Transcript of NFL Divisional Round With Kyle Long, Electric Substations With Peter Cowan, Divisional Round Picks & Preview, Harbaugh To The Giants + Fyre Fest

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His tweet went viral last week about the substation next to the 49ers facility. So we get to the bottom of that. How much of that is real? How much do we have to worry about it? And also a lot of in and.

Out talk, a lot of fast food.

Lot of fast food talk with him. We're going to do fire Fest. We're going to talk coaching changes and we're going to get you ready for the third to last weekend in the NFL season. So embrace it. And it's all brought to you by our friends at Game Time. The Game Time app gives the advantage back to fans. It's the hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in just a few Taps. It's incredibly easy to use and Game Time guarantee means you can Trust you'll get 100%1 authentic tickets on time and at the best price. Plus fees are always included. So what you see is what you pay. Hank, what are we looking at?

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Part in my take. Welcome to part in my take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, January 16th, and John Harbaugh, you're a New York Giant.

Congratulations, John. They didn't let you out of the building. You got kidnapped. You're their guy. You wanted them. They brought in the heavy hitters. At the end, it was pretty clear that Harbaugh wanted the opportunity to coach a hot, young quarterback. And James Winston's got his guy now.

Yeah. This was, I mean, this is a smart move. I, I, I like this move. For the Giants, it feels like they needed stability. They've gone through how many coaches? Six coaches, I think since. It's since Tom Coughlin.

Kennedy.

All right, so we got Dable. Yep. We got McAdoo.

Yep.

We got Joe Judge. We got. Oh, man. Oh, man. Was, Was Spagnolo in there?

Spags.

Yeah. Spags who?

There's one everybody forgets. Oh, you can't forget this guy. Big cat.

Who am I forgetting?

Pat Shermer.

Oh, Pat Shermer.

Pat Shermer.

And who is the sixth?

Are we counting Kafka?

Kafka. I don't think. I don't think he counts, technically. Let's see New York Giants head coaches. We're going to find it right now.

Shermer is the big one, though.

Shermer is the big one that everyone forgets. He's a perfect guy to forget. Very forgettable.

Guy overall also coach of the Browns at one point.

Yeah. Yeah. All right, so it went Coughlin, McAdoo, Spags, Shermer, Joe Judge, Brian Dable, Mike Kafka. Yep. So it was just. It was just Shermer that I forgot. A very forgettable 9 and 23. Yeah.

I feel like this is a great hire for them.

I do, too.

He's. He's stable. They want a guy that's going to come in, that's going to just be able to oversee everything and they don't have to worry about answering questions about his job in two years. Yep. And Harbaugh is that guy, and he had his pick of the litter. So I'm assuming that they worked out whatever situation it was with Joe Shane that was making some people uncomfortable. But I feel like if. If Harbaugh goes back to them in a year and is like, hey, I can't work with this guy anymore, they're going to listen to Harbaugh over Shane, right?

Yeah. They're giving him five years. Reported $100 million. So that's a nice paycheck. Also, Harbaugh, I believe, will get some of the best coordinators because he will attract that. There's stability. It feels like Harbaugh, you're hiring him, you're not going to fire him in three years, even if it takes a little bit of time to get things going. The Giants have been in hell when it comes to coaching and everything that's going on. They've basically had a couple, like, flash in the pans where, you know, remember Brian Dable went to the playoffs his first year. Mac, did McAdoo go to the playoffs?

I think he went to the playoffs.

He might have gone to the playoffs. So it's like they just been in this revolving door of, like, a coach doing okay for a year and then just falling flat on their face. And now you get John Harbaugh, who is going to be a good coach, little stability to the organization.

And the. The knock against Harbaugh is sometimes in the playoffs, he forgets to run, run the football.

Yep.

I don't think that Cam Scatter Boo in a playoff game would ever let you forget to run the football.

He's gonna steal the football from Jackson.

Scatter Boo is going to be like, screaming at you in your face. It could be like tugging on your pants, like, hey, come on, come on. Run the football. Run the football. Yeah, give me the ball.

Also, shout out Jackson dart. He went public with his relationship. Very nice, fine young lady that he's dating.

Good for him. Good for him.

Followed.

Did you see? I, I grocked. I grocked last night.

You groked.

I grocked so hard. I might be just a, I might be a grock guy.

Did you grok around the clock?

Well, this is what I've noticed and, and we've seen this over the last few years. The Photoshops of new coaches and new players, they, they drop so early. Y, they drop immediately. Now you used to have to wait and then this is one of those things where Schefter would put out the news and then the replies would be filled with people that did their own Photoshops and then he would, he would take one of them, be like, yeah, here's first look. But it's changed where now Schefter has a full time Photoshop guy. So immediately as he breaks the news last night he had an image of John Harbaugh standing side by side with Jackson Dart and they had Harbaugh in like the throwback giant skier and then Jackson Dart standing next to him. And I replied, I said, add Jameis Winston's face on Jackson Dart and Grok within seconds because he's hard working and he's always there. He's like your best friend. Replied with a perfect Photoshop of Jameis Winston over Jackson Dart. I don't know if you guys have seen that. No, you see this one?

I see it.

I'm amazed. Listen, the future is now, Grok. We're living in it.

Yeah, I, I, I said last week I, I block rock and made my experience online significantly better.

Oh, not mine. Grock is the man.

Significantly. He's my boy. You do.

You do unhinged mode.

People ask me, you want to laugh? I'm telling you to undress. Women online was starting to get a little weird.

Yeah, now that's not weird at all. I think that Grock, you know, that's the future.

Maybe you're afraid of the find it for us. Are you guys doing anything back there? Okay, send it to us. I would like to see this Grok. Yeah, they're just frozen.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was on the base screen.

You're not.

We're not just looking.

What are we doing today, boys? Are we, are we going to find the Jameis Winston on Jackson Darter? No, I'd like to see it. I want to see it in the big, big screen. Okay.

Look at this. Look how good the technology is.

Oh, wow. Oh, I did. See, Keep scrolling. Do you remember scrolling past this last night?

It's perfect. Oh, Keep scrolling, boys.

Scrolling. What's going on back there? Do we have a problem? No problem. Do we have a. Do we have a divisional round issue?

There it is.

Jackson Dart. There it is.

Look at that.

Open that up. I want to see it big. Make it big for me.

Make it big.

There is Jameis Winston as Jackson Dart.

That's. That's quite. Quite the picture. So good for the Giants.

One.

One job done. One job. We. We.

We.

I think we're done with firings. Although the Matt LaFleur situation, I don't know where it's at.

They're.

They're discussing. They got to figure it out.

I think he's probably sticking around.

I think he's sticking around, too. The problem is they have to. For him to stick around, they got to give him an extension. And I think Matt LaFleur probably wisely, is saying, hey, if you guys don't want me here, that's fine. I'll go get a job tomorrow. Which he would. So they have to pay him what his market is.

Yeah, yeah.

It's a big money.

I think he's going to get a raise. And I think that. I think Sean McDermott is probably safe depending on if they lose. How heartbreaking the loss is. Yeah. If it's like super heartbreaking, even if it's a close game, I almost feel like they might still move on. Because coaches like that, if they accumulate enough of those sad losses, it just kind of stays with them for a while.

Yeah.

And it changes who they are.

We also had an update of the. The resigning of Mike Tomlin. So there was a good article, I think it was on the Athletic, where talk to players in the room and some of the quotes. When Mike Tomlin met with the players, he surprised them. So he. It was not a firing. No one's. No one's. Like, it just was not a firing. It was a very smart move for Mike Tomlin. He said that. I think it's best for the organization for me to step down. Aaron Rodgers, sobbing, said, I'm sorry. While TJ Watt had tears welling down his eyes and kept repeating, no, no, no. As Tomlin told the team. Guys love Tomlin. The guys. And I think maybe we didn't do the. You know, we got the news right away when we were recording on Tuesday. Mike Tomlin deserves a little bit more credit than we probably gave him, you know, because it hasn't gone well for the end of his reign in Pittsburgh. But to put it into perspective, he also has kept a team that has not Been good, competitive. He went in the last. Since 2020. Mike Tomlin went 60 and 40 in the NFL.

60, 40, and 1. And his quarterbacks were an old Ben Roethlisberger, Kenny Pickett is a rookie Russell Wilson, and an old Aaron Rodgers. Like, the guy can coach the hell out of a football team and get the most out of him. It wasn't enough to win playoff games, but I think that the Steelers might go into a dark phase here where they're going to probably have to lose a little bit and they're going to realize, yeah, actually, Mike Tomlin was keeping this thing together better than we all thought.

That's kind of what we're saying with it, with his playoff. Right. He gets in the playoffs, and then he's overmatched once he gets there.

Right.

And it's really a testament to how good the team was, how much he got out of the team to even have a winning record and potentially even win that division.

Yep.

It is a testament to me he's a very good coach. And I think that if he. If he found a. A second spot that made him feel at home, it could be like an. Maybe not an Andy Reid thing, but Andy Reid didn't even win a Super bowl until he got to Kansas City. And then now we think of Andy Reid as being a Chiefs coach.

Yeah.

And if Mike Tomlin, if he wants to, he'll be able to get back into coaching. If he goes to a good spot. I think we could see like a second half of his coaching career that's just as good as his first.

Yeah. The. So we were talking about how it's crazy, you know, since 1969, that's when they hired Chuck Noel, it's been three coaches, and everyone's been throwing out stats and numbers, and if you know the answer to this, don't answer it, but everyone else can guess. So the one that was shocking was. It's not so shocking. They're like, all right, since the last time, there's been three coaches in that timeframe, there's been 10 U.S. presidents. I think it was six popes. How many Cleveland Brown coaches since 1960?

1969.

I don't think it's counting interims.

Okay. I'm going to guess 30.

Okay. So you went over. It's 21. Still crazy.

Yeah.

That se seven times the amount of coaches in Pittsburgh in that time frame.

Yeah.

Three coaches is crazy for that.

Yeah. I mean, the. The Steelers are a very stable organization. They don't rock the boat. They make great hires and they got to get it right on this next one.

They got to get.

I don't know if they're going to go back to the. The same well of find the next upand cominging guy or if they're going to go with somebody because that is a crapshoot if you think that you've got the next guy. And if you're wrong, then it could change everything that we know. But what if the Steelers fired like if, if the next guy is just terrible in his first season, are we gonna say is this guy in the hot seat?

Yeah.

Or because of the Steelers?

No.

Is he automatically going to get. Automatically 5 years to prove himself?

Yeah, he's. They're gonna find a 34 year old defensive coordinator because that was, that was Bill Cower. That was Mike Tomlin.

Yeah.

So I don't know. I think Chris Shula. How old is Chris Shula? I think he interviewed. We also have. Chris Shula is 39 years old. Too old.

Yep.

Too old. Sorry. Chris Shula. Do we have any other national sports podcast news before we dive into the games? Anything going on?

Yeah, kind of.

Okay.

I've just been a huge fan of the, the one point slam. I don't know if you guys have seen this. What it's. It's like in, it's promoting the Australian Open. So the Australian Open is coming up.

Okay.

This is leading up to it. It has a bunch of pros and a bunch of like amateurs like fans have won entry into it. And it's a, I think 64 person bracket.

Okay.

Games. It's basically Roan's one on one to.

One, one point slam.

One point slam. So like Sinner lost because he double faulted. Oh, and a guy. So a guy like beat advanced against Yannick Sinner.

That's kind of awesome.

In the one point. Same winner wins like a million bucks when 64 people.

Are they all professional tennis players?

No, it's a mix. It's like, like they have, they have like fans. Like there was like, you know, like.

Bill Ackman could win.

Yeah, there's.

There's celebrities. There's some like celebrity. They're like not. I don't know. That said they're celebrities. I didn't recognize their names, but. Oh, I love it.

You love it. You're 10.

Well, you're a tennis guy.

I'm not, but I'm. I mean I, I'm more a fan of their podcast, but like the, this, this has me interested.

You're. You're a fuss head. You're you're an.

It is. It is weird having the. You know, we're in the mid January, and we're. We're deep into the NFL playoffs, and it's like tennis season is starting and golf season starting. Aren't they playing Hawaii?

Yeah. I did see some news with Rory where Rory's playing cavity backs.

Yep.

And so people are talking about. I don't. Hank will have to.

What is that?

Well, Hank's our golf guy, and he's our cavity guy, so what. What are cavity backs? Hank, you want to save that for Fire Fest? And how's your tooth there?

Yeah, I'll talk about the tooth in Firefest. Okay. Cavity backs are just the clubs that we hit.

Oh, they're the forgiving ones.

Yes. They're bigger backs. Whereas, like, you know, forever. It's like, pros play blades because they're more precise, and if you can hit it more precise, like, you get more out of it.

Yeah.

Whereas Rory, who is one of the best golfers in the world, is saying, I want more forgiveness. So it kind of is. Like, then who should be using blades?

I've always wondered that. Like, why not just use the easy clubs? Is it. Do you get that much more touch with a.

With a blade, more control? I mean, I don't know.

Or is it just like, you say.

That cavity backs, but.

Because I have a theory about blades. My theory has always just been that they don't do anything, that they make it harder to play golf. And so if you master playing with blades, then you just feel better about yourself because you're like, yeah, I can hit a blade good.

That's probably true. And if you can hit a blade good, then you can hit anything good.

Yeah.

I don't know what we're talking about, but it. Cavity back seem cool. And blades also seem cool.

Rory's using the easy clubs that everybody uses.

Why is he using them?

He wants more forgiveness because they're easier in.

The whole concept of the hard clubs, I think, has been bullshit.

Got it. Okay. So golf is back.

Yeah.

The other two stories I had was, Clayton Kershaw is going to pitch in the World Baseball Classic as a insurance for. So he's not retired.

Yeah.

That was quick.

Yeah.

He needs insurance.

No, he's like, insurance. No, he doesn't. He's probably not going to pitch, but he's going to be on the roster. Oh, yeah.

I thought it was like, he wants, like, insurance versus family or something.

Yeah, I think he's good with that.

Yeah.

I. That would be very funny.

Like, Phil Rivers, it sounds like he just wants to hang out with boys.

Yeah.

Which.

Yes. Why wouldn't you do that? Yeah, just hang out with the boys. And then the other news. Pft. I gotta say, you guys nailed that stadium. Thank you. So sick.

I want to fuck it. I'm actually scratch. I'm going to fuck it, dude. Like the.

The. What's going on right now with stadiums, because I, you know, we've seen renderings, like the Browns renderings and the Bears renderings look like it was the same person who just like, slapped a Browns logo on it. This is different. This looks like, you know when they have. When there's like a CVS or a Starbucks that they're like, you have to make it fit the neighborhood.

Yeah.

That's what they did with this stadium. It fits. Washington, D.C. it looks awesome.

That's what the idea was. And also, this looks so much cooler, the fact that it is in D.C. yeah. If this was stuck out in Landover, Maryland, where the site of FedEx field/northwest Federal Credit Union Field is, it wouldn't look nearly as cool. No, but having this stadium near the downtown area of the city that it's in is. It's a powerful thing. It makes you feel things that you don't feel, which is stuck out in the suburbs. And yeah, the outside design, the columns look awesome. It kind of gives the same vibe as, like, the memorials that are set up around the.

It's very cool.

The title base in there and the. The glass ceiling. I like that. The. It's like a fake enclosure so you can see out of it. I don't know if that's going to be tinted or what. How. How that's going to work out, but it looks amazing. And yeah, it's a far, far cry from the old renderings that Dan Snyder used to put out where we'd have the moat around the stadium.

Yeah.

With people surfing on it.

There's the moat.

Dan was just like. I think he was. He got sued again for sexual harassment. He. He called up the architecture firm in the middle of the night, was just like, hey, can you just sketch me out somebody that's surfing outside the stadium so I can get people off my case for a little bit?

Throw a mode in there.

But this stadium. This stadium is awesome. I can't wait for it to open up in 2030 and we have a race.

What is there a race between?

Oh, Bears are never going to stadium. Race.

Yeah.

Bears are a joke. They went. They took Roger Goodell to Indiana. They're Just using Indiana to try to get Illinois to build a stadium. I also had the idea. I don't know if this is.

Don't they have to do something though?

No, they don't. That's the thing, they don't. They want to because it's a lot more money. They don't own Soldier Field. That's the whole problem.

But they're never going to.

They're never going to own social media. It's owned by.

They're never going to do anything. I thought it was like.

No, they're, they're.

When we moved, it was like.

I thought it was like something.

Yes, things are coming.

Yes. And Illinois is not going to pay for it. And now they're trying to get Indiana to pay for it. To make Illinois pay for it.

It's exactly what happened.

It would be hilarious.

The last 10 years in D.C. we went through the same thing where it was like trying to pit Maryland against Virginia. And then, oh, we'll go to Richmond. Oh, we'll go to D.C. we'll get them involved. And every time you say it's done, it's not done. Right now, this stadium, just looking at it max, I think that this stadium is worth three wins a year. Yeah. The stadium alone.

No, that's. That's an awesome looking stadium. That drive in over the water looks like it's going to be. It looks like it's one of those things from like an animated movie where they just try and build like the biggest like sporting event in the world. And it's like, it seems, it seems fake. Yeah, it looks like where the monsters. Yes, yes. Perfect example. Yeah.

See all those columns that go around the outside of the stadium? My idea was what if you turned each one of those on the inside, it's a statue of a president and so the presidents are all watching the game. They're all watching the game together.

Oh, that's nice.

I think.

Is that the only way to get in?

Which way to the top?

No.

Oh, that one. The one highway.

Yeah.

No, there's gonna be.

Okay, good. There's gonna say, that's a nightmare.

Yeah.

But that does look cool.

There's gonna be other roads. Yeah.

How it looks in this picture is cool. Yes, very cool. But if that was the only way to get in and out, that feels like it would take forever.

Now the subway goes right there, which is great. And the, the dome on top, the glass ceiling that it's got is awesome. I love the look of it. And apparently they're designing it to make it the Loudest stadium in the NFL because it's going to be bouncing off that last stop.

