Transcript of NFL Championship Sunday, Mark Schlereth Talking Patriots/Broncos and Rams/Seahawks, The Bills Weird Press Conference + Fyre Fest Of The Week

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On today's part of my take, presented by DraftKings, it is conference champion Championship Sunday, and we're getting ready for both games. Let's see who's going to be in Super Bowl. What Super Bowl are we on right now?

That's a good question. I don't know. Off the rip, I'm going to say I'm going to say 54.

I'm going to say 50, like 8.

I think it's 55.

56?

Man, this is bad by us.

This is really bad.

I mean, you learn it once you get to Super Bowl week. What is it? 60. This is Super Bowl 60? Sixty. Yikes. Fifty was, I think the Broncos Panthers 10 years ago.

That's an embarrassing non-ball knowing. We don't know Roman numerals. Sorry.

I was closest with 58, my first guess. Then you scared me down to 56 because you said 54.

Super Bowl Max should have been the one who answered that.

He won a Super Bowl.

I forget all the fucking numbers.

You should know you won Super Bowl 59. You got to know 59. We won Licks. You won Licks. We won Licks. Yeah, that's right.

This is Licks, right? Yeah. Is that what it is, too?

No, it's just L-X.

It's L-X.

It's just a dyslexic big person, LX. That's all it is. Just reversed. We're going to do that. Conference Championship Week. We have some national sports podcast stuff. We'll talk about it at the beginning. We got a couple more hirings, OC jobs filled. Then we have our good friend, Mark Schlarith, old-time friend. He's going to come on, and we're going to talk some more football with Stink. Then we finish off with Firefest of the Week, and it's brought to you by our friends at Microsoft. The world moves fast. Your workday, even faster. Pitching products, drafting reports, analyzing data. Microsoft 365 Copilot is your AI assistant for work. Built into Excel, PowerPoint, and other Microsoft 365 apps you use, helping you quickly write, analyze, create, and summarize. So you can cut through clutter and clear path to your best work. Learn more at microsoft/m365copilot. Learn more at microsoft. Com/m365copilot, and go get it today. Okay, let's go.

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Yeah. Yeah. Welcome to Part of My Take, presented by DraftKings. The Crown is yours. Today is Friday, January 23rd, and it's Conference Championship Weekend. Boys, we have three football games left on the schedule. We also have some national sports podcast topics we can hit before we get to the games, and we'll start in Buffalo. What the fuck was that?

I had a big takeaway from that press conference. It's We're talking about like, Pegula and Brandon Beane addressing the media.

They address the media as usually for people who missed it, when a coach gets fired, usually a day or two after, the owner and the GM or whoever's surviving, whoever survived the firings, gets in front of the media, answers some questions. The goal of the press conference, of this type of press conference, is always to give confidence that the process is going the correct way, that the decisions that were made were not made hastily, and that fans can go to sleep at night being like, You know what? We trust the guys in charge. And they did the exact opposite.

I would say your goal is to project stability in this press conference. I love these because we rarely get to see the owner's talk. Jerry Jones being the one exception, and we love it when Jerry talks. The other owners don't really address the media. They're not used to answering questions about their job, about their performance, because they have literally not had a boss, usually their entire lives. Right.

By the way, that was one of my big takeaways that Terry Pagula is, or it's not even Terry Pagula, specifically. I think that I just forgot that every owner is actually Jerry Jones. They're just Jerry Jones. They choose not to speak every week.

Yes, Jerry Jones. They're the same guys. Jerry Jones is just super confident in being Jerry Jones. Everybody else, they like to operate in silence.

Yeah, they're the same people that will get in front of a group of journalists and confidently speak on things they don't really know about and then walk off the stage and be like, That went well, right?

I've got actually an idea for this podcast, something that I've wanted to do for the entire 10-year run that we've had. I think we got to go to one of these owners meetings.

I would love to.

They wouldn't let us in. I think that they would. I think that there's no media. No, they wouldn't. Well, no, you're just in a hotel.

I thought you meant the actual. No. I was like, Yeah, I don't think we're getting in that.

Not like a league-wide meeting.

You're saying go to the hotel when the owners are there.

When they do the owners' meetings. When they do the owners' meetings, we got to go to this hotel and we got to just wait. They don't do press conferences, but they will talk to you because they'll talk to anybody. We got to stake these guys out, and we just got to have conversations with them.

I'm down.

You want to do that? Yeah, we should do it. I think we should absolutely do that. Yeah. The point is to project stability if you're Terry Pegula. You did the exact opposite of that. I'm willing to overlook a little bit of it. His daughter is playing in the Australian Open right now.

Number three tennis player of the world at one point.

So he's probably keeping Australia 2 million hours.

And he's also only been able to go to a few matches. Yeah. So everyone should just realize that. Sad guy.

Yeah.

Listen, he's made sacrifices, too.

Yeah, he's a tennis dad.

I do think there is some health things are going on. I think his wife has had health issues. That's real. Yeah, But throwing in that your daughter was once the number three tennis player in the world, that had no relevancy whatsoever to the Buffalo bills as they currently sit.

She is winning at the Australian Open. Oh, okay. So, yeah, they do the press conference, and it was a tough day if you're Keon Coleman. Oh, man. To have your boss, your boss's boss, just out of nowhere being like, Hey, just so you guys know, it wasn't his call to draft Keon Coleman. That was the old guy that we had.

Yeah, that was Sean McDermott.

There's plenty of video evidence saying that Bine was also very excited about getting Keon Coleman at the time. I don't know what's going on behind the scenes. Probably a lot has happened behind the scenes with Coleman. You usually don't healthy scratch a guy like that multiple times unless there's something.

Yeah, Bine did say, Actually, I picked him, too. To his credit, Terry Pagula essentially tried to directly throw Sean McDermott and his coaching staff under the bus, and Brandon Bine was like, Well, I am the GM. I did I was going to pick him.

My big takeaway from this press conference was maybe we actually owe Sean McDermott a lot more credit. Yeah. Maybe we owe him an apology because we remember what it was like before he got there and what he was able to do with the bills. Nothing short of miraculous. Obviously, having Josh Allen helps a lot with all that stuff. That's a very, very, very big part of it. But it does not project confidence moving forward. He must have had to do a lot behind the scenes to keep that going in the right direction.

I don't understand how... And look, we obviously have a relationship with Bill's Media and Josh, and so I like a lot of these people. I've met a lot of these people. I don't understand from the Terry Pagula side, because Brandon Bean looked like... Brandon Beane got a promotion, Sean McDermick got fired. Everyone's going to come to the conclusion that Brandon Beane is Littlefinger, right? That's just what people will conclude. That's what people will think. You can't change how people will think. That doesn't mean that he was doing anything nefarious behind the scenes. It's just unfortunate for him that he now has to have that reputation, true or not, which I would lean probably not true. Yes, so not. But that's just what he's going to... He can't fight that. You can't be like, Hey, guys, I didn't have anything to do with this. You just know the coach who has gone to the playoffs and won a playoff game six straight years and who turned around this franchise is no longer here, and there's two guys sitting there, and one of them is the owner. The other guy is going to get a lot of the ire being like, How the fuck did he survive?

Yeah, and I think that in a situation like that, if you've got a head coach, you've got a GM, and you're trying to figure out who to keep, who to move on from, they're probably both putting their best foot forward, like trying to make a case like, Hey, I drafted this guy. That turned out pretty good. That's human nature. I would be surprised if you had been going behind McDermott's back and saying, You got to fire this guy. No.

But this is how NFL franchises work, and it's just a reality of the situation. I actually, I don't want to take credit for anything I'm about to say, but I'm going to take a little bit of credit. I bought a book and I started reading a little bit of it. It's Bill Walsh's book.

That's a powerful book to buy because you hear all the coaches be like, I read Bill Walsh's book.

Yeah, right. I literally heard someone say, Yeah, as Bill Walsh said, and I was like, I'm going to buy that book. Now, I'm not very deep into it, but there's a part in the book that Bill Walsh... You know what? I'm going to be very forthright with everyone here. I actually read this part on Twitter, but I do own the book, and I have started about 10 pages in. But it's a famous part in the book where Bill Walsh essentially says, How an NFL franchise works is you have an owner, you have a GM, and then you have the coach. While the owner and the GM are sitting at dinner talking about how the guys that they drafted are good enough and this guy should do this, the coaches are spending every waking hour trying to make their team better. That's a dynamic that just is unfortunate for the coach that they to live with, the GM is always going to have a tighter relationship with the owner, whereas the coach is always going to be probably the first to go in these spots.

Which is why Belichick, guys like him, they wanted the setup where they're also the GM. So they don't have that behind-the-scenes dynamic. Bill O'Brien, great head coach, bad general manager. You've got guys that try to take on too much. It is like two very distinct roles, and there's not enough time of the day, I think, to be really good at both. But yeah, it's going to have... It's going to be the consigliere. In DC for a while, it was Vinnie Serrato's job was to let Dan Snyder beat him at racquetball. Right. So we see it all the time. And then he'd have a job for life.

Right. We see it all the time. The Keon Coleman thing was crazy. He's on your roster. You're hoping that That's not a sunk asset. Then you just... Kean Coleman is sitting on vacation somewhere. He is Tim Robinson in the courtroom being like me. Am I talking about me right now? It's my hat. It's my hat. Kean Coleman, stuff aside, I thought the craziest part was Terry Pagula. Again, this is something that you can so easily not say, yet he decided to say it. He essentially said the decision to fire Sean McDermott came in the locker room after a very emotional loss while also saying it was a catch and the rest fucked it up. And he told an anecdote about how he went up to Josh Allen. Josh Allen was crying and didn't even acknowledge that Terry Pagula was there. And then he saw that moment and said, You know We got to fire this coach. It's crazy he said that because, again, it's not that... If you want to fire the coach after a playoff loss, and that's the impetus to do so, that's fine. You have to say, We thought long and hard about this.

We all came together. We have a plan going forward. Instead, he's like, Yeah, it was a blown call. We shouldn't have lost the game, but we lost the game. So I was like, You know what? We got to fire the coach. It's the most knee-jerk reaction you could have. And again, you could have that, but don't admit that.

It also seems like he went up to Josh Allen. He's like, This is Josh Allen. He's my friend. Me and him have a great relationship. He likes me. We're buddies. And he didn't even recognize that I was there. I thought to myself, How bad is this? We got to do something to make my buddy be friendly to me again. We got to fire the head coach because we got to get back to good times. Now, I think that there is something because we actually said something similar. I remember saying it myself, maybe Last year, maybe even the year before, where all these sad losses for Sean McDermott add up, and it just changes the overall tone of the franchise. It's like a relationship that you've been in where you realize one day, I'm not happy. Then I think it'd be best if I just tried to be happy again. I think that's the vibe that he was getting at where he looked around the room, he realized everyone was sad. He's like, Well, we got to change something to make people not sad anymore.

Why are you crying? Where does it hurt? What What's the booboo? Can I get you a bandaid? Okay, I'll fire our coach.

Don't say that in a press conference.

Just say, We've hit a playoff wall. This is something we've talked about. We didn't sleep on Saturday night. We had a meeting Sunday morning. We talked extensively about this, and we've come to the conclusion that as great as Sean McDermon is, it's just time for a change. The way they did talk about it and the way they answered these questions, it gave the air of, We can't win in the playoff, so we're just going to throw some shit at the wall and hope it works.

Yeah, the whole notion of just saying exactly how knee-jerk it was. It's great. It could be fixed very easily by just using the word process. Yeah. And it It doesn't matter what your process is, but if you just say there was a process that we do after every season, and at the end of that process, we determined that it would be best if we moved on from Sean McGee. Your process could be like going out and ripping 20 shots of Crown Royal. You just need a process. And puking all over the bar and then be like, This sucks. I'm so pissed off at Sean. Then you come in the morning, we decide to move on after our process. You need a process. The process concluded, and we determined that we had to move in a different direction. Now, I do think that it does, ironically, it makes you think Sean McDermott probably did a much better job than we gave him credit for. But I still think it's one of the best openings in the NFL this year, if not the best, just because of Josh. Yeah.

Just because of Josh. I thought that, too, until Terry Pagula started talking. Now I'm like, Is this the best opening? Because I don't know if they have a plan.

I would actually say it's probably second, maybe even third. Ravens seems like a great opening, right now because the press conference for that owner was like, Oh, this guy's got his shit together.

And he also was like, Yeah, we were going to fire him all year.

And for the stealer- It wasn't one long.

He even said, they're like, If he had made that kick, would he simply coach it? He said, For a week? Yeah. He was planning on it. He actually had a plan.

Stealers would be great, too, because job security is a real thing. But yeah, I think that this definitely makes you think about all the stuff that happened behind the scenes.

Yeah, it was a wild one. I feel bad for Bills fans because you basically had... You just needed that press conference to go in a different way and have it be, Hey, we have a plan. We know that we have Josh Allen. We have a window here, and we can get the best coach. Instead, he was just like, Yeah, man, that loss was so bad. I just decided to fire our coach and just figure it out later.

Yeah.

Just fuck it up and figure it out later. Other coaching news, Mike McDaniel, Chargers, OC. Awesome. This is great. The combo of McDaniel and Harbaugh, there's no way they have anything. Well, they have football in common. That's actually why it will work.

They have football in common, but I imagine that Harbaugh talking to McDaniel, it seems like they're speaking two different languages, and I imagine that Harbaugh was just He's fascinated by this McDaniel guy, and he just wants to get him close and try to understand him.

I think in the meeting rooms, they speak the same language. If they ran into each other in the parking lot or they're in a situation where they're traveling together and they have to do small talk, they're just not. They can't have a conversation. But if they're in the small, I'm thinking the quarterback room or the planning room, they're fluent.

Do you think McDaniel wore one of his nice suits to that interview? Yeah.

Was Did you get a picture of him in the airport? Yeah.

But I don't know where he was going. He might have been going to Detroit in that one.

You got to assume if you're wearing that suit to the airport, you're wearing a suit everywhere.

Yeah, going to LA, going to the charges facility. Harbaugh is definitely in his khakis, and he sees McDaniel come in. He's like, What's that suit?

This is a big move for the chargers, though. This is a very exciting move for them. They're going to instantly be better offensively, I would imagine. It's also like McDaniel. It's very funny thinking deciding between these jobs. Detroit would have been cool because you have explosive offensive weapons. Cleveland, he was, I think, interviewing for head coach. Now, he gets to go live with Rassil in Manhattan Beach, nice weather, and have Justin Herbert as his quarterback.

That's pretty good. Justin Herbert.

Miami to LA is goals.

Yeah, that's the main attraction.

I think it's White Trump, California as well.

No one cares about football there.

The chargers. So, Max.

He's not the head coach.

I have a question for you, Max. Yep. Did you see Ross Tucker's comments? Our good friend Ross Tucker.

I've seen Rossini's comments.

You should review the Ross Tucker comments.

Ross Tucker, who is from Pennsylvania, who does Eagles radio, I think in the preseason, covers games, friend of ours, very good, talented guy, knows a lot about football. He essentially was like, If you're Mike McDaniel and you're deciding between going to the Chargers where people are... It's not the number one team in in the city. There's Chargers fans, but it's not like the Lakers. You know what I mean? The Dodgers. Would you rather go there and live a good life and know that you can have a really good quarterback and succeed, or go to Philadelphia and get your house egged?

Yeah. There's a big league, there's a minor league.

And a quarterback who's a receiver are running out of town.

Wait, Hank, what were you saying?

And a quarterback who has his receiver is running out of town. Okay.

But do you think that the Philly fans are causing you to lose out?

Super Bowl winning quarterback, by the way. Okay. Drake May, not a Super Bowl winning quarterback.

Yeah.

Okay. Do you think the fans might have anything to do with guys not wanting to go there?

Fine.

