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What a combine week.
Studios.
What a week. What a just news breaking left and right at this combine.
We have great interview with Kevin Stefanski and Adam Schefter. PFT, you stayed in Indianapolis an extra night. Did you glean any information? Did you get, who'd you go to? I went to dinner with what you do.
Yeah, I mean, I just use my reservation. I talked to a number of league circles and sources. I did go to the steakhouse. I went up there. I said, yes, we have a reservation for cats. I believe it's a party of up to eight, but we have fewer than that. And they looked at me and they said, sir, we don't have a reservation for cats. But it's all good because I ended up getting a reservation there on my own.
Okay.
From a good friend of the pod now, Cotter Daly, an indie car driver who was sitting there just having dinner. He said, what's up? He came up to me, goes, hey, my name is Connor Daly. I'm good friends with oldie and one of your guestbookers, Jordan Berry. Nice. I was like, those are two great names to drop.
The best.
So had dinner with them. Rossini joined for a little bit. My good friend JP Finley from DC stopped by. So it was a good dinner.
That's weird. It says reservation completed.
Yeah, they said, sir, we don't have a reservation.
Someone went there.
Someone took your, Your resi.
Someone took my resi. He says reservation completed February 25th, which was Wednesday night. Huh. Okay.
I'll say that.
I didn't lose any points on Open Table.
I'll say this. Connor Daly, he is now the official IndyCar driver part of my take.
Love that.
He's the man and all of his enemies are our enemies now.
So who else did you, did you bump in anyone important? Did you talk to, who'd you go to dinner with?
I just rubbed some elbows. Well, I sat down with, with Connor. And his friend and then Rossini and JP Finley from DC stopped by. So yeah, there's really not a lot going on. Again, really, the big story was all about arm length. I just heard people talk about arm length as it pertains to Bane now. He's the new arm length king and they're comparing him to Aaron Donald, maybe not so favorably to Aaron Donald. But it's like if you're a defensive lineman, how much does arm length really matter?
Right.
Unless you're going up against somebody Who's got short arms of their own on offense.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't, it didn't feel like there was a ton, a ton of like new news this week other than Robert Salah saying he might be, he might be assaulted in his sleep.
I don't know if you saw that,
but he was asked, how many kids do you have?
He said eight.
And the reporter asked, still going. He said, she gets me when I'm sleeping.
Okay.
So I don't know what that's about. But that was interesting, kind of.
Just like kind of having a terrorist that lives in your house.
Yeah. And then the other one was, I totally forgot this, but Derek Carr is still, that's a weird one. He's just, that's a jet.
Yeah. He's a name that people just kind of throw out there and they're like, hey, you remember this guy? He could still play.
Matt Memes, Jet? I'd take him at this point. Yeah. Wait, we got Ruben Bane's arm length?
We do, yeah. The arm length is, well, his hand is nine and an eighth inch.
Okay.
And he's got 30 and 7/8 of an inch arm length.
Is that small, short?
It's two inches shorter than Aaron Donald. Oh, yeah.
I think he's the third shortest in NFL history. History.
In history, but they- Since 1999. 1999, sorry, apologies. But he's still a beast is the thing. I was talking about offensive line play the other day with our good friend Sam Schwartzstein and how arm length doesn't always dictate everything. If you have a guy that's got short arms that's playing tackle, it's not the end of the world unless maybe you also have a quarterback with tiny hands, in which case it's like synergy factors.
Right.
Where if the guy with short arms can't block the guy and then the guy with tiny hands gets hit, more likely to fumble.
That's true. Yeah. That's a fact.
How tall are your arms?
How tall are my arms? I don't know.
How long are your arms?
I don't know. When we did the measurement, I was one of like only two people. Frank the tank had the best wingspan.
Yeah.
Wingspan ratio. But I had a positive wingspan ratio, which means I would guess like five, nine, five.
Are you thinking about drafting PFT?
I was just curious.
What position?
I guess kicker.
Yeah. So you don't even really need arms.
I mean, if we had to draft
him, but how tall are your arms?
That sounded a little bit like you don't believe in PFT as a kicker.
I don't believe in PFT in anything.
How tall are your arms?
Taller than yours. Longer than yours. I got a good wingspan, big hands.
Good.
By the way, we had a good, so the rest of us drove back on Wednesday afternoon night. I regret to report Hank slept through the entire windmill portion of the drive. Just didn't see any of the windmills.
That's bad. Obstacle. Those are your enemies, Hank, and he was out. I asked him to drop on you.
I asked him a question. We were talking in the car. It was me, Katie, and Hank. So Hank was sitting behind me, so I asked him a question and we were talking about something. And then maybe like 20 minutes later, I was like, Hank, look, the windmills. And Che was just like, dude, he's been asleep for like 19 minutes. Like, he basically answered my question and then just boom, powered down.
So I do remember being like, like, I'm asleep. And I'd be like, I'm not asleep.
Yeah, he yelled at me because there was this one stretch of the drive where it looked like we were driving into a windmill. So I wanted my boy to see. Oh, yeah. This is sick. We're driving into a windmill. I was like, oh, no, Hank's asleep. He's just angry. I'm not asleep. I'm not asleep, Dad. Swear to God.
Hank just got bodied by the windmill. So you think you got asleep. You got to keep an eye open around those things. Yeah, I did do something incredible this morning. I checked out of a hotel.
Nice.
I checked out. I was just I got off the elevator. I walked past the desk and I thought to myself, there's nobody in line. There's a guy that's like watching me walk past him. So go, hey, room 901, check it out. And the guy's like, thank you.
Oh, nice.
So it took about three seconds. Checked out of the hotel room. I feel like I did my good deed for the day.
That's huge.
I mean, credit to Big Cat. He does. You guys both have sick cars now, but Big Cat's got heated seats in the back. Yeah, that shit puts me right, right out.
Yeah. Finally got the sick car, sick cars tag from Hank, which felt good. We also continued our second year, second annual tradition. With an hour of the drive left, we did Third Eye Blind self-titled no skips.
That's good.
And it was awesome. Stephen Shay and I just singing every single song. It's great, great vibes. It's really good, great vibes. So yeah, it was good, good, good combine week.
Max Uber, Zach home.
You did?
Oh, no, that was when we were still at the combine. We had to go for a drive. It was just me and Zach and Zach decided to go. Exactly uber style of there was an open seat.
He went back.
He went back passenger seat.
Damn.
We were loading the trunk so my brain just went back to road trip mode. I thought I was supposed to get seat like get slotted in the spot.
Yeah.
Yeah, you could have been a front seat guy. You're big enough.
I got short legs. It's almost it would be like we
were going from one destination to another where it was just the two of us.
But like the front seat guy is it's I think status is one. Like, PFT sits in my front seat when we drive somewhere. And then, biggest guy too, like Kadic sat in the front seat. I think that's what you have to do. If I quick check of like status than size. No, but I think if it's like,
if someone's getting in the car first, they just kind of get it.
Status doesn't really, I always look at it.
Status only applies if you're all getting in at the same time.
Yeah, and also if I'm getting in the car at the same time, like if Max is on the same ride or if Kadic or somebody tall, I'll be like, yeah, I'll sit in the back. It doesn't make sense for me to sit shotgun.
Yeah, it was good, but it was a good trip.
Great trip. Oh, and also, so at dinner, we were just chilling and a friend of the program, Daniel Ricardo, called Connor Daly during the dinner.
Oh, hell yeah.
And he said to give his best to Big Cat and also to Glasses McAdams.
Oh, nice.
I guess what he calls me.
Nice.
That's a pretty good nickname, I think. If you say it in Australian accent, I'm sure it sounds great.
Very cool.
Lisa's McAdams.
Boys. How are we feeling? We're mere hours away from the stream starting. So how are we feeling overall? The stream is starting 8 a.m. on our YouTube, Central Time, Zach and Max in the in the office. How are we feeling?
I feel great. I'm excited. I think it's going to be fun.
The
do you have 36 hours planned?
Yeah.
Are you guys going to be doing all the things together? Like, is this a partnership?
Well, I'm only there for 18.
So in those 18 hours, your partners and.
Yeah. Yes, we're. We're doing a lot of partners, then.
Okay.
What about if we come in? Are we partners?
Everyone's going to be involved.
Yeah. Okay. PFCI are gonna get tattoos at some point, which I don't think will be. You guys will. I don't want. Us getting tattoos is probably boring. Maybe it's just us getting tattoos in the background.
That's probably what it'll be.
Which I think is better. But yeah, we're gonna, because we're getting, I think, what is it, Sunday or Saturday, is the official 10-year anniversary of Pardon My Take, the first recording of Pardon My Takes. I'm gonna get Vanny Woodhead on my arm.
The Vanniversary.
Yeah, I'm excited.
I'll get the back tire.
Yeah, Hank, again, no chance.
I've had a tattoo of part of my take long before you guys.
Right, but you don't anymore. But any chance to maybe make this whole relationship official?
I'll think about it.
We'll see.
We'll see when he gets here. I don't know. I've gotten a tattoo removed and I don't really want to get another one.
Okay.
Why would you get one removed?
Because I got it on my inner thigh and it was of a dead goldfish, not an alive goldfish. And I got it so that I could wear shorts and it covered it up.
What about, like, then the short shorts
trend came back in and all of a sudden I was wearing shorts and had a half dead goldfish poking out. And then I would have to explain to, like, people, like, what is that on your leg? And I just got sick of it, so I got it removed.
Yeah, I'm saying, why would you have to get another one removed, though? Like, this time?
I don't know.
I didn't think I was gonna have to get the first one removed.
Maybe this time you just don't get a corpse on your body.
Should we maybe get, like, do you want to maybe get us, like, a necklace or something we could all wear or friendship bracelet?
What?
To the 10 year anniversary.
What's the, what's the, what are you supposed to get for 10 year anniversary?
That's a you guys question.
Silver 25, I think.
So you want us to get you something? All right, let me see. Anniversary gifts. There's it wood. And you're like one that's like wood.
Might be wood.
Yeah, year by year. Let's figure this out.
Get your subscription to roman.com.
okay. Wood anniversary. Wood tin aluminum.
Oh, okay. Get us some tin, some beer.
Why don't we get some beer?
I'll get a lighthouse. I'll get a small lighthouse.
You're gonna get a lighthouse tattoo? Somewhere on my body. Let's go. That's meaningful. I love that.
What are you gonna do, PFT?
We're gonna get the back tire of Annie Woodhead.
Yeah, it's gonna be sick.
Maybe the first line of Free Bird if there's enough time.
Yeah, no, I think I'm gonna get some lyrics too. I'm gonna get, I'm gonna end up with, I think I just like, I like having tattoos.
I don't know.
I'm gonna end up with a full sleeve.
I don't know if I'll ever end up with a full sleeve, but I'm probably gonna end up with about five or six.
I'm thinking about doing a plaid half sleeve at some point. That'd be awesome.
That'd be cool. Okay, so stream gonna be set? Tattoos set? Anything else?
Clerical work?
Anything else we gotta be ready for for the stream? Get excited. It's gonna be awesome. We'll pop in every now and then.
The part of my Annie Posa has been made.
Love that.
Love that.
Zach, are you doing any-- are you planning any pre-sleep?
I'm thinking good night rest this evening so we can go in full charge batteries tomorrow.
Yeah.
Zach's also going to be able to sleep while I'm still there. He's going to sleep.
Okay.
And we're going to get him all set up in the booth.
I would like to test out if we could do, if I could make a request, I would like to test out Zach telling Zach a specific time to wake up and let's just see. We'll give it, you know, obviously we'll eventually wake him up so he can't sleep the whole time. But let's just say he falls asleep at 2:00 a.m. And be like, Zach, you got to get up at six and just see if his alarm clock, body alarm clock, is even close.
So don't use the alarm clock.
Yeah, we were thinking about bringing the bomb so that people could see.
Yeah, I think you do the bot. So let's say it's two to six, right? I think you set the bomb for seven and see if Zach can somehow get up on his own in that six to seven range. Just see.
So you want my body to wake up at six, but the alarm to go off at seven.
Right.
Right. Yeah. Like just just test it out. Just give you a specific time and and we could have people in the chat be like guessing to see if they're close. Like give us your exact time prediction for when Zach's going to wake up between six and seven. You know he's going to get up at seven. But let's see if he can get up at you know we'll say six and it's like people guess 610 612 you know whatever.
You want some insider info.
Yeah.
My body has no chance of no alarm.
Wake up.
I'll keep things honest.
What if you go to bed at like nine though?
That'll be a terrible stream.
That'd be bad timing.
He is going to bed at nine.
He's going to bed at 9:00 p.m.
because I'm leaving at 2:00 a.m. oh,
so he's got to wake up at, so he's going to go bed at nine. First of all, there's no way you're going to bed at nine. Knowing you.
No, I don't think there's a shot I fall asleep at nine o'clock, but we're going to head to pillow at nine.
All right, so we'll say one o'clock. You have to wake up and then the bomb will be set for two. So we're going to try to get your body to wake you up at one naturally.
Yeah, we'll do 130. We'll give them 30 minutes.
Yeah, we'll give you extra 30 minutes.
Fun fact about the actually less than the first episode of part of my take one week before I was in Latvia.
Oh, yeah.
What's the actual date that it was posted? Is it March 1st?
I have a promo for March 2nd.
I think it might have been posted March 1st.
We were in the airport March 1st leaving Austin.
So then we recorded February 29th.
Yeah, but I think it got posted March 2nd.
Got it. Okay, so that's the official post date of the first episode. One podcast.
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Okay, National Sports Podcast. I briefly retired from sports this morning last night. I briefly retired from sports.
What is that?
Well, first of all, fuck Kevin Warren, fuck TV executives for making the West Coast teams join the Big Ten. I stayed up till midnight watching the Badgers lose a game they should never have lost to Oregon. And I went to bed, but when I say I went to bed angry, I went to bed furious. I was actually furious. That they had lost that game. And the whole time, I'm thinking to myself, what are you doing, dude? You have a great life. You have three wonderful kids. You have a great wife. You. You. You're happy, you're healthy, all these things. You're a 41 year old grown man, and you're laying in bed angry about a game that took place on the West Coast, like. Figure it out. So I retired. I retired in my head.
You had a bad loss.
And I woke up in the morning and I was still retired. I woke up, you know the thing where it's like, hey, I got to take some time away from the game.
You slept on it?
Yeah, I slept on it. Woke up still retired. I unretired around like 8:45 this morning. But it was just, it was a debacle. I was even, I have like a group text with all my, my, like best friends from college. And some of them are like, You know, some of them watch every game, some of them don't. One of the ones that doesn't watch every game texted, oh, I didn't like the start of the game was like, oh, I didn't realize Oregon's this bad. And then I'm pretty sure he just went to sleep right away. So then he woke up to about 20 texts from me being like, fuck you, dude, why'd you say that you jinxed us?
That's actually a great life hack to just fall asleep when your team takes a lead.
Yeah.
And as far as you know, when you go to bed, you won.
But it's just so in Max, you're going through a similar thing where this is the time of year where it's, it's, It's pathetic when you have a college basketball team in the tournament, on the bubble, wherever it may be, it's pathetic the amount of energy I spend like pouring over brackets, pouring over net rankings, resumes. It's so fucking stupid. I gotta find a hobby. I gotta do something else, but I'm actually on retired, so I'm not gonna do anything else. But like I spent all all week being like, oh man, if they can win out, we'll be like, maybe a five seed, maybe a four seed. Now it's like, oh, now we're six, maybe a seven and eight. Max, you're going through the same thing right now with Villanova.
Villanova and Wisconsin are the exact opposite teams. In that Villanova beats every single team that they should beat. You can't beat a good team. And then you guys lose bad games but have the best wins in the country.
Yeah.
So it's very frustrating. It's very frustrating for me when I get really excited for a big game and it's like, this is when we're finally going to win. And then we lose. So that gets frustrating. But like, I don't have the highs that you have, but I don't have any of the, the lows, like the,
the not being able to sleep and being angry. Yeah, but so Villanova is getting fucked because they basically are just going through the exact same thing where last week, UConn lost the Creighton. Then they had a very classic bounce back game against Villanova on Saturday. This week, if you watch the St. John's UConn game on, on Wednesday night, St. John's was maybe the worst team I've ever seen in the second half. It was terrible.
I think they made, I think they made two field goals in the second half. That might be an exaggeration, but I,
I think they had seven points with five and a half minutes left.
That's what I think it was like up until this point, they, they, for like 16 minutes, they'd made two baskets.
And, and Rick Patino actually, like, he gave a hint to it in the fact that he, did you see the tweet he had earlier in the day? Where he's like, we had breakfast as a team with the chaplain and all this stuff and everyone was on their phones. The most bad vibes tweet ever. And I thought maybe he was doing it as like a misdirection. No, he was spot on. Yeah, here it is. Just finished breakfast in Hartford with the team, 13 players, five coaches, a special priest, all looking at their phones, no conversing next to discuss discussion coming with my wonderful group.
Is that a shot at the priest?
Yeah, it sounds like he was on there too.
Yeah.
What if the priest was just doing like candy crush? There's not the priest was on TikTok. Priest was keeping up with clubcular.
A special priest.
Special priest.
So is this, it's not the normal team priest. Substitute priest.
But yeah, this is the time of year. If you're, if you're a fan of college basketball, if you have a specific team and you are anywhere in that five to bubble, every game just feels so demoralizing if you lose and so great if you win. It's just it's just hard to I mean that we had what was the other oh Alabama by the way is a cheat code if you want to get in on it that's just betting they're overs they just never stopped missing this has been like oh two weeks now they were over under for the first half was 45 and a half points last night they scored 69 in the first half in the first half in Florida I'm going to keep banging the drum for Florida Florida just goes Florida was in it with Texas it was a tie game at like 61 then you looked up and they're up by 15.
Yeah, I'm all in right now. The Cougars, the Jayhawks. And I think I might hit the Huskies too.
