Transcript of Jameis Winston, The Boys Are Back In Studio, Kevin Durant's Alleged Burners, NBA All Star Game, Olympics And Vacation Recap

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On today's part of my take, presented by DraftKings, the boys are back. We're back in studio. Everyone's back from a nice vacation. A little football detox, and we've got a lot of things to talk about. National Sports podcast is going to be humming today. We also have a great interview with Jameis Winston. He drops He dropped some news for us that we were very excited about, very, very excited about. So awesome time with him. Then after the Jameis interview, we'll do a little recap of all of our travels back at it, and it's all brought to you by our friends at Game Time. The GameTime app gives you the advantage back to fans. It's a hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in a few taps. It's incredibly easy to use, and the game time guarantee means you can trust you get 100% authentic tickets on time at the best price. Plus, fees are always included. So what you see is what you pay Hey, Hank or Zack, NBA tickets. What do we got? We got something. Zack, you got anything? Oh, no. We've lost both our boys. They're pulling it up.

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Congrats to Sam Darnold.

Okay, because I feel like we didn't really We didn't fully recap the Super Bowl, so anything you want to say about Sam Darnold?

No. Respect him.

I just wanted to go to you first to hear your voice.

Hank, did Sam Darnold turn back into Sam Darnold?

I'm happy for Sam Darnold. Good guy. Elite quarterback.

Elite. Elite. Top five.

If we put Jalen Hertz in the top five, he's got to be in the top five. It has to be. Has to be.

Give me your top five.

Trate May, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Caleb Williams, Jay Daniels. Oh, wow.

Okay. All right. Yeah.

That's fine. I agree. Yeah. Way to appease us.

Turn over a new lead voice.

We had some technical difficulty.

It's friendship time. We had to pause for a second. You said, I'm so over all of this.

No, no. I'm over all this. I was over- You're over it. No, I'm over getting mad.

Oh, yeah, friendship. It's friendship time.

No, no, no. I did not say I'm over this. I'm over this, you guys. I meant I'm over getting mad about you guys trolling me about the picture.

And by the way, the troll was mostly because of your voice. I needed to hear your voice again. So are you okay?

Yeah, same time I was at Disneyland. I was at Disney World. I was riding roller coasters, screaming. I lost my voice.

Yeah, the teacups. Teacups got you.

Splash Mountain.

We can put you on a minute's restriction here. Load management. We are back, though. Where do we want to... We have so many national sports podcast topics. So much. We should start with the fact that we had an All-Star game, a dunk contest, a three-point shootout where Damian Lillard won, who he's not even playing this year. But really, the big story was Kevin Durant might have had another burner exposed. It's fucking awesome because while we have no facts to back it up that it's truly him, I'm just going to choose to believe it's him because he has said that he still has a burner out there. If this is the one, he's He's got a lot of relationships to repair.

He's got takes. I don't know that he's got relationships to repair necessarily. Listen, the man, all he does is just talk shit. If he's not going to do it behind his own account, the Katie Trey one, he's open, at least, about the fact that he's got burners. The burners are get off my Dickerson and get higher 777. Those are the two that appear to have been allegedly exposed. I don't know that they're actually his. They sound like them. The best part, in my was the nickname that he gave to Westbrook. Yeah. Called him triple double cocaine bear, which is the best nickname that I've ever heard. So credit to Kevin Durant.

So you don't think he has anything to repair when he basically trashed the Rockets to say, Shingun can't shoot or pass, and it's your fault. That's your future to the Rockets fans in this group chat.

I don't know. Listen, he might not be a Shinguner. I am a Schengouner. It sounds like he might have some peace to repair with them. But listen, He's going to talk shit. Kevin Durant is going to talk shit online. I think you just can't put 100% stock in what he says.

The craziest part about this is that it all broke during All-Star Game. Again, we don't know if this is actually fact, but it's funny to run with it because it was a very funny story online. The fact that Kevin Durant in every single shot, it felt like for three hours he was on his phone, maybe doing crisis management or Here's another theory. I think there's a chance that Kevin Durant loves burner accounts and NBA Twitter so much. He might have been on a third burner account talking shit about KD. Getting in on the free clicks of how idiotic KD is.

Kd, honestly, he's rent-free inside all our heads right now. It's like every rock we look under, is that KD? Every person that replies to us online, that might be KD. It's pretty awesome. He's got us seeing ghosts. He's prolific poster. He's not going to ever give up the burner account life. That's something that we know about Kevin Durant. I don't think that he said anything too mean. Yeah, he talked a little shit, but it's not like he was super out of pocket.

There was a couple that would probably be an awkward conversation I think there was one that said, ever since Steve Kerr got punched by MJ, he didn't fuck with Darkskin guys. If you see Steve Kerr, you might have to have a... If this is truly him, Yeah, he did call Jibari mentally handicapped. Again, these are his teammates right now. Again, you may think that it might be nothing, but if it is confirmed to be him, I would imagine there could be a couple of awkward conversations that take place afterwards. It's a little different than when his burner account was just going after random people on NBA Twitter. He could be talking just a tremendous amount of shit about his teammates in group chats.

You go to that one about When people think this is true?

I actually don't know. That's a good question, Hank. There is the one, the get off my Dickerson's profile picture is the same image that Katie tweeted five years ago.

It's the owl, right?

It's the owl. That one is a little bit weird. But yeah, it probably is just a Kevin Durant stand who's pretending to be him. That's most likely what the case is.

This one talking about Booker and Vogtle, two dictators, Stalin and Hitler, Mussolini and Kim Jong Un. That might be, yeah, calling a guy Hitler. You might have to have a conversation. That's what I'm saying.

It's a little bit different in that I'm sure Kevin Durant will be just fine, but there could be some awkward conversations.

I swear I miss Ben Simmons. At least that friend would give me the ball.

The potential Katie Berner said about-What team was he on with Simmons? The Nets. Shaneuni said, I'm going to turn the ball over with this shitty-ass team. I don't give a fuck. Your franchise player can't shoot or defend. That's a way bigger issue than my turnover is, remember, these guys are your future.

I have to imagine that every NBA player is like this all the time. None of them seem very happy.

I think there's no one like Kevin Durant. He is a one of one.

The only guys that seem like they're happy are the Oklahoma City Thunder. Everybody else seems like there's something going on in their life that makes it... In theory, being in the NBA would be the best job ever. You have nothing to worry about, but nobody is ever happy.

Yeah, there's some guys that are happy. Steph Curry seems pretty happy. Steph Curry, shout out. Steph Curry, good teammate. Did you see the report last week about the Kamenga Trade? There was a big, I think it was on Yahoo, where someone wrote about everything that transpired in the last few years with the Kaminga. One of the nuggets in it was that there were complaints that Kominga's family took too much food in the family, whatever, sweet area. Steph Curry came out was like, That's ridiculous. This is fucked up. That's a good teammate.

That's also like family. That's the stuff that family would actually argue about.

We shouldn't be food-shaming. The other thought I had when this all happened, because it came out before the All-Star Game, which the All-Star Game, credit to them, was entertaining because a couple of guys were actually trying. Anthony Edwards was trying.

Wemby?

Wemby was trying. Jokić and Luka were total zeros. They didn't even play in the last game. But All the talk going into this weekend was the NBA All-Star Game has hit a new low. It's so bad. The three-point contest, the dunk contest has guys that are... If it weren't for... Who is it? Jace Richardson almost dying of hitting his head off the backboard and then getting concussed. There was no real memorable moment from the dunk contest. And then they were doing a new format for the All-Star Game. So could there be a chance that they were like, Hey, let's leak a KD burner account so that if this All-Star Game doesn't work out, we have something that people are talking about. It's not just the All-Star Weekend sucks and tanking is ruining the NBA.

Maybe something- Smart by them. To share screenshots of online instead of Michael Jordan shots this weekend.

Listen, Michael Jordan won the Daytona 500. I don't know what you're talking about. He did. He won the Daytona 500.

Lebron has not done that. Yeah. Lebron has never done that.

Oh, speaking of LeBron, not that we're keeping track of any of these things, but did you know that LeBron broke a record today?

Did not know that. Yeah.

He has lost his 11th All-Star Game, most of all time. Wow.

Very impressive.

Yeah, but you got to get there. You got to get there if you're going to lose it.

So did every game today count, though, as a loss? I know that they won, but so- Yeah, they did not end up winning the- Because they didn't win the overall.

Yeah, there were two losers, the stars or stripes, and then the world. Got it. And then one of the stars or stripes USA1.

Usa1. The good part of the USA.

Yes, big time.

Love that. Good for us.

I did like Anthony Edwards being like, I haven't been on social media in three years. Yeah, we know. Yeah, we know, dude. We know. But yeah, that was There was a lot of weird shit that came out. It's very funny. You can basically just, anytime there's a lull, just hit the KD burner controversy, and NBA Twitter just erupts in in everyone just having a great time.

I think we've been pretty consistent about the All-Star Game recently, where if you get mad about the All-Star Game, what are you expecting? We have no real room to be upset with it anymore because it's been so bad for so long. No, I don't give a fuck about it. I will I'm going to say that Mac McClung not being in the dunk contest sucked. He should have been in there.

Well, so he actually chose not to.

Yeah, but they should have made him go into it.

I hate that I'm saying this, but I did read an entire feature on Mac McClung today, and he It sucks. He basically decided not to do it because he's been almost boxed in to being the dunk guy. It talked about his journey being in G League, being in two-way contracts, how after he won the first one, Reggie Miller was saying, Give this guy a contract. His mom was talking to Adam Silver. He said, Hey, this is finally going to be the moment. None of that happened. After three in a row, he was like, This is not going to help me get a contract. Then you just keep working on my game. So I actually feel bad. He's become a prisoner of the dunk. Yeah, but- It's happened multiple times in his career because he said in college, he didn't dunk for an entire year because everyone wanted to talk about his dunks.

Right, but still, I think this show, more than maybe any other show, has talked about Mac McClung outside of the dunk contest, probably more than every other sports podcast combined. Yeah. He should be on an act. He should be playing in the NBA, but I especially need him during the dunk contest. Yeah, but I feel bad for him. And then his excuse for In the dunk contest, he said that if he goes in, then other guys will actually drop out because they know that he'll kick his ass.

Oh, we might have lost Chase Richardson.

Yeah. These guys might be afraid to compete against Matt.

You can't have that. No. No, I felt bad for Mac McClung. He's like, Everyone just sees me as the dunk guy, and I'm trying to make an NBA roster, and it's not helping me. So he did release the dunks that he would have done, which would have been sick. Yeah. But yeah, I'm happy that Mac McClung was like, You know what? You can't just use for my dunks anymore. Because that was what it was. It's like, Hey, let's hit the Mac McClung button so that we can have at least something to watch on Saturday night. It's like, No, put me in the NBA, and then I'll come back.

You know what? I'm going to join him. I'll go on strike from dunking until Mac McClung is on an NBA roster. Will you join?

Yeah, I'm in. Absolutely in.

Memes? Actually, no. No promises.

Oh, okay. You're going to dunk again? Or attempt to dunk again?

I'm just saying no promises.

Or talk about dunking for six months?

I'm willing to promise that I will not be dunking. Okay.

All right.

Absolutely will not be dunking.

I'm not making He's got any promises.

Not with that voice. We also had Adam Silver is maybe going to address tanking. There's going to maybe be a tournament among the lottery teams to determine draft order. I like that. My rule that I came up with, or actually, I think our colleague and good friend nick came up with it. What they need to do for all sports is if you don't reach a certain level of win percentage in consecutive years, you have to sell the team, which that would be awesome, too. If you win less than 20 games in the NBA for three years straight, you should have to sell the team.

I think that if they're planning on doing this tournament, they're going to have all the lottery picks play against each other, and then the winner of that, then gets the first pick. What is to stop a team that's going to be bottom half of the playoffs from tanking to get to the lottery and then dominating that? It's not well thought out. I don't think that's going to work at all. No. I think this is actually one of the worst ideas that he's had.

Yeah. No, What they should do, it feels pretty simple, is that it should be after March or whatever, pick a random date and be like, Losing no longer helps you. You know what I mean? The losses do not add to your lottery balls at this point. There are certain teams- Arbitury date and be like, Guess what? It's set. So obviously, that would just move tanking up maybe a little bit earlier in the year. But yeah, it does suck right now that it seems like half the league is going to... Or not half the league, but there's a quality seven or eight teams are like, We're just not even... Jaron Jackson has knee surgery.

You got to trade to the jazz. There are certain teams that are ethically tanking, that are just honestly bad at playing basketball. Correct. Not because they're manipulating their roster in any weird way. Those teams, I feel like they get absolutely fucked. There's only one way that you can really establish a true turnaround in the NBA, and that's to either trade for a superstar somehow, have one fall into your lap. It would be to be one of the handful of five destinations that a top-tier free agent would want to go to to build a franchise, or just luck out in the draft lottery. It feels like this would be a really easy way for that to all backfire and to have Average teams now tank just to get into the lottery, then beat people's asses to get the number one overall pick.

Adam Silver did say that he would also consider getting rid of the draft and making all rookies free agents. That would be fascinating.

That is Florio's wet dream, right?

Florio has been on this. He's been spouting this for a long time that every college kid coming into the NBA or the NFL should be a free agent, and then teams can allocate what they Guys can come and be like, Hey, I want to play for a winner. I'm going to take less money because of the cap.

But they can circumvent the cap.

How?

Trees. Trees.

Trees. I forgot about the trees.

Shoe deals.

Shoe deals. If that tree money doesn't come through, then you can just find a judge in Alabama that lets you go back to school.

That's true. Or a judge in Alabama that won't let you go back to school. Yeah, that's true. A judge in Mississippi that will let you go back to school. A judge in Alabama that won't let you go to school. Yeah. It's a good point, Hank.

Yeah. I mean, it would be interesting to see how it worked out. I think it would make the league worse.

This is like when everyone was like, We should pay college players. And then that happened.

Yeah. Now Here we are, having one of the best college basketball seasons we've had in a really long time.

Yeah, and football season rock. The playoff was awesome.

Never mind.

There are some downsides to N-I-L. I'm strongly against it.

I think N-I-L is bad.

You think N-I-L is bad?

I think it's reversed.

Bootlicker Hank, let's go.

No, never mind. No, I want to hear it. This is the greatest college football season ever. Greatest college basketball season ever. The star player of Kansas doesn't even play because it's agents don't want them to play so we can get drafted higher.