I like that. This is a good answer.

This is a really good answer. There's guys that can coach in Philly, and there's guys that can't. If you're not a guy that can't coach in Philly, don't come here.

Yeah, I like that answer.

Wouldn't you want a really good coach?

No, he wants a guy to coach in Philly.

You would rather have a bad coach who can coach in than a good coach.

Soft. I don't want a soft coach that is scared of coaching in Philadelphia.

You know who's not scared of coaching in Philadelphia? You know what- Who didn't complain when he got his house egg? Kevin Patulo. That guy can coach in Philly.

He's still coaching in Philly.

I know.

Where are you going to say, Max? A second ago, you were all worked up.

I was like, Yeah, Mike McDaniel was really good in Miami, right?

What?

He got him to the playoff. He also was 70 frats.

We're just really excited about getting to the playoff now.

He's a great defense. Pretty clearly limited by- Kevin Patulo got the Eagles to the playoff this That's also a good point. That's true. Really good point. Who do you think is a better quarterback? Jalen Hertz or Tua?

I would say Jalen Hertz, but that wasn't the case coming out of college.

So who do you want now? Was it?

Yeah, in college. Yeah. Yeah.

Who do you want now?

I've given up all opinions. Did I want Mike McDaniel? Yes. But then I found out that he was soft. Don't want him anymore. Did I want Brian Dable? Yes. Did he also say that he doesn't want to go to Philly anymore? Also true. Now I have no more opinions. I will trust Jeffrey Lauri and Howie Roseman to bring in the-What about nick Seriani? Nick Seriani to bring in the right guys and put my trust in them to put together a way to write this shit. They know better than me. I'm dumb. They're smart. They will get us back on track.

Instead of saying, Hey, maybe we'll stop egging our offensive coordinator's houses. It's like, We need a coordinator.

I disavowed the egging when it happened.

That can I can tolerate the house egg.

I think you said, I disavowed the egging. It should have been bricks.

That is not what I said. I said, We have to keep booze to the field.

Booze to the field.

All booze can only be allowed on premises of the field.

What about practice?

That's on the field.

If you're walking by the Novocare complex, you can- Yeah, that's okay. What about it?

You suck?

Depends. It depends on the situation.

Would you like a Declan Doyle? Because he's interviewing.

I saw that. I know nothing about him, and I feel like I'm nervous on guys who aren't experienced play callers.

Yeah, he's Ben Johnson's But Ben Johnson just calls the place. Yeah, Project. Yeah. I mean, Ben Johnson did speak very highly of him. He said that he's been a huge asset. But he's not an experienced...

I feel like that's a guy for a young quarterback building team. This We need to win now. It is a win now.

Do you want Kingsbury?

I would take Kingsbury.

You think he's a Philly guy?

Depends.

When it comes down to that breakdown there, Max, would you want a coach, an offensive coordinator that would get some abuse from the fans but then get so mad about it that they try to fight the fans back?

If it pushes... I want a coordinator that's going to get mad about the fans and push them to want to be You want a guy that people get mad at him and he gets madder instead of sad. But he gets motivated. Yeah. He's like, Let me push this team. Be like, I'll show them. I'll show this team. I'll shut them up. Yeah. Touchdown.

You want That's the guy that you can coach hard? Yeah.

Here's why Declan Doyla might be a good hire. He's 30 years old. I don't believe he's married. He probably is more likely to rent an apartment to get a house, harder to egg an apartment.

Disavow the egg situation. Stop coming back to the egg.

I'm just saying that solves itself, doesn't it?

Stop coming back to the egg.

Where do birds come from? Eggs.

Eggs. What came first, though? Bacon.

No idea. No idea. The bacon.

We're going to find the right guy. We're going to find the right guy.

Who's on your list? Who you got?

See, this is what I'm saying. I am removing myself from the list.

Okay, so we need that reported that Max Celente is officially removing himself from talking about the risk.

I've already reported it.

Okay, good.

I had a statement. I've made I will make the decision to have no opinion on the Eagles's next offensive coordinator. I have no idea who's a good coach, and I will blindly trust whoever they write to ship. This decision has nothing to do with the top two candidates choosing elsewhere. Nothing to do.

What else do we have? National Sports Podcast. Before we get into the games. We're going to dive into the games. Anything?

How's everyone feeling? Those are the two big things. We can dive into the games in a little bit, but Hank, I had a question for you. I don't know if you've been watching. Why are you laughing already? Sorry. This is not a setup.

We're not having a dialog. You're funny. That's a funny guy, man. I appreciate that. I don't care what anyone says about you.

That's a nice addition. I saw Dan Orlowski this morning apologizing to C. J. Stroud. Did you guys see that? Why?

Because he didn't know he was that ass?

He put his hand up and he said, I'd like to apologize. I made the comment that 31 other quarterbacks win that game besides C. J. Stroud. I promised myself when I got in this business, I would not single out the quarterbacks for wins and losses. He's getting bodied. I got to do better.

Who is Orlowski? Oh, is he?

He's getting crushed.

He's getting bodied.

Who else is he getting crushed by?

Well, now, because he apologized to C. J. Stroud, now Patriots fans are mad at him.

They want an apology? Yeah. That's why you can't apologize, Dan.

Because Dan didn't give the Patriots defense enough credit for making C. J. Stroud look bad.

Oh, yeah. He was on McAfee show, and he was- Once you open up the apologies, you basically are getting...

You'll get apology shamed left and right.

You should say, I will not apologize for being savage.

He should have said, I'm sorry for saying 31 quarterbacks. It's actually 36.

Yeah, right. There's a ship. Davis Mills 100% could win that game. Teddy Bridgeronna could win that game. Yeah. Jared Syedam. We'll find out.

Based off of what Broncos fans are saying, yeah, he could have won every game.

I think it's interesting that Hank's mind first goes to the numbers 3 and 6. It's weird. In your head. Yeah.

He lives rent-free in your head.

Rent-free.

Oh. 3 and 6.

We also, we should say the follow-up. John Lynch said they're looking into the substation.

Good. Yeah.

Brandon Ayuk has played his last snap for the 49ers, which no, duh.

Yeah, I thought- Should we call him? We figured that out.

Who? Brandon Ayuk.

We have his number? What?

That was the part of the story when he was like, When was the last time he talked to me? He was like, Well, I tried to call him, he didn't answer. Then I tried to call him again, he didn't answer. Then five people from the facility tried to call me. He didn't answer. I've never experienced that in my career. They were like, When did you know he was done?

John, sorry to break the news, Brandon Ayuk changed his phone number. It's pretty clear.

Maybe it was the substation interfering with the cell phone. Yeah. Also, maybe Brandon Ayuk is just a genius, and he was like, I'm not practicing here that thing. Maybe he knew before we knew. I'd like to be vulnerable with you guys. Is that okay?

Oh, yeah, please.

Dude should be vulnerable with each other more.

You want Brandon Ayuk?

No. It's actually the opposite. I fear that he will be a commander next year. Because it seems like a lot of our big moves, and I'm not just talking about Diba, but it just It seems like Adam Peters came from the Niners. He's got close relationships there. It seems like his first move is always to get sloppy seconds from the 49ers. Now, if that does happen, I'm going to go back and I'm going to watch the FaceTimes between Jaden and Brandon Ayuk and go back and watch their film together in college, and I'm going to convince myself it's great. And Brett and I, Uke was not the problem. It was the substation. I will dilute myself into thinking like, This is the guy to take the offense over the top. But as of now, I'm being vulnerable. It is my fear that that's what we'll do.

Yeah, that does feel like something you're for sure going to do. Yeah. For sure. By the way, the last thing I had before we get to the games, John Snowman 8, who is an AWL, compiled the list of the top 100 greatest hires in human history.

I saw that. It's a great list.

It's a great list. I'll just read off a few from He had a whole methodology. He did everything, a lot of work into it. He has Kurt Signetti as number one. Then, let's see, number 4, Winston Churchill, number 5, Franklin D. Roosevelt. Number 6, Genghis Khan.

Was he hired? I think he just took the job. Yeah, he volunteered. We talked about this on the show, and I think we put Oppenheimer up there, right? Yeah. He did not have Oppenheimer, but he did have the guy, Leslie Groves, that started the Manhattan Project. He was number seven on the list.

Okay, Steve Jobs is on the list.

That actually- Which one?

The second time, I think. That's actually a good call. Nick Saban, Bill Belichick. There's some good names on this. Bill Walsh. He did a really good job. So go check it out. We'll retweet it, but it's- Number 43 and 50 on the list, Pat Reilly, Eric Spolstra, back to back for the heat.

Are you guys on the list?

No. No. That's rude. No, Mincey either.

No, Mincey. Let's see.

His methodology was... It's actually interesting. He graded it on a five-point scale where he took into account the starting point of each person, the ceiling that they had at the time, the constraints that were put in place, the speed in which they achieved success, and then something called X anti-odds, like how unlikely success was at the time when they hired him. And yeah, Kurt Signetti, as we theorized, The best hire for any job of all time.

Theo Epstein probably should be hired because he has Theo Epstein for the Red Sox, but he gets the double dip for the Cubs.

Yeah, that's true.

There should be two Theo Epsteins.

But he gets ding for Hillary.

Oh, yeah, that's true.

Yeah, that is true. That big-time ding.

Yeah, big time to Billy Beane, 83. Some of these guys, I just have no idea who they are. None of them. Wow, the President for the Raptors got 81. I feel like Sam Presty at 82 is a little low. Either way, that's the list. It's a good list. Good job, Jon Snowman.

This guy, Free Matt, makes a good point. Brian Johnson being hired by ACDC after Bon Scott's death has to be somewhere on the list. That one is a tricky one because he was the only person on planet Earth that could have replaced Bon Scott, and they found the one guy that existed to fit the role of who was a great hire, Bon Scott. I would have to say Bon Scott, ahead of Brian Johnson, but both great hires.

I wouldn't hate seeing a list of maybe it's top 20 of guys that interviewed that you dodged a bullet. It's like the reverse grade higher?

Yeah.

Like, Steely Dan not having Chevy Chase as their drummer. He would have ruined the band.

Was that a thing?

Yeah, he was their drummer in college. Are you serious?

I didn't even chase.

She had no choice.

Yeah. Isn't that crazy? That is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. No idea. Yeah.

But that would have ruined the band.

Yeah. Because he's a dick. Metallica kicking Dave Mustane out.

Yeah. There's a lot of probably really good ones. You're like, Whoa, we dodged a bullet there. Yeah. Thank God we didn't hire that guy. Okay. By the way, Hank, did we not talk about the fact that Jordan was at the National Championship Game?

We did not.

Do you want to? Sure. Who is she sitting What's she doing?

She's sitting with Alex Earle.

Alex Earle has been recently been in the news for?

She's trying to deal with Netflix. Shout out to Alex Earle, now co-workers.

Before that?

She's all over the place. She's the number one it girl.

Okay. Before that?

Before that, she was just a student at Miami making TikToks.

I'd say Jordán, number one it girl.

No, she was... I mean, again, she's the hottest thing going right now, and she was cuddling up with Tom braided over New Year's Washington Calvin Harris.

And then was with Bill Belichick's wife?

No. Oh. Future wife.

Future wife.

I mean, they have to be going on double dates, right?

I hope so. I would love that.

The band's back together?

Yeah, just going over, reminiscing me like, Oh, man, remember the first Super Bowl? Oh, man, remember the second one?

I remember the third one.

What if Tom braided, what happens when they get to seven?

I was in elementary school. I'm like, Yeah, but then 10 years later, we won three more.

What if Jordan was like, I want to settle this Belichick versus braided debate once for all? By discussing who got more It's in your credit, obviously. Don't get your mind out of the gutter. That's what I was talking about.

Yeah, for sure. By the way, the answer to that, Bill. For sure. Just methodical. He's read books.

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Do you feel anxious? Are you worried that PFT is about to body you with something?

I don't give a fuck about PFT.

So much so that you answered that question first. I asked him four questions. He answered that question first.

The second I opened my mouth this episode to talk about something completely unrelated, Hank started preparing himself. Yeah.

I asked you four questions, and you only answered the- I answered the last one. No, you only answered the PFT one.

I answered the last one, and then you interrupted me.

You're clearly worried about PFT. Got it. That's the first one you answered.

Hank, let's be clear here. I'm not anti-patriot.

What could PFT do to me?

Would I have- I don't know.

Would I have prepared for today's show- No, the answer is nothing.

When I say it- You're a sad little man.

You're going to say this is the dumbest thing that I've ever heard. You're going to be so confident in yourself going to the weekend because I've scraped the bottom of the internet, and this is all I'm going to be able to come up with, and you're going to be like, That's your whole season.

I need you to be a little bit more confident. Be confident, PFT. We can't go into this argument of you saying that.

There is no argument. There's no argument. Time out, time out, time out.

I'm calling you.

I'm calling you a time out.

I'm calling you a time out.

This is an AFC Championship break down. Shut up. I'm calling you a time out. Respect the time out. This is not yours. Respect the time out.

We got to shut the fuck up and let me rope a dope hang.

There's time out on the floor.

Jesus Christ.

Time out. Look at me, PFT. I know, I know, I know. But It's a time out. You're the guy who gave us 300 yards. You never done 300 yards. You're the guy who gave us third and six. Yeah. Okay? No. You're that guy. You are the guy. You are him.

I know all this. I'm very confident. I'm broken down.

Shut the fuck up. That was our Time out, dude. You were supposed to be listening.

All right, Hank. Floor is yours.

I'm nervous. Like I said, Tom braided, Bill Belichick never won a game in Denver.

How many do they play?

Four, I believe.

Okay. Never won in Denver at all?

Never a playoff game. Three in the playoff, maybe four total. I know it's just like... I think it's... I think it's... I think it's O and four in Denver, O and three career, something like that. Or O and three in the playoff. I'm nervous, and I'm nervous about how confident I am. I have let myself... I've been going down that road of getting too far ahead of myself in terms of Super Bowl week. Yeah, you already booked your flight for Monday. No, see, that's your flight for Monday. No. See, that's your flight for Monday. No. See, that's your flight for Monday. No. See, that's your Disney World. Liars, gaslighters. You and Mickey. Bad people trying to start a jinks and then putting it on me. You did the character breakfast? I didn't say a word. Max and Big Cat just booked my flight for Monday. I did not say a word. It's Jared Steenham, dude. Then you go, You booked your flight for Monday. Incorrect.

Did they tell you to go to Disney World or was that you?

I did pre-book. I'm going to Orlando. I'm going to Kissame. Have I got ahead of myself and be like, If they win, I'll go make a funny video in Orlando. Yes. So that's where it's like, I do that. I start...

Oh, you're already on to winning the Super Bowl?

I'm dangerous, man. That's where it's like- There's going to be tons of great content. I catch myself. Literally, it would probably be less content. But I catch myself and then I go, Stop, you got a game Sunday. We can't get ahead of ourselves. We have to win in Denver. I feel good about... I feel like we have an advantage offensively, defensively, coaching. Only thing is the air.

So air is your only You're disadvantaged. What are you going to say, Max?

You think the Patriots have a better defense than the Broncos?

I think Jared Syndam gets sacked a lot. I think- Got it.

In this game. Okay, yes.

He has never played against- Our defense versus their offense.

Yeah, got it.

He has never played with an offensive line like he has now. That's a fact.

What's the sample size?

Well, no, you just said he gets sacked a lot. What's your sample size?

He gets sacked a lot.

He's got- Right. And he got sacked a lot playing behind a bad offensive line.

Okay. That part was not in the stat.

Okay.

He hasn't played behind this offensive line. I actually think the Patriest defense is extremely underrated. Yeah. Like, extremely.

Yeah. That's right, Orlowski. You're scared. Orlowski got you scared.

About what?

You got to respect the Patri's defense.

