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This is the Dan Lebatard Show with the Stugatz Podcast. So the basketball and the hockey is now going to be a little limited on a nightly basis now as both of the sports are heading into their conference championships. We're not going to have multiple games every night, but there is something going on tomorrow night, in addition to the basketball and hockey, on Netflix. Mike Ryan, do you get Netflix?

I do.

Roy, you get Netflix?

I don't.

Chris, you get Netflix?

I do.

Tony, you get Netflix?

You already know.

Dave, you get Netflix?

Do.

I get Netflix too. And tomorrow night— Roy, I'll give you my password— and tomorrow night you got the, uh, uh, the, the MVP card, right? And it's Ron— what are you laughing at?

The password.

Yeah, I'll give you my password.

Roy doesn't have Netflix is crazy.

I'll give my password. Sorry.

I, I— the only reason I have Netflix is because they ventured into live sporting events.

Is that true?

That's the only reason. I, I don't like Netflix shows. They're not for me.

Do you have every streamer now? I—

with—

I was a The last holdout, the last streaming platform that I was holding out on was Netflix. Everything else, I have to have everything because I'm a soccer fan. I cannot follow that sport without every other streamer.

Dave, do you have every streamer?

Pretty close, although we do do the thing of like, we like that series and so we turn it on for a few months.

Ah, give me the free 3 months, right? And you watch the show. That's a good move.

We play that game. Yeah, we get, we get a little thrifty here. I just have to say very quickly without derailing anything, My wife heard me through the wall and was very upset that I declared that she thought that Drake had won the back and forth. Oh, Kendrick Lamar. She said, how dare you misrepresent me? You have to correct that. It's out in public. I think that Kendrick Lamar clearly won. He humiliated him and everybody thinks he's cooler, except apparently for Tony.

I'm on the right side of history on this one.

No, you're not.

That's definitely—

that's a West Coast bias, though, from the Damashek household.

So as I was saying, tomorrow night on Netflix, you got the first-ever UFC— not UFC— first-ever MMA card, MMA live event on Netflix. The first thing I want to ask before I get into the things that I do have an opinion about as far as tomorrow night goes, is this overall, like, is this a good card? Is this going to be a good show?

Uh, card's going to be fun. There's going to be a bunch of scraps on it. I think the Mike Perry-Nate Diaz fight is going to be super cool.

It's going to be—

Nate Diaz, every time I see him, you know, you're looking to promote the fight, he's bored out of his mind.

I mean, he like, he's also stoned out of his mind too. That also kind of like makes things a little bit even. Made, made Errol Hawani hold the blunt the other day. I was like, I don't, I don't want to, I don't want to hold this.

I saw at the, the open practice sessions, he was just smoking a blunt and shadowboxing, and he was like trying to like shadowbox the guy with the camera while smoking a blunt.

That's Nate though, like, and that's why him and Mike Perry is going to be an electric fight. That's what I called it, a unc backyard scrap, like two uncles fighting at a barbecue. I love that.

I love how much Nate Diaz loves his brother. Yeah, he, he, he thinks— yeah, and for the video team here, it's just that that was the open session yesterday. He's like attacking the camera while smoking a blunt. He's just—

it's a joint.

Oh, he's trying to take down the camera guy.

Definitely a joint.

I love how much he loves his brother. Like, he claims his brother is the greatest MMA fighter of all time, right? Yeah, which is obviously a ridiculous thing to say.

But again, you gotta step up for your bro. Keep it 10 toes down.

I like how tight they are. So go ahead.

No, so that fight's gonna be fun. The return of Francis Ngannou after all the stuff that he's been through between leaving the UFC, between personal tragedy, between the boxing, and now coming back. It'll be cool to see Francis Ngannou back into the octagon one more time. I don't know what his future looks like as far as where he's gonna be fighting with PFL or with another MVP card, but that guy, when he steps into the octagon, it's like, oh my God, anything can happen. He's literally the hardest puncher that we've ever seen in modern heavyweight history.

But the headliner is absolutely Rousey and Carano.

