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On today's part of my take, presented by DraftKings Super Bowl 60 is set, and we're going to talk about Conference Championship Sunday. We had two very different games, but we have a Super Bowl rematch. Patriots and Seahawks are going to be playing in two weeks in in Santa Clara for the Super Bowl, for the Lombardi. We're going to break down both games. We're going to talk about Mike McCarthy to the Steelers. We have Who's Back of the Week. We have Fastest Two Minutes, and it's all brought to you by our friends at Game Time. The Game Time app gives the advantage back to fans. It's the hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in just a few taps. It's incredibly easy to use. The game time guarantee means you can trust you get 100% authentic tickets on time at the best price. Plus, fees are always included, so what you see is what you pay. Now with the big game coming up, there's no better way to buy tickets than through the game time app. You can save even more when you choose a section and let game time choose a seat. Hank, what are we looking at for the big game?

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Hey, football guy, but D-No. A-w-h.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Welcome to Part of My Take, presented by DraftKings.

The Crown is yours. Today is Monday, January 26th, and it is NFL Conference Championship Sunday.

What?

What? What? What? Did you throw in a what?

What? You threw in a what?

What? Yes, boom.

Okay, boom. What? Hank?

Yes, boom.

In Denver?

In Mile High. Jared, SD-Diam, got the scoring started early after tossing a Clemente at a courtyard Marriott-Sutton. Then on a fourth and 1 at the Patriots 14, R. J. Hampton-harvey had his shot blocked down for an incompletion after a tremendous His play call from Patriots defensive coordinator, Zack O'Kerr. Two drives later, Jarred P. Steady dropped back with a looped-up ball, but Christian Larry Ellison looked like an Oracle who could see the future and forced a fumbal. And a what, and a whop. Patriots recover. Drake May made them pay with his legs, scoring on a six-yard skaper. Then came the snow.

Andy Aurora Pagora-Rogales put the pats up three with the only made goal goal of the game.

And then, after being given prime field position, Will was looking like a put after missing a game-time field goal that was tipped by Lawrence Superman. Taylor, the third with the game on the line, third and six. I forgot to finish this boomer, but Drake may put the game away and ended everyone's Patriots haters' chances of winning the game.

Don't act like you're reading boom.

You're not reading boom. You're I'm not reading anymore, boom. Another trip to the Super Bowl. You're not even reading. The New England Patriots.

You're not even reading. Pft is sick. Pass her in the soupy. They win. Ten, seven.

Thanks, boom.

No problem, boom.

Okay, and we head out to Seattle where the needle was dry. Sorry, T. J. Watt, for the NFC Championship game. The Seahawks came out hot with the Collectibles king, Kenneth Brandon Walker, as he gobbled up yards and told the crowd to keep hollering. The Rams answer with two field goals from the great Cornholio Mevis and Butthead, and then opened things up for Kyren Serena-Williams. And he said, Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, on the way to a Rams' countdown. But they forgot about one man. I'm sorry, Ms. Jackson, Smith the Jigma. He is for real. Never meant to make your cornerback cry. I apologize a trillion times as a Seahawks going to halftime with a 17 three lead.

And then the second half, the LGBT Hawks came out and said, We are all bobo-sexuals. Ha ha, come on, Jake. I see you've been smoking PCP, Jake. As Seattle, Denzel, Washington, At a bobo quake, the Rams responded with not Devante Friday, not Devante Saturday, but Devante Sunday. Catching some chocolate rain made me catch a cool to your countdown to make it 24/20.

But Alex Cooper hit him with the Cup Cup 9000, sucking up Darnal's balls for some big catches and a score to put the Seahawks up big before Tarek.

Wouldn't it be nice if you were smarter and you kept it to yourself? Wouldn't it be nice if you were nicer and left the field on fourth and 12? Wouldn't it be nice? Then Puka nuclear caught a bomb. But the Seahawks came back out and took control of the field and put their throes off the Ram's asses, leading to a Super Bowl reunion of Mike and Mike. Hey, Golic.

Hey, Hey, Mike. Hey, Golik. Hey, Greeny. Hey, Greeny. I'd like to say we're dedicating today's episode to 100 flowers.

Promo code Mike and Mike. Top left corner of your screen. Promo code Mike. My wife doesn't let me eat grapes. It Unless I'm using a fork and a knife, Mike. I'm a nerd.

I'm a jock.

That's wild. The Seattle Seahawks are going back to the Super Bowl. 31: 47.

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I love doing this show with you guys.

Smiling in our face.

This is the best show, and I love you. I'm a happy guy.

Our boy's a champion.

Patriots 10.

I do this every Sunday.

Yeah, every Sunday. You're exactly like this. Patriots 10, Bronco 7. What a game. Afc Championship game. It was an ugly one, to say the least. The Snow showed up hard in the second half.

Oh, yeah. That was a clean, pristine green field for the first half, much of the third quarter, too. Listen, I love watching snow football. This is what they're trying to take away from you. All the dome stadiums that are being built right now, if you want a Super Bowl, got to have a dome. Every team wants a dome. They're trying to steal snow football away from you. Honestly, if you watch this game, I agree with it.

Well, okay, but here's the thing.

I love snow football.

I know. Everyone's talking about how bad this game was and how the weather affected it. It was the same in the first half. There was no weather in the first half, and it was 7: 00 to 7: 00 based off of one Jared Stidham bomb to Marvin Mims, and then one Jared Stidham Dodo play, where he just threw the ball and fumbled it backwards, and the Patriots scored. So it's not like the weather made this game ugly. This game was going to be an ugly survival of the fittest type of game from the jump. That's how it was. The Broncos defense Played their ass off. The Patriots defense played their ass off. Both quarterbacks struggled, and Jared Stitt and his tail couldn't get it done.

Yeah, not built for the cold. We got into a debate during the game on whether or not the tail was good or bad for a quarterback. I think we came to the conclusion that a tail on a wide receiver would be awesome. Yeah. Right? Tail on a quarterback, maybe not the greatest thing ever. But I just want to say I want to be the bigger man in the situation, and congratulations to Hank. You were right. You said week zero, you're going to have the best team on the podcast?

Well, he also said three years ago, the Patriots would be in the Super Bowl in five years.

He did. For $50,000. Listen, like I said, I am done fighting against Hank. I'm done fighting against Patriots fans. You'd have better luck rooting for the tide not to come in. You'd have better luck rooting for the sun not to rise in the east every morning. That's where the sun rises, Hank. It's on the east side. You'd have better luck rooting against your- Hank knows that from his luxury condo that who overlooks Lake Michigan. I was also thinking the time he spends on boats, he's probably very familiar with the tides.

We're going to get into Hank in a minute. But this is just- How if you hate him, you don't hate him enough. The way he has planned for the next two weeks.

The way I see it is you've got two options. One, you can keep fighting. You can keep dreaming the impossible dream. That's another Don Quixote reference, Hank. I'm sure you've finished that book by now because it's been so long.

Do they have... Pft, do they have Don Quixote? Do they have the chapters of Don Quixote in the golf simulator?

They don't.

Okay, so then he wouldn't have finished it.

No. You can keep doing this. You can keep fighting and hoping and praying that nothing good happens to the New England Patriots, or you can just choose to profit off of it. I've made the decision to just profit off of it because it's inevitable. Starting now, I've made the decision. That's good. Patriot Super Bowl. That's just what's going to keep happening over and over. Is there just a franchise that has a horseshoe shoved up their ass and You can accept it or you can fight against the inevitable and be miserable. I'm choosing love. I'm choosing to love the Patriots from now on because Hank was right, I was wrong. Congratulations, Hank.

The bet that you guys made, which is still ridiculous because I remember so vividly sitting in that, whatever it was, like a courtyard Marriott in the middle of great week, I think it was in Buffalo. We were eating. We had some pizza. It was late after a long day.

Probably Lenova Pizza.

Yeah. It was a bet that was made that it was Mc Jones' Patients, and PFT said, The Patriots won't be back in the Super Bowl for five years. They shook on it, and it was a $50,000 bet. This is three years into it, four years into it?

I would have had one more year.

So it was four years into it. They're back in the Super Bowl. You owe him $50,000, and it came on a third and six to ice the game.

Yeah, but I actually think that Hank should be thanking me for that.

I agree with you on this one. I agree with you.

Josh McDaniels very clearly listens to part of my take. Yeah, as he should. Because there were two third and sixes at the Patriots had today. One, they ran a draw play. They handed the ball off, didn't let him pass it. Second one, they told Drake May run the football.

Again, they- They actually didn't tell Drake May. He just did that on his own.

Well, maybe Drake listens. He listened. Maybe he listens, and he knows that his one weakness is third and six. So his completion percentage on that down being twice, two times lower than the league average. So they obviously listened to the show. As I told you at the time, Hank, this was to warn Drake May. They listened to me, and you won the football game. So maybe you should be thanking me for this victory. You should.

Yeah, I'll be the bigger man. Pft. Not hard to do. Stat hole. You were right. Yeah. Stat hole. He did his work. I don't know how many hours you had him working on Drake Mays stats this year, but it turned out to benefit the Patriots in the long run. So thank both of you guys.

I did it out of love.

All right, let's just do it, Hank, because then we can talk about the Broncos, because the Broncos have to be sick with how this game went. Absolutely sick. Because it was as winnable as winnable could get for them. They were a Jarrett Stittam. Just basically, going into the game, they had to say, Hey, Jarrett Stittam, don't do anything really, really stupid, especially in the shadow of our own end zone. And he did exactly that. Then they also had at the end of the game, the bad punt, which the Patriots had bad punts all day. The Broncos had good punts. The bad punt that got them the ball, the Patriots 33, they get basically no yards. They get a field goal blocked. And then we find out afterwards, Will Lutz said they couldn't see where the lines were, and they lined up a yard closer than they should have been.

Oh, wow. So it should have been a penalty. No.

No, there were six yards behind the line of scrimmage.

You don't understand football, buddy. They were closer to the line of scrimmage. That's not a penalty.

Got it. Okay. That's not a penalty. Also, if they had lined up correctly, it wouldn't have got tipped.

Sweetie, that's not a penalty. That's just you can line up wherever you want to line up.

Got it. I thought you were talking about the center, but that's all right. No, no. You're right. I don't know, Paul. I just know championships.

You do. You just know winning.

It's a sickening game for... I think nick Benito said it's sickening knowing that we were the better team. Well, you weren't because you lost. You can't say that. Knowing we're definitely the better team. No.

I have a question. If Bo Nicks starts that game, do you think the Broncos win?

Yeah. Well, Patrick Stratan retweeted a tweet from someone saying, Safe to say Bo Nicks would a Bo'Jangle fried these. Word I can't say.

That's a shame.

Is that true?

We'll never know.

That's also true.

I would say no. You could say yes. Embrace debate.

The Stidham fumble is just one of the all-time. Like, Dude, just take a sec. And then also, Sean Payton, you're fourth and one. You're an underdog with your backup quarterback in the AFC Championship game. The game has gone perfectly for you to start the game. I do like coaches that are aggressive, but at that point, it's like, Dude, take a two-score lead.

I was okay with going for it. I hated the play call. Why Why are you putting the ball in Stedham's hands right there? I didn't like that. I thought it was the right thing. If you can get that first down, you can get a touch on that drive, that feels like a very, very winnable game from that point on for the Bronco. I'm not going to knock Sean Payton for being aggressive. I just didn't like the play call on it.

I don't know how much advance. Obviously, they knew more. My very limited, I searched the weather app maybe this morning or last night for Denver, and you could see at five o'clock, the snow emoji came in. I'm assuming they had more advanced report on what the weather was. So you would think, I don't know, did they know that that big of a storm was coming? If they did, that I feel like changes what they should have done.

Yeah, absolutely. I don't know if that's something you can change far in advance, but maybe wearing the neon orange jerseys going up against the all-white jerseys that you couldn't see at all. That, too. And the snow might have had an effect.

