Transcript of Super Bowl 60, Seahawks Dominant Win, Sam Darnold SB Winner, Hank's Recap From Santa Clara And Soggy Sorrows + Who's Back Of The Week

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He was at the game. We're going to talk to him. We're going to do Who's Back of the Week. It is the final football Monday of the season, and it is brought to you by our friends at Pepsi. Thank you, Pepsi, for sponsoring us all Super Bowl week and into the recap show. We love Pepsi. We love self-discovery, re-deciding. Hey, listen, you thought things one way, now you think things this way. That is what Pepsi has shown us all week. Pepsi Super Bowl 60 spot brings light to a similar phenomenon of discovery and truth, the Pepsi paradox. The idea that when labels and bias disappear, cola drinkers prefer the taste of Pepsi, a phenomenon that blind taste tests have repeatedly proven in the 2025 revival of the Pepsi Challenge. 66% of participants agreed Pepsi Zero Sugar tastes better than Coca-Cola Zero Sugar. Pepsi wins on taste. Sometimes you have to flip your world upside down to discover what's been right there in front of you the entire time. So go out and try Pepsi Zero Sugar today. Let your taste decide. Okay, PFT and I are going to take the Pepsi challenge right now. We have our Pepsi challenge box, and as we open it, it is a blind taste test.

Pepsi, they really did it. I got two straws, and if you can see the cans, you can't see what's in each can. I'm going to open them. It's a blind taste test. Pft, you ready to go?

I'm ready to go. They covered up both of them, so I don't know which one's which. I'm all about self-discovery. You know that, Big Cat? I want to find out a little bit more about myself. Am I a Pepsi guy or am I a Coke Zero guy? Pepsi Zero, Sugar, and Coke Zero. I'm going to go right first.

Okay. Can A or can B? Which one did you try first?

I tried can B first.

Okay, I'll try can A first.

Can B is pretty good.

I'm going to say I don't really like can A.

I'm going to say it. I might be wrong. Max, you were the only one that got this wrong, right?

We don't have to bring that up.

I hope that I'm right because I'm about to say something.

Yeah.

It's Can B, and it's not close.

It's Can B all day, every day for me. I'm going to reveal. Here we go. Can A is on your left. I'm going to reveal what Can A is for me. My official vote's Can B. I like Can B. Can A is Coke Zero Sugar. So you got it right. Can B is Pepsi Zero Sugar. Nailed it.

I'm going to reveal the one that I liked. It was Can B, the one on my right. I'm going to take it out.

Take it out. What do you got? Please be black.

Yeah, I knew it. Let's go. That's a Pepsi Zero Sugar, and Can A is on the losing bracket. Love it. That's tough. Tough break for Coke Zero, but Pepsi Zero Sugar, hands down. Not even close.

Okay, so go out and try Pepsi Zero Sugar today. Let your taste decide and take the Pepsi challenge. Thank you to Pepsi. Okay, let's go. Hey, football guy, but D, the KW head. Pardon, mind, take.

Yeah.

Pardon, mind, take. Yeah. Pardon, mind, take. Yeah. Pardon, mind, take. Yeah. Welcome to Part of My Take, presented by DraftKings. The Crown is yours. Today is Monday, February ninth, and it is Super Bowl 60.

What, what, Some spread.

Some spread. The Schwam.

Back on the grounds of Candlestick Park, where a young Schwam saw the catch.

And we head out to Santa Clara, where our guy Zack, he's out of the hotel room, no longer has a 105-degrees fever. What? He's ready to go. Zack. What?

In Dundee, San Francisco. Early on, it saw Jason Myers, the Rulo, hitting, What you All day, field goal kicks all day. Well, of course he did, What you say, what you say, kicking field goals all day. But wait, Sam Ronald McDonald throws a double cheese countdown, please, to A. J. Barners and Noble, who reads between the Patriest's defensive lines quicker than those disclaimers on medication commercials, resulting in a Seahawks' 6 points. Shortly after, Aubrey Drake May Graham was thinking, No new friends, no new friends, no new friends, no, no, no. What a toss to his pal, McHolland's Day's Sauce Collins, who poaches the pass, bringing it down to the end zone for six points. Finally, Como se dice Draco Malfoy may gets muy caliente, shouting, Scared, Arnold? As he drops back and airs one out. Step to step by step, The Dipper's on the day by Ramondre. A fresh start over, different down to play. The deeper Drake drops, the shorter he slangs. Maybe they'll be better the second time around. Seahawks 29, Patriots 13.

Great job, Zack. Incredible job. Tough to do a boomer on that game. Let's just say that. A lot of field goals.

All the field goals, boom.

That was a great job, Zack. All right.

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Check out the current offers and build your own Chevy Silverado at chevy. Com. Okay, and that was fastest two minutes for Super Bowl 60 and the Seattle Seahawks are Super Bowl champions. An absolute master class by Mike McDonald, his defense, Kenneth Walker, Super Bowl MVP, Jason Myers, points, points, points. It was PFT. It was an ass-kicking.

Ass-kicking. As thoroughly dominant a Super Bowl performance as I can recall in the last 11 months and 30 days, it was domination from start to finish. The score ended up not being as close. The score looks a lot closer than the game was. It doesn't do it justice. Yeah, because it was ugly early. It was ugly middle, it was ugly late.

The Seahawks, it felt like in the fourth quarter, they were like, Hey, we just got to get this game over with. Through three quarters, the Patriots had 78 total yards of offense in five first downs. That's what they were doing to them. Hank is here. We're going to break down the game after Hank leaves a little bit more and give all the credit to the Seahawks who they deserve a ton of credit and all the story lines. I'm so happy for Sam Darnold. Just everything about this team has been... They were just dominant throughout the playoffs this entire season. Were the champions start to finish.

They were the best team in the regular season. Every team not named the Rams, put together, averaged 14 points against the Seahawks. The Rams averaged just over 28 points against the Seahawks. They were the one team that could do it. And in the playoffs, that trend kept continuing on, and they doubled up their opponents. They scored over 100 points. They allowed 46 points total during the playoffs. They were the The best team in the league, so a deserving champion.

Yeah, and Sam Darnold, I'm just so happy for it. It's crazy to think about that in the 2018 draft, it was Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen. He is the first one to win the Super Bowl. Obviously, Josh Rosen as well, I don't think he's going to win a Super Bowl. First one to win a Super Bowl out of that group.

It also is- He might actually be the first to win one as an owner. Yeah. One day, he might just make a ton of money in commercial real estate.

Yeah, Josh Rosen. It's also fitting for Sam Darnold because it felt like the last two years, we basically spent being like, Will he turn back into a pumpkin? Then you had the end of last year happen. It's like, Oh, see, that's Sam Darnold. Then this year happens like, Oh, maybe it's different. He has the NFC Championship game, which was his defining win as a quarterback in terms of how he played. He played a perfect game. Pretty much everyone in the world was like, Sam Darnold, he wins a big game. He's not going to turn back into a pumpkin, except Patriots fans who are facing in the Super Bowl being like, We know Sam Darnold. He's the guy who sees ghosts. The final hurdle of beating a team and getting everyone to switch the narrative of Sam Darnold, you can win a Super Bowl with that guy. He does it. Yeah, it wasn't the He didn't have to put his team on the back, but he did do it. It's not a Trent Dilfer situation. It's not one of those along for the ride, Payton Manning, 2015. The way he won the NFC Championship Game cannot be forgotten because that was probably the Super Bowl.

I'm just so happy for him.

I'm very happy for Sam Darnal. Very happy for Seahawks fans. Very happy for the current ownership group who will now get to put up for sale a Super Bowl champion team. Price of the bag just went up for the Seahawks. Big time. Big time. If you want to buy a trophy, Bill Gates, you're in Seattle, you don't have a trophy wife. Yeah.

Maybe- You get some other issues.

You're used to scouting 19-year-olds Bill Gates. Maybe get some good publicity for a change.

Yeah, this is-You wouldn't be the only owner.

This was dominant. This was a dominant performance, and there'll be plenty of time to have the conversation. I don't want to be the one to start it, but when the two teams made it to the Super Bowl after the Championship Games, we said there would be the discussion of if this was the is this the worst team to ever play in the Super Bowl for the Patriots. I don't want to be the first to have the discussion, but other people will ask this question, is this the worst team to ever play in the Super Bowl in regards to the New England Patriots?

Hank? Hello. Oh, are you there? Hey, Hank.

What's up? What's up, guys?

How are you doing?

You good?

Yeah, I'm here.

Did you hear everything we said?

I've been listening. I've heard you guys. I think the answer is no, PFT, but I don't have stats, so you can already ask me, Oh, what about stats? I don't have any. I'm going to go with no, though.

Okay. Well, I would agree with you because the Patriots, they did. They scored 13 points one other time in the Super Bowl, right? And they beat the Rams.

Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, the Patriots defense came to play. Like, they... Sam Darnold, I will give credit to Sam Darnold. That was one of those people that thought he was going to turn into a pumpkin. He had some throws early in the game that felt like the Patriots were right there, tip balls. They had the DBs coming in. Felt like they were going to pick them off. The González played at the end of the half, thought that was going to be an interception. So I felt like it was all night and never did. But he played well. He did play well.

Walk us through. Let's just go through the whole day. Let's go through the vibes, what time you got to the stadium, the suite, what did you eat in the suite, what your thoughts are throughout the game. We want to hear it all.

I'm not going to lie, the vibes were so high. At one point, I was like, I feel like we live a life of surrealness after surrealness after surrealness. It's just a constant stream of surreal moments after surreal moments. I did have a point in the suite where I was like, this cannot be my life right now. I cannot believe I'm in this suite. It's perfect weather. We're two hours before the kick of the Super Bowl. I'm with my favorite people. This is unbelievable. Before that, though, even because obviously it's an hour, hour plus drive, we took a bus. So we took a party bus with 20 Patriots fans. Shout out to Dave. Just so generous to bring all the All the Patriots fans from Bar-Soul to the game. So we're on a party bus with 20 people, blasting music, getting ready to go. Everyone's excited. Everyone's fired up. Everyone's high-fiving each other. Just really, really excited. Walk in, get to the suite. No hiccups either. No traffic. We park, we walk 15 minutes, walk right into the stadium, no issues getting in, no delays, nothing. Just get right in. And then we're just in a suite and it's like, Oh, my God.

We're playing for the Super Bowl in three 3 hours. What is better than this? I did truly have a moment where I was maybe tearing up a little bit and I was like, I cannot believe this is my life. I actually cannot believe that it was real life. That's how amazing It was amazing.

It was before the game. It seemed like a very cool environment. I do want to ask about Dr. Hank, because Dr. Hank did report pregame that Drake May was getting warmed up slinging missiles.

Yeah, you're welcome. Mission accomplished.

To who?

You guys have been begging for Dr. Hank. Oh, yeah.

I would have preferred a lab code on your Twitter profile. But yeah, no, that was good. Dr. Hank showed up. Now, so you're at the suite. Were you next to Mark Davis?

Yep. Mark Davis was in the suite next to us. I actually don't know if we're going to say this on the air, but yes, Mark Davis was in the suite next to us. What?

What?

It's not for air, so I'm not going to say it.

Who was it? I don't understand why it's not for air.

Tell us. You didn't text us anything throughout the game.

