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On today's part of my take presented by DraftKings, we got a twofer for the people. We have threefer, three for American heroes Brady Tkachuk and Matthew Tkachuk talking about the gold medal game, everything after. It's been a whirlwind for them. The boys, it was great having them on, and, uh, we break that all down. We also have Seth MacFarlane of Family Guy fame. Ted season 2 is out, uh, I believe it's actually out on Thursday, so go tune in. But Seth MacFarlane, awesome to talk to him. We're gonna talk some college basketball. We are on the precipice of NFL free agency. You can feel the murmurings. I can feel the tampering, the rumors, the tampering. Yeah, We got a lot of guys getting tampered with, a lot of guys getting touched and tampered. Hot seat, cool throne. And then we are finishing the show with— what was it, Memes? What's the exact title of it? Just 10-year anniversary FAQs. Guys on 10 years. There we go. Guys on 10 years. Should be great.

What was the anniversary again? Is it, is it the wooden anniversary?

Yeah, it's something like that.

10 years.

No, 10, 10, 10, 10-year anniversary. 10-year anniversary. Someone thought they were smart when they did that.

Guys on 10, is that the new one or is that the traditional one? Because now they, they switched it up to make more money. Now there's two different gifts.

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Part of my take.

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Yeah, part of my take. Welcome to Part of My Take, presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, March Fourth. And fellas, I think we should cancel the NCAA tournament. Yeah, it's over.

COVID-20?

Nope. Duke 2026. Why are we even playing this?

Yeah, I mean, Duke, it would be a massive disappointment if they lost.

They reached last on Monday night. They played NC State. I thought, oh, this is a, this is a chance. NC State at home, they're desperate. They need a win. No, no, no, no. They were— it was like an 18-18 game. Then Duke just stepped on their throat. This is the best team in the country. It would be an all-time epic failure if Duke doesn't win the national title. I saw the numbers. They are the first time, I believe, that a team has reached, uh, +40 in Kenpom since 1999 Duke, which was the best team ever until they played UConn in the finals and lost. But it's insane how good they are in terms of the ratings, the the rankings, what they're doing to teams. They are absolutely killing teams. They are— if you just go points per game for the last, uh, 3 national titles, or, or sorry, the UConn, uh, 2024 and 2023, Duke is beating them. Their defense is ferocious, absolutely killing. They're +20.6 in terms of points per game, number 1 nationally. This team has it all.

You're a gambling guy, Big Cat, though. If they were that, that favored, why?

They should be minus 120.

They're plus 320.

Now they should be minus 330.

That doesn't seem like that much of a difference.

They played against a really, really, really, really, really good team last night, though, Hank. That's what you don't understand, Hank. The NC State Wolfpack.

What did I tell you, Hank? They reached the plus 40 point in Ken Palm. The again, the last time a team reached plus 40 was 1999 Duke, one of the best teams of all time. Again, they did lose the national title to UConn. I hate that I have to keep bringing that up, but it did happen. And then the next closest team was actually Duke last year, +39.29. That team, if you play the tournament 1,000 times, they probably win it 999 times, wouldn't you say?

So, so Michigan this year is actually better than Duke last year in Ken Palm.

Yeah, but Duke this year is better than Michigan this year.

Correct. Barely.

But also, there is maybe some noise to be said about Ken Palm. I love Ken Palm, it's a great tool. They do do this based on the average college basketball team, and because of NIL and transfer portal, the average has gotten worse. So there will be maybe inflated numbers going forward, but that is irrelevant. That is counter to my point. I would say the best team and they're going to win it all. We should cancel the tournament.

And this goes along with what you're doing to Duke. But yes, if they lost—

if they lost this year, what am I doing?

Well, no, I'm tying in the narrative. If they lose this year, that would without question be the best 2-year— like, they'd be a dynasty of chokers.

Correct.

Like back-to-back all-time choking losses in the NCAA tournament.

I hope that doesn't happen.

We would have never seen anything close to this before, like losing this. That's like Germany in wars. Yeah, middle of the century, like two massive, massive favorites that just completely blow it.

And I hope that doesn't happen because I'm willing to stake the podcast reputation on Duke winning it all this year. Now, if they don't win it all, will we have to say, sit here and be like, hand up, we fucked up, we got it wrong again when we said it was Duke's year again?

I think Hank should get a cat.

We would have to do that, but we're— we're— we will do that if we— if, if it— if unfortunately Duke does lose.

So all-time choke, like, I think it would be the biggest— like a 9-point lead in the championship game and losing the game level choke.

I think it would be the— okay, Hank, I see there. I think the—

I got to look.

Well, that up, see if that's happened in history.

I think it would be the biggest—

oh, it did, 2015.

I think it would. Yeah, because Coach K went and paid off the rest. That's fine.

Oh, against Butler.

One foul, actually against Wisconsin.

Yeah. Oh, Wisconsin had one foul going into halftime. Oh yeah, we're going to blow the whistle. I honestly, I don't want to be hyperbolic here, PFT, because we don't make those type of statements. We're kind of, you know, middle of the road podcast. We don't make crazy takes. I think it would be the biggest sports story of all time if Duke did not win the national title this year. All time. All time story. Like, I'm talking every name of sports story. Even adjacent sports. O.J. and the chase and the murders. That's an adjacent sports story. It would be bigger than that.

Bigger than Deflategate?

Bigger. Bigger than Lester City? Bigger.

Aaron Hernandez?

Bigger.

Spygate?

Bigger. Duke not winning it all this year would be the biggest, the most consequential sports story of all time. Not our lifetimes. Of all time.

What about the equipment manager from the New York Giants that kept throwing like practice helmets down the stairs to make them appear game worn? And then he got away with it at the end.

Okay, that one might actually—

that's a massive story.

That was a massive, massive story.

Nobody talks about that.

Who could forget that story? Uh, listen, Hank, why—

I do, I do think if you look at the totality of the last 2 years, what Duke has, what they've put out on the court, it's crazy. It would be kind of shocking if neither one of those teams won.

Hank, what do you—

it's March. All I hear is this is March, anything can happen. It's no beauty of the NCAA tournament. The stats you just gave also like counter counteract your argument.

Why?

Because you said they're the best team, but the other teams that you named also lost.

The other Duke teams? Yeah.

So there's change. Also lost? Yeah.

Oh, that's weird. I didn't realize that.

But that's proof that anything can happen.

I think—

wait, so that means that two of the other best teams of all time were Duke and they lost?

It's almost like there's a system or a trend that we've—

I'm just— I'm a numbers guy. You know that. I'm a stats guy. I bring the stats. You— this is what Hank does too. When I say a stat, he just fucking picks it apart. And goes crazy on it.

I think that this might be the year for Purdue. How about that? I think that Purdue— no one's talking about Purdue. They've been hovering around the top. They— every time they, they, they start to be discussed in the media, it feels like they lose their next game. I'm gonna say Purdue. My money's on Purdue or Nebraska this year.

So also, Wisconsin was better Ken Palm rankings in 2015 than who? Then Duke.

But not this year's Duke. We're talking about this year's Duke. I don't know why you keep going in the past. I'm just—

I'm just—

historical stats. It makes no sense what you're talking about.

I'm just—

it's—

there's—

but we're— let's stick to right now, right here. Got it. We're talking about right now, right here. And I'm only talking about teams that are +40 or close to +40 in the Ken Palm era.

Got it.

And that would be Duke last year and Duke 1999, both teams that did not win the national title. But again, these are stats. I don't know why you're, you're getting upset about this. I'm pro-Duke here. They're going to win it all. What, Max? You watch college ball. There's no team that's even close.

The one thing I really want to note is Zach had no idea. He turned to me while you were doing this. He's like, is Duke really that good this year?

They are, Zach. Zach, they're the greatest team ever. This Duke team better than the Zion team? What? Wait, no, that Zion team. Did they win a— No. Oh, shit.

They're really good.

Yeah, because they're going to— this team's going to win a title, by the way. Shout out Arizona as well. They clinched the Big 12 on Monday night.

Pretty impressive.

Can I say, though, and this is stupid because it's when our— and we don't do bits on this show. I think everyone agrees we give it straight to the listener. But, you know, we've talked about Mark Few before. Can't win the big one. Can't get to the Final Four. Tommy Lloyd being a Mark Few disciple, even though Arizona is really, really, really good.

Yeah.

I'm just like, that guy's going to choke at March.

Well, that's— it's a good school to talk about with that. Like, you go back throughout the years with Arizona and you had guys that were legendary coaches there that, that could not get to the Final Four. It took them a long time. It's one of those schools where it's fun to be like, I don't know if Arizona could do this.

Yeah. Yeah. But it would be— would Mark Few get to share in the first Final Four if they went?

I think so. I think that if, if Arizona goes to the Final Four, you have to give credit where credit's due. And that would be, yeah, the Godfather, Mark Few and his two dogs. Yeah, his two dogs are sitting in the front seat somewhere. Front seat for a DUI sniffing dogs. Like, there should be a dog that you can have chilling in your car. You get in, you're above a 0.08, your dog just like bites you and won't let you turn the ignition of the car on.

Yeah, I'm nervous. I don't. This is the point of the show where I don't know if Hank has— there's two options. Hank has one checked out, or Hank is deep in the lab of looking up stuff.

I got him.

He's trying to look up stuff.

I got to be honest, I don't—

powerful, which also could quickly turn into just checking out because you weren't able to find the stuff.

I don't think that Hank is locked in on college basketball. I don't think he will, because I think that's going to start like once tip-off of Thursday, then Hank will.

But in Hank's defense, why would he be locked in? It's a foregone conclusion. Coming from me, win.

I'm locked in on college basketball, Hank. Yeah, ever since the Super Bowl. I listen, I'm not a guy that has room in my brain to care deeply about college basketball while college football and NFL football is going on. There's just— it just doesn't work. I can try. Doesn't work. So my cycle, which I have every year right after the Super Bowl is over, I get heavy into college basketball. So yeah, I am. I'm big time into college basketball right now.

Big time. It's big time.

I told you. I told you my picks. I got It feels like the visualization pick of Izzo in his last year going back to a Final Four. Feel like that's going to happen. I like Houston a lot. I've been timing the Cougars. I think I timed them perfectly. And then obviously you've got the juggernauts in Nebraska and the other juggernaut, Purdue. Purdue, just winning cultures. All right, Hank, he's locked in. That's my Final Four right now. I don't care what the bracket says. That's what it doesn't matter if they're all in the same region. Doesn't matter. They're going to—

doesn't matter.

Life finds a way.

Yeah, I actually think I should probably donate my ticket from Florida and UConn because what's the point of having it, right?

With Duke? Yeah.

Yeah. It's like, come on, just throw it out. The, the other, the other college basketball story that I saw. Did you guys see the Big 12 court? The Big 12 court for the conference tournament. Do you see it?

I have not seen it yet.

Pac-12?

No, the Big 12.

The Big 12 court is sick.

The Big 12. Colorado's in the Big 12. In Arizona State's in the Big 12.

Oh, I saw that. I saw, I saw it was Arizona State.

Uh, it is a glass court. That was, that was perfect in the— you guys had an art— you guys had a, uh, who doesn't watch— who watches college basketball off? Yeah, PFT's like, I didn't see it, and Hank's like, Pac-12? Because Colorado—

well, I saw Arizona State.

Yeah, they're in the Big 12, for the record.

I also was not—

that's been a big college story. Pac-12 just doesn't exist anymore.

Does not exist. Well, it actually does.

Well, yes.

Yes.

And it's actually growing.

It's the Pac.

Gonzaga.

Yeah.

Gonzaga is going to be in the Pac-12 next year.

I didn't know that.

Yeah. That was the last, uh, talked about regular season game. Yeah. Got you there. Hit him with the 2. Hit him 2 with the forehead.

No.

Yeah. We're done with that. Uh, so the Big 12 court, this new technology, it is glass. And they can change it in a click of a button, like they can change it from one home court to the other. I, I hope and pray that they can play potentially like another game on the court while the game's being played. So if let's say Kansas is blowing out, uh, I don't know, West Virginia, and they're like, this game's boring they can then play the SEC game on the court so you can watch that.

Like, it's like a TV. Yeah, yeah.

And that would be, that would be perfect for our attention spans, would it not?

Yeah. If you got two old coaches and the game sucks, just turn into a pickleball court.

Yeah.

While they're playing.

So I did see the funny joke. Someone said that, uh, they're gonna make it look like it's not a basketball court just so Darren Peterson will actually play.

Just hologram Darren Peterson.

No, no, no, trick him into being like, this isn't a basketball court. And then so he's like, oh, okay, I'm, I'm down to be on this.

Well, what they would have to do is they would have to have it be an NBA court.

Yeah.

And just, he would have pretend that he was in the league now. But I don't understand if they put like— if they put grass.

Yeah.

Or if they made it look like asphalt on the court.

I kind of want— I mean, is someone gonna hack into this? Because that would be very funny.

It would be very funny if— yeah, like Arizona State's playing and it's just porn.

It's just porn going.

It's hardcore pornography on the court.

And then you get— I also don't understand how it doesn't break. It's glass. I don't understand anything. Yeah, it's— how is this— is it going to be slippery? It has to be. It's glass.

Yeah, the glass part doesn't make sense.

Makes no sense.

We fall on it, it just shatters into your elbow.

I think it's pretty thick glass, but still, when I, when I hear glass, you shouldn't be playing on that.

Yeah.

So that's the new Big 12 court and they're going to use it for the Big 12 tournament.

They're trying to make everything the Sphere. Yeah, that's what they're doing. Like, this is the Sphere just in basketball court format. They should— if they want us to watch, they should turn into a football field. Yeah, like put the, put the yard markers on there. Give us the yellow line.

That would be cool.

Give us the shield at half court.

That would be very—

I would watch that. Yeah.

So we're, we're getting closer and closer. The brackets are—

did Hank think that this is the Pac-12 tournament?

He thought it was a Pac-12 tournament because he saw Arizona State and Colorado. Yeah, that's okay. That's okay. He's still deep looking into— I don't know what he's about. He's got to hit us with something.

I'm looking up the ASB glass floor.

Oh, okay.

Okay. Can you find us some?

They did it for the NBA All-Star Game in 2024.

Is this the one that Luka was complaining about slipping on? So this seems like a problem because they're going to play a shitload of games on this.

Unders?

I don't know. Maybe.

Or does that favor the offense?

I have no idea how this— do we need a glass court here?

Yeah, we do.

I think we do. And I think we need to get the glass court.

It'd be sick if it was like NBA Jam TE where like a part of the court lit up and then all of a sudden that's a 4-point shot from around 2 and a half feet.

Half milli.

But our— but we have a smaller court.

True.

So got to be like more closer to 2.

Yeah.

Or high school. Oh yeah, look, see, the, the All-Star Game went over by, uh, they scored almost 400 points, so we got to take the over. Glass courts. Okay. Um, congrats memes, Breece Hall franchise tagged. That's a good move. I think it's a good move. Yeah, right.

So Seahawks are moving on from, you know, the Super Bowl MVP running back.

But wait, are they officially? Who, the Seahawks? Yeah, yeah, they're, they're not gonna sign him.

They're gonna sign Kenneth Walker, not gonna tag him.

But you know, you got to keep good players.

Yeah, yeah. So you're gonna try to tag Breece Hall and then try to negotiate while he's under the tag?

Yeah, extend him 3 years. The only question I would ask you, Memes, about is it a good move is David Montgomery went for a kind of a nice haul for a 28-year-old running back. So David Montgomery got traded to the Texans, was a 4th and a 7th. I think Rapoport and Schefter got it wrong.

Not a 4th and a 7th, Big Cat. It was, it was, it was pretty much a 5th.

Okay.

It was pretty much a 5th because Rapoport tweeted it out and he said, uh, yeah, it's for a 5th round pick. And then he had to correct himself and said it was a 4th and a 7th. So yes, essentially 5th round value.

Okay.

So I was right about my wrong report.

5th round value.

Yeah.