No, I was actually trying to give you... I thought your point about Jared Stitt getting sacked a lot made no sense. It's a fact. It's also a fact he's playing behind now the best offensive line. So you have to at least put in that fact.

I guess. I disagree with that.

What do you mean?

You're telling me I have to put that fact, and I don't think so.

Okay, I think you should have to put that fact.

Let Hank determine where his stats fall.

Bo Nicks took 22 sacks in 17 starts of the season. Jared Stitt took 13 sacks in four starts.

And who was his offensive line when he took those sacks? I don't fucking know. The 2023 Broncos, terrible team. The 2022 Raiders, I believe, terrible team. Hey, man. Bo Nicks played behind a The Bronco's offensive line this week.

Stats are stats, man. Right, BFT? Okay.

I saw the same tweet. You're just reading a tweet.

Is that true? You're just reading a tweet, Hank? Yeah. Yeah, you guys would never. No. No. That's not how I do my stats.

We do the work.

We have on Twitter. Supercomputer.

You said that the Patriots have a coaching advantage. I agree that Mike Vrabel is an awesome coach. I wish that you didn't have him. Sean Payton won a Super Bowl. Sean Payton has a great offensive mind. Mike Vrabel won three. As a coach?

No. But he knows what it takes.

We're talking about Mike Vrabel was playing in this game, he'd have the advantage. We're talking about Coach. Over Sean Payton playing.

Okay. Mcdaniels?

We're talking about Coach. Not Coordinator. I didn't say Coordinator. I said Coach.

Coordinator is a...

You saidCoach, we have the advantage. I said Coach. We have the advantage.

I said Coaching Advantage. That's every coach. I don't count just the head coach. I care about the whole team, the whole staff.

Who's the Bronco's coordinator?

Is it Kubiak?

I don't think that it is. You know who the defensive coordinator is? No. Okay. So when you say you have the-Who's your defensive coordinator? I don't know who is this. You're not a stink? Just trying to get to the bottom of these facts here, Hey.

We can't do this, Hey.

You know the Bronco's defense coordinator, at least. Vance Joseph. Sure. He's having a time of his life.

I think their offensive coordinator is Joe Lombardi, I believe.

So coaching advantage in what context?

Just the coaching staff. Yeah.

All those guys. You know more of the coaching staff for the Patriots than you do for the Broncos. So they have the advantage, your personal advantage. Okay. So you feel confident?

Feel very confident. Davis Webb.

People forget about Davis Webb.

I think we got to cut Hank saying he doesn't know his defensive coordinator.

No. All right.

Our defensive corner, he...

I think he has cancer, so they brought in an interim. It's that guy.

Got it. Okay.

I actually don't know his name.

He's got a nickname.

It's like Stink or something? I mean, Rable is doing a lot of that.

Yeah, and he's a great coach. I just think that Sean Payton, he deserves some respect in what he's been able to do. This weekend, it feels like this might be fun for Sean. It's like a challenge. What am I going to do with Stitty?

I do think you're going to get the full kitchen sink from the Broncos because it's like, Hey, you had a week to prepare. You're going to have to throw some crazy shit at the wall. Hank, are you- Zack Kerr.

Yeah. Thank God his name isn't nick.

Or Cribs. Are you talking about Steve's son, Nicholas?

Yes, it's K-U-H-R, but still.

You're talking about Steve's son, Nicholas Kerr. Yeah. Hank, is there a part of you that's a little worried? This could all be just meatball shit, where it's vibes and no stats. You actually, I think, said something like this where the Patriots have been in the role all year of everyone being like, We don't know if they're good. We don't know if they're good. The media, the schedule talk, all that. We don't know if they're good. They have been in the role of like, no one's actually expecting them to go to the Super Bowl. Now, the Broncos, the one seed, everything's flipped, all the pressure's on the Patriots. How can you lose to Jared What's Stittam?

A little bit, but what's been the number one knock against the Patriots this year?

They play only backup quarterbacks.

Have you seen the list of the quarterbacks that the Broncos beat?

I have not.

Gino Smith twice, Trey Lance on the chargers.

That was week 18, yeah.

When they didn't start yet.

Justin Fields.

When the Patriots played Gino Smith, you guys crushed him, right?

Davis Mills, Marcus Mariota, Kam Ward, Daniel Jones, and what was the guy's name on Christmas? Tonga?

Wait, is this the full list? Because I feel like you're forgetting Jelen Hertz, Jordan Lowe.

I'm just showing a list of some of the quarterbacks that they beat.

This is a random sampling of them.

And what was the other- Did they just beat Josh Allen?

Did they not play against Justin Herbert?

Do you guys know-They lost that game.

Yeah.

Oh, the teams that they beat? Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. And do you guys know- But you are leaving out, they beat the Broncos, they beat the Eagles. But the Patriots beat the Bills. They beat the Ravens. It's the same thing. I'm just talking about the Patriots and who they beat, the bad... They beat a bunch of bad teams. So did the fucking Broncos. Who was the number two team in strength of schedule this year? Patriots number one. Who was number two?

Who? I'm going to guess That's the Broncos.

The Broncos. My point is that all the things that the people say about the Patriots- Did the Broncos also beat Patrick Mahomes?

Yeah.

Did the Patriots beat- And also Lamar Jackson.

Patrick Mahomes didn't even make the fucking play-off.

That's not a play-off team.

You You were saying quarterbacks, and then you were like, Well, we beat the Ravens, and Lamar got hurt in that game.

Did he get hurt? But again, it's like you could say the same. Did the Broncos beat Patrick Mahomes? I mean, the Chiefs didn't make the fucking play-offs.

I don't know who you're arguing.

What you're doing right now, you're saying that The Broncos actually suck.

I'm saying that people have spent this whole season and playoff season being like, Patriots are a joke.

Their schedule is a joke. They beat no one. The Broncos are not that far off from being the same thing, so I'm not that worried.

The question that led to this was that, yeah, I- You guys are just like, everything I say, you refuse to just...

It has to be defense, defense, defense.

The question was, is this your handwriting? Defense, what?

What? What about defense?

You guys, it's like, I can't just make a point. It has to just be like, Well, actually...

No, I was asking you if the question was about the vibes of, You guys should win this game. You're better than Jared Stidham led Broncos. And then you just replied with it, The Broncos stink. So you basically confirmed what I was saying, but in a very competitive mode.

I guess.

I was making the point that the Broncos, the Patriots should win this game.

Yes.

And then you're like, Yeah, but you're wrong. The Broncos stink.

They should have, but I would have said they would... Whatever. I would have been confident if Bodex was playing, I'm more confident now. We should win this game.

But also your analysis of the Broncos not being that good could All that logic could be directly applied to the Patriots except harder.

No, I think it's just funny how much people talk about it, but no one talks about the Broncos.

Because you left out five quarterbacks.

You also chose quarterbacks for your defense, and then when it came to the Patriots, you went for team and not quarterback because it was Taylor Hunt for the Ravens. But you chose Tyler Hunt. You chose Ravens, not Hunt.

That's very true.

I can't fucking wait to win this game and just be away from you guys.

I'm just pointing out your argument right now.

You guys are so annoying.

This is where Hank truly shines, though, is when he gets to get away from all this hating losers and when it's a week of Hank just being like, Thank God, I'm around winners again. These guys don't understand what it's like.

No.

You should win this game.

That was my point. Max is like, I was a fucking Eagles fan last postseason. I've said the whole time he's the worst winner. He's such a bad winner.

I am. Guess what? It's a scorpion in the frog. You had the scorpion on your back and he stung you, and you're like, What'd you do? And he's like, Yeah, I'm a fucking scorpion.

Yeah, you should have known this all along. Okay, now that we're through that, what? What are you doing in the face?

I'm not saying...

I I was going to give you a stat. If we're going off of DVOA, Aaron Shatz, the Patriots defense has actually been better than the Broncos defense in the last nine weeks. That's a significant time. They stopped the run. Christian Gonzales is a lockdown corner similar to Patrick Chetan. They have, I think, comparable defenses. Then if you say, Hey, who's got the advantage? The one advantage I would say that the Broncos have that's clear over the Patriots is the Broncos have a better offensive line, but they have Jared Seed in behind their offensive line, and the Patriots have Drake May. Is that advantage negated? Probably a little bit, right?

Mm-hmm.

So PFT, you're ready to go. He's on the edge right now.

Yeah. I want to bring this back.

I want this show to end. He's very close to just throwing shit at us.

I want to bring this back.

I'm not listening to anything that you guys are saying.

If you replayed the conversation we had, I was trying to say that the Broncos, the Patriots, should win this game, and then you just got super defensive.

If this was, what is it, peanuts, the Charlie Brown? You guys, this is just you guys are the teacher.

Oh, like the gibberish?

When you guys are talking, that's all like, You can cut to me, and all I'm hearing is, I just want to bring it back because I actually don't have any anti-Drick Maysats.

There we go.

I don't. I know that you used to be a giant Jared Stidham fan. You were a Jared Stidham commenter on Instagram, and I found that out last night. I was doing some research on City. I said that.

I had been a Jared Stidham fan.

You called him Studham. Yeah, you called him Studum on one post where you said, 2020 Vision. You replied, as Confucius said, LFG. It was a great reply. What I saw from his Instagram, and I did go down, I cycled pretty far back through his posts. Fisoli likes every single one of Jared Sydm's posts, by the way, back in the day, every one of them smashing. Then I saw that you were a commenter for a while, which I understand he was a Patriot, but you know that Stitt has got some shit to him.

He studied them.

You don't listen to me. I've been saying that since Sunday. Yeah, you have.

I hear, Womp, womp, womp, womp, womp.

No, he has Crescent Hink, he has been saying that he was a Jared Stunt'em guy.

Yeah, you have. When we talked about Drake May for the last couple of weeks, we did talk about the third and six. You pooh-poohed the Josh Dobbs, that he's 50% on third and six. Can Can I interest you in Tommy DeVito, your other backup quarterback?

Is he?

Yes.

Third string?

Yes. I'm very sure that he is. It's Josh Dubs and DeVito. Tommy DeVito, third string quarterback. He is actually the best quarterback in the history of the NFL on third and six. Five for five, 100% completion rate. Wow. That's a stark difference. I thought that was interesting.

It was-Yeah. Then your whole stat go off of a minimum of 10 throws?

Yeah, but not for him. But not for him. I'm just saying small- Good memory, Hank, because I didn't remember that. Okay, so let's extrapolate that to 10 throws.

Because there's probably someone that's one for one. There's probably a lot.

Yeah, but even if- So Tommy DeVille is not the best.

He's probably tied for the best.

But even if he threw the ball out of the stadium on his next five attempts on third and six, he would still be twice as good as Drake May.

Right, but he hasn't played enough.

Yeah, I'm just throwing that.

You can't have a baseline for your stat then throw in someone else.

That was just a little extra. That was a side dish that I threw in. I thought it was a fun fact that he was five for five on it.

It was a fun fact.

When you compare Stidham to Drake May, career, when trailing from one to eight points. He took off his headphones.

I can still hear. I just don't want to... I don't need to hear as loud.

Jared Stidham has a better completion percentage when playing from behind than Drake may does. He has better yards per attempt when playing from behind as well.

Was he playing from behind for the majority of the four games he played?

I don't have the breakdown of percentage, but it's pretty impressive that he's good when he's trailing, and we don't really know that much about Drake May playing from behind just yet at this point. I think he's got one comeback drive for a win in his career, which is great. He's got a young career, a lot left in front of him. Jared Stittam was the number one ranked dual threat quarterback out of high school in his class. So he was ranked ahead of Kyler Murray, ahead of Juan Jennings, who was also in that same class. Also then ahead of what?

Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson?

Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson. Yeah, I did try to go back and see the big games that they played in because, again, small sample size for two young-ish quarterbacks. Drake May, what do you think? What's the biggest game that Drake May has played in?

For the AFC division round.

So this year, yeah, I think we could both agree. He didn't play great in the two big games this year, right?

Number one defense. He played, he won the game.

He had some great throws, like the throw to Boody, the throw to Diggs. Big time throws.

But he also fumbled a lot. I would say winning a playoff game against a number one defense having three touch downs. I would consider that great. I don't know about you. He fumbled a lot. Again, I would say that throwing three touch downs against the number one defense in a playoff game is good. Fact or fiction?

Yes, you would say that. Fact.

But you would not.

I think there's a lot that you got to take into account. He fumbled a lot in the playoff.

It's like a toilet flush.

Do you think Drake may look back at those two games and thought, damn, I played really good?

Yes, Their wins.

I think a guy that's as good as Drake may would look back and be like, I can't prove.

At least one of those fumbles, there was nothing he could have done. The offensive line, they left him out to dry. Okay. That happens. That's football.

Some guys get sacked a lot. Yeah.

Okay.

I would say that- Some guys miss the coverage and they just have a blindsided, unblocked shot at the quarterback. That's going to happen.

Let's just talk Championship game experience then, because this is a championship game.

Let's talk Championship. Okay. He played... Jared said him played the sixth grade fucking No.

Dr. May played in the ACC Championship game at UNC against Clemson. 26 for 42, 268 yards, no touch downs, two interceptions. They lost 39 to 10. Stittam's biggest game. He said, Fuck it, coach. Put me at receiver if you want, scored a 65-yard countdown catch in the Texas high school state championship. Wow. What division?

Sean Payton is looking at that.

What division? Good. The best. Good to very good. You know what, Hank? The top division. Look that up and tell me what you find out. But he does have some championship pedigree in his system. As I said, he's the number one dual threat quarterback coming out of high school, then going into the NFL draft. Daniel Jeremiah absolutely loved him coming into the lead.

Oh, that's our guy.

Yeah. Dj, he watches all the tape. He said, Really as much upside as any quarterback in this draft class, he said he's a top five pick in shorts for Jared Stedham.

We do love guys in shorts.

Top five pick in shorts.

What are you finding out? What are you looking up? Hank, talk us through this. What are you looking up?

I'm looking up Stephen Bell High School.

Okay. Okay. Let me know what you find out about that.

What class it played in. By the way, do you know the last postseason game that Jared Stitt and played in was the Music City Bowl in 2018 against Purdue, playing against what QB? Max? Max?

Kevin Cobb went to this high school. That's all I got. I wasn't listening.

2018, last postseason game Jared Siddon played. It was the 2018 Music Bowl. He played against this quarterback at Purdue. Quarterback at Purdue? The answer is the one that got away from Max, David Blau.

Oh, wow.

Yes.

How could you forget Max?

How could you forget? I was trying to think of Eagle's quarterback from Purdue. I was struggling.

Blau, Blau, Blau, or Reels?

More fun facts about Stidham. The last name Stidham means horse. From a horse, the Broncos are a horse. I thought that was just interesting. He is a preseason stud, an absolute beast. He is the best quarterback in the NFL in the preseason the last two years. Highest pro football focus grade, 90 among quarterbacks of 20 more snaps in the preseason. He's got a 5-1 big-time throw to turnover-worthy play ratio. That sounds big time. According to Zack Allen, his teammate, he's the first guy in the building every day. Wow. Which it says a lot, like your backup quarterback being the first guy in the building every single day.

What did you find?

There's six divisions in Texas.

And?

Four. He's in 4A.

Okay.

So not even anywhere close, not even the top half, 50% of high schools. But yeah, good stat.

Well, he was also... He became the starting quarterback. That's when he was a freshman, he did that.

They were still 4.

Also, if there's six divisions and he's in the fourth, that is the top half.

Yeah, A would be the worst.

It goes the other way. Well, whatever. Not the top.

Okay.

Yeah, 6A is the largest.

Fourth out of six. But actually the opposite. Third out of six.

But not one, like you said. Your stat was wrong.

You lied.

Well, not six. No, I clearly made up the fact that he was the best. He said good.

