Transcript of #3181 RHOBH S15E06 Part Two: Comparative Literature 101

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She's like, Thank you. Wow, look at that. Well, this is Bulgari. This is Chanel. This one is so tacky.

I love how tacky Jennifer Tilly is. It's amazing how I find it gross with Amanda, but I find it hilarious with Jennifer. I don't care.

She's like, Guess what? Well, you'll never guess who make this. Chanel is one of a kind.

I guess the thing is it feels like with Jennifer, it feels like she put some effort into researching this stuff, learning about it, sourcing it, getting it, owning it. It has the pedigree of someone who is a collector and an enthusiast, as opposed to someone like Amanda who's like, I saw something that was expensive, and I bought it, and I put it on, and I'm wearing it, and I'm telling you about it. There's a sense with Jennifer of pride and joy. This altruism. Curated this. There really is. In a way, that also is what makes Rachel Zoe, when she does go shopping, it is more fun to watch than someone else going shopping because for her, it really is like, this is her get down, and this is her art. I think that's how Jennifer pulls it off.

It's like people who know fashion as opposed to some lady from Oklahoma with a Fanny pack walking in and just buying something that says LV all over it.

That's what it is. Las Vegas? That's where I'm having my egg house is.

Did you use the agency? I'll put six eggs on the double zero. Wish me luck.

Does that count as eight eggs then? Double zero? To a let bet. To a let bet.

Yeah, it's a relight bet. So Sutton's like, Well, after spending some time with Amanda, I have some reservations because Amanda's coming in. She's like, Hi, how are you, everybody? She's doing Kyle's like, Hi, how are you? Kind of thing to everybody. And Sutton does not like this girl. She's like, I have some reservations. Really? Because you didn't have reservations when you were planning that trip. Airport, restaurant, force her. And I think she is much more calculated than I thought. I squint, I squint, I squint, I squint.

But also says the woman who's actively always trying to become Kyle Richard's bestie, and she's complaining about someone being calculated. And that's like, Kyle's the queen of that. Okay. So then, of course, now we have arrived at the, Let's see what everyone is wearing section. So it's like, Look at my Kelly bag. Look at my Kelly bag. Look at my mini Kelly bag. And you know what's so funny, Roni? I'm sure you were looking for this, too. But we guested on Amy Odell's podcast Back Row, which will be coming out soon. And Amy Odell is a fashion writer. And we talked about fashion on the Real Housewives. And one thing that Amy informed us of, which, of course, we didn't know, because as we've mentioned before, we're not fashion gaze, is that you're not supposed to have your nice Hermes bags unclassed and unbuckled. So now I noticed. And these bags were all flopping all over the place.

All of it, every single one of them. It is funny because she's like, Why are their bags always open? I was like, I never really thought about it, but yeah, I noticed the same thing in this scene. Every bag is just falling open.

Flopped open. I was like, Now I can't not see it. So It's funny to me. Big floppy open Hermès bags.

And Dorit bought an $11,000 Mini Kelly.

She's like, I bought it for my birthday because I just signed a Libra deal. That's book in French or Spanish.

She was, Who knows? Who knows, really? Probably both. Dorit, you have $5 to your name, and you spent the first money from your advance on an $11,000 purse? Girl, you got to start worrying about them kids. I know. Come on now.

I know. I know. By the way, so I, of course, I was got paranoid that I was misstating something. I googled, are Airman's bags supposed to be open? The first thing that comes up is something on Reddit, which is a shot of Bethany Frankl, of all people, holding a bag. Someone says, I just need to know other people's opinions here, as I will never be able to own an Airman's bag, so I have no idea. But is the clasp open a look? Are they difficult to lock shut? Because I see so many celebs posing with them open. It drives me nuts. Apparently, they are very difficult to open and close.

That's why-Yeah, that's what Amy was telling us on the show, that they're notoriously difficult to open, and that that's why people did it. Remember? Because I was like, Well, why? That pisses me off about expensive things. It's like, Oh, wow, here's your $15,000 bag. Good luck closing it. You're $15,000. It should be electronic. It should be hooked to my brain where I say, Close my purse, and then it closes. Why are things more terrible when they're more expensive and more of a pain in the ass? I just don't get that.

I would like to try to open one and close it, and then I will be the final judge on how hard it is because I can see it being stubborn, but I would also like to know. I would like to source an Airmes bag and be like, I don't want to get it closest, please. Go spend 11 grand. Thank you.