And, uh, so yeah, they both tried to rush to get it. This was, this was predictable in the fact that we talked about it during the season, that David Montgomery, like, towards the end of the season, he, he was getting— he was averaging like 7 carries a game and they just weren't using him. He was frustrated. He still has some good years left, I would assume. Good for the Texans, although I don't understand the Texans strategy of just constantly trading away offensive linemen when they stink at offensive line. I know Juice Scruggs is, uh, you know, is not going to be an elite— he's more of a depth guy. But still, you would think a team that's like, hey, if you could point to one thing the Texans need, it's offensive line, and they've now traded offensive line in two back-to-back offseasons, right?

But Larry Mitonsel actually had a great year this year when they traded away What do you mean? They traded away Laramie Tunsil.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah.

But that's, that seems counterproductive for a team that needs offensive line.

If you, well, a lot of the Houston Texans offensive linemen have been very bad at playing offensive line.

Right. But they keep trading them.

Yeah.

That's my point is like, so you want to, you would think that you'd want to hold on to some of the things that you're really bad at for just depth's sake in order to, to hope that they get better.

Like they can't be as bad as they possibly have been in the past.

What?

They also traded another one to the Eagles last year. I can't remember his name, right? He got cut within like a week.

But that's kind of my point. I know that they're not good, but it's just very funny to be like, we really need offensive line help and yet we also are going to still keep trading them.

I think you just need to say if you're the Texans, like, the more people we have playing offensive line for us that haven't played for us in the past, the better, because it hasn't worked out. Chances are anybody else will be better than the guys that we have. Breece Hall, as like a, as a franchise guy, do you think you're going to trade him? Or you're hoping that he gets traded, memes?

No, if you sign him, you keep him.

Yeah, you want to hang on to Breece for the long term. He's one of the guys that I feel like, I don't know, with the age of a running back in terms of when they kind of lose their window, if I was a Jets fan, I would try to get as much as I could for him and then have him go somewhere else. Like, I thought that he was going to be traded last year.

No, I agree with you, but that's my point with the Seahawks moving on from Kenneth Walker. That's a good franchise, just won a Super Bowl. He was your Super Bowl MVP. They're letting him go because they—

the value of the running back isn't that important. Yeah, I heard a wild take this morning on the way into work. I heard that the Jets should trade 3 first-round picks to move up 1 spot and get Mendoza. I feel like that works. Would you do that?

You do that?

You would okay that, Mims?

3 first-round picks? Yeah. With the, with the QB draft next year? Yeah, I mean, the thing about the QB draft, every net— every QB draft is the best one that like one year later. No, but this year's like not a strong one.

You got one guy.

Next year is going to be a strong one.

But they said that about this year.

What do you mean?

Last year they said this year is going to be the best.

Yeah, but a lot of guys didn't come out. The best one, Arch didn't come. So, Mims, you're saying Klubnik stinks? Yeah, no, Aller stinks.

Nussy was sussy.

Nussy stinks. I mean, they all just kind of stunk. I guess your point is correct that they could all stink again, like next year's crop could stink.

So it means you're saying that you would give up the second pick this year and then your— what's your second first-round pick? Is that like number— what number is that this year? Yeah, 16. So you give up number 2, number 16, and then your first pick next year. To trade up and get Mendoza, to get Mendoza, move up one spot. I would do that because you still have two first-round picks next year. You know what, I, I think I probably would too if I was the Jets. I just don't think that the Raiders would ever do that. No, it's like the Raiders, they need a quarterback and they have their guy. They're there.

That's also a, um, like a, a job security situation where Fernando Mendoza is really good, then you're screwed. Oh yeah, you're absolutely fucked if you traded him away.

There's also a quarterback that's moving up as he threw at the combine and he looked good. He impressed some scouts. Ty Simpson is now being talked about as being a first-round pick. It's always the guys that get better at football the further away they get from playing football that make me scratch my head. I don't think I would use a first-rounder on Ty.

Can I throw someone out for Ty Simpson who might draft him? Maybe. You throw a team out?

Yeah.

Philadelphia Eagles.

Hmm, interesting.

I think they might draft a quarterback.

You think so?

You think they're going to take first round?

No, probably not first round, but what if you fell to the second?

What if you fell to the second?

Like, there's been a history in Philadelphia of drafting guys in the second round when you don't really necessarily think that they're in the market for a quarterback.

Teams draft quarterbacks every year.

That's true.

That's a fact.

Backup quarterback. Fact check. Correct.

Backup quarterbacks are very valuable position in football.

Why are you trading yours away then?

Because starting quarterbacks are more valuable. So if you can get starting quarterback value for a backup quarterback, you take it.

Now it's like you got 2 quarterbacks.

Yeah, but then if you lose, if you lose your backup quarterback, you got to replace a backup quarterback.

The report came out that the Eagles are looking for a first round pick for AJ Brown and a top 100 pick.

Yeah.

2 picks. That seems pricey.

That's the price.

That's the price.

That's the price.

How do we set the price?

If you don't—

if you don't want to pay that price, if you have to ask, you know, we have to keep them.

Yeah, I like that. That's a good— that's good. Good thought process.

And then the odds have shifted on Max Crosby. So Max Crosby now odds-on favorite is the Bears.

So I don't understand these—

-110 to play for the Bears next year.

I don't understand these markets because it feels like I saw it. On Bears Twitter, there are a lot of people being like, it's gonna happen any minute now. Is that— does everyone just go rush and bet it? Because it can't be— it feels like the next team markets can be manipulated. Not manipulated, but they are very, very fluid based on just like one tweet can just change everything, or it can just be one bet.

So after we had Rossini on, I did bet the team that we edited out And then that team just shot up in the rankings.

Yeah.

After one bet.

Yeah. So it does feel like they're, they're, they're very, very fluid.

It's really, it's very easy for one shithead to complete. Yeah. To manipulate these markets.

I would be pumped if it was Max Crosby to the Bears. I'd be very, very pumped.

Yeah. He's amazing.

Really, really good at football and would be instantly make the Bears a really, really good defense.

And he knows the area. He knows the Midwest. Yeah, I've seen people say that, like, he could look forward to go to the Lions potentially because he knows the Midwest.

And him and Caleb doing a podcast together that he went on— Caleb went on Max's podcast.

So everyone's like, well, they're friends.

Yeah, we're actually friends with everyone who's come on this podcast. This is Seth MacFarlane.

That's a fact. Great friends. Great guy.

Fact. Okay. Anything else before we do who's back of the week or— sorry, hot seat, cool throne? Do we have any other— oh, I guess we can get to it on Hot Seat, Cool Throne, because that was the World Baseball Classic is coming.

Yeah. People kind of forgot about that.

Did you guys see Aaron Judge's speech?

I'm ready to roll, man. I'm ready to fucking go.

That was one of the worst speeches of all time. If they're—

what?

Don't put that out. If you're World Baseball Classic, don't put that out. I think they're trying to get a little bit of the buzz from the Olympics. Team USA would have lost the gold medal game if someone stood up and gave Aaron Judge a speech.

The thing is, what was the exact quote? In baseball, it's like you don't need— right, you don't need a guy to give you a rah-rah speech 3 days before you start playing a baseball game.

Well, it's like, get me pumped up so I can run through a brick wall and then go stand with my hands on my knees. Yeah, for innings at a time while the ball doesn't get hit my way. You're sacrificing for the brothers.

And when does— when is their first game?

Thursday?

Friday.

Friday?

Brazil.

So this was— this was 4 days before their first game and Aaron Judge giving a pop-up speech.

Well, you don't want to get the guys too emotionally out of control close to first pitch.

But you know what? The more I think about it, if this is the speech he's giving on Monday, imagine how great the speech is going to get by Friday.

Yeah. By the way, did you see that? Canada just is so desperate for a win in anything that Team Canada's playing against the Toronto Blue Jays on Wednesday as a warm-up so they can just get a win. They need a win. Some— Canada will win.

It's very sad.

One way or another, Canada will win.

It's extremely sad.

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Cool.

Breaking news. Breaking news. What do you got, Hank?

We got a retirement.

Yeah. Saw it. Bad.

Bears center.

Bad.

27 years old.

Oh, is he hibernating or retiring? He's out.

He retired. Drew Dallman.

Drew Dallman.

Yeah. Retired. Shocking news.

4 seasons in the NFL. Um, was he good?

Very good.

He's a good player.

Really, really good. One of the best centers in the league. Pro Bowler. What's up with Stanford? Listen, all right, well, there's two things.

Let's talk about it.

What's up?

What's up? Are you talking about Sam Schwartzstein?

I'm just saying, like, the early retirements in the NFL— Stanford.

Yeah, they're too smart. I— there's like two things go. The first instant reaction was fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Then you have to be a human about it and realize, like, hey, the guy's able to walk away while he still feels healthy. That's awesome for Drew Dallman. And then it's right back to fuck, fuck, fuck, because the Bears a month and a half or whatever— I don't know how long the— I don't know how long the season— what is it, 2, 2 and a half months ago, the offensive line was a significant strength with Trapillo still playing left tackle. He tore his patella in the, in the game against the Packers, and Drew Dallman at center. And now they go into the draft and it's like, fuck, we need not only a lot of help on the defensive line, but we also one of our strengths, the strengths of our team is now something that needs a lot of holes filled. And the center position, very, it's very important in every team. But Ben Johnson had a really good center in Detroit and he had a really good center in Chicago. And now fuck, fuck, fuck.

I mean, if you had to pick a time for him to retire, this isn't the worst time. It's like the start of free agency. So you know what you have to do for free agency, for the draft.

Oh, for sure.

He didn't like hold it out until— but it was later on when maybe some guys get off the board.

He's 27. You're like, oh, we finally have a really good center. We have a really good interior offensive line. The Bears have something that you need to have a strength at. They finally did it right. That was the entire focus of last offseason. They nailed it with an awesome offensive line this year. And now you're back to— I mean, you still have Tooney, you still have Jonah Jackson, you still have Darnell Wright.

You guys have offensive line issues.

This year? No, we had very good—

pretty good line this year. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, the left tackle was a position that was kind of— I mean, we were— Ozzy Trevilla was a rookie and he was working his way in and then he got hurt. But yeah, the interior of the offensive line was like the strength of the team. That's why we were able to run the ball so well, uh, down the stretch.

But yeah, so there's some good centers that, that could be available. One is Biadisz. He was on the, uh, Commanders last year and I— you said that the Bears are talking to him right now.

He's, he's at Hallas Hall right now.

He's a good player. He's a very good center. I was surprised that the, the Commies moved on from him because I thought he was a, he was a great asset for us up front. And then obviously the, uh, the Ravens haven't had an extension with Linderbaum yet.

He's going to cost $20 million.

Linderbaum is going to be an expensive, expensive replacement. I personally would love Linderbaum.

The, the other part, and I don't know how this works, but it does feel like you were maybe gearing up to get Max Crosby, and now with another hole that you have to fill via the draft or free agency. Like, is that— is that— I don't think it's one for one that Drew Dallman retires, you can't do the Max Crosby trade, but the picks become that much more viable or valuable because you have another hole that you have to fill. And that sucks.

They got extra homework. They got extra homework dumped on their desk the night before free agency.

Fucking sucks.

That's tough.

Happy for Drew Dallman, but damn, maybe please come back.

You're still definitely in the bargaining phase.

Oh yeah.

It's like maybe if we just tell them like, hey, we love you.

I texted—

don't you love— ask ask him if he loves football.

I texted Sam Schwartzstein right away, our friend who knows all the Stanford guys. He went to Stanford. And I said, could you please, in the nicest way possible, ask Drew Dallman to think about unretiring?

If it were me, I just—

that was nice. It was a nice way of asking.

If it were me, I wouldn't— I would never quit football, man. Never.

This sucks.

He was about to make a shitload of money. I don't know how Caleb Williams potentially—

what? I'm just asking. I was trying A sinner killer.

I don't know.

Oh, you think that's what happened?

I'm not sure.

He said his tweet was damn Hulk with a crying face. So I think— no, I don't. I don't think so. I think he was— from the reports I've read, this has been something he's been thinking about for a while. So—

but I think what Hank said, maybe he loved him too much.

Maybe.

Is that what you're saying?

We don't know. It's, you know, it just happened and it's very hard to ask all the questions.

Grieve for a second.

He didn't say pause when he went under center fast enough. Is that what you're saying?

I don't know. I'm just asking questions.

I would say the only, the only small silver lining is that he wasn't And when we fixed our entire offensive line, he wasn't one of the guys we traded for. So we signed him. So he didn't trade up, trade picks. He got him from Joe Tooney retired, right? What?

He was, he was on the Falcons.

He was on the Falcons. But if Joe Tooney retired, that would be like, hey, we also traded for that.

And good for Dalmon.

Also, Joe Tooney's the man. So please don't retire. Please don't have this.

If I remember, I think Dalmon, that, that was his second contract, right? So he was under his rookie deal for his entire time when he was on the Falcons.

He was on the Falcons for 4 years.

He got paid a decent amount there. Last year was like the first year that he made correct big league money.

Correct.

And, uh, yeah, so I guess he's—

yeah, he made $18 million last year.

He's just ready to walk away. And then, yeah, the other news, Daniel Jones transition tag, which is my understanding, the transition tag is you get the average of the top 10 players at your position. So he's going to be making a lot of money on a 1-year deal for the Colts, but other teams have the opportunity to negotiate with him, and then the Colts have the opportunity to match any offer that he gets. Yeah, I think that's what the transition tag means. Did I get it? You're a capologist.

You got it. Yeah, you're spot on.

Okay. Fuck. Yeah.

All right. Final, final thoughts. Fuck, fuck. One more. Fuck.

My final thoughts.

Got to, got to find a center. Maybe Linderbaum. Hopefully still Max Crosby, but it feels— fuck.

My final thought. That's baseball.

That's baseball. That's porn.

What's that?

That's the other one they say.

Oh, porn. Yeah, I know when I see it. Yeah, it's baseball.

Okay, Hank, hot seat, cool throne.

My hot seat was going to be Aaron Judge.

Oh, I apologize.

I, I'll go with any, any golf course that was in the running for the 2045 U.S. Yeah, this is tough.

I thought it was going to be Congressional.

Yeah, it's going to be the Inverness Club. So 2045, Toledo, clear, clear schedules, book your stuff.

They got ready to go. That's tough. It's like college football announcements where they schedule out of conference in like 2050s, these tournaments that like 2046 is a year that I don't think is going to happen. That's like 20 years from now.

No.

And the announcement was like the return to like a— it's like it's, it's not returning there forever.

So 2045, how old are we going to be 20 years from now?

So 61, 19 years from now. 61.

Yeah. Damn.

60, 61. Yeah.

Hank, you'll be 50.

Yeah.

Oh, oh man.

You should be able to bet on these.

On what?

On who's going to win.

2045 is so— my kids are going to—

what's Scotty's kid's name?

Going to be in their 20s.

I mean, this, this feels like it's—

or Max's kid.

Yeah, maybe.

Brooks's kid, Blake Kapka.

Blake Kapka. Yeah.

Maybe one of my kids would be in it.

Yeah.

Or, you know, standing with me in the gallery watching.

Can you just imagine Tiger, like, in the grandstands, like, walking up, hugging his kid on 18?

This might be— this might— this might be Charlie's last major.

This is Charlie. This is Charlie Woods.

Charlie Woods's last major.

Charlie can— people are going to be asking if he can win the big one.

Yeah.

Going into Inverness. And then Tiger's going to be there watching him, maybe breaking his dad's record.

Yeah, this will be the one he breaks.

What a moment.

Why did they announce it so— do we have all the way till 2045? Yeah, we do.

Yeah, rip off some US Open.

I know we were— Shinnecock is coming up again. I think it's this year, right?

We've got a couple Pinehurst, Shinnecock, uh, it's gonna be at Pebble Beach.

Good segue, Pebble Beach 2027. The Pebble Beach, uh, our me and PFT Spyglass video is coming out on— I think we're gonna do it on Sunday.

Okay.

Wingfoot.

All right, so there's 20.