Well, no, Gaz sent me the picture of Mark Davis. He's like, You want me to send to Big Gas? I was like, Yeah, just send him to him. I knew, obviously, that he'd send you the picture of us with Mark Davis. I said, What up to him? He said, We'd love to have you on the show. He just shook his head. So that was pretty much like when we stalked him in Vegas.

Yeah, we're over for three now on Mark Davis.

You were doing a good job. You were thinking of the podcast.

I appreciate that.

Yeah.

And it was similar. It was a similar experience.

Yeah. Yeah.

Mark Davis was next to us. Gavin Newsom was next to us. Dante turtled like a fucking... I can't say a word to him, but that was funny. I kept looking to my left and Gavin Newsom was just right there.

Yeah.

Who had better hair? Jim gray. Mark Davis.

Jim gray was in there.

Mark Davis or Gavin Newsom?

Mark Davis.

Mark Davis was like, chrome white.

Yeah. I have a question, Hank. If Mark Davis was there, were there any other members of the Raiders' ownership that were in the box next to yours?

There was not. We thought that braided was coming up. He did not. We knew it was the Raiders box before any of them even showed up. And then we saw Mark Davis show up. We're like, Oh, shit. Braided actually might show up. And then Jim gray showed up, and it's like, braided is coming into this box, box of the Year. But he did not.

What's the name of the podcast Let's go. Yeah, let's go. Let's Go. Let's Go.

And John Ham was next to you, too, right?

No, that was a different box. We were in one box on one floor, and then a bunch of other guys were with DraftKings Sportsbook. They were in the DraftKings Sportsbook. It was like Biz, Grinnell,, Pat. They were with John Ham. And then, braided went into that box. So it was funny where we saw Jim gray and Mark Davis. We got all excited and nervous, being like, Oh, my God, He was going to come up. And then he actually never did. And he was actually in the other box with the other Patriots fans, whatever.

Okay, so game starts. What's going through your head to start the game? Because you had literally nothing to cheer for, actually, pretty much nothing to cheer for. But at what point were you like, Oh, this is a problem. This is a defense that maybe we're not going to be able to overcome. And also, they do have an offense, Kenneth Walker running the ball down our dick.

I wasn't overly concerned until probably midway through the third quarter. I don't know what it looked like on the broadcast. I don't know if it was confirmed, but it looked very much to me like the first drive, the completionist Cooper Cup on the sidelines, he bobbled it and went out of bounds.

Yeah, he did.

I don't know why they didn't challenge that in real-time. That was like, That's a bobble. And then it clearly was a bobble. If they reviewed it and it gets overturned, they don't even get a field goal. Who knows?

Who knows? You could have lost by like... Yeah, you could have lost a little slower.

The Patriots defense was keeping us in the game. They were bending, not breaking. To answer your question, the whole first half, I felt confident. I felt like, Sam Darnold has a duck in him. We're going to get some points. We're only down one score, two scores. It's a nine-point game at halftime. We're very much in this. We just need one thing to break our way is how I was going into halftime.

I actually grew that- Worst fucking halftime show of all time.

We're stuck in halftime.

Okay. We'll get to that in a second. Being down 12-0, I actually agree with you that if that's all you're down, considering how bad that first half was. You're not in a bad spot because you think, Yeah, second half, we could come out hot, they could come out flat, and then we got a game. We score one shutdown, and this is a ball game.

I have one question, Hank, in that. Let's just say, let's go back in time and say Cooper Cup does bobble that, which I actually think we said in the cave, we're like, I don't think he caught that, but they got the line fast enough. Let's say that's challenged, overturned. How does the rest of the game go?

I think we win. Yeah, I think.

Okay, that's it. So that was the play?

Yeah, I think sliding doors, you know. Yeah.

So going into halftime, I know that you were saying their offense didn't look great. Their running game was pretty good, But Sam Darnold, he had a couple of shaky moments. Did you have any shaky moments with Drake May in that first half?

Will Campbell more so. I feel like Drake may's shaky moments came in the second half. The play calling was shaky, I would say. They were just calling screens. There was a lot of screen calls. There was the one possession where they needed three plays to get one yard and they couldn't do it. But I don't know. It was Super Bowl Super Bowl nerves, I was not... Like I said, it's the Super Bowl. If you're within two scores, you're in it. I was not... As bad as it looked, I actually felt okay about it because it was like, that was the worst half you could possibly have. We're only down nine points.

Hank's Super Bowl halftime review. I didn't think it was that bad. I don't think that Mincey was terrible.

What was your favorite song? Yeah, give me your favorite song, PFT. What was your favorite part?

Probably San Francisco. I'm talking about the Mincey halftime show.

Yeah, Mincey did a Bob Weer tribute, and I I said when Mincey went into Althea, I actually said in the cave, I was like, It's good that Bob Weer is dead because he shouldn't be hearing this. That's how bad it was. So PFT is shredded, by the way.

I don't know. Mincey said I was playing guitar, I didn't see me. I saw the Oregon Duck was playing guitar. I love Bob Weer, and thank God he didn't see that.

So I appreciate that. But you thought Bad Bunny was bad?

That half-time performance so bad. I might have changed my stance on international football forever.

Let's go.

You know that Puerto Rico is part of the United States.

But why would... I don't know. It's a slippery slope I'm going down, but it was fucking horrible. The only good part was Gaga. Gaga tried to save it. I don't know what the demographics of fans are in that game. I know Bad Bunny is the biggest artist in the world.

Hank, it literally is what we've been warning you about.

It was horrible.

It was horrible. I actually thought, I don't know any Bad Bunny songs. I thought the energy was cool. Anytime you throw in some brass instruments, it's pretty cool. But yeah, it wasn't for me. But Hank, we've been warning you about this. This was Roger Goodell trying to get an international audience. This is what we've been telling you, and you've been just pooh-poohing us.

I was watching it, and I was like, who is this for? What is the point of this? This is America. This is a fucking Super Bowl. Give me someone else. And then I realized, yeah, maybe you know what? Maybe Big Cat and PFT were right.

Yeah, we were. Thank you for saying that. We were. It takes a big man to admit that we're right. Is there anything else that we're right about?

Gaga crushed. She was really good. Loved seeing Lady Gaga out there. Already Cardi B. I actually knew Cardi B was on one of the songs, and he played that song. She did not perform. I thought that might have turned the team around. Yeah. Cajita was my favorite Only Bad Bunny song I really know, and he didn't play that, so I'm pissed about that. The Jets before, from the box, it was a roof, so I couldn't see what type of planes were flying over before the game.

Yeah.

There was an in-house band that was playing in a lot of commercials. That was really good.

Spectacular flyover before the end. Would you like to know the kinds of jets that they were?

Yeah.

Okay, so we had two F-15 eagles. I think they were the F-15 East Strike eagles. Oh, they're eagles? Strike eagles. Yeah, go birds. Then we had two single Hornets out there. I believe they were the Super Hornets. How is that possible? They might have been the E18 Grouiller. It's the same plane, but I think they were Super Hornets. Then two F-35s, the Lightning on the outside. And then the one in the middle was the B1 Lancer. And that's the one that flew by your apartment for the Air and Water show, Hank.

That's awesome. Yeah, I was pissed. I didn't get a better look at that. Okay. As far as the food goes, we had pizza. We had some really good crab cake rolls. They're not crab cake, but like crab rolls, slatters, some Mortadella max, you would like that. A lot of popcorn. Nice. So, yeah, that was a spread. Nice. Some Yeah.

Okay, let's talk about the second half. And then I think- Going back to half time, too.

Bad Bunny. They had all these people come out in bushes and set up in the maze, and I thought they were going to be dancing, but they weren't. They didn't dance at all, so that was a little disappointing. So choreography was solid. The stage performance, the way they set up the stage, it was very Broadway-esque. Yeah, you're a big theater guy. Yeah. The no English songs was tough. Yeah.

I mean, you could barely speak English. This is NFL.

It's football. It's America. It's America's like, What are we doing?

Yeah, right. All right. So, Hank, let's do this. We're going to do the second half. Why grow the game? The second half. Let's get your second half thoughts, and then I think we'll do question time after. Does that feel like maybe a Henry Lockwood press conference that we could all go around just ask you questions. Before we do the second half, Hank, so collect your thoughts here. Draftkings, every week in the NBA, stars rise, legends are made, and one player rules them all. Draftkings, sportsbook and official sports betting partner. The NBA is bringing back King of the Court. Now it's every Tuesday of the season. Here's how it works. Draftkings is putting up one million in bonus bets each week. Opt in, apply your token, place a $5 pregame bet on the NBA star you think will dominate each Tuesday. If your pick finishes the night leading the league in points, rebounds, and assists, they're crowned King of the Court, and you win your share of one million in bonus bets. And this season, there's a new way to track the action. The King of the Court leaderboard inside the app before tip-off. See the top 10 stars in points, rebounds, and assists.

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Yeah.

Yeah. So walk us through it. What's going on?

We're going three and out. Then I was like, All right, this is going to be the time. I might have to take a walk, start walking around the concourse. They didn't have TVs everywhere, so I was watching the game the whole time, but I was trying to switch up the vibe, switch up... Because we had a chance at the end of the second half where it was like, Oh, we can score, going to halftime, score again. Obviously, did not do that. And then the first drive of the second half, we just went three an hour right away. I was like, This is bad. It started to set in like, This is going south, and it might not ever be going north. I don't know what else you want. Second Half was a disaster. The third quarter was a disaster. The third quarter is where my dreams died.

When, specifically?

The realization of $100,000 coming my way was not happening. I was going to have to come on this fucking show and just deal with this.

I forgot. That was your money. I thought that was PFT's bet.

Well, yeah, he would have gotten $80,000.

That was your bet.

I did put the bet in, and I was rooting really hard for it, and I'm bummed out, too. So, yeah, I hear I didn't want to do this show afterwards either, being in a bad mood. When specifically would you say that your dreams died in the third quarter? Good question. Thank you.

I don't know. The fumble?

The Fumbler. The Yeah, the fumble. The fumble was bad.

Wait, hang on. Let me look up that fumble because I'm having a hard time remembering when it was. It was at the very end of the third quarter, right? Yeah, that was third and six. Oh. Sixteen seconds left in the third quarter. Third and six. Drake may sack fumble, Seahawks recover. They initially said it was third and five, but I went back and I looked it up, and they actually changed it after the fact. Now in the official score sheet, it does say third and six.

So you think like, Drake may just subconsciously knew this feels more like a third and six?

He knew. I'm in trouble. They probably just saw the fumbling. They're like, Well, that was definitely a third and six.

That's what happened. Will Campbell didn't really die for that one. No. I think he said he'd die for Drake May. That one was right there on the floor.

I actually thought that the Patriots might have a comeback in them when Matt Collins caught that breakdown. I thought good things might start to happen.

Did you start to think that, Hank?

Yeah.

Yeah, because that took it to... Actually, why didn't Mike Vrabel go for two there? Were you guys saying that in the suite? It was 19-0, 19-6. Obviously, in that situation, being down 12 and 13 points is the exact same versus being down 11 points where you could potentially go for two on another countdown and kick a field goal. It feels like you got to go for two there, and they didn't go for two.

Yeah, I was confused, but I didn't understand that either.

Okay. And then what about the Drake may touch on? So you weren't listening to the broadcast. I don't think I've ever heard a broadcaster do what Chris Collinsworth did in that moment. He just gave up and said, I don't even know what that was.

Oh, the interception. Yeah, the interception.

He was just like, I don't know why he ever thought that would be a completion.

