Transcript of NFL Week 4 Picks & Preview, Seahawks Beat Cardinals, 1 Question With A QB Featuring Daniel Jones, Shane Bacon Talking Ryder Cup + Fyre Fest Of The Week

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Yeah.

Whose pick was that?

Whose pick was that? Let's throw in another one right now.

That was mine. I can do a. I can do an alternate backup.

Backup.

You should write a name in an envelope every time we do that, that parlay in case somebody gets hurt.

Yeah.

Give us a backup.

Unseal the envelope.

Give us a backup right now.

Right now. Finish. Yeah, I'll find. I'll find a backup.

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Backup is Tucker Kraft.

Okay, let's go.

Hey, football guy. Patino.

Aws.

Martin. Mike. Yeah. Bar and my take. Yeah. Martin Mite. Yeah.

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Yeah.

I mean, great job, great product. Kudos to those of us that stuck around the real ones, real ball watchers that didn't turn this game off at halftime. Because if you watch the Seattle Seahawks and the Arizona Cardinals ever play a game against each other before, you knew that there was gonna be some weird that happened. That's what. Especially in prime time when these two teams play. But yeah, for the first half it was like the only noteworthy thing about this game was the uniforms, or as Kyler would call them, the new skins that they were rocking.

Yep.

And that was like splitting people down the middle half and half. I, I, I didn't really like them, but I kind of grew to enjoy them because I like the cream color that's like in the background.

Yeah.

I didn't like, I didn't like the speckles, I didn't like the, the like gradient numbers that they had on, but I did like the kind of vintage cream tone that it had. So there was that and then there was everybody just being like Marvin Harrison Jr. Sucks at football and Kyler Murray is a bummer.

Yeah, and the helmets, too. I like the helmets. That's what threw me off. Didn't like jerseys. Like the helmets also, we should say. I thought it was going to be an awesome Thursday night football game. The way it started when we had the rare interception into a fumble. And I was like, this game makes no sense already. This is going to be great. Kyler Murray tried to throw an interception.

Didn't.

Wasn't successful. Then did throw an interception, then it got fumbled on the same. On the, on the return. And I was like, let's go. Let's have some weird happen. And then it was basically two and a half hours of boring football until there was five minutes left and the Cardinals were like, hey, maybe we should try some offense here.

Yeah, their office was. It was painful to watch. I mean, they are the all time leaders. This is the worst body language team I've ever seen. Arizona Cardinals. It's, it's, it's like Kyler. I think Kyler is really good at a job that he hates. And I think, I don't think he like has fun playing football. Marvin Harrison, I think he's just, he's got the yips, he's in a weird zone and he's like not having a good time either. And, and he doesn't have a leader on the team that's actually like trying to get him to play better. They go to the sidelines and they both just look sad, sit far away from each other and don't communicate. It's. It's a really strange vibe that they have in Arizona. I don't think that they're going to win many football games, but I didn't, I didn't think that they had a chance in this one. And then they did.

Yeah, the.

Our. Our good friend Trill Withers said he asked a question. Have Marvin Harrison and Kyler Murray ever met each other? And that was a fair question in the first half because it did look like they had never spoken before. The body language, the way they were just like the passes. Marvin Harrison just dropping one, basically handing an interception away. Yeah, it was in. I, I'm so the beginning of this game. I think the Seahawks are good. I think their defense is very good, and I just think they're good. Like, I'm high on the Seahawks and I'm low on the Cardinals. So for the first 50 minutes of this game, I was like, I fucking know ball. Like, I got this. I know ball. I've been saying the Cardinals are not a very good team and a bummer to watch. And then they. And then there's that. You know what I mean? What we watch at the end, that Kyler Murray, that big scramble, the beautiful pass to Marvin Harrison for a touchdown, it's in there somewhere. And it's so. It's such a tease that it's there, and it just doesn't. Consistently is not consistently there.

And if you're a Cardinals fan, you have to be so frustrated because you see the flashes and it just doesn't. You can't do 60 minutes of it.

You know, the thing that. That irritates me the most about Kyler is when he gets out of the pocket and he runs towards the line of scrimmage and he could try to make something happen. He's probably the most athletic dude on the field. He's one of the shiftiest. He's quick, he's electric, he's small, so he's kind of hard to tackle. And then he gets to the line of scrimmage, and instead of trying to make a linebacker miss or, like, make a cut, he just does the really quick slide. Like the fastest slide that you've ever seen, where he just, like, drops down and then pops right back up. Okay, play over. I'm not going to even try to get in yards like I would. You would like to see your quarterback try to win a football game by making somebody miss or by trying to pick up a first down. I don't think he realizes that you're allowed to do that, or he didn't until the fourth quarter today when he's like, okay, I'm running. I might as well try to get a first down, pick up some yards, see if we can get a touchdown, tie the game up.

Yeah, where was that for the first three. Three quarters?

It was crazy. And probably a lot of credit to the Seahawks defense because they did feel like they were all over the place. Even, like, remember that flea flicker where they just timed a perfect blitz off of both edges and it was just like, okay, this was stupid. It was. It was actually the one moment the Cardinals had a little offensive success and removing the. And then they tried a flea flicker and they got sacked. We also had the Cardinals kind of a bummer when they showed the graphic. 2018, first round quarterbacks. Baker Mayfield was there, Sam Darnold, who was beating them in the. In the process of beating them. Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, who was on the Cardinals for a single year, and then Lamar Jackson. That was. That was tough to See, and yeah, I don't know. Like, the Seahawks own the Cardinals. They've won eight straight against them.

The.

Also the favorites are now four. No. Straight up on Thursday Night Football. Something to note, not against the spread because the Bills last week, but I. Yeah, I mean, it was. I got to say, like, in terms of Thursday night football games, we've seen worse. We thought it was going to be the. We thought we were going to be able to start this show. I almost texted you guys when it was 20 to. Or 17 to 3 being like, should we just record? And then there was just a little bit of something from the Cardinals like, oh, shit, we probably gotta stay. Probably gotta watch the end of this. And it was. Ended up being a good game at the end.

It was one of those games where the, the Seahawks had it in hand for so long and I kept relooking at the score and doing, what's 17 minus 3? That is 14 points.

Right?

Like, this is. They're not out of it. It feels like they're out of it, but I know for a fact that that equals 14 and that's two touchdowns. So anything could happen. I got a crazy Marvin Harrison Jr. Stat for you. Okay, how many missed or how many. How many broken tackles do you think Marvin Harrison Jr. Has over the course of his admittedly short NFL career so far?

3.

Nope. Hank, do you want to guess?

1.

No. He has zero. He's never broken a tackle.

But that's also not really what he's supposed to be doing. He's got. He's just got to be catching the ball. He's got to be getting up there and catching the ball and beating guys down the field. But yeah, he should have.

At least you could luck your way into a missed tackle at some point. He's like the biggest guy on the.

Field, but he's not a slot receiver.

But yes, yes, ideally, it'd be nice if he had one.

Yeah, no, I'd agree. I'd agree, but I, I think you gotta, like, if you're a coach for Marvin Harrison, you can't be like, hey, we got to start breaking tackles. We got to just focus on catching the ball first. Then I'm not elevate to breaking tackles.

Yeah, I'm not saying that they should, like, coach him up on. Okay, here's how we're going to be more physical at the point of contact. Marv.

Actually, it's not even catching the ball. It's. The first step is not giving the other team easy interceptions that like, like the first Thing we got to teach him is to bat the ball down, then catch the ball, then make some moves.

Yeah. The first thing is, like, know where you're supposed to be. And then the second thing is, if you are in the place that you're supposed to be, don't let the other guys step in and catch it.

Right.

And third thing is, after you catch it, don't fumble it in the air and bobble it and then let the other guy catch it. Then it's make the catch, and then after that, it's like, try not to get tackled immediately.

Right, Right. Exactly.

But that was a great catch that he had at the end of the game. That was an awesome throw by Kyler. Great catch by Marv. And then credit to Sam Darnold. Threw an absolute seed down the sideline to jsn.

Well, and also shout out to kicker for the Cardinals for fucking that up. How do you not get it to the 20? Like, that's. I know people are going to blame the new rules, but the new rules are, like, we've had two years of it. Just kick it. Kick it to the. You got to get in the landing zone. Like, that cost them. And now then the Seahawks were one play away, and that's all they needed. They need one play and a run, and they got the field goal.

Yeah.

I mean, actually, it was two really nice passes by Sam Darnold in the fourth quarter to jsn.

Yes.

After he went completely MIA in the first, like, two and a half, three quarters. Finally. Finally incorporated him to the downfield passing game a little bit. That was nice to see.

Yeah.

We also had. Last thing about this game, we had the rare shout out the fan. Actually, I'll say it. If we. If someone can find him, we'll have him on the show.

The.

The Cardinals fan with the ponytail that. I don't know if you saw him. Pft. He didn't even need. Like, I sent it to Memes to face Swap Max. But it already was kind of Max.

Yeah, it was.

I mean, put the picture up in the YouTube like, Max. Did you do a double take? You saw mine? My was just taking a picture of my tv. That was not you, but it looked like you.

Yeah, no, I. You said it exactly. I knew that it wasn't me, but I. I didn't know for sure. I was zooming in to make sure. Make sure that that wasn't me. I also was like, memes is gonna make this immediately. And then I didn't even realize as I was typing it, he posted he.

Posted, yeah, we need to get that guy because the ponytail was. I mean that was. He probably gets so many chicks. Like you don't get like a, a rat tail ponytail combo. That doesn't. You don't see that very often in the wild. So when you do, women gotta be going nuts for that.

There's some girls walking around Glendale tonight with a little bit of red paint and yellow paint on the inside of their thighs, if you know what I'm saying.

Yup, yup.