And also your defense was playing... The Broncos defense was lights out. They had Drake May in Hell. Other than the flea flicker to Mac Collins, it didn't feel like the Patriots offense ever had a big chunk play and that they ever got into a real rhythm.

It was the Mac Collins play and then Drake May running were basically the only big plays that they had.

Hank, you know I love Dreg May, right? Yeah, of course. My concern is, are you really that confident for long term when you have a quarterback that's run first?

I don't think it's run first.

I do think- Those guys can get injured.

Listen, he didn't play the best two quarterback games of the season.

I don't root for injuries, but if you have a quarterback that runs with the football that much, you're exposing yourself to a lot of hits and you can get injured. So I'm just concerned. That's all.

Yeah, that's a fair concern. I think Drake, as he gets better, he'll learn to stay in the pocket more. But when he needs to run, he runs, and he proved that. I think he has as many rushing yards in the playoffs as Tom braided. Tom braided has a bajillion more games.

But yeah, he-Great running quarterback Tom braided.

He did what he needed to do. I think he struggled both games in the weather. He didn't play his best football. I think the defense picked him up.

Yeah.

Here's A crazy stat. Right now, braided and May, through their first three games of the playoffs, Brady's completion percentage, 61. 9. Drake May, 55. 8. Not quite as good there. But then you've got passing yards, 572 to 573. Drake May has thrown twice as many interceptions as Tom braided did. Then they both had the same number of rushing touch downs, one.

I have a stat for you, PFT.

Kind of wild.

Drick May is tied for winning percentage in conference Championship Games. Jane Daniels is tied for dead last.

What do you mean? He's tied for winning percentage in Championship Games.

Like Drick May's winning percentage in championship games is 100%.

But he didn't include that part.

Jane Daniels is tied for dead last at zero %.

He's not good at stats.

Yeah, he didn't get all the stat out the first time.

He almost gets them.

Some of the stat got stuck. It got stuck. You're just so happy, and I love seeing you happy.

Take a glass of water. Drink a little water.

You guys can gaslate me and try and knock me down as much as you want.

That's what you're coming. Hey, here's the deal. Cometer always pays his bets. I know that it's been about six, seven It's been a month since you have owed me $10,000. I haven't seen that money yet. Is that true? Yeah.

You haven't paid him the money that you owe him?

Well, we said on the show, I said I wanted to... No, I gave him Sarlay's.

None of the Sarlay's hit. Those were throw away Sarlay's.

I mean, if they had hit, you would have taken the money out. That doesn't make sense. It was your idea to do the Sarlay's. Yeah.

Well, so none of the money was repaid, correct? Correct.

Fact or fiction.

Well, no. Fact or fiction.

Some of the money was bet per your request through Sarlay.

Fiction. But then you- Did you guys play golf?

We played golf.

We did play golf. Who won? Then I lost more money. Oh, and you didn't pay. Then we said, We'll see how the Patriot season goes.

Okay, so Hank, Comets are always pays his bets. Right now, I've got...

He's pulling out some cash. Here we go.

I've got $2,000 right here. Oh, wow. I'll put a dent in that. Now, here's the thing. I know you like games. I know you like to have fun. You're a fun guy.

You do like games. I'm a fun guy.

You like to smile. You like to hang out with the boys.

Please Can you tell me that you set up some version of Saw. It's like Hank is chained to that couch and he can't get out.

Not quite. I mean, pretty close. I talked to Zack last week. We went ahead and we rented one of those cash cyclone machines.

Oh, nice.

That sprays the money up in the air.

I actually think you guys shouldn't have rented it. I think I still have one.

Do you really?

Remember I bought one three years ago? No, I forgot about that. I think it's somewhere in this office.

Okay, well, now we got a second one. Okay. Hank, it's right outside. If you wanted to now or if you wanted to after the show is over, you can go. I'll pay back to you $2,000 at a time in 42nd intervals where you'll have to catch all the money in the air.

Okay.

It'll be fun. It'll be a fun game for you. It does sound fun.

Yeah.

Hank, now I have a question for you. Would you be willing to potentially do a double or nothing on the Super Bowl?

Because that would be a lot of fun. I have been thinking about the money. For content. It is a lot of money. I do feel like just vibes karma. I am going to donate something to charity, like 10,000.

So no double or nothing on the Super Bowl?

No, I want to give back before... I want to give some money back before I lose it all because then I would just feel bad this way. Chicken.

You don't believe? I believe. So then just do double or nothing. A hundred grand. P. F. Would owe you a hundred grand.

Let's do $30,000.

No, that doesn't work for me.

Double or nothing. It's double or nothing. No, it's double or nothing.

So you hate charity? No, it's double or nothing. I'm trying to give money to charity.

I love charity.

If you do Double or Nothing, I'll give $5,000 as a charity right now. Free of charge.

Hank hates charity. All right, fine.

I'll do that. I'll do that. I'll do that. Okay. Dana Farber Foundation. Do you want to do that?

Do I want to? Well, see, Big Cat made it sound like he was offering the double. I offered Hank to double or nothing off the air beforehand, and Hank got really scared and ran away.

He got scared as fuck. I said, I don't know. You said Big Cat was bullying and you have to do it, you have to do it. I said, I don't have to do shit. You got to scare me. But if you're going to donate five grand.

Yeah, I'll do it.

Dana Farber. I'll do it.

No problem.

So 80 grand?

Yeah.

Just straight up.

Money line. Yeah.

I love this.

If the Patriots win the Super Bowl, you give them 80?

You owe them 80 grand?

Well, this sucks because I ran into the cash for $1,400. We can still do some fun with it. But that's okay. We'll have some fun with the cash machine.

I'm sure Big Cow will be able to take care of the cash.

Yeah, we'll take care of the cash grab.

We'll have some fun with the cash machine. You feel good about that?

Yeah, fuck it.

Yeah. Okay.

I love it. But you were hesitant at first.

I wanted to give. I was like, I feel like there's just so much good karma and good things coming my way. I'm giving it on your behalf. I know. So we're good. Yeah.

Great. Great deal, Hank.

And we sold a thousand- What is that thing you have there, Hank? So we- Just wait it for the listeners. It was a stroke of good luck. I was pretty upset with PFT and his troll dog toy. So this was in September, we got working. Shout out to the Barcal merch team, Pilar Allison. We got working on a PFT nome. I was like, I want to make a PFT, life-size nome. We got it developed. Obviously, not our normal merch. I think they got delayed from China, so they're going to get shipped out.

You're doing a great job selling this. It's a hell of a sail of fish.

We sold out 30 minutes. We made a thousand. We made a thousand. We sold all of them. We sold out in 30 minutes because when we made them, it was like, Oh, there's not going to be as big stakes. We weren't expecting this big promotion and this big flux of people that hated PFT to come, but with all of your Patriot slander over the last month or two. I think it's people that like PFT.

Yeah, I agree. I think that's a cool nome.

It is a great nome.

Describe it for the people. It's PFT as a garden nome?

It's a life-size PFT with a nice little belly, wearing a part of my take at home in the football.

It's such a funny thing. If I were to nitpick this, which I don't want to, the pointed hat is maybe a little bit-It's a nome.

Look up nome. Look up any nome.

I did look up nome. As a matter of fact, Hank, I thought that a troll doll of me would have been a much better idea.

But I like gnome. Because you just said, it's a troll doll. It's like you, a little short nom.

It's a troll doll. Listen, I'm not going to nitpick. I think it's very funny, and I think that maybe little PFT and little Hank will have some fun adventures together. Yeah.

Thousand people, part of history.

When you showed me that, you've been working on that. You showed me that two months ago. Oh, yeah. I was like, Oh, man, I hope this sees the light of day.

He's adorable.

It's perfect. Look at him. He is adorable.

He's got a footballer in his hand. It's very cool. I like it. I like it a lot, Hank.

Good job. Thank you. Hey, PFT, credit to you. Yeah. Unlike Hank, who bitched and moaned about the dog toy. Had a crisis. Yeah, had a crisis. You're taking this very well.

I think it's cool. I think it's an adorable little guy.

Hell, yeah. Yeah. We all win. Good job. We all win. We all win today. Yeah, we did. Charity, podcast made money, and now we got 80 grand on the line. 80 grand on the line.

80 grand on the line.

I shouldn't have done that. Big Cat. Yeah. I think we should have a conversation about the New England Patriots. I'm not saying it, but other people will have a conversation about them. I just want to be first to market to have the debate because you will see a debate similar to this.

Yeah, I have a feeling I know what debate you're going to come up with.

Again, for the record, Can we put a flashing bright letters on the screen being like, PFT does not believe this, but we need to ask the question.

You could say, Max believes it. You're just reiterating what Max said.

I was having a conversation with Max in the bathroom earlier, and he said, Do you think the New England Patriots are the worst team to ever qualify for the Super Bowl?

I don't think I said that.

No, I think you said easiest schedule, easiest path to the Super Bowl.

That's not what I said. Is this the worst a team has ever looked on their way to the Super Bowl?

Got Okay, that's fair.

But I mean, the question people are going to be asking on other shows, not ours, is this the worst team to ever make the Super Bowl?

I'm not a Super Bowl historian. Listen, you play the games in front of you. It just so happens that in front of them has been Justin Herbert with no offensive line, C. J. Stroud, ass.

In the snow. What about the defense?

What about the defense? What about the defense? What about the defense? What about the defense?

Defense has been very good. I said that.

Defense has been very good. You guys have had great weather luck, too, which, again, you play when you play. I You said a weather look. You've had great weather look. You said a weather look. You had all time weather look.

A blizzard started the second you guys took the lead. And also in the Texas.

That is true. My man said weather look.

Yeah. I'm just saying. I'm not having the conversation.

That'll be on SportsCenter. Weather look. Is it real?

Yeah. Hank has taught us weather's not real.

Rg3 did say that this is the toughest path that any team has ever made on the way to the Super Bowl.

Which he should credit me. I told Hank that he should start talking When all the haters come out and say, Is this the worst team ever to make the Super Bowl? Just be like, We've gone against generational defenses, the Chargers, the Texans, the Broncos, and now you play against the Seahawks. If you beat those four teams, you should be saying, We've had the hardest stretch of defenses ever.

The beauty about being in the situation, you guys never have been, but it's all talk. That's not true. When you're the team in the Super Bowl, all the talk around it is just talk. It's just people that have hated the Patriots for 20 years with Tom Brandy and Bill Belichick. That doesn't go away. That sticks with them no matter what they say, even if they're a national sports podcaster on TV as an analyst, they're just trying to discredit a team because of personal feelings and personal hatred. We're focused on the Super Bowl. The conversation about if we're the best, we're the second, it does not matter. All that matters is winning the Super Bowl. We have a chance to do that. You guys can talk all you want and grade the Patriots how you want and say whatever you want. It's not taking away the fact that in two weeks, we're playing for a Super Bowl. It is funny. Another one. It was made-A seventh one. The joke was made-fourth on this podcast since it's existed.

The joke was made a lot online, but spent all your being like, We got to be done with the Chiefs, and then the Chiefs were done, and then the Patriots came back.

That's what happened. Yeah, it feels different, though, when it's the Patriots. It's more fun.

Yeah. Oh, no shit. Yeah, of course. Of course, it is for him. You love the Patriots.

Can you just say the quarterback, say, If you win this Super Bowl, say the four quarterbacks with a straight face.

Justin Herbert, C. J. Stroud, Jared Stidham, Sam Darnal. Those are all top draft picks.

Jared Stidham was not a top draft.

Oh, sorry. Three out of four. My bad. You said all. So 25% of those were not. Okay. I'll take That's a good hit. What do you mean? 75% of anything is good.

So the opposite would be 25% of anything is bad, which is Drake May's completion percentage on 36.

Good one. Nailed it.

Hank, I got a question for you. Can we Just real quick for the listeners, just go through your schedule, if that's okay? I'll start.

