Transcript of The Decade of No: Wednesday, July 8th, 2026

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Alternatively, also would have been a great theme song rooted in herstory.

When we held our, our now iconic theme song contest, I can't believe nobody submitted like a little Well, it was meant to be a twist, but we would have been like in copyright infringement.

Yeah, but always a good one. First hump day in the Hamptons.

Swirly hump day.

Yeah, swirly summer hump day today.

I just don't know if the people are ready for what I have to say. Last night's episode of Love Island was one of like the most enraging of my life.

Oh, I officially threw it peacefully.

Oh, you passed peacefully in the night? I Don't— I actually could not muster up one ounce of respect for a single person on this island except Ian, of course. Yeah, like everyone involved, I think these people are lowlifes. I think they're disgusting. Not one of them has made a good decision. And again, it's just been very difficult to watch a group of people be so dumb but also like hyping the fuck up out of each other.

I know, it's really crazy.

That's the whole theme of the whole season, everybody being like, my man, my man, this, my man, that. Hey, Kaita, my man's gonna know the second I leave the bed. Meanwhile, he didn't wake up once. It's like these group of delusional villagers surgeons. It's just, it's been painful. I'm so looking forward to getting my time back.

I think we're at 5 more episodes now, and it genuinely can't begin.

It can't come soon enough. I'm being— I'm begging to be put out of my misery. And I was getting DMs last night, people were like, you know, you could stop watching. I can't. I did not waste all my time. I did not come this far to only come this far.

Yeah, also I am starting to see like a bit of people getting fed up with the show, which I love to see. Um, obviously they're not fed up enough or at the volume that I need to hear it, but I think people are starting to ask questions now. People are saying like— there was a viral tweet about how there's been like one date, one hideaway, one group of bombshells since episode 5. Um, and that got like a lot of steam. I think people started having conversations and then of course like someone shut it down saying that a producer died this season.

So I guess like the big elephant in the room and why this show seems so poorly produced is because like the head of the ship, the captain, the executive producer of the show—

the ship—

the executive producer of the show, really, he He passed away like after the first week, and I think that like left this group of people like— this active thing is going on, the islanders don't know that this guy passed away, so like they're trying to keep it— they have no leader, um, and that's really sad.

But then someone else said they're still doing challenges which are insane to execute, like the building of all those sets, like the crazy—

build that water park, they all look like inflatable.

That's where Jeremiah and Huda went on their day.

I remember.

But yeah, some of it was inflatables, which is weird for like Not a regulation. That's how they do it in Fiji. Yeah, but some of them were like hard bottom slides.

Yeah, but a lot of them were like from Sam's Club.

Like, yeah, for sure. But that's the Fijian water park for you.

I can't wait to bring my daughter to the water park.

It would have been fun for everyone to go, like, and the couples to actually have some fun. No, like, and it was nice that the girls had like girl time and the boys had boy time, and we should do that, but like everybody needed that.

Oh my God, you wonder something hilarious. So obviously, like, I think like everyone's gonna vote for Bryce and Trinity, even though I do think that last night's episode put Casey and TT like a little bit more. And so I went on Polymarket to like see what people think. And obviously, like, look, I looked it up and it was like, who's gonna win Love Island USA? They separated by men and women, and it was like, okay, 76% of the people think that there's a 76% chance that Bryce is going to win. And I think it was like 72%, but then they show like Casey, they 20% chance, and then at the bottom it said Gabriel, less than 1%.

Well, statistically and factually, that would be correct.

Seriously hysterical. But it actually has changed so much. Kada, now people say she's a 3%. She was in the number one couple for most of the season. And of course they were not perfect.

Yeah, but they— people never liked them.

Him. Yeah, but I don't know, I feel like the first people to get to the Hideaway having a 3% chance according to Polly Market, I think that's kind of crazy.

It's always like that. Just remember Molly Mae and Tommy Fury didn't win their season.

It's almost like you don't want to win.

No, you— well, you do and you don't. I mean, in the grand scheme of things, $100,000 split two ways after taxes when you're about to like go on to make all this money, and like for what you have to go through to get that, like seriously, it's cheap at the price. And the people who win aren't always the most popular, like people who come out of the show and are successful.

So like, I just can't tell if our opinions are like unpopular. That's why I do check Polymarket, because like, I like to know what the streets are saying.

But the streets—

and I don't live in the streets, but like, I like to, you know, put my ear to the streets.

And you know what I'm ready for? I'm ready for someone to not split the money.

Love that. Download the app, the Polymarket app. Use our code Toast to get $50 to trade when you make a qualifying $20 deposit. Um, yeah, the whole splitting thing, I love. I feel like it never goes the way that I wanted to. I'm ready for Anaya and Carl to win, for Anaya to split the money, and we're finally gonna see Carl's true colors.

Brittany Cassidy will both split because like they're lovely people. Well, you know what, if Melanie and Sincere were to win, Melanie should take it all though.

Why the fuck would they win?

Uh, why? Like, just for—

we'll say, okay, we still have an official Love Island recap, so we'll save it for the end. Let's talk about more important things. Let's talk about us. Let's, let's— my flu symptoms have subsided. That's good for the most part.

It's— yeah, it was like a short summer cold.

I heard everyone's getting it, like all the cool kids. Have you heard that too?

Yeah, and I started it, so I guess that trendsetter, the coolest one, coolest one of them all.

Absolutely. Um, What did I do yesterday?

We marched.

It's hard to like update you on stuff like now that we're living together, we're sort of like—

we always have that issue when we live together because it's like we did the same thing.

How does the PFFB survive when we're cohabitating?

Was actually really born and like thrived during remote Toast. If you guys remember, before we went remote and we just like did it in New York—

oh, let's just have a glance.

Before we went remote Toast, we used to do it before Jackie moved studio in New York. There was not really a PFFB. That wasn't a thing, that wasn't an acronym. And we would sort of jump into the stories in like 2 minutes. But then once I moved and we're like leading different lives and we're catching up with each other, that segment like started to become longer and longer and people loved it so much. So like we made it like 10 to 20 minutes and it's really born of distance.

I think for the health of the show, like we need to start spending some time apart.

I know. I guess next summer like we could get separate houses.

No, no, that's not what I was suggesting. That's not what I was suggesting.

Like today I'll go do something.

Yeah, like what do you have planned for after the show?

I was actually gonna like do some things for me.

Oh, okay.

Because like, I keep wanting to go to Round Swamp and you don't want to go.

What did I say? You asked me to go to Round Swamp. I said they're closed on Mondays. They're closed on Mondays.

Every—

you asked me on Monday to go.

I think I asked you yesterday too. I like wanted some tuna fish. I didn't have any protein yesterday because like I couldn't get a meal. And then finally Ben brought home all this food. Yeah, because he was cooking yesterday. Yeah. And oh yeah, it got consumed like while I was—

everyone was eating it.

Bedtime and bath time, you like disappeared. So, and then I came back down once I was wrapped up my night routine and there was no food left. Yeah, and I didn't have dinner.

I just didn't know where you went.

When I woke up in the middle of the night a couple times, like, I felt a little faint.

How can you feel faint when you're sleeping?

It was disturbing.

Yeah, no, that was genuinely like a really unfortunate series of events, and I'm sorry that that happened.

Like, I wanted to grab some tuna and just like, we, we lost the time for tuna.

Yeah, we did lose the time for today.

I'm prioritizing meat, my protein needs, and my appetite.

Okay, so I guess I'll see you tomorrow at the PFFB unless you want—

no, but yes, so you can hear about what happens to me today tomorrow. Unless you want to join me, which is always fun. We did drive separately here, so we have two cars. We have two cars, so we don't have to do the same things. I was actually gonna do like a couple things.

Oh my God, what else?

A couple things, couple things. I don't know, I feel like shopping. I don't have enough clothes here.