I didn't get you. You did not lie.

The best. Now, he said good and then the best.

Whatever the best is. That's subjective. I enjoy 4A football more than I enjoy I would say, football. It's got two corporate in IL. You got guys bouncing around every year. Yeah. He, at one point, had a broken finger. Coach wanted to keep him out for the rest of the season. In the postseason, he said, Coach, let me play. I really want to get out there. I don't care that my hand's broken. I've got three pins in my finger. Get me on this practice field. Coach said, No. The backup threw a pick on the first series. The opponent scored. Stedham looked at his coach and said, He put me in. He said, Fine, I'll put you in. He threw six touch downs, and Steavenville won. Wow. He's a beast. Wow. Stidham is a beast. He's got a diehard belief in himself, which we can all appreciate. You need a guy with confidence to step into this position. Especially this time of year in the playoffs. This has never happened before. We've never gotten a backup quarterback that's come in for the AFC Championship game. Staback did it, what, '72?

Yeah, and then there was- But Staback was also the starter of the previous year.

Yeah.

I'm trying to think if there's any other… When did Jeff Hostetler come in? When did he come in for the Giants? I think Sean Payton was on that staff, by the way.

Yeah, so he knows how to manage this situation.

I think he came in at the end of the He's in.

Jeff Hostetler. Jared Stitt has one 300-yard passing game in his career. I thought that's pretty good, right, Hank? Yeah. Agreed. Now, this is where it went off the rails. Okay.

We were still on the rails.

That He was the on the reels. All right, nice.

I was like, okay.

All right. A little behind the scenes. Last night, I sat down. I was going to do an hour of research on Jared Stitt because we don't know anything about the guy. I set an alarm clock for myself. Of biological alarm clock. I consumed an edible.

You're going to want to listen to this, Hank.

I consumed an edible, and I said to myself, You're going to be done researching Jared Stittam once the edible kicks in, and then that'll be your time to just go chill out, get a good night's sleep, wake up early for wake up Barstool tomorrow morning. It didn't work out that way. When the edible kicked in, it sent me down a rabbit hole that I think we're all going to be dumber for having listened to, but maybe there's a kernel truth in. When we talked about this before the show, Big Cat was like, How dumb is it? He might be ambidextrous. I said, It's 10 times dumber than that. Max, can you pull up your DMs real quick? I sent you a bunch these screenshots. Jarrett Stittam might have a tail.

Oh, an actual tail?

An actual tail.

Okay.

There were rumors that they started circulating on various message boards around the same time, but it was different fan bases. It was in different college football boards and on Twitter. Everybody was thinking that Jarrett Stittam might have a tail. So this guy said, I had a friend who went to Baylor who sweared Stedham had a tail. This is the first I've heard of this in over a year. Pull up the next one, Max. For those that don't know, the real reason Stidham left Baylor was because he has a tail and it He's constantly getting harassed about it. This has been a well-known secret for over a year. He finally admitted it today. I couldn't find any evidence of him admitting that he had a tail. But there's more screenshots that I have there. Okay. He was telling my brother about this. He's an obby. He does radiographic imaging. He said, A tail is very possible. I won't get into the details. Just that he said, It's an anomaly that does indeed happen. We got another one. I keep hearing it's why he left Baylor. He was apparently getting harassed about it nonstop. Not like a full-on tail, but like a nub.

Anyone else hearing this? I've seen it being talked about a lot the last day or so. This is great. Do we have another? Jarrett Stidham literally has a tail. That's what somebody posted. Another week gone by with an Auburn beat too scared ask Gus if Stidham has a tail or not. Hey, are you seeing this shit? Stidham to be the first Auburn starting quarterback to have vestigial tail. #wareagle. Wow. I tried to see the admission that That Sidney said that he had a tail, but I couldn't find anything related to that. Instead, I looked up if humans can have tails. Okay. Have we seen Shal Hall? Yeah. Jason Alexander in that movie? He's got the little nub. It does happen from time to time. I think there's 135 cases of humans being born with a tail. Holy shit. His name is Stidham, meaning from a horse. Horses have tails. Apparently, we're all born with tails. What? Or maybe not born. Wrong choice of words. We all have tails at some point. From weeks 4 to 6 of a pregnancy, every human embryo has a tail-like structure, and that tail-like structure has 10 to 12 tail vertebrae.

So we all had tails. We just lose them? At some point, every Everybody loses them, except for very small minority people that are born with a tail. Who would benefit most from that would be an athlete.

If you have a tail, it helps you balance.

It acts like a stabilizer when you're twisted thing when you're throwing. It's a biological gyroscope. Saians have tails, and it helps them with magic. Like Dragon Ball Z? Yeah. You're like, Go for it. The tail gives them extra abilities, enhance balance. Teen Wolf had a tail. I think Jared Cinnam might have a tail, and that's something that you can't game plan for. That's all I'm saying.

Thoughts?

I know that... I don't know. Probably 80% of the fan base of this podcast is against me and they're rooting for me to lose.

I thought you were going to say 80% of the listeners turned this off.

Just know that to those 80% of people, that is who you're riding with.

What you just listened to-A guy with a tail?

Is that. That is like you're in that... You have It's two options, and it's me in one corner and whatever PFT just said in the other corner, and you're walking towards that corner going into a fight. I hope that makes me feel better. We should all put on tails. That makes me feel better.

That's completely fair. In one corner, all he does is win Super Bowl, and in the other, you got a guy that's staying up two extra hours at his computer, high off an edible, researching human tails. I can't argue with that, Hank. You're 100% right, but you might be underestimating Stidham.

You might be underestimating the tail.

Listen, I'm not- The tale of the tale.

That would be a problem. That would be a problem.

The longest of the most pro-ball players in the whole week.

Oh, okay.

Number one seat. And people are still going to somehow talk about the schedule. It's a team game.

No one brought up the schedule, dude. We're talking about a tail.

I'm not worth talking about. I didn't listen to what she just said.

You keep going back to schedule.

You're the only one who's bringing up the schedule.

You literally are bringing up the schedule over and over. We're talking about a tail.

We're talking about football over here.

Yeah. We're talking about a half man, half horse. You just put the schedule. Schedule is rent-free in your head.

He also won the Bronco's Halloween party.

Did he not dress up? Did he not dress up? He just didn't dress up?

He was a lion. Lions have tails. He was swinging his fucking tail around. Okay. By What are the best performance by a Bronco's quarterback at their Halloween party that we know of. It's a sample size of two.

Okay, so Hank, last thoughts.

Patriot by I agree with Hank.

Okay.

Me too. I'm betting on the Patriots.

And you're going to... And PFT, you will have $40,000 for Hank the minute that the Patriots win?

I will pay Hank. Hank will get his $40,000 if they win.

Also, really exciting announcement if the Patriots win.

What's that?

That's all I'll say.

Okay.

How exciting.

If you love the dog tour, you're going to love this.

The dog tour?

Dog toy.

Dog toy.

Are you doing a light out?

I am Are you aware of what Hank is referring to?

A Lighthouse toy?

Something like that. Wait, so if the patrons don't win or we never get it?

They are. It'll be delayed a little bit.

We might be the insult toy off.

I'm trying to think what it could be.

It's not about you.

It might not be about you.

I highly doubt that.

It could definitely not be about you.

It could be about anything.

So, yeah, stay tuned.

Is it going to be a little tiny action figure?

Who knows? Stay tuned.

Is it dogs?

Stay tuned.

What if the Patriots lose? Do we release the the Drake May T-shirt? No.

We should try and do a rerelease. This should be There will be a toy that is... Or there will be a... There will be something released no matter what, whether it's the rerelease of the Hank Dogg toy or something else.

We also are rereasing. We have a great part of My Tink Lighthouse T-shirts that I'll be wearing on stream, and they're back on sale now as you're listening to this, so check those out.

Okay. I do think that there's enough out there about Jared Sittam where I think that he could win the game. I don't think that he's dog shit. I think that he's a good quarterback with good tools, and Sean Payton is an excellent head coach. I don't think Payton is going to be like, Go out there and run the football. Limit your mistakes. I think he's going to tell Jared Sittam, Let it rip a little bit. Take some chances.

Yeah. No, I mean, the Broncos don't really run the football that much. You saw it against the Bills where they weren't running the ball against a bad run defense. This is a game to me that for the Broncos to win, they're going to have to get a couple of plays where you're like, How the fuck did that happen? That feels like it's going to have to be a fumble interception, a kick return, a punt block. They're going to need one of those. Then if they get one of those, then I think it could be a game.

Yeah, Sean Payton said it. He's going to go out, rip it. That will be our approach. 100%. I think Sean Payton is going to say, I'm going to live in I was Stitty today. Stitty is my guy. If it's not Stitty, guess what they have as a backup quarterback? Who? Ben Danucci.

Oh, yeah, that's right.

I'm just going to say this. You don't want to take Stitt out of the game because then You might have a J. M. Duke coming in to beat your ass, Hank. But that said, Patriots by 10. I'm going to be betting on the Patriots, my game of the calendar year.

I think this is a field goal game. I think the Patriots are going to win by three points, and I think that's a little overreaction, being four and a half is a lot for Jarrett Stitt.

Yeah. The reality is we can keep fighting against the Patriots, and we can keep being wrong. That's what we're doing right now. Forty thousand. Because they are just going to always be good at football. Your favorite team, no matter who you are, if it's not the Patriots, will never be as good as the Patriots. They will continue to win, and it will continue to enrage you as a fan of the NFL that sees a team that just got through a 20-year dynasty just reloading for another one. So you can either try to fight against the Windmills, Hank, Don Quixote, or you can lay back and just accept faith.

Don Trump is against the Windmills, too.

Yeah, I saw you liking those tweets.

Yeah, Macahank, lefty Lockwood. That's your man that can do both.

Okay, let's do the NFC Championship game because this game is going to be awesome. Rams, Seahawks, Rams plus two and a half, Over Under is 46 and a half. I mentioned Aaron Shatz earlier because we've had him on the show before the DVOA ranking that he does. He has this ranked as the best game, DVO ranking-wise, in the last 30 years. It's the number one and number two DVO-ranked teams going up against each other. Pretty cool. That feels significant. These two teams are really fucking good.

We also have this here between them. We're awesome already. Awesome.

We have a weird quirk in stats that, and I didn't realize this, but seven of the last eight teams to eliminate the 49ers have gone on to win the Super Bowl. That's crazy. That is wild. You beat the 49ers, you basically go to win the Super Bowl.

Does that include if you beat them in the Super Bowl?

Yeah. Counts if you beat them in the Super Bowl. But it's also the only loss was or the only one that doesn't hold up is the Brock Purdy game. The Eagles did not win that Super Bowl. They eliminated the 49ers. The Seahawks are primed to win the Super Bowl because they have eliminated the 49ers.

We've also got a very close matchup in terms of historical rankings against each other. The Seahawks are 29 and 28, lifetime against the Rams. The point difference is one. Seattle has outscored the Rams. They've scored 1,223 points. The Rams have scored 1,222 points in those games. So yes, it's gone back and forth. The Rams have not lost an NFC Championship since 1990. They're 5-0 since 1990 in NFC Championship games. I think we've got the best offensive coach in the NFL right now against the best defensive coach in the NFL right now. It's the who will overthink it game because both these guys are super smart. They know that the other guy is super smart. They're thinking, this guy knows what I like to do, but he also knows that I know that he knows what I like to do. One of the two guys is going to overthink it just a little bit too much. Historically, I feel like Sean McFay, these are games that he wins. Matt Stafford, not on the injury report this week. He's ready to go. Sam Darnold is still on the injury report with the oblique. Who knows how real that is?

Well, the crazy part about Sam Darnold is he didn't have to throw up much against the Niners, so we don't know how real that is. We don't know how injured he is. Speaking, by the way, to your point about Sean McFay, Sean McFay is 3-0 when facing a team for the third time in a season.

But in a rubber match, wouldn't you want the Trojan, Sam Darnold?

He might be hurt, though. He might be hurt, yeah. He might be hurt. Yeah, it does feel It's a weird... I keep getting to the point where I'm trying to figure out who I'm going to bet on this game. I think both teams are phenomenal. And both teams have proven that they are the best of the best in the NFL. But I keep going back that game that they played on Thursday night, whatever it was, week 15, and thinking about how that game went and how, I don't want to say fluky, but the two-point conversion, how everything transpired at the end of the game. If the Rams had won that game, what would we be thinking about this matchup?

Blow out. We'd be thinking Rams.

Yeah, we'd be thinking Rams. Because that game was so close, I'm thinking I'm leaning towards Rams, even though I think the Seahawks defense is the nastiest in the NFL. The Rams also do have a very good defensive line. They're Secondary is a little suspect, but that will be a big part of this.

I think it's more their corners are a little... Their safeties are good. You got the two cams. Yeah.

Then how much does Zack Charbonnet being out matter? Can Kenneth Walker be the bell cow?

Right. He's been a guy that's been pretty good getting 12, 13 carries a game. He might get 20, 22, 24 carries. Is he going to get tired?

I know this is not what people want to hear, but it just feels to me like the most coin flip game you could have, where it's just both really good teams, and it's not going to be a game where I walk away being like, Man, that one team just beat the fuck out of the other. It's going to be, Wow, if there wasn't this play, this play, this play, the other team would be in the Super Bowl.

There was some special team stuff in that first game, too.

Ram's special team is not elite.

Mcvay fired the special team's coach, though. It was right after that game, I think. He's like, Okay, we're not going to go through with this. I want to pick the Rams, but the reasons for thinking about the Seahawks are they seem to be the nastiest defense. They seem to just be all around the best team in the NFL for the entire season, if you look at it, and then the home field advantage.

Eleven straight home playoff victories with fans in the crowd. Yeah. I have significant.

This is entirely a coin flip game for me. I think I'm going to take the Rams just based on the experience of Matt Stafford and McVay as a playoff coach. I could very easily be wrong I don't know about that, but that's my logic going into it.

What do you guys do? Does everyone have a strong feeling about this game? You're rooting for the Rams, Hank?

I don't care.

You don't care either way?

It's a Super Bowl rematch either way.

It's going to be Stetson Bennett or Drew Locke. In the Super Bowl against the Patriots, so it doesn't really matter.

Yeah. If the Patriots win, then I will probably have a stronger opinion. If the Patriots lose, I could care less. You won't hear from for months. So, yeah. Do you guys-I lean.

You're just going to tap out if your team loses in the championship game.

Ramps.

You lean Ram's. Do you, Zaboo, have any thoughts on this game? Anything we're tossing around in our heads.

I think the Rams are going to win, but my focus is on Patriots, Broncos. I got to get Patriots minus four and a half on them.

Yeah, let's go.

It is a weird strength on strength. I saw this stat from SportsInfoSolutions. The Seahawks have the most two high safety looks, almost 80% they'll play that, and their six in success rate allowed from those looks, and the Rams' offense against those looks is second in success rate. This whole game feels like just strength on strength. Yeah. Which is going to be really good, and it's going to come down to a couple. The only thing that makes me lean the Rams is that Sean McVeigh coached a bad game against the bears. Will he coach two bad games in a row?

Probably not. Probably not. Probably not. Hank with Stidham.

By the way, that hype video of Mike McDonald, did you guys see that? Yeah. Was so sick. If you're a Seahawks fan, you've probably watched it a million times. He basically just called his shot. When he got there the first day, he was just like, Close your eyes. Imagine this. It's an NFC Championship game. The wind is howling. It's shitty for them, but it's perfect for us. It gave me chills. This team is really good and really fun. Sam Darnal could go to a Super Bowl.

That's going to be a loud fucking stadium. Loud. It's going to be super. So loud. Hank, have you thought at all about Stidham being like Belichick's hand-picked guy?

Mcdaniels' hand-picked guy.

Well, Belichick drafted him, right? He was the coach.

