Transcript of The Podcast of Record: Tuesday, April 28th, 2026 New

Good morning, girlies. It's The Toast.

It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast 5 things you need to know.

We'll start your day off swirly. It's The Toast.

I sound amazing.

Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Tuesday. And speaking of choices, you've made one.

Which is?

Choosing the best damn business partner this town has ever seen.

Well, that's an intro.

Yeah, happy Tuesday everyone. Welcome back to The Toast. I'm your host, Turti Liu.

Happy Tuesday. I can't believe it's only Tuesday. It's only the day of the twos.

What? It's insane.

What?

What? What? Yeah, it's only Tuesday, but that's okay. We have a lot to carry us through this. Second leaked Subber Heard audio.

Second and third.

Second and third. Um, second batch. Uh, Acquired made a TikTok about us. Like, we have so much to do today. I'm not even concerned. Like, we are gonna make it. Oh wait, does yesterday count?

No.

We made it one show without talking about Lix Lix in a formal capacity.

No, but you took out your board and made a zero yesterday. You don't—

Yeah, but I was joking. It was already zero. It was already zero.

So yesterday is one show without It was not in a formal capacity, but if we continue on the topic too long, we might jinx ourselves.

So, okay, let's just right through.

Yes, yesterday I would say was National Acquired Day.

Um, agreed.

They came home from The Bachelorette, they watched the toast on the private jet, which is so crazy.

The jet had a plane and they used AirPlay and they streamed the toast. They wanted to see what we said about them. They made like a bunch of TikToks and pictures like, tag us We are the official podcast of TikTok. Okay, my dreams have finally come true.

We're the podcast of record.

Yes.

Yes, we are.

That's like a cute Instagram bio, cuz we kind of do need to change ours because of the, the passing.

Because of the passing.

Yeah, because our Instagram bio is Jackson Claude and Bryson Streis, which is like, was cute when we were just like two girls with dogs. And like, we are two girls with dogs, but the dog in question. I kind of like the podcast of record.

Okay, I'll change it.

So if you guys think that's good— it's kind of— you're being so like hasty. It's so crazy to change your Instagram bio.

Um, you know I like change. You know I like a rebrand. And when it feels right, it feels right.

And the podcast of record is obviously a play on words from the paper of record, which is what paper? The Times. The New York Times.

I don't love the comparison, but I think We are the modern New York Times.

I actually agree.

The podcast of record.

Are you gonna keep the sparkle emoji or no?

No, it's a heart.

Or maybe microphone?

Heart and cheers. The heart's a little corny. And the cheers.

Corny or corny?

Corny. I'm taking out all emojis.

How about that? No emoji after the podcast of record? I can't believe we're just like changing our Instagram bio. This is insane.

The podcast of record, period. Oh, it looks really—

Wait, don't post it yet. I wanna— Oh, I want to refresh and see the new one. Oh, I hate it. I hate it. Take the period out, it looks weird.

Oh my gosh. Okay, we can troubleshoot this later.

And then it shouldn't say by Jackie and Claudia, it should say with, or like—

I think it's by us.

I like by the podcast. By— no, it's the podcast like hosted, or the podcast with. No, we need to work on it. The by doesn't work.

I'm sorry, it doesn't. I like— gives it a little je ne sais quoi. By us, like we're authors.

We are author.

We are the author of this podcast because at the end we say that's all she wrote because we wrote.

We are author.

We are.

We are.

What's that?

Just saying we are authors.

Yeah. Did I miss something?

You did.

But like, just did I say author?

I did. I was like Oh, LARPing myself, and you just like wouldn't join in.

Like, oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, we are all there.

Yeah, we are all there.

I have purse. Um, so yeah, there's a lot to discuss today. As mentioned, we have your toasters.

Before we dive into what needs to be done, let's talk about us before we write. Did you find— before we write the show? Yeah.

Oh, you can seriously—

there is the toast is scripted. You can't script comedy like that. We couldn't even.

We lost like 20 minutes of the episode.

Lost files.

And we, it literally was all written down and transcribed and we like, we couldn't have even recreated it. We couldn't.

No, but I actually was talking to somebody about this recently that a lot of popular podcasts, because they are becoming really replacements for nighttime television, like late night shows, a lot of people are hiring podcast writers. Actually, I was just having this conversation with someone. Who? Like joke writers.

Right. Who were you talking to and who's doing it?

I don't know why I don't want to say who you were talking to. Yeah, I don't know why.

Like, you're— they're a podcaster and you might be putting them on blast?

No, but I just— I can't explain. I don't want to say who told me.

Okay, but I guess that makes sense. And also, it's like, you should make your show the best it possibly can be. Like, use every tool in your toolkit.

I have no issues with it. I just— we're on the same page. Like, I don't want to hire a writer, right?

No, it wouldn't work for us, unfortunately, you know.

Yeah, because we try to tell you guys all the time, we literally can't be put in a box.

Yeah, no, and like, we're so off the cuff. We're really improv. We're like an improv troupe of two.

We're like, yeah, Second City. What is like that, um, what is like the famous improv where they like pluck people from SNL?

Oh, I don't know. I just know like the improv group like from like my college, you know.

No, no, there's Second City, I think is like a Chicago-based one, and there's like a— what's the one? Famous improv, like, groups.

Isn't there a theater like the Chicago Improv?

Yeah, yeah, Second City, which is like the Chicago one. Oh, Upright Citizens Brigade, that's so us.

That's so us.

Oh, you know, like, one of my favorite theatrical, uh, games— it's not a game, it's like a—

it's like an exercise.

Exercise is a game I learned. It's an improv game, okay? I feel like we've played it on the Toast already, where it's like we have to have a conversation simply asking questions, and the first person to break like loses. How are you?

I don't know, how are you?

You can't answer, you just have to answer it a question like, okay.

Oh my God, I sent you the funniest thing yesterday. Speaking of—

oh, she's done with the exercise. She's done with the exercise.

Silly things we do on the show and painful things you make me do.

I, oh my God, please do not bring this up because people are gonna go find the clip, the Kim Possible thing.

Yeah. But it's hysterical. Mr. McCorky, I'm dropping out. And you could just see like, I'm hating that you're making me do this, but yeah, it was net hysterical. So anyways, I found a random old clip of our Morning Breath show where Claudia and I did a bit of improv playing Kim Possible and they were casting a live action and obviously we suggested Mrs.

Jacqueline Follet for the role. So of course I had to make her do her audition for us. And it is so funny, she's like, Mr. McCorky, you actually did a good job.

Like, oh, you think so?

Yeah. And I was Mr. McCorky and we were like role-playing on the phone.

And you were like the secret agent, like, I don't know his name, but Charlie of Charlie's Angels. Like, yeah, like Mr. McCorky. Mr. McCorky was her teacher.

Are you sure?

I think Mr.— she was in class with Mr. McCorky.

I mean It's such a brilliant performance, it doesn't even matter. And I think you played the role of Mr.

McQuirky so well that you could have been either a teacher or a secret agent.

And that's on range. Yeah, it did remind me and just inspire me even further, like, the next time we do revamp our studios, like, which will be at some point, you know, we got to keep it fresh, we will also need like a third space because we used to get up and like, we were more of a web show than a podcast, so we would like do physical like stuff. We would dance and sing and perform.

We used to have like people come on like teach us to bake. We had a segment in the gym. Like, we were not a web show, Claudia. That's really like underselling it. We were really like a morning show. We really fancied ourselves. Like, we would have segments just like Morning Glory. Like, here we learn how to bake. Here's some— I got my ears pierced on the show.

