Transcript of Super Wild Card Weekend, Bears Comeback Over The Packers, Josh Allen Superman, Eagles Loss And Patriots/Rams Win + Who's Back Of The Week

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Hey, football guy, but Dino, AW Welcome to Part of My Take, presented by DraftKings.

The Crown is yours. Today is Monday, January 12th, and it's Super Wild Card Weekend. And we start on Saturday afternoon with Zack, who's in Carolina, pounding that drum.

Jack in Carolina.

Matthew Bevelec, Westafard, wasn't in the gray house up the road from the George Washington Slupteer house in Huckleberry State Park.

He was in the pocket dropping back before hitting Pukapuka, who decided to catch them all in the end zone for six points. Shortly after, I now pronounce you Chuba and Larry, gets all in zone curious, wondering which way to swing, I mean, which way to score, before ultimately deciding to run it in from one yard for a countdown. But wait, as the game clock continues to tick-tock, Bryce Hall-Yung Wiggledicks his way outside before tossing deep to Jalen Hertz-Coaker, who reminds us all that he didn't walk through the fire just to smell that smoke. Plenty two hot feet, 10 toes down in the end zone. Finally, Dave Matthews' Stafford band, passes up, pass down, pass All around. Touchdown pass to Kobe Partsing-Reckinson, who would never half-ass two things. He'd hole ass one thing. He'll get his whole entire ass in the end zone for six points. Los Angeles, 34, Carolina, 31.

Great job, Zack. We head to Chicago, where the bears welcomed the packers for round three. In the first half, Jordan, Courtney Love was the whole package, experiencing football nirvana and being the cobaine of the Chicago defense existence out of the shotgun. Cromio Dobbs shined, and Matthew, I've got a golden ticket, scored, making it seem like the bears were about to kick the Charlie bucket. But in the words of my dear colleague Lee Corso, Not so fast, my friend, because tick, tick, tick, tick, tick They play 60 minutes in a football game. The bears came out in the second half, looked up and saw the deficit, and pulled their best gas by saying, 18? Yeah, you're fucked. Call the ambulance, but not for me, as Caleb, last William's in testament, began to prepare the coffin for the Green Bay season. Colston, I'm like Thomas Jefferson before the Louisiana Purchase Because I Love Land, ripped the packer's defense in the second half, and it was DJ, Please, sir, may I have some more? With the go-ahead countdown as the bears complete the historic comeback and the Iceman delivers yet again. Speaking of ice, the postgame between Matt LaFleur and Ben Johnson was comblooded, and I'm starting to think these two teams don't like each other.

Bears, 31. Packers, 27. What? What? We go down to Duval, where the Jaguars attempt to win their ninth in a row, and the Pills are trying to get their first road playoff win since Hank stopped being dead.

The game started with a Trivassier Lawrence as he tried to get his receiver some cone jack and took a really gross shot, leading to a Love Shack. Thompson was a little bitty place where we get interceptions.

Love Shack, baby. It led to a field goal by Matt Prater boy, who said, See you later, boy. The kick is up.

It's good for sure. The Jaguars responded as Brian Thomas Jr. Soprano had all the makings of a varsity athlete for an early score. Meanwhile, Facial Tutan found a couple of glory holes and wasn't afraid to get his nose dirty while the Bonnie Blue Buffalo bills stuffed a bunch of dudes in the box to try to bottle up Travis 18 men. Josh Allen Gainsberg was howling in pain early, trying to beat the Jags, and he seemed the greatest minds of his generation, destroyed by madness and Patrick Mahomes.

Jacksonville fought back as Trevor kept going back to Old Faithful at Yosemite National, Parker, Washington, with the Bills going to be stopped as they added another score in interception, stealing the game.

The Boys and Teal looked over at Sean McCermant and said, It's not easy being green.

And no one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bill. Bounce 27, the Jaguars, 24. Now we head to Max in Philadelphia.

We head to Philadelphia where DeMarcus, Craig Robinson started off the game telling the Eagles, This is the end of your season by dominating the opening drive leading to a shutdown and an early lead. But the Eagles responded with Ws in the chat when Dallas Cotter dropped a nuke into the end zone to tie the game. But wait, do you smell it? That smell, that smelly smell. That smelly smell? That smelly smell? That smells smelly? Smelly, it misses an extra point, and San Francisco holds the lead. After another Goddard TD and a chance to extend, A. Jason Statham-Brown was not looking fast, but sure was furious with nick Seriani as he tried to fight him on the sideline after a big drop. The Eagles defense was able to keep it close for most of the game, in large part because of Quinyance Mitchell, who proved himself to be irreplaceable after another dominant game with two interceptions. But the big play that put the nail in the coffin for the Eagles was Jowan Greg Jennings putting the team on his back dough by throwing an absolute dot to McHaffery. Niners 23, Eagles 19.

Thanks, Max. We finish with Sunday Night Football in Foxborough and Henry Lockwood. Over to Gillette for a classic defensive battle.

Deion Russell-Henley had a perfect read on an early Drake Mayball to give the Chargers the ball on the 10, but they four and turned the ball over. Cameron Dicker was long and girthy and got the scoring starter with a ménage aîtoit.

Drake, 50 Shades of Gray, was bending over the Chargers D with his legs and his arms, but couldn't convert anything in the end zone, leaving Andy, Aurora, to Galalis to score the first six points for the Patriots.

Justin Sherbert was soft-serving, getting creamed all game by the Pat defense before Hunter Henry Lockwood told Shane and the Ball Club to kiss the rings, bitch, after scoring the game-winning out. Paths win, 16: 30.

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And then they stopped them on fourth and 3 on the 20-yard line. And then Bryce Young took them down the field, scored the rushing breakdown. And I was like, Oh, fuck. This is actually a game. The Panthers are not going to just go away like that.

No, they were lively. The Panthers fought hard. I know Canales said after the game, there's no such thing as moral victories. That is what a coach says when you just had a massive moral victory. Yes. And it was a moral victory for the Panthers. They're back. They kept pounding. Cam Newton came out there, beat the drum. I thought he was going to shatter it when he hit it. I think the only dude to shatter that drum was Mike Tolbert. Okay. He should be the full-time keep pounding drum guy because he's got the batspeed for it. But yeah, the Panthers, they played well in the second half. There was no quit. Bryce Young, he was pretty accurate for the most part. They were saying he should stop playing with fear. I actually think Bryce Young plays at his best when he's deeply fearful.

Just a little bit of fear?

He has to have fear because when he got to the NFL, you remember the thing he would do the most? He would be in the pocket and he'd feel a little bit of pressure, and they'd start to leave the pocket but casually, like he did in college. Then he learned, Oh, shit, these guys are huge. I'm small. They're probably going to hurt me. That's when he has a little bit of fear, and that's when he plays a little bit. I think he plays faster when he's scared somehow.

Yeah, watching it back, it felt like he started to use his legs more to unlock everything.

It was great. Then Coker has developed into an awesome wide receiver. He's a very good guy to have on the outside to team up with T-Mac or Ted. Yeah, the Panthers played really well in the second half. Then I thought the play of the game was actually made by Puka. Puka had two Two game-changing plays where he did not catch the ball. One was in the first half when he dropped a Surefire TD.

That was after they had made it 17, 14. They were like, Oh, shit. It's going to be... No, wait. The Rams could actually go down and score here. That was a wide open down the sideline seed that he dropped.

For maybe the best player in football, maybe the best receiver in football, to just drop that was crazy. Then for some reason, after he drops it, Puka just takes two steps, falls to the ground, doesn't even brace himself on the fall, and he falls directly onto his head. And then everybody was like, Is this guy banged up? Is he concussed right now? But then in the second half, I thought the play of the game was when he turned into a cornerback.

Matt Stafford broke it up in the end zone?

Matt Stafford had a terrible, terrible overthrow, and he was dealing with maybe a finger. People were speculating maybe he broke his finger.

Which finger did he break?

It looked like it was his right index finger. That's significant. Following through. And they were saying that's the last finger for his throwing style. That's the last finger that touches the football. That's the important one. It was a terrible pass that he made, threw it to the end zone, and then Puka turns into a defensive back, breaks up an interception, which probably won the game for the Rams. But yeah, the fourth quarter was crazy. Then the Rams got into a little bit of a rhythm on offense. They ended up finding Parkinson in the end zone.

That was an unbelievable throw and catch. That was the Matt Stafford because I know he was dicing him up in the middle the field. The stuff like that pass he missed to Devante Adams. I think it was maybe in the first half where Devante Adams was very open and he just over threw him. But it felt like he was middle of the field. He was just killing him. Side lines, it was not crisp. Then that pass to Kobe Parkinson was, you can't put it in a better spot, and then you can't make a better catch.

Yeah, it was pretty incredible. You're right about throwing to the outside. He was terrible to the outside, but the middle of the field is where all the space was, and they did a good job exploiting that. There was definitely a talent gap between these two teams. But I thought, yeah, this is a moral victory for the Panthers to keep it that close and to feel like they had a chance to win the game in the fourth quarter. The Panthers were the only playoff team that did not have a first or second team all pro selection on their squad. So credit to the Panthers. They thought that they were going to get the rain. There was no rain. No rain. Unfortunately for the Panthers, because that probably would have made things even more difficult on Matt Stafford. But yeah, big time moral victory. I say that in the playoff bracket of moral victories and effort, the Panthers move on to the second round.

Yeah, because no one gave him a shot in this game, and you were asking yourself, They're an 8-9 team going into the playoffs, and you're asking yourself, is Bryce Young the guy? I feel like he made throws and plays in this game in high leverage situations where you're like, this guy can be the guy. The Panthers, overall, the arrow is pointing up for them. Again, they were leading this game with two and a half minutes left. It was like, holy shit, this is actually going to happen. It just so happens that Matthew Stafford was like, Hey, I am still one of the best quarterbacks, and I'm going to lead us down the in the field, and he did it perfectly. It was unfortunate that when the Panthers got the ball back, because I think I tweeted at the time, too much time for Bryce Young, I don't think they gained a yard.

No, they didn't.

It was actually- I think he went 0 for 4.

Yeah.

There actually could have been way more time. It still would have been fine.

Yeah. The Bryce Young thing, Adam Schefter reported that they're going to give him the fifth-year option on his contract. Okay. I think that puts him firmly... I don't know that he's the guy, but for the Panthers, I think he's our guy. They're like, We got our guy. But it's not, We got the guy. There's a big difference between our guy and the guy. Our guy is better than, We're in quarterback purgatory, or, We're going back to the draft.

It's better than, We think we have our guy.

Yeah, we think we have our guy. I think they can confidently say, They have their guy.

Right. And you wonder what the contract would look like after his five years are up, if you could figure it out, that you could build the team. Yeah, the arrow is pointing up. Like I said, Coker and T-Mack. They have guys, and they're running game. But I think... So let's talk about the Rams real quick, because the Rams are... Everyone keeps saying they're the best team in the NFL because they had those two games against the Seahawks, and one of them, the one in Seattle, if you call a fumble, a backwards fumble, differently on a two-point conversion, they win that game. Are we sure that they're okay? Because they keep having these games where it's like, and maybe this is just their MO, and Their defense is not that great. The special teams, like that block punt, can't have that. But they still have Matthew Stafford and Pukun Naku and Devante Adams to bail them out and Kyren Williams. But it's weird because if you're a Rams fan, you're probably not feeling super confident after a playoff win, just in the fact that the Rams are definitely in that tier of Super Bowl or bust.

It's grading it on that scale. I'm not saying the Rams are bad. I'm just saying, can they win the Super Bowl?

Yeah, the Rams, they did make what felt like a panic move after that game. They fired their special teams coordinator. They just did? Yeah, they just- That's crazy. No, not like right now. Oh, after the Seahawks game. Mcvay did that.

I was going to say that would be crazy if they did it. I forgot they did that. That would be nuts, firing in the playoff.

Yeah, in terms of blowing it up, that would be the biggest blow it up of all time for a guy named McVay. I'm looking at the Rams schedule for the last couple of months here. Their defense was great at the start of the year. They were really, really good. Then starting with that Panthers game, things fell off the rails a little bit. They gave up 31 to the Panthers, 34 to the lions, 37 to the Seahawks, 27 to the Falcons, 20 to the Cardinals. Their defense is different now. It's not dominant anymore.

Well, I think if you're a Rams fan, you thought Quentin Lake... It can go with where Quentin Lake got injured because he got injured after the first Rams game, and he's very important to their secondary and everything they do. Then he came back for this game. So you're like, Okay, this is going to change anything. One of our best players playing safety, clean things up. But again, it also was the Panthers did have some short fields. It's crazy. I mean, it was a crazy game where I feel like the Panthers were right there, and it was almost just the most shocking start to Super Wild Card weekend.

I thought they were going to keep it competitive. I didn't think that they were going to be in a place where it felt for a while like the Panthers were going to win this football game.

Yeah, it really did. I didn't know, by the way, that Cam Newton and the Panthers had a big falling out. Oh, yeah. I think I heard rumblings of it, but I didn't know how severe it was until he was banging the drum and on the broadcast, they were on the broadcast. They were just like, Yeah, it's crazy. He's here. This is awesome. He's here.

I think at some point-Was it when they brought him back? The ownership made a choice between him and Ron Rivera. I think they went heavy on Ron.

But remember, they brought him back after he played for the Patriots? Because remember, he won that one game, and then I think that ended poorly. That's how it ended poorly?

Yeah.

Because usually, when a team brings that guy back, you're like, Okay, well, at least this will end correctly because they brought him even though he was cooked.

But they're saying that now this opens the door for him to get inducted into the Ring of Honor. Which, Cam Newton, if you're the Panthers and you don't have Cam Newton in the Ring of Honor, the entire Ring of Honor is illegitimate.

Yeah. He has to be the number one guy in the Ring of Honor.

Yes. I saw the Rams. They posted on X, the Everything Happens, All Happening on X, the meme of the Lion King, where they actually threw the Panther off Pride Rock. Because remember the fan fiction going into it? Yes. Yes. Yeah, so they murdered the Panther. Oh, they did? Yeah. Got trampled by wild abuse.

Devante Adams looks like he's okay.

I think so. Yeah.

Which obviously is very important.

I'd be more concerned with Matt Stafford's finger. They said that it's not broken, but he did not look like himself for the most part in the second half.

So did we get an update on the finger?

I saw one tweet that said that they didn't think it was broken.

Okay, so then it's not broken.

It might not be broken.

He was making some bad throws, though, in the second half. Over the middle, he made good ones. In the pass at the end was one of the best throws of the game. But he had some crazy over and under throws where it's like, something's got to be wrong with his finger.

Yeah. He said Devante Adams was asked after the game what he said to the fellows before the last drive. He said, Let's go snatch these guys' hearts. That's probably as mean as Matthew Stafford can get. He doesn't seem like a mean guy.

I like that. Yeah. Golden Tate gave a little bit of a glimpse into Matt Stafford Stafford's psyche. He said, One time, Stafford messed up a finger on his throwing hand. I checked in on him. Like, You good? He said, Bro, I'm straight. I got nine other fingers. He's different. So he's got nine other fingers. Actually, we need Jerry, Jerry O'Kunal. Listen to Kelly Stafford's podcast this week. See if she says anything about Matt's fingers. How they're doing.

Well, Jerry's in South Africa.

South Africa, sir.

Oh, wait. What did he say that was for air?

Oh, yeah. He said- He gave us a for air, not for air type of thing. It was every woman here is hot. Yeah.

Jerry text... Where is it? The women are insanely hot, period. All caps, for, period, air, period. So he wanted us to say that. South Africa.

Per wrap sheet, X-rays were negative on Matt Stafford's finger.

