Transcript of How Should We Feel About The Tarik Skubal Trade? | Local Hour

Have you guys, off the top of your head, have you guys found a trade anywhere in sports since, I don't know, LeBron, Wade, and Bosh coming here that ends up echoing to create the conversation that the Scooble trade does, where everyone's just like, that's not fair, where the reaction from everybody is a trade happens in sports And the consensus is that doesn't feel right. That's not something that should be allowed. Can something be done?

I think there were hints of that with Jaylen Brown, but we were too busy laughing. And in a little bit with Luka too, especially when you consider the reasoning that Dallas gave, which was, you know, wanting to be able to depend on Luka's fitness and then acquiring Anthony Davis.

Oh, but you're doing this the other way, though. The way that I'm doing this is not that Detroit didn't get enough. It's that the Dodgers have too much, that the Dodgers shouldn't be allowed to be the one that acquired— that any other team, there wouldn't have been this reaction. There's only one team you can trade him to where you get a, a sport cratering kind of reaction where everyone's like, that's not right. You shouldn't be allowed to do that.

Durant in free agency when he went to the Warriors and they had already been to the back-to-back finals, like being in that spot.

Yeah, but specific to trade, I do think that a big part of this— and look, I'm not going to pretend to know the depths of LA's farm system, but a big part of this is like, that got you Scooble?

Oh, but no, the baseball people are saying that that is a good offer and that somebody could have beaten that offer and nobody did. I'm just— I didn't think that baseball could do one of these. I didn't think that baseball could have a transaction. And I can't even come up with a hypothetical other than this guy to this team. That makes me feel the way that I feel today, which is that everyone is now saying that's simply unfair. It's not even an analysis of the trade. It's just that shouldn't be allowed to happen.

Well, what's hanging over all of this is the MLB is taking out attack ads and preparing for a labor stoppage. And this is awfully convenient and further galvanizes MLB fans everywhere. And a huge part of that attack ad is like, man, isn't it unfair what the Dodgers are doing? And then to give that team the prize of the deadline, the hot stove season, it feels unfair and it's awfully convenient for Major League Baseball.

It feels like the Dodgers were Joe Pesci in Goodfellas where they're like, hey, you want to trade for Tarek Skubal? And they're like, yeah, where is he? He's in this room over here. And then everybody walks in, it's just them. And they're like, wait a second. All of a sudden it goes black. Like, did any other team— I'm not plugged in on baseball, but did any other team have a chance to get him?

Yes, there were other teams that had a chance. And I think I think the Tigers have a responsibility to take a lesser offer there and not do that to their sport. Like, I legitimately think that they have to take the second-place offer just so that everyone's not looking at them and saying, you assholes, you broke the entire sport.

Well, that's also a different type of collusion, right? But I think the biggest issue here is that they think that the owners and the Tigers were a part of it. Send them to LA because it helps our bottom line.

The one trade that I was thinking of in basketball was when basketball stepped in and didn't allow Paul to be traded to the Lakers.

Right.

Marc Gasol was in that trade.

Over—

David Stern's dead body was not gonna happen.

That's right. Yeah, you just said— Well, that's what it made me think of. Like, man, it made me think that Bud Selig should come back from the grave, even though he's still alive, and say, "You can't allow this, Manfred." You are listening to the Dan Levitan Show in partnership with the DraftKings Sports App.

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I'm largely alone, correct?

Correct. Not just because Zazz is on a cruise and this room is awfully spacious with no one else in it, but I am awfully alone on the idea that baseball on the radio is the best. None of you— all of you have outgrown baseball on the radio, correct? You guys, young people have no use for baseball on the radio.

Strong disagree. Also, hey, put it on the poll at Le Batard Show.

I don't think anybody was worried about where you were. Jeremy, I don't think we need a big heroic welcome back.

How do you feel about this Zazzle for Jeremy trade?

