Transcript of "Daniel Craig"

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Alright. So, we are having a, a cold open, contest right here. Yeah. We're trying to create the world's worst cold open,

prior to it.

Well, not yet. I'm just teeing it up. Will, would you like to, start the world's worst cold open?

Hey, man. It's freezing in here. Who left the door open?

It's good.

Pretty good. Welcome to Smartless. Smartless.

Smartless.

Smart. Bless.

It feels like we haven't done this for quite a while. It does. I miss I miss you guys. Didn't we we canceled a record last week, I think? Yes.

We did. Yeah.

It's been a can been a couple weeks. Is that right? Yeah.

It's been a it's been a few weeks.

Well, we saw each other Saturday. We did.

We did. But we haven't done this.

This. We haven't done this in a quite a while.

We haven't,

Jay, how's your stye, by

the way?

Jason's got a big stye in his right eye.

It's disgusting. So Are we going wide on this? I guess, I can lean in Yes, we are. Screen camera here. It's a little,

You know what? It actually looks is it better?

It looks absolutely better. I started an antibiotic last night, so that's supposed to, in in the yeah. I get I know. I know.

What do

you want

you wanted to wait 2 weeks just to make sure? It's all

about trying to find the right doctor. So, anyway so I think I'm with the right 1 now. And this what is now a ball bearing of pus that it will not release from my eyelid, I think is gonna start to lessen and I would love that.

So you found a full release doctor? I I did. Yeah.

And insurance covered it all. Stupid. There's a small co pay, but, I

feel like the term doctor might be pretty loosely

applied. Jay, I'm not even Jason, I'm not even kidding. Will you please will you please video

There is not

gonna be any

I asked him to drain me yesterday, and Hang on. I just hang on.

Again, this is the doctor?

Can I get the number?

Because I feel like we're getting our signals.

Yeah. He said, no. Just take this pill, and you should be okay and soon. So Good.

I hope so.

I hope so. Until then, I'm gonna wear these glasses so people don't really see it.

Which is different because Sean, you told me once that a guy gave you a pill and then he drained you.

Is that true? All for a pretty affordable pill pay.

You woke up and you had been drained.

Yeah.

But I willing I I but I willingly took the pill. I know you By the way, speaking of stuff I'm not making this up. Yesterday,

I

was somehow, I got in the subject. Oh, I was talking about this Saturday too. Uh-huh. I I YouTubed childbirth. I've never seen a childbirth.

You. I don't know. I I've kinda wanted to just see it.

Hang on. How does your day how does your day kind of, like, kind of lay out where you find yourself on a YouTube search and then specifically for childbirth?

Because I was talking to my friend Kevin about it and Carrie, and she and I don't know.

Carrie, friends of the Correct. And all of us.

And Yeah. So yeah. But but they, I don't know. We got on the subject of childbirth. Oh, because a friend of mine because a friend of mine a a friend of ours just had a baby.

And, Chris Pratt and Catherine Schwarzenegger had a baby boy.

Yes. Yes. Congrats to them. Wait.

Do we need we need to sway? We need to send it here.

We gotta send them something.

So do you think they're registered?

Some smartly swag.

No. I I'll put my name on it. I'll put your names on it. I I sent something, but I'll put your names on

it. Thanks. So

you saw the childbirth in. What was your

No. So I was talking to people about it, and I was like, wow. I mean, I'd know It comes out of there? I had no idea that to watch it actually be

uh-huh, to

come out and And the head comes out all elongated?

Yes. And the whole body comes

out. I saw it, I thought something was wrong.

I was there I was there for the birth of all 3 of my boys.

Wow. What a dad.

And and they were

they were

all all 3 were, were, cesarean c sections, which was Really?

That's tough to watch.

It that's what what that was my point.

You emptied out the whole market there.

Dude, and and I'm like and I'm like, yeah. It's gonna be fun. I remember the first time being, like, And then looking and just going, oh, cool.

Stomach, intestines, spleen, liver, everything on the table.

By the way, you know what a platinum gay is? A gay a baby that comes out who turns out to be gay who never even went through the canal, had a had a c section. So not only was touched

looked at it or been through it.

It's a it's a platinum gay. That's a real term.

Platinum

gay. Means your mom had a mom had a c section.

Is that a whole section on Grindr? Is that a different

Alright. And with that, we'll get to our guest.

Okay. Guys Wow. How is that possible?

Guys, we rarely have members of the military on the show. Uh-huh. Even more rare are members of the British military. Today, we have a commander of the Royal Navy. Alright?

But this is not just a soldier. His interests include rugby

Churchill?

Clearing I'm gonna have to start over now. Oh, fuck. You know, I don't like to be interrupted during my I spent a long time writing these.

Right.

Guys, we rarely have members of the military on the show. Even more rare are members of the British military. Today, we have a commander of the Royal Navy, but this is not just a soldier. His interests include rugby, clearing minefields, Shakespeare, Liverpool soccer, Will, solving mysteries, and shaking martinis. Guys

What?

It's Daniel Craig.

No way.

Hey. Whoo. Yep. Yep.

Yep. Oh my god.

I wanted

to meet you for so long

right there. So cool. Well, here we are. Will, take it easy.

Well, I know. I didn't know that you were a a Liverpool supporter. This is great news.

You would have covered that before when you guys met?

Yeah. Yeah. I would have.

Wait, Daniel. I think I know what hotel room you're in.

You've been in this hotel room.

You're at the 4 Seasons, Los Angeles. Guess.

Is that true?

Is that true? Is that true? Is that true? Is that true? Is that true?

Is that true? Is that true?

Is that true? Is that true? Is that true? Right?

Are you

on the junket? Yeah.

I mean, I have been coming to this hotel for, like, 35 years. I realized, like, we're going to the to the same room. Mhmm.

Daniel, do they make that jacket in men's?

Or Hey. Hey. Wow. This is on the first minute of the

off. Good. Excellent. I actually love it. I actually

love it.

Wait. Does Sean no.

No. No. That's actually what I'd like

to say. Sean, do you know Daniel as well?

Don't. I've never met you, obviously.

I've It doesn't seem like it.

No. Very. I'm a

massive, massive fan.

Massive fan. I can't.

Yeah. Okay. And Will, you have met, mister Craig.

We have met. We hung out. We had, we watched the Super Bowl together. Right, Daniel?

Yes. We did. That's right.

And then we went out

end up in the chateau? Or did we?

Oh. Yeah.

Is that where was that after I can't remember. That's 2 separate incidents, but there's probably No. No.

It was the same night.

A lot of alcohol in there.

Yeah. We ended up in the chateau with Krasinski and Sean Penn.

That's I know.

Boy, I can't I'm I'm drunk already.

Fucking Hollywood. It's just

It was a it was very Hollywood. It sounds like a bit, but it's actually Yeah.

That was a

long that was a long time ago.

A great group

to

drink with. Where was I? Damn it.

In a facility.

I was probably in a facility, so Mark, figuring stuff out. It was I think yeah.

I think it was family weekend at Betty Ford.

Now, Sean, we're gonna get, Sean, we're gonna get to the time when Daniel was a stormtrooper in Star Wars. We're gonna get to that.

I know exactly which 1 he was. How about that? Come on. Truly? I of course, I do.