I can't wait till Scheffler comes out and says they were positive.

Yeah. After delivering an MVP-like performance. Wow. They just threw that in there.

I mean, the MVP voting is done.

It It is done. It was funny that the lines were changing, which makes no sense.

They were? Yeah. By the way, we're taping this before the start of the Bill's Jag game. That's why you'll see when we go throughout the course of the show, moods might change.

I was ready getting some not my MVP stuff loaded as that second half was going, and it felt like the Panthers were going to win, but that throw at the end was an all-time throw and catch.

All-time throw. Hank, you're mortal enemy, the guy that you say writes the most disgusting fake fan fiction in the NFL, Mike Florio. He gave Drake May the MVP. Love that. Listen, Florio can... You got Florio on one side.

A broken clock is right twice a day.

You got Florio on one side, then you got Tom braided on the other. Which one you're going to go with?

Oh, no.

I'm not worried about the MVP. I'm worried about the playoffs. You boxed it. As this game is already over.

Yeah, people are going to be very confused when they see this. But again, I actually like that we're doing this because we could get two different Maxes and You literally just said I had tweets loaded saying that not my MVP, but you're not worried about the MVP. Oh, no. This is the MVP stats all over again.

Yeah, I'm not worried about it, but I'm still at a tweet. Yeah, that's true.

Good point. He didn't say he was worried. Sounds like a guy who's not worried, actually. He's loose.

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Pears 31, Packers 27. I was there. Memes and Zack were with me. I don't really know where to start because I'm still in shock. I guess I'll start with... I love Caleb Williams. It was insane. It was insane. I don't think this Bear's team this season has proven to us that they're never dead. But they also have pushed the limit into how bad they can look at times to then still come back and still be alive. Because that first half was as bad as you can look on a football field, especially Especially defensively, where it was like, how is this possible? I know our defense is not good, but every single packer was open, every single play. And then the second half starts. And usually, that's when the bears will start This team, this iteration of this team will start to put the pedal to the metal. And it still took a while because it was like field goal, field goal, that fourth and one interception. So they kept on dying but never being dead. And it was just an All-time, all-time. 25 points in the fourth quarter. Caleb Williams' throw to Roma Dunzé is a throw that I've already watched a thousand times.

I will watch it probably 10,000 more times. He didn't have either foot on the ground on a fourth and eight with five and a half minutes left, where if he doesn't complete that, the game is over. The game is over. I'm sure I'll just brain dump a bunch of stuff as we keep talking about it because I'll forget a bunch of stuff. But it was an all-time moment. It was an all-time game. We floated out of the stadium. I mean, memes. How many times did I say we're not dead in the second half? I must have said it 150 times. Probably, yeah, no, a thousand times. I probably only believed it Five times. I was doing the trying to act tough big boy thing where it was like, We're not dead. We're not dead. But they're not. They're never dead. Ben Johnson also, the first half, he had a really bad game. That That going forward on fourth and 2 on the 30-yard line when it's already a 14-3 game reeked of desperation, which partially was true because the defense couldn't get a stop. But that was a head scratcher. But something about this team, they go into halftime.

Dennis Allen, whatever he did to get this team, this defense, to make stops. Because that was the other thing. They didn't turn the ball over, which is a key to victory for the bears. They forced three fumbles, didn't recover any of them.

Yeah, dead, insanely bad turnover luck. The one where... Was it Christian Watson jumping in the in-zone? Yeah. And he fumbled the ball through. Listen, that's why he played down to the one-inch line. That was a great play by the defense to force that fumble on a broken coverage. When that ball trickled through the end zone in the gambling cave, I was sitting behind Chief, White Sox Dave, and Mikey Betts. For pretty much the entire fourth quarter, I didn't really see much of the game because every play, they would just jump out of their seats because something crazy was happening. But when that ball started going through the end zone, that felt like that was a momentum-changing play, and then they recover it in the end zone. Can't recover an advanced fumble with the ball still at the one-yard line, whatever.

And they went to a fourth down on that, fourth and goal on the one, and That was when I was like, I think I said, I think we had the clip where I said, The packers are just toying with us because they ran three terrible goal line plays, and they're like, You know what? We'll just do the play where the guy's wide open. Yeah.

You got to work on fumble recovery because the packers had at least two fumbles.

Oh, the big man fumble was the most fumbled that's ever fumbled because we were sitting there. It was right in front of us, and he was fumbling for five full seconds. He was fumbling before he had fumbled, we already all knew that he was about to fumble. And then we kick the ball, and it goes out of bounds. And yeah, you can't say we didn't get breaks because McManus was dog shit. He saved the game for the bears. He missed a kick to end the half after he had made it and the timeout was called. He missed a kick, or he missed an extra point, then he missed the kick to go up six.

He was terrible. He said he's embarrassed. He said that's the most embarrassed he's ever been on the football field. He should be embarrassed. That was a bad job. The extra point was just a terrible kick, just lined up completely incorrectly on that one.

He just kept on giving us life because that was an extra point to go up 12 instead of 11.

So the bears, obviously, this was like their Mona Lisa in terms of comebacks and in terms of just completely flipping the switch. There is a lot of room for criticism for Ben Johnson, especially for that first half.

Yeah, no, he didn't have his best game.

Because what he's done in his last two playoff games, he gets very cute with it. Sometimes it's okay to just run the football. You've got a good offensive line. You've got two good running backs. It's okay if they stop you for a one-yard gain, it's okay to try to run the football normally again instead of putting DJ Moore in the backfield having three tight ends do some mesh concept. He gets itchy. It's like the older he gets, he tries to get more cute with it.

Yeah, the fourth and one in the third quarter was just run the ball. That was the interception. I mean, Caleb's two interceptions were both on fourth down. The first one was basically a pun. I cannot believe the packers caught that.

That was a great intercept.

That was an insane that he didn't just knock it down. But as for Caleb Williams, it almost is so perfect that he finished this game exactly 50% completion percentage because that's basically been the whole conversation this year is like, he has these wow moments. He's incredible, but he can't do it consistently, and he can't take the easy ones, and his completion percentage sucks and all that. It doesn't matter with Caleb Williams. This guy has something about him that I think the whole team feeds off. It was just like he was getting smashed, play after play. He rolled his ankle. Every single... He's just next play. The next play is the biggest play. And he could play a dog shit half, and it doesn't matter to him. He just will come up with the big moments in time and time again. And it's special to watch. I think it's just a special quality that's partly magic, partly, obviously, This is a skill that I think everyone feeds off of and gives. The whole stadium was... I mean, you could just feel it in the third quarter where it was everyone doing the math. All right, two possession game.

And it just started to build and build and build until it got to this crazy... The stadium's rocking and everyone's going nuts. And he's got the packers on the ropes, and it's special. I don't really know what else to say. I fucking love rooting for the guy. It's such a joy. And he's so, so special. And it was an awesome, awesome night.

Yeah. So the fourth downplay by Caleb, that throw, you know who that looked like, right? Yeah. Rodgers. That looked like Aaron Rodgers. That was an Aaron Rodgers' play.

Listen, knee-jerk reactions, obviously, can sometimes blow up in your face. But I do believe this. I think that's a rivalry-like shifting type of win, where the way the bears came back, the fact that it was two and two in the last four games, the fact that they split this year and the DJ more... The Caleb interception in Green Bay than the DJ more a countdown in Chicago, to have it be round three, to have the packers look like it was going to be same old story, the packers own the bears. To then have Caleb Williams do that type of stuff and be that special, that feels like it has shifted. And it's like the packers know that this is not the same old bears. This is not whatever quarterback you want to throw out there. Caleb has something like Rodgers that's different.

Yeah. I got a question about DJ Moore for you. Yeah. Does he get hurt on every play?

He does. He's banged up. By the way, so Ben Johnson, bad game? Yeah. One of the best play calls ever for that DJ Moore breakdown, where they had shown that Luther Burden screen pass earlier in the game, and the packers bit on that so hard.

They got the exact result that they wanted. The second cornerback just saw the little stutter in the backfield by Burden, and he just took two steps forward, and then Moore was gone. That was an awesome play. I also thought that when Ben Johnson in the second half, it might have been on the two-point conversion or it was around the goal line, but he put in the three-tit-in set with Smythe. And then split them all out wide. That's a dangerous formation that the bearers should go back to more often because it feels like that's very hard to stop.

Okay, so can I give some shoutouts to just some things that I noticed that needed shoutouts? Montez Sweat, it won't show up in terms of stats, but the bears have desperately needed a pass rush for this entire season, and he did come up big harassing Jordan Love and getting in his face. We had a couple of intentional groundings. I also don't know why the pack... We We can talk about the packers in a minute and what LaFleur and all that stuff. I don't know why they were in shotgun for the entire second half. They were under center for the entire first half, and they diced us. Then they went into shotgun, and it was a completely different game. Colston Lovelen, again, knee jerks could look stupid. Colston Lovelen has the potential to be one of the best tight ends in the NFL. He is so good, and he is such a matchup problem. It was basically- He was his go-to. Yeah, it was basically, We need a play, the Lovedlin button. That was it. Over and over and over. It was crazy watching him. Again, we had incredible seats. Shout out game time. We were sitting 50-yard line right behind the camera well.

We had no one in front of us, so we We had the cameras, the actual cameras that were doing the broadcast. We're basically watching in all 22. And Colson Lovedlin, there wasn't a packer that could guard him. It was crazy watching him. Deandre Swift, he He's been maligned at sometimes. He's had an incredible season. Going into this season, I think there was a lot of like, Well, Ben Johnson doesn't have his running back yet, but we'll use DeAndre Swift. Deandre Swift had three plays that stuck out. One was the On second and 10, I want to say it was... I can't remember the exact score, but it was second and 10 with five minutes left. He catches that screen pass and has to reverse field. And He was dead to rights. Caleb actually led block for him. He catch that screen pass, reverses field, makes it all the way to the... He gets a seven-yard gain out of it, makes it third and three. Then is third and three on the goal line, you're able to actually run the ball. He then runs in the countdown. If he gets taken down right there on second and 10 on the goal line, we're fucked there because now you have it's third and 10.

Everything changes. That was an incredible play. Then he also had that play where he got 20 yards on the last drive, the DJ more breakdown drive, where he got that ball on the sideline, and he got 20 yards to get us into field goal range, where we could then take the shot. He was awesome. Ozie Trapillo, who, terrible. He got hurt. I think he tore his patellar, which that's a terrible, terrible injury. I don't know if you guys noticed. I don't know if they had it on the broadcast. He was able to get off the field and not burn a time out because I think it was in the zone where you had to burn a time out for an injured player, a 10-second runoff or a time out. He hopped off the field with a torn patellar.

That's pretty crazy.

It was insane. It was one leg. So he's going to be out, which sucks because he's obviously played very well. Theo Bennett is going to have to step up and maybe Brax Jones. But that was just an underrated, how do you do that? Because then the packers had a 10-second run off on their last drive.

So, yeah, they had that injury that ended up costing them big. That took it from 32 seconds to 22 seconds, which was It was massive in that one part of the game. Also, the packers getting a delay of game out of a timeout- I know. Was crazy by the floor. Yeah. That is crazy. Who is the offensive lineman that ran that route at wide receiver? For? For the bears.

I don't know.

When they split them out wide. Was that a backup?

It is always tough being at the game because you get one quick replay and that's it.

That was an incredible route that he ran.

I saw the meme showing me him chugging down the field.

I thought he was pretty good.

It might have been Theo Benedict.

Okay, Theo Benedict? Yeah. Listen, Caleb Williams, you had a great game. Super impressive comeback. It was Theo Benedict. Super impressive comeback. You got to air that fucking ball out to Theo Benedict. That dude ran a great route down the seam. You got to pass him that ball. Come on, Caleb. Don't be a coward.

Yeah. It was a special night I mean, Memes and Zack, do you guys want to fill in anything? You were there for the whole time. They're talking to each other. Do you guys have any notes from the game?

First half was terrifyingly all packers. Looked like we're going to have a tough evening.

I don't know.

What do you guys think that packers half time looked like because they just came out a completely different team and just got absolutely walked.

Yeah. Well, the packers, if you look at it, I do think the LaFleur discussion becomes very real now because he's got a year left on his contract. You either have to sign him. I think, weirdly, if he had two years left, he wouldn't be fired, if that makes sense. But because he has one year, you have to make the decision, and the packers are known like, Hey, we're not going into a lame duck season. He coaches different with a lead. That's just a fact. You saw it. They had the chance to kill us so many times, and they didn't do it. If they had just gone, it's as simple as the start of the second quarter, if they go on a five-minute drive that gets them three points.

What was the difference in yardages in the first half? Because I know that the bears had 333 yards in the second half, right? The first half, the offense looked okay for the bears. They kept sputtering out once they got around the 30-yard line, the 20-yard line. But then in the second half, they finished all those drives. The packers went three and out three times. Then the delay of game, obviously, was really bad. Then more clock management stuff with taking the time out on defense. There were a lot of questionable decisions by Matt LaFleur in this game.

Yeah, he did bad clock management. I actually thought Ben Johnson, again, as bad as the first half was, he had very good clock management, calling that time out with whatever it was, three minutes left. He burned two timeouts before the two-minute warning and gave us a shot. But yeah, the packers burned a timeout with 2: 07 left on defense, and that was crazy.

That was insane. Yeah, there's a lot of things that you can point out about the job LaFleur did in this game. Then the postgame handshake. I thought it was tied 1-1 on the season between Johnson and LaFleur. Ben Johnson just ripped past him. Just the sprint by handshake of all sprint by handshakes. Embarrassing for LaFleur, who was standing there waiting upright.

He thought maybe like, Oh, yeah, listen, we had our shit, but now the season's over.

He was hoping for a little embrace like, Hey, game respect game, iron sharpens iron. Ben Johnson was just like, Fuck you. See you. It was a great handshake by Ben Johnson.

And saying, Fuck the packers in the locker room after. I love that. And saying, We heard a lot of noise. And I saw some packers fans being like, What are they talking about noise? There was a little bit of noise. They were talking about the hit on Jordan Love and how it was like, We're going to get revenge for it. Jeff Hathley said to the media Scrum, It's not goodbye. I'm going to see you guys next week when we win. Christian Watson, I believe, said he wanted the bears. So there was enough. And I'm not saying that the packers got out of line with their statements, but it's pro-sports. You find whatever motivation you find. You make bulletin board material out of anything.

Did you think they had any saved bulletin board stuff for halftime? Maybe. Because it felt like maybe they needed... Whatever you told them at halftime, you should have told them that before the game. I saw one wild stat about this.

Hank, did you see the story that in the preseason... I think that was the seventh time they've had a comeback like this, under two minutes, losing the game, and then they win the They are also... Go ahead. You'd say it's that because it might be it.

We're about to say the exact same thing. Yeah, go ahead. They got two players that were part of the 28 to 3 game on the bears. They got Grady Jarrett, he was on the Falcons, and they have Joe Tuny, who was on the Patriots. They showed that game, and they had both players stand up in front of the team and talk about it-In the preseason. In the preseason, which... Shout out Grady Jarrett.

That's your Grady Jarrett.

Shout out Grady Jarrett for doing that.

Well, you know what? I'll say this because Grady Jarrett has maybe not been the best signing. We could talk about the offseason later, the defense is... A lot of money has been invested in the defense. It's not very good. It's one of those... When Dexter Fowler... Or not Dexter Fowler. Fuck. Now I'm forgetting his name. The guy who was on the card, why can't I remember his name? Jason Hayward. Jason Hayward signed a big deal with the Cubs, was not producing what we thought he'd produce. But he was part of the speech during during the rain delay in game seven. It's like, you know what? He's worth every penny. Grady Jarrett might have been worth every penny for whatever the fuck he said in this preseason meeting.