For sure, for sure. It's been, uh, it's been deemed the headliner for the card. You can watch us on YouTube at 8 PM, MMA Hangouts presented by Netflix for this card. So we'll be watching through from 8 PM through the end of the fights, which will be fun.

Tony, this is the first time that you've done an MMA Hangout for a non-UFC event.

Non-UFC event.

Oh cool, exactly.

So it'll be the first one, and what a better one to do it on Netflix with, uh, with a very fun card. I'm interested to see how the Gina Carano and Ronda Rousey fight goes because, like we talked about, both women have been out of the sport for a decade and almost two decades. They're looking good, they look fit, they look slim, they look like they're ready for a fight.

Tony, they look like models out there.

I know. Yeah, this is a very different camp than they're used to.

It's, it's like, I don't know if strange is the right word. I don't know if you saw, Dave, but they came out, they're doing the poses and everything, and And the two of them come out, they look like models. They are in unbelievable shape, and they're both— they're wearing these sexy dresses. They're wearing dresses for changing.

Yeah, shifting the paradigm a little bit. I kind of like their approach to it. Ronda has been, you know, pretty out there with some quotes in the lead-up to this fight. She's not pulling punches there. Uh, for both fighters, I don't think I can remember a fight where they came in this light.

Yeah, it's— and usually what you're doing, you're bulking during the, the camp and then you cut to try and make weight and everything. And it feels like they're kind of hovering where they don't really have to cut weight. And that's one thing that's super important in at least the UFC when you're going up and you're probably a weight, a weight level above where you're actually fighting. So you got to cut a bunch of weight to make your weight. Right now it doesn't look like there's any weight cut happening whatsoever for anybody.

Rousey looks the slimmest, I've, you know, slimmest, fittest, however you want to put it. That I've ever seen. And Gina Carano, who has not fought in 17 years.

All right, that's crazy.

I would have to guess that there's never been a mixed martial arts fight with someone who has gone 17 years between fights.

Uh, I remember there was a card at the LA Coliseum. It was Brock Lesnar's first ever MMA fight, and I ordered the pay-per-view because I was curious to watch Brock Lesnar fight. And Royce Gracie was on that card and he was fighting a professional fight. So I'll look it up. This may not be as unprecedented as you think.

Well, Gina Carano. Yeah, go ahead, Dave.

I'm just curious about what you mentioned. So promotionally, they're trying to like sort of sex them up is basically what you're saying. Well, no, we're not trying to say that and everything.

We're not trying to say that. Yeah, no, we're actively trying to not say that.

Yeah, we're not trying to say that. It's just— I just—

we're trying to be as careful as we can to not say that.

And well, you just said they came out in dresses and put them out. I mean, if that's what they're doing—

no, that's exactly what we said. That was a face-off. Yeah, that's exactly what we said, but we didn't say what you're alleging we said because we tried to not.

Ah, I got you.

I got you. So I'm not gonna— I'm not gonna hop on this microphone and be accused of objectifying anybody. Unless it's a man.

They're—

so they're not gonna— they're not gonna like, uh, uh, league of their own it. Like, yeah, you guys can fight, but you have to wear dresses while you do it.

These two ladies are definitely in a league of their own when it comes to the promotion of this fight. It's not something that we're used to. Yeah. And I think that's by design, and I think it's effective.

Uh, yeah, I would say you're probably right. It's probably completely by design because I've never seen anything like that before.

Ladies are fighting at 145, so women's featherweight division. So probably not having to cut a ton of weight because they're probably both around that mark.

Well, and Gina Carano, I don't remember I don't remember what she looked like when she was fighting, but I know what she— like, she's an actress too, and I know what she looked like when she was in Deadpool.

She was, but we don't want to have that conversation.

I think she won that conversation. She'll be back. I remember what she looked like in Deadpool, and she was— I mean, she looked strong.

Yeah, strong.

Gladiator strong.

Yeah, yeah, and she does not look like that now. I'm interested in the fight. I'm always interested every time Ronda Rousey fights, and I am going in with incredibly low expectations. I think it's going to be a total shit show.

Really?

I think this card's going to play out. I'm, I'm pumped.