So so this is not something that I just discovered on Wikipedia.

No. It's the 1 where he says, where she does plays the mind trick, and you you will walk away and drop your weapon. I will walk away and drop my weapon. You dropped your weapon. You walked out of the scene.

That's true.

Which That's true. You spoke.

I I I well,

I didn't want to, but I I was I just said, you know, dub me, Christ's sake. Don't I don't need but then I had to wait.

Bump. You know, you speak as a stormtrooper. That that's, that's a bump into Do you

think I got 1?

Yeah. I'll Yeah. Help.

They didn't even give me the they didn't even give me the uniform. That's the only thing I wanted. It was the uniform. It's like give me the give me the helmet, at least.

How did that come about? What do you what do you were you visiting on the set and they said here's an extra I

was we were about to start. I don't know which Bond it was.

You lose track. It was the last lose track.

No. No. It wasn't. No. It was it was way before.

It was it must have been Specter. I I I I because I was and we were prepping and I knew the guys who I knew all the crew, the the the ADs who worked on on on and I'd sort of like you

drifted over to the stage? I

just drifted

over. Really?

And I kinda went, oh, come on. Put me in uniform.

Yeah. Yeah.

I love that. I love

that. Truly, is that is that the way they went?

They went exactly, and they I'm like, I'm like, I was half joking thinking they were just gonna tell me where to get off, but, I

How long of a day was that?

Too fucking long. You know, that kind of regret of, like, sort of think, oh, no. I'll be an extra

oh, yes. Great. Oh, wow.

How

many hours are we being? I'm gonna get in the back of shop for this. It's like they were very good. They were great. I do remember wearing because, you know, those, the suits are I mean, they're basically hard plastic and kind of, you know, they're not comfortable.

I mean, god how god knows how they wore them out in the desert when they do those. But I all remember that it sort of was a little bit big for me, and it sort of rested on my thumb, and my thumb was numb for 3 days afterwards. Yeah. Because I'd like and I was like, the price I pay, and I didn't get a bump. Right.

So it

was No bump. No helmet. No

Yeah. Nothing. You you

got a bump at the Chateau.

Yeah. Yeah. Sean

Sean wants to know, did you meet the mayor of Tatooine? Fucking grow up, Sean.

I would

yeah. I would yeah.

He's gonna double back to this. I know it. Yeah. Alright. Now

Oh my god.

Daniel, where

to start? Do

you have

all the questions? No. I've

got so many. Yeah.

And these 2 just fuck with you and stop you answering the question.

That's

the way

it goes on this.

That's the way it goes. Yeah.

Yeah. You'll be the way

it goes.

What happens

what happens when, like, like, the reveal and the other 2 go, oh, fuck? Does that that must happen. Sure.

Yes. It does. Yes. It just

happened not out loud. Yeah.

Yeah. Alright. Now let's just can we I'm gonna qualify this by saying, I'll I'll bet I'm gonna ask you some questions that you've answered a thousand times. And I want you to be patient with us because we're dumb people that aren't fully researched. We're not journalists.

We're terrible interviewers.

Come at you with just dumb Yeah. Questions. Okay?

Well, how do I why do I

feel like I'm being hustled here?

Yeah. Welcome, miss Harland.

Now, what about, can we can we start at can we start at the beginning? Sure. Alright. Alright. So you're in Liverpool.

Alright? Yes. And

By the way, you gotta see Daniel Picture the scene. Okay. So it's gray.

It's pissing with rain.

Now, no. Was there a was there an was there an influence there? Mom or dad? Mom? Mom.

Mom was, a An art teacher. Art teacher.

Thank you.

That's cool.

And so she she sort of exposed you to the arts a little bit. She took you to movies or to plays or whatnot. How did the spark start?

Plays were the thing. There was a there was a theater in Liverpool at the time, the 70 still is, called the Everyman Theater, which was a really was kinda a hotbed of of of talent as they say and Yeah. And at the time in the seventies. And, but her friends, were I'd been at Liverpool Art College and a lot of them had gone into the theater, stage design, and and such things. And they were those were her kind of friends.

She was a single mom. Yeah. We used to kind of end up going there most nights to the theater just to sort of hang out. There was a kind of, you know, they had a bistro there that set up for cheap food and and it was a subsidized theater and they did this thing where it's like a, you know, there's a pound a ticket that, you know, it's like it was the whole thing was supposed to be so everybody could afford to go and they and they made, they did some off the charts plays but it meant that I spent sort of, you know, evenings backstage at the theater and Right. That'll that'll do it to you.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's where all the fun happens.

Yeah.

Yeah. And this is something that mom really likes. It seems pretty cool, and and on and on and on. Right?

And, you know, actors kind of, like, you know, coming you know, meet actors afterwards. I'm seeing them and I thought they were I thought they were gods, and then I just realized they were drunk.

Yeah. They were they, they were drunk.

That's pretty compelling.

But but but they were drunk. But but at the same time, at that age at that age, if you're if you're quite young and you're an adolescent, you're teenager, whatever it is, when you're exposed to that kind of thing in that kind of world, it does give you that perspective that other kids your age don't have. And you right. Because you're spending a lot of time with adults who are talented, who are creative.

Right. And it

kind when when you get that fire kind of sparked at that age,

I think

it's pretty cool.

And it was yeah. I mean,

I definitely and it and I mean, it really did. It went in. That's what I wanted to do. From I mean, that's all I wanted to do. But it also gave me this it's something that watching the way a theater works, the way the professionals work and all that, it also kind of went, oh, this is a job as well.

You could see that. It's kind of a couple of things,

you know.

A lot of things happen, but that When

when was the first time you thought, well, that this is something that I might not embarrass myself doing? When did was the first time you thought, I I might I might I asked that before.

What are you talking about? About? 2nd 2nd Bond film. 2nd Bond film.

The drinking component helps with that.

I still feel like I'm

embarrassing myself.

But, I mean but but, like, was it was it a school play where you're like, oh, I don't suck at this, or I'm getting a couple of pats on the back?

I got roped into a school play. I mean, I kind of did 1 of those things where I think I kind of had a couple of days off or whatever. I got the mumps or something. I don't know. Yeah.

And I came back, and I've been cast in the school play. And it was like

remember what it was?

It was Oliver. Yeah. And I was like Oh, wow.

It was it was

just I wasn't Oliver, sadly. I was mister Soursbury, which is the part that's not in the movie that kind of was in the musical and got, you know, for for good reason got written out of the of the movie. You know.

Was it a spicy character though,

or was it

He's an Undertaker.

You gotta pick a pocket or 2. Right? You gotta pick a pocket or 2. I didn't

get to do that. No. Sadly. Yeah. I know you gotta pick a pocket or 2.

That's right. I mean, it's it's a credo you live by.

Right. So so you do that. You get a cut you you get couple of attaboys, a couple of pats on the back, and you're like, alright, well, I'm gonna lean into this a little bit, and you started maybe a little bit more slightly.

What about you guys? I mean, you guys have all done a school play at some point. It's just that kind of mass hysteria thing Yeah. Yeah. That kind of happens.

It's which is, I I mean, I, you know, like, my kids do school plays. I love that kind of just, like, the level of, like,

oh, my god.