It was right after he hit... It was out of their own end zone. I think he hit Stevenson. I think it was Stevenson on that little swing pass when he was getting the blitz from his strong side, from his front side. He made a real quick decision to go out. Stevenson hurtled over guy, I think, on that play. Then Collinsworth was like, Drake may have really seen the game right now. Things are speeding up for him. This is a good thing. Then it might have been the next pass attempt that he had was that deep pick. No, that might have been like a pass in a triple coverage, and then later there was a deep pick.

Yeah, it was just basically a fair catch.

I don't mind taking a shot there. I don't. It was not a great thrown ball. But on that drive, I imagine that you thought, This might happen. I've seen 28 to three. It could happen again. Yeah.

I don't know if it was on camera. I don't know if it was posted, but I'm pretty sure Fidelberg, it was right after that first down, the Ramondre catcher talked about in hurdle, right Before the interception, it felt like it was as he was dropping back to pass, Fidelberg was like, It's time to start believing. Oh, no.

And yeah.

Oh, no. So, yeah, there was belief. It was just a little bit like just tension in the first half. There was some real belief after the countdown. It felt like they scored that countdown drive in two seconds. It was like, We can't score in this team Oh, wait. Yes, we can. We basically had two plays and scored a shutdown. So it was like, All right, we cracked the code. We just got to get a stop, and then we can do this. And then... Yeah.

Yeah, because it was... You had stopped them. You scored a countdown, made it seven, stopped them, got the ball back, and then it was like, Oh, this could be something, and then it was not. Nothing. Do you think that the Patriots have a Super Bowl defense?

Yeah.

I think you do, too. I think Cristian González played incredibly. How cool were those plays that he made on defense, the diving stops?

They were awesome. I didn't realize how close he was to a pick at the end of the first half. There's a picture where he has balls on both his hands.

It was right there. He made the diving past deflection on Rasheed Shahid in the first quarter, I believe, which was an unreal play. Then he made that end of the first half where, yeah, he wasn't even... When you first saw it, you thought it was a bad throw by Sam Darnold, but it wasn't. It was just Christian Gonzales made an incredible play to close on the ball. Hank, do you want... And then when was It was officially, officially over? Was it that interception?

The pick six.

Oh, the pick six. Yeah, which wasn't... It could have been a fumblesick, but it was actually a pick six.

Yeah, I think they changed that afterwards. I can't imagine that the vibes were good, but who was having the toughest time in that box?

I don't know. I don't know. Gaz was as upset as I've ever seen him, vocally, I guess.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know. That's a tough question to answer.

Are you ready to go to question time? Do you want to go to question time? Do you want to say anything nice about the Seahawks before we go to question time?

I'll give respect to Sam Darnell. Not that I disrespect him, but I definitely, I guess, did not give him enough credit for how good he's gotten, and he managed that game well. He played well. I thought he was going to turn the ball over and give us at least seven. I literally thought it was at least seven. So credit to Sam Darnold. Situate greatness strikes again. Situate Mike. So credit to that. Credit to Situate. And yeah, that's it.

Okay. All right.

I'll also say this. I don't... Pft is like all time scumbag piece of shit. He's not smart enough to do this, I don't think, and he'll probably take credit for it, but there's no way. This is the fucking hotel where the Patriots team party was going to be.

I know. I'm aware.

Oh.

No way.

Are you going to go? No. All right. So a couple of days ago, we were talking about what we were going to do after the game, after the game was over. We thought, Hey, wouldn't it be great if we got a hotel room booked at the nearby hotel to the stadium so Hank didn't have to sit in traffic on the way back? He could just walk over to that hotel, record this podcast. It is the team hotel that the Patriots were going to be doing their after-party at tonight.

Did you know that when it was booked?

I looked it up online. Okay. I did find out that that was going to be where it was. Before or after it was booked? I was in the process of booking. It was before I completed the okay text to the booking person being like, Let's get this one.

I mean, that's an all-time... That's a good guy move.

Yeah, it's a really good guy.

That's why I didn't think it was like a scumbag. Why is that scumbag?

He was rooting for the Patriots, dude. He had a $40,000 bet on him.

Going into that, if Going into that, if you were like...

There's no way he was playing both sides of this one.

Hank, that's the best move that I've ever made for you.

Yeah.

That's better than the bet.

That would have been so... Yeah.

But wait, Hank, you're thinking about right now. Yeah. You're not thinking about... Do you Do you not remember PFT all last week? He put $40,000 on the Patriots.

Of my own money.

He went to the festival.

I did go to the fan fest with Hank. He gave a great speech, by the way, a great pump-up speech. It was basically like a lot of call and response. We all we got, right?

Yeah, we all we need.

Yeah, a lot of that. Are you ready for question time, Hank?

Yeah. Let her rip. Okay, let's go.

Let Let's start it easy for you. Zack, why don't you start?

What's up, Hank? I do want to say sorry for your last minute. Probably had to be a tough day. Quick question. Knowing what you know now... You sound like shit, Zack.

All good?

Knowing what you know now, seeing how the game played out, if you could make the call and go back, do you think Josh Dobbs give you a better chance of victory today?

That's Zack.

Great question.

I didn't know you had that in you, Zack.

You're a puppet, Zack. I'm sorry. I love you, but you're a puppet.

That's a good question. No.

That's a good question.

Yeah.

What?

No, I don't, Zack. Okay. Parenthesis, PFT. Parenthesis, piece of shit, scumbag.

Fuck you. I mean, you are seeing ghosts. You turned into a pumpkin, Hank. I had nothing to do with that.

Did someone give you that question?

No, I was just going to ask him. That's all good.

I don't think anyone gave me that question.

Hank, you think I'm the boogie man behind every curtain, pulling all the strings? That was just Zack. Now, to be fair, Hannah, I did send a question to Max, but I did not send that question to Zack.

I have another question on my own.

I can do it two for- I can do it two for. We have unlimited question time. We don't have to... No PR person is going to come and be like, Hey, you got to wrap this up. So we have unlimited questions. That's good. We can fire as many questions as we want. Go ahead, Max. You want to go?

Would you like me to do my original question or would you like to do- That's the point.

We have unlimited. It's bottomless questions. Okay.

Shockingly, you're I'm not going to think that this is the one that PFT sent to me, but it's the one that I had on my own. Looking at the Patriots run this playoff and looking at the Commanders run last playoff, do you find any similarities between the two?

No, Patriots made it a Super Bowl.

Okay, that's true.

Max actually did say this in the gambling cave.

Not my question. Yeah.

He said this, and we actually were like, Well, the Commanders Beating the Lions in Detroit was probably the most impressive victory if you put all the... For sure.

Womped them in Detroit. It was a Womping.

That was probably more impressive.

I think I would actually argue that the commanders looked better in the playoffs last year than the Patriots did this year.

But I do not...

Max, I don't agree. You're sucking your own... That's a self-suck because you're like, They lost the Eagles. True.

Oh, yeah, it's true. It's a big self-suck.

We forgot about that. You put up a better fight than the Chiefs did.

Yeah. Great point. Okay. You want to I'll ask them. Let's spread out. I have a question. You got it. Hank, can I go back to Friday's show? When we were breaking down the game, I said 40% chance the Patriets could win close, 40% chance Seahawks win close, 20% chance the Seahawks blow them out. Now, I hand up, I was wrong because if I look in how that went, I don't think it was a 40% chance the Patriots could win close. I also think the Seahawks blowing them out should have been a bigger portion of my pie. You looked at me like I was fucking insane and made me give you a pity 1% to the Patriots blowing out the Seahawks. Do you apologize for that?

No.

Okay. But do you see that I was closer to I was the closest to being right of anyone's prediction of the game.

All right. We're going to get a question that's not just a self-suck. So that Max is self-sucking the egos, Big Cat's self-sucking himself. What do you got?

I got a question for you. Hank, would you like to apologize for me when I suggested that Drake may might have a hurt shoulder?

Good question.

Yeah, you never know what guys are dealing with this time of year. He's probably torn. He probably doesn't even have a shoulder anymore. So, yeah, I would like to apologize. Thank you. I didn't realize the extent of his shoulder. I still don't.

Yeah, I tried to tell you.

Yeah. Hey, other question. Do you think there's any point during the game that Josh McDaniels was like, How is this happening? I've been here so many times, and I know how to work Super Bowl week. How is Mike McDonald doing this to me?

No. Okay.

But no, that was just a question.

Yeah, we're doing question and answer. We're doing question and answer. Max, you have a second question?

Yes. This one may not have come from my own brain, but I will continue to ask it.

Look at his... He's getting angry and angry. His face is getting angry and angry.

This one may make you angry.

This is journalism. He's teetering right now.

This one may make you angry.

It's like Mount Vesuvius.

I can tell this is going to be a good question for Max.

Now that you've lost in every time zone, do you have a least favorite time zone to lose the Super Bowl in?

Yeah, East Coast. Next question.

Good answer.

Good answer.

This is a good answer. We're getting the truth. Mims, do you have any questions?

Hey, credit to Hank. We're probably around half-time of the questions. Maybe only after the first quarter, if we're being honest. Credit to Hank. He's sitting here, he's standing in the pocket. He's taking all these questions.

He's facing the music. Yeah. Am I up? Yeah, go ahead.

I think we could all agree, I'll never see my team in the Super Bowl. With that being said, what's it like to watch your team put up an absolute stinker in the Super Bowl?

They ran to a good defense. One of the greatest events of all time. It sucks. It sucks memes. It really does. You come all this way, you get to the game early. It's perfect weather, you got dreams. You got visions of glory and partying with the team and going to Disney World. And then all of a sudden, it feels like time is just gone. It was like, Oh, fuck. It's halftime. Oh, fuck. The third quarter is over. It takes so long to get there. All week, I just wanted to get you guys out of there. And all weekend, I was like, I don't care about these parties. Just fast forward to Sunday, fast to Sunday. Sunday, we get to the game, we're four hours early. We were in the stadium before anyone else. It was like, It's going to take forever for this game to start. And then it started and it was over. When you're on your team, it sucks. To answer your question, it fucking sucks. Yeah.

Pft. Hank, PFT here from part of my take. Did you see Matt Collins's pregame fit?

Yeah.

Are you like me in that when you saw it, you were like, Oh, no. This could either be the coolest thing to ever wear to Super Bowl or maybe the worst possible thing you can wear, depending on how the game goes.

Yeah, he has some insane outfits. So it didn't come out of nowhere. It's Matt Collins.

He also had a good game, which makes it better.

Yeah, I didn't know. I don't know if it was a political statement or if he was just going for Hannibal Leclerc. I don't know what it was.

I think it was just, yeah, he was wearing a prisoner's outfit, handcuffs chained together. He had the mask on, a strait jacket type look. I don't think that was political. I think that was Mac Collins just being Mac. Just Mac.

Yeah. Zack, did you have another question?

Second question. It's a bank. Sorry for the loss again. I was curious, do you think there's a path for you guys to get back to the Super Bowl next year? Or is it going to take maybe several years to get back?

Yeah, there is a path. I do think there's a path. I love the team we have. I I love the guys that got in that locker room. But you can't take it for granted. Unlike the dynasty runs, I felt like we were always going to be back in the Super Bowl, going into the start of the year. This one, I did feel like I was taking it all in and just enjoying it because it's like you never know when you're going to be back. You might be like the commanders or the bears or the jets. You might never make it, Zack. You might just never make it. So there is a path every team when they start the year. It doesn't matter what your schedule is. It doesn't matter who you're playing, how bad they think you're going to be. Any team can make the Super Bowl when the season starts. So there's a path. I'm excited for the future. But yeah, I'm not penciling it in yet.

