Transcript of Green Bay’s Statement, Drake’s Hot Streak, NFL Blowout Day, Flash Sales, and Guess the Lines With Cousin Sal

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They were somehow plus 18 in field goals with their four, and then the Green Bay misses, too. I was waiting for the fourth quarter fumble right when the packers had momentum, that all of a sudden the guy was just going to bobble it. Stealers' recovery, Stealers going. But it didn't happen. The packers actually took care of business, and that was that. Who did you have in that game?

I had Green Bay. I had them all over the place. I had them minus 13 and a half, so that would have been fun if they didn't give up that last countdown. But I can't get greedy. What a nice week for favorites. Idiots like you and I put Moneyline parlays all over the place. I hope you don't have too much attached to Kansas City because that's where they're going to get us, right? Tomorrow? But anyway.

I do have some stuff with Kansas City. I was smart enough to not attach anything to Kirk Cousins once we found out we got bait and switched with the Panics Cousins thing. We can talk about that later. Do you want to start with Stealers or Packers? Because I thought this game said a lot about both.

I mean, we could talk about either. The only way to escape the Shadow, Bill, is by beating the Shadow. And that's what Jordan Love did tonight.

Do people even really link Jordan Love and Aaron Rodgers together? I felt like the Rodgers bar thing was a way bigger deal than Jordan Love and Rodgers, right?

I didn't think so. And especially then they went on and talk about how they've maintained the relationship throughout and watch for them to switch jerseys after the game. It's like, all right, well, that's no fun. What do I care about that?

Yeah, I'd rather have them eyeballing each other. So, Stealers, we've been saying this for a while. We thought they were a little fraudulent, right? And they lose that Thursday night game to the Bengals. And then this game, I thought they got overpowered. I thought Collinsworth had a good point in the fourth quarter when he was saying one of the coaches were saying, watch the pile. If the pile is moving our way toward them and they're moving backwards, that's what we think is going to happen in this game. And that's actually what happened. I thought the Stealers got a little overpowered. Their defense got torched. And they've been duct tape and scotch tape for a few weeks here. But I think this is who they are. I think they're like a 9-8 team. And by the way, that might be good enough to win the AFC North.

That could be. Yeah, we'll look at those odds. But yeah, you're right. And I think the key is, like you said, the Stealers defense is garbage. It really is like 31st in the league against the past. I think people don't want to admit it because they have T. J. Watt. It's like, No, no, no, rough and tough Steeler's. But it just took a matter of time for Jordan Love to heat up. And by the way, the way he heated up was weird, like these underthrown passes to Tucker Kraft and then another one. But whatever got him going. Then he put a string of, I don't know how many in a row he threw a complete. They don't show up, the Stealers defense. We talk about them against the Ravens. The Ravens were the bad defense. They're going to give up 40 a game. We might see that with the Stealers.

Yeah. There was a moment... So if I'm a Stealers fan, I'm looking at that play where it looked like the Stealers were offsides. I mean, I'm sorry, the packers. Packers, yeah. And Rodgers whipped one-off, incomplete, but it seemed like he took a little bit of a chance because he thought it was an offsize. And it seemed like an offsize. They didn't call it. And then the packers come right back down. They get that crazy Jordan love blue pass to Kraft that easily could have been a pick, too, but it ended up being a great play. And it felt like the game flipped from that point on. But if I was a Stewards fan, I'd be looking at, oh, man, if they'd call that off sides, we had momentum, the packer. But the packers, I've noticed this a few times. They remind me a little of the Eagles, where the pace of whatever they're doing, it takes a while for them to get going. And it's a three and out, and it's slow, and it's methodical. And you're like, you have all these weapons. Why don't you guys just go and go and go? And then the second half, they did that.

I think I think they're pretty scary. House and I, we took them in Ringer 107, partly because we thought they haven't really played an awesome game in a while, and we think it hasn't in them. I don't know if this was an awesome game, but it was a really good game. But I think they have the most pieces of anyone in the NFC other than the Eagles, right?

Is that fair? I feel offensively, yeah. Well, first of all, both. I mean, Micah Parsons, again, in everyone's grill. Gary, Rashaun Gary is right there. Rashaun Gary. Even the one completion there, that pass interference, like Rodgers had to let it go, and that was a long pass downfield. But that's what the packers do that's exciting. They throw downfield, right? Yes. They're always going to be in it. They have eight or nine talented pass catchers now. Now that Christian Watson's back, it's ridiculous. I don't even know how Jordan Love knows who to throw to. But yeah, they throw downfield, they get big plays. Tucker Kraft is insane. And yeah, that looked more like the week one team we saw against the Lions for sure.

And they can run the ball. They can rush the passer, like you said. They We can defend the pass enough. Special teams is good, although even the field goal kicker cost them today. But I always keep tally of wins, losses, and then either or games. That was a legitimate win. So they have four legitimate wins, three either-or-games. They don't have a loss yet, where it was like, oh, man, they got their... They lost. They got their butt kick for three hours or they were never in that game. They don't have one of those yet. They're playing the Panthers.

I think that cowboy's tie should count as a loss. More we see of Dallas, but I know what you're saying.

It was for our wallets. They play the Panthers next week at home. Eagles home on a Monday night. They play the Giants who lost Skatebu and have nobody left. Vikings, Week 12, who they're a mess. And really, their next tough game is week 13 at Lyons for Thanksgiving. So they could go on a little run here. And if you're them, I think you think you might have a legitimate chance at... Could you get a one or two seed? I think would be the goal.

Yeah, at this point, it has to be. It's funny. I look at these schedules. I remember thinking, oh, the Steelers have a really tough November. And now you look at it like three weeks later, it's like, oh, man, Viking. It could be the bears. No one's that good, right? So no one really stands out, and therefore everyone's in it. But those odds for the AFC North are just insane. What is it now? Baltimore is minus 110. Baltimore is two and five, and they're minus 110 to win that division. The Steelers are plus 175. That was with three minutes left. Maybe that changed. I don't know.

Well, one of the things I wrote down in the second half was, so Baltimore plays Miami Thursday night. There could be one win behind Pittsburgh after Thursday night. Pittsburgh was feeling like everything was going in their favor. I still don't know. I didn't really fully understand that Lamar Jackson story and why it was a big deal. Why do you think that was a big deal?

Why do I think that people are making a big deal of it? Yeah. Well, there's a lot of money on the line to say what we have firsthand, why it was a big deal? Everybody bet them at six and a half. They got Lamar Jackson was playing. Everyone had fantasy implicated. I don't know. Other than that, you should just be us with your injury report, right? Did he practice or did he not?

Well, but they never said he was officially playing yet on Sunday. It was a little leap of faith-ish, right? I think it was a practice- In the Thursday, Friday range.

Did he practice or not? I think was the question.

Because I didn't follow this because there was so many stuff happening today. So it's the theory that they just blatantly lied about him practicing when he didn't. And that's affecting all this different stuff. And this is like the one no-no for the league.

So that's a conclusion you could jump to. And then people, of course, because they're crazy, have to jump to the next conclusion that they wanted people to bet the Ravens. And then, I don't Fandle split the money with the league, not that it mattered because they covered. I was like, everyone calm down.

So this is the conspiracy corner.

For me, this is always the same thing. It's like, okay, what's to be gained and what happens if they find out you actually did this, right? What's to be gained? Nothing compared to the trillions of dollars that the league makes. And what's to be lost? Well, you're already being accused of it. That's terrible. And if you're found guilty, it's good. Players like Rozier, it's going to happen to one-off players every now and then. Organizations and league are not going to cheat to get gambling money, people betting.

And I just don't understand. That's why I was asking why this was a big deal. It's so absurd that the Ravens... This is a franchise where seven billion dollars. They're going to be like, we might be able to make a couple of hundred thousand here if we can deceive the public and get some bets both ways. It's ludicrous. I don't think so. To me, the bigger the disgrace was the Falcons all week, whatever that number Everyone thought Pennex was playing, and then they bring in the Kirk Cousins' Corp for today. And it was like, you knew within what, 25 minutes? How did I had the Falcons, the Ringer 107? We thought Pennex was playing by 10: 35 Pacific time. I was like, this has no chance. My cousin's just is done. It was so funny that he was in Trade Rumors this year. He was trading for him.

Nobody could trade. I mean, maybe it's just a joke because they open the bag from wherever he goes. But I The Atlanta games, I think we have to learn. I think we have to put a block on our YouTube floor box to not let us put Atlanta in it. We have to put a parental control on our- Can we block all parts of them?

Can we block gambling, watching?

You should be able to put a parental control. I'm not betting it. Don't let me bet Atlanta. Don't let me bet Atlanta games because that's it. But yeah, Cousins was bad. But I don't know. I find myself trying to defend these bad, especially the 1: 00 PM window quarterbacks, and they just didn't have the ball at all in the first half. It was like a 20 to 10 time of possession. I think they had like 16 plays or something. Crazy Atlanta. But let's just stay away from them.

When Cousin does the thing where he holds his head, a little kid who has sensory disorder and there's a loud alarm going off and he starts hitting his head.

Something about Mary.

You don't want the quarterback who's just hitting their head and doing this. That's usually a sign that something is going horribly wrong.

When you have to send the quarterback to the blue tent because he's trying to hear He's trying to concuss himself. He's jostled his brain too much because he's trying to hear the play. Not good.

So Jordan loved today in that, to put a bow in that Steeler's game. He finished with 360, three touch downs, no picks, completed 20 straight at one point. Thought he needed it. Thought it would have been an overwhelming Jordan love year. And then on the flip side, I think this has been a gravy season for Rodgers. I thought he was pretty good today. He was under duress the whole time. I thought he was pretty creative, and it's certainly a little better than we ever could expect it with him. I just don't think that's a very good team.

This game was not his fault. The defense is going to be a problem. I don't know if he would have taken this gig if he knew the defense was going to be so lackluster, right? Give up between 35 and 40 a game. I will say, though, Rodgers, mouthing effing cocksucker, losing his mind in the first half while wearing the Bumble Bee, half Bumble Bee, half traffic sign costume. This is pretty funny.