That's because of drafting. That has nothing to with NIL. You can honestly argue it would be worse if there wasn't NIL.

Yeah, because they at least get paid now.

There's a lot of guys who are playing really hard because they're making a lot of money now.

All right, I was wrong. I'm sorry.

No, it's okay. You want to have a Sam Darnold again?

It is good to just be like... Your voice is cracking. You just use the term nowadays with NIL, it just covers everything that you don't like about the sport.

You're right that there are definitely some bad side effects to NIL. There are some moments where... I mean, it's hard to root for your college team now because guys change nonstop. Nil in basketball this year, it has been an incredible basketball season. But yeah, there's some downside to NIL for sure. You're absolutely spot on. We're positive now. We're friends.

Yeah.

You know what, Hank? I'd like for you, maybe with Zack, I'd like for you to design counter programming for next year's Barstool Half-Time show with Mincey. Do like your non-woke Barstool Half-Time show.

That'd be cool.

The one with Mincey was too woke. It was like all hippy, hippy, hippy, drug use, that shit.

What don't you like about it?

Why are you going to be there?

I'll be at the game.

You're covering it?

Super Bowl? Yeah.

We'll be back. You want to bet? No. Make a bet.

You want to bet, you pussy?

Make a bet.

Nope.

All right.

Make a bet.

I bet you five bucks.

Okay, deal.

But Hank, your point was correct that NIL has some very big downsides.

Apparently not. Best college football season. No, no. I was wrong. You were right.

No, no, no, no, no, But there have been some parts of NIL that are head scratchers and really annoying.

You just use one example that didn't have anything to do with NIL. That was the only thing that...

Players getting paid.

No, you use the Kansas guy as an example, but that's what he does.

Yeah, because he has an agent. I do think that- He's not playing because he has an agent.

I do think that- No, he's not playing because he doesn't want to hurt his draft stock.

Who do you think is telling him to do that?

You don't think that these guys have had agents before?

But you don't think they've had-They weren't allowed to.

But they're not real agents. They were not allowed to. Not real agents, but they had guys that were telling them what they were going to do.

Okay, yeah. But you're saying they might have, but this is literally-I think that sucks. Here's why that sucks for-He has an actual agent, and his agent who is looking out for his best interest to make money in the NBA is like, Don't play.

Here's why I think that sucks right now.

It's not just him independently being like, I shouldn't play.

Here's why I think that sucks right now is because the way the NIL is set up, you're relying on a bunch of donations from local business guys, famous boosters, alumni that are well off of the school that are going to try to pay to get you the best roster as possible. The second they start paying millions of dollars, we're talking like millions of dollars for a quarterback, millions of dollars for a star basketball player, and those guys just take the money and don't play, then that money is going to dry up for NIL. So that does affect everybody and it sucks. But it's not like guys weren't... They didn't have agents that they would talk to beforehand and they would sometimes... We had guys sitting at bowl games Because of college, because of the draft stock.

Covid was... There were guys sitting out full season.

Michael Parsons sat out the full year. Yeah.

Derek Stingley, didn't he sit out?

Did he sit out? He might have. Yeah, I know Parsons did. Yeah.

Either way, back to the NBA, I just love that going into the All-Star Weekend, it was just all negative talk. I feel like everyone was just tanking All-Star Weekend sucks. You just got to get through February. Get to the playoffs.

We had the what if it was a Black versus White game debate.

Yeah, nick Wright threw that out there.

I like that. We've had that. Who gets Steph Curry? Because if we can get him for the third quarter- I don't know.

I don't know.

I think if we just got him for- I don't know. If we had him for the third quarter, I like our odds. Yeah.

Were there American guys playing on the World team, too, today? Were there memes? What were the rosters? Somebody was cats from New Jersey, but he's been on the DR team since he was 15. Yeah, he plays international, yeah. I Listen, it was actually better than I thought it would be. There were guys trying, and there were moments where I was like, Okay, this is actually somewhat of a fix. But yeah, to your point, PFT, I'm done ever caring about the also. The The only All-Star game that still is cool or holds any relevance is the baseball All-Star game because you can still throw 99 and still try to hit a ding off someone. Yeah. Even that, we had the controversy last year where half the team left.

We had the swing off.

We had the swing off. Remember everyone was mad Because Aaron Judge was gone? Yeah. They're not going to care about All-Star.

All-star games, their exhibitions are supposed to be fun, like that Four Nations thing that we had last year. Exactly. Who knows who won that. You're not supposed to remember who won these things. It's something that will be on your TV to entertain you on a day in which there should not normally be sports on TV. Yes. So just be glad that you get to see a hoop and a ball, and then some guys that you recognize from other games and be like, Oh, okay, this is a sport. I get to watch it, maybe even bet on it.

The only other NBA story I had was Chris Paul retired when we were on vacation. Probably the worst retirement tour ever because he got cut from the Clippers and then his rights sent to Toronto, and he's like, I think I'm just done. I read another long... I had a flight today, so I was doing some reading, no big deal, not to brag, but basically what went wrong. It just was an entire article about Chris Paul just being the most annoying guy in the world to be around because he was brought in as a reserve player, and he just tried to coach everyone and do team meetings after the first game of the season when they lost and telling guys that they're not switching defensive adjustments and all this stuff. I understand why the Clippers were like, Hey, we can't do this anymore.

Yeah, they were like, Chris Paul has just become the Coach is right, guys. Let's all listen. He was a narc. They never really trusted him.

No, it was the other way.

That Chris Paul was a narc.

No, he was going against the coaches.

But he was trying to coach himself?

No, he was saying the coaches are wrong, trying to coach the players. And then The coaches were like, Hey, we brought you in to just be a reserve guy, be a good go with the flow. He was trying to hold... One of the stories was they got blown out in the first game of the season, and Chris Paul, they all get back to locker room, Chris Paul wants to have a discussion with the team about it, and everyone was like, No, dude, we don't want to do that. Then there was another one where he's trying to get guys to work out or telling guys how to play. I think it's more credit... I guess it would be credit to Chris Paul for having such a long career because he only knows one speed, and that's to just be an insane competitive psycho all the time. They brought him in being like, Hey, can you just be a chill guy for your last year? And he couldn't do it.

I don't think anybody that's had that much success Most people would not be good at accepting that role.

But there are guys. The story goes, too, that afterwards, they had a three-way FaceTime. It was him, Blake Griffin, and what's the tall guy's name from those teams? Deandre Jordan. They had a little icy relationship, but has thawed recently, the three of them. They all were having a laugh because they all got screwed over by the Clippers at some point and just laughing about it. It's just like a Blake Griffin or DeAndre Jordan. They are able to play maybe not all a starter minute and be a positive influence to the team. Chris Paul can't. He just has to be Chris Paul at all times.

Yeah, I mean, he just didn't... I don't know. I need to read this article and figure it out more about what he did and didn't do, because it seems to me like if you're getting Chris Paul on your team, there's enough body of evidence to know what Chris Paul is going to be, right? It's not like this is something had just crept up while he was on the Clippers.

They thought they had a plan.

He's been bad before and a bad fit on other teams recently. Correct. They're like, This can work with us because of a reason.

Because it's his last year. We want to send him off in a nice way and all that stuff. But yeah, it just was never going to work. I think one of the quotes was just like, When he was a good player, he's a pain in the ass. Now that he's not a good player, he's still a pain in the ass. You can't have that.

Because I haven't seen much from Chris Paul that showed any mellowing out over the last few years.

Correct. Yeah. Inside the ugly Chris Paul, LA Clippers divorce. That was from Ramona Shelbert. It was extensive. I just love reading any of these stories after the fallout and everyone being like, Yeah, we saw this coming. This was from an executive. He was a pain in the ass when he was a great player, and now he's not a great player.

I guess he was a good teammate when he was on Spurs, right? Yeah, I think He didn't hear that much about him when he was in San Antonio. Yeah.

I think it's more just it's hard. He wants to be very involved, and it's hard if you're... The Clippers were a team with a lot of veterans who didn't need a Chris Paul telling him, The Spurs are a young team, so it probably worked better.

Embrace debate. Is he on the Mount Rushmore of the greatest of all time to not get a rank?

He's one of the greatest point guards of all time. That's for sure. So I don't know. Yeah, he might be.

Hank?

Basketball, probably.

Yeah, he probably is. I'm trying to think of who else.

Isaiah?

Which Isaiah?

No, you know what? Kd. Kd? Kd.

Which Isaiah were you talking about?

I was about to refer to Isaiah Thomas, but then I realized that he did win a ring. Two of them?

Yeah.

But I had them mixed up with the dream team. Got it. Not on the dream team.

Wasn't on the dream team. Listen, we're coming back from vacation. Coming back from vacation. Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, John Stockton, AI, Patrick Ewing. Yeah, Steve Nash. He's definitely in that category. Chris Paul. Yeah, he's definitely up there with them. Great player. Great point card. We'll maybe have Rassilo on to do a full breakdown of how good Chris Paul was. He worked 21 years in the NBA. He's crazy.

That is a very long time.

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I want to talk a Olympics. We can talk Olympics. I don't want to talk about Olympics yet.

Okay. We do have to talk about Olympics. We will talk about Olympics. And those fucking cheating fucks from Canada.

We will talk about the Olympics. I want to talk about the Olympics. Okay.

You go ahead.

Curling.

Curling. Major drama.

I didn't see it. Okay. I didn't see it. Who's to say?

All right, so here's- I saw the replay.

It seems unclear.

I did some legwork. Again, like I said, I had a long flight today, so I was prepped for the show. I got our expert. I got a report from our expert, All business, Pete, on the Curling Controversy. I'm going to explain it to you how he explained it to me, and I think it actually makes sense. So in Curling, the first thing you got to know is it's a gentleman's sport. In that there are no umpires. There are no refs. There are no umpires. There are guys that are there to help settle disputes and measure the rocks and all that shit. But there's no official ref.

Okay, so it's like community organizing.

Yeah. So you call your own fouls. You're not supposed to call fouls on the other team. You're supposed to call your own fouls, all that stuff. Now, the hog line, I believe, is that green line. It's the hog line. That's the hog You are not allowed to touch the stone past the hog line. And this is something I didn't realize that Pete told me that's very interesting. You're not allowed to touch. You're not supposed to touch the stone except for the holder piece. You're not supposed to touch the granite. The handle. Yeah, the handle. Thank you, Hank. The handle. There's a sensor on the handle. So if you're holding the handle past the hog line, there will be a sensor that goes off. That's he's touching the granite because there's no sensor on the granite. And apparently everyone knew that Canada was cheating. Sweden had their own broadcast cameras basically set up on the hog line to catch them in the act. Then they called them out on it. And also, you're not supposed to swear. That was the other thing I learned. You're not supposed to swear during crawling. It's a gentleman. So the fact that the Canadian guy said, Fuck off, was disgusting.

Kids Kids are watching.

All right, so I'm looking at this replay that they brought up. You zoomed in on it. They cheat. Who's to say? They cheat. My understanding is that there's no actual cheating in the sport because there's no rules in the sport.

Yeah, but it's a gentleman. It's similar to golf. So they found- You're supposed to call your own fouls.

They found a loophole, which is that if there's no actual refs, then people can cheat and get away with it. Correct.

But now they look like absolute assholes, and Canada cheats.

This is a bad look for Canada.

Big time bad look.

Just Canada as a nation. I thought that they would be better than this.

I want to make sure I didn't miss anything. But yeah, it's good. It's controversy. Listen, it's good for the sport.

The US is good now, right, at Curling?

So the US We need to get behind Team USA because that was the other thing I got from Pete. I asked him how we're doing. He said, The women's team has never won a medal, and they're actually playing really well. And the men's team was the ninth out of 10th team to qualify, and they're also playing really well. So he was like, It's tremendous team pride and country pride. I said, I don't root for losers. I want to win. He said, Well, you have a national sports podcast. You need to get behind Team USA. Consider me right as this moment Officially behind Team USA and Curling.

Why don't we just cheat harder than Canada does?

Yeah, I don't know. I'm trying to make sure that I didn't miss any. He sent me way too much shit, and he said at the beginning, It's really boring.

So Pete's official call is for Canada to clean it up.

They need to clean up the cheating.

They need to clean it up. Just clean it up. Titen up the sheet. Okay.

All right.

Hey. That's a fair call.

Why don't they just do fights? It's hockey adjacent. You're on the ice. Just settle it like men on the... Is it a curling arena? On the lanes? Yeah, the sheet of ice.

I think I'm playing curling with Pete on this.

Settle it on the lanes like a man. Yeah, they should. Just punch him in the face. He won't do it again. Just take that finger, stick it up his Even muttering the F word to yourself would be considered a faux pas on curling.

I just don't like the Canada sheets. I guess Canada hasn't won a gold in 10 years, too, and this is supposed to be their sport, so they're getting frustrated.

It is a bad look for Canada as a whole, the reputation that we have.

It matters because what he's doing when he puts his finger on the granite is he's correcting his release. You know what I mean? He's releasing the stone, and then he's fixing it a little bit with the extra finger. Yeah.

I feel like we've had this controversy before in Curling. There have been teams that have been accused of keeping the finger on the stone for too long. But it does seem like this was a set up by Sweden because they knew. Oh, yeah. They did advanced scouting of Canada, and they knew where to put all the cameras. It's like they could have told them beforehand, We know that you're going to do it, don't do it. But they almost would rather catch them and expose them.

Apparently, Great Britain also had cameras set up. They all knew. So Canada cheats. That's our Curling Minute. Do we have any other Olympics stuff? I saw the guy going backwards down the- That was sick. That was so sick. Yeah.

I just assume that's how all those freestyle mogul races finish. You should have to go backwards at the end.

I'm ready for the hockey. I'm ready for the meaningful hockey games to happen. We won our first two games. Three. Three games. Now we're in the bracket phase. I'm ready. I'm ready for Team Canada.

It's fun getting a root for Austin Matthews. Yeah. That's pretty cool. It's tough having a root against Tom Wilson. I'm going to hate him.

It was funny watching Matthew Kachuk, say to Leon Dreisetel, always a bridesmaid. Also, Katie Kachuk met Elmo. Yeah. Did you see that? He said it was a unique opportunity to meet Elmo. It is. I don't even understand what the context is of that.

They've already got their- Why Where are they meeting Elmo? Elmo and the Muppets, they show up around these things all the time.