What would you say, Hank, to the people who are seeing be the schedule?

We said the whole year, the schedule doesn't matter. It's about playoff when they've won three times in the playoff. So against great defenses, I never have and I never will. Pay any mind to the schedule talk. But next year, we'll have a new schedule, and then we'll see what people say then.

Is it concerning to you that Drake May in his second year makes to the Super Bowl, loses? And historically, when that happens, the guy never goes back. No. Quarterbacks, if they make it to the Super Bowl in their second season- Yeah, I answered your question. I don't think that they've ever made it back, right? Yeah.

I have one.

Jalen hurts, but he's a running back.

Yeah, we got it. And he also got cropped out by Steve Young. Yeah, he did. That was a tough crop. Which was the funniest thing ever. Steve Young, I don't know if you saw that, Hank, because you were concerned with the Super Bowl, rightfully so. They had a bunch of Super Bowl MVPs, and there was a picture of all of them standing before the game in the bowels of the... It was either locker room or whatever. And Steve Young posted it, and he just cropped Jalen Hertz out of the picture.

That's awesome.

Okay. Yeah, Max.

First of all, I'm very impressed with how you're dealing with this. I would have had a temper tantrum by now.

All credit to Hank. He is standing in the air.

He had an absolute temper tantrum by now.

He's taking the fire.

Not Max.

I would have started screaming. I'm very impressed with how you're dealing with this.

Hank doesn't talk when his team is. It's all out the window. The narrative is gone.

With that being said, are you hoping for Drake May to have a shoulder injury because that would explain how bad that he looked?

Yes.

Okay, good answer.

Good answer.

Are you worried at all about how he looked in the playoffs in totality when they played? I mean, he played against really good defenses, so that's part of it, and he's 23.

Yeah, I liked it. I was enjoying them running with the weather narrative. Obviously, that wasn't the case today. He's 23, second youngest quarterback to ever make the Super Bowl. He's got time. We got our guy, we got our coach. Defense is great. We got to build up the offensive line, but I'm not overly worried about it, no. I think, again, if he was 29, 30, and that was his first playoff appearance, but it's like by the time he's 27, that's hopefully a blip on the radar, and he's three or four playoff appearances in by them.

Do you think he might have fumbalitis?

No. The Seahawks, I feel like you guys aren't giving me enough credit to Seahawks.

I know. I gave credit.

As a bald knower, I'm not putting her on Dreg May. I'm giving credit to Seahaw's defense.

I gave a lot of credit.

You guys are just trying to discredit Dreg Man.

No, I gave a lot of credit to Seahaw's defense. I gave a lot of credit to Ceex defense, both before and after the game.

A lot of credit. See, off defense was great, but it doesn't change the fact Dreg May did have the most fumbles in the history of the playoffs. That's why I was asking about fumbalitis.

Okay, got it. Zack, do you have another question?

Hank, I'm just curious. Are you thinking to tomorrow already? Is today over? Or is it a fresh start tomorrow? Or are you going to still be thinking about this loss in the next coming days? Or is it short-term memory, it's over, it's done with on the next season?

Good question. Great question.

Excellent question.

That's a horrible question.

That was nice.

That was actually a horrible question.

How long is it going to stick with you?

A while because of fucking this piece of shit in the red.

What?

Why?

I can't get away from it. I can't move on. It's going to stick with me, and I will not. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Probably until we win the Super Bowl.

Yeah, I think that's fair. Because until then, you're going to be so fucking Fucking annoying. I think you're forgetting the fact that PFT lost a $40,000 bet today. I did lose $40,000 today. It's a lot of money.

It's a shit lot of money, dude.

That's a car. I could get a sick car with $40,000. I could get a new El Camino with that.

Like a little bit of sympathy for your friend.

Yeah, please. Hank, you do think that I'm behind everything. You think that I'm pulling all the strings, left and right. I think you need to take some time off. Go play some golf, put your head It's leftwood season.

Yeah. I mean, it unfortunately is. But yeah, to answer Zack's question, I will be thinking about it for a while. I don't think I'm ever getting back to the hotel. I'm not the fucking... I'm going to walk down the lobby and see all the signs for Patriots Afterparty, which will not be happening.

Have you told yourself- I'm probably going to be a $1,000 Uber. Have you told yourself Man in the Arena? It's not the critic who counts me. It's you suffering the slings, the arrows of defeat. You're actually the man.

Mm-hmm.

Thanks.

Memes, do you have any other questions? Off the top of my head, no. Celtics lost today, too. Max, do you have any other questions?

Good question.

I had one last question, but do you have any other?

No, I have no more questions.

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I was waiting for PFT to lead the charge, and then I'll go.

For soggy sorrows?

I'll get wet. I'll get wet as fuck, doc.

Okay. You guys both want to get wet?

Yeah, I'll go get wet. Okay, all right.

They both get wet. Let's let them both get wet.

All right, so we have, Hank, we have everything set in the shower. Oh. We're doing a talking to her.

Wait, what do we have? Hank's going to get in his shower? Hank's going in his. Okay, it's perfect. Then PFT is going to go. Yeah, PFT, you go. Okay. This is great. We have everything set up. Hank, I do want to give you a ton of credit, especially concerning the fact that, like you said, you mentioned it multiple times, you got there really early. That has to make it hurt more with how early you got there. What do you mean? I don't know. You just kept on saying how you got there early.

I mean, we were... Fuck you. That's all I have to say that.

What does that mean? I don't know.

I truly am impressed with the way that you dealt with this today.

You're doing a great job. I would not have been able to do it. I did think a couple of times about the scoff you gave me when I said there's a 20% chance that Seahawks would blow him out, and you were just like, How could you think that? But that's neither here nor there. Would you consider that a blowout, Hank? Hank, was that a blowout?

He might not be. Yeah.

Yeah, he said that. That was a blowout. Yeah, that was a blowout. Definitely a blowout, boys. Yeah, what's up, Granelli? Here's Granelli. He's doing his spin checklist. All right, here he goes. Hank's going in the shower. Oh, man. Soggy sorrows. Oh, he's getting... Do you have a change of clothes, Hank? No. Oh, no. He's got to get all the way back to Santa Clara or San Francisco. He's in Santa Clara. Oh, no. He's sitting in the... Oh, this is some good stuff. He's sitting in the bathtub. He's in the shower. This is Hank. I am very impressed with how you're taking on this. Is there any good commercials? Let's see. Oh, the- Carioque one. Yeah, we don't want to do free ads. There was a commercial. I don't even know who it was. Yeah. But it was- I'll do free ads. No free ads, but it was a horse with a bald- I have to drop him. With a bald eagle on it. It was pretty cool. Raving Pan. Yeah. Sports are a certain party. Yeah. How was that? It was good?

It was awesome.

Okay. I was pretty tired, though.

I wanted to take a nap all weekend.

Oh, yeah. You can nap now.

Yeah, that is nice.

Yeah, that's huge. The fact that you can go back to napping because you wanted to nap a lot. Dude, you're getting really, really wet.

You did not have to do this for this long. Why did you-PFT is back.

Pft is considerably less wet than Hank.

Let me say PFT.

Hank just laid down in the bathtub for a solid two minutes.

I did soak my shirt and my head.

Yeah, PFT is wet.

I'm wet. Hank, this sucks. I can't believe we lost.

My two boys doing soggy soggs.

When I put this bed in, never in a million years, I think it would get to this point where it was-Yes, you can get out of the show.

He asked if he could leave the Zoom. No.

Now we're- You can get out of the show.

We've lost more Super Bowl- No, you have to stay. Regardless, you have to stay.

I'm going straight to Orlando, by the way. I move my flight.

All right. Wait, you are? You cannot leave this- Hold on.

Hey, you can not leave this tab.

Hank, stop.

Do not leave, Hank.

Stop Hold on a second. What did you just say about… Did you actually move your flight?

Yeah, PFT moved his flight to Monday, so I did, too. I'm just going straight to Orlando.

Okay. Love you, Hank. Thank you for that.

You inspired me, PFT. You inspired me.

I'm glad I could.

I thought we were going to work on Monday and Tuesday, but I'm down. I like where your head's at.

All right. I'm glad I could help, Hank. Yeah. Thank you. Enjoy Orlando. I hope you're running some of the Seahawks there. That'd be cool. I would like to sit you with Mike.

Hank, are we going to see you on Tuesday for real? We're going to see you. You didn't move anything.

Yeah, true.

No, you're going to be here.

I got a tea time.

No, you're going to be here. Come on. We'll see. Yeah, you're going to be in studio. You've done an incredible job here, Hank. You've killed all the narratives of Hank doesn't talk when he loses, and Hank is a sore loser. You've done a good job tonight.

Awesome. Loved to hear it. So happy.

Yeah, Hank, credit to you.

I'm proud of you, Hank.

Credit to Hank.

Yeah.

You You showed up, you faced the music, you listened to us be assholes. You didn't flip out. Max would have been terrible in this spot. Horrible.

Yes, Hank, so we'll see you Tuesday.

All right.

See you guys. Love you.

Bye, Hank. Love you.

See you Sunday.

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Okay. Credit to Hank. Good performance by him.

Massive credit to Hank. Massive credit to Hank. That's got to be tough. I will never know the sting of losing a Super Bowl and then showing up to do a podcast. And that is Just listen to us be assholes for 30 minutes nonstop.

He was great. We did listen to him be an asshole to us for a long time this season. That's a great point. So it wasn't totally unwarranted. And he did pooh-pooh at some of the points we brought up leading up to the Super Bowl. He did. Some of those points, which I want to talk about now. Mike McDonald is a defensive wizard. He's the first defensive coach ever to win the Super Bowl while calling the defensive plays, head coach, while calling the defensive plays. He's the first defensive-minded head coach to win a Super Bowl since Bill Belichick in 2018. He's the first non One Belichick, defensive-minded head coach to win since the last time the Seahawks won with Pete Carroll. Everywhere he's gone, he's been incredible. I mean, think about it. He was at Michigan. I know the counter stallions thing happened, and yes, there probably was some nefarious stuff going on. But everyone was convinced that the Michigan defense had all of the plays because they were so good and so sound. Turns out Mike McDonald is that good of a coach. He had that Ravens defense a couple of years ago where they had the one seed, and that was all the offensive fault.

That team was so good defensively. For a league that is going in one direction in terms of offensive head coaches, he has completely swung it back and being like, I can scheme up a game. I can have a game plan ready to go. The way that they had free rushers coming at all times against Drake May, just a perfect, perfect game plan.

Yeah, they had every team in hell this year except for the Rams. And he was clearly a difference maker for that defense. Ever since he got there. I've heard other players talk about, I'm not smart enough to understand exactly how he does it or what he does, but the way that he plays his zone coverage. But it's different to the point where quarterbacks get confused by it, even if they watch tape on it because he's always adjusting. They're calling him the Sean McVay of defense, which is a really lazy way to say that he's young and he's really smart and awesome. But that's a great compliment to him. And yeah, all the credit to him for putting this together. I actually think that it didn't matter what team from the AFC you ended up having the Super Bowl. If it was the Broncos. Can you imagine Stitty going up against this defense?