If Grady Jarrett was a perennial Pro bowler, if he had been one of the best players on the bears, do you think he would have said, No, fuck that. I don't want to get up in front of the team and talk about this, but because he hasn't been that good, he's like, I got to earn my contract somehow. I'm going to give the Ted talk to end all Ted talks about blowing a 28-3 lead in the Super Bowl.

Remember last year in the gambling cave when Steven Che asked Gruden about a really bad loss, and Gruden's like, I don't know, Steven, why don't you tell me the fucking worst day of your life, too? It's like, that's pretty much what they asked Grady Jarrett to do.

Good team guy. Good teammate. He might be runner up for teammate of the year.

Joe Thuney, also all-time winner. Yeah.

He's only not won the division one year in his entire career. He's played on the Patriots Chiefs and now bears the others. So the stat off of that The bears are three and three this season when down 10 points or more under five minutes. So under five minutes, down 10 points or more, they're three and three. The rest of the NFL is a combined three and 158. It's insane. That's crazy. They just never die.

So how many wins against the packers does Caleb have now? Three? Three. Where does that stack up?

I think it's- He has to be number one. I think he is. I think Cutler had two. And Mitch might have had one.

Since This isn't an all-time stat. No, I'm saying recently. Since the turn of the century, I would expect that he's probably number one.

Oh, yeah. He's got to be. We'll see. Rex? Yeah, maybe. But it's not a lot.

Let's see.

That's the thing is they've just been... I mean, think about Aaron Rodgers, what? 21 and 4 or something against the bears. It's got to be either the lead or... Yeah, it's got to be the lead. It's pretty insane. That's He's just special guy. He's fucking... Everything about this team makes no sense, and it's such an insane roller coaster every single game, and I don't want to get off.

Okay, here's some stats. Caleb Williams is responsible for 50% of the Bear's wins over the packers in the last 15 years. Yeah.

It's probably Jay and Mitch combined.

He's the first Bear's quarterback with two wins against the packers in a season since Jim Harbaugh did it in 1981. Yeah.

Ben Johnson, remember, in his press conference, said, I'm looking forward to beating them twice a year. Did it. He did come through in that.

Mission accomplished. Mission accomplished. I don't know if you picked up on this watching at the game, but one thing that I've enjoyed about the NFL playoff so far is the dedicated concierge referee that hangs out next to the coaches. They give them their own ref to yell at.

Yeah, there's an extended crew. There's seven refs on the field.

There's two guys that are responsible for just the balls, and then There's one that is just glued to the hip of the coach. He's got to take the most abuse of all time. He's just there to get yelled at. Also a personal timeout referee. So the coaches don't have to go sprinting up and down the sidelines. But to your point about Lafleur, it does feel like this might be the end of the road for Matt in Green Bay. I think Matt LaFleur is a great coach.

I think he'll get hired somewhere else. I think he's a great coach. I think he has to do something like go on a darkness retreat and figure out playing with the lead.

Yeah, maybe.

That's really it because I do think he's a very good coach, but the playing with the lead thing is a real thing that has been a bugaboo for the packers.

That's something that I don't know. I don't know how coaches get improvement in that area. Because it's like, who do you go to to learn more about how to keep a lead that feels like it's first-world problems? It's like, Oh, poor me. I can't manage a 10-point lead. There's a shitload of coaches out there that are like, Fuck you, dude. I wish we could have 10-point leads.

But you I know you really should never lose a game up 21-3 and the ball to start the second half.

You shouldn't. Especially no turnovers. Right.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. Jordan Love had four touch downs, no turnovers, right? Yeah. It's crazy.

Yeah. Do you feel like if they do fire Lafleur, you feel like you killed this version of the packers?

Caleb did. I'm not going to take credit for it. I do have to say, and we can end on this, the whole experience It's a meme, Zack, you guys can back this up. I was saying it, when we have the easiest job in the world, I have immense gratitude for the job we have. I know that no one looks at it and is like, Man, those guys have a tough life because we don't. But when you just are in these walls, there's a lot of cynicism online. There's a lot of hate, whatever there may be. Going out and seeing the people is the best feeling ever because the way people embraced us. We went to a tailgate. I was going up to meet with an AWL, shout out Andy, who invited us to his tailgate. I was going to meet him. He was like, Yeah, stop by. We got one foot into the tailgate lot, and the first tailgate was like, You guys have to come and drink with us. It was just everyone asking for pictures and everyone just being the coolest. It's just such a great reminder how big the world is and how awesome people are.

It's like stepping out from online. It's just such a nice feeling. It is. People were just It was so awesome to us and embracing me. It was great driving home and just seeing the city on fire and just the love for the city and the love for the bear. It was awesome. It's a night walking down the concourses, everyone floating out of the stadium, pug, screaming, all of it. It was just really, really special. It's a night I'll never, ever forget. It's just so cool. I love this city so much. Just seeing everyone just so happy was It was really, really awesome. Also, shout out the guy at the tailgate, the first tailgate. I didn't catch his name. Probably one of the most attractive guys I've ever seen. Would you guys back that up?

Yeah, that was a hot dude.

He looked like he was an Abercrombie Fitch model. He was married, so we don't have a shot with him. He knows who we're talking about, but it was a... I don't want to say breathtaking, but it was like... If you close your eyes and you think of a dude from a Like a private school movie, he was that good looking.

Oh, was it J. B. Pritzker?

No, it was not J. B. Pritzker.

I was talking to Whiteboy Rick. He's one of our employees here at Barcell Sports. He does social. He's a big Indiana Hoosiers fan and a big A Chicago Bear's fan, and I was asking before the game, and I thought about it right after the game ended, that if you are a diehard Indiana Hoosiers football fan and a Chicago Bear's fan, you probably actually have thought to yourself, I think I'm dead, and I think this is heaven. That's cool, but also maybe I'm a little bit sad that I might be dead. I'm not sure if I'm dead or not yet. I just like to say, Mike, you're out there listening right now. Mike, the diehard Hoosier's fan and Bear's fan, you are dead, and you are getting mentioned on part of my take to acknowledge the fact that you're dead and snap you into realizing, Hey, welcome to heaven. It's pretty good. So enjoy it. Look around. Have fun. Enjoy yourself.

Is this heaven or just not Flix.

Yeah, Mike.

I have actually-I really hope that there's one guy named me. One of my best friends is that, is an Indiana Bear's fan, and it's just every single-It's the best weekend ever for that guy. It's the best weekend ever. Very different teams. One team leaves zero doubt. The other team, you just doubt the whole time, but you know you shouldn't doubt because of what they've proven.

Well, one team cheats and the other team does it through hard work and dedication and preparation.

We'll get to that. We'll talk about that game. But yeah, it was a night I'll never forget. I really appreciate everyone who showed love. It was also one of the cool moments was, so Saturday, during the day, I was just trying to kill time. I took my kids out. We did a bunch of stuff. And in the car, I was telling them, I'm going to the bears game tonight. And they're in that zone of like, they don't really watch football, but they're happy when I'm happy thing. So they ask about the bears all the time and they want to know. I had to break the He used to my son that if the bears lose, the season's over. He's like, What do you mean? I was like, Well, it's the playoff. So if we lose, it's done. And then this morning, waking up and telling them that the bears won, and they were super pumped. It was like, This is fucking sick.

Has there been any confusion in your family about the fact that now when you win, you're happy, as opposed to Seasons Pass, when you tried to teach them about taking? Yeah, the tanking. It's like, When we lose, that's actually good.

This is why Kyle Long, shout out Kyle Long, the night he stayed at my house, and he was We can't be teaching tanking in this house.

Yeah.

He was like, You're right, we can't.

They've understood that winning is good now.

Yeah, they're very pumped. They're very, very excited. I don't think if the bear's lost, I don't know if they would actually be upset, but the happiness is all I care about. I think it would gloss right over them. So incredible night.

Hank, do you have any recommendations for Big Cat or pointers for how to handle success?

The ride goes.

No, I got to keep it rolling.

They never die. Team of Destiny. Just never die. I bet them plus 470. It probably got up to plus 1,000. I don't even know. But I was like, I have to show respect.

I think the highest I saw was 8 to 1.

Yeah.

Do you want the Eagles or Rams?

Oh, Max is saying I got to see this X-ray.

I want the Eagles for you.

I got to see this X-ray with Stafford. Stafford is not playing. I got to see this X-ray. I'm fine with taking the easiest route possible. It It doesn't really matter because whoever the bears play next, they're going to be down and look really, really bad, and then we're just going to have to start playing. We're going to just get to that point. Zack, can you tell... Zack was two steps away from Freddie Gibbs and Common last night. That was pretty cool.

Yeah, it was pretty awesome. Freddie Gibbs, Common. Spike Lee. Everybody's hanging out at the field before the game.

Yeah, we got field passes before the game. We were down there. There's a picture there of me. I really don't know what happened in the moment, but essentially trying to steal Pete Croe-Armstrong, I would say, is the best way.

Did you see that? Yeah, you scooped him.

Yeah, I don't know what was going on with that. I was just so excited to see him. But yeah, it was very cool down on the field before the game. It started snowing. It was like a snow globe there. It was a magical night.

Yeah, the snow before the game was awesome. A thought just occurred to me. If you're the Arizona Cardinals, why not hire Matt Lafleur if he gets fired? I think he will. Then you bring in Malik Willis.

Dude, listen, our good friend Tom Fernalee did text me asking if I wanted to help with the narrative, but does Malik Willis win that game last night?

There's something about- Does Malik Willis get a couple first downs in the second half when you need it with your feet and keep the clock moving? There's something about Malik.

Just something interesting to ask.

I mean, yeah, Love did have four touch downs, no turnovers.

But maybe they should have put in Malik in the second half.

The closer. No, but if I'm the cardinalist, I would think about doing that.

Yeah.

They seem to be a pretty good combo. Yeah.

So Memes and Zack, you guys have anything else from the game? Appreciate you guys coming. We did a Good job of bundling up. For something happened in the second half, I don't know if it was the wind or anything, but I could not feel my entire lower half for the entire second half. It was cold. I lost feeling in my hands in the first half, but it It did feel like some dark energy that the bears had has been lifted because it was a perfect scenario where the bears came all the way back. Then it was essentially the Aaron Rodgers meme where it was like, they're all celebrating with two minutes left on the block.

I thought you guys were dead.

Dead. In my head, I was thinking about what I would say on this show being like, Hey, I was wrong. I said it was a 50-50 game. We got our asses kicked. We're still so far Far away. This sucks. Everything sucks. Didn't happen.

I just want to say, for the record, before the Eagles Niners game, I want the Eagles Spheres matchup. I would like very much to see the Eagles bears matchup. I want to see play a big game, Max.

Listen, Again, whoever the bears play, we're going to look bad to start, and then we're going to have to figure it out. Then it's just a question of, can we figure it out? If we figure it out, it's going to be awesome. The ride will keep going. What are you going to say, Zack?

Finish this off. All the bears fans around us were in a position to where it They had all the right to be down in the dumps. Fuck this, it's over. We lost. Nobody was in that. Not really a lot of guys in the headspace. Everyone was like, Oh, this is where we turn it up and we'll get it done.

And they did. Yeah. The guy sitting next to you who I had maybe about a thousand high fives with, he just kept on saying, We're a second-half team. We're a second-half team. I know that it sounds crazy, but it really was the vibe in the stadiums. We're not giving up. We just have to put a couple of plays together.

Can we talk about the new good luck ritual that we have before bears games? Yes. I walked into this, had no idea what the fuck was happening. I still don't really understand it. But yeah, maybe you can explain it better than I can.

We have a guy, Mikey Betz, who He's one of my favorite guys. He works on Frank Fleming Corporation Incorporated. We have a group chat with everyone, all the bears fans in this office, and he texted and said, We have to I have a good luck charm for the games. I was like, Okay, we're going to start this in the playoff. He's like, Yeah, we have to start it. The new good luck charm is taking a bite of ramen that's not cooked, just a brick, a brick, and then taking a shot of Rumplemints. I kept on saying, Mikey, I think this is a bad idea to start a new good luck thing before the playoffs. We should have done this in the regular season. To the point where Zack memes Eddie and I got in the car at 3: 30 to go tailgate. I He turned on my car and I said, Oh, fuck. Mikey Betz isn't here yet. If we don't eat this ramen, he will never forgive us if we lose this game. We got out of the car, went back inside, sat there for 20 minutes. I guess we're just eating ramen now.

It's not just the brick of ramen. You also put the reasoning. He said that he had a vision while he was driving, which that's a whole another question. But the vision was you take the brick, you put that brick in your face, you sprinkle the ramen powder on it, you take bite, and then you chase it with not just rumplements, but off-brand rumplements. It worked, so you have to do it now. You can't stop doing this anymore. No, of course. It's the birth of a new tradition.

Even if we lose in the next round, we have to do it next year.

Because this was such a big game.

This was the biggest game. This game was everything. I'll remember for the rest of my life. It's one of those things. It's rare being able to go to one of these games and be like, Yeah, that That was it. That was something that you'll... I mean, yeah, I'm mumbling now, but that's how I feel. It was just incredible. Okay, before we get to the Sunday games, DraftKings. Every week in the NBA, stars rise, legends are made, and one player rules them all. Draftkings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner. The NBA is bringing back king of the court, and now it's every Tuesday of the season. Here's how it works. Draftkings is putting up one million in bonus bets each week. Opt in, apply your token, and place a five-dollar pregame bet on the NBA star you think will dominate each Tuesday. If your pick finishes the night leading the league in points, rebounds, and assists, they're crowned king of the court, and you win your share of one million in bonus bets. In this season, there's a new way to track the action. The King of the court leaderboard inside the app. Before tip off, see the top 10 stars in points, rebounds, and assists.

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Fraud? Yeah. No, he's saying, Fuck, fuck. He's saying, Fuck. Fuck the packers. I find it very funny. We have a long-standing rule on this show that if you unironically claim someone as being classless, you've already lost.

Yeah, so Stay Classy is trending right now. Yeah. If you say Stay Classy, you're on the wrong side.

Yeah, we had a whole bit about it when we started the show.

It amounts to just somebody being mad that someone else is happy.

Listen, this is obviously not all packers fans because a lot of them, I don't think, give a shit. I'd say the majority of them don't give a shit, but a few online give a shit. It's just very funny because this is Aaron Rodgers said, I own you. I fucking own you, to the entire Soulja Field crowd on a hot mic. I know that's a little different because he's not the coach. They had at the... I think Clay Matthews at the draft said, The bears still suck, which the packers fans love to say. The Jordan Love treated the Happy Father's Day. It's a rivalry.

Let's have a rivalry. They're shocked because the shoes never been on the other foot. What does it matter? This is what happens. And guess what? You'll get over it. It'll be all right. And it's good. I'm glad they're mad. I'm glad. You should I'm going to actually be glad, too, Big guy.

Oh, I am. No, I find it. I'm having a great time seeing these takes fly around.

You should be pumped that finally, Packers fans care enough about the bears to actually be upset about how the bears act in victory. Yeah.

It's just a very funny idea that we have. Al Duke said, Remember when Tom Landry would do this after winning a wild card game? Me neither. Coaches used to have class. Now everybody just throws F-bombs around. Total losers. Go paint your Cubies' fingernails. Yeah. And then Dickey V, this one broke my heart because I love Dickey V, but he said, Totally classless attitude and winning by Ben Johnson, coach of the bears in the fab come back to beat the packers. Main theme should have been the gutty come back, not the childish fuck packers comment.