He does have the mid-40s dad golf luck now. The passes, somebody should have caught the interception, they drop it. It's like the dad hitting the ball down, hits the tree and bounces in the fairway. Basically, all the breaks Dixon gets. Ravens' bears was the other AFC North game. That's not fair, baby. I'm killing the ball right now. Ravens had their first win in six weeks. This was a tough Caleb game, and I don't feel like the stats properly reflected it. It was one of those you actually had to watch the game, like some of the red zone stuff, the intentional grounding he took, the way he was missing some guys. And there's just a general lack of craftmanship/something with him. And I had the fantasy guys on my podcast on Tuesday. We did one crazy prediction at the end of the pod, the craziest thing you could think of. And I was like, Tyson Bajian is the bear's quarterback in week 13. And we're like, whoa. But I was watching this game thinking, if they had a better quarterback performance, I think they could have beaten Baltimore today. And he wasn't good enough.

You just got that from today because I think he's been- No, it's been every week. Yeah. And he's benefited because Chicago has pulled more turnovers this year than they have through seven weeks. And they had all last year or something. So it may be mask the fact that Caleb Williams is not performing with some good receivers and a good running back and a good tight end and everything else that they set him up with. So I don't know. I would say if you gave Ben Johnson some truth serum right now, he'd be like, I don't know. Bill, you're right. What did you say? Week 13?

I think that's a good over-over. The case I had on Tuesday was just that they love Bajian. They signed him to an extension during the offseason, and they went out of their way to talk about how great he is and what an incredible teammate and all this stuff. And I don't think it would be a benching, but I just I wonder if he got dinged up or something. And in the back of my head, I have this scenario where Bajian comes in and you just feel that flip with the new guy. But that Caleb, it was Jada Daniels last year. It's Drake May this year from that draft. And Caleb's never really had his moment. And this was the guy that was supposed to be the franchise dude at all these guys. But I thought this is a game I know it was a kitchen sink game for the Ravens. I like the Ravens today, but they did have Huntley. And it's a game the bears, I think, could have stolen. I thought they were pretty close in that game. They ended up losing by 14.

We saw Captain Kirk. We saw Snoop Huntley. We saw the Red Rif with all the greats really lined up. I don't know. And then there's, well, listen, the League had to fix it, right, Bill? So that the Ravens covered that original Thursday spread that they had. Otherwise, it'd be too many complaints.

We had a big our Ringer 107 that you guys talked about in the Sunday pregame. The Ringer 107, one of the teams is the fantasy show, and Craig wanted to redo the Ravens pick without Lamar. We had to explain to him that, Picks lock in and that's it. We just basically ridiculed him for about an hour straight. Yeah, exactly.

But it was adorable. Is that a millennial thing? I don't know.

It was adorable that he just thought he got to redo. Then, of course, they win the bet anyway because the bears, how many times were they inside the 10-yard line in that game where they didn't get anything? Was it three different times?

It looked like a bunch. And that last one was crazy where the offensive lineman was looking for an... They wouldn't snap the ball. They just wouldn't snap it. And then they had to fire it through the end zone.

I think they had first and goal. It felt like it was at the two or three, and they somehow didn't score to get it. Do we have, do you think our seven NFC playoff teams already? If I gave you Philadelphia, Tampa, Seattle, and the Rams, and then Detroit, and San Francisco, and then Green Bay as the seven.

Wait, say it again. Philly is the only team in the East, right?

Philly, Tampa.

Detroit, Green Bay, and the North.

Let's give those to the divisions. We'll do three NFC West teams, San Francisco, Seattle, and the Rams, and two in the NFC North, Detroit, Green Bay, and that's just going to be the play-off.

You're saying Minnesota and Atlanta I have sufficiently fallen off.

If you had to bet that right now and I gave you door A, these are the seven, door B, anybody else could crash the party, I think I would pick those seven.

Interesting. I've been watching a lot of prices write AI things with Bob Barker giving ridiculous prizes. What's that? I think you're right. I'll send you a hundred of them and then you'll- If there's AI prices, right? You'll do nothing else.

I don't even understand what that is. Bob Barker is dead.

Bob Barker with a fat guy. Yeah, because I think you could take advantage of dead people more if you're AI, I don't know what they think now, but yeah, like a fat guy getting an all you can eat buffet and going nuts. But anyway, I think that's the... I would say that's the seven. Washington not sneaking in. My terrible team is not sneaking in. I don't like Minnesota at all. We don't like Chicago. I mean, you just run out of teams. And now watch Atlanta, screw us.

So Green Bay, Tampa, Philly, Detroit, they don't have all the teams up yet. I was going to try to figure out a good fan dual if that was a parlay. I think It's better than even odd. So if you had to pick a party crasher, who would you pick?

I can't. I'm just trying to think. I'm just trying to think. I don't like Washington. I don't like my team.

I think there's a slight Chicago case if they could fit because I feel like they're hanging around these games.

Yeah.

Minnesota, no. I think that too much has happened for them.

It would have to be Chicago. It's not going to be Arizona in the West, right? It's not going to be any of the South teams.

I think it's either Chicago or Atlanta just eats us up like they always did.

But I like the seven. I would take the seven. I would take that price, the seven you put that.

Well, and then the 49ers lost to the Texans today. And I felt this was one of the ones I liked the most this week because I thought the Niners really smoking mares that last week. And you could do that for a week when you don't have any guys on defense, but then you can just look at the tape and see what they did and go, Oh, they're doing this. Okay. Stroud looked really good. Wasn't getting any pressure at all. Didn't have Nico Collins. There was a lot of Woody Marks. He had his young receivers, but he just looked like the Stroud from two years ago again. And San Francisco's defense did not look salvageable to me. And yet I still think they're going to make the playoffs. They're five and three, and I think they can get probably four more wins, maybe five, but they'll be in the nine or 10 range.

Well, how many more injuries do they suffer? I guess if McCafee went out, who's bulletproof at this point? As long as McCaffee doesn't go out, what are we looking at here with San Francisco?

Because I feel McCaffee is the only one. Yeah.

Yeah. But the defense with Huff out.

Maybe somebody in the offensive line?

I mean, they allowed 475 yards and they gained 223. Mccafee did almost nothing. I still would say they're a playoff team because the NFC is weak, but you're right. I mean, Stroud through to nine guys, and that really did look like rookie C. J. Stroud.

Yeah, though, But Jalen Noel, I like. I think they might have something in them. And I've liked Woody Marks. I've had him on all my fantasy teams for a couple of weeks, waiting for the moment. It feels like there's five or six guys with the exact same body on different teams, and I have most of them. But it's Kamani Vidal, R. J. Harvey, Woody Marks, Trevian Henderson. There's just a certain prototype running back.

Are you looking at their bodies?

No, they're like these 5'9, 5'10 power, speed, that can catch the ball out of the backfield. There's just all over the place now in the league. I think Harvey might be my favorite out of all of them. In Denver, I unleashed him a little bit today, but it just feels like- I didn't like him that much today, but yeah, I could see why he might be a fan. I'm sorry about that. That was tough for you. Anyway, Houston got back into it. Kitchens in game for them. They're not going to catch Indianapolis because I don't think anybody is, but I think they could still...

Well, I wonder what they are. They were minus 400 to make the playoffs.

Houston was? Before the year?

No, before this week. And now they are... Wait, I'm sorry. Houston was minus 400 to make To not make it. To not make it. To not make it. To not make it. Sorry. And now I can't even find them. Why would they take them off? Is there an injury? Probably because of the plus 260. Plus 260 to make it. I don't know about that.

So who are your seven in the AFC then. If you give me Buffalo and the Pats, one AFC North team, Indianapolis, Denver and KC, that's five. So then you'd have the Chargers would be lurking.

You don't want to give three to the West?

That would be the Chargers would be probably the number one pick. I think so. Maybe there's going to be a bad AFC team is what's actually how it's going to play out, I think. It'll be like Jacksonville.

If it's three in the west and you get two in the east, then you just have the division champs from the north and south. Oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah.

You're always better at this thing.

Oh, man.

So the chargers would be the seventh then?

Yeah, I would think so. I mean, you should start thinking about who you want to play here. I tried to get you going last week, but you're like, No, we're getting a buy. I'm like, All right, whatever. But if you don't get a buy, you'd rather have the chargers come to Foxborough than than Denver, right?

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Ten and-Including Thursday, 10 and 2? If you include Thursday, yeah. Ten and 2.

And didn't last week, the favorites crushed?

It was the same. It was nine and two.

I don't know what we're starting from. What's going on? What is happening?

What's going on? We're making money. Why are we questioning it?

I don't trust this now. The favorites are basically 20 and 4 on Thursdays and Sundays.

Yeah. I don't want to say anything because they've fixed it a little bit, as I guess the lines prematurely. Not good. But yeah, it looks like everyone's supposed to win this winning. And yet, I don't know. It's just probably because there's nine bad quarterbacks out there.

Well, we had seven blowouts, and the only one where the underdog blew out somebody was the Dolphins over the Falcons, where we thought... We did the pod last week. We thought McDaniel was done. He wasn't. They came back. They actually ran the ball. Tua was dying. It's another one you had to see it. At one point, Tua, a pass gets tipped in the air, and it's up. It's almost like a jump ball. Two Falcons defenders, they're arguing over who should intercept it, and they crash into each other and they drop it. But it was just one of those games. Then there was another one where Bijam Robinson is basically running the ball. Was it either into the end zone or inside the five? And his knee hits the ball as he's running, and he causes his own fumble. So you had that one. It was just one of those games. But it did seem like McDaniel is going to keep his job. Tua still looks like Tua. But anyway, blowout.

Mcdaniel should keep his job past Halloween. I mean, it's his favorite. It's got to be his favorite holiday, right? But so that's a poetic justice.

The glasses alone. He could try different glasses every day.

Fake glasses.

So blowout day. The Broncos killed your team. Bo'nicks Who threw for four touch downs, but also had his typical two over throws of wide open guys on bombs. I don't know what he's batting on those bombs, but he's got to be like two for 55 this year. Your defense just looked awful. But what was interesting, Dak wasn't good. That was the first rocky Dack game of the year, right? You've watched all of them.

He was due for that, something like that. Every facet of this team was bad. The defense, the play calling, Schoenheimer. Who's that? Big John Stud?

Yeah, Big John Stud.

Rest in peace.

Yeah. Legend.