I'm saying that fight, not the card.

Okay, possibly. I, I don't know where their cardio is, and, and these were two bigger fighters, so it's probably— when your main concern is the cardio, it's probably a wise choice that they've cut so much weight for, for this fight. But I think this is going to go better than the Jake Paul-Mike Tyson circus, which had an entertainment value. Netflix seems to do interesting things with their combat sports broadcast, so I'm curious to see how MMA is separated from that. By the way, while we're on the topic of Netflix, I don't know if you guys got into it when I was away, but have you seen the Jake Paul news?

He might not fight again.

Jake Paul—

like, I think I want to give Jake Paul a lot of credit because everybody's fear about this fight was like, look, if this is on the up and up, Jake Paul can die in this fight. And while There are certain portions of the internet that think this is overstated because it's setting up a narrative about a comeback fight or whatever. His jaw got destroyed, and that's a big deal for a fighter. He might, in taking that fight and in being brave enough to take it, he might have legitimately ended his boxing career such that it was. Now maybe he goes back and is a little bit wiser about choosing his opponents. I'm sure that's fine. Curious to see if he shows up to this event because he's apparently been blackballed from the UFC events because having rival—

yeah, this is his deal.

He actually volunteered that he can't even watch his brother compete in the WWE because of the parent company. Because really? Yeah, because you know that that's bad blood right there.

So he's blackballed because he's a competing promotion?

Yes.

And probably other things too.

Yeah, I mean, he takes shots at Dana specifically He has one of the former UFC high-ranking employees matchmaking over there, so there's a lot of bad blood there. I kind of get it, but I do think that Jake Paul— and this may surprise some in the audience— I want to give him credit for taking that fight because he legit got rocked. He legit might have ended his career in doing so.

Well, yeah, like, wouldn't one of the things that someone would have said going into the Jake Paul-Anthony Joshua fight was, "If you take this fight, this guy will end your career." And that's literally—

Played out. —what might be happening. It played out. It wasn't just fight hype. It was legit. Jake Paul risked life and limb and his career. He may never fight again.

Isn't that good? Ultimately for the sport of boxing? Legitimately. Doesn't that, um— You know, I think not for Jake Paul. I understand it's not, but ultimately it is kind of good for the show. No, Jake Paul, obviously he's a self-promoter and that's why he got into the ring and the reason he took his risk. But in the same way, um, I feel like in-game interviews of players diminish the drama. Like, what are we doing here? They— I thought that, that this is way too intense. They're singularly focused on the task at hand. Now they're playing grab-ass with a sideline reporter while the game's going on. It diminishes that. I think Jake Paul surviving in the ring is bad for boxing. What you want to say is, see what happens. Ah, man. See what happens. You think you can mess around and get in here with us? You can't compete with us. You want the vibe of like, man, these guys are different.

Put me down for two non-meager defenses of Jake Paul. I think competition is great. I think it's great for all combat sports. I like the Paul brothers.

I'll just say it, I like them. I—

look, they, they've done some good things with their cards. They've given fighters opportunities, especially in women's combat sports. Yep. I don't think it's a bad thing to try to break up UFC's monopoly of combat sports, especially when it comes to the labor rights of the people actually doing the fighting.

They're very, very pro-fighter. Yeah, very.

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I don't know, it was maybe like a month ago, and I decided to watch Pitch Clock, and I told Jeremy— Stugatz. This is a good show you're doing. This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz. Yeah, I, I like the Paul brothers. Everything you just said about Jake Paul and Logan Paul, look, Everybody knows at this point I'm a huge pro wrestling guy, and Logan Paul is a fantastic professional wrestler. Uh, he's really good at it, Dave.