Yeah, the whole full face paint. All right, before we get to weekend preview and our interviews, MLB's been awesome. Cal Raleigh, 60th Home Run Shout out. The dude who handed the ball to a little kid. The Mariners actually found him because I hit up Josh, our booker and I was like, can we find this guy? I want to interview him. The guy's an all time guy because I think they found him and he's like, I don't really want to do media. He's just a great guy. That was awesome. The Guardians and Tiger series has been incredible. The Tigers finally won one, but they've been just basically all time, all time collapse right now. I think it stands. So if the playoffs started today, it would be. What would the seatings be? Oh, it would be Yankees hosting Red Sox, Guardians hosting Tigers in the al.

Oh, I love that. Yeah, Yeah, I love that because the.

Astros are also falling apart. So it's been like everyone's falling apart at the same time.

Yeah, the Tigers are just in the mother of all slumps right now. Guardians are red hot. I put a future on the Guardians to win the World Series just because of like how crazy this last month has been for them. They're the best team in baseball right now. I don't think they're the most talented team, but like in terms of the streak that they're on, it's worth a shot at least. But yeah, Red Sox, Yankees in the opening series. That's going to be awesome.

Yeah.

And then we have in the nl it would be right now, it would be Mets, Dodgers, the Reds are still in this. And then Padres, Cubs, Cubs still need to win. I think their magic numbers now two to get a home playoff series in the wild card. But it's been like, this is. As much as I hate that every sport has just added so many playoff spots. Baseball is the one sport where I'm like, yeah, this is kind of fun because 162 games, a lot of games. And if it was just what it used to be with four or you know, the one game playoff. I kind of like that there's more teams involved in the last week of the season.

Yeah. Yeah.

I don't hate it either. Means what are your thoughts about the Mets.

Right now?

They're good.

I went to the game last night, which was Wednesday, and it was like the worst baseball game I've ever seen in my life. But they did bounce back today. Okay, but like, and they also did get bailed out so hard Wednesday night. The Diamondbacks had bases loaded, one out and didn't score. And then the same thing happened in the Reds game. So they, they are, they are getting bailed out right now. So hopefully they just win two or three at Miami. But mentally, where are you? Are you, are you gun to your head? Are they making the playoffs?

Yes, yes, they, they are definitely set up in a spot that they, they should be feeling okay about themselves.

There's an excellent gun by Zach. Yeah, if you're not watching the YouTube, you should check it out. Great gun, Zach.

By the way, I should mention the Yankees and Blue Jays are actually tied at the for the alias right now. So the, so the Blue Jays have the tiebreaker over the Yankees, but the Blue Jays. The Yankees have caught the Blue Jays. Everyone's catching everyone. And it all comes down to this last weekend. It's going to be awesome.

Oh, and we're getting robot umps next year.

Yes.

Yes.

For balls and strikes. They're going to do the replay and the replay is going to be like it is in the minors, on the pitcher, on the batter or on the catcher. They're not allowed to have any help from the dugout. They have to tap their head to challenge a ball or a strike. So I, I'm, I'm interested to see how that strategy comes into play. Like, if you've got a guy that's not really a team guy necessarily, he's going to be using those reviews on himself, right?

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

End of season games don't matter. Should be burning them on yourself for sure. Have to. Anything else? Baseball. Are you ready, Hank?

Yeah.

I'm excited. Playoff baseball, best time of the year. I'm serious. I listen. Baseball and hockey, I've said it.

It's.

The playoffs are the best regular season, kind of boring. But this last week is a nice, like, playoff appetizer where every pitch matters.

And it's bandwagon and it's.

Yeah.

Hank, you're playing the Tigers, which is kind of interesting because, like, if either team sweeps, the other team could be out of the playoffs. Yeah, it's going to be.

There's a lot going on this weekend.

I know.

Yeah, there's a lot of sports going on this weekend. This is one of the best sports weekends. This is the weekends we got to close our eyes and just, like, soak it all in, because there you go. Zach. Zach's closing his eyes right now. But, like, when it's like, July, and we're like, oh, man, we'd kill for this. This is everything. We got baseball. We got Ryder cup, we got football, college football, NFL. Everything's in front of us this weekend.

I think when you look at sports as a whole, this is the best sports weekend, top to bottom, that I can remember.

Yeah. Hey, guys. None of us. None of us die tomorrow.

Yeah.

Stay home. Wrap yourself.

Oh, you're mad Max. Why?

Well, Hank and I are getting on a flight.

Okay, well, don't die. Don't die on the flight. Okay, that would be a. And I'll say this right now.

I don't like those. Those sarcastic groans over there.

I know. I'm saying it'd be bad.

I hope we do. If you guys such.

Yeah, I don't. I don't want Hank to die. He owes me $8,000.

It's in your will.

The.

It's like if.

7, 500. Now we gotta win some sortlets.

If you guys do die, I just want you to know I will not be mourning you until Monday.

Fair.

That's fair.

That's fair.

Like, I'll just, like, wake up on Monday and be like, I forgot Max and Hank died. God damn it.

That's gonna be fine. You guys are gonna have a great time.

No one die in the next 24 hours.

Deal.

Zach, your. Your camera is way too HD. I. I feel like I'm watching a fucking porn right now, dude.

I can figure out how to dial it back.

We might be too clear right now.

I can dial back. We're good.

I just looked up, and we're. You are crystal clear. How do you have such a better camera than all of us?

Maybe just a good day. Maybe the lighting's just hitting hidden decent this time.

Not sure.

I think you just. I think you had a good camera. I think for comms stream setup.

Stream set.

Yeah, yeah.

Your ring cam, girl.

I don't have a ring cam. I would like ring. Can you do ring apartments?

Are those.

Are those.

No.

What is it?

The. The.

What's the fucking.

Oh, the ring.

Oh, the ring lights.

No, the ring light.

I do.

Yeah, I do have some.

I do have some lights with no Ring light?

No, none.

No circular lights. They're square.

Just chatting with Zach.

Yeah.

Yeah, we gotta get you streaming.

Yes.

We've been telling him to get. Get his. He's been practicing his stream setup at home.

Yeah, we're getting down at the house.

Yeah.

All right. So anything else?

Oh.

Another sixer got injured. Jared McCain.

We're not, we're not. We can't worry about that right now.

I did like Max's tweeze. Like, I have too many sports things going on to even process this. And I completely agree. You can't, like, you can't process a sixth man who's a good player getting injured in. In preseason hoops right before this weekend.

Yeah, yeah, no, it was more.

There's.

There's too many. There's too many things going on. It can't be.

Villain.

Villanova guard also is injured. He's hoping to be back by Biggie's play. That was another thing that happened today. I was like, you know what, let's just, let's focus on football and baseball. That's. Yeah, that's.

That's it.

That's it.

Birds in the fightings this week.

And the nits, bro.

And the nits.

Yep.

All right, let's. Let's kick it to ourselves. Back in studio weekend preview. Daniel Jones, one question with the quarterback Shane Bacon talking Ryder Cup. We will have some baseball guests on in the next couple of weeks. Everyone. Enjoy your weekend and don't die. Okay, before we get to the weekend preview. Game time. The NFL is back. Tailgates pack stands that buzz before kickoff. But getting in nightmare queues, price jumps, getting logged out mid click. All you want is to be there, beer in hand, losing your voice with the crowd. The GameTime app gives the advantage back to fans. It's the hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in a few taps. It's incredibly easy to use. The Game Time guaranteed means you can Trust you'll get 100 authentic tickets on time and at the best price. Plus, fees are always included. So what you see is what you pay. Looking at tickets. Hank, what do we got?

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Oh, oh, it's gonna be a.

What are we thinking?

It's gonna be a fat one.

Yeah, it's gonna eat wings. We're just talking about burgers before we started recording footballs. I could go for a burger.

Burgers.

Yeah.

Burgers is good.

We also just get wings. Just as like a. It's basically the wings are the. The base level.

The wings for us.

The appetizer, they're kind of like. Not for me, but, you know, they're.

Kind of like breath mints. You just grab one after you're done eating.

Yeah.

Wash it down with a wing so.

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I.

We're going to have the guys see.

The news, by the way.

What's the news? Please tell us the news.

The NFL released a statement saying, like, that's not going to happen anytime soon.

Super Bowl.

Yeah. Huh?

Okay. It worked.

We can't believe that.

Right?

They're trying to get us to soften up.

Hank, where'd you see this statement?

Yeah, front office, sports. It was a couple days ago. I'll try.

Pft.

We cannot fall for this.

They're trying to get us to loosen up and be like, oh, we're good.

Torn between. I don't want to take my eye off the ball, but I also want to claim credit for bullying Roger Goodell being a small piece of the pie.

All right, I'll keep my eye on the ball. You take credit.

Okay. We did a great job bullying Roger Goodell. Yeah, that's right, Roger.

Yeah.

I don't believe this. I think they're still going to try it. I'm going to Keep my eye on the ball.

All right. Cool. Yeah. All right.

We got it covered.

Good news break.

Vikings at Steelers. Steelers minus two and a half.

Over.

Under is 40 and a half. This is actually Mike Tomlin's only second game playing international.

Yeah.

Which is kind of weird because it feels like everyone's played these international games also.

Aaron, I think they hooked the Steelers up with that because the Steelers are like, Goodell's favorite franchise.

Yeah. Yeah.

Aaron Rodgers last year played over in England. This is obviously in Ireland. Over in England, though, with the jets against Brian Flores Vikings.

Yep.

That was a three interception, three sack game. I like the Vikings in this game.

Yeah.

And Brian Flores used to be on the Steelers coaching staff on the defensive side of the ball. And then he left because some people say that Tomlin wanted to run his defense, not Brian Flores blitzing all the time.

Yep.

But, yeah, Aaron Rodgers had a tough time with him last year. We got Carson Wentz an honorary ginger. I think he's a ginger. So he'll be accepted in Ireland. Yeah.

Actually, it's Carson Wentz ginger. Also, Kevin O' Connell now is 15 and three in the regular. Actually, I think it's overall 15 and three with a ginger starting quarterback.

That's pretty impressive. He's ginger whisperer.

Yeah.

He's built for Ireland.

Yeah.

We up last week.

Okay.