All right, 28 is Wingfoot, uh, 29 Pinehurst.

Okay.

30 Marion.

Okay.

31 Riviera.

Oh, watch out for those weird 32.

Back to Pebble Beach.

Wow.

33 Oakmont Country Club. Hopefully it doesn't rain this time. Faster greens. 2034, Oakland Hills, the South Course. Okay, back to Pioneers in 2035, back to Shinnecock '36.

Pebble, Pebble's hot. Pebble's hot.

2037, Pebble. Ooh, Boston, the Country Club, 2038. Matt Fitzpatrick. Los Angeles Country Club.

People didn't like that one, the North Course. Okay, they didn't like this.

No, that was— they, they let the people in. That was the problem with that one. Back to Marion 2040, back to Pinehurst 2041, Oakmont 2042, back to Pebble— wow— 2044, and then Inverness 2045.

Oh, we have 2047. Oh, and Pioneers 2047, 2049 Oakmont.

It goes all the way to 2051, 2051, back to Oakland Hills.

All right, so 2046, you're on the clock.

I want to get merch from the, the Open that is scheduled right now, like 2050, 2050. They already sell hats for sure, right? For these tournaments that won't happen for another 25 years.

So, okay, the— all right, so we're ready. I actually like the West Coast ones. Remember the LA Country Club? It was— it's nice when the final round was at like Sunday night.

Yeah, prime time.

Awesome.

Pebble. Pebble next year will be fun.

Pebble next year will be awesome.

A great tie-in for the video, Hank.

Yeah. Yeah.

Great job.

Okay. When you're cool, Tom.

My cool throne is respecting women. Yeah, uh, the Atlanta Hawks announced this week that they're hosting a Magic City Monday honoring the iconic Atlanta strip club at their March 16th game against the Magic. It's kind of crazy honoring a strip club.

Well, lemon pepper wings.

T.I. will perform. They'll serve their world-famous wings at the game, limited edition merch, uh, and then NBA champion Celtic legend Luke Cornett Cornett went on Medium, sounded off. He said allowing this night to go forward without protest would reflect poorly on us as an NBA community, specifically being complicit in potential objectification of and mistreatment of women in our society.

What if it was just about the lemon pepper wings?

But it's not. It's not a wing place. It's a strip club.

All right. So Luke Cornett, fine message. No problem with the message. You are not on the Magic. You're not on the Hawks. I thought when this— when I saw this, he was like somehow traded to the Hawks or was playing in this game. He's got nothing to do with it. Keep it— keep your nose out of this.

I did.

What do you mean?

Use your platform.

No, keep your nose out of it. I can't go to strip clubs?

I didn't think he was on the Hawks. Yeah, he's a narc. Well, what'd he say? He said the NBA should desire to protect and esteem women, many of whom work diligently every day to make this the best basketball league in the world. Yeah, we should promote an atmosphere that is protective and respectful of the daughters, wives, sisters, mothers, and partners.

Agreed with that.

That we know love. Allowing this night to go forward without protest would reflect poorly on us as an NBA community, specifically in being complicit in the potential objectification and mistreatment of women in our society. I think— listen, I respect Luke Cornett for using his platform, for logging on to Medium.com and setting up an account and getting back in the blogging game.

He writes a lot.

I would just counterpoint and say that, like, it's okay for people to be horny.

Yeah. Like, also, none of your business because you're not in this game.

The thing about being horny is like, yeah, but it's the people have been in the league, like, literally for the entire history of the world, guys have been like, tits are great.

Yeah, but they're not allowed to promote certain places.

Like, if he was like playing in this game, I would, I would totally understand it. I'd be like, all for it. Hey, man, you don't really want to be in a game. What about the kids?

What would you like?

Would you bring her?

Would you bring your kid to Magic City? And they're like, hey, Dad, what's Magic City? Yeah, we go.

These wings are so good.

But I don't think they're going to—

like, what if they go? What if a kid goes and is like, these are the best wings I've ever had in my life. Can we please go get these wings?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Then I'll be like, all right, ask your mother.

Mm-hmm.

All right. So here's where we're going to land. Let's, let's, let's, let's be, you know, reasonable about this. Good message, Luke Cornett. Kind of not shit on Luke Cornett. I will do one thing, though, and it will be the first thing we've done because we've done the reverse a lot. Luke Cornett, you are officially not invited to Max's party. I think that's fair. Like, yeah, we can't have him banned. We cannot have him. And I—

and get him out.

Offense to the guy, ban him. We can't have him, Hank. Do you not agree?

I get—

I mean, he probably has a game anyway, but you can't have—

you know what I like, Max? You can't have them.

No, that's not a bachelor party guy.

Yeah.

Are there going to be strippers at the game?

I don't think that would be—

I don't think they might be on Luke Kornet's side.

It's not gonna be nipples at the game. I would like to maybe do Magic City Day on part of my take.

Yeah, but if they have that, if they have a Magic City Night, you're not going to invite the, the staff?

Well, it says right here, special live recording of Hawks. So it's, it's Magic City Kitchen's world famous wings. They're talking about the wings. You're actually a pervert, Hank. This reminds you and Luke Cornett are perverts for thinking it's about the strip club. It's not the wings.

You guys know about the Philly Wing Bowl?

Yeah, of course.

It kind of sounds like this. It's basically wings, wings and boobs.

Yeah. So they're doing Wings, a Podcast and they're— Yeah, but if you look up Magic City, Magic City premiere, they're doing Wings, a Podcast and they're selling a hoodie. Those are the 3 things that they're doing. I don't see anything on there about adult entertainment.

It's Magic City.

No, but similar to Eleven, maybe Magic City. I've never been, but maybe it's a wing place with strippers, not a strip club.

MagicCity.com. Magic City, premier Atlanta strip club.

I'm going to go to MagicCity.com and see. MagicCity.com. Let's just see.

I have no problem with Luke Cornett should use his platform wherever he wants. I happen to disagree and he's not invited to the bachelor party. That's it. That's like a handshake. Like, you think your thing, I think my thing, we can disagree. Great.

There's no nipples on the website. I think no nipples, no. Luke Cornett, what he's doing is he's actually drawing more attention to the strippers.

Do you think he's getting paid by Magic City?

This could be—

I don't—

viral.

I think that might be it.

It's literally viral.

Luke Cornett. My real problem with all of this is I just assumed Luke Cornett was playing in this game. And then when I figured out he wasn't, And are the Hawks gonna have Magic City on their jerseys?

They probably will.

And they're playing the Magic. That feels like bad planning.

Let's see, Magic City feels like crazy planning, does it not?

It's gonna be the Magic City versus the Magic.

We should really do Magic City Day on Power My Take, just, just for the wings.

Just so—

yeah, we'll just get some lemon pepper wings.

Super Bowl's in Atlanta in 2 years.

Yeah, we'll do that.

Yeah, we'll do a podcast. If Magic City wants to reach out, we'll do a podcast for Magic 100%. Yep. For the Wings.

I still feel like there's a stolen valor of the Wing Bowl.

Why? Why? This has nothing to do with Philly.

Philly invented wings.

They invented wings and boobs. Wings and boobs. I was just— I was just explaining to Zach what the Wing Bowl was. And he said, and he still doesn't believe that it's a real thing.

It's actually kind of like for the people that don't know, the sad part of the Eagles actually winning the Super Bowl.

Yeah.

Well, they stopped doing it.

They stopped doing the Wing Bowl.

Yeah.

For the people that don't know, the Wing Bowl in Philly, once a year, right before the Super Bowl, they would have a wing-eating competition at the Sixers Stadium. And for some reason, there would just be strippers also in the stadium, like going up and down like the aisles. And if they— it was also kind of like Mardi Gras that the— that if the Jumbotron cut to a girl, they'd be like— they basically had to, or else it would be like visceral boos from the crowd.

So they did this because the Eagles had never won a Super Bowl.

Yeah.

And then, well, they won a Super Bowl and they stopped.

I mean, it's, it's insane that that was a real thing that happened. But, but it was probably good that it got canceled.

But listen, I think that it's more offensive to women that they would be there watching a Hawks-Magic game. That's— yeah, that, that would be the real tragedy. But I think it's in our best interest to just wait for all the facts to come out. And by that, I mean, let's wait to see what Charles Barkley has to say. And then whatever he says, people will be like, yeah, that makes sense.

Don't you think, Hank, it's a little demeaning of Luke Cornett to be like, this is disgusting what these strippers— like, strippers have the right to do whatever they want to do. Like, that's— that's— you're demeaning their profession.

Of course strippers can do whatever they want to do.

Yeah, but Luke Cornett, it's more the team.

It's the team endorsing the team endorsing it.

I mostly have a problem. I have a problem with, uh, I can't a cancel culture guy right now. I'm offended on behalf of Magic City. Yeah, I think for the Atlanta Hawks to put their brand on it, I'm thinking about—

Yeah, that's true. It's like we're talking about strippers there.

I want to go to Magic City and not think about the Atlanta Hawks. Yeah, that's offensive that you make me think about that.

I'm with you. If they, if they were like, hey, we're going to have strippers, like you can't bring a kid to, to that. This is about the wings.

It's not.

Okay, it is. It says world famous wings. And a TI performance and a TI.

Yeah.

Bring the community together.

You ever have the lemon pepper wet?

No.

You would like it.

You should wait until you have the lemon pepper wet, then open your mouth.

That was a really good discussion we had. Okay. I still can't believe he's not playing in the game. Was that shocking to you?

Oh, yes. It's a major—

I thought, I thought for sure they were playing the Spurs or like I said, that Lucronette had been traded to the Hawks.

It's a major— what is Ja Rule thinking at this moment? I got to know any, any controversy in the NBA now. Got to rush to Medium.com and see what Luke says.

Okay. PFT, your hot seat.

Cool, Tyrone.

My hot seat is stolen valor. Oh, because me and Big Cat just stole some serious valor.

We did.

And it's pretty incredible.

Oh, yeah.

Pretty incredible.

So we did—

we had forgotten about this, but these just appeared on our desk yesterday. Don't call me PFT Cometer anymore. Don't call Big Cat Big Cat anymore. I'm now Colonel Commenter.

Mm-hmm.

And this is Colonel Cat. We are officially Kentucky Colonels as licensed by the state of Kentucky.

Signed by the governor of Kentucky, Andy Beshear.

Yeah.

Insane.

Pretty crazy. Now, this— it might be from last year. It does say 2025, but we just found these certificates yesterday.

Oh, really? I didn't realize that.

I just saw it in the year of our Lord 2025. In the 233rd year of the Commonwealth. Yeah. February 21st, 2025. Big Cat and I officially became Kentucky Colonels as signed off on by the governor of the state for our work in reuniting Rick Pitino with Big Blue Nation.

Incredible. Hank, would you like to apologize to PFT and I now knowing that you were talking to two colonels?

No. What does that even mean?

Put you in jail.

We're a colonel, dude.

What is a colonel?

Do you know what a colonel is? It's a rank higher than you. What are you?

Yeah. What are you? You're a colonel.

Are you private?

What are you?

What are— I'm a human.

We're colonels. Yeah, we're humans and I'm a human colonel.

So you're popcorn.

Respect.

Pre-pop popcorn.

Respect the badge. That's your thing. You have a red box.

We should get badges.

We should get guns.

We should get guns and badges.

And those are like— we need to get stripes to put on our shoulders.

Yeah, we got to— we got to get badges. We got to start flashing badges. People.

I don't know what this means, but I'm pretty sure that we can just go to Kentucky and do whatever we want.

Yep. And oh, we got to trick Hank into going to Kentucky with us. Then we arrest him.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah. No, you have power of arrest. We can be judge, jury, and executioner.

Yep.

In the Commonwealth of Kentucky. Thank you to the state.

Yeah.

I've always wanted to be a colonel, but I didn't want to sign up for the military. This is way easier.

Dude, you're fucked, Hank.

Yeah.

You're on.

You're so fucked.

Yeah. You better stay out of Kentucky, buddy.

You are so fucked.

I wouldn't set foot in Frankfurt. State of Louisville.

It is a lifetime commission. So you're good there.

Okay.

All right. Done. So we always can fall back on that. So what if shit gets crazy? It's like, hey, we're still colonels.

What do colonels get?

There are 350,000 living colonels.

All right.

How many?

How many people are in the world, Hank? 7 billion. So pretty good odds.

350,002.

Yeah.

Update that.

So what do we get with it? Do we get chicken?

Trying to find some other notable ones.

We get a horse.

I'm trying to look this up right now. The historic Kentucky— that also might mean like in history.

Hank, is this the first podcast ever done by two colonels? Might be.

Probably Kentucky Sports Radio.

Maybe you think they're colonels. No chance.

I bet Matt Jones is. He probably had something to do with this.

Matt Jones, if he's a colonel. Are you an official? Is this like being knighted?

Yeah, we're knighted in Kentucky. This is like— it's better than a key to the city. We got— we can do whatever we want in the entire state.

Love it.

Let's see, we've got— we probably get free bourbon. Every governor decides the selection process and number of colonels that are issued. The process has previously required a nomination from another colonel or direct recognition. I think that maybe Matt Jones might have nominated us. To be colonels. Yeah, it's, uh, we're on par with the Indiana Sagamores of the Wabash.

Okay.

Nebraska Admirals.

Okay.

The Ohio Commodores, the Rhode Island Commodores, the Texas Admirals, and the Arkansas Travelers.

We should collect them all.

Yeah, next time we'll collect them all.

Bill Clinton's a colonel.

Yeah.

Okay, cool. Great.

Awesome.

Good guy.

Part—

parts of him had a lot of fun.

We're good.

Bobby Knight.

Yeah, yeah. Legend.

Well, no, so take one off the 350. He's dead.

Arkansas Traveler. That feels like the next one. Yeah, I would like to be an Arkansas Traveler.

Who's the Texas one?

Um, Admiral Texas. I think it's an admiral in the Texas State Navy.

Love it. Yeah, love it. We're in. Okay. What's your cool throne?

I was just too excited about the— about that. My cool throne is going to be— it's actually more of a hot seat, but cool throne is, I guess, Hank. He's not a colonel because, no, he kind of turned his back on, on LIV Golf not too long ago. And now there's like an international diplomatic crisis brewing with the LIV community and the LIV Tour because you've got 8 players that are in the LIV Golf League that are stuck and doesn't look like they're going to be able to make it to Hong Kong for their next event of the year because of the war. Oh, so all their planes are grounded over there. Oh, and so now you've got guys like, uh, Lee Westwood and Sam Horsfield, real legends of the game, um, that won't be able to make it to the next LIV Golf event.

Potential for aces.

And this is why you get involved with with the Saudis in general is so that you can make sure to get your way out of war zone. They're really good at that type of thing. And it seems like they're taking their eye off the ball a little bit. Are any of these guys aces, Hank? Tom McKibbin, Caleb Surratt. Oh, Thomas Dietrich.

Yes.

The twin Toms.

Twin Toms. So you lost a 4 ace.

That's not good.

You've got an ace that's stuck.

What are you looking up right now? Are you looking up colonels?

He's looking up if there's any, like, death penalty for killing a Kentucky colonel.

Charlie Chapman. OK, Chris Tableton.

OK. All right. Yeah, we're colonels, dude. Yeah, used to it. And you will address us as such.

Enjoy it. Enjoy our colonel.

So I would like to see— I would like to see you salute us, Hank.

Yeah, why don't you salute us, Hank?

I will not be doing that.

Just come on.

You just do the— Zach, give us a little salute to the forehead.

Look at that.

Thank you.

That's a good soldier. Thank you. Hey, thank you, Max Memes. OK, thank you. Everyone here is respected colonels except Hank. He has not saluted Dick Smothers. Awesome name.

Very cool.

Great name.

Also cool. Throwing memes. Happy birthday, memes.

Happy birthday, memes.

Everybody wants to know about memes' birthday. Happy birthday.

Happy birthday, memes.

Good guy memes.

I hope you get everything you want.

30.

I'm turning 30 till I turn 40.

It's 31.

Okay.

Okay.