Yeah, go get yourself an 11 grand bag.

I'm just going to touch it and see how it goes. I don't know. But you know what? It makes me think of, you know what? It makes me think of something that I actually think of all the time, almost every single day, which is the shot from a few years ago when Dorit filled a teapot from the snout, or the spout, not the snout, from the spout instead of the top. Remember when she did that? No. Why are you doing that?

You don't remember when- From the spout instead of the top. What do you mean? Like she was putting the water into the little tiny hole instead of the Did you take a hole?

Yeah. She had the front. Do you remember that? No. Okay. That's funny. Here's why I think about it. That's so Doreet. Because there are times when I am refilling my tea kettle, and the spout is open. Sometimes you think, I could just angle this whole thing, so I just refill it right like that, like Dorit does. But I'm like, That's so lazy. The least I can do is close that spout and open the top part and fill it up from there. That's all I have to do. When I think of the Airmed's bags with Dorit and Bethany just leaving them dangling open, I was like, You can't do the simplest thing just to close them up.

Well, apparently, it's not simple because there's entire articles written about it, and now multiple podcasts talking about it.

It just speaks to a pattern of behavior with Dorit. First, the tea kettle, then the Hermes bags.

But I like that Dorit has steeped into your personal life like that over the years, too. It's been a thing that's been going on for years. I love that for Dorit because she's talking about how impactful her book is. You didn't even need to write a book. You've affected Ben's life to this point just from filling a tea kettle.

I can't believe you don't remember the tea kettle moment. There's actually a thread. I just did a search for Doreet tea kettle to show you a picture, and there is a thread on Reddit. There's a picture of Doreet filling the tea kettle from the spout, and the headline is, Was Dorit Ever Likable? This is such an obnoxious way to fill a tea kettle. But the truth is that a lot of people, when she did that, a lot of people admitted that that's how they fill their tea kettles as well.

Then it became like a thing. How do you fill your tea kettle? Let's vote. We're putting up a poll. Sorry, everyone.

I took this to a weird Interesting stuff.

So, Satin's like, she's proud of Doreet, I guess, or she's pretending to be because she's like, New Satin, because she's had a therapy session with Reba. So she's like, I think when you get divorced, it's important to have ownership in your life that's not connected to a man. That's really amazing, and it's important. It's important. So congratulations to Doreet.

It's important to have ownership of something that's connected to a man, but is about a man instead, unburdened on shelves in April. Then everyone's going, Book deal, book deal, book deal, book deal.

It's so nice to get support from these ladies like, Finalamente. That means at last in some language.

I'm not sure. That means, fire me nails as soon as possible. They're getting really, really long.

I think, probably. Who cares?

They come back to the party, and Natalie She is the first one to sit with the tarot card reader, and the tarot card reader is like, Wow, someone needs a blanket. Oh, my God. How did you know?

I'm a psychic, babe. I'm psychic. Someone get her a blanket.

Okay. Oh, my God. Look at this card. There's a man on it. And Natalie's like, Who is this? Is this his boyfriend? Do I need a boyfriend? He looks like an artist. Oh, my God. Well, it's so funny because he looks like he's from Brooklyn. I mean, come on. This is crazy. You're reading my mind. I'm like, Natalie, you're giving her all the answers. Let's on the ooos clay, okay?

Yeah. Also, I like that they're looking at the actual card. They're like, Oh, my God. In this card, he looks like an artist. It's the drawing on the card. They laugh, and then Erica is asking to read.

She's like, So did you choose a co-author yet? How about that? Who's going to write the book? She's like, I did. It's a mother-daughter What?

Mother-daughter deal.

I don't know what you're saying. It's a mother and a daughter.

All right. Yeah. Amanda's like, Oh, like a ghostwriter?

She's like, Well, a co-author, ghostwriter.

Sure. Whichever term you'd like? And she goes, Yeah, well, I just sat down and wrote. I just sat down and wrote my book.

Well, it's more for time.

All the things I do, let me list them. You see how long it's taking? And Amanda's like, Well, I just wrote my book. I mean, who doesn't just write their book? You know what I mean? You know what I did? I sat down and I wrote. That's crazy. Someone said, You want to write a book? I was like, Sure. So I wrote the book. She just keeps going and going.