Yeah. Which is, like, it's kind

of it stays with you. It kind of That's

You get it. I got it. I got asked to be in the school play, and I think it was I'm quite sure, never can totally confirm, quite sure it was because I was such a loud mouth No. In the ass.

What? No.

No. If you can believe it. And and they and they were like, fuck. How do we do can is there somewhere we can find like either a room that's just soundproof or somewhere we can take that fucking energy that's driving everybody crazy?

By the way

by the way, h m s pinafore, and I was like, okay.

Yeah. That's it. I mean

Will, the same thing. The same thing. People were like, god, you're fucking loud and annoying and Yeah. And yeah. And I I did, Shakespeare 12 Shakespeare's Twelfth Night.

Wow. And I

was sir Andrew Agachek. I had no idea what I was saying. And 1 until I got in front of the audience, then it kinda clicked. And every word I every line that was a comedy line Yeah. Got a laugh, and

I was like

That's it.

What is

that? What is

that about?

Yeah. That's crazy.

And when you started feeling

that Yeah. Uh-huh.

The ultimate drug you wanna tell me?

I let yes. I'm like, fuck you. This loud mouth's gonna keep going.

You know, Daniel, you are very, very funny. Like, you know, the the the the the night out no. The night out stuff is like And

there was someone that said you're very, very, very funny. I can tell you, am I?

No. But it's well, but but maybe it's because people weren't expecting because you've done so

much incredible dramatic work. So moody for the for 15 years.

Well, yeah. I mean, you know, we do we do what we get. You know? But, like, now, are you starting to, pursue, raise your hand, get more scripts that are more comedic? And is that something that is exciting to you?

Please say yes. I never yes. Okay.

Yes. Yes.

After you can write it why don't you give me the questions, and I'll just, like,

just He likes What what

the answers I do build the answer

in the question. Always built in. And so then then he likes to he likes to bring the the the the guest into the inevitable, really interesting yes or no.

But then, is that

how we go out on this?

I can't wait. 50 questions. Yes or no. It's easy. What was the you wanna do more comedy?

Yes. I don't listen. I I you you, you know, I I it would be like I had a plan.

Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Right? I mean, I'm making this up as I go along. So I don't know about that. I mean, seriously, I I you know, it's like they come if they come along, sure. But I'm kind of going out and looking for something funny.

It's also, you know, I know how kind of that's a dangerous thing to do. I mean, you know, it's like, you know, it's like Yeah. The first night I I read the script and I laughed out loud

and I went, fuck. Yes. I I loved that movie.

So so that was like an easy easy pick. And then, you know, Ryan's, know, 1 of the most talented writers there are.

Love that guy. I love

that guy. You know, he he just kinda keeps going and keeps getting at it and keeps getting into it. And this next one's gonna be different. And, you know, we've kinda gone I mean, it's not it's not wildly different, but it's gonna be definitely kind of

I would guess that somebody who is approached for something as iconic as Bond, and the kind of intelligence that you have, you probably had some thoughts, and some talks with some people about, okay. If I did this, I've got I've got to do this. But if I did this, what what I would need to kind of have a plan to how to occupy myself in between those movies and what to do afterwards. And so,

you know fucked up.

When yeah. I don't think so.

I don't think

so. So. I think

it's kinda perfect, and we're gonna get to queer soon, which is a perfect balance.

By the way, you didn't need to plan for anything.

I guess we're gonna get to him right now. Go ahead.

There's our clip. Go ahead, Sean.

No. I was gonna say, you didn't need to plan because those movies were fucking exhausting, I'm sure. Like Yeah. Didn't you need to recover and, like

I I I think there was a a feeling when I first started that because I'd had exactly what you said, those conversations, and I talked about it to everybody I knew and all my family and all of those things about what does it mean. Of course, I've gotta do it. I've gotta do this, but what does it mean? I mean, I don't know. You know, it's, how it's gonna affect my life and all these things.

And and and there was a sort of, I suppose, an instinct in me to sort of wanna go, okay. I'm doing Bond now. I've gotta do other stuff as well to kind of counterbalance this.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's just, like, fucking ridiculous.

Yeah. Yeah. It's just like I mean, it's like

I mean, it's like and it looks like now.

I was fucking exhausted. I was like so as much as the moves I did in between, I'm kind of, like, proud of and all of those things, I I stopped. I just went, let's do this. If I'm doing this, just do this. Just do this.

Yeah. Yeah. And I don't I don't have the head space. I don't have the I mean

I'm gonna say something that's gonna be, my son is controversial, but I know because the Bond fans in the Bond world is is so those fans are so vocal and and and, you know, dedicated, etcetera. But I will say that for me, and I love all the prior bonds, everybody was great. So this is by no mean an admonishment of what they had done. But for you were the 1st bond who was like a real, like, real Hot piece of ass. Man's man.

Yeah. Yeah. Hot piece of ass. Yeah. And was tough.

You were tough. This culture, but where's it gonna culture for? Yeah. What? No.

But you came you were you were tough and and because I think that people will go like, how dare you, blah blah. But you came out and you were like this tough like, you were like a real modern Bond in a way that I thought was really, really refreshing. I loved your Bond films, dude. I really did.

Thank you.

Yeah. Yeah.

And we will be right back.

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And now, back to the show.

My question is when you were doing the very first 1, which I've seen a 1000000000 times, I've seen all of them a 1000000000 times. I literally could do, like, dialog from it. I know it's

a long

time. Give

it to me. Stop. Stop. What does he what did you say?

Oh, let's see.

Take your take your hand away from your ear. Anyway, that was the first 1. Anyway Sean. So thank you. Thank you.

Question.

Fuck. But wait. At what point That

that would have been the line I remembered too. Go ahead. I just

I literally just said it yesterday.

But wait. Get to the choppers. Right? It's

up there with that.

Oh, wait, Daniel. At what point when you were making Sorry.

I think my phone's ringing.

No. That kicked off the whole chase. Kick your hand over here. Anyway, so when you were doing that movie, at what point in the middle of the movie were you like, oh god. I bit off more than I could chew.

This is really hard. Mhmm.

Like, I

don't know if I'm gonna make it. Or were you like, oh, this is awesome. I can do this. All the stunts, all the bullshit that you had that you put your body through.

I mean, I don't I was I was, like, younger, and I and and I'm way too gung ho.

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

It's like yeah. I was just you know, I mean, I kinda threw myself.

There was,

like, you know, the guys were kind of saying, you know, do you wanna do oh, yeah. I'll do it. Yeah. I was, like, fucking. And then Tom.

We were

like, yeah. Yeah. I know. And, but I had all this stuff going on. I mean, we were we we started shooting in Prague.

Mhmm. In studios there, and then we moved to the Bahamas. And then my agent, which is you know, it was very nice, but then my agent sort of phoned me up and said, you might wanna look at the Internet. The Internet has just sort of blown up. I've done this, like, fuck him

kind of thing

Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. Which was kinda like and I kinda looked at it all and as, like, you know, when the naive days when I used to do stuff like that. Like, oh, I'm gonna look at all and go down the rabbit hole and just chased it all night long and was like, oh my god.

That's really intense. And I kind of it I then sort of just had this sort of, like, sort of I don't know. I just sort of went, well, there's fuck all I can do about that. There's nothing I can do. And we're here.

