Transcript of Hour 1: The Bad Bunny Bowl

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This is the Dan Levatore Show with the Stugats podcast.

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So after the Ram Seahawks game, that was a legitimately great game between teams that are rare in that sport in that we know they're good. We knew both of those teams are good. We don't have any questions about how good they are. You can have your quibbles with Denver, with the Patriots because of the schedule they've played. But I think all of us watching Ram Seahawks know that both of those teams are good football teams. I was talking about imperfect measurement systems after that game because the point of the games is to get to the television dollars and get everyone paid. It's not actually to measure the best team. We all understand that part, right? That's not cynicism. The point is not to have the best measurement system.

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Sure it is cynicism. You can look at it the way that most sports fans look at it, which is, I want my team to win a championship. Chip. That's what they really play for. Right.

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But history will remember whoever wins the Super Bowl forever as the best team. But the Denver Broncos played 17 games to get this much of a home field advantage and then are playing without their starting quarterback and lose by three points. Maybe the Patriots are the better team. That game doesn't prove it. They just won because, at least in part, the Broncos didn't have their starting quarterback and the game had to be played, correct?

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You're on a weird sports nihilist kick, though. That's the breaks in that sport. Tons of fans will be like, Our season was undone by injuries. It pacifies.

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I'm not on a weird nihilist take. I'm going somewhere with this. The thing that is the accepted measurement system is always flawed, and it doesn't matter what I think. History will remember that whoever wins on Sunday, no matter how they win, was the best team, whether it was so or not. That's how we're doing it. That's accepted. The part, though, that was funny to me about something that I did with Mina and Pablo on Pablo Tori Finds Out is we were talking about whether or not you like bad weather games, and I don't like them because they make the measurement system even dumber. The second half of the football game made to decide who will play the Seahawks in the Super Bowl was stupid, fun to watch, visually lovely, nothing to do with how we do measurements on who's better. Nothing to do with it. But people love weather games. I'm in an unpopular opinion in wanting the game to be played in a way that offers me the best measurement because what I want is who's better? That's what I want from my game. Not, is the weather affecting the game? Not, is it raining and snowing?

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But it's an unpopular opinion to have. Most people want to watch bad weather games, even though it can make the football stupid.

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Yeah, I love it. I love it. I feel the same way about Thursday night football, where I like Thursday night football as long as my team's not playing in it. I think it's a disadvantage for the two teams that are playing, but I like my Thursday night football. I like the bad weather game as long as my team's not playing in it and my team's not at the disadvantage, I like watching the snow all over the field. I dig it. I like it.

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When you accuse me of nihilism, Mike, they're playing 17 games because Sean Payton very badly wants that last one to be played in his stadium because of the advantage that it is for that defense to be playing in that stadium and making a team in the Patriots who are unbeaten on the road have to climb over them. But there's no way of making the argument, convincingly, outside of the scoreboard, that we got an accurate measurement of who's better when one of the teams doesn't have its starting quarterback.

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Isn't that the big reason?

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And the second half The second half, it's not possible for anybody to play football in.

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Yeah, but they both had to play in it. I think you should be happy with the strides the NFL has taken and moving into these new billion-dollar stadiums that there are fewer outdoor games now. They're all getting retractable roofs. They're already talking about a retractable roof in Denver for their next spot. All these places outside of Buffalo and Lambo, are basically trying to put a dome. Even the Browns' new stadium, that's an AFC North team. They're trying to put a dome on it, and it's part of the design. Chicago, their new stadiums, wherever state they decide to put it in, that's going to have a dome. Kansas City, you could always count on Arrowhead being a weather stadium late in the season. That's going to have a dome. So I think you're getting more your way. And I think it's going to have a cool novelty to it to actually see snow and weather impact some of these games. I'm not with you on this sport needs to name the best team because I need that. No, I just need to name a champion. And these individual battles that teams spend weeks preparing for, that's part of it.