What do you think Coach K would have done in that situation, Big Cat? Would Coach K have said, Fuck the packers? No, Coach K would have walked into the Packers locker room and told Matt LaFleur, Hey, you coached a great game. You got a bright future ahead of you. I'm sure that we're going to be great rivals from here on out, and you're too good of a coach to be making those kinds of mistakes that you made in the second half, and I can't wait to see you clean those up.

And he also would have, if anyone had caught him saying, Fuck the Packers on a live mic, he would have sent him to Siberia where Pete Gaudet is staying.

That's true.

And burn the tape.

L Dukes is right because think about the old-school coaches that we love so much. Like your Woody Hayes. Yeah. Guys that knew how to handle victory.

You're Bob Knight.

Yeah, those guys. Real men's men. Rick Mujeres. Yeah, the strong, silent type. Gary Cooper. No, this is good. Listen, and coaches- It's awesome. Coaches have always done this. It's just that we didn't have cameras in every single locker room getting the postgame speeches to then try to monetize on social media afterwards. So we never got to see how your Vince Lombardis would act outside of a few curated clips that were put out by the Lombardi estate to make him look like he was above reproach as a coach.

I did see the one clip that was great was from Brian Billick It must have been 25 years ago. Nfl Films was in there, and he said, Great game, gutsy win. And then he said, Everyone, turn the cameras off, turn the cameras off. And the cameras went down and didn't turn off. And then he just goes, Fuck the Titans. This has been happening in locker rooms for all of time. Jesus Christ. So I love that people are this upset. Yeah, it really is like the little guy punches back. They're like, Oh, that's not fair. Don't fight like this. Yeah, what the fuck, dude? But it's a very funny idea to lose a game and then quote classiness. That really is the biggest loser move you could have.

Yeah. I mean, they're clinging to some stages of cope right now, and they'll get over it, and the rivalry is going to be that much better moving forward.

It's going to be great. Okay. Sunday. Sunday. Bills Jags. This was the trilogy of the three games that we had in a row where the team winning underneath under the two-minute warning did not end up winning the game. Bills Jags, Bills 27, Jags 24, Josh Allen.

Josh Allen simply refused to admit that he was hurt, and he just turned into Superman. I don't know What drugs they shot him up with. I don't know how he got back from that knee bend that he had. He got his bell rung early in the game, too. He got his hand fucked up. He had three separate injuries that he was getting checked out for. He was just like, You know what? Fuck it. I think we called that. We're not exactly geniuses for saying that Josh is going to do some fuck shit in the playoffs because that's what Josh Allen does. But all the talk about him being injured while I think he was injured for the second part of the season, he just doesn't care in the playoffs. He's like, Fuck it. And speaking of classlessness, Big Cat, you see what the Jaguars did outside their locker room, outside the visiting locker room? Oh, no. Man. What happened? They painted a giant mural outside the visitor's locker room. Okay. You know what the mural says? What? Says Duval. Then underneath that said, Ranked Most Intimidating Chant in the NFL. That's the last thing that you have to see before you go in.

Who ranked it? I think it was a guy on the internet. I think it was a guy on the internet put together a list. Then the Jaguar said, We're going to put that outside, and it's going to be a warning. Like that cave diver thing that says, Warning, turn around, you're going to die if you go past this point. That's a pretty intimidating sign. This is worse.

Do you think that they showed. So if they pulled everyone in all the chants, do you think that it was the Duval chant, or do you think they showed them Liam Cohen trying it in his introductory press conference? They're like, Oh, I don't want to be... That guy freaks me out. Intimidating in a very different way, but still intimidating.

I think it was a webcam shot of the pool. People chanting it in the pool is pretty rough. But I was thinking about other chants. The only one I can think might come close, maybe the Skull chant in Minnesota.

Yeah, Skull. Although it always feels like a soccer chant, right?

Yeah.

Or if you're starting Denmark or maybe it didn't. I don't know.

If you're trying to quit tobacco, that would be a tough one to deal with.

I actually think an underrated one is in the Broncos when they yell, Incomplete. I always like that one.

Now, if the Vikings wanted to amp it up, they should just start chanting Nine. Yeah. Make it sound like a Ramstein concert. Yeah.

It was cool to see the Jags in a playoff game again. It was cool to see It was very cool. Let's talk a little more to Josh Allen, though, because he was incredible. He was pretty much perfect. He was 28 for 35, 273 yards, a countdown, and two rushing touchdowns. Perfect under pressure, 14 for 16, 195 yards. That pass he made to Brandon Cooke's on the last drive, that 36-yard pass, I saw the all-22 of it, and he released it well before Brandon Cooke's was even close to open. He basically played the defensive backs perfectly perfectly and read it perfectly. Again, you listed it. He was, again, you listed it, like, he came in with a foot, got checked for a concussion, hurt his knee, hurt his finger, was not going to be denied, was Superman out there. And the Bills defense, which is not very good against the rush. The Jags maybe should have tried to take more time and limit possessions. They had a pretty good game in terms of secondary. Tredavius White had a really good game. He forced that second interception that clinched the game. So the Bills did enough. The conversation going into this playoff has been it's Josh Allen's playoff to lose.

I never really prescribed to that theory because I think the Bills are a very flawed team. But today's game proved why that might be true just because he's Josh Allen. We said it on Friday's show, I think the Jags are the better team overall, but they don't have Josh Allen. When Josh Allen, he has the ability to just be like, I'm not going to be denied.

Yeah, and that's what he They did today. Their pass defense is really good. Their rush defense is not good at all. No. The Jaguars just straight up gashed them up. I don't know why they stopped running the football as much, but I think between their two runningbacks, they were averaging, I think, over seven yards per carry between the two of them. The bills didn't seem like they had any answer for it whatsoever.

Yeah, they should have. This is all hindsight. Trevor Lawrence, so he started that the pick he threw in the first half was bad. Obviously, the pick at the end. It happens because you're trying to press and you have 45 seconds or whatever it was to try to make something work. He did have nice drives in the middle. I feel like the Jaguar should have basically gone in with the game plan of, We cannot let Josh Allen have the ball. Let's just control the clock and run it down their throat. They averaged 6. 7 yards per carry. And overall, this Jaguar season is a massive win. It sucks that they lost this game, but it is a massive win. They have It feels like everything started to come together. Liam Cohen is a really good coach. They have an awesome wide receiver room, and they have a great running. Jacobi Meyer is Parker Washington, Brian Thomas might be their third best receiver.

Which is crazy. It's crazy. At the start of the season, if you had said that, that's nuts. Yeah, nuts.

The question is, is Trevor Lawrence, who was playing at that insane level the last eight weeks of the season and then had two mistakes today, are we going into the offseason saying, Is that more like Trevor Lawrence, or was it the last eight weeks of the season?

I I think you're pumped. I think you're a Jags fan. You're pumped about everything, not just like Liam Cohen and the new regime, the 30-year-old stat nerd that is now your GM. You're excited about those things.

James Gladstone?

Yeah, you're super excited about Trevor. I think that you don't even have doubts anymore.

But he wasn't great today.

He wasn't great today.

He hasn't been great in the playoffs. I like Trevor Lawrence. I believe in Trevor Lawrence. I'm just saying you know how these payoff games go, especially as you get longer. I mean, if the Bills had lost this game, the conversation would have been, Josh Allen can't win it, even Even though Josh Allen, they showed the stat. He leads every single stat in the playoffs. I think he's the only payoff quarterback to have 25 passing touch downs and 8 rushing touch downs ever in the NFL.

Yeah, the conversation would also be like, Harbaugh or McDaniel. Who do you want? Right.

Then they win their first playoff game. The Bills win their first playoff game on the road since 1992. Josh Allen has gone six straight seasons with winning at least one playoff game. But this is how it I had never went on the road. It's so stupid that this sport, if you lose in the playoffs, it becomes crisis. We just got done talking about the packers potentially firing Matt LaFleur.

No, I think that you're very excited about Trevor. You have some doubts about whether or not Trevor can be perfect all the time like he was for the last eight weeks. But I think you're super excited about the future of the team. I agree. I also appreciate the reporter after the game asking that really nice question to Liam Cohen. Did you hear her? Yeah. It was a great I don't think there was a question. It actually was indistinguishable from when we interviewed Joe Burrow after they won the national championship. We were both probably blown a 0. 12 BAC, and I asked a rambling question that was just pretty much, Hey, Joe, your team is awesome. You guys are awesome.

As two guys that went to journalist school, though, I feel like Jake Marsh has got to be so mad about this.

Honestly, if you're Jake Marsh and you're a real capital J journalist, you hear that question, do you think that took away value Valuable time from a real reporter in the room who was going to ask Liam Cohen to talk about what this season meant to him? We didn't get to hear that. We just got to hear a lady compliment Liam Cohen, and I was disgusted by it.

Yeah. Talk about that play you reviewed.

Yeah.

We needed that instead. Do you have it, Max, the reporter with Liam Cohen?

Isn't me or were the spots really weird in this game? Like the refere is spotting, but they had trouble spotting everything.

Well, here's what I think is happening in the NFL now. This is league-wide. Well, first of all, for some reason, adding two extra people on the ref crew seems to fuck them up. I think what's happening is everyone's passing the buck. So when they add two extra people, they're like, Oh, well, someone else will get it. Then when they have the virtual spotting technology, they're essentially saying, We'll just spot it wherever and we'll just send it up there, which doesn't really do anything.

Again, what they do with the virtual spotting technology is they take the spot from the ref.

Yeah, right.

The The ref puts the ball down on the field, and then they've got surveillance drones or whatever. They've got an M80 reaper hovering above, and they're like, Okay, let's just use the technology to see where this ball is on the field. So there's no actual measurement of where forward progress stopped being done by the computer. Correct. It's just them looking at a nice graphic display of it, and that way it looks more official. And I missed the chain gang. We said this when they brought this in. I fucking missed the chain gang because the chain gang, you get the pageantry, you get the ritual of having guys who are in their 70s jog out on the field very slowly, and they put the chain down. Then you get to see where the chain goes, if the ball is shorter. And if you're rooting for it to be a first down, when they put that stick down and the nose is poking out the side of it, then you It's almost like a second win that you get on that play.

It's the J'Davian Clowny. We wouldn't have had J'davian Clowny and all the craziness with that play happen if we don't have that. I'm just realizing now that the virtual spot measurement technology whatever the fuck they call it, it's no different than our very own Stephen Chey predicting every NFL game with his brain, putting it into a spreadsheet and calling it data. Then being like, Look at this data. They're having us look at this technology. Well, the technology said it was the first time. No, you did.

Yeah, they're calling it AI.

We also had the female ref who I think, other than the spots, they did a pretty good job. She did the very, I've never seen it before, the first down off a fumble with her single finger.

Yeah, one finger. Yeah.

Okay, so the reporter with Liam Cohen, what did she say exactly?

Okay, she goes, I just want to tell you congratulations on your success, young man. You hold your head up, all right? You guys have had the most magnificent season. You did a great job out there today, so you just hold your head up, okay? Ladies and gentlemen, Duval, you're the one. Keep it going. We've got another season. Take care and much continued success to you and your entire team. Then Liam Cohen looked back and he answered her question, and he said, Thank you. I appreciate it. Wow.

Beautiful. Yes, we are probably still waiting for Liam Cohen to explain one of his decisions.

Really touching.

Really, really touching. What do we think about the Bills going to Denver? Josh Allen's.

Josh Allen. Josh Allen is going to Denver. The Bills are trying to do this thing where they're going to try to win a Super Bowl without really any money spent on wide receivers. Brandon Cooke, like you mentioned. Brandon Cooke.

Gabe Davis got hurt in this game.

Gabe Davis got hurt. Keion Coleman had a good reception, a nice little run after catch. They've got some tight ends, but it's the Josh Allen show. I'm just not going to bet against Josh Allen until proven otherwise.

Yeah, that was my entire reasoning for this game. I was like, Yeah, I think the Jags are better, but it's Josh Allen.

Yeah.

And he did exactly that.

Now, We should say goodbye to Highmark Stadium.

Yes, officially.

Officially, there will be no more games in Highmark. For a while, we didn't know when the Chargers were playing against the Patriots. Do you think the stadium got to watch the game to see if they're going to have another... They probably put up on the Jumbo Trough.

Yeah, they probably did. This does mean we're one step closer to getting the troughs, which will be awesome. Trough market went crazy after I talked about it. I screwed myself on that one. I think we're good. I think we're good. I think we're going to get a trough in here, and we're going to get it. I had a conversation with one of the guys in our office who does a lot of the stuff around here who's very good, Chris, and he's like, Are you serious about installing a trough? I was like, Yeah. He's like, What's wrong? He's like, Well, Well, we are leasing this place. It's a 10-year lease. He's like, And that is a pretty big renovation in the bathroom. I was like, All right, well, tell me.

What? Don't say anything about bathroom.

Well, I told him, I was like, Listen, you can just... Some Today, when we leave this building, you don't think they're going to want that trough. I'll leave it to them. I don't care. And if they don't, I'll take it back.

Yeah. You know what? This is going to drive the rent up. Yeah. We did them a favor. Yeah, we got this. We have a giant kitchen that's got plumbing in Why don't we just put the trough next to Donny's kitchen?

The one question. We did get in touch. Thank you, everyone, who hit us up about getting us in touch with the Steiner Sports Auction guys. We're going to figure out a price, but I think we have the ability to potentially get it signed by a couple of Bills players. Is that weird?

Signed when you write your name in the snow?

No, they're going to sign it. They're going to sign the trough.

Oh, okay. With like, handwriting.

Yeah, with a Sharpie.

All right, cool.

That would be pretty cool, right?

It Great. Yeah.

So maybe we'll request that.

Let's do it. Yeah.

Oh, I'm excited. We're going to be pissing in troughs, boys. We're all going to see each other.

A lot. This is a great thing to buy. I don't know why there's so many doubters and naysayers out there.

There actually aren't. There are a lot of people who are like, This is great.

I've heard a few people that are like, This is gross. Why are you doing this?

Oh, well, because it's awesome. Give me a list.

I'll tell you why. Because it's awesome.

Yeah. Give me a list.

We do kick-ass shit. I'm sorry for you if you don't do kick-ass shit.

I like to think it's not a secret that we've done well for ourselves throughout the course of this podcast. I like to think of ourselves as Batman if he was a 12-year-old boy and just was like, I have money to buy the dumbest shit possible. I'm not buying armor. I'm not buying a Batmobile. I'm buying a thing that we can piss in in an ice cream machine.

No disrespect to Batmobile.

What are you going to do now that you're on Netflix?

Buy a thing we can all see each other's cocks on. Oh, Trough came on Netflix.

That'd be good.

They probably would do that. We just have to have the Raising Art.

Once they figure out, yeah, like live streaming. Yeah. A live stream of- Of the trough. Of live streams.

I want a list of the people who are not... Listen, we have other bathrooms. Yeah. They can go there.

Pissant your trough is great.

You don't make a mess. You can never make a mess.

If you're saying, Oh, well, it's sexist and it excludes the females. No, they can use it, too.

Yeah, they can use it. Yeah.

I'm not saying that wouldn't a trough for women- Wouldn't a trough for women- Employees of Some sports can't pee in a trough.

They certainly can't. Wait, wouldn't a trough for women just be a floor with a drain in it? It would be a hole.

Yeah, it's just a floor with a drain. It's just a floor with a drain. Yeah, a fountain.

Yeah. They just go in and they just drop trough and they just piss on the floor.

My all-time most traumatic pissing experience. It's a shower.

A trough for a woman is a shower.