And I know the script's good. And let's have a good time. And if it if it's a swing and a miss, great. If it's my last 1, I'll walk away knowing that I did the best I could. I mean, it kinda glitz I mean, it sounds easy to say now.

No. No. No way. But it just it was like it just I was like, let's get on with this. Let's do it.

I I I just, you know.

And do you think do you think that that sort of that trial by fire of of being because Bond again is so iconic and and by being put in the brightest of spotlights and and being scrutinized so much, sort of on social media or whatever it is online. Do you think that that was a, did you were you able to carry those lessons on sort of post bond and then your normal so as you because we we talk about it sometimes about what's the reaction to what people say in social media and everybody's got a voice and stuff. And everybody kinda puts it in a different place or deals with it differently. How how does it affect your life? Do you think about it?

I mean, I I mean, I think the fame thing. I mean, I just had a complete nervous breakdown after it came out until didn't leave the house for 6 months, but

I was back. Really? Really?

I mean, I mean, I exaggerate,

but I

kind of Yeah. It was a bit like that. I just got, like, oh my I mean, it was, like, you know

It's a level of fame and recognizability that is not something that 1 deals with quickly and easily.

Well, and

who do you talk

to about it? I mean Yeah. I suppose you go, can I go I'm gonna phone up someone really, really famous? I mean, it's like I mean, I I I, you know, I I I don't know what you say.

Yeah. Or if you talked with the butcher or your friend or somebody who's not working, and they're like, oh, boo hoo, you're James Bond. Right?

Right. Exactly.

So where does where does that healthy level of indifference come from about whether it works or not, and I'm gonna still just be me, and if it doesn't, or this fame stuff, like, was was your did did did mom give you a good head on your shoulders, or was it sort of were you kinda self taught?

I think there's a there's a I've just got a very, you know, down to earth family who Right. Do not shy away from telling me what, you know, a lowlife I am. Yeah. You know, I mean, it's like, and that that really helps. And just, yeah, coming I don't know.

I'm from the north of England, so more kind of like sort of practical sort of, like, pragmatic way of looking at life maybe. I also got into that thing of, you know, very early on. I mean, there's so much I did I mean, I went to drama school, and there's that terrible thing of drama school is that, like, 90% of the year don't get to work. It's like it's like that's the attrition rate. And you go into the business.

There wasn't social media, so there wasn't another outlet to try and become famous. It was just like, you know, you got a job or you didn't get a job, and mostly mostly people didn't get a job. And, I know that somebody gave me a great bit of advice very early on a while at drama school, a great director who just said, don't ever, ever, ever get bitter. Don't get you know, because bitterness is just the thing that it'll just eat you up because there's always somebody gonna get the job or Right. Right.

Or over you. There's always somebody gonna you know, and if you kind of look at look only look at, like, you know, other people in the business with jealousy, then then you'll kind of that that's that'll define you. And it doesn't matter if you then get success. You're still gonna I I get jealous all the time. Jealous of every fucking actor out there who gets a job that I'd like.

But I kind of I'm I admit to it. Yeah. I know. Right. But but

that's good. We had the we had the same we used to talk about it all the time. I remember this for years ago when when people would start to work. And as you say, most of the time, most of us were not working, and somebody would get a good job and whatever. And I always stayed friends with my we sort of cultivated

People who were working? Yes. Not a people. Good

boy. No.

That would get dinner. Yeah.

Well, it was but it was also like, we we we genuinely rooted for each other.

And

anybody and sometimes there would be somebody would come in the group who was you could tell was keeping score.

No. And then you would just weed them out. And you'd

weed them out. And you'd be like, I'm not here. I can't be friends with people who are keeping score. I just can't.

I agree. Yeah.

There's enough for everybody.

Yeah. Yeah.

And and if you're not in the mindset of rooting people on Yeah. Then, like, you say you're bitter, and then fuck it. Then you're fucked.

You're fucked. You're fucked.

I that's why I thought I just read something recently where you said, and I'll made me laugh out loud when somebody asked you, who do you think you should pass the torch on to for James Bond? And you said, I don't care.

Because rumors are not my business.

It's almost gonna not my business. It is like it's like JB, that is sexy indifference.

It's somebody else's fucking problem.

Oh, that's so great.

It made me laugh. Out loud.

So so then so then coming up and starting to do some jobs and and kind of starting to make a living a little bit from it, perhaps, were there were there some other I'm sure that there were some other jobs that you were doing to kind of pay the bills.

I mean, I I left home at 16. Yeah. I went and, joined a thing called the National Youth Theater in London. So I left Liverpool. Liverpool was, like, early eighties as depressed as I mean, it's so much it's come up now, and it's doing the city's doing great, which is just wonderful.

But at the time, it was seriously depressed. We had a sort of Trotskyite, local council that was hated by Thatcher who who she starved money. I mean, it was like the whole thing was just like my employment was like I kinda got like 35% or 36%. But it was it was through the roof, whatever it was. And there was not a lot of job prospects.

Then I was, I was playing with the idea of joining the navy. I was playing with the idea you know, I was doing all those things going, well, what do I do? What the fuck did

I do?

Plan, what do you do?

And there was a thing called the National Youth Theater, and it did a summer course. And my mother was a teacher, and it was on the board at her school, and she went this. And I went and auditioned for it in Manchester. I got in, and she sort of kicked me out the door. And she went, you gotta go.

You gotta go. Go. Go. Go. Wow.

And it was partly her ambition because, actually, she'd got into RADA.

Oh, wow.

Which is, you know, the the kind of top the top sort of drama school, certainly, of of those years when she was 17, 18, and Yeah. There was no money to go. That there was this you know, there was like because it was you know, she didn't the family just didn't have the money. So Right. She didn't tell me that till about 10 years ago, actually.

Oh, wow. Wow.

So so she but that her ambition for me was just to get going again. Wow.

She must have been absolutely thrilled with your your success and

and Yeah.

The arc of your success too. Yeah?

Yeah. I mean, I think so. Yes.

Yeah. That's that's awesome. Awesome.

And you and and also and when you say the arc too, because you you earned it as well. Like, you know, you you really Oh, there's you. Mom?

Look at this. Hey.

We already we already tipped her, by the way. Don't

quote. Yeah. We got this. We got that. Listener, he just had some food delivered.

I gotta

have a

bite at this.

Go ahead. We Don't eat this.

Don't eat this.

Enjoy. So this is a perfect time for me with a long winded question here, so you can check. Now, let's see. Were there there weren't any well, you tell me. Were there huge influences or a particular 1 coming out of England?

You were like, if I were to get some traction on this career, that is kind of the path I'd like to be on. Was it, somebody in England, or was it was it somebody in America? Was it was it was it always acting? Was it directing?

The the theater thing was the kicker. Was well, that was definitely the kind of thing that got me just that's what I wanna do. And I I had some weird thing that I can do that, which is Right. But, you know, it's just because I was a show off.

Right.

Dressing up. Also, was it like still do.

Yeah. So it's

like you know, I mean I mean so but John Gielgud. Something like that. No? Yes.

I mean, I you know Albert Finney.