Hell yeah.

I feel like. Yeah, you better beat us now.

Yeah.

Better get your wins out because this stadium is out for blood.

No, what, what? I, I was thinking about more after going to the game on Saturday and like, being like, football should be played outdoors. And then I'm going again on Sundays. Like, football should be played outdoors. I wonder if the NFL would allow the Bears to build a new stadium but for anytime there's bad weather, they can play at Soldier Field. Still, they should have two stadiums. That'd be sick. Huh?

I like that.

Or like, yeah, we're gonna put. Oh, it's zero degrees. Yeah, we're playing outside.

What about.

It's like a retractable roof with two stadiums. So you would only play inside with good weather, you'd play inside? Yeah, like, like you'd wait till it's bare weather and then you'd go outside. So why wouldn't you just make an out? Listen, it was a half baked idea. Just go with me. I think it'd be cool to be like, hey, like, do a big announcement. Like, and we're playing at Soldier Field this weekend.

But if you had the retractable roof, why wouldn't. Could you just open it up again?

It's a half baked idea.

No, no, I'm agreeing.

I don't really, I haven't really thought it through.

I'm agreeing with you. I'm saying, like, if you had the retractable roof, could you open it up for bad weather?

Yes, that would be cool. But I also would like to just be like, we're like, it's. Doesn't, doesn't Yukon play in two places?

A lot of college basketball players.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. St. John's right. So you're like, yeah, we got the, with the old place. We're going to take you to the Terror Dome. Yeah, yeah. I don't think they're going to do that, but it would be sick.

I love snow football. Yeah, I love watching it. I don't think I've ever been to a snow football game with any sort of like playoff implication though. But it seems like that, that's the ultimate equalizer, though. Like, things should be a little bit different. You should be able to build a team in the image of your city.

Right. And it's also just, it just bummed me out to think more and more about like the, the idea that the entire NFC north would be domed except for the packers and they would have that over everyone.

Yeah. And they'd talk about it.

Yeah, they would talk about it all. So we got to keep both. Keep both. Okay. Should we get to the games?

Yeah, let's do it.

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Okay, boys. Saturday, Buffalo Bills going to the Denver Broncos. The current line is the Broncos minus one and a half. The over under is 45 and a half. This is really just a test of Josh Allen because I do think the Broncos are the better team, but Josh Allen.

That's what we said about the Jaguars, too.

Josh.

Josh Allen. The battle of the Sean's. This weekend, we've got Sean McVeigh, Sean McDermott. Sean, or, sorry, Sean Payton and Sean McDermott in this game. Sean Payton just addressed the. The Denver crowd in a press conference. I saw that helpfully educated them on when they're supposed to cheer, when they're supposed to be loud. He said, don't use all of your. All of your volume for when they're getting up to the line of scrimmage. Use it instead when they're getting to the huddle.

Yes.

And that will disrupt the more. The Bills could counteract that by just going no huddle. And then the entire crowd would be waiting for them to huddle and confused and probably not make as much noise. Sean, kind of. It's very unlike him to give away a strategic weakness like that.

Yeah, I think that's a. Yeah. I mean, he, they could just keep going. Being like, we know what you're going to do.

Yeah.

And we're not going to huddle.

I agree that, like, you know, it's not groundbreaking analysis that Josh Allen is a superhuman and that he can overcome pretty much any weakness that his team has offensively. As long as he's got, you know, a good offensive line protect, which he does, he should be able to make something happen. And as we talked about with Andrew Whitworth, it's like the Broncos have great cornerbacks. Yep. The Bills don't have any wide receivers.

Yeah. Patrick Surtan erases your wide receiver 1. The counter move for the Bills is don't have a wide receiver one.

Yeah. This is asymmetric warfare. And it's like you spend all this money on your cornerbacks, but guess what? They're going to be covering like a number four wide receiver. Curtis Samuel might play this weekend.

Yeah, I saw that. I, I, Yeah. I don't really know how the Bills are going to do it because they just don't have anyone in wide receiver. They're going to have to try to run the ball. The Broncos defense, really good. I think the path to victory for the Bills is keep the game close and hope Josh Allen has the ball. Slash. Hope Bo Nix. Who? Bo Nix has had moments where he's looked awesome this year. He's also had moments where it hasn't looked great. And you're just hoping that you get the not great Bo Nix if you're the Bills. But I. Mile high playoff football. There's something about it that it is such a home field advantage. You know, up in the altitude and that crowd is always rocking. It's always sunny. I love watching football in Denver.

It's going to be great. I. I don't know who Josh's wife is going to be cheering for.

Oh, you. Well, she. So she's. She's an actress, right?

She's not a great actress.

Yeah. Because the Seahawks also, she did like a show in Seattle and she had a Seahawks jersey on as well.

I think this was a post from 2016.

Yeah.

Where she's hitting the dab.

Yeah. So she's she has. She's worn a bunch of different jerseys. This is. Man. Do you guys think Josh can do it? Yeah. Hank, you think again. You think it's going to be Bill's Patriots?

I do, yeah.

You 100% too.

I want it to be Bill's Patriots.

What if Bonix is just awesome? It's Josh Allen, but what if Bo.

Nix is Josh Allen?

Do you think Sean Payton did the money and Lombardi thing that he did with the Saints where he. When the Saints won the super bowl before the playoffs started, he just had a pile of money in a Lombardi and he put it on the table and he said.

I gotta know what Sean Payton did, because he definitely did something. There's some weird motivational trick that he's currently pulling on his team at the moment. Whether it's what he showed him. Showed the Saints, like, videos of animals being slaughtered. One year. One year he left a bunch of rat traps in their lockers and showed them, like videos of rats walking into traps and getting their neck snapped off.

Yep.

He's doing some crazy shit right now that we don't know about.

He definitely is. It is Josh Allen, Hank. Bo Nicks. Denver's offensive line is unbelievable. They've. They. They are tied with the Rams for allowing the fewest sacks in the NFL this year with just 23 times. That's also Bonix being able to run around and extend plays. I just have in my head that, like, what if this is just Bonix? You know, it's here. Okay, so here's here. This is dumb analysis. Ready for dumb analysis. Yeah. Who's ready for dumb analysis? Okay. 2024 draft. Jaden Daniels last year, that was his year. Incredible season, goes the NFC Championship game. Wows the. Wows the world.

What a run.

Drake May has.

You.

What?

No, I like that. Just you.

Yeah, him.

You could have made the. You. You could have made the first comment. Wow, there's a world. Yep.

I was.

I was fine with that one.

I was being.

I know, I know.

Then Hank.

Hank starts to lay it on thick. I got some for you, buddy. Oh, yeah.

Got some for you.

You don't do anything yourself.

Okay, you see these up here?

Okay.

See these cans of Coke that I got behind me?

Drink?

Yeah. Well, Max got in here, bit through the bottom like a. Like a mouse.

Okay. So follow me. Jade Daniels last year, incredible season, goes the NFC Championship game. Top five quarterback going into this season. Stop.

Hank.

Yep.

Would you like to say anything?

No, I wouldn't.

Okay.

Drake May has an MVP season this Year.

Right.

Second mvp, whatever.

He has an incredible year.

Yeah, very good year.

Caleb Williams has a year where he's progressed. He has a, a quintessential like etched in stone moment with the 4th and 8 to Roma Dun beating the Packers. All this stuff.

Mr. Clutch.

Is it Bo Nix's time we've had all three of these guys have their splash moments. Is it Bo Nick's time to say hey you Forgot about B Knicks 9. Just thinking about it.

Nines had his moments.

9 had yeah. Broke his hand.

Yep. Michael Penck, he's there still alive.

He beat the Bills.

He's in the Monday of football.

He's right. I'm just saying. No, but we're going down the line like the Bo Nix. Right. We forgot about Bo Nix. If we're going to have this be the 2024 draft, be like an all time QB draft, it's bo Nix's time. He's got to show time for him to make his moment.

But I feel like this is, this is more set up to be Josh's moment.

I agree. I'm just saying the of the four so take Michael Penix and JJ McCarthy out because they're injured and all that stuff. Of those four guys. Those are the four. Was Bonix pick fourth? He was right? Yes. Of the first four QBs drafted in the 2024. Oh, he wasn't memes who was? Who was before? I think Penix was at 9. Right. Oh was he? I thought for some reason. Oh maybe you're right. No, no. Yeah, you're right. All right, so whatever. Pennix and J.J. mcCarthy out. Yeah, that's right. Bonix was actually the sixth. The other three have won a playoff game. Bonix is time again dumb analysis but this is just. I go, I'm going vibes, I'm going to bet the Bills but I'm just going vibes I'm giving the Broncos something like this could be it. Yeah.

I mean the Broncos are the better team.

Yeah.

But they also the Broncos, their problem is they play bad games against bad teams.

Right.

For the most part. The Jaguars walked in there and pretty much had their way with the Broncos at times. But overall it's the really bad teams that the Broncos look the worst again and Sean Payton is a very good coach in the playoffs especially coming off a buy like this. I think he's 40 with extra rest in the playoffs.

Yep.

So he's going to have him prepared. They know what to do against that Bills defense that certainly has its weaknesses like they can't Stop the run at all?

Nope.

I think Bo Nicks, if I'm, if I'm putting together a blueprint for how the Broncos win this game, I think Bo Nix is going to run the ball a lot. Yeah. I think he's going to use his feet now.

I'm going to take him to score a touchdown.

I think he will. I'm going to bet on him to score a touchdown as well. And, and Big Cat, back to your, your thing that you were talking about with 2024 draft.

Yeah.

With at least 150 playoff snaps. Do you know who the number one quarterback is in terms of EPA per play?

I would say it's probably Jaden Daniels. If it's 150 snaps.

It is.

Yeah. Yeah, that's true.

That's.

That's.

It has to be.

Well, that's since 2020 with at least 150.

Oh, got it. Got it. I thought you meant just out of the 2024 draft.

Yeah, well, that's. That would also put him first.

Yeah.

One of one. He'd be one of one. The bill. So the Broncos have. Have played some down to their competition at times. The Bills are 6 and 1 against the spread when facing teams who are above.500 on the season. So they have elevated their games now that's against the spread and this is close to a pick them. So I guess they could potentially cover the sp still lose this game if they lost by one. Just keep it close for Josh Allen.

So Peyton at home in the playoffs. Overall, seven three. Really good record. Straight up over the last four games.

That is the Dome.

Yeah. Over the last four games in the playoffs. One and three. So it's been on downward trend. We saw this matchup in the playoffs last year in Buffalo.

Yep.

And it was not close. I did two different teams, obviously.

Yep. I did. See. Sean Payton is 4 and O with extended rest.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So that's. That's. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. I can't wait for this game. I'm all these games are great.

What's the blueprint for the Bills to.

Win this game again? Keep it close. Josh Allen.

Josh Allen. Maybe tight end. Two tight end. Touchdowns.

You need Trivius White to play like he did against the Jags where he was phenomenal.

Yeah.

You know, he hasn't. He's on the older side, so that was that. You need those type of performances from them.

Hank, I'm a little bit confused because you. You loved Bo Knicks earlier this season. Doddington Bones.

Doddington Bones. Yeah.

So the thing with gambling is it's kind of game by game.

Yeah.

Like, I don't. I was. I was not like rooting for Bo Nicks just as a person. I bet the Broncos.

Who would you prefer? So is it just because of home field advantage you want the Bills to win?

I just, you know, it's. It's. We talk about on the show, especially in the playoffs, you want to be the best, you got to beat the best. Bills fans bother me. They're annoying. I have them, you know, in my mentions and I have personal friends that are Bills fans and they've been very cocky for the last few years. Haven't won shit. And it's similar to the, to the Bears, Packers. It's like we're one on one in the season. Yeah. Would we be underdogs? Yes. Would it be. You know, it's the Bills game to lose and I would love to be in that position. Like, I just want the storylines, I want the drama. I want to go down swinging. I wanna. And I don't really want to go to my high.

Okay. That was. Yeah, you buried the lead there.

But more so I want to like, just crush their fans souls.

Your hatred for the Bills. Will you not be urinating in the trough when I get it? Because we are getting it.

Yeah, I don't care. I mean, I know I will. You're. It's pissing on the Bills.

Well, no, it's pissing in their. In their bathroom. In their toilet.

I mean, I've pissed. I've already pissed in those troughs.

I clogged a toilet at the. In High Mark Stadium. You're going to that game. I clogged a toilet.

It'd actually be.

That's impressive.

I feel like those are going to get it.

Signed by Bills.

Very impressive.

Signed by Bill's players. So that will be nice.

Yeah.

It was a sweet toilet, but.

It was. But it was impressive still, Hank, you'd.

Be urinating on their. You, you'd be marking your territory over where they marked their territory.

And you said we're going to get them signed by Bill's players, so that'll be cool.

Thank you for respecting my power, man. Yeah, you're welcome. Appreciate that. Oh, man.

It was a Mickey Mouse toilet. I'm not saying the big cat hasn't clogged impressive toilets before. He has this one in particular. I would say Mickey Mouse for this. I feel like stadium.

Maybe not.

I feel like actually, I actually.

More unclogged toilets and Firefest. I have a Story for you guys.

Oh, boy.

Yeah. Okay. 49ers at Seahawks. Seahawks minus seven over under 44 and a half. Right before we started taping, Sam Donald was added to the injury report for an oblique injury.

Yeah. Questionable.

What was that?

I don't know, but it's. It's making me think. Which might be exactly what it was designed to do.

Yeah.

I bet Sam Darnold's gonna start.

I would say so.

I bet he's not going to show any effects of whatever injury is. Maybe the Seahawks just got jealous. They're like, everyone's talking about the 49ers being so injured. We've got our excuses, too.

Yeah.

Sam. We are firmly on Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold. Pumpkin watch, though.

And the backup, Drew Lock.

Backup Drew Lock.

Who?

Future four time Pro Bowler Drew Lock. I think I predicted his rookie year.

What do you say to the media there? Sam Darnell said he expects to be ready to play. Said there is close to zero percent chance he won't play. That's not zero. That's not zero. We discussed this on Monday's show, but the 49ers have won 11 consecutive wild card and divisional round games. Playoff games. That is pretty insane.

It is.

Every time they're in the playoffs, they get to at least the NFC championship game, at least for the last, you know, however long this has been. 10 years.

Yep.

It's nuts.

It's very impressive. And we. We also go on to talk with Kyle Long in a little bit about Fred Warner. I think we brought him up, just saw the news now that Fred Warner is not playing. He will not be activated this weekend.

He's going to come back next week.

It would have been crazy. It's still crazy that he's theoretically healthy enough to play in the next couple weeks.

It really is.

But it's not going to be this week. You think Kyle Shanahan was playing a little possum when they played against the Seahawks in the last week?

I don't think so.

I know the one by the one seed was on the line.

The buy was pretty important, especially losing George Kittle in the first round.

You got two. You got two guys out. Two important guys to your offense.

Yep.

Maybe Shanahan was like, I won't show you. I won't show everything that I have.

Yeah. I just keep going back to that game. Week 18, obviously, you know, is a totally different game. Kyle Shannon is going to make adjustments, but that was a game that people were like, oh, well, Christian McCaffrey, you know, the Pick in the. In the red zone. The Niners were in it. Also, the Seahawks should have been up by more. Sam Darnold, remember that goal line.

Yeah.

Where he should have easily hit. Hit the running back in the flat for a touchdown. Like, I feel like the Seahawks left something on. On the board there as well. And their defense just throttled the Niners. And now. No, no. George Kittle. I don't know.

I want to call a shot on a play, a specific play that I'm looking for this week from the 49ers. You know, the play that's always open the double fake screen pass, tight end up the seam.

Yep.

I think Cal's going to run that this week.

So look left fake, look right fake.

And then tight end up the scene. And Kyle's. He's done it, and it's definitely in his playbook. But there was one year, I think it was like 2018, he did it to the Seahawks in the first game, and then the Seahawks did that play to him the second time they played.

Okay.

And they ended up beating the 49ers.

I'm going to give you credit, too, for the variation of that, the fake handoff fake. Screen up the seam. Yeah, I think that counts as well.

The tight ends always open on that.

Yeah.

And Kyle loves to run it.

Yep.

Hank, I got a trivia question for you. Trivia question of the day. Where is Mike McDonald from, the head coach of the Seattle Seahawks?

Is he from Braintree?

He's from Scituate, Massachusetts.

Whoa.

Really?

Yeah. You're acting like shock.

That is. That is stunning.

I thought you guys all knew each other.

So did I.

Is this one of your AI things? This is like the point thing.

Dag Rocket, by the way, the extra point thing.

He might have moved to Georgia.

He is tied for last place.

He did go to high school in Georgia, so that might be where you. You forgot to introduce yourself to him. That makes sense.

Mike McDonald.

Yeah. He went to high school in Roswell, Georgia.

He's born in Scituate, Massachusetts.

Hell yeah.

1987.

That's.

That's big.

The other streak that's going on, the Seahawks have won 10 straight home playoff games with fans in the stands. So they lost the COVID year to the Rams 2020 with no fans in the stands. So it's 11 straight for the Niners in the wild card or divisional round and 10 straight for the Seahawks with fans in the stands at home.

We're also on very tough place.

We like. We kind of forgot about the 12th man. Not not that we forgot about it, but it felt like we had lost a little bit of the 12th man because the teams weren't as good.

They just weren't good for a while.

Yeah.

And. And you lose some of that home field advantage because the crowd's not going to be as loud, enthusiastic. But when they have a winning team. Yeah, Seattle's still really loud. I would like to see some rain in this game, just for old time's sake, you know, like when we had the old wet Pete Carroll walking up and down the sidelines. I want to see some of that action going on. Christian McCaffrey is also on watch right now. He's about to tie Thurman Thomas for scoring in nine consecutive playoff games.

Whoa.

If he gets a touchdown in this one, he scored an eight right now. And Thurman Thomas has the record with nine consecutive ones.

He's very good.

Yep.

Memes.

Did you see the.

Look away. Jets fans tweet?

I did not.