We got to work this week.

Yeah, we got to work this week. Super Bowl week, we usually go Sunday. You're going Friday. What are you doing on Saturday?

Okay, this is where it's like, what are you doing on Saturday? What are you doing on Saturday? What are you doing on Saturday? Dealing with your kids, doing your hobby. That's your hobby. I'm asking you a question. You have sex, you have kids.

Don't get defensive. I'm asking you a question.

I don't care what Zack's doing. Zack's going to play video games. I was just asking you a question. On Saturdays, we do what our hobbies do. What are you doing on Saturday?

When you said schedule, I thought you were going to say, Okay, you had the Raiders Week one.

I'm asking you a question. What are you doing on Saturday?

On Saturday, PFT and I are filming a video for our YouTube. Where? At Spy Glass. Oh, okay.

We're golfing. Nice. Then Super Bowl Week. Super Bowl Week. Then I'm playing lefty.

It could be... What if I break the course record? It would be the biggest, most viewed video in the podcast history.

Pebble Beach.

Views for the podcast. Pebble Beach. Money.

Super Bowl week. Are you going to the Super Bowl?

I am planning on going to the Super Bowl. Where are you going to be sitting? I'm pretty sure. I don't know. It's 2BD.

You're going to sit with the people. If you had to guess, if you had to just take a wild guess where you're sitting in the Super Bowl.

Thankfully, one of my best friends in the world and my favorite people in in the world, Dave Portnoy, is very rich. I'm assuming we're going to have good seats.

Like maybe a suite?

Maybe.

Okay, so you're going to the suite in the Super Bowl. You're going to party all week.

Content. Again, that's content.

Partying all week is content. Then right after the Super Bowl.

I'm not partying all week. There's no plans to party all week. Again, Friday, Saturday, when you guys go home, Big High, you'll probably be with your kids again. Pft will be doing whatever with his fucking dog.

I can't wait. I'll be doing my- I'll be doing my- Kids and I'm going to fucking... My kids are 1,000% winning the Super Bowl. When The way we're talking about this, they're winning the Super Bowl. In 10 years, when we're still doing this podcast, and my kids are grown up, and I'm enjoying the fuck out of my life, and I can sleep in, and my kids are good kids, and they're teenage, and you have your fucking babies, and I could just laugh in your face and be like, All those times, you piece of shit.

I'll be like, Damn, I wish I was you, too.

Yeah, I'm going to get you.

But I made a choice. You made a choice. I made a choice to choose golf. You made a choice to choose kids.

Okay. Then you're going from the Super Bowl to Orlando.

No, I'll be back here. For more golf. For a podcast. No, I'll be back here. What a two weeks. Back here for work. Then I'm going to Orlando for golf for a planned work vacation, which you guys will be on vacation, too. Yeah.

What a two weeks. Hank, I got a question. You don't hate Hank enough.

It's exciting. They're going to win the Super Bowl. Let's all... Pfc is going to lose 80,000, and the Patriots are going to win the Super Bowl.

I just got done giving a speech. I'm done fighting the Patriots. Yeah.

They're 100% winning.

They are 1,000% winning this game. It's like I'm addicted. I'm addicted. See, exactly.

You're proving my point. You can't get away from it. Their defense is very good.

The Patriots defense is really good.

Their defense has been played great. It hasn't looked good, though, right, Max?

What?

Has the team looked worse going in the Super Bowl? All right, sorry. You said their defense looks good. All right, sorry. I'll give- Has the team look good or bad? That's half the team. Yeah, the other half of the team has looked bad. False. Have you seen the NFL? Trate made 86 yards today. It was a blizzard.

I was giving you a compliment.

The Patriots defense is good. I heard about you and PFT shit conversation. Who has conversations with that in the bathroom? What do you want me to fucking say here, dude? I was saying that the Patriots have a good defense. You said they look good, but before you said the team looked bad. So I'm just trying to clarify. All right, dude.

We've It's been way too long in this episode without talking to Memes. Memes, have you talked to Hank yet?

No. Memes wasn't here today.

What are your thoughts?

They just did it again. They just did it again.

This is a terrible day in NFL history. No one should be happy. It's sickening.

They're calling it the Memes Bowl because we're talking about the second game. Yeah. Hank's going to have this smirk on the whole week.

Memes, what do you think when you see Hank's face right now? So much hate. So much hate. Yeah. So much hate.

God damn it. I'd be happy for me.

You know what?

You would not be happy.

I was going to say the jet, but that's not where we're at.

You would not be happy, though. He didn't know his defensive coordinator.

Is that Kerr?

Is it the first time since 2010 that the AFC Championship game didn't have Tom braided or Patrick Mahomes in it?

That could be true.

It's just the Patriots again?

Yeah. There's only three teams.

Bills, Bills, Bangles.

No, there's only three teams in the past, was it 20 years? Can you guys name the third?

It's Cheece and Patriots. Jets. Yeah.

There you go.

Yeah, Jets Stealers. Jets, Colts. Yeah. Yeah. You know Hank is like- Stop smiling.

Wipe that smile off your face.

Can I tell you guys a side story about Hank? He's gearing up so this is going to be the best two weeks of his life. He's so excited. We're doing the three-on-three tournament again this week, and Hank has already tried to lobby to get drafted on the team that could be tanking because he doesn't want to get injured. He basically just wants to show up for five minutes and be out of the tournament so that he can stay healthy.

Hank, if you guys win the Super Bowl- That's a fact. Can you I want to spread out them.

It's a big money. We got a lot of people. I've been fortunate to win all these bets and win all this cash.

You said, No, I don't want to get hurt because I got two weeks of just fun.

Hypothetically, let's say that the Patriots win the Super Bowl, you're there in the suite with Dave Portnoy, living the high life. You play the best round of your life at Spy Glass left-hand. That's not happening. You just said, Wait, if you break the course record.

Yeah, true. Keep it coming. I play the best.

Then you go to Disney World, you ride the rides, probably with Drake May, on Space Mountain with them, doing the whole nine yards. Where would that fall in your best weeks of all time?

Oh, man.

Because you've had a great question.

Why did you do this? Great question. We'd have to see just how things went, how the conversations went. It's such a high list. Nothing is ever going to top the duckbow with Missoula. That was the greatest day in my life. The summer of Hank. It would be below that, but there's definitely a good chance it He's going to slip into the top three.

It could. You could be in a top three week.

Yeah.

I got a question. Fucking hate you. He's the worst. Look at the smirk.

He's the fucking worst. I know. I want to be happy for my friends, and I want to see my friends do well, The smile. That damn smile.

Does Mike Vrabel have to cut off his dick if the Patriots win this Super Bowl?

I don't know. I think you should volunteer.

Yeah, you should. You should take one for the team.

It's like when Missoula and you're shaving your head thing. You should volunteer as tribute.

I don't know the exact context of that. I don't know if that was like, I'll cut it off to win a Super Bowl this year when he said it, or if it was all time, because that would be a crazy statement.

Are you going to continue no naps?

Yeah, of course.

Really?

You have to.

Okay. Flight out to San Francisco?

Yeah, fuck it.

You're going to raw dog it for the people?

If I have to, yeah, I will.

I think you got a raw dog.

I will.

I'll be on that same flight, so I'll keep an eye on it.

I have to raw dog it?

I mean, you got to be locked in, right?

The raw dog is locked into nothing.

Yeah, but that's as locked in as it gets.

I'll stay awake. That's a challenge.

You will 100% stay awake.

Yeah, no naps.

Then the car ride early in the morning.

Listen, no fucking naps.

What about after the round of golf when you had a couple of cocktails in you, been outside all day, walking around?

No naps. What about Friday when you go out in San Francisco and you start partying, you go to a bunch of Super Bowl parties, and then Saturday, you wake up and you're like, All right, I'm a little tired, maybe.

I'll just sleep in.

Okay. What about halfway through the week when we've done a bunch of interviews and me and Big Cat are waking up early talking to everybody, and then you just start to drift asleep in the middle of our third podcast, usually on Thursday afternoon.

That's usually-It's a taxing week for you. It's a really taxing week.

Yeah. Listen, you have a nap that week.

Usually, it's been a while since we've been in a Patriot Super Bowl week, so it's like it is a different I'm not just going there for laughs. For a podcast. Yeah.

You're going there for drinks and golf.

No, we got a job to do. Again, the golf is on an off day. You can do whatever you want on your off day.

Wait, Hank, that's not an off day. I thought it was a week.

Where are you working?

I'm choosing to do overtime. That's right. You're not. You're doing whatever in your off time. I will be on the clock. Yeah, big time.

Hank, clockwood. Yeah. Time and a half.

I actually thank you for doing that. You're Because I know you don't want to go to Spy Glass again. No. That's the last place you want to be on Earth.

I got to do what you got to do.

All right, what else? I got one more question. This is another one that you'll see other people talking about, not us talking about. What are the Patriots really good at?

Their defense has been playing great.

Yeah?

They also... Their substitutions, on the-Their substitutions? Yeah, on the Stidham pick, the Broncos made subs, which then gave the Patriots opportunity to make subs. The clock was running. The Patriots players basically got off the field with four seconds left before the ref moved the ball and the Broncos were rushed. Stidham was rushed through a pick.

So big on substitution.

Great substitution team. Great substitution.

They are, yeah. Situational football. They did it with the chargers, too. Remember when the chargers were driving and they were like, They should keep the team on the field so they can't sub? And then they did, and the Patriots were able to switch out their defense.

But most teams switch out their defense when they get the opportunity to match up against packages.

But yeah, they did a good job with it by taking as much time as they possibly could. They used the rules to their advantage, which is good coaching.

I agree. By who? O'kerr. What's his name?

Zack Kerr. Okay.

The block field goal was huge, obviously. We thought it was just a miss. It was going to be a hard field goal to make. Leonard Taylor said afterwards, I just jumped in the air and got a taste of the ball. No ditty. Good that no ditties are still going on. It's just replaced no homo. You could just say that.

It's funnier.

If you're the Broncos, you got to be just sick to your stomach that you had a... This was outside of Stidham's fumble was basically the exact game plan and layout of how the game goes that you needed, and you had it.

I've got a stat here. This is, close your ears if you're a Patriots hater. The fewest points per game on offense in the playoffs for a team to reach the Super Bowl, where would you think the Patriots fell in that list? Wait, say it one more time. Fewest points per game on offense in the playoffs for a team to reach the Super Bowl.

I don't know. Low.

Yeah, they're the sixth lowest to ever get there.

What about the other teams at the bottom? Do they win or lose?

Washington did win. I don't know. You have to go back like 40 years, basically, to find it. With the exception of the Patriots in 2001, Tom Brady's first season, they averaged 13. Second season? Yeah. Okay.

I want to make sure you were right.

2001, wasn't that Tom Brady's first season starting for the Patriots?

It was. Okay. It was the second season.

Okay. Tom Brady's First season actually playing as the starter for the Patriots. They were the most recent team to do it, and they ended up winning. Here's a fun stat from Jamie Eisner. The Patriots have won as many games since December 21st. First of 2025 as the Titans have won since they fired Mike Frable. Crazy. Kind of wild.

Now, what did nick Fowle say about this game?

Hold on. Actually, PFT, so I was waiting. We'll do I think it's the loser after the next game.

Oh, wait, he deleted the tweet.

He deleted it? Damn. That's actually a possible move.

When he delete it?

You can't delete that tweet.

Can't find it.

You can't delete that tweet.

Oh, no. Max.

Yeah, he shouldn't have deleted it. You can't delete that tweet, Max. You know you can't delete that tweet. That's not even a bad-No. It's a funny tweet.

That's why I'm wondering if he deleted it after the game or if he deleted it because that It was too mean for nick Foles.

It could have been too mean for nick Foles. Yeah. Could have very much. How? Because it's nick Foles.

Really nice guy. A friend of the program.