And the industry sort of demanded that we conform more to like the podcast format, which I'm glad for cuz I'd love to sit. But in our next studio, wherever that may be, like we will be having a third setup for activities.

Okay.

We'll work out like the tech issues. It's gonna be great.

Yeah. So maybe we could get back to being like a morning show and doing like kitschy stuff like that.

Yeah. Very like Diane Keaton.

But that stuff like doesn't work on a podcast cuz who wants to listen to someone doing a dance? Even though that dance episode was the most iconic thing of all time.

Which one?

Asia DiPaolo?

Asia DiPaolo says hello. We have such deep lore, and the fun fact about our lore is that like the first year of our show, which was probably the nuttiest because we had this like unlimited budget, doesn't really exist on the internet because it was like owned by a different media company that like completely erased it. And it would be nice, like it's just like, it's nice that in order to really understand our lore, like you kind of had to be there from the beginning because you can't go back and watch it.

No, you really had to be there anyway because nobody wants to go back and watch like 3 girls dancing 2017.

I do. Oh my God, I do.

But it was lightning in a bottle.

Lightning in a bottle. I was thinking of lightning in a bottle. We recorded a kind of a tea-filled Patreon yesterday. We did a Q&A, which we try to do like quarterly, just to catch up with everyone. It's also a good time to like, you know, clear things up if you— I like to use that as a platform sometimes to clear things up. And this time we gathered questions. We usually gather questions within our Patreon community, but I took it to Instagram just so like people get really brave with their questions on Instagram. So it spiced it up a little bit, and we talked about some things, the business of course, some financials. People, people love to know financials. Talked a little bit about drama. Yeah, drama. It's on the Patreon, patreon.com/toast. It was a kind of tea-filled episode.

Yeah, I would agree that we spilled the tea. Um, how was your Maj yesterday?

Uh, so I played with a new group, but like, you know, some of the same characters but a new foursome. I'm always switching it up, you know.

Of course.

And, um, it was great. I won the first 3 games in a row, and I could tell like everybody was done with me, and I didn't— I was actually really enjoying this new foursome, so I didn't want people to like hate it. I know. So not saying I let the last two games go, but I just sort of relaxed and was on my phone.

Yeah, having a—

yeah. And one of the girls I was playing with was new, and she was probably like, wow, she's really good. And I'm actually not. I just like—

really good.

The tiles were with me, you know. I'm not like an insanely skilled player, I don't think.

Got it. That's funny. I had a similar experience where I was like, I feel like I'm winning too much in this game, and like nobody's going to want to play. Like, it's not fun for anyone, and nobody's going to want to play with me. So I didn't throw any games, but I certainly— I stopped like trying so hard.

Yeah, and for me at least, like, and Ben, this is one of my toxic traits. Like, I can't just have fun at mahjong. I have to win at least once, just once. And I usually play for like 2-hour increments, and we get like 4 or 5 games. I just need one. I literally just need one. And sometimes I get zero, and it really affects my mood.

I know, like, it's really crazy. It's also crazy, like, not playing with you anymore.

Like, oh, am I toxic?

What, am I toxic? Yes. Like, the stakes are just so much.

I didn't realize everybody else could feel it.

Like Yeah, it's like I thought I was like keeping it to myself. No, it just feels like the stakes are so much lower. Like, you win, you win. You lose, you lose.

Like, oh yes, that's— yeah, that's what losers say. I agree. Yeah, no, but have fun.

I'm just saying you have a very intense energy, and of course I'm coming back with you, but I'm coming back to Florida shortly, and I know like you probably made new foursomes without me.

Yeah, just tell those bitches you'll see them.

You could be our alternate. Never. I would literally never want to like be a fifth who watches and maybe subs in.

Oh, I know a lot of people play. It's a 4-person game and a lot of people get together in groups of 5. So somebody alternates or somebody has to leave early. And I just wanna say, never invite me to a game of 5 people. I can't imagine anything worse than being the fifth and watching 4 people play a game that you love. Like, kill me.

I completely agree.

I saw the funniest TikTok. Listen to this.

Okay.

If you are thinking about playing Mahjong, I need to warn you about something. This is not a casual game.

Okay, you need to be willing to commit. In a month, you're going to have a mahjong hat or a coffee mug. You're going to be asking strangers to play.

You're going to teach your whole family. You're going to want to go door to door asking people if they've heard the good news about mahjong. Mahjong goes too hard. It's so true. I literally walked past the Mandarin Institute on like 70th and something a few days ago, and they had a big sign outside that said we teach mahjong, um, like American, Hong Kong, all different versions. And I literally sent— took a picture of the sign outside and sent it to every person I know who doesn't play, cuz they're like, I want to take a look. Take one.

Yeah.

What's worse? Take one. I know like 5 teachers.

What's worse when, when someone's— if you ask someone like, do you play mahjong? And they're like, no. They're like, teach me, bitch.

I would never teach you. Like, I, I just taught Satchel, and that's because I'm related to her.

Of course.

And she has to love me. You will see the ugliest side of me if I have to teach you mahjong. Like, how stupid are you? Like, I just— no, like, seriously, it's such a complicated game. Every time I play, I have to like relearn the rules again because there's just so many of them.

Seriously, educate yourself. Like, it's not on me to educate you.

Oh, and there's actually, um, like a mahloket, a sort of, um, an issue with a rule that I would love a mahjong expert to weigh in in the comments because I'm getting conflicting opinions from different teachers and from chat.

Let's hear it.

And I will say Chat has the NMJL rules down. Like every time I ask them something, they pretty much get it. But I feel like they're wrong on this one. For a sequence, news, 1, 2, 3, 4, you obviously can't call and you can't use a joker. Can you call for mahjong?

Yes.

Chat says, chat says no.

You, you can.

Chat says no.

You can.

I just wanna make sure, like, I need an expert.

Well, there's definitely mahjong teachers listening. Like, just let us know. But like 100% you can, otherwise I'm never playing a sequence again.

No, I know. When I heard that, I was like, wait, then like half of my mahjongs have gone invalid. Like, no, I always— like, news, you call for the double.

You can call— you could also call on a pair for mahjong.

I know, and it doesn't make sense that you could call on a pair for mahjong. You can call on a single for mahjong, right? But you wouldn't be able to call on a sequence.

Chat is wrong sometimes. You have to like—

I can't—

you have—

is chat— don't say that about my friends.

Chat the only one saying that?

I don't— I don't ask anyone else.

You didn't like look it up anywhere?

Oh no, just chat.

Chat's wrong for sure. I feel like I can say that with confidence. But sound of hopefully mahjong teachers.

Well, I actually watched on my morning TikTok scroll, they, you know how they release like the first 7 minutes of like random episodes of Bravo? Sometimes they released the first couple of minutes of the, um, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion part 2, and they have literally 10-minute conversation about ChatGPT.

Oh, interesting. Do you know what I just saw before we recorded? PK like went on a podcast. Yes, like, like not Diary of a CEO, but like looks like it, like a very serious Diary of a CEO.

Yeah. With like a different host.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I said, I think. Um, yeah, I'm agreeing with you. Okay, great, you find as well.

Um, I found Jackie, I found—

you will be found, Code Journer.

Don't sing that song by my least favorite person.

Uh, so anyways, he's done this podcast that's very serious, like a serious format, and he's like telling his story, his career, also his divorce, talking about Tareet. Um, I feel very interested by it.

Yeah, it doesn't seem like he was coming from like a place of anger or hate. It seemed decently copacetic and in line with what Dorit has been saying now. It was like an up-to-date update on their, um, situation.