@LebatardShow, put it on the poll. Do young people have any use for baseball on the radio? But I love the ambient sound. It's one of the things that I love. So Chris Cody is maintaining that Jordan Álvarez of the Astros, who every time that man bats, I expect a double off the wall, like just every single time he's up, I expect something scorched that the outfielders think they can get to that they can't get to because it's been hit too hard. Chris Cody is claiming that this is a perfect home run sound. Listen to the ball come off the bat of Jordan Alvarez at 743 miles an hour.

Jordan Alvarez crushes one high and deep. Forget about it, 44, just mashes the first pitch he sees tonight for his 35th home run of the year, and the Astros out in front, 1-0.

I've changed it to my text text alert. That's what I hear now when a text— I receive it.

I did not need any of the words. I knew what that was as soon as it hit the bat.

Jordan Alvarez.

That's called un palo. Acoustics.

Get about it.

I want to talk about the Marlins today because the Marlins have a trade deadline and I don't think they're going to trade Sandy. I hope they don't trade Sandy. But I want to play another sound from you guys without any help. From the announcers. You guys tell me what you think happened on this play with this sound. Any guesses on what— and Roy will play it again, but any guesses and take your best guess on what you think happened here.

Slow build here.

Someone get hit? Yes, in the balls.

I don't want to admit where my mind went. I'm like, someone fell from the upper deck.

What?

I mean, that's like a girl, like a—

oh, I think, I think it would be a more sustained—

only some people saw it.

What? No one fell from the upper deck, but that sound played again, Roy. Is a foul ball being hit straight up in the air and a spectator getting hit on the top of the noggin. And it bounced so high, it wasn't even that they noticed it hit him on the top of the head. The way that it bounced is that everyone reacted because the ball flew up just as high as where it had come from. And they're like, that must hurt to have a ball fall out of the sky. It's just a pop-up, but it hit someone square on the head who was eating like a sundae out of one of those, you know, helmets, out of one of those small plastic helmets, and it just hit him on top of the head. And it bounced. It was two pop-ups, the one that landed on his head and the second one that popped up off of his head.

Oh, Chi-Chong City right there.

Tremendo Chi-Chong. The trade deadline is today, and it doesn't feel quite like the basketball and the football trade deadline. But I do think the one thing that happened in baseball is the single thing that could have happened to make everyone in the sport on a weekend when the Dodgers get swept at home by the Red Sox. They get swept at home. They trade for Schubel. And I believe it's just to keep Schubel from pitching against them 3 times in 7 games in the postseason. I don't think they even need— they don't need him. They've already got Tampa's best pitcher. They stole San Diego's best pitcher. They got 2 of the best players in the history of Japan pitching for them, the history of a country pitching for them. They don't need Schubel in any meaningful way. They've also got Boston's best player. They've also got Atlanta's best player. So they're just going around the league and grabbing all the best players. But I put it on the poll at Levitard Show. Schubel, did the Dodgers get him to use him or did the Dodgers get him to just make sure he doesn't pitch against them?

Pitch against Freeman and Shohei Ohtani as a left-hander 3 times in a 7-game series.

Two of the best players in the history of Japan and Yamamoto.

That's right. Two of the best position player, a position player and a pitcher and Yamamoto as well. I can't remember. Remember a reaction like this to a trade. The Yankees dominated salary for a long time without sort of guaranteeing themselves an unfairness. The Dodgers are by run differential— they were until losing this series to Boston. I don't know if it's changed or if Milwaukee has passed them, but the Dodgers somehow are underachieving even though they've had the best record in baseball most of the season and they've had the best run differential most of the season. How did you guys react to the reaction to this trade? Because I thought it was more interesting than the actual trade. I don't think you can let the Dodgers get him if you're a team in Major League Baseball. If you're the Detroit Tigers, I don't think you can allow the Dodgers to get that pitcher.