Happy birthday, memes. We love you.

You do anything fun, memes?

No. Might get a blowjob. Oh, memes, don't say that around Hank. Yeah, play some NCAA, rebuild the Jets.

You act like it's a good night. It's like picking up a six-pack from the store. I'm like, I'm gonna have a blowjob tonight.

I love it. Oh, okay, my hot seat is, um, Floyd Mayweather, because I'm starting to think Floyd Mayweather might not have a lot of money left. So he's fighting Manny Pacquiao in September, which we already talked about. He's also fighting a Greek kickboxer in June in Athens, Greece. It feels like Floyd Mayweather shouldn't be fighting this much at his age.

No, I mean, I'm respectfully opting out of all Floyd Mayweather content. Yeah, I don't think I'm going to watch a single— I don't want to see Floyd Mayweather do anything. I wish he would just go off and kind of be peaceful, live his life. Respectfully, Floyd, we had a long time when a big part of the sports attention economy was dedicated around Floyd Mayweather and all the weird shit that he was up to. I thought it was past that. So I would like to remain past that.

There was a first lady named Lady Bird.

Yeah, we know that.

Lady Bird Johnson.

Yeah, that's going to be Johnson's fun fact. Why did she take over after JFK got fucking—

She's a colonel.

She's a colonel. They have woke colonels now.

I always wondered this. If you're Floyd Mayweather and you were running out of money, why wouldn't you do one of these last, like the Pacquiao fight or something, and then save it?

What do you mean save the money? Save the money?

Yeah, yeah. Because if you are— because if you're known like super insane rich and then you go broke, but you have the ability to basically like get out of debt with a, with a one-time fight, wouldn't you just do the one-time fight and then be like, all right, hey, I'm gonna just I'm gonna live normal now.

You would think that that would be— he's in debt.

What they do, he's trying to get back to zero and then he's gonna accrue more.

Yeah, but every time they, they have a fight like this and they get paid off it, they think, oh, I still got it, people still care about me, so I can do another one next time. Yeah, just, you know what he should do? He should do like, let— okay, Floyd Mayweather, for one night only, I'm just gonna take on the first 20 guys that want to fight me, just like off the street. Random dudes step into the ring.

Bonnie Blue.

One by one. Yeah, he should be the— yeah, Bonnie Blow.

Yeah. Max, would you like to say anything? Correct yourself from Sunday.

Queen Elizabeth.

Go ahead.

Mayweather.

Yeah.

Mayweather Pacquiao.

Yeah.

I said it was the first ever sporting event in this sphere. It's the first boxing event in the sphere. There was UFC card there, which I don't remember at all.

But it did happen. Thank you. Because people were very—

people were mad at me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I That one slipped my mind.

It's very funny, the idea of someone in AWL, you know, the 10-year anniversary, listening and still being like, how do they fuck this up? We fuck up everything. Literally every show, there's— we're littered, landmines of errors and mistakes.

That's a pretty easy one. Yeah, that's a pretty— I'd say let that one slide. Yeah, let that—

for the 10-year, you know what, take a couple pitches every now and then. We fuck up a lot of things. Some of them we got to just, you know, take a pitch.

Yeah.

Also, if you're going to— if you're going to have that energy for Max, save that energy for Memes. Memes is right. Seahawks not expected to tag Kenneth Walker III. Yeah, Memes got it right.

As first reported by Memes on this podcast, Teddy Two Gloves, Colonel Matt Jones is a Colonel.

Lamar Jackson, not a Colonel.

Wow.

I would like to nominate Lamar Jackson to be a colonel. As a colonel, I'm entitled to do that.

Yeah.

Would you like to nominate Hank to be a colonel?

Absolutely not. He didn't salute us. My cool throne is Vincent Trocek's son because I don't know if you guys saw this, but— oh, so it was Matt Jones who made it happen. Oh wait, maybe he said yes. Who made that happen? I think that's him. Thank you if it was you. Vincent Trocek's son. Son had the quote of the NHL trade deadline. By the way, I love the NHL trade deadline. They do it right, like a month before the end of the season. That's what it should be. It shouldn't be halfway through. You should be able to keep the hope alive.

I like the baseball—

I like the baseball trade deadline.

What?

It's like just enough time to make a run.

Yeah. Yeah. That's closer. I'm saying like, yeah, like the NFL and NBA, it's like, why are we doing this? So, you know, give us a little bit Go a little bit deeper. But anyway, Vincent Trocek said that he was— he talked to his kids about the possibility of being traded to prepare them. And his son, who is 7, replied, well, I'll stay because, you know, I have a hockey team here and I didn't get traded. Good thought. Yeah, son.

Yeah, right.

He is 100% right.

Like, yeah, the family doesn't get traded.

Yeah.

Only daddy gets traded.

Yeah.

I read an article about the trade deadline in The Athletic the other day.. And it was like, here's what we expect teams to do. And pretty much every team was just like, we expect them to make a move. Just like it's wide open, this trade deadline. A lot of teams. Nobody knows what's going to happen. I saw that the Avs might get active with it, get back in the game. I saw one thing that was kind of fun to look at. Goalie Bob maybe goes out to Edmonton.

That would be fun.

That'd be a fun thing to look at.

Yeah.

I don't know. It feels like there's going to be a chaotic Yep. Trade deadline.

Yeah. Okay. Zach, finish us off. My hot seat this week is going to be Rams fans. Okay. Los Angeles Rams fans. More specifically because Puka Nkua might be focused on everything but football right now. Yeah, he seems like he's having a good time. He's on an elite bachelor run.

We're talking Sarah Safari at the mall undercover.

We're talking ice side overtime Meg. I think he— What?

I know what all these words mean, but Hank doesn't. Explain them to Hank.

The overtime Megan picture. Is so funny. I'm gonna send it to you. It—

or I— it's— say what you said again. I side with the overtime.

Makes sense.

Said courtside, you know, they're at the Kings game.

Yeah, ringside, I side.

Yeah, we're right there. But, uh, it just—

it looks like a great time.

And— but I think you should be worried if you're a fan because he's—

he's— he's focused— he's not on— he's not focused on the game.

He did have a good line to Sidney Sweeney the other day, though. I guess that was a couple of weeks ago where she said she was looking for a risk taker, someone who goes skydiving. And he just quote tweeted and said, I love skydiving.

He's playing the field crazy, but he's not playing the football field.

So they're at a hockey game and they showed him on the Jumbotron and they had the name tags. It's like Puka Nacua. And then in small font above it is his like and it's whatever, Puka is dead. For Megan, they put Overtime Megan as like her official name. And then her is like her actual real name.

Oh, that's great. That's great. By the way, Zach, I would counterpoint, Puka doesn't have a game. I know, but I just— when you're on this kind of heater, I think it's, it's going to transcend and this is going to bleed into the regular season. This feels like, this feels like Sean McVay sitting in his office being like, you know what, I'm gonna, I'm gonna give him like 2 more weeks and then I'll give him a call. Okay, so he's got time. Yeah, he's got a little more time. He's got a little more— guys can't go to sports games.

I agree.

That's what I'm saying. Sean McVay's gonna give him a couple more weeks, then he's like, all right, hey, OTAs are going to be here sooner than you think. Let's, you know, let's just get back in shape.

What would Luc Cornett think about this?

He'd be disgusted.

Yeah.

At a hockey game.

Going to a hockey game.

What are you going to say about the NHL?

Think about the— what if he went to— what if he went to Detroit and he went to a Wings game? Gross. Luc Cornett can't be around Wings. Crazy. What we've heard. All right.

Your cool throne.

But my cool throne this week is figure skating fans.

Okay.

Because Stars on Ice just dropped.

We had a great run watching all the figure skaters in the Olympics, and now we're—

if you wanted to see them compete or kind of skate around, all the, all the hitters are going to be there.

Okay.

And there's like several dates.

Quad God there.

Nope.

National champion there.

I told you there. I told this story on the Yak, but I felt a little bad about it. So our good friend Nick Turanyi got engaged and he had a little engagement party at a bar on Saturday. So I stopped by and KB was there with his fiancée and I was sitting there and KB was like, hey, My fiancée had a question for you. And because she was like, you know, like she likes sports. She was trying to bond over sports. And she was like, what did you think about the quad god and the figure skating in the Olympics? And I just went thumbs down. That was my response. So I was like, after I was like, that wasn't— that wasn't an appropriate response. That was— I was acting like an idiot. I think that's appropriate. But that's how I feel. Like, I don't care about figure skating.

Skating.

We cleaned it up. We had a further conversation. But yeah, I felt bad in the moment where I was like, how did you— that's not normal. Life is not to react to someone's question with—

when it's Olympic figure skating and it's after the Olympics, I think it's—

that's appropriate.

Oh yeah. No, our brains, we changed the channel after the Olympics.

It's like, let's move on. Oh, she was asking if I cared during it. Still. Yeah. But yeah, my brain, I don't, I don't regret the how I feel about it with the thumbs down fart sound, it's more I should have probably prefaced it with like, hey, I don't really care, then hit her with the—

what also seemed like you were trying to embrace debate, and I don't think she was ready for a debate. She was ready for a discussion. Yeah. Like a proactive, cheerful, like positive discussion. Yeah. Not banter. Now, Zach, I got a question for you. Back to Overtime Meg. Yes, sir. She's not the one that was hanging out with A.B. before he went nuts, was it?

Was she?

No, that was falsely reported.

They were trying to say that was Overtime Meg, but it wasn't Overtime Meg. Okay.

Because then I was going to get back on board of like, yeah, Puka should stop. Overtime Meg used to date Kyle from Nelk. Got it. But then she called it. She caught him maybe, maybe cheating in the background of a TikTok.

And then they had a public breakup. Yeah. No, this is where I selectively turn off half my brain so that it's like I can't accidentally absorb any of this information.

That was good.

That was good. Yeah, but I don't want— I don't want that to stick. I was right because I don't have enough. I don't have enough storage. Yeah, that was correct. You know, when you have to delete when you have to delete some like photos in your photo album to get the storage to download something.

If I took that information and, and held on to it, I'd have to delete other things. Yeah, about college basketball during football season. It's not worth it. Listen, I have very limited storage in my brain right now. That's gonna—

that's in danger of pushing all my clavicular knowledge out, and I can't have that.

Cannot.

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We're a week after. Do you still have the glow? Do you still have that feeling of— because it was a moment that I think we can all agree having the entire country come together and just embrace you guys, uh, and no controversy whatsoever.

It was awesome. Yeah, well, first of all, thanks for— thanks for having us.

If—

to answer your question about the glow, I've got some serious glow on me right now, and I have since last Sunday. Like, it's, it's at a kind of that all-time high feeling that it doesn't matter what's going on in our days or whatever, like Like, for example, like, we're playing, we're playing in the Island last night and I hear the national anthem. And every time I hear the national anthem right now, it brings me back to having my arms around my brothers, listening to it, seeing our flag go up above Canada. Like, it's just the little things that bring you back. It seems like every day there's some moments that just continue to bring me back to this amazing few-week journey in Milan. Just so lucky I could do it with Brady. And I'm not gonna lie, I've worn this pretty much daily.

Yeah, he's wearing this medal right now.

Medal stays on. I love that. Brady, you feel the same way?

Yeah.

Oh, I've got the McGregor strut going around Ottawa right now, so right at the rank of this, feeling pretty good about myself. But, uh, no, I mean, it's just— it still, like, feels like you're in a dream and somebody's got to wake you up. And I mean, the fact you're still wearing that, Matthew, your neck's got to be as strong as ever because that thing's heavy.

Yeah, it's like— it's like you doing the, uh— I gotta start doing the neck warm-ups that you did, guys. I got a quick story to add about this. So Brady— so we were crying laughing at Brady's warm-ups at the Olympics because nobody plays in Ottawa other than Sanderson, so we don't see like the shit that he does. And, uh, he comes in for a warm-up one day, his hands all taped up like he's about to go fight Rocky. He's wearing a sleeveless shirt that like he cut himself, and he's doing these like neck stuff on the bench, and guys are like, this is insane. So I think it was— I think it was all hard. Yeah, I think it was all part of the all part of the culture that, uh, that the characters on the team built. I mean, there were some insane characters on that team, and, uh, I think that's what helped make us successful.

What was the more, uh, patriotic national anthem? The one after you guys won the gold medal where you see, you know, the flag up there right above Canada's, or the one that you guys sang at Eleven? Because that seems like— I said that every strip club should play the national anthem, and I know that Eleven's not a strip club.

Yeah, we had your back on the show.

It's a nightclub with naked women.

It's different. We had a Whole, like, we're like, listen, everyone who's upset about this Eleven thing, it's not a strip club. It's a club with strippers. There's a big difference.

I just love the idea of playing the national anthem before you see some tits. I think that every person should do that. So tell me about that moment and how wonderful that was.

Hey, all champions, it's all roads lead to Eleven. We've done it the last few years. Indiana did it when they won. But I don't know, Brady, you could answer. I got to throw in another one though, because one was really special too, was went to Elbow Room on Wednesday, the day I got back after the White House, and they sang it a few times there. And that was pretty patriotic too. So that's a pretty good 1, 2, 3.

I don't know, Brady. I don't know. I didn't really expect it at 11, so that I think that caught me by surprise. But it was pretty cool looking around, seeing everybody singing it. We had the flags waving. And, uh, yeah, that was, uh, something I didn't expect.

Yeah.

Yeah. All right. I got a question about the actual game because it was so awesome. And I, you know, we, we as, as sports fans, as Americans, we felt the glow too. Like I was walking around feeling like, you know, a little, little extra something for a few days there. But the actual game was incredible game. Did you guys going into the game, like before the game, did you know you're like, hey, this is going to be a war, and it's also going to be probably one of like the speed on the ice is going to be on another level. How are you like mentally preparing for that as you get ready to go on the ice against Canada?

Yeah, I mean, I think that we were preparing like it was going to be the 40 best players in the world on the ice at the same time, which it was like the talent on that ice was insane. The speed, the skill, the physicality. And what people don't realize in those types of games is with that much skill, like, it's never gonna be a 5-4, 6-5 game. Like, it's always going to be a 1-0, 2-1, because the guys take so much more pride in not giving up a goal than actually going out there and scoring one. So, um, we knew it was going to be tight. Um, we didn't know we were gonna need the best goaltending performance of all time, but we got it. And, uh, Brady, it's probably— that's actually a good reminder. We should probably send out our daily text to Helly.

Thank you. Have you been— yeah, wait, so, so Helly, obviously incredible performance. Is there a moment in early in the game where you knew he was locked in, or maybe it was pregame where you're just like, oh, this is different? Because I think I realized it probably somewhere, you know, late because I'm not as like dialed in, but like somewhere in the second period I was like, oh, this is like— this is him putting the team on the back here. Like he's gonna, he's gonna fucking do this.

Yeah, I think some point in the second when everybody on the bench kept saying, uh, this is their best, let's just get back to our game, and then they just kept getting better and just kept shooting the puck and kept saving it. I was like, okay, he's, he's locked in back there. The breakaway, I think, with McDavid was in the second and just kind of outweighed him and was super— like, that's what I noticed, just how calm and super patient he was. And to be patient against McDavid, you have to be truly confident in yourself. So that was the moment there. And then we get into the third period and those three Grade A chances that don't know how they didn't score. I was on the ice for all three of them. So I was like, all right, well, this is meant to be. We're winning this game. Like, those three should be in the back of the net. They're not. I come back to the bench. All right, boys, here we go. Here we go.

Somebody's ready.

How about Brady?

How about him before overtime too?

Yeah, like, he's like, uh, like, we're just going over, like, somebody's gonna be the hero. And then he's just like, look, he's like, is it gonna be—

is it 5 on 5?

No way.

He's like, no, it's 3 on 3.

He's like, all right, all right, sweet. And I just carried on like it was nothing.

I was like looking around, I'm like, oh boy.

But that's—

oh boy, it was a beauty. That's a testament to how locked in he is. Like the, like, old stories of, like, Tom Brady taking naps before the Super Bowl, where it's like almost the guy who's who's like so calm it's weird is usually the guy who's so locked in.