Very nice guy.

What's your confidence in Drake May going into the Super Bowl?

Ten out of ten. Ten out of ten? Yeah.

Why?

Because he's fucking Drake May. He's won games against three tough defenses. Sometimes-ceox also a very tough defense. I know. Sometimes in the playoff, so you play not so good defenses, then you run into a juggernaut. The Patriots They're up to speed against going against really good defenses, so this is just another good test. It's like he has learned from the last three games, there's not going to be snow issues, and he's going to ball out.

Record when team scored under 17 points. Justin Herbert, 2-16, Joe Burrow, 1-10, Josh Allen, 4-19, Patrick Mahomes, 2-7, Lamar Jackson, 3-7. Drake May, 2-0. In the play-offs. In the play-off.

Yeah. Again, I'm done betting against the Patriots starting now.

Minus double or nothing.

Starting now.

Starting right now. Right now. So you feel confident going in this game. We have a lot of time to break down the game.

A lot of time to break down the game. There's going to be a lot of 2014 Super Bowl. I'll probably go home and watch that. Like the NFL films, Do Your Job Tonight. Good memories for Patriots fans. Sam Darnold, I think, has horrific stats against the Patriots lifetime. I'm excited. I cannot wait for this game. I'm happy. I didn't really care one way or the other. I guess, do you want to wait for that game?

Let's do a couple of ads, then we'll do the NFC Championship game. Vastly different game in terms of watchability.

Before we get to that game.

What? I mean, it was.

Football. Which was a more entertaining game for you?

Oh, you're Mr. Football now?

Yeah. You're Mr. Football now. Also, Kurt Warner, sick to his stomach.

You're Mr..

Football now. Kurt Warner was sick to his stomach during this game. I don't even think you watched the first half of that game. I don't understand. I get I'm not like an exes in those. You weren't in the cave.

He was celebrating.

I was sitting... There's TVs in this entire office, you buffoon. You can ask. Okay. Colton, Jack. I was sitting here watching the game. He was watching tape. Pushing gnomes. Sold a thousand of them. No big deal. How many gnomes have you sold in your life? He's in the gnom factory. Okay. He's zero.

Hank is the best gnome salesman we got.

I might not know the most X's and O's about football, and I never claimed to know. Everyone's like, You don't watch the games. I have to watch the games. I've watched every Patri's game since this podcast has existed. I've been here every Sunday. There's documented proof. You're Mr. Football. I just said that. No, but I get.

Did you stop watching some of the games at the end of the back?

You were just not in the room where we were all watching football. I'm talking about- That's not like that crazy for me to assume you weren't watching the game. No, I'm not talking about you. That is a little... I'm talking about the fans where you don't watch football. I do watch football. I don't necessarily absorb all of it. I'm not a football savant, but I've watched every single Patri's game. I agree with the last 10 years.

Except for a few Mac Jones games at the end.

Not even. It's like we're still here. I'm watching the games. The games are on. I'm watching here.

President accountable for it.

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Com/promos for more details. Okay, NFC Championship Game. You good, Hank? We're good with the NFC Championship game? Why don't you stay locked in? Because we're going to talk about the team you're going to play.

And you love football.

After you play Pebble.

Yeah, let's do it. I think we're playing golf, too, aren't we?

I don't think we're going to have time. I wanted to, but I don't think I have time. We got to do a ton of stuff Super Bowl week.

I know. That was your offer.

Yeah, I know. But I just looked at the schedule. It just wasn't enough time.

It's all good.

It's all right. But Saturday, again, we were saying it because we just stopped so the Colton could get a jumpstart. This last Saturday was my first Saturday that I had off from work since Labor Day. But you're right. Thank you for working this Saturday at Spy Glass. I got you. I appreciate I appreciate that so much. Hey, a guy like me, I take a lot of Saturdays off.

Someone punches out. Someone else has got to punch in. Yeah, you're right. I'm passing the baton. You took the load for the last five months. I appreciate that. I got you for one Saturday.

Your watch is over.

That's why I got you. One Saturday at Pebble Beach, you got me.

Passing in the tours.

You got me.

Thank God.

No problem. It's like the foot steps in the sand. There's only one foot step. It's Hank carrying me on his way to spy glass.

That's exactly what it is. You're not going to be in the sand, though, because Hank's going to shoot a course.

That's true. He won't be in the sand all day.

I'm going to shoot a million, then I'm going to have the greatest day.

Okay. Nfc Championship Game. Seahawks 31, Rams 27. I want to talk a lot about the Seahawks, but in terms of the Rams first. Similar to the Broncos, they are going to be thinking about this game for a very, very long time because the two moments that stick out to me are the end of the first half when they get the ball back with a minute and 20, can't get a first down, have to punt back to Seattle, Seattle then gets the... I mean, Jackson Smith, the jigsaw was so good in this entire game. And then obviously, the muff punt. And you can throw in the fourth and goal where they couldn't convert. But that was a game that the Rams felt like they had, and Stafford was playing great, and they just couldn't. They couldn't get over the hump. They couldn't get that lead late that would cement them into the Super Bowl.

I would add in a couple of third and longs, too. Walker had a big third and long where he took it out of bounds, barely got there, and then Cooper Cupp at the end, stretching out for that first down, going across the middle. If either one of those gets stopped, there's a good chance that the Rams go down and score because their offense looked really good today. Yeah. And Pukunaku was basically unstoppable.

Yeah. Most of the day. Devante Adams is awesome. He was great. Their whole offense, I mean, Blake Coram, Kyron Williams. Yep. The Rams, Matthew Stafford in Seattle this season, threw for two games, 831 yards, six touch downs, and he went 0-2.

Yeah.

And that's brutal. And that's also a testament to the Seahawks, because this game, to me, Sam Darnold, the balls on him, the moments we've been asking the question for all season, Hey, is there going to be a moment where Sam Darnold just turns in Sam Darnold. He stepped up so big in this game, that throw to Cooper Cup to basically cement the game away. Just big play after big play to Jackson Smith, Djegba. He had the patience. He had the pocket awareness, never made the big mistake.

He is- That bomb to Shahid, dude. Yeah.

He was just awesome, and I'm so happy for him. Remember, we never gave up on two guys, Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold. One of them is now playing in the Super Bowl. It was just Seattle. The Seahawks defense has been awesome all year. The Rams have been their kryptonite, but they were able to survive.

Yeah, I think my big takeaway from this game is just I'm actually very, very happy for Sam Darnold. I am, too. I think that's awesome because Sam Darnal was thrown out when he was on the Carolina Panthers. He was like yesterday's trash, and they ran an offense that was completely unsuited to what it was that NFL teams expect him to do with Matt Rule. And then he goes to San Francisco and he says, I want to just be in a good place with good coaches for a little bit. I'll be a backup. I don't care. He plays with them for a little bit, learns, goes to Minnesota, has his career resurrected. Then Minnesota throws him out because they've got nine, which in retrospect, you get that. You got nine. You got to roll with nine. Then he goes to the Seahawks, and people are like, We'll see what happens with him because he had a bad end of his season in Minnesota. All the doubters came out of the woodwork, and they're like, This is the same Sam Darnold that we saw when he was going into Hyperdrive or whatever with the Jets. Was that the hyper drive years, Mims?

It was the Mono years. The Mono years. But the point stands. It's like everyone expected Sam Darnold to regress to what they saw at the end of his career with the Jets, his career with the Carolina Panthers, and those last two games in Minnesota. It's almost like people were hoping that that would be what Sam Darnold became when he was in Seattle. And all he's done since he's been there is win football games.

And he shut everyone up today with almost 3: 50, three touch downs. And like I said, just played almost a perfect game where Sam Darnold used his feet when he needed to for a couple of big plays, got a couple, sacked a couple of times. They were well-timed blitzes, by the Rams. He played a perfect game. Like, Sam Darnal shut everyone up. I'm very, very happy for him. He's a guy who, like you said, he's been bounced around and cast off, and it's like time and place matter a lot. And he has met the moment, and he's now playing in a Super Bowl.

And that defense is really, really good. The Rams lit him up a little bit, but that defense is legit. Tarek Wullen almost had the worst mental mistake that you could ever imagine. Well, he did. He did.

He had the worst two minutes that you could ever have on a football.

It ended up not costing them the game, but it very easily could have. When he broke up that pass, he probably maybe could have picked it off, but it got knocked out as Nkua, I think, right? Yeah. Who, by the way, Pukin Nkua, on balls that are interceptable, that are thrown in his vicinity, he turns into an all-pro cornerback every single time. He's really, really good at knocking the ball out of a DB's hands. But so he drops an interception. Then he barks at the other team, is told, Get to your sideline. He makes a beeline for the Ram sideline, starts talking shit to them like he's going to start a fight with them. It was fourth and 12. Refs throw a flag and just give the Ram's a first down. And then Sean McVay is very smart. He's like, We're going to go right at Wolf because he's in his head right now. Nekua burns him, catches a countdown. It felt like that could have been the start of the Ram's putting this away and the Seahawks having the most heartbreaking loss that we can remember. It really was.

It was that moment where you're just Holy shit. Did he just cost them a trip to the Super Bowl?

But Sam Darnold picked him up. Sam Darnold picked him up, and you also had rookies on the sideline getting into his face being like, Hey, dude, you fucked up.

Bad. Because it's like, that's a hard penalty to get called on, especially after the play, they don't really want to call it. When you walk up to an opposing coach and basically bark in his ear, they're going to call it. When you go towards their bench.

After the ref said, Hey, make a right. Go that way. Right.

You go towards their bench, and that's going to get called all the time. But yeah, the Seahawks. I mean, this John Schneider doesn't get talked enough about being an incredible GM. I saw the stat that's going around. He's the first GM to go to Super Bowl with two The same franchise, two different Super Bowl with completely new rosters and new head coach. Obviously, there's been some teams. Harry Roseman did it with two different head coaches, but there were some guys that were still on it. John Schneider did it with the teams in the early 2010s, and now he's back there. This also was like, think about the turnaround this has been for the Seahawks. When they get rid of Russ, and they bottom up, and then they get Gino, and they're frisky but not great, the draft picks, the free agent signing, the Sam Darnold signing, all these moves have been pretty much perfect to get back here in a two, three-year span. It's crazy. They close the book on Russell Wilson, and then they're back in the Super Bowl very quickly afterwards.

I thought that they didn't seem to miss Charbonet that much today. Kenneth Walker, he ran effectively.

The way he set the tone to start this game was phenomenal.

Yeah, so he got bottled up a little bit as the game went on, but I thought He looked good as the sole back, especially out of the backfield catching the ball. He played really well. The Seahawks offense, I thought, moved the ball pretty consistently the entire game.

Jack Smith, the Jigba is just- He's a Chico. His His hands are so good. He catches anything that's close to him. His body control. He's just an absolute phenol. We talked about it all year that he should be talked about as the best wide receiver in football, the way he played all season, and he's continuing it in the play.

They got an uncut Jim and Jake Bobo. Oh, man.

Jake Bobo.

Max Bobo. What a catch from Jake. What a catch.

What a route from Bobo.

Great route. He pieced him up. I thought Bobo did a great job on special teams, too. Drew a He was all over the field. Yeah.

He was my MVP of the game.

Yeah. It's brutal, though, for the Rams to think about how close they were. Because one, if they had Beaten the Seahawks on that Thursday night game, I think they might have had to still beat the Falcons, but they would have had home field. They would have had a path to home field in one seed. I don't think you can say... The Rams were in this game, so you can't be like, Oh, well, they're tired. But they They'd have to go on the road three straight weeks. The rest advantage was heavily on the Seahawks' side. It just comes down to these two games in Seattle that they were on a down-to-down basis, just as good. They just couldn't make the one or two plays, and they had the one or two mistakes that cost them the game.

Yeah, the third quarter of this game was absolutely insane. It was crazy. Then both teams tightened up in the fourth.

