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All right, we did it, everyone. We made it to Friday. Let's give it up for the weekend, everybody.

Yes.

All right.

All right. There we go. Look at this crew right here. I don't know if this group's worked together yet. We got Roy, Tony, Amin, Chris, and of course, Dave Dameshek. Hello, Dave, back out on the West Coast. Good to see you.

That's right. I'm right now 3 hours behind all of you. And what's more, I woke up in the middle of the night. I'm playing hurt here. This is my Jordan flu game. I don't know what the hell happened to me. I wake up in the middle of the night and my toe is— I'm in excruciating pain. And then I have to limp down the stairs to do this show with you people today. And I don't know what the hell happened. I've reached an age now where I just randomly— body parts just hurt real bad. But anyway, Good to be with you.

Now, it's fairly common to wake up, especially at our age, you wake up and you got the stiff neck. All right. You sleep kind of weird. You sleep wrong. But the toe, the hurt big toe, like the big toe injury. What could have possibly happened?

Exactly. That's my question. I'm mystified myself, baby.

I once woke up with a rib contusion that lasted for like 3 or 4 days. I don't know what I did in bed, but it just, it just happens. Yes, there is an age where you can hurt yourself sleeping, and it's not even because I was thrashing violently or anything. I don't know. I just don't know.

Are you a thrasher?

Not really.

I am.

You thrash?

Yeah.

How does, uh, how does, how does your wife feel about that?

Were you gonna call her White Tamara? You call her White Tamara?

Whatever.

She, she does not like— matter of fact, a few nights ago, she was so mean to me in the middle of the night. A few nights ago, She— I'm lying, I'm sleeping peacefully, I'm enjoying my sleep, and all of a sudden she shoves me in my chest and just goes, not even like, you know, like rocking me, you know, just, "Move!" That— it wakes me up out of a dead sleep, and I look around, I'm like, "So mean!" And then I roll over to the other side. She said I was taking up too much space in the bed, which I don't necessarily agree with. Now granted, I hug throughout the night. I hug a huge pillow. Hahaha! Why is that so funny?

What, are you pregnant?

A body pillow.

Yeah, I hug a huge—

That's a great visual.

Yes, I do. I have a body pillow. Nobody else does that?

No, pregnant women do that.

Nightly threesome in the Zaslo-mance.

So she— that also bothers her because she claims that it that as a result I take up so much space in the bed. I, I hug a huge body pillow all throughout the night. Whatever. What am I supposed to do with my arm? Well, I'm a side sleeper. What am I supposed to do with my arm?

How huge are you talking?

Uh, like, like, it—

like length of the bed? Like full length of the bed?

Why, why, why would it be the length of the bed?

So you can put your feet—

does it have a name? Like Hank's, Hank's, uh, ball, you know, Wilson and all of that. Like it has a personification. Have you gone so far as to put a face on this pillow? Does it have some sort of character to it?

Wilson also.

Coincidentally.

How big is the pillow? It's really thick and it probably goes from, you know, like my neck to, I don't know, like my knees.

I don't like this.

Okay. So not as long as I thought.

Does your wife like it, Zazz? She hates it.

I imagine so.

Whatever. She was mean though. Just shoves me in the middle of the night.

Move over.

You tell her. What the hell?

That's because all the affection is going into that pillow instead of her. I've proposed to my wife and she has stiff-armed this idea and I know it's not the most romantic, But I kind of like the way Lucy and Desi did it. I don't think it's the end of the world. And in fact, the, the two separate single beds, right? Yeah, but I, I would propose because I snore and everything, and I think that's a lot to put up with. If the, if the shoe were on the other foot, you know, I'd be out. I'd, I, I'd move on. Um, but somehow she tolerates it. But yeah, separate rooms, is that the end of the world for lovers?

I know couples, uh, who do that.

Why stop there? Why don't do separate residences? And then you can still preserve the magic of like a knock-in.

Hey, what's going on?

Oh man, it's so great to have you over. And then, is it okay if I spend the night? Like, yeah. And then you know it's on. That's great. I think a lot more marriages would last longer if people did not live together.

My grandparents slept in the same room but had single beds.

Mine too.

Wild Bill Cody and Nana Dookie, right?