I hit the Huskies.
I might Hit the Huskies.
I hit the Huskies. Yukon's offense is scary to be able to trust in a. In a single elimination tournament, but their defense is awesome. Here's the stat. St. John scored 14 points in the second half. They made two total field goals in the second half and did not hit a single shot for the last 1728 of the game. UConn was up 4126 at halftime. They could have dribbled out the shot clock every possession and still won the game 4140. That's insane.
It's Ryan Hammer.
I think Ryan Hammer's awesome.
Yeah, he's a bit.
Yeah, no, he's great.
It's also crazy that this is, this is the exact same problem that St. John's had last year.
Yeah.
It's like they don't have anybody that can make a shot. Yeah. And Pitino. We're just running back. We're just going to do the same thing. Expect a better result.
Can I give you another team to just kind of just little tickler file if you want to if you want to look in that I think this would be a very fun tournament storyline if this happens. Arkansas has been playing some really good basketball.
Yeah.
Really good basketball.
Got one of the best players in the country.
They lost that game in double overtime to Alabama where they basically ran out of guys. Since, you know, outside that one, they've won five of six. Now the SEC is a little down this year, but Cal, Cal in the final four would be great. It would be great.
It would be fantastic.
Great. So yeah, college basketball is fun. Another, unless you, unless your team loses at midnight, fuck Kevin Warren.
Another national sports podcast. Congratulations, memes. I think the Jets fleece the Titans. What did you guys do?
I think it's a win-win.
Win-win.
Win plus for the Jets. I'll say win plus.
Win plus. What's a win plus?
So they traded for Tavon Dre Sweat. He has two years left on his contract.
Jermaine Johnson only had one year left on his contract. That's the plus. Got it.
And that's the reason why you traded
Jermaine Johnson because he was on a, he was on the last year of his rookie deal. You weren't going to offer him, so
you might as well get something for him. Got it. Did you guys just like a chess piece? They're also having a mini fire sale right now.
A mini fire sale.
A quick little mini fire sale. Mini. Did you guys see the very mean question that the reporter asked Connor McDavid?
No, but I have seen some speculation that maybe Austin Matthews is not happy playing in Canada anymore.
Yeah. Well, it's funny watching these guys go back to their.
Yeah. Well, hey, Austin, we'll take you if you want to win. If you don't want your manager all up in your videos.
Mm-.
Come to the United States.
Brady could Chuck was funny. We were just like, yeah, it's like, I, you know, they hated me. I was the villain, but now I'm back. I'm going to do just pretending. I don't know if it was him specifically who said to close the borders, but it might have.
Yeah.
I love Brady could Chuck. This was the question. Can you go back? Can you get the question in this? This is a question that Connor McDavid was faced with when he got back to the Oilers.
Let's see.
All right, play it.
A hard question, but you know, Stanley Cups found Gretzky and Crosby and those guys. A hard question, but you know, Stanley Cups found Gretzky and Crosby and those
guys and gold medals and found it
and put yourself in position and it's not finding you.
Did you think it would be this hard?
That's a nice question.
Thank you.
Yeah, it hasn't found you yet.
It hasn't found you. Did you think it would be this hard to win?
Do you think it's looking for you? Are you doing everything you can to help it find you?
Brutal question.
You had a tag on, you got your GPS turned on, Connor. Yeah, that's a terrible, terrible question.
Yeah.
I'm just, I'm glad that I'm getting my boy Tom Wilson back away from the bad influence that That thug Sidney Crosby and he'll get back to playing good clean hockey instead of doing that that just absolute trash stuff that he was doing on on the Canadian team.
It's got to be a little awkward going back if you have teammates that you just went against. I saw there was a reporter for the Sharks posted a picture from 2010 after Canada beat the US and it was all the it was like Joe Thornton and a bunch of guys who had just won the gold medal for Canada and it was like all the sharks taking a picture with their medals and they made Joe Pavelski take a picture with the silver. It was like five gold medals and then him standing there with the silver.
Sean's just as bright.
It's fucking brutal. Brutal.
I hope a Stanley Cup finds him at some point.
Yeah, I hope he like bumps into one.
Yeah, just happens.
Ryan Whitney, we're rooting for you, dude. We got your back, man. Ryan Whitney, we got your back. He deserves something. I do think we're getting to the point where I actually would be happy for Connor McDavid because it has been so much heartbreak.
I would too.
He's lost the Cup two years in a row and lost the gold medal and has two MVPs to show from it.
I would love to see him with the Stanley Cup. I think it'd be even better if it was for a different team, though. I think that, That would really piss Whitney off the most.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Last thing I had, unless anyone else has anything else, did you guys see DeAndre Ayton? Because, you know, he needs motivation to play basketball. This is what you, it sounds like
what you would do for your kid.
Yeah. So DeAndre Ayton, the story goes that the Lakers training staff has wrapped his water bottle in tape and they write DA's Crunk Juice. Drink this to unleash the beast. So they're basically tricking him into drinking water and also tricking him to being like, hey, this will get you to actually try.
Is that true? Is that real or did you get scented?
I did. I.
This feels like it could be a scent.
I don't know. If I got scented, I'm going to.
I hope it's real.
Let's see.
For the record, I.
No, that's a real reporter. That's a real reporter. No, that's a. Yeah, Dave McMenamin's a very real reporter.
DA's Crunk Juice.
DA's Crunk Juice.
Drink this on the beach.
He also, that's so funny.
He kind of looks like he's like 50 years old too.
All right, I'm going to look, I'm going to make sure. Yeah, this, this was a, this was a real report from Dave McBenjamin. I love that. They also, did you see the Lakers hired Tony Bennett?
I did see that as a consultant. I don't know how he's going to consult because it looks like the Lakers might be broken right now.
Yeah.
So it's kind of a, a, Unless it's for next year, like what are you doing the off season to rebuild the team? I don't think he's going to fix anything right now because LeBron and Luka are just, they don't play well together. Yeah, they're both doing pretty good when the other guy is not on the court. There's just one ball though.
This is so funny that this is actually, yeah, the Lakers have stoked that ego too. Rob Pelinka, team president, basketball operations, general manager, commission, a black t-shirt with a gold screen print depicting half of a lion's face and half of Aeton's face that he presented to the 27 year old. Members of the training staff wrap Ayton's water bottle and athletic tape and write DA's crunk juice drink this to unleash the beast. So they're just, I love it. They're at the point where they just have to do, it's almost like college football gimmicks to try to get him to play basketball.
Here's the hydration chain, DeAndre.
Yeah.
You drink some water, you get to wear the necklace.
We're very close to having to have DeAndre Ayton show up in a blue collar, actual blue collar. They might actually put a blue collar around, The Jersey mm- like hey, man,
we really need you the bucks did that for a little bit They yeah, you can do the the name on the shirt like you work in mechanics, but you could physically clock in and clock out didn't Didn't tips do that? Tips did that yeah, like an actual time.
No, that was Jim Boylan. Okay, Jim Boylan had an actual time.
Yeah punch in punch out like a fucking give out the lunch pail award you can you can do this all LA you can you can handle this for the rest of the season. It's just not gonna work for you Oh, man, there's another.
I just had to think about Jim.
Growth plates.
That was his big thing. Big thing. Growth plates.
There's another golf story that maybe we want to discuss. Bryson and LA Golf.
What happened?
They broke up.
Wait, LA Golf is.
It was run by the same guy,
like a equipment company.
Yeah, got it.
It was run by the guy who
was not a custom.
I thought it was a live team.
No, you know how he has like all his custom like 3D printed Yeah, yeah. Shafts and all that weird shit.
Yeah. So it's run by the same guy that does those bats, the custom bats from Louisiana.
Okay.
What are they called, Hank?
The Mizuno's.
Yeah. So I know that guy. I like that guy.
So Bryson, this is hilarious. Bryson tried to take over the company. So he was, he was, he had like a partnership with his 2% ownership. 2% ownership. And then he said that he was going to walk away from the deal unless he got 51%. So his business, Bryson's business consultant coached him to try to get 51% of the company. Okay. That he had a 2% deal with. And the other guy said, Fuck you. And they just broke up. So now Bryson doesn't have any merch. Now his merch is gonna be trashed for a little bit until it's in gear.
It's a garment.
So like, like clubs, clubs, everything. Yeah, that's tough.
So he just came in and just said, I want the company.
The article said that he hired, I think it was from the interview, is from the perspective of the owner, the LA golf owner, was like, yeah, he hired this new agent or representative or whatever, who was like super Hollywood and like a finance guy that just came in and was like, we want 51%. And he was like, no.
Yeah.
Yeah. So it was, it's a consultant that Bryson got in and he tried to get the 51% and then the guy that runs the back company said, I don't think he realized that he's dealing with redneck. There's no path for that. They played chicken and now we're gonna have to part ways.
I love that.
Yep.
Love that.
Love it. I'm team redneck in this.
Yes, big time. By the way, Brady Chuck confirmed did not say close to the Northern Porter. Yeah, he did a interview. I just wanted to make sure I got that right.
Okay.
Yeah.
Good, good.
Someone else did. Who cares? Who cares? Stanley? Who cares? But yeah, this is great that Bryson, so he got in a battle with the Redneck that he just couldn't win.
Couldn't win. You can't win a battle with a Redneck.
No.
Good for that guy.
Rednecks will walk away.
Stand up to him.
What the fuck?
Why would you, come on, man. Bryson, don't be a dick. Oh, wait, he is.
Yeah, that's great.
Don't start being that.
Good, we kind of need him to be a bad boy again.
A bad boy, just a bad guy.
Yeah, we need him to be the doofus again.
It is fun when he's a dick. Dick, what's the big, is there a golf tournament this weekend? Small one. Coggs, Brooks is in it.
Okay, big one. And Max.
Max, yeah.
We got to get it going.
I bet on Max this weekend. Come on, Max. We believe in you.
What is it?
Cognizant, right?
I think there's like four people that played in last week's tournament in this tournament.
Okay.
Which means it's kind of like, because last week was a signature event.
Let's just get it. Let's get the boys in shape. Yeah. Let's get the boys going. Okay, let's get to our interviews. We got great interviews. Kevin Stefanski and then Adam Schefter. Before we do that, a quick word from our friends at Twisted Tea. We love Twisted Tea. Well, listen, I didn't, I didn't love the Oregon Wisconsin game or any part of it, but I would have loved if I had some Twisted Teas. I should have had some Twisted Teas last night. Would have been less angry. Twisted Tea is the best. It's a refreshing hard iced tea made with real brewed tea and 5% alcohol. Twisted Tea is the perfect drink to keep the good times going all day and all season long. Whether you're hanging out at a friend's house, catching a game at the stadium or at the bar or day drinking with friends, Twisted Tea is there to turn your day up a notch and make a good time, a great time. Grab a refreshing Twisted Tea today. We love the original. We love the half and half, the peach. They're all great. It's Twisted Tea. It's almost, it's where it's getting there.
I think it's gonna be 60 degrees in Chicago on Friday. It's twisted T season, big time. We're also brought to you by our friends at Chevy. Football season might be over, but you know how it goes. The minute the big games end, we're already talking about what's next. Free agency, the draft, who's getting paid, who's grinding. Because for football guys, there is no off season. That's exactly why they roll with the Chevy Silverado. Silverado is a truck that shows up every time. Built to haul, tow and take a beating. But smart where it counts with modern tech that makes life easier. Big screens, available camera views that help with the Towing and parking and a cabin that feels right, whether you're road tripping, heading to practice or loading up for the weekend. During the season, it's the MVP of the tailgate. After the season, it turns into your training camp truck, hauling gear, tackling home projects and doing the work that never stops because the grind doesn't take breaks and neither does Silverado. Check out the current offers and build your own Chevy Silverado@chevy.com. okay, here he is. Atlanta Falcons head coach Kevin Stefanski. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest, recurring guest.
He's just in a different place now. It's Atlanta Falcons head coach Kevin Stefanski. Coach, great to see you. First question, you were unemployed for 12 days.
Was it 12?
Yeah, 12, I counted.
Yeah, I was on the road quite a bit. I was in and out of buildings, talking to different people, but yeah, it felt longer than 12. Yeah, yeah.
But I mean, 12 was pretty quick. You were a hot commodity. That had to feel good.
You know, it was cool, honestly, just getting in other buildings and talking to other people, like sitting down in Baltimore with Eric Decosta, with Ozzie Newsome, like great people, going down to Miami meeting with those guys, Tennessee, obviously with Atlanta. They're good people throughout this league. And to be able to be, I zoomed with Tom Brady and the Raiders. The fun part for me was just getting to talk shop with other teams. Because there's good people everywhere.
Did you think that for a moment, maybe I just won't coach next year?
Oh yeah, without a doubt. Right when everything went down, I talked to my agent. I'm like, listen, I'm ready if an opportunity comes up. I'm also ready to sit out if it's not the right fit. I could go be an offensive coordinator if that's what comes down the line. I was totally open to all of it when you start talking to everybody and then you get to Atlanta and you start talking to Matt Ryan. Matt and I are wired very similarly just how he thought about the game and, and spent time with Arthur Blank and understand the resources that he has for this football team. Like it just, the fit was there for me.
And he cooked you a hell of a steak.
You know, how good was Arthur Blank? Outstanding. You know, I gotta give Arthur credit. He was outstanding on the grill. And I thought he was kidding. He's like, I'm gonna go grill. I'm like, there's no way Arthur's going to grill these steaks. And sure enough, here he comes back in with this. I saw him. He had him on the grill himself. Brought him back in. I'm like, that's pretty damn impressive.
Was it medium rare? Rare?
We went medium. I think most of the table went medium.
Kept it so.
That's kind of easy.
Yeah, hey, I wasn't asking, we were at Capitol Grill.
Well, he's got, I would imagine that he has the best grill being the Home Depot guy, right? He probably has several grills.
It was a pretty good grill. Also has good wine, if you can believe it. So, yeah, they treated me very nicely.
Who initiated afterwards when you guys took the picture of the hands on the shoulders?
You are so obsessed with pictures and where I am in these pictures.
We'll get to Jim Schwartz's nipples in a second.
That's another thing. Maybe I need to consult with you, like in any picture, maybe it's like a quick FaceTime.
Listen, I mean, the coach's picture is coming up. I would still like to give you an outfit. My outfit that I tried to pick for you came too late. I don't know if you'd still, look, you're, maybe we'll do it next year when you visit.
Does everybody know this story?
Yeah, well, I think I've told it that there was a year, I do the coach's blog every year, and Coach Stefanski was nice enough. He's like, hey, if you pick me out an outfit, I'll try to, I'll
try to work it in within reason.
Within reason. I did not do it within reason. I think it was, like, brown and orange plaid. I got, like, Scooby-Doo suit.
I got the Tasmanian devil. That's what I got. Cat sent me pictures or t-shirts with pictures of the old pictures, the coaching pictures on them. And then some of these shirts, which I'm sure were cool. Yeah, but I'm looking at these, like, I can't. Wear the shirt. So we go down there to. Where was this? It was a couple years ago. So I'm like, I can't do this. Like, this shirt is. I said, within reason, I'm gonna hurt cat big cat's feelings. I'm not gonna wear it. So sure enough, this is true story. So it's like this. It's like Monday. This coach's picture is on a Tuesday, and I'm like, man, I hurt cat's feelings. Not gonna wear the shirt. And then the woman comes in, she says, hey, we're gonna do the picture today. That's right. Yes, yes. I'm out of it.
Yes.
I texted Dan. I'm like, hey, man. I apologize, but hey, we took the picture a day early.
I need a redemption. So the within reason, I'll totally, I side with you on this. I think I stretched within reason.
You did.
But we can figure out something that I thought the one where it was the, because I remember I printed the shirt of the old picture wearing that like an inception move. I thought that would play.
Do you think so?
Yeah, I think so.
For your blog, it plays.
Yeah, all right, maybe we do it. I'll make a shirt of all the times that you've been in the picture. Just you. So it's just all your years.
Is that within reason?
Within my reason.
If you wanna ingratiate yourself to Atlanta
a little bit, right?
I do.
What about a giant, like, airbrushed ludicrous t-shirt?
That would be not a bad idea.
Big white tee.
Would you turn down a Kangol backwards?
Could I rock it? I mean, I can check with you guys first to see if it makes sense.
Bruce only wears it forwards. You could be the sideways guy. You could be like the artistic sideways guy.
What about a fedora?
I'm open to all of it, but I do get the sense that I have to check with my consultant. Yes.
Yes.
So maybe there's some, I'm gonna send
you some more stuff. I'm gonna send you some more stuff. But yeah, the picture you took with, we talked about it and this is not your fault, but as guys, we always do the arms around each other like after a golf round.
Yes.
And it's just, it always makes us all look awkward.
Well, the other problem I have going is I got Matt Ryan who's six foot In Cunningham, our new GM from your Bears. Okay, a six foot former offense lineman, six foot four. So, you know, I'm standing next to these guys in a bunch of pictures, like, not good for me.
Yeah.
Do you understand where I'm coming from? I know exactly where you're coming from. I work around a bunch of weirdos that are six foot three and above, and it's never a good visual. So you either have to dominate the foreground or that's actually the best strategy is just make sure that you're in front of them for every other picture.
Okay, done.
By the way, I have a question about Ian Cunningham. How involved is he in the draft process and how many picks do you owe the Bears?
Ian is very involved in the draft process. I know what you're getting at. Listen, I would say this, he's a stud. He's so deserving of that role. We didn't know each other. We have a lot of mutual friends and stuff, but just watching him operate these past few weeks and seeing what he's about, man, he's the right person for that job. I'd also point out, you know, when you talk about pedigree, he was with Baltimore, cut his teeth under Ozzie and Eric DeCosta. Goes to Philly under Howie, then goes to Chicago with Ryan Poles and like what they've done there in Chicago. So he's had unbelievable experiences.