Here's the thing. We always joke about it, but I think in the playoffs, than anything, it comes true. Special teams. Because we make the joke, Oh, it's a third of the game because it's a cliché. Obviously, it's not as important as the offense defense. But when you get into the playoffs and the margins are so thin, special teams becomes so, so important and so magnified. If you look at special teams for the Rams all season, they have not been great. What happens? They get the Muff punt to a quick Seattle touch down. What happened on that Thursday night in week 15 or '16, whatever it was? The punt return that sparks the comeback. Special teams matter, and that's where the Rams, they could have the best offense. They have a great defensive line. If you make one mistake on special teams, it can mean that you're going home, and that's what happened.

Do you think that this is the last we'll see of Matt Stafford?

I do not.

You think he's back? I think he's probably back. Is he going to sleep in that weird cryo chamber the entire offseason? Yeah, Matt on Matt. I think the teeth need to get bigger.

All right, so maybe he will because he's tired and he's banged up, but it is not a situation like a Peyton Manning in 2015 or Aaron Rodgers this past year where his skills have diminished. He's still playing at the same level.

He's using the legs today, too.

So why wouldn't you keep playing? It's his choice, obviously, but you'd think a guy who's playing at this level would not want to walk away at this level, right?

Yeah, I would think so.

As bad as this one was. I have a list of- Do you think that the injury before the season when McVeigh was like, Yeah, I don't know if he's going to even be able to play football.

Can we look back down and be like, So that was a load of shit.

He'll do the exact same thing this year.

Yeah.

He just doesn't want to do offseason preseason.

He doesn't want to do 20K. Which is fine. Yeah, which makes sense. All right, so I have a list of biggest losers today. Do you guys want to go through it? Yes. All right. This is in no particular order. Wait, Hank, what are you smiling me for?

Pft is smiling, so I'm smiling.

I smile because tank smell. That made me happy.

By the way, PFT is not on this list because his bet has not concluded with you yet.

Of course not.

That bet is pending.

Why would he be?

I don't know. You're smiling at PFT.

I got a kick-ass troll doll. I mean, sorry, gnome doll.

Okay, so biggest losers. One, the Titans for the stat that you gave. What was that stat again?

Was it December 21st? Yeah. Since that date of 2025, the Patriots have more wins than the Titans have had since they fired Vrabel.

Since they fired Mike Vrabel, that's a brutal one. How about the Atlanta Falcons? Because they interviewed Mike McDonald and Mike Vrabel, and then hired Raheem Morris. That's definitely in the biggest loser's conversation. This one, I always like it sucks because he's not a loser. He's a very, very good football player. Devante Adams is now 05 in NFC Championship. That's brutal. He's never been to a Super Bowl. 05. That's so tough. I You think you have to throw the Vikings in there because Sam Darnold has shut up all the haters, and they're going to the Super Bowl with Sam Darnold. You basically said last year, they were a very good football team last year. They were a game away from the one seed, and playoffs go through Minnesota. And they said, Yeah, I mean, JJ McCarthy's our guy. And now Sam Darnold is taking the one seed to the Super Bowl. Yep. Russell Wilson, one of the biggest losers today. For one, Seattle. He wants to leave Seattle. He decides to leave Seattle. Seattle turns it around and gets back to the Super Bowl in pretty quick fashion. And two, the Broncos are in the AFC Championship game, and he is the highest cap hit on the Broncos.

His fingerprints were all over Championship Sunday. That's got to be tough.

The interception is going to be replayed for the next two weeks.

Yeah, good point. Also, really good point. Good point. I've already seen it a million times.

I think you got to throw the Bills in there.

Yeah.

Just because the last six years, they've been right there. Then we had the press conference earlier this week, and then the Patriots are just back in the Super Bowl.

That's really tough for Bills fans.

Yeah, that's tough for Bills fans.

The Dolphins.

Dolphins. Memes.

Yeah, memes. Memes, personally.

Do you want to talk about the Super Bowl matchup memes real quick? I mean, this is hell for you.

Yeah, this is hell, but good for Sam Darnold. Yeah. The Jets are a QB factory. They drafted a quarterback that went to the Super Bowl.

That's facts. That is a fact. Second time in history.

Yes. What else is on the assembly line of the quarterback factory?

Joe Namath. In the past 10 years, Gino Smith. He hasn't gone to a Super Bowl.

Yeah, but he still had a pretty good career.

Yeah, he made a lot of money.

In Seattle, he was good. Yeah.

But everybody, when they're on the Jets, they just have freak accidents.

Yeah. Gino Smith didn't go to a charity, broke his jaw out for the season. Sam Darnold, second season got Mono out for a quarter of the season. If you have two nucleosus, you don't have one. Aaron Rodgers, Hall fan quarterback. Achilles explodes four plays into a season.

Jack Wilson, pussy.

Did you see the Week 18 thing mean?

Yeah, but that was Bill Belichick's last game ever, and it's a loss of the Jets, and his life has fucking spiraled out of control since that moment. So I don't give a fuck that we beat the Patriots that day. By spiraling out, do you mean he's dating a smoke show who's also a philosopher? You're right. And a CEO? You're right.

Thanks more girls in his 20s than me. Also, Last Loser was us for that weird commercial with the fat guy. That one was weird. Did you guys see that? The Eli Lilly commercial, the guy breathing really heavy. It was so fucking weird. That one was weird. I don't need that commercial. He was like, I'm so fat. You're making fun of me. I'm fat. I thought it was a football player.

Yeah, I hated that commercial.

Yeah, that commercial. We all lost on that commercial.

Agreed. America did.

America lost on that commercial. Who else was big? I mean, that's a big list of- There's a lot of losers. Teams and things that happened today that you can look back at. The Falcons and Vikings got to be top of the list just because... Seeing the tweet, We just completed an interview with Mike Vrabel. We just completed an interview with Mike McDonald.

I would say altitude lost today.

Altitude lost today.

Drake may look great in the Altitude. Dude.

Mike McDonald, by the way, did you know that he's like a savant, and he could have been like a Wall Street Wizard?

Yeah, there's a lot of these guys that are coaching teams now that are like... Ben Johnson, he's a computer genius, right? He's a fucking order.

Yeah. Mike McDonald. Also, throw in the Ravens. Because that feels like a situation where if they had pulled the trigger on John Harbaugh a couple of years early, they could have had Mike McDonald.

I would say guys named Sean.

Guys named Sean. Bad day for a guy's name, Sean.

Really bad day. Really bad day. Bad day for Wetherman.

Actually, was this the first day in a long time that Diddy didn't have the worst day for a guy named Sean?

Yeah.

Puff Daddy actually is sitting in prison right now being like, You know what? Wasn't the worst day for a Sean, for me, specifically. I'm third worst Sean today.

I'd say for this entire year, Drake has had the worst day for guys named Drake. Yeah, that's true. Because how good he's been playing. That's true. Lighten it up. That's true. Filling up the stat sheet.

I mean, what a game, though. It was a great game.

It was a great game. The Seahawks are... I think that if you look at the entire season, the Seahawks have been the best team in the NFL. Yeah.

Because I think the other team that you could throw in that conversation is the Rams. They beat them twice when it mattered most in the last month.

Right.

You You agree?

Yeah. So I think we got a great Super Bowl matchup, the best team in the NFL and the luckiest team in the NFL.

Yeah. Yes.

Weather luck. Yeah. Weather luck.

By the way, I want you to keep it going.

It's just going to make it that much sweeter. I want you to dig yourself in.

I will. I will. I got no problem with that. I know. I mean, plant me in a garden. Let me dig myself in. I will. Yeah.

Put him in a garden.

Do you think if Lil Hank and Lil PFT went on adventure together, they'd have a good time?

Yeah. Maybe we take them with us.

Bring them along? Yeah.

I would like you to do that. I don't want him to have editorial control because remember, when we made the Hank dog toy, he got very upset.

He did, yeah.

You've been like, Hey, great. This is awesome. We did.

The garden home is awesome. I think it's really cool. I might buy a lot of it.

Your attitude is infectious, PFT, with how you've dealt with this.

You know what? For every one of these that's sold, I'll donate a dollar to charity. Love that. How about that? Since you love charity so much.

6,000 charity. Okay.

I'll match.

We're just charity-We've sold 6,000 already?

Well, no, 5,000 from Big Cap. Oh. Oh, okay. 1,000 from PFT. Okay. And I'll do 6,000.

Why don't we do it to the hat you're wearing?

Pete Frady's. Pete Frady's, yeah. Yeah. Punch for Pete. Love that. Als.

We love Pete Frady's. Yeah. Okay. Great. Look at this. The Charity Boys.

This is a show that gives back.

We're just Charity Boys over It feels good.

It feels incredible. It feels great.

We're just a podcast that gives back.

It feels good. Yeah.

Really good.

Do you think Matthew Saver is a chance?

What do you mean? That he retires? I think he's going to have a conversation with Kelly. I think we need to get Jerry back listening to the podcast, staying informed about that. He's going to think about it.

Yeah, he's got it. Especially right after the this season. It can't be fun.

I feel like he was so good this year, and the Rams were so good that it will be tough for him to walk away. But we'll see what happens. Do we ever get an answer on where the teams are going to be practicing leading up to the Super Bowl?

I don't know if we did.

Because we got to keep the Seahawks away from that substation. We have to for America. We have to. We definitely... Listen, do not let Sam Darnold within a mile of that place. We can't have it. His oblique is going to burst through his stomach like it's the Alien movie.

Is his oblique... What's going on?

He was wincing a little bit today. Not like, Carson, but he was in pain today. It was pretty clear that it's still... It's nagging him a little bit. So we just got to make sure he stays away from that thing.

Here's a crazy fact, looking back at this. The 2018 NFL draft for QBs was incredible. And Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen. We forget about Josh Rosen, Lamar Jackson, and Sam Darnold. And Sam Darnold is the first one to reach the Super Bowl.

Yeah.

Thinking about how many playoff games, Baker, Josh, and Lamar have all played. And Sam Darnold is going to be the first one there.

It is pretty wild. It's nuts.

I'm very happy for him.

Is this year by Drake May? Is that the best second year starting?

Well, I guess his- Season's not Is it the best second year since Dan Moreno?

Yeah, probably. Yeah, I mean, Dan Marino won the MVP that second year, and Drake May could win the MVP this year.

Yeah. Why do you ask? Very similar players.

Yeah. I think that if you- He went to the Super Bowl that year, right?

Yeah. If you look at that draft, I would say that Drake May is probably in the Dan Moreno position.

And then Dan Moreno went to that Super Bowl?

He went to the Super Bowl the second year. Pretty crazy. Hardly ever done.

That is nuts.

Drake May did it.

As a 23-year-old, I think they were the same age.

The same age, yeah. And similar stats, too. If you look at their touch downs or passing yards, completion percentage, all that stuff. Second year, it almost lines up perfect.

You're a football historian, Hank.

No, I actually, I said earlier, I'm not. I'm a Patriots.

But do Did you know anything about Dan Moreno?

Terrible interview.

Yeah, it was. We should get him back on.

Yeah, we should.

We should try to book him for the Super Bowl. In a van. In a van.

For the record, I actually have Dan Moreno's back on that.

What? Being a bad interview?

We just walked him into a car in a parking lot with two guys dressed ridiculously, no idea what was going on, and squeezed him in the back.

Our fault, I guess. No one else had a problem with it.

Yeah, Blake Bortles had no problem with it.

He knew what he was walking in.

I mean, he had no problem with it.

True.

Okay. Anything else from Championship Sunday? What a Sunday.

What a Sunday.