Mine too. They slept in the same room but had had single twin beds that were separate, which when I slept over, like, you know, we pushed together when I was a little kid.

My wife and I have recently sleep divorced. She's been sleeping in our guest room upstairs. It's for— because I snore.

My wife's been threatening the sleep divorce for a long time.

My wife is loving it.

She gave up the master bedroom.

Yeah, I mean, her clothes are still in there, and we will sleep together like on vacation and stuff. We're not getting separate hotel rooms.

Why weren't you the one who had to go to the guest room and she stayed in the master bedroom?

That's a great question.

You won that one.

Yeah, I did kind of win it.

Wow.

You know about that lev?

He's got that hand.

He's got that lev. My way.

They always do it in movies. Have you ever been required to go and sleep on the couch? That's always the TV movie.

You're right. That's, that's never—

Punishment.

No, that's— you're right. That is the TV movie punishment. I told you I'm in the middle of a rewatch of Mad Men right now, and I'm at the point where Don and Betty are about to get divorced and Don slept on the couch. And it's like, I, I've never been banished to the couch.

If I was sleeping, if I'm sleeping on the couch, I'm drunk.

Now, is that because you can't make your way upstairs?

I'll just like—

because the snoring is extra violent when you're drunk.

Every once in a while I'll get home and it's like, oh, let me lay on the couch and watch a show, fall asleep.

And then you wake up at like 2 a.m., clothes and everything, and just get into bed.

If I got banished to the couch, guess what? I'm getting recruited back in the middle of the night.

Wow.

Look, how about that?

Getting that tap like, hey, How about that? Yeah.

Wow. I almost got into a car accident on the highway this morning. Not my fault. Almost got into an accident again. Not my fault. Is what it is. I'm an excellent driver. I'm very good at avoiding accidents. But Chris, you had an incident, right?

I witnessed disgusting behavior on the highway this morning. And before I tell the story—

was it Zazz?

It was not Zazz. Would anyone like to guess of just a hypothetical? What could I have seen that I would describe as disgusting behavior?

Someone, someone mooned you in the backseat of the car.

I did.

Not get mooned.

Depending on who did it.

Yeah, not bad.

Uh, I'm gonna guess, I'm gonna guess someone was eating while driving.

Nope, not eating while driving. Someone before the show suggested someone was peeing out the window. That's a bit extreme. It's actually not as bad as that would have been.

Somebody was going to take an off-ramp, flew off the on the off-ramp, and then landed in front of your car.

Yeah, somebody littered.

Roy, you nailed it. Hey, but not just litter, not just a standard littering. This was— I'm driving behind a car, all of a sudden I see a Publix bag fly out the window and it comes like at my windshield. And I'm just like, that's terrible to do, but I don't think that much of it. I'm like, maybe I'll see that once quarterly. I'll see somebody do something like that. Empty bag or empty bag, it just flies out.

Sometimes the wind grabs it, you know what I mean?

It kind of went right towards my—

sometimes the wind grabs it. Exactly right.

So then I'm like, alright, that's just— I don't like this person, but it's— I'm not blown away by that yet. And then I keep driving. Less than 30 seconds later, a soda, like a— like from a fountain drink that you would get at like Publix or any place with a lid on it, just tossed out. The same car, the same window.

With soda?

I mean, yeah, like it hits the ground and you see some liquid come out of it.

What an asshole.

And I'm just like, what wor—

so what did I do?

And that was it.

So what do I do?

I speed up.

Yeah, damn right.

I get next to them and I just stare. I admonish them with my look. I'm shaking my— they have very tinted windows, so I don't have confirmation that they saw me, but in my mind they did. And I did my part of aggressively shaking my head at them.

Hey, look, this is what I would do. I would have pulled up, I would roll down my window, I would honk the horn, and then if you have children listening to this right now, earmuffs, I was like, hey, fuckface. You got— you have to address them as Fuckface.

Have you ever rolled down the window and addressed someone as fuckface?

Yes.

Really?

On the highway though, like, I don't think they're gonna hear me. Their window's not down, so I'm really just mouthing it.

Yeah, they see you. That's all it takes, that look right there. I wonder what he said. Is he wishing me a happy birthday?