There was a Connor Hughes. Is he a Jets beat writer? Reporter? Yes. He said that the. The plan that Salah had. Salah. Because, you know, Sam Darnold's, you know, back to back 14 win seasons. The plan that Salah wanted and. And had was to keep Sam Darnold trade back in the draft and draft Devonte Smith. Everything's hindsight. We don't know. All right. I just wanted to throw that out there. That I just saw that.

Well, that was precise.

A lot.

That's what he wanted.

Yeah. He wanted to do that. He wanted to keep Sam Darnold. No. Failed. You're just refusing. You're. You're saying this piece of information I've provided. Strike it.

Yes.

When I told me people were like, oh, yeah, I want to draft Patrick.

Patrick Mahomes. Sure. Fair.

But he wanted Fair.

Fair. Fair counterpoint.

When I told Memes that Sam Donald was. Was questionable for this game, his immediate response was mono. You wish. You're wishing mono. You're wishing a second bout of mono. Long mono.

No, he had. He was an NFL quarterback who had mono. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Derailed his career as New York Jet. Here's a fun one. Brock Purdy, I believe is four. No in Seattle.

Okay.

So he's not scared. No. Now that was obviously Niners having better teams in the Seahawks for some of that. But still they won week one there.

Yeah.

They won week one there.

Week one. That the Niners defense looked pretty good.

Yeah. And different guys.

I don't. Yeah. It's not like there's like no similarity to that defense. I don't know what Sal is going to do to, to draw this up to try to limit the, the Seahawks passing attack, but I will say that the Seahawks have not looked super explosive on offense recently. Like, they're, they were awesome on that side of the ball for the first, what, like 15 weeks of the year. Yep. And then kind of if they didn't really carry that same, same momentum, I think, you know, the Seahawks are, are clearly on paper the much better team. But we'll see what Kyle's got for him. Yeah.

Okay. Next game Sunday. We're going to Sunday, Hank. Texans Patriots right now. Has it bounced around? Because I saw there was maybe some three and a halfs. What is it right now? I'm pulling.

It was three and a half earlier.

It was three and a half Earlier. It's been. It's been three or three and a half.

It's three right now. Minus 120.

Minus. All right, so yeah, three patriots minus three over. Under is 40 and a half. How are you feeling? What are the vibes?

Vibes are high.

Reports that it's going to be potentially a snow game is exciting. ESPN is sending the house. They're sending everyone. Svp, Teddy Brusky, bunch of bunch. It's a big game. Feel okay. Monday Night Football feel Monday Night Football field.

Sunday afternoon.

On a Sunday afternoon ESPN And I'm just excited. I think, I think we're on a roll.

Oh, you're going to roll.

What does that look like?

Booty, which I don't know, is a little bit bull and more material. Unpatriot, like. But he was talking about how, you know, everyone's like, is this the best defense you've played? He said, I wouldn't say they're that good. They play a lot of man to man. So we just gotta. He's like, they're very physical. I'm very physical. We just gotta out physical them.

That might not have been smart to.

Say, but I kind of love it too.

But they are very physical team.

But maybe like. Yeah, so we're going to meet him head on. Yeah.

Who do you think is more physical? Booty or Will Anderson Jr.

Probably Will Anderson Jr. Is Christian Gonzalez going to play? Christian Gonzalez is going to play.

Has he talked to the media?

He has talked to the media.

He's been cleared.

He's been cleared.

Oh, he has.

Yeah.

And he was full contact.

I don't think Nick Nico Collins is going to play.

I don't think he is either.

I don't think he's Going to get cleared.

That kind of sucks for the schedule. Like them playing on a Monday night really did kind of him. And who knows if he would have been fine for. For the game if he had that extra day of rest. But as we talked about, it's. It's pretty much impossible to get cleared if you're in the protocol. If you played on Monday night.

When you said that, I thought you're.

Talking about Drake May.

What we said it sucks for the schedule.

Oh, oh, yeah, the schedule. You remember the schedule. I wasn't talking. Big Cat brought up the schedule. But Drake May.

No, that was the nickname that you didn't like that people were saying I.

Didn'T care for it. I don't agree with it. Well, listen, we're in the playoffs. The schedule is playoff football.

Playoff football, playoff teams.

This is the games that matter.

They did.

They did a 14 minute. Like it was just Mike Vrabel and Drake May miked up from the game intercut. It was. It was incredible. Mike Vrabel is just. Just a men amongst men.

A men amongst men.

This will be the first playoff game with two teams that didn't allow a TD in the previous round of the playoffs since the 2002 NFC title game.

Yeah, I mean, this Patriots defense, Eagles.

I want to say 2002.

That was 2000.

Wait, NFC championship. Yeah. Oh, no, that was. Was that Bucks, Rams, maybe.

I don't know. The Bucks always beat these.

Yeah, because I think the Rams championship won the divisional round.

I think that was in the middle of the Eagles little streak that they had.

Right. They would lose an NFC championship game every year. To the Bucks.

To the Bucks.

2002 beat the Eagles. Yeah.

Do you want to do your little outsourced presentation now or later?

I don't have a presentation. I've got. I've got facts and informative material about the NFL to better educate the audience and. And as well as us. And I learned something.

Okay.

Okay, so this is. Hank. I'm gonna spoil it because it's really just going to be me sucking Drake May off because he's a great quarterback. His defense might be carrying him right now, but he's a great quarterback and he's winning football.

The whole sport.

Yeah.

Nice.

Yeah.

He's winning football.

He's winning football right now. No, no, I'm saying he is winning.

Winning all football.

No, I'm saying he is winning football like he is winning football personified.

Yeah.

If winning football.

Football, he's winning.

If winning football.

Has he won the game of football?

No, no, he's winning.

If football was a quarterback, it would be Drake May. He is winning football.

And if football is a game, would he be winning that?

Football's not a game. It's life.

Yeah, it's true. He got you there.

All right, so this is just going to be me sucking Drake May off. Okay, who has the highest completion percentage in the NFL? Drake May. Who has the top passer rating in the NFL? Drake May. You can feel free to chime in. Who has the highest yards per per attempt in the NFL? Drake May.

Drake May.

Who is the best in third and longish situation like third and six. Who's the best at that?

Drake May. Drake May.

No.

Oh, third and six is when I chimed in.

Third and six might be Drake May's kryptonite.

Oh, no.

Drake May is the worst quarterback in the NFL on third and six.

No way.

And it's not close since. Since he got this. Since he got into the league. I'll give you a guess. Minimum of 10 attempts at third and six. What place do you think Drake May is in?

Can't be last, right? 30th.

Give me a number.

30.

I'll say 23.

You say he's third. Hank, you said 24.

24, yeah. Why are you wearing a winter coat?

I just realized.

I thought.

We'Re hanging with the boys.

Easing. I. I'm like, just warmed up. I'm keeping it on.

Okay, so we had a guess of 30th, 24th and 3rd. It's lower than all three of those. He is 36th in the NFL. There's not even that many on 3rd and 6.

Just 3rd and 6.

Just third and 6.

Max.

Bring up. Bring up the graphic that I sent over to you.

So you did do a presentation.

It's just one graph.

He didn't do it.

It's just one grab shout out. Stat Hole sports. Oh, the guy who gave you at the very bottom.

Oh, wait. Oh, there's the Jake Elliott one that you got wrong.

Well, no, that. That's kind of right. He is in last place.

Oh, saddle sending that one too. Yeah, Stat Hole was in the office.

He was like, said it was wrong and did PFD. Just goes, well, Stat Hole said it to me. Well, well then Stat Hole. Also there was a screenshot that said that where Stat Hole said the Right.

Yeah. So Sadhole said the number off to me.

Don't do Jake Elliot. Damn it.

By the way, Jake Elliott is. He's in last place for points after touchdown. His. His percentage in the entire NFL. In the playoffs. So that part of it was right. That was an inaccurate part of the community note. But Hank, on this graphic right here, look, it lists all the quarterbacks that's worse than Brady Cook on third and six and their completion percentage worse than Brady Cook.

What is the numbers? Whatever.

How many times? Yeah, like what, what? What?

How many times has this happened?

This makes Sunday games so funny. In the cave, anytime there's a third and six, it's gonna be high alert.

Is gonna be the best.

Come on, we need a third and six.

Come get your boy, because he is. He is three for. Oh, five for 18. He's five.

Wow.

Five for 18.

What a sample size.

27. 27%. The league average, I believe, is 40.

Now, hold on. So that's like one throw on Hank. Hold on. Literally, like one throw. It's 18.

It's 18 throws.

No, I'm saying, like, he's 27%. The league average is 40%. If he goes eight for 20, then he's there.

I'm sorry that he sucks on 36.

40%.

That'd be three.

Two more throws.

Three more throws. You just went five to eight.

Whatever.

50% is a league average. He's 27%, Hank.

Now, what PFT has presented to you here. Stat Hole. Stat. It's a, it's a, it's a PFT joint featuring. Stat Hole.

Stat Hole is a very important part of this research project. I, I don't know why you're, like, getting upset at the numbers. That's the part that's confusing. You're a stats guy.

Here's all I'm going to ask, Hank, because I, I, obviously this is, it's a very minute stat that doesn't come up very often.

36 is a pretty important down.

But now that PFT has presented this to you, if it is 1 minute and 35 seconds left in the game and Drake May is faced with a third and six, are you going to be at least a little bit nervous and thinking already, no. Oh, fuck, we're at third and six.

No, I will not be any more nervous than I already would be.

You should be, because he's 27 completion percentage on it. So, like, if, if you're objectively looking at the game and trying to figure out whether or not you're nervous, if there's a. I'm not good at math. If there's a 30.

Sorry, stat hole.

If there's a nice guy, he's been.

In the office last few weeks.

What?

Yes.

You got anything to say?

How much of a loser do you.

Have to be to be that deep into research?

To be like, all right, I need to dig to find some dirt on Drake May. Let's check third and three. Let's check third and four. Let's check third and five.

Like how deep do you have to go?

I don't understand why you're upset about. He found.

Thinking about it.

I'm just like, how do you. How do you be. You should be thanking him because now you know a weakness that Drake May has that he can work on.

Can I ask a follow up question?

Yeah.

If we. If stat hole found this and PFT presented it, don't you think the Texans.

Have this good point?

Well, what do you mean the Texans are going to be like, just get them into third and six.

That's the game plan.

They probably don't even have researchers that go that deep.

Well, they better if they listen to the show.

Yeah. Somebody from the Texans is hearing this right now. That's. How would that.

How did you. How'd you. Game plan.

But so for the Patriots.

Yeah, that's true. Just stay out of third and six. Yeah, but no, not Bolton board. Just make sure if it's like if it's second in and eight, six.

You got to run the ball.

Yeah. You got to get the second and five or take a stack. Yeah. If it's second and. Yeah, if it's second and eight though, and you're running the ball and there's. And everything's closed up, just go down.

You know what?

Make sure you stay third and seven.

Belichick would tell him false start.

Yeah.

Back it up five yards.

Oh, imagine if they fall started on a third and six.

It'd be genius. I mean.

Got it.

Variables. Probably listening to this right now. And now he knows if anything. Hank, you should be kissing my feet for telling you this stat because now you have. He's the total package with that awesome defense that he has carrying him. And if you have this one piece of information, by the way, how'd you start this one thing that you can.

Start at the beginning, the completion percentage, all that stuff?

Because those are all great stats.

Those aren't defensive stats, buddy.

No, I'm saying those are all great stats.

Right. So how.

So how can you say they're great stats but then also say the defense.

Is carrying them last game? I think we can all agree that the defense did a really good job against the Chargers. And how many points? 16 points. It's not a knock because Tom Brady in his first playoff appearance scored 16 points.

It's not what they do that year.

You shouldn't feel ashamed by having a strong defense that can carry your, your young flawed quarterback. And this might be the only flaw that he has is third and six. It's finally three six Mafia.

Hell yeah.

Does the Texans defense concern you at all? Because I really do think this is going to be a low scoring game where it's going to be very tight. CJ Stroud didn't look good. Can. No. Nico Collins.

Yeah, I mean that the defense, the. Their defense definitely scares me, but I think our defense is going to hold up against their offense and I think our arms is better. I just think we match up better in all facets of the game.

Okay.

Coach, did you know field advantage, quarterback defense, they probably have an advantage, but I like, I like our odds. I also the. It's one of those. The under. Like I don't know how this goes. Over 40 points.

Right.

I don't know who the Texans are going to throw to.

Yeah, like well see Kirk.

But true Patriots have no problem defending secret.

It's true. Dalton Schultz feel like Dalton Schultz. If the Texans are going to win, Dalton Schultz will be heard from. Like he has to be. Did you see the stat that the. So the Houston Texans are the, the newest franchise we have in the NFL. They were established in 1999. The oldest franchise we have in the NFL is the Arizona Cardinals because they were the Chicago Cardinals. They've been around for like 125 years or something like that. The Houston Texans, with their win against the Steelers, have the same amount of playoff wins as the Cardinals franchise.

Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, that's tough. It's tough to get through.

It's tough.

The, the Texans. Are they the only team that's never played in a Super Bowl?

No. Lions. Browns.

Oh, that's right.

Yeah, Jaguars.

Yep. That's. That was a dumb, dumb question.

Sorry, I didn't mean to. Yeah, it's just because the Lions and Browns are always talked about.

Yeah.

There's more. Right? No. Lions, Browns. Is it that Jaguars. Texans.

So what is the stat the Texans have? Are they the only team that's never played in a championship game, A conference championship game?

That might be true.

That might be the one. That might be true because we know the Jaguars have.

Yep. We know the Lions did two years ago and then they did obviously with Barry Sanders as well. Yeah, the Texans. Yeah, that's it. Okay. They're the only team that. So they. So they're going for history. They're going for history. They have never played in a conference championship game. I guess they were established in 2002. It says that. I think they were announced to be a franchise in 1999.

Yep.

Final score prediction, Hank.

I'm gonna go with 21 to 10.

21 to 10. Who's winning?

New England Patriots.

Okay. I'm gonna go three and six. Three to six. And I think the Texans win. A defensive. Defensive struggle.

You just have to admit, though, there's. I. We.

I.

We need a third and six.

Yes.

In the first quarter. A million thirty sixes.

It's gonna, like.

It could be good for, like. Yeah, you're just gonna be able to dump in his face once you get.

A third and six.

Yeah.

You should be excited for third and sixth.

Embrace the challenge.

Big opportunity.

I love. I love a challenge.

Why was Rabel screaming for more milk on the sidelines?

Milk.

He just kept screaming milk over and over that football.

Milton.

Milton Williams.

No, it sounded like you screamed for milk.

I didn't think he was saying milk until he went up to Milton Williams after.

That makes sense.

I love.

It was very funny. He was just screaming, melt, melt, melt.

I love Rabel, but if. If the Patriots make it to the AFC championship game, I'm gonna be a very. I'm gonna be a nervous guy. Very nervous guy.

If the Texas make it, I'm gonna be nervous. Yeah. With the pinky. We got competing bets.

We do.

Yeah. But so just to remind everyone, your bet.

Caring about your friend.

What I do care about.

Remind everyone the bet that was made, what, three years ago, three years ago.

That the Patriots would not make it to a Super bowl in the next five years. I bet Hank $50,000 to 20,000.

We gotta look. It was. It was.

I remember, too. It was in a. It was in, like, a hotel Holiday Inn lobby on Grit Week.

Yeah. Yeah.

We were eating pizza in a hotel lobby, and this bet came out.

It seemed like a great bet at the time, and I. I have to admit, I'm. I'm very much wishing I had not made that bet right now. Very much. And if you win this game, especially if you're playing against the Broncos, I actually, I. I like your chances against the Broncos more.

I'd say we'd have better. Better odds.

It'd be. The line would be closer.

Yeah. Yeah. So. Yes, for 50 grand, which Hank owes me 10. So it'd be for $40,000.

$40,000?

Yeah.

You still home? 10.

Yeah.

Fucking debts, dude. I'm waiting.

I'm waiting.

What do you Mean transfer, taxes.

Yeah. Oh, there's no point in transferring trades for taxes, capital gains.

Okay. Last game, Rams at bears. Bears are three and a half point underdog.

Over.

Under is 48 and a half. I will be going to the game. It's going to be cold, Cold, cold, cold. I'm nervous for the game. I. So the packers game last week, I said to you guys on that Friday that I thought it was the truest sense of a 50, 50 game possible. If I'm being totally honest, I think this is probably a 60, 40 game in terms of like the Rams are a better. They've shown to be a better team throughout the course of the year than the Bears. But Caleb Williams has given me a confidence that it's like, just give us a shot and give us a give. Be in striking distance and let Caleb Williams be Iceman down the stretch.

So I guess this isn't a question for you, big Cat, but more for Hank or anybody else that wants to chime in if you're. If you're up against the Bears at halftime. Because I know even in last week's game when you guys were down to the packers, it seemed like it was like the lowest of the low.

Yeah.

And I was talking to Chief and White Sox Dave at the time and I was like, you guys have fought back from this type of game so many times this year.

Yes.

And they were like, it's nothing like this. We're done. We're cooked. And from your guys perspective, if you're the Rams, what would the lead have to be at halftime for you to feel comfortable about it?

28.

I. Can I answer it?

Yeah.

I think it would be the same lead because the Rams are better than the Packers.

Yeah. Which was 21 3.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think if they were up the same. I would feel significantly worse at halftime if it was 213 than I did last week. Because last week I felt bad. But I also was like, hey, stopping a score, stopping a score. I just don't know.

And you'll see.

Rams offense is awesome. They're getting Dotson back.

Yeah.