It was at a concert in Northern Virginia when I was 14, 15 years old. In the men's room there, they had a urinal that was straight up just like a bird bath. I'm talking 15, 20-foot diameter, like bird bath, circular firing squad. Everybody just went up to it and pissed towards each other in the middle. That is a bad place to take a piss as a 14-year-old.

That is very That's what they had. Do you also remember Jerome Bettis' restaurant in Pittsburgh, where they had the urinals above it? There was a two-way mirror you could look out, which that always was very weird to me. At JMU, they have- That feels like something Kirby Pucket would have done.

They have a toilet that you can crap on overlooking the field and watch the game. Oh, that's cool. It's pretty nice.

What are you going to say, Max? You still follow that it's not the food trough? We could get a food trough.

Don't want one.

That would be cool, though. Imagine if it was just a trough full of French fries every day. We just walk by.

It could be a salad bar.

That actually is just our kitchen. We have a trough every Sunday. I actually would like to What do you estimate the amount of wings we've had in this office this football season? I want to say it's probably, and I know people are going to be like, That's insane. I'm going to say it's like 5,000.

I want to say that we probably We get 200? Do you think 200 every week?

I think so. I think those trays are 50.

We get four of them. Okay. I'd say probably 150 to 200 every week times 19.

Then there's a couple of Saturdays and a couple of college football.

Yeah, it's a lot of wings. It's a lot of wings.

It's pretty disgusting. Hey, we love life.

Shout out Wingnuts.

Yeah. Shout out Wingnuts.

Hope you guys go to the Super Bowl this year.

Yeah. They're going. We've always said we're going to buy it and eletion a ticket if the bills get to the Super Bowl.

Yeah, do a little pop-up restaurant there. All right.

So overall, A plus year, A year for the Jags? Yeah. A. A winning a playoff Would you think that the game would have made it A plus?

I'd say, yeah. It was an A year. You won your division.

Everything feels like it's going up. And you have now the ability to tweak some of the things. You have some young talent that's really good. It was cool seeing those teal uniforms back in The playoffs, Jaguars are going up.

And we got a Josh Allen on Josh Allen's sack today. We did. That was nice. We did.

Okay, next game. San Francisco, 23, Philadelphia, 19.

By the way, real quick, how How far do you think Josh can throw the ball up in Denver?

Oh, man.

Probably like 90 yards. Over those mountains. He should try. He absolutely should try.

I'm excited to watch a playoff football in Denver. It just feels a little different.

It does, yeah.

It It feels fun. And they did play last year. That was an ass kick.

Yeah.

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Philadelphia loses to the San Francisco 49ers 23-19. Max, would you like to start or would you like us to start?

You can start. Okay.

The Niners are, by any which way they can, they have another devastating injury this game with George Kittle going out with an Achilles, which sucks. He drink an entire tequila bottle in the locker room. Diana, great reporting by her. That rocks. Yeah, that rocks. That sucked. It was windy. It was gross. The defense of the Niners is very injured, but they found a way. They found a way through Christian McCaffrey being Christian McCaffery and having, what do you have? Like, 115 yards, I think, total and two touch downs. They had DeMarcus Robinson, who his season high for yards on the season in the game was 44. Two catches for 44 was a season high game. He had one countdown all season in 14 games. He went six for 111 in a countdown. They had Kyle Usheck catching the ball. George Kittle goes out, and they just like, All right, Kyle Usheck, you beat George Kittle. He caught four passes for 49 yards.

They've done good catches, too.

Yeah. Any which way. And then it really, Juan Jennings, the trick play, the countdown that seals the game was a ballsy-ballsy play in the wind, in the circumstances. But it was an incredible win for the 49ers. They just gutted it out.

The Niners have now won 11 consecutive wild card or divisional games. Wow. It's been 23 years since they lost in in a playoff game that was not the NFC Championship game.

This is what they do. They go to the NFC Championship game.

This is what they do. It never felt like a real great offense on either side of the football. Quinian Mitchell had a great game. I think Brock Purdy played pretty well. He did. He did enough. He did enough to win. He made a couple of bone-headed mistakes and had some bad picks. But besides those, I thought Brock Purdy, his ability to improvise a little bit and his ability to buy a few seconds in the pocket and wait for somebody to get open, that was the difference in the game.

And Jawn Jennings with the unbelievable pass. You know Jouan Jennings? Do you know who Jouan Jennings? He was recruited as a dual threat QB. Do you know who he was ranked ahead of in his class? Any guesses?

Joe Burrow. Darnold.

Darnold, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson. So he was the fifth-ranked quarterback. Darnold was six, Joe Burrow was seven, Lamar Jackson was nine in that class.

He now has the third highest amount of postseason passing touchdowns from any Tennessee volunteer.

Wow.

Behind Payton Manning with 40, and Pat Ryan, who has five. He's got two now. He's got two.

I also saw Ian Hart It's on... I guess I said his name right. It's Hard Tits. Yeah. H-a-r-t-i-t-z. That's Hard Tits.

Hard Tits. Hard Tits. Yeah.

Ian Hard Tits, tweeted out, Career postseason, TD passes. Juan Jennings, 2. Derek Carr, 1. Remember Mike Thomas?

Yeah.

He retweeted that.

Oh, shit.

I forgot about Mike Thomas.

I've got maybe Stat of the Day.

Okay.

Stat of the Day. From Dante Copp-Flim. Juan Jennings had more completed passes over 15 air yards than Jalen Hertz did. He had one. Jalen Hertz, over five.

This was the most Okay, I want to hear Max's take on all this, but my take from the outside here is that Eagles fans are not happy, but maybe a little relieved because this game was essentially every single game they watched this year, where the defense was very good, and the offense was completely unimaginative, and they had spurts where they looked good. Saquon was good in the first half. Then they stopped the run. They couldn't pass. It was painful to watch, and it's almost like being put down for the season and being like, You know what? It's better that this is over right now because the offense was so bad. It was never going to happen. And now you can actually make meaningful changes. I saw Dan Orlowski said he watched the tape. They were on the on the eagles final drive to try to win the game, they ran 10 plays on the full drive. Four of those plays of the 10 were either a repeat, a previous play from that drive or repeat from a play they had already run that game. So they just didn't have enough plays. They were just running the same plays that just didn't work over and over.

I mean, it was Coach Ducks.

Yeah, it was me. It was if I were the offensive coordinator of the Philadelphia Eagles and I just kept on doing mesh over the middle, throwing the same receiver, and then every now and then running the ball behind the tackle.

Fourth and eleven, it was four verts. It was the madden play four verts that every single kid plays, uses when they want to get a big play.

Did you catch it on the sideline? What happened before that play?

People keep showing that. I don't really understand.

Okay, so I saw it in real-time, and I was like, That was weird. So they go to the sideline. You got Kevin Patulo, you've got nick Siriani, you've got Jalen Hertz, and Kevin Petulo is talking to Jalen Hertz, and then he tosses a play out there. He says a play, and then he looks at nick Siriani, and Siriani gives us a look like, I don't know, but if that's what you think, if you're passionate about that play, I guess I trust you. And then Jalen Hertz was like, I guess he's telling me to run this play. And everybody was like, It better work, because Siriani obviously did not like it, whatever he said. And then they went out there and did that. And the fact that it was four verts is crazy. Also, Patulo, yes, bad offense coordinator. I feel like Siriani's got to step in right there. If he doesn't like the play, that's your job.

Yeah, look at his face.

Yeah, watch it.

And he was just like... Did you see it? Yeah.

I mean, you can't see, it hurts his face.

As much as everyone... Yeah, Kevin Patulo.

That's it? Wait, no, he says it, and then Siriani gives a look like.

Dude.

Yeah. All right. He's like, Okay.

You sure?

Yeah. We're doing Four verts? And then Jalen Hertz is like, I don't know.

People are going to come after Jalen Hertz. I don't know what you do with some of these players. I don't put a ton of blame on Jalen Hertz. He won the Super Bowl MVP last year. I just don't put him as the top of the eagles problems.

There's also three drops on third down. A. J. Brown had a horrendous game. He was fighting with the coaches.

No, not true. Tom braided said they've got a great relationship.

He was yelling at the coach. I mean, he was. I don't know what else. He was yelling at the coach. He can have a good relationship with the and still yell at him on the sideline because he was late getting off of the field, and Seriani was trying to tell him to get off the field so he didn't get a penalty.

Seriani sprinted over to him.

Because we were about to get a penalty.

Then AJ got in his face and big Thank God Big Dom was there, Hank.

I know. I'm just sad the Eagles lost because it just means no more Big Dom for the year.

Also, Big Dom, great hands. Better hands than A. J.

Brown. Yeah, good catch.

Good catch.

Yeah, you're absolutely right. It was exactly what we saw all season. It was exactly what we were scared of all season. The offense just absolutely failed. The defense was dominant like it had been all year. There was a couple lapses in the defense, but for the most part, they were the only ones that really kept you in that game in the second half. The offense just didn't get it done. Whether it was Siriani Hertz, AJ Brown, Devante Smith, Kevin Patulo, everyone was a huge part of the problem. Problem. Kevin Patulo has to be fired tomorrow.

He has to be fired already. Yeah.

It hurts. Every time the season ends, it's not a good feeling. It sucks. You don't get to watch your team play football anymore.

What about last year?

Well, I didn't have it last year.

It would have ended.

Every time. Yeah, okay.

So not every time. He got you on that one.

Okay, yes. But we won the Super Bowl last year. This team was just never going to do it. This team was never going to do it. It was never going to win the Super Bowl this year. This isn't one of those losses where you see it and it's like, Oh, this was our shot. This was a team that was our shot. That was our This team was never that team. It doesn't hurt as bad as some other losses, like playoff losses do. Now you can go out and get your coordinator early.

Yeah. Pft. Pft. Max.

Well, not that early because other teams are already getting coordinators.

Who's hired coordinators?

The commanders did. Yeah, the commanders. David Blau. Sorry. David Blau is off the market, buddy.

Blau or weird.

Should have fired I should have fired him already. I should have fired him already, man. Yeah. Tough break.

How do you like that?

Tough break.

It's tough. I was already looking for new coordinators last week.

Well, no, but they already got their new coordinator.

Blau.

The hottest name in the news.

Remember, you were like, We're going to Because we fired Kingsbury, we're going to get a super hot name, and it's Blau. It's Blau.

It's Blau, baby. You got a problem with Blau?

Sounds like you got a problem with Blau.

This is the first I'm hearing of Blau.

You missed the news? There was big news.

Is that how you spell it?

Yeah, yeah. Purdue Boilermaker.

Yeah, Detroit Lion. I actually remember this. Yeah, he's awesome.

Can we have him on the show?

I don't know. I think his wife's brother is Christian Gonzales from the Patriots. That's awesome. Fun fact. Yeah, Max, I had a question.

So you're already behind in the coordinator, just so we're clear. Sorry. Yes.

Pft. I have a question. What does this mean for the window?

It actually makes it perfect for the window.

What do you mean? I'm just saying, where are we in the window right now for the Eagles?

Next year, you're going to win the Super Bowl, or we'll at least go there.

There's a theme here. Win the Super Bowl, lose in the first round. Or no. Or go to the Super Bowl, lose in the first round.

It's not only that. It's 2022, 14 and 3, reach Super Bowl, 2023, 11 and 6, losing wild card, 2024, 14 and 3, reach Super Bowl. They won it. 2025, 11 and 6, losing wild card. So they're now four years in a row. They just had the same season.

Yeah.

And we're going to go get a coordinator, and we'll be back next year.

Do you think is Lane coming back next year?

Yes, Lane will be back.

Oh, officially reported by Max. Yeah.

He's not going to end that way.

No, he's not going to end that way. Need some offensive line. I felt like that was a big part of the Eagles. The play calling was number one. You guys couldn't run the ball like you could in years past. Saquon started to break a couple today, and it felt like the eagles were going to find their mojo. Then there was just a bunch of negative run in the second half.

There was a lot of penalties. There were so many penalties that just fucked. They were playing behind the sticks the entire second half.

This is a quintessential... The Eagles told us who they were all year. Yes. And then they were that. That's why it doesn't...

There's no fireworks, blah, blah, blah. That is what it was. We knew that we were going to get to this point eventually. We were trying to convince ourselves that we weren't. But deep down, we knew this offense was not good enough to win a Super Who do you want?

Now that we've established Blau's off the market, who are your top guys? Can't get David Blau. Your top guys are recording.

So don't even think about it.

Mcdaniel.

Mike. Mike. Are you concerned at all about his very close relationship with Dan Quinn affecting his ability to call plays for the Eagles in games against the commanders. He'd probably tank those games. Wait.

You guys signed an offensive coordinator?

David Blau, yeah.

So he can't go to the commanders.

I didn't say that.

Yeah, he didn't say that.

I said, If he is your offensive Offensive Coordinator, he'll probably tank those games against his best friend, World Day and Quinn.

Right. Yeah, no, I guess that's something I got to think about.

Okay, thank you.

You should probably think about that.

Mcdaniel, I agree. I think McDaniel, brilliant offensive mind. Maybe one of the guys that would be best suited to be the best offensive coordinator in the league.

And Vic Fangio coordinated for him in Miami. So maybe. I know that's obviously not Vic Fangio is the defensive coordinator, but still, there's a relationship there.

That's a good connection.

There you go. I got that connection for you right there.

Brian Dable also, potentially, he was Jalen Hertz's coordinator at Alabama.

When they kicked him out of school, when they said, Hey, We're going to go to a?

Maybe, but that's okay.

We're not looking at it.

We're not looking at it. We're digging a little bit too deep right now.

Why are you doing so many details, P.

F. T? It was crazy. I actually don't know the answer to that question.

Alabama claims Jalen Hertz.

Yeah. Yeah. Listen, for all the shit that we give him, we do it because we know he's a really good quarterback, and he's just looked sad this year. It's looked bad. It's looked depressing.

We need a new coordinator.

We need a new coordinator. Do you need a new receiver?

A. J. Brown is probably gone.

I'll say that. Didn't speak to the media, hugged all his teammates.

Yelled that they had a little shouting match on the sideline during the game, A. J. Brown and nick Seriani. What do we think about that? Feels like those guys probably...

Great relationship.

Great relationship. Great relationship. Nick Seriani said after the game, I have a special relationship with him. We probably went through every emotion you can possibly have together that happens in this game, but I love them. Do you think they've come together? Yeah. If they were talking every emotion.

Yeah, I think you got to. I think you got to get the boys in a room, play Elky Cookie. At some point.

Max, maybe phone sex. I don't know.

What would a return be for A. J. Brown?

I don't know. A trade return? Yeah. I don't know because it feels like the relationship there is done.

Maybe-second?

I don't know.

Yeah, maybe.

Because it doesn't feel like you're... But it's Howie. Howie is probably going to get two first. Fucking Howie. You know he will.

How old is he now? 29? 28. 28.

He's still young. Yeah.

He is still young.

Hank, do you want him? Yeah.

What would you give up?

Yeah, negotiate right now with Max.

Fifth rounder. Then he's still not playing for you guys, so why not?

Why not? He's under contract. Sure can. Did you not see that the nick Ceriani and A. J. Brown have a special relationship? They've been through every emotion you could possibly have together and maybe coming.

Means just told me I should trade him to the bills.

I'm sure he... I don't know where A. J. Brown is going to go. Maybe he'll just be in Philadelphia.

That's also a chance because the deadcap is going to be crazy if we were to trade.

You have Howie.

You'll figure it out. I don't understand the cat. I don't think they're going to bring him back. No one does. I really don't. I'd be very surprised if he was an Eagle next year.

Yeah, I would probably lean that way.