It fans the flames of all of the conspiracies when you look at him ending up with the Dodgers, because you have all of these people who are like MLB MLB wants the Dodgers to win another one. MLB wants this because they want to enforce a salary cap. They want to convince fans. All the people I was with when this trade happened were like, oh, that's it, it's over. The Dodgers won again. They need a salary cap. That's enough of it. Until I started explaining some of the logistics of the player's side. But this is one of those things with that particular player who's about as famous as any baseball player not named Shohei Ohtani because of his dominance, ending up with that particular team that feels more like the Evil Empire than even the Yankees of the late '90s and early 2000s, where everyone's shaking their head and going, what are we supposed to do?

I get the All-Star roster. They were one swing of a bat away from losing the World Series last year. Like, if Miguel Rojas, of all people, right, doesn't hit a monster home run at a super clutch time, they lose. And we're not really having this conversation, are we?

The entire conversation to me is crazy for a number of reasons, and I'm going to repeat what it is I just said. They saw Tampa's ace and best pitcher and they took him. They saw San Diego's ace Cy Young winner pitcher and took him. They saw Atlanta's best player and took him. They saw Boston's best player and took him. And now they take Detroit's best player, and a lot of people are throwing, uh, this stat around, uh, The Dodgers' 6 highest-paid pitchers would be the 18th highest payroll in baseball. And their general manager, Andrew Friedman, who's coming under a lot of criticism for winning too much and being greedy and doing his job, quote, whenever there's a star-level player that is available that can really shift championship odds, those are the moments that will be more aggressive. When asked about the narrative the Dodgers are ruining baseball, passionately disagree. Friedman. Said. And while I'm at it, they took the Cubs, one of the Cubs' best players as well. Like, they just— they're wandering around baseball. We have it here locally, right? And I don't mind it so much locally when the Miami Hurricanes can go and just see Duke win the ACC and say, okay, I'd like your wide receiver and your quarterback.

They can come over here. Don't mind it so much when it's my team. So Los Angeles loves this. Like, they're crazy about the Dodgers. This is great in terms of what it is that what can be an apathetic sports town feels about baseball has been altered. By the fact that the Dodgers are now the new empire. They are the new Yankees. The Yankees have to settle for taking Washington's best slugger, Luis Garcia. They, they don't— and I don't— they don't even need him like that. Well, they need offense because their guys are all hurt, but they, they need a shortstop. They don't, they don't need the positions that Luis Garcia plays. But there's just funny stuff that's going to happen at the trade deadline, and one of them is that the Dodgers are ruining the sport. But we'll get back to that. I want to talk about the Marlins for a second. What do you guys believe as as a fan base. If I say to you, you have all of sports at your disposal, what's the thing most likely to frustrate you as a fan on the field? Like, what position on the field?

Any sport, any sport. What position on the field? What situation on the field?

Free throws. God, man, we love saying, make your damn free throws.

Oh my God, you guys are going to get frustrated with Giannis.

Missing a PK in soccer.

You're right.

God, leadoff walks.

That's because you were— I saw you shoveling sausages by the cup into your mouth, and that's the reason that that happened. Like, I saw you couldn't eat it before the show, you were eating them during the show. You were distracting me because you were eating sausages, and I just heard them in your throat.

I had a panic during our show open. I was like, I didn't have any sausages yet, so I scurried. I wish the camera could have caught me.

That's where you went.

I have like 45 seconds. I went and I got one. I Actually zapped it in the microwave because no one wants a room-temperature sausage.

Uh, video team, can you please get the surveillance video of Chris Cody running to get his sausage that made his first words look like there was an obstacle in his esophagus that was a sausage that was not properly chewed? That's a good one. Free throws is a good one. Uh, I've got a nominee here locally, and it— and I felt it yesterday, but any other nominees from you guys on, um, the position most likely to be hated by the entirety of a fan base or frustrated by a fan base? Because In our town, you guys like to point out Kyle Lowry before, but before there was Kyle Lowry, there was Antoine Walker. And then everybody shut up after he won a championship. But everybody was wildly frustrated with Antoine Walker just shooting 3 after 3 after 3 because by his own explanation, there are no 4s.