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Yeah, the weather part is so much further down the wrong of the reason that the Broncos lost behind another quarterback. If they had their quarterback, they're probably going to win in the terrible weather game, right? I mean, they lost by three points of Jared Sinema. Bo Nicks doesn't get hurt. Who cares about the cold weather? They're going to score more than seven points. It It was Bo Nicks being out, which is why they lost, not because of the weather.

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Yeah, but you don't have to be bothered by imperfect measurement systems. I'm not even bothered by it. They're all going to be some semblance of imperfect. It's not possible to make a perfect measurement system. If I were the Broncos, though, and people were saying to me today, The Patriots are better than you, I'd be like, They are? Are you sure?

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But we like playoffs in this country. There are perfect measurement systems. Premier League. The team that wins the Premier League Over the course of an entire season filled with fixtures that are one home, one away, where every team plays every team twice. That's a perfect measurement system. There isn't a random playoff. They name a Premier League champion at the end of the season. We like playoffs in this country. We like playoffs even in that sport in this country.

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That is also not a perfect measurement system because one goal is so valuable in that sport that you end up becoming something that is very difficult in small small samples to measure when it's just one goal. It's so much larger in value than everything else that's happening. There is no perfect measurement system. Actually, individual sports in team sports, I should say, because in individual sports like boxing and tennis and some other things, you're right that that is a better measurement system than what it is that we're talking about.

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Dan, you're asking for a perfect measurement system in an imperfect game, right? The ball is oblong. The ball is going to bounce a weird way. Weird things happen, right? If you look back and look at- Did you look up oblong or did you know that? No, no, oblong. I knew that. You looked it up? No, I knew it. You knew it right now? I knew it right now.

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I feel like maybe before when you were gathering the thought, you went on to your computer there- No, I was looking at stats. And you looked up oblong.

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I was looking at stats. I'm not sure I believe you. I'll tell you the stats that I was looking at right now. I was thinking of the 2007 Giants. If you talk about the best team, 2007 Patriots were the best team. They should have won by any metric because all the metrics told you they were the best team. Yet the Little Giants came out, had a win against the Bucks, had a win against the Cowboys, came out and had a super big win in overtime against the packers in sub-zero temperatures in Lambo. If that game gets played somewhere else, maybe there's a different scenario that ends up going on. Packers go to the Super Bowl, the Patriots beat them by 40. That one play, that one weather game changed the dynamics of everything that happened, led to the Giants being the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

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That's a great example because I still maintain that the Patriots, that team is the best. It's better. It's not just better, it's the best I've ever seen. Of course. It's not just better than the Giants and everyone else that season, better than any I've ever seen. Mina dismisses all people who love the cold weather games as Bertu Signalers.

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Oblongly.

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Bertu Signalers. You guys were all complaining about the cold this morning. Say it one more time. The last will come. Bertu Signalers.

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Shit.

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Bad idea by me. Let's keep it moving.

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Dan, you don't believe that he knew oblong, right?

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Bertu Signaler. All right, that one's on you. I tried to talk you out of it. I believe that oblong is how you say, I belong.

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I belong.

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You can make three syllabus, one syllabus better than just about anyone I've ever met. Did you guys watch the Grammys last night? Because I'm convinced that what we're headed toward this weekend is the Bad Bunny Bowl also featuring football.

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I watched almost the entirety of the Grammys, and I just fell asleep. Really? Yeah, I fell asleep just before Album of the Year. I liked it. I always liked the Grammys. I like the musical performances. Who performed? Oh, man. The entirety of the best new artist category, Reba McEntire did it for the first time. There was a cool Post Malone moment. Lauren Hill? Lauren Hill, the first time that she played in 16 years. She showed up on time. She did a nice little tribute to D'Angelo, among others. I watched the entire show, and this is the first time in what I think several years. You could always count on it in the Golden Globes and in Hollywood, but a lot of award shows have really toned down making Magas feel bad about themselves or their decisions because they've all been told it actually affects ratings. But the go woke, go broke thing is not... It's a bit of a fallacy. It was cool to pop culture, once again, find its collective balls and say, No, you're going to deal with this here. You're not going to have your soft comforts of me not having to tell you this is bad.