Yeah, I mean, he's definitely saying like she's changed, she's not who she was. I'm like, I don't know this person. Um, but it does seem like net-net he's most concerned about their children, as is she. So hopefully, like, they can both move accordingly. Hopefully he's not just, like, spiraling out, you know, bottles, models, and where in the world is PK? It seems—

where in the world is PK?

It seems, like, sort of stable. So I, I think that's good news. I don't know, I thought it was, like— not that I was, like, waiting to hear from him, but— and not that I'm gonna really listen. I still have to listen to you on Second Thought. But if I did have, like, all the time in the world, like, I might listen.

Yeah, I'm not gonna listen, but I will enjoy more clips. So feel free to, you know, feel free to drop the clip. PK on a podcast. PK on a podcast. Like, I would like them to come across. I'm not gonna seek them out.

The podcast is called— oh, now I'm on the Toast Instagram.

While you're there, change by the new fucking Instagram.

What's new?

It hasn't hit me yet.

I just like, if you search someone, they give you their whole life story and some old pictures.

Oh my God, not only do they give you old pictures, they look for maybe pictures that you could be connected to. Oh, I searched Taylor Strecker yesterday. I was looking for something and they showed me the fattest, ugliest picture. I literally— it's a good way to find photos of yourself that you want to delete.

Yeah, I actually had a—

oh my God, I couldn't believe it. From 10, literally 15 years ago.

I had a similar experience. I don't know what that is.

They have to stop doing that.

Make it stop.

Now it's like Instagram has also become like a Wikipedia where you search someone. God forbid they take you to their profile. No, they give you like this AI-generated bio.

Yeah, no, like their life story, and it's just a bunch of like random facts with the ugliest pictures you've ever seen in your entire life. Yeah.

What is that?

I don't know. Not my favorite.

Not my favorite.

Yucky.

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You're welcome.

No fun.

No, you refused to engage with me, so—

Oh, about crazy last night?

Mhm. So I'm just sort of—

so we're all being punished?

No, no, you're, you're not being punished. Of course not. You're just sort of being given the energy you, you give out, you know? You're receiving that energy.

Well, you haven't done crazy in a while. Because you've been—

because I've been shut down. Yeah, I've been beaten into submission.

It's true.

Everybody hates my little limerick. It's so harmless. Oh, I fucking hate you bitches.

Like, oh no, I know, we can't breathe. Like, we can't just like have a little thing, have a little fun.

The hate on us.

I know, it's hard.

It's just—

let it out, let it out, sister. She's emotional.

It just gets hard, you know? Like, I think a lot of people don't understand.

No, they don't. Our first story: Summer House reunion leaks. Two more clips leaked. Now the content is sort of as expected. It's more of the barrage, more of the defensiveness from Amanda, zero from Wes. Did he say one thing?

It's actually crazy because it's not even like the conversations that we heard snippets of are Amanda-focused. It's about their collective statement, their collective lying to the group. It's not just about one thing. It's insane. I don't think on that second one I heard him say one word.

Yeah, I don't think so either. So they talked, and there was a girl's voice I really could not place. Not Bailey.

She was like—

I—

it might have—

it might have been Bailey, because I think it was Bailey who was like, I saw you that night. So apparently there was one night end of February when they were all at a bar, like everyone was drunk. It's also crazy how much they like actually all see each other. It's nice in the offseason. Yeah, but it's like, oh, Kyle and Jesse were at a bar with some friends and then Amanda came. And anyways, everyone was like drunk at the bar. Amanda like jokingly kissed Kyle a couple times at the bar. They must have like been in a good place. And like, I can understand how that's like a funny shtick, like, because I have no problem kissing your ex-husband, husband. Um, and then went home with Wes that night. And Amanda was like, I wasn't kissing Kyle. And Sierra's like, you're still married. And it's like There would be a difference if Amanda was jokingly kissing anyone other than her husband, but like, to kiss your husband, technically—

it just proves how like literally by the end their marriage was so fraudulent and like, well, that was not real.

They were already separated at that point, but they are still legally married.

So like, I don't care about that jokingly, but Sierra's harping on it. I know, and she needs to let that go cuz she has so many valid points. And like, I personally don't care that she was still legally married. And it's true, like, Kyle's out here doing— he's doing things when he's married. Like, he's dating. I do— I actually do not care that they're legally married.

No, but like, to jokingly kiss your husband and go home with someone else is crazier than like jokingly kissing Jesse Solomon and then going home with someone else, you know what I mean? Like, that's—

no, I think it would be crazier to kiss Jesse Solomon.

No, but like, that's such a joke. But kissing your husband's not a joke.

I have like a little bit of a hot take, not to be a narc, but Like the first leak, thank you. I feel like it scratched an itch I needed. I couldn't wait. Now the second leak was so long, I like sat and listened. It was like 3, 4 minutes long now. And they're talking about, um, Amanda's best friend from Katie DeLuca, third grade. Yeah, just as— and I'm sure her name would've been bleeped in the actual reunion, Katie. And now like we're putting a private citizen on blast. I feel like now we're entering into spoiler zone and now I, I, I don't really wanna hear anymore. No.

And it's getting like, to be— if I have to listen to all that shit again that I found not that, like, titillating to begin with, like, I'm— I could enter boredom territory.

Yeah. And I think that maybe the person who recorded them—

eating a dead horse territory.

I think the person who recorded them is now, like, bitter because they've been fired, and maybe they were just, like, gonna get that one leak and get away with it, but now that they've been fired and they have, like, genuinely nothing to lose, they are releasing more.

Yeah, I feel like I don't really want to listen to them anymore. I almost didn't even listen to 2 and 3 because they were hard to come by. They're getting taken down. Yeah, but then someone sent it to me, so I was like, okay, let me listen just like for the totes.

No, and like Andy put on Radio Andy this morning, like talking about the investigation and how they're like actively working with Bravo fan accounts to not post it. Like, that's so lame.

No, and he also said that it was like a Bravo fan that helped them crack the case.

The case, which does track.

And that like we're going to learn more about the situation.

I don't really care, to be honest. Like, you know, it's not a cast member. Well, we know it's not a cast member, so my interest just sort of ends there. I don't need the name of like some random audio engineer who— like, that name is going to mean nothing to me unless I went to high school with him, you know?

He said even though his team of investigators were on it, it was a Bravo fan who you're gonna hear more about who cracked the case.

And oh great, now we're gonna have some like some crazed fan on a podcast or something. Like, I'm good.

And delivered crucial information. It's like Monica all over again.

Yeah, I don't need this. Like, this is just getting weird. Just give us the reunion, okay?

Yeah, I wonder if they'll also take out some of these bits now, because I think that they will and that they could. I'm sure they had a really long, like, hours-long conversations. I'm sure the same things were said over and over, and like, just choose a different one so it feels new.

I do think that these leaks are a window into the approach that Amanda and West individually took. They clearly were not a united front. The fact that they left together feels weird because if I'm Amanda, I'm mad at Wes. Like, he goes the silent route. In every clip, he's barely speaking, which is not a bad road to take. Like, you can only get in trouble so much if you don't say anything. Amanda's taking like this very defensive route, not coming in. And that's what Jesse said on Watch What Happens Live, was that like there hasn't been this like you know, deeply apologetic apology tour, forgiveness, accountability. No, they're like sort of indignant.