Oh, okay, I feel that. We're gonna go to the Maxx?

No, I was gonna go like— there's a Reformation.

Oh yeah, I'm just not like in a place physically, mentally, or spiritually to shop for clothes in person. I placed a huge Tuckernuck order and that changed the game, but shopping IRL, the mental fortitude required is not something—

I guess I could, but everything I've ordered out here like hasn't come.

The thing about ordering online is like it's such a good idea because it's like, oh yeah, let me sit on the couch instead of going, but it just never— it never comes. Like, you—

when it comes, I'm like, who ordered this?

You get genuinely delirious when you're shopping online. Like, you forget who you are, you forget what you look like, you forget what your style is, you forget what it's like. Then you have to open up the box, like, but it's like, seriously, who ordered this? I would never ever wear that. Something about it being online, like you get delusional.

When I'm in store, I'm like, ugh, I should just order online. I'm like tired.

1,000%.

And then when I'm ordering online, I'm like, I gotta see these things in store.

That's why I just prefer like not wearing clothes. Oh, you know, I started, I saw this TikTok account today. I know you don't have TikTok, but you would love it. It's called like Old Gossip where she talks about like things that happened in like the Founding Fathers' day. She was talking about how like, you know, back in the day people really used to smell. Of course. And like bathing regularly was not a thing. If you were really rich, you had like a basin of water that you would like maybe weekly rinse yourself with. But Benjamin Franklin actually, you're gonna love this. So people used to think that like the air was dirty and so like you wouldn't want the air to touch your skin. They think that the oils on your skin would help you protect from the dirty air. But Benjamin Franklin was like, you know what? I actually think the air could clean us instead of hurt us. So his way of bathing was like he would wake up every morning and like stand in the nude with the windows open for like 30 to 60 minutes. And that's how he would get clean.

And then one time him and John Adams, John Adams wrote about this. I know you're reading a book on Abigail Adams, right?

I am. So John Adams, so tell me about my boy.

Was on a trip with Benjamin Franklin to France to negotiate them— peace with Britain?

No, to negotiate France joining the Patriots.

They were on a little road trip within the states, within the states, to go chat with someone about ending the American Revolution.

Oh, I haven't gotten to that part in the book yet.

So they get to the inn, it's like literally a smut novel, there's only one room and they have to share a bed. And so John Adams subscribes to like the whole notion of the air being toxic, whereas Benjamin Franklin's like, no, no, we gotta air it out, we gotta clean ourselves. And it was like this whole like drama that he wrote about in book. And I just thought you'd find that interesting.

They had to burp the house. I love burping the house.

I love fresh air.

We should burp our house.

Isn't it crazy people used to be afraid of air?

Yeah.

And they used to be afraid of tubs. Like, she was saying that, like, the woman who, like, first took a bath, like, one time she, like, wrote about it, and now it's in, like, a museum, what she wrote. She was like, it was very, very scary to have your whole body immersed in water.

Oh wow. The craziest thing about tubs back in the day, like, you know this, the, the saying, like, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater? Do you know where that comes from?

No.

So when people used to take their yearly bath— yearly families— and I guess it depended on like, you know, your level of status, but like for most families they would take a bath once a year. They would fill up the tub with clean water and they would bathe in order of birth, oldest to youngest. Men first and then women and children with the same water last, with the same water. So by the time the baby went in the water, it was black. So from a year's worth of dirt for the whole family.

Congrats.

So then they would say, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. And it was a baby get lost in the sauce.

Was water like hard to come by? Like why couldn't they refill the tub once a year? It must have been.

Yeah.

And you know, that's an opportunity for me to talk about the origin of my favorite phrase, the shit end of the stick.

Okay.

So back in the days of like outhouses, not toilet paper. There would be like a— basically there's a loofah on a stick, and in order to use it, you would have to like put it back in the holder with like the loofah part at the bottom, like a plunger. Yeah, and the stick part up. But like some people would put it in upside down and you would grab the wrong—

the shit end of the stick. Yeah, fun fact. Yuck.

I love little facts like that.

And like, yeah, then so they're all sharing a piece of toilet paper.

A piece of duty.

Yeah, basically. And then like wonder why they got sick.

Correct.

I mean, it takes time to sort these things out.

A thousand percent. I think a lot of things now that will turn out to be wildly untrue I'm like genuinely constantly grateful I was not born in an era, and I'm sure things were better about that era than they are this one, and we're not perfect by any means. The pollution, the toxicity, of course. But let me tell you, like the era of, the age of air conditioning, the age of daily, sometimes multiple times a day baths, baths for everyone no matter your income. Shower. Like I love, I love Uber Eats. Like all of the comforts of modern life, I very much enjoy.

I saw your standup.

Yeah, except even though now that I think about it, if I could choose any era, I would want like the modern era, but really before for cell phones.

'90s.

Yeah, '80s, '90s.

I think everyone agrees, like the '90s. I think people, like parents, are trying to simulate like a '90s childhood for their kids. And as someone who had one, no notes.

No notes. Yeah, like whenever I watch movies that are set and like there are adults living, like having, like going to the clubs in like the '80s or the '90s, I'm like, that looks fun.

Yeah, that's the vibe.

I'm so Jonathan Haidt.

Like you still have a phone, you can cancel plans last minute. Yeah, because like imagine back in the day you made a plan, like be a courier And you have to show up.

Yeah, but I think back in the day there wasn't a lot going on, so like the plans, like you were actually lit for—

you're still you, you're still you back in the day.

Yeah, I don't— yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's your history, like your Herstory lesson. The stories are good, good. Lots of like little things to touch on. Um, I'm feeling good about it, definitely like more hopeful than yesterday.

Okay, that's good.

Uh, but it's definitely still, you know, the summer slump and the TNT. Hangover.

Yeah, it's more so like list of people who were invited and didn't go. Yeah, I just saw this morning when I was scrolling, James Taylor, your boy, Ben's boy, he was invited but couldn't go.

And I'm also seeing like a couple brave souls are speaking out about how they weren't invited and they're like completely pissed. That guy with the bus, busing with the boys. And also someone who works— an NFL retiree who does a lot with TEU and like works with Travis. And like, I I'm sure they like actually forgot a couple people and it's like, it's brave to say it.

Yeah, the thing is with the bussing guy, um, I definitely thought like him and Travis were friends. Travis went on his bus, but like he does seem— because he's on Barça Radio talking about it, like kind of feels like a big mouth. Yeah, and that's like the type of energy like they were not looking for.

I don't know, 1,500 people, like that's just—

no, I know, one big— but he is technically a member of the press, but everyone kept their mouth shut, so like Yeah, and plenty of members of GMA were there and they went on the show the next day.

I mean, of course you're gonna forget people. I just think it's like really crazy because like now for sure you're done. Like if you're complaining about that, you weren't invited.

Like then to go public with the complaints, I wouldn't do it.

Charles Barkley said that he was invited but didn't attend.

He doesn't like to go to weddings and like get dressed up. He'd rather just stay home and golf.

That's what he said.

He doesn't go to weddings or funerals, he said. Oh, it's kind of rude.

Okay, I mean, know thyself.

I don't like going to weddings, and I don't go to most of the ones. No, I don't go to most of the ones that I'm invited to. I talk about this a lot, like, people just invite me places because, like, Ben is really friendly with a lot of people, and then obviously, like, I have to go with Ben. But then also, if people, like, loosely know me, they invite me to their weddings because I'm, like, really fun, and I'm, like, a very low-level celebrity. So it's like, you know, it's fun.

I had a celebrity at my wedding.

It's fun and exciting. Um, but most of the time I don't go because it's, like, a long affair. And I find that like weddings are really not fun unless you know the couple very deeply. I'm at a wedding, like I want to be involved. Like, yeah, am I sitting in the front? Like, am I important to this affair? Am I related? Like, if I'm just like a rando, like seriously, I'd rather stay home.