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You're going to have to hear that this is bad. And by comparison, it's going to make people like Jolly Roll who have been living in this really awesome... How great is life? This is great. We can all get together. I don't actually have to have any opinion to speak into a microphone and show their ass a little bit. So I like that society is forcing people's hands again. No, we played by your rules for a couple of years, making you feel better about things, and now people are dying in the streets. I like that the culture came back and met people.

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Bad Bunny doesn't normally make political statements, does he? He does.

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He's been known to make political statements, especially when it comes to LGBT conversations and stuff. He had dressed as a woman in one of his songs five or so years ago. He's not one who's going to shy away from stuff like that, but just from the musical perspective, he won Album of the Year with a great album. It's just cool to see somebody, Hispanic, be at the top of not only the Latin Grammys, obviously, but as the regular Grammys where it's like, All right, we're here. You have to pay attention to us now.

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First time a Spanish language album has won Album of the year.

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How about first time two pro-wrestlers won Grammys?

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That's right. Bad Bunny has one.

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And Jolly Roll.

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Jolly Roll. That's right. He wrestled on Summer Slam.

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Forgive me. I was of the impression that Bad Bunny makes political statements through the art, not speaking at a microphone while-The opposite.

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Let me hear what it is that he had to say while winning Album of the Year. In a climate, I don't know if you guys saw this, but Florida, which has been aggressively bad about some of this stuff. Florida is now making it so that driver's license tests are only in English, not Spanish, not Creole, not anything. Just aggressively unwelcome to people who don't speak English. If they want to drive in this country, Can we hear the sound from Bad Bunny last night?

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I'm going to say, Eyes Out.

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We're not savages, we're not animals, we're not aliens, we are humans, and we are Americans.

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The hate get more powerful with more hate. The only thing that is more powerful than hate is love. So Please, we need to be different. If we fight, we have to do it with love. If we don't hate them. We love our people. We love our family, and that's the way to do it. We love.

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Don't forget that, please.

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Thank you.

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I have always thought that it is very difficult in a second language to talk about some of this stuff because many people who are hearing that, whoever is on the other side of that, are just thinking he's an idiot because he's trying to speak a second language, and he's not doing it with the fluency of his first language. It's much easier to learn a language before the age of six than it is to learn a language. The way the brain chemistry works on human beings then after the age of six. So he's speaking in a second language. And I was just always of the impression that he didn't do things like that in English, at least in part because so often famous people who are speaking in their second language are afraid to sound stupid. I sound stupid sometimes speaking Spanish because it's my second language. I would not attack difficult subject matter in Spanish. Wouldn't even come near it because I wouldn't be comfortable that I would express myself correctly in that language.

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It's incredibly cool to see because a couple of years ago, Bad Bunny didn't have any English chops. You would hear him on songs, and maybe he had one word in English if he was featured on an English song, but he's come a long way in being able to describe himself and speak eloquently and almost fluently to try and get the main topics around. It's a big piece of growth for him.

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What are you guys expecting on Sunday, both in action, action from him, but reaction to him? What's going to happen?

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People are going to freak out. People are going to freak out. Because every year we do this, right? Really?

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But they got their own halftime show this year, right? So they're not going to be upset about Bad Bunny because they have choices. They got the turning point thing. Who's the other thing? What? Who's on the other one? Yeah.

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Jolly Roll.

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For real?

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People are going to freak out. Every year we do this, okay? Some people really enjoy the halftime show, and some people really hate the halftime show. And this one is going to be the most polarizing of all them because there's never been a lead up to a halftime show.

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Most polarizing of all of them?

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Yeah. What would you say has been the most polarizing halftime show?

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Just during this climate with Kendrick Lamar, if we're choosing on everything, on every single thing, Kendrick Lamar wrapping in an aggressively Black halftime show that has to be run by Jay Z because they're trying to diversify an NFL that is trying to recover from Colin Kaepern. Nick. That one was pretty polarizing.

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It was polarizing because of the pop culture climate between Drake and between Kendrick Lamar.