She goes, Yeah, Dorit is like, Well, I have a ghost writing.

It's more for time.

And Amanda goes, Well, I just wrote my book.

Oh, well, you must have had a lot of time.

I was like, Okay, the season has come to life at long last. That was such a great line when she You must have had a lot of time. I love that prickly Dorit moment. Erica's like, I'm happy for you that you wrote a book all by yourself.

I did not. I used Brian Morland.

Doreet definitely will not because she's an idiot.

Let's face it, she can barely count to three without getting distracted. But if Doreet wrote it herself, it would never come out.

Let's be honest, okay?

For someone who claims to be an author, she sure doesn't know how to read the It's time for a commercial.

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So Amanda is like, Okay, well, tell me about this co-author thing, Kyle, because it didn't even occur to me to not just sit down and write a book. I mean, my God. She's like, I think it depends on the writing style. Yeah, because I guess I'm a writer then because a big part of my job is writing before I write the book. Oh, my God. Amanda, congratulations. But if only people who could actually write, wrote biographies, there would be nothing in that section. It would be like five bucks. Writing is something that people work at to get good at, and people like to read or not that. So if you ever want to know their story, you're either going to have to go to Instagram to look at all their pictures, or you're going to have to have them tell that story to somebody who can form a sentence.

But also her marveling at the idea of a ghostwriter is, first of all, it's a lie. She knows what a ghostwriter is, but obviously, she's trying to flex. But you're 30-something, whatever, you know what a ghost writer is. You know what it's there for. You have a book. You've heard of it. You were probably offered one when you wrote your book. Let's not be an idiot here.

Also, your books are extended bullshit pamphlets on manifestation. Which is just copied from 90 million other pop psychology bullshit books that have come out before you. It's not like you're writing Grapes of Rath. Let's calm down over there. I've seen your website font. Okay, Alder.

She was basically like, It never even occurred to me to just not sit down and write my book. I guess I'm a writer. A big part of my job was just writing before I wrote the book. I was a writer, and that's why it never occurred to me. They were just like, Fuck this girl. Erica, Rachel, and Dorit are now huddled in a corner talking about Amanda, and Eric is like, Oh, I wrote my book.

I wrote my book. Okay, well, you had a lot of time on your hands. Remember when I said that before? I'm saying it again now because it was such a good diss. Diss? You've been dissed by the reet.

But why are we one-upping our mediocrity achievements? It's like, wow. I wrote a book that no one's going to read. No, I actually wrote a book that no one's going to read. Who cares? Who reads?

Yeah, I'm like a New York New York Times best-selling author.

Yeah, and I'm like a two-time New York Times best-selling author. Why are we one-upping? Why is she one-upping so many people? Okay, how many times are you a best-selling author, Kyle? I don't tell anyone. I just told you guys after you said you were a one-time. I said I was a two I'm best-selling author. Whatever.

I hate those-So they're all high-fiving Rachel, and she's like, Amanda, are you okay? What? Isn't there something in your brain that blocks you from saying something like that? You don't need to put someone else down to lift Well, on Bravo, yes, you do, actually.

That is true. Now, Sutton joins. I mean, literally, almost the entire cast is standing in a tiny pack in the corner gossiping about Amanda, which is so funny. Rachel is like, Oh, my God. Isn't this the best? Oh, my God. Look at this. It's caviar. Look at this caviar. Isn't this the best way to eat caviar? It's row caviar.

It's Roe caviar. We put Roe over here, and then we put Wade over there, and then we just spend the dinner watching them fight.

Did you know that this caviar is a best-selling author? Didn't even have to break about it. That's crazy.

As a new girl in town-When I opened this caviar, I told it, Congratulations. I'm a two-time best-selling author, but good job. I die. I die.

I don't like what she said about the book. As the new girl in town, that's fucking bold. But tell me what she said about it. Tell me. Tell me. Someone goes, Okay, well, Amanda thinks, Dorit, that you're talking too much about the divorce, and then it might come back to bite you.

She said that.

She said it.

She said it.

She has a lot of time on her hands. And Doreet's son is like, Mm-hmm. And then she said she's worried about you, talking too much about PK being a—Oh, my God, I hate this word. I'm an alcoholic. There, I said it.

Okay, I said it.