They're just there?

Yeah.

Elmo's there?

Elmo's always around.

Katie Kachuk called it a unique opportunity to meet Elmo.

Do we have a mascot for these Olympics? The official mascot's for Olympic Games.

It's in Italy, right?

They always crack me up. Yeah.

It's just a big meatball.

Is it?

That would be funny if it was like an Otto the Orange meatball. Max, you got to put on your...

Find me that mascot.

I feel like that was by Italian discrimination by you not knowing that it was in Italy. How did you not know that it was- I knew it was in Italy.

I just couldn't remember. Is it Torino? No. Milan. Milan. Torino was the last one.

There's two cities. It's split.

Milan and where?

I haven't watched a lot of the Olympics. I'm waiting for the hockey to get good.

The quad God, did you see that?

You have dominated today. This was the first one that I watched from start to finish.

Yeah, but I want the knockout face. I'm ready for the knockout face because it wasn't the beginning of the hockey. It's like, We're going to be in the knockout.

That's what I like about the curling is the curling, it seems like it lasts from the very start to the very end of the Olympics. It's always on in the back.

Well, it's like there's 10 teams and everyone plays each other, and then there's a final four starting on Thursday.

Oh, We do have an update to that biathlete that apologized to his girlfriend for cheating on her. She said that she was not impressed and is not taking it back. Good for her. Yeah. Girlpower. Should have been a gold. She takes it back.

So we're playing Sweden or Latvia. That's our next game on Wednesday.

We're going to crush them.

Then if we get to the finals, it's Sunday morning at 8: 00 AM. Kind of love that. Love sports Sunday mornings at 08: 00 AM.

It's good. It's real good.

Especially in foreign soil. International.

International.

Love that shit.

Humped. It has to be US, Canada.

It has to be.

If the Olympics, if they were anything like our fancy American sports league or like FIFA, they would rig it to make sure that US and Canada played no matter what. I hope they do the right thing.

Yeah, I'd agree.

Did you guys hear the crazy story from the Olympic Village?

Oh, I'm having sex again?

Yeah. Listen, there's a few different rites of passage that you have every single Olympic Games. One is Like a reporter complaining about their hotel room and the faucet was just installed and it just shoots out brown water and I'm going to complain. There's wolves in it. Yeah, there's wolves walking down the hallway. There's actually usually a curlin' controversy or an ICE controversy like we've had this year. Then there's sex talk with condoms.

Then there's always some person being like, Why is this a story every time? There really is no reason other than the fact that it's a bunch of super athletic I think early 20-year-olds living in a village. It's college. It's college with only hot bodies.

Yeah, they're going to fuck.

It's ASU.

They're definitely going to fuck.

That's all it is. It's ASU. That's what's happening in Milan right now.

So everyone's just magging each other. Yeah. Who are these two mascots here?

That would be Milo and Tina.

Milo and Tina. What are they?

Otters?

I don't know.

What the fuck are they?

Milan and Cortina.

I think that's where it's taking place. I think they're climate-changing weasels. Oh, no.

Are they related?

Shame on you, Max. Climate-changing... Maybe a ferret. Ferrets?

Weasels? If they're climate-changing weasels, they get hot and cold.

It should have been a meatball.

They're wearing little Italian flags.

It should have been a meatball.

I need to know more about the lure behind these two. Are they brother or sister? We're third. Why do they look different?

Poland's mascot is a That's awesome.

They are brother and sister.

Okay, good. How come they look different? Different dad? Different mom?

Older sister, Tina, represents the Olympic Winter Games. Younger brother, Milo, represents the Paralympics and has a limb difference.

Wait, so the younger brother- He's missing one leg and uses his tail to...

I don't know.

Yeah, for the Paralympics. This is right.

This is good.

This is from nbc. Com. Okay.

We're not laughing at him right now. But the younger one is an amputee.

He's lost a leg.

His motto is, Obstacles are trampolines.

Okay.

While the sister lives by the words dream big.

That seems more dangerous for a Paralympic, right? Yeah. If all the obstacles were trampolines.

Do we know how he lost his leg? Is this a landmine?

Getting double bounced with only one leg on a trampoline? That can't be fun.

That could be how he lost a leg, too. Yeah.

By the way, the metal update, Norway is kicking everyone's ass. I don't care about the Silver and Bronze. Bronze. I just want the gold. We're in third right now. Canada has one gold medal. Disgusting. That's sad. Yeah, really sad. Really fucking sad. Milo and Tina. Tina could get it. Yeah, I said it. What are they?

Are they weasels?

They're technically stotes. A weasel-like creature native to the Italian Alps.

They're cute as fuck.

Stote.

They're cute as fuck. Any other Olympic stuff? I still have yet to watch a significant portion of the Olympics. I'm going to do it this week.

No.

Their coats change color. In the summer, they were brown, and then in the winter, they changed to white. It's one way that Stoats adapt to their climate. This is a fun article.

How can we celebrate Stoats, but then we lock Rachel Dela Zell up in prison?

Shout out to NBC.

Fun article. What a... Hank's got a take. Hank's brewing on a take. I want to hear it. Let her rip it. Really It's so bad. Go. I want it so bad right now.

You don't like other countries.

Come on.

No, this is a drunk take. Let's go. Okay. But the conversation, I think we did summer Olympics when we talk about Olympic sports, you can medal in. Yeah.

Oh, I like this.

The skeleton is a joke.

Well, no, I think that's actually proven fact that the average amount of person they have three years experience.

Yeah. I also think that the skeleton is terrifying.

I also saw one tweet that said that. I have no idea if that's actually true. It was a reply tweet to someone being like, What should I...

Maybe we need to get a skeleton or a looser on here to tell us we're so wrong. How do you even train? That is my biggest gripe with some of these sports. When you're watching Michael Phelps swim or Usain Bolt run, you're like, That is the greatest runner or swimmer of all time. He's better than everyone. When I watch the best looser win by a fraction of a second, I'm like, Well, that guy just decided to do looge. 99. 9% of the world just doesn't do looge. Why would we do looge?

That dude's got a great helmet and a very fast suit, and he's like a jockey, weighs the exact right amount, and then he trains occasionally. It doesn't feel like it requires that much skill, but it does seem scary I think the only skill it requires is having a parent who's hell-bent on getting their kid in the Olympics, and they just throw them on a Loosh when they're kids.

Because I don't know how you... I've never even been around a Loosh. No. I haven't seen a Loosh track. How do you get into the looge? How do you get into the skeleton? You're probably- Bob Slid seems like a fucking good time because that's just you and the boys just going down the hill. Yeah.

Also one of the greatest movies of all time. Yeah. Bob Slid is legit.

Maybe that's the thing. Looge has to get a sick movie.

The skeleton.

Is there a difference? Yeah, lose his feet first, skeleton's head first. But the same thing.

Is it a thing that there's actually partners? Is that not right, Max?

There's partner looge? I have no idea. I feel like it's all about your equipment.

Right. That's what I'm saying.

That's not-And your get off. I feel it's got to be your get off.

We make jokes about sprint.

It's just running fast to start. I mean, Cool Running has proved it. Right. They just got a bunch of sprinters and almost won the whole thing.

We make jokes about.

That's true. I don't think that they almost won the whole thing.

I don't feel the rhyme.

If they didn't crash in the very end.

They had a better bobsled.

If they had a better bobsled, they were breaking records.

But here's a stone cold fact.

Dorece Banek was flying.

If the University of Georgia wanted to. Correct. They could take their guys that love to break the laws on the roads, put them on a bobsled track, and become a dinosaur.

Devon A-Chain would be the best loser of all time. Give me a not A super tall guy who's super fast.

Tyreek Hill, Brandon Ayuk.

I think I also have just realized all of our knowledge of this is based on cool runnings. Correct. I was trying to explain it to Hank, and we both were just saying that we were both going back to cool runnings.

You can't put weights in the bob sign. Yeah. Okay. Can't do that. Otherwise, they'll bust up John Candy.

Web stuff. I'm going to need you to bring up a video of doubles looge.

Yeah, those guys just laying on each other. Doubles Loosh is wild. That is wild.

You talk about a wild sport.

Look at that, double looge.

I have to think.

That's got to be harder than normal looge, at least. The balance of the guy on top.

But I watched it, and I don't even understand. I actually did watch I can't remember. I think it was women's looge, and they were all within 0. 05 seconds of each other. I was like, I don't even understand how. Like, Oh, she took that turn wrong. No, she didn't. She went five down the turn.

Yeah, bobsled looks awesome to me. That guy's got his face in his ass. I'm pretty sure that was a photo of his shot.

That was AI. That was AI.

Is there women's doubles loosh?

There's got to be.

I feel like it'd be faster if the guy on top was face down.

Well, they should go 69. Yeah, they should 69 the double loosh for sure. They don't have women's double loosh?

That seems like a huge mix.

I'm not seeing women's doubles loosh.

Oh, that's fucked up.

That's a big-time miss.

I'm also searching Twitter, which is I have a bad tendency to do.

That's okay.

It's been good Olympic talk. I feel like we've gotten a lot of women's double loosh. Yeah, there's women's double loosh.

Italy won. Good.

Yeah, the European countries all win these because I feel like that's their third biggest sport. We have football, we have basketball, we have baseball. They have soccer, then some ancient sport where they hit each other with a stick, and then loosh.

I feel like the basketball should be a Winter Olympics sport.

I don't hate that take.

I don't hate that take at all. It should. It should.

Just to get us another gold.

It should give us something to care about during the Winter Olympics because right now we got hockey, and that's pretty much it.

Yeah. You know what? Curly. Long jump as well.

Yeah, sure. You can do it.

Long jump in the snow. Yeah.

Fencing. Gymnastics is also inside. That could be-Yeah, gymnastics.

Why is fencing a summer Olympic sport?

I don't know. That's good Olympic talk. Good Olympic talk. Good Olympic talk. I'm going to watch some Olympics this week. I'm going to really get into it. I think I'm going to become a big curling. When I say that, if I remember to turn it on, I will- Curling is tough.

I started to watch it this morning.

It's Bocce without the Italians, without a fat Italians having busting each other's balls. That's really what it needs.

Bocce would be fun.

Bocce would be great. Bocce would be great. Just some old Italian guys just having the same bitter argument they've had every single week for 40 years straight.

Bocce should absolutely be in the summer. Now, that's summer Olympics sport. That is. That's a definition of a summer sport.

Correct. Curling, to me, seems like it's a sport that's normally played with a beer in your hand, right?

Yeah. Maybe no.

Bocce. You're thinking of Bocce.

No, I know for a fact Bocce, but it seems like curling would be the indoor equivalent.

How would you hold the broom?

Yeah, you got to have two hands on the broom.

There's definitely some guys that can hold the broom and the beer. Or maybe you put your beer down while you do it.

What if we did an Olympics, but it was all beer games?

Whoa. Then you have different teams competing against it. What would you call it?

A beer Olympics?

A beer Games.

To get like Bert and Shane to come. Be fucking sick. Be so sick.

I'm down.

Okay. Any other national sports? Should we talk some college basketball? Actually not the best Saturday, although Texas Tech, awesome win against Arizona. I'll just say this. I have two topics I want to talk about, but I did make some future bets. I tweeted it out when I made them, but I bet Florida, 19 to one, Yukon, 15 to one, and the Badgers at 150 to one because the Badgers just keep slaying giants and have had quite the week. And Max is the biggest Badger fan out there, which is great. Max is? Well, because Vilanova beat Wisconsin in December. Every time Wisconsin wins-We have no good wins.

It's the better for Vilanova. The better Wisconsin does.

It's like, okay, okay, we beat Wisconsin.

I was told that Max will text me being like, need a win tonight. I was told Vilanova solid in. They're solid. They're locked to get in.

I think the Badgers are solid in now.

Yeah, I think we're both at an eight seed right now, which is still that solid in.

I mean, it was awesome.

No one's got 20 wins.

Kicking the shit out of Michigan State was very, very fun. The other one was that foul in the Providence-St. John's game. They got to get rid of came English because it feels like I love Providence Twitter, but it feels like Providence Twitter This is not their fault because it's the fans, but Providence as a program has become way more about getting revenge than actually winning basketball games. Can't wait for Ed Cooley to come back to the dunk. Can't wait for Bryce Hopkins to come back to the dunk. They just haven't won basketball games. Again, that's Kim English's fault. But we got to get back to winning basketball games.

But when they lose, it's like they've got the real game coming up. Dude. It's like, How are we going to get revenge for this loss?

That actually was a crazy foul because it was bad. The picture is so much worse for people who didn't see it. The picture of Powell taking down Bryce Hopkins by the face. Then they had a brawl, and they let Powell just while the rest were figuring out, they ejected him, and then he just stayed out on the court for 20 minutes, whipping up the crowd.

That was a interesting move. Listen, if you have that- Look at that picture. If you have that haircut and you commit that foul, just understand it's going to look a million times. You're not going to get the benefit of any doubt.

Hank, ready? N-i-l, back to your take. Good take. This was Duncan Powell, who is on Providence for the first... This is his first year playing for Providence. I think he's played for three other schools, seeking vengeance because Bryce Hopkins transferred from Providence to St. John's, and he's on his second school or another school. So they never played together, but he's getting revenge. Makes no sense.

It was a double reverse It makes no sense.

Yeah. That was a hell of a foul.

Hell of a foul.

Hell of a foul. Then I just- Jerome Tang? Jerome Tang, yeah. See you. I don't really understand the with cause part. It feels like it's going to be… Wait, Duncan Powell, this is his fourth team that he's playing on. He's got to make sure that for the Friars, he lets him know.

This time, it's personal.

Yeah, this time, it's personal. He's been on providence.

He's bought in.

For over four months. That's Bryce Hopkins' third team.

This dude's bought in.

Classic rivalry. Fourth-team guy versus third-team guy. They never played together. Jerome Tang, the with cause part is going to be interesting to see what happens.

With cause sounds like they were saying, Hey, Jerome, you might want to resign soon. And then he was like, No, I don't think that I will. And they said, Okay, well, we have for cause. And then Tang was like, I don't believe that you do. And then they said, Okay, we'll call your bluff. And now it's going to go to court. So that'll be fun.

Yeah, that is going to be.

It's going to be a lot of rumors that float around out there.

I don't know. It could just be as simple as him trashing all the players the other night in the press conference.

Yeah.