I disagree completely. You're allowed. I think weddings are so fun. They're obviously so fun and special when you're close with the couple, but they're also fun when you're not super close. Like, I don't want to be responsible. For the joie de vivre. I just wanna like enjoy it. I love dancing to wedding music. I love dancing.

That's like, but you know how much it takes to get to the dancing part? Yeah. All day getting ready. Cocktail hour, ceremony. If it's a Jewish, a bedeken, like it's hours before I'm actually full of food.

But there's like good food.

Uh, sometimes pretty good.

It's usually good food.

I'm literally, when I go to a wedding, you are a picky eater. When I go to a wedding, I'm deadass like a contestant on Four Weddings. I'm giving a score for the decor, for the dress, for the food, and I'm like constantly complaining about everything, like those miserable brides on the show.

I always show up hungry, and I'm like, where's the food at?

I love the cocktail hour. Like, I find that the hors d'oeuvres— yeah, when I'm like waiting for my food to be brought to me at like a sit-down wedding, first of all, I never get the food in like the time that I need it to, and you can't really pick, it's just like pre-plated. I do love a cocktail hour. I love a buffet, like we were saying earlier in the week. Um, so yeah, I just like— I don't love weddings unless like I love the people.

Yeah, yeah, I, I can find joy in all sorts of kinds of weddings.

The song is beautiful. The music is good. And hot take, I really don't like funerals.

Have you been to so many?

I know that's like very—

is that a hot—

I know it's a really, really hot take.

I don't think it is. I don't think anybody wants to go to a funeral.

I've been to my fair share. They're just like very upsetting.

They're very upsetting.

Yeah, they're sad.

They're very sad. Did you find— yeah. So, um, which is why you have to go to weddings to balance it out. I guess that's why—

doesn't go to either.

Well, I guess that's fair because it's like not fair to only go to weddings and say I have a no funerals rule, right? That's not life. You have to take the good the bad.

Absolutely.

And then of course, don't only go to funerals.

That would be bad, which kind of feels like what I do.

So you need to go to more weddings.

Yeah, yeah. Or I just need to stop leaving my house. That's like really what I—

I know you have a backyard wedding.

No, it's not time for like New Year's resolutions, but I'm sure in like the Chinese New Year or the Jewish calendar, it's coming up.

It's no longer the year of yes for you.

It has not been the year of yes for like 3 years.

But you loved your year of yes.

I wouldn't be the girl I am today without my year of yes. Absolutely. And there was a time and a place for that. I feel like I'm in my decade of no, and like, knowing that is powerful. Like, feeling comfortable like saying no to stuff. Like, literally Ben was texting this morning, like, people making plans like without my authorization, and I'm like, it's so funny that he thinks I'm going to any of this. And like, no, literally zero.

She's really gonna hate to hear this, that it's the decade of no.

Yeah, because for Ben it's a lifetime of yes.

Yeah, it's the centennial of Yeah, and he shouldn't have—

you shouldn't have gone to that party on Saturday night because like it was curative for me. Like I went to a party and I am truly set for a decade now. Yeah, and for Ben, just gave him like a taste of what, what we're not doing.

Yeah, he thought it was like more, oh, we're getting started.

That is like where we are most different in life. Like as we grew up, like Ben maybe even more so became even more social, and for me I'm like actually a hermit who lives in the ground, and every time I go somewhere I really regret it. That's sort of like what Ben and I are working on in therapy. Yeah, if you must know.

Well, maybe we'll have some like fun, fun outings this summer. Like maybe—

or like we could have fun in the house.

We're always having fun in the house, so that's not a maybe, that's a for certain.

That's why it's so important to have shallow bite. You have to love your home and you have to job your love.

Of course, I have like a couple things, but I'm very selective so that when I do leave, the chances I'm gonna regret it are slim. Yeah, so selection.

So decade of no.

Okay, I'll tell Ben.

Oh yeah, I can't, so somebody please clip it for Ben. Justice for Ben.

Are you ready? I didn't say justice for—

oh, what'd you say?

I said clip it for Ben.

Clip it for Ben. Yeah, that's a good way to tell a message. Like, you have a hard truth you want to share, share it in a podcast clip.

He probably wouldn't watch it. Are you ready for the— he probably wouldn't.

No, he wouldn't.

Are you ready for the fast side stories?

You're like laying in bed with your partner and you like see them like they're scrolling playing and you hear like your own voice or video and they scroll right past it.

I know, I'm lucky. And I'm like, what do you do with that?

It's like, I know you don't watch the whole show, you can't even watch the clips. What are you gonna do with that?

I like my stories.

I know when people like tell us— and you don't have to listen to my podcast, of course, it's 5 days a week— but I know Taylor Strecker, and I literally love her so much, she always maintains that she watches The Toast. And anytime we're talking about it, she just like references the clips. Like, so you watch the clips? Like, that's totally fine. But Ben can't even watch the clip.

I feel like there are people who consider themselves Toasters, or like for other podcasts, like fans of that show if they consume the clips. Like, would you consider someone like a fan of The Toast if they watch all of our clips but they don't listen to the podcast? It's a different level, but it is a version of toast.

In order to— I would never, I would never knock anyone for engaging with me in any way. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe, of course. But if I had my druthers, if I'm being like nitpicky, no, you're not a toaster. Our lore goes so deep.

No, but like sometimes I'll see like clips from a show and I'll be like, oh, I like that show. Yeah, I don't listen to it, but like if it comes up in conversation, I'll be like, that's a good show, I like it.

That's kind of how I feel about Grey's Anatomy. Like, I've never watched an episode, but I see the vertical videos all the time.

You guys, the amount of movies I'm watching on Instagram is getting—

I can't wait to see if Sally Field makes it back from Afghanistan.

It's getting to a fever pitch.

Yeah, I know.

There— I'm watching one about this girl who was trapped in the basement by her father. Oh, I've seen that one where she was gonna run away, and the night before she ran away, he holds her captive in the basement of their home. Everyone thinks she ran away, and I just saw how she got to the hospital, and then he starts—

I've seen that one.

Disturbing.

I love movies like that. I know, like not a bad kid.

I have to actively like not watch them so I don't get served them. Yeah, because I'm losing like hours of my life. It's like I wake up in the morning and I watch a movie. Yeah, actually I woke up this morning and you know what I watched? What I got to see before I even brushed my teeth?

Sunrise?

No, on my phone.

What?

Colorized photos of the Romanovs.

Oh, I like AI-generated history content. That shit is cool.

It was actually amazing photos.

I told you about how I learned about the bath.

The Russian Imperial family. And what's so crazy is the Tsar of Russia Victoria and King George of England at the time. They were cousins because they're both, um, grandchildren of Queen Victoria, and they look so much alike. Spooky. Yeah, but then like he couldn't have him come and they got killed. Spoiler alert.

Spoiler. No, I've seen, uh, The Crown, like that one episode where they talk about—

Yeah, and they wouldn't let them come, so I know.

Terrible.

It's terrible.

Well, I think we've pffp'd enough.

And then you also saw the episode where they dug up the bones.

Of course. Yes, of course I did see the episode.

So I guess that's the same episode 'cause they flash back.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's like one dedicated Russian episode of The Crown.

It's very good. Yeah. It's a very good episode.

All right, I think we've, I don't know, you were the one. I just feel like once we get to the Romanovs, like it's a good time to dive in.

That's when I think we're just getting started.

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Our first story just feels like I need to mention it. People are speculating that Margaret Qualley and Taylor have broken up.

So there's a lot of proof.

Yeah, so she wasn't at the wedding, which people just thought meant to be that like Margaret and Taylor aren't tight and that she chose like whatever work obligation that she had. But now she's deleted— I haven't seen this for my own two eyes. I don't know what photos she had that are no longer there.