We see a flashback of Amanda being like, Yeah. Oh, no. Amanda, when she was with Doreet, saying, Oh, yeah, I'm praying for you, Dorine. After everything you told me, I hope you get good sleep. I hope you have good vibes.

And her being like, Oh, thank you, Amanda, dear. Oh, that is so kind. That is so you.

I had lunch with Amanda several weeks back. No fish sandwich, I'd like to add, and she never expressed any single word about any of those concerns. It's pretty odd that now she has a different opinion when my back is turned. Very odd indeed.

Then we come back to the party and she's like, For the record, I didn't out PK.

He did that by being a flagrant, insane over the top, post a boy, post a child for alcoholism.

Full-blown.

I didn't out him. I would never, ever, ever discuss it without his approval.

I specifically said, PK, I'm going to call you a full-blown He was only awake on television.

He loved it. He loved the idea. Absolutely loved it.

Pique, if you don't want me to call you a full-blown alcoholic, you have the next three seconds to respond to this email. Three, two, one. I will I picked that as a yes, that's okay. See? I approved. I got approval.

So, Jennifer says that was the idea. Cathy finally comes. Cathy finally comes, and Jennifer is sitting down for her reading, and they pull a card for her. She's like, Oh, my God! This card has not come out the entire time. It's one of my favorites.

Is it Chanel?

No. It's a picture. It's called the Emperor. See, look, it's an empress. Isn't that nice? It's an empress.

She's pregnant, and she's sitting cross-legged in the grass.

Jennifer's like, Oh, well, maybe she had one too many pizzas. Not pregnant with possibility, of course. I'm not pregnant. I can tell you that much. I am hungry, though. Is there a pizza here? This lady has told me I'm about to eat one.

Well, look at this. Oh, my God. Here's another one. It's a lady on this card who's blonde. What do you think about that, Jennifer?

This one looks like my friend Satin. She's wearing a pink and holding a cake just like Satin. Does she have one where she's holding the head of the decapitated head of an assistant who didn't bring her the proper round ice cubes and is now shit-talking her in gay bars?

So Jennifer says that Satin is her very good friend of 18 years, and the psychic is like, Do you feel Is she someone you feel like you can lean on a little bit? Jennifer's like, she does this. Her hand's like, Yes, it's so true.

Then, meanwhile- Don't you think that's a psychic? I was getting the vibe that the psychic was like, Oh, here's a blonde lady.

She's like, Oh, yes, Satin. She's wonderful. She's been my friend of 18 years.

I felt like this lady was like, This blonde lady is about to come for you. Jennifer was just like, No, we're friends.

Everything's great with Sutton.

Sutton, meanwhile, has interesting things to talk about.

She's like, Guys, did you see when we were on the plane and Bo's peanuts went everywhere?

Kathy said, What?

Peanuts.

Oh, peanuts. I thought She said, Penis? Where's Bo's anyway? Amanda's like, Oh, her egg retrieval was Wednesday. It's funny because it's just like… When I got my egg retrieval, it was on a Tuesday, so it was just one day earlier in the week. I don't know. It's a little bit better day in the week.

Satin, I had my cards done, and the card came up that looked like you, and she was wearing a pink dress and holding a cake. I said, This is Satin. Then the card said, Shut up. The card was mean to me, but I take it because the card was going through a very hard time, and I support the card. Where's the cake? Do you have a cake? Please have a cake. Why don't you have a cake, Sutton?

Sutton is basically like, Can we talk? They go over to talk. She goes, Okay, so I have to talk to you about this because my feelings are super hurt. I talked to Kyle, and Kyle told me that you said, I'm always the one stirring up trouble, and that's why Garcelle doesn't want to be friends with me. And by the way, we see a flashback to this in about a second where Jennifer does not say any of those words whatsoever.

She doesn't say that at all. What are you talking about? Kyle didn't even say that. I mean, Kyle was an asshole for running straight to you to tell on Jennifer, but And Kyle told it at least somewhat truly. Sutton's just making stuff up.

She's like, Well, that's why I didn't say that.

Well, that's why García didn't want to be friends with me, really.

No, I didn't say that.

And so we see Jennifer saying she doesn't like to be snapped at for no reason, and all of her friends give Sutton a pass because she's so fragile, but it's just too much. And that's one of the reasons Garcelle left, because it's always all about Sutton.