I mean, definitely that generation, Albert Finney's generation, and those guys, I mean, it's just that whole, you know, the I suppose the they call them the angry young men, didn't they?

Then you worked with Gambon. Right?

I did. Yeah. Yeah. Who Lucky man. I'm really I mean, just a dream, of a human being and and and 1 of the greatest actors actors ever.

Yeah. It was film, really. And that was, we had a little cinema in the town I grew up in, which was, you know, a fleet there, proper kind of just like a 1 screen. And all the movies at the time would do the kind of rounds of the country where they go to the big screens and things like that. And then by the time we got them, the movie had been out for, like, a month and a half.

Right. And and the prince would I remember the prince was just terrible and kinda like that. But they just they put films on in rotation. I mean, from Stripes to Quest for Fire Yeah. To, you know I mean, Blade Runner, I remember seeing in the cinema on my own Yeah.

With a kind of an orange juice. And this film came out. I had no I had no idea. It was, like, blind. I was in there seeing a double bill.

It was 1 it was a Sean Connery space movie called Outland

or something.

Oh, Land or something. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Does

that make sense? That doesn't make Yeah. That was on, which is pretty great because it's a cowboy movie in space. Yeah. And then I kind of went and got a, you know, a a a drink and came back and sat down on my own, and Blade Runner started.

And it was just like I was like and and that Was Harrison Ford

a bit of a north star for

you? Well,

it it was the movie itself. It was the whole thing. Yeah. I mean I mean, sure. He is, of course.

Yeah. But the the movie itself and the kind of the fact that movies could look like that, feel like that, and do that to you Right. Was just like the thing. I I I did I'd never kind of experienced it. And it felt like a movie that I discovered, that I was and it was nothing to do with the Gone With the Wind or the

kind of,

like, the the the the it's a wonderful life stuff that we all the all the Bond movies even.

It was fantastic.

That was part of,

But ultimately, kind of intangible, though. Right? I would imagine there you are sitting in this theater in this small town, and you're like, well, I'm I'm never gonna make it to Hollywood. I'm never gonna be up on

the street. Miles away.

I was an arrogant little bitch.

You you actually thought, oh, there is a shot. There is a shot. If I play my cards right,

if I I don't know. I mean, I it's it's hindsight, isn't it, that sort of says it? But there was something about

You thought it was possible, which is the key. Right?

I don't think

so.

Why can't well, but

you also got accolades when you were doing theater enough to know that you had something to offer.

It was a it was a thing that happened. I kinda left drama school and went and did I went and did a John g Avilstone movie called The Power of 1 with Stephen Dorf.

Love Stephen.

Scored by Hans Zimmer. Well, I mean, maybe Wow. And He's amazing. Really kind of weird. I mean, not weird movie.

Just a kind of movie of of its, era.

Yeah.

Playing the bad guy and kind of it was just this sort of event that happened, but it was a movie. And I then came out and didn't work for a lot. I did some theater and then started getting TV roles. Yeah. Little guest roles and things like that.

And, suddenly then I got kind of a lead in a in a TV role. And suddenly, the money started. It wasn't great, but it was like, oh, this is like this is like kinda life changing money in the sense I might be able to afford a house soon. This is all kind of Still

living in England?

Still still living in England. I'd gone to LA after the power of 1, and it was, like, 1991 and arriving here. Wow. It was, like, it was like a I mean, well, it well, it kind of and kind of not because I was so, like, green and naive. I landed in this town.

I didn't have a driver's license, and have a credit card. You know, they checked me into the Universal Sheraton, which is

Yeah. Sure.

I real I realize now is an island. Yes. But I need a car to get off it. I mean, it's like I mean, it was an and I got away to the front desk, and they said, credit card. They went and they were like, we're looking like a so I had to embarrassly call up Warner Brothers and get them to put some money down on the desk and do all these things.

And

Wow.

And then John D'Alvison very nicely was sort of pushing me slightly because he's like, your kid this kid's got it. This kid's got it. He was pushing me slightly. So I went up for auditions. And I in the movie, I was playing, you know, a a Nazi, kind of South African, you know, bad guy.

Yeah. And I was going up for Nazi, South African bad guys. I mean, that's that that was it. I went up, like, 5 auditions, and it was all for, you know, it was just all for Nazis. Just was like I was just like yeah.

I mean, I could've I've got a bit more range than this, I think. Right. And they and I was there was a kind of suddenly, there was an offer on the table from a manager, and why don't you stay, and we get the accommodation, blah blah blah blah. And I kinda went on, and I did these 5 auditions, and I went, woah. No.

This is gonna go really wrong. And I don't know what it was. It was just like this is where this where these thoughts came from, I have no idea. But they were just like, this is this is gonna this is not the career I want. Right.

So I went home.

Back to England. Back to theater.

Back to England. Well, sort of back to thinking, well, I've got, you know, I've got a bit of money in my you know, I've got a bit of money now, so it's okay. But then suddenly, I started getting bigger roles in television, and I realized that was a mistake Because I looked at these television stars at home, and god bless them. They're doing they're earning money, and they've got the house in Portugal, and they've got and and they're thinking, yeah, they're set.

They're set.

It's great. I wanna make movies. I want to make movies.

Good for you.

And the British movie industry didn't exist.

Right. Yeah.

Yeah. It

just did I mean, there were amazing movies coming out. You think about, you know, like,

Room With A View.

I mean, Room With A View, but I'm not I'm talking kind of like yeah. No. I mean, the the no 1 was ever ever gonna cast me in because I didn't I wasn't a floppy, fringed kind of posh boy.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's what I mean.

Yeah. Really, like, the sort of the So

there was there was lots of brilliant directors like, you know, My Beautiful Laundrette and things like things like that were going on. But that was a kind of, you know, you had to know the director and things and Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I sort of plugged away at it until someone gave me

a break. But what was the shift what was the shift in that

in the British For

me?

Film?

You mean

Yeah. Well,

I did a

film called Love is a Devil.

And that was that got some traction for you?

It it

it's as these things do. I mean, like like I say this to kinda young actors who talk about kind of, you know you know, I want the you know, when the break comes and

Yeah.

You know, I'm gonna do this thing and, you know, it's like it's like believing producers say this is gonna be good for you. This is gonna be good

for you. This is gonna

be good for you. Like it doesn't happen like that in the industry. It's tectonic. It's like it rolls around. You get the break, like, someone comes and sees you in something or sees you in something.

A year later, they might go, let's get that guy. Right. And that's and you can't you you can't rush these things. So I did things, and I just kept on going. And, eventually, sort of something momentum started happening.

And then I don't know what kind of what went went down. I did a TV series and then and then wrote a petition, like, you know, so Sam cast me and wrote wrote a petition and then Eunice.

Now did you know Sam Mendes before that?

To say hello to.

Yeah. But you so then it was so then when you auditioned, I'd imagine that was an audition, not an offer. It was a friendly face, in the audition room, which

is where

You did?

I blew.

Yeah. Not a good audition.

No. Come on.

No. Did you apologize after your audition? As you're leaving. I'm so sorry you had to see that. Good luck with the project.

Oh my god.

That's my go to.

Yeah. Jesus. It's But it works. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it works.

Yeah. Uh-huh.