A kicker who misses extra points.

Yeah, kicker. Kicker's up there. Most hated positions.

Dan Levitar.

What is the worst part of the life?

Jonathan Sasslow.

The worst part of the life of what?

This is the Dan Levitan Show.

My nomination after second place, I'd put the cornerback who's always getting burned, but I think they've changed football enough that that is harder to, uh, the cornerback who's always getting burned doesn't play anymore. Like, they just, like, they've sort of—

they're extinct.

They've just sort of There's no such thing as Terrell Buckley and J.B. Brown anymore, who like, they just, they just get beat.

J.B. Brown!

But I think that the survival of the fittest sort of evolution of football has made it so they don't— fan bases no longer have the one cornerback who's always getting burned because he just, he just becomes extinct. It's the closer who blows leads, and it's Pete Fairbanks. The Marlins have a closer. He's the most frustrating kind of closer in that he throws 147 miles an hour, but you don't always know if it's going to be in the strike zone. And so he starts walking people and he just— his stuff is totally filthy. And when I say filthy, it's because it's always in the dirt. Like, it's just— when he gets wild, you can't trust him. And while he's pitching better, I don't trust him like at all. I'm watching that game yesterday and I'm expecting the Marlins to lose to the Mets. So the Marlins have been weird this season. Okay. If not for that 12-game losing streak that is the worst in franchise history. And it's a funny way to start a sentence.

It's like an Abraham Lincoln.

Yeah.

Abraham would have— he really would have enjoyed the play if not for the gunshot. If not for that 12-game win streak, the Miami Marlins, after beating the Phillies up, after beating the Mets up before the 12-game win streak, making the Nationals realize, even though they have the best offense in baseball— did you guys even know that? Are they still leading the sport in home runs? Put on the poll at Lebatard Show. Did you know that the Nationals had the best offense in baseball? But after clubbing an assortment of teams, I thought that that is a team that can compete for the playoffs all season. Then they lose 12 in a row and I'm like, as soon as I said that, it's all over. Then they win 6 of 7. And what they've done is the most impressive thing they can do with the lowest payroll in baseball, which is they're interesting. They're, they're an interesting team that is interesting at the trade deadline. And I don't know what they're going to do do at the trade deadline, uh, because it, it wouldn't appear that they're going to trade Sandy. Sandy has fixed his problems. Sandy is— last he pitched against the Mets, didn't allow a run for 7 innings, and he's been the guy who goes out there even during the 12-game losing streak and shuts the opponent down.

Jeremy, what is the word around the Marlins on what it is that they're going to do? And do the Marlins feel about Pete Fairbanks the way I feel about Pete Fairbanks, which is they have to keep him out there because he's one of the few guys they're paying to do that and so they're going to keep using him as a closer even though he hasn't been trustable the first half of the season. They're just going to keep putting him out there.

Yeah, last year they didn't use a closer at all. They sort of slotted guys by where they felt they best matched up with the, the lineups in high-leverage innings. He's the one guy that they have that they're like, that's a closer. And luckily for them, he's 4 for his last 4. He's got 5 straight scoreless innings, which has felt like a miracle this season. He lowered his ERA from 7.18 to 6.37 over the course of those appearances. I don't think they feel that way right now because it's been going well, but throughout the season it's been incredibly frustrating to have these leads and blow them with the guy who's making more than Sandy Alcantara is. And their starting pitching has been so great that when your relievers blow it, it can be infuriating when your team that's playing in the margins when you come to the trade deadline, the Marlins sort of mentality is always, even when you're having short-term success, it's, it's long-term thinking. Their, their whole mantra is about building a sustainable winner year after year, sort of like your Rays. And so they're always going to be in a position, whether they're 15 games under, 15 games over, or right near .500, buyers and sellers.