Yeah, I think he was like— I think he was like exactly what you want in a starting goalie, like in the magnitude of that game. Because they did a great job of not really— like, we knew how big of a game it was, but they did a great job of like controlling like how much we knew. Like, people were watching, like, and then we come back to the US and it's like a madhouse. But like, we knew it was big but they kept it pretty calm-ish. And then seeing Helly and like seeing him on the bus and like he's taking naps like on the way to games on the bus, like just hanging in the, in the, in the bus. Like it's just, it was crazy. It was exactly what you want from a starting goalie. And I mean, obviously we don't have these gold medals without him, so we're very lucky.

Yeah.

Thank you, Helly.

Yeah.

You mentioned the, the group chat. Do you guys still have the group chat going?

Oh, it's firing all day.

It's still going every day since.

Yeah, yeah, I love that. I love that. No, has anybody like added somebody from Canada to the group chat just to fuck with them? Like, oops, my bad, Connor, didn't mean to put you on here.

Yeah, no, that, that hasn't happened yet. Uh, but I've— I knew this was like a special group when I just— the times that we're having. But everybody after was like, this group chat's gonna stay alive for a very long time. So It's, uh, the amount of texts that is just absolutely a gong show that, that we have going on. A bunch of inside jokes and shit like that that guys are still doing. And, and, uh, no, it's— I mean, I truly miss it. I miss the boys. I miss representing our country. It was, uh, such an unbelievable experience.

Yeah, the— I was listening to, to your guys' podcast Wingman, uh, with Wingman, which, which comes out every Wednesday. And I was— it was funny because I was listening to it, I was like These guys sound like guys who just went on the greatest bachelor party of all time, and they also happen to win a gold medal at the end. Cause that, like, like hanging out with the boys, you guys were talking about it, how like the camaraderie was there. And it's gotta be just like, it has to be something just totally different because in the NHL you're traveling city to city and y'all are like moving around and everyone, you know, when you have home games, you're all staying at your own house. Did it feel like it was like, like almost like summer camp or something when you guys were there.

That's, that's so funny you say that because Ike's, uh, Jack Eichel actually said the exact same thing, like towards the end of it. He's like, I think he was shaking his head on the way to the airport, um, that Monday morning. He's like, boys, that was the greatest 3-week bachelor party of my life. Like, that is the best way to describe what just happened. Um, what I think is so special about the whole experience and just like how what made it so great is everybody kind of crossed paths with each other at some point. Like the USNTP was huge youth hockey tournaments. I mean, some of my best friends were on that team that I grew up playing with, you know, just like besides Brady, like the guys that in my hockey career I've played with the longest, like on that team. So I think it just helps so much to like the chemistry, like from the start, even from the start of Four Nations last year was at an all-time high and it just continued to carry it over here. And then we're staying in the village, which which I really think was like our— I don't know, ace of spades.

Like, that was our, like, trump card on everything because we spent every second with each other and had every meal with each other, team meals, playing cards every single night, hanging out, you know, with the women's team, watching events or other athletes, speed skaters, figure skaters. So we just got to enjoy the whole experience and the camaraderie with the group. Group. Like, I don't know if there will ever be a group that is that tight or that has that much history, um, you know, with throughout the whole, the whole squad. So, um, I truly miss it too. Um, and I'm honestly already looking forward to this World Cup in a few years. Gotta keep playing good so we could be on that team.

Yeah, yeah. Like, the energy that you guys were giving off was basically like someone turns to, to everyone on the last day being like, why don't we just fucking— why don't we all leave our families and just like play in the Olympics forever? Like that one day at a bachelor party where everyone's like, this is sick, should we just get a place together? And then you're like, ah shit, probably can't do this every day of our lives, but it would be sick.

Oh yeah, that would be unbelievable. That conversation probably happened multiple times in Miami. Oh, we should just— we should just do it. Hey, let's just do it. I think we—

I think we have like literally 5 like sets of dates planned this summer for reunion. Like there's like a World Cup soccer game, there's, uh, Chelios is giving us his Malibu place, he said for the week, a weekend. We've got a golf trip and, and now everybody wants the first weekend of August locked in every summer for like the boys weekend. So we'll figure it out, but, uh, there's a lot of great ideas floating around right now.

Yeah, I love that. Probably a lot of promises made under the influence, like, yeah, next free agency we're all Let's just all play together in the NHL. Let's just, just like do this for the rest of our lives, boys. It was awesome to watch. And going back to last year with the Four Nations, we saw it like as a start of it, we as American hockey fans, we, we fell in love with this team in that match against Canada where we were out there chucking nucks from the get-go. And it seemed like you guys brought like an element of physicality to the team last year that I wanted to see in the Olympics. You weren't allowed to fight though. Like, how did you get all that aggression out? How did you make the team become even that much tighter when you're not allowed to get in these line brawls?

I mean, that was definitely, uh, I mean, such a great experience, like the Four Nations. Like, that was kind of realizing how impactful that was. But I mean, I know for me it almost gave you a free just run around, and you don't really have to answer the bell. So it's like, I'm just going there to try to, try to put you— put, put your toe caps touching the ceiling, and, uh And then just kind of run around with knowing not to fight and knowing that, uh, but I think it just showed like the way we played, just the way that we had each other's backs and just the unity and, and, uh, um, just how we're willing to do whatever it takes. I, I've been— I think everybody played that way. Everybody played super hard. And, uh, I mean, there's a couple scrums where you just kind of have a free-for-all, but, uh, I know, I know Matthew and I had a fun one in Slovakia that, that didn't turn into anything, but, uh, some good pictures in the hallway after.

Yeah.

Yeah. Can you tell me about the gold medals? How does the gold medal feel?

Is it heavy? It's, it's heavier than people think, but it's, it's insane. Like what it, it almost is. It almost rivals the Cup. Maybe not quite the Cup because the Stanley Cup's only one of them. But like, I brought this, I actually brought this to the rink yesterday to the Islanders, to the game against the Islanders., and my sister came with one of her— with her best friend. And, um, we had to do a few things like behind the scenes with, with the medal, like some pictures and showing some people with the Islanders organization. But I'm like, Taryn, like, I'll give— I'll have somebody bring it up to you and you can wear it for the game. And even she said, like, the amount of people that are coming up just to take a picture, just see if they can like hold it or touch it, like, it's, it's, uh, one of the most amazing things like ever, like what it does to people. Like, people just freak out over it. And, uh, I mean, rightly so, it is the Olympics and it is a gold medal, but it's, uh, it's just Amazing to see.

And, uh, kind of goes like back to what we were talking a little bit, um, you know, over the last week. It's just like the support we've gotten has been incredible. Like, we almost felt like we were like America's team there for a bit, where everybody, whether they liked hockey or not, they were tuning in and they were cheering for us. So, um, it just makes a whole— it makes everything so much more special just knowing the support we got.

Yeah.

Did you guys get the Olympic ring tattoos? Need them.

You got to get those. I know, the boys are talking about it.

So that was the 11 idea too.

This, boys. Everyone gets the Olympic tattoos. I feel like that's the next step. That's what you guys do on the boys trip this summer.

Yeah. I don't, I, I, the camaraderie sounds incredible. I don't, I don't mean to maybe cause a rift, but like, are we a little, I mean, the Hughes brothers are kind of taking your guys' shine. Like you guys were the brothers and now they're on SNL. Maybe they're just the pretty boy brothers. Is that what we gotta call 'em? 'Cause they're on SNL and stuff.

Hey, they're the brothers that show up and score the big goals. We're the brothers that just cause absolute shenanigans. So they absolutely absolutely deserve everything that they're getting right now. I mean, Quinn— nobody's talking like Quinn had probably the biggest goal of the tournament versus Sweden. Yeah, just to keep us alive. And, and then of course Jackie Boy, just what if— like, I mean, I just still go back to the goal of like how— and I, I don't know how if you felt this way, Matt, I don't even know if we've ever talked— like just how much our brain froze in that moment of like Holy— like, did that go in? And then like, I don't remember a single— like, the next 5 minutes.

Yeah, but it's just a pure— it's a pure— like, you just black out and you just hug. And the amount of 'I love yous' thrown out there, it's like, yeah, the most insane few minutes. And I think that— I think that Jack and Quinn, honest to God, are maybe at their positions the best 3-on-3 player. I'll throw McDavid in there too, obviously, but like, for a forward and for a defenseman, like, they have to be the two best in 3-on-3, like, in the NHL. So, like, I think that everyone talks about all the skill and all the talent on Canada in a 3-on-3 or a 4-on-4 situation. Like, we have just as much, if not more, in those situations. So we were very confident going into both overtimes that we were going to get it done, and those two are obviously going to be at the, at the forefront for it.

And I think one of the coolest things is, like, you guys know, all you pretty much know each other at some point through like youth hockey. Because I read the story that Brady, you lived with Quinn, Quinn lived in your house when you were in high school, right? And, and what was the story about him, uh, not liking your dad's packed lunch? Because that, that seemed like a crazy, like a 16-year-old Quinn Hughes being like, I'm gonna stand up to Keith Kachuk.

Like, that's a bad idea.

Yeah, yeah.

He, uh, I think the story was usually it was a couple days a week I think we'd like get food, like my dad would go pick up like Chipotle or something like that. And but I think this is the one day that we brought leftovers from the night before. And just Quinn wanted no Chipotle instead. So he, he didn't eat the leftovers that my dad gave him and then went to practice once there and came back and then realized he still had it. But he didn't want to be like disrespectful. Like, be like, I didn't like it or didn't eat it. So he tossed the food, like, from the container out the window, like, by the house. And then he just put it, put it back on, like, with the utensils still, like, the plastic utensils, like, still in its wrappings. Comes up, like, puts up the lunchbox up there. Then my dad was like, uh, how was lunch? And Koon was like, oh, it was, it was really good. Like, the leftovers were really good. And he was like, my dad was like, well, how'd you eat it if you didn't take the utensils out from the bag.

And then I think he like doubled down again. And then finally he was like, he admitted that he didn't eat it. I didn't eat it. Yeah, yeah, I didn't eat it.

I didn't eat it.

And then the next day, like, we're waiting, it's like we're waiting for our lunch, um, and then all of a sudden we see my dad's car pull around like this little like circle, doesn't stop, rolls down the window, just throws our, just a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for the both of us just on the ground. Like, I was like, all right, well, thanks, Quint, you effed me too.

I love it. I love it. But that's so cool that you guys like win a gold medal with guys that you've known for that long. It makes it probably extra special. I also saw, like, speaking of extra special, the picture was going around of you guys at the 2006, I want to say, Olympics, which is pretty cool full circle. I got to ask though, the first picture, the first thing I thought of was like, holy shit, Keith's got an absolute whopper in his lip there. What was it? Was it Copenhagen? What's he—

what was he doing? I think back then he's off and now I think it was Copenhagen. Just long, long, long cut.

Just a hammer over his face. I think it was Grizzly.

Just, it was such a dad you don't want to fuck with because it's like, you don't, you obviously, you know, he, you know, he's Keith Kachuk. But if you just show someone that picture, it's two little kids and then a dad with just a fucking hammer in.

You're like, oh man, just what a dad of the year.

Yeah, that's a guy who's throwing peanut butter and jelly at you.

Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. Going, going back quickly to Quinn and Jack, we have on top of, you know, the team chat that is flying 24/7, we're in another group chat that might buzz a little bit more, and that's me, Brady, Quinn, and Jack, and it's called the Golden Brothers, and it's probably one of my favorite group chats of all time. And it's just a great way for us to like, literally, we're staying in touch just like we were at the Village. And every single night in Village— or sorry, every single night before game. Did we go after games too, Brady? I feel like we did both, actually.

We did it all after the loss.

We did it all. Yeah, we would have a little hot stove in the Hugheses' room. So they were the room— they were 302, we were 301, right across the hall from each other. And, uh, those hot stoves we're gonna miss forever. And, uh, honestly, were like some of the highlights of that tournament for us, just hanging out with them, shooting it, talking about nothing. And we did that pretty much every night. So the Golden Brothers chat is alive, it's well, and it is buzzing.

That sounds incredible. It sounds like the best time ever. Matthew, I got to ask you, do you think that Connor McDavid wants to kill you? Do you think that he sits up at night thinking about you? Are you his, like, his sleep paralysis demon? Does he have your name written on any lists that he just stares at all day? Because it's like, it's like you can't get rid of him. He's scared of you. He, every time he's, he's close, like you show up and you're just like, hey, remember, I got you.

I mean, I don't say that. I mean, sometimes I definitely walk around with the chest out more than I should just because of the last couple of years. But I mean, if roles were reversed, I'd be pretty rattled. So maybe he, maybe he hates me. Sure. He hates my teams more. Um, he's just such an incredible player that it's pretty crazy that, um, you know, he's been that close and hasn't got it. But eventually, when you're that close and, you know, playoffs especially with the best of 7, um, eventually someday, you know, you got to think he's gonna get it done. So, um, I, I can't stop thinking— you said sleep paralysis— I can't stop thinking Brady—

of—

I saw roommates with Brady, not to change the subject away of it, but you just said that and it triggered this story. And I know Brady thought about it immediately. Brady had a sleep paralysis night in the Village, and I was his roommate. I literally thought it was over. And Brady, Brady kept going like, just tell Doc I'm not gonna do it, I'm not gonna make it. And it was like after, after one of the games. It was just so funny. But Brady, you can tell that story.

Yeah, I don't even remember. Yeah, no, I remember. I mean, this, it ties into kind of everything. It ties into the Hughes like we were in the Hugheses' room and then I came back, I was exhausted, but then like the lights were on because you were still wrapping up the conversation. Like, I'm gonna die right now, like I'm gonna fall asleep. So then I remember I sat in bed, the lights were on, and all of a sudden like felt my body just shut down. I was like, okay, but my mind was still going. And then you walk in the room and you're like, hey, what time are we waking up? Like, what time are we waking up? And I just I tried speaking, I tried like turning my head, nothing. So I put all my might into it. I'm like, call Doc, I think I'm dying. And then I could tell like, he started freaking out. My head's still buzzing. Like, I'm still there, but like, I can't move. And I said it again. And Matt's like, you seriously want me to call him? And I finally accepted in my head. I'm like, you know what, I can't keep fighting this anymore.

I finally busted up all my strength. I just I said, if it's time, it's time. And I went back to bed.

So the boys on the team thought that was literally the funniest story at the tournament.

I slept great.

I can't imagine Matthew slept too good. Oh, uh, by the way, Brady, we— now that you guys are, you know, kind of in media doing your own podcast, um, we have, you know, been doing this for a long time. We used to do a thing called PR 101. I want to say you, you guys, you guys can always hit us up if you need help, if you find yourself in a little controversy because listen, I know you weren't the one who said close the borders, but that was so easy. You should have just gone in front of the media in Canada and just been like, yeah, I said close the borders because I don't want to go back home. I love Canada so much. You should have. That was such a layup for you. Be like, yeah, I meant, I meant I love it here so much. I want them to never let me back into America. Yeah.

Yeah. That was an eventful media session after. I don't know if you guys saw that one, but yeah, I took it on the chin a couple times.

But that had to be— was there like, you guys talk about it like the Sunday scaries, so to speak, for the guys that had to go back to Canada and the guys that didn't? Because like, it is probably a little different. You have to go face the media in Canada after you just rip their guts out, whereas Matthew gets to hang out at the fucking Elbow Room and go back to 11.

Yeah, he's on a 4-day bender. I'm sitting there just under the microscope and Yeah, that was, uh, I, I mean, me and Austin are in the same position, right? Like being captains of Canadian teams. And I remember we were texting and he watched my media because he hadn't done it yet. So just been like, all right, like, this is what happened to me, so good luck with yours. But yeah, that was, uh, that was an experience for sure.