I'd like to take accountability. Hand up. We up our guy stat Hole Sports, when he was trying to talk me into Carson Wentz as the commander's quarterback, gave us a nugget that we used. And it's a very impressive fact about Carson Wentz that he's the best quarterback of all time in the history of the NFL. And yards per attempt when it's exactly 73 degrees outside.

That's right. What's the weather going to be?

He was at 9.71 before last week. It was exactly 70, 73 degrees last week in Minnesota.

Okay.

At the time of kickoff, he had another strong showing, 8.65 yards per attempt. So now his average is down to 9.29, which is still the record.

Right.

He's still in first place by a considerable margin in Ireland. It will not be 73 degrees, but it's something that we should keep in mind moving forward with Carson Wentz.

Okay.

So, yeah. Aaron Rodgers, by the way, not even in the top 50 all time.

Wow.

I thought that was an interesting stat.

That's a very interesting as well.

Did you hear what Tomlin said about backup quarterbacks?

What do you say?

So he said we were in A similar situation a year ago when we were playing in Indianapolis. I commented to the guys, you know, keep Anthony Richardson upright. Don't put Flacco in the game.

Oh.

So he was telling his guys, whatever you do, do not injure Anthony. We'd much rather play against Anthony Richardson.

This is just the reverse of bounty gate.

It is the reverse bounty gate. Safety gate.

Yeah, yeah.

But make sure he falls very safely.

But what the Vikings did with Wince is actually very mean to Wince. Signing Desmond Ritter.

Yeah, that's right.

So if Mike Tomlin's thinking about that, they might be doing bounty gate.

Yeah, that might be. Then we might get some bounty gate.

Yep.

By the way, I wouldn't be. I. I saw a clip. Sean Payton might still be getting a little bounty gate going on.

Oh, with the Broncos.

I saw a clip last week of one of the Broncos basically twisting and putting Quentin Johnson into, like, a Ken Shamrock. Whatever. What was Ken Shamrock's move? Was. Was the leg lock. What was it?

Was it four leaf clover?

No, I can't remember. Finishing move. Ken Shamrock. This is bad.

The bulldog.

No, it was the ankle lock. He put Quentin Johnson in an ankle lock, and it was a little unnecessary. And Quentin Johnson then limped off. I'm not accusing anyone.

Spin zone.

Just saying, eyes out. Watch this clip. Watch this clip. Oh, wait, it's not that.

That's the Rams.

Yeah.

That was different. Okay.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah.

The spin zone is Quentin Johnson's gotten good enough for other teams to target him.

That's true.

Take him out of the game.

That's true.

And usually when he's targeted, he would have dropped in the past.

Yeah.

This time he got up.

That's a great. All right. I think this is it. Maybe it's not. Nope. Oh, yeah.

It is it.

Ready? Here we go. I'm not saying there's bounty gate going on. I'm just saying that was kind of bullshit.

Followed through on the tack.

He literally turned around. He basically alligator rolled them.

Yeah, he did.

Yeah.

Whatever it's called. And then Quentin Johnson was limping after that. Just something to say. Okay, history lesson. The Vikings literally raided Dublin in 841 AD, took it over, named it Blackpool, which is pretty cool name.

Yeah.

Vikings have really had to come up in terms of, like, distance in time from when the Vikings were around. We treat them like they're cartoon characters.

Yeah, right.

They're awesome.

They're bad dudes.

Cartoon God.

They're bad. Mama jamas.

They were.

They were raping.

Different era.

They were pillaging.

Oh, okay.

For Cancel cultures.

Yeah.

You got to judge them by the era.

Yeah.

They were pillaging.

Yeah.

They were raping.

We didn't know that was bad yet.

Yeah.

But we have to ask, what were the Visigoths wearing?

Yeah.

For it.

The provocation there. Also, just a fun, fun little wrinkle is this is. And I saw this on. On my timeline. The last time the Vikings and Steelers played each other, it was the famous Chase Claypool doing a first down celebration with 30 seconds left in the game while they're trying to score. And then Ryan Po's wide went and traded.

I. I saw that same thing. I forgot how ridiculous that clip was.

Ridiculous.

And Big Ben was just staring. I'm like, come on, dude, I'm dumb. But like, what me? I wouldn't do that.

What are you doing? All right.

You do have Jordan Addison coming back.

Yes.

To the Vikings, which, if you're overseas in Ireland, you are allowed to drive on the wrong side of the road.

Yep. Yep.

Was he. Was he. Was it for driving or Adderall?

It was wet reckless.

Wet reckless.

Remember that.

What?

There's something that you can. That you can plead down to if you maybe had a couple pops, drink and drive just a little damp. You don't want to do a full dui, but you're willing to admit to something. It's called wet reckless, internal possession.

Yeah.

So he is. He's back from suspension this week. All I want out of this guy. I think that the Irish crowd is different from the UK crowd.

Yeah.

I think I like the Ireland crowd a little bit more.

I agree.

If you're. The Steelers, give them what they. What do you think would go harder having the. You know, when the players do. The two guys that stand next to each other and their last names make. Make phrases. Would slay Queen go harder in Ireland or her big cunts because they've got Christian.

Okay. Yeah.

Well, I don't like the queen.

I was thinking that in Ireland, you know, like, if Call somebody a. Yeah. It's like saying, bro.

Yeah, but slay queen. She says they don't like the queen. Like they're. We say slay queen, but they're saying like. No, literally slay the queen.

Yeah, exactly.

Okay.

To back to America where football is supposed to be played. Commanders of Falcons. Falcons plus one and a half over unders 45 and a half. We touched on it on Wednesday. The Falcons are shuffling the decks on the Titanic. Zach Robinson moving down to the sideline. Offensive or. Sorry, wide receivers coach getting fired. Looking for answers everywhere for Michael Penix. Pft. How are you feeling? Is Jaden Daniels playing? How are you feeling?

Well, real quick, you know who they're putting in instead of I kill your that wide receiver coach.

Who?

T.J. yates.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Yates of hell.

Yates Hell is making his. His triumphant return this weekend. I don't know if Jaden's playing or not, which leads me to believe that he might not be playing, but I'm okay with it. I'm not worried about Jaden.

You're not worried, but he's going to miss two weeks in a row.

Not worried about Jaden. If you had to pick two weeks in a row for Mario to start, you could have drawn this up any better because it's Raiders. Raiders revenge game. Falcons revenge game.

That's true.

And Mariota looked really good last week.

I thought.

I thought he looked awesome as a backup.

It's a system.

It's not. Well, it's a great system, but he thinks that it's.

It's good system.

Well, yeah, yeah, we have a system. That's a welcome change for me. It's a good system.

Marcus.

Marcus might be the guy. So Jaden is the guy. Clearly he is hurt. I don't think he's injured. He might sit out this week. I'm actually not worried about Jaden Daniels. I'm not. I think he's going to come back. He'll be fine.

Not at all. Not at all. Not at all.

I. I've become worried about Terry, though.

Yeah, he's injured as well.

Yeah.

So he. He hurt his quad when he was diving into the end zone and then he ran out onto the field, got Luke McCaffrey's first touchdown ball, gave it to him. He looked good when he was running after the injury.

Yeah.

So then I was like, okay, I'm not worried. They said it was a quad injury. Then yesterday comes out, he's getting a second opinion on a quad injury. And I would imagine that if the first opinion was good news, he probably wouldn't be like, hey, let me make sure. I'll go get a second opinion. And then did a little bit of digging on the doctor that he was going to go see. The doctor that he's seeing for the second opinion is a core injury specialist, like sports hernias, things like that. So I'm glad Terry got paid, but I'm. I am worried about Terry.

Yeah, yeah, that one.

That one. Cause you and Noah Brown's out as well.

Yep.

Debo Deebo is awesome. But yeah, I went back and I watched more Debo clips. Debo is legit.

He's.

He's back to old Debo right now.

So Raheem Morris said on Michael Penix remaining the starting qb. Kirk lost his job last year. We're not even close to that with Mike. He had a bad game. They just hate Kirk Cousins. Yeah, that's such a mean thing to say. Like, hey, just so we're clear, he. He stunk and we get. We. He lost his job.

Yeah, there might have been. There was some weird stuff going on with Kirk's alleged injuries and the Falcons not knowing or covering up the. I don't know what happened, but it didn't end well last season with them.

The, the other thing I'll say for Michael Penix, maybe he's starting to figure it out because he said this week I got to throw the ball to the wide open receivers when they're open. You got to be worried about that.

That's a fact.

If he, if he figures out that you got to throw to the guys that are open when they're open, you could be in trouble.

Because if you're throwing to the guys that are open when they're not open, that's when you run into a pick six on the first series.

Or not throwing to the guys who are wide open when they're wide open, that's also bad.

Then you get into the screenshots.

So bad.

And yeah, when you're lefty quarterback, it looks way worse when you're bad than if you're ready quarterback. And it looks bad.

Pft.

I got bad news for you as well. After this week, you won't have another Noon Central kickoff till week 13.

Oh, I hate that.

That sucks.

Yeah, that's. That's not good. I, I like being kind of lost in the shuffle sometimes.

Yeah.

And also just getting it like the afternoon slate is so nice to be like, all right, game happens now can just watch afternoon free roll.

Yeah. So I, I am feeling worried about Terry. I'm feeling a little bit worried about our first overall pick or first round pick last year, too. Connerly hasn't played that well said.

Best. Best tackle or. You said best offensive lineman in the draft, right?

Well, yeah.

You say that.

Yeah. Yeah.

No, no, wait, who said no? Mike Tice said it.

Yeah.

And you. That's right. And if I find one person that.

Yeah.

Then that's my expert.

Oh, absolutely.

Go to. So, yeah, I was, I was pumped about him. He has not played very well. We are getting Sam Cosby back maybe in the next Two weeks, which is going to be awesome.

Okay.

He's maybe our best offensive lineman. And our rookie cornerback, Trey Amos has been legit, like a lockdown guy. So there are some good signs in Washington, even though Jaden's out. Lane, is Bill hurt? No, Bill's back. Bill's good. All good at Bill.