But I was just blown away by that, like, back to back, just on the highway. And it wasn't like— because we were in the left lane, it wasn't like they— not that this would make it better, you throw it out the driver's side, that way it's like getting to the side of the road. No, no, no, this was out the passenger side to the middle of the highway, both of them. And I'm just like, you don't give a fuck.

To Chris's point, you always want to see the face of the culprit though. Yeah, you always do. You can't let them go by without you seeing exactly who did it. Somebody cuts you off, somebody makes a stupid move in traffic, you're like, I got to go see who that person is.

And then have some sort of either racist or sexist or homophobic thing.

Exactly right, thank you.

Of course, it's one of those.

Now, is this because you're anti-litter or it was dangerous?

Oh no, this is just gross behavior. Like, it didn't— I didn't affect my— like, I didn't have to swallow any litter.

I don't like litter.

I try very hard not to ever litter.

And I'm seeing people in the chat here saying Chris looks like he'd be a litterer. I am not a litterer.

You do.

And maybe I do look like I'd be one. It was one of the things my dad, from a very early age, was a— he would shit more than anything when I was younger. It's like he hated littering. So he instilled that in me early. I am an anti-litterer. I have already admonished my daughter. For times where I'm like, are you leaving that? No, that's littering.

So you're like the Japanese fans at the World Cup where after the game, I have a plastic bag and they start picking up their own trash.

I love that. Now, now, littering, okay, where do we draw the line then on littering? Because if you are— if you're chewing gum, is spitting it out into the bushes littering?

Yes, it is. Yeah, no, no, I'm not—

animals can eat that.

Yeah, and also, so you give them a nice treat.

That's a play on for me.

Witty eats every single piece of gum he's ever had. He's still living. He's fine.

Wait, what?

I missed the beginning.

Witty has chewed— Oh, you're saying he swallows it.

He eats every single piece of gum he's ever had.

That is so foul.

Guy's still around kicking. You're gonna tell me a squirrel's gonna eat something, he's gonna die?

Come on.

Dave, when's the last time you were chewing gum and you swallowed it?

Not since childhood. I was told it resides within you for decades on end. It's sort of like getting sucked into, you know, the way Boba Fett met his death. You know, he fell into the Sarlacc pit and was slowly digested over 1,000 years, which is, I've said before and we'll say again, that sounds a lot worse than it probably is. Because once you're in the sarlacc pit like Boba Fett was, you know, you get digested, you're probably dead after about 18 hours, right? Like, so like getting digested over the next 1,000 years is no matter to you. You've already left your mortal coil. But anyway, I don't want to get distracted.

By the way, YouTube chat, it's not litter. What I did in the stairwell months back putting the Starbucks cup there, it's inside a stairwell. That is not littering.

Okay, now you've lost me.

So there was—

inside it's not littering, it's just leaving trash out.

Okay, so there was a time where we have a specific stairwell in the back that we go out to get to the parking garage, and there's a certain person here that always gets a certain cup from a certain establishment.

What does their name rhyme with?

Uh, Wiss.

Briss.

And this peach—

I'm gonna speed this up. It was raining one day, I was going down the stairwell, I had my cup in my hand, I was going to my car, it was raining. I'm like, you know what, I don't want to walk out there in the rain with a cup. So I left my cup on the stairwell. Did I leave it there a couple of days? Yes, but it's not littering.

It was there for months.

It started growing a whole new civilization and like they developed, they learned how to like interstellar travel and stuff.

At that point I was just interested.

They had the combustible engine.

Museums and parks.

It was crazy.

Scientists, doctors.

I don't want to get up on Mount Pious about this. I don't, you know, I hail Chris because I too like to roll down a window. I'm not as aggressive as Ameen is. I go champ. Hey champ, you know another grownup is now gonna have to come and clean up your mess that you just made. Champ, I think, is nice and demeaning without giving away my emotion to him. Means is more aggressive, and now the guy you're talking to has already won in this back and forth.

It's funny, Dave, because I don't usually reach that level. Usually my move is to smile and wave, to be extra nice because it's so condescending.

I like champ though. That's a nice one.

That's a great condescension. But if you're on the highway and someone— my thing is this, I'm not even so much about, hey, littering is bad. It's like, why did you have to do it now? Yeah, what are you going to go pick up your mom? It's like this place is a pigsty. You're like, I got to get this clean. Like, just wait until you stop or you go somewhere, then litter at a safe, like, speed.

