooting one of the Hunger Games movies. I was shooting, I think, the second one while doing all of this campaign. I would have to fly, go to a party, shake hands, and then land and shoot. Like, bore me. But I was very tired. I remember I was also at that bad age. I don't know if other people were like this at this age, but we're like, when you get asked, can you do any impressions or anything? And I was like, no.

Yeah.

I don't want to be like, and I can do this and I can do that. I just made everything like everybody else's problem. I was like, I don't know how to do that. I can't do that.

Totally. I know. Also, it's hard to be young in on that show. It's just hard. But your relationship to comedy, what is it like now? Do you want to make more, do more, direct more, write more? I would love...

I wrote a comedy. You did? I would love to direct it, and I'll start in it. Yeah. And I'll start.

Oh my God, you should.

Thank you.

No Hard Feelings was great. You were hilarious in it. Thank you. It was such a good movie.

I did not write and direct that one. I guess I could tell people that I did. I always could.

People don't listen. They don't pay attention.

After I wrote and directed No Hard Feelings, it really got me thinking. But thank you. I had a lot of fun doing it.

And you want to direct as well? Yeah. Yeah. Right on.

Yeah. Great. I mean, everybody does.

I think that's true. I feel sometimes people are not into it, but I feel like... I mean, are you finding that having worked now and done a lot of stuff now that you're realizing, Oh, I want more control in what I do and how I like to work?

Yeah. But I also My first movie ever was a female director, and then I actually ended up working with more female directors than male directors. So as a teenager, it was really, not formidable. Formidable? Yeah, formidable.

Formidable. Formidable.

Formidable.

Formidable? Hold on.

It was farming culture for me. That made me realize- I got to get this word.

It's formidable, right?

No, it's formative.

Formative.

Informative?

Well, it's a formative experience.

Formative. Is that what it is, formative?

Yeah, here we go. Formative. Something that relates to formation or development, shaping and influencing something else.

That is precisely what I mean.

Yeah, we did it.

It was formative that I realized that that was even possible for me to do it. I had wanted to do it since I was a teenager. Then when I went into movies in my 20s and now, I always tell the director, and then they include me. A lot of them have been really nice and included me in the process and let me see post and all that stuff.

What's important for you when you work? What's the thing you like to do? For example, do you feel like once I'm on set, I want to escape and just dive in and I want other people to handle the stuff? Do you like the logistics of the work?

Oh, I do like the logistics. You do.

You like a call sheet and you like knowing what's going to happen.

Yeah, but I think that's a woman's brain. It's so true. My producer partner and I have been on sets together since we were 21, and we fuck up a call sheet. When I have a friend that's going to go do something, I'm like, Send me your call sheet. I'll get you two days. We just know how to make it make sense. It's divine. I like the logistics. I also I need to connect and have friends immediately. I got to dive in and find the camera guys. I got to find who my people are going to be.

That's so interesting. You got to... Yeah, because you're like, we're going to be in.

Which is not a photoshoot. Right. Photoshoot, I don't want you to talk to me. I just want...

I totally agree. I just want it to be over as fast as possible.

It's just all of it's so embarrassing. Put your hand like this.

Or if you're considered a funny person, the worst part is they're like, We have a bunch of props. Oh, no.

You have this in your mind? We have clown shoes for you, you fucking clown. Put on the shoes, you fucking clown.

But it's so true. I mean, I've been in many shoes where a chill goes down. Just when they're like, It's always a whisper, There's a bunch of fun props if you want to play with them in any way.

If you want to play with them like you're a baby.

You look over and you're like, Oh, no. It's like a giant lollypop and a rubber chicken.

Yeah, that's not going to come naturally to me. If you want me to pull on the rubber chicken, I will, but you have to direct me to pull on it.

The other thing is we have a really fun idea. You have all this barbecue sauce on your face. It's always like, we're going to humiliate I really ate you. You're going to smile your way through it. You're such a good time. Right.

Okay. No, mine aren't that bad.

I'm shocked to hear that. Well, I'm not shocked.

They're just like, We were thinking you wouldn't wear a bra for this. I'm like, I've had two children. They're like, No. They're like, But maybe... You want me to show you something? Come here. I'm going to show you something.

All your figures are you just flashing.

Yeah.

Because a good hang, we're always looking for a good hang. I have questions I want to ask you. I want your opinion about things. Oh, okay. I want your hot takes.

Okay. Oh, yeah. No problemo. I know. You like to give hot takes. Yeah.

And these are important things.

Okay. I got to take it easy on the housewives, so I always get...

I get like... Okay, I'm going to tell you something about... I don't know that much about housewives.