Yesterday, you're like, oh, Bill might be hurt too. Did I make that up or.

You said that he was nicked. He was nicked.

Okay.

Yeah.

Everyone.

Yeah.

You get nicked and then you move on.

He's fine.

He's fine.

Yeah, no, Bill's good. Bill's gonna. He's ready to roll. And Jalen Lane got rookie of the week last week. And then I think Trey Amos might have gotten it the week before that. We're continuing the trend of Pepsi, zero sugar rookies of the week.

I have one staff for you. Are you gonna. What's. What's your hungry dog this week?

I like the Jets. I don't know. I haven't figured out the other two.

The Falcons, Bengals and Saints. If they close as Dogs of 1 1/2 or higher after losing by 30 plus points, those teams are 61% against the spread since 2003. 3. Basically just a stat of when you get smoked, everyone assumes you're just terrible forever.

Yeah.

You have a bounce back.

I. I would have much rather the Falcons won last week.

Yeah.

Than to get their ass kicked and get embarrassed like that. So, yeah, it's going to be. I think it's going to be a competitive game. The key is though, to beat Michael Pinnock, you got to score more than seven points.

Yes.

If you do that, then those teams are undefeated.

Yeah.

Less you're going to lose.

What about pmt? Hungry dog?

Oh, Bears. Well, the Commanders are favorites.

Yeah.

Not them.

Okay.

Bears, Bucks, Jets.

Oh, okay.

I don't hate it.

Okay.

Hank just loves taking. Going against the Eagles.

He loves going against any.

All of us.

The Bucks own the Eagles.

All right, next game, Saints at bills. Bills are minus 15 and a half over 47 and a half. I mean, 15 and a half is just a.

This could be one of those ones, though. It could have been a week early. What if we were? Or a week early.

So Spencer Rat is 0 and 9 in his first nine starts in the NFL. The other five. So if he loses this game, which I think he probably will, he will join the illustrious oh and ten or worse crew quarterbacks in that crew. Deshaun Kaiser lost 15. Never want to start Stan Gelbaugh. I'm going to come back to him. He won. He lost 11 in a row. Derek Carr, 10 in a row. Zach Mettenberger, 10 in a row. Brody Croyle, 10 in a row. So I was looking at this because I was just like, you know what? I'm just going to look into who the fuck Stan Gelbaugh is. So. Sean Kaiser, never want to start. Zach Mettenberger, never want to start. Brody Croyle, never want to start. Derek Carr. Carr obviously went on to have a good career. Stan gelbaugh, he lost 11 the first 11 starts he made. He, I think, retired and then came back in 1996, week 17. He started his last final game and he was over two passing. Tore his groin on the second series, but the Seahawks won the game. So he technically won his last start ever in the NFL, then retired.

That's Mr. 3000, Stan Galba. Yeah, that's great story. That's the plot line of that movie.

He won a start.

Good for Stan.

He was only in for two series, but he won a start. So. Shout out Stan Gelball.

Let's get Kaiser back in, huh? Yeah, maybe in the Germany game, but yeah, the, the. The Saints losing so badly last week. I, I feel like it's better for them that they have to go on the road again.

Yeah.

Than it is to show up because, like, you're already seeing some of the Saints fans with the paper bags.

Yep.

New Orleans is, Is out on the Saints this year. I feel like it's. It's a good opportunity for them to go somewhere away from home and maybe lose by a little bit less this week.

Yes, I would agree with that.

I don't.

By the way, last thing on Stan Gilbaugh, he. I forgot, like, I just kind of forgot that NFL Europe existed. He. That's basically how his career got rejuvenated because he was a backup for the Bills, never made the team or was on the practice squad, and then went to NFL Europe and became good and then came back and started playing for the Phoenix Cardinals.

That's awesome.

Yeah.

Good for Stan.

Yeah, I agree with you. Those Saints, I don't know. You can't take the Bills in this game.

Right.

You could. The Bills are really, really good.

I understand 15 and a half point spread is crazy.

I, I'm going to bet on the Saints. I'm not doing it for, like, normal reasons where I'm like, oh, I think Spencer Rattler is going to be better than you might think, or I think Kamara is going to have a great game. I'm. I'm firmly labeling this as a. Do you have any pride game?

Yeah.

For the Saints. So gut check. I'm betting on like Brandon Cooks. I'm betting on Demario Davis, who's.

Yeah.

Demario Davis. Been in the league for 13 years. Scraping by a gritty dude. There are some people that are very embarrassed about what happened last week. That play on the Saints, I feel like they're going to keep it closer. I. I could be wrong. Maybe they've quit, but this is. This is my last stand for the Saints.

Yeah.

If they, if they don't cover in this one. Done.

That's.

I.

That's a completely fair thing to do.

Yeah.

I just. Fifteen and a half is.

Yeah.

It's so many points, Hank. You think it's going to be. You think they're actually going to do it?

We're getting to that point of the season where we're, you know, one of these games is going to be, you know, the Raiders, Ravens last year.

Was it Browns, packers last week?

Possibly.

Could have been.

Could have been.

But we also were. We were high in the Saints last week. It'd be funny if we were a week early.

Yeah. Okay.

All right, next up we have the Browns and the Lions. Here's another one for you. Browns and Lions. The Lions are 10 point favorites. These guys have a trophy, by the way. They play for it in the preseason. The record, the Edmund Fitzgerald trophy. I don't know if it will be up for grabs in the regular season. I just love that they have a trophy between them.

That's good. It is like Big Ten territory.

Yeah.

So. Yeah, let's. Let's get a. Is it a ship?

It's a ship.

Okay.

Yeah. Yeah.

If you want to pull it up, pull up the Browns Lions preseason trophy. It's pretty cool. It's actually like a. It's a ship with two helmets on it and it looks kind of cool. I wonder where it sits. I. I think they might have.

It's.

It's a Great Lakes Classic trophy. They have to play with it.

Why?

Just. Just use Google.

Oh, yeah.

That's nice.

Oh, there it is. Great Lakes Classic.

Yeah.

So whoever wins, do they get possession of the Edmund Fitzgerald, which is underneath the.

Well, I've heard that it's only been in the preseason, but maybe should.

What?

It should just be a trophy of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

What is.

It's the ship that's not evident.

Shell was bigger than that.

That's a pretty big ship.

No, dude, that.

That's to size.

Emma Fitzgerald was a lot A lot.

A lot wide.

Are you talking.

Are you saying. Are you saying. What is that a ship for ants?

I'm saying that Fitzgerald was, like, a much, much bigger ship.

How do you know how big that ship.

That's a trophy.

Look up.

Look up.

The Edmund Fitzgerald.

Yeah, but are you saying, like, those helmets are bigger than the ship? So.

See.

See how. See how much bigger it is? No, that's exactly the same.

How can you tell?

Look where the beginning and the end of the ship is. There's just, like, a little bit in between.

Longer. You mean it's a longer scale? Yeah, it should be longer. Yes. Okay.

This is an insane hill to die on.

Yeah.

That's just not the Edmund Fitzgerald.

It is, but there's. There's two huge helmets on it, so it's kind of distort.

It should be. My point was.

It should be.

It'd be nice.

Nice touch.

All right.

I'm glad we talked that one through.

Yeah, that was a good talk through. So.

Yeah.

They have a. They have a trophy.

That's pretty cool.

They have a trophy. They usually play every preseason. The Great Lakes classic began in 2002 and was one of the preseason games for both clubs. The winner of the annual contest received a very large trophy.

Whoa.

Very large. Called the Great Lakes Freighter Trophy, this award was nicknamed the Barge by many Pete writers. The Battle of the Barge. That's a cool name. So, yeah, I don't know if they do it for regular season. It would be kind of cool, though.

Are we on flacco watch this week?

Possibly.

I think we might. The offense hasn't been great. They've only had six drives of over 50 yards this season.

Yeah.

The Lions have 15 of those.

Oof. Yeah.

Cleveland's offense sputtering. They might have a running game, though.

Yeah.

Might have found their answer in that.

Maybe. I.

How long do you think that the Browns can go having an elite defense and a bad offense? Until their defense starts to just collapse?

Probably. They got to. It just depends on how far away they become from 500. I think if you're, like, four games away from 500, that's when it starts to collapse.

Yeah.

So if they can stay, like, they lose this week, then they, you know, two and two and four, you know, somewhere around there, as soon as they dip to, like, the 2 and 5, 2 or 1 in 5 range, I think that's when it falls apart.

We should also be talking. We. I know we mentioned Mason Graham last week.

Yeah.

We're talking about the Browns. We should be talking About Carson Swessinger.

Yeah.

Is it Schwessinger?

Yeah.

How do you say that?

Yeah.

The Browns nailed their draft.

Yeah.

On the defensive side, except for what they did with quarterback was weird. But they should get more credit for what they did on in the early part of their draft.

Yeah. The Cleveland Browns have a championship defense right now.

Yeah.

I would agree.

By the way.

I just looked it up.

The.

The last time this. The barge was played for was 2014. Bring it back.

Yeah. So they say.

Both sides say it's dead. I agree, though. The Browns have a championship defense. They just. That's got to be frustrating.

The Browns should do the Harbaugh thing where they show up with the trophy and. But they don't tell the other team that it's a trophy game until they win. And then they're like, we won the trophy.

Yeah.

And if they lose, it was never a trophy game.

Yeah.

I do like the wrinkle this week of also Cleveland and Detroit being in a pennant race.

Yeah.

So you get a little bit of both.

And Ohio State. Michigan.

Yeah.

These two states don't like each other.

They do not like each other. Here's a stat for you. If you're thinking, oh, 10 points is a lot of points, I don't really want to do it under Dan Campbell, Detroit is 22 and 6 against the spread in their next game after a 6 plus point win. And they're 19 and 5 against the spread after a 7 plus point win. So when Detroit starts get rolling, they kind of stay rolling. Not one of those situations. Oh, they just blew out. You know, they beat the Ravens by two touchdowns or I guess it was only eight points. The end. They can. They can stay rolling.