Could you slam him? Would you take that $15,000?

I could slam Small John Stud. Yeah, not Big John Stud.

Okay.

But yeah, Dack sucked.

It was bad. And I don't know why a few of my cowboy fan friends love them this week. I was like, Guys, you know how this goes, right? Rahim was one of them. I had some other buddies that I was like, They're like, No, we're going to win this plus three and a half. That's a steal. I was like, Have you seen our defense? Did you see it two weeks ago against the Panthers? And I think people misinterpreted that Denver game against the Giants. To me, I came out of that like, Well, Denver was lucky, but also they scored 33 fucking points in the fourth quarter. And now they have to go up against my defense, right? So whether Bo Nicks figures it out in the first quarter, second or third, and then they just ran over everything. I mean, you saw your R. J. Harvey guy. So when you don't have a run defense, that's always fun. But yeah, they were bad.

I had a lot of Denver stuff, as you know, for the futures with overs and number one seed stuff and alt overs to win the division. Today was the first day I thought they might actually get to 12 wins. They're six and two, which is hard to believe because I don't even think they've been really that happy with how consistent they've been, especially on defense. But right now I have them with four legitimate wins, zero legitimate losses in four either or games. And they're going at Texans, Home Riders, Home Chiefs, at Commanders on a Sunday night, which might be like a shit game now, right? Because Washington might have been thrown away the season by then. At the Riders in 14, Home Packers, Home Jags, at Chiefs, home chargers. A schedule that just looked a lot harder than I think it does now. They're at the Texans next week. Maybe no Nico Collins, maybe he comes back. That's not going to be an easy game, but But yeah, I think 12 wins is conceivable for them, like a 12 and 5.

I mean, I'd be very surprised if they didn't make the play. I'd be much more surprised if they didn't make it than if the chargers didn't make it. Both teams blew out their opponents this week. So I think we could compare them equally But they're minus three, 55 to make the playoffs. They're too good. I think that defense is one of... I don't know if there's a scarier defense. People were against them. They had 15 sacks in three games before today. They constantly pressure the quarterback. And that's why Dak was rattled and had to take off more than he needed to. And that's going to screw with some of the bad quarterbacks they have coming up. And everybody does. Everybody's going to play between three. Your team will play all 18 bad quarterbacks, but But, yeah, everybody is going to play between three and five.

We did that before this season. That was the case for them.

I know. It's so easy. You know the Pats?

We have seven cross-off teams, if you include Cleveland, which I think is the new cross-off team.

Yeah.

So the cross-off teams are the Jets, Browns, Tennessee, Miami, New Orleans, Vegas, and Cleveland. None of those teams are making the play.

We didn't have Cleveland last week?

No, we added them right now. That's good.

That's seven. Yeah, that's fine.

The Pats have played six of the seven, and we're five and one against the seven cross-off teams.

I was thinking about it today. Would you trade the Pats schedule? If someone else could play the Pats schedule, would somebody trade it for a second-round pick coming into this year. And I know people like, what the schedules are made years in advance. Yes, except for seven games. You don't know if you're playing the fourth-place team in the three AFC divisions or the NFC outside of it. But they're good. I'll I'll give you everything. I kickstarted maybe again today by tweeting something stupid.

What did you tweet? I missed it.

When he threw the interception, I posted the video and wrote, The B is back. B-e. And then he made me P-A-Y, big time.

That Brown's defense is good. And he was under siege, and it was a really impressive Drake May game, especially in third quarter. Garrett was running them off. Garrett had five sacks. I know. May had the worst pass he's had since probably week three when he got picked early. And he just went in that mode. I've never seen a quarterback throw the deep ball better than this. He doesn't miss ever. Booter today, he had a step on the guy. But when we have a guy down the field and he's got a step, like May hits him in stride. It feels like 90 % of the time, not to mention all the other stuff, not to mention the running. And he's been so smart about not taking hits anymore and sliding and sliding two yards too early now instead of putting his head down. He's just trying to stay in the field and make him plays. And I think I watch all the social media stuff after the game, as you know. I like to have... This has been the best part of the season. They show, Vrabel stands in the runway and he high fives and hugs every guy coming off, and they show all of it.

And for some reason, it's riveting. Then the postgame speech stuff and then the press conference stuff. They really They believe in Drake as a special guy. They're starting to talk about it pretty openly. They're like, this guy's the MVP. This guy's amazing. If we have him, we got a chance. So I don't know. I don't know where this goes.

I don't know what to say either. You're right about all of it. When they show the stats where he has more 20 plus yard passes in a game than the other team has points. It's depressing. This shouldn't be happening for you. You should have a Cleveland-Brown situation.

We served our six-year penance.

Worst than middle and quarterbacks for 25 years. It's It's crazy. You get right back on the horse like this.

I think it's crazier that there was such adamant debate about him heading into that draft.

Yeah. So yeah, I know. The hens and everybody redrafting.

No, but some people heading into that draft, some people are like, this guy is going to be a bust. This guy is like, Mitch Trubisky. He has the tools. He's not going to be able to put together. I was all in. I was all in on him, but he's way better than I thought. To be this good at this age with this few games and to be this dramatically better than you were a year ago when you had no coach, no weapons, no blocking. They don't have the greatest blocking, but it's okay. The weapons are better, and he's just way smarter about everything. What could I say?

He would have had 700 yards against the Steelers today.

I hope you won money on him today, at least.

No, I did because they were the second half bet. They were definitely that. That was the way to play it, I thought. They were rock solid, and he's great. I don't even know. The fact that you moved on from Mac Jones, other teams would have stayed with him another seven years, and he's fine, but that's what you would have had. You would have had fine.

He was sacked six times, and he had a bad pick, and it just didn't matter. He's third for MVP. Now, it's like a three-man race for MVP. There's no Jonathan Taylor momentum. Although I think this week it'll be the talking point because it was a pretty boring week for the most part. So the next 48 hours will be about, why can't Jonathan Taylor be the MVP? I'm telling you guys, Jonathan, and it's just not happening. Running backs don't win the MVP, and he's not going to win the MVP. And he could have two touch downs every game, which is basically what he's doing. It's not going to happen. He's not winning MVP.

He's got the Barkley buzz from last year, right? In terms of the running back that's-In some years, you and I have fallen for it, and we've done the segment, but I'm not doing it anymore.

They don't win. No, I don't think they win.

I will say this, when they kept showing the stat, this is the first time a running back has had three consecutive games with three plus touch downs against the same team. I would be like, Shut up. I don't want people to know that I'm just beating up on the Titans here. I'm doing good things otherwise. But to your point about Drake May, could this be like a Russell Westbrook year where they give it to not a top two seed? I mean, we're due for that, aren't we? And the same guys win over and over. We saw Mahomes had 15 wins last year and didn't get any votes. I know his stats weren't good, but I think the Bills can win the division and Drake May can win MVP. I really do. I think that's in the cards right now.

Well, the question for me is why couldn't they be a one or a two seed with their schedule? They're six and two. So could they go seven and two the rest of the way or six and three gets them to twelve and five?

Yeah, sure.

It's conceivable. I'll be interested. When's the trade deadline? It's coming up, right?

Yeah, I think it's... Was it the week after Halloween or was it that? Yeah, it's right around there.

I'll be interested to see if they mess with the team because I think the chemistry is great. All of them are talking about like, they play for each other. We love each other. It's one of those teams. And I think it's legit. A lot of it has to do with the guys Brable went after in the offseason. He went after all these character dudes like Spalane and Matt Collins and just these guys that and they draft Will Campbell, all these just teammate guys. And I don't know if they're going to mess with that. But I still feel like The offensive line, that would be the thing that I think sinks them ultimately. Because they just have these stretches where they just feel like they're under siege. And May has been so good. He's been hiding some of it, but that would be my biggest fear.

If you get a veteran lineman in there. I don't think it's going to crush team chemistry. I think you'll be fine. Can we talk about somebody else now?

Let's talk about your team.

Wait, we did. What are you talking about? We did.

Now, blowout number three was Eagles Giants. Okay, good. Poor Skatebu. Can't the Giants fans have nice things? Do they have to pay for the sins of the two Super Bowl that never should have won for the rest of their lives? This is just how it goes for them now. It's not their fault that their team won one Super Bowl because of a home of catch and the other because of an intentional grounding in the end zone that's never been called before since and 19 other terrible calls. Then Eli makes his one throw to Manihan. That's somehow going to get him in the Hall of Fame. We had Gronk playing with whatever his injury was. Even I feel bad for the Giants fans now.

Yeah, I don't... Do we have them as a cross-off? We didn't have them last week, did we? They're a cross-off.

We have seven cross-offs. We have Jets, both New York teams.

Yeah.

Oh, I don't have them as a cross-off yet.

No, I don't think we did. We didn't have them because they weren't... We thought they had some juice. Yeah, and it's not their fault.

No more.

Things will be different. They'll be good next year, right? With Skatebo, neighbors, if Jackson Dart doesn't kill himself, I think they'll be good. But I'm not going to complain about the push-push. There was 180-yard difference in the game, and the Eagles had 10 more first downs. But for God's sakes, Are they just going to wait until everyone outside of Philly throws a remote through their television to get rid of this dumb thing? It's not placeable. What are they doing? It's got to go. It's got to go.

I hate it.

No one can win the division, otherwise.

I got to push back on your Giants thing a little bit. What is it? Because I think it's been a fun story. People like Darb, people like Skatebu, Nabors comes back next year. They have a good pass rush. They have one of the worst run defenses in the recent history of the league. They were given up five to a game before the game today, and today they gave up, I don't know, seven. But for all this money and capital and draft pick stuff that they've spent on this front four, you can just ram it down their throats. Now, their linebackers are terrible. And I was thinking, it's It's almost like you hire the best chef ever for your restaurant, and then you just get cheap with the waiters and the bus boys. And that's what they've done with the linebackers and the D-backs. It's like, cool, you have an awesome chef. Your servers are just dropping the food every time they bring the food out to the table. So congrats.

Well, they're not geniuses. They're not geniuses. We saw the hard knocks or whatever that was called in the workings of the GM and stuff. So, yeah, they maybe even locked into how good or talented they are right now. But right now, the only thing Giants fans, the only saving Grace is you could watch Brian Dayball, who's just hilarious on the sidelines. Every time they go to him, he's pulling a Kistanza, just getting freaked out, pissed off. They can't fire me. Look how mad I am. And it gets better and better and better. Hiding the headset.