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I'm curious, you know, the striking element of Chris's story is that there was a sequence to it. One garbage, and then several seconds later, more garbage strewn, a line you could follow to catch this criminal. Have, have any of you— Zaz specifically— have you ever made your love in such a way that you come in the door and then, like in the movies— again, that's a, that's a big thing you see, is the clothes strewn all the way from the first floor up the staircase, all the way. Have you ever had an experience like that where after, after that post-coitus, you have to go and retrieve your clothing, or you sweep everything off the table to do it.

Oh, that one. Yeah, you ever try to do that one? I see the clothes one, Dave, doesn't happen because it—

it—

in the movies it's like you're kissing and they're like, they're still moving.

Like, I can't stop kissing while I take off my pants.

It's not— it's not realistic. But the clear off the table one, because it's so dramatic and it's meant to like impress upon the other.

Like an office desk. We can come to my office.

Yeah, we're about to do this. And like, oh, so, so, so I tried it and it's like, what happened?

His office.

I tried it.

It was not office, like it was my desk, my desk at home. But like, I tried it, but it was just like, it wasn't a clean sweep. It killed the mood because it wasn't a clean sweep. It was like things came off like 3 or 4 at a time.

Shit's gonna break.

And then I did move it, and then I started like sweeping back and forth, and then like When— all right, now it's clear. I looked around at the ground everywhere, there's just debris, and I'm like, goddamn, I gotta have to clean this up. Concentrate.

I'm a more vigorous lovemaker than you, apparently. I mean, and, uh, I'm not surprised to hear that. I do draw the line at breaking stuff. Often movie characters will, when they clear off a table, they'll throw away an entire meal and it'll crash on the floor. They'll rip a shirt open. That's where I would be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, how far are we going? Let's settle down here. There's no reason to destroy property here while we're at this. I though also have had such an experience. In fact, post-coitus, I once said, a woman once said to me like, I can't find my underpants or something to that effect. And I said, oh, they're under the couch with your dignity.

Cold-blooded.

Why would you do that?

You, sir, are a cur. Anyone ever do this?

You gave damage.

What are you doing? Come on. Well, what led you to this?

Ugh.

Are you guys, uh, you guys ever do the smoke after the post-coitus smoke? Because that's the one from the movies that I was like, oh, that looks so cool.

I told you I'm watching Mad Men, man. After every time Don Draper has sex with someone, he and his lady friend, they immediately roll over and they light up a cig. But is that, is that just about being smokers, or is that something of himself?

That's just Don Draper laying there in the bed. Picking Heath Graves up.

I got the chest hair out and everything, and I'm just lighting up.

And then you light up one for the body pillow. There you go, buddy.

So tonight I am— I'm flying to Minneapolis tonight. I'm flying to Minneapolis tonight because I'm going to SummerSlam this weekend. I'm very, very excited, but I got annoyed yesterday with my flight tonight. Because I'm like the last flight out of Miami Airport. It's a 9:30 PM flight we're taking to Minneapolis. And I'm like, so I'm gonna leave the house at like 7:30. By 7:30 PM, I don't know about you guys, at 7:30 PM I'm in like, this is shutdown mode in the Zaslo mansion. This is relax time. I'm sitting on the couch, the Zaslo mansion family room couch, very uncomfortable couch, but I'm sitting on the couch I, I'm in my underwear, I got pants off, you know, I got my TV show on or whatever, and it's just relaxed time. And now tonight it's gonna be, all right, let's get all of our stuff together and let's, let's do this thing where we go to the airport and the flight's not taking off until 9:30 PM. I found myself annoyed yesterday, like, why did I pick this time of flight?

Now, Zazz, I think you're off on that. A nice little night flight. Amin takes a lot of them, red eyes. They're nice. The dark— it's always dark. It's never hot, because sometimes when you're on the tarmac in Miami, it's like 3 PM, it's 1,000 degrees. Like, that's brutal.

And the flight attendants and the captain have to tell people, shut your damn window shades so that we can keep this plane cool.

I want to see the tarmac! I want to see the planes!

I like to look out, see what's what.

Nah, man, look, let me tell you right now, I know people like, what if I— what if I've never been on a plane? I'm telling you right now, you take a peek, you look outside, It's basically that for the entire time. There's not a lot of scenes. It's just either clouds if you're flying, or just grass or tarmac.