Okay. So he's very involved, like so involved that we got to look into that as the NFL.
Sure.
Very involved.
Whatever you say.
What about Matt Ryan, president of football? Is an awesome job title.
Yeah.
Like I don't know how he just everyone else is like executive vice president of football operations. He's just president of football. I feel like we have to even acknowledge his office.
I haven't seen that business card yet. I'll see if I can get one for you guys. Yeah, Matt is a great guy to have as a boss. Like, I love on the org chart, he's my boss.
I love it. Now you're playing games. I see what you're doing.
Are you buying a football team?
Yeah.
I'm the head coach of the football team, but I report to the president of football.
That sounds like you might be vice president of football.
Yeah. I don't know if there's like a succession plan when it comes to like vice presidents to presidents. I'm not sure.
But incapacitated, you become president of football.
I don't know. You should write that in your contract.
Yeah.
So there was a lot made of you guys both being from Philly. Is that actually like the reason why you took the job? It's like, I need to be around another Philly scumbag.
Oh my God.
Max is shaking his head. He doesn't like that.
We could kick his ass, you know that. Yeah, honestly, not the fact that he's from Philly, but I know what he's about. I know what Matt's about. I know the things that are important to him, the fact that he's from Philly doesn't hurt, but I just knowing what is important to Matt, what's important is winning and how to put a roster together, that was a huge draw. Makes sense.
I noticed this year you started using a ploy with the media that I genuinely loved. Okay. Do you know what I'm getting at? No. You kept on just saying in press conferences, I understand the question and then not answering the question.
It's a skill.
So there was one that was, You were asked if there's a scenario where Watson plays this year's DeSean Watson. You said, I understand the question, but I'm really focused on the week. And then there was one that was asked if Dylan Gabriel's height is a factor in failing to throw to wide receivers. You said, I understand the question, but I would not characterize it that way. This is pretty good word salad right now. Yeah, this is, you're getting good at this.
Thank you.
You know what you try to do and the truth is, and we have our PR people here, you walk away from every, press conference and you're like, what was the headline?
Right.
Because you just don't want headlines. You want to be you want to give as much as you can without also then inserting yourself into it. So when I say I understand the question, it's more so I respect that you're asking it. I'm probably not going to answer it.
Yeah.
Has any reporter ever raised their voice at you?
Not yet. I'm looking forward to it. I'm going to try it now.
If we raise our voice, you got to you got to call us out.
Yeah, I can do it.
Okay. What would you like this headline to be? If you're thinking about, we're walking away from this interview, what do you want the headline to say about Kevin Stefanski?
I'm waiting for you to raise your voice.
Well, you haven't answered a question yet.
Well, I'm just trying to respectfully understand why you're asking the question, how you're asking it, but I'm just trying to
understand why you're answering a question that's not relevant.
Well, I understand that you understand that I understand it, but I want you to ask it in a different way.
I feel like I'm the coach now
and you're the, did you, are you raising his voice? Is he raising his voice? What, do we have a decibel meter in here?
Dude, this is on camera.
It's on camera.
Everyone heard it.
Did you see that? Did you see that?
I did see it. I did see it.
Listen, do you think yourself, like, as
coaches, after those losses, sometimes that's a tough spot to be. We're human. And listen, I'm sure I've had my moments where I wasn't at my best, but that's such a raw time after games to be answering questions.
Yeah, yeah. I do have a tough question for you here. This is from one of our Falcons fans at the office. His name is Big T. He wants to know if you score a touchdown down 14 with four minutes left, do you kick the extra point or do you go for two?
I think it depends. I think going for two is going to be the logical choice most times, but I think it depends on how much time is left in the game, how many possessions there might be. You know, when it comes to decisions like fourth down, like going for two, those type of things, to me, when the math is overwhelming, that's when you go with the math. If it's not overwhelming, then you're with your gut and you're going to decide based on where you are from a football team. In that scenario, do I like my two point play versus them? Is there two point defense? Is there low red zone defense out there? Then all the things start to factor into it.
Right. He also wants to know if you will show him the new uniforms early.
I've seen them.
Can you just explain them to us? Yeah.
Well, me and Matt, Ryan were in the other day and we went back. It was under lock and key with the equipment manager. I could explain to you, but I think I'd probably get shot. Or would they get shot or I'd get shot?
Who's getting shot?
One of us would get shot.
I'll take a bullet.
Yeah.
I love them.
Okay.
I love them.
But you didn't love my fashion choices, so now I got it.
That's fair.
Yeah.
I love them. Big cat won't love them.
Yeah.
Because they're not leopard print.
Oh, you should wear them in the coach's picture.
That would be sick.
With like pads on or just football. Or maybe, you know, they sometimes do like at the Pro Bowl where they wear the uniforms with no pads on.
Yeah.
It just looks totally ridiculous.
Yeah.
Coaches should go shirts and skins in the picture.
Okay.
Yeah, that would be good.
You want to pick whose shirts, whose skins now or.
Yeah. Andy Reid skins. You can wear a shirt.
McCarthy skins. Yeah.
What? I do want to say thank you for getting hired so quickly because we defended you throughout this entire last season.
Appreciate you.
Kevin Stefanski's a good coach. And we got accused a lot of times from Browns fans being like, you guys are just friends with him. We actually were proven correct because you got hired right away. So thank you.
You're welcome. I will say this, Browns fans are awesome. Like the dog pound, you guys have been there. Yeah. I mean, they're incredible. So listen, losing is hard and not, you know, coming up short from where you want to be is very, very hard. I'm a former fan. Like, it's very, it's never going to be When fans are upset, like I get that. I'm not so far removed from my own fandom that I don't understand where fans are coming from if their team falls short. Now, me and Max, were we calling in the WIP and bitching? Yes, we were. That's just how we were raised. I wouldn't call scumbags, but was there
a moment where like at the end of the season, we were like, it's over? Or did you feel it? It has to be a tough thing to deal with inside the you know?
Yeah, I was so I was told of the decision the Thursday before the last game, which I was very appreciative of, that I could prepare my family for that and that type of thing. And listen, these are not lifetime appointments, these jobs, you know, you know that you're not you're not signing for for your lifetime. You understand that it's a results business. So I respect that they made their decision. You know, I have no ill will towards anybody there. It's just it's part of the gig.
Do you think was there a small part of you that was like, maybe they'll rehire me once you realize that you actually had two Pro Bowl quarterbacks this year?
No, but I was happy to see Shadur go. Happy to see Joe go. That was pretty cool.
Yeah, very cool.
There are three things. When you got fired, we did have your back and I think we've had your back this whole season. I think you're not a good head coach. I think you're a great head coach. And so it wasn't a surprise you got rehired. But I said, I knew there was a but. I said at the time, I was ready for it. That I want truth serum answers from Stefanski about three things. Okay, so I'll give you all three things and then you have to pick one of them to be truthful about. The other two you can lie.
You can answer and then you have to decide what I was truthful about.
Which one was so that's a good game. Okay, the first one is the whole Baker saga. What happened there? The second is the whole DeShawn thing, all that stuff. And then the whole Shadur thing, drafting Shadur. It's really the whole thing around all those three guys, because I'm sure that the real story about what happened in all three of those circumstances is kind of crazy that none of us really have the full picture about. But if you were to pick one
of those three, this is journal as journalism. Ed, it's fine.
Yeah.
Two things and then tell me the truth about it.
With the line first.
Which one?
I understand the question.
I respect the question. I understand why you're asking.
Yeah.
I would tell you over the course of six seasons, like, I'm so appreciative, and this is the truth of like every single player that's played for us and played for me, like the things that they put their body through, you know, it's incredible. So I kind of how I feel about those six seasons were the things that I wish I did differently, of course, but I can't tell you how lucky I am to co, like those three guys you just mentioned, amazing people, and they did everything I asked them to do. So I have zero ill will towards anybody in that organization.
I think it was kind of Baker. I think, yeah, it was like talking about the body.
The body put their body through a lot of stuff.
Do you think it's all those, I mean, seriously, if you're playing, Baker kind
of backed off some of the mean stuff. He was being kind of a meanie the other day about you.
You should squash that, by the way, because Baker, you know Baker, if he's got a chip on his shoulder about something, you're in the division, you should squash that.
Listen, he's as competitive as they come. I got to coach him for two seasons. We get to compete against each other twice a year. That's the fun part of this business. And truthfully, you go against guys that you coach, you go against guys that you've coached with. You go against your friends in this business. That's the fun part of NFL football is like you try to kill each other for three hours on a Sunday. That's the fun part.
So you didn't mention how you would intentionally let Shadore get sacked this preseason. Cause you didn't want him to start. What was up with that? Why'd you do that?
I will say this. I love Shadore. I loved coaching him seriously. He's got the right makeup for this game. He was wired the right way. I wish that we won more, obviously, but if you saw how he played down the stretch, I mean, he's a young player that's getting better. I'm not coaching him anymore, so I know I have to be careful about talking about other players, but I am rooting for him.
Are you intentionally trying to get white bearded dudes in your coaching staff?
Me and Brick's got a sick white beard.
Yeah, you got, you got, mine's blonde. Jeff Olbrich and then Dave Huxtable too.
Hux, yeah, Hux.
Yeah, so what's up with that? You got three guys with some severe, you know, Where are you coming from?
Are you coming from a, well, I'm
getting salt and pepper. I dye my beard. Do you dye it? Every now and then I'll touch it up.
So back in high school, it kind of probably goes in my family, which you won't be surprised to hear, but my cousin was going gray early and we went to CVS to go get him hair dye. My wife, when we were high school kids, and we just got black, we didn't realize that jet black was different than black. So we dyed his hair jet black and he looked like it was a Lego hair on top. Be careful the colors that you choose.
Yes, that's true. By the way, speaking of that, your dad was obviously the GM for the Nets and big into basketball. Did you ever get like a trade rumor at like dinner table?
So my dad was in the NBA or still is in the NBA working with the Suns now. I didn't grow up around NBA basketball. He didn't get into the NBA until I was almost in college. Okay. Now he was around college basketball growing up. He played college basketball. He was a high school basketball coach. I grew up in a basketball family, but I've never been to an NBA practice in my life.
Wow.
Huh.
This is very important. It's a little bit of advanced analytics that we put together, actually going into this last season, but you should be aware of as coach of the Falcons. I just saw a report that you guys are going to franchise tag Kyle Pitts. Sounds like that's going to be moving forward. Great player.
Another Philly guy.
Are you aware that in his first five seasons in the NFL, He's had one touchdown, two touchdowns, three touchdowns, four touchdowns, five touchdowns. Will you commit to next season?
We actually proprietary, like we found this, that out ourselves.
This is incredible.
Can you commit to him scoring exactly six touchdowns next season?
At that point, but not more.
No more. You cannot do more.
So if he gets to six early in the season,
he's going to be a Hall of Famer if he plays 20 years. Because then he'll have a 20 year, like his 20th year in the NFL, he'll be 40 years old. And how many touchdowns?
In your 20, it's 20 touchdowns.
Yeah, right.
He's going up one a year. It's a great stock.
I can't commit to it.
You should, because you might be just throwing it all away. Like what if he scores 10 touchdowns this season, and then after that, it's like all his touchdowns are gone. The human body is not how it works. It's like he only has so many touchdowns in his body.
It's a battery. You just waste.
I guess my concern, if he gets to the number, are we supposed to not put him in the red zone for the rest of the season?
Correct.
Soft benching. He can play anywhere between the 20s.
And the reason for this would be to just stay true to the stat.
It's funny.
It gives us like three minutes to
talk about the podcast content.
Yeah, exactly.
Appreciate that. Are you, like, what are you thinking about when you take the job and you're like, I get to coach Bijan because he's awesome?
Well, you know, I had Nick Chubb for a bunch of years there in Cleveland. And Bijan, just the person, the way he's wired. Have you guys spent any time with him?
No.
No.
Man.
It's actually Bijan. We screwed that up.
Okay. Whatever he wants me to call him, I'll call him. Because he is a stud human being. He's a stud football player. There's no shortage to the things that we can do with him. The coaches are on the board right now just drawing up plays and it's like, all right, I want to touch the ball a lot. He can't touch it every play.
Why not?
Well, there's 17 plus games that we got to get him ready for. Do I have a limit? Is there a governor on the number of touchdowns?
We actually would like you to have him touch it on every play.
Good to know. Good to know. Yeah, he's an incredible human being.
Yeah, he's awesome. Electric and fun to watch.
This might be a very dumb question, unlike the others, which are really smart. But is there anything different about coaching a left-handed quarterback? Like you're getting yourself into a lefty situation now. Do you have to have experience coaching lefty?
Well, we had Dylan Gabriel. Dylan's a lefty, obviously. Michael, yeah. We talk a lot about steps for quarterbacks. And when you're going to your right, you're going to your, like when you open to your left, it's going to be an even number of steps on those play actions. For a righty quarterback, because he flips his feet around. So we do catch ourselves sometimes talking like, hey, if we're running this protection and it's a lefty, it's actually his dominant hand. So as quarterbacks or as coaches, it does take us a second to recalibrate.
But besides that, the ball spins different,
but I haven't found a player that told me that that's hard to go from a righty catching to a lefty. I think the guys, the spin doesn't bother them.
Have you figured out which rivalry you hate the most? In the South, do you already have a hatred for the Saints?
Well, I know just if you talk to our fans, they're certainly the Saints is probably the top of the list. Listen, I'm coming from a division in the AFC North where those were battles, you know, every single game, I expect no different versus these three opponents.
Were you hesitant to take the job because you have to play Shuck twice?
He's gonna shut you up. He's a great player. We spent a lot of time with him. I respect the question, by the way. We spent a lot of time with him in the pre-draft process. Great kid, man. What we did with all the players that came in, we put them through an install and then went to a walkthrough. He was like a coach out of the walkthrough, like lining people up. He was very, very impressive.
Yeah.
You're going to get shucked up. It's just going to happen. S-H-O-U-G-H. Yeah.
E-D.
Shocked. Everybody gets shocked up. It's just how do you respond?
Yeah, right. You got to get off the mat. We actually do have a guy who got shucked up multiple times this year. Stephen Shea who's a bucks fan. Do you have a question for Coach Stefanski?
Get on up here.
Get on up here.
Do you believe in the best availability or the best ability is availability?
Bad question. Great question.
It's a follow up.
It's a, you know, it's setting you up for interesting questions. I'm ready for it. It's a classic one. I was in Minnesota all those years and all There was a lot of talk about those purple people eaters. Those guys never missed a game. And, you know, think about the Hall of Famers. So, yeah, it is important.
As head coach of the Atlanta Falcons, you should know that Chick-fil-A was open for two games last year. And while the season is an out, projected low availability for this coming season. My last question is a yes or no.
Wait, wait, wait.
Did you have a stroke? Yeah.
What else is on Steve?
The hell just happened?
What was the setup?
The, Chick-fil-A, I just wanted to see if he was, if he was, aware of the Chick-fil-A situation. A lot of people are- You're talking
about Thursday and Monday Night Games?
Yes. They were open two games last year. And as the head coach of the Falcons, you should be aware of a problem in the building.
Oh, so you're breaking news to them that they're going to play most of their games on Sundays.
Is he aware of the Chick-fil-A problem?
I'm aware that they're closed on Sundays. Yeah.
Chick-fil-A's closed on Sundays.
Wow.
Okay.
Are you suggesting that they turn their back on their religious beliefs?
I mean, you could do something about that. I'm sure the fans would appreciate that.
Did you test that question on anyone?
No, I didn't.
Okay.
We should have, we should have screened this process.
If you moved down here for three hours, you couldn't throw me that one. So I could have been like, hey, let's go back to the drawing board.
I love the setup.
I have just the yes or no question. Already. And I am a Buccaneers fan, so I'm loyal to Baker Mayfield.
But
Stephen, for being for the podcast, this is your Steven. It's head to tone. Buck's gear right now.
Yeah.
2022 off season for the Browns. Obviously a big change. Yes or no, would you. Going back in time, would you want to do things differently? You guys obviously acquired DeSean Watson, got rid of Baker Mayfield.
Yeah, I respect the question and understand why you're asking it. And I'm not going to give you a yes or no. I would tell you all those decisions that were made, you learn from all of them. And those are tough decisions that are made for rosters and those type of things. But can't change the past. Only going to focus on the future. How was that? That
was a great question.
He's good.
Thank you. He's good.
This is the old question that we used to ask everybody. I haven't for a while. Who's the most famous person on your cell phone?
Ooh, man. I don't know. You know, it's probably somebody from the football circles that we all run in. The most famous, can I answer that in a different way?
Sure.
Condoleezza Rice was a-- She almost took your job.
Yeah.
Well, she's a huge Browns fan, and she grew up a huge fan of the Browns and Jim Brown. In particular. So I was very lucky to develop a relationship with her from being the Browns coach. Now she's at part owner of the Broncos. Yeah. So she's not with the Browns anymore, but she's somebody that I can email, I guess, if that counts.
Yeah.
It's kind of crazy that she was rumored to have the job before you.
She probably would do great. I have zero doubt in my mind that she would do great at anything she tried.
As a head coach in the NFL.
I have zero doubt that she would succeed in anything she does.
What about Secretary of State?
Would she succeed at it?
Yeah.
Yes.
Some people would disagree. The whole Iraq war thing wasn't great. She was not allowed to invade a country.
I think she's excellent at she's a very intelligent person. She's capable of doing anything.
Yeah.
All right. I got another famous person question. St. Joe's Prep, where you went to high school, a lot of famous alum rank these four people in terms of their rapping ability. Marvin Harrison Jr. DeAndre Swift, Kevin Stefanski,
Adam Fron, Ron one.
Oh, there we go. That's all I wanted. Okay, you don't have to.
Whoever else you said, two and three made for. All right, good.
Respect on Ron. He beat out Marvin Harrison Jr.