Yeah. Do you guys ever, like, when you're, when you're dealing with that with the media up in Canada Canada. I feel like you guys should just be like, listen, I play hockey, I'm a hockey player. They're asking about like international relations right now. It's like, I play hockey, I won a gold medal, I had the time of my life. Like, if you're looking to me for any sort of like political analysis of the situation, you are so far gone that it—

that we're off the planet right now. Yeah, I mean, it's just— I always came back to like, just unfortunate we just achieved our childhood Yeah, it's like, that's what we should be talking about.

And, um, but yeah, you know, you should have hit him with— you should have hit it to, to quote, uh, Dana Beers, you should have hit him with the 'that's baseball.' Stop. Yeah, just one of the— you know, everyone— I bet you the Canadian media watch and subscribe to the Yuggs Station. Just hit him with a quick 'that's baseball,' and they're like, 'Oh, I get it.

That makes sense.' Hey Brady, I'm not using this as a recruiting tool because I don't want to get fined for whatever it's called, but we don't get asked those questions down in Florida. Just nice easy questions.

Business.

You just hang out, play the game.

That's baseball.

That's baseball.

That's it.

Shout out to Ada Beers. Uh, do you guys— did you guys end up loving the song Free Bird as much as we do?

Oh yeah, we heard Free Bird, courtesy of Red, White and Blue, Dream On in rotation 4 times in a row. Born in the USA at 11 all night.

Every time it just kept getting better.

DJ job, it just kept getting better for us. But I could only imagine people people be like, all right, I've heard this song 15 times. Like, I doubt, but all the— like Free Bird, like I still listen to it every day. Like I'm listening to all those tunes every day just to bring me back.

So, uh, I will say it worked out. I listen, I listen to 2 songs every single day, but now like not the whole day, but there's 2 videos that I watch pretty religiously every day right now. It's the Dream On video that our team sang in the locker room after. That's the video that I don't think anybody's seen, and we're gonna keep that. We're gonna keep that pretty tight because it's— I mean, it's just a legendary video. But the one video that I've watched a lot that a lot of people have seen is JT Miller singing Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue at 11 with no music in the background. Majestic voice. I think that is the funniest fucking video ever. And I just— I think— I mean, he's a legend too.

So that was a hilarious time. The— I was like I said, when you guys did your podcast recap, I was laughing. Brady, you said that you and JT Miller were sitting next to each other in a pregame when coach said— what was the exact quote? Like, play smart or something?

He's like, we're gonna have emotional control. Like, he did it like expecting to like go across the room, just stopped right at Millsy.

Emotional control, just kept hovering. Hey Millsy, was he talking about us? Couldn't tell.

That's the shit every day. Like, something like that. Like, even random like points and meetings, like, we were just laughing about it.

Yeah, yeah. What was the, uh, what was the pregame speech like before the gold medal game? Is that something that you guys have talked about? Like, I, I, I wish that there had been a camera in the locker room that I'd seen to like really get the sense of, of what that moment was like. Was it heavy? Was it tense? Or was it like just, you know, free balling and loose?

I, I think it was— I mean, I think it was pretty emotional in the sense like him talking about— we're talking about Sully here— just talking about about the, like, the support we have from home. Um, he mentioned that Torts's, uh, Torts's son, uh, who's in the military, um, you know, all of them were watching. Um, just the millions at home that have reached out. And I just remember him always hitting, like, us with the American swagger. I mean, we're built different, this team. Use it. Like, the whiskey drinkers— there's no milk drinkers, we're all whiskey drinkers— which I still— I think he meant like just the crazy personalities we have.

And I'm still trying to figure out what he said.

I'm assuming he means like we're just a bunch of animals that would just do everything possible to win and some serious, serious ultra competitors. And I just remember the American swagger, the American swagger, and then his speech before overtime just saying, guys, who's going to be this hero in here? Who's going to be the hero that everyone's going to talk about? And and, uh, I remember him just mentioning, you know, before the game, our lives have a chance to change forever after this game. And, uh, it just— all the emotions were hit, um, you know, the excited, there was still nerves, um, but just the excitement after that speech going out and play. I mean, I don't know if it was necessarily like the, the Herb Brooks miracle one that you— everyone sees in the movies, but it was, it was pretty close and it was awesome.

Yeah, yeah. All right, boys, I got one last question, uh, Rohback question, rhoback.com, promo code TAKE, 20% off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. rowback.com, promo code TAKE. Like I said, we got Matthew and Brady Kachuk, awesome, uh, interview. You guys have a great podcast, go listen to it, Wingmen, with, uh, the two of them. Uh, you mentioned The Miracle. Dave did say before the gold medal game, he's like, you're a loser if you watch Miracle. Uh, you know, leading into the, the gold medal game, did anyone on the team pop it on during the week?

I think some guys watched a documentary, the one that just came out, and I know we watched it before we got there, and that was unbelievable seeing the behind the scenes.

Um, I think it was Troach, wasn't it?

Troach and Charlie maybe didn't— yeah, didn't see it, and they watched it, and, uh, I think that got the juices flowing by watching a documentary. But there's— there wasn't a watch party, um, for anything But I mean, just, we had Rizzo there the night before, Mike Rizzioni, um, at dinner, and he just, he talked about, uh, like how this is just for some guys a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity ahead of us. And, and, uh, he's sick and tired of being the last team in 1980, even though business is booming. That's what he said. He's like, it's, it's your guys' time, and, and, um, it's our time to to change the game in USA Hockey for future generations.

Yeah, he got us fired up. You guys don't have to name names, but as you go back to your teams, is there one person that hit up the group chat was like, boys, I am so hungover still, I know I have to play hockey tonight, but like, I don't know, I'm gonna be able to lace them up and get out there?

Oh, there's multiple. I don't know if we're gonna name names, but I think the common thing that's being said in the group chat right now is I miss the good old days. That's the comment. Um, we kept, we kept saying that, we kept saying that line, like, obviously from The Office, but we kept saying that all tournament, like, boys, these are the good old days. Like, and we would just laugh.

Um, we had the countdown going, all right boys, we have 5 more days of the good old days.

2 hours, we have 1 hour.

That's awesome.

Have you guys thought about maybe showing up 40 years from now, we're in the Olympics again, and now you guys are the old guys giving the message, hey, you boys can do it, I believe in you?

Yeah, I mean, hopefully, hopefully it doesn't take another '46 for the United States to win. But, you know, I think really all we're thinking about right now is like how great of an honor it was. And hopefully we can play in a few more. The best on best. I mean, it's been a shame that this was all of our first time going. I think they completely missed out on a few opportunities with that. I think everybody, especially from the outside watching, like best on best is how it should be. So hopefully we have a chance to compete in a few more. More and, you know, can win a few more. But, um, I think we have talked about it, like, just the honor and what this meant for USA Hockey, um, that they'll be talking about our team for, for generations. So I'm sure in 40, 50 years they'll, they'll, they'll love for us to, to come talk to that, that group of players. But, um, it really was a life-changing tournament, a life-changing game, um, a life-changing gold medal. And we're just so honored to represent the greatest country in the world. And with that group of guys, it made it that better.

Oh, I forgot, I have one last, last question, um, because I have to ask, because people would really—

yeah, final 5.

This would be really— people really pissed if we don't. They'll be like, oh, you're, you know, softballs, all this. Do you guys want to apologize for winning, uh, on 3-on-3? Because there was a lot of Canadians who were very upset about that.

Would you like to apologize for having it be 3-on-3 and winning the gold medal that way? Listen, they— listen, they won 4-on-4 in 2010.

Nobody was complaining.

Good point.

Good point. They had it. They had They have Makar, McDavid, McKinnon out there. I'm sure they would have taken that at the beginning. I'm sure they were so confident going in.

You got to do— listen, I'm going to give you the PR 101 again. What you got to do is anytime there's something that you can't actually change yourself, you got to say that if you could, you would change it. So right after we won, when I saw the Canadians crying, I was like, hey, just a heads up, if I could go and change it to 5 on 5, I would. Unfortunately, I'm just a guy sitting on my couch right now, so there's nothing I can do. But just so you know, I would. That's winning with class. So anytime that happens, you guys should just be like, yeah, listen, we would change it if we could, but we can't. Yeah.

That's almost like adding fuel to the fire.

Oh yeah. Of course it is.

Of course it is. They know you're messing with them. Of course it is. That's something Brady and I would do.

Yeah.

But I don't know. I don't know. I think they, I think they hit it. I think they hit it pretty good. The whole tournament was crazy. It's just so, it's so different though. Like, I don't know, like Brady, what you think, like especially after playing playoffs last you're like, the, the difference between that and a best of 7 is just like night and day. Like, it's just such a different type of game, different type of tournament. They're all game 7s. So, um, I really enjoyed it though. It was a blast. I, I'm really looking forward to the next best on best.

Yeah, yeah, so are we. Yes, thank you guys. Thank you.

It was so much fun to watch you guys. Yeah, it was, it was, it was such a blast. And, uh, and Brady, when you're in Chicago at the end of March, you got to come by again. Perfect.

Yeah, perfect. Yeah, if we're there, I'm there.

I had a lot of fun last year. Yeah, you guys are the best. Thank you, everyone. Go listen to Wingmen, and, uh, hopefully we see you guys soon.

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And now here's Seth MacFarlane. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest. It is the creator of Family Guy, Ted 2, which is out on March 5th on Peacock, uh, Ted season 2, excuse me, uh, out on Peacock March 5th. And he's created a bunch of stuff that we absolutely love. It's Seth MacFarlane. Seth, thank you for joining us. Uh, what number interview are we today?

You're like, uh, like 39.5. Okay, okay, all right, because I was gonna say the last 0.5, the last one didn't go so well, I walked out, or he walked out, one of us walked out. It was just a catastrophe. But now we're moving on to Pardon My Take. Yeah.

And, uh, and, and it's a chance to reset. I— because we've been doing this a very long time, and we could tell when it's, uh, one of the junkets where you're just going down the line.

Yeah.

So when did, when did you begin? When was the first Pardon My Take?

10 years ago. Take pilot? Yeah, 10 years ago.

We've been doing it for 10 years ago. Pretty much today. Yeah, almost the exact day. 2016 on Leap Day. So we're not really sure how old that makes us because it came out February 29th.

Every day on a weekday? Yeah, uh, Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

Okay, yeah, yeah, that's, that's a nice schedule.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Because people— I mean, we're pretty dumb, uh, so people don't want to hear us that much.

You know what, join the club.

So this will be perfect. Yeah. All right, so you're on like the, you know, hour whatever of doing all these interviews. What's the dumbest question you've gotten so far?

So I ask the same question. The dumbest question I've gotten so far, uh, where are you, where are you guys broadcasting from?

Chicago.

Chicago. The dumbest question I've got is, what's the capital of Chicago? Okay, the Bean.

Okay.

And I said, and I said, my God, guys, Chicago's a city.

Yeah.

Okay, Chicago is the capital of, of Wisconsin.

Right, I've got a, uh, a pretty— I said I've got a dumb question, but I think you might have a smarter answer than the question is, uh, because I've always wondered when it comes to animated shows like you've created throughout the years how you come up with the rules for who can hear who and what characters can hear other characters and understand them, but then some characters, they can talk and we can understand them, but the other people can't. How do you come up with those rules? And is it—

is that a fun part of No, it's not fun at all, because there's always a situation where you want the person for whom you've established a rule to be able to hear somebody who they cannot hear, and then the rules forbid that. It kind of evolved. Initially, nobody could really understand Stewie, and then we were like, "Oh, okay, Chris can understand Stewie, and Brian can understand Stewie." And that was— we gave ourselves a little bit of leeway in that regard. I, I'm not huge on the— I tend to subscribe to the Muppets, uh, philosophy that like, look, it's a frog, it's a pig, it's a bear, it's a Gonzo, um, everybody can understand them. This is the world you live in and just kind of go with it.

Yeah, yeah. I had a question, uh, about Family Guy because we're of the age— we're both 41, so we were in that sweet spot where I, I distinctly remember remember almost feeling like it was illegal getting the DVDs of Family Guy after you'd gotten canceled, be like, you got to check this out, you got to see this stuff, you got to get the good stuff. And then having it come back, how did it— how did that go down where they were like, hey, our bad? Because that doesn't really happen in, in show business, in, in that industry where something gets canceled and then gets brought back. It's like, hey, we kind of screwed this up because it's actually a really good show.

Yeah, um, I, I, I don't know that there's any precedent or or whatever you call the, the thing after the precedent. Uh, for that, I, I think Family Guy is, is sort of—

it's a unique case.

Um, I was so young when that happened that I, that I was, um, it just seemed normal to me. It's like, oh, I guess this happens all the time, like shows get canceled and they go away and then they come back. Um, I was under a deal with Fox, with 20th, the whole time, so I, I You know, it—

there was never a point where I was out on the street.

And right before that deal ended, they said, listen, this thing is doing very well on DVD.

That's how long ago it was. Uh, we're—

we want to kind of sneak it back into production, was the way they put it.

Oh yeah.

Um, yeah.

And, and here we are. Yeah, it was many, many years later, and you're— now you have all these, you know, other projects. I almost said side project, but do you feel that way where It's like Ted, you know, movies, and now it's the, the show that season 2 is, is coming out. But is it like, hey, the main thing was always Family Guy and I get the— I'm lucky enough to be able to do all these other things? Or how does that, how does that kind of work in your brain?

Uh, 100%, exactly like you just described it. Yeah, it's, it's like Family Guy really is— it remains the mothership that allows me to experiment and to try things. You know, there would be no Orville if Family Guy hadn't allowed it. Family Guy, it is the— it's the safety net that allows me the luxury of fucking up.

Yeah, which is great to have. Like, you get to really experiment with some other stuff. It is, it's a gift. Yeah. Do you, uh, do you find yourself ever like saving stuff? You're like, man, that's a, that's a really good joke I just wrote. I don't know if I want to use it on like a new series that I'm not sure if it's going Or are you like, maybe that's the best time to use it?

Not, not especially.

The only thing that I, that I keep in my, in my quiver, um, is the Family Guy movie. That's, that's the one thing that, like, if things ever get so bad that I really need this, yeah, it's gonna be there.

Yeah, yeah. Um, I have a question about your music. I, I, I— the idea that you were able to to like revive Frank Sinatra, for a lack of a better term, and all the music that, uh, had sat and waited and that he wasn't able to make before he died. Can you explain that process? Because it is so awesome. For people who don't know, you made an album. It is, uh, you, you were basically like not given, but you were— you worked with Frank Sinatra Jr. You're able to access all of, all of his like old files and everything, all his old music. That's so cool. How did that all, like, transpire?

You know, that was— I mean, Frank Sinatra Jr. did several episodes of Family Guy, um, and he became a great friend to the show. And when he passed away, the stewardship of all of the orchestrations, all of the charts that Frank Sinatra, uh, had in his library, uh, fell to his Frank Jr.'s sister And she called me and she said, "Would you want to acquire these things?" And I said, "Hell yeah." And this is like 1,200 boxes worth of stuff. And most of it is, you know, things you've heard, and some of it are fragments of television recordings from the '50s and '60s and '70s that are, you know, 30 seconds long. But a very small part of that library consisted of songs and arrangements that he never recorded that were right in that sweet spot. There was a song that was cut from the Come Fly With Me album that was in there. There was a song that was cut from the Only the Lonely album, which, if you're a Sinatra fanatic, is probably his greatest ballad album, uh, with the exception of Wee Small Hours.

Don't me.

Um, it, it's, um, there was a treasure trove of about maybe 60 songs that were, um, you know, it's like if you're a Beatles fan, it's like when, when, uh, when they wrote Revolver, there was a song and they cut from the album and here it is. It's, it's that equivalent. So yeah, to re-record, to record those songs that had never been touched was, was a gift. And we, I mean, we were very serious about it. We brought in a combination of musicians from London and a combination of musicians from LA and recorded at Skywalker Ranch at their studio up there, which is one of the best studios in the country. Um, and really, you know, treated it with a— with an awareness of what it was that we had.

And, and, uh, yeah, and then that became Lush Life, the album that we put out. Yeah, kind of a lot of pressure to be recording Sinatra songs too. Like, I imagine that you were very critical of your own performances, wanted to get everything perfect perfectly because they were, you know, Sinatra songs that you were breathing new life into.