Yeah, the only way we would have had maybe a more compelling Super Bowl is if it was Josh Allen, just because Josh Allen would have... I think he's been through some wars where I still think the Seahawks would have won. I think so, too. But it would have been... Josh Allen has seen enough stuff where he might have been able to keep it at least a little more competitive. But yeah, they were- I think they would have flustered anyone.

Oh, absolutely.

That's what they did all season. Look what they did to the 49ers who were... I know the 49ers were banged up, but Brock Purdy was playing great football, and Week 18, completely shut him down. Then in the playoffs, completely shut him down. Again, through three quarters of the Super Bowl, the opposing team, the Patriots had five first downs. It was ugly. The two times in the first half that the Patriots got over the 50-yard line, they ended up on the other side of the 50-yard line when they had to punt. That's how good... It It was just an absolute beat down by that Seattle defense and Mike McDonald and what he was able to do. The Seahawks held the Patriots to negative 27 EPA in the Super Bowl, the fewest allowed by any defense in a championship game or Super Bowl in the last 10 seasons. They had six sacks, two interceptions, a fumble recovery, and a breakdown. And also, John Schneider, he deserves all the credit in the world for what he's done in terms of rebuilding this team so quickly. The Russell Wilson thing happens A few years ago where even at the time, we know what happened with Russ in Denver.

We know what happened in Pittsburgh and New York. He did, by the way, Russell Wilson did come out today and say he wants to play another year. I don't know who wants him to play another year, but he wants to play another year.

I want him to play another year.

But that was a decision that it was both sides. Russell Wilson wanted a fresh start, but that's your franchise quarterback, your Super Bowl-winning quarterback, and to then turn Turned the whole thing around. The Geno Smith thing went okay, not great, to then say, Hey, let's go get Sam Darnold. The draft that he had, Devon Witherspoon had a three pass defense, a sack. He was all over the field. He was their first round draft pick in 2023. Derek Hall, from the second round in that year, had two sacs. Byron Murphy had two sacks. He was their first round pick two years ago. Just draft pick after draft pick after draft pick, he has hit and made this team just an absolute monster of a roster top to bottom.

You can see how good the roster is because when they went through their dark period, when they had, if you can call it a dark period, Gino Smith, Pete Carroll as the coach, they were still pretty competitive. They weren't a team that was rolling over. Then the Raiders run back Gino Smith and Pete Carroll, which we're not acknowledging. We see how that turned out. The roster is good. He's an incredible talent evaluator. The pieces he added on defense, too, not just through the draft, free agency, big winner from today. I know he didn't get a sack, but DeMarcus Lawrence, before the season, he said, I know for sure I'm not going to win a Super Bowl there in Dallas, in explaining why he was going to the Seahawks. And then Micah Parsons tweeted out, This is some clown shit. And then DeMarcus Lawrence said, Call me a clown won't change that what I said is the truth. Maybe you should spend more time winning and less time tweeting.

Yeah.

Pretty prescient by DeMarcus Lawrence. Yeah, he nailed that one. He had it right. He deserves a victory lap of all victory laps.

Yeah, just go down. And he deserves this great pickup. Eamonn Warrie, who was a second-round pick last year, was just an absolute game-changer. Anger in terms of how Mike McDonald used him all around the field. It's just up and down their roster. Jsn was probably concussed. He probably got concussed in that first half. He was a non-factor, and that is partially because Christian Gonzales played his absolute balls off. But think about that. When you're going into this Super Bowl, if we were sitting here on Friday's show and we said to Hank, Hey, JSN is going to have four catches for 27 yards. You think the Patriots won the game.

Yes, so credit to the Patriots defense. They took away their best player. They said, We're not going to let Jason beat us. And he didn't beat him. This also, John Schneider, very smart guy. This playoff stretch might have screwed up what was maybe his master plan that he was cooking up. Kenneth Walker, cat's out of the bag. Yeah. Cat's out of the bag. Kenneth Walker is going to get paid.

Super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker.

He is going to get paid like a motherfucker. When he was splitting carries with Charbonet, it was like, I don't know if the competition If other teams are going to really pony up for him because he's not a Belcow back, guess what? He's a pretty fucking good Belcow back.

And he was great in this game. He was basically the offense. That's where it started getting going. He broke... How It felt like he had three or four pretty explosive runs. I know he had a 30-yard run. Clint Kubiak, who's now the Raiders' head coach, we all knew that was going to happen, but it was already... It was just announced, did a great job of being like, Hey, you know where the only place This Patriots defense is really good. Let's get some stretch runs, some runs to the outside where Kenneth Walker can get going. And that's where they had success. Without Kenneth Walker, yeah, he was the reason why this game started to get further and further away for the Patriots because it was that defensive stalemate, especially in the first half. I know people say that was a boring Super Bowl. I get it. Partially, I'm skewed because I bet on the Seahawks, but I do think that first half was a defensive masterclass on both sides, where you just watching that game, it wasn't as much, Oh, Drink made struggled. But some of the free blitzers that McDonald was able to get open there, the Christian Gonzales plays.

There were some really incredible Incredible defensive plays that were happening on both sides.

It was an awesome defense. I think if you're a fan of defense, that was actually very fun to watch in that first half. I do think, yeah, Kenneth Walker was a big difference maker. The Seahawks' offensive line played really well for the most part, too, I think, in the running game, specifically. In the passing game, Sam Darnold made some great plays when he was under pressure moving around in the pocket. Actually, one where he had JSN on a wide open 75, 80-yard countdown that he over threw. But the offensive line did really good in the running game. Around the edges, if they're running that zone play, that stretch, they just seal you off good. They give Kenneth Walker a lot of room for a cutback. Also, massive credit to Jake bobo in his blocking at the wide receiver position. Opened up some massive holes for K9.

Some other notes from the Seahawks run and how awesome of a team they were. We talked about it with the Rams game, the NFC Championship game, and the Muff Kick. We talked about it with Lafleur and Shana-Hann, these teams that they're special teams. They throw them to the side and say, We'll figure out otherwise. The Rasheed Shahid return to start the 49ers game in the divisional round. The Seahawks spend the Most out of anyone in the NFL on special teams, $9. 3 million. Jason Myers just finished in an NFL season, scoring the most points anyone's ever scored in an NFL season. He was money tonight. Special teams matters. This Seahawks organization says, Hey, here's where we can win the game on the margins. And even something as simple as their onside kick recovery was as easy as possible. Maybe not a great on-side kick, but they did everything. They punted well tonight. There was multiple times They punted the ball inside the five-yard line. Jason Myers kicked five. Was it five field goals? Six field goals?

I think it was five.

Five field goals. Rasheed Shahid, no issue fielding punts. The Seahawks just went through the playoff. So this is also on offense, but this is special teams as well. They went through the entire playoff run without a turnover. They did not turn the ball over. They were fundamentally so sound and so buttoned up in all aspects of the game, in all three phases of the game, where it didn't... This was a theme we talked about when people were saying, Oh, Sam Darnal's seeing Ghost. I said it many times. I threw the stat out there many times. He was five and one in games where he had multiple turnovers. This was a full, true team in that respect. Fact that it wasn't one piece, falters, everything falls apart. They were all just so good top to bottom.

Yeah. So Myers is five for five. And then Michael Dixon, he punted seven times, three of them inside the 20, I think two of them inside the five. That's Jay Harbaugh, too. Special teams coordinator is a Harbaugh.

It really is. You don't think about special teams until you really get to the playoffs. And then you start to realize that a lot of these games are won and lost in the smallest margins. This game was not one of those cases because the Seahawks were just that much better. But the reason you could say maybe why they're there is because of that NFC Championship game when you have that muff kick by the Rams. They don't care about special teams. And the Seahawks do.

They were just dominant. And the offensive line for the Patri, that's a question. They got a question mark.

Yeah, I don't know. I think you got to move Will Campbell inside because it looked like Will Campbell, I know he got hurt during the season, but when he goes up against guys, and I know the arm length thing, and we all make jokes about it, but it's just a fact that when you're going up against... It's like a boxer. When you're going up with a guy who has multiple inches on arm length, he's going to be able to get around you easier. He can hit you before you hit him.

He gave up 14 pressures tonight. That's the most pressure is allowed by any player in a game this entire season in any game, not just the playoffs. It includes the playoffs, includes the regular season, 14 quarterback pressures. At least one of those was because his guard chipped his man out to the outside and sent him at Sam Darnold. But yeah, I feel like Sam Darnold is going to be having the best time ever tonight. Best time. Everyone counted him out. What a great comeback story he is. Now, there's going to be sliding doors, ramifications from Sam Darnold winning the Super Bowl, which is, one, you're going to see teams go out and look for guys that have been cast off that were set to have talent. But two, you're probably going to see some teams stick with a quarterback maybe a season or two longer than maybe they should because they're like, What if he just becomes Sam Darnold? And what if he gets really good? What if it was our problem to begin with and we change everything up, and then he's the guy?

Listen, I might retire on my 2021 take of I'm not stopping believing in Sam Darnal when you said you weren't going to stop believing in that one. Yeah, I'm Baker Mayfield. Can you play it? This actually is like one of those takes that I'll just walk around and just like, Hey, you know what? We did get one right one time.

I think as right as it was about Baker, I think I disagreed with you about Sam Darnold.

Well, I said, I think this is so crazy, but I'm going to say it anyway. December seventh, 2022 is when this happened on our show.

Well, with Baker, actually, I'm not done believing in Baker Mayfield yet. This might be weird. He sucked the Panthers, but- I'll do one worse. I like Baker.

I'll do one worse. I'm not done believing in Sam Darnold yet. All right? I mean, he's stupid. I know. That is worse. I know. That's way worse. But yeah. Again, I know people will say, Well, the defense was out of this world, and it was. But I just go back to that NFC Championship game where they are not in the Super Bowl. If he doesn't play a perfect game of football and make those big time throws time and time again. So I don't see it as, Sam McDonald got carried to a Super Bowl. He was part of an incredible team overall, and they all played their part in winning a dominant Super Bowl and winning a dominant They were dominant from the beginning of the season all the way through. They were as deserving as a Super Bowl champion as you could possibly get.

They were the best team, best team in football all year.

It was right in front of our eyes. I think what put us off the scent was that… Think about if we go back in time in that October game when the Seahawks lost by two in a game that Sam Darnal threw four interceptions. I think that game got everyone a little off the scent. We were like, Yeah, I guess they can't do it. I know it happened to me. Then it took a little to come around. If they win that game, this would have been one of those teams where you're like, I think people would have been since October saying this team cannot be stopped in their all-time great.

Well, Sam Darnold was always... The knock against him was like, he's still going to have that gunslinger in him where he's going to go out and he's going to give you the bad games. In the playoffs, you did not get gunslinger. You got very good, well put together, mistake-free Sam Darnold. Even Hank.

My point, the last people to come around to Sam Darnold, and rightfully so, because of what they did to him, the Patriots fans. And Hank said, I was wrong about Sam Darnold.

Well, the Seahawks defense was... By the way, the Patriots, when I tried to tell Hank going into the playoffs or into the Super Bowl, you've beaten some of the best defenses in football. That's real. They did beat Good defenses. The difference with the Seahawks is they're the best defense, and also their offense is better than all the other good defenses that the Patriots beat in the playoffs. And their offense was a lot better than that. I do want to just do a blind resume for you, Big Cat. Okay. Which is worse, losing to the Seattle Seahawks 29 to 13, or losing to the Seattle Seahawks 27 to 18?