We lost TJ Edwards, which we'll see what happens there because DeMarco Jackson does have some speed and our team defense does not have great speed. I think C.J. gardner Johnson's going to play. Ozzy Trapillo's out. That one hurts. I the one thing I'm worried about, and I know there's no such thing as a letdown game in the playoffs, but Case Keenum actually talked to the Bears this week and talked to them about the Minneapolis Miracle because he was the quarterback for the Minneapolis Miracle. And the highest of highs, winning on a walk off game where they had no shot and they win the game in regulation against the Saints. And then the next week they go to the NFC championship game and get absolutely throttled by the Eagles. So he talked to the team talking about that being like, look, it's. That was an incredible game and you have to, like, recognize that's a game, but you got to move on. So I'm happy. Similar to, like, Grady Jarrett talking about, you know, being on the other side of 23. It's good that we have someone in the locker room who can talk about what winning a playoff game in improbable fashion feels like and what, what happens afterwards.

I love Ben Johnson. I trust Ben Johnson. I love that everyone's mad at Ben Johnson. Matt LaFleur and Sean McVeigh are teaming up against Ben Johnson. It's great. It's great. He's. He's got everyone upset.

He does, he does. The boys are getting together. They're having conference calls now on how to take down Ben Johnson.

The talk has been pretty much the weather this entire week on, you know, Bears and Rams Twitter. I also saw that we are. Listen, this is the fun part about sports is if your team makes a run, you know, you get to make funny videos. Did you guys see a Bears fan made a doc, a fake documentary from 2074, and it was AI interviewing a bunch of Bears fans talking about how the 4th and 8 was when the entire franchise changed and they went on to win eight Super Bowls.

I did not see that. Was it crock?

I don't know what it was, but it was something.

Boy.

I was watching Be like, we're getting a little ahead of ourselves. But I also love it. Like, they're like. It was like an old lady sitting with a Bear sweatshirt. She's like, and. And the packers used to be good back then. And then we went on to win eight Super Bowls.

What I love about that, if that was about any other subject matter, you'd be like, this guy's schizophrenic.

Yeah.

Like, this guy's emotionally unhinged. This is not healthy. It's about sports. And so it's like, yeah, dude, this rock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is all about to turn.

Yeah.

Everything bad about my life is about to be awesome for the next 70 years.

Yeah.

How cool is that?

Puka's probably gonna go off.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Always goes off.

Puka might get 200 yards. Just running across the middle.

Yes. Just gotta go score for score. I do think that the Bears will.

Be like a high school defense.

Okay. They do okay. They did pretty well against the packers in the second half. It's not great. They did. That's not.

I'm not.

This is the defense.

I want them to win.

They're just a high school defense.

Well, it's just.

Yeah.

You have your fastest guy run across the middle and he's gonna get 15 yards.

Unfortunately, you haven't said anything wrong. But they did bow up. They are. You know, Kyler Gordon coming back is significant. He played last week.

That's.

That's a big, you know, slot corner. I. Yeah, just keep, Keep it. Keep it in there. Keep it. Keep the spirit alive. Keep a chance. I do think the Bears are going to try to slow down the game, minimize possessions, because I do think they're going to be able to run the ball and especially given the weather, just try to pound the rock.

Yeah, I, I thought this was an interesting stat about the two teams, the two quarterbacks specifically, and how they fare in the second half because it does tie into the Bears comeback narrative.

Yep.

Matt Stafford, his career second half record against the spread when he has a halftime lead.

What's up with his finger?

He's got a sprained finger. X rays negative. I think he'll be fine. I don't. Matt Stafford's a pretty tough guy. I think the two things you got to not. And I want to get back to your stat. The two things that we can't rely on is weather and fingers. Got to go play football. The real feel for Sunday night will be negative 23. What is the actual timing of that, though? The game's at 5:30, so I don't know if that's night night. Like midnight during the high is 5. We're going. Memes. Zachary, are going to the game. It's going to be cold, boys.

You're doing. Why are you doing that to Zach?

I mean, superstition. Did you just spill a coffee on all those wires? On all those wires?

Wasn't. It's not full.

It's not open. Okay. All right, Go back to that.

Okay. Here's the stat because it's kind of important for this game. Matt Stafford, when he has a lead at halftime, his record against the spread in the second half, the second half spread 35% of the time, he covers only 35. Pretty bad. Now the other side of that stat, Drake May is 36th in completion percentage on third and six with a minimum of 10 attempts over the last two years, 36 out of 36 quarterbacks. I thought that was an interesting stat, given the narrative on this game is going to be if the Rams have a second half lead.

Yeah.

What's going to happen? Matt Stafford, not that great. But also Drake may not go to 36. Also, Caleb Williams, really good against the spread in the second half, too.

What.

Why are you. Why are you so upset about numbers? That's what I don't get. You're the most analytical guy on this podcast. You come prepared with facts, stats, and everything. And now you're just like, numbers. Make 18 passes is nothing.

The 18 third and sixes is nothing. Okay, where's Jaden on the list?

I believe he's third.

Memes. And Zach, are you serious about the weather?

That's where you thought Drake was?

Yeah. You guys can say no. No, no, I'm scared. No, I'm saying you can say no. You want to go to the game? No, we gotta go.

We made it out last time. We'll make it out again.

Okay. I'm also a superstitious guy. Yeah. We gotta go win. Gotta go to the same table, and they will win if we go. Yeah. Yeah.

Gotta eat that ramen.

Yep, we're gonna eat the ramen. Gonna do it all.

I met a guy that knows your hot friend. Your hotel go guy.

Yeah.

Last night.

Yeah, he's hot. We'll find out. You tune into the act.

Oh, yeah, he's coming tomorrow.

Yeah, we're gonna find out. I don't know how this has got it.

We looked pretty. Pretty.

Looked like every. Stop.

He looked like every guy in Chicago.

Stop.

Big Head. Have beer goggles on other hot guys.

That are also coming or. No, he's bringing his friends. We're gonna re. We're gonna. We're basically doing a Nathan Fielder recreation of the tailgate.

Got it.

So he's gonna tailgate on our basketball court, and then we're going to judge whether I was. Whether I'm gay or not. I mean, because if he's not hot, then I might be gay. He looks like Teen Wolf. Is that good or bad?

Well, it's a man who has a wolf face. No, no.

Non. Non Wolf version of.

Got it.

Michael J. Fox. No. Oh, newer one. The newer one. Oh, okay. That guy's hot, right?

Yeah, yeah, I saw like, one, one, one.

All right, just chill out, Hank. Hit him with the stat.

He looked like the CEO Killer a little bit.

Oh, Luigi. Luigi's eye. People have been lusting after him. He did not look like Luigi.

I saw one picture. I was also in the bathroom. A guy showed me in the bathroom.

Jim Cornelson's doing the national anthem. That's gonna be electric. Oh, yes.

This guy.

That's a. Jim Cornelson's gonna be a big factor in this game.

Why wasn't he there last week?

I don't know who did the national anthem. I actually was getting a sausage when that was happening. I was in the bathroom. Was that. Is it disrespectful to finish your sausage while the national anthem? I took my hat off. I stopped walking, but I kept eating my sausage.

Disrespectful or not, I feel like, you know, our forefathers fought for the right for you to do that.

Yeah. I stopped because I do think, like, when. I don't know if you guys feel the same way when you're in the concourse during the national anthem, I think it is rude to keep walking. I stopped where I'm standing, but I did. I had to finish the sausage.

You put. Did you put your hand over your heart?

I had my hat over the heart. Sausage in the other hand, crushing it.

That's good. I think that's appropriate.

I think that's good, right? I think I nailed that part. We'll see. We'll see. I'm excited for this game. I mean, it's gonna be. It's gonna be a hell of a night, especially how cold it is. It's gonna be one of those who be cold. Zach, are you scared?

Yeah.

Some of the numbers are thrown around.

On the weather channel are numbers. I've never seen the forecast before. They're talking negative 20s. We got to get you guys. We got to get you. I got you special gloves. We got to get extra gloves. We got to just go. You got to just be wearing as much clothes as possible.

Max has ski gear he's gonna let.

Me hold, so I'm just giving him all my ski gear. Oh, ski goggles is not a bad idea. I have ski goggles, too. I might wear ski goggles if.

Hand warmers.

Yeah, I got ski goggles for you. Ski goggles, hand warmers. Get the. Get the face mask. Yeah, let's just get. Let's cover it up.

We'll make it through.

I also don't think it's going to be that cold during the game. I think that was. That's, like, the midnight. Now that you said it, it's going to be colder. I was looking on apple weather. I mean, I want it to be colder because they're Cali boys and they're soft.

Yeah, but remember that Bills game?

Well, we were in a suite.

I know.

Big cat clogged the toilet.

I collect a toilet right now. Looks on the weather app on my phone. It says 20 degrees at 7:45.

Feels like. Click the. Feels like.

That. 5. 5 degrees. That's not even 5 degrees. Okay, yeah, 4 degrees, 0 degrees. 5 degrees.

What was the feels like for that game with the Dolphins and the chiefs?

Yeah. The minus five is midnight. The high for the day is 18. Caleb Williams. The signs you're gonna see. That'd be bad. The signs is the worst bet you could ever make.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Let's see.

I'm looking up that. You remember that game where.

Yeah.

They had some dudes in the stands that were going shirtless. That one. Okay. That one was negative 4 degrees Fahrenheit and wind chill of negative 27 degrees.

All right, that was pretty cold.

That's very.

We were.

And we were out in the parking lot.

They called it borderline inhumane. But that's. That's the real 12th, man. If you can have borderline inhumane weather, that is the great equalizer.

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Good work.

So love it.

Standings right now, not safe. I mean, are we going till next week? Oh yeah, we are going till next week. So it would have to be. Fuck yeah, we are. We were props next week. We did. We did say that shit. But it's. I'll say this, you're safe from second place. Max and I are both 24 and 15, so we both have 24 points. Incredible year.

Dominant year.

Dominant years. Not talked about enough. Not talked about enough. 24 and 15. I mean, come on, Hank, talk about it.

I won last year. No one talked about that.

Did you go 24 and 15? Probably. Probably not. Shane, find that staff for us. Probably not.

Oh, Shane, whatever.

All right.

So Max throwing haymakers today? I think it's the coat. I think he feels like he's got a little extra. Like this is.

Patriots are good.

Cocky, cocky, cocky hang and. But the coat too. He feels like he's got a little extra something in between us.

He's bundled up.

Yeah.

You look like you're in the town right now.

Yeah.

Yeah. Who's cowie taking?

Max and I heard both 24 points. PFT's 19 and a half points.

No, they're not. Actually. Not true.

Wait, what was that little back and forth?

Florida.

They die in that movie?

Not everyone.

You're Jeremy Renner. You know, you're the fat guy in the ambulance.

Have a sip. That.

Hank, you have 19 points. Memes, you have 18. Zach, you have 16 and a half. So reminder, it's a 36 hour stream for first place or last place. 18 hour stream for second place. Hank, you had 18 and a half points last year, so there's no chance you were as good as we are. So what do you want to say about that?

The mat. There must not have been as many games.

Well, I mean, okay, we might not have done the first round of the playoffs. So even if that's the truth, Max and I had 22 wins going.

I mean, Shane conveniently left off the record. That's all I'm saying.

19 half points, An 18 week schedule. You went barely over 500 last year. I did worse than you did last year. You went two games over.500.

If you're 24 and 15. That's. That's professional gambler level.

That's better than professional.

Yeah, that's.

We, we are going to go tout. We should go to. We should go town.

Be a real shame to have to do that.

Well.

And have to do a punishment.

I know the tradition of this is.

That no matter what place I finish in, I, I do this punishment. Yeah. So the long story is it's feeling like it's going to be Zach unless he can get his shit together. And it's going to be one of me or Matt. It's going to be me. This is Davis Mills all over again.

What a, what a day that was.

Oh, man, the best. That was the start of Cale Williams. Shout out Lovey Spencer. All right, who's up first? I'm up first. This is also the worst battle for last place. Both went 02.

Hank also went 02 last week.

I'm going under. Rams, bears 40 and a half.

I think, I think this is just a race to end the game.

Okay. And the Rams field goal kicker is terrible. Oh, I should have said. I meant to say that the one place that the Bears have a significant advantage is special teams. The Rams have been kind of like they got a punt blocked. Kicker's been bad. The Bears. Cairo Santos has been good. Devin Duvernay has been sneaky awesome. Like that punt return he had against the packers kind of lit the stadium on fire. So we do have an advantage there. All right. Big advantage, Max.

I am going under 44 and a half.

Niner Seahawks.

A lot of unders. A lot of unders. Boys.

I'm going to take.

I'm going to take The Patriots at minus three. Okay. 50.

I'm going to take the Buffalo Bills plus one and a half.

Bears plus three and a half.

Did someone take the under in the Bears game?

Yes, Memes did. The first, very first pick. Thanks for listening to the show.

I will take. I don't.

What?

All right. I'll take the over in the Bears game.

Okay.

And I'll take the Seahawks.

Okay.

Minus seven.

Okay. I'll take the under in the Texans Patriots games. Forty and a half.

I will take Anyone take the over in the niner Seahawks game?

Nope.

I'll do that. 44 and a half. Take the over. I will take the under in the Broncos Bills game.

Does anyone take the Bills?

Yep.

You took them. Yep. Hey, get spicy. I, I, I guess I'll take Rams Minus three and a half. Rams. Minus three of that. Okay.

Did anybody take the Bears?

I did. The fifth pick. He's mocking me. That coat. Like, the way he's sitting in that coat. You just see him. He's just. He can't be hurt in that coat.

Well, he kind of looks like an undercover cop, too.

Yeah.

Take that coat away.

Like, he looks like he's on the.

Yeah.

Keeping a low profile, but you got.

A piece of Got fat memes. Somebody take the Broncos. No one took. No, I will take the Broncos minus one and a half. Okay, so we go one more, and then. Yeah. Next week, we will list a whole list of props that can be bet minus 110.

And we'll.

We'll go that way. I wouldn't listen. Doing a stream with Zach is not that bad. Right, Max? Yeah, Selfishly, yeah. I'm kind of hoping that Zach loses so that this can be his, like, his jump start.

His.

His. He's gonna lose. This will start. He's gonna lose. This will start the Zach stream.

What's his magic number one?

He hasn't won a bet in, like. Like, weeks. Every. Every time I look, I'm like, oh, Zach, you could have made up ground memes.

Lost.

Nope. I lost two.

So we're saying I'm due. Yeah.

How many are you behind? You're behind one and a half. All right, so. Yeah, you actually are. We've gone. We've had the same record for the past four weeks. All right, let's get to our interview. We got Kyle Long and then substation.

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Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest. It is our good friend, longtime friend, probably the longest time friend, Kyle Long from the Chicago Bears and the Kansas City Chiefs. We got to throw them in there. And you could see him on CBS now fighting every day with our guy, Pete Prisco and calling games. Let's actually, I want, we want to talk playoffs, but how was it calling your first game? You called the Raiders versus Chiefs. I don't know if you knew this, but in the gambling cave while we were watching the game, we had made a bet. Will there be a quarter with no points? Yes. So we were rooting for the worst possible football. There was points in every quarter. But how'd it go? You did a great job. But how did it go from your side?

Thank you. Like most things, there's a dichotomy between how excited I am to do something and then you have to understand the stakes of the game. Like the stakes were not very high. I mean, the first overall pick was already taken care of. We had all these graphics about, you know, situations that could happen if the Raiders, you know, don't or do have the pick. They did have the pick. I was just excited to be there. And as a kid who grew up, you know, with, with three boys in our family, two of us would be playing Madden and the third would be just sitting there waiting. And my waiting was like faking calling games. And you know what, now that I think of it, I was usually the play by play guy and not the color analyst. Yeah, color analysis. Hard first Off. You don't know when to talk. That's hard. You're supposed to shut up when the refs are on the field. That's hard. You can't guess on what the penalty is going to be because that's not kosher. So pretty much they're like, be yourself. But then you go, be yourself. And they're like, hey, just shut the fuck up a little bit about it, okay?

We know you're excited, but it was cool. It was so different than the studio, which is like, I eat the same breakfast sandwich in the same seat in the same studio every single Sunday and it's awesome. And you know, you get used to a routine, going to do the games. It's like nothing I've ever done except for playing. You know, you're on the field before the game, you see the size of these guys, the speed. And even a guy like me who played, I forget. So getting to go and be there is. It's special. It's a real special thing. I got to do it with Chris Lewis, who is an up and coming star for CBS Sports. He does all the kinds of games so he's a real pro. And I got to give him a shout out. He made it really easy for me.

That's very, that's awesome.

Very cool. And you have to do like pre game prep meetings and stuff like that. Like meet with the coaches.

Yeah, yeah, dude. Good question there. Because it was something that I didn't even think about when not doing like, you know, I had never done games. So I get to the week of the game and they're like, well clear your Thursday because we've got production meetings with Andy Reid and Steve Spagnolo. And I'm like, oh shit. You know, like I forgot that this is part of the gig because it was a short notice deal, by the way, for people at home. I got a call, week 18, they were like, I think we have an extra game. Would you like to call a game? So I did it. A lot of it was new to me, like sitting down, face to face with Pete Carroll, who is sitting there on his, you know, essentially his deathbed as the head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders. And you got to ask him about messaging and the vibe in the building and you know, Kenny Pickett versus Aiden o'. Connell. These are the things that people, the sickos that are watching in week 18 in a non factor game want to know about. And he's a professional. All these guys are pros.

Andy Reid. What struck me the most was Andy Reid Just being himself, even in this down year.

Yeah.

I think that's the diff. That's the differentiating factor in a lot of these buildings is leadership. And it looks different. It can look like you packers or like, I'm gonna get you guys a cheeseburger.

Right.

You know, like, it could look. It could look like both ways and still work.

Which one was Andy Reid in? That one?

Andy Reid is, you know, the cheeseburger guy. That's my old coach. You know, there's. There's so much. There's so much crossover with Andy Reid and myself. Like, it goes back with my old man and my older brother, and, you know, he had the game plan against my brother, one of those white DNS. And as you know, if you watch a guy like Max Crosby, they get a little feisty sometimes. Yeah, yeah. So there's a respect level there. He's a big kid. He sees that I'm a big kid. There's a reason like Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey thrive in that place. It's because, you know, it's the. It's Andy's misfit toys.

Yeah.

And that's the way he loves it.

Yeah, go ahead.