She didn't have a lot. She doesn't use Instagram a lot. So apparently she had two, right? They have been deleted. And a little while ago she changed her Instagram username. She had like this funky username that was a reference to one of his songs, and then like a couple of weeks ago she just changed it. Um, now in hindsight, like, it looks like she is cleansing him from her life. He brought his sister as his tattletaler's wedding, and then yesterday he was spotted out again with his sister. And it's like, you had a sister this whole time? Like, I feel like you only hang out with your sister like when you're getting divorced, perhaps, or your wife is away filming a project. I just want to say I am giddy about this.

Really?

One thing about me, I love, love Margaret Qualley. I think she's like arguably the most beautiful girl in Hollywood right now. And also a fun fact about me, I fucking hate Jack Antonoff. Like he just gives me the worst vibes. And it's crazy 'cause he's like always with my swirlies. He's a Sabrina producer, he's with Taylor. I don't know why, I just like hate him. It all goes back to that Lena Dunham article if I'm being 100% honest. Like she was guilty for that too, but it's like you let your girlfriend talk about you like that. So also to say, I hate— I hate him. The fact that they were together really never made sense to me. Like, sorry, things are just not adding up. Like, I know you're successful, and of course as a successful man, like, you always are— you're entitled to a beautiful woman. Okay, yes, Andrew Tate, thank you. Um, thank you. But like, she's a successful woman, so it's like, I don't know why she was slamming it with him. Like, I just never understood them together. And I'm like, if this is true, I'm so fucking hype. Like, I hated them together.

Funny, I thought they made so much sense.

Why?

They just like—

I'm sorry, Andie MacDowell, like, she has to fit.

Like, how? They just like, they look alike, they're artsy, they're successful.

She's like glamor Hollywood and he's like very Bushwick. I'm sorry, like, their aesthetics don't match. She's so glamorous, nepo Hollywood queen who like out-nepo'd her mother. I'm sorry, Margaret Qualley is an icon and she will go down as like our generation's like Anne Hathaway. Like she's gonna be— and she's with him? No, I don't think so. I'm sorry, it just, it didn't, it just didn't make sense.

And they got married very recently too. It's just such a big deal to get married.

She wasn't like that famous. Like she was, she was just like an actress. She is recently, I think, well, that was like a lot of Oscar hype in the last like 2 years. But I feel like when they first started dating and then got married, like she didn't know yet that she was going to be so big. So yeah, she like—

oh, interesting—

she accepted what she thought she could get.

That's not how I see it. And so because I see it the way that I do, which is like marriage pretty much like of equals who are doing big things, I think something crazy happened. Oh really? It sounded like she woke up one day and was like, I can do better.

Well, he is like a notorious philanderer. The nerve! Like imagine being a philanderer. Um, yeah, you know, he stepped out on, I think I think Lena Dunham with Lorde. There's like a lot of drama. Yeah, I'm sorry, like Lena Dunham stays winning. Someone— I just saw the funniest tweet. It's like Margaret Qualley and Jack Antonoff getting divorced, like all these things happen, like, oh, Adam Driver's like in hiding, like, and it's like Lena Dunham slays. Like, it's like her power. She's so powerful. Um, today, yeah, I—

she had to go away.

Like I said, the power of going away. I'm ready for Jack Antonoff to go away. I just like— I, um, I, I keep my foot on his neck. I really don't like him. And I have my reasons. You're entitled to them.

You are.

That's the word you were looking for, entitled. I love this. I hope it's true. Fingers crossed.

Yeah, but then like no more Taylor-Margaret friendship.

No, I think that they could still be friends. Taylor like is friends with Sophia Joe, Lena Dunham, but she's not friends with Lorde.

But separate. But like she was friends with Lena Dunham even when her best friend was Jack Antonoff and he was married to someone else.

Yeah, it's true. No, no, I think she'll like keep— if her and Margaret like were ever really that close. I don't think that they were.

I don't think so either.

She was really much just like so supportive, her co-worker's wife.

Yeah, yeah.

I hope this is true.

Are you ready for our next story, which is just such exciting news?

More exciting than Jack Antonoff and Mark Whaley?

Yes, for me, probably like equivalent for me.

For you? Okay, what happened with the Romanoffs?

Dream team Molly Mae, Alex Earle, and Stassi baby, um, were spotted together at Wimbledon. They took a photo that was sent to me 1,000 times. Um, very, very exciting.

Yeah, I didn't realize Wimbledon was happening, so thank you to Alex Earl for letting us know. She got a lot of hate for her outfit.

I saw—

I'm sorry, like, this is British. Like, this is just— look at— I thought her and Molly Mae were on the same level of like attire.

Yeah, yeah. And they seem to be like in a— oh, I guess they're all in suites. This is the Evian suite. No, I think she looks great.

Wimbledon is just like so elegant.

It is. And it's like you could really have fun with the fashion. There are so many like avenues.

What did Paige Rennes wear?

Was she there? I don't know, because I'm— I know she was in her backyard yesterday.

I feel like now would be a good time to bring up the fact that Morgz blocked us. We don't know her, and we talked about her like twice, just saying like now that her and the guy broke up, like obviously the WAG wars are over because like she stepped out. She blocked me, my like fake personal account that I never use. She blocked Jackie and she blocked The Toast. What did we say? Was it something we said? Like, I didn't even have like a— I don't even dislike her now. I do. But yeah, somebody sent me something. I'm like, I'm blocked. Whose account is this? Yeah, they're like, Morgz.

So you've been to your other account and then you send it to me and none of us can see.

I was like, what in the world? Yeah, I didn't know like people actually blocked. No, I block like haters. I guess like she thought maybe we were being haters, that we were like—

yeah, I would block someone who I didn't want to see my page. They could form a negative opinion.

But I just want to say factually what we said was that like she lost the WAG Worse just by default, like she left the building. That's all be said.

Yeah, but we don't even know when she blocked us, like it could have been years ago.

It's true. I know, but I think like, I think it, I think that it was recent. I think it was like right after we spoke about it, because we covered that they broke up, right? Or we covered that he was with Olivia Jade and how much we loved it. Maybe she hated that. Maybe said they were like the best couple ever, and like, maybe, maybe. So crazy to be blocked. Are you blocked by Anyone else? I'm sure of like notoriously blocked. I was blocked for a while by Fuck Jerry, of course, but we worked things out.

Yeah, we did work things out.

I think I still am, but like, but no, I actually, I did DM him. I forgot to be like, I texted him like, can you unblock please now that we're cool? And he did swiftly.

So yeah, yeah, I may still be blocked.

Who else?

But that was really—

it's hard to know who you're blocked by, like, because that's the whole point. Yeah, so you're blocked.

But no, I think I'm— I think my side of the street is clean.

I keep my side of the street clean.

I haven't blocked someone in forever.

Wouldn't know what that means.

Was she out? Oh, I guess I wouldn't know if she was.

I don't think she was at Wimbledon, but I did see she's like getting her ass handed to her for this thing she said on a podcast about how like she— it was kind of like a nutty, like, very self-centered take about how like tennis, um, like used to be marketed towards men, talking about stats and facts. And now tennis is like marketed towards women where we're like talking about the fashion. It was just like calling women dumb. Like, women can't be into like stats. We have to be into fashion.

I saw that clip.

Yeah, I saw like a bunch of like think pieces on TikTok. I can't lie, I didn't watch them because I personally don't care, right?

Like, was that the backlash? Is that like it's reductive for women?

But in order for women to be involved, like, it has to be about the fashion?

Yeah, like, no, women can play sports, right?

Right, there's like a sport for that.

Well, Molly, I'm so happy for her. She just had the baby. She looks like so amazing. She seems to be doing so well.

It's not her decade of no, no.