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So what I was alluding to earlier, we waited for is that I didn't really care either on which team we played in the Super Bowl. There is no better feeling than winning your commerce championship and getting to just relax and enjoy the second game. No matter what, you're playing for the Super Bowl, so whoever we play, we play. As the game progressed, I came to the realization that staff I mean, Sam Darnold's great. No disrespect there, but Stafford is better, and he's more experienced. He's been to the Super Bowl before. He's won. I was playing out a scenario where the Patriots are up three or up four, two-minute drive. Which quarterback would you rather be going up against, and it's Sam Darnold. You wanted Sam Darnold? I wanted Sam Darnold. Their defense is better, but I think the logic makes sense, and I think it will be a close game. I will go, I don't know, 28, 24, Patriots.

It's an interesting score that you put out there.

Was that the score of the Seahawks-Patriots Super Bowl last time?

I don't know. Was it?

You were there.

I don't remember the exact score.

Was that the score? It feels like that was the score. Was that the score, Hank?

You are-It was 28, 25.

Oh, wow.

Did you know that? Yeah. I'm not sure you did. I just wanted to hear you say it. I think you just said it, and then you're like, Oh, yeah. That's why I said it, because it's the score.

You're saying, though, that you wanted Sam Darnold? That's bulletin board material. Sure.

Slap it up there, Sammie.

He's so confident. I I got a funny story about Hank and Sam Darnold. Yeah. I don't know if I've told this on the podcast before. Oh, please.

Storytime with PFT.

But this was at the Super Bowl last year down in New Orleans, and we went out for Josh Allen night. We celebrated Josh winning the MVP. Had a little Great time. Had an awesome time.

We were very excited to be there.

I was so geeked out to see Josh Allen. We were all going our separate ways at the end of the night, and Hank just disappeared. I was like, Oh, I hope Hank made it home safe. I called Hank, and he responded. He picked up the phone. Couldn't really figure out what Hank was saying at that time. I was worried about him, and I didn't know where he was. It was very loud, and he was making all sorts of noises. I was like, What's going on? I'm saying outside the party, and then who walks out of the party but Sam Darnold leaving the Josh Allen party. He was like, Hey, PFT, what's up? I was like, Good to see you, Sam. He's like, Are you okay? I was like, No, I can't find Hank. I'm worried about him. He's not making any sense on the phone. He was like, Do you need me to help with anything? Can we try to find Hank? He was willing to go out and look for Hank with me. We were going to go hit the town, find Hank, bring him home safe because we were concerned about your health.

And then a car pulled up. He's like, You know what? I actually got to go. And so then he got in the car and he was like, Good luck with Hank. Hope he gets home safe.

Again, I started my whole entire thing by saying, No disrespect to Sam Darnold. Great guest on this show.

He was willing to risk his life to find you. He was going to find you.

Golfer. He loves golf. I love the video. He did a Bob Doe sports video. That's great. He's a great person.

He's a great guy. Jeffrey, I've never seen love golf. Did he? Yeah, that's a good point.

Oj really loved golf.

If he loved golf, he would have had a course on the island.

Oj loved golf.

That's a great point.

Oj love golf.

Oj love football. So do we. Okay.

But is love and golf just like that's...

I'm just giving him qualities of why I like Sam Darnet. Okay.

All right. Keep going. He also was going to find you.

Yeah, I was fine. I was having a great time. But no, it's no disrespect to Sam Darnold. This is where you guys lie and you guys do your bullshit middleman, whatever. We just like to suck everyone's dick. Your team is up the commanders, and I know it's going to be hard, but picture the bears or the commanders in the Super Bowl. Okay. You're up four. The other team has the ball with a minute and a half left, one time out. Would you rather be going and got Sam Darnold and You can't do who are their players. They're equal teams. They both have equal wide receivers, equal offensive line, everything. They have the same level of talent around them, same level of coaching. Would you rather be going up against Sam Darnold or Matt Saffer?

Sam Darnold today?

No, just their overall.

Sam Darnold today.

Well, you have to say today. You can't say their career overall. That makes no sense.

You're thinking you're going up in a jet, Sam Darnold.

No, I'm not playing against- No, I'm not playing against- I'm saying tomorrow. I'm saying tomorrow. Both quarterbacks tomorrow.

I mean, Sam Darnold could get a first down and get a touch down when he needs to.

That's a fact. That wasn't the scenario, though. Hypothetically, you're ignoring the hypothetical.

No, I'm saying today. Sam Darnold was awesome.

What about in the hypothetical I just said?

Well, it's also fair to say which team do you think that you'd have a better chance of being up for him.

Got it. Yeah.

My answer is I always believed in Sam Darnold, so my answer is going to be Sam Darnold.

Sam, because he tried to help find you.

All right, Matt Saffer.

Wait, wait, wait. That's Sam also loves golf.

He loves golf.

So Sam Darnold.

Okay, fair enough. We disagree.

You asked the question.

No, yeah. It's agree, disagree. That's the beauty of the show.

You don't think Epstein played golf?

No. Definitely played golf. I've seen those files. I don't see any pictures of him. I don't see any pictures on the course.

Yeah.

Right?

I feel like he played golf.

I think those would show up.

Max is looking right now, Epstein golf.

I always get mixed up. I didn't know his first name.

Listen, everyone who's listening right now, we're going to wait to make a final judgment on Jeffrey Epstein when we figure out how much of a golfer he was. Let's see his handicap before we really cast any judgment.

Yeah, I think if he did play golf, he's probably an executive course guy. Nine holes. The guy could never make it to 18.

We can't find any picture. So he didn't play golf. Good point for Hank.

Point for Hank.

Okay, let's do National Sports Podcast Talk and who's back in the week. Before we do that, PFT, you had a couple more ads.

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Okay, before we do Mike McCarthy talk, we do have the NFL rigged graphic that is now going viral because the NFL official account posted a Welcome to the Season graphic, 32 teams with February dreams. We're so back. This was on September fourth, 2025, very long time ago. But if you zoom into the graphic, it's players from All 32 teams. And then right closest to the stadium is Drake May and Sam Darnold standing next to each other. Nfl rigged. Nfl so rigged.

Front and center.

Nfl so rigged.

That's interesting. Very interesting. Now, have we looked at the logo? How does the logo reflect the teams that are playing?

I feel like you can see any color in anything.

Yeah, no, but I want to know how people are choosing to see it in this.

I would imagine, yeah, there's got to be some subliminal message that we didn't notice at first, and it was always there, and we fucked up not betting it. That feels like that's going to happen every single year for the rest of the time. Super Bowl logo had something. Oh, while Max looks this up, Did you guys see the Swaggy Ref in the Denver game? Who was that guy?

That guy is awesome. I don't know who he is, but he's rocking the zebra fur coat.

Fur coat. That guy. Zebra fur coat before the game. That guy's awesome. That guy needs to be reffing the Super Bowl.

I got to see. You know how we always see the tunnel cams of the guys going to the game? Carrying their bags with their headphones. I want to see the ref center. I want to see what they drive up and what they pull up, how they get out of the car, if they shake everybody's hand on their way through. Yeah, give me that.

The Super Bowl logo we're looking at right now, very uninspired. Oh, by the way, speaking of logos and everything and trophies, can we please go back to the old AFC and NFC Championship trophies? The They do want to suck. I know they've been around for a while now, but they suck. Everything has been minimized and made... It's basically everything has become an iPhone. The world has become an iPhone where all buildings and everything stadiums all look the same. I don't know what they're doing. I'm sure someone could look into it and be like, Yeah, they're actually making it so that we're in Big Brother. It's 1984, and we're all going to just work in the same exact looking house and everything. It's Severance or whatever it may be.

The game was at Lumen Field.

Yeah, that's true. The trophy, though, it sucks now. They've ruined it. They've taken it away. The trophies used to be awesome.

The trophy does suck ass. The Super Bowl logo is also suck ass now. It's almost like they figured out what the most visually appealing font was. They're like, We're just going to stick with this and run it back over and over again. You know why they need to go back to the old ones? Because sometimes they sucked. It's fun for us to look at a shitty Super Bowl logo and be like, This one sucks What the fuck are you thinking?

But this is what they've done to everyone. It goes back to, we need to start bullying this specific, the trophies and the Super Bowl logo, because remember, bullying did work with the NBA, which is the easiest bullied league by far. But with the Larry O'Brien Trophy on the court, that was a huge mistake. Sometimes the salvage is cool, guys. We could do this. We could have things still look like they used to look like. We don't have to make everything be all sleek. It just sucks. It sucks. The trophies suck now.

I agree. End of rant. I agree.

Sick of it. Okay. Mike McCarthy is a Pittsburgh Stealers' head coach, and boy, is that funny.

Listen, the Steelers had a clear objective with this hire. They were sick of getting to the playoffs and losing. So they hired Mike McCarthy to fix that. What's the issue here? What do people not see? Mike McCarthy, experienced coach, good offensive mind. If you want somebody to get over the hump, you go with Big Mike.

I think what probably happened was... Well, Art Rooney did say that they had three guys in. They had Mike McCarthy, they had Brian Flores, and who was the third? Who was it?

It was the guy from the Rams. Anthony Lynn? No. They also had the guy from the Rams. Sheilhaus?

Is that it? No, but I'm saying in person. I don't know if they had Sheilhaus in person. But they basically, Art Rooney said, Yeah, we had these guys in, and we just were really not... He said, We're really not worried about winning the initial press conference, about picking the coach you believe will help us win games, and social media really doesn't enter into it, and none of that will matter once we're starting to play the games. The message for our fans is we're very excited. We think we have a coach who's well-equipped to lead us into the next winning phase of Steelers football, and that's what it's all about. I think they're going to love Coach Mike.

Coach Mike.

Coach I was Brian Flores, Mike McCarthy, and Anthony Weaver. They sat down with those three guys. What I think happened was Art Rooney sat down with Mike McCarthy, Izzy Yinzer. I think his dad was a firefighter or police officer in Pittsburgh. Yinzer through and through, and they just started talking about Pittsburgh, and he's like, Man, I love this guy.

Yeah, so I get that. If you look at Mike McCarthy's career, he's coach for the packers, the Cowboys, and now the Steelers. Like three of the crown jewel franchise franchises of the NFL. He appeals to old money. That's what Mike McCarthy does. He's like the Rapscallion, like a little rough around the edges guy, but means business when it comes down to it. I think they like having a guy like that around. I also think that it would be interesting to see if this makes it more or less likely for Aaron Rodgers to come back. I believe he might say. The Seelers. I really want to see that. This feels like that life cycle for Aaron Rodgers, where it's like they butted heads for a while in Green Bay, and then maybe Aaron Rodgers has grown and matured or taken the right combination of horse tranquilizer since then. I was like, It's time for me to... We can move on. We can mend fences. Let's get back together and finish what we started, Mike.

Yeah, we can go off in the sunset together. Now, I don't want to say that... Mike McCarthy is a good coach. He is a good coach. He is. But if you're a Steelers fan, you have every right to be upset, so much so that the Steelers actually hid his replies on the official tweet. You never want to do that. No. The replies were- That's athletics type stuff. Yeah, you can't be doing that. You're the Steelers. You can't be hiding replies or shutting off replies. That's a crazy move. But I get Steelers fans have every right to be upset about this because he's a good coach, but it's the same thing. It's the same. You wanted something new. You wanted something fresh. You wanted a young guy. You wanted a guy who could be there for a really long time. You wanted to maybe get an offensive mind. So there There's two tweets that I thought were perfectly... They talked about this situation better than I could. One was from Brandon Carnie who said, The Stealers firing a head coach named Mike, whose last Super Bowl appearance was in 2011 and has accomplished Nothing of significant since then.

Just to hire a head coach named Mike, whose last Super Bowl appearance was in 2011 and has accomplished nothing of Significance Since Then is very Stealers. It's actually not Stealers. That's the crazy part because it's like the Stealers always were. They've had three coaches in the last 60 years, wherever it is, they hire a young guy, an up and comer, and then he stays there for 20 years. Mike McCarthy's in his 60s. At the best, Mike McCarthy is going to be there for a decade. At the best. He's not going to be there for 20 years. The other one was a little bit more crass.