No, and their, their whole thing is like, I'm sorry, but like, what did you want me to do? Like, okay, I could have handled it better, but like, this is what was happening. I didn't know what to do. You don't hook up with him. And also, this— in the last few weeks and months, it sounds like from like the timelines and the photos and what's everyone saying, like they're just like all drunk and drinking and like hugging up.

Like, this isn't serious.

This is not serious. They said that night at the bar, February 28th, like West was too drunk to even speak. Like, that's your love, that's—

and that's who you went home with.

That's who you can't help but be with.

That's also like unethical. It is. Sorry to go home with somebody who can't even speak.

Yeah, I'm just—

if the roles were reversed, I just want to say like, that's what people would do.

It's not like Romeo and Juliet when you're seriously blacked out half the time.

1,000%. And like, Amanda, you know, speaks a lot about her weed use. Oh, and a lot of people— I saw people talking about how you're— Amanda's been really open with her, um, mental health journey, and you're really not supposed to smoke weed when you're taking medication like that. And that like maybe, maybe she's having— because she is acting like so out of character.

Like, I just think we don't know her character.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't know what her character is and is not because she's never been put in a situation like this before.

The clip was also just reminding me of Vanderpump Rules where like nobody can speak during Scandal reunion. Like nobody can speak, everybody's attacking. And it's like, I do wanna hear from Amanda. So if everybody could just like shut up for a second, like I wanna hear what this crazy person has to say.

Yeah. And Lindsay like starts to say that at a certain point.

Like I love that. Everybody say such a mom, such a mom.

Like shut. Yeah. Because you do have to like deliver this reunion correctly. Like we do need to have the flow of conversation go accordingly where everyone can like say their piece. And when everyone just starts in together, like, no, no, no, that's not gonna work.

So we can't interrupt like every second of Amanda.

Yeah.

Like she has to be able to say something.

Yeah. And you can combat that, but like it has to be a conversation.

And that's why like people like Bailey and KJ come into Sierra's defense. Like I love, but like it's really not about you. So just like, hold on.

Yeah, hold on. Like, because we just need organization, conversational organization.

There are tiers of like who gets to speak the most. Amanda, West, and Sierra are tier 1. And sorry, Kyle is too— no, Kyle's tier 2. Sorry, I know that he should be tier 1, but he ain't.

Kyle's connection to Amanda is—

no, I know that they're married—

than Sierra's connection to Wes.

Sorry, it's, it's actually not.

I don't like— maybe emotionally, maybe in terms of how much one likes another, but in terms of like history, like, that's his family. I'm—

okay, fine, he can be on tier 1 even though he's hanging on by a fucking thread. Okay. Tier 2: Jesse Solomon. Maybe just Jesse Solomon and Lindsay because I respect her and I want to hear what she has to say. Or like Mia, like, uh, uh, uh, no, no, sorry, everyone else, like, they were there but they aren't longstanding members of this dynamic, first of all, and it doesn't sound like they were there physically. Okay, Bailey was there once.

It would be Paige if she were there.

Oh, of course, but I'm sorry, like everyone else, I just unfortunately need you to take a back seat. That's why I think it's even crazy that Levi was there. Like, we don't need one more person chiming in, and she wasn't even on the show.

Like, it's really crazy to hear Levi can be on Namesake.

Write it down.

I'm just wanting you guys to know, like, Namesake is shaping up to be like the show of a lifetime. Like, give Namesake the Pulitzer. It's brilliant.

It's giving Keeping Up with Sports, like a podcast that never gets released. I just like—

I have a lot of like dreams for like things I want to do in my— not lot actually. Uh-huh. I have a very short list of like dreams, things I wanna accomplish in my career, work that I wanna put out there. And Namesake is on that list. You need to know.

Is it actually? Because I just wanna say it doesn't sound like a very good podcast aside from the fact that like we're only sitting down with people whose names we either share or they share with like members of our family. Um, beyond that, it just sounds like a boring interview show with Levi from Summer House.

It does. But like, It's just such a great angle. Like, we can't—

we can't have everyone, but beyond the angle, like, what is there? But it's like, it's the angle. And I think—

of course, I think it would go to show, like, the power of a name.

Chilling, chilling.

And there are ways to, like, open it up to have— like, we could never have Amanda on because we don't have anyone in our family remotely named Amanda. But there are other, like, we have aunts and uncles and cousins. Like, we could have a lot of people on the show inadvertently, you know? Like, we could have Kyle on the show cuz Zach has a brother Kyle.

Oh yeah, okay, okay. I don't care. Like, we couldn't have West on. I'm not really moved. We could have Jesse. We could have Jesse.

Isn't it fun? It's like you, you don't get to choose who comes out. Like, it chooses you, cuz like you don't get to choose your family. The power of a name. And you don't get to choose your name, right? Anyways, Levi is our inaugural episode.

Great, can't wait.

And Charlie Puth. Oh, and we could have Teddy Swims because of Theo.

Oh yeah, it does apply posthumously.

And Bruno Mars.

Yep.

Yeah, so it really— it has range.

I do think that Bruno Mars needs to go on a podcast. He like has never really done one, and people don't know him Maybe that's how he maintains like a good sense of self, like boundaries within the industry. But I kind of would love to hear him on like Armchair Expert.

Yeah.

Or The Toast, of course.

I feel like this would be a fun one for him.

'Cause his sex takes me to bed. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Hey, me too. What's your favorite Bruno Mars song?

You know what, like I love like Locked Out of Heaven.

So good.

So like some of the early ones are just like, they go so hard. Like Treasure.

Fucking treasure. I was gonna say Finesse. That's like a sleeper hit.

It don't make—

it don't make no sense. Like, he's so good.

He's a crazy one. He's wildin'.

Um, okay, so back to the leaks. That's enough. Yeah, I, I'm, I'm calling it.

And I don't want to keep listening. People keep sending it to me. Like, I don't— I think now I just want to be surprised before I'm like over it before it even starts.

Yeah, and justice for that girl Katie.

Yeah, well, she just— they just said it would be like hooking up with Katie.

No, and then apparently there was a phone call with Katie DeLuca and Kyle. I think that's how Kyle found out.

Yeah, but she didn't do anything wrong. She seems fine. And is she the one that's on In the City? Amanda's friend?

Oh, is she? That would make more sense.

But is she— she probably has more than one friend.

Katie DeLuca. And at this point, I don't know if she does. Katie DeLuca. Oh yeah, she is. All right, so that's fine.

Okay, are you ready for our next story?

Oh, she's pretty. I'm just like— I think this is the wedding in Italy that they went to and where they met Ben.

Hmm, that makes sense.

And her husband's last name, and I guess now her last name, is Arendale.

Arendale, that's nice.

Yes.

Yeah, from Frozen. From Frozen. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Some sort of adjacent news. One of the craziest headlines we'll read here at The Toast.

Oh my God, Dr.

Dre holds hands with The Valley star Michelle Sinai on unexpected date night. So Dr. Dre and Michelle Sinai from The Valley appear to be dating. The rapper, 61, and the real estate agent and reality star, 37, were snapped holding hands at celeb hotspot Nobu in LA on Saturday.

It took me about 45 minutes to actually compute what my eyes were seeing, like for the image to go into my retina and translate to actual logical thoughts in my brain. Because it took me a second to be like, wait, who's that? Because I haven't watched a ballet in a little while. And I was like, wait, who's that? And I— it, it's like somebody dating an alien, like from a different planet. I just I was shocked. I, I was shocked. And then part of me remembered like how much I fucking hate her ex-husband, Jesse. So I am living for this because I just know he's in hell.

You think so?