I was just gonna say we're gonna get into some NFL stuff, but I did have one college question for you, because I see you're wearing your organ. Ducks team issued.

One of my many colleges.

Yeah. Yeah. So do you claim the Ducks?

Depends on the crowd I'm in. Yeah, I claim the Ducks. It's the last stop that I made, and it was the. The spot that got me to where I'm at today.

So what was your reaction to that game against Indiana? You guys, you know, obviously ran up against the juggernaut in Indiana. They've been just demolishing teams. Are you thinking that they knew that first play ahead of time?

Well, quite frankly, I had an email drafted to the head of the medical commission in the ncaa, and I want all those players tested for steroids. I think instead of nil money, they just inject them straight into the butt with steroids. You know what? I met those two linebackers, the two Will Compton looking guys that are out there playing for him, and they're still great football players. And I was at the airport, and these two guys cornered me. I'm sitting there outside the Delta Lounge. They cornered me. They're like, we play, you know, that will energy, like big shoulders walk up on you.

Tough.

We play football for Indiana. And I was like, I'm an Oregon Duck. Take it easy on us. In a couple of weeks, and they did not listen to me. My wife is an Indiana Hoosier, actually. Kelly school of business. Shout out to Kate. She's a badass, and she has been insufferable this whole season, and it's really brutal. You know, she's. She's hugely prideful. And I think that's one thing that I've learned about Indiana. It's not just basketball. I used to think it was like Bobby Knight basketball, a bunch of freaks for basketball. But you give him a little bit of firepower in other fields, and those guys are, you know, they're showing up in droves.

It's crazy. It's crazy. All right, so let's, let's talk some games. Let's go through game by game because you also will be. You're coming up to the big desk for the Bills Broncos game on Saturday. You're going to be on NFL Today. I do have a problem with the graphic. So as you and Kirk Cousins are being added, they added a graphic, a headshot of you. You're skinnier than this headshot. I don't like it.

Yeah, I don't know. See, like, I fluctuate so much in weight, you know, as an old lineman, Like, I literally was telling my wife last night as we were enjoying a beautiful dinner, little date night action, I was like, I want to take it easy on all the apps because I'm going to be on the desk, as you put it, this weekend, and there's going to be a lot of eyeballs. With a lot of eyeballs come a lot of mean tweaks. And I want to make sure that my buttons aren't stressed.

Yep.

I'm not. You know, my neck doesn't just give away my sleep apnea at first notice. I just want to tone it down a little bit. And I, I'm glad you pointed that out. I think it was an old roster pick. We need a new one.

Yeah, we need a new one. We need one. So this game, though, it's, it's. I, I had this take last week with the Bills Jags, and I think I'm just going to roll it again. It's essentially that the Broncos are the better team overall, but Josh Allen is on the other side. And if the Bills game plan is simply, let's keep it a one score game going into the fourth quarter and hope our guy has the ball. I trust Josh Allen. What do you like when looking at this game? I also think we do this weird thing when it comes to buys in the playoffs, we forget like the Seahawks and Broncos exist and they're a really fucking good football team.

Yeah.

How do you.

And then you remember that they exist and you get sad because it's not just those six, six teams that we're watching.

Right.

Look, I mean, you make a great point. Is there anybody, you want the ball in their hand more than Josh Allen? I mean, and there's like a very short list of guys that you could have in that conversation and I would respect you for it. But with Josh Allen comes one of the best offensive lines in football. With Josh Allen comes one of the best second half defenses this season. I mean, I think they're top three, top four, and that's really good. They make adjustments the right way. Even though they don't have the horses as they have in years past, defensively, they find a way to adjust and they disguise well. And yeah, Josh Allen's the cheat code on short yardage. That's what you want. And with Gay Davis down, it's going to be a heavy dose of Khalil Shakir. The tight ends are going to be used a ton. But I think about, you know, Bo Nix is. Bo Nix has a horseshoe up his ass too. And I don't know how much of it is Sean Payton. I don't know how much of it is just that it factor that we've seen with a guy like Caleb Williams in Chicago where you feel pretty good in the two minute situation.

And I think that both of these squads have it going on. Obviously the guy who is from Krypton is Josh Allen. Yeah, but, but I'm worried about both groups and they both have good offensive lines, like great offensive lines. We're looking at two of the best stables in football. And you know, the X factor is going to be do these rushers for Denver ever keep their nose out of it? Do they. So they like to line up really wide.

Get nerdy with us. This is why we have you on. Let's get nerdy on some.

Well, the two guys, it's, you know, it's Cooper and it's Bonito and their, their superpower, in my opinion, in my humble opinion, is their ability to get off the ball. So like when the ball snapped, their head is like two heads forward before you can get out of your stance. And that those are the kind of players that keep you up at night. As an offensive lineman, it's like if there is any baseball players out there. I used to dream about not being able to swing the bat. Like I could see the Pitch I couldn't swing, you know what I mean? I couldn't land a punch in my dream. That's the same kind of nightmares these guys give you. Well, one thing that they do that, you know, it gives some guys problems, but I don't know why they do this. They line up super, super wide and when you line up super wide, you, you swing the pendulum to I'm going to stay outside on this rush. When you stay outside on the rush and run by the quarterback, it gives Josh Allen free reign to look at the guards, look at the center, figure out where he's going to go.

Some guys like to scramble outside the pocket. Patrick Mahomes likes to get outside the right tackle. You see a lot of their blocking schemes where Travis chips the defensive end across the tackle space and now you've got that shield working to the right side. Josh is a guy who can drop back in a non, non schemed anything and just be like, oh, the ends are by me. I'm going to take what's given to me. And it's not like we're in week seven where it's protect your body. We're in crunch time, bro. Right. We're in the part of the, we're at the 1 minute 42 mark in a great movie. Buckle up because this version of Josh Allen is what you pay for all those apps and that's why you watch.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And another superpower he might have is kind of, it's offsetting Denver superpower, which is the altitude. Josh, number one, is, is super tall, so he's used to breathing that thin air. And then number two, he went to school in Wyoming and their stadium is 7, 200ft above sea level, so it's even higher than it is in Denver. So Josh, he's used to playing the altitude. You mentioned like a defensive player that would keep you up at night. Did you actually wake up in the middle of the night thinking about an opponent?

I, I would say the hard part is falling to sleep. And you know, there's, I, I always heard my dad talk about there's nothing as fear inducing and anxiety inducing. Like, you know, there's obviously a couple things we could name that are very real and very violent and dangerous. But football is one of those things. And like I would find myself from a skill standpoint being kept up at night just understanding that some of these guys are from different planets, some of these guys are from Pandora and I'm just from Earth. And that's why those DNS get paid so much. Money.

Yeah. And with the defensive side of the ball, Buffalo's got a really good pass defense. Their cornerbacks, very, very good. They've had a lot of success there. They can't really stop the run that well. The Broncos, off and on, they. They can be effective at running the football, but it's not like they're, you know, that's what puts them at the top of their game, I think. How do you see that matching up?

Well, I totally see the Denver Broncos leaning into the fact that they have two things. They've got a quarterback who, as we said, is good in the fourth quarter and in two minutes. So they're okay being in, like a one punch, one score ball game. I feel like that doesn't intimidate this group. I really think that you're going to see a heavy dose of the run game with the Denver Broncos, and they're going to test the backs of those defensive linemen, and they're going to take them into deep water or thin air. They're going to take them into thin air, dude, and we're going to see how they do in a dog fight. And let's just hope that if the Denver, you know, if you're a Buffalo fan, let's just hope that if the Denver Broncos can assert dominance on the ground as an offensive line, that this Bill's offensive line can, you know, counter punch and Josh Allen can be the guy who can get you over the top.

Yeah. All right. The night game on Saturday. Seahawks. Niners. Niners are the walking dead in terms of injuries. I mean, they. We knew this all year then losing Kittle. Do they. I just keep looking at this game and it's like, I just don't know how the Niners are going to move the ball. And it might be wrong, but the Seahawks defense, we saw what they did to him in week 18. Sam Darnold had some misses and didn't play a perfect game. He played a pretty good game. And it feels like the Seahawks are in a situation where if they can just play defense, they might not even have to put Sam Darnold in a situation where he can make mistakes.

Well, the good thing is for Kyle Shanahan, he knows what doesn't work against this group. True. And Kyle Shanahan's a genius. So my, you know, my 4D chess brain is thinking like, well, he knows it doesn't work. He probably knows it works this time. But also, Christian McCaffrey's playing, Brock Pie still playing. And I think that's important. There's experience there at the quarterback position where regardless of how close against the wall they are and however many swords they have drawn on him. Brock Birdie's been a guy that has shown up and I've been really impressed with him. Look, the. It is so heavily in favor of the Seattle Seahawks. Like I just want people to really understand and you painted the picture of the injuries and it's been that way. They got to move that power station. I don't know if you guys have talked about that. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah. We.

The interview after you is with the guy from the. Who.

I'll stay away from it.

We, we got, we got to the bottom of the power stations. Come on.

But let me just say if I'm in that building, I'm, I'm. I'm laying the jersey on the coat the GM's desk. Rudy style.

What I'm saying.

Power that.

Yeah.

What, what is it about the Seahawks even. It feels like they're just at every level.

Look, they have, they have, they have winners inside. They've got winners on the back end. I mean they've got guys who can win and pass and run and I think that's a, that's a big time thing and oftentimes you see guys that are run stuffers. Some guys are great on third down. They can keep their unit out there and they can just go and they, you know, they've gotten so much out of those guys and I think it's a culture thing. They understand with Mike McDonald being the defensive head coach, this is their team. You know, like this is the defense's team and yeah. And they want to rid themselves of the Legion of Boom as badly as Caleb and the Chicago Bears want to rid themselves of that 85 Bears talk. So I fully expect the defensive lead from the front and Sam Darnold's the wild card. I mean we know that but every quarterback is kind of the wild card here. Matt Stafford threw a couple picks. Caleb Williams threw two picks, ugly picks the other night but ended up helping his team at the end. It's all about how Sam finishes. They're going to be around, you know, they're going to either be winning or tied in the late in the fourth quarter.

And I hope that Sam Darnold gets it done because he's. We've. Everybody's taking a on Sam Darnold.

Yeah, I, I think it is fair to ask if you really trust them in, in these types of games when it really matters and it's not specifically knock against Sam.

I trust that team.

Yeah, yeah, they're. They're a great team. JSN might be the best receiver in football right now, and always one of the two guys, Charbonnet or Walker, they're. They're going to try to find the hot hand and one of the two of them is going to be effective in that game. What is the. What have the 49ers done defensively to counteract them losing everybody. They don't have any players anymore. I don't know how they're doing it. They've lost every player. They've all been injured.

If you find out. If you find out what Robert Sala is feeding the group of guys that he has on the field and telling them every week, I mean, put that in a jar and sell it, because that is gold. He has done such a great job and such an unsung hero of gluing together a defense. And even though some weeks they give up a 40 burger, it's like you come to expect that. It's kind of like that group last year that Detroit had on the field, your Washington commander defense there for a while at the end of the year and into this year, unfortunately. But that's. That's the way it goes late in the season, especially if you're by a power substation.

Yep.

Yeah. Yeah. That's true. And to think.

And to think that Fred Warner.

Yeah.

Is even close to playing.

It's crazy.

It's unbelievable. There are there. I've referenced people from other planets a few times and he's one of those guys.

He really is.

I got another guy from a different planet. It's Trent Williams, one of your big men up front. That dude is. He's a monster. I was lucky enough to. To root for him and watch him in Washington for so many years until we misdiagnosed his cancer. And then he. It's like the ninth thing on the most embarrassing things that organization did at the time.

Misdiagnosed his cancer. I forgot that.

Yeah. And he was like, I'd rather not play for your team anymore. And I was like, fair enough. I will root for you moving forward. Godspeed. Good luck. So I. I do love watching him play football. And from your perspective as an offensive lineman, we know we can see the stats of how valuable he is to the team in terms of wins and losses. But can you maybe even get a little bit nerdy with us? Like, what is it about Trent Williams and his presence that makes his team as a whole that much better as opposed to some other great offensive linemen that might not have that same effect.

Well, I think with Trent Williams, what sets him apart is his movement, his ability to move laterally with great efficiency. And in pass protection, he gives ground grudgingly. He is a guy that's willing to fight the fight at the point of attack. And for those of you who have never been in an offensive line room, you can picture in your head what a pass set looks like. You've seen running backs make fun of o lineman doing it, you know, with their arms goofy behind them. They're getting to the point of attack. Okay, so they take their kick kick and then they. And when Trent Williams decides to build a wall somewhere, that wall is going to be found centuries later and they're going to say, trent Williams built this wall. That's the kind of guy he is in pass. And I think even more dangerous for opposing defenses is his ability to move and cut off defenders on the backside of run plays. Now, he's fantastic as a lead, as a lead guy, you know, putting a dent in the defense. You know, if we run a run mid zone behind Trent, he will displace the defensive end five yards laterally and five yards vertically.

But on the backside of plays where home runs are hit in the running game. Okay, so like front side is where you make three to six yards and then you fall over in a crowd. The backside is where you can hit your head on the goalpost 40 yards that way. And Trent Williams is one of those guys in the league who can cut off any defender, whether it's a three technique. So he's an offensive tackle. The guy inside of him on defense is a defensive tackle. That defensive tackle can line up anywhere from head up to the guard or tight to Trent shoulder. And anywhere, anywhere within that space, he can cut off anybody. And it's an unfair advantage for them. Front side and backside.

Yeah. All right. Talking about defensive lines, the Houston Texans and the Patriots playing on Sunday, that defensive line for the Texans feels like they're just playing on a different level. How, like in this matchup, I, I, I kind of like the under in this game. I feel like both offenses are going to struggle because we know CJ Stroud has struggled this year. But how do you see this game going down?

Well, I think it's going to, we're going to find out how great Drake May is, because even in last week's game, you could see the protection breakdowns, particularly on the left side of the line of scrimmage for the Patriots. And obviously with those edge rushers, somebody's going to get a one on one every single one of these plays that Drake May has dropped back to pass. Let's hope the Patriots can lean into the run game. I think that'll be vitally important. And then on the other side at quarterback, C.J. stroud is a bigger question mark in my opinion than Sam Darnold, than Bo Nix, than Caleb Williams. It is kind of crazy what has happened with him and the career arc he's been on. Obviously they've had coaches change, they've had a number of injuries in the receiver room, but it just feels like his confidence isn't there. And I remember watching him play his rookie year thinking to myself, God, this guy's already a top five, like, top five quarterback in the league. Like, just based off of sauce and confidence. Like, and that tells a lot about a player.

Yeah. And it's, it's crazy to look back at that Monday night game with the Steelers where I think if you play that game out and it's any other opponent and it's, you know, two fumbles, two fumbles, lost an interception in the red zone, like, that's a, that's, that's a, that's usually a losing effort in the playoffs.

Yeah. It's probably why Aaron Rodgers was so frustrated in the locker room, allegedly saying, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Because they weren't able to overcome or they weren't able to capitalize on five fumbles to. Five fumbles, two picks.

I think it was, I think they, they, they lost two fumbles. They fumbled it. C.J. shroud fumbled five times, lost two of them and threw a pick in the Reds zone. You should win that game.

It doesn't work usually. And thank God for that defense. And it's like you hear the phrase championship defense. This is a championship defense. And it's like, just don't drop the ball and we'll be okay. We should be in every game.

Yeah. Yeah.

Are, are you familiar with Trent Brown and his tattoo game from the Houston.

Trent Brown's tattoo game is explicit and X ray.

He. My, my favorite tattoo maybe in football history. Trent Brown, he, he was on. Part of my take. Yeah, we talked, we talked about that tattoo as a refresher. It's a tattoo of him with two women pleasuring him at the same time.

Big Trent Brown fans on his arm.

Huge Trent Brown fans on his arm. What was, what was the best tattoo you saw in the league?

I had a teammate who was an edge rusher, who was an elder statesman in the locker room. And he had a tattoo right below his waistband of a buck. And it read, all you can eat under a buck. And he'd be like, my wife hates it.

Oh, that's incredible. Holy.

That's pretty good.

Holy.

So when it comes down to this game, though, there's a lot we don't know. We don't know how it's going to play out. We don't know if Drake May is going to be able to stand up to this defense. I was actually impressed with what he did last week. Even though he didn't look good against the Chargers, for the most part, he didn't play a great game. But the defense was getting in his face, and he adapted. He ran with the football a lot. Do we expect to see the Patriots try to do that, use his mobility? Are we going to have some other plan where you hand the ball off and quick passes?

Well, I think a lot of what this game plan is going to be based around is whether or not they can sustain any sort of run game inside. Because off of that, to your point, Drake May can extend plays to the outside. He's great at the deep ball. He throws the ball accurately. He puts it in a friendly position. He just has to. Has different. He has to have different windows to be able to throw that thing. Launch points have to change, and that's what's going to keep that rush group honest. Okay, you go stretch to the left. Stretch to the left, stretch to the left. Boot to the right. Now that backside defensive end is kind of in a blender. You're going to cut those backside defensive ends. You're going to hit them with anything. You got to keep their eye level down on the blockers instead of the football. And I think a lot of that involves getting Drake May out on side the move.

Okay, I have just from the beginning we started this interview, all I've wanted to talk about is Ram spares. So we're here. How are we feeling? Is the weather actually matter? Because that's pretty much the main conversation right now online is the weather. And I love the. I love bear weather. I love all this talk. But at the end of the day, the weather's not going to score you touchdowns. We can't just say, hey, the weather's going to win this game. So, like, when you look at the Rams, I'm terrified of their offense. I think their defense has some leaks, and it's just like, can the Bears maybe not get in a hole this time and put together four full quarters?

Well, I think it's important to point out with the weather that if there is any sort of precipitation or the footing is poor, it's advantage offense. We know the play, we know what direction the play is going, we know when we're going to snap the ball and we know which one of you guys we're going to get to a man defense, you got to do a lot of reacting, a lot of cutting, putting your foot in the ground. The Soldier Field grass. I know it's been renaissance revitalized.