He gets on that GLP. He might sit around for a little longer. True.

The other one was a little more crass, but I liked it even more. It was from Bartolo's Colonoscopy, Lakeview 487. He said, Going from Tomland to McCarthy is like shitting your pants and changing your shirt.

Yeah, that's a great way to describe it. I don't know if it's right, because again, Mike McCarthy is a good coach. He's a good offensive coach, and he knows how to do this. But I, too, understand how you would look for somebody that's a very clear change of direction with the Steelers, and this is not that type of hire.

Then our very own Jersey Jerry, I asked him for comment, and he said, The Steelers are going to make me smoke crack again, which is not good.

We can't They don't like it. They don't like it at all. But again- He's obviously joking.

I feel bad for Steelers fans. You wanted something fresh and new, and you got another mic.

Speaking of taking off your shirt when you should have taken off your pants, how about Faisoli? Yeah. Patriot Superfan, Fisoli.

Shout out Fisoli. Dick down in the snow.

Patriot's win. Just going straight pecker into 6 inches of white.

Well, if you think this is weird, we just should say that for anyone who's saying this is weird, he did yell Matt Collins before he jumped in. He did. So that's not weird.

Was he trying to say that yelling Matt Collins is like, since Matt Collins grounds himself and goes barefoot everywhere, he's going bear dick?

I don't know. I love Fisoli. I feel like might maybe... No, actually, he's not going to probably wake up and regret it that the whole world saw his grundle.

Not at all.

The entire world, 2. 4 million views on his grundle.

I don't really know if this was- To watch it. Was this planned?

Yeah. All right, wait, go back. Let's put on the sound. Put on the sound so people can hear it.

I want to hear the Matt Collins.

I want to It's always on Netflix.

Yeah. Clara, baby, drink me.

I'm naked.

I think he meant to take his pants off not bosses.

He didn't realize he was naked until he was naked.

Yeah.

He was like, what? It's like he woke up. It's like he was sleepwalking and then woke him up in the middle.

Yeah, he said, If this upsets you, sorry. I screamed Mac Collins before I jumped. Yeah. So that's good to know.

It's Fisoli fans.

We all saw his grundle.

Yeah. Credit to Fisoli. He's a psycho. I'm glad that people are getting to be exposed in more ways than one to Fisoli. I mean, he's the best.

He's just doing his job. He's doing my job.

Doing my job. Doing my job.

Do my job. Okay. Do we have any other national sports podcast?

Lebron knows that guy, actually.

Yeah. Fisoli's famous hole, dinner and invitation. Do we have any other national sports podcast stories or anything before we do Who's Back? Anything? Patty? Patty the body. Patty didn't go well.

Did not go well.

Did not go well.

Patty can take a punch.

That's a fact. He's a warrior. It was a great fight. It was a very entertaining fight to watch. Patty took a lot of punishment. Some would say he got poked in the eye that changed his entire fight. He got poked in the eye twice.

He got poked in the eye twice. The second time, they didn't even do anything about it.

And he got kicked in the dick.

It was bullshit.

Kept fighting. Gece, I question whether or not that kick hit his dick. I think he was faking the dick hit. Patty, when he got hit in the groin, he was just like, Fuck it, let's go. When he got poked in the eye, the doctor came over. They were looking at me. He was like, Fuck it, let's go. I'm not going to complain about this. Gece played it up a little bit just to let people know, Hey, I've got a dick, and I might have gotten kicked in it because it would be maybe people would say, I didn't have a dick if I didn't pretend to feel pain.

Hey, that hit my dick.

Yeah, but it was a great fight. It was a lot of fun to watch. Patty fought hard, didn't get the result.

Hank, how was Derek Rose night? You saw Joe Mizzula?

Saw a coach before the game. It was great to catch up with him. Wants to come back on the show. Celtics lost. Buzzer beater, Kevin Herder. Not Buzzer beater, but hit a three with basically no time left. It was a good game. They were coming off a back-to-back, so they were a little tired.

It was Derrick Roesnight.

Yeah, I left.

I figured you did because they did the whole thing afterwards.

We got there early because I thought it was going to be early. Got to see the players and stuff hanging out beforehand.

It's cool to see Tib's back.

It's cool to see Tib's back. Scalabrini because he does the Celtics TV. I saw him there. I saw him pregame. Then all of a sudden, he was on the court with the team. I forgot he was on that Bulls team. I saw Derek White in the tunnel, flopped hard. We were talking for a second, talking about the game because he grew up in Colorado. Then I was walking away and I was like, D-White night, not D-Rose night. He was just like, What? It was It was so bad. I shouldn't even tell it on the podcast. That's brutal, dude. It was so bad. He literally looked at me like... At first, he was like, D. White. That's me. I was like, D-White, not D-Rose night. Oh, no. Then it was like we'd already dapped up in separating, and then- That was your goodbye to him? We just drifted away. That was your closing line? It was bad. Brutal. Yeah.

It was a cool ceremony. I watched it. It was very cool. My hatred for the Reindsdorffs aside and how they milk this. I'm happy for Derek Rose. He deserved it.

The lady next to me was a season ticket holder. She was like, Michael Jordan is here. And then throughout the game, I was like, No, he's not.

He hasn't been to a Bulls game in 15 years.

I think the Reindsdorffs, they just hire people to sit in the stands and whisper that. There's people over here and they're like, Oh, wow. I heard Michael Jordan was there.

Again, we talked about it on Friday, but the Rinds are milking this because it was different than last year. Last year, I went. This year, all the guys were back, which was cool. And Tibbs was back, and they That was a cool one.

I felt so fucking old because I remember Todd Gibson and the Wall Dang and Goodman. They all looked so old.

Brad Miller?

It looked like a janitor. I don't know. It was tough.

I didn't see Brad Miller was very funny.

It looks like a 50th anniversary team, and it's like, no. I know, dude. This was my favorite team on 2K.

Dude, I had that. It was this, and then on Saturday, the Badgers did the It was their 20th anniversary for their national Championship hockey team, which I was at that game in 2006, and I was like, Fuck, man. Both of them back to back. I was like, Jesus Christ. I'm getting old, and it sucks to see. It was all the boys were there. Where was... Brad's in the back. He looks pretty funny. But yeah, it was cool to see Derek get his night again. But it has nothing to do with Derek. It's the ride source. Okay, who's back in the week? Should we do who's back in the week? Yeah. Okay. Microsoft, before we continue today's chaos, we got to tell you about something that helps people focus on what's most important. Microsoft 365 copilot the world moves fast. Your work day, even faster. Pitching products, drafting reports, analyzing data. Microsoft 365 Copilot is your AI assistant for work built into Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and other Microsoft 365 apps you use, helping you quickly write, analyze, create, and summarize so you can cut through clutter and clear path to your best work. Learn more at microsoft.

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Yeah, you will. Half and a half. Five. Peach, original. We love them all, Twisted tea. He insist. Okay, Hank, your who's back of the week?

My who's back of the week is Alex Honold.

Yeah.

He climbed 101 floors in China.

China.

Sorry.

There goes Communist Hank again, giving up proprietary information. You just gave up the entire nation of Taiwan to the government of China. Congratulations, Hank.

Taipei 101 was the name of the building. I did an hour, 35 minutes, free solo, live on Netflix, which is crazy. I watched a little bit of it. It was very like- Windy. I was uncomfortable watching it because it was so tense and I don't like scary movies. This was one of those things, where even though I will say, the free solo documentary documentary is one of my favorite documentaries of all time. It was like, this seems insane, but if you watch that documentary and seen what he's done before, it isn't that insane. But it is- But seeing it live- Yeah.

And just how windy. That was the thing that shocked me. Whenever they had the camera outside, it was like, How is he not just blowing off this building right now?

My hands are sweating right now. I tuned in for a little bit last night and watched this, and it just made my entire body hurt. Fuck this guy. I'm out on It's crazy.

Out on him.

Why? Because he's- He's one of the greatest athletes of all time. He's a fucking idiot, and I hated every second of it. As a person who's terrified of heights, watching him get up to those, what do they call the ones, the bamboo rings around it or whatever, when he climbed up that and then he put his two hands up and lifted himself around the statue.

What if he just slipped on that big ball at the top?

Yeah, then he stood up at the top in the wind for forever. Fuck this guy. I can't watch any more of it.

You are scared of heights.

I'm terrified I'm sweating right now looking at it. All the credit in the world. All due respect, Alex Honnell, but I'm out.

Yeah, very impressive.

Crazy. Yeah. Crazy.

There was people in the building. His wife was on one of the floors, and he stopped and was interacting with his wife inside the building while he's just climbing it. That's out of a movie. It's like, Hey, honey, I'm climbing this building.

See you later. I can't do this.

It's crazy. He's a nut. This is insane. Absolutely insane. Okay, your who's back, PFT?

My who's back of the week is Robert Salah. He just got hired by the Tennessee Titans to be their head coach. Pretty huge. He's back as a head coach in the NFL. Congratulations to Robert Salah. Big news. Also, Scottie Scheffler is back. Yeah, Scottie Scheffler is back. Scottie Scheffler is back. Golf is officially back, back. So back. And I think we got-Max is back. Max had a great showing. New swing looks awesome, doesn't it? And then We got a new baby goat. We got a baby goat out on the range. Blades Brown. His name is Blades Brown, 18 years old, shot a 60 on Friday. And his mom, her name was, what was it?

Rhonda Blades.

Rhonda Blades. Blades was her maiden name. She is the first player in WNBA history to make a three-point shot. That's her claim to Fame. Then her son, Blades Brown, is just a fucking beast, shooting 60 out there. He fell off a little bit on Sunday, but I'm excited to see what Blades has in store. Yeah.

Okay. My who's back in the week is Philip Rivers because he interviewed for the head coaching job for the Buffalo Bills, and that was awesome. So I saw this tweet. This is from Jason Fitts. He said, Instead of the Rooney Rule, we need a Looney Rule, where every single team has to do one crazy out-of-the-box interview. I love I love this because we still have... Browns have to interview Condoleezza Rice. Have to. Who else is up? The Bills should interview Pin O'Reilly. Just have Pin O'Rean come in with his ketchup and his mustard and just Hand it to Paquula and be like, All right, you ready for my offensive plan? Spray this on.

Hose me down, Daddy.

Hose me down. Who else is still available? Because the Ravens did hire Jesse Minter. Would have been awesome to have Stabi be the Looney Rule interview.

Jesse Minter It looks exactly like Nate Bargazzi. He does.

It's crazy. He does. Who else is still available?

The Cardinals.

Cardinals.

Like McDaniel. Dude.

Cortez. Cortez. Yeah.

Cortez getting the interview for the Cardinals. Have the Looney Rule just be I'd watch that. I'd watch Cortés get interviewed for the head coaching job. Here's the thing.

Chris and cinema.

Yeah. As crazy as the idea sounds, I guarantee you if you brought in one Looney Rule guy for every single job, you would at least glean something. If you sit down and talk to Pinto Ron and what he thinks the vision for the Buffalo Bill should be, you will get something out of that conversation that will help you going forward. Same with Cortez, same with Stop.

Who should the Dolphins have interviewed?

A dolphin? Yeah, a lot of Dolphins. They should have gone and swam with a Dolphin. Frank Fleming would have been an incredible interview. Tell me that Steven Ross interviewing Frank Fleming wouldn't be must-see TV. You just be like, One day is all the... You put it on ESPN 2, and they're like, We're going wall to wall, looney rule interviews.

I guarantee you, if they interviewed Frank, they'd have the boys out there doing walks in the summertime. Oh, yeah. They'd be trimmed down, slim, ready to roll. They'd also go back to the old Dolphins logo, the one with the dolphin that was wearing a helmet.

I need the looney rule.

Here's what Dolphins should do. Bring back the old logo with the dolphin that's wearing the helmet, except have the dolphin also be wearing a Guardian Cap. I think that would be an excellent logo.