I also think if you're an MMA fan and you want it to become bigger than it already is, I think you do want somebody to emerge to sort of push back at Dana White. I mean, Dana White, whether he wants it to go this way or not, is turning it into— he's steering it hard into a certain demographic, or maybe he's just acknowledging the fact that it never is going to be mainstream, that it belongs to that demographic. And maybe in that way, as commissioner of this sport, you know, I always think about like Gary Bettman. They wanted hockey to make it in the Sun Belt, and it's been, you know, fits and starts for 20 years, and you guys have benefited from it ultimately. But man, it seemed for long stretches there like, are you sure you want to try to mainstream this sport? It might just be better off as a fringy provincial sport— Canada and, and colder places. Um, but if you want MMA to get bigger, not smaller, then I think you do want the Paul brothers involved with it, because Dana White is, like I say, intentionally or otherwise steering it in a direction where only a sliver of the population is going to care about it.

Yesterday I had the controversial remarks that I like watching people fight for money. I'm going to maintain that take. But also, without this card, I'd not be watching MMA. I haven't been watching, uh, the UFC as much lately, and it's because of the star power kind of lacking a little bit and maybe some other things. But in this card, I'm getting a dream fight. Yeah, maybe it's 15 years too late, but it's a fight that every mixed martial arts fan wanted to see. I'm getting a backyard barbecue fight between two guys that are going to come out swinging, and I'm getting the return of the heaviest punching heavyweight, the most menacing heavyweight that we've seen maybe ever. I mean, Brock Lesnar was pretty scary, but Ngannou is— got the bona fides, got the punching power, and he is returning to mixed martial arts, returning to the octagon. I think that is a huge deal for mixed martial arts, and this could be the seed of something that finally challenges— look, we've well chronicled the challenges that are facing the UFC and their attempts to try to be something for everybody. Netflix is starting from scratch here.

They can actually achieve that.

Look, it's, it's been 10 years since Rousey fought. Most of Rousey's fights— which, by the way, she only fought 8 times in UFC. Now, she was in another promotion before UFC, but it's not like she had this long, huge UFC career. She was 6-2, losing her last 2 fights, and then she, you know, was a huge sore loser and she left and she refuses to talk about it. And, uh, so Essentially the same thing happened with WWE where she was like a huge sore loser. She doesn't like the way things went and she left and she doesn't want to talk about it.

She doesn't leave places well. She burns bridges. There's plenty of bad things that you could say about Ronda Rousey, but you know, it's combat sports. You check a lot of that at the door, unfortunately.

Well, so some of the bad things that she said, she's been really critical in this lead-up to this fight of UFC, but like critical of TKO's UFC. Because TKO was not the parent company yet when she was fighting for them. So she's been extremely critical of UFC, and Khamzat Chimaev, who just recently lost to Sean Strickland last weekend, I guess decided to respond to some of Rousey's comments, calling her ungrateful toward UFC. And so here's Ronda Rousey now coming back at Khamzat.

I asked you on Monday how you felt about some critics out there who are hearing you talk about fighter pay, hearing you talk about the sport, about the UFC. Fighters like Khamzat Chimaev, who was on camera criticizing, saying that you're essentially biting the hand that fed you back in the day, that you're coming across as ungrateful for everything that they did for you. What is your response to those people?

Well, I would want to make something abundantly clear, and that's that I owe Dana and the Fertittas immensely, and I would be caught dead before you ever heard me say a bad thing about any of them. But my loyalty is to them and not the company they sold, and I do not owe TKO's UFC a damn thing. And fucking Clef Lip Lincoln is just hatin' because at his press conference for his fight, people are asking about me and my fight because no one gives a shit about his ineffectual wrestling fests. And people are actually— they can't stop stop talking about this fight because it's so stacked and they're actually excited to see me fight because unlike Kumquat, I have 100% finish rate.

Unlike Kumquat. Kumquat. Uh, is that true, Tony? Are they inefficient, uh, uh, wrestle-fests?

I mean, I mean, look, cleft lip, cleft-lipped Lincoln. Explain that one for me. Yeah, so Khamzat Chimaev has a cleft lip that they fixed, so he's got like a bit of like a, a scar here. And he also has like the Dagestani, uh, Chechen Muslim Russian beard that has just the beard with no mustache.

She got that Netflix writing, no doubt.

Yeah, yeah, they probably slid that one to her. They're like, here, if you ever talk about Khamzat, read this one.

It's a bar.