And then we also had- The language is anything that brings public disrepute, embarrassment, or ridicule to Kansas State, which I guess could be...

How many in-conference wins do they have right now? They're not very good. One? Yeah. One That brings ridicule to Kansas State.

Well, we have the ultimate... The reason why this college basketball season is good, it's two parts. One is that there's 10 teams that you could make the argument are national title worthy teams. Maybe not 10, but eight, let's call it. The other part is just some of these teams are just picking off each other left and right in the funiest way. It's like Iowa State just... Kansas Kansas beats Arizona on Big Monday, which was an awesome game. Iowa State then loses to TCU on Tuesday. Then they play each other, and Iowa State kicks the shit out of Kansas. Big 12 has been madness. Arizona has now lost two in a row after starting the season undefeated. It's fun. I'm having fun. What did you learn about the bubble there, Max? You just did a little...

Right now, according to ESPN, Wisconsin is a should be in.

I mean, we have two of... You could make the argument Two of the best. Two of the best wins. We've beaten three top 10 teams, two of them on the road. Michigan's only loss. And then Vilnova?

Vilnova, Lock, according to ESPN.

Lock.

I'm not saying that, but they are.

Big East is down, huh?

Yeah, only three teams are. Three teams are locked. Zero teams should be in. Seton Hall has work to do, and that's it. Poor Pug.

I hope-Yeah, really poor Pug. Makes it for him. Yeah, really poor Pug.

He started off so hot.

They started off so hot. Because I was so bummed out there was no football today.

I saw Pug's tweet.

Yeah, I saw that, too, and it made me sad.

Yeah, really sad. Yeah, although it's good to have a little break.

It is.

It's good to take- If you told me next week was week one, I'd be in, but I needed one weekend.

Yeah, Absence makes the heart grow fun. Where's Miami of Ohio? Where are they ranked right now?

They are- 23rd, I believe. They're in the weird spot of being a Mac team where they should be okay, but it's going to be bullshit because if they trip up and don't win the conference tournament, it's just going to be bullshit. I'm already pretty mad about it. They're a fun team. I'm pretty mad about it.

Big Ben won't let that happen.

Yeah. So Big Ben, it turns out he might not be the best guy.

No, I don't want to hear that.

Why was that such a story? I mean, Joey Porter, he said something that we all know, and then it just got... The message got weirdly changed to like, Big Ben wasn't good. Big Ben was really good.

Big Ben was awesome.

He was really good at football.

Until the last, I'd say two, three seasons. Big Ben- He was incredible.

Is so much better of a football player than human being, and we all knew that. Yeah. And nothing changed. Yeah, I know. A lot of people are doing the big bend, got carried to a Super Bowl, his first Super Bowl. I'm pretty sure his- That's true.

His first Super Bowl, yes.

No, but I'm pretty sure he balled out in the games before. The actual Super Bowl, yes, but I'm pretty I'm not sure the games before that, he balled out. He was pretty damn good.

The game against the Seahawks, he did not play well. But he did have that game-saving tackle against the Colts. You remember that? Yeah.

He went seven touch downs, one interception in the three games leading up to the Super Bowl.

Yeah, that tackle that he had after that goal-line fumble, that was everything for the Seelers.

And then the- AFC Championship game, he's 21 for 29, 275 yards, two touch downs, zero interceptions.

Yeah. And the second Super Bowl against the Cardinals, incredible game. That was one of the best games ever. Yeah.

Big Ben, though, not a good guy.

Big Ben, we do need to have you stand up for Miami of Ohio, just in case things go off the rails. We need Big Ben, stand back, stand by.

Big Ben, definitely. So he went to this bull riding thing in Pittsburgh this weekend. He definitely went to it just to do a little pulse check, be like, People still love me, right? And they do in Pittsburgh.

Oh, yeah. And just like to talk.

I don't think it's a problem.

He probably did it just to talk to the other cowboys and be like, So what injuries do you have? Yeah, I had that. Yeah, I had that. Yeah, I had that one.

Oh, it seems pretty easy.

Yeah, I had that. He just wanted to swap war stories.

Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do we have any other stories before we do Who's Back of the Week? And then we'll get to Jameis. Oh, congrats, Hank, on the Four Aces.

Yeah.

Was that your Who's Back of the Week? It was. Shit. All right. So then congrats, Hank, on us not being mad about the Australia game because it might be on a Wednesday, and we're down for that. So they might go Wednesday, Thursday to start the NFL season.

If it's Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, College, Saturday, NFL Sunday, Monday, that would be awesome.

I don't think they're going to do Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Why not? I don't know. Why wouldn't they?

Yeah, they would. They already do Thursday, Friday. What's a little Wednesday? Why not?

I just think they'd swap the Friday to the Wednesday.

Wednesday night football is- Friday isn't the best for ratings.

I agree. I would love it.

It's better than zero.

How do you start the season without the champs?

That would piss me off.

No, but they can do They can do Thursday in Australia.

Right, but then is that also bullshit that Wednesday is for the Seahawks? Would you feel a little slighted?

No, that'd be great. You get an extra day of rest for the week, too.

True, but in terms of the pomp and circumstance of Wednesday night football?

No.

But no, here's the thing.

I'd feel a little slighted.

I think whichever team, it's going to be the Rams and the 49ers playing over in Australia, right? In Melbourne? That game has to be on Wednesday night. It has to because they're going to be playing it Thursday night, Australia time. It'll be on Wednesday. And then the flight back for those two teams is 16 hours. Yeah, we talked about this, how they were going to start the season with it. They're going to need to give them plenty of rest. I don't think that they're going to put the Seahawks on Wednesday and then move them to one day later in Australia.

I think this is guaranteed. Then that's bullshit for the Seahawks. They don't open the season.

Yeah.

Yeah, that would be bullshit. I think it's all... I could be proven very wrong, but I think the bears are going to put the bears Seahawks. Because now, if the Rams and 49ers are playing in Australia, it would make sense if it was Ram Seahawks. But we're the Seahawks schedule in Seattle, so I think we're going to do that.

Cowboys, maybe?

Just get ready for all the primetime games, which I do not want. Yeah, look up the Seahawks. I know the Cables game. I think the Patriots are on their schedule as well.

Super Bowl rematch?

Super Bowl rematch. We'd have to ask you about Sam Darnold.

I'm betting the Patriots because you guys ran out. That fourth quarter from Drake May was unreal. Just starting to heat up.

Well, no. Chiefs because Mahomes aren't going to be back. So, yeah, I think it's going to be the bears.

So it could It's going to be the Cowboys, the Chargers.

I don't think they'll do Super Bowl rematch because Super Bowl wasn't great.

The bears.

Wasn't like an instant classic.

Cowboys, Chargers, Bears. Those are my three picks.

You got to pick one.

I'll go Cowboys. I'm going to bet that they smashed the Cowboys button. They might. Although the Cowboys might use the Sunday Night Football. That's true. They love doing that. Cowboys, Giants, Sunday Night Football. They love doing that. They love that shit.

They love that shit. Here we are talking about football. It feels good. Okay, who's back in the week? Let's do who's back in the week, then we'll get to Jameis. Good Olympics talk. Maybe we'll come... How about everyone for Wednesday's show, let's all come with a fact on a certain sport, a specific sport from the Winter Olympics. Okay. You know what I'm saying? But we'll divide it on the group text, so there's no... But let's all come with maybe a little story about whatever sport you choose.

So no double-dipping.

No double-dipping. What are we doing? We're going to do a little homework. Wednesday show, everyone come with a little something about a sport, a Winter Olympics sport. You pick one, and you just dive in for a minute.

All right.

I mean, don't have to do a lot.

It has to be one that is currently still going. Yes.

Yeah, that's coming up. Let's say it's going to be on Wednesday or Thursday so that we can preview it.

Like a medal match.

Yeah, we're going to need a schedule to figure this out.

Yeah.

We can handle that.

That homework assignment almost crushed it.

No, no, no, no, no.

Just look at Jeff D. Lo's Twitter. He's got you.

I put in a bunch of bets before I went to Florida, and none of them have happened.

I love when that happens.

I was like, All right, I'll have some action.

I once did that when I had a bookie 15 years ago. I put a cricket game that was a year away. I thought I was betting it overnight to wake up to it. This sucks. Okay. Who's Back the Week? Brought to you by our friends at Twisted Tea. Twisted Tea is a refreshing hard ice tea made with real brewed tea and 5% alcohol. Twisted tea is the perfect drink to keep the good times going all day and all season long, whether you're hanging out at a friend's house, catching a game at the stadium or at the bar, or day drinking with friends. Twisted tea is there to turn your day a notch and make a good time, a great time. Grab a refreshing Twisted tea today. Hank, who's back of the week?

Who's back of the week is Anthony Kim and the Four Aces.

Yeah.

I didn't know he was on the Four Aces. Oh, Hank, he's-Impact free agent.

Yeah, Patrick Reid left very... Oh, this is tough. Yeah.

Hanks getting choked up with emotion for his beloved Four Aces. His Four Aces got him. Finally did it. Oh, man. Honestly, this is one of the coolest stories in history of sports. Why don't you take tomorrow off? Patrick Reid left.

Okay.

Two weeks ago, same time as right after Brooks. He's not going back to the PGA tour. He's trying to go a DP tour route. This has been happening to me every day.

The more I talk, my voice is going to-When did you lose your voice?

On Thursday.

That's a long time ago.

Friday, I didn't talk much. Then I started to talk a little bit, and then I lost it. Same with yesterday, same with today.

Come on, Hank. Should we slow clap for you?

This is Anthony Kim's first week as a 4-ace. Yeah.

Okay.

He's replacing Patrick Reid. So it's Dustin Johnson, Patrick Reid, and then the two Toms, the Tom Towers, Thomas Peters, Thomas Deachery, and Anthony Kim won. He beat John Rom, Bryson Shambo.

Yeah.

Wow.

And he had to grind his way back to even playing on the live tour, right?

Yeah. He got kicked off basically for not performing well enough. Then they have their version of Q-School where it's like 60 golfers, three guys. If you finish the top three, you get your card. He came in third just to keep his card. He was very close Coups. A couple of shots here, a couple of shots there. He's not even on live. Then he won this event.

Good for him.

All-time comeback story. Very cool.

All-time.

Huge for the Four Aces.

What is he coming back from?

Cocaine.

Okay.

And Achilles. And some injuries. And Achilles.

Achilles. Okay, but mostly the cocaine.

And being retired for 10 years.

Because of the Achilles injury.

Got it. Yeah.

Got it.

That's what an inspiration.

It is inspiring. I read an article on the way back about his past and when he quit golf and why he stopped and his substance abuse issues and then getting sober. He had a daughter. His daughter basically gave him a purpose in life.

Oh, interesting. He posted on it. So golf wasn't his purpose. His kid was.

Yeah, well, he had a dad. He had a tough childhood where his dad was... But he hated golf.

But kid over golf.

No. Having a kid made him want to golf more. Yeah.

No, That's a great point, Hank. The kid made him want to focus on life to improve his golf game to provide a better life for his own kid. Got it. Yeah. Yeah.

Very cool story.

Very cool perspective. It's interesting. People are asking, are the Four Aces better without Patrick Reid.

Yeah, I don't want to- And the other guy he used to be on.

Dustin Johnson. Or is he still on the Aces?

Dustin Johnson is the captain of the Four Aces. He's the Ace.

Okay, he's the Ace.

That's what he's talking about.

He's the Ace of Spades?

Wait, they're five aces?

No, there's four.

Anthony Kim, Tom powers.

Tom Peters.

No, I know, but it's Tom Towers.

Tom Towers. Tom Towers.

And Anthony Kim.

And Tom's teacher.

He's part of the Tom Towers. Two Toms, Dustin, Anthony.

Got it.

How many minutes do you think we've talked about just the four aces?

A lot.

It's got to be over 100.

Well, now that Brooks is gone, it's like, I was We were actually watching Live a lot this weekend because it was on at night. And Brooks not being in it has definitely-Yeah, staying up late. Ruined the luster. Now, it's on sports time, sports watching time. Right.

What's sports? Well, sports watching time never ends because we got international.

Yeah, it's night. Sports watching time.

And morning.

Yeah, but I like to watch sports at night.

Why in morning?

No, I'm done. Nfl.

I'm done. Oh, yeah, that's right.

You can tell that Hank recently. The Tom Towers, that's a new thing, a mnemonic device he came up with recently to try to remember.

I don't remember both Tom's. No, yeah, because one of my friends asked me and I forgot.

You're proud of the Tom Towers, though. I can tell.

I forgot one. We cannot have either of these If one of the Toms leaves the Four Eaces. Also, we need to find out-It's going to be a t-shirt of the Tom Towers.

I need to know how tall the Tom Towers are. Are they actually tall?

Dude, if one of the Tom's leaves the Four Eaces, Hank is going to be so fucked. 6'5, okay. That's a tower.

Oh, yeah.

Then the other is Thomas Dietre. Let's get him.

He better be tall.

Both from Belgium. 6'2, all right. Yeah, Tom Towers.

Peter Euland was on Four Eaces for life for me. Because I said that, and I was like, It's not your grandfather's 4 aces anymore.

This is Four Aces, but louder. Yeah.

Okay, PFT, your Who's Back of the Week?

My Who's Back of the Week is the NFL Union report cards, the NFLPA report cards. The judge ruled That the report cards were too mean, and they were being very disrespectful and unfair and nasty to Mr. Woody Johnson. So they're not allowed to put out the report cards this year, at least not through the media. But the upshot of this was through the arbitration and the deliberation, the guy in his decision ended up quoting directly from the upcoming 2025 NFL team report cards in his decision to not allow them to release the report cards. So we did get some of the report cards. Oh, even though they're not allowed to put the report cards out. Got it. Does that make sense? I don't even know if that makes sense, but that's how it happened. So Memes, you were upset because you thought that they were going to silence all the players talking about Woody Johnson. Not the case. We've got some Woody Johnson content for you if you'd like to hear.

How did the Jets do?

Okay, New York Jets. The Union said players complained that management responded to feedback from the prior team report card by making conditions worse, including cutting the food budget, not retaining a long time dietitian after poor food grades the prior year. The Union also graded owner Woody Johnson an F, the lowest owner rating in the league, 5. 58 out of 10, which, according to players, resulted from his perceived unwillingness to invest in facilities. Players cited perceived top leadership issues with some describing issues as top-down problems, reflecting ownership concerns. So Woody Johnson took all the stuff that he got made fun of for last year, and he responded by being like, Oh, yeah, you haven't begin to see how shitty I can get. I'm going to make it all worse. Okay. So at least you got some notification of Woody Johnson being a giant asshole out in the media anyways. Memes.

