Transcript of Local Hour: The Sink Be Shippin'

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Made in Germany. Mehr Infos auf unserbestes. Perzil. De.. Zazlo, I'm made uncomfortable by your level of tua rage.

What's uncomfortable about it?

It's just outsized. It's your you're not reasonably angry. You've got 25 years of resentment built up for this organization.

Well, you know what it is? I don't know if you're aware of this feature, this character trait, when it to sports talk show host, Dan. We like to be right. And I've been very wrong about Tua. So I don't like being very publicly wrong, all right? But at the same time, I don't know. His behavior last game, it really bothered me.

He's absolutely right. The number one feature of a Sports Talk radio host or Sports Talk TV is I want to be right. And when I'm wrong, it's not because I did poor calculations or poor projections or poor analysis. It's because the athlete I picked messed up.

It's all his fault. I'd rather be interesting than right.

nick Wright?

I like being right. In this case, I was very wrong. Yeah, this is me. I get it. It could be dopey fan stuff.

I'm totally-It's not journalism to be that biased, to I'm not saying that you and Amin aren't right. I believe it's a large governor and how a lot of people on sports television opine about athletes. They made me look bad, therefore I'm mad. My opinion is emotional.

I love admitting when I'm wrong.

Zaz, are you a journalist? Oh, yeah. I would not consider you a journalist.

Oh, boy. That's great that you don't consider me one, but if you were ever to come to the Zazlo mansion, you would see that there is a degree from School Journalism, and that makes me a journalist.

Santa Fe School of Journalism.

Nope, never stepped foot on that campus.

University of Phoenix.

Let's start the show a year in review. Turning over, turning over.

It's here on the old and bringing the new.

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Holidays are back, check. Drop a new track. Here with an audio almanac. We said bye bye Billy, and that was whack. When will stew come back? You know about that Thai food? Lips my mood. Zeslo is a wild dude. Nice hat, so I got the scope. Salute Juju, got you with the hell are you? What's the worst part of the life? Will Fork has got a new wife. Roy Bellamy loves to talk park. When Chris messes up, he says, Fuck, does Greg have a back in my day? The traffic just got in his way. And then he says, You never know. Confirmed you don't get the show. Let's start the show, a year in with you. Turning over, turning over.

We got Pablo vocal modulating.

I mean, he's been weak and observations.

Connor McDee's McGover rain.

Again? The Panthers took that ass. So let's give it to Dan because his name's on the show.

And hand it to Mike because he happened to know.

Now pass me the ball like Stafford Dupuca. Please let me down and happy Chinuca. Let's start the show, a year in view.

Turning over, turning over.

Here on the old and bringing the new. Turning over, turning Super disrespectful of Trista, second day in, questioning your journalism credentials. Especially because I know Trista, and she knows me. We've been friends for a few years now. It's very disrespectful.

I was there for Jonathan Zaslow at his lowest moment in his career. I lent an olive branch.

She really was. That's how we became friends.

When LeBron went back to Cleveland?

That was hard, too, but we did not know each other back then. She was very sweet to me a few years ago when I got let go from 790 Ticket.

Okay, but that's nice, and she's been disrespectful. I know. That's the whole point. Saying you're not a journalist. You say you have a degree.

No, I'm not saying I have.

Are you into this dynamic where you say something nice and then Dan just tries to put a bigger wedge between you?

I I like it, actually. I feel very strong in me and Zaz's relationship. But just because you have a journalism degree does not make you a journalist.

I don't think that's true at all.

What? A journalism is something you live every day, Zaz. In your heart, in your spirit, in your words. You are as biased as they come, my brother.

Zaz, in essence, he's saying, Just because I dress like a police officer does not make me one.

I don't think he dresses like a journalist either.

He does dress like an undercover cop.

Well, that That is fine. All right, I will accept that.

I am looking for some Mary Jwana out here. Do you know where I can find some kids?

What are we doing here with, in general, the look? Are we saying Zaz...

Give me a- Undercover cop.

Give Can you give me a list of categories? Is Undercover Cop better than Skateboarder, Dresses Like a Skateboarder?