Because it's not just the attitude stuff that they don't seem to see eye to on. It's the fact that he'll have these moments where him and the coaching staff are at odds with each other, and then his game is just way off. He was not good today. He was bad. He was bad today.

He was bad. What are you going to do, though, if you get rid of A. J. Brown, you need another receiver, right?

Howie.

Okay. I did see a guy on the sidelines making some nice catches.

Big Dom?

Yeah.

It's a great catch. Yeah.

If I got a Big Dom Laboo, you wouldn't put it on your backpack? No. Why?

Because I'm not 12. Okay.

Why else?

I would love a Big Dom Laboo. That thing was sick.

Was sick? The Laboo was sick. It's a Laboo of Big Dom.

It was a Laboo.

Sounds like you don't respect Laboo.

No, not really.

You don't even know what they are.

No, they're like-Action figures? Stuffed animals. I don't fucking know. Yeah.

They're kids' toys. I've gotten in the Laboo game.

Max, how do you feel about-Multiple Laboo's in my house.

Jake Smeliet. He's gone.

It was windy.

He sucks.

Yeah, but it was windy.

I don't think that he sucks because I looked it up, Max. Jake Smeliet is, I believe, a top five kicker for field goals in playoff history.

What about extra points?

Extra points, he is the worst of all time, and it's not really close. On extra points, he has attempted He's made 31 out of 43.

No.

That's a 72% extra point rate in the playoff. It is true. That's insane. That's Jake Elliott. So 72% on extra points. Second place, second worst is 86 %, and then 89 %, 91 %. He's 72 % on extra points, but he's a top five kicker in terms of accuracy on field goals. He kicks longer than that. There's something about an extra point that really fucks him up in the playoffs.

What about total kicks?

What do you mean total kicks?

The percentage of every time he kicks the ball through an upright.

Every time he's kicked. If you add in field goal percentage and extra point.

Yes. I don't know if that exists.

It's way too much math for me.

I would have a feeling that if you include both of them, he's still probably not very good.

Well, yeah, because of all the extra points. Correct. That's what we're saying. Yeah, the extra- Those are important. Yeah, The extra point, it made a big difference with how the Eagles tried to come back in that game.

Yeah, we were down four instead of three.

Four points, and the Niners missed one, too.

Maybe he missed one so that he wouldn't have to take a game-tying field goal because he didn't want to miss that. Maybe. Kind of smart.

But that's the thing is he would have made the game-tying field goal.

Yeah, true, because it wasn't an extra point.

Yeah. I think he's just trying to tell Siriani, Hey, go for two every time. The Eagles It should go for two every time in the playoffs.

Is the touch switch broken?

No, the touch switch worked today.

Okay, yeah. I thought it did, but I feel like- Throughout the year, it's been significantly worse, but today it was good. I thought you handled yourself well in the stream. I don't. Why? You were fine. You were locked in. There was a couple of funny moments. You complained a lot about commercials. Also, when they showed the game. They zoomed in. They did the sky cam coming into the stadium, and it was just a bunch of fans, I think, holding up a piece of paper that said, Go birds. Max got so mad that he did not-I was just confused. He didn't know there was going to be reading involved in this football game. He's like, What the fuck is this? What the fuck is this? It's like, Max, it just says birds.

I just didn't know what it was. I was in one of those modes where everything I was saying was coming out angry, but that I actually was just curious. What is this? Yeah.

Your tone was locked in.

My tone was angry, but my words were, What is this? I was just curious as to what it was.

It felt vaguely like soccer I just didn't know what it was.

It was cool, but I didn't know what it was. I wanted to know what it was.

Does anybody get meatballs after this game?

Quinian.

He had a bad first drive, but he was so good the rest of the game. Yeah. He really tried to get us back in that game.

Yeah. It was a... I mean, it's credit to Niners. The Niners are just a never die team.

That team is just not that good.

I know, but they- They did enough. They didn't have- I know. I mean, no Ricky Piersall, like George Kittle tears his Achilles.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, they just- The Eagles aren't... That team is just whatever.

They have mental toughness. They do, the Niners. Yeah.

Oh, for sure. I'm just saying the talent on that... There was more talent on the Eagles roster today by far. But that's not how they play the- Kyle Shanaan is significantly better.

A much better coach. Christian McAfee looked great today. Also, so did Saquan. Saquan looked pretty good.

Saquan was great.

Saquan was great. Yeah, I'm just always impressed in that because you said it, PFT, a ton. This is Kyle Shanaan's Best coaching job.

I really think that, especially- There's a lot of teams that if they have a lot of these injuries, they just fold in and they're just like, Well, we can't compete.

We have these injuries.

Can you imagine Kyle Shanaan, if they took away that giant electromagnetic station next to their practice?

Yeah, having the Achilles injury to Kittle right after that story went viral. It's not the best timing.

Yeah. Niners fans just show up with a shitload of magnets.

I think Kendrick Bourne brought it up.

Oh, he did? Yeah. What did he say? Get that thing out of there? Yeah.

But then he was like, I'm just kidding.

But he's not because we said it. They're going to make them get rid of that.

I did hear Dr. David Chou talk about it, and he said that you actually use that same, the electromagnetic frequency, use that to heal injuries. So if anything, he thinks it would make them healthier. Maybe they just get super healthy when they practice, on their practice field, and then the second they're away from the giant power plant, then their bodies are like, What's going on? I need my electromagnetic therapy flowing through my body at all times. Yeah. We got to do something about the power plant.

We got to fix the power plant.

Just at least rename it. Say that it's like a flower nursery or something, but you can keep the power going. But now it's mental. Yes. Now it's in their heads.

I agree. Last question for you, Max. What?

Zack is saying that we have one next to our office.

Don't we have one right across the street? We do. Straight ahead? We do.

It's a power plant?

Yeah, it's a power facility. Oh, fuck. I thought it was, yeah.

Might be injury prone. Yeah.

Kidneystones?

You know what's a good way to counteract the power plant and becoming injury prone? Never doing anything.

It's true. Sedentary.

Yeah. Just don't move. If you don't move, you can't get injured. I don't hate that move. No, it's not a move.

I don't hate that. Don't move.

Yeah, it's a lack of move.

We should just be on motorized wheelchairs around this office.

Oh, that is a substation. Fuck.

Yeah.

No, no, no.

Oh, no, that's not where we are. That's not where we are.

I think we're fine. I think we're fine.

We're fine. I think it's like a cell phone tower. It's 5G. We'll probably get cancer.

I mean, look at all that. We're all super healthy.

I'll say that we have one thing that's coming up that I don't know if it's announced yet, but I'm worried about.

What? Oh.

Actually, not even that.

Oh, football? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Super Bowl week. Yeah.

I don't know if that's announced yet.

I don't think it is announced yet, but I think we're going to be playing some form of football. We should just do it, those videos of guys in the locker room where they do walking routes. We should just do a walking football game. I like that. No one can go faster than a walk.

I like that. Also, when we're out there for the Super Bowl, we should check out this electric facility. Yes. We should do some boots on the ground.

We should go touch it.

Yeah.

Because you have Zack it.

Oh, that's a great loser of this Picks thing today. Go touch it. Yeah.

Touch the substation? Yeah. Do burpees next to it until you tear everything in your body.

Or get healed by the other side.

That's true.

That's He could get super powers. I have one last question, Max. Is there any chance Nixeriani gets fired?

I think that there's one scenario that Pug brought it up to me.

And?

Kevin Patul and Nixeriani are very good friends. Yes. Because if Jeffrey Lory is like, We need to get rid of Kevin Patul, and nick Seriani says, No, if he goes, I go.

There's no way he would do that.

I don't think he would either. But you asked, Is there any scenario? That's the only scenario.

If he does say that, then he deserves to be fired. Then he doesn't have the best interest in the team.

That his judgment is so off.

Because there's just a zero % chance you run that back next year.

Are you worried about nick Cerrani for the future? Is he on the hot seat going into next year?

No.

That's a lie. That's such a lie. I'm going to say, Max, that's a lie.

You're being nice right now. You know that's a lie.

You're saying that you don't want him fired right now, which I agree with. He just won the Super Bowl. He's proving that he can bring guys together, lead you to a championship. Yeah, he shouldn't be fired. He should not be fired right now. Absolutely not. But you know for a fact, and you're a liar if you say otherwise, that we You could get to week four of next year, and you guys have a bad loss, and your office looks broken, and he's not on the hot seat.

He's on the hot seat. And that's, by the way, that's a Philly hot seat. That's not anywhere else. You wouldn't be on the hot seat two years removed from a Super Bowl.

He's on the Philly hot seat right now. When it comes to people of Philadelphia, he is on the hot seat. I am just telling you what I think.

So he's on the hot seat next year?

He's on the hot seat now.

Is he coaching He's always coaching for his job?

Always.

Yeah, it is his job to coach.

Always, it's his job.

It's his job.

It is his job.

I don't think that he should be on the hot seat, but there's a lot of talk right now. There is. That he is there now.

Other nice one is, Max, you don't have to stay in San Francisco for the whole weekend and try to find a way to- That's not nice at all. Okay, I was trying to be nice. I don't know.

That would be great. I would love to stay in San Francisco for the whole weekend.

No, I agree. I was just trying to find. I don't know. You were pretty hungover when you got back. You're not going to be this hungover.

I would love to be that hungover.

Another nice thing, you don't have to go to the game next week.

I would have loved to go. The AWS is down on content. We lost because now the bears are just in an NFC West tournament, and it would have been awesome to have us go to the Eagles's bears game. It would have been fun.

A lot of fun. Max, would you have rather played the packers?

No.

Why?

Packers lost. Egals lost.

Yeah. That Niners team, everyone got hurt on that team. There was no excuse. They were just not going to go on a run. So it doesn't matter who they played. Let's say you beat the pack.

Did you not hear the stat, though? They haven't lost in a divisional or wild card round in forever.

That's not true. At At home?

At home? No, the Niners. You said the Niners.

You screwed that up. You should have taken the packers. You should have won week 18.

Yeah. I don't know what to tell you.

Okay. Let's take a break, and then we'll talk Sunday football. Then we have Who's Back of the Week, and we'll finish up the show. Pft, you got a couple of ads.

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Okay, Sunday Night Football. The Patriets beat the Chargers 16 to three. We should get Shane in the booth, right? He's got to be in here because he's got to talk.

We'll start with you, Nate. He's got to answer for his team.

That was a beat down. I mean, it was a close game until the fourth quarter. But you guys might go to jail for what you did to Justin Herbert. That was a dominant defensive performance. I think the charger should go to jail for what he had done to Justin Herbert. That, too. But you guys, basically, Well, Drake May, in the first half, he wasn't lighting the world on fire, passing it, but his legs, that play at the end of the first half was electric. Then because the Patriest defense was so suffocating, it allowed him to get his feet wet in the play-off. Then in the second half, he was awesome.

Yeah, the game started off as badly as it could have. Interception gave the chargers the ball in the 10-yard line. They didn't score a point. It was funny when they showed the- Shane is here, by the way. The chargers, offensive linemen, when they were doing players introductions and their PFF rankings were like, dead last, dead last, second to dead last, third to dead last.

One of them just didn't have a ranking. They just skipped that guy. This guy's new. Yeah, we don't know.

But it's probably not good. They were just not a ball club.

They were not a ball club.

They were not a ball club.

I will admit that. The Chargers offense seemed to be like, Watch out, Justin. There's a guy there. And then him running away from that guy.

But also they were Running their receivers deep. They were doing deep routes. It's like, you know he's going to have no time. They should just be trying to dink and dunk, and they just weren't.

The game felt like it was over when the chargers couldn't... The tip ball interception that Drake may had at the beginning of the game, and the chargers got zero points. It's like, Okay, that's it. You're not going to win this game. You can't move the ball two yards when you need to.

It was once we got it outside of a one-score game, that's when I felt like the game was over.

Yeah, it was over. It was over. You feel good?

Yeah. It's fun to play meaningful football. I didn't think it It was a pretty game by any means. The defense played well.

It was the ugliest game of all the games. It was also fast.

It was the fastest game of all time. It was waiting all day for Sunday night, and then we blinked, and it was the fourth quarter.

Yeah, you guys ran the ball well. Like I said, the Drake May felt like the second half, he woke up.

It was good. Yeah, it's like, obviously, it was his first playoff game at home. They're going to get another chance next week. He got his feet wet. He had a big throw. The throw to Hunter Henry for a countdown was- It was a great pass.

Dot.

Great pass. Moving Moving in the pocket. So, yeah, it was a great win. Exciting.

Ready for whoever we play. I think you're underselling a little bit, Hank, because I don't know if you connected the dots like I connected when I watched. But this is my biggest bet of the year so far, calendar year. Congrats. On the Patriots. Thank you. I mean, it was a no-doubter, the way that the defense played, especially. Eerily similar to Tom Brady's first playoff game. One interception, your field goal kicker makes three field goals. Defense just owns the other team, and you score 16 points and win. Same thing happened in Tom Brady's first game.

That's good. That was a historically good defense. I don't know that these Patriots are that good.

No, they carried Drake May to this win. It was awesome.

How many times... Oh.

No, I'm saying this Pat's team is primed to be a dynasty. Because like, Drake May, yeah, he can manage it and then let the defense carry him, and then he'll evolve into being a great quarterback.

I was wondering where you were going, and I got it.

No, it just No one's going to argue the success of Patriestad, right? With Tom braided, best quarterback to ever play football. For sure. This is the exact blueprint that they've got with Drake May.

I love it. I'm down. I'm buying what you're selling. I'm in.

They sacked Justin Herbert six times. It I don't like more than that because he just was getting demolished. I mean, the Patriest defense played well. They dominated him. Absolutely dominated him. Is Christian Gonzales concussed?

Yeah, he wasn't allowed to speak with reporters after the game because that's just how it goes. If you go out with a concussion. But a reporter said he saw him in the locker room and said he's fine.

Okay, but is he concussed?

He told him he was fine.

Okay. Well, the fact that he got taken out of the game and then wasn't allowed to talk to the media tells me he's probably- Well, no.

Anyone that gets taken out. No, no, no. Anyone that gets taken out in the game for head injury is not allowed to talk to the media.

God, you've learned that rule today. Yeah. Probably now you're stunting it on us.

Yeah, now you're hand-waving me.

The only reason you're able to talk down to us right now is Is that you learned that rule 20 minutes before we did?

Yeah. Now you can do it to other people.

But wait, why didn't he- No, no, no. Why didn't he go back in the game?

Because the game was over.

Safety. I don't think the game was over.

Patriots care about player safety.

He got seen by the spotter, and then he got taken to the locker room. So he is most likely concussed. If he wasn't concussed, he would have been back in the game.

I can only go off what Christian Gonzales said, and that he's fine.

Well, no, he hasn't said anything.

That's what he said to this reporter.

That's illegal. You're not supposed to talk to reporters if you've been concussed.

No, you're not supposed to do media.

Well, then what is talking to a reporter? You can see reporters. This is all legal.

It's like when you talk to someone in the office. I can see PFT in the kitchen and be like, You're a bitch. But that's different than if I said that on the podcast, then it would be official.

How is it different?

It's on the record versus off the record.

But he talked to the reporter. Well, no, Hank, that's not off the record because then the reporter said it. I'll find it. Find it for us. So it seems to me, Hank might be right. They might have given him the concussion test, and he passed it so well that they're like, Well, this is crazy. We better get you to the locker room and get you on a plane so you can start solving scientific- It was in the locker room.

This is Zack Cox, a great Patriot's fellow. Christian Gonzales is in the locker room after the game, said he couldn't talk to the media. Typical for players who leave with a head injury, but that he feels fine. Okay, so he left with a head injury. You actually might be able to speak to the media after a head injury. Oh, so you were right.