But, uh, yeah, it's, it's not ineffectual. Like, he's— he was one of the highest prospects and one of the best fighters until this past weekend where Sean dominated him. But that's, that's the fight game, right? Like, you step into the octagon, you close the doors, and anything can happen. She does have 100% finish rate because she also got finished.

That's right, even in her losses she has 100% finish rate. So I'm into it. I'm gonna watch tomorrow night. That's on Netflix. But also make sure you tune in to Tony. Say it again, Tony.

8 PM on The Levittard Show YouTube channel, presented by Netflix MMA Hangout. We'll be hanging out, uh, 8 PM to the end of the card. So we'll give you a nice little pregame show. The card starts at 9. We'll start at 8 getting everything ready.

Here, here. So why are you doing that again? So here is something that we've been talking about for really the last week, and that's these— the, the Waymos. And, uh, I love this— the, the driverless cars.

5 to 10 years.

Tony believes within 5 years we will not be driving as human beings anymore. It's going to be driverless cars, which is crazy. But I saw— before we get to the video that Chris saw yesterday, I saw a video a few days ago, I think it was in Dallas, I saw a video a few days ago where it was caught on camera, a Waymo just completely blowing the stoplight at a busy intersection, making a left into oncoming traffic. And it's like, that's scary!

Are you hopping out if you're in that Waymo?

Like, I'm hopping out while it's moving, like, I gotta get outta here! It's making a left at an intersection into oncoming traffic. It just straight up blows the stop sign. And apparently, like the Waymo customer service said, the light on the stoplight, the way the sun was reflecting off it, it was very confusing what color the light was. Okay, well, I— that can't be the excuse when I'm in an 8-car pileup because there's no driver in this car. Go ahead, Chris.

This is a news report from Atlanta where a neighborhood has just been bombarded with— in the morning, like between 7 and 8, they just— and like Waymos without passengers in it. It's almost like it's been happening on multiple days or is this just one day? Multiple days where it just seems like this is where the Waymos are hanging out in between gigs, apparently. So here's the news report. It explains it all. But Atlanta people, this neighborhood not happy with Waymo.

Waymo after Waymo after Waymo enter this dead-end street usually early in the morning.

I think yesterday morning we had 50 cars that came through between 6 6 and 7.

Neighbors on Battleview Drive started seeing the autonomous driverless cars 2 months ago, but the groupings and large number of Waymos just started circling in and out in the last couple weeks. They even shared video with us when neighbors used this little guy to put him right out here in the street to block the Waymos from getting into the cul-de-sac, and you can imagine what happened next.

And we had at one point 8 Waymos that were stuck trying to figure out how to turn around.

The Waymos are empty and picking anyone up. Parents are worried, not only calling it excessive but dangerous.

So they put these little kids are playing signs in the middle of the street and it caused this like backup of just— if you weren't watching us, there's 10 cars there, 10 Waymos. They can't reverse, so it's just—

they're trying to do 7-point turns to try and get out of the road.

But I like this neighborhood taking it in their own hands of like, no, no, no, this is not your just little drive-around area.

Now, why before they put the cones there, which then created essentially a traffic jam, why were the Waymos all being directed to this cul-de-sac? I don't think it's explained why this was the area.

Maybe they're near an airport where they just need— they have all these Waymos that are available to pick people up. Where do you go when you don't have a call? Do you just go and park somewhere? No. In Atlanta, apparently they just go to this neighborhood and circle around.

That's creepy to me, man. Whether or not Tony is correct about where we're headed in 5 years or in 20 years, what is the advantage in 2026 of putting yourself into one of those cars? I'm sorry to be like one of those people who's like, let's burn the Waymos at the stake like they're a witch. But why are you putting yourself into the experiment right now? It's sort of like the people who want credit for like, look, I'll eat the hottest wing that they got in the shop. Look, I ate the hot wing and everybody's like, Who gives a crap? Well, good for you. The people who brag— it's almost like a thing people brag about, like, I went in a Waymo. Good for you. You put your life in peril with a ghost driver. No, thank you. Let me know how it all turns out. If they're still going and they aren't driving through stop signs and stoplights and showing up in Atlanta where they're not wanted, then I'll get in. For the time being, I'll continue to drive myself. I like driving. Me too.