Matt Eberflu. Shout out Matt Eberfluous. The one that he did.

You know what? Shout out Matt Eberfluss. And I do think that it is advantage offense. I do think that it really doesn't matter because our defense is not great. Right? It's going to come down to a shootout. And they asked me how many points the Bears have to score in order to win this football game and I kind of jokingly said 38. And I'm kind of like, was I kidding? Yeah, because you can take a look at Matt Stafford's, you know, 32 and under, 32 degree and under games and you can say, well, he's not good in cold weather. And I'll tell you, go look at the football teams that he was on during, during some of those losses and, and us three can sit here and tell you he was a warrior on a horrible team for a long time. So I'm going to throw those records out the window and I'm just going to take a look at what he's been doing recently, and what he's done recently has been the MVP of the league. So Caleb has to string together four quarters of clean football. We have to establish the run because just like the Houston Texans, they've got some dogs up front for the, for the LA Rams.

And you know, we're aware that on the back end they have some flaws, but in order to get to the back end, you got to kill the Rottweilers at the front door. So I expect Ben Johnson to have a good plan, John Wick style to take out some dogs.

So the front end for the Bears, the offensive line has been great this year. Ozzy Trapillo, really terrible injury in the game on Saturday against the packers, he's out how much of a, like, as a unit, switching out a left tackle, like, what does that do to the rest of the unit? Is it something that you can just be like, all right, we're good. It's not a guard, it's not someone in the interior. Or is it like hey, this is going to be a little bit different. It's going to be tougher to fight with a guy who's been there for at least the last half of the year and been playing well. And now you got Theo Benedict, who's. Who's seen time this year, but is not. He wasn't starting for a reason.

It sucks.

Okay, now.

Now there's three things going for Theo Benedict that I think other teams just. They just flat out don't have. He's got the best guard in football playing in his right hip pocket in Joe Tunney and Joe Tuney has played with a ton of guys, and he's technically sound. He's quiet, he's efficient. He just gets it done. And he has the unique luxury to be able to do his job and keep an eye on his buddy from Canada, Theo Benedict. Now, you and I were talking earlier this week about some of the benefits of having a guy like Theo Benedet. And to talk back to our points about the game plan. Theo Benedict gets after in the run game.

Right?

Okay. I've described him many times as being like a hockey style. He's a hockey player enforcer, playing tackle. Okay. They just took his skates off, gave him cleats. Go get him, bud. And he's been great. And if they run the football, great. If they pass the football, we have the unique ability to have Cole Comet and Colson Loveland on the field. Ben Johnson is the other. So it's. It's Joe tuning in your hip pocket. It's Ben Johnson who knows more than us, and he's gonna do a great job of protecting his guy. And it's Caleb Williams evading sacks at a rate that is off the charts.

Yeah.

So he's got a couple things going for him. And he's not going to be alone very often, I would guess.

I would agree with that.

I don't know if Ben Johnson takes requests, but I would very much like to see a play where you get a matchup that you like, maybe get Loveland matched up against Emmanuel Forbes and throw just a quick pass to him and let. Let Loveland carry Emmanuel Forbes, backpack style, for about 30 yards down the field and just run into the end zone with him, because that. That could be an issue. Emmanuel forbes weighs about 160 pounds. He's. He's started to play a lot better in the past year or so, but he still has his moments where it's like, that's a guy that I would probably try to attack if I was in Chicago. Bears.

If.

If I'm Ben Johnson, I feel good about attacking anybody with any of my guys, and I really, I feel strongly about that. And, you know, I don't care who gets off the bus. Like, this offense has the ability to score 35 points a game, let's say. And when that moment comes around, I mean, there's matchups that you want to exploit, but it all comes down to who's going to perform in the moment. I've seen it from our guys. I love that. The only issue is the other guy that they're competing with is Matt Stafford. So, I mean, I'm going to be at the game, it's going to be wild. I'm definitely going to have to have a number of pregame beers to get settled.

Yep, we're going to do that together.

And then I'm going to put the balaclava on and I'm going to go incognito. Man, I love it.

All right, so one last thing about the cold, because you played in a lot of cold games. How much does it actually matter? Because I know that the sidelines talk us through it. Like, the sidelines are warm, right? They have all the heaters.

Sidelines are hot.

Yeah, hot. So. So what is it? When does the cold actually suck? Is it when you're on the field for a long time? Is it, you know, when the refs are on the field, it's commercial. Like, when does it actually start to suck that you're in this cold during warm ups?

It sucks because you're getting that initial shock of it. And like, the first time you hit your teammates, full pads and everything, that sucks. But then you get to the bench and you get warm and you get cozy. But you have that thought in your head of like, I have to prepare to be very cold here in a second and nothing can change. From the bench to the huddle is where you're like. You know, it's like in those movies where there's two doors in the outer space, space stations. You, like go into the middle part, it closes behind you, it opens, and then it's like outside. That's. I mean, that's the. The feeling you get. Not only the atmosphere of being in an NFL game, but man, oh, man, it's gold. Yeah. And then long drive. Sometimes there's TV timeouts, sometimes there's reviews. When you're standing around and not moving, it is cold. You just, like, you see guys do, like, running in place and stuff like that.

You're just.

You don't want your body to fail you, and that's what your body wants to do in those cold conditions.

Yeah.

I saw you tweeted out the over under of Rams players wearing sleeves or going shirtless and warm ups. You said it at two and a half. It sounds like you're. You're saying that the Cali boys aren't going to be able to handle a little lake effect.

Somebody actually replied to that tweet and said that these guys, this group had done it before and they got waxed. So they're cognizant of, like, not looking that way. And like, I don't think there's any. I don't think there's a benefit to it. I think Sean McVeigh might be like, don't do any of that dumb tough guy. Let's just go beat him. You know, I feel like that could be the messaging as well. Also the. The Matt LaFleur. Sean McVeigh.

Yeah.

Side quest is interesting.

Yes.

So is it. Does that, like, obviously, Matt LaFleur and Sean McVeigh are good friends. We all know that the way that.

The game ended, some would say better than good friends.

Better than good friends. They're best friends. Matt LaFleur. The way the game ended was embarrassing for Matt Laflory. Obviously, he's probably not having the best week, but is there anything that Matt LaFleur can share with Sean McVeigh that Sean McVeigh doesn't know already? Like, how does that. They're both incredible football minds.

Is there any, like, he choose dentine ice? Yeah.

Like what, What? I think what happens there where they get on the phone and is it because I saw that clip and I was like, oh. But then I thought about.

It goes like this. I hate Ben Johnson.

Yeah, right, Right.

And then he's like, I think I'm gonna hate Ben Johnson too.

Yeah, dude, I'm sorry.

That sucks. I love that Ben Johnson's hated by everyone, too, too. It's awesome.

It's like he's got a defeat. It's like a video game. He's got to defend, like, multiple levels of Shanahan's.

Yeah.

So, like, he takes out LeFlore, then he gets McVeigh and then final boss Shanahan. Then you got super boss, maybe d' Amico Ryan, another Shannon.

It's a Middle Ages, Game of Thrones style blood feud in the National Football League, and I'm here for it.

I, I honestly, I think it's a little bit embarrassing that the, that the coaches that are good friends are like, we're gonna. This guy's mean.

Yeah.

And we're gonna beat him.

I love it.

Reminds me of people that team up in solo lobbies and video games. Like, if it's a PvP game, like, I'm supposed to be fighting this guy in this building. I don't need you coming over here saying, stay right there. I'll get him. You heal up. Like, nah, bro, that's. That's. It's weak. Shout out to arc Raiders, by the way.

Yeah, wait, I. Actually, we're gonna. Zach, think of a question about video games, because you're gonna do the robot question in a second real quick. Winners for each game go down the list.

I've got the Bears beating the Rams. I've got the Broncos beating the Bills. I've got the Seahawks beating the Niners.

And then Patriots.

And I've got the Patriots winning, too. And then. Okay, yeah. You don't want the next round, too? I can give you the next round.

Yeah.

I mean, I got the Broncos beating the. The Patriots, I've got the Seahawks beating the Bears in Seattle, and then I've got the Bronco or the Seahawks beating the Broncos in the Super Bowl. Now, I know it's chalky. I understand that, but people always say, like, oh, you just picked the one seeds. Just because they're higher seeds and this sounds backwards. Just because they're higher seeds doesn't mean they're better teams. Okay.

Yeah.

Sometimes there's, like, context around this stuff and nuance. I think the word is.

Yeah. I mean, and. Oh. I mean, the Bills opened his favorites. I think it switched back to the Broncos crazy favorites. But that's not, you know, that's not, you know, picking the Broncos is not. It's not like they're, you know, 14 point.

God forbid I pick the teams that I think are going to win.

Yeah, I actually, I. Well, I don't even want to get ahead of myself, but I. I do think, like, the. If the Bears have to play the Seahawks, that's a nightmare matchup because of how good that defense is. But hopefully we have that problem to. To. To get to after Sunday night.

Yes.

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I have not met Kyle.

No, sir.

Virtually.

I've met Kyle.

Kyle, have you dabbled in.

I. I heard the shout a little bit earlier. Have you dabbled in arc raiders at all?

Oh, big time, buddy, big time. I'm ready for. My projects are done. I'm ready for the expedition now.

Are you going, are you doing like PvP?

Like are you going after other teams or are you going against against the.

Map, against the, the, the arcs?

Sometimes I do a little recruiting when I'm doing against the arcs, I'll do some recruiting and solo lobbies, but for the most part I'm, I'm testing out the guns that I got for my free loadout. You know what I'm saying?

I like that because I'm, I'm historically running free loadouts too, man. It's too risky to go in there and lose everything.

That's it. That's it.

Kyle, have you follow up question on Zach's question, have you ever accidentally stayed up till 5am playing Arc Raiders?

Yeah, I've stayed up and then I was late to a really important meeting actually this one time.

I'm sorry that happened to you, man. It happens to some people sometimes.

And you know, all we can do is be better.

Right.

And then Howie came in and fired you.

Yeah.

You just gotta, you know, God willing, help the team and keep showing up.

Yeah. What happens in the NFL locker room when a guy sleeps in through a meeting?

$12,000 non tax write off and man, oh man, just like the look of death.

Oh.

Sometimes it's better to not to be late to the meeting. Just miss the meeting.

Oh, good point.

Have an excuse and be like, hey, sorry I didn't let you know I was busy.

I.

Something came up. Emergency.

Yeah. If you can flip it on them and make them think that maybe you're dead, then it's like they feel guilty.

I'm having a baby. I was having a baby. Yeah.

Where it's like he's not here and now we have to actually worry about his safety. So we go from anger to, to.

There's a lot of that. There's a lot of like, you know, where is this guy?

Or if you're super late, just bring something in. Like bring in a bunch of donuts.

Yeah.

Or bring in breakfast tacos or there.

Was a fire at Dunkin Donuts, but I got these donuts out in time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Thank God.

What are you gonna say, Zach, you had a question Follow up.

Oh, I just, I was just gonna wish him the best in his endeavors.

Into the, into the.

Into the unknown, into the map. Zach, it sounds like that wasn't his question. Sounds like he Had a question.

What's the question, Zach? I was gonna ask if that really.

Happened to you because our graders.

No. No, it didn't.

I was. I didn't want to ask. It was like a thought I had out loud.

Back here, Kyle, you know, it's like misery loves company, I guess.

Yeah, he's trying to help you out. Now, would you be open, Kyle, in the off season to potentially teaming up with Zach in some 100%?

I would love to. I. I'm a gooper myself. I'm a goop lord, so goop, goop, goop.

I'm down to get gooped, Kyle.

Oh, and maybe, Kyle, you could do us a favor and like, at 1 in the morning, you can tell Zach when you're playing together. Like, hey, Zach, time to go to bed.

11 o' clock is actually my bedtime. You know, I get the text from my wife sometimes, like, did you fall asleep on the couch? Or slash, where are you? Yeah, I mean, and then I gotta shut the computer off and go. I gotta like, sneak into the room.

Listen, Kyle's an all Zach. I will say this cow's like all time gamers. I've told this story before, but it still makes me laugh. When we went, we stayed at Kyle's house when he was still living at Lake Forest. And we stayed an extra day and Kyle was so locked into the games, as we left the next day, we're like, hey, Kyle, we're leaving. And he was just like, oh, shit, I forgot you guys were still here. That's what happens with the emergence sometimes. Also, Kyle had the greatest kitchen of all time. Remember you? I think we watched you eat two full pizzas at like 12:30 at night because you're like, I got to keep the weight on.

And it was just, hey, we'll leave the light and the oven on for you.

Yeah, it was. Every single corner of your kitchen had the greatest snacks of all time.

Yeah, that's it. I'm still struggling with that now.

You're also, I think, like a thought leader in the iracing setup. You had the racing simulator ready to go. I think that's. That might have been what you were playing.

Yeah, a lot of iracing and I haven't iraced in a while. I actually gave my setup to a guy named Drew Parker, who is like a brilliant singer, songwriter, country music. And I. Now I'm getting the itch to do DCS again and like, yeah, flight. Flight simulator.

You ever.

I don't want to bring that up because I know me and Emory could go for a while on this stuff.

Yeah.

You ever go on the. The custom servers on multiple.

No. I'm. When it. When I have to download mods, I'm like, I'm out. I like to play vanilla anything.

But I can. I could, like, design a mission and then send it to you, and then you'd have to fly that mission.

What would your mission be?

For me, I got to think of a good one. I don't know. I got to get in the lab on that one. I.

Let me know I'm ready. I'll be training.

I have to buy a new computer. This is kind of embarrassing. I have to buy a new computer because the DCS modules take up so much space in my computer that I essentially have to have a new computer just for that game.

It's like 1.5 terabytes too many JDAMs in your computer.

Yeah.

Oh, man. All right, Kyle, you're the best.

Thank you.

Sunday and everyone tune in NFL today. Kyle's gonna be on the big desk, very excited for that. And, yeah, we'll see you Sunday, man.

See you guys. Thank you very much.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. He is Peter Cowan. He is, has a website called Sunlight is Life. That's an app that you could find. So he's a circadian science and photobiology plus biophysics. And you probably recognize the name because he went pretty viral last week talking about the electrical substation next to the 49ers facility. So Peter, we saw it, we thought it was, you know, we, we love, you know, weird Internet and also just like theories and everything that's out there. Let's start here though. So thank you for joining us. Let's start here. Can you explain this to me? Like I'm five years old because I don't. I read your thread and the minute you started using some big words and numbers, my eyes glossed over and I didn't know where I was. I felt like I was actually in the 49ers facility and I was about to tear my, you know, Achilles. So what, what, what is this? Explain this to us.

I mean, that's kind of how I feel right now. I'm on being on TV and stuff, but I'm gonna do my best. So. So let's think about it this way. So the wireless stuff, basically it dries you out on the inside. So have you ever taken a rubber band and like left it out in the sun and it goes from being nice and stretchy to being brittle and snaps? Yeah, that's a really kind of the most simple way to explain it.

Okay, okay. And, and what, what about this? Like, so what, what is the substation next to them? What is it doing? Why is it there? And then what is it like emit that is then potentially hurting the 49ers.

Yeah. So I mean, why is there. I think it's been there for decades. And it's just. That's how power is distributed in cities. And it's emitting something called an AC magnetic field, alternating current magnetic field. And that's a form of what we call non ionizing radiation, which has traditionally been considered not to be harmful unless it gets so hot that it can heat your tissues. But there's been a lot of research in the past 50 years or so, actually showing that it can cause harm at the cellular level by dehydrating yourselves, among other things.

Okay.

Okay, interesting. So the 49ers, I think they're the only team that, that we know of that practices so close to one of these facilities.

Yeah, I did. Sorry, go ahead.

No, you can finish.

I. I did a lot of research and the other ones that I could find that were somewhat close were. Were like at least a quarter mile away or so. And at that point it's just. Will have dissipated.

Yeah, we. We actually have a substation that's right next to our office here. So when we saw this from you, we started to worry about ourselves. And if there's a way that we can check it now, you. You went out to the. The team facility and you had. What was the name of the. Was it a gauss meter? Gauss gas meter, yeah. So what does that measure?

That just measures the strength of an AC magnetic field.

Okay, and so you measured it across the facility from the substation or. How close did you get?

Yeah, so I was on. Actually, I don't live down there. I live in Oregon and I was down visiting my family and my dad. My dad was driving me to the airport. We were going to just stop by the facilities and then go to In N Out Burger. And my plan to go get really close to the. The practice facilities was quashed because there's all these gates and stuff. So we around back, there's like a parking ride. And I got my gas meter out and it was the very back of the field and I noticed an elevated magnetic reading and I got closer and it got higher. And then my dad started having some. He started feeling sick, so I had to take him to the doctor and I left. Like that was. The whole thing lasted like a couple minutes.

Wait, do you think he felt sick because of the substation or the in n out?

I think he felt sick because he didn't get a chance to have in and out. Actually, no, it wasn't. We didn't make it. No, he. He has some health issues.

Okay.

All right. So that's unrelated.

What.

What's your order? What's your order at in and out.

You know what? I like the animal style. Protein animal style. And I'll get one double double with cheese. Yeah, one double double and then one with just single version. Then I'll get like fries and a vanilla shake.

Oh, hell yeah.

Do you get fries animal style as well?

I. I don't because my. My daughter has this Hack where you can get, you can just get the animal sauce. They'll give you like 10, 10 sides of animal sauce, and then you don't have all the cheese on it.

Yeah.

And the thing is she'll like, order more than me and I'll like, finish off her food and the cheese on her fries. So kind of just works out.

Do you like the fries at in and Out? Because I feel like that's the one. I like in and out in general, but I feel like the fries, like McDonald's fries are so much better.

I mean, McDonald's fries are the gold standard, let's be honest. Yeah, but I, I mean, you know what? I, I like any fry, honestly, so I'm cool with the in and out fries.

You get the in and out fries well done. And if you get them well done.

I need to do that.