Retired Skateboarder.

Those are all the same thing.

Are they? Can you give me a list of other things that are like that to knock off of the top? Undercover Cop, I thought was Witty acting at his strange as trying to be a human being. I thought that was the standard we had around here for Undercover Cop. I don't know that this would fool anybody.

No, he looks like an Undercover Cop. Witty might behave as an Undercover Cop. That guy looks like an undercover cop. But I'll give you something he looks like more than Undercover Cop or Retired Skateboarder. Soda drinker.

New metal frontman.

Fidget spinner salesman.

Put all of those on the poll, Juju.

Troll on the internet.

I want to get to a being benched and feeling hurt about being benched, and I want to get to the University of Miami as well in a second. But I do want to start by throwing you guys a theory on our local hockey team and see if you guys bite on this as they beat Los Angeles last night and hold it together in a way that is unusual given the injuries that they have.

What a team.

My theory is on when you say what a team is. Basketball and baseball are hard human beings physically because of the amount of travel. People underestimate how hard it is, but the amount of travel and everything makes it very hard. But I think our standard bearers for toughness outside of boxing in the individual sports are hockey and football and what it takes to actually be a champion and what it takes to take the championship from a champion, a two-time champion. The amount of physical resolve that it takes in that sport culturally to become champion I think, shows you what this team is, even without its best players, as they try to hold this season afloat because it means something more to them to defend that championship because every day they're getting out of bed with physical pain and going to work. And the standard is you play no matter what the pain is. And it's in football, too. But football doesn't also have the travel schedule that baseball and hockey have. So I believe that what it takes to be a hockey champion physically is actually harder than all of the other sports. When you win the championship in that sport, you're actually tougher than you are in all of the other sports.

Is Evan Rodriguez even alive right now?

Did he get hurt again in the game last night? He got hurt again. I know he got hit in the ear, and then he came back. I'm like, Look, he doesn't even have an ear anymore. He's still playing. I just googled it.

Google AI says, Yes, professional hockey player Evan Rodriguez is alive and well. Not well.

I can guarantee you he's not well.

I don't know about the well part.

Take me through the two parts of my theory. First of all, would you be willing to concede that if it's harder to win the championship in that sport, people say, than it is in any of the sport, that the hockey champion is just tougher than all of the other athletes.

I think just the hockey player is tougher than all the other athletes.

Even football, because I think most people listening to this would say football. But again, I'll tell you, football doesn't also have the schedule. They're traveling all over the place. You don't hear them complaining about load management, and they're traveling just as much as the baseball and the basketball players are.

Football players go a week, sometimes more in between car accidents. Hockey players have four multiple car accidents a week.

You'll still get the football player every now and then who will come out and talk about, They want us to play an 18th game, or, They want us to expand the schedule. Do they really care about our safety? Let me know the next time you hear a hockey player complain about anything.

But I do think that most of us would concede that football physically is harder than hockey on the topic. Yes. Oh, yeah.

No, they're valid complaints.

Is this the part where we talk about their players association being weak and not taking care of its constituency?

You could argue that. It's just a weird cultural thing with hockey. They're just different dudes.

Well, it is bizarre, and I think most people who love hockey know this. I don't know that most people in South Florida know about what it takes to be a two-time champion in that sport when that's the culture you're talking about. The culture is you play through anything to defend that cup. Broken femurs, you're a torso out there. You play through every single thing, and the guy next to you expects you to play through every single thing.

Oh, my God. I've made the point when it comes to the load management with the NBA, can you imagine a hockey player walking into the dressing room the morning of the morning skate? Like, Oh, you're not putting your stuff on today? What's going on? I'm taking the day off. The reaction would be crazy from the team.

But I also think that hockey players are unhealthy mentally and physically.

Definitely. Oh, yeah. They put the culture of the team ahead of themselves and probably end up with lifelong mental issues as a result of all those concussions.

I mean, look, Matthew Kachuk, what he played through in the postseason last year to defend their Stanley Cup, and of course, win it again, is why he has not played yet this season.