Yep.

I would also trust Dan Campbell to be a guy that doesn't really let short rest affect you. I have no numbers to back that up.

Yeah.

So I don't know what that actual stat is, but he. He strikes me as a guy that's just like, we're going to drink more coffee.

And he said it in. He said it in that press conference. I think it was Tuesday, where he's like, our best players practice the hardest. And that's how you get culture. He's like, our best players are the ones that are working harder than anyone else. And that's how you have a situation where everyone buys in. Okay. Panthers at Patriots.

Hank.

Patriots are minus four and a half over. Under is 42 and a half. Is Tet injured? I believe he is.

I think so.

So he missed practice on Wednesday. I don't know who the Panthers are going to throw it to.

Hunter Renfro, who just had a baby. Just had a baby? Yeah, the Hunter and Fro baby bump. I think he's only three to one or maybe like, plus 265. I bet him. Nonetheless, I feel like that's. That's been a bet that's been profitable for us. Yes.

Hank, what happened?

Nothing.

What happened?

You share with the class Memes.

Live memes. And made no sense.

What was the live meme? Is it just you on the barge? Admin Fitzgerald.

Yeah.

That does make no sense.

Yeah, no, it makes sense. It's Hank as Zoolander.

Yeah.

And he's next to the trophy. Like, he's saying, what is this, a tropical France or a trophy France.

Yeah.

That wasn't the argument, though.

But.

No, that wasn't the argument, but still. Cool meme.

I thought it was a good meme.

Do you ever. Are you ever able to turn it off?

No.

Do you get in fights with, like, you know, a friend or family member or something and then, like, live meme or, like, trying not to laugh because you're, like, thinking in meme.

Not that I can remember, but now.

That you say it, I. I think I do. Yeah.

Sometimes I just scroll part of my takes Twitter on, like, a college football Saturday just to, like, look up a specific play, and I'll just. I just go by four pictures of my. Of my face.

Yeah.

On random fans that I'd never seen before, but I'm looking for something else. It's like, oh, there's another one.

Yeah.

Do. Do mentally put Max's face on people that you meet in real life.

Definitely. Meeting his brothers was so fucked up.

Yeah.

It was just like, it's already a face. Swap your memes. I. I had dinner with my friend last night who was the one who's like, hey, watch out for memes. And he mentioned. He's like, hey, I'm happy you're taking that seriously. He's like, yeah, I'm happy that you took. You're taking it seriously to watch out for memes. I heard you say it on the shows. He's like, thank you for. We want to keep you safe. I was like, yeah, memes is a wild card.

Yeah.

This guy's got to watch out.

I'll give you his. His number and his address. You can go show up at his house. Meme him to face swap him.

Yeah.

Hank, what are you thinking about this game?

Must win. Excited. Should be a. Feels like a get right game. Should be a Get right game.

I'm excited.

Okay. All right. That's good.

I'm excited. You're excited.

Have you heard any news this week? Better player on the Patriots, Stefan Diggs. Stefan Diggs?

Yeah.

What are your thoughts on the Stefan Diggs news?

It's a clip from a podcast. There's really no. It hasn't been verified.

I don't like how you said podcast right there. We're on a podcast.

Yeah, but.

Yeah, you little podcast.

Yeah. Yeah.

Well, yeah, people say dumb on podcasts all the time with no truth to them. So, yeah, I'm not gonna, like, listen to some random podcast or say some and be like, that's a fact.

But couldn't somebody that's listening to you right now say that exact same thing?

They. And they should.

Okay?

We've proven that time and time again.

By the way, Cardi B Have a lot in common. They do. You want something?

Allegedly. Allegedly.

No.

Allegedly.

No.

Allegedly.

They're a happy couple that's about to have a baby. I'm saying, like, they get along really well.

Yeah, they do.

Beautiful couple.

Have a lot in common. You want some of these Skittles?

Pfti.

When we did pick him this week, I. Hank was trying to get me to. He was trying to get me with the word weird.

Okay.

Because he refuses to say the Tom Brady thing is weird. So I was just like, oh, that's weird. That's weird.

No, no, no, no. What was the.

And then I. I just said. I said to Dave, I said, would you.

Oh, it's about Lane Kiffin. You're like, well, Lane Kiffin's probably getting all the plays from lsu. And I was like, that's weird. Kind of weird.

No, that doesn't work. But okay. By the way, I was right. That Lane Kiffin, that was all publicity, son. And it's not a big deal, but.

It'S kind of weird that he is talking to another player about their plays and stuff.

Oh, no, I don't think that's weird because it's his daughter's boyfriend.

Conflict of interest.

Okay. Either way, I. I do.

I do think it's weird that he tweeted multiple times. Take the over. That's still weird to me.

I'm gonna take a football coach. I think he's trying to get everyone to. To go. The misdirection. I just simply asked Dave, do you think the Tom Brady thing, being in the booth and then calling games weird?

You said, yes, absolutely.

Yeah, it's weird.

It's very easy for him. So easy.

We can all admit it. Although Brady did say that the people who are saying that it's a problem, they're being paranoid.

We didn't say it was a problem. Yeah, Said it was weird. That's totally different.

Confirmed weird.

Confirmed weird. Sweet. This game, you got to win.

Gotta win.

Are you gonna win?

Definitely.

Christian Gonzalez playing or.

No, probably not, but he's been practicing. I feel like they're not going to rush him back.

Okay.

Maybe play a couple snaps. He's been practicing the last couple weeks, so within the next couple weeks, I expect him to be back. I don't think it'll be this week.

Okay.

We'll see.

He's really good.

He's great.

Are you worried?

Worried about what?

About his injury.

No, he's been practicing.

Okay, cool.

I think.

I think he's going to be, you know, awesome.

I agree. If. If you have a star player who's just a little banged up, they're still practicing, they might. Might not play.

And your team is not having expectations of. Of Soupy and you' off a, you know, a championship run.

You clearly said that the Patriots would be the best team on this podcast.

Fair counterpoint.

Really? Fair count.

But we're not coming off a championship. A conference championship season.

We have just had a documentary called the Dynasty.

What does that have to do with anything? What if the Redskins came out with the documentary?

Yeah, that was worse. That was a worst counterpoint.

I was.

I wanted to say it, too.

Yeah, you were, Adam.

Yeah, I was close.

And then you just lost it there.

If. Yeah, if this was like three years ago, that would have been a really great point.

Any of the players like the player. The only player that's around from then is the coach.

Yeah. Yeah.

It's true.

Yeah.

Okay, next up, Chargers, Giants. What'd you say?

And McDaniels, I guess.

Chargers, giants, giants. Plus six. Jackson Dart time. I think you guys obviously saw the story that Eli Manning told. I think it was on the Manning cast. He didn't tell it to us. That was too unfortunate that he texted Jackson Dart and was like, hey, if you need anything, let me know. And then Jackson Dart, like, a week later was like, hey, I need a reservation at. For Charles.

Yeah. Yeah.

I think there's never been a story that has more pressure on it because it's either like, if Jackson Dart is really good, that would be like, man, he has so much swag. Like, he was so confident. And if he's bad, it's be like, yeah, no, no. Shit. We should have known. Eli Manning said He'd give him help, and all he wanted was a fucking burger reservation.

Yeah.

That story has got some big time weight to it.

It's got some implications.

I think it's a bad look.

No matter what, I think it's a bad look. But you see what I'm saying, like, Jackson Dart goes on to have an incredible career. It's like, dude, he had so much swag. He's like, I got this. All I need is reservation.

I look at that like he's a fucking idiot.

Oh, yeah, definitely. Right now, for sure. And that will be, like, the sign. We should have known.

I don't think anything about that is swag, though.

Oh.

If, like, he's cockiness.

Yeah.

If he's awesome.

But I don't think he did that out of cockiness. I think that there had to be.

Someone else he's run into his life that's like, I can get you a fucking reservation. It's crazy to be like. Like, they're like, in a similar situation. If Dave was like, if you need anything, let me know, I would.

I wouldn't.

And I needed a reservation somewhere. It's like, I know Dave can get me a reservation there, but there's got to be someone else first.

No, that would be if you were first. If you were, like, just hired by.

Dave and he said that. It's kind of like the thing we're talking about with Kyler Murray with the Mike Vick jersey. It's like, it makes me question his decision making.

Yeah.

Because what he should have done.

Right.

If you. Let's say you really wanted this reservation, and for argument's sake, it's not at a burger restaurant. It's at, like a top tier, like, steakhouse or something like that.

Yeah.

When you both.

Okay.

I mean, it's hard. It's like the. One of the hardest reservations.

All right, so. But what he should have done.

I got one from Jersey Jerry, though, by the way.

Yeah.

Something Eli Manning.

Yeah, I know. That's something to put into perspective.

I mean, if you got a Jerry on the team, that's a guy that you would go to. But Jerry's not your boss.

Correct.

Right.

Jersey Jerry's not fucking Eli Manning.

He's not. Breaking news.

Breaking.

Not Eli Manning. Put that on a co card. All right, so what he should have done is he should have asked Eli Manning for one piece of advice right before he asked for the reservation. Like, hey, when you're. When you're calling an audible, which linebacker do you look at first? Something. Something easy, like, that. That he didn't even need help with.

Yeah.

And then you're like, oh, cool. Thanks, man. Hey, by the way, you ever been in this place? I can't get a reservation.

Yeah.

Then he'll. I'd be probably okay.

I'm just saying, like, there's a 95% chance this story looks bad and ready, but if he, like, goes on to have an amazing career, you can spin it.

He.

He knew he was good. Like, the biggest worry he had being in the NFL was, can he get a reservation?

Yeah.

Are you worried?

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

He was like, he didn't need Eli Manning for any type of advice.

Are you worried about the fact that when he was drafted, very first phone call, him and Dable both ended with love use.

This is a little early for love.

It's a little early. He should have asked Dable for the reservation.

Yeah. Yeah.

Way more of a food guy.

Even that would be. Would be off.

Yeah. But media guy. Yes.