So I have three brothers. My older brother didn't go to St. Joe's. I went to Archbishop Carroll. Then my two younger brothers went to St. Joe's, so they know Adam.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Bob Lang.
Bullet Bob Lang.
You saw the best.
Is he a rapper, too?
Yeah, he's a rapper. He's actually probably the best rapper.
Ron is like the most talented person that we work with. It's kind of crazy.
Yeah.
All the stuff he's good at. Can you describe your football philosophy to us? Offensive philosophy.
Score a lot of points and control the football and control the game by controlling the football. I do believe in this day and age, and you guys talk to Mike McDonald and the defensive coaches are so damn good in this league. You have to be able to pivot week to week because a guy like Mike is going to go into a game or some of these Defense coaches are gonna say, we're gonna take away what you do best. And as a system or as a coach with an offensive system, you better be able to pivot into something that you better have a curveball to your fastball.
He did say that that great defense beats great offense. Do you agree with that?
Well, I'm the head coach of the team. I'm not the offensive head coach. So I don't, I can't lose when the offense plays well. It's good for me. When the defense plays well, it's good for me. Like at practice, I don't have a I'm rooting for both sides.
Yeah.
Okay.
You were the head coach of the all-time sack record. How cool was that for Miles Garrett in week 18?
Incredible. That whole, just that whole season. And I don't, I've tried to make this point. I don't know if people get this. The degree of difficulty to which he's doing that is insane because every team goes into those games saying, we can't let him wreck the game and he still does. It's like it doesn't compute. When you see they put a tight end over there to chip him. Now we play him this year, so I have to be careful in saying too much here, but they chip him, they slide to him, they put a running back over there, the ball comes out quick. We saw it in certain games where it was to the detriment of the offense because they changed how they played because of having Miles out there. To still get it done, to still get the record with all that against him was incredible.
Yeah. I know you can't talk about players on other teams, but James is the best.
I love James. I can talk about James. Okay.
I mean, he should be a starter.
I love the person. He was so good to me, to our team, to that meeting room. I mean, the energy that he brings every single day. And also what I appreciate about James is he's been in so many different systems. So the way he sees the game, he's great both as a starter, but as a backup to have tips for young guys and just the coaching points that he's had over the course of his career. Think about, you know, he came in, Top pick, had some struggles, bounced back. I mean, I've seen him play it at such a high level even recently. But I love the person.
That snow game was incredible.
The best.
That was crazy. The first half, no snow. Second half, the game, as you're watching it, you're having a hard time seeing it. Our coaches up in the booth, they were like, useless in the second half. They're like, 32-yard line question mark. They didn't know where the ball was. They're like, I think it's on the left hash. They couldn't tell. It was incredible.
Yeah, he is the best. I want to see James starting somewhere at some point. The league deserves it. The fans deserve it. We've had a debate about your history on this show in the past. Did you win a playoff game?
I'll let you guys debate that one.
Well, we have. It's tough.
I think you want to win.
Where did you land?
I think you want to play off games similar to I won multiple national championships playing NCAA 14.
I also.
We both did in our basements.
Yeah, fair. That experience, man, I don't ever want to do that again.
No.
Who gave you COVID?
Shoot, great question. I don't remember.
We're gonna find that person.
Yeah, that was brutal. But talk about control, like as a coach, you have so much control, you're calling plays or you're making decisions, then that leaves you and you're just watching your team play. Now, you script the first 15, you put the game plan together, all those type of things, Once you get to, I remember there's a moment in the third quarter, Alex Van Pelt, who's our quarterback coach in Atlanta, was calling plays that night. And I knew I could see his brain working. He got to a screen late in the game, and I was kind of staring at it on my call sheet, and AVP and I were thinking about the same thing. He called the screen, Nick Chubb, next thing you know, 50 yards for a touchdown. It was like, man, as fun as that moment was, that was excruciating that experience.
All right, I think you want to play off game.
Yeah.
Because it sounds like you, basically implanted in.
I wish I had that ability. I didn't have that ability, but I'm surrounded by great coaches.
So you would have also called the screen.
Who knows? AVP should get all the credit for that moment.
Okay.
Did you have a different stream down in the basement when you were watching?
So this is a true story. At some point, I'm downstairs in the basement. My wife is leaving food for me at the top of the stairs like I'm in prison and closing the door. My kids are upstairs. At some point during the pregame, I must have got up to use the restroom. I pressed pause on the TV. So I come back and I press pause, don't think of it. Well, here we go. First play of the game, they have the ball. Roethlisberger's in shotgun and they're breaking the huddle and I hear all hell breaking loose upstairs as they're breaking the huddle on my feed. And I hear my son screaming, like, what the hell just happened? I'm like, Did he throw an interception? Now I'm like, oh shit, I'm behind. I'm like, he must have thrown an interception. I see the ball go over his head, but I was tipped off by my kids upstairs.
Oh, that's brutal. Spoiled on your own playoff.
We deal with that sometimes in the gambling cave.
Yeah, we'll hear like rogue screams from the other side of the office.
Why? Because it's the field goal.
There's a couple that aren't matched up and be like, what just happened? So we banned that.
Yeah, it's gotta have respect. You gotta be in the form.
You have to be in the form across the board. Did you reach out to Mike Tomlin after the season?
I did.
Were you like, hey, tough business, not a lifetime appointment, apparently.
That's a good line.
Yeah.
So Mike T and I go way back. He was a defensive coordinator of the Minnesota Vikings when I was at Minnesota as a young coach. So loved competing against Mike all those years. A good friend. So I'm rooting for him for whatever comes next.
Yeah. I mean, it was kind of crazy what happened to that division.
Zach's the last man standing.
Last man standing was he, Did you reach out to him? Were you like, hey man, you might be next.
Just like, don't get too comfortable. I'm taking us to the next level. Now that's, that is the fun part. Like you try to kill each other on Sundays, but Harbs, great dude. Mike T, great dude. Zach, great guy. I mean, like we all, we're, you're friends outside of this building, but you're also outside of the moment, but doesn't change the fact that you're trying to kill him for three hours.
Yeah.
Yeah. Have I pitched you the fake punt punt?
Probably, but let's do it again.
No, you know what? I don't respect that answer.
He doesn't want to hear it. Yeah, he doesn't want to hear it.
I don't want it. I don't want it.
Can I interest you in downfield laterals?
Yes. You love the downfield.
I know. Yeah, I've always said that.
You need him on your team just to get in the open field and just constantly pitch it.
It was.
I would actually say that. Did you play rugby? I did, yeah. The way the Falcons roster all decade, no big deal. The way the Falcons roster is constructed right now, You might be the most ready team to fully embrace the downfield lateral movement.
Okay.
Like just get the ball to B.J.
more. And if he has the ball, is he supposed to pitch it?
Yeah, he hit Drake, he can hit Kyle, you can throw it back to Michael. Kirk Cousins, Kirk Cousins would be great running the downfield lateral offense. But yeah, you guys have so many good playmakers. I feel like you could really take advantage of that.
Yeah, I don't know that we're going to go, I think we have some other things we're going to try and get good at. I don't know that the downfield lateral is going to be one of them. Come on, fake punt.
You pretend that you're going to do a fake punt and then you punt. They never see it coming.
How about the one, did you guys see the kid, it was high school where they threw it under on the punt, they threw it underhand and the guy down, they went down and caught the ball, so it was a pass.
Oh yeah, yeah, maybe that one.
Okay.
But seriously, field position is very important. If you fake the punt, everyone comes up.
And then when you're faking, are you faking the run?
Yeah, your punter kind of runs or like gets gets, you know, gets ready to throw, and then everyone comes up, and then he punts.
Okay.
Yeah. They never expect it.
All right.
And it always ends in a punt.
I don't think you fully understand.
No, I don't think you get the fake punt.
Please. So I'm a little scarred. First game of my head coaching career at the Baltimore Ravens. Okay. We faked a punt in the first quarter, I think, of the game. I don't know if it was the first. It didn't work.
Yeah.
I haven't faked one since.
Oh, so you're afraid of fake punts now?
I have some. I have some scars. You have some cocoa butter for me. I'm scarred up.
But no one's. Respecting it now, especially the fake punt punt.
This is actually a great way to fake a punt because you end up punting anyway.
Yeah, you can get yourself used to it.
It's kind of like the, the, what's it like a gateway drug? Yeah, right.
Yeah.
You're using yourself in.
Okay.
Yeah. Wait, have you, do you have it like, so you did it the first time and you've never called it again, but don't you have checks that your punter could potentially?
We do. Well, you've never attempted another fake punt. We have not attempted another fake punt. Wow.
That's kind of crazy.
First game as a head coach, it didn't work.
That was- why did you do it the first game? That was stupid.
It was, it was, it was stupid. That's a reason.
I'm going to take the league by storm.
I respect how you feel about that, Dan. And I'll take that into account.
Yeah. We have a guy that's trying out, actually. He was, he's a great college center. He played at Indiana. Mike Kadic. I just want you to take a look at his past set.
Yeah.
Mike Kadic.
Okay. What kind of line calls can you make for me? Okay, Max, what would you use on a 5-0 was your tap the head?
Oh, that was for six. Six man.
Yeah, we.
I'm not gonna. Yeah. Poker.
Poker.
Five man, which is 5050.
Would signal to the back. Is this riveting stuff?
Yeah, it's awesome.
For me, it is.
For me, it is. Is my.
Yeah.
603 won 315 pounds, started 50 games at Indiana University. Make a call for me before you.
Okay, so are we in six man?
Yeah, we're in six man. So what do you, is there any pressure? We got will free safety. Are they rotation? Yeah, opposite the call. Yeah.
Okay, so the quarterback will, at IU,
quarterback will make the flip call. All right, flip. So we got 48 the mic. Hey, laser, laser, laser.
Wait, Andy!
Oh, pause, pause, pause.
They're gonna run a TT twist too. How much time do you think we have? There's a play clock, guys. Wait, it is.
Switch.
It's actually pretty good. I like the hands to be a little bit higher when you come up and just get the ball. Yeah, just more power from the ground.
I was always a grab.
I was always a grab guy. Snatch guy. One arm and then catch. Can we pull you in the run game? Yeah, I would pull as a center. I think she had a great block in the College Football Playoff against Notre Dame a couple of years ago.
Did you guys win that game?
Oh, my God, out of breath. Oh, no, we lost.
He blocked for Michael Penix.
Yeah, I did.
Yeah, so he's ready to go. Okay, did Michael ever take a snap from under center with you?
Yes.
Okay, there you go.
So his hands were opposite, I think.
Yeah, he was left hand on top. That's exactly right. And I'm a center that likes the
guys get right up in there, like balls on the knuckles.
So, he's actually a great fit for Michael Penix.
Coach says, it gets your hands, you know, that finger in the center's notch is the term. He uses the notch term. I'm not sure what that means, but he's like, right in the center's notch.
Yeah, I mean, that's important. You could probably blindfold Michael Penix, have him get Under Kadic and he'd be able to tell you like a taste test. This is my guy. Yeah, that's my guy. It feels like home cooking.
I know it. I know it. Oh, man.
All right.
Well, Coach, this has been awesome. I got one last question for you. Rowback question. RHO BAC k.com promo code take. PFT is wearing some rowback right now. They got everything. QZips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. You want to give us a prediction on the season?
I'm not in the prediction business. I leave that to you guys. But I will say this.
10 and seven.
I leave that to you guys, but
I feel like 10-7.
I feel very strongly about the coaches we have, the players that we have and that we're adding, but we will keep our focus on what's in front of us. I like that.
At some point, would it get insulting to win another Coach of the Year title?
Yeah, you got two.
That's not, listen, there's hardware I'm interested in. That's not it.
Actually, you're an incredible trivia question. This coach won two coaches of the year awards. Titles and has never won a playoff game.
Holy shit. Didn't we just say that I did?
You just raised your voice at us.
Don't raise your voice. It's on camera, dude.
Chill out. Damn it. I made it this far.
All right, I'm sending you some new shirts.
We're going to try to get it within reason.
Within reason and a kangle, maybe a fedora. What about a chain wallet?
I'm not opposed to it. I'm not all the I'm not opposed to it. Everything comes back.
What about rollerblades?
Let's get weird. Let's go.
Jinko's would be awesome.
Picture.
All right. Big ass cargo shorts. The more you say, within reason, by the way, the reason. The more unreasonable it comes.
Yeah.
Yeah. All right, well, coach, you're the best. Thank you so much.
Appreciate you guys.
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And now here is Adam Schefter.
Okay, as is tradition, we welcome on
a very, very, very, very, very special guest.
Recurring guest. I think this is like our seventh year in a row doing it at the combine.
But we have broken the tradition.
We have. Well, I have.
Yeah.
Usually. How dare we leave?
I bat lead off.
Yes.
Now I'm in the nine hole.
Yes.
Adam Schefter's here.
He had to, he was having a hell of a time with the flights, but he's here. He came straight from the airport to our interview. That's how much we love him. He loves us. Also, thank you for the wonderful Christmas gift. Great fleece this year. Holiday gift. Incredible. Did you like the fleece or not? I like the fleece. I wore the fleece. Fleece. You're a massive cashmere guy. Well, you know what? It's this company. I could give them a shout out.
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Okay, right? Yeah. So what happened was one year I went to the SPS, and it was probably the only time I've been invited to the SPS. And they bring it to this gifting suite, and they gave me this robe, and I brought it home for my wife, and she,
like, she loves it. And all of a sudden, every time we're ordering gifts for people, I'm gonna call cashware. Yeah. So she calls them. So, blankets, we got blankets.
Yeah.
So she's like, why don't you do the three-quarter zip or the quarter zip,
or whatever the hell it is. So that's what we did, and great company out in Arizona, Mary Glecker, the owner, awesome job.
All right, shout out to Mary. The softest stuff that I have in my house is courtesy of Adam Schefter. Yeah, courtesy of Cashmere. Okay, so we're at the Combine. Let's start from the top. Let's start with what's the biggest story in your mind that you're gonna be digging after or talking about? Digging is a bad word for me this week, okay?
That's true. I just dug out my driveway for
two straight days to get here.
Yeah.
And look, I think we always go to the quarterbacks.
It's always about the court.
Andy Dalton. Massive news. You just broke it. You did. On the way, were you in the car on the way here? And then you said, On the way here, Andy Dalton is generating a lot of buzz. Does that bum you out when you're like, I have to tweet that the Panthers are getting calls about Andy Dalton? Because like, I saw it and I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, well, listen, there's a lot of that stuff. That's fine. Like that would bump me out a little bit. Like not all of them can be hitters and that one certainly is not.
Well, I thought that one said reverberations around the NFL. I guess it didn't.
Yeah, sometimes you gotta eat your vegetables, right?
Yeah. It can't all be T-bone. Right. My dad said, you know, I, yeah, exactly. You can't have all home run hitters. You have some single hitters. You have to play defense. I don't know.
And Andy Dalton, I don't know if that's even a single. Take one for the team, Andy. Yeah. He's a good guy. He's a great guy. I think he'll end up in an interesting place. It may not get you going, but
maybe where he winds up may get you going. Okay. Oh, is he gonna, you think he's gonna come back Chicago? Oh, I hadn't thought about that one.
But if they move on from Tyson Bajan. Yeah, they traded Tyson Bajan. Need a backup. No, but like he worked with Frank Reich in Carolina. Jets.
And there's the perpetual team that's out there, the Minnesota Vikings.
Like that would make a, he'd be the perfect guy for JJ McCarthy.
He looks like a Viking. Perfect guy for JJ McCarthy. You know what he'd be perfect for
too is the Colts moving off from Daniel Jones and being like, we got
to keep the stretch of doing a different starting quarterback every year. Andy Dalton would fit in. Andy Dalton, Kirk Cousins as well.
Yeah.
We could turn this into the Andy
Dalton podcast and see how he would fit in each particular city with a quarterback opener.
Yeah, that'll be a lot of fun. Just based on vibes, I could see
him, yeah, as a Minnesota Viking.
I could see him as a Jet too. Are you thinking Jets? I could see both those places. I kind of like the Vikings.
Okay. And then where's Kirk gonna go? You know, I don't know that Minnesota ever was very viable for Kirk.
I know people have made that connection and it could happen. That'll be an option, but I didn't
get the sense that that was like top of the list like a lot
of people would think it would be. You hear he's being released on the first day of the league year, has a house in Minnesota, fits in well with the organization. That was my thought initially at the Super Bowl when I was talking to some people. And I thought, Kirk Cousins, Minnesota, but
I didn't get the sense it's going to wind up as Kirk Cousins, Minnesota. And we'll see how the other options play out. What are the other options for Kirk Cousins?
If you had to guess, just throw out some names.
Well, I mean, there's always a Kyle Shanahan, but Matt Jones is there.
I don't think they're going to trade Mac Jones.
Okay, yeah, that's what I'm saying. They just have not, they like him too much. And Brock Purdy runs around, he's an active guy, and he's missed some time.
And when Brock Purdy missed time, Mac was able to step right in, and
the offense hummed along.
I think they really like Mac Jones too much to move off of right now. Oh, too much. Maybe a soft benching of Mac Jones. Soft benching of Brock Purdy. Yeah, I mean, Brock Purdy, yeah. These are quarterback too. They have two quarterbacks they love. But the way you just said it, Like too much. Too much. It sounds like Adam Schiff is saying, move him. Quarterback controversy in San Francisco. Stop the presses. Quarterback controversy. Soft benching for Brett. No, they just like both those quarterbacks. I got a city I'll throw out there. Phoenix.
What about the Cardinals for old Kirksey? Well, they need some kind of veteran, right? And we don't think we don't think Kyler will be back there.
By the way, lunch just arrived. Lunch is just arrived. You hear the bags in the back of the car. That's Mike Cade. He brings a lot of leverage to the wrong location. And so listen, we got big boys who got to eat. Well, we got Arizona, Cleveland, the Jets, Miami. There could be some teams that need
backups after they move on from their backups.