I would say the 29-13.

That's worse. I would agree because it's more points. Yeah. The 27 to 18 game, that was the Indianapolis Colts and Philip Rivers against the Seahawks. That game was actually... It was close at the end. You remember that one? Yeah. Obviously, Philip Rivers couldn't throw the ball at all. When he had to at the end of the game, ended up turning it over. That was ugly. But that game felt way more competitive.

That was the first Philip Rivers game back.

Yeah, that was in- That was so much fun. That was in Seattle. In Seattle. Yeah. The Patriots offense was clearly limited for a few reasons. I'd say 50% on the line and then 50% the quarterback, both having to deal with that defense that they were going up against. But yeah, it was an ass-kicking. It was a good old-fashioned ass-kicking. Now the Patriots, they are the all-time, most losing-est Super Bowl franchise in NFL history. Crown them.

What's their full record now? 6 and 6?

I believe they're 6: 06, 500 in the Super Bowl, the LeBron of football teams.

Here's a stat that means nothing, but it's just funny to say, Bad Bunny traveled 124 and a half yards with the football during his halftime show. The Patriots rushed for 79 total yards in the actual game.

Yeah. Bad Boney. Bad Boney.

I didn't think... I mean, Hank was there, so he also was in a bad mood. I would rank Bad Bunny as my honest take because it's become way too political, and it's very stupid that you have to basically... Whoever you voted for, you then have to decide how the Super Bowl halftime act was. Again, Super Bowl halftime show is not for guys like us who are going to watch the Super Bowl no matter what and love football. It's for the general audience that is tuning in to maybe their first football game of the year and trying to grow. It's just not for us. I never am seeing the Super Bowl halftime show and being like, God damn it, why didn't they cater to me? Because guess what? Roger Goodell has got me by the fucking balls. He'll put football in Australia at 2: 00 in the morning, and I'll tune into it.

The Super Bowl halftime show has almost become more for people to complain about the Super Bowl halftime show. Correct. I wouldn't be surprised if Roger Goodell was They're going to hate this one. I can't wait to see.

But if you are listening to this show, you probably align very closely to us in the fact that you're going to watch football no matter where it's shown, where it's being played, who's playing, whatever it may be. So, yeah, it's not for us. But my honest review of Bad Bunny is simply didn't understand it, but some of the trumpets and shit were cool.

The theatrics was well-designed.

Some of When I heard the music, I was like, Oh, you know what? I like this music because you put in trumpets and it had energy.

They had asses, too.

I do like the energy.

There was a good amount of asses this halftime show. More ass per capita than any other halftime show I've ever seen.

And the running trees with people in it was very funny.

Yeah, we had them moving the trees. Max is still bewildered by how the trees moved.

It's crazy.

They're people. Yeah, they're people. People are wearing costumes.

I wasn't expecting to see people. I saw one person say this is Kawhi's... What was the name of his company?

Aspiration. Aspire.

Aspiration. He's like, Live look at Kawhi's tree company.

I don't want to get political, Big Cat, but I will for a second. If they had given the Super Bowl MVP to Jason Myers, I was going to need a Kid Rock's All-American Super Bowl MVP award to be given out to the real MVP of the game. That, to me, would have done it. I would have said no.

I think you could give it to him if they had never scored a snapshot, and he maybe had two or more. He had eight field goals. If he had- Six, seven or eight.

If he had six field... So he had five. The longest was 41. Yeah, it wasn't like they were bombed. If he had a nuke from 62 yards out as one of his six field goals, then the last one that he hit in a closer game, maybe, then I would say, Okay, if nobody's going to score, I guess you have to do that.

He would have to give it to a defensive player first, too, because they should just give it to the Seahawks defense overall. But Kenneth Walker was very deserving. Kenneth Walker was when their offense looked like it couldn't get going and JSM was banged up, Kenneth Walker. And A. J. Barner also, we didn't mention him, but he had a hell of a game. He had that touch down that broke it open. He had a couple of big first downs early in the game. He was very, very important. And Cooper Cupp.

Cooper Cupp had a very solid game, too. He was also another guy cast aside, thrown out, got in the elevator fight about him. He had a very good game today. I I think lost in Hank blaming me for everything in his life is the fact that I was such a good friend to him on Friday. Such a good friend. We were hanging out all day. I went to his stupid little fan fest and met all the Patriid Superfans and just stood there and let him rub it in my face like I I deserved a lot of stuff to be rubbed in my face. I did Hank a favor. I was trying to convince him that the whole Tom braided thing about how Tom was saying, I don't have a dog in the fight. And all the news. I was like, I think, Hank, I think this is just a Super Bowl commercial. I think Tom's getting in the news, and then you're going to see him dressed up like an all pats gear in a commercial on Sunday. And Hank's face lit up. He's like, Oh, my God. It is Super Bowl hoax commercial season.

I was like, Yeah, dude. I gave him some good copium to deal with. I was being a really good friend to him, so I'm sad that he's still upset. Yeah. But we got through this.

So you guys went out Friday night?

Yeah. We first went to the Fan Fest, and Hank gave the speech to the crowd, and I think he was just looking to say a couple of words and get off the safe, but they kept interviewing him. And one of the questions was so funny from the guy. I forget the dude's name. That was like the MCAP of the event. First of all, the district councilman from that part of San Francisco came out, and he was like, I just want to let you know when I found out the Super Bowl was coming here and that the Patriots were going to be in it a couple of weeks ago, I made sure that my district was going to host the fan festival, and we are the official district of the New England Patriots. And everybody clapped. And then this councilman stood up, took off his shirt, and underneath it, he was wearing the I'm gay for me shirt. Oh, love it. That's the thing. It was very funny. Then they were interviewing Hank and Fights, and Hank and Fights did a good job. But the guy that was doing the interview was like, You suffer like all the haters.

You deal with everybody in the media. What's it like just dealing with all that? Working for a company like Barstool Sports, and you're just getting all the hate in the world. I was just up there shaking my head like, Oh, my God. Did they just ask you how hard it is to work at Barstool Sports when the New England Patriots are in the middle of a Super Bowl run and they're going to the game in a box. Shout out, Dave. It was very generous of Dave to bring everybody into the box. But we had a fun night. We went out to the DraftKings party, saw 50 Cent perform live, ran into a few people there, just flooded with all the former Patriots players. And Jerry Thornton, big celebrity, got to hang out with him in the VIP, too. That's awesome. So, yeah, it was a good time. I tapped out at about 12: 30 because I'm old.

Yeah. So I had a similar night on Thursday night. I went to our good friend George Kittle's party, the tight-end university party was awesome. Surprisingly, very cool guy that I talked to for a decent amount, Mac Jones, Michael. Cool guy. And, yeah, I did ask him some stupid questions like, Hey, dude, remember when you saw the Dead Body? And how many bananas did you eat that game? He will come on the show. Also saw Colson Loveland and said, I love you to him about 17 times in a minute and a half, but did secure the digits, which was a little bit weird to be like, Hey, man, let's trade numbers. But I had to do it. Our good friend Sam Schwartzstein and Andrew Locke were out, and then went to... I got to give a shout out to Final Final, Awesome bar in San Francisco. The last thing I also tapped out around midnight, the last thing that happened as I was walking out of the bar on Thursday night at Final Final, was I heard my good friend Ryan Rusillo say, I'm going to tie one on tonight. Then I woke up to an awesome set of tits that he posted on Instagram.

It was pretty good. Highlight of my weekend might have been getting ready to go out to dinner on Friday night, and I'm in the back of this SUV with John Gruden, who is like, if you have John Gruden on your dream four-some dinner guest, you're right. He's that funny at dinner. He's just a great dude. We're in the back of the SUV and Rusillo gets in. The first thing John Gruden says Hey, Rosillo, talk in the town with those two titties you put up on your Instagram stories today. And Rusillo just looked at him and goes, Thanks, Coach.

Yeah, it was perfect. We're having Rusillo on Wednesday to do our NBA preview, so I'm We'll maybe get some more detail to it. But I was with him that night. I wish he had told me that there were titties.

Yeah, there were some titties.

Yeah, there were some really nice titties. Zack, you were just a zero.

Are you better? Better, yeah. Definitely better. I like the hat. Thank you, Big Cat.

What % better are you?

I feel like 100% good.

Oh, 100%?

I feel really good, yeah. All right, fuck you. I got a little It's a suggestion, but that cleared it pretty quick.

Zack, can we do a little role play here real quick? Yeah. Okay. All right, let's pretend it's five weeks from now, six weeks from now, the start of March Madness, opening weekend of March Madness. You wake up, it's Thursday morning, you're coughing. Coughing nonstop. Oh, my God. Yeah, your method. Yeah, good job.

That was a bad cough.

It was like a tickle.

It was just tickle. That did not sound like 100%.

It was just like phlegm. I've been needed to get that out, but I didn't want to cough while the mics were on. I was trying to... You know when you try to suppress it?

Yeah, it's a productive cough, too. You're getting rid of stuff.

Yeah, I was pushing it down. I didn't want to make any noise.

Okay, so let's pretend that you're coughing a lot. And then it's also a really big day. We're going to be streaming all day, all the college basketball games. What do you do?

I got to just hand up. I'm sick. I don't want to infect anyone. I got to let you guys know as soon as I know.

Yeah. And you're not going to get in trouble for that?

No, not at all.

We're going to be glad that you told us.

The right thing to do is feel something, say something. Yes.

I like that. Feel something, say something.

Good job, Zack. Because that was our biggest issue, was not that you were sick, it's that you didn't tell us you were sick for a day and a half.

I wasn't feeling the best at first. When I reached sick mode, I probably did alert sick mode a little late. I definitely did.

You also- I would say a lot late.

You didn't have anything to do the day that you were around us.

Yeah. That made it worse. That Monday, you sat when we were doing the Draymon interview, which wasn't a show day. You were just sitting as sick as sick could be in a hotel room with us.

Sometimes you got to pick your battles, and that's one that you could easily be like, Hey, I know I'm not really going to say anything during this interview. I'm not feeling great. Let me sit this one out.

Definitely should have bowed out quicker.

Zack, did anybody close to you, your family, hear about the 105 degree fever? And if so, what did they say?

Yeah, my mom was like, You know Zack, you really should go to the doctor when you're in a 100, like 105. You probably should go get that checked out. I was updating about the fever in the family group text. I wasn't 100% forthcoming with severity-wise because you I don't worry him. I'm at a state. You don't want to worry anybody. So you just push it off.

Yeah, I'm happy you're feeling better. I'm happy that you didn't die with your 105 degrees fever.

No death.

No death. But yeah, just let us know. Right away. Let us know next week. Right away. You will never get in trouble for being sick.

If I didn't feel good right now, I would say it.

Yeah, you would never get in trouble. There will never be a moment where you're like, Hey, I'm feeling sick, and we'll say, Oh, Zack's being lazy. No, no, no. Sick is sick.

As far as timing goes, though, worst timing possible. Yeah.

The only people who could be sick in this show, in this studio, and try to power through it is me and PFT. We'll do that.

That's completely understand.

But everyone else can check out.

We're usually sick at around the same time in each other's bubbles.

Just fight through it. What was that noise?

It was just like a...

That was a burp. You're not 100%.

That was not a sick noise. I swear that was... Oh, good. Now everyone's worried that I'm still sick. I I'm just doing it.