The names that are out there right now, all of a sudden yesterday there was smoke around Kyle Stowers, which would be surprising to me if they traded Kyle if it wasn't for a massive haul. Liam Hicks is a guy that seems like the odd man out, Rule 5 pick last year, who they've turned into a really good player. He's a catcher, which is a position of need across Major League Baseball right now, particularly in the AL East. The Yankees, the Rays, the Red Sox all need a catcher. He's a left-handed hitter, which he would do great at Yankee Stadium.

Marlins don't need a catcher.

They don't need him. Joe Mack is the future.

They found a catcher. Yes, that's been a surprise. Hits a home run yesterday, straightaway center field. I didn't think that he had that kind of offense in him, but they'd be selling, they'd be selling high. On Hicks.

That, that's the thought process if they sold. And that's always going to be where they are, is have we reached a space of maximum value on this player, whether it's the best they're going to be skill-wise or contract-wise. If you look at Stowers, the reason theoretically he would be moved is he's now headed toward these arbitration years. So while he's under team control, that salary will increase. And do you want to go toward an extension? And we're looking at a space where every team is operating— it relates back to the Scooble stuff— every team is operating unsure if next year is a year that even exists in Major League Baseball, and these players are going to age. So that's a strange part of this entire deadline around the league.

Baseball is funny this way, and they are wise to trade pieces that they have that are valuable when they're selling high because somebody's a Rule 5 pick and they're about at their ceiling. They did this with Cabrera. The Cubs traded for him after he had a good season. Have one good season one here that's an outlier and get rid of him. But I want to talk about the Fairbanks thing for a second. I told you guys the other day that Dave Dombrowski, a Hall of Fame executive, is the oldest executive in Major League Baseball at 70. When he got the young Marlins, one of the things that he did in 1993 is he said, and my closer is going to be Brian Harvey, one of the best closers in all of baseball.

Great mustache.

I don't want a young team to suffer from having been close to winning games and then having it blown at the end and just sort of living with going home from park all the time, losing games late.

Dombrowski is the old executive now? That's crazy.

The old—

he was the hotshot young guy.

Yeah, 70 years old, and he is the oldest executive in baseball. Uh, they tried something with Brian Harvey, and it makes me wonder what the Marlins did this year when they've got the coupon clippers from Tampa running their front office, and they're saying to themselves, the one guy we're going to pay is Fairbanks. It's It's— the Marlins did this with Heath Bell, where they had a fragile thing that they thought was foundationally almost good enough to win big, and they needed to protect games late. And Heath Bell is among the most unpopular players in the history of this city because he kept coughing up leads in the season where they opened up the ballpark. Uh, are you guys surprised to hear me say to you that Pete Fairbanks— that they decided before the season that they were going to be better than I thought they were going to be because they decided that they had to pay a closer to protect games late in the season and only a closer because they're not paying anybody else except for Fairbanks and Sandy.

I am surprised that they paid anybody anything. And I look, guys, I, I understand it's Marlins. They're, they're interesting, especially locally, because will they or won't they? But I mean, are you not putting— licking your finger and testing the air right now? Like, the winds are blowing and fan conspiracy theories are that Major League Baseball orchestrated the trade of the best arm available to the single best team, the single most hated team, a team that has all these weird deferred contracts and additionally doesn't actually have to pay revenue taxes the way that they should because Major League Baseball cut them a side deal when they— when their TV deal went dry. This is— this to me seems like it's, it's all too convenient for Major League Baseball, and it slots right in with all the momentum for the argument that they're laying out for work stoppage, and it's just perfect. And you said it didn't matter if they won the, the World Series if it goes the other— yes, it would. They're always in that conversation. If Toronto wins that, people would be just as mad.