Yeah, people on The Valley are obsessed with like low-level celebrities that they are, and I feel like a lot of the storylines are always talking about like other people. Like they said, what was the celebrity connection? Whatever, they're just obsessed with fame. And for her to be out here with like one of the most legendary billionaires— yeah, I hope they get married. I hope they get married.

Also, in the first season, like, he had started rumors that she like had a billionaire boyfriend or whatever. I wonder if this is who they were talking about, or she just like has multiple billionaires in her phone.

Oh wait, that's a really good call, because then they said she was like an escort.

Yeah, but I don't think that's $1,500 a month.

That's not true. No, no, no, no.

But like, she was conversing with a billionaire like years ago, and I just wonder if it's it's the same one, or if she just like can pull multiple billionaires.

I hope so. I would love that, because then it's like also the guy, you know, she told you not to worry about. Yeah, but then also, I hate her ex-husband more than I hate anyone on reality TV. I think he is evil.

Did you see this old clip of Sheena going around that— no, saying that Dr. Dre is her hall pass?

Sheena.

And then Brock rescinded it because Dr. Dre was actually coming around Oh, like they were in the same room as him and like he— Brack realized it was actually a possibility, so he was like, no, rescind.

Oh, so obviously this is the billionaire, or like he's been in—

I don't know, why is Dr. Dre like so in the periphery of the Valley stars?

Like, that's where this story sort of makes no sense to me. Yeah, this is like a legendary, historic, iconic— like, there are so many— Beats by Dre, like billionaire. His music, like, his musical impact is like decades long, and he's hanging out with the kids from the Valley. Like, I just— I'm so confused.

So confused. But I do hope they really make a go of it. Like, I would like this for her, you know?

Yeah. And Isabel needs like a billionaire stepfather.

I also thought Michelle was like dating Lala.

Lala. We never closed the circle on that. It's giving queerbaiting.

No, I think if we just watch the season, like, we would— might maybe get some answers. And I do like want to watch the season because like my favorite person is back on television. I just like have a lot going on right now and like, you know, we're like sleep training and it's just, it's hard. It's hard to watch TV.

Yeah, I feel like, um, it's just, um, it's just like weird that like you're still riding so hard for Lala.

Why?

You're loyal, it's nice.

I am loyal, but why, like what happened that I wouldn't?

No, nothing happened. I just feel like there's not that much to like stan.

Like I like her personality. Yeah, she's like a dedicated mama. She hasn't like done anything that's like incongruous with the person that I always liked, correct?

So it's like so random, like your favorite person on reality TV, one of—

yeah, yeah. I mean, she just hasn't been on TV that long, so it's just not as fresh unless I were to watch The Valley. But like, I just know she's gonna get— like, she'll be my favorite again.

She's gonna— she's gonna give them lala.

She's gonna give them a lot. Like, I just think she's so great.

No, I admire and I'm loyal. I actually really do.

And like, when I ride for someone, like, don't take that lightly, you know? I don't just—

it's true.

I don't just throw my weight behind anyone, and you can know that. Know that.

Also, people are now circulating the clip, um, of a Lala— I don't know if it was on like a Bravo after show, but she really believes that she's a reincarnated spirit of Tupac Shakur. Okay. And Dr. Dre is actually like a, a former comrade.

He could attest.

Mr. Shakur. And maybe that's how they all connected.

Maybe like— no, but maybe he could like meet Lala and like let her know if he sees his old buddy.

It's giving Tupac.

Yeah, that's funny.

Yeah.

Um, okay, well, we'll keep you posted on this, on this burgeoning coupling ship.

Like, seriously, get the, get the labor, get the, like, get your hammer out. We're building a ship and we're setting this to sea. Yeah, it's setting sail.

We're setting sail. It's a big one because he's a billionaire, so you got a huge boat.

I'm obsessed with this. When I was reading the Dumas caption, like, I couldn't have come up with a random— a more random pairing.

I love—

if I asked ChatGPT to generate like the most random couple you could think of, even Chat couldn't.

Should do Ask Chat.

No, like, it's perfect.

This is perfect. I know.

I—

sometimes you just have to let the chips fall where they may because they're even more beautiful than you could have arranged.

It's— oh, I love that. I love that.

Are you ready for our third story? Yeah, sort of like another amazing celebrity coupling-ish. Angelina and Jolie and Gisele Bryant pose alongside their daughters as they attend a sorority event in Atlanta.

I saw the daughters and I'm obsessed with this. Um, so Gisele and Angelina Jolie's daughters are in this, and it's Gisele from The Real Housewives of Potomac, not Bündchen. I, I first thought when I the headline, I was like, yes, what?

Gisele from Real Housewives of Potomac, her and Angelina Jolie's daughters are in the same sorority at the same college, and they're not the same age, but they were taken in a photo together for their sorority, which is now like going viral because it's literally Angelina Jolie and Gisele.

And which child of Angelina?

Um, Zahara.

Oh, interesting. Okay, um I love this. Like, this is where Bravo is really the intersection of so much culture, because obviously, like, the daughter—

she's—

they're all like nepo kids, but she's more so a nepo because of her father than her mother, right? But we know it, of course, from the Bravo angle.

Giselle's daughter Angel.

Yeah, I would say like Jamal is more famous than Giselle.

Well, it depends who you ask.

It does, of course. But I think like if you were to zoom out, like, on— in terms of like— yeah, I would say Jamal. Yeah, well, like, and I think that like his daughter probably runs in these fancy circles more so because of him.

Yeah, but I think she runs in two big circles now. Like, she has two different whole worlds.

She's like in different universes.

Yeah, she has access to like two completely different worlds.

And I just don't know why I'm surprised that like Angelina Jolie's like kids would be in sororities, because I feel like they're so like off the beaten path, you know? And sororities are like so—

well, Sororities have like different vibes at different schools. They both go to Spelman, and so I'm sure the sororities are like very, you know, storied. And it's—

yes, HBCU, it's like, it's so different, like from Beyoncé's Homecoming.

Yeah. And there are other schools that have like, you know, like supper clubs like that. Just sometimes it's not just like Greek life party, like, yeah, it's not what we think. It's not what you think. It's like really a group of women, sisterhood.

It's a group of a sisterhood.

Yeah. And some schools, it's like if you're not in the sororities, like That's the whole— well, there goes your social life.

Or like NYU, I didn't know a single soul.

Or there's zero, you know. So every school is very different. I would say Greek life, it's true, it's true.

I forgot that this was an HBCU. Yeah. And I think it's like historic, like I'm sure, you know, Giselle was in the sorority, you know, like she's a legacy or something.

Exactly. Yeah, it's giving Sydney White.

I like— first of all, I hope these two are friends. Maybe they were in the same sorority and didn't even like know that the other existed, and now the internet is bringing them together. Yeah.

No, it's hysterical. This photo just is so party.

Also, Giselle is like— this is a huge slight for Giselle.

Yeah, for sure. Super cute. Extremely. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah, our fourth story, a little Taylor Swift wedding update, because— why? Oh, what were you—

she's also like, um, featured in this huge New York Times video series, 30-minute video. They're doing like a thing about like the greatest songwriters, and she's one of them. And so she did like nothing major. There was no like— yeah, she's like talking about her songs and her songwriting and how she writes songs and just like, you know, the journey. I thought that's what you were talking about, like writing for songs, of writing. Yeah.

Uh, yes. No, but wedding bells. So it appears as though the July 4th date is the date of the wedding. Michael Rubin has moved his party so it doesn't clash with her wedding. Page 6.

I just want to say, I don't know if I believe this.

You don't believe what?