And also she had a hard time postpartum with Bambi. Like, she— it was like, she's very new and like she felt very alone and she like really struggled. So I think she's really able to like enjoy this season now being like an expert in motherhood.

I do think about that. Like, I'm so late to have another baby. Let me tell you, I'm gonna crush that shit. Meanwhile, I'm gonna get like crazy postpartum depression. But like, I just feel like so equipped now. Like, I know all the—

you can get excited. You're not scared.

I'm not scared. I know the products. I know exactly what to have. I know what I need. I know what I don't need. And like, I'm lit. Like, let's do it.

Yeah, in due time. Yeah, so I'm really happy for her.

Me too.

It seems to be going well.

Yeah, she looks great.

And Sassy Baby too, which, um, new friend, like newfound friendship. Would have loved to see like Kylie out there shaking that thing.

I do think that like a Kylie-Alex girl hangout is definitely imminent.

And Molly Mae, sure.

Why not? Sure. She— Molly Mae is just like very much a British ambassador.

Yeah, she is, but she gets down.

Of course. Did she ever come to like the States?

I— she did one time on her YouTube. I saw like she went to New York.

Overwhelming.

Yeah, but she has to come meet us. I think she would love us.

Everybody loves us. You're not seeing double, you're seeing trouble.

Um, so yeah, Wimbledon's going down.

I never got to recap the Real Housewives of Rhode Island reunion, and I'm not going to, but I just wanted to say it was fantastic. Um, Oh, we didn't even talk about, you know, Liz isn't coming back. I, I do know, and everyone collectively had like a, a weird response to it because like it is very suspicious. I guess she has like some, like, people think she's like investigated by the FBI, like Teresa stuff. Um, I just think like she's the queen of Rhode Island in real life. She came on the show and honestly she looked so bad. I think if she returned for a second season, her whole role of being like queen mother and everybody respecting her, it's not the case anymore. Like randoms like Alicia have the fans behind their back, and Joellen, like Rosie, What?

Who's Alicia?

Cracker.

Oh, Cracker. Okay, your favorite. I just don't think of her as an Alicia.

What do you think of her as? I know it's 2.0. She looks just like—

like, it's Cracker.

I think that, like, she just didn't— like, she had a bad first season, and I think it was just gonna get worse because people were, like, just starting to get onto her.

I don't think it would have gotten worse. I think it was a little bit of a premature resignation because I think, like, she—

or, like, the Dino stuff, I guess. Like, her husband— when she talks about her husband, well, then she had to— getting into, like, international fishing, people think it's like a drug. Yeah, code for something like what 6-year-old man picks up and leaves for a new hobby? He's—

and he like wins prize money with Dino.

Like, it's just weird.

Like, yeah, okay, if that's the case, then yeah, but she has something on TV. Don't be on TV. But I think if it's just a matter of like it didn't go well for her and she doesn't want to do it again, I think it would get better for her because I do think like she has so much lore. She's very like tough and like gritty, strong-willed, and I think you know, she could have a redemptive season. I think it actually could only get better for her.

No, I think that she coasted through this season on a lot of the goodwill from just being like top dog in town, but that over the course of the season and then how the season played out with the fans, like, you might be top dog, but in this town we don't give a fuck. Like, you suck.

I think eventually, like, the— for the reasons why she's top dog in that town, like, eventually she would be top dog on the show, maybe, but I don't think it would be second season.

It was so good. Like, I'm telling They picked this like ragtag group of women with insane lore, old school friendships. I loved it. I can't wait for season 2, and I'm so glad I deviated briefly, but Team Rosie, like, she's such a fucking queen. She handled the whole thing like insane. I love her.

Okay, are you ready for our next story?

Whatever.

Number 3. Yeah, new guest sharks on Shark Tank have been announced for this season. Um, MrBeast.

Oh, you're kidding.

Mindy Kaling. Oh my queen.

JJ Watt. What? Okay, yeah, love.

Diary of a CEO podcast host Stephen Bartlett.

Okay, that guy gives me like grifter vibes, but continue.

And Sarah and Aaron Foster will be guest sharks on this season of Shark Tank, including Barbara Corcoran, Lori Grenier, Robert Herjavec, Daymond John, Daniel Lubetzky. Who's that one?

The Kind Bar. Kind Bars, a child of Holocaust survivors.

Yes, yes. I just, I just like don't love Kind Bars.

Yeah, remember when they found out that they're just as fattening as the Snickers?

Class. So glad I was eating Snickers, not Kind Kevin O'Leary, Kendra Scott, and Rashawn Williams.

Kendra Scott is like a mainstay now.

She'll be on the one of the permanent sharks. She won't be every episode, but you know, this is a lot of sharks. Yeah, he did.

I remember that.

He's not listed here.

Now, I don't want to be ungrateful because I love all these people. I love the Fosters. I love that they have a podcaster in there, honestly. Stephen Bartlett, like, I do—

the three— Sarah and MrBeast's podcaster. No, everyone's a podcaster.

I know, but like, Stephen Bartlett's like main thing. I just like, I liked when they were introducing us to like rando business people, not like celebrities. Not to be like a celebrity hater, cuz like I literally like built my life around celebrities. But for my guest sharks, it was nice every now and then like they threw a Bethany in there. But I like learning about— there's the Vitaminwater guy, like I never would have heard of him.

No, but like Bethany was a perfect guest shark. She was a celebrity who has— who's done like huge business. Now all of these people have like big businesses, but I don't think of them as like investors, iconic business people. Like Bethany is an iconic businesswoman.

It's true.

At this point. MrBeast is very wealthy.

Yes.

And is he good with money? Is that—

well, he has of course his Beast candies.

Yeah, he has the Beast games.

I think he is.

I think he, he's got like—

but I don't think of him as a business person at all. I think of it as like an online personality, right?

But if they're like having like digital brands come through, like I actually think if for that—

I'm sure like he got good deals.

But also I think MrBeast is a good one.

I just liked when the guest sharks were like introducing me to to CEOs, investors whom I never heard of. Like, it's just nice to meet new people every now and then.

For sure. Mindy Kaling, like, I love her.

What's she doing at Shark Tank? Like, I love— she was so— she's like one of my role models. I love her. But like, okay. JJ Watt, like, I know he invests.

He invests.

I don't know, he's always doing stuff. He does charity. Love that.

And I think that in order to be a guest shark, you have to have a net worth of $100 million. I was gonna say $300 $300,000. The new $100,000.

Shark, $100,000. Very poor.

Yeah, well then all these people probably qualify. Yeah, I just— and Diary of a CEO, where's he?

He's making $20,000 in the podcast space. I just like, I don't know, I'm uninspired. I didn't— I knew all those people.

And Sarah and Erin Foster, I love them, and they're probably coming on as like favorite daughter retail founders.

They also invest a lot in other companies because their moneyed. Yes, moneyed individuals. But like, I really would love to just meet new business people. There are only so many ways like a business person can get famous, and now the guest shark, it's been taken over by celebrities and influencers.

You know who should be a guest shark?

Let me think. Give me a clue.

Um, he was Businessman of the Week once.

Oh, Nicole Kidman's boyfriend? Yes, Paul Salem. Oh, by the way, we could— we have a frame over there. We should do Businessman of the Week now.

We should.

I love that.

Okay, you print.

No, let's get like a photo printer for the house. Yes.

Yeah. Um, but you know what, I love Shark Tank. I'm sure I'll be watching these episodes because Zach doesn't miss an episode.

Does he still not record?

He watches it every—

like, it's such a good show. It's such a good show. Yeah, it's actually crazy that Mark Cuban's not there anymore. I feel like that wasn't made a big enough deal.

I— yeah, well, I mean, all things come to an end, you know, season 18.

Like, it's okay when you are a billionaire. Like, you go on TV for fun, not for money. So I guess he— maybe he stopped having fun.

Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

Didn't he also sell the Dallas Mavericks?