But McDaniels, obviously, was the Office of Coordinator then, and then he went out of his way to sign him to the Raiders when he was a head coach, and then they tried to sign him this pass-off season. So McDaniels loves him.

Mcdaniels loves him. Does that concern you at all?

No. Jared Sinema is good.

Okay.

No smile?

No.

By the way, I saw a crazy stat. What were you saying, Zack?

I was saying maybe it's Matt Stafford. I think Matt Stafford could do it.

Yeah.

I think he ran us on the Super Bowl. We were talking Super Bowl pics. I was just saying that to myself back here. I didn't mean to intrude. That's on me.

It does feel like Matt Stafford is here.

Is that right?

Yeah, he I think if he was going to do it, it's going to be Matt Stafford.

That's right. It's Matt Stafford. I got one more thing, Hank. One more thing. Before the season started, Oze the Mentalist made a prediction for the Super Bowl. His prediction, the Rams to Beat the Broncos, 23 to 14.

No shit.

Don't love that.

Holy shit.

If that does happen, I think we can all agree that this is all a simulation and everything is fake, right? Yeah. Society will collapse if Oze, the mentalist, is right about his Super Bowl pick and the score. That, to me, is like, forget about aliens coming down to Earth, forget about the second coming of Jesus, anything like that that could destabilize the planet. If Oze gets this right, that is proof that none of this is real. It's never happened. We're living in a computer.

Yeah. It's Oze, and it's the trust of toddler videos. Have you guys seen that, little girl?

No.

There's a little girl on TikTok who is picking games for her dad, I think, maybe works in sports radio in California. She's picking games. The first Wild Car Weekend, she went 0 for 6. Then divisional round, she got one right, and it was the Patriots. That's it. She's one for nine. She's also getting death threats now. She's four years old.

Let's everybody chill out. She's getting death threats. The O's thing does scare me.

Also, one of the, not death threats, but one of the comments that was quoted in the article was from Cardi B when she picked the Patriots. When she picked the Patriots versus Texans, before that game, she was 0 for 8 going into that game. And Cardi B said, Little white girl said we're going to win. Fuck that bitch. Listen, who she picks, the way The Nation waits with baited breath. The article is, Viral's 4-year-old Southern California Girl gets death threats over NFL pics. Oh, my God. I mean, it's crazy that she started that bad.

Yeah.

All right. So O's and trust the toddler.

These are bad signs. Bad signs. These are bad signs for the world. Bad signs. Hank, we okay?

We're great. Okay.

I saw a crazy stat. Do you know that Mike Vrabel is actually now the longest tenured coach in the AFC East? Yeah. That's pretty nuts. Also, there are two coaches in the AFC that were hired before 2022, so two coaches left.

Hank, when you get to hang out with- Andy Reid and Zack Taylor, which is very funny. Zack Taylor being up there. That's wild. When you get to hang out with your Patriots friends, are you like, Thank God, not around these fucking losers anymore? Yes. Yeah.

Duh.

They don't know what winning culture is.

Duh. Yeah. Duh. Okay, should we do anything else on Seahawks' Ramps? Anyone got anything else? I'm excited for this game. I'm so excited for this game. I'm very excited. So, so pumped for this game. It's going to be great. And I think both those teams... Again, I know it's bad analysis to say 50/50 coin flip game, but it does feel like it's just going to come down to a play here or there, and both teams are going to... The loser of this game is going to walk away saying, We just squandered an opportunity. We should be in the Super Bowl.

I'm going to be rooting for the Seahawks, to be clear. I would love to see the Seahawks win this game, get to the Super Bowl. But if you're making me pick, I think the Rams are going to win.

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So the Picks Competition, it's just me and Max because Zack has not won a game forever and is officially last. We're going to now find out. So it's going to be Zack doing the stream, 36 hours stream. And who will join him with the 18 hours stream. Right now, the standings are I have 25, Max has 24, so I'm one ahead of Max. Pftu finished in third, officially with 20. 5 points. Hank and Memes finished in tied for fourth with 20 points. So congrats to beating Hank. Thanks. Yeah. And Zack is in last with 17. 5 points.

What?

What?

You look like you're about to say something.

You're happy you don't have to do a punishment. It's just me or Max. What happens if we're tied after this week? Do we go Super... Oh, we go Super Bowl 11 props, right? Duel. Sure. The bedding dual. Bedding dual. There'll be a bedding dual prop off to decide who has to go in the stream with Zack, which will be fun. Zack, are you excited?

Somebody had to clinch last. I did clinch last. I think it'll be a good time.

You were so far away from... How many weeks did you not get one right?

It couldn't be colder. Several weeks. Some are saying, transcended years. I haven't won a pick since 2025.

Yeah, because it's actually amazing that you...

I was stalling.

Yeah, you didn't finish that far behind everyone. You had It was an ample opportunity, I believe.

I think I won two games in four weeks.

Three weeks in a row, I had an opportunity to make a switch, climb up the board, and I just stalled and kept stalling and couldn't get started.

I'm looking back right now Hold on. I'm trying to find... Oh, my God, Zack, this is going way back. Okay. Where's this from?

He went one-on-one last week.

Oh, yeah. No, he had 60. 5 points for what feels like a really long time before vacation because I'm now looking at the picture of the bad picture of Hank on vacation when I'm scrolling back.

If you're going to lose, lose consistently.

All right, Max, you want to go first?

Congrats on not losing, Hank.

Thank you. You, too. You can go first. We won.

I won? We both did.

Pft, I texted you my top four.

I got all of them. You go first.

I'm going under in the Patriots, Broncos, under 42. 5 in that game.

Okay, I'll go Seahawks-Rams, over 46. 5.

I'm going to go Patriots minus 4. 5. Half.

I'll go Broncos plus 4.

5. Oh, yes.

I'll go head-to-head on that one. That'll be good. Love it. One head-to-head.

So you're-I'm doubling up on that game. Yeah.

That'll be huge. Coming down the stretch.

So if Max goes 2-0.

I have to win one to keep it alive. Do we agree, Max, that no matter what, if there's a winner after this week, that's the winner? If there's a second- Oh, yeah, that's it. We're not doing-No. The only way we go Super Bowl-Is it time. Yeah, is it time? Yeah. Okay. Good preview, everyone. Excited for the games. Really good preview. Streaming them. A lot of facts. I'm sad that we only have three football games left. Bums me out.

This is when the season starts.

Bums me out. Bums me out hard.

Wake me up in the AFC Championship. Really hard. It's good to be back.

Okay, let's get you our interview.

You're such a piece of shit.

Interview with Mark Schlarith.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest, one of our favorite guys, long-time recurring guest. By the way, we're getting close to 10 years. You got to celebrate with us. It is Mark Schlerith. You can find him on the Stink & Truth podcast on YouTube. He's the man. And Stink, we wanted to have you on. Talk some ball. Conference Championship Sunday. Let's start with this. What is your favorite Conference Championship Sunday memory? Because you played in a lot of them.

Yeah, I did play in a few. Gosh, my favorite memory. I think being a wild card team with the Denver Broncos going to Pittsburgh, winning that Championship in Pittsburgh, heading to the Super Bowl to play the Green Bay Packers. But the very last play of the game where we had to convert on a third down and seven. If we don't convert, we got to give the ball back to Pittsburgh. And Elway comes into the huddle, and we call a play that wasn't in the playbook at the time. We didn't practice it that week. It was in the playbook Look, but we hadn't practiced it all week. It wasn't in the game plan. And Sharp is going crazy in the huddle going, Man, that play is not in. That play is not in. And Elway just looked at him and said, It doesn't matter. Just get open. And it's the last play of the game. And Sharpie runs a little like six, seven-yard hitch, and Elway puts it on him and he bobbles it, and then he catches it and falls down first down, and then we can seal the game. We can just take the knee three times.

So it's probably my favorite Championship game, simply because of the Broncos at that time had never won a Championship. We're going to the Super Bowl. Elway had been there three times, but had lost. So that was probably my best Championship moment.

So a follow-up question on that. When you get to Championship Sunday, do you feel a difference in the locker room? Because you now are one step away from the Super Bowl, where maybe the earlier rounds of the playoffs, it's, Hey, we got a job to do. It's business as usual. It's just trying to win a game. And now you're there. It just feels there's something about that Sunday where it's like, Hey, there's four teams. Two of these teams are going to be etched in history because they're going to play in the Super Bowl. Can you feel that going into that week?

I I think the week is very much that way. The week is because you've got the ticket request, you've got the enormity of it, everybody's talking about it, people around your locker room, all that stuff. So all that stuff is real, and you got to deal with it. And I remember that Championship weekend in Pittsburgh, man, there are people just drove around our hotel, honking their horns all night long. All night long, you wake up and people are just honking your horns. So that's real. But I think the thing that's not real that people don't really understand is you can have all the motivation in the world, and they're disrespecting us, and the Green Bay packers don't think we can win, or whatever it is. But as soon as you get that first hit in, as soon as you snap the ball and you have that first play, you don't ever think about any of that stuff. None of that stuff comes to the forefront of your mind. You're thinking about what I have to do to execute, what I have to do to help my team win, how can we be better, whatever it is.

But it just becomes a game. And I always tell people who have played in or people who ask for my advice, say, the team that settles into just playing a game and executing is a team that's probably going to win. The team that lets all that stuff go and just goes out and plays. But for the most part, once you start the game, once it's kicked off, you don't go, Oh, 50 million people are watching us, or 100 million people are watching us. You don't think that way.

Yeah. Can we take a trip down memory lane, maybe to a not-so-great memory that you might have from your time playing? Yeah. It's January fourth, 1997, and it's the Broncos, and they're hosting the Jacksonville Jaguars. I actually talked about this game maybe three or four weeks ago on this show because we were talking about the pressure being on the one seat sometimes. I told the story of how when you were coaching my Little League baseball team and basketball team, you would bring this up in every pump-up speech that you gave to us as 11 or 12-year-olds. You would talk that game because it obviously affected you in a deep way losing that one game. The next two seasons, you came back, you avenged that loss. You went a couple more Super Bowl. So it's a good ending to that story. But how often do you think about that game? Do you still think about that?

Oh, yeah. I think as a player, you think about the mistakes. I can remember holding calls that got touch downs called back. I can't remember a good block that I threw or whatever, but I can remember the bad That stuff that went down. The crazy thing about that Jacksonville Jaguars game is I came home Wednesday after we put the game plan in. We're sitting down as a family together eating dinner, and my wife was like, What's wrong? What's bothering you? And I was like, Man, I just don't like this. I don't like what we put in today. I don't like our game plan. And she's like, What are you talking about? And I'm going, Man, we ran the ball against everybody. And we've got Terrell Davis, who is unbelievable, making up for a multitude of sins. And I was like, They can line up. We're doing a lot of the way the NFL operates today. There's a lot of, you hear it all the time, kill it packages or can it packages, and they change to play. Well, we put our game plan was almost exclusively like, Hey, man, if they give us this front or this safety rotation, we're going to throw it.

But if they give us this, we're going to stay in the run. And ultimately, I was like, They can check us out of our run game. Just by lining up, they can check us out of our run game. And that's the best thing that we do, is running the football and wearing people out. And sure enough, we get into that game. And I think Terrell Davis had 14 carries for 95 yards. And Terrell was 25 to 29, 30 carries every single game. On the season, he ended with 1,700 and some odd yards in that season. And I think it was 1,700. It doesn't matter. Maybe it was 1,500, whatever it was. But sure enough, man, they checked us out of that. And it's funny for the next two years, we would be in practice sometimes. And practice wasn't going well. We didn't execute some plays or whatever. And we'd be in the huddle going, Hey, man, don't let that Jacksonville thing clip us. We were literally for two years. It was like that thing hung your shoulder. And anytime things, we'd be in the huddle going for a game-winning drive, and it'd be like, Hey, man, we got to go out there and get this drive, man.

We don't want this Jacksonville thing to happen. I mean, for two years, it's all we talked about. It really was a catalytic event that led us to back-to-back championships in Denver.

Yeah. Obviously, this weekend, a very important game for the Broncos. Nobody knows really what to expect from Stitt. That's the thing. It's like, I think that he's good. I think that Sean Payton selected him for a reason and went out his way to get Stitt as the backup. But we really haven't seen him in live-action in, what, over two years. So it's anyone's guess what's going to happen this weekend. What would you anticipate Sean Payton is going to do with him this weekend?

Well, I think Stitt knows the offense. He's been in it for three years. Sean Payton has signed him twice now. I look at it like this. I know everybody is concerned about it. The narrative around town here. I was at the game on Sunday, and so there's this elation of winning that game and being in an Championship game to get in the car, heading home, and then all of a sudden, getting the report that Bo Nicks broke his ankle. And at first, I thought it was fake. At first, I was like, Come on. Schefter got hacked or whatever, right? Yeah. And And so we've got a family text going around. My son's like, No, it's true. So anyhow, I think the whole narrative here in Denver was, Oh, Stitty this, Stitty that. I was like, You know what? I'm far less concerned about Jared Stittam than I am about the way our defense played against Buffalo. Our defense got run through. I thought we got out-executed, out-game planned, out-schemed as a defense. And ultimately, Obviously, Josh Allen probably played the worst playoff game he's ever played. And he had three or four touch downs. He had a over route to tie it in.

I think it was Knox that he just over threw that was a touch down and would have ended the game. He had the one throw that he gets zero blitz. He's got the throw to Cooks. And if he just throws it toward the sideline, that's a touch down. But he throws it back in the middle of the field. Cooke has to adjust, and it gives Jaquan McMillan a chance to catch up and get that interception. There were the other interception that happened earlier in the game. P. J. Locke takes a pick, and I'm standing with Peyton Manning. I was in this humble break. I was in Peyton Manning's suite. Nice. Watching the game with Peyton.

Nice box.

Because we're tired of the mouse nuts, me and Peyton. And he says to me, he goes, Hey, man, if Josh Allen just throws it to the B, the Broncos, the first letter in Broncos in the end zone because that's a shutdown 100 out of 100 times. But he threw it back in the middle of the field, which allowed the safety to catch up and intercept it. So if Josh Allen just plays a prototypical Josh Allen game, they probably score 48 points on the Broncos and walk away with a victory. So I was more concerned about the way our defense played than I am about Stitty going into this game.

And so you bring up a good point because a lot of the conversation is going to be about Jared Stitt. But the Broncos defense, which was phenomenal to start the year, has been leaking oil down the stretch. What is it? What do you think it is, specifically, that they've maybe not been as good at where in the beginning of the season, they were exhaling?

Big Cat, I think it's attrition. Playing defense, and I played defense through college, it's a lot harder than it is playing offense. If I block you or I cut you, I just lay on my big fat stomach and I just watch the play like this. You got to get up off your fat ass and you got to run and chase it. It's just harder to play. It's harder to play defense. And so I think that early in the season, the Broncos, they led the league throughout the majority of the season in three and outs. The pressure that puts on your defense, the exhaustion that that puts on your defense. And I think the defense played exceptionally well throughout the season. And the Broncos, offensively, really, there were just moments where all of a sudden they triggered. And I think part of it was they got into these critical moments where they had to have it drives, and they got into tempo offense. They got into a situation where they weren't worried about about calling plays in the huddle and motioning and different personnel changes. They were just lining up statically and saying, Let's go. I thought that's where Bo Nicks played his best football.