That he— if he's moving his party, it's because of Taylor's wedding. One, he didn't even have his party last year, so I feel like the tradition has been broken that if he has it another weekend, it could be for any reason.

Well, it's meant— it says it's going to be Wednesday, July 1st, so still July 4th weekend, but no— but like, if you're going to the wedding, you could go to both. The only other reason why I don't know if this is necessarily true is like, even here there's like a list of guests that like they don't cross frequent, and they don't cross. It's very much like the Kardashian—

Tom Brady's not going. Exactly. Kardashian's not going, right? Taylor's— like, the most famous— and I feel like it may be like the people who are coming are also dropping like flies. Like, Ryan and Blake aren't going. So it's literally Lena Dunham. I think she's marked safe. No, going to what?

Lena Dunham, you think, is going to the wedding? Of course. Why? I thought they're not friends.

No, they are. She's not friends with Lorde anymore, but she got Jack in the divorce.

You think Jack and Margaret are gonna go?

I do.

I don't think so.

I do. I don't think so. I do. I think, yeah, Jack and Margaret will be there. I do think Lena will be there. Haim will be there. Selena. Lana Del Rey, maybe. I feel like they're more work friends, you know.

Maybe you met your work friends.

Lana Del Rey, um, like Joshua Jackson, like the most random people, you know what I mean? Why Joshua Jackson? Because his Jody, his wife, was in the music video for—

oh right, because of the Graham Norton.

Graham Norton.

I think also Travis has a lot of friends, totally different circles. Yeah, yeah, but like, so there would be a lot of celebrities from Travis.

Pat and Britney, of course. Andy Reid, of course. Who else is he friends with?

Corey Gamble.

Justin Timberlake.

Justin Timberlake.

Corey Gamble's not invited. Like, it's not even a question. You're out. Justin Timberlake will be there. And also Taylor is friends with him.

It will be like a really good State of the Union to see who they're both still friends with, because like, I know that she has said also that she's having a huge wedding.

Like, it's not— like, the guest list is not— she's not being precious about it. So if that's the case, like, we will really know. It's not like we can say, well, it was a small wedding.

Yeah. I know that her and Kelly, like, aren't friends anymore. Who? Kelly Teller. Oh yeah, they're not. But like, it would be crazy if she's not at the wedding. I just want to say she's—

she's not going to be.

That's crazy. She was her date for the Golden Globes like 2 years ago.

Best friends.

So that's crazy to me. That's crazy work. And like, Travi likes Miles.

I know. I feel like a lot of Taylor's, like, beefs do sort of get— what's the opposite of like when you dead— like deactivate, like neutralize? Yes, neutralized by Travi, right? Like it's like not that serious because Travis is friends with the brother and it's all good.

But isn't that classic husband-wife stuff, you know, like the husband maintains a decent relationship where it's neutralized?

Yeah. So it will be very interesting and it will be a State of the Union on who on her celebrity friendships, because there are question marks, and there are a lot of, you know, like you said, Jack Antonoff, Sabrina Carpenter will be there for sure. Um, Jack Antonoff, Lena Dunham, there are— oh, Zoe Kravitz, Harry Styles. Yeah, you know, I read a report, so just take this with a grain of salt, that they're getting engaged because he has like baby fever. He really wants a baby.

I saw that they want a baby. Does she have kids?

I don't think so. And I wonder if he wants a baby because he's been really inspired by my mama content, because he does follow me on Instagram, you know.

Yeah, maybe.

Maybe it just feels like everybody on his Instagram, you know, like classic, is having a baby.

That's really cute. I know, I hope they do.

I would love that.

I hope they do have a baby.

Me too. Yeah, I need more people to have babies just so they can like write music that like I'm able to relate to.

Yeah. Oh my God, John Mayer actually gave a very funny interview and said something very funny.

I would love John Mayer to have a baby.

So he— I forget where that he was talking about this, but let me pull up the article because he was talking about this. He does a radio show, so maybe on his SiriusXM show he was talking about his hit Daughters, and he says like in hindsight the song was actually like very selfish. He's like a 23-year-old like telling fathers how to parent their daughters so that they grow up to like be better girlfriends to him, you know?

Yeah, right. It is a crazy song, and it's crazy that it's like the most popular song to dance to with your dad to at your wedding.

And it's like record of the year. He said, what was a 24-year-old boy telling fathers? He said he admitted the reason for writing the song was very selfish. Quote, I think I was thinking in very circuitous and clever ways that it was really about me, a young guy so selfishly upset that he couldn't be with the woman he loved because he thought that her father must have had something to do with it.

That's actually like an insane song. Yeah, I'm surprised he hasn't been canceled for that.

But then he said, and this is what you were just saying, he said, when you're young, that's young logic and it plays really well in songs. It just does. Come over, I know we're horrible for each other, come over type of young. He then joked how older logic can be harder to write songs about, like had a tough day, coped with it.

It's a tough—

it's a tough— he said it's a tough song to write. Had a rough morning. Took a look at the bright side, got a good phone call later, reminded myself what was I worrying about.

Well, it kind of sounds like John Mayer needs to have a baby. It'll be endlessly inspiring for him in the, in the studio.

Yeah, but it is funny how, like, you know, sound logic—

no, being healed is not interesting. Like, it doesn't make for good art.

Yeah. However, you should live an ordinary life so you can be violent and original in your work.

And I think Taylor Swift is definitely a testament to, like, you can do it. I feel like she pulls a lot from, like, movies and TV shows because her life became like sort of, especially with Joe Alwyn, like monotonous in a sense, like just 6 years of—

well, it sounded like it was sort of like a tortured romance in hindsight.

And now, yeah, she's able to make music about it now with like the perspective of hindsight.

People make the argument now, and it's an argument I do not agree with, but I will just platform it, that like TLOAS wasn't—

was a flop—

a success because she is happy, and happy people like can't make good art.

I disagree, which I think the songs on TLOAS about her being happy are the better songs. Yeah, honey, got a couple kids, got the whole block looking like you. I would like to sign—

I would say there are good songs on TLOAS.

I think the album as a work of art is not—

and the album imagery does not jive with the songs. Like, it just— and the way it was hyped up was not what we got, you know, 12 Blank Spaces bop city.

Yeah, I blame Travis for that.

Yeah, Travis. Not Travis ruining the album.

Literally.

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Our fifth and final story, Verity trailer dropped. Anne Hathaway and Dakota Johnson play seductive mind games in the Colleen Hoover thriller. So we've got our first real look at Verity. Very, very spooky. I don't remember it being that like much of a psychological like thriller, mind games, like I, but I read it a very long time time ago.

Well, I don't want to spoil anything, but yeah, like, because of what you find out at the end, it does make the whole book feel like— was— it's like, it's like one of those books where it's like, are you hallucinating or is somebody gaslighting you? Like, so it does have that element. Yeah, this trailer looked really good, and it also takes place in this like remote mansion, very much like The Shining. It looks very good, and it actually looks like really, um, like adapted almost to a T. Yeah, like I remember the bite marks on the headboard, like, yeah, little things like that. I don't even really remember so much the premise of the book, but everything I saw in the trailer, I was like, oh yeah, that's from the book. So it seems like they're adapting it quite closely.

Yeah, I'm excited to watch it because I read the book so long ago. I love the book, but I've forgotten a lot of the details, so I feel like I'll be watching a new thing and I can enjoy the movie whether or not it's close to the book or not.

And it seems like the first movie from Colleen Hoover's work that's like not being— it's like like It Ends With Us, that Reminders of Him looked like a Lifetime movie. Like, all of them have been like really corny, um, and this looks like a movie that's a real movie. Like, it looks serious. It looks kind of like Gone Girl level of just sort of psychological thriller.