I am just as interested in that as you are. I am saving it for 15 minutes and 26 seconds from now because I'm talking local locally now about what the Marlins are going to do at the trade deadline, because you're going to be grateful for it when it segues into University of Miami football and there's room for that in the local hour and there won't be any room for it later in the show. So I'm going to get to Scooble and all the things with that.

Because I'm mad. Yeah, I'm mad. I'm mad on behalf of you and Jeremy, guys that actually listen to this sport on the radio, that love it that much, because it seems as though MLB got their hands dirty and they pulled off a heist and everyone knows it.

No, what happens here with conspiracy theories is that the people who know the least know it when it's not actually so. This is not a conspiring from baseball.

Are you accusing me of not knowing much about baseball? Because if so, play on.

I'm with what you said before. They need to conspire against the Dodgers. Conspire in the other direction.

And this, by the way, shows me to yes and on Fairbanks.

I do think, Chris, that Manfred should step in the way that Stern did on Chris Paul to the Lakers and simply say, no, I'm going to concoct an assortment of reasons that this can't be so, that you're not just simply allowed to get Schubel. I'm telling you, the Dodgers would trade for him if they could just put him in a box and not play him at all, all season, just so they don't have to see him during the playoffs. Freeman and Ohtani do not want to be facing that person 3 times. It knew— they scanned the baseball. The Dodgers scanned baseball and they're like, who can somebody else get that we're going to face somewhere else in the playoffs who takes out all of our advantages? And this is the guy. And so they can overpay for him with prospects. And people are saying, people who know more than me are absolutely saying that the Dodgers offer looks and sounds like the best of offers. That just because people don't know the Dodgers farm system don't mean that a rental of Schubel for a couple of months didn't just bring the Detroit Tigers the kind of haul that they wanted and that made Schubel cry because he was so emotional about how hard the last 12 months have been.

So Detroit just gets off easy with like, sorry, they just gave us the best offer. We're going to do this, I guess.

Yeah.

When they're a part of this whole thing.

That's my point.

They wanted to send him to LA because they want the cap.

Exactly right.

Dan Levitar.

Ahoy, it's Captain Slappy.

Jonathan Sasselow.

Is this Chum Bucket?

This is the Dan Levitar Show.

I don't know if that's the case. I think that you're looking at, uh, what if you're a Tiger fan, you're like, Give me a cap right away.

I just lost my best player. If you're a Tiger fan, you're up in arms.

It's the way that this sport works where you have great players that end up with major market teams all the time. And, and Tarik Skubal's a guy that they love. They just gave him a standing ovation for his 1,000th career strikeout. He cried on the way out. He didn't want to leave. But Scott Boras is his agent.

Agent.

You have a guy who had an, a minimally invasive, but an elbow surgery earlier in the year. So teams are looking at a guy that they're trading for as a rental. The biggest issue is that Schubel's going into a free agent year here, and they're looking at the Dodgers as a team that's willing to just pay as much as it takes to get him in the offseason. Why acquire him for your AAA-level prospect? Prospects when you're just going to have him as a rental, and he could potentially—

no, but they gave up two of their top 10 prospects.

They did.

The other teams wouldn't, even if their roster or their minor leagues aren't quite as good as some of the other teams. They gave up two of their top 10 prospects for a 2-month rental. Uh, Chris is up in arms back there. Can you look up for me, please? Up in arms. Up in arms is weapons, right? It's weapons in the— so, but are they—

oh, those kind of arms.

But are you— but is it up in arms, like, so what does that mean? So you are enraged and you are fighting with extra weapons? That's That's why we're up in arms, like we're bolstering—

I can't look it up, I'm up in arms.

Yeah, I understand it's hard for you to type when you are up in arms. Put it on the poll as well, Juju, @LebatardShow. Is it hard to type when you're up in arms?

I wanted to go weapons, but I think it's when people are visibly upset they throw their arms up in the air. That's what I think.

More difficult than I expected. I'm already getting tired.

