Transcript of Canadian PM Mark Carney Sends Blistering Message to Trump

Prime Minister Carney of Canada continues to go for the kill shot. This is Donald Trump's worst nightmare. Just 24 hours after Prime Minister Carney met with his counterparts at the European Union and European Council, announcing that Canada would become an associate member of the European Union, he sat down for a series of interviews where he laid out his new thesis of the global world order, where the mid-powers unite and get stronger. The countries with shared values, Canada and the European Union, align, have free trade, and grow together while the Trump regime pushes the United States further into weakness and isolation. And Prime Minister Carney showing exactly what it looks like to be the new leader of the free world. Let me show you what went down as Prime Minister Carney just put the dagger into Donald Trump during these interviews. Prime Minister Carney. Carney was asked, is there anything that you toned down with your announcement, uh, with this associate membership in the European Union? And Prime Minister Carney says, I never tone it down. That's absolute madness. You don't behave that way. You stand up, you're direct, you go elbows up and you punch back.

Watch what Prime Minister Carney said. Let's play this clip.

Did you change any of the way in which you spoke about the EU-Canada summit anything that you did here this week with a view to what Donald Trump might say about it?

No, absolutely not. That way lies madness. And I'd be absolutely clear about that. We do— I speak for Canada. I speak in Canada's interest. I can't remember if I'm trying to manage my words so that if it doesn't offend this country there or that country there. It's far better just to be absolutely clear what we're doing. This is a very positive association, the bilateral relationship between Canada and Europe, the tightest one, to go back to where we started, the tightest one that exists, and a very positive alliance. So that's— and it's much better, and it's very much the mood of the country, of Canadians. Canadians want to build. Canadians want to move forward. Canadians want to do things. They want to solve problems. They don't want to react to things. They don't want to break things down. They don't want to— it's— we have challenges, there's no question, but people are in a good place. They want to come together. They want to build. And so we're not adjusting for other— what the US might think. What China might think, what, uh, what certainly, uh, what Russia, uh, might think.

Next up, Prime Minister Carney is asked, uh, so at this point, if the Trump regime continues to just threaten and harass, are you going to wait this out or are you going to submit and try to do some deal with the Trump regime? He's like, we already had a deal. Okay. It's called CUSMA, the Canadian United States Mexico Agreement, or in the US, USMCA, whatever you want to call it, that the Trump regime is violating. And Prime Minister Carney says, We will not do a bad deal. No deal is better than a bad deal. And if we have to wait it out, we'll wait it out. It'll be bad for the United States. They're going to be the ones missing out while we're out here diversifying our trade relationships. Watch what Prime Minister Carney says here. Play this clip.

So another way of asking it would be you're willing to wait for the next US president if that's what it takes.

Well, we'll have to, if, if that's what it takes. Yeah. And, you know, and American families, American businesses will also lose out because of that. They're not winners in this circumstance.

Now, Prime Minister Carney was sitting in Montreal. That's where this announcement of the associate membership with the European Union took place. Recall our reporting a few months back when Prime Minister Carney was the guest of honor in Yerevan, Armenia, at the European Council meeting, the first time a non-European country was invited to speak and to actually have a leadership role over there. That then led to this associate membership status. And as I said, there's a new global order forming, folks, and the United States is more deeply isolated and weaker than before. And the Trump regime thought that this bullying of Canada and Europe was just going to result in them capitulating. No, Donald, these places, especially like Canada, they think in terms of nations, national pride. Prime Minister Carney's not trying to enrich himself. He's not like you and your fricking disgusting piece of trash Epstein class. He's fighting for the Canadian people, elbows up. Prime Minister Carney here in Montreal was asked about the rupture with the United States. And he goes, look, the problem was we were too dependent on the United States. That was the post-World War II architecture. We've learned our lesson.

So thus we are diversifying our relationships. That's what you're seeing here. Play this clip.

We were overdependent on the United States. Too closely connected to the United States, and we need to build our strength here at home and diversify and deepen our partnerships with like-minded countries internationally. Now, when we look around the world, we see our values most aligned with those of the European Union, and in fact, we're very complementary in what our strengths are, and that's why the partnership is moving. Now, it's very hard to, quote, replace, certainly in the short term, the scale of the relationship with the United States. But again, what this partnership does, this association between Canada and the European Union does for both of us, is it makes us both more independent, more resilient, more prosperous, better able to live so our citizens can live their lives as they choose and not have them influenced by a foreign technology company, uh, or a decision in some foreign capital.