There's got to be somebody there. Ask someone on the. On the team.

Or just call and say, hey, I'm Jackson Dart.

Yeah. Yeah.

They probably would just say, okay, hey, I'm Jackson Dart. He's got drafted number one or, you know, in the first round. Can I get a reservation? I do like. I do actually like the Giants in this game because I do think he's going to add a little pop. You can't be worse than. I mean, going from Russell Wilson.

Yeah.

To Jackson Dart. Like, Russell Wilson was hard to watch.

I think at least guys will play a little bit harder.

Yeah. They.

They know that there's more on their plate.

Malik Neighbors. I love this.

This is the.

He is. He's top my list, number one receivers. Because he said Malik neighbors. When asked what he learned from the Giants changing QBs last year. They're going to find a way to get number one the ball.

Yeah. That's it.

So he's going to do that again. Got to find a way to get number one.

The ball and dart look really good in the preseason, too. So they're. They're excited. Give the ball to Scatter. Boo. A lot. America wants that. We want to see that angry dude running people over. And they also very smartly signed Young Waiku.

Yes.

So they've got a backup kicker situation.

Yes.

In New York because Graham Gano, who's Scottish, by the way, and the Giants, they used to have tines. They. They just love having Scottish kickers for some reason. Gano has gotten hurt twice in pregame warmup in the last two years.

Yeah.

And it hasn't worked out well for him either time. So now they have two kickers on the roster in case Graham Gano gets injured again and stop warming up or just maybe it might be time to get a new kicker.

Yeah. The.

So Andrew Thomas being back for a full game. I know he played against the Chiefs, but it feels like this will. He'll be able to play the whole game. Last time the Giants beat the Chargers. Can you guys name the quarterbacks? Both recurring guests.

Draft night. When Eli.

Giants.

Both recurring.

Yes.

What does that mean? Jim Harbaugh.

Last time the Giants beat the charts.

Are you asking for the quarterbacks?

Yeah.

Quarterbacks, recurring guests.

Eli Manning.

Both recurring guests.

No Jim Harbaugh.

No Kurt Warner.

No Chargers. Annie Cannell over Ryan Lee. That's a fun one, right?

That is fun.

You would have kept on going down the list.

Yeah, I don't think we.

I just saw it. I was like, oh, we haven't had.

Many Chargers quarterbacks on, I guess.

Yeah.

It's literally.

Oh, Drew Brees and.

Yeah.

Jim Harbaugh. We need to get Philip Rivers on.

Chase, Daniel. Chase, Daniel.

Call. Yeah.

Herbert.

Yeah, we've got a few.

Also, wasn't Canel a big turtleneck guy?

He might have been.

Yeah.

I feel like he might have been. When you watch, I think he's become a turtleneck guy, but for some reason, I thought I remembered a clip of him playing in a turtleneck maybe.

That's interesting.

Yeah, it might be a. Might be a system guy.

Okay. And that was the last time the Giants beat the Chargers. Maybe the Giants would beat the Chargers again.

Yeah.

Also, this is Brian Dable's seventh starting quarterback. He's throwing out there. Here are the six. The previously none of them are over.500. Tommy DeVito, Torod Taylor, Daniel Jones, Drew Lock, Davis Webb, Russell Wilson.

Yuck.

I forgot about the Davis Web era.

Jackson Dart. You need to save Brian Dable.

Yeah.

Like this.

That is a tough, tough list.

That's why I'm thinking he could ask Dable for a reservation.

Yeah.

Stable doesn't really have a. A reason to say no. He has to say yes to everything that Dart wants.

You should ask Tommy DeVito for reservation.

Oh, yeah, Tommy's. He is the Res guy.

Yeah.

All right, next up, I do kind of like the Giants in this game. I think they're going to get a little pop from Jackson Dart.

I might stay away from it. I might just bet on. On Scatter Boot score. Touchdown.

I like that.

Next up, Booth battle. Eagles at Bucks. Bucks minus three and a half.

Over.

Under is. Was it 43 and a half still? Let's find it. 43 and a half. Are you guys. Zach, you're going to watch in the cave with us.

I can hear it, sir.

You, sir, I would like you to be in the cave. I think maybe, Max, in between you and Stephen Shea, all of my anger.

Will be directed towards Stephen J.

Well, yeah.

This is a big one for you. You hate the Bucks. The Bucks. So the Bucks. I saw this. That Nick Sirianni, I think is one in four against the Bucks. The only interesting part of that, though, is A.J. brown did not play in all four losses and he played in the winter.

Hmm.

So he looked.

Three of the four losses.

He looked pretty good last week.

He did look pretty good. He looked pretty good.

Yeah.

I don't think. What's his name? Desmond Watson. I don't think he's going to play.

Right.

I don't believe so either, but I know he picked him up.

It's going to feel like 103 degrees on the field.

Are you scared of the sun?

Me?

Oh, me personally, for sure, I would be very scared of playing in that sun. But I'm not on the Eagles.

That's true.

Do you think. Do you think they're afraid of the sun?

They could be.

Nah.

Zach, do the Bucks do anything with their sidelines like the Dolphins do, where it's like the visitors that are always in the sun? Home team in the shade at the Bucs Stadium.

No matter where you sit, it feels like you're in the sun. There's not much shade there. And I know scientifically there's probably some shade, but it feels like no shade whatsoever.

Okay.

Gonna be hot.

Very hot.

It's gonna be real hot.

I'm excited to watch this game.

I am, too.

I'm a little bit worried. We have a bicep pop. Baker had a limited practice yesterday with a right on right arm bicep, so hopefully he works that out.

Well, you don't want him to work it out like.

Or.

Yeah, wrong choice of words there. Hopefully he gets better.

Yeah.

You don't want doing curls with the hurt bicep.

I'd be a little concerned for the Bucks and their offensive line.

Tristan Wurfs might be back.

The Eagles defense is also all of a sudden hurt as well.

Yeah. What happened? Did the Eagles just get everyone injured in practice on Wednesday or whatever?

Apparently they just through the injuries last. Like last week, Nolan Smith, I guess, strained his tricep and he's out and out for the next five weeks. Jihad Campbell didn't play, has been practicing, and Zach Bond's been limited.

I have a question for you, because I don't know the answer to this. CD Deuce. CJ Gardner Johnson.

Yeah.

So you guys traded him away.

Correct.

Then you put the guy that you got on practice squad, right?

Yep.

And then the Texans just cut CD Deuce.

Correct.

Do you want him back in Philly? And follow up, Is he allowed to play?

He's not allowed because he hasn't played.

Enough games for another team.

Yeah, he's not allowed. We're not allowed to pick him back up.

Okay.

I would take him, but he also, like Makuba.

He strikes me as a guy that is a great dude to have on your team and not going up against you, but only if your team's winning. Like, if your team's bad and you have CD Deuce, then there's going to be problems. It's almost like you're. You're doing a parlay. You're getting CD Deuce and also betting on us to win. Does that make sense?

That makes a lot of sense.

Yeah.

I don't. I don't hate that logic at all.

The Texans really weren't doing too much of that.

No. No. All right.

You're feeling like a win, Max.

I don't know. The Bucks games are. The Bucs games are always so weird. I think we're the better team. I guess we're both health or we're both not healthy, so it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out.

I don't know. This team.

This team just finds a way to win. I think they're. I think they're the better team.

So Mike Evans is out the hamstring for a couple weeks now.

Yeah. Right.

And then a Buka is also banged up.

But Godwin is back, right?

Godwin's back. Maybe not 100%. So Quinon on Godwin, I guess.

Yeah. Yeah.

Godwin and Wurfs both practiced without any restrictions on Wednesday.

Okay.

So that would be a big boost to the Bucks.

Yeah, maybe.

Playoff preview. Must win.

Every game's must win.

I was reading more about that Todd Bowles nerd. That's a scary thing. The Todd Bowles has a nerd now.

Yeah.

Like, it's. It's totally. He's changed. He has the confidence. Like, I've actually watched a couple of Todd Bowles press conferences. It feels like he's a different guy. It feels like he has confidence that he's never had before.

Yeah, that's what he said after. He was, like, making jokes about making out with his tight end because he's got a guy that is handling all the complicated stuff.

We're gonna say Zach Todd Bullets historically.

Gives us no emotion, no anything on the sidelines or. And very limited in press conferences. He's like. He's like, waking up.

Yeah.

Joking around sidelines, kind of giving us. Giving us. Giving us how he's feeling, wearing emotions. It's great.

I see it.

I think numbers were just weighing him down that much.

He was thinking too hard all the time. And it's the added benefit of sneaking a couple wins here and there.

Right.

In games that they might have lost.

All right, next up, excited for. Excited for.

Did you hear me say three?

What?

You said. You said numbers in that sentence.

So do I get it? Memes.

No, it's.

What do you mean?

Do I get it?

No, you don't get it.

Why. But you said.

No, it's not.

The end of the show.

The end of the show. Memes.

You said it.

It's the first.

I've said numbers before.

It's the first numbers that he says after he introduces the lottery ball.

Yeah.

And I say. All right, guys.

Time for the N word.

Memes thinks about the N word more than anyone in on the show.

Yeah.

That's a fact.

Disgusting.

You are always thinking about the N word.

I am.

And you just said. All right, Titans. The Texans. I'm done with the. The Titans. Done with them. So I'm going to take the Texans. I'm done with the Titans. I don't. This game. This game is not exciting to me whatsoever.

Yeah. So Callahan is no longer calling the plays.

Yeah.

So he gave it to their offensive coordinator.

Yeah.

And that was the guy that was calling Bo Hardigree his name. He was the guy that was calling plays for the Raiders after they fired Antonio Pierce. And he's the guy that essentially embarrassed Brandon Staley so much that he had. He got fired, too.

Yeah.

Through his play calling. So they. I don't know. I don't know what to think. Like, Callahan, he was calling plays, and he's an offensive guy. And then they asked him, do you have any regrets or anything that you did wrong? And he's like, no, that's not why I'm making this choice. And they're like, well, why are you. He's like, well, I'm the head coach, so I gotta start head coaching. So he kind of, like, is taking on the role of a CEO Yeah. In a company that is failing.