Minnesota.
I don't know where Kirk is going to go. What about, so what is Miami going
to have to do to get rid of Tua? Like are they going to have to
trade a pick with Tua? I would think, first of all, I
don't think he'll wind up being traded.
I know they said all options are on the table, but the contract is so large and there's so much money involved.
I think that's a very difficult contract. Yeah, I think. I think they probably just have to wind up releasing him.
And the question is, how do you want to take your medicine? You want to take it all at once?
One year, 99.1 million, the largest cap hit in NFL history. You want to spread it out, make them post June 1, like to me. I haven't seen their books for this and next year. They got some smart people there doing
that, but I would just take all my medicine.
Yeah.
All at once. Yeah, especially because you're rebuilding.
You got a new coach, you're rebuilding. Just eat it for one year, maybe be bad for one year, and then you can try to find your next quarterback. And not only that, not only eat it this year, if your team is
struggling and you have a new head coach and a new GM, and you're going to be patient with them, now you're set up to have a great pick in the 2027 draft that supposedly is going to be loaded with a lot of quarterbacks. So I take all my medicine all at once.
If it were me, I think it's a tough contract to trade. If they were able to find a way to trade it, it would be a Brock Osweiler type. I don't even see it happening. I don't see it happening. Can we get ahead of a story that might happen a year from now? Ooh, I like this. Because you're talking about next year's draft, right? I feel like this year in the draft, we all kind of know it's going to be Mendoza. Right. He's going to go number one. What's interesting to me is-- But you never know a year in advance. You never know that guy's going to be-- you- never know a year out. But I like to write a little bit of like, Like look into the future, Crystal Ball fan fiction. So just like a fun prediction for next year.
I would say Crystal Ball or Crystal Ball? Crystal Ball. Okay. Crystal Ball fan fiction. Next year, we could have a Manning
going first overall in the draft. Is this Manning, do you think this Manning would be comfortable going to any team in the NFL or would this Manning pull a Manning like we've seen in the past? Hold up for next year. Yeah. Yeah. We got Dante Moore, Arch Manning, Brendan Sorsby, Lenora Sellers, Trinidad Chambliss.
He's probably gonna go back for another eight. Julian Sain. Yeah. CJ Carr, Sam Levitt, UCLA's quarterback Nico Lama. You got it. I believe that. Okay. And John Maturi. Like, I like John Maturi. There are a lot of guys next year. And usually like where people are trying to peg the quarterbacks a year out
and they're always guys that rise up
like you never would have seen Cam
Ward go number one, you never would have seen Fernando Mendoza go number one and there are guys that slide down.
See Shadore Sanders last year.
Cade Klubnik was, you know, when he started at Clemson everyone was like, Cade Klubnik is going to be a top 10 pick this year, right? Initially a lot of people thought. Yep.
It's kind of fools gold rating them
a year out, but it certainly seems
like there are a hell of a
lot of good quarterbacks in 27. And if I were a team and
I had to swallow some money, I'd
want to get myself in position to get one of those quarterbacks, especially if I were in a division with Josh Allen and Drake May. And the Jets have the first round corner next year anyway.
They do.
So you got to do something to get in there.
They do, but do you think that You think that the Mannings would do the power play like they did last time? Or is that just strictly like an anti-Chargers bias that they have? I think at that point that was, I think that was an anti-Chargers bias. I think he didn't want to see him go to that organization. Arch Manning, he's a very smart guy. They know the reputations of certain organizations.
At that time, he did not like what he heard at that time.
Yeah. And he was looking out for his son. We can have that conversation in a year. It's a long ways in the future, but you talked about the Jets, Jets how they're in good position this year next. Memes is very curious. I'm sure he was out of the room when you first talked about possibly Andy Dalton to the Jets. Do the Jets have something else cooking? Like can we expect the Jets to be Andy Dalton? Yeah, what's bigger than Andy Dalton? You know, here's the thing. Justin Fields is still on the roster.
He is.
Tyrod Taylor is still on the roster, right?
He is. Yeah. I mean, again, we've got this group of teams all in the market. Only one of them is going to get Malik Willis.
And Malik Willis is the top foraging quarterback this year. The crown jewel. The crown jewel. I just think it's a tough year to be in the quarterback market. And it's hard to predict how that's
going to shake out when there aren't a whole lot of options out there. The demand. Greatly exceeds the supply as usual. I want to do a favor for you. Okay, you ready for this? Yes, we love you so much. Yeah, good. I'm gonna give you some breaking news. Do you want some breaking news? Always love breaking news. Okay, here's some breaking news.
And this is factual.
We
could be backed up by multiple people in this room. John Spytek, Michigan man.
Yep, great.
Raiders GM had a conversation today about Max Crosby and potentially trading That's big news. Is that breaking news? Can I add on to that?
Or PMT?
Well, we actually were the ones who had the conversation with him and we were just pitching him fake trades. He is receiving. That is the conversation. Well, that's big. I was willing to trade him Tyson Bajian in a first rounder for Max Crosby. He laughed at me. He actually didn't even respond. So, John Spytek, let me correct that. John Spytek laughed. At trade talks about Max Crosby.
Or John Spytek was listening to trade offers. He technically was. We were kind of like cornered him and made him. You could tweet that. That would be accurate.
I was listening to try to say
that he's fielding offers because there were, there was a competitor's offer that got put on the table that he did not turn down. Yeah. The commander's offer. You the commander's offer. An unnamed team was, they heard that.
But obviously Max Crosby was involved in
conversations trade, trade wise and another unnamed team offered to Ron Payne and a first round pick for Max Crosby. And there was a third team. It was an aggressive bidding war. Let me guess.
Yeah.
New England. No, it was actually it was Tampa. Tampa came over the top and said, we actually have a better pick. What was the Bears? I think they offered the 15th pick and in a third, which is a laughable offer. And I think Stephen Chase next This child will be named Max with two X's.
Yes.
And I'm just surprised that Hank didn't get in here.
No, he wasn't there. No. I don't know where he would have gotten it.
Resting on his laurels after a Super Bowl.
Yeah, he felt like the team is
in the right direction and didn't need to do much.
Also, John Spytek, he had a, or Spytek had a conversation with people regarding Fernando Mendoza's college center who had nothing but glowing things to say about Mendoza
being one of the boys.
So John Spytek's doing his due diligence on Fernando Mendoza Speaker 4: doing his background check where we just, have you met Mendoza yet? Yes. We have, yeah, I have, but we basically, this conversation was simply, hey, you
see that fat guy over there? That was the center before Mendoza came,
but he helped recruit him, said he's a good dude.
One of the boys. So that was, that was the entire conversation. So the Raiders are looking, the Raiders, Mendoza and his center while listening to trade offers from Max Croft. Not the center. They're not looking at the center. The Raiders have been made aware that
Mendoza is a good dude. Yep. Per reports of another good dude.
I could have reported that at the Super Bowl.
I could have reported that at the
Super Bowl because I happened to spend about 20 minutes with Mendoza. What was that like?
I thought he was a very impressive kid. How many flippings did he drop? Did he drop any flippings? No, no. Okay.
But it was, he was a very, Engaging, personable, young man. Very polite, very, very nice, very impressive. So that was relayed to the writers. That kid was pretty impressive. They're doing their background research.
No character concerns, exactly, with Mendoza, per us, and you. Correct. Since we do this every-- Is this
like you're both of your phones? Either getting more texts about Max Crosby trade talks, Or you have a list of questions to fire off.
I do have, we've been playing nice,
but we do have to say, I don't have it.
No, we don't have it. No, we don't have it. Do we have a review that we like to do with Shafter? Yeah. Congrats on breaking the Pope news. Mm-. That was, that was fun.
Was it fun?
With the white smoke?
Yeah.
Did you get caught up in the
conclave and all that?
I was waiting for the announcement.
I had people stationed outside
the Vatican and they were able to come through
and provide me the information I needed to get that I think that news out as fast as I possibly could. Yeah, I think a lot of people sent it out in the ESPN alert system. I know people got alerts on their phones.
Yeah.
Like per Adam Schefter, there's a lot of Swiss engagement and Travis Kelsey's engagement as well. That's pretty good.
Yeah.
You're saying like I didn't expect to be getting the news of their engagement
on the ESPN alert. You're also doing golf reporting now too.
Oh, I love that.
Right. Is there any, like, can anyone else have a job or do you just want to do everyone's job for them? Well, if Mike Tirico is going to do everything and do the Super Bowl and the flight of the Olympics.
And we've got all kinds of people
who are doing all kinds of things. NBA, Johnny, Johnny Fanta.
Yeah, he's a college and NBA. Johnny Fanta, actually, I emceed a charity event for this company the last few years, and this year was the first year in a few years that I
didn't get to emcee at BTIG in New York City. And I'm like, you don't need me. Like, no, you can come. But John Fante's I'm seeing it.
Well, that was probably because John Fante
was like, I can deliver you Kevin
Willard at this event. So that was that was. Went to his wedding.
That's how it goes. Have you been to any coaches weddings?
Good question.
Yeah, that's a yes. That's a yes. This is a yes. Currently this is a yes.
You're going to get us on technicality not say current coaches or not head coaches. But you have. I've been to weddings.
Of people related to coaches. That's what I was thinking. Okay.
Yeah.
What?
Yeah.
Who could that be?
Weddings of people who are related to coaches.
Right.
Like children of head coaches. Oh, God. I've been to their wedding. Steve Belichick. Do you think you'll be invited to Bill and Jordan's wedding? I hadn't thought about that. Are they secret married? I'm unaware of that. Okay. Is that a secret that you would keep? Would you sit on that if you had that information?
That would be pretty big information, right? That would rival the Pope. Yeah, sure.
Big time.
Bigger than the Pope.
It would be like, Travis is our Pope.
Yeah.
Like Travis and Taylor getting
engaged.
Same kind of thing.
All right, so we're doing the year in review.
Oh, yeah. Usual year in review.
Okay.
What's next?
You were kind of right about Sean Moore, but also very wrong. Yeah. Because you, I do think there were
people out to get him.
At Michigan when you had that report,
but they kind of were right to get it to out to get him
because he was fucking an assistant and going crazy. Well, that was a obviously a very serious situation with serious allegations.
Oh, you're doing a serious voice.
And a lot of emotions.
I'm just being honest.
Yeah, yeah, no, no, this is smart.
Am I wrong? No, no, make it serious. You're
right.
But you were right and wrong.
That's fine. There were people out to get him,
but they should have been, they should
have been out to get him harder. Well, I understand that point of view.
Yeah. Okay. All right. Thank you. All right. Then we'll close the book on Chiron Moore. There's a very end of a very serious conversation about Chiron Moore.
Yeah, yeah. But as a Michigan man, do you think, do you feel like this is a bad time to be a Michigan man? Institutional chaos is what people are saying. Tough year to be a Michigan man. That all sorts of organizations or sports teams go through, trying times and then it's how they come out of that. And I have never met Kyle Winningham but by all accounts from everybody I've
spoken they love this guy. He's a good dude, great coach. And the funny thing is back in the day somebody texted me about him.
It was in early December and they're like hey can you mention something to Kyle to somebody in Michigan about Kyle Winningham and they sent me this all these accomplishments and I went into Sunday
and Alex Smith was there.
I'm like, hey, what do you think of Kyle WInningham? He's like, love that guy. Love that guy.
I'm like, you agree with all this? Like, somebody sent me like bullet points to this guy. He's like, guys are outstanding. And since they've hired him, I think it sounds like it's gone great. I've never met the guy. The interesting part to me also is
if the Sharron Moore situation had unfolded a week earlier, a couple of weeks earlier, I wonder if they would have been in on Matt Campbell. And if it unfolded two weeks later, I wonder if they would have been on Kalen DeBor because they lost the day before the transfer portal opened on January 2nd. So it's set up perfectly for Kyle Whittingham and the people in Ann Arbor are really excited about it. Yeah, I mean, you guys upgraded a coach just on the basis that I don't think Kyle Whittingham will be DMing chicks during halftime of the Ohio State game. Kyle Whittingham To use your phrase is a serious dude. He's a serious dude. He might be more Michigan man than you. That wouldn't surprise me. That's probably serious. He's certainly more serious than I am. Yes. This is a game called Would you like to correct this tweet? Adam Schefter. We play this game with everybody. Before you even say it, let me just say this. Can we count up in a given year how many tweets there are? Like the ratio of tweets that you don't have to correct?
Yeah, go ahead.
What did I have to correct? Well, here's a tweet. 49ers running back Christian McCaffrey is believed to be the first player in NFL history to be a finalist for MVP, offensive player of the year and comeback player of the year all in the same season. I forgot about Joe Burrow the year before. Forgot about Joe Burrow. It just happened.
We just had Joe Burrow. Was there anybody else or was it just Joe Burrow? I think there might have been some else. But you know what? I called around a couple of people
like, is there anybody else? The NFL did not keep that stat. They haven't kept that.
So if you say believed to be, then it's believed to be believed to be by you. Believed to be, but it turned out
that it was unbelievable.
It's not.
Yeah, it was very temporarily believed that he was.
Exactly. I feel like that was correct. Even somebody else. And corrected. The fact that it was the guy
that it happened to the year before was that was a. The time corrected. Yeah.
Well, yeah, I stand corrected. I'll eat it.
Okay. My fault.
We were going to play another game.
It's called who Won the Beef. Who won the beef? You versus Rapport when... What beef was there? Well, there was the Harbaugh lost locker room beef. Oh, I feel very confident with our report. You said he did not lose the locker room.
No.
And there were also Ravens players potentially
maybe crying when he left.
That's correct.
I would say that you won that beef. I don't look at it as a beef.
I look at me reporting when I'm going to report. Is our Chancey in Rapport is going to be joining you at ESPN soon? I do whatever my employer tells me. That wasn't a question. I have no one knows, no one
has any idea how any of this is gonna work.
Like nobody said to me anything.
I'm gonna keep doing my job as long as they allow me to keep doing my job. I've been there for almost 17 years. 17 years, wow. And I've loved my time there and I've always, not to be serious on you.
Yeah, no, no, no. I always do what they tell me to do.
And I've worked with the people they tell me to work with.
Yeah.
So you should haze him if he comes to ESPN. We haven't hazed too many people.
But he's someone you should hate. That's what you should do.
Put him in a basement, you know, like the kids in Iowa.
Yeah.
You should start hazing. Yeah, let's haze, let's haze rap board.
Yeah, you're combining two giant forces, ESPN and NFL media. I don't think that there's going to
be anything different about like your Don Van Nattans of the world because They're
going to report what they're going to report. I don't think that the NFL is going to tell them, Hey, stop doing XYZ. But there are people that are concerned that ESPN is going to have to be less critical of the league if NFL media is joined in with them. I worked at NFL Network and the only time I ever remember being told I couldn't say something was when I was saying something about about a hoodie that Bill Belichick was wearing and they
were like sponsoring the show or something like that. But no one ever said anything about anything.
And that was when I was at NFL Network.
And certainly at ESPN, I've never heard that from a single person in my 17 years there.
They might get, yeah, I remember people getting mad about somebody referring to the Microsoft Surface tablets as being knockoff iPads. They're like, hey, Microsoft just paid like 600 million. Can we try to not call them iPads if we could try? But I think that, for example, like there's room to be critical of the league for sure, right? Like you've been critical of the league. We've been critical of Roger Goodell in the past. Are you going to be allowed to be like, Hey, Roger Goodell is a buffoon for trying to send a Super Bowl overseas? Are you going to be allowed to
say that kind of stuff? Again, I've never, I feel like I've never been instructed what to say or silenced or influenced or And I don't anticipate that changing. Do you think there are too many international games? Well, now that they're going to be on ESPN, I guess, no. Okay, let's see. He's going to silence right now.
Is there going to be a Super Bowl in another country? Sounds like it's going to go that way. Fuck that. By the way, you don't think eventually that might be a cool thing? No. No, it sucks. It's our game. That's the worst. No, it's not cool. It's ours. Like next year, next year we have the Super Bowl. Right. ESPN. Yeah, ESPN. And it's on February 14th, which is the latest that a Super Bowl has ever been played. And just the idea of that, that it's so late in the year, like
that just starts bleeding.
Like, are we going to the combine the next week? Yeah, I think so. Oh, he's going from LA right to Indianapolis for the combine. Is that how it's going to work?
Yeah, because it's February 25th right now. It's going to be Boof. So you didn't answer the question.
We're going to question. We're going to do a European Super
Bowl and you're going to be okay with that? Well, they've brought
up the idea that a European international Super Bowl one day could be possible.
I have no idea how soon it will be. It doesn't sound like it's anywhere near. I don't want it.
I don't want it.
It doesn't sound cool at all.
It sounds like the worst thing, by
the way, that you could ever say. What is cool is a Super Bowl
On the Sunday night before President's Day,
as late as I don't like the late start to the Swoop. I like an early Swoop like the draft this year. April 23rd, 4th, sign me up for that. That's awesome. Let's get that wrapped up as soon as we can and let's get to May 1 with a relatively clear calendar other than OTAs. That's awesome. Are you gonna be tipping picks this year? Absolutely.
Okay, love that.
Love that. Stand with the 10 toes down.
Yes.
All right.
So can we say like the Raiders, the Raiders aren't on the clock, right? We know they're going to take Mendoza.
I mean, unless some team makes an offer that they can't refuse, which I don't think anybody is anticipating or imagining, you never say anything is absolute, but yeah, we think we could report, we probably could put on the bottom line, Fernando Mendoza expected to be the number one.
So who is on the clock?
When does this draft start? I love when people are like, the draft actually starts. Here's the interesting thing about it is
again, So much of this is always driven about quarterbacks. Like last year, we weren't expecting the trade with the Browns and the Jaguars, with the Jaguars going up to two from six. So the draft starts at two with the Jets. Now, again, I could see the Jets and the Titans both taking pass rushers at two and four. We'll see how that shakes out.