Prime Minister Carney then talks about sovereignty, and to be sovereign is not to be alone. And the US is recognizing that right now. When the Trump regime thought that it could go it alone and start a trade war against China, well, China made a very simple move. Okay, you're gonna put 150% tariffs on us. Guess what? We're going to shut down critical minerals. What happened? The United States economy plummeted and Donald Trump tacoed and caved right away and said, oops, uh, we don't wanna do that anymore. We're, uh, we're sorry about that. Or look at Donald Trump going it alone with the Netanyahu regime in Iran. No allies, no planning, no consultation. And then Donald Trump's like, why doesn't anybody wanna help me? Why is— cuz you went into an unlawful catastrophic war, you freaking warmonger sex predator. Here, play this clip.

I've yet to find a country that, uh, in a world that's more dangerous and divided, does— that doesn't want to be more sovereign, more independent, better able to withstand shocks. You quickly learn, if you haven't figured it out yet, if you're in one of these roles, that to be sovereign is not to be alone, that you need like-minded partners. Nobody is self-sufficient. The United States is not self-sufficient. The United States discovered that when China made restrictions on critical minerals. There's lots of other areas where the United States relies on other countries for certain critical aspects.

More from Prime Minister Carney over here when he is asked about, you know, talk to us about whether, you know, you, what your views are about the United States policies regarding Russia. Here, play this clip.

There has been some variance in terms of US actions with respect to restrictions on, you know, sanctions on Russia, provision of defensive capabilities to Ukraine. That's been unhelpful. I don't think there's been a wavering of resolve of other members to clear— There has not been a wavering of resolve. If anything, there's been a hardening of resolve of members of the Coalition of the Willing, Canada included. The atrocities continue. Ballistic missiles being fired into the equivalent of Old Montreal in Kyiv. Russia lost another 35,000-plus soldiers in the last month. It's a pointless slaughter. that's going on. So the resolve continues.

More from Prime Minister Carney here about the associate membership status. Let's play it.

Well, I think the advantage of what we're doing is that we're— a few things are absolutely clear irrespective of the exact terminology that's used. President von der Leyen uses associated membership. We use associated membership. What does that mean? It means the closest possible partnership without being a full member of the European Union because Canada is not in Europe geographically and therefore cannot have accession. But what does that mean, what I just said? Well, we have some very specific examples that we already either have done or we're negotiating towards. We have one of the most comprehensive free trade agreement, so-called CETA, that exists. It's one of the most successful free trade agreements in the world. Working together on research cooperation, there's various major European and Canadian facilities, but I'll use Horizon Europe as an example of that. Bringing together our universities, our students through Erasmus Plus. Everyone, I think, who watches this would be familiar with that. Digital trade, seamless trade, they're cooperating. And this is a crucial point, and then I'll hand back to you, is there are a series of areas in this tougher world where certain countries, certain companies are using their technology as leverage to try to influence, whether it's Germany, Canada, European member states, other countries around the world.

by combining in areas such as space technologies, artificial intelligence, we— critical minerals would be a third example— we become more sovereign, we become more independent. And that is a big motivation, both in terms of our closer association, Canada and the European Union, but also this broader approach of finding like-minded partners in the alliance.

More from Prime Minister Carney over here about the middle powers. Earlier this year, you warned if the middle powers are not at the table, table, they're on the menu. Talk to us about the middle powers. Play this clip.

The presidents of the US, China, and Russia are preparing to meet next month. Early this year, you warned if the middle powers are not at the table, they are on the menu. Are Canada and Europe on the menu?

Uh, no, we're not. Um, and part of— and, and to be clear, I wouldn't describe the European Union as a middle power. I would describe Canada as a middle power. And I think what's interesting about today is this initiative to have an alliance for the future. Canada and the European Union would be at the nucleus of this. And if I can use a technical term, sort of variable geometry and approach, different countries coming together to address different issues. We've seen it in Coalition of the Willing for Ukraine. We'll see it in certain aspects of climate and others. And that shows that the European Union, Canada, other middle powers, in this case again making the distinction between the two, can set the table and choose the menu.

More from Prime Minister Carney over here about— well, he was asked what's the best way to deal with Trump. Let's play this clip.

Prime Minister, what's the best way to deal with Donald Trump?

Well, the best way to deal— I would say this is a general point, but it's even more so with President Trump, which is to be direct, to be clear, to be absolutely clear about what your bottom lines are. Show respect, obviously, but continue to bring the conversation, the negotiations back to the core issues. It doesn't mean, of course, that you'll necessarily agree with that, but having those clear lines will in my experience, at least, it channels the, uh, the outcomes in a, in a narrower way.