I like to get a feel for how many planes are ahead of us here. What do we got here? Let me see here. I see— I can only see one way down there. By my math, there's like 3, because you can't see in front of you. You're only like— you're doing the math of like, I see a wing, kind of. All right, there's 3. And then you tell people around you, you're like, we're 3 in the hole here.

So 9:45 flight, it's a good time. You're going westward, so you gain an hour back.

West?

Aren't I going north?

No, central time. West though, central time.

Again, I don't know where anything is.

You're gaining an hour.

I'm on the plane, just take me there.

Yeah, so when you land—

well, no, when I'm saying when you take off, it's going to be 8:30 over there.

8:30 over there. Yeah, so however long that flight is, it's almost 4 hours. So you'll get there around 12:30.

I know, but that's like 1:30 my time, you know. No, no, you can't, you can't You can't do my time.

It's their time now. You're on their time.

I'm out of the Lord's time zone.

So now, now you have to just accept and embrace. Embrace. Okay, man, it's, it's just 12:30. You get to the hotel, say like 1, 1:15. Bars shut down, I think, around 2 or 3.

All right, I'm with my 14-year-old. All right, we're not going bar hopping.

Whose fault is that?

I don't know.

I just—

I'm landing really late. It feels like a pain in the ass.

I'm with you, Zazz. I think a good rule, a good life rule for the youngsters out there is I thought I was beat in life when I got outta college. I got a bartending gig in Chicago and I thought, oh, this is the greatest. You, you can wake up as late as you want. You get to go 10 bar. That's the wrong way to think about things because all you do all day is just think about like 7.5 more hours till I have to be at work. I'm with you on this flight. It's no good. Do it first thing of the day. Get to the airport as early as possible. Get the, ugly travel behind you.

Don't listen to this amateur. Early morning flights, you know who that is the domain of? All the rookies. You get to the airport, it's like, when do I still take my shoes?

Can I bring this gallon of— and where's my flight?

All the people who never travel travel on the first.

I want maximum time at my destination.

It's such a rookie hour at the airport. It drives me nuts.

I, I think you're wrong.

I feel like the people who understand travel go the first flight.

Buddy, I travel every goddamn week. I do this all the time. I've done the night ones, I've done the day ones, I've done the morning ones, and I'm telling you right now, rookie time is the early morning pre-8 AM flights.

Rookies logic dictates that the first flight is the least likely to get delayed, correct?

That's what people say.

That is like, oh, the first one's a little late. Push back.

That's true. That's— I'm not, I'm not going to debate that.

That's why, that's why people travel earlier.

But that's why that, that one little piece, you know, like sometimes there's a piece of true information and then people hang on to it and make it their entire identity. That's what the early morning flight is. Every rookie travels like, oh, because the delays weren't gonna happen.

I'll shut up.

Get out of my way. They should have like, I don't know, take my shoes off here. Oh God, the questions like, what do you mean? This is my grandma's perfume bottle.

I can't give it up. Like, go check it in.

But like, take my watch off.

I don't want to pay the baggage fees.

How do I get TSA Pre?

Oh my God.

What's this clear thing?

I mean, clear out of my way. Goddamn it.

Ameen is one of these assholes who then I can glean from his remarks here is one of these assholes who at the start of the red, the red-eye declares like all lights off. Everybody must follow his way. Or it's the highway, right? I assume you just anticipate complete blackness in the cabin, right? I mean, like, I don't fall asleep at night on an airplane, so I have to sit awake and I feel like a heel because my light's on because I'm reading. What the hell else am I going to do?

No, Dave, see, your light's on again.

What am I going to do?

Close your eyes.

You're such a rookie. You're like, I can't sleep on flights. Guess who can? The guy who fell asleep in a 4DX movie watching Mortal Kombat 2. That's the guy who can sleep on flights. I fall asleep before we even push back from the gate. Matter of fact, about 2 weeks ago I was on a flight— or to me, last week I was on a flight that got so delayed that I fell asleep, woke up, looked outside, saw tarmac, thought, oh, we're here already.

Left yet?

We had never left.

Oh, that's brutal.

It is brutal, but it, but it is testament to my ability to sleep. At any point.