He should start stress eating during the games. They just cut to him and he's just like, fucking eating French fries and bright red, going nuts. The Saquon roller coaster for fantasy owners breaks off the long breakdown. You feel like he's headed for the 300-yard game, then gets the groin injury in the third quarter. So that happened. But anyway, they played two weeks ago. The Giants improbably beat them in another dumb Thursday night game, which we've just had a slew of. So it seemed pretty realistic that the Eagles were going to get the revenge.

A lot of people like taking the seven and a half today, but I'm like, all right, you believe in the revenge factor for Aaron Rodgers for leaving a team he They threatened to leave 25 times, but you don't believe it in Philadelphia two weeks later, the better team. But I think the thing is, Philly, if we want to talk about Philly for a second, their differential is plus five going in, right? And now they're six and two. As far as the six and two and five and three teams, I don't put them at the top of the list of the teams I trust. I'll say that.

Yeah. So we have Indy seven and one. We have New England, Denver, Philly, Tampa, Seattle, and the Rams as our 6-2 teams.

What's Green Bay? Did you say Green Bay?

Or the Rams, I guess, are 5-2. I think I screwed that up. Oh, and then Green Bay is 5-1-1 because they tied your stupid team. It's interesting. Denver, Seattle, and New England are my three favorite overs.

You're going to get there.

I could get there with all of them. Get there by Christmas. You mentioned the defenses before. Seattle, I think, has a defense that stands out. Houston, Denver, Cleveland at home. I don't think they can do it on the road. Is there any other defense you like? It's it, right? Houston's defense is really good. I thought they were good Monday night. I thought they were really good today.

Cowboys are pretty good. No, that's it. Jacksonville, it might have been a lot of bells and whistles, right? I mean, another team that just forced turnovers, but it might be catching up to them, though.

Maybe the Chiefs will see when they get... As the season goes along, they always go. Another blowout, Bills Panthers. Look, Buffalo hadn't kicked anyone's ass in seven weeks, and this was the... I actually like the Panthers for Ringer 107. House talked me out of it, pointed out how the Buffalo was coming off two losses in a bye week. We talked it out. It was good conciliaria stuff from House. The legacy of this game, somehow Andy Dalton was worse than Kirk Cousins, and Kerr Cousins was bad. Andy Andy Dalton was worse. That might have been it. I could see him... That could be the last start for him.

The only thing he can't do here is take a sack. Oh, and he takes a sack. Oh, he did.

Yeah, that's it. Two fumbles. He had a really bad pick. He just was bad. They were hanging around in this game for about an hour, and it just wasn't going to happen.

Yeah, we should have made all our money off this game, right? There's not a better spot for a playoff team having lost twice, coming off a buy. And here's Andy Dalton for them.

Bucks Saints was a blowout because of nothing that the Bucks offense did. Baker finally had a bad fantasy game. I think his MVP run. It's not dead, it's in a coma. But somehow, they're six and two with a buy coming. Rattler, so he was awful again. Six turnovers in his final three-halves as Saintz QB, and they finally turned it over to Shuck.

He's a final three-halve. It probably is. His final three-halves.

Final three-halves. I don't think we see him again unless there's an injury. But yeah, that was another one. Just stay away. Don't bet this game.

I was hoping Tyler Shuck would do something there. Throw a countdown at the end. Just so we could Just have something with New Orleans. Have some fun with their name. Who's the group that roots for Tyler Shuck? Is it the Shuckheads or the Mother Shuckers or the Shuck Buddies?

Mother Shuckers.

Yeah.

I like the Shuckheads.

Shuckheads. We'll see if he's even around.

It was a really awful early slate.

That was late afternoon, right?

Well, yeah, I'm saying, but there was a really awful early slate. And I was like, well, maybe the late slate would be better. And then the late slate was bad, too. Early slate There were seven games. I had the multi-view and two other TVs, so I had six. I didn't care about Jetspangle. So I'm like, that's the sacrifice.

That's exactly the one I took all.

And that turned out to be the best game.

You had to get it back on, right?

Yeah, that That's the best one. For sure.

And then Indy, Tennessee somehow ended up as a four o'clock game. That snuck in. Should have been a London game. Not even London, were they? What's a terrible city and Coventry or something?

The first Scotland game ever. Yeah.

Yeah. It would have been good.

Terrible. Let's talk about that Colts game because that's their fifth blowout win. Like, real blowouts, where the game is done in the third quarter, blowouts. And It just feels like they're answering every challenge you would have for, Can you actually be the one seed? The long balls. I didn't even think Jones played that well for the first part of the game today, but Taylor was great. Pierce had his one long play. Pierce is the most interesting deep threat. We're talking about today watching the games, where it's almost like in basketball, when a point guard gets into the paint, has somebody on their hip, and then they lean in and they use their body. They use that step they have on the guy to keep the momentum, and they'll either get a foul or an N1. Pierce will do that on a 45-yard pass. He'll get a step on a guy. He'll veer into the guy's path. He'll slow up a little bit. He'll also make the catch. But he's the most unconventional deep threat in the league. And then Warren on top of everything else. They just have a lot of weapons. I'm sold on them as a one seed.

Yeah, I like them a lot, too. And you know what? We I didn't put too much praise on any team that just beat up on the Titans. But they took care of business. Very good. No, they did. Jonathan Taylor should have been minus 600 to score today. He's just excellent. I wanted to say something about the Titans' coach. They're down 17-7, and they punt on fourth and four from the 44, Mike McCoy. Now, even if you want to punt there, what is the downside of going for it? If you want to keep this job, don't you want a three or four plays Where you're, yeah, I converted the fourth and fourth. They show them on the sideline. So what if you don't convert? You're not going to be there and then getting calling plays next year. Take a chance. It's not even a chance, fourth and fourth from the 44. Draw them off sides.

It was awful. Kim Ward was mad about it. So they play at the Stealers next week. Home Falcons, this is the Colts. Home Falcons, by week at the Chiefs, Home Texans. And that Falcons game is in Berlin, just FYI. I like the Stealers game as a test for them at Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh doing all their dumb tricks. Pittsburgh needs the game. You figured Baltimore is going to win. There's going to be a little pressure, finally, on Pittsburgh. They're going to be playing all the hits, Bosmo will be hitting his 59-yard field goals. There'll be some stupid Aaron Rodgers tip pass that will go for 40 yards. Taylor or somebody will have some fumbling. It'll be all the check marks you need. And I want to see how they respond. I want to see what Daniel Jones looks in that game.

I think so, too. But I won't count them out even if they lose this. You read their schedule.

No, I'm just saying it's a nice test.

There's not one team they should be scared of at this point.

Well, are they favored every game the rest of the year except for at Chief's week 12?

Well, I'm not going to give you a freebie. I'm not going to give you a freebie this week and tell you if they're favored or not. All right, that's fair. You tell me.

That's fine. I think they could be favored. By the way, they could even be favored in that Chief's game. Stranger Things Have Happened. Anyway, they took care of business, and And then we talked about Dolphins. And then the last one was Jets' Bangle. It's just a lot. It had probably the most story lines of all the games. Jets' owner takes a shot at Justin Fields. He played pretty well from what I read because I refused to watch this until the last four minutes. Aaron Glenn got off the schneid. Zack Taylor maybe threw in his hat in the next coach fired ring.

I mean, that was as bad a call as any. I mean, 38 seconds left, they still need what? 18, 20 yards to get in field goal range at the end. That first down calls right up the middle for a no game. And I think they didn't have three. They had two timeouts, I think. So, yeah, he's always in the ring. I just think like, Burrow saves this guy every time.

And that one run they had, I think people just look back and point to. Right. Which I don't know how long he gets to ride on that one. But, yeah, look, we say this all the time. That could have been one where If you're a Jets fan, maybe you wish he didn't win that game in January. You're like, Why are we three and 14 and we don't have the number on pick?

Oh, well, you got to get that. You got to get it for Aaron Glenn. You got to have to get a win before Thanksgiving. It's crazy. The fact that he went for it down, what was it? It was 38, 24, and he went for two, right? And he got it to get it there. And barely got it, by the way. I still haven't seen a replay where he definitively got it, but that was a great fields' play. Even fields were very emotional in the press conference afterwards. Good for the Jets. Now they can go back to being the Jets.

Really good postgame speech from a comedy standpoint by Glenn, which, of course, I watched. He started out and he's like, First of all, how about that defense? It was like, With that big stop. It was like, Well, you gave up 38 points. Thirty-nine, 38. And then he's like, In our offense, yards. We're like, And. And he's like, This is who we are. This is our identity, what you saw today. It's like, I don't know. Maybe you also should have lost by 10. I really like this. How about our defense? Yeah, you did get a stop. He got one stop.

It's rough. I mean, what's the convert? He goes in there. He was like, Man, we are so lucky. We should be 0 and 15. How do we pull this one out? We're so terrible.

I I think it should be like when you're on a bad AYSO team or a bad Little League team. It's like, Everyone's getting an ice cream. He's got 11-year-olds.

So proud of you guys. A poker tournament when you're beat 98 to 2%, but you pull a flush on the last three cards, and the guy who wins is like, Sorry. Sorry about that. Like that. Yeah, he apologizes for the win. A tennis player, it hits the net and barely goes So over like, yeah, they hit the racquet. We're good.

Would you learn from that Chargers Viking Thursday net game? Anything?

I love the Chargers in that spot. I don't know. I learned that the Vikings, so I think they're plus 770 to make the playoffs now, and they really have nowhere to go because now you're looking at JJ McCarthy, and you covered it last week, what injury is this anyway? And you don't have anything to look forward to after once, really, right?

Pretty tough. Regular season MVP, Mahomes, plus 150, Allen, plus 350, Drake, now plus 450. Everybody else is 12 to one or higher. And then Super Bowl ads, Chief still the favorites, Lyons, Bills, Packers, Eagles, Colts down 11: 01, but still have not gone in a single digits yet, which I thought was strange. From a value standpoint, the pats are 33 to one and really have a chance to be a two seed. It's just that that seems too high. I don't think they're going to win the Super Bowl, but I think if you can get anybody who can possibly be a two seed at 33 to one, it has to be considered. And then Seattle at 25 to one was the other one that jumped out to me. What's Baltimore now?