In the fourth quarter, in multiple games, that Giants game where they score 30 whatever points, they scored the fourth quarter. That Philadelphia game where they came back from 18 down, I think, in the fourth quarter. They would do two or three quarters where they were just nonexistent. I think that attrition piled on the Broncos. I think the other thing that happened in the divisional round of the playoffs, that crowd noise was crazy. I don't think as a player at home and playing in Denver, I ever really focused on it because I play on the offensive side of the ball, so it wasn't a problem for us, right? But I thought our defense didn't communicate very well. And that crowd noise affected our defense more than it affected Buffalo's offense. And you see multiple times where they're running a swing pass, and I get it, you complete a swing pass and it gets three or four yards, and you're like, You know what? We got to rally up and get that one. They're throwing swing passes. They're getting 20 yards, and we're getting picked. And the communication is not there where you're getting through that pick or you're going Banjo and you're trading it off or whatever you got to do to take care of that.

It wasn't getting done. So I thought Buffalo dealt with the crowd noise better than the Broncos defense dealt with the crowd noise.

That's interesting.

Yeah, the Broncos, they haven't been great at turning the ball over this year. They got some last week, which is huge against the Bills, but they're the opposite of what we've talked about with the bears, which is like they were a very good defense in terms of yards, in terms of all that stuff, but they didn't get too many turnovers. Did they do something different last weekend? Because I know that they got a few fumbles.

Yeah, they got a couple of fumbles. There was one, their middle linebacker did a great job of fighting across the traffic and then putting his foot in the ground and going back in their singleton and creating a fumble. That was big. I I really look at, and I talked about this on the stink of truth, I really look at Sean McDermott getting fired. And I thought the biggest thing, and this was the problem, and Sean's a great guy, but the problem is oftentimes when you get the tight games, tightly contested games, I thought that that coaching staff oftentimes just push the chips into the Josh Allen table and say, Hey, go win us a game. And I go back to the Bronco scoring, kicking the ball off, 16 seconds left, and I'm shouting like, Hey, you just take a knee here. And all of a sudden, they drop back. Josh Allen scrambles. He doesn't secure the ball. He gets however many yards he gets, and they create a fumble, and then the Broncos are able to kick a 50-yard field goal to go in at halftime with, what was it? A 23 to 10 lead.

And I look at that and I'm like, that is exactly what I'm talking about. When you put it on your quarterback and go, hey, man, what did you think was going to happen? Did you think you're going to throw a 75-yard countdown? Or they're going to sit there and they're going to play a three-deep, like chain's defense, where everybody's going to be at the chain. You're going to have three guys at 20 yards deep, and you're saying basically, throw the ball underneath, and we're going to rally up and tackle you. Did you think you were going to go 45 yards and kick a 55-yard field goal? Just the utter stupidity of going out there and doing that and giving away three points to me, it was one of those things where I'm like, What are you guys thinking? What could you possibly be thinking in that situation. And they were able to create all kinds of turnovers. And obviously this week against the New England Patriots, that's going to be the thing. Drake May has put the ball on the ground six times in the last two games. And that pass rush and those things are going to have to be great.

They're going to have to create those turnovers to be able to win this game. And they did it last week. Can they do it again? I don't know. But that certainly will be one of those things. It reminds me of coaching you in Little League Base. Yeah, it was pretty good. Where As a coach, I would always be like, Hey, you can't walk anybody. Throw strikes. You can't throw balls. You can't throw anything. And then all of a sudden, you throw four balls in a row. I got to come out there and yell at you. And I feel like Drake May is hearing all the time. Got to secure the ball. Got to have ball security, man. You can't put the ball on the ground. You can't put the ball on the ground. And it's almost like one of those things where you start thinking about that more than you're thinking about the job that you're supposed to do. And that puts him in a tough position.

Yeah. I have an altitude-related question, specifically for Drake May, because he's never played at altitude before. He said he's never been to Colorado. He's never thrown a football at an elevation. Were there any opponents that you had where you could tell right away, this guy is not built for the mountains?

No, probably not. But you can tell late in games. That's where... And the Broncos, this is where the Broncos don't have an advantage. They're not very good at running the ball. They haven't been very good at running the ball all year. That's where That's where the advantage comes in, because you can get to the point, if you're really running it well, where you can see guys wearing out, where you can see guys just not having that same energy that they had at the beginning of the game because the altitude gets to them, and They get heavy legs and everything else. So that's where you really have the advantage in Denver. I never played here either as a visitor. I always played here as part of the home team. So you develop, because you live here, you develop develop the extra red blood cells that carry oxygen or whatever it is. And so it never is a problem for us as players. I will tell you this, the transverse of it, if that's a word, is apparent When you went to sea level, when we went to go play Seattle in the Kingdom or go play the Chargers in San Diego, I felt like I could play all day long.

You just felt great. You're like, Man, we could play another two quarters. I feel great. It's got to be the opposite of that has to be true when you come here, especially if you got to be on the field a long time, it wears you out. Yeah.

Okay, the other game, NFC Championship, which I'm so excited for, Rams and Seahawks. I'm sure you've watched some tape, you've studied these teams. I see this game as a complete coin flip. We just taped our preview, and it's terrible analysis, but it's like these two teams are both just so good. And yeah, there's some weaknesses in the cornerbacks of the the Rams. And then you got questions about Sam Darnold and the oblique. But overall, they're just solid teams that if they play 10 times, it's going to probably be 5-5. What do you see in this game? Does anyone have a distinct advantage? And what do you expect?

Yeah, I think you're 100 % on. I think these two teams are both... I thought the Rams were the best team in football for a while. And I think over the last few weeks, Seattle has become the best team in football. Seattle does such a phenomenal job. And I say this all the time, and it's simple. It's simple to say it's hard to do it. If all you do is tackle well in the NFL, you're going to have a pretty good defense. And I haven't seen a team tackle better than the Seahawks all season long, especially here in the last few weeks. When you throw a ball and you throw an option route, say, to Christian McAfree, and he catches it at three yards, and you think, Man, he's going to turn up inside. I'm going to put it on his inside shoulder. He's going to turn away, spin away from the leverage of the defense. Man, he's going to get an extra three or four yards, and it's going to be second down in three. And then you throw the little angle route or little option route. He catches it and bam, he's hit and he's down.

And now it's second down in seven, and you're still behind the chains. That is consistent with Seattle. They have been unbelievable. And Mike McDonald does a great job of attacking protections. So he does a really good job of understanding where you're sliding, where you're getting the help, and then finding some one-on-ones, especially with Leonard Williams, who has been unblockable when he's one-on-one inside on a guard. It's been an unfair contest. So I think they've been exceptional at that. And then I go back to the first game between the Rams and the Seahawks, where Sam Darnold threw four picks, and they still only lost that game 21: 19. 19. And I sit there and think to... I looked at the last couple of weeks and I watched Sam Darnold play, and he's got an incredible story about his journey in the NFL. And I relayed this on the podcast I guess, but I'll relay it to you guys, because I've sat in there with Sam Darnold on several different occasions. I've sat in with Kyle Shanaher. So Kyle told me, Hey, listen, Sam Darnal goes to the Jets. He gets drafted by the Jets. I think it was Jeremy Bates was the offense coordinator who is running the Peyton Manning offense.

And he says, There's only one person in the history of the National Football League that can run the Peyton Manning offense. That's Peyton Manning. So right off the bat, Sam Darnal is a rookie, and you've given him this impossible task to run this offense. Then Then you can because he's no good. Then he goes to the Carolina Panthers and is running a collegiate offense that Matt Rule is running. And that's not a true offense. So he had no idea how to run a progression NFL-style offense. And so he's got an opportunity to go start or go play and compete for a starting job. And he tells Kyle Shanaher, No, I don't want to start. I want to go, and I want to learn how to play in a pure progression offense and be a backup in San Francisco. So backs up Brock Purdy. Shanaher couldn't speak any more highly of Sam Darnal. Brock Purdy said, Man, what he has done for me as a player, man, he's just been instrumental in my development. Then he goes and wins 14 games with Minnesota, and they kick him to the curb. They shit, can't him? And then he gets an opportunity to go to Seattle.

And I come full circle to that first game where he throws the four picks. I watched him take a couple of sacks last weekend. I watched him throw the ball away. Here is a guy that has grown in maturity that has used all that pain and frustration and being called the bust and all those things as a number three overall pick. He's used that to his advantage. He's not worried about putting up stats. He's worried about wins. And he is looking at it from a standpoint, the only way my team that's playing so well right now loses is if I screw it up. And he took two sacks against San Francisco, where I just looked at him and going, that was the best play could possibly make right there is just eat it. Just curl up, protect the ball, take the sack, and move on. And he's playing with unbelievable maturity, and it's fun to watch. And I've gotten to know him calling some games as much as you can get to know a guy sitting down for 20 minutes. But I know a lot of people within that organization, and they just speak so highly of him.

It's a great story. And with that Seahawks team, they had, unfortunately, the loss of Charbonet. It looks like he's going to be done for a while, but they had a two-headed monster at running back. They had A and B. I don't know even who you put first. If you were to say Kenneth Walker or Charbonet is number one on the death chart. But they interchange them all the time. Each guy was getting 12 carries a game. From an offensive line perspective, is there anything different that you would do if you've got running back by committee, depending on who's in on what series? If it's a guy like Kenneth Walker and Charbonnet, who I think are actually relatively similar as far as running backs go. But is there anything at all that would change about your play, depending on which back you got in?

No. It's funny. I played in Super Bowl 32 with the Broncos versus the Green Bay Packers, where we kick off at 11. 5 point underdogs. And Terrell Davis left in the second quarter at some point with a migraine. I didn't even know he was in the locker room. I execute the block I'm trying to execute. I do the things that I'm trying to do. It comes down to the backs. How do you hit the entry points? How do you set up blocks? That's on those guys. And one of the big things to me that I always focus on as a player, and I've had opportunities to consult for several different teams. As a matter of fact, I did a whole tutorial on a Friday practice with the Houston Texans earlier in the season. And the same thing with the Atlanta Falcons earlier in the season. And one of the things that always frustrates me as a player is I see how quickly guys try to get to linebackers, try to get to the second level. And it drives me nuts at times because I'm like, Dude, block the line of scrimmage first. I don't care about getting the second level.

Make those guys bubble. Don't let them play downhill. You'll be fine. And you look at it, that's the back's responsibility. The back has to set up linebackers. The back has to set that stuff up. So I just don't think you really think about it as an offensive lineman. I will say this. I've always liked Kenneth Walker, but I always thought of him as a battering ram type of guy. I didn't realize how... He is exceptional. Athletically, he's got speed. He can be a hammerhead. But I think that guy is very versatile. And just watching him play, man, he was exceptional last week, but he's been really good. So I think they're okay. You always miss the guy who comes in and has that ability. And the thing about them is they're both productive. So I worry about who's next because you can't just go, Hey, Kenneth Walker, you're getting 32 carries this game when you're used to getting 15 or 16 or 18. And so who comes in next? And how does that guy mesh with the way the offensive line blocks? How does that guy by, create opportunities at the second level? How does he actually block that second level?

How does he read? How does he get into his entry point? I think one of the things about the running game that people don't really realize is the importance of the pace that you run with to the line of scrimage, the patience and the pace and where you enter the line of scrimage. So you have to, great backs, understand Hey, here's the weakness, here's the strength of the front that I'm playing against. And you don't predetermine it, but you get yourself ready for, Hey, man, that guy is playing as a seven technique, and I know his job is to set the edge and turn it back inside. So I'm going to press it to try to get the linebackers to flow. But I know odds are I'm cutting back the B-gap or the A-gap. And so the great ones really understand the scheme, where the strength of the scheme where the weakness of the scheme is. And so I worry about the backups who haven't played very much. Do they have that ability? Because Charbonneau certainly had it, and Walker certainly has it.

Velas Jones, legacy game.

Yeah, Velas Jones.

That's what we might be looking at.

And a fumble. Question about this game as well. The Seahawks have some doubts on their offensive line. We're taping this on Thursday, so we'll get more information as we get deeper in the injury report. But on Wednesdays His injury report, I think all three of their left tackles did not practice. I think their center is up in the air. How is that for a quarterback going into a game where it's like, you don't know, it might be the second string guy, third string, whatever it may be, shifting around the offensive line for a game like this.

Yeah, really what it amounts to. I would always expect guys to play because it's the NFC Championship game, right? But if you do have that, then it becomes one of those things from a coaching staff standpoint is, how do we get the ball out quickly? How do we help our guys? I always think about this from, put a guy in a position to fail as a coach. Don't be surprised when he fails because you're the dumb ass that put him in there. So when you get a backup player, you have to know that guy's strengths, and you also have to be able to mitigate that guy's weaknesses. And So then you start to say, okay, if it's our left tackle and we've got a backup left tackle, what can that guy do? What can he not do? And how do we protect him? Do we slide protection over there? Do we line up a tight end? Do we run a back over there? How are we going to do that? And then it becomes, okay, how good are we at running the ball? How can we take some of that pressure off? Sacks and pressures on the quarterback, to me, are more of a quarterback statistic and an offensive coordinator statistic.

So you've got to be able to, and I always talk to teams about this, how are you taking the passive out of pass protection? So how can you become the aggressor? And you become the aggressor through the way you call plays. And if I call enough plays and I'm running the ball efficiently enough, and then I'm running, I categorize play action in two categories. There's the run action, play action, which is really based on the run. That's where you see all the boot keeps at the backside and all that stuff. And then there's the play pass aspect. Aspect, where you fake the hand off and you drop back. You're at a seven-step drop, right? You keep seven guys in protection, maybe an eight sometimes. So there's two distinct different levels of play action pass. And then how many bubble screens and how many quick passes do you run? How many three-step drops do you run? And can I go attack the line of scrimage in a three-step drop? And then all of a sudden, if I've done enough of that stuff, all of a sudden, I can take a five-step drop that I know there's no hitch in.

I know the is going to be out fairly quick, and I can run block that. And I've actually done that in a game where I've had a defensive lineman tell me, Dude, you can't do that. You guys are throwing. And I was like, I just did it. You can't run block me on that. You're throwing, Yeah, I just did it. And D. Lyman are dumb, so they can't help themselves. I don't hold that against them because they're just... If you invited D. Lyman to run up the B-gap, you know what he's going to do? He's going to run up the B-gap because he's not very smart. So you can take that at those guys. But yeah, that becomes how you call a game as a coordinator and how you let the offensive line dictate the tempo of the game. If all you do is drop back 45 times and you're running five-step drops with hitches and seven-step drops, there's not an offensive line in the league that's going to hold up over the long haul doing that. They're all going to get their asses kicked.

Yeah. Is there anything that you're looking forward specifically this weekend, like something you've got your eye on that maybe we're not talking about enough that you haven't heard other people mention that's interesting to you?

Yeah. I'm really interested. So the Buffalo Bills, from a schematic standpoint, they did two things, man. They ran a pitch-toss concept, and they created these swinging gates. And anytime you pitch the ball outside as an offense, you don't have to be aggressive off the line of scrimage. We used to call it jump booking guys. You can just let them penetrate and get around on the side of them, circle them, and let them get penetration because the ball with a pitch or toss is automatically outside of that guy. And so the Broncos never adjusted to that. So I'm interested to see if, in fact, the New England Patriots try some of that same stuff on offense. The other thing, they did a great job of... They ran weak, and And when they ran weak, they used their tight-end and receiver on the strong side, split away from the formation. So about two yards away from the formation, which made the Broncos slide out there with their defensive ends. And then on that, they ran on They ran an arc release outside, which further widened the defensive end, and it jet sweeped to the guy. And so they started running this 15-week cutback.

And the first play of the game, if you look at the first play of the game, they got 25 yards running that play. And there was an eight-yard gap where that defensive end got the arc release. First off, the wide formation, the arc release, the jet sweep, and then Oh, by the way, the handoff with the back turned to him by Josh Allen, and then the boot keep out the backside. So he stopped his feet three times. And then James Cook just ran and cut back on that weak side handoff. And there was literally an eight-yard gap between the defensive tackle and the defensive end who was Cooper at the time or the outside linebacker. It was 25 yards right off the bat. And so there was probably four or five different run schemes that they gash the Broncos with that I'm really interested to see how Vance Joseph and that staff adjust to that because you know you'll see some variation of that. And then ultimately, the Rams have been really interesting to me because there are times when Sean McVay drives me crazy because they've got a great run scheme with their 12 and 13 personnel, their two tight ends and three tight ends, and they just forget to do it.