Cleveland Brown should interview the guy who ate the dog shit at the Cavs parade.

Yeah, or Connie.

Yeah, or Connie.

She was at the game. She was there in Denver. She was.

She was a part of a personal owner for the Denver Broncos. Imagine Max being the Looney Rule for the offensive coordinator job?

I'd have nothing. I'd have egg your house. See how you take it.

Yeah, you just show up with eggs. You're like, Go ahead, throw these in my face. I'll be fine. Yeah.

Who are you guys getting? I don't fucking know. We don't know. No movement on that.

Speaking of which, Shane, are you getting cucked? I hope not, man. Mike McDaniel has been said to be the new offensive coordinator for the Chargers if he doesn't get the job in Buffalo. The Raiders. And the Raiders. He pulled out of the Buffalo. Oh, dude, Chris Angel for the Raiders' head coaching job, Looney Rule? Dude, Chris Angel doing mind-free shit in front of Mark Davis. Mark He would hire him. He would hire him. He would 100% hire him.

John Tapper.

Yeah, John Tapper.

Get him in there.

Holy shit. I need this. I need NFL. Have some fun. Ball rescue. Let's get the Looney Rule going. Just one crazy fucking interview for each head coaching job. All you got to do is you got to just give him a real shot. You're never going to hire someone from it, but we're going to get some entertainment out of it, and we can watch, and we'll be like a PowerPoint from Chris. Well, Criss Angel wouldn't need a PowerPoint.

He is a PowerPoint. Yeah.

He would just have a football appear. Float levitating footballs?

If you get a witch in front of Mark Davis, he's like, I want the witch's powers.

Would that be illegal?

You can't let a witch walk out the door.

Would that be illegal if Criss Angel was like, Hey, I'll be your quarterback. I can levitate the football to the end zone?

No, I think Tom braided would be in favor of that. Yeah.

That'd be so fucking sick. Zack, wait, Shane, so you're getting cocked? I don't think so. I think we're going to be okay, hopefully. But you have to admit it's a little weird.

Oh, it's definitely weird.

But he's a top candidate.

You want to check out all your best prospects? I don't know.

I'm trying to be confident with it. Okay. You sound really confident.

Isn't it a good thing that the guy that might be your OC, he's getting looks to be a head coach? Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

I mean, as long as he signs, it'll be okay.

But I always expected Arthur Smith before everything.

So just the possibility of Mike McDaniel is better than that.

Arthur Smith, who is- Ohio State. Hired at The Ohio State.

The Ohio State. Yeah. Zack, who's your who's back? My who's back this week is going to be a 10 big Bucaneers legend Tom braided. He took to our Instagram today. Earlier today, he reminded us that he's all class before hopping into the booth. He posted the Instagram, Big Game, Big Watch. He hit us with the Protect Philippe aquanaut. Is that a good one?

What is that?

It's a timepiece. It was an all-class move. I just wanted to...

What's the value on that? If we are a professional pocketwatching podcast, it's at 563,000.

Holy shit. And this is just a casual before game.

Like, Hey, guys, stepping into the booth. What's the most expensive watch that you can buy? Is it Richard Milly?

Audemars Pouget.

Because I've got a business idea.

Brig.

You just make a really expensive watch.

Sell one?

Yeah, that's part of it. But you make a $10 million watch, you would definitely sell probably a dozen of those, right? Yeah. Because I feel like... Oh, the most expensive, 55. But I bet that's just all diamonds. That one sucks. I'm saying the one that's most widely available. You make a $10 million watch, keep it in a safe in all the top-of-the-line watch stores. Because I feel like most of the ones that I see, they top out at... A $2 million watch is the nicest one that you can possibly get, right? This Patek is 31 mil. Yeah, it's a pretty good one. Maybe somebody thought of my business idea before.

There's a guy, Jacob & Co, who does that. Now that he's back from prison, he went to prison because he got caught up with some stuff, He, pertaining the jewelry. Back in the day, went to prison, came back out.

But now he just makes them all one of one and sets the price.

So he just puts a roulette wheel on your watch and then be like, All right, this will be four million. Oh, that's sick.

It was a guy who does something similar.

Zack, by the way, congratulations Congratulations. You finished second in our DraftKings live betting competition today. You were so nervous. That was an awesome day. Matthew Stafford, feeling young today, using the legs, boys. Yeah, you were all over it.

Who finished second place in the part of my take betting contest?

Oh, good point. That would be Max.

Also finished first place.

So Max has to do the- Congratulations to Zack for finishing in second. Max has to do the challenge. Max has to do the challenge for finishing in first.

Thanks, Hank. That's my guy.

Shout out, Bobo. Bobo, yeah. I went 2-0. Max went 1-1. It was decided because I had the Broncos plus 4. 5. Max had the Patriots minus 4. 5.

For the record, we've been doing... I'm excited. It'll be fun. It's going to be a good stream with me and Zack. We're going to do some fun things.

I'm going to do a few hours with you two.

For the record, for the people counting at home.

It's a lot for the record.

We've done this for four years now. The first year, we did it second place and last place. Do the punishment. I came in second.

The next year, we... Davis Mills.

Well, no, Billy and Zack, too. Billy and PFT.

Droved to the Super Bowl.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, and also you didn't finish the stand-up- That was before me. The stand-up comedy year, you didn't finish.

Continue That's the point. Keep going.

Yeah, so you actually- Last year, we only had five people, so we just did last. Well, whatever. That was Hank, right?

Last year, we decided that we weren't doing second place anymore, and I came in last.

You were about to say that you've had to be punished every single year, and you've only been punished once.

Who came in second last year? Three times.

What are you talking about?

Three times. What are the three punishments? Me and Max are the 24. No, that was for Rushmore. Bowling Hot Dogs. Classic. Bowling Hot Dogs, Bachelor Party stream.

I forgot about the Bachelor Party.

For some reason, we just decided last year that was the only one that was- But wait, Max.

It's only five of us. Max, so your punishments have been going on a sick ass bachelor party and then having to eat 10 hot dogs while you bowl, which is got to be fun for you.

Didn't Jake have a body in those.

Huh?

Didn't Jake have eight hot dogs? He had to eat more hot dogs. Yeah. Because I came in second.

Yeah, that's right. And Max had a very good year. You finished some final records. You could have just come in first. Max, you We were 25 and 18.

It seems like someone that should be punished for their picks.

Well, I mean, I went 27 and 16.

It's pretty impressive. Yeah, it's impressive. As a pod, we did overall really good.

Yeah-ish. Yeah, I mean, we're over 500 total. That's good. That's really good. That's very good. Yeah. But it was Max and I doing the heavy lifting. We were awesome. Everyone else was either 500 or below, except for Max and I, which It was crazy. Shout out to the two of us.

Was I exactly 500?

You were 20, 20, and one.

Okay, sick. I only got that one as a draw because you guys bullied me into taking a bad line.

That was great.

A line that wasn't even on the books at the time. Even though every other bet, it's what you say when that line is on the book.

So, Max- All right, here.

There you go, PFT.

You got that win. You're a fair man, Max. There we go.

Max and Zack are going to stream.

Yeah. I'm doing 18 hours. He's doing 36. 36 hours.

Zack, it'll be a team effort. We'll hop in.

Yeah, I got to get the tattoo. I'll do that on the live stream.

I'm going to get a new tattoo. We can maybe play some Dugs. That'd be fun. We can try to win an Addy, finally. I think it'll be a good time. Yeah, be a good time. That's a really good attitude. Yeah, I think it'll be awesome. It's all about attitudes here.

I started that off.

It's going to be a good time.

I know, right? I'm saying having a good attitude about it is- Zack told me he has a whole list of ideas, and Memes told me, I'm going to hate this list. He's got Hall Hall of Fame list. Hall of Fame. No. Give us one. I don't have it on me. Give us one. Memes, give us one that you remember.

I have it in you.

I need it. No, go get your list. There was a couple. Go get the list. I want to hear a couple of lists. Just a couple. Just one. Just give us a tease, and then we'll dive in.

He's got to show me how to play Ark Riders.

It's going to be a lot of Ark Riders. Going to be a lot of Ark Riders. Is Zack going to be allowed to sleep? I don't I think he needs to.

Thirty-six hours. Thirty-six hours is tough. He's got to sleep for a little bit.

He's got to sleep a little bit. I'd eat one of Max's scabs to get a couple hours of sleep in when we streamed. What? Yeah. Or a toenail or something.

Actually, you know what? Maybe the stream is just Zack goes to sleep and we don't set an alarm and just see how long he'll sleep. He could probably cover the whole 36 hours. Give us one idea.

You guys are going to muck bang so hard.

Yeah, you're going to muck bang the shit out of this. What's muck bang?

It's eating. You just eat.

I knew that. It's a dug-dug challenge.

One of them was just part of my 10K.

Me and Max run a 10K in the booth. We run back and forth in the booth? No. Yes.

Green light. Now that you said it, you have to do it.

What is that booth? Why did you pick that one? Is that 12?

Why did you pick that one? That's a good idea. None of these matter, It's an early list. That's such a good idea.

It's like eight feet long.

I think it's like a twelve-foot booth. You should have him read the whole list.

This is an early list.

Max hasn't even seen this list. You know what? Wednesday show, I want to hear the whole list. No, he's going to edit it. No, you cannot edit. He won't. Zack's the man. I won't edit if you tell me not to edit. I want you to add, but do not edit. Yeah, I won't take anything. All right, so Wednesday will reveal the whole list. That's a perfect Wednesday activity. I was going to run this list by max before the list came out. No. Actually, you know what? Send me the list right now. Email me the list. I will not look at it, but I want to make sure that it stays unedited. I'll pull it up on Wednesday when you send me what you have. Do you have it on an email? I can put it on an email. Put it on an email, send it to me. I will not look. I will not open the email, but I want to have it preserved.

I think if you wanted to run a 10K in that booth, you'd have to run back and forth 2,640 times.

That's doable. There's some bad ideas on this list. That's why it's an early list.

No, there's so many good ones, though.

Yeah, you got this. All right, Wednesday, we're going to do the whole list. Love it. Okay, boys, we're off and running. Super Bowl 60 is set. Seahawks Patriots. We're going to be in San Francisco in a week.

So happy for Hank.

Congrats, Hank. So happy. You got to get some rest, dude. You got a big two weeks coming up.

Big two weeks.

Big two weeks. And make sure you stay healthy during this three-on-three tournament.

Yeah, I will. It's big three weeks, actually.

Big three week. Oh, yeah.

This week's a big week. Next week's a big week. Orlando's a big week. Orlando's a big week.

Yeah, huge week.

Rest up.

Rest up. Make sure you rest up. I will. No naps, though.

No naps.

I can't wait for your flight.

It's going to be hard for him to not nap. There's going to be eyes on Hank.

He's going to be hard for him to not nap on a plane.

And Big Cat's right. Stay healthy in the basketball thing. Yeah.

Stay healthy. Stay healthy, dude.

I love you guys. Stay healthy. Love you guys.

No hard fouls. Stay healthy.

Love you guys.

Stay healthy.

Okay, numbers. If you went to the Super Bowl when you had a torn-up knee, can you imagine that?

Seven.

It'd be terrible.

Jay and Daniels couldn't have her.

That was mean.

Okay, he had a sprained MCL.

100.

George Kittle has been golfing with his Achilles. Do you see that?

I just love it. Yeah. Bryce Harbor also just rip in the mat.

Yeah.

Numbers? Seven.

Eight.

Eighty. 69. 66.

I'll go- Six. 30. It's birthday week, PFT.

Birthday week. Let's go.

I got a great present for you.

Is it a gnome?

It's a round of golf. It's five glass.

Oh, it's more work? Fuck.

46. 46. Thanks. Anybody? No. Love you guys. Love you guys. Love you guys. Love you guys. Love you guys. Love you guys. Hank, I got to say love you guys.

Let's be in.