That also seemed too high. 22? Baltimore was 25. They're 22 now after the win. That's interesting, too. Maybe if they're actually favored to win the division, get their shit together. But I think as far as those odds, An MVP, your guy, your team, and your guy, is the only ones that are going to shrink considerably.

Because the case for it is, and I don't want to jinks it, I'm obeying all jinksing laws.

The case is people haven't looked at your freaking schedule, and then they're just going to see the wins rack up.

It's the schedule, but it's also the history of the league with the young QBs. We've seen this happen. And if he's really special, if there's something really, really special there, we've seen that translate into, Oh, my God, I can't believe they're here this fast. It happened with Burro, it happened with Mahomes recently. If he's on that level, it's realistic that they could at least get to the AFC title game because he's that good. I don't know if he's that good, but he certainly checked every box.

You put him number five. You put him number five right now, best quarterback. And you don't even want to put Burrow ahead of him at this point.

I think he's playing the best of anyone at that position right now. I don't know if that means he's the best quarterback, but I've just watched it for five straight weeks. He completes 75 to 80% of his passes. He runs for first downs whenever he wants, and he completes every deep ball. I don't know what else you can do as the quarterback. He doesn't miss throws, really, ever. When he misses a throw, you're surprised. His teammates love him. I don't know what's going on. It doesn't make a lot of sense because even week one, that Vegas game, he was not good. And it was like, fuck, did we go backwards? What's going on here? And now in week eight, he looks like a finished product. I know he's not. He's 23, 22?

Discounting the past, right?

Yeah.

Would you rather have Daniel Jones or Drake May? Forget about what you know about Daniel Jones before this year. Before, if you forget about it, what you knew, the Giants, Daniel Jones. Because you can make the same case or everything you said about Drake May, Daniel Jones is doing it, too. Maybe not a deep throw.

He looks great. Daniel Jones looks great.

Yeah.

Yeah, May, it just It looks a lot like some of those other great guys when it just happens early. I mean, going way back to when we were kids, Elway, what was that? Year three or year four, all of a sudden they were in the AFC title game, and it was like, Jesus, we're here already? Moreno got there as a rookie in Miami. If a really great quarterback, if it happens early, it's not unusual.

That would be the case. Take a look at Elway stats this first few years, even when everyone thought he was great. It's always like 22 touch down, 17 interceptions. You're not going to see that at a drink. I shouldn't have engaged you in this. This is my fault.

No, but here's the thing about those stats, because I've looked at those. It's so unfair to compare them versus now because you could beat the shit out of those guys. Well, you beat their shit, the receiver. But you could kill the quarterback after they threw it. You could dive at their legs. They're navigating their livelihood at the same time as they're trying to win games. And now these guys even saw today, there was... What was that time? Who got hit? Love was in Sunday Night Game. Love got hit a little bit on the head as he threw, and he was looking at the ref like this, like that. The football we grew up with, these guys were getting violated.

Yeah, you couldn't come. You can't come near the head anymore.

You couldn't throw over the middle. You had to fear for your life. Guys were trying to pile drive you in the ground. I look at those Oasis stats. I'm like, that's amazing that he even was able to play 16 games a year, whatever it was. Yeah.

Can we before we go on, because you mentioned love and it made me think of this, the replay assist thing, I don't buy it. I don't think it's even a real thing. I don't think it's a real thing. I think the reps get together and they be like, We fucked up this call. Let's pretend some ominous voice came in and told us that they don't even have to go to replay. And then that doesn't make us look bad. It doesn't make us look good. We'll just move on immediately. I think that's what it is. It doesn't exist. They just called something else. Interesting.

It's like they're just doing a little mini podcast.

Yeah. One of the refs rolled his eyes to the other refs, and he was like, Okay, that's all right. You're right.

That wasn't bad. That offsides play when they gathered together after that?

Yeah, that would have been bad.

Who is it? Pereira was like, Yeah, I've never seen this before. They called belated offsides. There's no way. Guess the line's week eight. I am up 4: 00 to 3: 00?

Don't worry about it. 5: 03. It's week nine.

Oh, week nine, 5: 03. Thursday night, Ravens at Miami.

Hey, can I say something? You did that well. People were complaining, like important people that listened to this show, that you're not saying who the home team is and who the road team is. That time you did it.

Good job by you. That's bullshit. I say it all the time. These people can fuck off.

Oh, my God. If I would have told you who is former President Obama actually put in the complaint and you're telling him to fuck off. No, it's But okay, you did good there. That's it. That's how you do it.

If it was Gavin Newsom, he could fuck off again. Ravens Miami at Miami. I couldn't have crammed this harder and more violently into the Vegas zone. I have Ravens minus five and a half.

You're going to win this week. I'm telling you right now, I was so off on these. I said five, it's seven and a half.

Oh, that's too high.

Well, too many favorites are covering.

So they have to- It's a Thursday night game, though.

They have to cover themselves. Yeah, that's true.

That's too high for a Thursday night. Lamar is just going to waltz back in after during a whole whatever scandal, injury report scandal. I still don't understand the scandal. Sunday Marquee, we finally have a Sunday Marquee game. Bills Chiefs, it's in Buffalo.

Good one.

Tictac, Bill's minus one and a half.

How does that Sounded good to me. It's exactly what I said. It's Chiefs minus one and a half.

Oh, wow.

It's TicTac, all right. But that's going to flip, right? Six times between now and next talk?

The Bills had their delinement all back, finally. And they were actually having an impact against the Panthers runningbacks. And then Ed Oliver got hurt. It lasted like an hour and a half. And then Ed Oliver got hurt. I'm trying to think what would be the best overreactions Coming out of this Chiefs Bills game. Chiefs win over action as Mahomes is back. It's been Mahomes's League all along. Anyone who said Alan was the best QB, you must feel fucking stupid. Why did we doubt the Chiefs several? Let's never do that again.

Yeah.

Bills win. This is Josh Allen's League. He's outplayed Mahomes for the last two years. This rivalry is flipping. It's like the Patriots, Colts in the mid 2000s, when all of a sudden the Colts started being the Patriots. What else?

Chiefs have trouble scoring. I imagine if they lost, it would be like 23, 20 or something. Take too long to score, all that shit. These receivers didn't actually pan out. The ones that came back, everything.

Chris Jones getting old. Yeah. He's not the impact guy that he was two years ago. Yeah, this would be good. There'd be some good overreactions.

Teller, bad voodoo. Yeah, all of it.

The watchables. Would you put Pats in New England against the Falcons? A A watchable or a fairly watchable?

Are we done with them? I would have put Indy Pittsburgh as what's before fairly watchable.

I think that's it. No, I had three watchables, including Pats Falcons, but I don't know if that was a watchable just for me.

I think just for you. You could watch it if you want.

You know what? I'm going to move it to fairly watchables. Trying to obey. You know it is watchable. Colts at Pittsburgh, which would have been the Sunday Marquee game in a lot of other weeks.

Yeah, it's in the early slate, too.

So packers were favored by three in Pittsburgh this week. I think the Colts are a point better than the packers. I'm going to go Colts minus four.

Oh, wow. I thought they were a point worse power rating-wise. I said two, and it's two and a half. Let me see if that's changed. Oh, it's three now. Shit. I can't catch a break. So we pushed? We pushed. Yeah. I could have lied there. I think that's fair. That's right because- I like the Colts.

Unless we haven't had it yet, the Daniel Jones, oh, no, game. It's lurking in there. It's deep down in the recesses of his cells and his DNA. It's somewhere in there.

Well, I'll tell you what the Stealers need. They need some weather and they need it fast. If it's going to be clean pockets and just brisk air at the end of October. I don't know if they could... Daniel Jones should have a good game. They need some of those 18, 16 games to come back.

Bronco's home. Oh, no. Bronco's at Houston Austin. As we said, probably two of the three best defenses, two of the best four defenses. And I have the Broncos favorite, and I think it's in the Tic-Sac zone. I'm going to go Broncos minus one and a half.

I said Broncos minus two. It is Broncos minus one and a half.

I thought that was a pretty easy one.

Good call.

Does that go to two and a half by Sunday?

I think if anything moves, it's the over-under, which is 39 and a half, which in this day and age-Comes down? Yeah, I think it's one of the few that will go down after... By the way, a lot of the overs hit today, too, right? Was that also nine and two? Yeah.

That's a really good game. I mean, that could be the 2-7 Shakey's game. 2-7.

2-7. Denver.

That could be our 2-7.

Denver, home for Houston. Houston.

Yeah. Right.

Let's just see a good version of Houston. Can we do that? Can we see that two weeks in a row?

Fairly watchable. It's Patriot's home for the Falcons. And no idea if Pennex is playing. I think this has to go past the minus four into the The Vegas zone. And I have Pat's minus four and a half.

All right. That's what I had, and it's five and a half.

Oh, still in the Vegas zone. Okay.

You should be a seven-point favorite, probably. Really, if you think about it.

I'm kicking a crap at everyone. Pat's Money Line was something in the seven range. Call it a day.

Yeah. You could use the Chief's again just because it's Monday, just because it's a different week, technically.

Oh, do the look at it.

So who are the Teaser teams that killed people today? It was the-Just the Falcons. And the Bangles, right? If you had the...

That was like six and a half. Anyone putting the Bangles in a tease, you need their head exam.

It's an insane behavior. The Jets didn't have a lot of wins before today.

I know, but you can't put the bangles in a tease.

That's nuts. But those are the only two, I think. Yeah.

So there's a really interesting pat stat. Their run defense hasn't given up over 50 yards rushing yet in the first eight weeks, and it hasn't happened since 1950.

Wait a minute.

Nobody can run on them.

A 50-yard rusher, you're saying? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Since 1950.

Wow.

And I mentioned that because Bijan is coming in, week nine, coming off a bad game that he was pissed off about. And the quotes after were like, that one's on me. Right. I got to do better. So it'll be an interesting Rock in a hard place battle Because the Pat's defense has been awesome against the run. The way to beat them is to throw in their linebackers, put Spalane in open space, try to get running backs or tight ends over the middle or running backs leaking out of the back. That's been the weakness, but you can't run on them.