Feel good, memes?

You okay, memes?

No.

Woody Johnson just... He's got to go.

He's got to die.

He's got to die. He's got to.

Memes, I thought you I thought you'd be glad.

I mean, not really. Nothing's going to change.

But isn't this what you wanted? You wanted more people talking about this. He's in the Epstein files. You want people to talk about that.

Yeah, but nobody's talking about that. We are right now. They're only talking about Tisch.

National Sports Podcast.

We got to talk about it more. People are only reporting on Tisch from the Giants. Yeah. And they're only reporting about food for the Jets.

What else should they be reporting on?

He's in the files. Yeah. He's in them. Yeah. There was one email that was like, Jets just lost to the Dolphins. I don't mean to laugh, but it's so clear that Memes has gone through all the files. He's seen every file just to look. He's doing Control F for Woody Johnson. I think the funniest one was the email was like, Jets just lost to the Dolphins on Woody's birthday, and he's not happy right now. That's just how the decisions get made in the Jets. They're like, he'll just take the food away because they lost to the Dolphins.

Yeah. Somebody's just letting Jeff know about this.

Listen, it sucks because this is Jets, this is your team. But if I were as an owner of an NFL team, I don't know if I'd run it much differently. I think I'd probably do this shit like that. Yeah, you know what? We lost. Fuck you guys. We're not doing anything. Ice cream machine closed for the day. Yeah, when you put it that way, all they do is lose. So you got to take stuff away. Exactly. I think I would probably do shit like that or have my son decide the coaching decisions based off his Xbox season. Yeah, but Rick Johnson, to his credit, Devante Adams, good wide receiver. Fair? Yeah, very good.

It's a great decision. What about the other guys on Aaron Rodgers' wishlist? They're pretty good, too.

Yeah, but that's Aaron Rodgers. That's not Rick Johnson.

Whose idea was to get Aaron Rodgers?

That was probably Rick. That's probably Bob.

We'll go Bob with that one. We'll go Bob. Fuck you, Bob. Yeah, fuck you, Bob. We also have some stuff in this report from the Eagles. The Union highlighted that players are frustrated that mealtimes overlap with the organization's business staff, leading to crowding and limited seats and feel they should get first-class seats on team flights instead of the coaching staff. What do you think about that, Max?

I agree with that.

Why aren't-I don't understand why that-Coaches-Why is that a story?

Guess what? It's in your name, YouSitCoach.

I got a question. Pretty cut and dry. Why don't the team owners just have planes that are just all first class?

I thought that's how it went.

I don't think it does. That makes no sense to me, though. Have it make the whole plane out of first class.

You can't do that.

Why not?

There's no way they're going three deep.

No, they're not going three deep. I bet you they all get their own rows.

What's the difference between that and first class?

A big difference because of fucking If you put your seat back, you're fucked. You're still scrunched.

Nobody would ever put their seat back in coach and then lay across three seats.

There's no way that there's a scrunch. There's no way.

There's a huge difference between-We're looking at this like it's united from Chicago to New York. I think it is.

There's no way.

Yeah, I think it is.

There's no way. I think it depends on which team.

Eagles's team playing.

I think if you're doing well, like Robert Kraft has a nice jet.

Philadelphia- Real nice jet. Philadelphia eagles utilize American Airlines as their official charter partner for team travel, frequently using large aircraft like Boeing's triple sevens. Yeah. Yeah, they're just using He's not using regular planes. That's crazy to me. I don't understand how a NFL team- That does not look like a regular plane. What? Plane, they're expensive as fuck. Yeah, because it's got eagles. How much is a triple seven?

It's two deep all the way back.

I think I could probably get you a triple seven for... I'm just going to guess. 55 mil?

A triple seven is going to cost 450 mil.

That's bullshit. We got one for free from Qatar.

Pre-owned. You can get it for 15 mil.

Yeah, there you go. Of course, I'm not talking straight off the assembly line. Take me down to the Boneyard. I'll get you one for 10 mil.

The new variant is 440 mil.

Yeah, we're not getting a new- Make the whole plane first class for the boys. You're not getting a new plane for a football team. Those guys are just going to chew it up. Yeah, true.

Okay, who's back is Michael Jordan because he won the Daytona 500. No big deal. Okay, good job, Mike. And then he happened to know a young A young kid who is probably his friend's kid, and he grabbed his shirt a few times, and people are freaking out, grabbing his shirt. Max is sitting there watching it with his just disgusting allegations.

I mean, he's putting a finger up this kid's ass.

No, he's not. He is not. He's grabbing his shirt, Max, and it's probably a kid he knows. It's like you wouldn't- That's cool. No, but listen, if you have kids and you have friends who have kids, you wrestle with the kids, he's grabbing his shirt. You guys are being weirdos.

I understand the horseplay excuse. I don't know that... It seems like aggressive horseplay.

He's grabbing his shirt. And you don't think it matters that it's his friend's kids, a kid he knows? That definitely matters.

If it's a complete stranger, that's a different story.

No, that guy's son, he's grabbing his shirt. Also, this sucks for that kid that this video is now out there everywhere. I don't know. Mj touched him. What are the boys doing in here? It's way too early to be in here, boys. Way too early to be in here. Way too early to be in here. But they can be in here. They want to be in here, but it's way too early. No, this is like- We still got Zack to do Who's Back. Then we got to do ads, and we got to do Vacation Talk, but you can come in.

This is the worst thing to happen to this kid. It's bad that this video is everywhere. The kid that was on the Nervana album cover, he says That's the worst thing that's ever happened to him in his life. All the kids that hung out with Michael Jackson, that they even said nothing bad happened to them.

All this thing is bad stuff. All right, now we're getting crazy compared to Michael Jackson.

Michael Jackson was never convicted of anything.

This kid, his dad is probably a billionaire. He's going to be okay.

I'm just saying not a great day for that kid. All things considered, you would rather not have that video out of you as a kid that everyone will know.

I don't even know if the kid will know. He's like four. Okay. Max was like, Hey, did you see this? Mj's got his finger up his ass.

People were talking about it.

I watched it, not even close.

People were talking about it. It had to be talked about.

Well, we talked about it.

It's a bad look.

He's grabbing his shirt.

It's a bad look.

He's grabbing his shirt.

I don't think he's actually...

He's grabbing his shirt. He's trying to be- Grabbing his butt.

Wild Uncle Mike.

He's grabbing his shirt. All right, Zack.

My Hees bag of the Week this week. We're just going to be an update for you guys. We We talked Golden Auction a couple of weeks ago. You guys remember that? We're talking about PSA 10 Pokémon Illustrator cards. We got a final say.

You said that word way too fast. After the Golden Auction.

The PSA 10- There we go. Pikachu Illustrator card from our Wwe, Rester Logupal. We just had a final... The sale went down. How much? Thirteen million.

Holy fuck.

And he bought it for 5. 1 in 2022.

Did he scam a bunch of his fans?

I I think those might be different controversies. I think those are digital scams. That was the NFT situation.

Can he not sell ownership of this exact card?

Like the digital NFT ownership, I believe, but not the physical, tangible ownership.

Was was Logan Paul the one with the clip with braided? Yeah, very cool. That was the most choreographed, fakest clip ever. People were like, oh, my God, look at this. They have a flag football game in Saudi Arabia.

Yeah. Listen, I'm an athlete, okay?

Listen, I can't believe people actually thought that was a real conversation.

They were like, wow, Tom braided just pressed Logan Paul.

Yeah. All right, so he sold it for 12. 5 million.

Yeah, I think the auction went in a little bit over time for 13.

Who's buying this?

That's my biggest question is, where do you put this? Do you buy it to then go sell it in a couple more years and think you're going to get 36 million?

Yeah, I guess. I think you just buy knowing that you can scam a lot of people with this card.

With counterfeit ones?

No, you can run back the same scams thatOh, same playbook. That Logan Paul was running, and now you're making money every year on the old scams. Yeah.

Are you a Zack, are you a card collector?

I'm not a card collector. I enjoy doing the pack of rips. My brother's a card collector. I'll open the packs with him. I like the chase of it, but not the collecting aspect.

It is fun.

It is fun opening. The blind box is so much fun.

So much fun because it could be anything.

Anything.

Literally anything. It could be a Pokemon illustrator.

It could be the worst thing ever or generational wealth.

Yeah.

Okay, good job. Good job, Zack. Just a digital scam, so not a real scam.

Yeah, I think a lot of it was digitally scamming, not hard copy scams. Okay.

So it's not a big deal if it's a digital scam.

And it might have been, I think it's like blockchain scam. So it's like deregulated scam.

Got it. Okay.

I think that's still a scam, though.

Yeah, no, it is.

It doesn't make it any better. We're just clearing up the...

Yeah. But if you say digital before it's a NFT, it's fine. It's a digital scam. Okay, let's do a couple of ads, and we have Jameis Winston. Like I said, I teased it, but some news that will make everyone very happy with Jameis Winston coming up after a couple of ads.

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And now here is Jameis Winston. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very It's Jameis Winston here with us. We're taping this on Thursday before the Super Bowl. We're running it after the Super Bowl, but you're here with Madden. Let's start with that. Who's going to be on the cover and why should it be you? It should be you. I wish I did have the opportunity to be on the cover. First of all, I'm so happy and grateful to be with you two yet again. Every time we unite, we make masterpieces, and I'm grateful for that. I like the glasses, too. Thank you. Are those new? These are Metta's.

Oh, they are. Are you taping us right now?

I'm not taping you.

You can.

If you want, I'll tape you, you tape me.

Okay, thank you. Yeah, let's do it. It's a tape. Bang.

Put this in. Mine's dead. Oh, okay. I need my charger. But you still can record me. But thank you.

All right, so you're not going to be on the cover? You should be on the cover.

I would love to be on the cover, but I don't know who's going to be on the cover. This year, I feel like Jamir Gibbs was the most exciting player that I've seen with my two eyes. But outside of that, I'm not just going to say, Hey, put Stafford on the cover because he's in the MVP running. I feel like back in the day, the cover used to actually mean something.

Yeah, we got to get it. Yeah. So we got to get... I mean, Drake May would probably be if he wins a Super Bowl.

Jsm.

Jsm would be a good one because he'd been balling.

A guy you know, Camp Skatebu. Oh, my gosh.

Oh, already?

That'd be a fun-No, he's definitely going to be on the cover very soon.

But six games, they make the cover?

Right.

But it was an impactful six games.

It was the most impactful six game As ever. I want to play with Cam Skatebu as my running back.

He should definitely probably get a 99 just because the energy and violence that he played with. He is so dumb.

What was he like when you first met him? You're like, Oh, man, this cat's different.

Man, one thing about him and Jackson and Abdul, they were the most confident kids. And I say kids because they looked like freaking kids. Yeah, right. Did I ever meant in my life? They just walk into the NFL locker room. They're certain of themselves themselves. Kam is yelling at people already. He doesn't really care if you are a 20-year vet or if you're a rookie with him. I just remember him and Abdul called her about to get into a freaking fist fight because of draft status. Because Kam thought he should be drafted higher. And Abdul, he went word by Kam because he went drafted in his position. So it was a beautiful thing to see seeing the new wave of football with all the NIL. And I feel like the young athlete is being blessed so many early opportunities. But to have three rookies that are very good come in and be obsessed with football, I was taken away by that.

Yeah. And listen, I'm not joking when I say you should be on the cover, and I think you know exactly the moment you should be on the cover for, The Touchdown Against the Lions, which was... We got to find the clip in the gambling cave because we were losing our minds. Can you walk us through that play? It was the best touch out of the year. I'm going to say it right now.

Yes, it was the best play of the year. Nfl owners, you should definitely acknowledge that. But anyways, when the play was called, I looked over to the sideline, I was like, I've been waiting for this moment. So we called a double reverse pass, and I see the linebacker, he has his eyes on me, so he's playing really good. He's having great eye discipline. But as I get behind him, I throw my hand up because I'm like, Gunner, the ball should have been up by now, not knowing that he's extending the play back there. He throws the ball up. One thing about a quarterback position, you give your receiver a chance. Yes. A receiver has never caught a ball that's out of bounds, and he don't have a chance. So he gave me a chance. I came back to the ball. I turned around. I gave him a little du-du. You know what I'm saying? That little one, two. I put him in the dirt, and I finish with a nice finger roll.

Yeah, you were ready for that.

I was upset because the camera cut away from your celebration too soon on that one. Yeah.

It was something that was premeditated. I knew I was going to do that celebration. I practiced that celebration in the dinner room the night before. I got confirmation from my Detroit brothers, Devin Funches and nick Jones, that I could do this celebration because it was really a Detroit dance called the Boss Up. The walk was Motown. You know what I'm saying? Walking down the Soul Train. But the dance was called the boss up. So I was bossing up on the Detroit lines. It was great.

It was a beautiful moment. We loved it. And then afterwards, you're like, I'll play tight end if you want me to. I'll line up at tight end. I think a lot of guys would say that. I think you actually would line up at tight end.

Man, I have clips, training, running routes. This is not something that I'm just talking about. I'm obsessed with this game. I love what I do. And if I had to play tight in, I would, but I like playing quarterback.

Yeah, well, we need you to get back out there on the field. Who knows what the next couple of months is going to bring? I think that a lot of people are talking about you as potentially being a free agent again. Have you thought about that? Have you thought about what you would ideally like to do next year?

Yeah, start. That's ideally. But I'm locked in with the Giants for one more year on the contract. So that's exciting to go into a year primarily for family. My wife, my kids, understanding that Daddy gets to at least compete at a place that we're at. Because I think one of the most challenging things for any athlete that family is important to them is the moving and the uncertainty of what's next. One thing I'm concerned about is my abilities, but I am excited to be back with the New York football giants and serve that organization to my very best.

Have you talked to Coach Harbaugh yet?

Yeah. He's the man. He's elite, man. In the weight room at five o'clock in the morning with yoga pants on, lifting heavy. And I asked him, not really. He said they were yoga pants. They look like slacks, like chinos. I'm like, Coach, why are you working on chinos? He's like, Oh, they're yoga pants. I was like, okay.