No, no, no, no, no, Seven and a half. To play off wins, to play off wins. It's tough to come by. You got to dig deep, got to grind, especially going up against a ball club. It was good. I mean, what I was expecting all week. Shane, they did nothing.

They didn't put up really any fight. Did nothing. Yes, so Shane, how are you feeling?

I don't know if I could feel worse. That was just a pathetic, pathetic... This is just the third playoff game in a row. It just felt like the Chargers lost the game as opposed to the other team beating them. You blew the Jaguars, then Herbert throws four interceptions, and then now just the offense did nothing. Absolutely nothing. Can I read the staff for you guys? Yeah, please. In the Jim Harbaugh, Greg Roman, Justin Herbert era, they have had 22 offensive possessions. How many of those possessions have resulted in a countdown? Two playoff games.

22 offensive possessions.

We didn't score one tonight. Two.

One. One. One. One. 22 possessions.

So you got to get rid of Greg Grohman.

If there's a silver lining to come out of this game, it has to be... Harbaugh needs to clear house offensively.

Defense was good tonight. The defense actually hung in there. Yeah.

Our defense, that's what I'm really upset about is because Jesse Minter is elite defensive play collar, but he is for sure 100% getting a head coach job this year. Who knows where that's going to leave us? Harbaugh really needs to do some thinking about where this coaching staff is going to be next year because it's looking grim right now.

It does feel like you're wasting Justin Herbert.

For sure does.

What year is this for him? Six.

Yeah, he was drafted in 2020.

Year six? Yeah. I mean, it's not like he's old. No. But he's got six years under his belt, and it doesn't look any better than it did his rookie year. It looks worse. Yeah.

To put him behind that offensive line is just a travesty.

To argue in favor of the Chargers just a little bit, they did try to build up the offensive line. You can't plan for Joe Alt to go down. You can't plan for Slater to go down at the start of the season. That is some bad luck. It's almost like the Chargers, oh, shit, everything in the Chargers facility has the lightning bolt on it. They might be dealing with the electric pulses, too.

That's true. I do understand that point. But also in that Houston-Texan's game last year, that playoff game, Herbert was pressured 70 % all from the interior. And it was a famous quote in the Charger Sphere. But there's a reporter-The Charger Sphere?

Yeah.

I like that. There's a reporter, Daniel Pauper. And it was after they signed Mekai Becton. And they asked our GM, Greg Roman, Joe Hortiz. They asked Do you think you did enough to shore up this offensive line? And he said, 11 wins is pretty good. I don't know about you. Oh, no. That's what he said. So here we are again, 11 wins.

In a weird way, the more Justin Herbert looks bad in playoffs for games like this, the better he looks as a quarterback. The fact that he was able to get them there. And then you watch it tonight and you're like, This guy is special, and I feel bad for him.

Yeah. I thought he got knocked out. That one hit was so brutal.

To the sternum.

But he talked to the media after, so he couldn't have gotten knocked out.

No.

Did you see Robert's Plane's comment? What did he say? He said a Chargers player came up to him after the game and said the Chargers offense had no idea what the Patriots are doing on defense.

Because half of them never played football before.

That's a tough admission to your opponent right after the game.

Hey, do you think Justin Herbert played poorly or he has a bad offensive line? Oh, boy.

I mean, it's impossible. Justin Herbert's bad.

Okay. All right. That's exactly what I was looking for.

Drake Mays, a Herbert clone.

What? Drake Mays, a Herbert clone.

He's got more wins in the playoffs.

Oh, for sure.

Yeah. But he also has a competent offensive line where he actually had some time in the pocket and an offensive corner that can scheme receiver's open.

And he ran better.

Yeah. Well, he didn't have five people in his face in 0. 5 Five seconds?

Yeah. Hank, do you have any worries about having a run first quarterback that takes a lot of damage?

No.

Do you have any worries about having a Justin Herbert clone in the playoffs, knowing that Justin Herbert hasn't won a playoff game?

That's a good point.

We have, so I don't really- Yeah, but now that you...

This is before.

This is like, we're next gen.

But he told you he tagged you with the clone comment after you already won. Forget that game. Going forward, you're the clone.

We're the next model up. Okay.

Justin Herbert plus. Yeah.

All right.

It sucks, Shane. That was a brutal game to watch for you.

This is why I tried to temper my expectations going into this week.

You called it. Patriots got this shit.

I said they owned this shit in terms of the playoffs. And yeah, they're proving me right, I guess.

Last question, Shane, are you a little nervous that... Is there a chance Justin Herbert is like, I don't want to do this shit anymore?

I mean, I want to blame him, but I don't think there's a chance, no.

He's played six seasons in the NFL.

Yeah.

Andrew Luck played six seasons in the NFL.

I don't know what Luck's contract was looking like, but I don't think it was like 55 million a year, 60 million.

It was a lot of money. A lot of money. It was a lot of money.

Not that much, but Madison wants to have a kid. He wants to be healthy for the kids.

I don't think that's a real thing. I'm just saying it's a shame that these things are being said because Justin Herbert is getting done dirty. That's really what the point is. Yeah, for sure.

The only sad part about it is I wouldn't blame him if he wanted to do that.

I hear, though, Hank. It's like he goes to Cancun with Madison for two weeks. He's like, Do I really want to go back to my job where I just get hit in the ribs with sledgehamers 10 times a game? I could just chill. We could chill together.

Hank. All right, Shane. Thank you. Sorry.

Thank you. Sorry, Shane. Sorry.

Bolt up.

Bolt up.

Okay. That was a sad bolt up.

Hank, who do you want? Let's talk about Monday Night Football. This is the deciding game for Super Wild Card Week, and we already have it set. Saturday is going to be Bronco's Bills, Seahawks Niners. They haven't given us time. The bears, Rams are going to play Sunday. The Patriots are going to play against the Texans or the Stealers. I want the Stealers. Bad. All right, so my- Bad. Rollback question. Rhobback. Com, promo code take 20% off First Purchase, Q-Zips, Polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback. Com, promo code, take. Why do you want them bad?

This team barely made the playoffs. They snuck into the playoffs. Team of Destiny to just make into the playoffs. Aaron Rodgers is old. Mike Tomlin has not had a good year coaching. The Texans defense is better, I think, than the Steelers defense. So I want the Steelers.

So you scared of the Texans?

I'm not scared of the Texans, but you asked the question. Yeah. But you said- It's one or the other.

No, I know. I asked the question, but then you went on to say, Bad.

Well, I also Jersey Jerry, good friend, coworker, but it'd be fun to just smoke him in the playouts.

He said he wanted you.

Good. Yeah. Well, that he's scared. That's like- No, he said- He doesn't have a choice.

Well, no, this was during the game. Before the game was over. No, before the game.

No, he was saying it all.

He said, I want the Patriots. I want the Patriots.

Good. Bring It's fun.

Which made no sense because I was like, But, Jerry, you would get a home playoff game. It was also partially because he scared of the Bills. Because I was like, Jerry, if the chargers were in, you get a home playoff game. He's like, I want the Patriots bad.

Well, yeah. If the choice is the Patriots or the Bills.

I could see why he would say the Patriots. But one's home and one's away.

Yeah, but this is Josh Allen's playoff to lose. Okay.

Is it not? I do feel like we're on collision course, Patriots, Bills, AFC Championship Yeah. That's what it sounds like to me. Getting excited about that. Hank, I got a question for you about that stupid fucking lighthouse that you pretend to have. Why don't they light the light up in the lighthouse at night during games?

Because the focus should be on the field.

No, it's a lighthouse. It has one purpose. At night-We're not doing this. The light turns on. I just saw it tonight. I got pissed off.

I knew for the Netflix viewers.

I got pissed off all over.

It's not a PFT. It's actually not a real lighthouse. It's not a functional lighthouse.

Okay, thank you. Thank you for admitting that.

That's big of you to admit that. That answer your question.

That's huge. Not a real lighthouse. Hank Lockwood.

I've confirmed that. It's still my Twitter bio.

Okay, good. It just pissed me off. If you have a lighthouse, the light should be on at night.

It's not a real lighthouse.

It's the only time the light should be on.

You made a full-court press to make people admit that.

I just think it still should be on.

It's stupid. Your bio does not... What do you mean?

The K Pateris Lighthouse is the largest- That has nothing to do with you saying that it's not a real lighthouse. That was the That was the... Do you listen to this show, Max? That was the entire argument.

I'm going to wave you off.

That was the entire argument. Listen, Max, I don't know if you're doing this. Hank is right about that. We're going to treat you like you just got concussed. We're not allowed to talk to you right now. You didn't know that fact either.

The Cape Hatteras Lighthouse is shorter than the Gillette Lighthouse, but the Gillette Lighthouse is not a real lighthouse. Got it. Ipso facto, the K Pateris Lighthouse is the tallest lighthouse in the country.

I thought K Pateris was the name of the Patriots Lighthouse.

Oh, my God.

Hand up.

Yeah. They hatter us because they ain't us. Hank, I would agree with you. I think that you should want the Steelers because the Texan defense is scary. But I do think that the Texans are capable of playing Steeler football, and Steeler football can beat the Texans with experience.

It's also funny.

You don't understand that? Hold on. The The Texans are better, for sure, than the Steelers. I think anybody that's watched the NFL this season would agree that their defense is elite. Their offense has a tendency to be inconsistent, but they can't be very good. But I can see them getting into a game with Pittsburgh Steelers where they play the ugly, slow, gross Pittsburgh Steeler football way. And then the Steelers play every game like that, and they know how to win those games.

I fall.

That makes sense. While the Texas might not be the better team, I could very easily see this being a good matchup for the Steelers.

Also, it's not even just about me. I care about you guys a lot. I care about this podcast. Pft is set all season. This is the year that Aaron Rodgers gets in the Steelers' going to playoff win, and it solves the Pinky Bet. It solves the Pinky Bet. It's an unselfish decision.

I will be rooting for the Seelers on Monday night. The funny thing is, though, we're sitting talking about this game, and everyone's assuming the Texans are going to win. Well, the Texans are favorite, and everyone's assuming they're going to win because the Steelers snuck in. But if the Steelers then beat the Texans, we'll be like, Holy shit, the Steelers look good. Yeah, we will. Steelers are going to be a tough team to play. We will.

We're going to get that stat about the 23 straight home Monday night football wins that the Steelers have because this is a Monday night football production, so it's official. This counts on the record. One of their harder games that they've had on Monday Night football, although they did lose Monday evening football to the commanders back in 2020. But yeah, they're putting that streak on the long time.

You want them bad, bad, bad, bad.

Bad. Bad.

Bad. So you are scared of Texan said. You wouldn't say bad like that.

The Texans defense, the Chargers defense, like you said, they played well. They hung in this game. I think the Texans defense is way better than the Chargers defense. So yeah.

Texas offensive line is pretty bad, too. Yeah. Bad.

Bad. The Texas is a million years old.

And the Texans have those games where the offense looks broken.

I mean, historically, we own both of these teams in the playoff, so I bring either one.

There's no problem.

You could say that about just about team.

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The other game that happened, and then we'll do Who's Back of the Week, Indiana is just the best team in college football, and it's insane to watch what they to Oregon on Friday night. They're so much better than everyone right now.

The conversation has to go to, are they the best college football team ever?

Here's how you know that Indiana is so dominant It. We have now started down the path of people complaining that they're too old and that they're cheating somehow.

Yeah, the cheating once.

It's the saddest thing ever.

Well, it started because the first play from scrimage of the night, more through and out. D'angelo Pons saw the play coming, read the quarterback's eyes, stepped in front of it for Indiana, picked it off, picked six, returned to the house. Then everybody was like, it's like he knew that pass was coming. Which could mean, one, They study harder than everybody or study smarter than everyone, and then combine that with getting good players through the transfer portal, and they have experienced players. Or it could mean that Mark Cuban has hacked his way into a company that every college football team uses to upload their plays and their playbook to and then distributes it directly to the desk of Kurt Signetti, who then studies these plays, tells his team what plays are coming first, and then they use that information to win football games. I tend to think that Signetti is an awesome coach and that Indiana has great players, but the more dominant they get, and when you look at the stats behind how they're graded out with five-star recruits, how they're graded out via the portal, the players that get in the portal, the way that Indiana is overperforming both those metrics in terms of on the field production is staggering.

How much better that team is than any other team that's ever existed with, I don't even want to say similar ratings, because I think the worst national championship when you take into account the portal ratings and also the recruiting ratings was University of Michigan from a couple of years ago. And Indiana is like five times worse than that team. I see why people look at the stats and they're like, This is an outlier. I think it's an outlier, but I think that Kurt Signetti is an outlier.

Yeah, he's an incredible coach, and they're on an insane run. Fernando Mendoza has, I think it's his... How many touch-downs did he threw against Alabama? Three? I think he has now eight touch downs in the two playoff games and five incompletions. Something ridiculous. They're just... Yeah, Kurt Signetti is Is an insane coach. He's so good.

They were not going to stop until they got 50 points. Mendoza played well into the fourth quarter. I don't know if that was to scare Miami, if that was to make some statement. I don't know. But they clearly had like, We want to score 50, and then we'll call the dogs off.

Also, we might have been right. We might have been wrong about saying that we were wrong. Ohio State this year might have been better than Ohio State last year.

It could have been.

Indiana is just that good. They lost by three. If Indiana is going to be one of the best national champions we ever crown, and Ohio State only lost by three to them because their kicker stinks, maybe Ohio State was that good.

I think this Indiana team is better than last year's Indiana team. How about that? I would agree. I'll go out on that level. I would agree.

They're an absolute wagon, and they're fun to watch. That stadium was just all Indiana. It will be interesting. I think it will be all Indiana in Miami.

Which is crazy because it's in Miami. Right. Well, Indiana also has... I didn't know this. They've got the largest living alumni group in the United States. I think there's, what, 800,000 Indiana University fans, alumni that are walking around out there. They've never had to travel for meaningful football games before. They've been saving their money. So they're good to go. Miami will obviously have some people hometown. I see that part of it, but I would expect that it's going to be heavily Indiana.

Yeah, big time. Great weekend for football.

Also, for the cheating people out there that are claiming Indiana is cheating. It's so lame. Is Elijah Serrat, is he just... He's cheating, too, when we see him jump up in the air over three guys and make a catch? Is that cheating?

This is how good... You know you've gotten to this point when it's just like, Hey, you're cheating. You're too old.

It should be a badge of honor for every Hoosier fan to see the allegations that your football team is cheating. Yeah, I agree. You're that dominant. I agree.

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Who's back of the week is the Golden Globes. Yes. Golden Board material.

We got snubbed. Yeah. Bad.

Who won? Amy?

Amy Schumer. Amy Poller. We also didn't submit any of the paperwork that we needed to submit. Yeah, it's pay to play. It is pay to play. We got nominated for Golden Globe, and then they were like, Hey, if you want to potentially win a Golden Globe, you got to do all these things.

We got nominated for finalist. Yeah. Then you had to pay and submit.

The paperwork was the part-to be made the final finalist.

We might not even made it onto the award show part.

They could tell us that we're up for a Nobel Peace Prize, and if we have to fill out one piece of paper We're out. Listen-we're not doing it.

I don't know if you guys know this about the podcast, but Picks Punishment Coming Soon. Yeah. We tend to push things off. Yeah. If we're going to have to submit any formal... If we have to send an email I think, you know what? If we have to send one email, I think we could do that. If it's just like we accept the nomination.

I don't even know if we do that. We don't reply to emails all the time.