Yeah, yeah, that, that's, that's, that's— I mean, I'm, I'm from Connecticut, so self-criticism kind of comes with the— with, with, you know, was with me from birth. Like, you're conditioned to think that nothing you do is good enough, and so that pushes you harder and harder and harder.

So that, that all worked out pretty well. Yeah, you seem like a, uh, like a very busy guy. You've got so many projects, and ideally, if you start a new project, it will be successful and you'll continue to work on that, but then you are also like, you've got that creative side to your brain where you want to come up with something new. And at some point your plate gets totally full and you're like, how can I, how can I even find the time to come up with a brand new idea with all these series being successful that you're working on? Like, do you have any free time right now or is it all dedicated to, uh, to figuring out either the next thing or just keeping all the plates spinning?

Gentlemen, here's a little number I tossed up recently in the carabinero. Doesn't it all be nice to have a penis? Isn't it frightfully good to have a dong? It's swell to have a stiffy, it's divine to own a dick, from the tiniest little tadger to the world's biggest prick.

I'm so sorry, guys.

What was that?

Yeah, what was—

what was the question?

What was that music about?

We were listening to Penis the musical?

That's Monty Python's The Meaning of Life. Oh, okay, okay. You had that just on—

you have a soundboard that you're sitting on?

No, no, that's somebody calling me. Oh, that's your ringtone? I was like, I was like, fuck, is he— that was his answer to the question about like— because it kind of fits, the meaning of life.

If I had planned that, I couldn't have planned that more perfectly.

Yeah, I was like, damn, this guy is That's so sharp.

Damn, I was gonna ask you what your favorite Monty Python song was.

I am— go ahead, ask me a question one more time so I can answer responsibly.

Yeah, what is your favorite song about penises? I mean, it's, it's the Penis Song from Monty Python.

Good answer, good answer.

I don't know that there are that many songs about penises.

Uh, My Ding-a-Ling by Chuck Berry comes to mind. That's true, My Ding-a-Ling. Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. Uh, the penis song, Detachable Penis. God, well, I guess there are a lot, aren't there? There's a few songs about dicks. Yeah, no, it's been— everyone's got one.

All right, not everyone, but we've had dicks for forever.

Half the people do.

Yeah, yeah, we have, we have for a long time.

That's very true. A long time.

I see you're a student of history as well.

Yeah, since the first primordial organism crawled out of the ooze, we have had dicks. Have you, uh, have you thought about doing a Black Mirror episode episode? What do you mean doing? Like, I don't know, what do you— what would you like to do with a Black Mirror episode?

Like writing, acting, producing?

I don't know, I don't know, man. I, I, I, I've met Charlie Brooker on two occasions and he's, he's an awesome guy. Look, I'll do— I mean, Black Mirror, I'm a huge fan. Of course I'm a huge fan.

Um, I, I would, I would, I would be willing to entertain any kind of offer. Yeah. Are you ready for the dumb question that you probably haven't gotten from anyone else today? The best part of the day. Okay, animation.

How?

Animation, how? Yeah, how, how do you do it? I don't get it. Very, very slowly. Was it very, very— has it gotten easier, obviously, with technology and everything, but like, how, how, how long does it take to do like an animated show?

It has not gotten— I mean, if you're, if you, if you're into CGI animation, it's gotten easier, but I bet even then it It hasn't. You know, certainly with something like Ted, yeah, do you have to draw each in-between and then ink each in-between? No. But no, animation itself has not gotten any easier. It still requires the human brain to make a judgment call every few frames with regard to what's right for the moment.

Okay, so how long does it take, like, to do an episode, like a 22-minute episode of an animated show? I, I think that's one of those things we just are like, oh yeah, of course, the animated show, that takes a lot of work.

It takes about 10 months to a year to do each episode of an animated show for TV.

Jesus. Yeah, that's, that's insane. That's a lot longer than I, than I would have thought that it would have taken. Like, after you design the characters and you've got— I guess it's not as simple as like you've already got them built so you can just make them move around. You have to actually sit down.

Because if you're, if you're an actor and you go like this, then you do that, and that's it. And camera captures it, and you're done. If you're an animator, is it— what's the tone of the scene? Is it, "I'm pleading with you," like this, or, "I'm dismissive"? Those are two different things, and each of those versions has to be timed out on what's called an exposure sheet. And that tells the animators, like, it tells them how many frames from here here to here. Is this, you know, 48 frames, or is this 12 frames?

Right. Yeah, that's crazy. I never would have— animators need more credit. There we go.

That's the big thing. They most certainly do. Yeah. By the way, let's get animation directors into the DGA.

How about that?

That's a good start. I like it. Yes, I'm on board.

What's the DGA? Yeah, you're gonna have to explain the DGA first, but we're on board. Yeah, yeah.

No, we're all in. It's been too long. No, no, they've been left out for too fucking long. The fact they're not in the DGA is absolute bullshit. Is that the digital—

the—

yes, the Directors Guild of America.

Okay, Directors Guild of America. Yeah, animation directors belong. It's— I will tell you, having directed live-action and having directed animation, I don't want to get any haters here, but it is—

it is a lot harder to do the second one, right? Yeah. All right, so who can we like tweet at? Can we just yell at anyone?

Can we just motherfuck someone? Listen, you're on Pardon My Take. You can yell at any of your fucking mics.

Yeah, okay, all right.

But is there somebody—

is there a specific, like, person? Dude, who's the op right now?

You know what, yell it at, um, yell it at Victor Garber.

Okay, Victor, I want you to listen to me, Victor Garber. All my homies, you know goddamn good and well that animators should be included in the DGA. And it's— you're a crook for not doing it. It's disgusting. What you're doing is you're taking money and respect out of people's pockets. There's no honor in that, uh, Garber. Mr. Garber. And I use that term loosely.

Oh, it's— no, it is. It is Mr. By the way, it's Sir Victor Garber.

Do you know that? Oh, so now you've made an enemy of a knight.

Now I'm beefing with a knight. Yeah, I feel like we're yelling at the wrong guy. The guy in the Titanic. Yeah, you set us up. By the way, you've just described—

you've just described America from time immemorial.

Memorial. I feel like we're yelling at the wrong guy. Yeah, yeah, I feel like I'm just— I was just like, wait, this isn't the guy. But hey, Victor Garber, we, we don't take anybody back.

Yeah, we don't take anything. Is that the piece of shit that didn't put the lifeboats on?

Yeah, no, he's the—

I think he was the captain of the Titanic. Oh, the captain. By the way, good for you, good for you.

Yeah, that's the guy, that's the guy who, uh, you know, who said, uh, who said within an hour, within 2 hours, maybe 1, Titanic will Founder. Yeah, I always thought there should have been one guy in that scene who would have been like, does that—

is that bad?

Yeah, is that good or bad?

Founder?

Is that like— you know, it means sink. Yeah, Titanic will sink.

Okay, got it.

Great. All right, so we're in trouble. All right, so, so then, so we know now, uh, animated. How, how long does it make— like, for, for Ted season 2, by the way, out March 5th on Peacock— how long does it make to that— make— how long does it take to make that season.

Like, you probably just introduced Peacock to a whole bunch of people.

I did. Yeah, yeah, the cock. We call it the cock, just so you know. We call it the cock.

We've always called it the cock, right?

Right. They pay us in cock coin.

I like that. I can't believe that. Isn't that— isn't that, uh, yeah, there's not much we can do with it, but it, you know, their hearts are in the right place. Yeah, they, they, they have Netflix and chill, we have Peacock and fuck.

Yeah, I like that. Like, I like that. All right, so how long does it take though to make a season?

Like, what's the process?

All in about a Jeez, man, you're busy.

About a year. It takes, it takes, it takes— we finished, um, photography on this season January of 2024.

Oh wow. And sorry, sorry, 2025.

Yeah.

How much time do you spend going back and like, uh, back to kind of a little bit about animating the shows in general, but when you get the voice actor lined up, the guy that— or the girl that you like to, to voice this character, do you ever go back and change anything physically about the character you had in mind because you think yourself, this, this voice that this actor is doing is a little bit different than what I had originally envisioned? Or how does that process work, lining them up?

Do you mean for, for a show like Ted or an animated show?

I guess maybe more so for an animated show.

Yeah, yeah. No, you— animated show, you can change anything at almost any time if you have it in your budget. Like, if, if you're not happy with a voice, if you're not happy with a, you know, a gesture or something that exists in the animation that, that, you know, is wrong for the moment. Yeah, you can change anything you want.

It's, it's very, uh, malleable. Has there been like an example of somebody that came in, read for a character, that did it in a way that you didn't think was going to fit, and they changed your mind about how you saw that character?

Yeah, yeah, I'd, I'd have Oh, you guys in your fucking podcasts. Yeah, who? Tell me who.

Who fucked up so badly that you want to out them on Pardon My Take? No, and I'm not saying like—

I'm saying somebody that impressed you.

Yeah. Oh, that impressed the other way. Yeah, that, that made you be like, hey, this person did it really well.

I mean, I never would have saw— I, I never would have seen Giovanni Ribisi as the bad guy in Ted, and yet he kind kind of blew me away with his performance. Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, strangely, yeah, there are people who've come in— I mean, look, Mark Wahlberg is a great example. Mark Wahlberg in the Ted animated series. Guy's never, to my knowledge, done animation voiceover in his life and came in and just crushed it. So, yeah, it does happen. And we had no idea. It's like, look, this guy's great on camera. Camera. He was great in Ted. He's great in Tattoo. He's great in the 80 million movies that he's done. Can he do animation voiceover? And, uh, and he's— he knocked it out of the park. And, and, and that, uh, that show comes out, I guess, later this year or early 2027, my guess.

Yeah. So knowing how creative you are and like the insane amount of work you've done and things you've are you able to turn your brain off? Because I feel like a brain like that, you're just— is it, is it always going?

You're always thinking of new things? Yeah, it's the worst at night. Okay. Yeah, sleep is— it's, it's the, it's the trade-off. You, you wake up at 3:00 in the morning every night, and getting back to sleep is very difficult. Yeah, it's, it's tough to shut the brain off. It'd be nice to— that's what, that's what Xanax is for.

I mean, who I'm kidding. Yeah, yeah, because it's also like, I was reading about it, like, you know, you started writing a comic strip at 9 years old. Like, it's— I'm always fascinated by people who know exactly what they want to be their entire life and then have it work out. It doesn't really usually— you know, I want to be a firefighter or an astronaut when I was 9 years old. So, but, but so this was kind of always the plan, is it? Was there ever a moment where you deviated off that? You're like, no, this This is how my brain's wired.

This is what I'm gonna do. There was a brief moment when I got done with, I mean, I was an animation major in college at the Rhode Island School of Design. There was a brief moment where I had applied to the Boston Conservatory of Music for their musical theater program and had been accepted and was all set to go. And then I got a job offer from Hanna-Barbera, which is now Cartoon Network. And took it, uh, that was sort of a crossroads where I was like, you know, I'm— I love this stuff, but I'm gonna have a chance to do all of this if I take this offer from LA. So yeah, I mean, it's— it's this— this animation is interesting because it encompasses so many different disciplines. It's acting, it's writing, It's music, it's visual arts. It's kind of the one medium where you kind of get to work every muscle that you might possibly want to work when it comes to entertainment.

So I, I, I did land in the right place. Who were your, uh, your biggest influences, like the, the favorite, uh, cartoonists or your favorite comic strips growing up?

I mean, I loved— I mean, like, hands down Gary Larson.

The Far Side.

Hands down, like, without question. I mean, you know, like, in my— when I was really, really young, you know, strips like Garfield and, and, you know, Charles Schulz did Peanuts and all that, you know. I mean, I, I read the, the funnies every weekend, but Gary Larson was where I really kind of perked up and was like, oh, this is, this, this is more my speed. And yeah, there's a lot of his influence in Family Guy, for sure.

Yeah, I always thought that him almost being able to tell a story in one single panel was a very underrated thing that most cartoonists couldn't do.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think a while back we had pitched the idea to, you know, Gary Larson and his estate of, uh, of doing a Far Side series where we, we would take a panel and reverse engineer it from past and future into a half-hour kind of mini-play.

Hmm.

It wasn't like entirely— they didn't quite see it in the moment, but, um, that's probably something we should pitch again because I— yeah, it's like when I think back to so many of those, those panels, it was Yeah, there's, there's so, as you say, there's so much of a story there that is implied that, that, uh, that you don't see.

Try to make Cow Tools into, uh, 35 minutes. How do you stretch that out?

Yeah, by the way, the one, the one panel that he had to write letters explaining what that was— Cow Tools was the most misunderstood Far Side panel ever.

Yeah.

Do you, do you still get letters, like handwritten letters, from people that are upset with something that you put I don't get handwritten letters.

I don't really get, you know, it's funny, I don't get a whole lot of hate at this point. Maybe I've just inspired that by saying that, but no, it's, you know, at this stage, it's, there was a point where broadcast standards at Fox would send us an occasional letter just for laughs.

Yeah.

But it's been a while since I've seen a handwritten letter that has,, you know, has, has been filled with vitriol about a specific Family Guy gag or Ted gag.

Yeah, yeah. Was there one in particular, like, thinking back to, you know, when, when the show first came out— Family Guy, I'm speaking about—

like, one joke or one thing that irritated the most people for, for no good reason? I don't remember. I do remember seeing a, a social media post at one point that said, look, you've made fun of made fun of mentally disabled people, you've made fun of the races, you've made fun of this, that, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, a long list. But autism is where I draw the line.

That was the message.

And it was like, that's the one that sticks in my head. But, you know, so look, everybody has their, you know, button.

Yeah, everyone has their button. Also, social media is like the—

I mean, no one was built for having that many opinions thrown at you all the time. We were, as a species, we are not equipped to handle, we shouldn't be talking to each other as much as we do.

No.

Correct, correct. And just having like, hey, here's a thought, and then everyone responding to it immediately, that's just not natural.

Yeah, humans have not— Wasn't there some sociologist that reminded us recently that we are, as a species, species, our brains are equipped to handle like 300 people, right, in our immediate circle.

Anything beyond that, we just can't— we can't process. Yeah, I've always said there's something that's— that's got to be super unhealthy about having like the ability for a million people to tell you that you suck at once. Yeah, I don't think that's not healthy. That's not a good thing for, uh, for, for our own brains to deal with.

No, but you're right, Xanax. Does it— does it, uh, does it ever get annoying when people ask you to do voices on Command. Is this a preamble to you doing just that?

Oh yeah, of course.

Pardon my take.

Pardon my take. What is it exactly that you want me to pardon? What is it you're setting up? This is so bloody offensive because right now you've been relatively innocuous. There's nothing you've said that I couldn't see on, you know, the Jay Leno Show. Pardon my take. You know what? Pardon my indifference. Pardon my indifference for the blandness of what you have thrown my way thus far.

You know, shock me. Shock me. Make me feel something. That was wonderful.

I do have a question. Oh, I was going to say, what did Peter Griffin think about Bad Bunny, his halftime performance? Bad Bunny. Bad Bunny.

I had had so many beers. What was that like? Like, what am I on?

The East fucking Coast? Let me tell you how many Meisterbraus— that was my dad used to drink—

how many Meisterbraus I had had by the time Bad Bunny came on.

Why don't they start with the fucking halftime show?

Because I'm dead. I'm asleep by the time they get to the—

you know, it's— I'm done.

I'm out. I'm unconscious. Somebody has to drag me up to bed by my fucking feet. Oh, thank you. That was, uh, That was great, and I apologize that I had to ask it that way where I pretended that I was cooler than everyone else, and then I was like, no, I'm actually just as much of a loser as everyone else.

We all are.

We're all trying to pretend that we're, you know, look.

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All right, so terrible question, that went so fast.

What shorts am I supposed to buy? You can buy the hoodie, the hoodie like that, the joggers, the shorts, rowback.com.

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What?

Yeah, you heard me, r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com. Pretending you don't know, but you're probably— yeah, you probably have a full of Robux.