He's a good culture builder. It feels like things are going to start turning in the right direction.

Well, he He is certain about his approach. One of my best friends, the past game coordinator for the Cleveland Browns, Danny Breier, will always rave about his intent in the meetings. He always had intent with what he was saying. He wasn't just coming from left field, trying to speak to the teammates. He's not a real ra-ra guy. Everything he did was calculated and intentional. And that's what we need for the football giants.

Big time.

I like it when you say football giants. I feel like we need to bring that back more. Chris Bermond used to always remind us they're New York football giants. You got to put some stank on it. How do you like living in New York?

I live in Jersey. Jersey? But I love being able to wake up. And we're right on the Hudson River. We got the city behind us, Hudson Yards. It is unbelievable. Me and my wife say it, it don't get old. Even with the snow coming down, like ice hills piled 20 feet in the freaking air. It's iconic. Me and my son, my We're climbing Mount Everest to get to the top of this freaking ice hill. And then I get into the facility and one of the local, I think our video guy, Karm, he asked me, Did you take any trashcan lids off? What am I going to do with the trashcan lids? You go sletting, you take your kids. And then I felt like a failure because I didn't know about trash can lids. But you can't know until you know. I take my kids sletting. So when the opportunity presents itself, next time, I'm going to be pushing my kids down the hill to sling. There you go. Yeah, but no, I just think the city I've always wanted to be a part of something that's more. And what New York provides the athlete and really anybody that's there, because it's probably the most diverse place in the world, is you really see the American dream when you're able to look at that skyline and you see...

Man, one of the funniest things I've ever seen. I'm going to my first Yankees game ever. We're staying in Harlem at the Renaissance Hotel, and I'm trying to do it right way because I'm like, Hey, we could stand in Harlem Renaissance. We're going to take the subway to the Bronx and watch the Yankees play my first game ever. Man, as we walk on the street, we walk to a little deli down the street, I see this Latino baby, six years old, on the phone walking in a full conversation. I got my four-year-old at the time who's taller than this six-year-old that's walking on the phone in the stroller because he sleep. I'm just like, This is New York City. This is New York. This is the American dream. This six-year-old Latina kid is already having Fortune 500 business calls on his track phone in the streets of Harlem. You know what I'm saying? I'm just like, How? Apollo Theater is right there, and I see this little Latino kid on the phone.

Oh, that's so good.

I'm just like, That is iconic.

Yeah, he's closing deals.

It is true. New York has got just characters and everything everywhere. It is a city of opportunity. You had what I would say is the greatest opportunity ever in that you got to have dinner with the Rizler. So tell us all about the dinner with the Rizler.

Man, it was the greatest rated G dinner that I ever had in my life.

Was there a moment where you're like, I'm having dinner with a seven-year-old? I don't even know how old the Rizler is anymore.

He's nine. Okay, he's nine. The moment was when I saw him, because the Riz has this aura about him where everyone knows who the Riz is. So as we're walking into the restaurant, I'm getting my coat check and everything, and you could see the host is like, she's laughing because she knows who the Riz is. I'm like, Hey, can I get my coat checked? It's freezing out here. And you're laughing at this little kid right here. So we're walking up to the restaurant and everybody wants to shake this guy's hand. And he's a little kid. So he knows how to handle himself around adults. But his presence is so grand, bro. I'm just like, I'm seeing having dinner with him. We're talking about caviar. I'm just like, Have you ever had caviar before? He's like, No, I never had it. And I was like, Well, it's fish eggs, right? We're talking about sushi. I was like, Do you like sushi? You know what I'm saying? He's like, I like sushi. So he had this meal where he tried the Japanese uni. And uni is acquired taste. You know what I'm saying? It looks like yellow paste, but you got to know what you're eating.

So he's like, Yeah, I love uni. I said, Do you know what uni is? He's like, Yeah, of course. And you see those chubby cheeks just looking like... He might know because I don't know what his palate tastes them. But we sitting there having a conversation. The uni comes out, and he's like, I love this. I'm just like, Do you really love this? He ate one bite, and he ate the risotto. He didn't eat donut. So I'm just like, You got me wasting money on a meal. So that's when I realized, Okay, I am with a kid. But The unique thing was my seven-year-old was right next to my seven-year-old and five-year-old. They were sharing jokes back and forth.

Yeah, they got to be big Ritzler fans.

It was unbelievable.

Did he at least reach for the check at the end of the meal? Did he pretend like, I got it?

I would not let him do that. You know what I'm saying? It's no way I'm going to let a nine-year-old reach over here. I got it.

Richland might have more money than all of us. He might. He could. That's definitely on the table.

But I was very grateful to meet his pop because in this world, when you have kids who work as hard as him in terms of have the fame, you see their parents pushing them and everything. They're trying to create all these moments. But his dad, Brian, was so chill, such a vibe. He was sharing the moments that they actually have at home. He was geeking out because Because he was from Staten Island and his love for the Giants, man. It was really cool just to see the child come out of his father and to see that connection that they had.

Is that the most star struck you've been since you've been in New York?

Had to be.

Big time business dinners.

It was unbelievable because I'm sitting next to this icon, and he's a quarter of the age I am. So I'm just like, what did I do wrong not to be able to be like this kid?

I wish I was on my grind when I was not like you.

I wasn't working like him.

The 401k for that, if he's putting stuff away every year, he's going to be a billionaire by the time he's 40 years old.

Bro, have you seen this Cribs episode?

No, I haven't seen that one.

Bro, he's freaking... I think He's seven in the video, and he has stuff in there. I'm just like, Who has this type of stuff? How's this kid got these iconic pieces?

I got an idea I want to throw at you because we're going to need your consent to be able to pull off this idea, but it's It's a long-running idea on our show. When we get into a football season, there's always a bunch of injuries that happen in the quarterback position. It sucks. It's part of the game. But then we get to week 10, and there's a Monday night game, and it's a backup quarterback, and it's like, All right, we don't really want to watch this guy. We've always said that Jameis Winston should just be all-time quarterback for any primetime game that doesn't have a good matchup. Do you think you could pull that off? Hey, Monday, it's like, Hey, Jameis, you got to go to Arizona. We're going to need you. They're playing Monday night football against the Cowboys. We need some Jameis. Could you do that?

Jacobi played an excellent game. He did, yeah. But yes. Okay. All right. Good. To playing in everything. Yeah, literally.

I feel like we can-Playing.

I get to get on the field? Yes. Sign me up. Yes.

Because it's like there are those bummer games, the standalone games later in the season. It's like, you know what this game needs? It needs more Jamies.

Thank you. Yeah.

I really appreciate it. It was you and Joe Flacko. We just have Jameis and Joe Flacko just going around the country, wherever you need to go, so that we can watch some fun football.

It would be electric.

Because you always give... The thing with you is that, and I love watching you play, especially this part of your career, where it's like, maybe you're not a starter every year, but when you get in, you always give your guys a chance, and you're always going to actually throw the ball downfield. Because what happens a lot with backup quarterbacks, they get in, it's a lot of five-yard passes, trying to be safe. You're giving your guys a shot every single play.

Well, the NFL receiver, they deserve a chance. We're not playing fearless. But this year was fun. It was very unique because of the dynamic that we had in our quarterback room with having a Super Bowl winning champ and having a first-round pick and having myself who threw for a gazillion yards. So starting off with Russ being a starter, man, literally, I just remember the day, the back of my hand, where I'm excited, just signed up for the New York Football Giants. Two weeks later, I see Russ, big smile, signed up with the I'm like, What? Russ? I already know they're going to draft a young kid. Now I got to go through him. And then Training Camp gets here. Dave gives him the position to see how Russ and Jackson were just being nurtured in this In this system where I'm just like, Man, me and Toma DeVito, who's with the Patriots, now I'm just like, Man, am I going to get enough reps? Because one, Russ is learning the offense. Jackson is a young rookie, so he's learning the offense. So it's not a lot of reps for everybody in Training Camp. It really was a very unique experience for me competing.

I remember reading Tom Brady's novel with his sports psychiatrist in Michigan, where Tom was talking about his opportunity at Michigan as the backup, how every practice rep, he was playing a game rep because he didn't know when was going to be his next opportunity. And then eventually, he ended up overtaking a star in position, next year, starting to lean them to win It was a pose ball, right? So I had to get into that mode where every freaking rep that I have, I don't care if I'm throwing a ball to Gunner O'Chef's Shee or some undrafted rookie from the Opaleika Mountains. Man, we're going to make something happen, and we're going to create excitement, and guys are going to want to love playing football when I'm out there on that field.

Yeah, and we still do. Every time we get out there, it is exciting to watch. I hope that you get another chance to start. I know that you definitely They have the belief in yourself, and I got the belief in you, and Big Cat has the belief in you that you can do it again. Have you got the sense from other GMs that there could be an opportunity, or would it have to be the right backup spot?

I think this role with the dream that Sam Donnell is selling right now with being connected with the right minds and being in a good system and being able to take advantage of his opportunity and showing it over and over again. I think that is helping so many of the quarterbacks that get deemed journeymen. It's really just making the most of your opportunity when it's presenting. You saw this year with... What's his name? Mac Jones. He got his shot to spin. He went out there and he did what was Required. So I know it's going to come around again, like busses, 15 minutes. It's going to come around and I'm going to make the most of it.

How many more years do you think you can play?

I would love to play 12 years, and that's just 12. Wait, 12 more years? 12 more years. 12 more years? I'm going to be on 12 this year.

You're going to play 24 years?

Yes. I love that.

Oh, my God. I was so nervous asking that question. You're going to be like, I got three more years. No, you got 12 more years? We're halfway?

In terms of my arm, I'm blessed. I'm really grateful that God gave me this arm in his mind. So I'm growing every year. It's constant growth and just the fun of being able to increase the people that's around you. And that's why the tough thing of this year in terms of our team was like, man, going to training camp, I had a feeling like this was going to be a great squad. Just the tenacity of our defense, how our offense with Malik Nabors and young Cam Skatebu, Tyrone Tracy doing this thing. We had a elite officer line, great O-line coach, Mike Kafka had to him, calling plate. I knew it was going to be good, but it was those fourth quarters, man. It was those four quarters where we didn't finish.

Sign me up for 12 more years, James. Thank you. That's awesome. We're just scratching the surface.

Start a petition now.

Yes, 12 more years.

We can say this is the end of act one.

We're just at halftime. It is.

Yeah. We are.

You got any adjustments that you're making at halftime?

The biggest adjustment is just more TV. You know what I'm saying? I'm probably going to have a few Broadway appearances. I'll probably have a rap album out. You know what I'm saying? It just depends. Some Christmas carols. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to team up with some AI, Frank Sinatra, just to get the brand up and moving.

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What was that like with Russ? Because I imagine it wasn't easy for him to get benched like that.

Yeah. With Russ, it was very challenging with him. Balancing, helping Jackson stay prepared and keeping a future Hall of Famer, Super Bowl-wanted champ uplifted every single day. I felt like it was a blessing in the skies, man, because I was able to share with Russ. Like, Russ, you've never been in this position before. You've never been in a position where you You felt like you didn't play like you wanted to, and you got benched. And the young quarterback is coming in and he's playing good. He's bringing excitement. So I'm here for that because I've seen that happen. I've been injured, and I've been having to watch freaking Andy Dawn lead the ham with the New Orleans Saints. I've seen it. I've had to have his back and support him because it's always about the team. And I think Russ's mentality of his leadership paid off tremendously because he know the importance of the team. And as a quarterback, we know we're the only person out there. So it's tough. It's tough to swallow that pride when you know that you're capable and you're able to still spin and Russ can still play. Don't get me wrong.

But he grew more this year because he had to be in that humble state than he did over all the other places. Because Denver, it was bad. It was bad out there in Denver. Pittsburgh, he led them to the playoffs. It was okay. But he stepped back on the scene. But this year was supposed to be like, he won his first Super in New York. He was supposed to be back. But God challenged him in a way that he's never been... He's probably been challenged before because people doubted him coming out of freaking college. I think it is igniting something within him to allow him to have the greatest comeback of his life, and I'm praying. I hope that he has that. But I just commend his leadership and his consistency of continuing to pour into Jackson, continuing to stay relevant and active, man. Russ was buying team dinner every Thursday. Every Thursday, he picking up the tab, he bringing in from Lou Nello's, feeding the whole building. So nothing fell off. He stayed consistent, and he was a great teammate.

And you're a great teammate. And any GM that's listening to this is like, if this is how Jameis acts when he's a third-strength quarterback and cares about his teammates in this way, imagine the Jameis you're going to get if he's your starter. Actually, it's probably going to be the same guy. I don't think that that would change anything, but it does show because a lot of guys, they're in that role, they would just check out a little bit and worry about their future. And you were dedicated to all the guys on your team. Can we refresh people on the time that you were starting in New Orleans, the season that you were putting up, the numbers you were putting up? I don't know if you know those off the top of your head, but can you describe how you felt?

I know I was leading the league in touchdowns. And I was leading the league in touchdown interception ratio, which everyone gives me heck about until this day. And we were five and two. Five and two. So We were on an up and up, but things happened.

But the stuff that you played through, I don't think people know.

Broke back. Broke back. A ruptured perineurium longus. People don't even know what that is.

I don't know what that is, but it sounds painful.

Most of that runs right down the side of your cab that wraps around and attached to your big toe. And quarterbacks know this. You do whatever. And I saw Drew Brees do this the year before. He did everything he could not to come off that field. He wrote in his book, in his memoir, about how Doug Flutti, his relationship with Doug Flutti. If Doug Flutti was hurt, he would never come off the field. But he was like, Man, I can't come off this field because the backup quarterback come in and freaking take my job. So just learning that, understanding that, Man, I got a freaking broke back. My plant leg, I can't freaking move. And then I had to fly to freaking London on a nine-hour flight with a freaking bone stimulator wrapped around my back and try to play.

What's a bone stimulator?

It's like a PMF machine that they give you.

I got one. We bought those pads, the PMF pads.

It's like a halo that you wrap around. Do those work? To try to heal your bone. I think. I mean, I don't know. Okay. I was in pain, though.

We bought them because... Pain everywhere. Tua bought it for his offensive lineman, and we were just like, Maybe they'll work.

No, this one was different. This was like a bone PMF. It looked like a back brace. Okay. Imagine me sending my Virgin Mobile.

It's a lot. I hope my bones are improving right now. Version Airlines.