We forget the Stanley Cup that they lost to the Knites in. He had a broken sternum, came back, had a game-winning assist, and then missed the rest of the series.

Well, and that morning, too, braided had to help him get dressed.

Yes. I do want the nation, though, to understand the link that's being made emotionally right now between this town and this team. Whatever it is the Knicks are feeling for a team that hasn't won a championship, you are seeing the seed sown on, That team represents me. I love its grit. I love how it fights. I love that represents me in a way that I'm going to pass down to my kids. Generational Fandam is being born now in South Florida because not just the winning, but the things that we're talking about, Oh, they're going to be that proud about the way they try to defend their titles?

Dan, I hate to break it to you. What's happening, you're right, seeds are being sown and grown and maybe lifelong Fandam. But the biggest thing that's happening is that every other professional sport in this market isn't doing this.

Okay, that's how the heat did it for 20 years. That's how they stole the entire But the point is, the heat get Yannis tomorrow and go to the finals.

This town... Hockey, get the hell out of here.

No, I'm not remotely going to argue that we are a hockey town, at least not yet. That's why I'm really curious and excited. A little bit of me is fearful about the Winter Classic, too. I think this is certainly Broward's team.

Meaning you don't think it's going to be a crowd?

I hope it is. I think it's going to be very good. This is Miami Dade County's opportunity to show that team from Broward how much it's appreciated the last three years.

Also, Mike, yes, it's Broward and it's Dade. It's not a three-hour drive.

I understand. I understand all those things. It's also a bigger stadium to fill.

It is Friday rush hour. It might be rough.

I think this is a reasonable I'm concerned that he has that Miami could get embarrassed and be national laughing stock here because Gallia Ochoa... Look, these are two very different cities. I don't know if anyone here cares about Radio Mambi ending its existence after 40 years in this market, firing their entire on-air staff. I'm going to miss those guys. There are a contingent of people in Miami who only speak Spanish. That was their news source. It's gone after 40 years in this market, but it's keeping heat in Marlins games.

Oh, that's great.

They're getting rid of their on-air staff because that translates usually in both languages.

For those that aren't familiar with where Loan Depot Park is, it is in the middle of a neighborhood in the most Hispanic area in Miami day. There are roosters walking the streets. It is Little Havana.

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Don Our Panther Group Chat, we're confident against the lightning.

This is a different team. You're a Panther Group Chat, though. No, I think... No, but dude, you're so wrong on that. We've been terrified of this team forever. I think there's a different energy where the Panthers, they want the lightning. Stugats.

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That's a tagline for World R 3. This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugats. Tristan So you know about that Lone Depot Park?

No, but I am so jacked. I would like to go.

When is this? It's the old Orange Bull site, and it's going to be January second. I'm not necessarily fearful of it not being a great turnout. I think they'll pack the house, but I just want that team to feel appreciation, specifically from Miami Dade County. We know how they've developed this following in Broward County. I see the crowds at the bars in Miami Dade. It's still very much growing here, and I just want this team to get respect the way that they deserve it.

Are we saying, Hold on, the Lone Depot Park is in the middle of a deeply Hispanic neighborhood? Who could have thought about putting it there? Who is this genius that we can think?

The reality is, is Broward is going to travel well. Like, Broward will travel for this because it's just one individual game.

And rangers. And rangers.

Yeah, but I wanted to feel Miami. I wanted to reflect the area, the precise area that it's in, the old Orange Bull site. I know there are Latino Panther fans out there that make the track up to Broward, and I just want this to feel a little bit more vibrant and reflect that community specifically.

You can say vibrant. Q-tip said...

Vibrant thing.

I think that what Mike he is speaking to is how the World Baseball Classic, when it came to Miami, and all of a sudden it's super Latin in the crowd. He's talking about, Will Miami represent the culture on a street of land where my grandparents lived and didn't speak English the entirety of their lives? Because there are roosters around there, and there was supposed to be a town. That was supposed to be an economy that got lifted there. You're asking for it to be super Latin, not just energetic, but Latin.