Three is the Cardinals, I believe. I mean, if there's an offensive tackle there, that would be worthy. Great.
We'll see. Just very early, but when does the draft start at two?
Right.
Mendoza goes.
Right.
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It's kind of crazy. I actually heard $1. So report that next time you talk to him. There's a guy from Green Bay that has 10 billion at him. We should, everyone in this room should chip in and then we can come up with the trade offer to go get Max Crosby. Yeah, okay. Yeah, all right, wait, so who's going to buy the Seahawks? I have no idea. Like who has that $10 billion? Because don't you have to put What is it? Jeff Bezos. Yeah. But like there's not a lot of guys out there who have three, four billion dollars in liquid that they can just hand away. Right? You know, listen, you're buying the defending Super Bowl champion. That's never happened. Right? Right.
You're buying an organization that's run very well.
They've a great headquarters, sound structure.
It's a great buying opportunity.
Okay.
Where are the Bears going to be playing?
That's odd, right?
The Indiana Bears?
Yeah, I don't think it's gonna happen,
but we actually, at one point in time, there were people who thought the Patriots were gonna go to Hartford.
And then all of a sudden the deal came through. My guess without knowing the inner workings
of this is that when push comes to shove in the end, somehow they'll figure it out.
I agree, Arlington Heights will be, I'm not actually even thinking they're gonna be play in Indiana. But a follow-up question is how much
of this is pressure from the NFL
being like, hey, we want you to get a new stadium so that the $10 billion price tag becomes real? I don't know how much the NFL
is ever involved in that, but the other owners being like, hey, we all want to maximize the franchise. Just go and look, the stadiums have been one of the biggest benefits to
these teams through time. I remember being out in Denver,
and they had this petition, this drive for
a new stadium that turned out to be, what is it, Empower Field?
I don't even know what it's called. Empower Field at Mile High. So they'd lose old Mile High, now they get the Empower Field, and now the owners are building... Another one. With their money. Right. With their money. Now, you don't see that happening where it's 100% fully financed by the owners,
because somehow these cities have been able to extract public tax dollars. And that seems, I mean that's where these owners have made out big time. Because the value of the franchises have gone crazy and they're getting stadium benefits, tax benefits where it's, there's big benefits
to owning a football team. Do you think that the value of
the Seahawks increased notably because they won the Super Bowl?
It didn't decrease. Right. It didn't decrease. If you were to say, and I don't know, you're not, I'm not an economist or anything, but, like, what, what is winning a Super Bowl worth? It's a great question. The value of that team. That's a great question.
Thank you.
That's a. Thank you.
Appreciate it.
I'd like to ask some people that question. You should ask that question. I would like to know the answer, because if it's significant, then you're going to have idiots like me being like, was this all rigged? So the value goes up like three billion dollars and every other owner. Makes an additional billion dollars in equity for their team. Hold on, let me take somebody right now. Okay. Love that. Let's get to the by the way, congratulations for winning a sports Emmy. I had that on there. See, it's not all bad. It's not all bad.
Oh, before we get to that, no, no, we're done with that. I moved on from that. I moved on from sports Emmy.
That's a great segment.
I threw it in there. How much would you say the value of the Seahawks went up with their Super Bowl victory? Are you texting just AI? I texted. I texted. I texted a guy in finance. Do you do that? Do you do the voice of text?
Yeah, that's.
That was unsettling.
Hold on. I don't like to see you like that.
I don't like to see you like two.
Novembers ago, around Thanksgiving, ESPN is going to play the Harbaugh special. So my family's around. I'm like, hey, wait. And this is back to the sports. Emmy. We moved on. I was like, I thought you were telling me it's about the voice of text. Watch you. The family. Okay, my in-laws are over. And I love my in-laws. They're awesome people. My mother-in-law has no filter.
And so we watched the special, it
gets done, and my wife and my
kids were, oh, it was really nice, really liked it, really good. And my mother-in-law just says, yeah, it was okay. It wasn't that great.
It's exactly what she said.
Good thing she doesn't have a sports career. It was okay.
It wasn't that great.
My wife looks at me, she's like,
okay, well, the piece that wasn't that great was the first time in my
35 years in this business that I've
ever won, a sports Emmy. All I could think of was my mother-in-law.
That's perfect. As I was walking up to get the award. That is perfect. Congratulations though, that is pretty awesome. That's nice because if she ever gives you a compliment, you know she means it. Correct, right? Like if she's cheating on the sports.
Yeah, but you'll get it. You'll get it one day. It's not too late. Only been married 19 years. Haven't heard one yet.
AJ Brown, is he gonna be on the Eagles? You said you lean that way, right? I lean that way. Yeah, I did say that. How do you know I said that? 'Cause I have all the notes about everything you've said.
That's you have a huge step for, right? Look, there's a lot of ways that could go, but there's a huge cap charge if they trade him. And I don't know that they're willing to take on a huge cap charge and get rid of a great player. Now, if the right offer comes in, sure, they're always listening. Is that going to happen? It's going to be tough. I think at one point in time
last year, he clearly would have liked
to have been traded. It didn't happen. I would think he's not traded, but that's what the offseason is for. At this time, if we were sitting down last year, and you get it to me, he's Michael Parsons gonna sign in Dallas.
I would have said, yeah, that deal is getting done.
We wouldn't even broach the idea of a trade. So that's the great part of the great reality show that the NFL is.
Things happen that you don't expect.
And there are twists and turns and drama that allow us all to have
jobs and talk about this sport on a regular basis.
Okay, coaching carousel.
Oh, you got a text back? What did it say? Okay, so here's the answer. Probably 5 to 15%. Already a usable franchise to own, in my opinion. Coach is good, so they'll win for a while. That's probably more, I don't even know how to say this word, ACC RET IV accretive, or maybe he's like voiced a text.
Credited.
Then a one-off Super Bowl win, NBA decision regarding Seattle, Also probably a factor. Ah, so yeah. Five Bennett's gonna buy the team. Howard Schultz.
Yeah. Jordan Schultz.
Yeah. The way that his, his numbs going up. Yeah, that was, that was crazy last year. Right after we got done the fight that went down. I went through a star. I walked through a Starbucks here. I was. Were you jealous that you weren't a part of that? Like, if you were there, would it have gone down different? Would you have stepped in? Or we need to be like, hey, guys, we can't be seen like this. We took a code.
Yeah.
As news breakers. Who's we can't have this. Whose back would you have had?
Oh, I'm all for peace and justice in the American way. Okay, so you're Swiss, let them destroy each other. One less competitor. And then I'm more powerful, yeah. Yeah. Okay, in terms of coaching carousel, real quick, who is the guy who was oh so close to getting a head coaching job that should get one next year? I think Shiel has will get a coaching job next year. And aside from the fact that we had no black head coaches hired in the cycle, that's, That's not a great look.
And Nate Sheehouse is a
big up time coming coach. He's gonna be successful. But 10 openings this year.
Yeah.
You could put it down next year.
Five, six openings next year.
Okay. Not as many.
Not as many. It'll definitely, there's no way they're doing 10 again.
No way. They could. They could do whatever they want. Of course. Yeah, right. They get stadiums. Right, exactly.
Value of friends. They could do whatever they want. They could use as much money.
I, you don't get double digits back to back years. That does not happen. Is there one one hiring that shocked you?
You're like, whoa, did not see that one coming. Didn't think they were going to hire this guy. It always seems to fall into place like a chess board. Like I was flying to the Super
Bowl and the Clay Kubiak news comes down. And then within 15 minutes later, Michael Florio, like you just know, right? It just kind of lays out like, okay, well, Clay is going to go, Clint, Clint plays his brother in San Francisco. Clint is going to go to either Vegas or Arizona. We think everybody thought it would be Vegas. It was Vegas.
Okay, Arizona, Arizona wasted no time.
Mike LeFleur, Cleveland with Todd Monken was interesting. Yeah, that one was a little kind of weird. Well, I think they went through it
and I think they had their eyes
on a lot of different guys and they loved Todd Monken all along and in the end it just came back to Todd Monken.
Yeah.
That's where it finished up. Yeah. What about Tyreek Hill?
Where's he going to be next year? You know, here's the thing about him. As great as he was in 2020, I don't think he's close to being ready this year.
Like he's going to miss some time to open the year. I think he starts the year out physically unable to perform list. When's he going to be ready? Is it the midway point? Is it later in the season? What's he going to look like? And so there's a lot of medical questions. And so I think teams are gonna
be slow to sign him. I don't think we'll get a deal
for Tyree Kill until well into the off season.
That ain't gonna be one of those day one, first of all, he's free right now. He can sign right now. But you're not gonna see a deal quick with him, I don't believe. What's gonna happen with Brandon Ivey? Because he is an interesting case.
He'll be released on the first day
of the league year, I would think. As soon as possible, they're gonna wash their hands with Brandon Ivey. Are other teams scared away from signing Brandon Ivey? Well, I think here's the thing. They had so many trade conversations with
so many teams, and I think that
they probably have gone back to many of those teams, but the math is different, the situation is different, the way he behaved this year with some of the social is different, everything is different. So I think teams are curious, and before they would do anything, they'd want to have to check out his knee because that was its own devastating Yeah, knee injury and they wanted to see where he's at mentally before they would move on so there's a lot of questions there, but we know he's not gonna be in San Francisco. He is he seems like he's in that spot where you just believe anything because it's so crazy It's gotten so
weird like I saw the fake report that he went on Instagram live and
held the ice cream cone and just watched it held it till it melted
for eight minutes straight and I was like, that's fake, but it could be real like that could be real with
how he's acting to driving around the facility and stuff. Like, it's weird. You know, it's honestly a tough situation. Some guys, when they don't have that structure and discipline and the camaraderie and the teammates and the support, when you're away from that, it's not always easy to overcome that. Where did it fall apart? I mean, that's a tough question to answer. Tough question. Yeah. Like, that's what I do. I ask tough questions. Yeah, it's called journalism. Now that you are with NFL media, you're not allowed to ask those questions. Yeah, yeah. We're going after you. No, it just feels like he's, it's been so weird there for so long. I would expect that the market for Brandon Ayuk might not be robust, but
I think in the NFL if you can, if you can run a route and catch a pass, there'll be guys lined up to sign. I don't know what he's physically going to be like this. He was shredded. Yeah. Right? I guess what I'm fishing for, and I'm really just fishing, is can you tell me that the commanders are not going to sign Brandon Ayuk? Well, I can't say that because him and Jaden Daniels are close.
And Jaden may push for him. So I think that's a possibility. And just go back and look at the teams that the Niners spoke to when they're having trade talks, the Steelers, the commanders, the Patriots.
So I would think
all those teams would at least check in on it. Now who's gonna move forward?
That's a hard thing to say.
Yeah.
You said that there's some guys that won't be like Tyreek Hill, not gonna
be a day one guy.
Who are the day one guys this spring for free agency? Well, let's see what happens with Indy. Alec Pierce, I think, is a guy that's gonna get a lot of interest.
Yes, I love Alec Pierce. He'll go quick. I would think that Elijah Vera Tucker
is an interesting guy. Malik Willis, obviously, I would think would move quickly, you know, day or two.
What's going on here? You've set a jet. So let's start the forum. Let's start the Kenneth Walker forum. Can you give me three teams that'll be interesting? Alec Pierce. Patriots, Bills, Colts, obviously.
Trying to think of a wide receiver needy team. I'll tell you who's got cap space Cleveland. Okay. Okay. All right. Town forum time.
We got some questions from the gallery. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is good. All right. Memes, go ahead. All right. Lay it on me, Chef.
Or how fucked are the Jets this
season and going forward for like the next five seasons? Good question. Be honest with him. Don't sugarcoat it. Just a couple Long Island guys. Just stand up guys. Get it. I feel bad for Jets fans. I really do.
It feels sad for you. It's hard. I was walking through the airport with somebody today coming out here and this
guy was telling me how he grew up a Jet fan and all I
can say when I hear that is my condolences. Because I live in an area where all these Jet fans are. I have so many Jet fan friends that are texting me like and they don't understand. With all due
respect, I don't care that they're
struggling.
Like that, I got enough problems of my own to deal with and I have to worry about Who the hell
the Jets are going to sign and
how they're going to get back to the play. Like they're not in a great spot. So how many years?
I don't know.
Oh man, this is not going well memes. Are the Sabers going to make the playoffs in the NHL before the Jets do?
Oh. Are they who?
The Buffalo Sabers.
I don't follow hockey although I did
watch the game on Sunday and that was incredible. Yes, oh wow, because that's like all memes has going they're having a good year. There's the Sabers. Oh no All right, you haven't followed question. Yeah, sorry to disappoint you. No, no, it's fine. I'm always disappointed. Yeah How do you get someone to sell a team? Good question. Talk to Jody Allen. Yeah, let's figure it out I've got some experience in that department. Buffalo right now is in the playoffs if the playoffs They're having a good season. Yeah, they're having a good season. There you go.
Sabers, yeah.
So I was right. Yeah.
Good question.
There's a hockey insider now too. Yeah, you are. All right, Che. Che, you want to apologize to Chef through first?
Oh, that was messed
up.
We texted after that.
You guys made me do that. Chef actually has influenced my home.
We are a Kodiak Breakfast Waffle people now. Love Kodiak. Love Kodiak.
Okay.
Okay.
Chef D, I wanna. I mean, that's just classic Che just being like Chef told me what to eat for breakfast.
No, you're just talking to your own man. Well, we tried them and they're great.
We should take this farther. We should see how many things you
can tell him to do.
They're the sponsor of the Adam Schefter podcast.
Yeah. Okay. All right, a couple of guys I
want to ask and just give me
best guess on team landing.
This guy's not talked about enough, I feel like. Trey Hendrickson.
I think that he would love to be in Tampa.
And I'm not just saying that.
I think he would love to be in Tampa. He lives in Ponte Vedra. I don't think the Jaguars have the
necessary requisite cap room for him.
Okay.
Tampa would be a great fit.
I think in a perfect world, I
think in a perfect world, Trey would like to stay in Florida, if he
could, no state tax, but he's also open to going to the best possible situation. There are going to be a lot
of places that are interested in him.
How about could Dallas afford him?
That would be a great spot for him. Why can he stop the run though? Jerry needs a guy that can stop the run.
Interesting. Jerry needs a lot of things on defense though.
He does, right?
He does. Also, I like that. I think if Trey has picked, he'd like to end up with you. But we'll see if it works
out that way. I'll ask two more quick ones and I have a real question. Two more. Two more quick ones and then a dumb one. That's three more. Well, just headline for agents. Kenneth Walker.
You know, first of all, I said,
and I still believe that it's unlikely
that they tag him.
And again, you just never know how these things are. Like they could look at the market, talk to other free agents, see Zach Charbonnet struggling and decide, okay, you know what? We're going to put the transition tag on him. So we'll see how it shakes up. But my guess is in the end he's going to be a free agent. And if he's a free agent,
where
does Kenneth Walker go? Like Houston makes a lot of sense, doesn't it? Yeah. It does. Like Houston. Houston needs to help CJ Stroud.
What's the best way to help CJ Stroud get one of these front line running backs?
There are a lot of good running backs in this free agent class. The free agent running back class is pretty loaded. So Kenneth Walker, my guess is some team will be offering him enough money to dangle him away.
Follow up on that real quick.
Did we ever find out
what happened with Joe Mixon?
That was
weird.
I mean, no. No. No. It seems like it's something. But you could tell right away, like, I'm just telling you, like, in the summer, I'm calling people saying, Can I report that he's not expected to play this year? And people were like, But you knew it. Right. You just knew it, but nobody would confirm it. Right. It's very weird. It almost makes me think that it's something that we don't want to talk about. No, I think he had, I think, and again, I've certainly made enough calls and enough inquiries, my own theory is he had some sort of setback while training for the off season, some sort of foot injury, and never got better. And I was initially told, nobody ever admitted it, that it was, it was
like a necrosis kind of thing, blood supply. Now, again, no idea if it's true or not.
But that theory was floated to me last summer. Nobody confirmed it. And the one who's near and dear to all of our hearts, George Pickens. Well, that's an interesting one because you're going to see this off-season, big headline. I think you're going to see Puka
Nacua and Jackson Smith and Jake Bob both get paid. Last off-season, if we remember, was the off-season of the pass rush game.
You're not going to get that number of wide receiver deals, but you're going to get two huge deals at the very least. Puka and Jackson Smith. Now, if you're George Pickens, you're probably saying, Hey, I may not be exactly them, but I went to the Pro Bowl. I'm almost as good as these guys. And if these guys are getting 40, 40, what's George Pickens worth? Let's just throw out a number. 30, 35? Yeah. Okay. Well, now, what's C.D. Lamb at? 36 and Dak, he's gonna have to restructure his contract. They need more cap space. It's a tough number to fit under the cap.
So they've got some bookkeeping to do. That's gonna be a challenging situation.
Same agent as Micah Parsons. Yeah. They got to sign Brandon Aubrey, by the way. That's an interesting one too. Yeah, 10 million he wants. Well, he wants a lot. We don't know the exact number, but the highest pay kicker, I believe, is 6'4 Harrison Butker. He's gonna be the highest paid kicker when he gets a new deal. So I think what they're gonna do is they're gonna tender him. And when they tender him, that may give another team the option to go sign him. Now, if you're another team, wouldn't you want the Bears or the commanders or the Patriots to go sign? Brandon Aubrey? Oh, yeah. Yeah. How much do you think Brandon Aubrey would go for, like, in a trade? If you were to assign a draft pick to him? Well, I He could sign the offer sheet when they tender him. And I forget if that locks in the compensation, but to me, he's a major weapon. I don't care what, I could argue that guy's worth 12 million. 14 million. You're paying running backs 12, like Kenneth
Walker may get 12, 13, 14 million on the open market.