Get these bones better. As a backup, this year, do you buy your offensive lineman a gift?

Yes. Where'd you get them? So I had a moment of gratitude for the offensive linemen because I got this Chromehearts hat. And the plan was, I know a young guy was going to get the hat because none of the OGs, office alignment, they're not going to care about a $1,200 hat. So one of our young rookies had got the hat. And my main thing was like, Are you grateful? Are you grateful for this hat? The hat couldn't fit his head. Everybody's walking around with freaking projectors, Prada bags, cardio shades. He's walking around with a Chromehearts hat. And he's looking at me like, James, you got me this hat? I can't even wear this hat. Jackson trying to try the hat on. He was like, Man, I hope I can get it. You can have my gift. So that's kudos Jackson. But I ended up giving him a nice Louis bag with some Louis shades. But all my office alignment got stakes. Like, snake root farms always look out for me, man, when it comes to the stakes. I got to get them. No punning. I got to get them some meat, man. I got to feed my whole life.

Yes, definitely. They can eat. What's going on in Florida State? Other than, is the fix as simple as just having your brother right there?

Yes. Them having a Winston on the roster is definitely going to be huge. But I tell you, with this new wave of football, athletes are more privileged than we were in the past. So being able to recruit an athlete that really loves football. And also their family wants their child to be a football player besides a millionaire or an entrepreneur or whatever, with all this money coming in. I think that's very important. So the challenge It's not really the kids, it's the parents and the guardians to keep them focused on why they're even getting this blessing of money. But in terms of the four of the eight, man, I believe they're hit it on the right track. I went down for my brother's official visit, spent some time, just saw how they were doing everything. I want to say, just got their own football facility.

That's crazy.

October 2025, one of the most iconic football programs I was working out in the gym. I was working in the gym with the swimmers, bro. That's crazy. And swimmers were in there early. I'm doing a set, and then the swimming girls, they're doing a set in the same gym. And I go to Florida State. I'm sharing. And look, I know. Sorry, guys, if I sound spoil, because HBCUs don't have nothing. They don't even got a trainer. But anyway, I'm sharing treatment tables with the tennis team. I'm just like, look, okay, look, I know your injury is just as important as our injury. But it's football season.

Yeah, and also football is the main money driver.

It is, right? And it was tough being on the baseball. Base, we had a weight room. We had everything accessible to us on the baseball team. But football, we're sharing things. I love the fact that Dope Campbell is connected to the school of hospitality at Florida State. So you see so many different faces coming in. It's connected to the testing center and everything. So there's a lot of people in there. Yeah, student athletes, but we come in there to play football. And if you come in to play football, how can you attract these top players when they're walking in the facility and you don't even have something that caters to them.

And they go to other places, like Clemset has a slide in a barbershop.

So we overcame that hump in terms of the eye factor. But in terms of our head coach, in terms of our program, I still believe Florida State has that traditional program program. But however, we have to put behind the past, the Championship that we had, whether that season that they left us out of the playouts. We have to put that behind us and find a way to move forward and start winning football games because that's all that matters.

Are you talking to your brother a lot? Are you advising him? Or is he like, I want to do my own thing. I want to be my own man?

So his entire high school career, middle school, I wanted him to have the same experience that I had with my dad, just one-on-one coaching, growing, not having multiple voices in his ear. But when he signed with Florida State, I had to be there. I had to be there on his official visit. I had to be there with his official signing because now I feel like I'm passing the torch to him, and I cannot not be there for him. Honestly, it's relatively very new, but I know the ins and outs of the campus. And we finally have a similarity in terms of, yeah, we love football, but now he's at that age where his receptiveness to another voice because my dad is elite. We're blessed to have our dad in our life. But his receptiveness to me now at this age is way more receptive than where he was when he was younger because he just like, Man, my brother in the lead. I'm trying to get there. I'm going to put my head down. I'm working my butt off. My dad, he created one of them, so he created me. So I'm going to have this opportunity.

So I'm excited to even have a deeper relationship with him. Because talking to him because talking to him I'm not going to Florida State, man, it had me in tears. Because I'm just like, Man, Joe P, I was a part of building this. And now you're going to go and you're going there for you. You're not going there for me. You're not going You're doing a scholarship because I did this stuff. You're not getting a scholarship because you earned this. So don't go out there and try to separate yourself from me. Go in and be the best Winston that you possibly can be and keep doing what God gave you and your talents.

And a lot's changed since he went school there. Some of this stuff is not against the rules anymore now that he's there. So he won't run any of those problems.

No, he won't. He going to get sponsorships.

Yeah, that's the difference. It's like he's going to get paid.

I feel like it is It's a saying in the Bible about everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial. So yes, all these partnerships and stuff, you can do it. It's there. It's out. Everyone can get it. But you still have to be looking for the strategic beneficial partnerships that you can get. And that's what he's looking for. So he probably won't have no crab leg sponsorship in his future. But you can talk with me because I got some crab leg QR codes that I could be passing out. I love that. That is one of those, I'm going to put air quotes on scandals.

It's that and the Ohio State free tattoo stuff that we look back on it, we were We're just so stupid as a society for treating those like they were the biggest issues that we had for young football players coming up through the college system.

Man, I feel like the scrutiny that amateur athletes, we were high school players. The scrutiny that we get is huge because of the platform that we have in terms of everyone's watching us. You saw the excitement, freaking Indiana winning the college football national Championship this year. Just the excitement of Miami being able to play in their home field. Those viewers obviously bring a lot of eyes. But at the end of the day, these are still amateur athletes. These are kids. I was a kid in college. All of us, the people that's on Twitter that's tweeting like, This guy sucks. He's a bad person. You're talking about a kid. So I always encourage, especially men, to have a point of view of, How are you when you were 18 years old?

Yeah, big time.

I was an idiot.

What were you doing? What were you doing? Listen, moron.

Still a moron. Then the height of the social media wave of cameras. I remember me and my boy Joe, and we used to walk into Coliseum, and I promise you, it was just like we were at a freaking glow party. Everybody had their phone out, lying us up, recording as I'm walking through. I remember my walkout song for a baseball was, I'll be feeling like the man when I walk through. And I felt like the man when I was walking through, everybody got their phone out, light me up. I'm just like, Man, can I just not come and party in peace? You can't. We had to start having house parties, man. It was definitely fun.

Is there anybody that's playing college ball right now that you watch and you say... Maybe it doesn't remind you of you, but the way that we watch you play, we get excited. Is there a player that you watch and you're like, I love watching that guy play?

I did enjoy watching Fernando Mendoza compete this year because I was looking. I was like, Man, because I know Florida State, we beat Kyle last year, and he was a quarterback. I was like, Man, this kid continues to show up every single week. And how's he doing it with Indiana? Because in my mind, I'm just like, This It's still Indiana. When they beat Ohio State, I was like, this is- It took a long time for people.

The Rose Bowl was like, I was like, Indiana is going to kill Alabama. But a lot of people were like, it's Alabama, it's Indiana. It's going to be Alabama.

Indiana looked like Alabama.

Yes, they absolutely dominated.

If they didn't have I. U on the side of it, if you were watching those teams, you were like, Oh, that's Alabama, and that's Indiana. That's just the program that Coach Signetti has developed, and the players have bought in. When you look at Indiana, those players look like they love football. All of them are 23 years old with big old beards, and they are there for football. Yeah.

By the way, I found the clip. Let's watch it. I hope We don't say anything stupid in this, but this is you scoring the countdown. This is us every Sunday just sitting there. Oh, Jameis.

Oh, Jameis.

Oh, my God.

That play was epic. Jameis.

That was fucking awesome.

Thank you.

That was awesome.

That was huge.

That was huge.

Threw that guy off more.

Oh, man.

Jamez is the best.

Look how dead this play was. Yeah, that was how we were reacting in the game. We love you. We love watching you on Sundays. Yeah, man. That's I mean, there wasn't a Giants fan in that cave, and we all were just like, I think we might have put you on main TV for that one. Yeah.

I appreciate it. The funny thing about that game, so behind me, you could hear the fans heckling. Hey, Jameis, throw us one. Throw us one. I know it's coming. And after that play, even the Lynes fans, they were like, Good job, Jameis.

You're W.

Jameis. But you to get the opposing team to stop Hayden enjoying you. That was exciting.

That's just good football. If you heard all the different voices in that room that were all yelling Jameis. I counted six or seven different guys that I heard. We all root for different teams. When we're watching football on Sundays, we're all yelling at each other. It's the most combative viewing experience that you could have. And you brought that room together to all cheer for you because that's how much we care for you. Thank you. We need to see Jameis starting in the NFL.

We absolutely need to. I guarantee you that if we had If that clip was 20 minutes long, 20 minutes later, there was probably just Stray like, Oh, Jameis, that was so sick. Remember that, Jameis? Still saying it, yeah, over and over.

That was the outcome. I'm going to give a fan's memories. I'm going to give everybody memories I'm out down there feel. But the memory that I want is to be that Super Bowl winning quarterback.

That's what I want for you, too. I love it. All right, I got one last question. Roback. Com, which, by the way, we were in an ad together. Roback. Com, promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback. Com, promo code take. I assume you should be a 99 in Madden, but who do you think... Let's go from this. A defensive player that's giving you fits that you're like, That guy should be 99.

Well, from watching, man, Will Anderson had an amazing year. That's a good one. He had a defensive end. He did an incredible job. Chris and Gonzales, man, he was locked down this year. Nobody was catching. When you watched the ALC Championship game, you're like, Oh, my goodness. They catching a ball on him? And then I don't know where he gets that pick at the end of the game. You're like, See, can't about to mess with him. One person that a lot of people are not going to talk about, but I feel like he's low-key, one of the best defensive players in the league is Devon Witherspoon. He is the heart and soul of that Seattle Seahaw's defense. He is coordinating everything back there. He doesn't miss tackles. He makes plays on the ball. He is a true football player out there, man, and he definitely deserves a 99 on defense.

Do you have any rules? I know that sometimes quarterbacks are like, I'm not throwing it at Spoon. I'm not going to challenge him. Is there anybody-No. Is there any quarterback that's ever made you say, I'm taking away. I'm not going to look that way?

Not ever in my life. Never.

A good throw beats great coverage, right?

It does. But I feel like that's the competitive side. Obviously, as your You're planning for a week. You're looking at who are we going to be attacking for the majority of the game. But when that time comes, you have to be your best against their best. That's football. So I ain't ducking no rig, though. I ain't running away from nobody.

It's almost like a challenge. Spoon's good, but what if I beat him?

I'm going to attack him. I ain't getting him on his heels.

All right. Well, Jameis, always awesome to have you on. We remain your biggest fans. Can't wait for you to get another shot at starting and Super Bowl. I mean, listen, I'll say this. When you do get to the Super Bowl as a starting quarterback, you have to come on the show that week if that's okay.

No, we would do a Zoom call because I'm going to be... Or you all can come to the hotel.

No, we'll be at the Super Bowl. We'll be at the Super Bowl. We'll come wherever you want.

But you all come to the hotel.

Yeah, no problem. We want you locked in. I'll be there. But we need a Super Bowl week.

You all will get anything from me. Okay.

All right. Yeah. Maybe some seats.

You all get anything.

Okay. I sign Jersey afterwards?

Party after the Super Bowl.

Not my sign Jersey, which we make another one. Okay, all right. But if that one's going with me.

Party after? We party with you after? Definitely party. Okay. All right.

Yeah, that's good.

You all are in.

Okay, done. James, you're the best, man.

No, thank you.

Yala, appreciate you.

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Okay, let's wrap up with some vacation talk. By the way, I just refreshed Twitter while PFT was doing a couple of ads, and it's got to be Katie's burners. The way he's walking around with his phone, just panicking. It's so cool. That's a guy who's... We've all been on that side of it.

He's leaning into it?

I don't know, man. We've all been on that side of it where the internet's coming for you and you're just pacing around, looking at your phone. You think he's leaning into it or you think... He looks pretty concerned when he's... He had his phone out on the court when guys were taking warmups.

He's just scrolling. Katie is scrolling. What would he be Fully into that life.

I don't know. Refreshing everyone talking about it, getting text messages from people.

This is a big part of Kevin Durant.

Yeah, this one. Look at that. He's just walking around on his phone, Hank. Look at that. The guys are shooting around.

That's what leaning into it.

Yeah, I guess. He knows that he's going to...

Listen, there's no- But his face doesn't look like he's leaning into it, but yeah.

No relax, champ. No relax when I'm on Twitter. I'm on 10 until the second I close the app, you relax.

He did I went to go after Shams the other night for being on his phone during the game.

Yeah.

And he was on it all night, tonight.

Kevin Durant is never going to log off, and it's a fool's errand to try to even get him to try. So just let the man cook.

Like I said, Hank, he might be... There's a chance he's on his third burner, roasting Kevin Durant's second burner as a burner. He's like, There's free jokes to get off. Okay, let's wrap up the show. How was everyone's vacation? Hank, you want to start?

Yeah, I will start. It was awesome. I was on a golf trip. Seven of my childhood friends, guys I've known for 20 years, I showed up on empty from the Super Bowl week, had a blast, got to play golf. I saw our friend Ricky Elliott.

Yes.

Played around golf with him. I mean, he's the best. One of the most enjoyable rounds of golf I've played. Played some sick courses. Had a great time. Lost my voice. It was great

No. I just need one good night's sleep and I'll be good-ish.

Yeah, you'll be fine.

I'll be on the road back. Yeah.

Your voice will be good by Tuesday's show.

All my friends, they have Monday off and they're like, Oh, yeah. Get home for... I got home at 11: 30. When I left the next morning, I was like 10. You get sunburn? You're Take tomorrow off to recover. Take tomorrow off.

Take a personal day.

What's the weather like tomorrow?

It's beautiful. It's going to be like 60 degrees. 60 here in Chicago.

Beautiful.

I will not be golfing tomorrow.

Pft, how was your vacation?

My vacation was great. Thank you for asking. I had a blast. I got some nice sun. I saw a bunch of whales. Nice. Whales jumping out of the water and shit. Just real relaxed. I basically woke up every morning, started drinking beers and margaritas at about 10: 00 AM, and then sat by a or by a beach, and then went back to sleep. And then I had to go and fuck it all up. Maybe the most relaxing vacation ever. On Friday, I just decided after breakfast, and I've been thinking about... I brought it up to you one time, Big Cat a couple of months ago. I just quit pouches, decided, Fuck nicotine pouches. I'm out on nicotine pouches. I'm out on all nicotine because I was in that zone where I was feeling my pockets all the time. I couldn't go anywhere without knowing that I had some on me. I just said, You know what? Fuck it. I'm just not going to have another one after my lunch today. And then I just rode that. And so now I'm like, What would that be? Two days? Yeah, about two full days, two and a half days off.