You give us ownership to a team, and we wouldn't even take it if we had to do paper.

We lost the rings.

That's true. Our What is your brain? They did also invite us out there for the awards, and we were like, No, that's okay.

This is, I think, a positive for us in terms of who we are as podcasters and what the show is built on. Because podcasts have become a little bit mainstream.

I was going to say not to diminish the Golden Gloves. Yeah, it's crazy. Or our profession, but it's a joke.

No, it's a joke. It's a joke award. Listen, we're jokes. This is a joke. This whole thing is a joke. What we're doing right now is a fucking joke. We are paid to talk shit onto a mic, and we have no formal training or anything. We're just we're idiots in front of mics, and hopefully we're a little entertaining. The fact they're giving Golden Gloves to this is a joke. It's basically All the people in Hollywood who got into podcasting that just want to suck each other off and be like, Oh, podcasting is a real thing now. Look, it's got the Golden Gloves.

We're out. The fact that they would have wanted us to buy a tuxedo and wear it to a theater so that Snoop Dogg could hand us a golden trophy for- That would have been sick. No, for podcasting is ridiculous.

We wouldn't have won. We're losing what- I know that. The whole point of podcasting is- But let's not say that that wouldn't be sick. No, the whole point- It would not be sick.

It's like how you can pay for a sports. We We could have 17 Emmys in the studio.

Well, we did. We bought them.

But we don't.

That would mean nothing. We got nothing. But that's good.

No, we had to fill out the paperwork and the tanks fall.

No, Matt, it's memes. Okay. Do you understand that The fact that podcasting is becoming this mainstream, podcasting should be a joke. It should be like dudes, girls, whatever, hanging out and bullshitting. The minute you just make it all formal in this, it's a joke. It's stupid.

It's literally the least glamorous profession you can have.

The smallest barrier of entry, and now all the Amy Pollars of the world are taking it over.

There's way too many people at this awards ceremony that have way too much sex for it to be actually a podcast or event.

That's not what podcasting is supposed to be. Podcasting is supposed to be dudes that don't fuck, but they like to talk about football. What are you going to say, Zack?

Outside of the establishment aspect, suits and Snoop Dogg, sick.

Dude, you got to stand next to Freddie Gibbs the other day. Yeah, he was on the other side of the rope, and we couldn't talk to him, but you got to see him.

Zack, you know what that room is full of?

What's up, Peefti?

Big intercourse, guys. Yeah. That's too much intercourse. Like the biggest intercourse guys in the world.

Those guys are fucking?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, sometimes not even the right things. We're out. Don't even nominate us. Unless you want to nominate us and give us the award without us having to do any paperwork, then we will send Zack. Zack in a tuxedo, and he'll have intercourse. He will fuck your hottest models. We will offer you that. We're giving you 24 hours to respond, Golden Globes. You want us to be there? We'll send Zack. He fucks the models. He gets the Golden Globe. We handshake right now. We call it a deal.

We could have been boys with Chalame.

Was he there? Chalame was there.

I like Chalame.

Chalame is cool as fuck. But he shouldn't have a podcast.

Chalame shouldn't be in a room where they're giving awards for podcasts.

Chalame, we should not- He's too cool for that. He should not want us in his room.

Chalame sitting there being like, Hey, guys, here's the number one podcast of the year. And also, how do they decide this? Because they fill out the fucking paperwork? This is stupid. You agree, right, Hank? Yeah. Chalame should have walked out. He's like, I'm Timothy Salomé. Do you think that Jack Nicholson would have sat in a room where they give off a podcast award?

The fuck no. For the Tennis Podcast.

Fuck no.

Tennis Podcast was not nominated.

See, that's bullshit.

That's how we know. That's how we know.

We go where the Tennis Podcast goes.

If they were nominated, yeah, we'd show up. We'd show up. That's another point in our crown.

You know what's my Golden Globe? Danny Boykane saying that we're a top-notch organization. That's my Golden Globe. That's all I need. But we will do this ZackSex thing if they want us to get into the Hollywood thing.

Yeah, you just point and Zack will bone that person.

Dude, what if we make Zack a Hollywood plant? That'd be sick.

Industry sex plant?

Yeah, industry sex plant. That'd be so sick. Okay.

Good Who's Back. Good Who's Back.

Sorry for the ranting.

My who's back of the week is the laundry thief. Oh, yeah, I saw this. So on Thursday night, we wrap up the show. We go home. I got home at probably 11: 30 at night. You may remember about this time last year, maybe this exact time last year, I'll have to look it up, all my laundry got stolen off my front step. It's not that I don't do laundry. I do laundry, but during playoff season, at the end of NFL season, we're at the office a lot. When I get home, just pretty much go to bed, wake up, come back to the office. That time of year, I send some laundry away. Last year, I had two duffle bags of my laundry stolen off my front porch.

You make it sound like they're going upstate for 20 years for B&E. No, I'm just saying-Send my laundry away.

Well, I send it out for somebody else to do. Yeah.

In summer, the kids aren't in school.

I'm sending my laundry out.

I got back home on Thursday night at about 11: 30. I had a notification on my phone. The laundry was dropped off at about 9: 30, 9: 45. I go to my front door, I open it up. There's no duffle bags there. There's no laundry outside. I pull up the security app, I look at the surveillance It has a screenshot of a guy that appears to have two bags of laundry skirting away from my front porch. So I'm like, Okay, I'm fucked. I step back outside onto the porch. I look down the street. I don't know why I'm looking down the street. Maybe the guy there, maybe he just stole it. I don't know. But about halfway down the block, I see these two bags in one of my neighbor's front yard. I go up to the bags. Sure enough, it's my laundry. They've been opened. Somebody stole my laundry, ran down the street, looked inside, saw my clothes, and was like, Fuck this, and threw the bags to the side, which, hey, I'm happy I got my clothes back, but it was a real gut check moment for me, real look in the mirror to be like, My clothes are so hideous that not even a thief wants to steal them.

Which maybe I've hacked safety. Maybe I've hacked taking care of my valuable things. There were a lot of jumpsuits in it, too. There There were a lot of weird jumpsuits. My laundry is not everybody's laundry. I'm glad I got it back, but it was a humbling moment to walk back into my house with my unstealable bags of laundry.

That was nice of them. You know what? Maybe they were just like, Hey, this guy's got so much swag. I can't pull it off.

Yeah, maybe he was intimidated. Maybe he was like, Yeah, I can't wear this shirt with all of the NFL team's logos stitched onto it. I can't wear this tracksuit that has- Maybe he thought it was like a kid's clothes.

He was like, I can't do this with the kids.

Hank, you made that same joke last year. Yeah, well, it still plays. Come on, buddy. That's why we're not getting Golden Globes. We're rehashing material, Hank. Bitch.

You literally did the same thing with the Lighthouse like 20 minutes ago.

Well, I got repissed off about the Lighthouse.

Play the hits.

I got repissed off.

Play the hits. Okay, by Who's Back in the Week is this is going to be niche college basketball because Wisconsin beat Michigan on Saturday, and Michigan was undefeated, number two in the country, and seemingly the best team by far, and it was awesome. I always watched college basketball. I love watching college basketball, but it was a very fun win. Also, Alex Bregman, because he's a cub for five years, which is sick.

I did like how Wisconsin told Bill Raftery Onions after the game. That was pretty cool. It was a great ending to the game. It was like edge of your seat stuff. It was a good college basketball game. I typically don't pay much attention at all to college basketball until the NFL season is over. Then I do a crash course on it. But on the weekends, I watch a few games, and that was a good win for the bad guys. It was crazy. I don't know. You think it's going to be enough if they end up with a decent record? That's a crown jewel win.

If they had not won this game, I would have said that it was going to be very hard for them to make the tournament because they did not have... They've struggled early in the season. Lost to Vilanova, didn't do great, got killed by BIO, but this is a big one. So if they can win the games they're supposed to win and maybe pick up one or two more of these know, Hey, we were underdogs, and it's a ranked team. I just want to be in the tournament. Just not being in the tournament is the worst. Let's get to the dance. And Bregman to the Cubs. It's awesome. I wanted Rickets to make a move like this for a long time, and he finally did. And now I feel very confident. They added Cabrera, they added Bregman. Basically, where I'm at with the Cubs is I think that they're getting good enough to potentially win two games against the Dodgers in the NLCS. And that would be awesome.

That'd be massive, right? Yeah. If you can win two games against the Dodgers.

Against the Dodgers in the NLCS.

Then you're playing October baseball.

That's deep October.

Probably get a Thursday night. That'd be sick.

That's so sick. So, yeah, Two wins against the Dodgers. I mean, the Dodgers are so good. But I'm happy they're trying. Yeah. It's fun. And Bregman's the man.

What do you think about that, Hank?

I mean, the Red Sox ownership is a joke.

We said this, but yeah, the others don't care, right?

They don't care. They're not trying to win. They're just trying to maximize profits. Yeah. That's sad.

They thought they were going to get them. I saw a report. I think it was a Buster only. They said they're very disappointed. They thought that they had a shot.

Yeah, they're offering them like 3 million less a year or something, but they can afford them. They just chose not to get him.

Bregman will come hang out at the office. Yeah. He's a man. I'm in a fantasy league with him.

Recurring guest.

Recurring guest. Yeah, he'll come hang. I shouldn't have grabbed Pete Crosstrom that hard. Also, RIP, Bob Weer. Love Bob Weer. Passed away on Saturday. It was crazy. It was three minutes before we went to our seats. Yeah, I have very... Grateful Dead is my favorite band. He's given me a lifetime of great moments seeing him live countless times, whether it be Dead in Company or Rat Dog. I'm sad about it. So shout out, Bob Weer. Thank you for everything. Music never stops. Zack, finish us off.

My Who's Back of the Week, maybe a little specific. It's going to be Good Omens, boys. Specifically, NBA-centric Good Omens. New York Knicks. Before yesterday, one in five, last five games. The omen pops up in the flesh.

Wait, is anyone listening to Zack except me?

I'm hearing.

One in five in the last five games?

Yeah.

One win in the last five games. Okay, got it. I may have said that incorrectly.

One in five, that was grammatical error.

I was letting you cook.

That's on me. Sorry. My bad.

No, all good. I should have said it the right way. I said the complete wrong way.

I didn't mean to step on you. I just was confused. One in five in the last five games is like that, six games.

No, that's super valid. I shouldn't have spun you for a confusion.

All right, let's start again.

But once the omen showed up in the flesh, there was a double nick fan, Spike Lee siding yesterday. He's now undefeated.

Yeah.

So post Omen, Nicks don't lose.

You saw Spike Lee?

In the flesh, yeah. Confirmed he's real. That's good for the team.

We're going to just path to victory. Were nervous that he was not real?

You don't know if it's true until you see it sometimes.

Oh, so you're one of those dinosaurs aren't real because we never saw him?

Who was that?

The way dinosaurs are- Was that Milton Bradley or Carl Everett? Carl Everett.

I think with the dinosaur or bones, we assume their alignment. So I think the dinosaurs, how we know them, are not real. Got it. They're a different variant.

Are they feathers?

I'm pretty sure we decide where all the bones went, so we made up what they looked like.

Okay. That's true. No, that's actually 100% true.

You mean when you find the bones, you decide how to put them together?

We just assumed how the skeletons go together once the architect, not architect, archeologist.

Archeologist.

Archeologist dug them out the ground, so they might not look anything like what we think they look like.

Don't you think they... I guess.

I think I saw that on a pretty decent... I was thinking History channel.

Oh, History channel. Okay. But Wouldn't that... Don't the bones make... We know how bones work. We know how our bones work. If you see a bunch of dinosaur bones, wouldn't they be able to somewhat figure out?

That's what I'm saying. I think we have bits and pieces. I think we're guessing a lot on where things... And maybe also making up some bones or joints to complete a picture, we don't actually know what may look like.

Yeah. And have you ever thought about how we'd have all the bones, but when you see pictures of dinosaurs, nobody knows what the outside of their skin looked like. Definitely. What if they were all furry? What color were they? Yeah, what if they had hair?

What if they all rug?

You think T-rex's arms, they're that big and the arms are really this tiny?

What if their bodies were made out of pillows?

Or a super amount of feathers, it could be the case.

What if they were wearing Guardian caps?

That's smart brain management. Yeah.

So the Knicks are now 1-0 in their last two games after you met Spike Lee.

They're 1-0 through one post-Spike.

Okay. Spike Lee is the number one desired white whale guest a part of my take per Rico Bosco. That's his top selection for it.

They're two and five in the last five?

Two and five in the last five. No, they're not two and five in the last five.

That was where we got-They're two out of five?

They're two out of last six confirmed wins.

Got it. Confirmed. So they're two and four? It would be-Are they two and four in their last six or are they two and six in their last eight.

In the previous bad math, they were two and six.

They were two and six in their last eight?

No, in the previous miscorrected way to say it, two and six. But it's actually we've won two of the last six games.

Got it.

So you're two and four?

Post-omen, we're up.

There's too many numbers before numbers.

You have two and four in your last five.

We're up.

Okay. Confirmed. Nice. There's a path to victory. It's very funny seeing Spike Lee rocking the Jordan brand. Yeah. Like memes. Can you imagine being When you're 60 years old, you're wearing TB12 merch?

No.

Yeah. It's crazy. Do people do that? No. I'm still Spike Lee wearing Jordan, the Jordan logo.

He's a Jordan athlete because he's got the spizike. So he's got his own model.

Which is crazy. How Jordan just stole all the hopes, dreams, and chance of being a champion from Spike Lee in the '90s. Should I have done that? I was like, Yeah, I'll put you right over my heart, Jordan.

Good show, boys. Great show. We got more playoff football. We're going to talk about it all week. Monday night football. Official prediction for tomorrow night?

I think Stealers 17, Texans 13.

I think it's going to be Texans 21, Stealers 17. I think the Texans, unfortunately, are going to win. Texans, 24, nothing. What?

Steelers 3, Texan zero.

Wow. Oh, memes. What's up? One more question. How do you feel about the Jets draft choice after Friday night's game?

I think The media put a lot of pressure on that young man before the biggest game of his career. Who? Dante Moore.

And pressure got to him.

The guy didn't have to make a decision at any time. He didn't know what his decision was. But he's going to be good in the NFL.

And if he goes back to college, that would make a lot of sense.

Were you a little upset online because everyone was making the same joke like, Dante Moore is perfect for the Jets? No. I mean, that's just low-hanging fruit. Jets are the most popular team, and it's Wild Card Weekend. Right. Everyone's talking about the Jets.

Rent-free. It's the 3-14 Jets, and they're owning the meter.

Devante Adams is talking about them.

Aaron Rodgers won't stop talking about them. I get it. They've been the top of my head.

That was funny when Aaron Rodgers was like, Yeah, there's no leaks, and there's no outside noise when he went on McAfee every single week. Every week. And the one year he does do it, it's when he's on the stealers. Yeah. Well, that- And he's texting with the stealers. That actually is... Now, that- Presidi, fuck you. That is correct. That that goes against the Jets as an organization. Him not doing it on the Steelers shows that the Stealers are like, Yeah, we're not letting you do this. We're here to play football, whereas the Jets are like, Oh, yeah, do whatever you want.

Yeah. Do you have a wishlist of players that we can bring in for you? Sure, we'll do that. Stealers didn't do that. Wishlist never happened. I think the wishlist happened, Mims. Are you sure?

It didn't happen. That's what Rossini told us. Wroncini. Okay. Wroncini.

What's the right Sini? I don't know. Wroncini.

Oh, you're calling her Diana Wroncini. Diana Wroncini. Okay, that's good.

You got to take your hat off. That's good. Yeah. Thank you.

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