I understand why it's not. They announced one of the musical performers, and while it's a guy that... A bit of a guilty pleasure of mine, I like role model. I had a decent personal- Role models? I had a decent personal performance. I don't know that fool.

Who's going to be his Sally?

It's not Pitbull. That's what I want. Second intermission. Let's liven it up a little bit.

We'll talk more about the Winter Classic tomorrow, but I want you guys to answer the question before I get to Tua in the University of Miami of whether you're willing to buy on the idea that whether South Florida fully embraces it because it understands hockey or doesn't understand hockey, you're presently looking at something that not unlike the Chiefs and the Patriots, is the best thing this town has ever had in sports in terms of everything that you feel about sports, because it's not just the winning, but you're going to fall in love with the players because they care as much as you do in a way that's super unusual.

So isn't that the answer to what you asked me 15 minutes ago and what has me so angry about Tua? The Dolphins season ended on Monday night, and the face of the franchise who plays the most important position is laughing, is belly laughing, is cackling, is having a great time with a guy on the other team, and Panthers, they give everything to the winning. Can you imagine a player on the Panthers after they get eliminated from the playoff, let alone just a regular season game? Can you imagine just yucking it up with the other player. That's part of, I think, what has me so angry about this is all these things that we love about the hockey team. They care so much. And fans, that shit's important to fans. And then you got this where Tua, boy, he's having a great time as he's about to lose his job.

Well, we've got sound from Tua that doesn't sound like he's as happy as you're portraying him. I understand your rage. It's 25 years built up. Adam Schefter saying on McAfee, Clearly, Miami is going to be moving forward without Tua one way or another. He's a third emergency quarterback this week, and that's just to protect his head and his trade value. That's simply a business decision. But can we get the sound of Tua? This doesn't seem like a person who doesn't care, Zazlo. This is a person, you can't accuse him of not caring, can you? Just because he's laughing on the sidelines?

It's not even just laughing on the sideline. It's after the game. It wasn't a singular laugh, the one shot of him on the sideline. He's having a great, great time after the game with Jalen Ramsey.

Zaz, what if Jalen Ramsey says something funny, man? You're discounting how funny Jalen Ramsey is, and he's a former teammate, so it's not out of the question, right? Sometimes, Hey, man, it doesn't mean like, I'm angry. How do you know I'm angry? Look at my face. Oh, he said something funny. I won't laugh with you. Come on, man. Grow up. Grow up, man. They're adults. It doesn't mean he's not upset about losing. I like making two of your jokes as much as anybody. But the idea of this one snapshot of him talking to a former teammate laughing, that means he doesn't care about anything?

It doesn't fly with me, man. I don't need the players on my team who lose to go into some deep depression, some dark place after they lose the game. But can you have a little bit of self-awareness as to what is going on here? You're the face of the franchise, and you play like shit this year, and this is how we're behaving in front of everybody. Have a little self-awareness.

I think there's a difference in him running around being the jokester, not taking anything seriously on a regular basis versus a one five-second clip of him talking to somebody he knows after the game. This is the part where fans project their loser lives onto athletes Why aren't you breaking your TV like a dumb ass like I did last night because we lost this game? Sorry, man. That level of rage that just makes you angry at your family and all that stuff, that's not normal. Most people are able to compartmentalize lies.

You got mad at the Tua press conference?

No, there's nothing to get mad about with Tua yesterday. I don't know what there is to be upset about. Like, he's going to say, I'm upset, of course. What do you expect him to say?

You're not questioning the amount he cares, correct? Because McDaniel is saying he wants conviction from the quarterback position. Let's play the McDaniel sound here talking about what seems like a slap at to it because his decision making, if it's not there on the first option, he needs him to have conviction about the second option. So he's basically saying He's got a quarterback who doesn't have confidence. And if you throw 15 interceptions, lead the league in interceptions, you're going to lose confidence.

Ultimately, the team needs, and I'm looking for, conviction in quarterback play. And understanding that he is a rookie, I felt that he would play the position most convicted, which impacts every player on the field. And Realistically, that's what I was looking for. I needed more convicted play from the quarterback position. I thought Quinn could deliver on that.