The sausages haven't kept you in prime shape? I hope that video can find for us the surveillance cam of you running and getting sausages because you forgot to have breakfast. Can we check in though with Skip Schumacher real quick? Because I missed the day of the funny ejection. They've been diluted by instant replay. I think it's the greatest thing that instant replay has taken away from us. Put on the poll @LeBretardShow: has instant replay diluted the joy of seeing a manager ejected?

So funny enough, the replay and all the new stuff in baseball, they didn't have any challenges, so there was a strike 3 call they couldn't challenge, and then this happened to in.

Called third strike. Rangers don't have a challenge remaining. That's the end of the inning, right before God Bless America.

God bless America.

After God Bless America, they went back at it, and Schumacher gets tossed here after coming back out of the dugout. Tischner didn't want to hear about it anymore, and then Skip would get tossed right here.

All right, I, I want to play all of this again.

We had to stop then.

Just had to stop.

Just see if I have this right for the audio audience. I think what I just saw is that Skip Schumacher comes out with no challenges because that's stupid. The idea that you can get run out of challenges is just a stupidity, all of it. We're just not in the place we need to be yet with instant replay. But do I have it right that he runs out, he's furious, and then he He, you know, he's grateful to live in America, and so while enraged, he takes off his cap and puts it over his heart. And the man—

begrudgingly—

but the man he was arguing with, him and the ump both look at the flag, not enraged. They are now stoic and peaceful and fine. And then they go back to arguing afterward. Let me see that. Let me see that again, please.

Called third strike. Rangers don't have a challenge remaining. That's the end of the inning. Right before God Bless America.

God bless America.

After God Bless America, they went back at it, and Schumacher gets tossed here after coming back out of the dugout. Kichner didn't want to hear about it anymore, and then Skip would get tossed right here.

That's awesome. Lost art form, arguing with an umpire. It's an endangered species. Not the anthem baseball sound, I think. I thought we'd be playing.

Well, let's, let's play that as well. And I want to find out from the audience which they think is funnier. The one that we just played, which is God Bless America, which is not an anthem. The anthem's before the game. God bless America is, is part of the 7th inning stretch, I think, which is unusual.

Arms up like Moses in Exodus 17.

This national anthem needs some setup here because there's some things to look out for as you're watching this, as they're announcing arms up, as we beat Amalek, as they're announcing this woman Joshua advances with your arms up.

We lose bodies every time you put your arms down.

She's the only one that gets announced here. It's not like there's— because you're gonna hear 3 people singing. There's a lady singing and then there's 2 women behind her that start singing. Only one is announced, the lady in the front. So I think—

and then arms up, we're getting slaughtered out there.

Take note here of when the 2 ladies start singing. The first lady acts annoyed that they're here, almost like, why are you 2 singing during my—

was she surprised by it?

I'm just saying, watch the video because the way she looks at them makes seem like she's annoyed that other people are coming in on her national anthem.

Oh, say can you see by the dawn's early light what so proudly we hail at the twilight's last gleaming, whose broad stripes and bright stars Through the perilous fight, o'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming. And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air, gave proof through the night that our flag was still there. Still there, still there. Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave, wave, o'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

His arms are getting tired. Aaron and her, help him.

I want all of our arms up here for the last 5 minutes of this segment. I want to see if you guys get as tired as Chris Cody is. I am with Chris Cody. He is correct when he says that black woman was pissed that those other women were singing. She should be pissed because they couldn't sing. And I've never heard, and the rocket's red glare said with that much rage behind it, like she was staring at them. You think I'm— you think I'm kidding, Roy? Roy, I am going to play that again for the audience just so, just so, just so the people watching on video can see this woman when she gets to "and the rocket's red glare." You tell me if her glare's not stronger than the rocket's red glare because of how pissed she is.

Oh say can you see by the dawn's early What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming, whose broad stripes and bright stars—

Need the punchline. Need the rest of it. Uh, did I miss the rocket's red glare?