They happen on Sunday against the bears.

I was yelling at the TV, Big Cat. Line up and give it to Kyrie and Williams. I'm yelling.

I was doing the opposite. I was saying, I hope they don't realize they should be running the ball, and they did. Yeah.

By the way, that throw that Caleb Williams made- Insane. Dude, I'm literally... I know you were there. I'm screaming at the TV like, You can't drop it.

You can't drop it.

That was the greatest throw I've ever seen. The greatest throw. It was the most It was an amazing thing, man.

It really was. It was the no, no, no, yes play, and we had so many of those. Yeah.

Now, I tell you what, they were so much fun to watch. And watching it, I know his completion percentage wasn't great over the season, and I've talked to Ben Johnson a bunch about the growth and what they're trying to accomplish. But man, I don't know that there's a more exciting player than that dude off schedule. That dude is just a freak show.

Yeah. But you were saying the Ram's run game is really good, and they go away from it.

Right. It's really good, especially when they get in those multiple tight endsets. I'm a big believer in keep it simple, stupid, and maybe that's because I'm not the brightest dude, but I just like doing what I do. I'm a big believer in find your identity, find two or three things you do really well, put some window dressing on them, do whatever, but just go out, and it's the 10th 1,000-hour rule. I've done it 10,000 times. You've defended it 100 times. I'm better than you. I know that I'm better than you, and we're just going to whip your ass. It's a global, Jim. We're better than you, and we know it. I'm a believer. I'm believer in that style of football. Yeah.

All right. I got one last question for you. This has been so much fun, Stink. It's great talking ball with you. Everyone go check out his YouTube channel, the Stink & Truth podcast, because he's breaking down all these games. He's smarter than everyone on football. So rowbackquestion, rho, back. Com, promo code take 20% off your first purchase, Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback. Com, promo code take. I wanted to ask you, how did you think the Elway documentary came out? Because I watched I loved it. I know there's some conflicting... People don't love that there's documentaries now where the main character gets final say over things because you can't really... It's just one tone. I don't really care because I'm like, Hey, I want to watch old highlights of football. And my biggest takeaway from it was, we just don't respect enough how tough John Elway was. He got the shit kicked out of him, especially at the beginning of his career. And just watching that, I was like, Man, When was he tough? And man, do they officiate the quarterbacks in a completely different way these days? But what did you think when you saw that documentary?

Same thing, man. I love it. I love the history of the league, and I don't care if it's a little bit of revisionist history or whatever the case may be. I'm not ever trying to break news. I just love football, and you're 100% right. Playing with John, the dude was unbelievably tough, and There was always... People always ask me what it was like playing with him, and it didn't really matter what the situation was. You always felt like he was going to make a play and you're going to win a football game. You could be down by 14, you walk into the huddle, and he never yelled. He just wasn't that way. It was just this confidence about, All right, let's go get them. Let's go put it together. And there was just always that feel of, Man, if we just hold up, he's going He's going to do something that's just spectacular. And that part was really the best. It was just cool to be in the huddle and to have so many of those victories and to play so well. And it was cool to be a part of it, man. It really was.

So I'm with you. Like I said, I'm never trying to break news. I don't care. I'm just trying to talk about the game I love and talk about football and just enjoy it as a fan. And you're 100 % right. I As a matter of fact, I was just watching this highlight clip that I came across of Elvis Dumerville. He just about crushed the sternum of Tom braided. And I thought to myself, dude, you would go to jail if you If you hit a quarterback like that today, you're going to jail. It was amazing. And at that moment, I was like, Man, I have so much respect for braided. I have so much respect for guys who played back then because they did get the absolute snot beat out of him.

Did Did you know that Elway didn't have an ACL when you were playing with him?

Yeah.

I would bring that up all the time if I was John Elway. It's crazy. After every single game or any mistake that I had, well, it's probably because I don't have an ACL. Yeah.

Probably because you guys didn't see fit to put an ACL back in my knee the first time I tore it up.

Yeah, it's pretty insane. It's crazy. Especially considering how mobile he got. I got one last question for you, Stink. Do you actually pee on bathroom floors?

In planes?

Yeah.

Yeah, I'll shake it. I Not the whole bladder, but I'll shake it off on the floor a little bit.

To mark the territory or to punish people that wear socks?

No, for the people that wear socks. I fly every week and I've watched people cut their toenails, their finger nails. I watch people wear a tank top. I understand if you're a lady and you have beautifully manicured toes, and you wear sandals, God bless you. But I don't want to I don't need to see a dude in flip flops. I don't need to see your arm pit hair in a tank top. I can't tell you how many times I've been sitting, and I'm blessed that Fox flies me around first class, but somebody get up in their socks and walk into the bathroom. I'm like, What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? I feel it's my duty just to shake it up. Even it out. Yeah. Just a few little drops here and there just to let you know that if you wear your socks in there, you're coming home with urine on them.

So if you're on a plane and you see Stinks sitting in first class, make sure you put your shoes back on.

Strap up. It'd be a good choice. Yeah. Our producer, Hank, he goes shoeless on planes all the time. He walks around in his socks. It's disgusting.

It's a weird move.

It's a really weird move. So anyhow, I'm with you. And by the way, we've got to, because I get stopped all all the time for the work I've done in television. But where I get stopped and talk to the most. If I get stopped 10 times, probably seven of them are about piss dogs.

And you won three Super Bowl.

Right. Seven of them are about piss dogs. So we have to have a piss dogs reunion at some point. Yes, we do. Yes. We've got to reenact it.

I love that. If the Broncos get to the Super Bowl and you're out in the area, we will pee on our social media.

A hundred %. Broncos in the Super Bowl. We're doing a video in San Francisco, Pissed Dogs Reunion. Yep. All right.

I love it.

All right, Stink. You're the best, man. Thank you.

All right, guys. We'll see you later. Thank you so much, man. Appreciate you.

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Okay, Firefest Fest of the Week. Henry. Yeah. By the way, we didn't mention it, but a potential Firefest for Steelers fans, Mike McCarthy has completed his interview.

I actually don't hate it. I actually don't hate it. I think Mike McCarthy is not a bad coach.

Yeah, but it's just very funny because the Steelers team account tweeted out that they have completed an interview with Mike McCarthy, and the replies just, No, fuck this. Why would you hire this guy? It actually would be very anti-stealer. It'd be unorthodox for the Stealers to do it. I know that Mike McCarthy is a yinzer, all that stuff, but they have usually hired guys off the radar who are younger and can stay there for 30 years.

That's true. And Flores also resigned with the Vikings.

I hate that.

But my understanding is that if he gets offered a head coaching job, he's going to take it. So it's like if someone offer. If he's going to be a coordinator, he's going to be coordinator in Minnesota.

Offered a head coaching job.

Probably, yeah.

My Firefest, not a huge deal. Derrick Rose getting 100 nights to honor him. I said this. Is A minor inconvenience, not really a full Firefest, but Celtics are in Chicago this weekend. Used game time, got the best deal I could, but tickets were still very pricey. I was like, Why are these tickets so expensive? Yeah, it's a bear night. I was like, Oh, it's Derek Rosenight. I was like, Has there not been three Derek Rose nights already?

Yep. What are the different eras of the Derek Rose night?

They did two last year. I talked about this last year or whenever. No, I talked about it before the season started.

So last year-It didn't personally inconvenience me, so I wasn't as-Yeah, you weren't listening.

I understand. I get it. Last year, they did Derek Rose night, which I went to, which was awesome. Jokem spoke, Derek spoke.

It was cool. That's it.

Then they did, I agree, Hank. Listen, I'm on your side. We're together. Ryan Storff is doing this-I'm echoing. To basically squeeze every last dollar out of Derrick Rose. They did, I think, five special Derrick Rose bobblehead nights this year, and then it culminates in the banner. They basically did a banner night for Derrick Rose last year without the banner. Then this year, they're doing a banner night with the banner.

Are there any more Derrick Rose nights?

Not that I am aware of.

Okay.

There's been about, I think the total number after this Saturday will be six. I love Derrick Rose, but again, it's just Reindsdorff just being Reindsdorff.

Would there be a Derrick Rose statue night?

I don't know if they'll do a statue, but yeah, that's on the table. If that happens, they'll probably have to do a few bobblehead nights before that. You warmed up for it.

Yeah.

Yeah, you got banered. You got banered.

You got Rose.

Did you get your tickets?

Yeah.

You're going to say how did it Coach Missoula? Yeah, of course. From your seats?

I got to text him, but last year- Why don't you just text him for tickets?

Don't they give a lot of tickets?

I don't know. I was thinking about that, but I don't want to be an inconvenience.

He's one of your best friends.

I know, but he's focused on the game. Last time, they lost right before they played. Remember, he was supposed to come in, and he was like, Fuck that, I'm locking in. But we did hang out after.

So you'll hang out with him this weekend?

Yeah. That is a good friend move. I think a normal friend of would text him, but a best friend knows better than to text him.

He texted me first being like, See you this week, and then maybe I respond with a request. But I feel like coming out of the woodwork being like, Hey, what's up? Can I get some tickets? I don't know.

You're really being a hero because there's no chance that he's going to find out that maybe you'd like tickets. How would he know that?

Yeah, no one's going to listen to this and be like, Oh, Hank, we heard you needed tickets. Can we get you tickets?

I don't. I'm good.

Right.

He shouldn't. He won't.

What about better tickets?

I got good ticket. They just cost way more than I expected.

Okay.

Good friend. But then you could sell those and take the Missoula. What if Missoula was like, Hey, I need you on the bench?

I would be on the bench. If he needs anything, I got. Are you on the wood? Not on the wood. I was not spending on the wood seeds.

What was the wood money?

Like nine grand.

Holy shit. That's expensive wood.

Yeah. I had a wood Connect. That's how I found out it was Derek Rosenite because I was like, Wood Connect. I was like, Are you using your tickets? And he was like, Yes, Derek Rosenite. Are you crazy? I was like, What do you mean, this Derek Rosenite?

It's Derek Rosenite. That's what he means. It's another one. The bobblehead ones were pretty... Listen, when you don't actually want to put a championship roster on the court, You got to find other ways to make money, like making the play in every single year and getting bounced or having Derek Rosenite, seven of them.

If you get a good player once, that's a meal ticket.

Okay, PFT?

I had a pretty clean week. Pretty good week for me. Nothing really wrong going in my financial or mental health life at all. Excited for football. I'm bummed out. Last weekend is my favorite sports weekend of the year. I have one favorite sports weekend of the year, and that was divisional round. That's when you get Saturday, Sunday, a lot of games.

Why would you limit yourself to just one?

That's my favorite weekend of the year. Because I like to- But I have seven of them, and that makes it so great.

You get so many favorite weekends.

That's fine in communism. But for me, I have a winner.

Yeah, try to get more. So not Wild Card Weekend?

No, Wild Card, I think, is second. What about March Madness? March Madness is third.

What about the first weekend of May when it's Kentucky Derby, NBA playouts, NHL play?

That's my favorite Saturday.

What about Thanksgiving, where you get all Thursday through Sunday?

That's my favorite holiday. Okay. It's a good battle.

Yeah. No, I'm just asking questions. Listen, that's fine.

And Feast Week, that's my favorite week. Oh, okay. Nice. Yeah. But that was my favorite weekend. It's the best sports weekend of the year. Kind of a bummer. What about the Masters? Oh, the Masters is just the Masters. That's my favorite tradition.

What's your favorite weekend, Hank?

July fourth.

You son of a bitch. Great sports weekend. It was a great sports weekend. You got the All-Star Game.

No, not even.

Wmba.

Free agency. Mba guy.

Yeah, big time. Yeah, it's been a pretty good week for me. I'm excited to see what this weekend has in store for us. It's going to be whatever happens. Great story lines coming out this weekend. Then my other fire fest is that I have become addicted to buying mascot costumes, and I got my most... I told Big Cat I got another one, but I didn't want to tell him what it was. I got him Bucky the Badger as just a gift. That's what boys do for each other. Then I said afterwards, Okay, I'm really done. Then Jacob came up to me, and Jacob from Cream Team was like, What about Albert the Alligator? It was like, Sold. Got it. That's such a great addition. Got it. I bought an Alligator mascot, too. I've been looking for blooper. I'd like to get a blooper, but I don't think they don't really make that because it's just weird and it's not a thing.

Yeah, I think you get on a list if you get a blooper.

You should, yeah. I will never financially recover from finding a website that will sell me mascot costumes. Yeah.

I like the Bucky the Badger. I'm excited that you got that.

I just don't know what we're going to do with all these mascots. Yeah.

I was nervous when Bucky the Badger showed up during the Yack. I was nervous someone had bought a Bucky the Badger day with Bucky the Badger. I was going to have to just...

Oh, Bucky, what's that?

Hey, let's get a picture. But then I realized, then it clicked to me. It's like, oh, yeah, PFT is addicted to buying mascots. This is awesome.

Yeah. We just have one around the office. I don't know what we're going to do with them. If anyone has a suggestion, That could be like a Mount Rushmore Punish where you have to just be full mascot for a week in the office. You know what? What they don't tell you about mascots.

You can't talk out of them. That's the thing. No.

I don't know if the costumes I'm buying are-Oh, I want one for D&D. Are so off-brand that they're bad costumes or if this is just how mascots operate. But you can't see inside those heads at all. No. I've got a tiny little window. It's just this narrow little slit that you can look through. It's a danger. I don't know how guys are out there doing flips and pushups and running around on the field. It feels like being a mascot is harder than you might expect. Yeah.

Sounds like you didn't respect mascots.

Maybe I didn't.

What's up, Max? You got to get enough so that we can play a mascot basketball game.

That's what I told them. Maskot.

Maskot basketball. That's 10 mascots. That's a lot of money.

You already got three?

You're almost halfway there. Four on four. Four on four would be fine.

I've had some recent-It's got to be five on five.

You can't do that. You got to get 10. Then we got to do a mascot football game against kids.

11 on 11. Oh, yeah, you just hit 11. Yeah. Yeah, that works.

Just truck-sticking children.

I think you got to get the Alligator. I would love to see an Uga.

Uga would be solid.

Uga is just a good classic.

I want to get the Philly fanatic and just beat the fuck out of it.

I have to get the Orange Man.

Yeah, the Orange, the tree. That's a classic. Stamford tree.

Yeah, that's a big one.

But yeah, it's a minor addiction. As far as addictions go, I think it's a pretty healthy one to have. But there have been some unexpected financial setbacks that I might be incurring in the next few days. I don't know if I'm going to put a whole... Fuck, I'm going to buy another one right now.

How much are they?

I don't want to talk about it.

You don't want to talk about it. I can afford it. Are they a PMF? I was going to say I can write this off, too.

It's a business expense. I was going to do something nice, but I don't know how nice I'm feeling.

You were going to let him use some of your-I'll buy one if Patriots went.

I'll get you a mascot. But I'm not committing to that because I don't know how much they are.

They're $40,000.

Sure, sit them, dude.

Yeah, you got this.

I'll get you Pat the Patriot.

It's $40,000. Just wipe it clean and you'll get that.

Yeah, if the Patriots went, I will accept a Pat the Patriot costume. Got to get a ceiling Beem, too. That thing is fucking sweet. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, wait, which one am I getting first?

I think get the Alligator.

Get the Alligator. Jacob. I already got that. Oh, okay. Yeah. Love that. I'll get maybe the orange.

Okay, my Fire The best is I think I have another kidney stone coming. I'm not sure. So watch out PFT.