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That was the main conversation.

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That was more so than anything. That was. Right. That was more so than anything that was, Oh, this is aggressively Black. He's like, No.

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He's going to say pedophile.

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It was aggressively, Drake versus Kendrick.

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That was the whole story. Oh, my God, I can't believe he said A minor. Everyone was going crazy about it. That's not what the reaction of this is going to be. This is going to be a cultural racial deal that the fallout is.

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And to be fair, this is not the first time that Bad Bunny performed at the Super Bowl because he was a guest on the Shaqira Jalo one from 2020, where everybody was like, Oh, wow, this is the most aggressively Latin, vibrating, different halftime show. Bad Bunny was there. Now, this is him, what is it? Six years later, basically. And at that point, I was telling you, he was the biggest artist on the planet. And all of a sudden now, again, not wrong just early for me. Where was Taylor Swift last night? I didn't see her.

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Tony does keep saying that. I was not wrong. I'm never wrong. I'm just early. Do you guys know The origins of how it is the halftime show became the seismic thing that it is? For those of you who do not know some of the details, the artists are not paid. They get a budget to perform, but the artists are not paid. The way they are paid is that sales always spike in an enormous way when America at large is introduced to an artist, no matter how popular during the halftime show. But are you guys aware of the history? Because some of you, I don't know if Jeremy and Tony, if they are old enough to have remembered when In Living Color stole the halftime audience one time on a competing network because during the halftime show of football, there was something that made people leave football and go to see Jim Carrey and what the Wayans brothers were doing on In Living Color. And that's the moment that that changed where the NFL was like, No, we can't have the audience leave during our football game because we have a commercial interruption. And now you have a concert that is going to be as...

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I don't know if it's as anticipated as the game, but I'm not joking that much when I say it's a Bad Bunny concert also featuring football, given that even though this is the most surprising Super Bowl there's ever been between the opponents, it doesn't seem to have the interest level that the pop culture phenomenon that is one of the biggest artists in the world performing and performing in a way that Zaslow is saying it's going to be crazy. You guys don't seem to agree with that, though. Zaslow is saying that this is going to be the most polarizing show there's ever been because he's going to be speaking. I just told you, in Florida, the political climate has gotten so bad that any nationality that doesn't speak English is going to have trouble getting a driver's license because they've ceased allowing you to take the test in something that isn't English. If you thought you didn't understand Kendrick Lamar's lyrics in a very black halftime show last year, what are you going to do when you don't speak Spanish and Bad Bunny is making you dance anyway because he's using lyrics that don't have English in them?

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But that's just his point. It is the most polarizing halftime show of the entire history of this because it's not in English.

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And what happens when he comes out wearing a dress?

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I don't know if he's going to do that. That's not happening. Yeah, I don't think he's going to do that.

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But it's also... That was talked down after it became an internet rumor. But the bigger part is not just like, Oh, no, Pearl clutching over Spanish. They're literally sending ice to the event. Donald Trump is going to make political display of this, whether Bad Bunny does or not. And mind you, the pregame show performer is Green Day. And back in 2016, they were saying, No Trump, no KKK, no fascist USA, enchanting at award shows. It was the first true like, Hey, this guy's a fascist, political statement made by an artist. That was a decade ago. So if you think they're going to start this thing quietly after Bad Bunny just said that at the Grammys in the lead up, Because that was part of it with Kendrick, too. He won Album of the year, and then he was performing at the Super Bowl Half-Time show. So there was this week in between for everybody to get even more hyped up about what was going on. After Bad Bunny says that, if you don't think that the Trump administration is going to make a thing of this in a protest of the NFL, which they've already done before, that's really what's adding fuel to that fire.

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The ticket prices are really high. I don't know if they're going to find anybody there that's going to be of Hispanic origin to afford those prices. Anyways.

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Also, Bobby Kraft is like, Come on, take it easy. This once.