So you pass midfield, you got three points in the bank. That's it. Now with Pickens, are they going to tag him? If they tag him, how does that work? If they tag him before the other wide receivers sign their contracts, they'll probably save some money or... No, they tag him, the tag price would be $28 million. But he'd have to sign that to be paid. He's not going to want to sign that because once he signs it, he's obligated to come in and you want
to negotiate a long-term deal. He doesn't want one year. He wants a four or five-year deal, whatever it may be, three, four, five-year deal.
He wants big money. He doesn't want the one year of 28 guaranteed. He wants, you know, the 100 million guaranteed, whatever maybe. So you got the dumb one or is this still the real question? Real question. Real question. Real question. With such a focus on international games, obviously we're seeing more and more the way it's structured now, the Super Bowl
doesn't even kick off till like 11:30 or midnight in a lot of these markets. Could you see the NFL moving it to Super Bowl Saturday? Well, I think that they're moving it more towards Super Bowl Sunday with President's Day so that the country has a
national holiday the next day where everybody could be up late the night before celebrating their team's win, watching Bad Bunny doing whatever they're doing, and then have the next day off at work. I think that's the model more than anything else. Wouldn't that still neglect the foreign markets though? Listen, I don't think it's hurt their business so far. They do want to grow it internationally. Boo. Boo. All right, who else got a question? Come on up. Hank, get there. This is gonna be a good one.
This is gonna be a great one. Hank is locked in.
Drake made the best quarterback from the 2024 draft class. Do you think that's his question? Great. That's a great answer before I even asked the question. I was anticipating the question before it was asked. I have a serious question. I appreciate the sweater. One of my biggest flexes is being
on your Christmas list.
How many people are on your Christmas list?
Ooh. It fluctuates. It's usually about 100, 120, 250, 50. It's an honor. Who got dropped off? People get dropped off. It's a nice life. What's an example of something that somebody
would have to do to get dropped off?
You know, it's more like, honestly, I'm more forgetful. Sometimes I'm like, oh, I forgot that guy.
That guy was very kind during the
year and he helped me out and I forgot to include him.
All right, Hank, your other question?
Yes. Will Stefan Diggs be a Patriot next season? Ooh.
I hate to give you an answer that I don't know. There's a lot up in the air still. Yeah, there's a lot up in the air still. Like my travel plans here, up in the air.
Yeah.
All right, Zach, go.
What's going on, I'm how are you today?
Just got a quick question. If you're ever misinformed, how many strikes
does a guy get before he's out of the network?
Oh.
You know, it's not that it's misinformed,
but I always say,
it's a great question, Zach. Great question. Coaches remember plays and reporters remember stories.
Yeah.
And you remember certain things, how they play out and how they don't play out. Who steps up and who doesn't step up. So you're always taking notes and have little reports on people. It's not that anybody is ever out
of the network or excised, but... Yeah,
if they get something wrong, I'll remember that.
Well, if they get something wrong, then
you know that the next time you're making an extra couple of calls before you're putting something out there.
Yeah.
And if you needed to, how would you go about sending a message to someone that they're out?
No cashmere. Yeah, exactly.
He's just waiting for the gift that doesn't arise. Let's mention cashmere. Let's mention cashmere. Yeah. Katie, do you have a question?
I do not. Okay. He doesn't. Nice job, Katie. Good job. I do not. I have a Washington related question. You reported that Trump is trying to get the new stadium named after him. Is that just like a weight off the clock situation? Like hopefully he'll move on to something else or is Josh Harris? I think that that was considering it. I mean, people were like tiptoeing around that sort of story. I think they're still going through that process. I don't know where that's at. I haven't followed up on that.
So that'd be a great story if
you guys want to go get it. Like that the stadium is not going to be named after him or is going to be named after him. It should be RFK Jr. Ooh. That should be the name of the city.
Actually, just the Coliseum. I think it'd be cool to have a Coliseum. That would be awesome.
It opens in 2030?
I think 2030, yeah. Yeah, the Coliseum would be sick.
And then it's probably gonna get a Super Bowl.
Are we just gonna, what's the future
of the Super Bowl look like?
Let's pretend that the foreign Super Bowl is never gonna happen.
Is it gonna be the same rotation of cities? Are we gonna add in, like, if you get a new stadium, then you're guaranteed to have a Super Bowl? I think most of the time when there's a new stadium, the Super Bowl follows there. But Buffalo's not gonna get it.
I don't think so. That would be very funny. I think so. I don't, it's sort of like, I wouldn't be surprised if the draft goes to Buffalo at some point because that makes sense. The draft is like, it's like, there's not enough hotel space in the city for everything that goes on for a Super Bowl, but we'll give you the draft like Green Bay last year. We're in Green Bay. And that was a great experience, but
I don't think that there's gonna be a Super Bowl in Green Bay anytime soon. I don't think there's gonna be a Super Bowl in Buffalo despite Interstate 90.
But a new stadium in Nashville, I'll
bet you there's a Super Bowl in Nashville.
There's gonna be a new stadium in
Denver, I'll bet you there's a Super Bowl in Denver. There's gonna be a new stadium in Washington, I'll bet you there's a Super Bowl in Washington. And you begin to integrate those places with the LA's, New Orleans, Vegas. It should be Vegas every year. That was a wild one, right?
It was fun. You like that? Yeah, Vegas is set up for that. That's what they're set up for. Hotels, everything. They're set up for a Super Bowl.
What about the combine? Is the combine, is that going to move?
I know it's locked in here for the next two years. Well, you know, the backstory, they put it here initially because it was the center of the country. So this was easy for everybody. That's actually not true, but whatever. Yeah, it is true. Nebraska is the center of the country. If you want to actually go, like, if we're dealing in facts or chef to facts, like what are we doing? Okay. Okay. I don't want to have to correct you next year when, that's fair.
Okay.
That's fair. You win that beef.
Yeah.
All right. Thank you. But they put here because it was in centrally located to a lot of the teams. And hospitals and medical centers. And so that's what this was all about initially. And I remember starting to come to the Combine. It's amazing. The first Combine I ever came to, you could look it up right now, Simeon Rice went number one, Kevin Hardy went number five that year.
So I think that would have been 1993. That was the first Combine, I think, '93, '94. I'm going to guess off the top of my head.
And they used to have literally seven or eight reporters in the lobby of the Holiday Inn Crown Plaza and we'd
wait for the players and you'd ask them questions. I always remember Kevin Hardy, we were asking him about all the weird tests that he took.
You ever hear the story about Kevin? It was one of the great answers. And they said, what was the weirdest question that you got on any of these tests?
And he said, the New York Giants asked me if I like tall women.
I'm like, what'd you answer? He said, I crossed off the T
or not like all women. Nice. I like that. I like that. Yeah. Dog. All right, Chef, this has been awesome. We love having you on. I got one last question for you.
Rowback question.
R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com promo code, take. Love Rowback. Love Rowback. 20% off your first purchase. Love Rowback. Love Kodiak. Or you can't just do all your ads right now. No, no, no. Well, yeah, Robek, I guess. No, I don't think they've advertised. Okay, we got to get you on the row back. Let's get on the row back spot. I love Robek. I love Robek and I love Kodiak and Casweir, we just, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's very nice. Okay, so row back question. Would you love actually, I'm very, next year I'm coming in a shirt advertising. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like a NASCAR driver. Yeah, you did well this year. I think there wasn't a lot of stuff that you messed up. So, yeah, that's good. It was a clean year. Yeah, look back to, I was It is a relatively clean year. Yeah, relatively clean year. But my last question is, are you happy? That's a very heavy question. It is. But I consider you a friend and
I want to make sure, are you happy? I think you begin to be happy in the life that you come to know. I think by and large, I am happy, yes. Okay, good. I want you to be happy. Everybody wants everybody to be happy. Yeah.
Well, no, that's not true.
Hank doesn't want anybody. And I do love the job.
I've done it for 36 years and the job is always evolving and it's a blessing to do the job but
it's also a burden to do the job.
It's just a lot and it feels
like it's more than ever.
But am I happy? Yes. Good. Healthy. Great family. Got two sick dogs. That's bad.
Yeah.
Bad.
But yeah, I would say, I mean, I mean, that's a heavy question. That's a really interesting question. Yeah. Are you happy?
I'm very happy. Are you happy? I'm very happy.
You're happy and handsome. Thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah.
Yeah.
I actually think that you have, you
seem to have a great perspective on things. And if you weren't happy, you would be able to acknowledge that you're not happy and do something about it. You seem like well adjusted as far as insiders go.
Because I know that the life and
job of an insider, it actually, it lends itself to make you to kind of drive yourself crazy with the competitiveness of it. And I feel like you more than most have that, like, you can look at the total, at the total picture and kind of determine what needs to change in life. I think you've done a good job of that. I, that, let me say this. That is a very nice, thoughtful, appreciated compliment, because I think some people take it so, and I take my job very seriously. You have to, yeah. But I also I think I understand what it is, what it's about. And I think some people have gotten very serious.
They don't get that, yeah.
All right, last, last question. Last, last, last, last, last, last question.
What was it like working with Jerry
O'Connell in this fantasy series? One of the great honors of my life.
Yes.
One of the great honors of my life.
Yes.
Did he send you any real dark web shit? But the good thing about Jerry is he's just, he's very calm. He's very reserved. He doesn't need to vape or anything or smoke or anything like that. It drives his wife crazy, right? He's a calm, cool, collected customer. So we didn't win the championship. I think we would like you to remain with you. You're not going to be his manager, but I think you're part of the trusted inner circle of this team. And that is an honor. An advisor. If you do not take lightly.
Yeah. Whenever a team would hire an efficient assistant. Ernie Corsi and give him like $3 million to go hire one of his friends. I am like Troy Aikman to the Dolphins. Yes, yes, exactly. I think we want to keep you honest that because we got to win a title.
Like Jerry, I love Jerry to death, but we got to win a title. Like this is one of those years
where I think if you if you ask before the season, is there a hot seat?
The answer is yes.
Would Jerry rather win a title or an Oscar?
Oh, title.
Yeah.
One is real. Like one he has a chance at. Yep. They're not doing Scream 19. You know, I don't think that's going to be in there. Kangaroo Jack 4 probably. Yeah, maybe Kangaroo Jack 5. Right.
Might be when they take a turn for the serious. No, we're gonna win this year. You will be, when we hand the trophy out like Roger Goodell, we'll let you touch it first. I'm on the podium.
Yeah, yeah.
And guess what?
If we win the title this year,
we're going to 11 in Miami. Mm-. And we're gonna party. And then we're going to ask McAfee to pick up the bill.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then we're going to the White House.
Yes. By the way, my son was down there.
There that night.
At 11:00 at 11:00. And he said to me, it was very weird, 'cause I had this guy that I used to work with at ESPN, great guy by the name of Brendan Kaminsky, and Brendan helped my son get in there that night. And so my son texted me, he's like, Hey, I think Brendan paid for my drinks that night. I said, no, I think Pat McAfee paid for your drinks. Yeah, that's the best place on earth.
Do you know that there are strippers there? At 11:00?
Yeah.
I did not know that. Oh, wow. I just got your son in trouble.
Is that right? Yeah, no, listen, it's not a strip club. It's a club with strippers.
Dancers. Yeah.
Dancers.
Your son saw nipples that night. Your son probably got a lap dance. Maybe. He had a great time. Your son had a great time. He had a great time. Really? This place is a great time.
Your son is happy.
Yes. He's happy. He made memories for life at 11. So that we knew. Yes.
All right, Chef D, you're the best.
Hey, guys, thank you for having me.
Truly appreciate it.
Great honor to be with you.
And I'll bet first, last, whatever you need.
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Max is trying to stop us. Yeah, Hank was just nailing it right now. Oh, that was classic. Max can't have Hank looking that good. Max, classic move. Okay, Fire Fest of the week. Wrap it up the week. Hank, my fire fest is I just gave a great Fire Fest and Max made us do it over because the lights were not.
We'll just put it back.
We can just use that.
We can just use it.
Okay, Fire Fest is that Max has become a terrorist with recordings as part of my take.
Now he's just threatening to edit out everything he doesn't like.
Yeah, I would never.
Well, PFT just. Yes. Last night was like, we have an
all-time altercation that happened on part of
my take last night or today when
we all agreed that we were cutting what happened on.
No, but we talked about it on the show. But you. The way you worded that tweet made it look like the. The altercation happened on.
Yeah, that's my fire. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that my tweet was. I'll get future.
I mean, I know about my tools.
Then everyone just assume that I cut
it without us all talking about it.
I think we should because, you know, combine week's fun. We all come here.
We do big dinners. Great time. I think we got to remember, though, that, like, we're all, we're all partners in this. Agreed.
We're partners. Just a fact. We're all in this together.
We're all in this together, Max. You say you're a partner. Yeah, say yeah, Rico Rico, Rico, Rico, Rico Rico what sound like Bosco youo're
doing some weird Bosco impression.
Why are you doing Bosco bits? Bosco's not not in this room. Bosco big kid just keeps Bosco. We're talking if you think you're a
partner We're talking about Hank being a
great guy mending fences a big Dom.
I'm sorry that I promoted the podcast Max.
Yeah, I did I think a good
job in the gift that I put
out, it was Macho Man and Hulk Hogan shaking hands. They're, I just didn't like that. We've moved past it. We're in good, a good place. But there was something that we, we were basically replaying what happened with Big Dom and Hank.
And, and some people might have pointed
out that, Hank, you might be a little bit of a hypocrite. How so?
Big Dom just exists.
What has he ever done? He exists.
He said, I wasn't allowed in the city of Philadelphia.
He can't exist. He was gonna take me out if I showed up. He can't exist.
So that was a personal threat on me.
So, yeah, I did take that personally. I think it was a warning.
Yeah, that's not a threat. He was being a good guy, being like, you're not well-liked in Philadelphia. I wouldn't set foot there if I was you.
Yeah, but again, it's not like it
wasn't like he's existing. I'm taking potshots at him.
He came at me.
I responded.
Well, you came at him.
First.
You did come at him first. You.
You.
Whatever.
We. We had.
We posted. We're proud of this. I don't know why you keep saying that.
We posted the. The handshake. It's all good. There's a stupid little giggle. You think you're so funny. You haven't even got a smile from any. There's so many people in this room. Smiling right now. He's smiling at me. I am. That was a Max smile, to be fair.
Okay, but.
But I. I. Why did. Why did Max react? You're smiling at Max's reaction. Who's caused reaction? You poked him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we've said from the beginning that
we've been doing this podcast for 10 years. If I can make PFT laugh, he can make me laugh. We're doing a good show.
No one even knows what you're talking.
Like, this makes no sense. What are you saying? Perfect.
For some reason, you've been on edge all week.
It started, I could tell something was up. It's crazy. On Sunday, I was like, I don't think they're going to ban the tush push.
And you were like, yeah, who gives a fuck? I was hungover on Sunday, midday.
Okay.
So that, but you're on edge right now. What happened yesterday was a beautiful moment.
first.
You did come at him first.
You.
You.
Whatever we're.
We had
we posted. I don't know why you keep saying that. We posted.
The.
The handshake. It's all good there. A stupid little giggle. You think you're so funny. You haven't even got a smile from any. There's so many people in this room
smiling right now, smiling at me. I am.
That was a Max smile to be.
But.
But I. I. Why did.
Why did. Why did Max react? You're smiling at Max's reaction. Who caused the reaction?
You poked. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we've said from the beginning. We've been doing this podcast for 10 years. If I can make PFT laugh, he can make me laugh. We're doing a good show.
No one even knows what you're talking. Like, this makes no sense. What you're saying makes.
Okay, Max, for some reason, you've been on edge all week. It started. I could tell something was up on Sunday. I was like, I don't think they're going to ban the Tush Push. And you were like, yeah, who gives a fuck?
I was hungover on Sunday, midday.
Okay, so that. But you're on edge right now. What happened yesterday was a beautiful moment
How do you call that a lie?
Because that didn't actually happen. They had made that up. And Zach was like, yeah, I'm trying to gas up my boys.
That's halfway back to Chicago when Big Dom came in the room, you sprinted away.
How do you know what's acted?
That's true. That's a fact. Also, I was gone for 45 seconds
and I was standing right over there.
Hiding.
Hiding.
Yes.
Yes.
My fire fest is the people that I am in charge of hate me and want me dead.
Dead sleeping with the fishes. Yeah.
Yeah.
But the people that are in charge of the two people that are on big domsider directly report to me. But the people that's something I have
to deal with and maybe address.
But the people that are in charge of you, me, PFT, Zach, we all love you.
Yeah.
Yes. You're protected.
We're good.
You're protected.
It's a big three.
PFT and Zach.
My other fire fest that I, I
dealt with in Orlando and I dealt with last night, we did.
Have a fantastic meal. I've never been more full. I ate a lot, but I have. I've got heartburn issues.
I'm just old.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Woke up middle of the night, severe heartburn.
Thought it happened in Orlando, so I. I. There was a point where I woke up, I was like, am I having,
like, a heart attack?
And I was like, no, it's just heartburn. So last night I was more prepared. But, yeah, I gotta start traveling with
Tums all the time. So let me. Let me do my fire Fest off yours, because it's. It's related, and this is going to be very hard to say.
And I've thought about it a lot,
and I'm ready to say it publicly
because I'm gonna get killed for it. But I think I need to take a break from steakhouses.
I'm just kind of staked out.
They're all kind of the same experience. Every time I overeat, and I've gotten
to the point, too, where I. I order so many appetizers that I don't finish my steak all the time. And it's like, I feel like a. I think I need to, like, just
have a break, like, a two months, no steakhouse. I've just been doing too many steakhouses, and it's the same thing every time, like, why? Why can't we go out to Chinese? Let me, I have found something recently that has changed steak houses forever for me. Everyone doesn't eat their own steak. Oh, I like this. Everyone does here.