They're a little bit more crispy and so they're more like. They're still not the McDonald's fries because nothing is. But. Yeah, I, I was going to ask another question about in and out, but I. We should probably go back to the 49ers thing. Who, who, who tipped you off to the 49ers, or did you come to come to this conclusion on your own that you need to go check this out?

I gotta, I gotta call out Chase senior. He's a YouTube commentator who covers the Niners and the Eagles, I believe.

Okay.

And. But I should be clear. Like, I grew up in the Bay. I love the Niners. I love the Raiders too. I love all NFL, actually, just to be clear. I like watching teams that aren't my own, so I don't feel stressed about who wins or not. So I went to a Niners game a couple years ago with my daughter. She really wanted to go. And we were going up the back steps and I saw this substation. I was like, that's weird. Like, makes me feel weird. And then this year, Chase Senior called out an interview with John Feliciano where John was saying, you know what? We think that it might be the substation causing the injuries. And he was joking, but he also wasn't joking. And then he went on to say, there's some very high, high level players on the 49ers who believe that this is causing the health issues. And then he left it at that. And I think that clip has been scrubbed. Honestly, I cannot find it. I found it two weeks ago, can't find it anymore.

And are the Niners more injured at like, are they injured at a higher level than every Other team or is that just noise?

So here's my understanding. I'm not a stats guy. I'm, like a wellness guy. Well, I don't want to say I'm a wellness guy. I work in the industry. But, like, I eat fries from In N Out Burgers, so don't lump me in with those people. There's a guy named Aaron Schatz. I believe his name is Standard, and that's where I got all my data from. And he showed that by adjusted league games lost or something like that. Adjusted games lost. They were, like, in the bottom third or whichever's worse, the bottom or the top for 10 out of the last 11 years. And then the year before that, they weren't. And they went to the Super Bowl. And then the one year which they weren't in the past 10 years, they went to the super bowl again. And that's the one where Dre Greenlaw snaps his Achilles tendon, running from the sidelines onto the field.

That's right. Are there any measures that a team could take if. If this was an issue for the 49ers? Is there anything they can do to protect themselves from these waves while they're practicing? Like, does I. I remember watching Was it Better Call Saul? Where his brother was afraid of electricity, so he, like, wrapped himself like somebody that just finished a marathon. You know, put the. Put the aluminum blanket on or whatever. Yeah. If you made, like, copper undershirts or something like that.

Yeah. Like tinfoil helmets or something. Yeah.

Guardian cap.

Yeah.

I don't know. The thing is, it's a chronic exposure issue, so it's not so much the acute, like, while they're there playing something. But I think my suggestions is more about. So when we talked about cellular dehydration. So you got to do things that increase hydration at the cellular level, and that's like, basically without making your guys glide. Eyes glaze over again. It's things like red light therapy and, like, getting outside and getting your bare feet on the soil and just kind of hippie stuff. And then you can do other things, like molecular hydrogen. There's. There's all sorts of things that can be done.

What would you say, though, to people who are so. So my understanding, like, the Niners have a real. A lot of really good players. So when those really good players get injured, we notice more.

Yeah.

Like, there might. There. I think they weren't. I don't think they were the most injured team this year. So is it maybe a little bit of a confirmation bias? Because we Know who George Kittle is. Cause we know who Christian McCaffrey is. Cause we know who Fred Warner is. So when they get injured, it's news. Whereas it's actually they're not the most injured team. They just have a lot of really good players who happen to have gotten injured.

It's totally possible. You know, I'm not wedded to my theory. You know, I heard about this and I got. It happens to be my area of specialty. And I looked into it, like, there's some real mechanisms here. And, you know, I didn't get close enough to actually prove that the facilities have that exposure. But, you know, to get on touch on a larger point, it's not just the magnetic fields, it's all of the wireless that we're using all the time. Wi fi, cell, Bluetooth, everything, which has increased dramatically over the past 10 years, and particularly in Silicon Valley, where there's just very, very high density of this stuff. So, yeah, I could be wrong. It could just be confirmation bias. I don't think so. And I pretty much staked my reputation on this.

I actually appreciate you saying that you could be wrong because I think that that's part of this is like, when these theories get thrown out, if you're stuck on one side and you don't. You will not acknowledge that it could be something else. That's where we get a dangerous spot where it's like people are saying, no, this is exactly how it is. No, this is. We don't know. You're just throwing out something that could potentially have an effect and maybe they should look into more.

I exact 100%. And just to get more specific about one thing, like, one of the things I mentioned, my article was the circadian rhythm disruption, which has to do with light exposure at different times. Teams in the NFL are already taking this seriously. Brock Purdy wears those blue light blocking glasses.

Oh, I need those.

Yeah.

Are those good? Should I get those?

They are, yeah. Yeah. You should hit me up afterwards. And I'll recommend some. Some really inexpensive ones.

What time do I put them on at night?

You put them on basically at dusk. But, like, if you can. If you can, like, you know, I'm not. I'm not one of those guys who's like, you got to live a perfect, like, do everything exactly right all the time at all. Like, so if it's like, you can put them on like in two hours or an hour before bedtime, great. You know, like, do what you can do.

I'm looking at a list that I found Right here. It looks like the 49ers missed in terms of games this season. They missed the seventh most in the NFL total. But the, the impact of the players that they missed was quite a bit higher. They were third in terms of. They call it total points missed. And that's from Sports Info Solutions. That I guess kind of weighs it in terms of how important the players were in theory, for how many points they could have scored. I, I was thinking more about the substation that we have right here next to our office, because we are in a position where we could do some legwork, some field research for you.

Yeah.

Can we design a study that could, that could put this to the test? I was thinking. And you can tell me if, if this is just completely off base or not. We go out, we buy some really nice steaks, we get some good rib eyes, and we leave, let's say six of them right next to the substation that we have. And then we take the other six and we put them also outside, further away. It's cold here in Chicago, so the, the, the danger zone in terms of temperatures. I don't think we're going to get above refrigeration levels. Then we put six more stakes on the other side of our building, far away from the substation. Then we wait maybe a week, and then we have one of our co workers cook up those steaks for us and we eat them and we see which one is more tender.

I think that's a great idea. But I worry about wasting a ribeye. I think I might go for like a New York steak or something else. It's just like a little bit like.

Yeah, I kind of just wanted to eat ribeye steak.

Okay.

But yeah, we could do that too.

I think you should find some test subjects. So you, you eat the nice one, eat the one that's not near the, the substation, and get somebody else to get the one that's right next to it.

Oh, I thought you were saying that we take like two different people, we give them like a baseline concussion test, and then we send them, we have them stand outside their designated areas for like 12 hours, and then we bring them back in, re. Give them the concussion test, and we see if one got worse than the other. Yeah, there you go.

Where, where, where did you study all this stuff? Like, how do you, how do you get into the line of work that you're in?

You know, that's a long story, but basically I spent a large portion of my life very unwell and just hitting the wall. Over and over again, just my whole life falling apart from illness, marriage, falling apart, like everything you can have happen. And I finally figured out what was going on when I learned about this circadian rhythm stuff. And it was such a radical transformation that I all of a sudden had all this energy to pour all my energy into this stuff so I can learn everything about it and help other people. And I've been doing that. Sorry, go ahead.

Yeah, no, no, keep going. You've been doing it for how long?

I've been doing it for about six years. But two years ago I left my, I was working in tech and I left my job and I dedicated all my time. I've been in a hole for two years. I didn't watch a single football game until a month ago.

Wow. So, all right, so what, what's the things that we can do to, to better ourselves like on a day to day basis in terms of circadian rhythm and, and, and like getting that energy?

Yeah, I think it's really simple stuff and it's all free. So basically you want to do your best to protect yourself from artificial light before the sun rises and after the sun goes down, but especially before it rises, because that's the signal that sets your clock for the day. So if you're going to get those blue blockers and you wake up before the sun is up, put them on and then right when the sun comes up, go outside, take them off and stand outside for three minutes. And if you can't get outside, open your window and look outside. Make sure it's open though. And if you can't do that, then just go outside as soon as you can, as early as you can. And I think the magic number is if you're going to miss the sunrise, you want about 30 minutes outside before, around 10am and that's gonna go a long way just to getting your clock synced up. And then at nighttime, sun goes down. I want you guys to go have fun and live your lives and stuff. But you're not out having fun every night. When you're at home and just chilling, just put your blue glasses on to look cool for your roommates or your wife or whatever, your kids, I don't know, they can let them make fun of you with your dorky glasses on and go to bed early.

Yeah, I remember back in, I think it was 2016, 2017, there was a trend of sunning your perennium, exposing yourself to sunlight in the darkest of black holes. Is that something that you've ever heard about or looked Into.

I've heard about it, and my friends tease me about it because they think I'm the kind of person that would do that. Never tried it. But there is evidence that if you get sun on your boys, that your testosterone will go up.

Okay.

All right.

That's. Yeah, that's good.

Trying to get. I'm just trying to get higher. T. Yeah. All right. Well, Peter, I had one last question for you. Rollback question. Rho, B, A, C, K.com promo code. Take 20 off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code, take. My last question for you is. So we actually were at the 49ers facility. Was it, like, six years ago? Seven years ago, I think.

Seven. Yeah.

So is there anything with the substation that would make you hungrier and unwilling to pay for your meal? Because we were sitting with Peter King at the stadium, and we bought him in and out. I bought him in and out, and he did not pay me back. And I'm trying to figure out, like, it's been kind of gnawing at me for seven years. Why didn't he pay me back? Is it maybe the substation?

I think it probably be the substation. And then like, just all the. All the frequencies within the field because of all the fans and everything.

Yeah. Yeah.

But I think that's a bummer. And he should definitely buy you some. Either some Internet or there's this place called Smoking Pig Barbecue.

Okay.

In the stadium that has the best burnt ends I've ever had. Okay. He should buy you that.

Yeah. All right. Well, he has the opportunity to make it right.

Yeah.

The ball is.

Yeah, he should buy me some, too. I don't know who he is, but he's got my name.

Yeah. Yeah. Peter, Buy. Buy all three of us in and out or Smoking Pig. Burnt ends? Is that what you're saying?

Yeah. Well, and we'll bury the hatchet because it was clearly the substation that made you so rudely not pay us back.

Yeah. We won't hold it against you anymore. And we won't. You know, we have called him selfish. We've called him cheap. We've called him a bad, bad friend. Really. And we'll stop doing that if he. If he does make it right. I. I had one more question for you about the. The electromagnetic frequency stuff.

Yeah.

I've heard doctors say, especially doctors that have a history of. Of treating sports injuries, that they do use electronic stimulation on the muscles, on, you know, things like that to encourage growth yeah. So where. Where does this disconnect come in between A little bit of it or some of it can be good, and then also it can be bad at the same time.

Are you. So it depends on what you're talking about. I did see the NFL doctor guys talking about, like, pulse dmf.

Yeah.

Is that what you.

Yeah. So that, you know, that's a very controlled exposure for a short duration. And I would point out that the person that was basically responsible for creating that therapy is Dr. Robert O. Becker. Pointed out that you have to be very cautious with that kind of thing because if you did too much, you could cause issues with growing tumors and that sort of thing. Then just things like tens units and stuff. Since we were Talking to the 49ers back in the 60s, there was a statistical anomaly of ALS, Lou Gehrig's disease among the 49ers players. And there's a theory that it had to do that they were overdosing the tens units. So, you know, I'm. I'm careful with any intervention. You know, I try to subtract things and rather than adding things and.

Yeah, okay.

Is it a possibility that our exposure to the substations has caused us kidney stones?

That. That might be all the, like, Diet Coke you're drinking.

Okay.

Yeah, probably. Probably.

Probably.

All right, well, Peter, thank you so much for joining us. It's gotta be pretty crazy that this whole thing went viral, right? Like, did you wake up one day, you're like, holy shit, everyone's talking about this?

I mean, yeah, on January 6th, my kids had come back from their moms because we got a custody thing. And I always. When they were with her for Christmas, I celebrate on the 6th because that's the epiphany. And so we had a Christmas celebration. I posted the thing, had a Christmas celebration, closed my computer for 24 hours, woke up the next day. It was at a half million views, and it was going up by a half million every hour or so. And it's been nonstop ever since. It's been really fun. The whole world thinks I'm a conspiracy theorist. And, yeah, I'm just writing it. It's amazing. I can't think of anything that has ever happened like this as far as in pop culture, EMF exposure, getting anything other than kind of like what you mentioned, the Better Call Saul, crazy tree treatment.

Yeah.

People are taking seriously, and I'm happy to be the one here and take all the hits, because I can take it.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay, awesome. Thank you so much, Peter. Really appreciate you joining us?

Yeah. Thank you so much. It was fun to be here.

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So love you, Pug.

Love you, Pug. Pug is. Why don't you tell everyone? Pug, you're not. You're not. You're not. You're not leaving the company, but you're leaving us.

You're going too far upstate.

Yeah.

Love you, boys. It's been a. It's been an awesome four years. I'm going.

I'm from the east coast.

I'm from Jersey originally, so I'm just.

Going back to the east coast and.

I'll be working in the New York office for the post production team. So I'll still be at Barstool, but unfortunately won't be with the show anymore.

But it's been a hell of a ride. Yeah.

We're going to miss you, Pug.

We're going to miss you.

You've been a great addition to part of my tag Pug all time vibes guy. Oh, everyone loves Pug, except Max. Sometimes yells at him about the Eagles, but I love Pug.

What do you mean? Yeah, he does love Pug.

A couple times.

If memes doesn't love Pug, if the justification of whether I like someone is yeah, if I yell at them about the Eagles, then I like zero people on this. That's true.

That's a fact.

You didn't make Shane storm out of that dinner one time.

Yeah, you were the. Did you sleep with an onion guy.

The onion comment.

It'll go down in history. Yeah, we. We loved having you part of the show, Pug. You're, you're the best. And for people who don't know, Pug is editing all of our videos and his works, he's the guy who, you know, when we finish it at midnight or one in the morning on a Sunday, he's here till four in the morning. So he's always, you know, kind of one of those behind the scenes guys that needs more. Thank you. And we thank you Pug. And we understand, you know, you're going. You bought a house?

Yeah, bought a house. Central jersey. So Ms. Pug, it's getting, getting real Pugettes.

Maybe some Pugettes.

You have a litter.

We'll see.

We'll see.

Oh yeah, Pug, we love you.

What should we do with the name Pug?

That's up to you guys.

It's kind of.

Well, we, we had only one. Yeah, but, but so, I mean, I think AWS will appreciate it. So Colton, who's also you, I think AWS have been introduced to a few times. He is going to be taking place. He's going to be taking Pugs place. He's very, very funny guy. He's from Arizona. He wears the big shirts. Yeah, he's the man. Big T. Just a cool vibes guy. We were thinking that kind of like ugga, when, when Pug leaves, we just make Colton Pug. He's Pug too. Well, what we were really thinking of never addressing correct. And just doing like an Aunt Viv Fresh Prince character change and just having like what the fuck, colton, just say 99 pug every time and see if people realize that, realize what's going on.

Yeah, I think there, there can only be one Pug and that's, that's our Pug.

What can there be two?

There might be able to be Pug too. I, I, I don't know how I feel about it just yet because Pug is Pug's Pug.

Pug is Pug. But I also don't want to lose having a Pug. Well, we do, we do have some.

Continuity with Colton and I because I.

I had the lactose thing going on and Colton has celiac, so.

Oh, that's good.

It's actually, it's almost the exact same thing. We're filling in with what even is stomach.

So we're going from lactose to gluten. So we're, we're continuing, you know.

All right, you decide if you want, if you want Colton to be Pug. Pug 2.

I think he might need to find his own way I don't know, like.

You know, let him develop.

Let him develop something naturally, you know? Cold 40.

I like big tea. That was pretty good.

Big T. I don't. People won't remember that.

He does need a nickname, though.

Yeah.

I think let it happen organically. Okay.

Over time.

Pick the number 45. Every time.

Yeah, you'd be cold 45. We don't need to, like, just every time. Like, we'll get worse. The pug thing just. The pug thing wasn't planned.

Sometimes. Sometimes the pug thing was similar to the Bubba thing, where it's like, we need. We need one.

Yeah.

Spider guy named Pug. Spider girl. Spider girl.

That could be good.

Yeah, that girl. Okay, we'll. We'll. We'll go with Colton for now and we'll see if something pops up. Up. It's pretty much when we find a fun name and we're like, oh, that would be cool to have that guy in our crew.

Yeah, that was Bubba.

Yeah. That's all we just need is. We just need to find, like a horse or. I don't know. We'll figure it out. We'll let it play out. All right, Hank. We love you, Pug.

Love you too.

Oh, he could be Big Dom. Oh, now there's only one Big. Now that's a good nickname game.

There's only one big dog, but Hank would hate him.

Stop. Stop it. Hank. Firefest.

Go.

Oh, who's hosting the show? Anyone who's being rude to Big Dom loses privileges.

Man just took away your privileges.

Hank just got your privileges.

Stripped is a privilege. My fire fest is.

I'm.

I'm going under and I'm. I'm a 32 year old man, but I'm. I'm scared.

You've never been on there.

You're. You're getting the penis surgery.

Not the penis surgery. Not the nose job. Not the nose job. I probably need a nose job.

I think your nose is cute.

Not. Not the chin implants. Not the penis reduction surgery.

Breast. Breast. Breast implants.

Augmentation. No, I'm getting wisdom teeth removed and I have to get like a. Another tooth removed in addition.

So you're going full under.

Full under.

Knocking you out. I think that's the way to go.

Knocking me out.

I will not.

I don't think I ever told the story.

Yeah, I was gonna say, how do we get to a point where you need to have two teeth removed? You sound like a dog.

Well, you're. It's your fault, but I won't blame.

Oh, it Is. How's it my fault?

You just ordered so the Super Bowl Sundays and food. But it's my own fault.

I put that food in your mouth.

I got a sweet tooth. You know. You know, I have a sweet tooth. I've always had sweet tooth, tooth. And I think this is a result of that.

I did.