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But also, this is Bad Bunny, the first time he's performing songs from this album in the United States. Did he cancel his tour? No, the tour was never canceled. It was just a residency in Puerto Rico to have everybody fly in to Puerto Rico. He's also doing a world tour that does not include the United States. So this is the first time that you'll be able to see and hear these songs in the United States, and that makes it, again, such a big deal.

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Did you guys, speaking of football, have any opinion or care about the news that the Ravens have hired as a coordinator, Declan Doyle, who is 29 years old, and they move away from Harbaugh and whatever it is that the stability of Harbaugh is. I learned last week with you guys that Harbaugh, like Chris Fowler, is 65 years old. I was stunned. Both of those people look much younger than 65 years old.

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We are so old that people named Declan are being coaches. That For me, Declan is that new six-year-old, five-year-old. The fact that there's a 29-year-old named Declan just makes me feel really old.

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I felt a little weird over the weekend, too, where I realized that every first year, NFL had coach that's forever now going to be hired, all of them younger than me. I'm always now going to be older than every first-year NFL coach.

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You need another Pete Carroll there.

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I think the Dolphins just hired somebody older than you. I think Halfley is a year older than you. But getting back to Declan Doyle and the idea of what young is too young. He's the same age as Lamar Jackson. The coordinator for the Ravens is the same age as Lamar Jackson. And at what point do you, as an audience, disqualify somebody with the ageism of that young person can't be such a savant that they are going to do something that is admittedly hard. The plague calling, you've seen this year You saw that the lion's window closed because Dan Campbell can't do it, right? Isn't that, didn't we arrive at, Oh, they missed Ben Johnson. Look at how the bears took the division from the lions. They took it from the division. They took the division in one year because Ben Johnson takes the play calling with him. What do you make of this movement that would allow a 29-year-old? 29-year-old is damn close to savant, given the difficulties of what that job is.

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It just feels like they're trying to get these guys younger and younger. You look at Sean McVay, who got a head coaching job at 30 years old, and now look where he is. A Super Bowl almost made it to another Super Bowl. He is one of those guys that are savant. You look at this guy, Declan Doyle, you're hoping to get one of these guys early, so now he can be on your team for five years, 10 years, and then end up transitioning to be a head coach. You got to get him young.

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I mentioned this last week. I've asked players, former players, they only care if you can get them ready for Sunday. They don't care about the guy's age. They don't care if he's played. They only care about the words coming out of his mouth and if they can get you ready for the game.

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Just find the head coaching higher curious for Baltimore because they got out John Harbaugh and they replaced him with a Harbaugh guy, a guy that was on John Harbaugh staff in Baltimore and then was with Jim in Michigan and with the LA Chargers. They liked everything about John Harbaugh, except for his dynamic with his quarterback. They're like, We just need to get you out of this building, but we like the way that you do things, so we're going to get the next John Harbaugh.

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Don Levatard. But it's just his titties are sitting on the shelf that is his belly. Stugatz.

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He said titties. It shocked me a little bit. I wasn't quite prepared for titties.

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This is the Don Levatard show with the Stugatz.

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Can you guys walk me through the history of Declan Doyle? Because I don't know how to separate the things that I'm about to say to you. Declan Doyle was already the coordinator of the bears last year at 28 years old. But was he? But was he? Do we know enough to know whether that was Ben Johnson or Declan Doyle, because I think most people are giving whatever credit you give to Caleb Williams improvement. I don't think anyone's giving that to Declan Doyle. I think all people are looking at that because we don't know enough and saying that's Ben Johnson, not a Ben Johnson disciple that's making Caleb Williams look like that. And furthermore, I would say that, man, the bears had some fluky stuff at the end of games that doesn't have much of anything to do with play calling. They had some wildly fluky But again, the ball is oblong, Dan.

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Weird things happen in that game. All of a sudden, Caleb Williams is running 50 yards in the opposite direction and then throws a ball, and then all of a sudden it's Cole Komet there at the end. Yeah, football is weird. Weird things happen.