Yeah.

Whereas everything else— I mean, that, and then that Allison Williams one, she did one where they get in the car crash. Like, it was just— they all are so Lifetime movie.

I just saw like a weird clip of that on Instagram. It was like, you know how sometimes they post movie clips and it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, What was that one called?

Into the Woods. I don't know. Like, I don't know. There have been reminders of him.

And it wasn't reminders of him?

No, no. What was it called? Regretting You. Yeah, yeah. Classic. Like, you know, two people's spouses get in a car crash and it turns out why were they together? They were having an affair.

So that's what I saw in the clip, just the hospital scene where it's like, wait, why are you here? Why are you here?

I saw that too.

Why are you here? Why are you here? They were both in the trash and they were together. I'm like, oh my God. And they're obviously having an affair.

Yeah, um, I don't know if I read that book. I did, I did read Reminder of Sam.

That just sounded good.

That was one of the last books I did read of Colleen Hoover because I was like, okay, I think I've like aged out of this. Um, and I don't know why, I just feel like all of them have been sort of— even It Ends With Us, which was pretty good, it didn't feel like a serious film. It just felt like a kind of commercial corny film. This one, between Anne Hathaway and Dakota, who are just like both like really high-level actors, it just it just feels like it could get, you know, a Golden Globe now.

Yeah, I agree. It's up there.

I'm excited.

Comes out October 2nd. So whether you've read the book or not, I feel like everybody's really gonna like this movie. It reminds me of Gone Girl as well, where it's like a huge book, even bigger movie if possible.

And Anne Hathaway these days like really does not do something that's not— like, I feel like when she is involved in a project, you're almost entirely sure it's gonna be really good. She just has a good picker. So I'm very excited, and I don't have any— you know, when you read a book, you feel like you can like criticize the movie a little bit. I don't have any feelings. Like, I feel excited, and I think, I think it's in good hands.

I think so too. And I'm happy for Colleen Hoover, who has a win under her belt and like isn't traumatized from the movie industry.

Yeah, because so far she's striking out. Obviously It Ends With Us, and then the other two are just like—

the other two I think like actually are not a problem. I think it's better to have a movie that's flops— not flops, but just doesn't like go crazy versus what happened with It Ends With Us, which could literally have like thrown her whole career Yeah, let's dive into Dear Toasters.

Are you ready?

Mhm.

Our weekly advice segment every Tuesday. Jackie and I like to help out our community. If you guys ever want to write in, please send us a message to yourtoasters@gmail.com or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com, where you can write in about anything that's going on in your life— wedding drama, work drama, best friend drama, family drama. We love family drama. Um, we're going to try and help you, okay? And we try to give sound advice, okay? And if you, if you aren't open to either you being the problem or your husband being gay, don't write in. Hey Jackson Turd, I'm getting married in July. My family is not religious, but my fiancé's family is Catholic. My dad asked if he— we could have a memorial set up at the wedding for my late great-grandmother who passed away in 2010. For context, my dad grew up in a very abusive home. My grandmother took him in at 9 years old. She was the only motherly figure he knew. I'd love to have a memorial for her, but my dad requesting— is requesting that we bring her ashes, like reserve a chair for her ashes during the ceremony, have a memorial table for the have a memorial table for the reception where her ashes would be placed after the ceremony.

My fiancé and I think displaying her ashes in a way is going a little too far. Do you agree? Any advice is appreciated.

Yeah, I agree.

Yeah, it seems like— and I, like, I love your dad for this.

Like, she sounds like an amazing woman. Like, seriously, they should write books about her.

Agreed. I do feel you on the ashes just being there. Is like a step too far. It is still your wedding, so you're absolutely allowed. But I do agree, like, you should, you know— but it's not your dad's wedding. Like, it's your wedding. I'm sure she was a great woman to you, but like, his like wanting to honor is for what she did for him.

Yeah.

And it's like, it's not his wedding. Maybe he should get married.

She passed 16 years ago. It's not like, you know, she just passed and she was almost here, right?

Just want to see the wedding.

Like, she came to your fitting. Like, a lot of people have passed, you know. We didn't have our, our father at our wedding. We didn't make a whole big thing, you know. You make a speech, you're like, and Dad would have been proud.

You just throw it in there.

In a—

even having a chair in the front row that just says reserved, that's very tasteful. But it's also a little bit—

it's—

an urn is nutty.

It's also morbid. Like, this is a celebration of life and of the future, and we don't need like constant reminders. So I like the idea of honoring her in some way, but it's not a funeral. That is sort of morbid. And if it doesn't feel right to you, don't do it. Don't not do it because of what his parents are going to think. Like, like what feels right to you. I do think that this is extreme.

What does this woman also mean to you? It's not your dad's wedding. So like if she was a really important figure in your life and you wanna honor her for you, like, you know, people have little pictures sewn into their veil. Like there's so many sweet things you could do. Yeah. An urn, I agree, is really nutty. Um, but what about you? Like, do you care to honor this woman? Like in big or small ways? If you do, there's a lot of really beautiful ways people honor loved ones.

Yeah.

If you just wanna do it for your dad, like, okay, she she can be mentioned in the speech, or like, just, yeah, not to be like rude, but what does she mean to you?

Yeah, I feel like a lot of people get married with people having passed, and like, they're— I've not really heard of like a chair. Like, I don't know, it just—

I haven't heard of that either, but I think it's a chair. The urn is—

no, a chair sounds like a sweet idea, but it's kind of a big thing to do, you know?

It's hard to get a chair at a wedding too. Like, oh, that's a place I'm always— that's like me, I'm always looking for a seat.

It. Yeah, so I don't know, you don't, don't feel like you have to like make this whole thing like a tribute to her. It's not what it's meant to be.

Agreed, agreed.

With the utmost respect, I say that.

We have a little bit of bachelorette party drama. Hi, is it Acquired?

Is it Acquired writing in?

Uh, no, but if your friend was an influencer, you wouldn't be in this situation, so everybody should be friends with Acquired. Ready? Hi. Okay, so I was invited on a bachelorette party for one of my good friends from high school. I paid for everything up front, but something came up for my family and I ending up not being able to go. I texted the maid of honor, um, and said, don't worry about getting me my money back. I don't want the other girls to have to pay extra because I had this last minute thing.

That's tough.

The day the trip comes and I find out that they invited another girl to take my place, which is totally fine, but she's going for free. Oh, because I've already— I've already paid and she's going in my place. Absolutely fucking not. Is it wrong of me to think that this is absolutely crazy? They found another girl, didn't tell me, and didn't give me any of my money back. That's rude, right? I didn't want my money back to help the other girls, not for someone I don't even know to go for free. Absolutely. This is insane.

That is insane. I— you were so generous to have left your money on because it's true, they would have to pay more if you pulled your money out. You wouldn't even be wrong.

Very mature of you.

But like, that's very big of you. But, um, you got another person to go. That doesn't mean that someone gets a free trip. It means you get your money back.

This is not like Make-A-Wish. Like, you were doing a nice thing and they're taking advantage of you. I don't know how you bring it up. Um, you definitely don't bring it up to the bride because like this is not her problem.

But no, sorry, you like bring it up to the bride and whoever, if there's someone in charge. But typically the bride's in charge. I mean, some people have their maid of honor running the show.

No, I think typically the maid of honor's not in our situations.

Like, if you had an issue with my bachelorette, like bring it to me. And it's not— I'm just a bride, like I can handle a little conflict.