Jennifer is like, Well, I felt like I needed to leave the room because I felt like, Why here if I can't speak? And I was venting a little bit, and I don't remember exactly what I said, but maybe it was similar to what I was feeling. If I had it all to do over, I would say, Where's the cake? You were holding the cake in the card.

Basically, Jennifer says that after García left, she started to re examine her own relationship with Sutton. She I had this feeling of like, I would never speak to Sutton in the way that Sutton spoke to me. It was really unfair that she spoke to me in that way, which is a very fair feeling to have.

Sutton's like, Well, it just took me back to the past.

It took me from brown to Strack. Because I've just been really trying so hard not to be so reactive, I just, I don't want us to mess up. Okay? Yeah. Listen, Sutton, I really appreciate I appreciate that you're trying really hard not to be so reactive, but that's why you're on this show. Please be reactive. That's what I need from you, Sutton. I need you to be reactive at all times because that's my pleasure zone.

Well, and also, Sutton, you were reactive in that moment. You were rude. You were shitty. You snapped at everybody, but you snapped at your best friend and upset her. She's being honest with you and telling you that now, and you're still not apologizing. You're forgiving her. I'm like, What the fuck? Come on, man. You are in the wrong. Apologize to your friend. You know? Sure, Jennifer was in the wrong about talking about it, but Jennifer is apologizing, and so it's just like, Okay, you're forgiven. Let's just let that go now. I'm like, Oh, no, no, no, no. That's something's problem.

Sutton should be nicer to Jennifer.

Yeah, something needs to get her shit together because that's not cool.

So, so I'm saying, I have started to do work on myself. And, but in Sedona, I snapped Jennifer, and I should not have done that. And I need to take a minute to breathe. Or as my mom would tell me, count to five. Yeah, that's right. That's, that's what the, that's what you pay thousands of dollars for, for therapy. Count to five. So, poor Jennifer, she's choked up. Like, she clearly is, she's uncomfortable with confrontation, clearly. And they basically, they love each other. They hug, and Jennifer's like, I'm really sorry, and I'm going to do better, but because I want to be a ride or die.

She's like, Well, we are that.

Mainly, we're best friends. So come on, come on. So they go, they go back.

I like what Jennifer called it.

I want us to be ride and die. That's what we're going to be. We're going to ride together and we're going to die together.

She's like, We are. Come on, baby movie star. Come on. You're not going to get an apology from me. But come on. I like to see tears. That was fun. So we go back to Dorit's reading, and Dorit is like, Oh, who? For someone who needs a ghost ride, I'm sure getting a reading, Amanda.

She's like, Don't be afraid. Tell me everything, anything, even if it's bad or what have Pinky, full-blown, ill-go-holic.

Is there a card for Pringles?

The psychic gathers her tarot cards, and a card just flops out by accident, and it's like, I don't know. You did tarot, right? I don't know. Was that the death card or the swords card or whatever it was?

It was the seven of swords or something, sticking out of a brain. This was the only drawing we've seen that's not some chiclet, like Beach reed cover. It's just an open brain with seven knives stabbing down there to it. She's like, Oh, my good.

What does that mean?

All the swords sticking out of a head?

I believe this is the noise, roughly, that was coming out of her eyeballs in that moment. Welcome, ladies.

I'm now officially getting the impression that this lady doesn't know what the fuck she's doing because every time she picks a card, she's like, This is a blonde lady.

So there's a blonde lady. There's a blonde lady Oh, look, there's a man on the card. I see a man coming into your life. She's really bad. And this one, there's a sword sticking out of the head, and she goes, Well, it's, I guess, an ending, like a hard ending. Yeah, there's knife sticking in the brain, lady.

But also, a lot of... That's still pretty generic. I have to say, later in the evening, when we have the Valley Persian style, there's a psychic on there who does some very good work. She's giving specific details about choreography from childhood. And this lady is like, Mmm. Meals you've eaten within the past seven days, haven't you?

I did.

How did you know that?

So you digest food? No! So now it's time for dinner. Everybody gathers around the table, and Rachel's like, Oh, my God. Speech time. Wow. Hot girl summer. Am I right? It better be started. Thank God, I keep 600 candles on hand because otherwise, death. Okay. Enjoy your food. I'll enjoy watching you eat it.

By the way, I'm missing Bow's right now, but she did call me and give me permission to share the news, which is she was upgraded to presidential suite. Yeah. Great news in Vegas. Great news. She spent a lot on the tables.