That's brutal.

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So Chris, we know that NFL training camps are all underway. It's all happening. And that includes what I feel like is the least hyped up Miami Dolphins training camp of my lifetime. Time. I, I'm, you know, normally you get all the, the advertising or, you know, to come out to Dolphins camp, you know, bring the kids that I've seen none of that. I mean, maybe that's just me, maybe I'm not in touch there right now, but I feel like there's no hype around this Miami Dolphins training camp.

You're not feeling that new coach, new regime energy?

That's another example where normally you feel like, okay, this is exciting stuff. I don't know, to me this is the least hyped up Miami Dolphins training camp of my lifetime. But what I am starting to hear now coming out of Dolphins training camp is everyone look, they're on this Jeff Haffley's tip. Everyone loves Haffley. All right, and so yesterday, how about this, you know, sometimes though, well, not sometimes, a lot of times they do the, the 7-on-7, you know, you, you don't wear pads and, and you do 7-on-7 drills. Well, Jeff Haffley He doesn't do 7-on-7 because football in the NFL is 11-on-11. Give this a listen.

And then the other big thing is this. I mean, we had officials there yesterday. I mean, the things that we can't have happen is you can't have pre-snap penalties and hurt yourself. There were examples yesterday which I brought up again when I talked to the team and I kind of bring it all together. It was 2nd and 10 and We hit a big play, but we jumped offsides. So like, what happens there? It's 3rd and 8 and the defense jumps offsides and now it's 3rd and 3. All those little things with the officials being there in 11-on-11 and they're throwing the flags will send the message of this is important. Like if they weren't there, we were just doing 7-on-7. I mean, we had a, we had a great play on defense yesterday. It was 3rd and 10 and our defensive end lined up offsides. That doesn't happen in 7-on-7, right? Like, all those things we have to get the rust off, and that's what training camp's all about.

Football guy.

So, I, like, it makes sense what he's saying, but at the same time, is everybody else stupid? Like, everybody else does 7-on-7. Are the other coaches seeing, they're like, yeah, why didn't I think of that? You know, so that's, again, it makes sense to me, but is he inventing, like, he's not inventing the wheel here, right? I think Dave Domeshek just fell asleep as a result of all the coach speak.

Whoa, I haven't experienced such charisma since Joe Philbin. I mean, what are we doing? This is his introduction to the world. I agree with you, Zazz. Like, yes, you've done it, coach. You've reinvented coaching with ignoring 7-on-7. Also, I don't care for the long sleeve white t-shirt underneath the turquoise t-shirt. Bad look.

Now, is that you don't care about the long sleeve under the short sleeve, or you don't care about the color scheme?

No, I don't care for the chosen outfit, the long sleeve underneath the t-shirt. Well, what's the point of that? Especially in Miami, right?

I wear short sleeve shirts over long sleeve shirts over short sleeve shirts.

The vibe I'm getting from Haffley is that he's just like trying to not be Mike McDaniel. Like the take on him at the end was just like too, too whimsical. Like he's just like this.

I'm a football guy.

You had a fun guy before. I'm hard-nosed and we're going to do it the right way.

We're going to be accountable.

Every sentence, every paragraph I've heard Haffley say this offseason. Accountability.

Have we heard anything about Malik Willis yet? I mean, I know we're only a couple of days into camp at this point.

Like, I heard there were a lot of drops yesterday. I heard Tutu Atwell was not good.

Well, this wide receiver room is going to stink, right?

Exactly.

Yeah, it's gonna be a weird year for them, man.

The best time of year though, just getting like reports from, from camp.

Yeah, I mean, what I do think though is that there is going to be, if you blur your eyes, something akin to, um, the Justin Fields in Chicago experience in week to week it will be— there will be some bad games, but there will be enough flashes where you sort of grade Malik Willis on a curve because of how bad the players are around him. But I bet you there will be conversations on this show and beyond about like, all right, they're not doing Malik Willis any favors, but maybe we don't need to draft a quarterback in 2027 because maybe at least we have the answer here. And I wonder how many times that's going to come up. From you, Zaslow, and otherwise everybody rooting for the Dolphins in 2026.

I mean, I'm—

lose game.