I completely agree.

It's not like I just returned from war.

Don't bring it up to me. No, the freeloader owes you money.

Yeah, bring it up to the bride. I don't know why people act like brides like can't be spoken to, like they have too much on their— like, she's just going on vacation for a party.

And also, the bachelorette party is like months before the wedding.

She's going on vacation for a party she's having. She's gonna be okay.

She's going on vacation for a party. It's true.

Like, to celebrate a joyous occasion. Like, she can handle stuff.

Yeah, some of the other girls, like the single ones, don't bother them with this. They have a lot going on. Okay, speed It's true. Like, they're the ones who have like so much on their plate.

Yeah.

Will I ever find someone?

But the idea is like, don't bother the bride. Like, she's literally having the time of her life.

No. And she's the one like being, you know, carried off into the sunset.

Yeah. No. And she knows all of the people here. Like, the maid of honor might know, not know you that well.

That's true.

Might not know the new girl, but like the bride knows everyone very intimately. So like, definitely raise your concerns to the bride. And just let her know, like, you were happy to leave the money if it meant people had to pay more. If someone's coming, she would like her to pay you for your trip.

I can't believe you even have to explain this. This is where situations are so frustrating. Like, if everybody could just act like a normal human being—

that's like just very logical.

It's so wrong. And like, to take advantage of your kindness— like, that was really mature and generous of you. Yeah, you sound like a great girl. I love— like, I love you. I'm sorry. Yeah, but yeah, I'll say something. Send the girl a Venmo request. Yeah, yeah, our third and final Dear Toasters is upsetting.

I hate when you say that.

It's like, okay, hey sexy mamas. I love that she calls us that.

I love this girl.

Dear— and she wrote sexay, S-E-X-A-Y. Hey sexy mamas, my husband has been begging me to make homemade adult films with him for many years, and I've always respectfully declined for numerous reasons. I'm camera shy, it's not my cup of tea, I'm definitely afraid of someone seeing it, etc. The most recent reason is because I'm 13 months postpartum with my first baby. I'm not feeling anywhere close to my best physical self, yada yada. He has fantastic pictures of me pre-baby to get him through the tough times, but he recently claimed that those pictures are not enough. A few weeks ago, I noticed him acting strange after we had sex. He was immediately looking at his phone, and I had a gut feeling that he had recorded us. I asked, he said no. Later that night, I checked his hidden photos where this, which is a folder where he keeps like my steamy photos, and he had in fact recorded us through the indoor security cameras. I confronted him and he said, 'I just really wanted something of the two of us and you would have made me delete it.' Am I overreacting by feeling weird that he lied and recorded it without my knowledge?

I feel like we have sex a normal amount. I don't feel like he's suffering without it. Should I be grateful that my man wants to watch videos of me instead of videos on the internet? Sincerely, an insecure toaster.

Oh my God, I feel really nauseous.

I know, I hate to have to tell a woman, especially a woman who's 13 months postpartum, that you're married to a sex offender, but you are. No, I'm sorry.

And this is just the beginning of the crime.

This is just the beginning. Um, this man has no respect for you or your bodily autonomy. Um, this is so bad. Like, this is so, so, so, so, so bad.

And like, no one needs to have videos of you guys having— like, the idea that he's like, made you feel like— I mean, to get him through tough times.

Did he give birth?

No, but it's like, and you're having sex with him. Like, what's the tough time?

Yeah, this is really bad. Um, not only is what he did illegal, it's enormously unethical. And this is supposed to be like your man, your protector. Um, this man has no respect for you. I'm sorry. And I hate him like so much. And I think men who do things like this— like, this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Yeah.

Um, and I feel like there's been— not saying that, that your man does this, but there's been this sort of, um, um, like cultural revelation since the Gisele Pellicott thing, right? Like people realizing that their husbands do these awful things either to them— they monitor their online activity. Like, you know, I said to Ben the other day, because, you know, I feel like when you become a mom you become aware of like how, um, normal pedophilia is. Like everybody's— everybody, every— I said, Ben, you know, like 1 in 5 American men— I made up some statistic— I'm like, you know, 1 in 5 American men is a pedophile, or like engages in some sort of pedophilic activity. Like, I read that somewhere once. I don't know if it was 1 in 5, maybe it was like 1 in 10, whatever. And he was like, you're so crazy. I'm like, I'm literally not. And I feel like once you open your eyes to like most men, there's something sinister, whether it's— yeah, the pedophilia thing. This is— I don't even know what to call this. This is, um, It is a form of abuse. Yeah. Um, you have a bad husband.

I'm sorry to be the one to tell you that. And I feel like it might take you a few years to realize, like, maybe you think we're being dramatic because, like, you sound like, am I being— I am.

Maybe I'm just being, like, sensitive.

No, you have been, like, being—

your husband has committed a sex crime.

Yeah. And he's making you think that, like, maybe you're overreacting, or like, maybe, you know, you should have done it, but you're just, like, insecure because you just had a baby. I don't care if you had a baby 15 years ago, if you've never even had a baby. Like, you have a bad husband, you have a dangerous husband. I imagine if you monitor his other online activity— and yeah, this is so bad. Like, this is so— so recording somebody having sex without their consent is like not only a crime, it is the worst thing somebody can do, like, to their partner.

Yeah.

Um, and I will help you with the retainer for a lawyer. Absolutely. You just send me, uh, an email. Like, this is insane.

Yeah.

Yeah, hate really bad. And I feel like maybe you need to like hear from someone, like you need a perspective that like this is— because maybe like in the, in like the pit of your stomach, you know that like maybe this is really bad. Or like, you know, he makes you feel like it's normal.

Like, of course I just want to see a video of us, like, you know, for the tough times. It's like, shut up.

Like, the tough times?

Like, you just had a baby and you're still having to shut the fuck up.

Why don't you shut the fuck up and rub my feet? Okay.

And they're still having sex, so there's like not tough times, correct? Yeah.

No, like marital, like, yeah, I hate your husband. Like, he's, he's a bad guy.

Yeah.

I'm sorry to like end on that, but that's Dear Toasters. Thank you to everyone who wrote in. And as always, you can email us deartoasters@gmail.com or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. Well, the place looks beautiful. It always does. Does it?

Does it anymore?

It does. I will not let, like, the sex offenders and pedophiles of the world ruin the beautiful place.

Okay, okay.

But I just think it's important that, like, everyone just remember, like, almost like everyone's a creep.

Don't trust anybody. That's what you need to remember.

Don't trust anybody. Yeah. That's such a bad—

like, no, no, okay, just keep an eye out, okay?

Yeah, don't think like these things can't happen to me. Like, so many men are so bad, like they're so evil. Like, I hate to be one of those like man-hating podcasts, but like, I feel like so many people—

so many people, people. But in this category, like, it does typically trend male.

Yeah, like women can be pedophiles and sex offenders, absolutely. But they're not like— they're usually not.

No, no, they can be. Yeah, they can be.

Yeah, it's possible.

You know, we see stories all the time, like, of like teachers and whatnot.

Yeah, but we more so see stories of male teachers. Yeah. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast of the Morning Show, where we deliver the fastest stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So you're watching us on YouTube, please subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as podcast anywhere podcasts can be found, so that's Spotify, Apple, and Spotify. Yeah, and YouTube. Um, wherever you listen to podcasts, find us at Toasty with a 5-star review about our beautiful setting in Wrigley Town. We hope you guys have an amazing day, and we'll see you tomorrow for Hot Day.

Love ya, bye!

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