Okay. No, no, no. It's fine. I mean, that's good.

But you like below deck.

Yeah, I do.

First question. If you were on below deck, what would you want your job to be? Which is the jobs?

Oh, a stew. Chief stew? Well, no. No? No. I would go into that laundry and I'd fuck that laundry up. I'd put a podcast in, I'd steam, I'd fold. I'd have system. I'd have a color-coded system.

I don't mean people never want to go down to the laundry on below deck. It's like, why? You don't have to talk to any of the people. You're there by yourself.

Yeah, I'm alone. Again, I would put one earpod in. I'd listen to some murder, and I just fucking fuck that shit up. It'd be so satisfying. Make that place sparkling. Yeah. Also doing turndown would be one of the most satisfying, then getting the lines in the vacuum perfectly.

Are you a Earth sign? You've got a... I'm Oh, okay. But you have a lot of grounded. You like organizing. You like straight things, straightening. Well, I'm not organized. Is your house neat?

Well, I mean, if you look at my bedside table and then you look at my husband's bedside table, mine is an explosion. Pills everywhere. I mean, I look like I'm dying. What is her malady? And my husband's is just a bottle of water.

Yeah. Okay. But you like...

But I do. I get once it's time to clean up.

You like a good system. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense to me. And then, okay, another question is, do you have a nickname?

Flaufen, Nitro, Boobs. Boobs Lawrence, the full government name. Nitro. Where did Nitro come from? My brother's because I was really hyper, and they called me Nitro.

I love that you are- Oh, and my friends call me Ken from the Barbie movie because I'm just Ken.

I think it's their way of calling me stupid. Whenever I have something stupid, they're like, She's just Ken.

You have two older brothers.

Yeah.

And what was it like growing up with older brothers? Do you feel like there's a thing that happens to... What's the good part about having two older brothers? Is there one?

I mean, I mean, they were great. They were really protective, not with themselves because they were like, you know.

Did it make you tough?

Yeah, I think it made me tough.

As the mother of sons, I will say, and you're going to eventually notice this, too, because you had brothers, the way boys and young boys talk to each other won't be as shocking. You're going to get used to it.

No, in fact, I find myself doing- I do, too.

And that's a love language. When I've noticed the way that you interact with people that you work with, it also feels like you turn people into brothers. It feels like- I think I do. Josh Hutcherson was a brother. It feels like Robert Paterson feels like a brother. Yeah.

Oh, you're so right.

Okay. Doritos, your opinion. Love them. Me, too.

Cool. I mean, but now I'm older and I'm like, think about what in it? I mean, not if I'm on a plane. If I'm on a plane and I see them, I'm going to... Doritos is going to get eight. But I do think about it more.

Okay. Do you do any impressions?

No. Do I? No, I don't think so.

I feel like I've seen you do... I feel like I do. I feel like I've seen you do... Who do I talk about? Real Housewives' Impressions, but no.

I have to text you on my phone.

Or do you want to do the game that we do? We do this game in SNL, Which is it's like, do it or die. And it's basically, you don't have to do it and we can cut it. But it's really fun to play and you can do it to me, too. Would you just give someone a name and they have to do it. I have to do an impression in 10 seconds. It doesn't have to be good. But if you don't do it, you'll die. Okay. You ready? And Robert De Niro.

We. You did it. You did die. Me? I would love to see a recut version of him not saying, Are you talking to me? But just going, Me?

I mean, what What's the coldest day you've ever had on set and the hottest day you've ever had on set?

Coldest was... I mean, I know the real answer was one of the hunger games movies where it was on a frozen lake, but it was actually in Calgary doing Die My Love because it was August. So it was supposed to be warm. And so there weren't warming coats or anything. And I'm just in a T-shirt or whatever. And so that was the coldest. That broke my heart, made me want to cry.

This proves I did cry. This is my theory that Marty Short... You did cry because you were so cold? Yeah. Yeah. This proves my theory that I said to Marty Short, it's never warm in Canada. Never. And it's always fucking freezing. And it's freezing in August always. I know. Canadians pretend like, oh, we had a really nice day. And it's like, you did not have a nice day.

No, you were very cold.

It's really cold. When you're cold and you cry on set- Why didn't you cry on set?

I cried in my trailer to Justine. She was like, What's wrong? I was like, I'm just feeling really cold. I was pregnant, and I just remembered. Yeah. Yeah, of course I cried. I probably cried every day.

Yeah, that movie seems like there was a lot of tears.

Fuck, that's an intense. It was fun. It was fun to play somebody that's like...