You just jinked the bejianis out of them, I think. So I'm going over here what we have. Well, I wonder what his total will be.

Any wheel route with him one on one against Spalane is going to end badly. And I'll just tell you, our crazy friend, Hinch, eight weeks, probably 135 text about Robert Spalane in past coverage. What? Yeah. Basically, any time he's in past coverage, it's a three text barrage from Hinch.

It's hard when you have a bodybuilder, you're trying to guard, third down running back. Well, just enjoy it, Hinch. For God's sakes, this is as good as it gets for an NFL team.

This is about as Zen-like as he's been. We went from not having a QB or a coach to have me a QB and a coach. The only two things that matter in the NFL is having me a QB and a coach. You can find everything else.

If Cousins plays, could this go to seven?

I mean, it should.

They don't have a chance. They don't have a chance.

No Jake London today, but I bet he plays next week, right? Yeah, that's true. Lyons home, Detroit against the Minnesota Vikings. Either Carson Wentz, who's been pounded like a piece of veal the last couple of weeks, or the immortal JJ McCarthy, who's recovering from the longest high ankle sprain in recorded history. This could be our teaser game with the pats. I have Lyons minus eight.

Yeah, Well, they're not going to let us tease it the way we want to do it. I said seven and a half. It's nine and a half.

Now, that's dumb.

You win that one, too. You're up 6-3.

That's too high. And I wouldn't take Minnesota.

No, I know. But first of all, this is the only division game. Isn't that weird? When was the last time we had one division game in a week, in a whole week? It was four teams off. But anyway. And for that reason, I thought they give them the division discount, where everybody plays everybody else. Well, so this is pretty damn high. Vandals given up on Minnesota here.

You know, House and I, we did Ringer 107 last week or Thursday, and we're talking about that Jets line, the Jets-Bengos line, which was just stupid. The Bango should have been I heard by three and a half, and it was six and a half because it was the Jets, right? So if you take the Jets, you're just getting three free points. And I was thinking that's a good just concept in general. What's the three free points bet? Where they're just like, this is on a discount today. It's a flash sale. The Vikings normally at six and a half, we're giving them today at plus nine and a half for the next 24 hours.

First 100 customers. Oh, damn. I was at 101.

Three free points.

I got to take a different line.

Vikings plus nine and a half is a three free points bet. That's a flash sale. They shouldn't be getting that many points.

So the problem with the three free points thing is I get what you're saying, but now you're back in a shitty quarterback every single time. That's where the three points are going to go.

But that's why we have the flash sale. It's like in the criterion collection, it's like 50% off our entire collection right now.

Carson Lance is in the clearance bin right now. You want to grab him now?

It's Robert Altman's unknown movie. Packer Panthers in Green Bay. I'm going to change my pick on this. I had minus nine. I'm going to bump this because they looked at a good Sunday Night came to nine and a half.

No bumping allowed.

I bumped it by a half point. You win anyway.

I had eight and a half. It's ten and a half. There's a good old fashioned Bill and Sal go to college three-teamer.

I was thinking about that.

Yeah, there's one.

I was trying to think who would screw up Lyons-Packers with a third team. The glory Years of 2004.

So nice.

The best 12 weeks of our lives.

We'll get them back.

You, me, pooky, Black Tony, Albanian Bruce. We were just all cleaning up.

We had our glasses on.

We were just going nuts.

I want to congratulate us, you and I, for really not falling into, just not becoming true degenerates, right?

To be in one of those things, yeah.

Yeah, we bet and it hurts when we lose. We have enough money on it where it sucks when we lose and we come on and we're distraught and everything. But we never fell down that hole. And we had opportunities to align ourselves with some interesting people. And I'm sure Pablo Tori will reveal this Wednesday that we fixed a preseason Clippers game or something. But good job by us for keeping our heads above water.

Well, Thursday, 7: 40 AM, text from my mom. I hope you and Sal aren't involved in this NBA betting scheme, exclamation point.

Did you screw with her a little bit? Say, we need bail money?

I should have texted her back, I can't talk about this right now or just something on this. Mom, we have to take this I have a phone.

Call my friend Pookey right now at this number.

Mom, I'm with Black Tony. Let me get back to you.

Albanian Bruce is going to drive me over. There were two Bruce's, right? It was Albanian Bruce and there was the other Bruce.

I couldn't get enough of it. Yeah, there were two, but there was a Flappy. Yeah. I just couldn't get enough of the names.

The week the Bruce Springsteen movie comes out, what a week for Bruce's.

They really cleaned up. He couldn't just be Bruce. 49ers, Giants in New York.

Okay.

Yikes. Maybe Brock Purdy for this?

Yeah, you would think at some point.

I don't think I hit this. 49ers Niners, I had minus three and a half.

I get this. I said three, it is two and a half.

Yeah, I couldn't figure that one out.

Tough one.

Boy, the Giants just aren't Very good. I'm probably leaning toward Niners in that one.

Well, we crossed them off. So whenever we have a playoff team, we think the Niners are making the playoffs, right? And we crossed the Giants off. So just based on that, four Niners can't keep losing.

Last one is Ram Saints. I think this is going to be another flash sale. Oh, all right. I think this is a seven and a half, but I think we get three free points. I think it's Ram's minus ten and a half flash sale.

It is a sale even beyond your wildest dreams. What is it? Wait, so what's your official thing?

Minus ten and a half.

Okay, so you got... I said nine and a half. Thirteen and a half. Oh, wow.

What a sell.

50% off. You can't keep it on the shelves.

This is great. Do you want to combine that with a Blu-ray? Wow. Thirteen and a half.

The Shuckwagon's coming to town. What are you going to do? Coming to Sofi.

Do you think there would be Saints fans there? There's some New Orleans transplante, right? It's interesting.

Yeah, I think you might get a rare reprieve here in LA, where the Rams have more fans.

Poopfecta. Three games. First one bears at Cincinnati, which is lining up as Joe Flacko against the embattled Caleb Williams. Somebody's favorite by one and a half. I went with the bears. It might be the bangles. It's a one and a half for somebody.

Well, I'm not going to let you do that.

I have bears minus one and a half.

Oh, bears minus one and a half. Okay. I had Cincinnati minus one. You're going to get it. It's bears minus two and a half.

I don't agree with that.

What were the bears today?

Plus six and a half in Baltimore.

No.

It was plus two and a half.

Plus two and a half. This is a similar thing, I guess, right? But they were plus, I don't know. This is tough. I'm out on the bears, I think, for a while.

Chargers at Tennessee. It has to be a countdown. I think the pats were minus six in Tennessee. Chargers have to be minus seven. That's my pick. Chargers minus seven in Tennessee.

Another flash sale here. I get this. I said nine. It's ten and a half.

Oh, wow. You can get a free... What are those little What are the cards you put? Toaster? What are the cards we put? Flash card? Yeah, the flash cards.

Yeah, with this thing.

I could have landed that joke a lot better.

That's all right. Start it off. Oh, shit.

We're live. No, we're live. Fucking A.

Hey, who screws that up then? Green Bay over Carolina. Chargers over Tennessee. Oh, come on. If Harbaugh loses to this shit team.

I don't like those double digits on the road games.

No, it's fine. Double digits. We're taking 10 points off. We're good.

I went to the Lakers game on Friday against Mississippi. Soda. Herbert was there sitting under the basket with Madison beer. Oh, nice. And it was the day after they beat the Vikings. They showed him on the Jumbotron, mild applause. I just I don't think the chargers are resonating in LA yet. This guy's the star quarterback. He's one of the 10 best quarterbacks in the league, and he plays for an LA team. There's Justin Herbert. People are like...

They still think he's a college quarterback.

If they showed Flea, the place would have gone nuts. It was just interesting.

Did you see his Halloween photo?

Who? Justin Herbert? What is it?

I don't know. It's like a photo booth thing. Look it up, Justin Herbert, Halloween. Shit, I forget who the receiver is. That he's with, and he's with a woman. It's interesting. Take a look. You'll get a nice little laugh.

Can't wait. One more game in the poop fact that Jags at Vegas. And I think the Jags are going to be a favorite in this one, which would give us all three home underdogs in the Poopfecta. I have Jags minus two and a half.

Yeah, good call. I said five. Why was anyone given the Raiders two and a half? But It's three. You're closer. Man, you smoked me. You smoked me this week.

Raiders coming off a buy. Bauer is back. A little bit of a kitchen sink game for Vegas.

Yeah. That's all I can think of. I mean, if the only thing Jacksonville does right is force turnovers, it should be an easy one.

Sunday night is Seattle at Washington. No Jaden Daniels. House very bleak on the Ringer Sunday pregame today, talking about how... Very upset. First of all, he's quit our bet. He's already conceded the Patriots Washington bet. He was saying, Washington's three and... What was it? Three and four. We're going to be three and seven in three weeks. They should think about trading people, bench Daniels for a year, get them healthy. They shot their wide.

He bet them big time under six and a half. Just today, he bet them under six and a half.

Yeah, it was tough. It was tough to hear him just bailing Washington.

He should just listen to us preseason when we went against Washington with everything.

He did listen us, and he bet me on Washington versus the Pats.

That's true.

I have Seattle minus four at Washington.

Let me see if this moved. It is still three, and I had three and a half, so we split it. Oh, no. No, you win it. I get it. Okay. Yeah, I got to take the ones I actually got. You're up 10 to 6. Doesn't matter.

Monday night, Dallas home for Arizona, the Rod Tidwell Bowl. I love when Dallas and Arizona plays. Great times. Another tic-tac. I went with Dallas favorite in this one minus one and a half.

Wow. I hate my team, but I also think they deserve a little more praise than one and a half. I said four and a half, and it's three. So we split it, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

And you're going to hear all week about how Kyla Murray has never lost at AT&T Stadium. He played in college there. He played, I don't know, he snuck on there as a six-year-old and won some game. He's never lost there.

I want to flag something. So we talked about all the favorites winning covering this week and last week. Favorites are on a heater. I am counting home underdogs this week. Dolphins, Bills, Steelers, Texans, Giants, bangles, Titans, Raiders, Washington. That's a lot. Nine home dogs. I think this is an official Let's be careful week.