That's why I'm sad that in 5 to 10 years they're not gonna want us on the road anymore.

That's not gonna be the case. Don Lebatard. I've never stepped foot on that campus. I— if you told me right now your life depends on it, go to Santa Fe University and just, just take a picture. Stugatz. I would die. I don't know where it is. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugatz. I told you we got something to watch tomorrow night on Netflix with the Rousey-Corral fight. But also this weekend, I don't know if you saw this, is the series finale of the Amazon show The Boys. You guys know that show, right? I think it's the 6th season and The Boys is ending. The finale is this weekend. It's a very, very popular show. Which comes from a very popular comic that they have brought to life. And I gotta be honest here, I've tried several times. Like, I've watched, I think, the first 3+ seasons of The Boys. I've tried several times to get into this show. I keep starting and stopping and starting and stopping, and I can't stick with it. And you would think someone like me I love superhero movies. I love Marvel. I love DC, Star Wars.

Yesterday was George Lucas's birthday. Star Wars, okay? I love these kind of movies. You would think that I would love— whatever, man. You would think that I would love The Boys. And Dave, I— it doesn't hold me. I can't stay with it. And, and it had me thinking, like, this is one of the rare shows that you would think is up my alley that a lot of people really love, and I just— I don't get it. Like, do you have a show like that that you would see, like, wow, everyone likes this show, I'm gonna try it, and you're just like, I can't do it, it's not for me?

Definitely. Well, first of all, I've never seen an episode of Murder, She Wrote. I never saw Simon Simon, and they were popular long-running shows. But the one currently that I think people would think like, oh, you must watch that show, Family Guy. Never seen an episode. Why? Because I've taken a stern posture against it because I'm a Simpsons loyalist.

Really? You think you're betraying The Simpsons if you watch Family Guy?

Well, I don't think Family Guy exists without The Simpsons, and that's a straight line. But yeah, no, I feel like The Simpsons— I've seen enough clips and I've heard people do the impersonations, and I— the Stewie is a thing. I know all that. But that's about the extent of what I know of Family Guy.

Have you ever seen Euphoria?

Homer and company. Never have seen an episode. Yeah, me neither. Now I assume that that's one of those ones that ain't— yeah, I was like, the people who like are contemporaries, as you— I'm sure you know guys like this, like fam, uh, Full House. They bellyache about Full House. Like, it's so un— have you ever seen Full House? It's not funny. It's like, they don't make it for you, man. It's for little kids. Same thing, Euphoria. Like, I, I don't think I'm supposed to be watching it. People would find me a creep if I were, right?

I'm presently re-watching Full House with my daughter. We only got a dozen episodes left. I'm enjoying the hell out of it. Well, that's nice.

Well, that, that, that, because you're a girl dad, that's why.

Oh yeah, that's right. A very special bond. Although it's like one of the— my dad had and I had very few things in common. It was wrestling, going to movies, and we would watch Full House together. So it's like a weird thing that I'm handing on down.

Full House was the show that you and your father would watch together?

Yeah, because he would have me on Tuesdays and it was on TV and we loved— we loved Full House. Ah, that's nice.

Me and my father, the show that we used to watch.

I feel like a worse dad hat.

Me and my father, the show we used to watch every week, we would never miss— Martin. Martin was a great show.

Good choice. Good choice. There is a gaping hole when it comes to TV syndication. The original binge-watching. I miss it. I used to be a Family Guy fan, and not unlike the Drake-Kendrick Lamar discussion that we were having, South Park did an episode in which they totally took out the writing process, Basically, it was just a bunch of manatees grabbing random balls in an aquarium and putting together a Family Guy storyline. And I stopped watching Family Guy after that. I'm like, they absolutely murdered them.

I like the thought of Dave being like, I'm a creep if I watch Euphoria. And everybody's like, yeah, you know what? That's about right. Because what I know of Euphoria, I'm like, who's— who is this for?