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Well, and to your point, Mike McDaniel was the offensive coordinator in San Francisco before coming here to Miami, but I don't believe he was the play collar. I'm not sure we could separate the difference between Mike McDaniel and the role that he was in as the Whizz-Kid versus is Declan Doyle. But all I know about Declan Doyle's age is I'm pretty sure he was a student assistant at Iowa while Lucy was still a student there, which shows you how young he really is.

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The Dolphins did that with Joe Philbin, too. Joe Philbin was Aaron Rodgers' offensive coordinator. Yeah, but he didn't call any place. Mccarthy called the place. It's the same thing.

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It's not the same thing because Joe Philbin looks like he came from the age of Pilgrims, and we're talking about a 29-year-old Declan. Joe Philbin- You're right.

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I got to see what he looks like.

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You do, right? A 29 years old- I think you know what he looks like, though. Look, at Levitard's show, just put this on the poll. Do you trust a 29-year-old offensive coordinator? Yes or no? Nfl, not college, not high school. Yes or no?

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Lane Kiffin was 30 years old when Al Davis hired him as the Raiders' coach. And look where he is now, the biggest coach in college football.

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Yeah, but he made a lot of mistakes in order to get there.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Still can't be trusted.

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That's a Lane thing, though. Not an age thing, All right, let's see Declan here.

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Yeah, about what I thought he'd look like.

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Looks like Lehman.

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He looks like Ethan.

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He does look like Ethan. With a beard.

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I would not trust Ethan with anything.

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I think Ethan would be a hell of an offensive coordinator one day.

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Never mind my offense. Look at poor broken Ethan in there. He doesn't like it. But I wouldn't trust you with my offense. No offense. I did not, much like with the Grammys where I don't, one of the ways I age out is that I don't know a great many of the artists I'm also aging out on some pop culture stuff. So someone like Glenn Powell eludes me, his his Fame. I saw the Running Man here, a remake of a movie. I really like the original Running Man. And Glenn Powell made a new Running Man that has $110 million. Well, it depends on what you want, right? Because it doesn't have a terrible Rotten Tomato's rating. It's not like Melania. It's got a decent rating for what it that it is, which is just a big, dumb action movie. But the part that I was surprised by and didn't understand in any way is Glenn Powell was bad in it. And Glenn Powell, I'm stunned that I'm saying what I'm about to say, was a worse actor in this than Arnold Schwarzenegger was in the original. And so the popularity of Glenn Powell as an actor alludes me, but I'm being introduced to him here.

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He's popular. Have any of you seen this movie? Have any of you seen the Running Man? None of you? Neither the original nor the other one? File this one away. We're going to want to request Glenn Powell, and then I can get mad at everyone when we don't book him. Don't react to me. Just keep it moving.

00:31:46

Dan, to your point, I haven't seen the original Running Man, even though I've been told by multiple people said that I would very much like it. It was a good movie. I'm excited to watch the old one, not the new one. Glenn Powell was okay. It's fine.

00:31:57

I don't know if it'll hold up for today. No way. Well, keep in mind, though, at the time, you're talking about a really unique concept where a game show of people playing for their life, this was 1987 or whenever it was, it was a unique concept, and I doubt very much that it holds up. But in 2025, with the stuff that we're talking about, Ice and Otherwise, there is a good movie to be made inside of the concept of the Running Band. It could have been a good movie. It should have been a good movie if you're updating it with a $110 million budget. It was very much not a good movie and not worth watching, and didn't even honor the original the way that I would have liked it honored because I was hoping that if they're going to take an original idea and make it unoriginal by just simply remaking it, you would do it better.

00:32:54

Just a scathing takeout of Glenn Powell's Running Man from Dan right now. He hated this one.

00:33:01

Well, I had expectations for it. I liked the original. Zaz, you saw the original Running Man. You could speak as our movie expert here. I am.

00:33:12

I'm a great movie guy.

00:33:13

I am sure immediately Dean will have opinions on this when he joins us in the next hour. I am positive about that. The original Running Man, you would say, was where would you give it on a Zazlo Rotten Tomato meter?