Yeah. No. I just I was I'd I'd I'm supposed to have sort of learned this Chicago accent. For some reason Uh-huh. I didn't.

And I auditioned. I kind of I really could I he'd sort of kind of he hadn't offered it to me, but he'd sort of said to me, we really want you to play the part. And I thought, well, that's an offer. Then he said, now you're gonna fly out to Chicago and audition. I was like, oh, really?

Yeah. So and

I so

I didn't really do enough work on the part. I kinda went did this terrible reading, and he sort of went, stop. Stop. You've got the job. Oh,

no. No way. I sort

of I kind of, you know, battered him down with terrible acting. It's a it's a ploy.

Alright. So then you're on set, and you're working with Tom Hanks and Paul Newman and being directed by mister Mendez. Were was that, was that did the did you get winded? Or was it just sort of like, yeah. This is kind of it's about time.

And This is what I've been trying to do. I've been trying to avoid the other stuff, and now I've landed in this sort of the lane I wanna be in Yeah.

A little bit.

I mean Combo? I mean, I would I I I kind of. Yeah. I mean, I just felt I felt, like, terrified at all of those things, but, like, you're here now.

Right. You better fucking You better deliver.

You better deliver because And did

you find that you had a gear that you didn't know that that that could kind of boost you up and and so you don't didn't have a panic attack and you you you held your own? Yes?

I mean, I suppose what it was, I what what what really calmed me when it boils down to it, you're on set with 1 of the greatest living actors of all time.

And Paul Newman.

And Paul Newman. And both both of them, but very, very, very different actors. But Paul Newman, who I've, you know, idolized And watching him work, you realize, oh god. He's an actor.

Yeah. Mhmm.

And it just that sort of like that in itself was like, he's I can't talk to him about he wants he wanted to talk to me about racing cars. I was like, going 4 wheels? I mean yeah.

You know,

I guess, like he's, like, talking about, like, I mean, I just thought how why why the indie series was so much better than Grand Prix series. I was

like Yeah.

Yeah. Wow. He's like, I couldn't. But when it came down to it and watching and working him with him, I had a language that I could speak to him in because I'm an actor. He's an actor.

And he really is, you know and he'd struggle, and he'd he'd really be kinda trying to find it and things that I'd just be like,

oh, wow. Great.

That's that's what I that's what I do.

Oh, good.

And that and that that kind of just I thought so I can get, you know I mean He

forgets a line too sometimes.

Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. That's great. For sure. That's really cool.

Yeah. That's really interesting, that idea of of being with Paul Newman and watching him kind of Right. Find it in the scene.

The opposite effect of making you nervous that actually it calms you because you must have had a human.

Yeah. You must have had a complete like, your nerves must have been absolutely settled in that moment. I Yeah.

I'm I'm just like, we can we can do this. We can make this happen. We'll play.

We're, you know,

you know, we're suddenly we're like, you know, we're we're here to play. Great.

I I know how fascinating.

1 time, I was I was doing the bucket list with Jack Nicholson and Morgan Freeman. I was in scene with Jack Nicholson. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Yeah. And, and he turns to me, and he goes during rehearsal, he goes, do do you know what you mean when you say that line?

I go,

yeah. Do you? Like, what?

And You're

not you're

sick. I had to

say dick. Yeah. That's

and yeah.

I had to say that to relax myself because I couldn't believe I was in a movie with Jack Nicholson.

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Now, Daniel, when you were, very quickly after that sort of, vaulted into much more of a leadership position on the on the jobs that followed, did you take that experience with you as a leader and and see the younger actors, or the the the actors with lesser parts get a little sort of nervous? And did you did you did you lend some of that comfort to them by not not intentionally for getting a line, but, did you take some of those leadership lessons?

By being completely shit.

Yeah. Gotcha.

It really just settles everybody's nerves.

Oh my gosh. Fuck me. Take a panic attack.

That's that's how he's gonna do it. I I don't know. I mean, I might I feel like my part of my job is to you know, you you're on set. You know, I love being around actors. I love being you know, it's you know, it's like it's it's fun.

It's a long time. Yeah. Yeah. But if you have somebody who is, you know, there for a bit, short day I have a thing. It's like, you know, it's like the the my favorite movies, it's those small parts that zip out that you that make the movie sometimes.

It's

like Yeah.

You encourage them to be the best they can because it's like it's like, you know, it's like smallest cogs, all of that shit. You know? Sure.

Yeah. Yeah. No small parts. Just small actors. Exactly.

Yeah.

What about what about siblings? Do you have siblings?

I have a half brother

and a sister and older sister.

And, the different completely different career path than you.

Completely different. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm kind of the only actor in the family.

And I wanna talk about eggs that you just ate. Do you always watch what you eat when you're on doing these junkets? Like, you didn't wanna touch the potatoes. I was I was just watching you garble those eggs.

Sean knows, can he send a guy over to pick up the potatoes? There's somebody at your door right now, Daniel. If you don't mind, just real quick.

The potatoes under the door. No. Do you are you always like that, or did you go off the rails sometimes and and just I

mean I do. I mean, I don't I mean, I I don't I used to have a I used to swing Okay. On Bond the other day. Okay. Yeah.

Right. Here

we go.

That's that. That's not a good a good word. On Bond, I would you know, because of the intensity, I would sort of then spend the next, what, 3, 4 months sort of being drunk and eating.

Yeah.

Yeah. And and that Of course. That that's not good for you. So Yeah. I I, you know, so I don't I I I I stopped doing that and and sort of, like, said, okay.

Let's maintain my fitness. How about that?

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Because I always look great. Thank you.

But it does it gets it gets so hard after 50. Yeah? I mean, we're

all It's just it's just so depressing. Yeah. It's so depressing. I remember before I phoning my mom up a few years ago going, oh, my fingers are aching. I'm just I don't know.

Just welcome to my world.

Oh, yeah. You know,

it's just that it's just that sort of

these little hot spots on my hands now that, like, it hurts between this finger and this finger. And right at the base of the thumb there, it's like, like, what's going on?

I had this I had this treatment treatment the other day where they gave me this infrared thing where they kinda map your body infrared, and my hands were on fire. And they were, like, going, oh, what's wrong? And I'm, like, I don't know. What is wrong?

It's, like, no. It hurts. I'm not 20. Wait a second. Wait, Sean.

You did a symbol of no. JB, you did the map.

I did the

full body scan. Yeah.

Full body scan.

And it was, it was, thank God. It was all it was all good. But, it's kinda cool that they can do that now.

What did they find in the place where the human heart normally is?

Not much. There was, like, it's a little movie a little movie camera

roll Yeah.

In there. Yeah. Just a bunch of loose nuts and bolts.

Wait, Daniel. Also, also just meeting you for the first time. I I sense that your brain works really, really fast. Like, you're hyperintelligent, and and you kinda have to when you're doing all the things that you do. What do you do to

start, like getting that, Sean.

Really? I do. I get

I get that you're, like, what you your brain, like, works really, really fast. Like, you're eating the eggs, and you're finishing the story, and then you're going like, you never dummy. Okay. Well, I know that's what I'm saying.

Sean's so shocked.

How is he chewing

and walking at

the same time? Sean by the way, this is coming from a guy who spends, like, a a Monday afternoon, mid afternoon watching videos of

childbirth. So

so it's

not like he he doesn't have a lot going on.