That's not used correctly. Most convicted means arrested a bunch of times. The coach is using the wrong words. He needs his quarterback to have more confidence. That's damning. He's slapping him when he's down. I want to examine the entirety of this with Tua, because I will you that he lost this team in the middle of the season. And wherever it is that he didn't have real confidence, it evaporated right there when the guys in the locker room didn't like how he reacted to the adversity. So I imagine he's got a quarterback who's You think he's mentally broken because of the concussions. I think he's mentally broken because this is a really hard job, and he was alone in doing it as the ship started to sink.

How do you have confidence, or at least maintain confidence, when your offensive line, year after year, has been ranked the golden sieve for worst in the league, and you're under duress, and Tua has been hit a bajillion times, so close that we think he could retire at any time, it's really hard to have confidence when those two factors continue to be right there.

When I say the all of it, okay? There's one player in the entire league who's consciously watched the last few years. His television has talked about his brain might not be right. This sport is dangerous. He looked like he had a ton of confidence when he was leading the league in passing. But what if you wake up next to your new baby and you're like, I don't know how my brain is doing, and I got to hide some of this from people. And now when I get in front of the microphones, everyone's mocking me when I'm in front of the microphones because I'm losing and I'm a caricature the last five years as an avatar for everyone in this sports media who's biased about being right and wrong is yelling about me on television, whether or not I'm actually a good quarterback or a product of my coach. I imagine that would shake any human beings' confidence.

Mcdaniel was looking for the word confident, right? Like the most convicted. I think he was looking for He's having the most conviction? Is that what it must have been? Yeah, that's what he was going for. I could not figure out what word he was going for there.

Yeah, he just was trying to say he needs somebody who's maximum confident. But I really do think we underestimate the humanity in the center of these huddles, man. He's waking up next to a new baby every morning after six years of people arguing about, Is this guy good or not? And then he gets eight months of good where he gets to feel good. What are you laughing about?

I mean, because you keep saying, Oh, he's waking up to a new baby. And in my mind, I'm thinking of him waking up like, Who the fuck is this?

Get that baby its own crib.

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We got to go back out there. That was big. Wake him up.

He doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result. He needs something that happens. You can see him mother-effic.

Can we bother? Are we bothering you right now?

Turn on your microphone, Greg. My microphone's on. Stugatz.

Paint the scene.

The paint the scene is I got to go to work. Good night. This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugatz. You guys aren't understandably being very human about the mockery, laughter, and anchor that we throw around to his ankle at the end. Here, thanks for the good times. Get out of here. Hurry up about it. And I get it.

Journalists.

But I get it.

Man-i could turn it Dolph and on.

Twenty-five years, Dolph and fans have been wrong about this team. You think the journalists are angry? Like, 25 years, this guy, The worst thing is being poor after you've been rich. For five minutes there, this fan base dared to hope because of this quarterback who kept getting brain injured. Now we're mad at him because he dared to allow us to hope, and we looked stupid.

You're absolutely right. That's what it is. If he had just been not good, everyone would be like, All right, well, who's next? Quinior is giving him a try. But it's the idea, Dan, that he tantalized them. For a brief moment in time. They saw a future. Remember the Super Bowl? We were like, What if the Dolphins make the Super Bowl here? That was a thing that we talked about.

I mean, I'm not kidding you when I say before 2000, this was the winning of franchise in all of sports. And then for 25 years, this fan base doesn't win a playoff game, not a single one. He feels betrayed. He's pissed off. He's angry. And every time he voices any of this, it's just universal applause from the audience. And thank you. Thank you for saying what I've been saying for 25 years. We suck in all the ways, but for five minutes, he thought he had a good team.

That's a good sports media journalist right there, man. He knows what the audience wants. He's feeding them off.

Oh, my God. You are a fixture. He gets another more applause than, Everyone sucks, get them all out of here. It's the easiest move in sports radio down here. People still care about this dumb thing. And Tua gave us five minutes of, Wait a minute. Can they fake their way into having another Moreno because nerd boy can call up 18 shutdowns for Rahm Mostert? The fan base is so pissed off and betrayed, so angry, and this is an easy point to just dump all their acid.