Yeah.

Because he was leading the con. I don't really understand what's going on, but it's not good. Not good signs for Cal.

Not good.

And the. I was looking at the numbers, the drill tweet of, like, can someone help me with my budget? You know, $100 on wings, $50 on pizzas. And the Titans are 2 and 14 against the spread in their last 16 games. I just. I have to quit. I have to stop.

You know what it was they. Somebody on the Titans last year said, like, teams don't want to play us.

Yeah.

And then I was like, oh, they're still fighting.

Well, they had like. They had like a. It's. It's partially in my brain. The variable Titans who always would, you know, win games they weren't supposed to win or keep games close. Their defense isn't so. So bad, but, man, they always just find a way to lose games. And I'm so. I'm done with the Titans.

You know what the last team was that started off 03 and made the playoffs?

It was the Texans. Right.

Texans in 2018.

That was my pinky team.

That was a pinky team.

Yeah.

Pinky team that year. So might. They might be able to run it.

Back 11 and 5 at the end of that year.

All right. Afternoon games. Colts at rams. Rams minus three and a half over under 49 and a half. Jerry O' Connell went on Matthew Stafford and Kelly Stafford's podcast. Actually, it's Kelly Stafford's podcast, but Matthew Stafford was also on it. I thought he did it. I skimmed around. I thought he did a good job. He mentioned us a couple of times.

But you can listen to a guy on a podcast and he's probably saying some bullshit.

Yeah, right. Definitely.

I basically just did a little quick peruse to make sure that he at least said our names.

He was thinking about us the whole time.

I hope so.

Yeah.

Which is. That's. That's good to know.

Yeah.

Danny Dimes. Are we going to make, like, the entire narrative out of the Colts and Daniel Jones based on how this game goes? So, like, if they lose, are we going to be like, yeah, they're a good team. Fun story, not elite. And if they beat the Rams, are we going to be like, super Bowl?

Depends. So we have one question of the quarterback coming up with Daniel Jones. I would say depends on what it looks like in terms of give me a score and I'll tell you where I'm going to go with the narrative.

3020 Rams.

Was the score 30:13 before, like, what was the. What was the lead up to? 30, 20.

It was.

It was 27 to 17.

Okay. They traded field goals.

They traded field goals.

Yeah.

But it was in the third quarter and then in the fourth quarter, no touchdowns.

Colts could still be good.

Okay, another one. We should think about that ahead of time.

Okay.

What if it's 17 to 3? Rams.

Colts think.

Okay, done.

Throw them out.

Done. Frauds.

Frauds.

They're fraudulent. Okay, what about 21 to 20? Colts win, but they win in, like, a very weird last second. Like a punt return.

Ride the wave.

Okay.

In team of destiny. Yeah, that might be okay.

Keep rolling with them.

What if it's like Rams?

I like this. This is a fun game.

Just do every possible scores and what.

We'Re going to say on Sunday night. He's doing Sunday's podcast now.

Rams 31, Colts 26. But the Colts were covering the entire game. And the Rams, like, do something.

Kicked a field.

Yeah.

At the. At the end of COVID I. I respect the Colts.

I feel like they're. They're right there.

Yeah. Yeah.

Give me. Give me one more.

Holds 41 14.

Oh, my God.

Fire MC.

Yeah.

Best team ever.

Oh, I think that that would almost switch. Now we're like, what's wrong with the Rams?

Yeah.

It becomes more that.

Did the Eagles break the Rams?

Yep. Yep.

And it will be the conversation.

Get ready for some clock struck midnight takes.

Yeah.

If the Colts lose and they lose by, like, 10 points or more.

Yeah.

Clock struck midnight.

I'd agree.

I don't think.

I think they got some room. He's built. He's given himself.

14 plus is when we're like, oh, this team. Oh, look who they beat.

Yeah.

Did you hear that Daniel Jones is frequently late for dinner?

No.

That's like his thing.

You can literally call him late for dinner.

You can?

Yeah.

In the Athletic, they said he's never on time for dinner. Pittman is used to it. He expects it when the players meet up for the weekly meal on Thursdays. He's always tardy. Every single time. He's like, yeah, I'm on the way. I just had to break down these last couple plays. And I'm like, bro, take a break. But that's just who he is.

Oh, so he's late for dinner. Not as, like, a rude thing. It's more.

He just loves ball because he's grinding film.

He's got to grind film. Okay, that's not that bad.

Like, I've heard all the first one in last One out. I've heard that, but I've never heard, oh, he's the last one in. But it's a good thing he's late for dinner.

Yeah.

Because he was too busy being the last one out to be the first one in for dinner.

Yeah. Yeah.

Also, fun fact. Daniel Jones earns $100,000 for every Colts win this year that he plays 50% of the snaps. That's got to be awesome.

That is cool.

Just like slush fund money.

Yeah.

Oh, that's a win.

Cool.

Just gonna take that 100,000.

Also last week with the Rams losing to the Eagles, they have failed the Bird gauntlet.

Say it again.

They have. They have failed the Bird gauntlet.

Oh, yeah.

There will be no team that defeats all the Bird teams this year.

That is brutal.

Yep.

Fucking block kick.

All right.

Jaguars at 49ers. Jaguars are three and a half point underdogs. I kind of like the Jags. I kind of like the Jags. They got to figure out how to catch the ball. That's a big piece of it. But I kind of like the Jags.

Yeah.

I mean, it sucks for the Niners not having Bosa now and they're all banged up. Outside of Bosa, I feel like they're. Brian Thomas has to come out of the yips. Or maybe. Maybe the answer is just give the ball to Travis Hunter more.

Yeah.

Maybe it is because when they drafted him, they're like, this is a man that. That will change the entire sport of football.

Yeah.

Football looks just about the same.

This is. We talk about this frequently during the season, but this is an all time. Can't remember anything about these teams playing.

Yeah, 49ers.

Jaguars.

It's weird because I do. I do remember Mac Jones playing on the Jaguars. I do remember.

Against the 49ers.

No, no, no. I remember Mac Jones playing for the Jaguars. I remember they had another bag playing Gabbert. Right.

Wasn't he played on the 49ers? And the Jaguars.

And the Jaguars. But yeah, I don't recall them ever playing each other.

They haven't. The Jaguars have not beaten the Niners since 2005. They've played five times since then and they have been outscored 170 to 59. Also weird stat. The 49ers, the only team in the NFL with zero rushing TDs through three weeks.

That's crazy.

Isn't that crazy?

Yeah.

Did not know that.

That's nuts.

Is Mac Jones going to play as Brock Purdy?

I believe it's going to Be.

I don't know.

Let's look it up. Let's look it up.

I think it's Mac Jones.

I think it's Mac Jones because they.

Said that Purdy was going to be out for like four to five weeks.

Also, like, Mac Jones already won two starts. You kind of have a free roll here. Like, you can just go with you can. He can lose one.

If I'm Mac Jones, I fake an injury right now.

Yeah.

Looks to be on a very good return for Sunday. So. Hank, you're wrong. He's Brock Purdy.

Yeah. Yeah.

If I'm Mac Jones, I'm like, I think I got turf toe, too. Please shut me down. I just made myself a lot of money potentially.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Bears at Raiders. Must win for the Bears. Absolutely must win. You win a gateway game to then get the privilege of playing in a must win. And that's what they're playing in this week.

Okay.

It's a must win. Have to win this game.

Are you distrustful and paranoid of Tom Brady?

Not really. It's weird, but not really.

Okay.

Yeah, it is weird.

Yeah. This.

This ticket, by the way, is like, I think there's going to be a lot of Bears fans in the crowd. Our guy Eddie is DJing a strip club.

Yeah.

What a flyer.

I love that.

What a flyer.

Peppermint Hippo, which is rivals to the Spearmint Rhino.

Yeah.

I was going to say, yeah. Spearmint Rhino is a great place.

Yeah.

So, yeah, I don't know. This is going to be interesting game. See if they can stack. I feel like the Raiders are bad, but they're going to break out of it. And they could break out of it against a Bears defense that is not healthy and not good.

Yeah. Did you know that the Bears had the longest touchdown drive in the NFL this year?

Was that.

Did the Lions not beat it?

No. Well, not in terms of. I don't know what. The yardage difference.

Oh, plays. 19.

19 plays.

Yeah.

It was incredible drive. That was. That was the. The man football drive.

Yeah, it was pretty great. I also saw that they had Max Crosby rated as a 0% win rate in pass rush situations on Pro Football Focus from last week.

I don't understand any of those numbers.

I don't understand. All I can tell you is that if that's the metric that you're using to evaluate a player, you need to tweak that metric because Crosby was awesome last week.

Yeah.

We also are. The streak. The streak continues. The offense, the NFC offensive player of the week through three Weeks has been in a Chicago Bears game, so Caleb Williams won it. Week three, Jared Goff, week two, J.J. mcCarthy, week one. Okay, that's kind of cool streak. See if it continues.

I love that. Did you know that the under is 8 and 2 in the Bears last 10 road games?

Yeah, we don't.

I mean.

Good. That's.

It's a new team.

Yes, we got. It's actually under what? Yeah, it's also. Well, he said road games because. Yeah, it's one and oh, true.

Okay, fair. My bad, my bad, my bad. The.

The over is one and oh on the road this year.

Yeah.

I do agree with Hank though. You can't. You can't base this Bears off those Bears.

No, you did.

Yeah, well, no, I didn't. I said.

But he can't.

I didn't. I said the stat.

We all do stuff we can't do.

That did.

Yeah, but you can't.

You can't factor fiction. The number is. It's 8 and 2.

Fact, asterisk.

Yeah, well we just did the asterisks.

Yeah.

Factor risk. Last year they were 8 and 1 to the under on the road. This year they're 1 and oh to the over on the road.

Yep.

Also the Raiders defense, not good outside.