We know, like, like the Greek letter rho. R-H-O. Yeah, exactly.

I've seen your Get Ready With Me TikToks. Yeah, you got it.

Look at you.

Now you just gotta say— you gotta say promo code TAKE at the end. I say what?

You have promo code TAKE.

Promo code tank? TAKE. TAKE. T-A-K-E. You just— that was— we just got like a million dollar worth of ads. We're just gonna— we're gonna put that together. We're gonna slice splice it and we'll be like, hey, Roback, we got Seth MacFarlane do an ad for you. You're gonna be scrolling on Instagram and you're gonna see that. It's like, that's gonna be like the—

that'll be like the promo version of like a ransom letter is what you're gonna splice together.

Yeah, exactly.

Like, oh, all right, so last question. Okay, yeah, last stupid question. When did you find out that there was a bunch of horny guys online that wanted to fuck Lois? Wow, good question. Just now.

Oh, you didn't know until now? I mean, I guess, I guess what I would say is like, picture the guy, you know, who's been there all day at his slanted desk with his light board drawing each frame of Lois. Probably hasn't been out in the sun in a while. Um, you know, picture me, picture me, guys. If you're hot for Lois, picture me sitting there drawing Lois.

That's really who you're jerking off to. Yeah, I love it.

That's good. That's a good message. Uh, Seth, you're the man. We really appreciate your time. And, uh, everyone go watch Ted season 2, March 5th on Peacock. Thank you.

Pardon my take.

Appreciate it. Have fun, man. Thanks so much, man.

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365 Copilot. Learn more at microsoft.com/m365copilot. Okay, let's wrap up. We got our residual 10-year anniversary takes from the AWLs.

So we wanted to hear from them.

Hank. 10 years of PMT. Oh, Hank just saluted us. That was awesome. Thank you.

Thank you for saluting us. Howdy, sir.

Appreciate that.

I started listening to PMT to listen to Big Cat rant about the Bears in 2017 after the Trubisky draft. I was 14 years old, started listening weekly for NFL recaps. Slowly became every episode. I've been listening throughout high school and college, and now today I'm 22, will be 23 on Sunday, and I just realized how this show has been there for what feels like my whole life. Love you guys. You've inspired my buddies and I to post on social media and record our own clips, takes, just for fun. I love that.

Uh, so life's come full circle. That's incredible. It's very cool.

That's, that's scary as well because it's like a mind molded by our stupidity I'm curious to know what your take on Mitch was after the draft.

I forget that. I think I was in because I liked him. No choice but to be. Well, I liked it. No, I liked him in college. I did. There was that one game, the Georgia game. Remember the first week of the season when we bet on UNC because Caleb told us to and then he threw it out of bounds on fourth down to end the game? Hank, do you remember that? So I was out on him for that, but I liked him. Yeah. I love, I love Mitch. Yeah, I, yeah, I was in on Mitch the— but yeah, 14, man. Thank you so much, dude.

Appreciate you listening. That's, that's incredible. I'm just— yeah, I'm humbled to know that there's kids out there that have taken up the take game. I think that should be our— I want, I want the next generation to have takes that would make me shit myself and die. I want, I want the next generation to be better. It's like, you know how you see like Kareem passing the torch to LeBron?

I want all of our stupidity records to be shattered. Shattered. I, I want, um, someday, like, a goal for this podcast. Our final boss should be some detailed, researched article that is like the effective part of my take on sports fans. Like a negative thing. Like, why, why has there been a sudden rise in people screaming shoot the puck at NHL games? It's like, well, we can trace it back to all these kids that were listening when they were 12, and now they're fucking idiots idiots as grown adults and they're going to games, they're saying that they're like, what, what, Max? We don't talk about the NHL.

We say shoot the puck.

We don't talk about the NHL enough for that. I think the shoot the puck guys were doing okay. Yeah, on their own before.

So I think we've, we've boosted them.

Okay, so how about this one?

That didn't matter. Why, why did this— why did this NBA player— is this NBA player having a mental breakdown? Because there's no other way to explain explain his attempt to dunk from the free throw line during a free throw.

Giannis.

And they're like, actually, there is a reason. He was 9 years old when he listened to PFT and Big Cat have an actual debate about this for far too long.

That plays. I want that. I started out listening to the show with a long-term girlfriend who I ended up getting married to. Yeah, nice. Currently going through a divorce with that guy and re-entering dating. Okay.

But hey, at least I got to listen to you idiots 3 times a week. Yeah, maybe, maybe guys on chicks gave him some bad advice. Yeah, or good advice.

Yeah, maybe good.

Maybe if you hate her, good advice. You know what, this is for the best. Yeah, it's for the— you got married too young. There's a little guy that we know that got off to a bad start in a relationship where it wasn't a great fit, and he just won the Super Bowl with the Seattle Seahawks. Okay, so you're just the Sam Darnold. Of podcast listeners.

Very well put. Don't get mono. But yeah, sorry that happened. If you're— if there's any chance that you're gonna get back with her, and if there is no chance, like, dude, you're way better off.

My first listen was the Joe Burrow Coach O interview after the natty. I haven't missed an episode since, even through the Love Is Blind recaps.

That was COVID. That's not our fault. That was COVID.

If I had them on, there was no sports. We had to talk about documentaries.

We had to talk about Tiger King. If I had to ask a question, if you had to pick one episode that added the most new listeners, what do you think it would be? Oh, good question.

Honestly, might be Dungeons and Dragons. I don't know.

I think— I would think it would be one of our earlier episodes with a big guest.

I want to say Joe Buck.

Joe Buck could be one.

I think Joe Buck, SCP. SCP, Joe Buck. I got another one, uh, Jim Harbaugh. The first time we interviewed him at Michigan, for sure. That was one where we looked at the charts or at the data that we got behind the scenes of how many people listen to that one. And the data was screwed up, but it did tell us like 4 million people listened to that episode, which was not at all true. But it was definitely like a bigger, bigger show than our normal ones were. So I would say maybe that one.

Yeah. My favorite episode you guys ever did was like the Fyre Fest breakdown.

Oh yeah.

That was just you guys and Marcello just breaking that.

No, it was before.

Oh yeah.

COVID just breaking down both documentaries, how much of a scumbag Billy McFarland is.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I think it's, it's got to be one of those early ones.

I still a segment.

I do feel. Yeah. I should text him. I do feel like the Joe Buck one, though, that's the one that I, I, I'll still get people commenting, being like, been a listener since Joe Buck, when you change my opinion on Joe Buck. Joe Buck really owes us his entire life.

When you, when you really break it down, no one knew who Joe Buck was before us. No one knew what Mount Rushmore was.

Nobody knew who Joe Buck was. I became an AWL 8 years ago. I started listening when I was in a very low point in my life, and I truly believe listening to y'all show brought me out of depression. Hank's Listerine sleeping medicine and Obgin might have been the hardest I've ever laughed, except when Big Cat and PFT gave relationship advice during Guys on Chicks.

Uh, the, the Listerine, I believe is what this guy is referring to. Uh, Listerine, NyQuil.

Yeah, two for one, and you swallow both of them. From the man who brought you Barbara Cuffalo. Yep. So you followed it up with Listerine. I was right about Barbara Cuffalo. Yeah, you were.

Yeah, 100%. So you swallowed the Listerine and and the NyQuil.

Yep.

And what about— what about the soap? What about soap and armpits? That's still valid.

What is your take on that?

I forgot. It doesn't work. Body wash doesn't work in your armpits. Yeah. Why does— why did—

but why does shampoo work in your hair? But body wash does work.

If you smell your armpits right after you wash them with body wash, it smells good.

I'm on Hank's side with this one.

Do you still wash your—

or are Tunk my Oreos? Yeah.

No, wash them.

Yeah. You washed Oreos in water?

Yeah. I love that one. That was— yeah, that was my friend, shout out Kevin.

Long time ago. Yeah. We need some more Hank and Vance. Come on, maybe get us a new one sometime in the next couple of months. Because like, I mean, Lister Quill and Barbara Cuffalo are 1A, 1B. Be greatest inventions of all time?

Car stick.

Car stick. Car stick. Yeah, yeah.

I don't think people still understand the car stick.

PFT gnome kind of flopped compared to the, uh, the Hank dog toy, but that's fine. We didn't sell as many, or we didn't have as many.

Have they arrived yet?

Yeah.

Oh yeah, no, we're getting a lot of—

I mean, a lot of tandems sold out.

People buy both. Yeah, instantly.

Okay, a lot of dog toys though.

A lot of dog toys.

Tens of thousands of dog toys.

There's more image story.

Yeah, because they sold really well. Uh, was sent a link by my friend in 2016. I listened and told publicity department of show I was on I wanted to be on it. They called back and said PMT was not interested. I then made it my life's mission to get on PMT.

Now I'm their fantasy expert.

Never give up. Yep. Thank you, Jerry. Jerry is 100% correct. We said no the first time. We're like, what, that guy, the fat kid from Stand By Me?

We tried to get out of it the last second. Like, Jerry was in the the building. Yeah, I think he was doing Wine Walk and we went up to Kelly and we said, Kelly, I don't think that we're going to do this interview.

Oh, Kelly.

Yeah, yeah, we went up to Kelly, booking Kelly, and she was like, you were fucking doing this interview.

Yeah.

Okay.

And it was a shit.

It was the best decision that we tried to get out of in our lives.

Yep. Credit to us. Credit to us. Love you, Jerry. I miss Jerry so much. It's like we go, it's the two people football leaves and I get sad because football is gone. But the two people that like I miss so much when it's not football season is Jerry and Stu Feiner because they're just, they're just everything.

I taught a college class with Stu Feiner a couple weeks ago.

By the way, Quigs, did you see Quigs tweet?

Wait, you taught a college class with Stu Feiner? He did a lecture.

Yeah. University of Illinois. I love that. Yeah, Quigg Street was spot on. I forgot this happened. We had our guests on a show like 8 years ago were John Morant and Stu Finer.

Yeah, separate interviews.

Insult graphic of me on there. What? You're, you're on the graphic?

Yeah.

What are you doing? On vacation?

Yeah, there you are. Looking good. I remember I was sitting on the toilet at my old house reading a tweet about ESPN being pissed off at some dudes for trying to rip off Part of the Interruption and First Take show. I was like, what the fuck? I like PTI, but who's ripping off the shitty First Take name? So I go into Apple Podcasts or whatever the fuck it was called back then and find the show. Been an AWL ever since. Mind-numbingly stupid but hilarious. Had open heart surgery in 2018 and you guys helped me get through.

Thanks, fellas. Fuck the Patriots.

Very cool. I like this guy, dude. Those, those, those are the best though, when we we get, you know, any type of— because I'll get DMs or people reaching out and being like, hey, I was going through a tough time and you guys were consistently there. Those are like what make my heart grow so large, where it's like, hey, it's, it's more maybe more than just idiot podcasting. Like, we actually mean something to people. That's awesome. Feels great. It really does. I hope we're that.

I hope we're that for a lot of people. Yeah. Does anybody that ever says like, I— you guys provide a valuable escape for me, right? Going through something like there is value value to that in your life. We all have those things where— where it could be something really, really stupid, but if it takes your mind off something that is really tough that you're going through, I think that's like the most valuable thing in the world.

So it's honestly awesome to hear people say that.

Never taking ourselves too seriously. I used to— I've said this before, I think a few times on the show, but I used to read those messages when I was like 22, 23 and didn't— I was like, this is— we're just fucking around in a podcast. Like, this doesn't make sense. And then And when I was going through something in my personal life and it was like I started watching other stuff as like an escape and then I like understood where it's like, I don't know these people, but I watch their stuff and it like is a great distraction for what's going on in my life.

Then it like brought it together where it's like, that's awesome that we do that for other people. And I'll say this too, it's an escape for us. Like the world is shitty. There's, you know, not saying our own personal lives are bad, But like, the world is a shitty place. The world's a tough place. There's a lot of crap going on. There's a lot of discourse that sucks. Everything. When we come in these walls, we know we're going to talk about silly, trivial things. And it does feel like an escape for us. It's like, hey, just turn it off. Turn off all the outside news and all the shit and just have some fun with the boys. So yeah, it's been just as much for us as it is for a lot of people out there. There. Okay.

Is that it?

Yep. Shout out, Jerry. Love you, Jerry. Do you guys have a favorite episode? I— next one. Next one. Yeah, I know it's semi-recency bias, but if I like close my eyes and think about the, the, the like pure essence of the show, it's us sitting in our— on an RV screaming at each other about the color of cheese. When Peter Schrager like happened to walk in. I think it was that. I think it was that. Was— did he walk in on that debate? Yeah, he did. And, and just laughing at the moment of like this guy who we love and he's a friend, but like watching someone else have to see it live.

And we get actually mad during Mount Rushmore season. I was thinking about that episode recently. I don't remember what side I was on. I was so passionate about whatever side that was, but I could see right now, I could see it.

So let me ask you, let me ask you, put your nuts on the line right now.

Is cheese yellow? It's white.

I think, I think, I think it's white. You're an idiot. Isn't that the worst when you, when you have a take and you're like, wait, I think if you go back 5 years ago, I was the exact opposite.

Another good one was, uh, on the most— yeah, I think it was the most recent Grit Week when we were on the bus and we were just in a fight with Hank because Hank thought that we had like videotaped him when he was Yeah, when he was talking in his sleep.

Yeah.

And he was upset that he'd said something, but he actually didn't say anything. Yeah. So we're in a true fight about nothing.

Yeah. With Hank.

That was, that was a great time.

Yeah.

Gaslit me. Your favorite episode is when you gaslit me.

That's, that says a lot.

Also, Max titty fucking.

Max titty fucking was good.

My fucking asshole.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's, that's always Hank's favorite.

I mean, my fucking asshole.

He still says that.

He says that to me all the time.

Fucking ass.

I don't know why I got so upset about—

I think I was upset for other reasons and that and that, you know, Max and Hank on the couch together.

Yeah. After Philly lost. Bill Walton, but not the Bill Walton. The Bill Walton interview was awesome. But the next day going to the game and having Bill Walton because we interviewed Bill Walton and I think all of us thought like that was so incredible, so much fun. But there's no way where we made an impact on him. He probably was like, I just did the dumbest thing ever. We saw him at the game and he like gave us the biggest smile and wave and I think hug.

And it was just like, oh, he actually remembers. He has smile, wave, point. And then we threw him a part of my Take tie-dye t-shirt. Yeah. Yeah.

So that was like, oh, fuck. That was like that actually, you know, he remembers us. Yeah, it's cool. All right. I like the last 20 minutes of Beer Olympics.

Oh, man. Yeah, that was something.

Yeah, I was— I was— I listened to it on every air Airplane.

The last 20 minutes.

It's so fucking funny. That's disgusting, man.

That was a mistake.

Big time. You should listen to deleted scenes from that shit. Did you mean the last, like, hour? Yeah, we've conservatively deleted 2 hours of footage from the last— the last— yeah, the Pyrrholypics, man. Okay. Good show. We're done with the 10-year stuff until our book comes out. We have all the stories on our book, everything.

Okay.

Numbers. 7, 3, 23.

Max and Zach are debating cheese colors back here. Zach is now just learning about this debate, but it's white. It's majority white. 21, 55, 56.

I hope I would. I think I would. Oh, quick, boys, quick.

43, 86.

6.

94. 94.

One more.

One more.

We got to get— sure, one more.

Do one more.

Same numbers.

I mean, it's going to take—

what? I mean, same numbers.

24.

Definitely not going to happen right now. 56. Yeah, it is.

It's going to happen right now. Seb, Colton, Jack, Shane, if you guys want to salute me and Big Cat.

Come on.

86.

43.

Some might say the other machine was rigged. Oh, 83. Shane, close.

Another loser.

Another loser.

Shit. Shit. Love you guys. Happy birthday to memes.

Memes.

And to George Pickens. You and George Pickens share a birthday? Fuck yeah.

Yeah.

Go to regular brain guys.

Love you guys.