But if you can put aside the betrayal and the feeling, the Quin Euler's move is right right now. Because if you find something in him on that low contract, then you can eat what's going on with Tool right now. Because it's been evident. It's embarrassing to have to hide your best or highest paid player every single week. So if Quinn can come in and be any value, I think it's a win for the Belfer.

It's so interesting to me to see the sink is shipping and Greer is the first one out.

It's going to- It's the second time. The ship is sinking.

What did I say?

The sink is shipping.

Which, by the way, I'm not mad at that. I want to see a sink be shipped away. That means it's over.

I'm glad you mentioned that because the first time he said it, I'm like, I've never heard that.

He caught it the first time, but then he just let it loose there.

Let that sip soon.

The ship be sinking, Michael Ray Richardson said it, and I was uncomfortable around it then, and now I've got some trauma in the middle of it where I don't know how to say that that dolphin thing has been falling apart in front of our eyes for, I don't know, I'm going to say 18 months, But the last five, knock out Greer, McDaniel's in trouble. The three faces of this team that made it not a regional team, a national team, were Tyreek Hill, McDaniel, and Tua, all fighting for their jobs, and one after another, they fall out in different ways. And this is how Tua falls out. It's messy. And this will fall on McDaniel if he's fired, too, because he'll be the last place to put it. All of this anger has to go somewhere. And this is the worst place for it to go because this fan base has turned on this quarterback. My God, you pretended to love him through the brain injuries.

I don't think anybody pretended to love him. I didn't pretend. I think they loved him. I think they loved him, and I think he was given some grace. And it's ending the way that it ends for any quarterback that is playing poorly for a pro team.

That's why it sucks. I wasn't pretending to love him. I didn't love Tana Hill.

I actually think he's being extended a compassion and a grace that most of the quarterbacks in his position aren't offered because I think everyone understands there's a line of demarcation here, and the drop off was when these head injuries started to mount up.

I think Dan is saying pretended because you guys turned on him so fast. It's superficial. If you actually loved him, you'd feel bad for him and say, Well, I hope he gets the help he needs.

Not like, Get this bum out of here. It's not like he's coming over for Thanksgiving. Their relationship with him is superficial, so their care for him would also reflect that.

How are we confused about what this relationship is like?

No, wait a minute. I do think all of you are confused about it, and you're forgetting how adamant you were about fighting the media. No, this is real, this number one offense. This quarterback's real. You guys are being real rationalizing with this person is someone you rallied around making the Dolphins a national hopeful figure because you thought you had a quarterback.

I think I'm realist in describing the relationship for what it is. I think you're trying to make the relationship with the market something bigger than it is. I think people understand. It's a quarterback that plays for a pro team.

Yeah, I'll never understand why anyone would be confused with my feelings toward a player when he's playing well and he's benefiting me and my feelings toward the player when he's playing terrible and making me unhappy. That's the relationship. Journalist. That's how sports work. And that's the circle moment right there, which is why Tua is allowing himself to have a great time after the game because he tuned in to you. He hear you. Okay, this is how the fans have turned on me. I need some laugh with my friends so that I don't go home and have that depression that you speak of because listening to you talk about him, you would think he did something to your family, and you say you used to love this man. I go back and I tweeted this out yesterday. Man, the Dolphins would lose a game. We're talking 25 years ago, and Dan knows this. You go in that dolphin locker room, you go talk to Jason Taylor, you go talk to Zack Thomas, you would think that someone died in their family.

It's a different game these days as well.

If Jason Taylor was sitting right here and I said to Jason Taylor, What do you think about two on the field laughing there at night with Jalen? He'd be disgusting.

I'm not saying that this isn't callous. It is. We should probably be nicer, but I would say that he's being offered more grace than, say, Daniel Jones was.

Yeah, but he was I don't think it's the same relationship, guys. I think you're shrugging your shoulders.

Daniel Jones won a playoff game for New York.