I like it.
You get like the tomahawk for a couple people. Everyone gets a couple bites of steak. You don't, that's a good communism. Then you still get all of the sides and everything else that comes with a steak.
But once you see, it's daunting to see a full steak right in front of you. And it's every time, every time it's the same thing. I get there, I get I get, you know, five appetizers. I get the soup, I get the salad, and then the steak comes, and I eat, like, all the bread, and the steak comes. I'm like, I can't eat this. You only need a couple bites of the steak. Yep. I'm. I'm of the mindset now that you don't need any appetizers at steak houses. It's a good place to run zero apps. I don't know. The appetizers. No, because, hear me out, because the sides, you get. You want to maximize your sides. If you look at how good appetizers. At steakhouses compared to how good the sides are.
Sides shine at steakhouses. Sides could usually be crab cake last night.
The crab cake was good.
You just, you don't need the calamari at steakhouses because it's good calamari.
It's never great calamari. But the seafood tower.
The seafood towers are great, but they're never like great seafood towers. They're always good. Good seafood towers at steakhouses is like the best part of the meal.
Sides at a steakhouse are elite. The mashed potatoes are always elite at a steakhouse. The twice baked potato, always elite at a steakhouse. Creamed spinach, always elite. Even the Brussels sprouts that they make there, always elite. Asparagus, always elite. Mac and cheese, always elite at a steakhouse.
You want to maximize your sides to
go with a steak, and that way when they bring the steak by, you're not filled up on like slightly above average calamari.
But
here's my biggest problem is, and again, I love steakhouses. Every time I go, it's the same exact thing. Experience, which is a great experience, but I think I've overdone it where I need to, I need to divorce myself
for a little bit so that I
can fall back in love with it. Does that make sense? Yeah. Like I was thinking about the other night, like, going to Italian meals, great. Going to Chinese, going to Greek, like all these other things that we don't, you know, we're just like, oh, steak
is kind of the auto option that
you pick when you're like, we're gonna go out to a nice meal.
I don't know.
I think I might have to break up with steakhouses for a minute, just for a minute. I almost ordered chicken parm last night. And then I got the chicken part. Yeah, Zach did. And then I looked across the table. I was like, I can't be like, look at this guy. Yeah, I can't be him. It was fantastic. I gotta get a steak. This is steakhouse season, too. But you get to enjoy the appetizers, the sides and the full entree if you go chicken parm. It's something about ordering chicken at a
steakhouse is like, it makes me want to like kill myself. See Andrew Luck. Yeah, and that's what we got here. So I stopped myself. Zach's gonna retire. What are you gonna say? I really think the sharing of, I know you're right, this is the best part about it is you can also order like the best, like, because you're not gonna, you always feel like an asshole if you're like, oh, I'm gonna get the $150. Yeah, Wagyu, blah, blah, blah. But if you're sharing it, then it's like, yeah, we all get a piece of this and we don't over, this is also, I should say this is also coming off of Super Bowl week into vacation, into combine is like probably the stretch where I'm I'm at a steakhouse the most. It's not like I go, like, every
week to a steakhouse, but that three-week stretch is, like, too many.
It's steak season.
Steak season.
For sure.
Okay.
PFT also. I kind of, you know what it is, too? I need the weather to turn because
I want to get back on the grill.
If I could Grill my own steak. Yeah.
You know, it's different. It's different. You always have room for your own steak.
Right. It hits different. So I think that's really what it is. I need to get back on the grill. I've also noticed steak houses.
They're, they're getting heavy-handed with the salt recently.
Oh, yeah.
It's been more salty. Maybe that's just me getting older, but
Hank to your point, like when I
travel now, my backpack is like, you
ever see that movie Flight with Denzel and John Goodman? He's the banana boat guy and he rolls in with all the drugs. That's what my backpack has become except with different forms of antacid. I've got Pepcid AC in there. I've got Tums, I've got Rolaids, I've got Pepto-Bismol liquid.
I have like, it's a far, I'm a walking pharmacy of stomach acid. You know what? You know what the other thing that I realized last night? Similar to the stomach acid and heartburn. Guys always talk about going to a hotel room. What do you do? Put on the robe, maybe get some lotion, jerk off. It's a nice jerk off in the hotel room.
It's something different. I'm now of the age where I
look forward to a hotel room because I can just fucking bomb that place with farts.
It smells so bad in my hotel room. I just sit, I just lay in bed, and just, it's, it's like nuclear warfare going on in my room. Like, it's my room. No one can say anything. I'm just letting it fly. Yeah, it's great. It's good. That's pathetic of me to say, but I don't care. We're all partners. The, the, the non-stomach actually kind of stomach version of my Fire Fest this week is Zach lied to me yesterday. Oh, no. And it sucks because, like, Zach, I love you, Zach, and you've been a great part of the show, and you're
always very truthful, and you try to do the right thing. Big part of the show. Big part of the show. And you kind of lied to me yesterday, and it broke my heart because when I was checking in the hotel last night, Zach came up to me and he was like, hey, just so you know, they got Sundays at the bar until 11 p.m. and I was like, that's a great, interesting fact to know. Thank you for sharing that, Zach. That's something that I do want to know about. If there's like a, at the, at the main focus of the lobby, the bar, they will serve you a Sunday until 11 So we go out to dinner, have a couple beers afterwards with the boys, and went home at about 10:30 thinking about this Sunday at the bar. Went up to the bartender, I was like, Hey. And there were people around, by the way.
And I was like, Hey, I hear you got Sundays. And she looked at me like I had three heads. And that's a pretty embarrassing situation I found myself in. We're now the whole bar just watched this guy come up and order a Sunday. And the lady is like, what do you mean, ice cream Sunday at the bar?
I'm like, oh, I guess I'll just
go back to my room now. And she's like, yeah, we don't have Sundays at the bar. She showed me the whole menu, made a whole thing about. I was like, I was lied to. And I was told that there would be a Sunday here. She felt so bad for me. She took me and she walked me outside the hotel, out onto the street to show me a different restaurant that's down the street that I could go to and get a Sunday if I wanted. But I was like, that's kind of embarrassing. It'd be the Walk of Shame because I just walked past that restaurant. I don't want to, like, walk past a restaurant to my hotel, then turn around and go back to the restaurant to get a sundae. And so I was like, it's really not even the fact that, because she was concerned, I looked upset and I was like, it's not the fact that I'm not getting a sundae, it's the fact that there's a guy that I trust that I work with that told me about the sundae and I feel like he's not reliable anymore. It kind of broke my heart.
Not only did I feed you bad information, I fed you bad ice cream information. Oh, that's true. Yeah, not good. Not good. As a member of the ice cream team, you are the most reliable ice cream guy. We gotta take one of his pinstripes. That's fair. We got to the hotel, looked to the right, there's like a little cafe situation. They had cereal treats out front, so in my head I'm thinking maybe this is like a sweet treat parlor. I go in, no one said it to you? No. I asked the gentleman behind the counter, do you guys have ice cream? He goes, no, we do not serve ice cream, but they do at the bar until 11. And I was like, that's great info for the team. I'm going to tell the team this. Me and PFT are in line to It's not even worth getting into. It's I gave you both ice cream information. It is funny that I even- Did you say ice cream Sunday? Yeah. Yes, Sunday was specific. Sunday was specific. I fed the same information to Hank on our walk home. So he could have very well also went to the bar and could have been to failure.
I ordered seven cookies.
Hold on. And ice cream for the table. Yes, I did.
And then left. Like I was basically eating a personal
giant cookie with ice cream.
It didn't stop me from asking for a Sunday. That's so good. Me and Zach walked home, like, maybe 10 minutes later, and then he's like, I'm going to get an ice cream. I was like, I'm going to bed.
That was aggressive.
Nice cream.
It's a perfect way to end a great day.
We had just done that. Zach, did you get an ice cream?
I didn't get an ice cream.
No, I had run into a different problem when I got there. So we didn't end a great day. Was we did have a giant, you did have a giant cookie.
Well, there's, I do like the idea
of Zach whenever we go somewhere on a trip. Well, somebody's got to just leave all these cookies out. We got somebody's got to take those down.
There was a service advance scouting for us.
We go into a hotel and he
clears the lobby by checking like, okay,
where's the nearest ice cream down here? So we can share that with us later. That's great foresight and pre-planning, but now
when it falls short, it could have
been a disaster last night.
Hank could have gone to the bar too and asked for a Sunday, and it's like, sir, a second patron has requested a Sunday that we're unable to fulfill.
It's like the basement in the Alamo for Peewee Herman.
Everyone's just going up and asking. They're like, there's no basement in the Alamo. There's no Sundays at the Omni.
It was a disaster, Zach.
I got that text last night.
This morning when we got to the
lobby, I went straight to the cafe to look for the guy. Not there.
Not on shift.
Hopefully he's on shift.
I don't know.
I'm so embarrassed.
I don't consider myself to be a fat person. I'm not in great shape, but I'm not overweight.
But it was, It was the most
embarrassing I've ever felt about my health last night, having inaccurate Sunday information and then being sad about it. And that poor lady had to let me down gently. So what was, you alluded to something, Zach, like things didn't work out well
for you when you went for Oscar?
Oh, I ended up pivoting to a different small issue. I didn't bring up, I left my phone charger here, so I had to get, I got banged for a phone charger downstairs trying to look for one. I had to pivot to a recharge.
What does that have to do with ice cream? I was going in for ice cream and then I had a crisis.
If the phone dies, we got it.
You know what I'm saying? You wouldn't wake up in the middle of the night. My brain completely shifted. We have to get this phone back online. One more question for you, Zach.
What's up, Max?
Yesterday we had to be at the office at 6:30 to make sure that we got here on time. What time did you go to sleep on Monday night? I didn't get much sleep on the day. I would like you to further clarify how much sleep that you got. I probably got like two hours of sleep. You went to sleep at 3:30. Yeah, well, he didn't sleep. Here's a question. I like that. Did you make it to 4:30?
No, I'm, I, yeah, we were there on time. This is not on the front of Zach, this is ratting on him. No, this is like snitch. This is a, this is like a pat on the back. Like he's so dedicated to the show.
He was scared.
He was scared of not waking up. So he just didn't go to sleep. It doesn't matter. Did you make it on time?
Yes.
That's all that matters.
Why are you bringing this up in
Fyre Fest if it's supposed to be a competition? Timeout, though, to defend Max here.
Yeah.
The.
Did you not sleep because you played video games too late? You didn't sleep because you were scared that you wouldn't wake up. That's what I was saying. Oh, my God. I was like, you. You need to be commended for this. You were so scared you wouldn't wake up the.
You're like, I'll just not go to sleep. We guys gotta think I was just
I was just over seven days on
the biggest week of the year so
I can't go straight into another another
big week like it's just
like that is commitment.
That's all I was trying to say.
How'd you find out? I'll just blow it up on the
podcast and just expose you.
This that you're the one who took that negatively.
I thought that was just like a funny story for the for the listeners that Zach Zach was so committed to being on time on Saturday or on
Tuesday, he just chose no sleep route, which is great.
We were all supposed to be there
at 7:00, we all got there by 7:00. It was good. Yeah. Good work, Zach. And Zach, to be clear, I'm not
mad about the ice cream thing.
I'm just disappointed.
I let you down, yeah. Yeah, just disappointed. It's because I expect so much from you. Are you a senior member of the cream team? There's a hierarchy chart, but when it
comes to the team or three men
when it comes to maintenance, we've got a front office, obviously. I think he's a general. He and Jacob were generals.
I think Owen's a corporal. Okay, well, they're the founding members. They're the founding members. He was also one of the founding fathers. No, Mincy's, Mincy's a guy who got
shot in the battlefield and we did
not go back and get him.
Mincy's
the last guy that died in World War One.
Yeah, by the way, fun little treat. Everybody out there Google the last person to die in World War One. And just look at the picture.
Obama?
Just look at it.
Last guy to die in World War One.
By the way, I also have one other FyreFest. Last guy to die, World War One.
Not that we were gonna probably get him on Sir Henry Nicholas Gumper. Look at the picture. Oh my God.
Billy football.
Holy shit. It's pretty crazy. Oh man. That's insane. Oh, that's so funny.
Not that we were gonna have a good chance of getting them on, but
I don't think we're gonna get John Shire on because at dinner. So I left the dinner, Hank, when
I left the dinner after the cookies, I went downstairs, the same restaurant, because I was having dinner with my friends Waddle and Sylvie, who do ESPN Radio in Chicago. And some of the other Chicago media. And Sylvie's, like, very good friends with John Shire. Yeah. So he FaceTime John Shire after the win. Duke beat Notre Dame.
Yeah.
And was, like, handing me the phone. It was like, hey, big cat, say hi to John Shire. And I just immediately was like, hey, just so, you know, coach, I will not sleep until we find this UNC staffer.
Yeah.
Who punched one of your guys.
Yeah.
And I, he didn't think it was that funny, so. But also you shouldn't have handed me the phone. Well, also in those situations, me and Big Cat have done things like that. We're about batting a thousand percent on saying the most inappropriate thing to somebody in a situation just like that. Just like that. But we can't help ourselves. It's like, I would feel like such a fraud if I was in that situation.
Right.
And somebody like FaceTime me and brought up, like, I don't know, who's my biggest current sports enemy right now besides Hank? Yeah, if somebody brought up Hank or just like, Drake, it's some put Drake May on the other side. And I was like, Hey, you seem like a great guy. Your wife seems lovely. Love her baking. No, you'd be like, that's a lot of six. I'd just be like, hold your hand
up to the screen.
Let me see if your hand covers
the entire phone, Drake. Those nine inches. Yeah, so it was, John Shuart to his credit did say, I was like, Hey, we'd love to have you come by the office. He's like, if you invite me, I'll come. So I'm inviting him right now.
Okay.
So I'm inviting John Shuart.
And we are also, I'm gonna double down on it. Coach Shire will not sleep. I will not, I'm gonna be like Zach, I will not sleep till I find this guy. You know what? Let's put a bounty on it. Yeah. I will match. $5,000. I'll match.
Okay.
$10,000 if anyone can find the UNC person who punched a Duke staffer after the game. Yep. $10,000 cash. Give us the footage. Leading to their arrest. Yes, we want to arrest them. Yes. We will citizens arrest. Yeah, podcast arrest. Podcast arrest. That should be a thing. If everybody on the podcast agrees to arrest somebody, they should be allowed to do so. Yeah. Virtual arrest or physical arrest?
No podcast arrest.
Audio arrest. You are arrested. You have to just like encircle them
and make them sit down, then they have to do an interview. You've been podcast arrested. Podcast arrest. Zach finishes off. I mean, huge podcast this week was losing all credibility when it comes to dairy. I guess secondary, the default setting for the hotel I guess was blinds open.
Didn't know that so I unfortunately may have given like full nude get ready
with me to whoever was outside of my window this morning.
It was...
Wait, did you sleep with the blinds open? I guess it was dark when we got home.
I didn't really think... You didn't think
to close the blinds?
No.
So what time did you wake up? Sleeping with the blinds open is good.
It's natural, a natural wake-up. Yeah, but I don't want to wake up at the ass crack of dawn. I'll, in full transparency, I give no thought to the blinds until I saw
that they were open. And so what time did you, what
time were you waking up? Like 9:00.
Oh, okay.
That's not bad. That's not bad. That's good. Yeah, that's good. That's a normal time on the road. And then you just let your dong hang.
Yeah. For Indianapolis.
Look, tiny dong, but yeah, luckily if anyone has a tiny dong, Was losing all credibility when it comes to dairy. I guess secondary. The default setting for the hotel, I guess, was blinds open.
Wasn't.
Didn't know that. So I unfortunately may have given like full nude get ready with me to whatever.
Whoever was outside of my window this morning.
It was.
Wait, did you sleep with the blinds open?
I. I guess it was dark when we got home. I didn't really think.
You didn't think to close the blinds?
No.
So what time did you wake up
It's like no golf course.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dress code.
All right.
Max, do you have one? Fire Fest? No, it's been a great week.
Great week.
Really good week for you. You've enjoyed every minute of it. All your boys are partners.
Okay, we'll kick it to ourselves.
Do the lottery ball.
Big Cat, you make me laugh. Thank you. That was very funny. You make me laugh too, BFT.
Thanks, Big Cat.
Okay, time for the lottery ball.
By the way, totally forgot. I apologize. Clocks changing this weekend.
So make sure that you remember that.
Clocks spring forward. Spring back.
Spring back.
Clocks changing this weekend. Make sure you change your clocks. Get that. Do not fuck that up. You don't want to be late.
You know, on kind of a sentimental
note, one thing that I've really enjoyed
about doing this podcast over the last
10 years is we evolve.
So you don't stick, you don't stay doing the same thing year after year after year after year. And I've been really proud to work with all you guys and to see the show kind of change and kind of get smarter over the last 10 years. Big time smarter.
But, yeah, don't forget your clocks. That would be a disaster.
Yes.
So daylight savings this weekend, which means
we get more sun, Hank.
Yeah, you're a dickhead.
What?
Six.
We get more sun.
23.
43. 54.
56.
55. machine almost got it 43. 86. 77. he's right back the same number 10. Zach I need you to be on this daylight savings thing because I can't have you this could you up for a week or two I'll make sure
it's down top of the clocks yeah it's this this weekend. Yeah, write that down.
Saturday night.
We're gonna switch all these clocks. 2 A.M. Sunday. Technically Sunday morning. Yeah, you changed these. All these.
Yeah, technically Sunday morning. Let's get someone on the board. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.
Oh.
16.
Damn.
16. You gotta spread my wings.
16.
Love you guys.
And
happy birthday to. To Luca. Doncic. Happy birthday, Luca. Go ahead.
Have that.
Have that second. No, don't eat the cake.
Have that. Have that extra order. Prime red, Luca.
You've earned it. Foreign
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