95%. I haven't been to a doctor.

I got cleared by WebMD, Google, and my mom.

Now, dad... Your mom cleared you as well. Meams, I can't... I don't think... I think we'd be very hypocritical if we start just being the doctor guys.

When you got a 105 degree fever, you go to the doctor.

We're not doctor guys. We don't do doctors.

I will say fevers aren't like a hospital doctor move unless you really- Sure They sure are.

I am on Zack's side.

You're an idiot. I'm not.

You're an idiot. If you got a 105 fever, go to the doctor.

But I was tracking. I made sure to take a photo of the thermometer as I dropped to remember where I was at and keep good track, like a log. They do the same thing on a whiteboard at the doctor. They were going to tell me, drink fluid to get sleep.

No, you get an antibiotic, and then you are actually not contagious within 24 hours. That is You should have gotten an antibiotic. Zack, they're being pussies.

I fought the good fight, Max. They say, so long after no more fever, you're not contagious. I'm just going off Google, WebMD, and my mother who raised a bunch of kids.

Don't tell them that big kid. Two of us. Shout out to believe you. 105 degree fever, you go to the doctor. No.

I don't know. Yes, absolutely. Hopefully, they'll never be next time. Things got a little dark there for a second, but we're good.

Yeah. 105, I'm going to the doctor. No.

108?

If you got 108, your brain's melting.

I think it's a brain thing.

That's a brain issue. 105, that's a sign that there's something bad going on in your body.

I was going to go-103, 104 is what it says you should go to the doctor. We disagree. You and I disagree with Google. You guys got to stop going off Google. Yeah, I guess so.

If you feel sick, go to the doctor.

He's burping.

That was so professional.

We're going down. That was so professional, my bad.

I'm starting to feel sick, too.

Usually, we have the button. There's no button over here. It's all me.

Zack, do you know how close you were to having the wrath of everyone?

I'm still not saying we're out of the week yet.

There was a 10-hour period where I puked, PFT puked, and Hank sneezed five times.

It was the majority of my thoughts was if anyone else was going to get sick. I thought about it a lot in the hotel room.

It was Tuesday morning. I was like, I puked. Wednesday morning, I was like, Yeah, I puked. Pft said, Yeah, I puked. Hank's like, Yeah, I sneezed five times. Because It's one of those. There's a little bit of a difference.

Also, Big Cat's puke was probably just exercise-related.

Concussion.

My puke was just food-related.

Well, mine was food and exercise.

I don't know why you keep saying concussion.

I was just blanked on... Do you remember that dinner?

You said you got concussed from lack of oxygen.

Yeah, it's my brain.

I don't think that's not how concussions were. You said that the other day without any context, and it was like, no.

No, that's max That's a good diagnosis. It's a form of CTE. Can't think, concussed. There you go.

It's like I choked myself out for an extended period of time.

Can't think, exercised. Cte. There we go. Yeah.

Okay, let's wrap up the show. Great. We'll do Wednesday. We'll clean up some stuff. We have Versillo, NBA. Oh, actually, before we do that, let's just look real quick at the draft, Kings, because it's always sad when football season is over, and we We have a long way. I'm happy for a break. We have a long way to next season. But do you want to look at the odds real quick for next season?

Seahawks are draft king. They got to be favored.

Seahawks are 9: 50, so nine and a half to one. Rams are nine and a half to one. Oh, Matthew Stafford, by the way, congrats on the MVP. And he's coming back.

He won by one vote. One vote. Over Drake May, and that one vote might have gone to Justin Herbert.

No. Sam Sam Monson did say... Who was it?

Yeah, it was Sam Monson.

He voted Matthew Stafford second. Okay, so it didn't matter.

So it would have gone to Matthew Stafford, if not.

People were really mad about that. I thought his reasoning wasn't so bad. He said, given the circumstances of what the Chargers were dealing with offensively, Justin Herbert was the most valuable player for a team that made the playoffs.

He's going off the true sense of the MVP award. If you took Justin Herbert off the Chargers, they would be asser than ass. They would be mega ass. They would be so, so bad. Really ass.

Although you could probably say the same for the Rams and the Patriots, but yeah.

Probably, yeah. I think you probably could. But Herbert was a unique case in that he not only played really Well, he got the shit kicked out of him all season. So I disagree with the vote. I don't think that he was the MVP. He's also the guy that made Jaden Daniels not the unanimous MVP last year. He likes to- Or the Rookey of the Year. Yeah, Rookey, the offense Rookey there. He likes to zig when people zag.

I know that none of the playoff games count towards MVP, but it did end up becoming after the fact, Good job, you got it right, voters, because what Matthew Stafford was able to accomplish against the Seahawks defense in both the end of the season and the divisional round, or sorry, the conference Championship game versus what Drake May was able to do against them. Yeah, Matthew Stafford. He played the Seahawks defense the best you could possibly play outside of actually Remember that one shootout game, Baker Mayfield? Yeah. The Bucks went into Seattle and won early in the season.

That was when Baker was on his weird shit, at the end of every game. Looking at the odds, it looks like Hank... Oh, no. Hank is second on the pod in terms of Super Bowl. No, tied. Tied. Tied. Tied with the birds.

Eagles are 13 to one. Patriots are 13 to one.

I think now that Hank's gone, we can all admit Hank was right at the start of the year. Yeah. Patriots will be the best team on the podcast. Hank was so damn right. He knows ball. He really does.

God knows ball.

Where are other teams on this list?

The Chargers are 15 to one. Chiefs are 15 to 1. Commanders are 60 to 1. Bears are 25 to 1. Okay. Disrespect. And Bucks are 40 to 1. I love it. Yeah, there is a lot of disrespect.

I love it.

And then the Jets are 200 to 1. Don't have a quarterback yet. Yep.

Those will skyrocket as soon as we figure out who that is.

You should take it.

We have 11 picks.

You should take it.

Patri's proved it's easy to turn around a team.

We'll see.

Yep.

Niners at 17 to one are the interesting one, I would say. Out of just like... The two interesting ones, take your bias aside, so don't pick your own team. I would say the two interesting ones for me would be 49ers 17 to one and Jaguars 20 to one.

Jaguars 20 to one is interesting. I would say the Ravens.

Broncos 19 to one is also very interesting.

Ravens are interesting.

I think Chief's 15 to one is interesting.

But where is Mahomes going to be back for week one? Is he?

Probably not. That's a good question. I don't know.

I would say Ravens and Bucks might be interesting.

Going to be fun to look at this. Listen, football can't get here fast enough. Football's back. Football's so back. We'll do some of our offseason resolutions and what we're going to do with all of our time now that football season is over on Wednesday show. And then, a reminder, Friday, we're going to be Tim Woods, which was, I'll say right now, our best Dungeon and Dragons episode we've ever done.

Start to finish.

We were locked in. It was the best. He changed it up. He gave us a different type of story, storyline to do. Nick joined us. It was so much fun.

It's a self-contained episode. Usually, there's a cliffhanger because we don't get to the of it. This time it was like, Okay, we're going to start, we're going to finish. Yeah, it was very, very funny.

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My Who's Back of the Week is College Basketball. College Basketball is back. It's the beautiful cycle of sports. Every year, my calendar flips after the Super Bowl. I start caring about college basketball again. I watched one to two games a week leading up to the end of the football season, and then I just binge college basketball hard for the next, I don't know, month and a half, two months, and I'm excited for it to be back. It kicked off this weekend with Duke UNC, and College Basketball Rivalries are back, not just because of the storming of the court, which happened twice in this game, but because of a queen Jordan was in attendance. Yes. Queen Jordán was there with Bill Belichick, and she was wearing an Orchids of Asia day spa shirt.

Yeah.

Which is the day spa that Robert Kraft got jacked off in.

Jordán of the Year is open in shot.

She's done it. Maybe Shirt of the Year?

Or early February, Jordan of the Year has been wrapped up. All your other Jordans go home.

Yeah. I think that might be Shirt of the Year. It's incredible. Although sometimes the best shirts are the ones you don't wear. Ron Roussillo approved that.

Okay, so college basketball. I want to talk about the Duke-UNC game. I love college basketball. I love Feast Week. I'm watching nonstop. This, and Max, maybe you can back me up. This might be the best college basketball season we're having right now in a long, long time. It is so loaded at the top. You go eight deep of teams that feel like they are juggernots. Arizona is the number one team. If you're jumping in right now, Arizona is undefeated. They're about to play an absolute gauntlet of a schedule. They got Kansas this week. They have Houston, they have Kansas. They have everyone in front of them coming up this week.

Tonight is Arizona, Kansas.

Michigan's awesome. Yukon, who just lost to St. John. St. John, that was in an electric atmosphere on Friday night at the Garden. And Rick Pitino afterwards saying, Our curfew is 5: 00 AM tonight. You could tell that meant something. Down year for the Big East, but still, Yukon's very, very good. St. John's, Villanova should make the tournament.

Officially a lock, according to Joe Linaardi. Yeah.

Duke, good. They have lost in... That was a epic choke and meltdown against UNC. Illinois is really good. Gonzaga did the thing where they basically looked awesome, got a little injured, but now they're cruising through. There are just so many good teams in this college basketball team. Nebraska is awesome. If you're just getting into college basketball, this is going to be a really, really fun tournament.

I just like saying Nebraska.

Dude, they're really good. They're really, really good. Michigan State and Kansas is coming on strong. There are so many good teams this year, and it's going to be such a fun tournament. Maybe not for your upsets, but actually, maybe so because like I said, you have 8-10 teams that you could feel pretty confident can make a championship run. So a couple of those will get picked off, and there'll be very significant upsets.

Yeah, I do like that the power conferences have great teams this year. Yeah. Very good teams.

So the Duke-UNC game, god damn it, I love that John Shier is giving us this, that he is roping me back into my Duke hatred. I thought he was going to die after Coach K stepped aside. But man, to have that loss where they choked down the stretch and then get in front of the podium and say, I don't want to make it about the... He said, It's hard to talk about the game when I was most concerned for the safety of our players. I don't want to make it about that, but I got staff members that got punched in the face. That's not what this game is about. That was a scary ending. Has anyone seen any stuff? I know there was a water bottle thrown, which if you go back to two years ago or last year when UNC wanted Duke on Duke's court, there was water bottles being thrown at UNC players. So save me the bullshit. If you're a Duke fan who's pretending like this could never happen in Cameron, it absolutely could. I just love when Duke loses. They can't just lose. They have to make it about something. I remember, what was the guy's name?

Phil Powski?

Yeah, Phil Powski. I was about to ask.

Yeah, when he said he got tripped and punched.

He hasn't been the same player since that.

Yeah. It's so perfectly Duke. Duke fans were complaining about the foul. There's only one foul called on UNC in the second half. Oh, my God. Could that ever happen? When has Duke ever... Duke always gets the bad whistle. This is bullshit.

It shouldn't happen. The coaches getting punched in the face. Listen, if your coaching staff is getting punched in the face and beaten up by the UNC student section- Still haven't seen a picture of the punch. That, to me, is a skill issue right there.

Yeah. And then Duke fans flipping to, Don't compare these two programs because they stormed the court. We would never. We're a real blue blood. I just love it. I love it so much. Duke, a bunch of pricks that just can't lose a game and just lose a game. It has to be something bigger. That was always my problem with Coach K is when they lose, it has to be something bigger than just basketball. It has to be teaching kids to become men or unsportsmen-like or this or that or the other. Just lose the fucking game. You lost the game. You choked.