It was fun. But you have to do some stuff, man. You have to go for it in some movies that I'm like, This is hard. Screaming all day, crying all day.

All day.

Hard, but you're so blessed.

I'm blessed.

Me? I'm blessed.

Are you talking to me?

Me? That's the last one over here. Hottest day on set.

Hottest day on set.

Hottest time you remember working and it was really hot.

No, I know what you mean. I answered the first one. I obviously put the context together.

I thought maybe you were thinking about something more erratic.

I think it was the first hunger games. Yeah, the first hunger games we were shooting in North Carolina. It was humid, and we had those jackets on.

Oh, yeah. And you had to run in those jackets, too.

And then running in the jackets, yeah.

Speaking of running, I feel like my next question, what I love about you is how you don't feel like you're competitive with other actresses, and you really wish for other people's success. But in a foot race, who would win between you and Emma Stone?

She's got really tiny bones, and I just have very thick bones. What does that mean for running? That's hard to know because it's smaller, thinner bones. I guess it depends on the distance.

You might be faster out of the gate.

I think if I got a clock in, I'd knock her out in two seconds.

Oh, 100%. No offense to Emma if you're listening, but you would definitely knock her out with one punch.

No, I could take her out. If it was a fight or a wrestle, she'd stunt me. But running, I don't know because I don't know if her hollow bones give her an advantage. Yeah.

Carrioke. What's your go to?

Any Man of Mine? Shania Twain.

I don't know that one. This is where your Kentucky comes in. Oh. Any Man of Mine. Yeah. Look how cute she is. I still don't know this.

But you like it, right?

Do you do the Whoop?

Yeah, of course. This is what a woman wants. This is what a woman wants. And a man of mine better be fried of a man. Even when I'm ugly, he still better love me. And I can be late for a date, that's fine. But he better be on time. Any man of mine says it's just right when left here's stress is just a little too tight. And anything I bet is to say it better be okay when I had a bad hair day. And if I change my mind a million times, I want to hear him say, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like it's that way.. Oh my God! You're good. I know. Really good. Very good.

I love karaoke, too.

Yeah, and I'm on key. You were a key?

Yeah. You're a good singer. No. That's not true. I just heard it. I just heard it.

I know you did. We heard it. Okay, anyway, moving on.

All right. Have you ever been awarded a middle or high school superlative? Middle school or high school superlative.

Most talkative. Most talkative? Two years in a row. Third year I had left. I was in New York.

You got to get out of here.

Yeah. I talked my way right out of the building.

Most talkative. Yeah. Most talkative? For me, the three that were like cousins were talkative, class clown, and mischivist. They all were together.

We didn't have those. We had talkative, best smile because I remember not getting that one. You were going for that one? No, I was going for Ms. Kammer.

Ms. What?

Ms. Kammer. Kammer is the name of the school. This is like the rural. I thought you were saying Ms. Kammer.

Kammer middle school. Was the name? Kammer? K-a-m-m-e-r-e-r. Kammer middle school. That's where I went to school.

Okay. We went over this already. Horse is yes or no? Yes. Okay. Do you do that crazy thing where you insist on doing your own stunts? No. And have you ever? I feel like... No. Okay, great. Just keep that up. Okay. Best album or song of the year. What are you listening to that you love?

Oh, I don't know any current music. Once they got rid of the radio, I didn't know. I mean, how am I supposed to know what's coming out? From your phone. But what part of my phone? My phone has podcasts. I mean, playlists.

Do not listen to...

I don't How do you listen to live music on your phone?

Honestly, I usually learn about new music from Instagram or TikTok that I then go and buy.

The Lily Allen. I don't know when this podcast is coming out in the future, but the Lily Allen album dropped a couple of weeks ago.

I love it. So good.

I didn't know it was a Bussy Palace.

And Monagamami.

Monagamami. So good. And Tennis. Tennis might be my favorite song from the album.

She's so talented. I was just saying to someone, I feel like this... I was just saying to someone, I feel like the pop stars, the female pop, they're just dominating in every area of music.

I know. Charlie XX is so cool.

I know. Do you know her? I feel like you guys would hang out.

I don't know her. I mean, would she hang out with me? I don't know. I don't know. Of course she would.

You just call her up.

I will.

Okay, so let me talk about your movie Die My Love, which looks amazing. And you, once again, if I haven't made it clear, you're so good at acting.

Thank you very much. That's really nice.

And you really are doing the thing you're meant to do. Thank you. And do you feel that?

Yeah, definitely.

Do you feel like was there ever a time when you thought there's anything else I would want to do? It just feels like...