Um, no, I, I don't watch like that. I mean, I've been really clear about the way that I watch the Dolphins. I, I don't watch hoping that they lose because I want the higher draft pick. I just, I can't, I can't experience my favorite team that way. Now, when they do lose, softens the blow because I'm not stupid, but I, I don't watch the game hoping for losses.

Dave, to that point, like, I think the objective for this season is do you have a quarterback that can lead you for the next 2 or 3 years or not, right? Like, everything, the nucleus around the The entire team is built on that fact. Can this guy play quarterback or not?

Mr. Wright, I completely agree with you, and I, I think he is—

you know, there's so many teams that didn't take a run at him because it was the unknown, um, they're, you know, limited, uh, um, exposure in, in regular season games. But I mean, that the idea that you could pay him what you want for 2 years as a transition until you do find the answer, I think Dolphins fans are going to be seduced. That's my prediction by the Malik Willis experience this season?

Well, I think the thing that— if you're right, I think the thing that Dolphin fans are going to be seduced by is we've never had a quarterback like this. We've never had the running quarterback.

What are you doing to Jay Fiedler?

Well, well, you've had a— by the way, you better not say anything negative about Jay Fiedler.

I'm saying he's the best running quarterback.

Big Jay Fiedler guy. All right, that guy had guts. I was a big Jay Fiedler guy, and it doesn't hurt that he was Jewish. Anyway, we've had quarterbacks who can run, but we've never had running quarterbacks. Like, Jay Feather was a quarterback who could run. Ryan Tannehill was a quarterback who could run. Malik Willis, like, he's a running quarterback, right? We've, we've never had that guy. Like, literally never had that guy as quarterback. And don't give me Pat White. Like, don't be stupid. But we, we've never had that type of quarterback. So yeah, I do think there's going to be a part, Dave, where like the Dolphin fan is kind of seduced. Because we've never seen it.

Yeah, and I think the best comp is the one you just threw out there for his skill set is Ryan Tannehill. I know people have a hard time doing that when one guy is white and the one— and the other guy is Black, but that is, uh, that is in fact the best comp.

I want to play this clip for you guys from the OG's show, which is Udonis Haslam and Mike Miller. And I think it's interesting because these days it feels like Rich Paul runs the NBA. Rich Paul— I mean, Rich Paul, most powerful agent in the league?

He's up there.

Who else would be next to him then?

Bill Duffy's up there, uh, Mark Bartelstein is up there, Jeff Schwartz. Like, there's some names.

Well, certainly he's out in front in a way that no other agent is.

Yeah, he has a podcast.

And even before the podcast though, right?

Uh, man, I don't— Mark Bartelstein is all over every— Aaron Mintz at CAA, he's, he's everywhere. He's, I believe, the originator of, hey, when you break news, you credit me on it. Where it's like, as per Aaron Mintz of CA, like that whole thing that newsbreakers all do now. Instead of saying, hey, so-and-so signed a 5-year deal, $100 million, everything guaranteed. It used to be that was just the news. Right now it's like, as per Aaron Mintz of CA, as per Mark Bartelsy in a priority— like that started, I think, with Aaron Mintz.

I think—

I guess what I would say is before the podcast, before we're actually seeing Rich Paul on your screen. If you would have asked the regular everyday NBA fan, sure, can you name me any player agents, I think they're gonna name Rich Paul, and I don't know if they're naming anybody else.

They probably name you a guy— what's the Shark Never Sleeps guy? Oh, uh, what's my man who went to Miami with Dan? Oh man, well, the football agent, who's it? Who's it?

Trace Armstrong?

No, Trace didn't go to Miami. Not Trace, the other guy. Come on, guys. He repped like every bigger— the US—

Rosenhaus?

Drew Rosenhaus.

Oh, okay, but he's not an NBA guy.

No, I know, but that's— I think that's what people—

that's what confused me. I was like, wait a second, who?

Okay, Italian guy.

Wow, how did you forget Drew Rosenhaus's name? Anyway, so I want to play this clip for you because Rich Paul is like the guy now. Very powerful agent. And I don't know the last time you heard someone speak about Rich Paul like this because While Norris Cole is the guest in studio with UD and Mike Miller, Norris Cole is not mentioning Rich Paul's name, but it's Rich Paul that he's talking about here. Give this a listen.