Did he?

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You're welcome. I make sure we really wide. Thanks for bringing that up.

Thank you, Turt Slim. Agreed. Next story: Mariska Hargitay will be hosting the Emmys. She's the first woman to emcee the show in 15 years.

That's like so embarrassing. I just want to say, I'm so sick of Hollywood elites like telling us about this and that. Walk the walk, they just talk the talk. Am I right? That's really powerful. I just want to say, I don't like this, only because—

okay, she's pissed a woman hasn't hosted and she's not supporting.

Well, I just like, I'm very protective over Mariska, and I just feel like this is such a thankless job. Everybody hates you. Like, she's not, she's not going to be telling like risky jokes. She's not like an out-there type of comic. Like, so I just feel like if this goes poorly, like, Mariska Hargitay has like actually never known like scandal in her life, or like, you know, not being— she's always been beloved in the public eye, and it's really hard for someone like that to go through like a—

so I think at a glance, I think Mariska has the potential to be like America's, like a Kelly Clarkson. I agree. Meredith Vieira furniture line, morning show, clothing line, everything. She's so beloved. I wouldn't be surprised if like she has a new management or a new strategy in place where it's like, let's take Mariska to the next level. She's tested in this business for so many years, for decades, all across America. Everybody loves her in every category. And like, let's bring her into more households. Let's make— like, she could be a billionaire, seriously.

It's so true.

So hosting the Emmys, you don't have to tell jokes, you don't have to like be shrewd, you just have to be likable. Like, do it in a way that like Kelly does the Billboard Music Awards. I think this could be like step one to the Mariska revolution, like the Rachel Ray pipeline, because Rachel Ray is a billionaire.

You're absolutely right that she does not commercialize enough. Like, she just— and I, I love her commitment to her job because she's never missed an episode, you know. She doesn't leave, she doesn't go on hiatus. But I do feel like that commitment hinders other opportunities. Like, she definitely needs a Wayfair line. She definitely needs a pet food— like, Rachael Ray slaps her fucking name on everything. She sells pet food. Yeah, she sells like Ziploc containers. Mariska needs a little bit of that.

Yeah, and I think it's, it's within reach. I think that she's leaving a lot of money on the table because she has like a Q score that you can't— you couldn't even dream of.

She is— you're right— in the Hall of Fame of Q scores with Kelly Clarkson.

Who else? Kelly should be a guest.

Shark. Does Kelly have a business? Oh yeah, of course.

Multiple.

Wayfair.

Who else is in the Hall of Fame of Q scores?

Yeah, like, like Oprah. Yes, Oprah. And like, in terms of putting your name on stuff and having like a billion-dollar business, Reese Witherspoon.

Yeah, yeah. So I think it's Mariska's time, and this is a good first step. She's a TV, so if it doesn't work out, she— it's not so far-fetched. She works in TV, she's hosting the Emmys, Big Whoop, right?

Okay, you know You know what, the way you have— if it is indeed a part of like a 5-point plan.

Yeah, I like it. So say she does a good job. Oh, she's a good host. Let's tap her. She's gonna host this daytime show.

Maybe she'll replace Kelly.

Yeah.

Did they ever say who was replacing Kelly?

Pink?

No, that was like a rumor, and we said she was like a little too hotheaded.

Yeah, I don't know. I, I like lost interest, I guess.

Yeah, it's a hard role to fill.

Marisha's on her way. It—

you have to admit, like, it feels a bit random.

It always feels random.

No, because they pull from the same— if it's like a stand-up or a late night host, like, that doesn't feel random.

Like, who hosts?

But you know what, like, Emmys are about like TV actors. So yeah, let's get like the biggest one. That's my queen right there.

Yeah. The last time they had the Emmys in 2022, Keenan hosted. Oh yeah, that was NBC. So it's NBC, so it's— they're pulling from NBC Talent, of course, from the Dick Wolf Productions. And then in 2020, Ice-T and Coco to host next in 2018. Um, you were great.

Did you see that Bunny XO was making out with someone? He's from Calabasas Confidential.

That show that he was on the reality show, I didn't like click through.

I read the comments.

Isn't that a bunch of like teenagers, allegedly, or they're home from college?

Even worse.

Damn. Okay, are you ready for our fifth and final story?

Oh, so soon.

Major news for namesake.

What did Michaela Nogueira do?

The other one.

Levi from Summer House? Another Michaela?

No, male namesake.

Let's Marry Harry.

Let's Marry Harry. First look at Harry Jowsey's new Netflix reality show Let's Marry Harry has dropped. So Harry Jowsey is set to headline his own reality dating series at Netflix. Netflix, which we had heard this, that like Let's Marry Harry was gonna happen. It's a dating, like a Bachelor-style show, right?

About catching Kelsey. It's Catching Harry Jowsey, 1,000% alternative title.

But it filmed, it's coming out August 5th. He will be with his brother and his ex-girlfriend.

Okay.

And, um, they're not his brother. Yes, Amanda Klutz.

Okay, I saw that she had posted about it and I was wondering if like she was the host. That feels really random.

So instead of just using his own judgment, Chauzy will rely on the opinions of his close friends Amanda Klutz—

oh, long time bestie—

Georgia Hassarati, who's his ex-girlfriend, okay, and abstract artist Sunny Henty to sway his romantic decision.

I can't believe that they didn't put you on the panel because you are Harry Chauzy's not only best friend but number one fan.

They should have put me on the panel. You know what's right for Harry, and I would—

and they need that sort of wise older woman, like, 1,000%. Not that you're old, of course, but you have like old energy.

That's my right there, right? I think like Amanda Klutz is. Oh, and like not to step on her toes, but I like—

that's my job, bitch.

I would have been better. Maybe instead of Potsters, right, I could have been on Let's Marry Harry as a panelist.

Let me tell you something, like people say what they want about Alex Cooper, she's firing on all motherfucking cylinders. Like the Nina Dobrev, she's— what is she adapting? What book did we just talk about that everyone loves?

Oh, I put it on my want to read, right?

Um, oh, oh, oh, the Icebreakers.

Oh yeah, Icebreakers. Um, but a different one that I want.

That's not the one.

You can't keep a a good businesswoman down.

Now she sold this to Netflix.

Like, You Deserve to Know is the other one. Yeah.

And I feel like now that it, like, it has really passed, it didn't really stick.

Yeah.

Yes, we do still have Sofia's book, and I guess Alex Earl one day is going to tell us what happened between them on her reality show. But at some point, like, when you make people wait too long, they do stop caring. And I fear that that might be what happened. And like, Daddy Gang is good at Daddy Gang.

Yeah. One thing about me, I'll be watching this.

You're gonna marry Harry.

I'm gonna—

you could be our official course. The way that I recapped Rhode Island Housewives, because I'm not watching this.

Uh, you— we're gonna be together, so you're gonna—

oh, it's coming out soon, August 5th. I'm just letting you know, like, now that Love Island, like, will be over, I need to be more selective with my time.

You never know how these things could pay off. I watched Catching Kelsey in real time.

You did, you did.

And like, that just gave me an insight, of course, into someone who would become like ahead of the curve, mainly like a hugely important historical figure. Like that wedding will go down as like the biggest wedding of the 21st century.

And like, we were here for it, and you were there first.

And I saw him like talking to girls with like LMFAO. Yeah, taking him on a double date. Yeah, you know.

Yeah.

Um, so I will watch this. I'm so excited.

I'll report back.

And I just— Let's Marry Harry.

What if we just married Harry?

I really should have been a panelist. Like, my qualified—

first of all, it's an amazing title.

My qualified lying characteristic is that I have a son named Harry. So like, of course I'm invested.