I think it probably was. This is the tooth I have a root canal on. And I don't think I ever told the story, but I. And I will not be doing this. I will be taking it easy and resting all day Saturday. I'm not gonna make the same mistake twice. I told you guys knew about it in real time. I didn't say it on the show because it was a crazy setup circumstance. I don't know how a video or picture never got out. I got oral surgery. They gave me medicine. They never said anything about not drinking on it. They never. Nothing on the medicine label said anything about not drinking on it. I went to a conc after the concert. I was eating, and I passed out in a plate of nachos and had to get taken out of the restaurant on an ambulance with, like, stoolies and stuff, like, yelling. I, like, kind of was like, come to. And I was, like, getting taken on a stretcher with people being like, hey. And I was like, it looks like I just, like, overdosed in this.

Yeah.

What was the Mustang Harry's?

Mustang Sally's.

Mustang Sally's.

Yeah.

Bad, bad scene. All time bad scene. Will not be doing that this time. We'll just be resting all day Saturday and then hopefully, people. I've gotten varied reports on wisdom teeth surgery and how long it knocks you out for or how long you're droopy for. I'm hoping I'm just 100 for Sunday so that when it's like, third and six, I'm not just like, you know, I can. Oh, he's got to fight back. Yeah, I can fight back.

I think it is Mustang Harry's, by the way. Yeah.

So you. I. I had all four of mine taken out probably 20 years ago. It took me out for, like, four or five days. But you're only getting one out, so I think you're gonna be okay. I took. I got all four of mine out.

In high school, and it took me.

Out for one day.

I heard pine. If you drink pineapple juice, but you.

Can'T, like, eat anything. You're just holes in your mouth. Yeah, I. I just remember the next day I went to be. I didn't. I didn't play baseball, but I Went to baseball practice the next day and.

Like, watched the practice.

You saw baseball?

I was good enough to watch baseball.

Baseball.

So, Hank, if you drink so you'll.

Be able to watch football. Exactly. That's kind of what I'm thinking.

If you drink pineapple juice.

What?

I heard if you drink pineapple juice the night before, there's no pain.

Okay.

No, you'll have one day of pain for sure.

Did you hear that from Peter Cowan? What?

Someone told me that I believed him. Someone I know.

Okay, I think you're gonna be out of it, but you get to, like, eat ice cream. We have ice cream here.

Can we get a video of you out of it? It.

Yeah.

Owen is. Is going. Can you please.

Henry after dentist. Yeah, yeah.

Sugar free ice cream.

Henry bit me.

No sugar.

And then my other fire fest is. Yeah. Max planed a goodbye lunch after I told him.

So you hate pug.

I would.

I forgot. I. I planned a pug goodbye lunch.

I also, I had said in the group tax, like, hey, I'm gonna be getting the surgery Friday morning. I'll be out of it all day Friday, all day Saturday. Then like, an hour later, Max, like, hey, planning this goodbye lunch. Can you make it Friday afternoon?

I kind of forgot.

I kind of. Sometimes you just don't think. You don't. You don't remember things. Yeah.

So.

Yeah. Sometimes you don't think. I also. Yeah. Max booked it at a place where Cheese. I back. I booked. I booked a. Lacked a lactose place for sure. It's called Cheese. No, it's an Italian restaurant that specializes in pizza. That would have been very fun if the place was called Cheese.

It's a fondue restaurant.

Yeah, it's just Cheese. What's on the menu?

Cheese.

I didn't think about that when I booked it, but it's a good place.

I'll have fun.

We'll take a couple lactate pills. Doesn't.

Whatever.

Yeah, you'll be fine. All right. Good fire fest, Hank. So you'll be out. We are streaming, by the way. Saturday is. New York is streaming the first game. We will be streaming the night game Sunday. We'll be streaming the whole day. Zach, Eddie Means and I will be going to the Bears game.

I will be there Sunday. I'll not be there Saturday.

Okay, maybe still a bit Saturday.

No. 0.

Yeah, just show up for a little. Yeah, just come. Come for a little. No, what if you. What if the only thing you can eat is ice cream?

I will have ice cream.

No, but, like, soft serve.

No, I'll be at home.

You need soft serve after that.

Coming for a little.

No, pick me up.

Pick you up. Okay, done. I'll pick you up. I'll absolutely pick you up. Okay. Pft.

My fire fest is I caught whatever it was that Zach had bad and I've got a bad case of it.

Cryitis.

What do you mean?

Zach crying?

He's been crying.

I heard that. Zach cried on. That's.

That's her.

That's his. That's his.

Okay, we'll get to that later. No, when. When Zach unfortunately was a little bit late the other day, you know, we, we were sitting there, we were waiting for him. And the very next day I was supposed to show up at the office at 8am I woke up at like 8:05am and I looked at my phone. I was like, I don't remember. Maybe I forgot to hit save on my alarm. So it didn't go off. So I panicked, drove to the office, got here about 50 minutes late because there was snow on the road. So it was like really hard to get in at that time. And just the whole day is thrown off when you start your day in a panic like that that you never really catch up and ever get calm over the course of the day. And then this morning I'd wake up barstool, which starts at 7am So I usually wake up around 6am for that set. Made double sure that my alarm was set last night because I can't miss that. And I woke up this morning at about 6:20 after my alarm got into work with plenty of time because I just like ran out the door.

But. But then I started to think about what was going on and I got a new sleep blindfold. And I've told you guys about the, the Bluetooth, the wireless that you like fall asleep on. The new one that I have, I guess the alarm goes off through the speakers of the blindfold and in the course of the night I kind of wiggle my way out of the blindfold. The old blindfold that I had. The alarm, I guess the blindfold would shut off in the middle of the night.

Yep.

And the alarm would come out of the phone.

Yep.

The new one I think comes out of the, out of the blindfold itself. I'm glad that I pinpointed what it was because two days in a row having that kind of mistake, very nerve wracking. Driving into the office before I figured out what was going on.

Yes.

I was like, am I just. Did I become. Did I. Did I catch it from Zach and Now I'm asleep to the alarm kind of guy, so.

Zach, it happens.

We actually.

Hank and I were talking about it on Wednesday or whatever day it was, and Hank was saying. He was like, I can't really criticize that because I've done it. And I was like, yeah, I mean it. Real Max memes and I, I think, are the only ones who haven't slept through something. So you're. You. It's 3v3.

You shouldn't even say that out loud.

Why?

Because I probably will at some point. You're a beast. Yeah. You are a beast. Sleep. Yeah, Sleeping.

I just kind of get up.

Yeah. So look, Zach, you're good.

Yeah, you're good.

It happens.

But I did blame you when I. The first thing I did when I got to the office, I was like. Like, yeah, Zach did it yesterday. So I. I think I caught it. That's completely understandable. Yeah.

Definitely transmitted.

Yeah.

So next time we go on a trip, Zach, we're gonna. We're gonna test out my internal alarm. Remember I told you? I. I think. I'm pretty sure that I'm at the point where if I don't set an alarm, I will still wake up within five minutes of when you tell me to wake up.

What if it's a wake up arsenal day? Yeah, we have to get up early.

I do. On Tuesdays. I. I set my alarm for six o'.

Clock.

I'm up. I'm awake at 5:45 every single Tuesday. It sucks because I just wake up before I should be out.

Well, that's kind of what I did today, because I. No chance in hell do I normally wake up at 6:20am yeah, but this morning, it was like I panicked in my sleep and I knew that it was time to get up.

Yeah.

Yeah, we'll test that out. Maybe at the Internet Invitational when we're. When we do mega bed again. So you're almost predicting your alarm. Yeah, I. I wake up five minutes before my alarm every single day. Day. No matter what. I. I haven't heard my alarm go off in a long time. That's huge. But it also sucks because I'm just waking up before I need to wake up. And sometimes it gets really bad where it's like I'll wake up an hour before for no reason and just be up.

Hank, what if. What if Instead of the $50,000, what if I just gave you the opportunity to win a share of $2 million? Which would you rather have? Oh, wait, no. What would.

It would depend on what. What the what the share is?

Well, I guess it would be like a third of about 2 million ish dollars. So whatever that math is.

Yeah, we're not math guys. 600, 650,666.

Isn't the invitational 10 million?

Oh.

Oh, is it?

That's what. That's what they said. I don't know what the officials.

There's a lot of numbers. That's a lot of upside. Hey.

Yeah. Would you rather take $50,000 the day after the Super Bowl?

Well, no. Wouldn't it be the day they go to the super bowl, then they have to maybe.

50,000. It'd be less than two weeks.

Yeah. some point during super bowl week, would you rather have $50,000 or the opportunity to win up to a third of $10 million, which would be $3.3 million? There's like seven board apes. You'd rather have the 50?

It would depend. I mean, we're. I'd have to see how your golf game is.

Yeah, let's see where it is.

My golf game? Yeah. No, I'm saying what if you had the opportunity to win it for yourself.

Hank, you could also just take the money now and then invest in PFT later.

That's true.

That's true. I will be accepting investors.

I will be.

We'll see. We got a long way to go.

I'll be investing. You like Mincy. You just play for free.

I'm opening it up to investors.

Yeah.

Something to think about. Something to chew on.

Someone chew on?

I shouldn't have said that.

With your teeth.

Sorry.

Okay. My fire fest. I alluded to it. Clogging toilets. So one thing that happens when you have little kids is you do not have privacy whatsoever. So the other night I was. I was taking a. And my 4 and 2 year old not only came into the bathroom, but, like, brought their toys in too, while I was like sitting there and started, like playing with their toys, just watching me. And I clogged the toilet. So then they had to watch me unclog the toilet and then finish up. And it was just an entire. A lot of questions being thrown around, a lot of things being tossed around. Just an absolute debacle. Like, if you think. Think clogging a toilet's bad. Wait till you have a four and two year old watching you every step of the way and being like, what are you doing? Why are you doing that? Why? Why'd you stand up? Why? What's going on? What's that plunger?

The funny part is they're probably Going to go to school and. Or like, daycare or whatever. And they'll be playing house. And then they'll start to unclog a toilet. And then the teacher will be like, what are you doing? Oh, my daddy showed me how to unclog a toilet because he clogged the toilet, dude.

It's crazy.

Crazy. There's no. There's no. There's no barriers in my house anymore. Like, with every single week, once a week, no matter what, I'll be taking a shower and then I'll just look out the glass door and they'll just be a little person staring at me. And I just like, where the fuck did you come from? That's just how we operate. So it's. It's quite something. And I am also, like, concerned. At what age is it like, we're. We're putting. We're putting lasting memories. I don't think four is a lasting memory, but I think we're getting close to like, six is definitely a lasting memory.

Six is. Yeah. You start to remember things like dad clogging toilets.

Yeah.

Super Bowl, Coke cans, things like that.

Yeah. They did bring it up the next day, too. So that was. That might be a lasting memory.

Yeah. Yeah. If it's imprinted in there, for sure.

Yeah. They're like, remember when you clogged the toilet.

Thanks a lot.

Appreciate that. Okay, Zach, my favorite versus week is a quick one. I. I don't know if it was due to either a poorly timed screenshot or maybe some AI, Some of that new tech.

I've been having a battle like crack.

Cry accusations all day today. Everybody thinks I was weeping and sobbing online.

Yeah, not good.

You were crying. These are.

My ducks are so dry.

What happened to Bush?

They were doing some. Some pool play to get into the challengers leap bracket that they did successfully make it into today.

Two games a week today on that.

But it was just an ups and down. The end of the map was up, some up and downs. It was very stressful. And this screenshot is maybe doctors, but, like, you're crying. Why did you cry? It's okay to cry. All emotions are valid. It's definitely okay to tear up. And it's even okay to sob if you need to sob.

Oh, you're crying. Zach, we're watching the video. This is not a doctored thing. You're crying.

There's no tears. I might have. I look sad. I definitely look sad, but everybody just thinks I was bawling. It's happy tears.

Yeah, those are happy tears also. Maybe Your fire fest, Zach, you forgot to. To share with the awl is a key piece of the story about your dad firing you.

We did talk about a little bit in more in depth on the yak, I guess if there's. If this is added information. My mom did also work there, so it was a family situ.

We're all. So you went home to dinner, and both parents were coming home from the office that you had just been fired from when you.

It sounds a lot worse.

Yes, that's exactly what happened. Yeah. Because I had asked you. I was like, would your mom at least have your back at dinner? And she's like, no. She actually worked there, too. Yeah, she was probably.

She was. She was working hard, continually staying employed, and I was. I got canned. When you woke up the next morning, did you wake up in time to go to work?

No.

The next. The entire evening, you just stay up, do whatever, because it's like, all right, I just got. Today. Can't get any worse.

We just got fired.

So maybe I guess just fire up the game. Yeah.

Maybe grab B. I don't know.

But just. There's nothing to look forward to the next day except for more employment, hopefully next day. Did she give any. Any pep talk or words of advice?

No. No.

They're like, it'll be okay. You know, you'll figure it. You'll figure it out. So, you know, it was like those years of, like, trying to figure it out. I'm still just trying to figure it out, but, you know, one. One day at a time. But you're doing okay now. Yeah, one day. We'll take it one day at a time.

Yes, sir.

That's right. I had to.

To have.

I don't think. I think we're done with the sleeping in stuff. I think this is the last we'll hear that.

Ah, he also said on the ACT that it might be a seasonal thing, so we're predicting three more this year.

That was also gun to head, though.

I wasn't.

I wasn't gonna throw any numbers out anywhere, but they pulled out weapons.

But I think if he. If he sleeps in for. If. At least he set a line so he slept in once Winter. If he has three more this year, we can't be that upset because he. At least he said it.

What do you mean by seasonal? Because the.

The.

The advertisement that we did, that commercial, that was not winner, was it?

That was his fall.

Yeah.

Sleep in.

So is it. Is it like quarterly?

Yeah, it's quarterly. He's not saying the past has been Seasonal.

It's the future.

It will.

Well, no. The past also has been seasoned now. The past has been. I think. But we're. But that's why we're past. Micro seasonal. We're getting better. Like fall summer, some fall, winter, past.

Might have been transitional seasonal. Yeah.

So quarterly.

Worst case.

We not. We hit our quarterly. You hit your. You hit your goal for the quarter.

Bad day. We're on time today. We're gonna try to be on time moving forward. Best of our ability. You're super on time today.

And I'm spreading it now.

I'm sorry. You got the. You caught that? Pft. I shouldn't have spread that. It's on me. Yeah. It's okay.

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It is awesome. So that will be debuting after the Super Bowl. This one we're just basically running up the spring score. Everyone's gotten it. Colton has not gotten it. Colton, would you like to say something?

Colton, have you ever gotten it?

Colton, have you ever gotten it?

No.

Okay. Numbers.

90, 36.

Oh, 98. You can't. Hank already got 98. I thought he got 90. Didn't you just say 98? Two.

Nine.

Nine.

Pot. Whoa. That's a lot of pressure. There was a lot of pressure there.

All right. Everyone else Guess. Then Pug will finish everyone else. Guess we do it. No, keep going. 14.

14.

All right, wait. Let Jack and Shane guess.

66.

2. I'll go 18. Here you go.

7.

18. What did you say? Pft.

I said 36.

Okay. Yeah.

99.

Pug. There we go. Love you guys. This would be awesome.

Come on.

This would be an all time. I would be so sick.

Oh.

98. You son of a. You son of a. Actually winning now is the worst time to win. I've thought about that.

Good point, Max, because Max has thought about this.

I have. Because this really means nothing until we get the. No, no, no, no, no. It means the fact that you just in your. And wait. No. Who has the longest streak without getting it now?

Not me.

Oh, bitches. It might be me who just said it doesn't matter.

Oh, no.

Oh, no.

I actually don't think. I think it's bfd.

Oh, I think it might be next.

Wait, but just so we're clear, you won it on Pug's final day. And you, you're going to lunch tomorrow.

I'm going under.

Okay. So you hate Pug.

Yeah.

We're not seeing Hank till next week. All right. What? What? What? Let's see who's got the longest streak now.

I think it might be me.

Oh, no.

Oh, no.

319 days.

Longer than days.

Yeah, it's me.

Oh, pft.

It's all right. We're getting rid of this machine soon. And we all go to zero.

Yeah, we all. Hank had the longest streak. 333 days. Wow. You might be at negative 40,000 at that point.

What?

I don't know. You're gonna give heck that money?

Are you talking about how much money I will owe him?

Are you rooting for the Patriots?

No.

Yeah, he is. He is.

No. Wait, so you're rooting for the Texans? Yeah, Texans and Broncos.

I'm going to miss them. I'm going to put the biggest bet of my year calendar year on the Patriots again this weekend.

Let's go.

It's the ultimate emotional hedge spot for me.

Just keep stacking money. Yeah. Yeah.

Worst case scenario, I lose my. I. I would gladly pay that much money for the Patriots to lose.

Well, yeah. Then you could bet 40, 000 on the Patriots next week.

Yeah. Or you could just bet them right now to win the AFC championship.

But if I bet 40, 000 on the path Patriots next week and the Patriots lose, then I owe DraftKings $40,000 instead of you.

Enemy of my enemy.

Yeah.

Is DraftKings the enemy of you.

Bad. That was bad analogy.

Yeah, I think the thing is my friend, you're not thinking about. I would rather pay DraftKings $40,000 than pay you $40,000.

You're such a piece of for getting the number in. Pugs fan. We were one away from just an all time vibes moment for the whole crew.

Bad guy, bad guy. Winners win.

Winners win.

You are winning football. Love you guys. Oh, hang on. I didn't look up birthdays. Stall, hold, stall. Memes. Do some ad lib.

Dante Moore didn't want to go to the jets, so he's back in Oregon. We didn't talk about that, but I'm talking about it now. It's okay. I think it's gonna be good for the Jets.

Don't have a quarterback, don't have a.

Defense, have one wide receiver. But he got so many picks. We have a ton of picks. We have so many picks. I go to. I go to sleep every night just thinking how to rebuild the jets and it's just never going to work. Every scenario just comes back to losses.

Happy birthday to Lin Manuel Miranda and. And Aaliyah. Rip. Love you guys.

It. Sam.