Through the perilous fight, o'er the ramparts we watched, We're so careless, we're streaming, and the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air.

Am I wrong, Roy? Am I wrong?

She's pissed.

I mean, yes, she is enraged. Clearly enraged. Which one's better? @LeBittardShow, put her on the poll. Which one's funnier? Funnier anthem. Pissed-off Rockets red glare lady or Skip Schumacher. I'm willing to get rid of instant replay and have human error pollute baseball in exchange for getting back managers running on the field and getting ejected in hysterical fashion. Are you guys not? You can't press your microphones with your arms up. That makes it a little more difficult for me to do the show with conversations with all of you.

I got, I got mine out with my elbow. Maybe we just all leave them on now. Mike, I kept it up though.

If you're Moses, you feel like a dick. I'm sorry, but don't do it.

We're gonna let a good 25 people—

no, they only had like 100. Ah, Joshua's got it.

Uh, Chris Cody is not wrong that this is hard to do for 25 minutes. Uh, he is not—

imagine holding a staff and lives are literally in your hands. That's what Moses had to deal with.

Yeah.

Uh, put it up on the poll at Le Batard Show. Uh, what is the over-under on how long you think that you can hold hold your arms over your head. I'm going to say over/under 8 minutes, um, over/under on the poll. Can you hold your arms up in the air and 8 minutes and put it over or under on the poll?

Moses did it for the entire day.

He did?

24 hours.

No, he did not.

That—

yes, he did.

No, this— it's not possible. I don't—

they had him hold his arms up. Aaron and Her, did you not listen? They held his arms up.

Also put on the poll at Le Batard Show: do you think it's possible to hold your arms over your head for 24 straight because having just done it for 3 minutes, I'm here to tell you that nobody can do that for 24 straight hours, that your arms will absolutely get fatigued. And it's not— I noticed all of you have now put your arms down.

Well, because I wanted to look up this Indian dude that kept his arms up since 1973. Oh yeah, and it just got— yeah, and it just got stuck. One arm, right? Yeah, but it was like, got emaciated.

You're looking this up because I'm trying to be helpful.

Yes, Sam, you know that I don't have anything for you on Fairbanks, but I got something on the Mar Barati.

My back's starting to hurt.

And come on, I reference Amalek. I'm trying my hardest here.

Why am I holding a bat?

But you guys are all with me on the idea that your arms did get pretty tired pretty fast, correct?

Instantly.

But then I think most people would be surprised by that. I think most people listening to this would be surprised by the idea that after 3 or 4 minutes your arms are going to get really tired, your shoulders are going to get tired being up.

Per Jeff Passan, the Toronto Blue Jays are acquiring right-hander Jose And a trade with the Los Angeles Angels. That's after trading away Kevin Gossman.

So because I listen to so much baseball on the radio, I will surprise you guys when I tell you that Kevin Gossman for the Blue Jays has been a better pitcher than Roger Clemens and David Wells. Like, he's been one of the best Blue Jay pitchers ever, even though he hasn't been any good this year. I'm going to say it again. Gossman, in terms of value, according to the metrics, better than David Wells and Roger Clemens, less good than Dave Stieb and Jimmy key in franchise history. But here's why the Cubs traded for him, and I'm not making this up. I'm watching a Cubs-Cardinals game the other day, a rarity for me because it's usually on the radio. I'm watching a Cubs-Cardinals game and they're talking about Colin Ray because the Cubs have had 14 players go on the injured list and they're really hurt. And I got the best description I've gotten of a player from a broadcaster who's not that good since Eric Reed one time got caught up in the air on, on a loose ball and said the following: And Samaki Walker is A contributor! This is what the announcer said when the colored guy, uh, was asked, hey, Colin Ray, what can you tell me about him?

He starts with, he's a guy, and then it was a long pause, a long pause. So all I've got is, he's a guy, and then he finishes it with, who goes out there every 5 days.

A contributor!