You're shrugging your shoulders, I think, on something that ignores that while you're saying the correct things about this is the relationship. I'm the customer, make me feel good, I will applaud, the love is not real, it's obviously conditional. But what if you get your identity from your sport, playing quarterback, and are making life and death decisions about whether I should keep playing because my brain's not working right? You say that compassion is being extended to him now, and I say it is not being extended to him.

It's being extended to him over his objection because he pushes back on the notion about his brain being scrammed.

He was asked yesterday, Are you dealing with any injuries?

We just talked about this with hockey. Everything about it is incentivized.

I'm just saying the grace is such that we're extending something to him that the player himself is not extending to himself.

Yeah, he's like, Come on, baby. French toast.

If the relationship is purely It's transactional, and you guys are all saying it's transactional, it's what have you done for me lately? As soon as you're not performing, you're a bum, get out of here. Then if I'm Tua, the only reason I'm putting my life on the line past all of these concussions is because I feel the love is real. Now you're telling me, Oh, no, it never was real. You're like the Russian mail order bride who's only with her husband because he's a multimillionaire, and now he's gone broke. I don't know. Melania?

Do you Do you have the sound of me screwing that up? The sink is shipping.

I was confused.

Do you have anything that you did- It's a confirmation from Home Depot that you got on your phone.

Finally, it's in stock.

Did you do anything creatively with me screwing up matriculating yesterday?

Dan, I have you saying matriculate.

Matriculate the ball down the field.

That's what I'm saying.

You guys just- You can hear that in the song.

You guys just moved on, and I was like, What?

Matriculate the ball down the field.

One, One, two, three, four. Never take my trick, my trick, my trick, you late this Christmas. Never take my, take my, trick, my trick, you late this here. But who's the who's the who's the Santa?

Don't be late 'cause Dan Leventhal is not speaking great.

Never take my, take my, trick, my, trick, you late this Christmas.

Now, Phil Dan's talking with books and pens this Christmas. And some hooked-off phonics tips to wrap around his ears. I sent him an elf just to educate, so maybe his mouth will miscalculate.

Never take my, take my, #never take me, take me, take me, truc, matriculate this Christmas # #never take me, take me, trick, matriculate this Christmas # I thought you guys were going to help me age with grace.

You are wrong.

I don't think I'm wrong about this Tua thing, though, because if you allow me the starting point on 25 years of betrayal, emotional fan base feels like it's being laughed at, was the winning his franchise in sports, dared to hope for a few minutes. And that player made them a national player for the first time in 25 years, where people were talking about them nationally because they were arguing about whether this could be... If that guy is the star of your team, you're telling me it's the same as Is Daniel Jones disappointing the Giants? You think it's the same thing?

I think it's the same. I think right now we're being hyperbolic. I think he goes away for two years and he's a welcome luminary and gets received warmly at Hard Rock Stadium for the things that he did on the field that were positive. I don't agree with that. You're representing one side of the spectrum as a journalist.

He's on the fan spectrum.

I don't like the insinuation.

I think he'll be making appearances for the club, and it'll be He was better than Tana Hill, and Tana Hill would get...

If Tana Hill came back, he would get applause.

Do you think so? Yeah, Tua is going to get a warm reception in a couple of years.

He's by far the best quarterback I've ever watched play for the Dolphins, which is terrible. No, but I realized yesterday, my first connection to this show, just to show the mediocrity of the Dolphins for my entire lifetime, was Mike Ryan writing a song about Joey Hanos. It was sent in a group chat yesterday because they were talking about Darren Waller potentially playing quarterback instead of Quin Ewer's. Joey Hanos.

The fan base dared to care, and they're mad at him for it, and I don't blame them. I think he speaks for it more than you do. I think that you don't care the way he does.

I definitely don't care. But I'm saying- I don't care at all. I'm just a fly on the wall watching Dolphins fans acting like sports fans. I will say that I cared about Baker, the man, and I thought he was wronged. And because it was tied to the Deshawn Watson thing, I left my fandom, and I'm still a Baker guy.

So, Jeremy, let me get this straight. You don't think Gus Farat was killing You don't know what Gus Farat was out here?