Yeah. It's gonna feel like a compliment's coming, but the curve

is Yeah.

The bar the bar is the bar could be fucking lower. No.

It is a big compliment because you have to think you constantly have to think fast of what you do. You're like, the camera's there, my line's here, blah blah blah blah blah blah. And you have kids and you have the thing. So your mind's always going, what do you do to calm down?

I don't know. I mean, it's just being at home, and and and I like to I I I I really, really, really don't play tennis. I'm so terrible. But if I can convince a, you know, like, a tennis pro or someone to to hit a ball with me, I'll do that for 2, 3 hours at a time. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just kinda like and, you know

No golf for you?

Yeah. Where is what's the screen? Ruin ruins a good walk. What are you talking about? Yeah.

Yeah.

But it is a nice walk. But it

is a

great, great walk.

I love that. Now what about now you you've been to all these incredible in all the films you've done, all these incredible locations around the world. Is there a spot that that calms you more than any, a favorite spot?

I think if I'm gonna really relax, the the sea is, like, the place I wanna be because it's like I

I'm with you.

I I just want the I want the salt water, and I want the the sun, and I just and and my body kind of, again, with the aches and the pains. Yeah.

Yep. You're not a boat guy, though, are you? Are you a guy that Not really.

No. They're kind of they're they're they're kind of a lot of hard work.

I know. Right?

I have, like, 2 fan stuff that can we can we just get it out of the way?

You have 1, man. Want

it because Scotty, my husband, and I watch watched all your films, like, a billion times. The, Javier Bardem and you probably have the greatest hero villain chemistry of all time. Like, just incredible. What do you did you Tell

Tracy tell Tracy what that's for.

Tracy's that's from, oh my god. That's from,

Skyfall.

Skyfall. Thanks. That is Skyfall. And, do you, Adele? You have to sing Adele whenever you say the Nutanix.

Go ahead with the question. No. The no.

I just it's just a comment, not a question. It's just a comment. Like, that was incredible. And do you guys still do you still keep in touch with Javier?

See, I talk to him occasionally, and, yes, I love him to death. He's just he's less like he's

a So good.

Glorious human being.

So good.

And then the other thing was and you can think about it while we talk about other stuff unless you have to go, is this great theater story? I was asked, like, people with theater stories

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Like, scenes falling, like, people throwing up on stage, like, anything like that.

I've done

all that. I've done all that. Really? Yeah. I've done all that.

I've done you name it.

The amount

of theater you've done is just stunning. I've I've done it. I've it's happened on stage.

What do you think was the worst thing that happened where you were, like,

fucked up

Stop the show.

Or like an audience member?

Yeah. I don't I'm I haven't it hasn't I mean, I've I've I've been at the theater when it was actually, Liev Schreiber was doing what are they doing? View View View From the Bridge, but, where literally someone had a thing, an attack, and Liev actually got to say, is there a doctor in the house? I mean,

it's like, oh, no. Wow. It's like

real thing.

The guy

was fine, and it was all good. Oh, wow. Like, yeah. They stopped the show and did theater.

So the the amount of of work that goes into, doing theater at the level that that you've done and that Sean just did, is it, I'm I'm I'm sure you can't compare that to the kind of rigor it takes to get through a huge, huge film. But is it somewhat comparable? And if so, which do you prefer, as far as what takes most out of you?

I think a movie takes the most out of you because I think it's a 7 day a week job. It's not that you can't get there's no day off really because there's always something to do on whatever that yeah. Either you're doing a 5 day a week, you're doing a 6 day a week. You you you you've got it kind of you're you're either rehearsing something or you're Studying. Studying something or you so so that that there's the intensity of that is like there's nothing.

And a play, once it's up and running, gets its own kind of momentum. I mean, if it's an emotionally difficult play, then, obviously, it's kind of like it gets you know? But you sort of tend to be able to kind of, like, spend the day not thinking about it Yeah. Yeah.

And then

go and do it.

Do you see yourself, staying on screen, until you're old and gray and in the ground, or would you like to sort of throttle back and just have the last section of your life whenever that starts just on theater? Because that's something that I kinda fantasize about. It's just, like, moving to New York and The

simple life.

Becoming a theater actor Yeah. And and just, like, riding my bike to the theater.

I I I that's it's very attractive. Yeah.

Right? Yeah. I mean, I

I don't I I don't know. It depend depends how big the bills are, isn't it? Right?

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's true.

I mean, I mean

Well, back to the TV stars.

Yeah. Exactly. Well, I mean, right. So I don't know. I worked with I did work with Gielgud.

Yeah. I worked with Gielgud on 2 jobs. He was actually in the power of 1. I, you know, played the headmaster at this school, and I did I had a scene with him, but I met him. I met him around the back of the set because I'd gone around to have a cigarette back in the day when I smoked.

And, there he was smoking. And he he kinda went, oh, don't tell anybody I'm not supposed to be smoking. And I was like, we had a cigarette together and then a chat, which was like, you know. And then I did Elizabeth about 10 years later, and he must have been well into his nineties by then. Wow.

And it was kinda, why is he working? Right. Because his because his boyfriend liked diamonds. I mean, it was kind of like he was like, that was the response of you know, is that and, he, he was wheeled in, and I kind of thought thought I had the scene with him just to sort of, like he was playing the pope, and I was playing this a Jesuit mass murderer. This easy role.

And he I just sort of I kind of went and sort of took care of him. I was my my instinct was to sort of tell us, how are you? Right. You probably don't remember. We had a cigarette together in the hall of policy because he didn't remember.

And but he was like he was like, I could see the age. It was like, oh my god. Wow. He's really kind of he's is he gonna be able to remember his lines? The board went on.

Bang. Just showed up. Yeah.

I I like the back went up when he was just like and he did the scene. Like, it was like, oh, man. Blew everybody away. And then kinda went back and was like, wow. That's that's Yeah.

And I kind of was like, that's amazing. But I was also kind of like I've been I don't know if you've ever ridden a horse in a movie. They have Yes. They have to retire movie horses because they they learn the board. You know?

They learn

When the slate comes in and they hit it, whack, it's time to go.

So I've been I've sat on horses that are kinda like, where are you? You know? You know? Because I don't ride very well. So stick him on that neck.

You know? It's because it's like and they're kind of like there trying to pull its head up, trying to look cool. It's just like looking like it's gonna die. And they put the board on, and it's like as,

oh my god. Jesus Christ.

And they have and they're not.

They have to retire these horses. And I thought, oh my god. You're a film horse. That's kinda what do I wanna turn into a film

horse? Wow.

When that

road goes on, oh, yeah.

Here we are.

Hey. Right. Take quite a

bit of at

the same time, I mean, there maybe there's a little bit of sort of, wisdom in in staying active in that way is part of the reason that he was able to to stay, you know, be allowed into his nineties. I mean,

maybe do a crossword. I don't know.

But Yeah. Because otherwise, he is in Yeah. He's in Portugal, right? No.

Totally. Totally. I get it. You know? And and how how I mean, going back to that hysteria at the at the at the, at the in the school play.

That thing, that drug, that thing that gets you at

the point.