Oh, really? Yeah.

Favorite is just crushing. Everybody's confidence is up. All these home dogs, all stuff like chargers minus 10 and a half at Tennessee. Yeah, throw them in a three-teamer. I don't know. My shit detector is going off.

Well, you were better than me today, but even you were light on everything. They're juicing everything up. So it would make sense that it would come back the other way.

Flash sale for Halloween.

So many. Yeah. Halloween havoc.

How many people brought up the big NBA scandal to you over the last 2 hours.

Everyone I know. I had to explain it to them.

It really did pass the how many people are texting me that don't normally text me about sports. It really did cross the threshold. It was pretty funny.

I feel bad for you because you and House did a seven-hour preseason Over Under podcast, and the season didn't even last that long. Now they have to cancel the season. It's all over. Luka scores a billion points in two games, and here you are. But yeah, obviously this is bigger than anything we've dealt with in the past. But what are the ramifications? I'm doing the other way.

I feel like it's not as big as it felt like in the moment, the way it was presented, where they combine these two different stories. I think it's just starting dialog that probably should have been happening anyway. Some of the stuff house and I talked about Thursday night was just how careful these players have to be with information about themselves and their teams, giving it to people around them and just people making stupid decisions that are attached peripherally to these guys. And I don't know how you police that necessarily, but we certainly hear stuff all the time from all kinds of people, right? And you can act on it, you can not act on it, whatever. But when you're directly tied to a player and you're using information and selling it and leveraging, I think this is a real issue for the league. I was talking to people over the weekend about it, and It's going to take years to play out. But the thing that is fascinating is how quickly all the books can sniff it out where they know, oh, wait, what's going on with this under? They just know almost immediately that something's wrong, which I think is a good thing.

I think so, too. Hopefully, it acts as a deterrent. And people are like, no, the books have us, whether they're using AI or whatever, they're going to be able to snuff this out in a minute. But I also, and I think you've said this before, this is probably It's been going on for a while, right? But we just test for it now. It's like anything else. More kids probably had ADHD 30 years ago, too. But now we're all over that stuff. We're all over taking out and looking for player props. But the problem is there's always going to be one or two or five guys who are going to do it. Gambling is a real addiction. It might be guys like, I get it, they scratch off tickets, even though they've made $40 million just because they have the itch.

The The other thing is- They competitively want to game the system.

That's all right. The other part is guys get in trouble with some bad dudes, right? So if you made $40 or $40 million, if you're a billion in the hole and you owe the wrong guys and all your money is in cars and houses and jewelry, and you can't come up with a million liquid, they're going to ask you to play an under. They're going to ask you to miss some shots. It's how it is, and it sucks. And you might see some props go away as a result. And if that's That's what it is, so be it. I don't know.

Yeah, we talked about that Thursday night, how many of these unders we need. Do you need to have the under for longest Matthew Golden catch? Matthew Golden, longest catch under 15 and a half yards. Maybe those just go away. And maybe it steers more toward the overs and Jordan Love passing yards and the big players in each game, whether it's football, basketball, whatever. I've never the pitch by pitch baseball stuff.

Oh, that's insanity. Right. Even you don't do that. No.

Even you're not like, oh, the top of the eighth, I'm going to bet on a ball. That's the height of insanity. I can't think of a single scenario where I would do that.

I would do it if there was no way I was going to get caught and I knew my buddy was going to bounce the first pitch into the dirt. That's when I would do it.

But it's brother Brian was on the mount for the Dodgers. He's like, I'm going to ball top of the eighth.

This one's in the backstop. But I But you have to be smart about. I'm not going to tell criminals how to do their job. Don't not bet anything else and then just bet $7,000 at the first pitch is going to be a ball in the third in it. You're going to get busted.

Well, what you said about people being able to have pressure put on them because of losses, I think is something that's happened since the '50s and '60s. And this is why the illegal poker game thing, to me, is going to be a much bigger story than a couple of this betting. The couple of betting things versus how deep the poker stuff, because we both heard so many stories about these games. They have athletes and actors and musicians and billionaires, and They're all competitive. The games are all arranged. They always try to have the one person who's got money, who's famous, who thinks he can beat these guys, and the game is rigged against them. And that's where I think things go sideways. And there's no way to police that. But I I'm going to see this has been going on since the '90s with some of these games. No doubt about it. This is, by the way, how Jordan got in trouble in the '90s with some of the golf betting when he fell behind by millions, allegedly, with that Richard Esquinas, whatever his name was, who wrote the book. And these guys are super competitive.

No doubt about it. So what did Terry Rozier should be forced to play baseball? I mean, that's what they did to Jordan. I don't know. Send them out. I don't know.

I still don't know what happened with that one because to me, the league checked the MRI and he was hurt. And yet there was so much action on that under and he just left the game after nine minutes. And there's that video of him grabbing his foot and like, Could you rig that? I guess you could. He's making $26 million a year, though. I just don't understand the upside of that.

Yeah, it was just a one, two punch. That and knowing that LeBron was going to be out. That wasn't him. Using info. It was just so much to hit everybody with and release right when the season starts, too.

Well, the bummer, and a lot of people have made this point, but it was an awesome first week for the NBA. The Wemby storyline was awesome. Some of the games were great. All the televised games, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday were really good. And then I thought Amazon on Friday like that, I thought it was really cool. It's going to be work in progress. You have a five-man show that's going to be tough for basketball. But The set, the fact that they were going a little more hard core basketball, and it was more celebrated in the game, which is what I think people want. To an NBC and Amazon, the way they're presenting the game is what people have been asking for for 10 years. We don't want the hot take shit. Teach us about basketball, give us guys we like, and try to be a little more positive. So I don't know. I thought it was a really good week. It was a really good week, except for the story. That became the story that dominated everything.

Did you see this, though, that just came in?

What?

You're making us up. No, now they're saying Wemby is one of the guys who robbed the Louver. So I don't know. He probably has to sit like two weeks or something.

They didn't use a crane. It was just Wemby.

It was him. It was just dunk. Grab.

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All right. So wrestling season, even though it's not really here, is here. Yes, we had a preseason tournament in Cerritos. By the way, you remember Super Dave and the Cerritos commercials? I don't know if you were here yet, but Super Dave would do Cerritos Auto Square. Come to Cerritos Auto Square. We're giving these cars away. It was like your discount. So we had to go to Cerritos. We drive there. The weigh-ins are Friday night at a satellite location. And then the wrestling is Saturday. It starts from 12: 30 and goes to double elimination. So I take Jack out there. We're driving to Cerritos, not to the Auto Square, but to the college. And he's starting in the drive. He is breathing very heavily. He's like, Yeah, he's starting it. But he won't say anything's wrong. So I try to ignore it. I make the radio louder. And finally, I listen to this.

I'm like, I feel- Like he's getting nervous breathing?

Getting nervous breathing, yeah. And I feel bad for him. And I'm like, this sucks. This is really... And wrestling is so much harder now. They have four, four hour practices a week. And it's not even wrestling season yet. Wrestling season starts mid-November. Anyway, so this is a preseason tournament. He's breathing heavy, and I've been there before. I've had all the anxiety, and I don't know what to say to him because I know nothing anyone said to me would work. And so I'm like, Hey, man, I know you're probably nervous, but in a few hours, we're going to be in this car. I'm going to go back, and your life's going to be the same no matter what happens on the mat. And that didn't seem to faz him. The breathing kept consistently. It was constant and it kept going.

You should have said last year, you threw up on the mat, you cleaned it up and you got the win.

You got the win.

Yeah, this would be fine.

I ran through everything I could in my head, try to calm this poor boy down. And then I thought, the day before, Harrison, my youngest, had a flag football game, and my father came, and I walk up. I'm keeping score, actually, on the game changer. And then I left my father for a minute, and I come back 20 minutes later, and his entire ass crack is exposed. I don't know what happened. He's sitting down, but his pants, though. So I have to tell him about it. But first, I have to take a picture of him talking to the coaches with his ass out and then talking to a grandmother of one of the players with his ass out. And I send this to Archie and Jack, And I'm like, Oh, you guys are really missing out today. And so I say to Jack, I'm like, hey, listen, before you go on the mat, you can't bring your phone to the mat, but before you get ready to go on the mat to be on deck, on double deck, just look at that picture. It'll loosen you up a little bit. And he said, oh, well, but yeah, but isn't that going to just make me laugh?

Aren't I supposed to be serious going into these things? I'm like, yeah, I mean, I'd rather you listen to ACDC to get pump for this, but I also don't want you getting a heart attack, worrying about it. So he did it. So I'm sitting on the other side of the bleachers. I see him. He takes it. He looks at the phone. He laughs. This is now he's going onto the mat. He gets on there, and he loses 16 to one. And so I think it really worked. I think tech fall, first period. But it got rid of the butterflies, and that's what coaches look for.

Yeah.

Not to clean up vomit on the match.

So no ass crack next time?

No ass crack, no. I'm not going to have to step it up. But he did better in the second match. But anyway, I don't know what that says about me as a father, but wrestling, the worst.

We were talking about Parent Corner this week, and my wife's like, What's the Parent Corner going to be this week? And Ben said, I haven't been in a Parent Corner all year. I used to carry Parent Corner, and now I'm never in it. I'm like, Well, I don't know. You're a pretty mellow kid. You got a girlfriend, you're just applying to college. And he's like, Why don't you do a thing about how I've been working on all my college stuff? And I've just been a complete asshole to you and mom all the time. And I'm like, I mean, I could relay the message. He's like, Yeah, I mean, I don't know. There's got to be some story in there, right? And I'm like, About how you're a huge asshole and you leave the house every day. And your mom says stuff like, I can't believe I spent all that time passing him out of my body. And then he just grunts as he leaves in the morning and doesn't say goodbye and then goes up to his room and barely talks to us. He's like, Yeah, you could do something like that.

Well, don't do that. You're not going to do that, are you?

I don't know. I'm still workshopping it. No, don't do that. Yeah, I'm still workshopping it. He's been occasionally friendly lately. More friendly. But anyway, that was his suggestion. I wanted to actually steer this to friend corner for my side. Our friend Daniel.

No.