She's got eggs happening, and she also got three of the Audrey II Monster on the little shop before's machine and won $100. That was pretty cool. They're like, Oh, yay!

Yay for Bow's. She has a yard long right now with Margarita. She's having a great time. We do have an update, which is that Bowes was able to get two eggs, and they'll be tested for growth. Commercials. Here comes one right now. Now the women are talking and serving themselves and everything, and they're learning about… Natalie is talking to Amanda, and Natalie is like, Where are you from? Amanda is like, I'm from Oklahoma, but I moved to Montecito in because I'm the money queen. I basically wrote so many books up there because I'm really talented. So, yeah, you're welcome for knowing me.

Amanda is like, Don't forget, I need a reading. She was like, Yeah, I had a feeling you might say that. She was like, What are you, psychic? I'm not a psychic. Amanda's like, Yeah, I've been to Psychics. I've been to Energy Healers. I've been to Intuitive Guide. I've stolen everything from them. I'm Amanda Francis. I'm like, Woo-whoo shit. Everybody knows that. Everybody knows I'm Amanda Francis. So, Angie.

Oh, God. Angie pulls a card that's next to... It's a woman near a money tree, and Amanda's like, Motherfucking money tree. Talk to me about this. Money Queen. You know about the Money Queen? That's me. That's me. So Angie's like, You are a manifester times 100. Do people say that to you a lot? She's like, I write books. I write books on manifesting for a living. I wrote a book called Rich as Fuck. That's so hilarious.

And so Angie's Oh, my God, this is amazing. I'm so psychic. And she goes, So are you a medium as well? And she goes, I mean, sometimes, but I can't really control it. But if you tell me exactly what you want me to say, I could do that. She's like, Do you feel anything on me? She goes, No, I can't. She goes, That's okay. My child died. I was like, Oh, my gosh. Then she tells her that this is the anniversary of her child's death, and she was hoping this was a moment that the child would come through. She's like, Okay, can we just go back to the cards? The poor lady is like…

She's like, Count to five. She's like, Count to five.

Hey, wait a minute. You stole that from my mother.

I was impressed that Angie, the psychic, did not try to bullshit her way through being a medium.

She was like, You know what?

I'm on camera. I'm just going to say, No, I'm not feeling anything. But this was actually quite sad because, of course, the day is inherently sad for Amanda, and everything about it is sad. But it is sad when she… Considering that she's really into all the woo- woo shit, she's talked about how Eddie is constantly having these moments where he feels Zion, and she never feels it. Never feels Zion. She's really trying to have these moments to feel Zion, and she can't get there. I was like, That's so sad. That's really, really, really heartbreaking.

Then back at the dinner table, Kyle was like, So did you talk to Jennifer a second? What happened? Did you talk to... Fucking Kyle. My God, give it a rest.

Jesus.

She didn't remember saying it. Kyle was, Oh, so you think I made it up? She's like, No, not necessarily. But we can talk about it in front of you all. I was guttied, and my breath was taken away. Jennifer's like, Well, we're making a mountain out of a mole hill, actually, which I don't know. It's like she's visibly uncomfortable.

Are you calling me a mole?

Are you saying I'm a mole? Am I a little rodent? Is that what you're trying to say?

She's like, Well, I remember things, but I don't remember what they were. But because I'm always very protective of you in our friendship, it wasn't me being like, Oh, what a bitch, right? And so Cathy's like, What's going on?

No, down there? Is it about Boze's penis?

Nothing's going on. Kyle was asking us about a thing, and then it got quiet, and then people started coming up. Am I making things worse? I don't even know. America's like, No, you're not making things worse. God, somebody needs something at this goddamn party where all the dicks were supposed to pain. Jesus Christ. Drigger, speaking of context about things flowing out of moods, because I think you're going to be fine, Jennifer. Whatever.

So, now- I'm putting a button on your fight.

Your fight is done now. That was nice.

I want to get your take, Amanda, on the discussion of my divorce because I I heard you had concerns about the way I've been speaking about the father of my children.

So, he's like, (muh, muh, muh, muh, muh, muh, muh, muh, ).

Well, Kyle and I spoke a little bit about how it could make your situation harder with the custody, so that's basically it. Kyle was like, Yeah, when did you hear this, by the way? Where did you hear this? Can we get mad at someone else? And of course, she's like, I heard it from Sutton. So Sutton's like, What?