See, that's why I brought it back now. It's really good for

me. No. I like it. I I like it. I kinda wanted to get back I'm glad you you mentioned that because I kinda wanted to go back to that moment you're in the theater and go all the way back to the moment you're in the theater and you're watching Blade Runner.

Because it really made me think about I was gonna bring this up before about and I was gonna ask you guys. What what is that thing? What was that sort of that that seminal

moment in your life?

What was the film, the book that you read? And do you go back and still because I I have found now that I'm in my fifties. I'm now relooking for moments like that where I get inspired. I'm reading a book right now that

I've midlife crisis. It is

a midlife crisis. Believe me. I should I should be wearing a fucking hat the last 10 years that said ask me about my midlife crisis. Yeah. But but but, and yes, I had a Porsche, obviously, and I've had but all of that do do do, you know, do you guys have you guys had those moments?

Do you remember being young in a book or a film or something? You went,

like Mine is 11 years old. I was 11 years old. My brother took me for my 11th birthday. My brother Kevin took me to go see ET. And I was 11 years old, and I and everybody in the theater was crying as they were at the end.

And I said my brother I got I said I'd give anything to be him. And my brother thought, like, the fantasy, like, oh, Elliot to have a friend like E. T. And I go, no. I'd give anything to be Henry Thomas.

Mhmm. Uh-huh. Elliott. The actor. And my brother's like, the actor?

And I was like, yeah. To make people feel that? Yeah. That would be amazing.

JB, anything? Do you remember

a movie you were inspired by something? Matthew Broaddrick too, Brighton Beach Memoirs on Broadway.

I was like, I think

I was, like, 15 or

something, and I I could've gone I could there was, like, I was a fork in the road. I could've stopped doing what I was doing. But I saw him do that, and I just had such a good time. And I was, like, oh, I wanna I wanna I wanna I wanna do that.

Keep on

doing that. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I for me, it was it wasn't even singing. For me, it was I'm the I was 17. I remember this so clearly.

And I read On the Road by Jack Kerouac. And it sounds so cliche, but it fuck I was like, you can get out into the world? And that was actually spurred me to go, I can move to New York. And I moved when I was 20. And it was like, yeah, Fucking Carowatt.

That's what you Where did

you grow up?

That in Toronto.

Oh, but I'm sorry.

In Canada. And you're like, that's what you do. If you wanna be out in the world, you gotta get out into the world. And it's and that really spurred me on for the rest of my life, I think.

I love that. Daniel, what's what's gonna happen with with you really for the rest of the day? And by the way,

we're gonna talk about queer. I want I wanna hear a little bit about queer. So queer is out December 13th.

You you

read the script. You you think immediately. Do you think about the character? Are you thinking about that incredible director, Luca Guadagnino? Or or or what?

What's going through your mind? Is it quick yes

or yeah. Yeah. All of that. That's like I mean, I just I wanted to work with Luca. I think he's, you know, he's just a really Incredible.

Just exciting, kind of out there director who's just pushing it.

But so it was a pretty quick yes. Yes?

Totally. Yeah.

Yeah.

And the script, you know, was I mean, yeah. I mean, the getting offered a really complicated, interesting, funny, sad human being to play is gonna be a

little I can't wait to see it.

I I know.

Try. I know. Me too.

Me too. Me too. Congratulations on that.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.

Yeah. Alright. You're done. You've done great. Yeah.

Now you can get wet cold eggs there. I'm very sorry you That's alright.

I'm gonna

I'm just I'm just not gonna eat the potatoes in front of you.

Sean will be here soon.

But that's

my personal I've got a problem with that, but it's No. I'll

I'll I'll

I'll take him

off your hand.

To go to a dock covered in e potatoes.

Wait, Daniel. How how like, do you do you live in the UK?

I do. I lived in New York, I lived in New York for nearly 20 years. No. 15 years, but, and moved moved back to London. There's some of this And

do

you love do you love visiting LA? Or you're like, I'm in, I'm

out? Yeah.

I mean, I I I it's kind of it's it's, you know, it's love, hate, all that things. Like, I really I do love this, and I love California, and I love I just I went to the desert for a couple of days before I started this to get some kind of r and r. Good. Yeah. Okay.

And, you know, it's like there's no no place like this on Earth. And then I wanna go and then I wanna leave really quickly. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Now, dude, last question. Do you do you do you still follow Liverpool at all? Or do you Yes. Yeah.

You do? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do.

Yeah. Bye. Okay. Thank you. I I don't know how to stop this.

I'm gonna

stop you. There you go.

Now there's there's there's there's there's a guy's guy. He's he's a he's a woman's guy too.

Yep.

And he slammed the computer. You know? That's a great a great sign.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's your you love that, JB.

I really do.

He is. He's great. Like, you know, it's how do you talk to him without bringing up James Bond? I I can't tell if he's sick of it or I

think we did a good job of not peppering him with all the shit he's been asked, maybe. I don't know. I've never seen an interview with him.

I mean, but it's good. I always say this on this on on this little podcast of ours. It's like, when I meet people I've never met before like that, I'm huge fans. Of course, I wanna ask him all the fan questions, but I'm nervous. Yeah.

I know. You know?

Like How many films have you seen a 1,000,000,000 times? I wanna get it down to your numbers now.

Yeah. I mean, I've honestly, I've seen that so many times because I've seen all of them so many times. But Skyfall is Scotty's favorite, and we've seen that many times. That's incredible.

It's really

Skyfall, you've never seen Skyfall.

The 1. Right?

Oh, it's so good.

Wait. Are you kidding, Jay?

It's so good. Well, invite me over for Christ's sake.

Oh, wait. Jason, Skyfall is amazing.

Yeah. It's amazing.

Oh, what is that? You love Javier Bardem. He takes his teeth out, and it's fucking crazy.

Spoiler alert. Wait. What's your favorite line that he ever said?

Oh, yeah.

Well, no. I would say

Oh, this my ear. I I hear it through my ear.

Take your hand away from your ear.

Take your hand. Take your hand away from your ear.

Oh, a little line. Yeah. Really little No.

Because it

kicked out of the way. Bond around? That that was another 1.

No. But but,

Go ahead. Go ahead, Sean.

Oh, Sean. They say Chase, Sean. I know you were gonna say, fuck me, dude. Watching your face try to

because he looks down at the computer because he kinda works on them, I think.

Of course, he does.

No. No. I I had 1. I have 1.

Have we ever gotten a bunch of rec a bunch of suggestions from our listeners of what what we can do for our buys? I know, but do we have a portal for them to to fill?

A portal?

Can you fill our portal?

What do you mean?

Or some sort of a site they can put all these recommendations so we can stop listening to Sean's shitty buys.

But but also it's not the shitty buys. No. It's not. It's the way he goes it's the way he goes blah blah blah, and he goes, yeah. So also I was thinking that, and you're like, fuck, dude.

Here it comes. What are you doing?

I was gonna say, what does Stye? What does Jason Stye rhyme with?

No. That's no good. Will you get 1?

I don't have 1.

That's fine. Let's, I'm no. I'm glad that it's,

you know guest related. You know? It should be tied into the guest somehow.

Well, I mean

Skyfall, its original title was bye.

Sounds like you got yourselves in a little bind.

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