Prime Minister Carney then is asked, so Trump said he could see closer Canada-EU ties as a hostile act against Canada. And Carney's like, he sees everything as a hostile act. Like, you can't appease this guy. So he thinks this is a hostile act, that's a hostile act. Here, play this clip.

President Donald Trump already said that he could see closer ties between Canada and the EU as a hostile act. Are you taking the risk of new tariffs?

No, I mean, we've been living with this for some time and there have been many justifications for trade action against Canada that the United States has had. Our view is all of them unjustified under our trade agreement. But it's important, and your question is an important one in the following respect. What is this about? This is a positive association, a positive partnership, and we're creating a positive alliance for other countries to help solve global problems, face up to global challenges, whether it's climate change, whether it's protecting freedom, democracy in Ukraine, the right standards around artificial intelligence and its applications. So It's not against somebody. It's for. It's a positive act, not a—

But what signal does it send to China and the US?

That we're independent, that we're our own actors. And it's not— again, it's not designed to send a signal. But if I were to interpret what's happening is that certainly Canada, European Union, clearly we have agency. We have values, we have a positive agenda, we're moving forward.

Prime Minister Carney then strikes back at Donald Trump's claim that Canada was engaged in election meddling. Play this clip.

I wanted to ask you about some of the comments that have come from the US Ambassador Pete Hoekstra and others who've been accusing Canada of election meddling ahead of the midterms. I mean, are you tired, to borrow an expression, of the US poking the bear?

Well, not a bear. Am I the bear in this metaphor?

Canada's the bear.

Canada's the bear. I think Canadians are tired of it. I think that's very clear.

Have you raised it with Trump?

Raised

the fact that, you know, that these accusations keep flying?

I think that might encourage more. Look, we call out— we call out the issue. I call out specific issues with the United States. There are a wide range of, wide range of them, unfortunately.

Prime Minister Carney says what his message would be for Putin, whereas Donald Trump's like, Putin, you wanna do deals with us? Here's what Carney says. Play this clip.

And you've said that if you see Vladimir Putin, you will tell him to, to get out of Ukraine, similar to one of your predecessors, Stephen Harper. But do you, do you plan to seek a meeting with Putin while there?

No, I don't. But I mean, that's my message to him. My message to him would be we're gonna tighten sanctions, get outta Ukraine, stop your war crimes.

Then Prime Minister Carney talks about why it's critical that Canada's not dependent on Starlink and Starshield. Play this clip.

But you alluded to what Elon Musk did with Starlink and Starshield. That was a huge problem for Ukraine on the battlefield. It took days to resolve. It still has exposed the extent to which Ukraine is vulnerable. And there's nothing as far as I can tell, that Canada, that Europe can do to replace that capability now?

Well, I mean, instantaneously you can't.

How long would it take?

It takes— look, our LEO constellation will be operable in 2028. Europe's a few years later, I'll say roughly. We can help bridge to Europe's constellation and/or we can help scale and pool those 2 constellations. Those are the types of things you can do if you're deliberate about them and focus on them and accelerate. And that's exactly what we're doing. So there are risks. Now, we are not— we have not hooked our dependencies to that system, our defenses to that system, nor would we, given the track record.

And more from Prime Minister Carney over here, talking about his very strange relationship with Trump. Let's play.

relations, or was it just your personal relations?

Did you—

I don't want to read too much into it.

Did you send him something back?

I didn't, actually. I said thank you. I said thank you. But yeah, no, I haven't had occasion to put on the shirts because we don't have a mutually advantageous trade deal. I look forward to the day that I am wearing the Brooks Brothers shirt, as you say. I'm not going to wear all 4 at once. But they are— yeah, they're sitting in my closet.

What's the last gift you gave the president?

Can't remember. Come on, Nick.

Well, there was an Olympic hockey bet. I heard some sort of gentleman's wager.

No, there wasn't a bet. We didn't bet on the hockey. We talked about it and we talked about the World Series as it was going through. I am trying to remember. I know what I gave, which was For the 250th anniversary of the United States, we did a series of things. As Canada, we lit up— this was to the American people, President included— we lit up various bridges, cross-border bridges with the American flag. Nice touch, I thought. We sent 250 maple trees to be planted across border states, and then we had some commemorative coins. that were made which had on them 2 sides. One was the American eagle because, as you know, you know, the American— there's lots of American eagles in Canada, bald eagles in Canada as well, of course, as being the symbol of the United States. And then on the other side, his favorite monarch who happens to be King of Canada as well as the United States, Prince— King Charles, I should say. King Charles. Yeah.