Every time I'm on a press store. You're like, You know what?

I think I'm going to get it.

Yes. It just doesn't feel like how does anybody Yeah.

But do you feel like when you get on set, do you feel, or when you're really in the work, you feel super relaxed? Yeah, totally. Yeah.

I mean, it's hard and you're tired and you'd rather be home.

Yeah.

But you're into it. Yeah, so into it.

I love it. This process seemed really cool. Lynn and you and Robert seemed like you guys. Lynn Ramsey, the director, it seemed like you three had some way of working that seemed really creative and cool. Was that true?

Yeah, it was cool because Lynn and I talked about it for years before we really had a script. I felt like we had had so many conversations about this person and about her circumstances that by the time we got there, there was just a lot of freedom. It was scary, an improv-y type of situation where it's just like, go. It's like, under what terms? I know. The circumstances. But it was really, really fulfilling. It was challenging in a nice way.

You're playing somebody who's descending into... Madness. Madness. When you're playing something like that, do you track Are you always trying to figure out where is she at in this scene? How far has she gone?

I thought that I was going to have to do that a little bit more, but it ended up just being finding the truth of what she was saying in the moment, which I think sometimes it didn't end up being as crazy as I thought. But the costumes helped with that because I think they moved from a different place. At first, she dresses really differently and sticks out. Then as she stays there, she starts to blend in with the community. That was a good way that I could mark where my head space would be.

That's a very cool idea. Right. That you're realizing I'm wearing this pair of pants, which reminds me that I'm in this mental space.

That I've been here for eight months.

It's getting back full circle to what we're talking about about clothes. I do feel like clothes... There are certain outfits, for example, that I wore during COVID that I cannot wear again because they just...

What? Oh, because of COVID. Oh, it's like when you wear work pants and then they get ruined because they're work pants.

Or you get broken up with in a shirt and you can never wear it again. Clothes hold some memory. Yeah.

But you got to just get them right out of there.

You got to get them out of there.

Yeah.

Okay, we've mentioned your producing partner, Justine, a few times.

We have?

You have. Oh, really? You've mentioned her twice. Oh, my God. Yeah. She's your best... A really long time friend. Tell us about her.

She's, yeah, my best friend. We met right after I did Winter's Bone, so I was 19. We fell in love with movies. We read together. We discovered I did Walt Whitman together. I think our consciousness woke up together. She was always like... She was my roommate when I started getting really famous. I think I credit her a lot with why I didn't start getting too big for my breaches or anything because everything was really real with her. I'm really I'm lucky to have her. I feel really... I love her a lot. I feel loved by her. I trust her completely. I trust her taste. She's also a really hard worker. She likes hard work. Yeah, I'm really lucky. I wouldn't normally recommend working with friends, but in our case, it's worked out nice.

You guys started a production company, Excellent Cadaver.

Yeah. You produced- About six or seven years ago.

You've been working together for a long time, and your company has produced a bunch of amazing including Causeway, which I think was one of my most favorite things I've ever seen you do. I love that movie. Oh, my God. I love that movie. Thank you. So good.

Thanks.

For people who haven't seen it, check it out. It's you and- Brian Tyree Henry. Brian Tyree Henry, incredible from Atlanta and many other things, incredible actor. You two play vets who are physically and spiritually struggling and back home. It's such a good… Laila is an amazing director.

Laila Nugabauer. It was her first film, but she's a big theater director, and she's great. Sorry, the inside of my ear is itchy. Is this gross?

No, but you know, itchy ears are a sign of perimenopause, so congrats. Congrats, babe.

We'll cut that.

Oh, no, no, no, no, We'll double that. We're going to make it really loud.

It's just like the preview.

We're going to underline it with volume.

We're here with perimenopause suffer, Jennifer Lawrence.

I always thought that would be a good drag name, by the way, is Perimenopause.

Oh, it is. I know. It really is.

But anyway, we talked to Justine.

You did? Yes.

Oh. Because we do this thing where we have people talk about our guests and talk well behind their back and give me a question to ask them. And I talked to Justine today.

I should have... I listened to this podcast. I don't know why I'm still beside me. I'm surprised. What did she say?

She had a really good question, I thought, which was basically like, What do you want to talk about? She was like, Ask Jen what she wants to talk about and what she's sick of talking about.

Oh, that's nice.

I know. I thought that was a good friend question.

I'm sick of talking about the movie. Yeah, great. We won't. We're going to cut it out. I want to talk about What have we not talked about that you want to talk about? Oh, I think we've covered everything. We've talked about things that I would have never known that I wanted to talk about that I wanted to talk about.