You guys are too good of program to be storming the court like that. You should not think that beating us is that important to you. That's always my favorite. You should be better than that when coaches do that. Because in a way, you're putting down your own team for making your team such a big juggernaut that another team wants to storm the court after they beat. You should want that. You should want that hatred from the other fans. The funniest part is when you try to storm the court and then you get the lanyard all-stars running out onto the court to Tell them the game is not over yet. And then you just have associate, intern, athletic staff, department people just begging the students, Go back to your seats, and then watching the word spread amongst the crowd that's already stormed the court. File orderly back to their seats, sit down, and then get ready to storm the court again. It never has the same pop.

It was actually a good job of UNC clearing that court. They should get credit for that.

They should. Yeah.

But it was just so perfect. It was such a great Saturday at College Basketball, except for what happened in Indiana. But I'm not going to complain about refs, but that was an injustice, what happened to the Badgers. And if we miss the tournament because of that, I'll be very, very upset. Either way, you had the Michigan State, Illinois game. College basketball is at a great spot right now. If you are one of those people that says that the NIL has ruined college sports and you don't know the guys on your team anymore, you can make that argument. I would make the counter argument for basketball, specifically. The fact that we have NIL and guys get paid, you have some super talented guys playing in college basketball now, some European guys, some guys who are staying a little bit longer because they can make more money playing college basketball.

You got some pros that are playing college basketball.

You got some pros on Alabama.

Yeah, the game has never been stronger.

Then you have some phenomenal freshman this year as well. It's going to be a loaded draft. If you are on the fence of what should I get into, college basketball, I cannot stress it enough, is going to be awesome for the next five weeks. It has been awesome, and it will continue to be awesome going into March.

I did like the quote from Greg Gard where he said this was a stolen win on stolen land.

Stolen land, yeah.

He said, This is a stolen win on stolen land. Yeah.

It was a crazy fucking call, but whatever. And then what pissed me off more is that afterwards, if you zoom in and go slowmo, their feet got tangled. That was not what the ref called. He didn't call a trip or anything, but everyone's like, See, it was a trip. That was the right call. Whatever. I'm still shocked at 41 years old that I can have something like that happen on a Saturday. It was the early game, so it was like 1: 00 and have it completely ruined the rest of my day. I have to be more mature about it. I have to. I have to be more mature. No. I have to realize that you can't have something like that bother you to such a level that it ruins your day. That's what sports are for. I understand, but then I'm going and playing. I did play with my kids all afternoon, but still in the back of my head, I was like, I I cannot believe that call happened when you're fighting for your tournament life. Piss me off. Okay, my who's back in the week is Lindsay Vaughn. I said it last week.

I hope she's okay. Is she okay?

She got airlifted off the mountain.

But was that airlift because how else are you going to get off the mountain?

I think the airlifting off the mountain is what happens when you have a bad injury. It's not always like... It's not the same as getting earlifted off of the sidewalk, where it's like we have to helicopter you to a hospital. But it's not good that she got that a helicopter had to take her away.

I feel bad for her. I hope she's okay. But I did call it when I said that basically every time they say, Hey, Lindsay Vawn is about to ski him, she's going to crash.

But she's also like- I woke up and they were like, Hey, Lindsay Vawn competed this morning and she crashed. The fact that she was in the Olympics and that she was competing was pretty amazing, given that she did not have an ACL. She had a torn ACL, and she was doing the slalom, which I'm not a skier, so maybe I'm way off base on that. It seems like that'd be a hard sport to compete in without an ACL.

Yeah, I feel really bad for her.

Credit to her for even going out there and trying it. Then I saw some people saying that it was unrelated to her ACL. This crash was unrelated. It feels like it has to be. I think one thing leads to another. When you're going down a mountain that fast, if she had an ACL, it probably makes it less likely that she crashes.

Yeah, I don't know. I feel like this goes for all of… Maybe it's just because I don't really… I'm not a big ski guy, but I just tune in and it's like, Oh, and there's a crash. So I feel bad for her. I hope she's okay. I think we won gold.

And skiing? Yeah. Let's go.

I'm pretty sure… Did we win gold in that shit? We did. Fuck, yes.

When does team USA Hockey play first?

Oh, shit. We're at two gold medals. I need... Hold on. Usa Hockey plays Thursday and Saturday.

Love that. Who are we playing?

42, 44. I need 14 more gold medals to hit that bet.

I feel like we got the easiest group in hockey, We should go two and one. I really don't understand. If not three and oh.

They started the Olympics out of nowhere, it felt like.

Well, the fact that they started before the Super Bowl.

It's crazy. Yeah.

I'm thinking about football. I don't have time to think about Well, and also I need you to warm up.

I don't want Lindsay Vaughn. Again, I wish she hadn't crashed. I don't need the giant slalom skiing happening like two days in the Olympics. Give me a little of that thing where they ski around and shoot at something. Give me the loosh or the skeleton, whatever the fuck it is. Save the big dog sports. I want to see ski jump. I want to see giant slalom. I want to see bobsled second week.

And we've got more of the ski jumping shenanigans. Have you been reading about what they're doing now?

Yeah, they're putting something in their penis.

They inject shit into their penises when they're getting fitted for the suits because it gives you a little extra suit space. Which, again, makes you fly a little bit further. So now they're going to have to do standardized testing all nude. You're going to have the piss test people walk in and just make sure that they're not chubbing up before that. Yeah. Yeah, we got Latvia on Thursday, Denmark Saturday, and then Germany on Sunday in men's ice hockey. That seems like a group we should win. It seems like it's all signs pointing towards USA Canada.

Yeah, I'm ready for it. I have to get older here for it.

Busy, busy.

Got to go. What do you got, Zack?

My Who's Back of the Week is Dudes Who Want to Space Travel. You guys are familiar Last couple of years, SpaceX has been talking about building the self-fulfilling colony on Mars, right?

Yeah.

They pivoted to the moon.

So we're doing the moon for- What do you mean?

Instead of trying to build the colony on Mars, they're They've shifted focus to building it on the moon, which they say they can do in a decade instead of 20 plus years.

What about that phrase, shoot for the moon, even if you miss, you land upon the Mars? Why don't we just try to do that?

We went back to the moon, yeah. When was that?

Now they're doing the moon, and you can go every 10 days. Oh. So they're going to build it super fast.

We're not actually on the moon yet, though.

No, they haven't been back super recent. No. But think about, we've got the space station. And to do the Mars travel, you could only go once every 26 months when the planet's lined up. You could hit the moon every 10 days.

It is pretty crazy to think about like, 100 What did he say? 150 years ago, we didn't even have cars, and then we went to the moon. It's credit to us.

Yeah, we did a good job.

We fucking rock.

Now we're thinking about apartments on the moon.

Appartments, townhouses.

Sport, football.

There's no football. There's no football on the moon. I really don't think that you can watch TV on the moon.

Oh, they're going to... Oh, they'll get... Goodell is going to put a game on the moon, and Hank's going to be like, This is a good idea.

We're going to get the Intergalactic audience. Yeah. Grow the game.

Yeah. Felt a little tickle in my throat, Zack.

Me, too.

I've been feeling- You're on watch.

I feel like- Max- might not be here on this.

Your Who's Back of the Week.

My Who's Back of the Week is Hank Toys. Yeah. It just so happened that we got a huge shipment in right when the game hit zeros tonight. So as of now, they're still in stock. I don't know. For now. We sold a lot of them. We sold a whole lot of them, but we got a big shipment in, so we have a lot of stock. But we're running low. If you want your Hank toy, I know a lot of people were trying to get it when we first put it out for Black Friday. Today. There are still some available. As I say this right now, I hope that the people that really wanted them can hear this and go buy it before it sells because it's going to sell out.

It's going to sell quickly. I want to make something very clear, though. It was not my idea to put these back up. It was not Max's idea to put these back up. It was not Big Cat's idea to put these back up. Memes. It was memes. Memes did this. That's your decision. We recused ourselves. Conflict of interest. Can you just back us up on that It seems.

Yeah, 100% my decision. Wasn't influenced at all.

Correct. The way you just said it made it seem like you were influenced, but you weren't. No, it wasn't influenced at all. Okay. All right, good. Love that.

We just needed somebody to make the final decision. I'm happy that you stepped up.

Impartial, yeah.

Yeah, it seems like a lot of people wanted a dog toy. This just feels like a good time for no reason. Perfect time.

But I'm happy dogs are happy.

Yeah, dogs are happy. Yeah, dogs are happy. Yeah, dogs are happy. Dog owners are happy. We're all happy.

Yeah. Good job, Meams. Good decision. Okay, boys. Great show. Great football season. We said, Versillo on Wednesday, and then Tim Woods, and then we're back from vacation after that. Boys, we got a new lottery ball machine, and it is glorious. Holy fuck. It's futuristic. I came into the office before the Super Bowl and went to I put something by my desk, and I almost like, I like, bumped into it, looked up, love at first sight. I was like, Whoa, how did you get here? Lottery ball machine from the future.

Looks like a thick-ass R2D2. Yeah.

None of us We've gotten it on this before. Now, the only problem that we're going to have to figure out is when you turn it on, it sounds like a lawnmower, and then it does get a little bit quieter, but we'll see if this works. Hold on.

Ready? It's got blue balls, too, which is nice. That thing hums. Can you hear that? Yeah. Whether I got to hit me?

It just goes for this section. I don't hate the lawnmower.

No, no, no. But the problem is it does go silent and then comes back randomly.

It's a carburetor or a fuel injection?

All right, so you see, is there a ball? There's a ball right there up top. 32. And then I think... That's how you put them back. Are you guys ready? I didn't even see it. 56.

Those balls fly good. I'm not going to say no.

My bad.

Numbers. 56.

No, Max, you can't do that because you lose your turn. 56. Oh, wait.

Why did that happen?

I think you got to say numbers earlier now.

What was the number? It was 71.

It does not count. All right, it doesn't count.

We're still figuring it out.

Wait. You got to declare numbers earlier now.

Okay.

Numbers. 3. 56.

That thing is loud.

I can't. I have to go last.

Why did you go last? Because he went early.

10. 23. 14. Humming. It stops, though. It stopped for a while. Twenty-eight. Eighty-eight.

Sixty-five. Twenty-sevent.

Twenty-sevent.

Do you want to do one more since it's the first time? Yeah. Break it in a little bit.

Look, see, it stopped. The sound stopped.

Oh, yeah.

I don't understand that. We're going to have to figure that out.

This is fine.

You guys want to do the same numbers? Same numbers. Same numbers, yeah. What did I say? Twenty-three? Yeah. Here it goes. It looks so good. Look at how fucking this shit's flying. And it is 54.

Oh, damn.

Okay. One more?

Happy birthday. You want to go one more?

We got to break it in.

We got to break it in.

All right, one more. Last one. Last one.

Same numbers.

Same numbers. You just want to get it for us so bad. I'm the only one who got it this year. I just like that we're getting bigger and bigger until everyone gets it again.

No one's got it yet, no.

What?

31.

Happy birthday to Saquon Barkley, Cooper D. Jean, and John Cruck. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. Philly. The big three.

Nice.

You guys are also no longer Super Bowl champions.

Yeah.

Happy birthday, though, to Cooper D. Jean and Saquon. Love you guys.

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