Yeah, it's bad news for the entire podcast.

My stomach has hurt for the last two days. It might just be a tummy stinger, but I've also had a weird peeing. I thought it was actually going to work for our Barstool basketball team on Wednesday night, using that as motivation, letting the boys know, Hey, you're not winning one for each other. You're winning one for Coach who might be in the hospital. We still lost because we have not won a game, 0-6. But yeah, that would be my firefest, although I did get a taste for coaching.

I like coaching. I had an idea about this because I watched the game this morning. It was a close, close battle. I mean, you guys were right there.

My game plan worked.

Night and day compared to where the team was before. Correct. It was the correct game plan, the execution. I don't want to... You know what? I'll be the Terry Pigula in this situation. I don't know who hired Whiteboy Rick.

You played not to lose. I'm not going to make it.

Okay, go ahead. There's no shot clock.

You played not to lose, though.

The point of me saying to the guys-You could have won the game. But hold on. The point of me saying to the guys, Don't shoot, is we needed to get in the double bonus because we suck at shooting. Nicki Smokes just decided to take the game into his own hands. Ten seconds into the possession, shot the ball.

That is true.

That's a good game plan. Hey, we got to get fouled. We were one away from double bonus. We went to overtime. If we had a double bonus, we probably would have won the game. We'd had two shots at every single one of them. We can't shoot free throws. Hank, see, this is what Hank does. He just flies in. He's in the golf. He doesn't see me coaching the boys up, trying to get him. I the worst condition basketball team that couldn't dribble and couldn't shoot. What are you supposed to do with that?

Slow it down.

That's what we did.

Be the big men.

We slowed it down. When you have a lead late, you hold on to the ball with no shot clock.

That was also unfair to Whiteboy Rick. He played well, just mental errors. Nicki Smokes, it's ingrained in his body.

I had to bench him four different times.

The four-on-one was on all time. Yeah.

I had to bench him four different times during the game for turnovers and not listening.

So Big Cat, my favorite sports movie is Mighty Ducks. In Mighty Ducks, Gordon Bombay gets put in charge of this ragtag group of kids. What are the chances that Bob Huggins would want to come help out to go to the younger knots?

That'd be fun. Get the trip-in going.

I feel like that's your guy.

They have a lot in common.

I think that's your guy.

Yeah, that would be fun. That would be a lot of fun.

Maybe Huggy Bear.

I don't like Hank's criticism of the team. We could use Hank, a lefty shooter. Where was he?

You didn't ask me to play.

I did I asked you to play. When? I asked you to play last week. I said, Hey, do you want to come out for the practice and play?

I was getting my oven fixed. The guy banged me.

So you're lying. I asked you to play. I could have used you.

Yeah, I did miss a tryout. I would have shot threes, though.

I would have let you shoot threes.

Oh, okay.

There's no shooting threes had to be said because as a team, we shot 18% from three through the first five games of the season. So I said, If you shoot a three, you're coming out of the game. We shot 60% Last night. You guys are watching the Mikey Betts? What are you watching?

No, this is my favorite clip ever. It's the worst push off I've ever seen.

Oh, yeah. There were some calls. Listen, I got a taste of culture.

I also was laughing very hard.

You were rooting against us.

Oh, yeah. I mean, it's so much funnier. This is a bad guy. It's so much funnier.

Hank acts like I'm the troll on the podcast.

It's content. It's honestly content.

Wait, let me do a Hank in print. It's crazy how Hank acts like I'm the troll on the podcast.

Bad guy. Content would have been lifting me up and carrying me off the court as I go to the hospital for my kidney stone.

Those guys on that team that lost are practicing and trying so much harder now that they lost. There's reason to tune in. We're talking about it. It's like, Will this team ever win? Probably not, but we got to see this one out. I was laughing at... There was 18,000 people watching, and I was watching at home and watching the live chat, and people were being like, These fucking reps are blind. This This is bullshit. Getting really upset about the reps. It's like, These guys are probably getting paid $80.

They're a nice guy.

We brought the rep into the office. God, good guy. It's like this. These guys are going to have... People are going to hunt them down and be like, How could you make that foul call? That's not a foul. But it's like, Yeah, they're intramural refs. It's horrible basketball intramurals.

What do you expect? Hold on. Time out. Big time out. Huge time out. I need the full-time out Coach Kat here. You, of all people, are saying people got too heated in a game?

No, I'm saying I was laughing at how upset the chat was at the refs. Lack of like, They missed this, they missed that. It's like, it's in your refs.

But you would have gotten just as heated. Yes. Yeah. You get upset every time we do a competition.

I don't get mad, but the rest, it's like...

I was actually just buzzing you. You can take whatever you want from that.

I was just laughing. Hey, PFT, what's that buzzer from?

Oh, that's from when the Hank got mad during competition.

I'm competitive. No, I'm not. The players and you being passionate, I know that I'm laughing from a distance.

Between the white lines.

I know that I'm laughing from a distance because, again, you root against me when I play golf. You know it's funnier when I lose. You want me to lose because it's funnier afterman. The afterman is funny. That's a fact. I don't take that personally. For some reason, you are.

You've been taking me wanting you to lose personally this entire football season.

You're different. Also, if you were playing against a random person, I would be rooting for you. When you play against PFT, I'm rooting for PFT because PFT has just way more... He has better qualities as a human being than you.

Regardless, I know myself. I like to be casual and be I like to take it easy. Then once I start competing, I turn into a cycle player.

I need you out there. Are you considering to come out for the next team?

Yeah. It depends what day you play, but yeah. Now that football season is over, Wednesdays are a lot easier.

Okay. We have some When the season's over, I thought.

No, we're going to do a new season. We're also going to be doing this for softball.

No, we're not. No. You don't get to choose that.

We'll make another team. You're not going to play with us? I'll play, but like- You're banning the pugs? Yeah. No, I'm not a band of the pugs. I'm not a band of the pugs. I'm saying if we have two league and one of them is for content, you're not going to play?

I would play in that.

You think your wife's going to let you play two nights of softball?

Well, he would quit the pugs. She would quit the pugs. No, I wouldn't. I'd play all the late games.

We have Breaking Moose.

You have Breaking Moose?

The Tennessee Titans have hired Robert Salah to be their head coach. That's breaking? That's breaking. Just happened. He signed his five-year contract right now.

Oh, he signed the contract.

Yeah, it's official. It's officially official. Officially official. It's officially official. Officially official. I don't think that we... Did we talk about that?

We talked about it at length on Wednesday.

About Salah to the Titans, specifically? Correct. Specifically?

We put out a It's all good.

Put out a graphic for it. It was all good.

Oh, that's right. You said he was going to be like Vrabel.

Making moves.

Making moves. This should be good.

What do you got? Bo Nicks officially has a broken leg. Oh, no.

He's not playing at all. Oh, my God.

Making moves. Making moves. Making moves.

Mackenzie Gore traded from the National. Oh, no.

You didn't Get the bit, Max. Hank was doing it.

Yeah, I know. But then I thought about it. Then I thought about it. I was like, We should probably talk about it.

Then you just said obvious current breaking news.

That is a breaking news that we didn't talk about.

Yeah, the Nats fleeced the Rangers today. I know.

I told you that.

Have you seen the return that we got You know him? Crazy. Crazy. The Rangers got McKinsey Gore, great pitcher. We got Gavin Fine, Devin Fitzgerald, Alejandro Rosario, Abimelec Ortiz, and Yeremy Cabrera. I mean, a fleecing. A fleecing like I've never been fleeced before. I have no idea if any of these guys are good.

See how irreplaceable I am? These are some of the worst moves I've ever heard.

This is breaking news from Adam Schefter. People around Patent Manning believe he will retire, but as of now, he has not told the Broncos of any decision.

Oh, my God. That's crazy. Right before the AFC Championship Game? Right before the AFC Championship Game. Good thing they got steady. They got steady.

Oh, yeah, because we just found out Bo'Nicks is out.

Yeah. Wow, what a roller coaster that was.

All right, Zack, finish this off.

My favorite face is-Breaking moves.

There's a comet coming.

The dinosaurs are panicked as fuck right now. They don't know what to do.

They're saying this one could be the one.

The big one is what they're saying.

Oh, that's nothing. We'll be fine. Okay, go ahead, Zack.

Pretty good week this week. I got a quick one. It This is health-related. We were talking health stuff a little bit earlier in the week. I got really just plate baited, but I was trying to do the right thing and get some healthy meals in the house. I was searching online for a lot of these pre-made meals. You know how you get the packaged? What would they call that? Pre-packaged? Yeah. What's the word for it? Meal prep.

Meal prep.

Yeah, there you go.

Got you. Thank you so much for that, Max. I was so excited. I was on the website. I was browsing. I was looking at the calorie numbers and looking at the photos. These photos look good. I can get into this. Maybe I am a gym fitness health guy. They showed up to my apartment several hours late, so I was really anticipating eating. I was excited for these plates, and they just showed up incredibly wet. What do you mean they showed up wet? You open them up and they're just wet. All of them are wet.

It was a local Chicago spot.

It's just wet? Yeah, everything's wet. I don't really know how to explain it.

Did you eat your wet food?

I did, yeah, because I want to be a part of the team and I want to be a health guy. But I know this was a bad take, but they were wet.

That's not a bad take. That's just reality.

He's just describing Getting the moisture level on your food.

I was excited. I thought this was turning a corner. I was like, Oh, this is discipline. This is what fit men do who survive in life. They get meal prep. All the gym bros love talking about prep this, prep that.

Was it packed in It was like dry ice and it melted or what?

No, the ice pack that came was actually pretty cold still. Put in the freezer. I'm going to reuse that. That's a good pack.

Do we have any idea where the wet came from?

I think preparation. Did you look back when you I ordered this. Is there an option, check box for wet or dry?

I didn't check for a wet box. Maybe you're wrong of me for not assuming there could be that option.

There usually is. That's for everything. You If you ever knew anything on Amazon, you got to make sure you click dry.

Zack, is there any possibility at all that you accidentally ordered dog food?

No, these are all human plates. I'm telling you, they look so good on the side.

I just wanted to check because a lot of the dog food now, it looks like it's human food.

I was thinking Thinking about the plates at work the day of. I even think I placed a phone call following up, heading to get a text, a notification on tracking. I'm excited to dig in.

What did they say? Were they like, Oh, sir, don't worry, your wet food has arrived.

He's like, Yeah, man, what's going on? You need tracking? What state are you in? I was like, This state. He's like, All right, I'll check it out. It's going to be there by 3: 00. They showed up at 9: 30, soaking wet.

Are we talking the food itself was wet or the packaging?

No, outside dry, inside where you would take the fork to consume wet.

Wait, what food?

We're talking like chicken rice. We're talking like steak vegetables. Everything's wet. Yeah, wet. It was an aquatic plate.

Was there- Steak vegetables wet? Yeah. Like standing water?

It was just like- Or just glistening-ass moist food. Almost as if it was humid. You know you get French fries in the sour cream containers, you get the condensation? Not like that. It was, I don't know, my God. It was glazed in H2O.

Is there a chance that... I've never seen it. This is what fresh food looks like?

No, I've had some fresh plates.

Okay.

I mean, maybe 2026, fresh plate's different.

Can you take a picture of the wet? Or do you have a picture?

I can give you one for sure.

Do you have one now? I don't have one on me, no. Okay. I want to see how wet this food looks. I can do that for you. Is it covered in plastic right now?

Plastic lid. You pop the plastic lid. These may or may not be the plates, but do they not look delicious? If these were the plates, do they look My Delicious on the site?

What are we looking at here? Never mind.

My bad. Did you send it?

No.

Do they come frozen?

Yeah. No. It came unfroled, but with an ice pad.

You had I couldn't have checked the wet box.

I couldn't have checked the wet box.

You had to have, dude. Because people do eat that. I think in Europe, it's steak but wet.

If this is what it takes, then I'm out. I might be out.

Yeah. It's just wet.

Wet food. You got to go dry plates.

Did you think about drying them out?

I'm just going to eat them wet. I'm going to keep eating them just because I already got them. They're there.

They go in the microwave?

Yeah, 2 minutes, 30 seconds. What they say, we got to go like 2 minutes. 2: 30.

It was scorching. Well, yeah.

And on the website, they don't show up as wet.

I'm checking a site right now that is a similar, very similar site. Don't see a wet button in sight.

But I'm saying they don't They look wet. They don't appear wet. No, they look scrumptuous, PFT. Okay. Yeah, I mean, maybe you just send it back. Have you thought about calling them and being like, Hey?

Oh, I don't have that in my bag. No.

But you already called them once, right?

I called to follow up on tracking, yes, and It's a patient.

Just be like, Hey, is the food supposed to be wet?

I'm comfortable saying this in the safety to you guys. I would never let them know the product is wet. I would tell them I appreciate that very much. I wouldn't tell them.

I'm with you on that, Zack. I I can't do a follow-up call. No. It's just a killer. Okay, good show, boys. Football. We got football. Let's do lottery ball numbers. Today is The Lottery Ball segment is brought to you by Jack pocket, the number one app for ordering lottery tickets on your phone. We're numbers people on this show. Stats, scores, spreads. Right now, the only numbers that matter are the jackpots. Mega Millions and Powerball are getting bigger every week. With Jack pocket, you can pick your lucky numbers or use quick pick. Even better, new Jack pocket customers will get $5 in free lottery credits when you opt in and use code PMT2 at sign up. That's code PMT2 only on Jack pocket.

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Okay, numbers.

Seven.

Sixty.

Oh, for Super Bowl, 60? Mm-hmm.

Hundred.

That's a good call. Forty. That's a good call.

66.

22.

Eight.

Oh.

We had a tie.

I'll go 85.

Or 20. I'll stick with it.

Eighteen. Oh, did you almost say 18 there, Shane?

I said 13. I said 13.

Oh, Shane. Shane. Shane, congrats on McDaniels.

Thank you.

Bolt up. So Bolt.

Hey, Bolt up, Shane. Bolt up, Shane.

Offseason champs.

How do you feel about it that he's soft because he's scared of a couple of eggs in his house?

Wait, what?

Remember, I said he was soft because he didn't want to come to the Eagles because his eggs.

Oh, yeah, a couple of eggs. Or maybe he's a quarterback or something. Did you guys know that Justin Herbert and Jalen Hertz had the same amount of coordinators in the past five years? Wow. Yeah. One has three playoff losses and one has two Super Bowl appearances. It's a fun fact for the-What did the Chargers do to deserve this?

I don't understand. Why are we ganging up on the Chargers?

You existed. Yeah.

I guess so.

Yeah, that's really the answer. You existed and you sit next to me.

I existed with no success.

Correct. And that in itself is disgusting.

The small amount of success that you had made memes insanely jealous. What would that small amount be?

Just making the players. The first half against the Jags.

Getting Getting to the play-off. That first half against the Jags was fucking awesome.

Erotic.

What small success?

Getting to the play-off.

Yeah, Mark Sanchez has more play-off ones than Justin Herbert.

Okay. Yeah.

Wait, significantly more? Significant.

Yeah, and yet we're fucking me.

Well, actually, I mean, every person on the show's quarterback has more play off wins than Justin Herbert.

I appreciate this, guys. Very true. That's very true.

That's actually a fact.

How many-No, not memes because Katie Cook. Yeah. Payton Manning was the three. His first three. How's the last three months been for Sanchez?

Had more fight in him than Jane Daniels this season. Oh, that was good.

That was good, memes.

He's going to roast on us.

Love you guys. Happy birthday to whoever's birthday it is on January 23rd. Jesus, man.

No, my friend nick. What?

To Meams' friend, nick, Happy birthday, nick. It is your birthday. Wait. Also, happy birthday to Danny Woodhead. Happy birthday to Danny Woodhead. You're the man, Danny. Love you.