Do they get like proposed to at the end of this? Because I saw somebody doing a recap on Love Island and it was such a good call where it's like we're talking about Zach and Katie, like, not that boyfriend girlfriend. This girl who recaps, her name is Coach Jackie, she was like, we're used to watching TV where like people get married always. Like The Bachelor, you always get married. Love Is Blind, you get married. It's like, you won't even call someone your girlfriend. I think that's why people are having such a visceral reaction to it, because maybe in the real world this would be like a normal timeline. It's only been 6 weeks. We are used to people like meeting the families, getting married, or at least being proposed to by the end of our reality shows.

Yeah, let's get into the Love Island recap because I'm really of two minds on the Kaden-Zach thing. Now of course, like, when I see him being like, no, not boyfriend and girlfriend, exclusively dating, even though you've been exclusively dating and no one else is coming in, so you actually have no choice but to close—

the girl who recaps said saying that is like saying, oh, I'm not hungry and there's nothing in the fridge.

Like, that's what Ian said in his voiceover.

Did— oh, you're right, it was Ian, not my girl.

No, it's like just so obvious there's no other option.

A thousand percent.

Um, and then she like goes and tells Trinity that she got these crumbs and she said like, look, I have a cake, and Trinity He's like, no, you have—

you don't have a cake.

That's not a cake. So of course I'm like, he's not. And given the pattern of how he's acted this whole season, I see that and I'm like, hey, yeah. On the other hand, there is a world in which like, I can't make you my girlfriend. Like, if you take the word like boyfriend-girlfriend dating relationship very seriously, like, we've just been sitting around in our bathing suits all day. Like, I want to take you home, I want to get to know you, I want to date you actually, and then you could be my girlfriend. Like, I think that they— there's a chance that they just like take that term very seriously, and what's happening in the villa is not serious.

Well, so I think that yes, that's very reasonable. I just don't think he's given anyone any reason to give him grace.

I agree.

He went to the Hideaway and got home the next day, said we're still exploring, right? Like, he just hasn't felt like a good partner this whole time. So it's like, yeah, it's really sweet that you're right. Like, if those were true, if Bryce said it, yeah, of course. I just— I'm reluctant to give him any sort of— yeah, benefit of the doubt.

I agree with that. Um, also it's just a shame, like, Bryce is 30 years old and he put everyone in the villa on notice because, like, if the first couple had just closed off or, like, was exclusive, then that would be the standard. But they became boyfriend and girlfriend a week ago, so it's like anything less than that, it's like, what even is that?

And Kaita and Zach— Kaita specifically, her favorite thing is like, we've been in here since day 3, we've been in here for day 3. So she was mad that people didn't vote for her, like, to be in the top 3 because they've been together the long longest. And it's like, we've been together the longest and you're accepting less than everybody else.

Yeah.

So the episode started off like so badly that I actually was just like mad the whole time.

Oh my God, when the Hideaway opened, I had to AirPlay it from my phone, so I couldn't be on my phone. Oh, so I literally was locked into the—

oh, that's so terrible. Oh my God. Well, when they open the Hideaway and Trinity screams Melanie and Sincere, I, I just about died. I actually would rather see Anaya and Carl. Like, what on earth would— first of all, they might— Brittany and Trice—

Trinity and Bryce must have not been allowed because they had a date. They must have been—

there must be a reason why, because it was so obviously supposed to be them. So let's say— I actually don't even know because all these couples are bad, but it should have been Casey and TT. They just don't get treated— this is not an equal playing field. Like, the core 4 The Islanders that are in couples of OG Islanders, like, they get preferential treatment because, yeah, Casey and TT— Melanie and Sincere are barely back together, they didn't have sex. Casey and TT became boyfriend and girlfriend, like, they obviously should have been Hideaway.

Yeah, also, like, the fact that Sincere is getting Hideaway right now after movie night, like, and Kenzie's still fighting for her life when she literally committed, I'd say, with 10% of the crimes that Sincere did.

This literally further proving that, like, the women on this show are setting a bad example because Kenzie and Sincere technically committed the same crime, even though I think Sincere's was 100 times worse. Sincere was back in his relationship 2 days later. Kenzie is still over here fighting for her life. Honestly, I wish half the bitches in this villa had as much self-respect for themselves as Dylan does. Dylan has a little too much self-respect. He's trying to piss me off.

Like, yeah, these girls are just embarrassing. Let it go. I was ready finally to be done with him, and if I were her, I'd be done with him because like, what do you mean you're gonna make me feel like shit all the time?

So much apologizing. Like, give me a chance to redeem myself. I knew it was wrong. You either accept it or you don't. I wish Melanie would have some of that energy. It's like these girls are just embarrassing. Like, you accept nothing, and all they do is talk about how much their men love them. Oh, the villa's going to shake. Oh, my man's going to know I'm asleep, I can't leave the bed. Meanwhile, Zach, sincere, slept 2 hours late. Like, such bullshit. These girls are so embarrassing.

Yeah, they really are. Also, Dylan and Carla, I think like Dylan's trying to like have a Bryce Trinity moment.

A Zach Bryce. Yeah.

Yes, he's like really trying. He's really giving me the ick.

He has been accused of clip farming. Do you know what that is? Where you're like, um, you do like really extra gestures to like be made into a GIF, you know? Like movie night when he was eating the popcorn, he was like, like being a clip. And then somebody also saw when he was talking to someone, I think it was Sincere, he like looked, made sure— I guess the cameras move and they follow people around. He made deadass eye contact with the camera to make sure I was looking at him.

Oh my God, that's really embarrassing.

So right now I'm like real— and I also think last night's episode was very much much like edited to make us like Casey and TT, which I'm glad for. I did see somebody like put together a clip of like a bunch of weird things he has said that like really point to— even when he was saying that Casey, she's worthy to be my girl, it feels like Casey, uh, TT is really worthy of being my girl now. Like she's done a lot to prove to me. It's like, who the fuck do you think you are?

I didn't like how he said you're a slob.

Like, who are you? Yeah, but like I, I was getting myself— I was getting taken away by the edit. Like it was cute. I just went around, it's her, she's so cute. Yeah, she's so pretty.

She was so happy for her because she like likes him so much. She actually loves him, which I think it's fair that she loves him. Like, you know when you love someone and like— she's not gonna say to him, but like she's crying at the water park because she likes him so much and she's so happy. And then like to go home and have that be so validated, like, you are leapfrogging other couples because he wants you.

And that was actually a cute gesture.

Yeah. Oh, it was so—

it went on a little too long.

And like, they never told her what it was, so they're like, here's a picture, pots, come here. It's not like, we've set up a scavenger hunt for you. Yeah, if you want to find Casey, follow the map. Follow the map.

I was like, 'Pots.' Yeah, yeah, is that fine? It was at least thoughtful. Like, these girls— Melanie one time got breakfast in a chair.

It was at least thoughtful.

This was so romantic.

It was also weird that Zach helped out with it, and then Kaita was like, 'Do you know what's going on?' He's like, 'No, I really don't.' But like, you do. You just lied to your girlfriend's face. And then he whispered like, 'Is this weird?' I mean, I'm glad that they recognized the fact that it's weird timing, because otherwise I'd be like, 'They're so fake.' So yeah, you can be happy for someone someone else and also like feel a little bit weird. But why did he lie to her and say, I don't know what's going on?

Like, it's not like a big secret.

You're like a big liar. Like, it was about to be found out in 5 minutes, and instead—

like, speaking of liars, Sincere told Melanie that he didn't tell the guys anything. He said, I told them we did nothing. And he said to the guys, yeah, we did something, we did some stuff.

Oh, I didn't— I know, I actually felt like he didn't tell them anything, but he lied about what he said to Melanie.

He's like, I told the guys we did nothing. Like, no, you said you did something.

He didn't say I didn't tell them what we did? No, I told them nothing.

No, no, I told them we did nothing.

Not I told them nothing.

He's a liar.

Are you sure?

I want to go on to say I watched without my phone. He's like, I'm not a liar. And then I got like awkward.