Yeah, well, not for us is the answer. But to answer Zazz's original question, I gave The Wire a try. The Wire. Everyone says The Wire. What? You can't— you couldn't get into it? No. And I gave— the first season's very tough, but dude, I, I went— I extended midway through the second season, and I know, like, I stopped right before everyone says, oh, it really gets good. If I got to give you a season and a half, no, not for me. Wow. I don't get it. I, I understand it's well made. I know it has its fans. Yuck.

For me, it was The Bear. I've worked in— I've worked in restaurants. I can let you know it's not that intense.

Yeah, dude, The Bear, I like the first episode of The I like the second episode of The Bear. Third episode of The Bear, I'm like, is there more to this? Then the 11th episode of The Bear rolled around and I said, I'm out. I love The Bear.

Unnecessary stress. I love The Bear and I don't like the way you're speaking about it.

Yeah, yeah. Patty melt!

Patty melt! Where's the— I need the pepper for the patty melt! Oh, I'm hiding the pepper for the patty melt! You have to yell cousin. In the middle of that. That was stupid.

Somebody smoking a cigarette somewhere.

Yes, chef. Yes, chef. Yes, chef. Where's the pepper? I hid it because I hate you. Oh, corner.

Yeah, too much with it.

Too much with the chef honorific. Behind. You know, I'll go, I'll go doctor, I'll go senator, I'll, I'll, I'll probably go even coach, but chef is where I draw the line. I'm not calling you chef, I'm calling you Gary.

I do find it interesting that all of them are referred to as chef. Like, they can't all be chef.

The sous chef, you got the main chef.

They're all chef apparently. Me and my father, we never miss Martin. I think it was Thursday nights. I think it was Thursday nights. We loved that show so much.

You remember when it was before New York Undercover? Oh yeah. New York Undercover, what a show. I don't really watch shows all that much anymore. It's just sports. Or movies from the '90s. Back-to-back nights I watched Jade and Fire in the Sky.

Oh, I told you Jade! I told you, part of my triple feature sneaking in movies when I was 15 years old. Jade, Linda Fiorentino. Come on.

I'm gonna go back and listen to the Cinephobe episode that those guys did on Jade because I can't stop thinking about this, this car chase scene. Was it good? There was a car— well I've seen this documentary on William Friedkin, the director of Jade and famously The Exorcist, and he's just a terror to work for. Seemed to be a horrible human being, and I didn't know that he directed Jade. There is— I, I'm not lying to you— a 12-minute car chase here that I think for most of the car chase tops out at 9 miles per hour, and they're going through the streets of Chinatown in the Bay Area. And there is one part where Angie Everhart gets hit by a car, and I've never seen someone fly so far in a movie. It's must-watch. And Fire in the Sky, great abduction scene.

Oh, you watched Fire in the Sky?

For the first time. I was always scared to watch it because they would take out print ads in comic books when I was growing up, and it had a very iconic print ad of the dude caught up in the tractor beam, right? And I saw that, that film and wow, incredible.

I remember when Fire in the Sky came out. I was young, obviously.

That movie was scary to me. It was scary. That abduction scene is legit scary. Now the pacing does not work for today because you don't see one of the, the aliens until like 90 minutes into this thing. But Dave, I'm curious, your thoughts as someone that, uh, it was of high school and college age in the '90s. Jade? And Fire in the Sky. How say you?

Saw Jade in the theater. That's how old a man I am. Also, I'm talking about what we've missed and everybody else seems to love is I actually just last night started to watch it because somebody in Miami said to me, really, you've never seen any of the John Wick movies? And I said, I should correct that. I should check these out. I watched the first hour of it. Consider me underwhelmed. What? So far, I'm gonna, I'm gonna stick with it. It's fine. He's a killing machine. I get it. Great. How many different times do we need to see him shoot a guy up close, turn the gun up, up, shoot him from under the chin, like just basically Keanu Reeves shooting guys with the gun pointed at him from extreme angles. But, you know, it also occurs to me with the rewatching of old movies that I was flipping the dial and what did I land on? Every time I say it, I'm going to watch Hunt for Hunt for Red October. It's one of those movies that if it— wherever it is in the movie, end up sitting there watching it. And I realized it has now surpassed for me— this isn't a qualitative assessment for me, I don't like Hunt for Red October more than I like Shawshank, but I've officially now seen Hunt for Red October more than I've seen Shawshank.