00:33:26

I haven't seen it in forever. I'm sure if I saw it now, it's not going to hold up. But I liked it when I saw it. I was a kid. Yeah, I liked it. We're doing one through 10?

00:33:35

Six. That's not the way the Rotten Tomato meter works.

00:33:38

One through 25.

00:33:39

What are we doing here? No, it's one through 100 is the way that the Rotten Tomato meter works.

00:33:43

Can I tell you, though, speaking of that Rotten Tomato meter, the Melania Rotten Tomato score is the funiest Rotten Tomato score I've ever seen. Dan, the media score gives it 10%, on the left side, by the way, and the audience score- He said it. On the right side, by the way. He said it. 99%. I would bet you there's never been an 89% difference between media and audience score. 89%? The audience is telling it's a perfect movie, practically. 99%, 10% on the other side.

00:34:17

Listen to the people.

00:34:18

It's a funny score, man.

00:34:19

It is. Can you look up for me, please? The greatest percentage of difference that there has been between audience and media. Melania. Well, no. But this has been happening more and more or an internet critique, where all of these movies that have a political leaning end up getting supported so strongly by the people who have that political leaning that what you just pointed out has happened more in the last five years than has happened in the history of Rotten Tomatoes.

00:34:47

To be fair, I'm respectful to Rotten Tomatoes. They've got a good thing going, but I'm done with them, if you want me to be honest. Nobody has a good movie anymore. There's not one movie that's been made that's good. Everybody says every movie is garbage.

00:34:58

You're done with them now after the Melania No, that's fine.

00:35:00

I don't care about that.

00:35:01

That's it. I'm done with these folks.

00:35:03

To be honest, I didn't even know if it came out. But more importantly, it's that every movie we talk about, Dan just took out Running Man. What was the last good movie? Can anybody agree on a good movie? Oh, no, don't do that.

00:35:13

What was a good movie? What was the last What was a good movie?

00:35:16

What was a good movie? One battle after another week. Was it good?

00:35:19

No, it's not something we had to do. We don't like that one. No. That was a bad movie.

00:35:23

I just saw this week and- Give me a good movie, Dan. If I had legs, I'd kick you, and it was really good.

00:35:28

What a terrible take from It's not a terrible take. It's the last good movie. Everybody complains about every movie. Watch. I'm going to try. Song, Sung, Blue.

00:35:37

Didn't hear it.

00:35:38

Yeah, see? But not a good movie because you haven't heard it.

00:35:41

I'm still trying to figure out what Hamlet is.

00:35:44

That is a bit of a triggering title.

00:35:46

That is stunning. That's a stunning take from Tony that we are no longer making good movies.

00:35:52

According to Rotten Tomatos, no movie is ever good because if it's good, the critics like it, the audience hates it. If the audience loves it, the critics hate it. Figure it out.

00:36:00

Sinners on Rotten Tomatos has a 97. Sinners does.

00:36:03

Not as good as Melania.

00:36:05

It had 16 Oscar nominations. How much did they win? They haven't done the Oscars yet. They can't win the Oscars before the Oscars happen.

00:36:15

We don't find out the awards before the show, Tony. Do you understand how the Oscars work?

00:36:18

I worry about me.

00:36:19

I watched five movies over the weekend. I got all sorts of takes. I saw the Anaconda movie.

00:36:25

Hold on just a second here. I got to get Tony out of here.

00:36:30

Minor penalty, two minutes for verbal diarrhea. What?

00:36:35

Okay, we can talk about Anna Conna with Jack Black. Good luck.

00:36:38

We will. I didn't like it. My biggest issue? No shit. Not funny enough. It was pretty meta. They were trying to do a movie behind a making of a movie and call out some of their script devices, but it just needed more laughs. It needed a little punch up on the comedy. There is one guy that essentially just plays John Voight's character and does a bad John Voight impression the entire time, and I enjoyed that, but I just wanted more hardy laughs.

00:37:05

Anaconda, a difference between the media score and the audience score? Only 27%.

00:37:10

Yeah, I would say the movie was just okay, but the thing that the comedy has working against it is it's not very funny.