It's not easy.

I'm going to be more in on Lucy's to make up for it.

Have enough for me. Yeah, I got you. So my resolution is that I'm just going to smoke cigarettes.

That's it. Okay. You've done this a million times, the vape to cigarettes.

I did that one time. Okay. That's how I quit vaping. I quit vaping.

Hey, it's resetting the plate clock right now.

I did it one time. You say it's more. And I can tell you exactly when it was. I quit vaping by smoking cigarettes. Now I'm quitting all nicotine by only smoking... The only time I'm allowed to have nicotine is if I'm smoking an actual cigarette.

You quit dip to vape and then vape to cigarettes?

I'll give you the entire... How it worked out. I quit dip to vape. I quit vape by smoking cigarettes. I quit smoking cigarettes by nicotine pouches, and then I stayed on nicotine pouches. Got it. And now I just nonstop. I usually fall asleep with one end. Got it. So I'm like, I'm out. I'm just going to go cold turkey. Except for the cigarettes. So I'm going cold turkey. I haven't smoked a cigarette yet, but I'm saying- It's coming. I will smoke a cigarette, and that will be my release. But right now, I'm Definitely, I'm in the throes of nicotine withdrawal, which you want to see some scary shit. You look it up online and you're like, people are telling me it's going to last for three, four weeks.

No.

All this stuff. You're fine. I'm just fine. You're smoking cigarettes. I haven't smoked a cigarette yet. I'm telling you, I'm allowed to smoke a cigarette if I want one. Got it. But I don't want one.

Or vape.

No, I can't vape. Okay. Can't vape, can't dip, none of that. But an occasional Marble red from time to time. It's not going to kill anybody. No. Yeah, it is like the headache, jaw ache portion right now. It's not easy.

You'll get through it. You're built different. You're built different. How's the booth doing? How's everyone's vacation?

I had one day of vacation.

Yeah, because you went to get ready for your wedding.

Yeah, I just did wedding planning. I was there for four days, and I think I did three days of wedding planning, and then one day. I really did vacation well the one day that I got, though. Nice. So that was nice.

By the way, Max, if it makes you feel a little bit better, I've secured multiple pieces of your bachelor party, and it's going to We're going to do a PMT Max bachelor party in Vegas. I've gotten the suite in the rooms and a suite at the Sphere. It's going to be sick.

I'm excited.

I'm going to get some golf tea times. It's going to be fun, Max. It's going to be fun. It's going to be a lot of fun.

I'm excited. I'm excited for the boys. Bosco. The crew is so funny.

Right now, I have over-invited knowing that people will say no. I just threw an invite to Kittle when I saw him last week. He's like, I'm in. I was like, great. I think my exact words were to Kittle. I was like, Just bring all the boys. Like, Macafre,. He's like, Yeah, I'm in. The invites right now are Rosillo, Jerry O'Neill, Rico Bosco, Rone. I think Jerry O'Neill and Roan are your strongest yeses.

I think Jerry O'Neill is my strongest.

Jerry O'Neill already said that he was clearing his hole. Yes.

Jerry O'Neill. Out of non-barstool employees, Jerry O'Neill will be the only one.

Jerry O'Neill will probably get there a day early.

But you're telling me that Jerry O'Neill, who's He's not allowed to watch a full game of football, is going to take multiple days.

He's going to be there.

I hope so. I hope you're right.

Did he say no? You're calling him out?

Remember, he was going to come to this office for the last week of fancy football?

He had to go to South Africa.

He'll have some bullshit. Or his wife will have some bullshit.

You're going at him right now.

What's this? I like this.

What?

He had a tweet.

He tweets to me every day.

He had a Tootsie tweet.

He had a Tootsie tweet. I missed Jerry so much.

You guys act like he doesn't...

Yeah, no, you're right. He antagonizes. Patris went toe to toe with Seahawks and lost. Tiff went toe to toe, to toe, to toe, and Hennie's I finally won. Thank you for showing the Tootsies, Tiffany. All right, so he's not going to make it? No. Zack, you have a good vacation?

I did tons of quality time with the family. Beers with the boys was a good time.

Hell, yes. Yeah, I did. I'd set no alarm. I drank all day, and then I had four straight days of ice cream Sundays.

Oh, you got to do... I do vacation gelato. It's like every night you got to do gelato. I did.

The last night, I was on a Sunday streak, and they didn't have it on the menu. I asked him, I was like, Can you do anything for me? He's like, I got you.

I was talking to PFT. I was like, I actually ate pretty well. When you're on an island, you just have a ton of fish. You go to nice restaurants and you just eat healthy things. Then he was like, How many Pina coladas did you have. And I was like, Well, that is…

Yeah, it's different. I had Ceviche for lunch. I had a nice yogurt parfait for breakfast. And then I didn't really eat so much at dinner because I'd been out in the sun drinking all day and only had a small steak. But then you think back, Oh, yeah. I went beer, margarita, beer, margarita, beer, margarita for about 11 hours today. Yeah. Listen, it's worth it.

I also almost ended up in Cayman Island Jail, which would have been awesome for the pot. Awesome. Going into the Cayman Islands. I think I got... Can you get racially profiled for being a chill-ass dude?

Because I think that's what happened to me. Yeah, I get that in the reports a lot.

Yeah. The guy going through customs just went deep into my bag, and I had the double whammy of him first asking, he was like, Do you smoke weed? And I was like, Yeah. I'm not a loser, dude. And then he's like, It's very illegal in the Cayman Islands. And then he asked me what I do, and I was like, Podcaster. At that moment, it clicked in my head. I was like, I could be in some deep shit right here. That combo is not good.

Yeah, you don't want to say podcaster to a foreign agent. They don't really understand or respect the profession.

No. Getting the deep into the bag search is scary just because you're like, I don't even know. When you have a backpack that you just carry around, you don't know what's actually in it half the time. I had one of those moments like, I don't know what's in this. Well, it's just find out together, dude.

I found a couple of gummies in my backpack, but no one searches your shit for bringing stuff into Mexico. So I was fine. What I did when I was- They searched your shit going into Cayman Islands.

I had no idea. When I went, held up my pill bottle that had maybe some gummies in it. And if he had opened it, I could have been in jail, which would have been a hilarious story.

When I went to Qatar, I bought new luggage before that trip just for that exact reason. Because I was like, That seems like a country where you might just die in jail if you got caught. So I've carried a lot of stuff in my bags over the years, so let's take a clean one. Yeah.

It did feel like entrapment, though, for him to be like, Do you smoke weed? And I was like, Yeah, dude, of course I do. He's like, Do you know it's very illegal?

Fuck.

That was not fair.

Did you know it's actually not that cool?

Yeah. What the hell? Imagine if I said no, and then he laughed in my face. He was like, You don't smoke at all? Loser. You're looking for the Cayman Islands underneath Cuba. Yeah, I had no idea where it was either. I was sitting in the front seat of... They drive on the wrong side of the road. Always fucked you up when you sit in the front seat.

They got to find Cuba first.

Max, you seriously can't find Cuba? Cuba is massive.

I see it. It's right there. It says Cayman Islands.

Yeah, but waking up with no alarm is the best. I haven't done that in a very, very long time.

I had an alarm every day.

Also, pet a shitload of sting rays. I still got it. Went to a stingray where all the boats. Basically, the most touristy thing you can do, we're All the boats are just anchored and they're just feeding the sting rays. There's sting rays just everywhere. Petting them left and right. Memes, you didn't go anywhere. I did nothing. It was the best. I love that for you. I actually love that for you.

You went on a couple of walks, though.

I went on so many walks. Shane, you went to Hawaii?

What's up?

You went to Hawaii?

Yes, sir.

And you brought back gifts? I did. All right. So what did you bring back?

I got a little something for everybody. Love it. First I don't know if Hank's wearing it right now. I got him a whale tail necklace.

Nice.

I'll just go in order here for what I pick up. I got Colton. I asked Colton and the others, what they like. I got Colton to spam stickers from a local artist.

Okay.

For-stickers? Yep, from a farmer's market. His name's Beachie_Kawaii.

All right. No free shoutouts. We'll bleep that. She's That's really nice.

I got Zack. He liked to collect playing cards. I got them two different types of cards. One's an actual deck of cards. One I thought was a deck of cards. It's Just like a Hawaii card game. It's just pictures of Hawaii.

That's sick.

That's basically going. Bolt up.

I got Max, a passion fruit wasabi dressing.

I I love that. He randomly texted me the other day and was like, Do you like jelly or dressing? I was like, This sounds like a bit of a game that you were playing with your girlfriend. You drew a card of text your boss, a thing where you can be like, Can you jelly this dick down your mouth?

That's a good thing to say your boss.

I just said, I refuse to answer this question.

Instead, he used, Are you the only person who got food?

This is salad dressing.

I got Jack cookies. Oh, okay. Some chocolate chip.

His reasoning was, he was like, I could see you eating salad more than I could see you eating jam.

Well, I've just seen him eat salad more than I've seen him eat toast with jelly. That's good point. I got PFT, the necklace that he's wearing right now as well. I got them a pretty sweet shirt.

Yeah, the shirt. You said it was the- A necklace and a shirt. You said the most colorful one they had. Yeah.

They were selling $8 shirts. I was like, I'm just going to pick out the most colorful one there is. Colorful shirt. It's awesome. I got Big Cat. Can I run this in to you?

Yeah, please do.

I got a necklace.

And a shirt? What's that shirt that you're wearing right now?

Just a necklace.

Pft has been wearing anal beads this whole show.

These are not anal beads, dude.

All right, I'm opening this.

All right. These are Beatle nuts.

Oh, it's a hook like Moana. Maui. Maui's hook.

Love that.

That's great.

Maui's hook, huh, Shane?

Maui's hook, Shane.

For Moana.

And boys.

Fucking love it. Yes, I love Moana. To the Pope? Yeah, it's going up. Speaking of Pope. Where the fuck is my-We're having the Pope on?

We're having a Pope game next year.

Oh, yeah. Villanova, Notre Dame.

Guys, I got you guys a present.

That's, by the way, the lottery ball machine that sounds like a lawn mower.

I got the boys a present in Mexico.

Okay.

So in Mexican pharmacies, they sell Torridol, right? Yes. I got the boys some Torridol. I don't know if it's actually street legal to have back in the United States. Don't care. He brought it back. We've only got four capsules.

What is Mims saying? What is Mims saying? What is Mims saying? He's saying no to Max. Max, he's saying no to Max. Wait, is it four capsules? Is it one shot?

No, four servings. Oh, each? Yeah. So What we're going to have to do here is we're going to save these, and whoever the guy's on the podcast to have the first four bad injuries. We need to determine whether or not it's a Toradol-worthy injury.

I think we should do one episode where we all take Toradol, and the listeners have to figure out if it was a Toradol episode.

That's also not a bad idea.

We'll just randomly do a Toradol episode. We're not going to tell you, and you just got to be like, Yeah, that was Toradol. Then if it's such a good episode, we just have to become addicted to it.

But then I was thinking, what if we do that, something like that, we take it recreationally, and then the day after, we both get kidney stones. We're like, Fuck, I really wish we had the Toradol.

True. I think we should do Blind Toradol.

You think we should do a Toradol episode?

You should save it.

Actually, we should save it for after the bachelor party. For the bachelor party.

Someone's going to need this. If I know something about this podcast. Yeah.

Maybe for the bachelor party when we play golf that Sunday, we're going to need it.

But I feel like There's four of these. We need people to sign. We have to agree. Hank can't be like, Oh, I have a sore throat. I might as well take the tortle.

It needs to be your fault. I know what turtle does.

It makes you feel good. Yeah.

You tell me if I need it.

Okay. You need it right now. Put it in his neck right now.

You aren't Dr. Hank. Hank, you want one right now?

No.

No, he won't sleep. He can't accept that. He'd be wired.

Anyways, you can just buy this stuff in Mexico. It rocks. Yeah.

Okay. Good show, boys. Great to be back. Let's do numbers.

56.

One.

23. For MJ grabbing that kid's shirt that he knows well. 29. Big dump.

I'm going to go. I'm going to go.

87. 88.

86.

That scared me. 93.

I did get Memes coffee.

Oh, you got Memes coffee? Yeah. Thank You're welcome. Thank you, Shane. Thank you, Shane.

Memes, what anal beads do you use?

I don't know. It was pretty thick.

It used to be a giant anal beads.

47. 37. Anyone? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone? 37.

Anyone? Danny Woodhead.

Anyone? You have one more? No, I like that none of us have. It's going to be... No, I like it. I like it.

Happy birthday to Jerry O'Connell.

Oh, it's his birthday today?

On Tuesday.

Okay.

There's not going to be a show on Tuesday. Happy birthday, Jerry. Happy birthday, Jerry O'Connell. Happy birthday, Jerry. Hey, Jerry, we'll see you in just a little bit for Max's bachelor party.

Hank, you want to say happy birthday? No. It's Shane's birthday, too, apparently. Shane, your birthday's today.

Yeah, Sunday.

Shane, happy birthday. What the fuck, Shane?

It's today, today? Yeah.

Oh, happy birthday, dude. Thanks, bro. Happy birthday. Hey, Shane.

Shane, thanks for the gift on your birthday.

I got you some.

Guys don't celebrate each other's birthday. That's what we don't do. We don't do that as men.

I say you got your decades. That's it.

Yeah, absolutely. Happy birthday, Shane.

Thanks, guys.

That's on The birthday guy, not realizing that. Yeah, it's your fault. That's all BFD's fault. That's his department.

That's my fault. That's the birthday guy.

You're doing birthdays from two days from now.

That's the birthday guy.

And Shane's in right there.

I wrote down this Jerry O'Connor one a month ago. I was like, I don't want to forget the Jerry O'Connor one. I forgot about my guy Shane. Damn. My bad, Shane.

No, it's all good. Understandable.

That's why you're a great guy.

Hope you like those beads.

I do love these beads. You ask your chairman. They smell funny. Love you guys.