Because for all the complaints that I helped perpetuate, like, is Shawshank Redemption ever not on The cable dial, all of a sudden the last couple years it hasn't been on very much and Hunt for Red October has surpassed it in terms of total watches. How say you?

I mean, you know how hard me and my dad laughed the first time Shanaynay came on the screen? You know, Martin played Shanaynay. He was the actor. He was playing Shanaynay.

What? And Bro Man, you know about Bro Man? Bro, man, I— in rewatch, I didn't notice this initially, but you know that Jesse Katsopolis's cousin that came over from Greece? That was also John Stamos. Really?

Does it hit you a little bit different now when Aunt Becky comes on screen? Say what? Say what? You know what I'm talking about. She does what? Colleges, the money. What'd you just do with your hand?

She looks tremendous. Yeah, fighting shape. Netflix fighting shape.

A little bit shady though these days, you know, a little bit shady.

Anyway, I've seen every episode of M*A*S*H against my will or otherwise. It was the only thing to Mike's point, you know, syndicated sitcoms. I vaguely recall Gomer Pyle's, uh, being fed those at a very young age, but then M*A*S*H took over and it wasn't just one episode, much like you see Seinfeld or Friends episodes rerun back to back That's what filled my TV after school. MASH. I had to endure the transition from Trapper John into Beach, that whole thing, you know, that complete overhaul.

Summer vacations in Miami meant that during a stretch of the day, Nickelodeon turns to Nick Jr. and you're too mature for that. So you go around the dial and you settle in on In the Heat of the Night on WSVN. Oh, what a show. What a show. Matlock. Matlock. You know why? Like, they kept showing In the Heat of the Night on Channel 7. They, they showed this show well into like the 2010s. Yep. And it's because SVN, the parent company, owned the redistribution rights to that series. So they were self-dealing and they kept that and Matlock on the air forever.

What a movie. In the Heat of the Night. Come on, the original. Dave, you know what I'm talking about?

Sidney Poitier.

Sidney Poitier, right?

Yeah, yeah, very strong. What happened though, speaking of rerun half hours, uh, after hours, Red Shoe Diaries.

Oh yeah, I know, I know, Zaslo. Avid viewer. Yeah, an avid viewer. Of course. Pants on. All right, you don't need to say it so loud, but yes, I like Red Shoe Diaries.

More of a Paradise guy on the E!

channel.

Yes, of course, the storylines, the important storylines, the scenarios that, uh, what was his name, Zoltán, Whose Red Shoe Diaries were they? There was always a name in front of them. They belonged to some guy. I don't know who it was, but it was like, Zoltán's Red Shoe Diaries. And then they always laid out these scenarios on a train, or from outer space, or who knows what. Like, I'm going to have to go down to the planet Earth to experience what this thing sex is about. And all that backstory. Fascinating stuff, week after week. Red Shoe Diaries.

Dave, you know about those Taxi Cab Confessions?

Oh yeah, oh yeah, now you're talking. Watching those as well. Yeah, that was good stuff. Dream On, Brian Benben.

You know about that Air Force Amy?

Tony and Cody don't know what it was.

Is it spelled soprano? That's too hard of a chuckle from Dave.

She's on it. We like to have fun.

Oh man, you never got into The Wire. That's, that's, uh, no, but I would stick around for the after-hours program and no doubt And I did a re-binge about a year or two ago of Martin. Holds up, man. Yeah, still really funny.

I, I watch all these things back, the movies from the '90s and Full House too, and I'm like, man, that's one generation when they say, you know, we had it made. The internet was even like early internet was still exciting and not weaponized against us. The '90s, man, what a time.

'90s are the best. The best. Alf sucked though. Yeah, easy.

Big Alf guy.

I remember my first time getting in a cab in Vegas, just kind of like looking over my shoulder like, am I in it?

You were hoping.

Driver to the bunny ranch!