00:37:16

How did you have time to watch five movies this weekend?

00:37:21

The temperature dipped below 40, so I just- What else do you watch? Gummied up, watched the Royal Rumble, too. Got to break down on that. Saw Song, Song, Blue. That And I was told that there would be a twist. That movie did change quite a bit.

00:37:35

Do you guys have a Royal Rumble update? You ended last week by- It sucked, Dan.

00:37:40

A little disappointed, Dan. It sucked. We were right to be worried about giving the second best pay-per-view over to Saudi Arabia.

00:37:45

Shouldn't have been over there.

00:37:46

It was not good. Bad vibes. The crowd, I couldn't tell if they were packed. Apparently, there was some optical illusion. Yeah, not good. If I have to ask if there are people at this event, it's probably not a hot crowd.

00:37:57

I was distracted by the crowd the entire night and not in a good way. Not good, Dan.

00:38:02

And Dan, we didn't get Chris Jericho. We were waiting for Chris Jericho's comeback, and then number 30 was Gunther, who had already retired AJ Style's four. At least retired him from the W. W. E. More on that in a moment.

00:38:13

Aj Style's last match, man.

00:38:14

At least for W. W. E. He didn't take his gloves off and put them in the ring.

00:38:18

And all the women, they have to be dressed head to toe. They can't show skin because they're in Saudi Arabia.

00:38:24

The event just didn't have juice, Dan, and it was regrettable, to say the least. If this is how we're starting the road to Russellmania, I think TK was botching it.

00:38:34

You guys don't do that very often. You guys don't come down with- All too often now, I am.

00:38:38

After they botched the John cena thing, I'm like, All right, this product's just bad. It's got to earn my respect.

00:38:44

I very rarely How did you do that. That's not to say that I didn't enjoy the show. I did enjoy the show. I always enjoy the show. I enjoy wrestling. But I thought it was underwhelming. It wasn't that great.

00:38:54

How could you enjoy it if the women had to wear clothes?

00:38:59

What did What did you just do with I always enjoy it? It seems like you didn't.

00:39:02

You said that you're like, so you just have to say I always enjoy it?

00:39:06

No, it's like pizza. But I didn't like it.

00:39:08

No, Mike's right. It's like pizza. Yeah, pizza is always good, but there are certain pizzas that's a lot better. And Royal Rumbles always good. But there are Royal Rumbles that are better.

00:39:15

Pizza is not always good. Oh, yeah, it is. Hospital pizza is not good. It's not good. I'm with Dan on this. Hospital pizza is never any good.

00:39:21

Unless you're hungry and then they give you a hospital pizza and you're like, All right, I guess this is fine.

00:39:27

I think you're wrong. I've never taken a bite out of pizza and said, I'm not going to finish this slice.

00:39:32

You think that hospital pizza is good?

00:39:34

Well, maybe I've never had hospital pizza.

00:39:36

But you're arguing that- How have you had so much hospital pizza?

00:39:39

You can't even eat pizza.

00:39:41

How have I had so much hospital pizza?

00:39:44

Yeah, but you're taking the time to order it at a hospital. It seems like a strange order from a dude that can barely eat anything.

00:39:49

Did you order an entire pie from the hospital?

00:39:51

No, you can't even get an entire pie from the hospital. It's just these crappy cardboard slices from the hospital. Did you not see how I inflated next to my brother's deathbed? You're really asking me why I would be at the hospital so much?

00:40:07

You got fat?

00:40:07

I thought you lost a lot of stress weight. Is that because of the hospital pizza or the tragic death?

00:40:12

But did you finish the slice?

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00:41:27

Everything else?

00:41:28

Everything else.

00:41:29

Wearing clean underwear every day?

00:41:32

Well, that's just a personal decision.

00:41:33

Brushing your teeth?

00:41:34

Obviously smart, but not a rule.

00:41:36

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Episode description

"He talks a lot about eating ass."

Welcome to the United States of Bad Bunny, where Dan has issues with both the NFL Playoff system and, inexplicably, Glen Powell.
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