No, I mean, my first quarterback memory for the Dolphins is Jay Fiedler. He's still my favorite.

I love Jay Fiedler.

I like Cleo Lemon. What?

I love Jay Fiedler.

You love Jay Fiedler?

What quarterback has had a nice make up with this market over the last 25 years. I think Tua is leaving. Yes, it's loud now, and people are pissed because it was a wasted season, a season of expectation, which honestly, that's on them. Why would you expect this team to be good? You guys were the problem. This team was bad from the jump.

What do you think the correlation would be between me and Jeremy and Jay Fiedler?

Happy Janukha.

You all love Anthony Mason.

Chad Henny?

I think that we have to do a fan spectrum I think, because I do think Zaz is on the fan spectrum, I think, and it's not a good way. It's an unhealthy way, and I think he speaks for the fan base. Mike's detached. Look, 20 years now, insider, booster. You know the things he cares about. Dolphins ain't one of them. So he's very comfortable telling you how Dolphins fans feel, and I would go to journalist Zazlo on that one because I'm telling you, there's nothing that gets more applause than him crushing everybody. And he comes after two awfully hard. He's rage-filled, and he's getting nothing but applause for it. There I haven't been a dissenter, right? Have you had one person say, Hey, take it easy on him?

99% have been on my side.

I didn't even tap into that for Jimmy Butler. I love the Miami Heat. Love them. But Kyle Lauer brought this out of me. Me, too. Hated him. Terry Rozier brought this out of me. Very few athletes bring this out of me.

So Matt Moore on Hard Knocks didn't do it for you?

You know what? Matt Moore was great. I loved Matt Moore because he wasn't Chad Hennie.

I think that the anger of 25 years, the resentment of the fan base, you underestimate both how attached they were to a star figure and what that hope did to them and how betrayed they feel by him being the face of that hope. You told me we had another Moreno. You told me after I love Jay Fiedler as my best choice in 25 years, that I had a quarterback. Chris Long is saying, I'll get a tattoo of two on me if that's a good quarterback and that wins the Super Bowl. And we planned a trip to Las Vegas that cost this company half a million dollars because we thought the dolphins were going to the Super Bowl that year.

That really played a role in making that trip? Yeah, they were nine and two.

Was that the year they scored 70? They were nine and two and then lost to Tennessee at home. On a Monday night game. They were 9: 00 AM.

Led by 14 early in the fourth of that game.

This is our watch party. We did a watch party.

That was our fault. Joey Harrington didn't do anything for you.

Chad Pennington did. Go Ducks. Actually, Roni Brown playing quarterback is really the best quarterback play I've seen.

Remember, that was when we learned Ronny Ron's lefty.

Yeah, that's the best quarterback play I have seen as a Miami Dolphin fan was Roni Brown running the Wildcat.

Tony was saying, We'll love this, reminded him of Dan Moreno.

Oh, yeah. Dan's loud wrong about Bo Nicks, by the way. He is Dan Moreno.

I think you can put together I'd like a top five, top 25 list of best Dolphin moments. If you want to make the national audience laugh, best moments over the last 25 years, Roni Brown at quarterback is in your top five.

Wildcat game.

It's in your top five of the last 25 years.

And the comeback against the Ravens. Yeah, for sure.

That's why Tua, by the way, is the best we had because he's two of those top five memories.

And the King and Drake shutdown. The win against the Bills three years ago, the home game. The Camarillo Touchdown. When Ken Dorsey Miracle in Miami.

Yeah, the Kenyan Drake. I forgot about it because- Where Gronk was the last line of defense. I was on the sideline with Drew Rosenhaus at that moment.

I didn't remember it all that well because I was listening to that game on the radio, so I still don't know what happened.

Gronk, last line of defense.

That was great. That was a good one, right? Is that top five?

I think we got the top five. That was pretty good. For sure. There have been so few moments.

Zazla was listening to that game on the radio and didn't know what was happening until the 10-yard line of the Patriot.

Gave me nothing until he got to the 10-yard line.

Two fits magic.

The throw against the Raiders.