Huh?

What?

Huh?

And Amanda's like, What day was this, by the way?

Where did you think it?

Because it doesn't matter what day it was.

If it came out of your mouth, would it be different on a Tuesday than it would be on a full-blown diacaholic day?

Amanda is like, Can I be really, really honest? Zion died three days, three years ago, and I'm just hanging on by a thread, and everyone's like, and then Cathy goes, Is that your dog? She goes, My son. Then it cuts to commercial, and I was like, Oh my... Oh my God. Is that your dog? Oh my God. Oh my God.

We come back, and she's like, No, that's Kanan's twin. Everybody's like, Oh, my God. Holy shit. Rachel's like, Oh, my God. I had no idea. And Sutton's like, Oh, my God. How did nobody know? Everybody looks completely mortified, and they don't know what to say. And so there's a big long pause, and Dorit just goes, Wow, I'm sorry.

You know that it landed on a day like this. Maybe we'll have the conversation again, right now.

But I'm just curious because having an opinion as someone who doesn't knew me in my situation or me husband and actually said to me that you thought about me and you prayed for me. And she goes, Yeah, but that was all true. I have been thinking about you because going through a hard time. I think that day, Dorit just doesn't give it up. I was crinching. My bottle-I was like, Dorit, no. Oh my God.

She's like, I think I agreed with Kyle. I don't remember having very many strong feelings about it other than agreeing with you, Kyle, which was great. I love that she actually did this because, Kyle, Kyle was happy to have Amanda, take all the heat. And so it's like, us. She goes like, I don't really recall. I don't really recall. And so we see a flashback of one week earlier, and Kyle and Amanda are talking about the divorce. And Kyle's like, She's clearly very upset. Coo-coo, caca. Am I right? I mean, PK says he's actually been an angel, and Dorit is like, Crazy. And Amanda is like, Yeah, but bringing it all to her friends over and over, is that very wise? And Kyle's like, It worries me. So we see that Kyle was just as guilty as Amanda in this situation.

Kyle was more guilty because she was the one bringing it up. Amanda was just commenting on what Kyle was saying, right? As far as I can- Anyway, Dorit's like, Oh, so do you think you hijacked Kyle's thoughts? Who has known me for 10 years and made it your own thoughts? Is that maybe what you did? And Kyle's just like, Oh. She's just looking away, doing that Kyle like, Awkward. Amanda's like, So do you think it's fair to bring this to me when I just shared what I'm going through today? This is a hard day. My kid died, and she was, Well, Lisa Listen, you can see that. I'm like, Oh, no, Doreen, no.

You're doing it again?

No. Yeah.

I mean, once this card has been played, it's like, this is like saying, We're postponing the game. There's thunderstorms. This baseball game has been postponed until Tuesday. Listen, and from the other side, of course, there is the argument, bringing up your child's death in a petty argument on housewives to as a blocker is maybe not that tasteful.

Then saying, My kid died. Everyone deals with things in their own way. But the fact is, even if you think it's a card and someone shouldn't be playing that card and it's not fair, et cetera, et cetera. It is still a card you don't fuck with. That is the card.

That's one of the cards. You just don't do it.

What's wrong with you?

A hundred %. A hundred %. When Amanda said it, I 100 % believe this is something that is consuming her. I also felt a little cringy because the cynic in me felt like she was trying to say, Stop in this conversation, right? But like you said, for whatever reason that it came up, it is a hard stop at that point. Yeah. She reads the-Oh, my God. I'm going to drive this car through the wall.

She is really just like, Listen, you can say that. She goes, Yeah, you're not very kind. Says, Amanda, I'm not trying to be anything other than conversational.

If you're not ready to have this conversation, it's fine.

I respect your wishes 100 %. She's like, Yeah, I was saying it could make a custody hearing more complicated. Oh, so we can have the conversation because I'm happy to. I'm like, Oh, no. Oh, my God.

Just stop, please. She's like, I just want to go home.

Okay, so then we should have the conversation another time. How about in about 30 seconds? Okay, I'll count down. And then are you ready then? That's what I'm hearing.

And Amanda's like, No, no. So Amanda gets up. Now, Amanda's crying. She's totally distraught. And she's like, Thank you, Rachel. You're a wonderful hostess. Rachel's like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I didn't know. And Amanda's like, I just want to go home and hold Eddie and talk about what today is. So she goes out, and Kyle, of course, follows her.