I learned a hard lesson in the business of basketball, man. Um, for y'all young fellas out there, when you have an agent, make sure you're involved in what's going on. Don't just let them handle stuff behind the scenes without you knowing. But it was my first time in free agency, I didn't know that. Yeah. And so, um, I had a powerful agent and I let him do everything, all the negotiations. I didn't even think twice about it. But you know, he did some bad negotiation. You know, you just got to call it what it is. And I caught wind of it late and I ended up firing him. And you know, when you fire a powerful agent, of course they're going to save face. And that's what happened. And tried to make it seem like I was the greedy one, which in reality I wasn't.

Yeah.

And so, you know, that's what happened. So I ended up having to take a deal in China for a couple of months and then, you know, got injured out there, rehab 8 weeks, came back and got a chance in OKC, the Russell Westbrook triple-double year. Yes. But it was, it was tough after that.

He would go on to say it cost him about $70 to $80 million, which I don't know where he—

$70 to $80?

I don't know where he's coming up with that figure, number one. But I thought, I thought that was interesting because that's pretty harsh words there for Rich Paul. I mean, right.

This is what I'll say.

Like he's saying Rich Paul put his name on the street and was dragging his name.

That's another part of the sound, because that's not what I got from that. What I got from that was that bad negotiation, which typically—

what does that mean?

So this is what I'll explain. And this is— I'm not talking about Rich Paul. This is about agents in general. When you are talent, whether you're a player, whether you're in our industry or whatever, you have a choice to make. Do I hire an agent who's at a big, powerful firm? Yeah, because they have all the connections and all the leverage. Or do I hire like a boutique firm because they're going to take care of me and they're going to prioritize me?

But also back then, we're talking 14 years ago, Klutch may have been a boutique.

Yeah, but Rich Paul was never a boutique agent, right? Rich Paul—

what Amin is describing though is spot on, and it reflects the entertainment industry as well. It's like, how big a fish are you? I'm sorry I interrupted you.

I mean, no, no, no, don't apologize.

So where you're going here—

so as a result, when you are with a big powerful agency You might think, oh yeah, they're gonna get me in rooms, and they might. They do. That is their, their power. But the problem is you become a pawn in their grand scheme. Because I'm an agent, I get 4% on the NBA level, 4% of the earnings of all of my clients. In the same way, for us, typical is 10%.

Why is it 10% for us and it's 3 to 4%?

Because we don't have, we don't have a strong union. That's why.

The contract's like $80 million versus That too, right?

Like 4% versus not 80 million, right? So, but as a result, if let's say I have 3 clients, I'm agent so-and-so from ABC Sports, right? And I have 3 clients. I got Roy Bellamy, who's a superstar. I've got Tony, who's a superstar. I got Chris, who's a role player, right? So I'm trying to get Roy 20. I'm trying to get Tony 20. I'm trying to get 15, Chris 5.

Right?

4% of that is, you know, whatever it is, like, you know, do the math, right? But let's say the team goes, you know, I really like Tony. Ah, I'll take Chris, but I ain't paying him more than 2. But I'll pay Tony 30.

Oh, the agent doesn't care because he's so—

I don't care, I'm getting 4% of 32. I'm not gonna like, well, I only got 4% on 2, that's not enough. He's like, no, no, So as a totality, I'm making out.

And that happens a lot?

That happens a lot.

Gimme that boutique.

And so, well then the boutique is like, hey, can we talk to someone else? And they're like, well I tried, I called and they wouldn't call me back. Like that's the game that you're playing. You're just like, well if I get someone who's all the way from me but not having the connections, that doesn't help either. So I don't know what happened with Norris Cole. That clip is very short, that's the first time I'm hearing it. I would imagine when I hear bad negotiation, the first thing I thought of, like, oh, you were a pawn and they told you you're going to get this much. And whoever they were dealing with was like, I will give you this for that guy, but we're only paying this much for this guy. And now you're on the short end of the stick.

Yeah.

He went on to say it cost him $70 to $80 million.

That part is—

I don't know where he got that number.

The only way that's possible is if you're telling me 14 years ago there was a team that said, ah, we won't go a dollar over $70. And Rich said, '70? My client's worth way more than that.' And that's how he lost out on $70 million. And I don't see that one happening.

I gotta get that 5 mil.