Yeah.

I can't answer it.

Okay. Okay. Well, What do you listen to, watch? What makes you laugh? How do you get yourself up the elevator?

Well, you make me laugh.

Thank you.

You're on my algorithm a lot, and you and Tina. And you guys hosted a Golden Globes that I was at, and you were the funniest people I've ever seen in my life. You made me proud to be a woman.

Was that when we said that American Hustle was the title of the way the original title was Explosion at the Wig factory? The way the original title was explosion at the Wig factory.

Yeah.

Okay, but what do you listen to, read, watch? Who makes you laugh?

I watch Veep.

Oh, yeah. We interviewed Julia recently.

You did?

I called her the LeBron James of Comedy. She has won so many championships with different teams, and she rejected that. She wouldn't accept that title. That's so her.

What if she was like, Thank you. I know. Yeah, she's a hero of mine. I love Modern Family.

Are you a true millennial and you watch things that you've watched before just to go to sleep?

Yeah, of course. Yeah. No, I'm Gen Z, and I don't know what they do. You just love your robot. You sell my clothes online that night.

You kiss your robot and sell your clothes.

Yeah.

Well, I feel like we covered so much good stuff. Yeah. I feel great about this interview.

I do, too. I can't wait for it to come out. I'm going to be the first to watch it.

Last question is, I know you do like a lot of reality TV. What show would you want to be on, of all of them?

Well, I mean, want to be on them? I guess the Kardashian's. Because then I'd be on a private plane going to Fiji. That's true. For a photoshoot. Because the other ones, they're not having a Yeah, there's no comfort.

You're right. You're right. Maybe because you just mentioned Amazing Race, and I feel like sometimes there's a little part of me that thinks I would be good.

I tried to go on Bear Grylls.

You did?

And they wouldn't let you? No. What happened was I was determined to do it. I ended up getting pregnant, but I was still going to do it. Then I texted my OB/GYN, and I was like, Hey, so I'm going to be doing Bear Grylls on the 17th. Is there anything I should tell them? And he was like, You're not doing that. I was like, I don't know. And then I just after- Do you know the show, alone?

I love alone.

Oh, my God. Building the fortresses, building the cabins. Isn't building the houses, isn't that the part that you want to do the most?

And if I may, the amount of energy that people build on their houses is fascinating because some people are like, You're going to get way too tired. This house is too nice.

Yeah, they're burning a lot of calories.

They're burning a lot of calories. Yeah. Other people, it's like, You're sleeping under a tarp for six weeks? You got to get your house together. What's wrong with you? I know. The in between of that is fascinating to me.

Yeah, the bugs. It was really satisfying when you're a guy, a white man, didn't bring a fire starter because he was just like, I can do it.

I saw that one. That was really satisfying.

Then they changed it. I had a schadenfreund, if you will.

I also love the men that come on really strong and immediately twist an ankle. Yeah, I do love that. The other thing that takes them down, their stomachs.

I'm surprised that they don't have them just go with Cipro, that Cipro isn't just in there.

Maybe they do.

I don't think they do. It doesn't seem like they do.

The diarrhea takes everything down.

They get diarrhea immediately. Immediately.

I need diarrhea immediately. And men are just, they cannot handle when they don't feel good. They just everything falls the fuck apart. So they're just like, I don't feel good. And you're like, See you later, dude. And the women are just weaving baskets and staying there for 100 days. Anyway, Jennifer Lawrence. Thank you. Thank you for coming.

Thank you for having me.

Thank you for spending time here today.

I think I've overstate my welcome.

If you want any food from the back of the- What if I just grabbed your favorite?

Just grabbed the soup template. It was like, Thank you.

Bye. Thank you so much, Jennifer Lawrence. That was so fun. And thanks for being here. For this Polar Plunge, I always like to dig a little deeper on something that we spoke of in the podcast. I would just highly recommend that you watch Causeway. It's such a great film. Jennifer is so good in it. Brian, Thierry Henry is so good in it. An incredible actor, directed by Laila Noya Barber, and it's just really good. I don't know. I just loved it. I think you will, too. Check it out. Thank you listening. Please come back soon. Bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weis-Burman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paperkite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spalane, Kaya MacMullen, and Elea Zanaris. For Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovelle, and Jenna Weis-Burman. Original music by Amy Miles. All I ever wanted was a really good hang. Jamie Miles. Wow. Hast du den gesehen? Ey, das ist ja der absolute Wahnsinn. Einfach nur perfekt. Nice. Manchmal merkt man sofort, dass es passt. So wie bei den neuen Balance-Sondermodellen von Skoda.

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