And he's like, Well, that's great timing. She didn't say anything at all.

So Amanda like, I'm not the bad one. You're the bad one for not warning me that you were going to be bowling that card on me today.

Oh, my gosh. So awkward. Dorit says that Amanda shared at Jennifer Tilly's party that she had lost a baby, but they didn't know it was today. If she had known, she wouldn't have said anything to her. Yeah, but she did say, And you just kept going.

You dumbie? Yeah, I don't believe that for a second. You 100% would have. Amanda's at the front door about to leave, and Kyle's like, Oh, I hate seeing you leave like this before you get into a fight with Sutton. Oh, my God. Amanda's like, I just should be with my family right now. Then Cathy joins. She's like, Hi, honey. Everyone feels really, really, really bad. Amanda's like, Only one person should feel bad. It's to read. They're all consoling her. So, Cathy's like, Wait a second. We're going to fix this. So, she goes back and she's like, I'm going to get to read. Hold on. To read. Get over here.

Amanda is saying, She came at me accusatory with a very attacking style of energy, and the second I explained what was going on, that should have ended it. Which, I mean, good point. At the dinner table, Erica is like, Oh, God, I mean, I knew about the kid, but jeez, I didn't know it was today. So they're feeling bad. And then Cathy is like, Listen. She's like, I think you should go in there and talk to her. She's like, Listen to me, Cathy.

I respect this the anniversary of her son's death, and I don't need to have any conversation with her.

She goes, Just go and be the bigger person. We're not forgiving anything. Just go ahead and do it. I mean, we're talking about a death of a child and possibly a dog. I wasn't really sure. I didn't hear the whole thing. I wasn't following.

I really zoned out after I asked that I just kept thinking about my own dogs.

God, I love those. I love my dogs.

So, Dorit, Dorit walks out to see Amanda, and she hugs her, and she's like, Oh, bubbly. And she tries to wipe away a tear.

And, Dorit's like, Amanda, I'm so sorry you're going through this. Right as I was trying to ask you a very important question. And I didn't know. Obviously, you didn't say anything. And as a mother, I can't think of anything worse in my life, just so you know. But again, does As a reminder, you didn't say anything. Okay?

So here, let me wipe this here from- Don't touch me. Don't touch me right now, please. Just please don't touch me right now.

Okay, well, it was a nice gesture. I think a lot of people would have been very complimented to be touched by our future best-selling author. But if you want to be unburdened on book shelves in April by my finger, then that's fine.

But like I told you, my kid died, and you kept going really strong.

Well, which I said I respect, and you continued the conversation.

Yeah, because I was trying to get what you were saying, though.

Okay, but I don't want to have the conversation right now. I want to respect the fact that you don't want to have the conversation. I would like to have a conversation about how you don't want to have a conversation, but you don't want to have a conversation about how I want to have a conversation about how you don't want to have a conversation. Do you understand?

Yeah, but you very… I don't think it's true because you wanted to go out there after I told you what I was going through, and you did keep going. If someone told me their kid died, I definitely would have just given them a hug.

She's like, Well, okay. Well, I apologize that I didn't, but I just came out here right now to give you a hug, so why don't you go and good night, Amanda?

Yeah. They're like, Okay, bye. She leaves, and Rachel just looks around. She's like, Oh, my God. Fuck.

Wow.

They're like, Yes.

Wow. It was definitely so cringeworthy, but I also love that. I love a cringeworthy moment on one of these shows, and it made me happy. It made me excited. By the way, in that moment, I also really enjoyed. I feel like totally missed. There was one moment where Sutton was eating caviar, and she got on herself.

She's like, Now I've got caviar all over me, and I don't have a cocktail party. Rachel, you don't even have cocktail napkins.

I loved her mini meltdown about the cocktail napkins to Rachel Zoe. That was great.

But I do. I do. Where are the cocktail napkins? Where's me? Where's me?

Get me. Trash party is in the first place. Anyway, I just wanted to put that out there because I love that moment. Thanks, everyone, for being here. Go join our Patreon, listen to Ad Free, check out our bonus episode for The Trader's, keep an eye out for the newsletter, get tickets for the crappies, and we'll catch you on the next episode. Bye, everyone.

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