Okay, because you are a liar, but I love you.

I hate them. I also did not— because I watch episodes early because they come on at 8:35— that I'm never up for the vote because I go to sleep right after. So I didn't vote, but I guess it was vote for your 4 favorite Islanders. Like, we're now trying to vote for the top 4, final 4 couples.

These are my final 4 couples: Casey and TT, of course.

Those are my winners.

Zach and Kada.

Oh wow, really?

Brittany and— that's my winner. Should have started with them, but I don't even think about them because they're just— they're so obvious.

Kenzie and Dylan.

Yeah, because Melanie and Sierra and Anaya and Carl cannot—

cannot—

there are— they're both going to be in the top 4 because that's like the—

I also think now people are going to vote less for Zach and Kada, like, so that could get Melanie or Anaya in.

They're already in. Like, this is who's going to be in the top 4, period. I just want to say Melanie and Sincere, uh, Melanie, Sincere, Brinety, Carl, and Anaya. And, um, this is a wild card.

Yeah, cuz it's not going to be Kenzie and Dylan.

No, no, no, it's either going to be Zach and Kada or who's the other couple?

Melanie and Sincere?

No, Casey and Tierra.

It's going to be Casey and TT. They got an edit, they want them in there. Also, the conversation with all the girls, the core 4 besides Kada, about Kada— I agree, like, yeah, Kada's acting weird. Like, you want us to be excited, you said, oh, look at this, and what is this? It's nothing. But like, them all 3 sitting behind her back, like, Anaya, the shit we could talk about you. Remember when you voted for Casey and he came— like, uh, Melanie, like, you two are in no fucking position to be talking about other people. And it was mean because like they're like toxic best friends, so much so to the point that like they leave out the other girls. And like, you're over here now talking about your best friend. I thought it was a really bad look for like Anaya, Trinity, and Melanie.

Yeah, at least for Trinity. Like, everything that she said to Kita is what she said to her face, you know. They're just like discussing the situation.

Sorry, like Trinity is in a position to judge because like, look, I got my man to commit to me. Yeah, but it's also like, it's like, Melanie, you can't even get your man to stop making out with bombshells.

I would take Trinity's advice, but just because Trinity's like says something doesn't mean we all have to do it. Echo it.

Like, no, the four of them are— she didn't make you her girlfriend.

Like and I— he should make her his girlfriend.

Uh-huh.

But it's just because, like, you say it doesn't mean that everybody has to do it that way too. And she's obviously happy and doesn't get— sense these things from him.

No, I think—

and I don't think it's a sit— I think we need to look up the—

I think she was more upset that with them saying it because she, like, she didn't think about it until they brought it up. Because, like, Zach is very manipulative. So it's like he tells her, this is so great, this is what we want, we're doing this and we're happy. She's like, yeah, we're happy. So she goes tell her friends, and it's kind of like a dose of reality. And she was like, oh wait, like, they're kind of right, but you're like messing up my vibe, so I'm going to be mad at you now instead of being mad at Zach.

I think also they were right— they're right to have concerns, cuz it's like he's giving her nothing. But calling it a situationship is not what it means and is offensive.

And it, it is factually incorrect. It's just him dragging his feet on commitment. It's not, uh— situationship is where you're still fucking like other people. And so like Kenzie having her back, even though like they've really not been a good friend to Kenzie— they totally ditched her. Like, she was one of the OG Islanders. I think they were all really close, and then the whole like Melanie Corbin thing.

No, she's only been interested in Kenzie like this whole time. Like she started to stray with like the Caleb and Corbin thing, just like doing God knows what.

Yeah, so I think that like, you know, Kaida getting support from like the one girl who like— it's like this random— yeah, meant a lot to her. But like, I'm so over these people. Like they're genuinely embarrassing.

Yeah, it's not a situationship, but like exclusively dating is just—

you having to come up with new words and phrases.

It's being in a relationship but not wanting to call it that because why, right?

You need to come up with a new thing when he—

it's not like you're getting— it's not like a proposal. So it's like, what's the worst thing that happens if we say boyfriend and girlfriend in here and we go home and it doesn't work out? What's up? Then we broke up.

Like, you're breaking up anyway even if you're not boyfriend-girlfriend.

That's the big deal.

When Casey was like, I'm gonna ask TT, and Zach was like, to be your girlfriend or exclusively dating? Like, that's not a phase.

That's not a part of the journey, especially when no one else is coming in here.

Oh man, he was pissing me off. I cannot wait for this show.

It's just funny because if Bryce wasn't there, like, being 30 years old, then everyone's big milestone is exclusive. Yeah, and Zach would look like a good guy. Zach fucked up his whole season when he told Kaita that he wanted to close off and then took it back after she made out with Caleb when he was the bombshell.

Also when he told her that he loved her and said he was joking. Also when he went to the hideaway, came back, and just wanted to reaffirm that they were still open to exploring other other people. It's like, yeah, you can still be ex-boyfriend, you don't have to close off just yet, but like, you're bringing it up, like, right, your dick is still inside of her. Yeah, he is actually fucking crazy.

Yeah, and then he wonders why like people don't like him.

Yeah, he's very unlikable. Even when he woke up without the girls and they were just remarking on how it's like less crazy to be like, you know, it's more peaceful. I knew what they were saying. He took it too far. He was like, has the sky always been that blue?

I know, now we just see him through that light, but I understood what he was saying.

I understood what they were all saying. We're not like rushing to work in a diner and make breakfast. Like, sure, he took it too far. Like, he's just— I really can't stand him.

I don't— I can stand him.

It's all because of namesake.

You think so?

Charlie?

Yeah, but Zach too. Oh yeah, I like him and Kaden. I, I, they— I think that they're a good couple. Like, I think he just is like commitment-averse. And but they're young too.

Like, they need to start casting older, more mature people. That's why Love Is Blind was so good. And when they went to casting 25 25-year-olds. Sorry, these people aren't getting engaged on TV.

Like, not even 25, like 22.

Like, bring me some 20. Look at Bryce, he's like the most well-adjusted. He's 30. Bring me 27 to 35. Yeah, they're not— people act like, like once you turn 26, you're like unattractive.

That's not who the show's for. So then you have to think of like—

it's true, like the Gen Z. And they—

I think that I'm watching a show, they have no issue that like, oh, they didn't close off soon enough, they're not taking the relationship seriously. They're like, go twerk at the challenge, right?

We're 21. You can't twerk, I guess. Yeah, well, that's the Sound of Mine advice from— that's the Sound of Mine recap for two millennial women watching the wrong show.

And the show is not wrong, we are watching—

we are wrong for it.

Yeah, yeah.

All right, well, we'll see you on the recap on Thursday. Finally we get tonight off. What should I do?

I'm dreading— I'm dreading family episodes.

Same.

I'm dreading the baby episode.

Oh, I forgot.

I actually don't think I can watch it.

Maybe we'll just come back for the fifth and final. I'm not gonna watch the baby episode.

Like, The crying, it's like— it's offensive to us as mothers. It's triggering. Yeah. Um, and the family episode, like, I don't really like you guys, let alone your families.

Oh my God, Melanie talking about her mother in the Hideaway. First of all, that's weird. And her saying, my mom would forgive you, it's like, well, no wonder you are the way that you are. Like, what are you even talking about? If I'm her mom, I'm so mad. Like, now you're telling everyone I'm weak?

Yeah.

What the fuck? Like, seriously, get these people off my screen. I never want to see them again. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast and Money Morning Show, where we deliver the fast stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday. And you YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a big old thumbs up. We're also available as podcast anywhere podcasts can be found, so that's Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. Wherever you listen to podcasts, find us, leave us a 5-star review about how beautiful, stunning, and wickedly talented we are. Hope you guys have an amazing day, and we'll see you tomorrow.

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