Who was in Boston last week and texted. We have a group text that we really enjoy with a bunch of us and sends a text, Bill, I'm at an Italian restaurant in Boston called Il Bagno now. Do you know it? And I said, I do not. And he said, My buddy said it was Katie's favorite. It was pretty good. So then James Baby doll Dixon chimes in, Il Bagno means the bathroom in Italian. And Daniel text back, Ha, ha, you're right. The restaurant is Lamora. It said Obanio in the door as I walked out. I thought that was the name of the restaurant. He thought the name of the restaurant was Obanio, the bathroom. And I think we got two straight days of jokes about this.

Yeah, we did.

About Obanio, my My dad got a reservation at Obanio today. Should I tell him to cancel? It just went on and on. Were you in trouble when you were ordering a Caesar salad for the bathroom attendant? It just never ended. And it made me wonder, we're hitting that where our friends are going to just start having moments like this. And I think it's going to be great for all of us.

We should read some of these. I think Rob Mill said, Why is this bathroom attendant handing me lifesavers? Give me the lasagna already. What are we doing? Did I order too much shit on a shingle? What have you got?

Stop trying to offer me a mint. It just kept going and going. So anyway, Daniel said El Mora, not El Bano. We might to change parent corner to Daniel corner.

Daniel corner would be great.

In Daniel corner, there's one every week. Has he been on the Red Sox for the 26th World Series yet or no?

Not just yet. I mean, there must be somebody you're looking to get that he's waiting to jump on yet. That would be great if it had gotten out that Katie's favorite restaurant is called El Banya in Boston. It created some We shouldn't leak that.

You can't get a reservation at this place because it's a bathroom in the North end.

Don't bother washing your hands.

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A lot. I'm doing it. I'm going money line favorites for now. It hasn't killed me except for that first night. Was that what house with the Wizards? That sucked. But I bounce back. How about you?

I've been pretty careful. Just a couple of teams that I liked heading into the season, like the Spurs and the Bucks. But the only betting revelation, it's a weird one because it's my team, but my team just I don't think is good, the Celtics. I actually thought they were going to be a little, oh, people are discounting them. They still have some good players. They have an infrastructure. They're going to shoot a ton of threes. It turns out rebounding and defense is also important. Oh, that's one of the things we're learning through these games. Detroit killed them on the boards today. They don't get stops in the last couple of minutes. They're just... And it's not just all the guys they lost. It's really Tatum and Cornet have been the two major losses because those are big rebound guys for them. I'm starting to wonder if they're just not going to be good. Are they going to throw away the season I think in play. I don't know what their over-under is now. It was 42 and a half before this season, and right now it is off. They don't even have it.

That means zero. They're not going to win a game after this.

Yeah, for the division, they're nine to one. But I think this team's in a lot of trouble.

Is a three-point thing at least true? Is that what you thought would happen? Were they going to be spiteful with the three?

They're not. I mean, they're shooting about where they were last year, but So they're 0-3 right now. They're playing at New Orleans, fourth game in five nights tomorrow, home for Cleveland on Wednesday, and then at Philly on Halloween. And then they play Houston the day after at home on November first. O and 7 is legitimately in play for them.

That'd be fun.

As you know, I'm usually more glass half full on my teams. I'm very concerned, I think. And there's been some Celtic fans who This is how we knew this was going to happen. We knew there weren't going to be good. We lost too many guys. But I think, I don't know why, but I just thought they would be able to patch it together, and I don't think it's going to happen. There's a very interesting moment right now for this team because they have their own first-round pick. Whether they just... Do you just toss away the season? Philly tossed away last season. They got VJ Edgecom. It was fucking awesome. If Tatum is not coming back until February, March. So I just wonder, that's That's a team I would probably bet against these next couple of games if that wasn't my team.

What does that mean, Toss away the season? You're not going to be the bottom three or four, right? Are you just banking on what Dallas did, miracle in the lottery?

No, I think this might be a bottom five team in the East. Really? Yeah. Okay. Really? They don't know who to play at the end of these games. They don't know... Detroit just destroyed them on the boards tonight. They couldn't get a rebound. And in the Philly game, they just couldn't get a stop. So I'm concerned because like Jalen played. Jalen had 41 today, and they still lost in Detroit. They couldn't get a stop. I think I misread this one. I had some good ones with the overrunners. I think I missed on the Celtics. Then Indiana is the other one. They lost Nemhardt. I think Indiana actually was the right play to think they were still going to be pretty good, but no Nemhardt now. I think they're in major trouble, too. So I think those two are going to be in real trouble.

Can I make you feel better about your team? We could talk about this off air, but Puky and Albanian Bruce told me about a Payton Pritchard player prop that is just out of this world.

Under?

Is it an under? I don't want to say it in front of everybody because then Pablo will get us.

Yeah, we can't have Pablo come after us. The other one was Dallas. I've been watching just because I've watched all the Dallas stuff, including tonight because the flag and seeing how they're using him with the point guard thing.

He's a great dunker. He's a pretty good dunker.

The flag's really good. But I thought maybe there was going to be a chance to zag against them because this flag point guard thing is a disaster. But today They looked a lot better. So I think they have a lot of talent.

I listen to you a lot on that. So I hope that they make the playoff, they get over 44, all that stuff.

I hope you listen to me on San Antonio because that's the one that if- I did. If Wemby is going to be healthy, that's going to be a monster team, I think. And then I really like Milwaukee. I think Milwaukee is legitimately good. They had a tough loss today to Cleveland, but they were in that game and came down in the last minute. But I think Milwaukee is for real, and they can shoot.

Is there... Oh, you can't talk awards, really. But I wonder if there's- No, I can talk awards.

I just can't bet on them.

Yeah, I'm trying to think if anyone moved a lot.

Wemby. Wemby was 12 to 1 before the season. It's plus 360 now. Yeah.

Right. So are we still with the top two, top three seed thing, or we think they can get there for him.

Well, Wemby could have the this season was so spectacular.

It doesn't matter.

We have to commemorate it. I just think Jokuj is 4 to 1 now. And anytime, he's like Mahomes. Where there's some early season over. I don't know if you've seen him, but he looks like he's playing himself in his shape this year. He's definitely the chunkiest he's been in a while. But yeah, the Wemby, I think, was the biggest flip. And there's the Luka. Luka is 6 to 1. What's his seat? The points per game leader. Luka is plus 340 to be the points per game leader this year. I don't know how he's not going to lead the league in points.

What's the threshold for that? It's different from how to qualify for MVP.

Points per game, and I think it's 60 games.

So 65 for awards, 60 for these things?

Something like that. Yeah. All right. At three, four is pretty good. I would bet Luca. I can actually bet on that one, but I would bet Luca plus three, four.

I'm doing that. As long as we don't hear, he's out like three weeks and stuff.

That would be the issue. It's interesting going to the game on Friday. First of all, he's in good shape. It was the best shape I've seen in a couple of years, but the Laker crowd just loves him. They really do. They're just really into it. And he has such disdain for his opponents. He's talking shit the whole time. He's mad at the refs. It really feels like a performance, and it just It makes sense in LA. So they're not going to win the title or anything this year, but I think long term, it's a great fit for him.

Well, they love him because he's their Ozempic dealer, half these fans, or they have to.

Well, it was weird because LeBron is on the bench and it's like, he's the second best player of all time, one of the most famous basketball players ever, and it's not his team anymore. Right. We have to root for someone. He's sitting there and he's very polite and he had good energy. It seemed like her okay energy, but it's just a weird situation. I don't remember anything like this. I can't imagine Kobe just being on the bench as this became somebody else's team.

Right. Well, that was a big issue, but that's why one of them had to go. Hey, real quick before I go, big, big disparity and opinion here. Bronnie and LeBron plus Giannis and his two brothers, they're the starters. You get an average bench, right? Let's say an average, whatever the 16th best bench is. How many games does that team went.

So I'm starting Bronnie and the two Giannis brothers. I have Giannis and LeBron. How many minutes do I have to play the two brothers in the sun?

Most, whatever starting lineup would mostly play.

So like 30 to 35 minutes.

Right. And the bench is average.

But I have Giannis.

Giannis and LeBron.

But I don't have any shooting with those five other than LeBron. I think that's like a 20-win team.

That's what I think. Tate said 45. Howe said 37, 38. No, we got to see this to believe it.

I mean, Tate. It's probably not going to happen. Come on, Tate.

He's positive. He's a very, very positive guy.

I actually like, though, that they sign the other brother, the Bucks.

Yeah.

I think they should sign more family members because you really only play 10 guys. What would be how How shady could you get with it? If you just sign his cousin who's never... Let's say he had a 5'9 cousin who was a wrestler who never played basketball. He's like, he's our 15th man. And he just never played, but he was one of the 15th guys. Technically, that's legal.

Right. Yeah. If you're signing Albanian Bruce and pooky to 10-day contracts, I think that's when you have to... It's a red flag.

I can't get enough Albanian Bruce in everybody.

Let's have him on. Those are all over my He's going to be fine. Let's have him on next week.

All right, because we're going to be back next Sunday. What's the Sunday night game next week? It's a good one, right?

Seattle and Washington?

Oh, not a good one. We're probably not going live after that one next week.

I never know why or when we go live, but you'll be surprised.

It's usually when it's a good game, we want to go live. We'll see if the pats. The pats play next week. Yeah, they're playing Atlanta. Okay. We'll see if the Pats can be seven to two. Because as It's always a pleasure. Good job by you. Good job by you, buddy. All right, that's it for the podcast. Thanks to Sal. Thanks to Geha. Thanks to Eduardo. I will be back on this feed on Tuesday. And don't forget about rewatchable as late Monday night, Halloween 2. So now I've done one, two, and four. I guess H2O would be the only one left that we'd... Who knows when we do H2O? H2o might be in the tail end, maybe around when we've done 750 movies. Anyway, I will see you on this feed on Tuesday. Must be 21 plus on President Select States for a Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 plus in President DC, Kentucky, or Wyoming. Gamble problem, call 1-800 Gamble or visit rg-help. Com. Call 888-79-7777 or visit ccpg. Org/chat-in-connect, or md-gamblinghelp. Org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gamblinghelplinema. Org or call 800-327-5050 for 24/7 support in Massachusetts, or call 877-8 Hope, N-Y or text Hope, N-Y.

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