Of Max Crosby, here are my two biggest concerns in this game. One is Max Crosby because our offensive line is not great or it's. It looks okay against the Cowboys, but there has been some question marks. Braxton Jones, Darnold Wright has been banged up a little. Two, I'm a big storyline guy. Remember going in the draft we thought the Bears were going to draft Ash and Genty.

They didn't.

Yeah, Ash Genties look like trash. Bears don't have like a stud running back. DeAndre shift's been okay. Not great.

Ashton.

Jenny has like an all time game.

Against the Bears that would also require their offensive line to be better. But that's what the issue is.

The Cowboys are running for six yards a pop. So those are my two concerns.

So. So last week playing against the Raiders, they didn't really block anybody. If you send one extra guy, they're gonna. They're gonna be like, I've never seen this before.

Good to know.

How am I supposed to stop this extra linebacker? Like Bobby Wagner's two sacks. I don't think anybody touched him.

So Dennis Allen, if you're listening to this, please note that. Mark that down. Also sorry for White Sox Dave saying you got tits on the stream.

Does he have tits?

He's got a little bit of tits.

I think it's the ears that make everything.

Ears are the problem.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right.

So I'm excited for this game. Must win. I must win. All right, game of the week. Ravens, Chiefs. Loser leaves town.

I think loser might get hungrier.

Is loser. Oh. I think we should put a Super bowl future on whoever loses this game.

I think. I think whoever loses this game is going to be a problem.

What are the odds right now for the Ravens and the Chiefs in the DraftKings sportsbook? So right now it's Chiefs plus two and a half, but what are the odds for them to win the Super Bowl? So right now The Ravens are 6 to 1 and the Chiefs are what, 14 to 1.

The Ravens having the second best odds still is crazy.

But if they lose this game, they will go to 10 to 1 or more.

They should dip. Yeah, they should definitely dip. The worst part of the Ravens is clearly their defense and especially the running defense. The Chiefs like Andy Reid, he will have games where he's just like, I don't care much for running the football.

Well, I was saying the worst part of the Chiefs is their offense.

Yeah.

And they're like, the Ravens defense has looked bad because they played the Bills and the Lions. The Chiefs offense is nowhere near the Bills and the Lions.

Xavier worthy, though.

Is he back?

He's back. Okay.

That should change something a little bit.

Yeah.

That is different. I don't know how healthy his shoulder is going to be, if that's something that's going to, like, keep flaring up on them all season.

But yeah, the offense.

When the Chiefs have a really, really fast guy out there, they become a fun offense to watch. When they don't have a guy like that, they become a very boring football team. Yeah, they've been super boring to watch recently. I feel like Mahomes and Pacheco are button heads a little bit. There were a few plays last week where Pacheco was, like, just turning the wrong way in the backfield. Didn't know the ball was coming for him.

Yep.

At least one of those was a fumble that Mahomes then had to recover. So I don't know. I don't know if they have an answer at running back because I feel like Pacheco used to be more than a serviceable running back.

Yeah. Right.

But, yeah, things kind of change.

Yeah. I don't know.

I kind of want to take the Ravens in this game, but the Patrick Holmes, like, at what point do we have to say there's maybe Patrick Holmes isn't what he was.

At what point do we have the conversation?

What do we have? We're not there yet. We got to see some guys get back.

I think the first step is somebody saying, like, you could make the argument that Patrick Mahomes is a pedestrian quarterback. Not. Not necessarily making the argument, but saying.

You could make the argument.

One could make the argument.

I'm not going to make that argument. I'm not ready to have that conversation yet. I'm just asking, is there a point in time that we do have that conversation?

I think mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.

Okay. Okay.

But also, if the Ravens kick the.

Shit out of him. Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Then. Then I'll have that conversation on Sunday.

All right.

Ravens 40. Chiefs 17.

Okay.

How did we have in that conversation?

How many defensive touchdowns did the Ravens. Two picks or fumble request?

Pick six. And then also Patrick Holmes throwing it backwards.

Yeah.

Let's have the conversation.

Okay.

All right.

So there.

There it is.

It's that if that's the score.

Yeah.

Those are the. The things that happen.

Yep.

Conversation will be had on Sunday night.

Well, the thing about the Chiefs is there's other conversations that you would have before you got to the Patrick Mahomes conversation. Like, is it time for Andy Reid to hang it up?

Yeah.

Is it time for Travis Kelsey to retire?

Is.

Is.

Is Taylor Swift pregnant?

I told you guys this story, but it was. Our security guards do a great job here. I walked in on Wednesday morning, security guard, like, kind of pulled me aside and was just like, hey, you hear about Kelse? And I was like, what? Because he was actually pronouncing incorrectly, Kelsey. I was like, what are you talking about? He's like, yeah, Chiefs are going to cut him.

Yeah.

I was like, what? And then I went and looked, and it was just nowhere. But he just. I think he saw him and Andy Reid fighting, and it was like, yeah, he's getting cut.

It was probably from one of the overseas Facebook pages, the click Farm.

It was such a great moment there where he just. He got me for a second.

And another conversation we would have to have is, oh, the Chiefs aren't so tough when the refs aren't giving them everything.

Yeah.

Then you find clips of refs calling penalties against the Chiefs, and then you're like, see, now that they're doing this, they were never a good team.

Point. Pft.

Yeah, Good point.

Okay, last game, Cowboys, Packers, Cowboys plus seven.

Real quick, I got one stat about Mahomes. Give it to me. Actually, it's two stats. He is five and one all time against Lamar.

Okay.

And he is 11 and five straight up as an underdog in his career. And against the spread, that's 12, three and one as an underdog. And of those 12, 11, they won straight up. I had a question for you.

Is that the Mahomes of pass or the Mahomes we're about to maybe have a conversation about?

Well, so this is probably the Mahomes of past, because I don't think that any of those underdogs, underdog teams were looked at as being maybe just not a very good team at all. I think those underdog teams were like, oh, maybe you're traveling to Buffalo. And Buffalo is also a very good team.

I'll say this. If the Chiefs lose this game, I think we have to change all stats for pre and post conversation and we'll make this the conversation.

Okay.

Yeah, this is a conversation game about Mahomes.

Yeah, this is the conversation game. Hank, you got to be loving this.

I've been having this conversation since before the season started. They got smoked in the super bowl and everyone just acted like they're the greatest team of all time.

The way that you just phrase that is a problem because you also admit to them being in the Super Bowl.

Yeah. Yeah.

And a weak afc.

All right, so it's not. We're not having the conversation about Mahomes yet. And the game like, this is the game that will trigger the conversation, like, one way or the other, if they win. We're going to be like, hey, conversation over.

Yep.

We're going to make a decision on the conversation after this game.

Yeah.

I mean, obviously with some of the scenarios, if they lose and it's close, then it's not time for the conversation.

Right.

But we will have a definitive answer after this.

Yeah, we will give you your answer on Sunday night. All right, so packers are cowboys. Cowboys plus seven over under 47 and a half. I saw the only. I think the packers are going to kill the Cowboys. No. CD Lamb, obviously. Did you guys see that? Michael Parsons was like, yeah, my whole family's going to be there. Everyone's going to be there. He already had his suite for the year and he couldn't get a refund. That sucks.

So it's the suite that he was. Oh, he paid for.

He already paid for his suite in Cowboys Stadium for the year and he can't get a refund, so he has a suite. So his whole family's going to be there.

It's actually surprising me that Jerry made him pay for the suite. I know that's probably why things went sour.

Yeah.

So he offered it to Kenny Clark. I don't think Kenny Clark took it. But like. Like for the rest of the season. But how funny is that? Michael Parsons just has a suite.

Yeah.

Stadium.

He's going to be on a mission. There's not going to be a thank you video that goes up for him.

No.

But I feel like every player on the Cowboys is going to be motivated.

Yeah.

But you're going to.

Can you be motivated to. If you suck?

You can.

Can you be motivated to be good if you suck?

Not good.

Okay.

But you can be motivated to suck. But suck harder.

Yeah.

So give more effort while you're sucking.

Can you can. Is Matt Eberfluss gonna find motivation?

I don't think that's a guy that you want to give all the effort that he has.

Yeah.

You don't want a lot of motivation.

I feel like the less that he says and does, probably the better.

Okay. Yeah.

I would agree with you.

But yeah. If you're. If you're the packers, there's one guy that's extremely, extremely motivated. If you're the Cowboys, it's pretty much the whole team that's motivated to beat that guy. But good news for the packers is they lost last week.

Right.

And so.

Right.

Yeah.

They're. I. I think the packers are going to kill him. I do too.

I think it might be a load up game for the boys.

Yeah.

Is that stupid.

Memes And I just hammered the team total over 27 and a half for the Packers.

I like that because this to me feels like it might be the squarest bet that any of us make.

After I just heard. After everything I just heard.

Yeah.

It's.

Especially with it being Sunday night.

Yes.

It's 27 have such a good football number.

It's the square bet that we can make to load up on the packers because yes, Micah Parsons has been wronged by the Cowboys. That narrative is going to be really the story of the game. And the packers also looked at as being really good. Cowboys looked at as being really bad. But I don't give a. It's my square. But I don't give a play.

I like that you can make you feel. You feel better about it. You're like, hey, I know. I'm admitting that I'm a square. I And I'm betting what everyone else is betting. I don't give a fuck.

Yep.

Sometimes squares win.

Yep.

It's facts.

No CD Lamb.

Oh.

But hey, I can already see it. We're Going to be sitting here Sunday night having a conversation about Patrick Mahomes, and Hank's going to be pumping his fist while we just like, oh, I can't believe the Cowboys are going to win outright. You could see it right now. You close your eyes, and then I'm going to be mad at myself because it's like I can't celebrate a Packers win because I loaded up the packers, and Nate's going to be smiling, and we're going to be having conversation about Patrick Mahomes, and the Colts are going to not be for real.

Team total's not bad.

Team total not bad. Team total's not bad.

There's one, though.

Oh, okay.

So I'm a little happier.

Yeah.

What about the commanders?

Oh.

This is like swami's picks.

You going to say, depends if Jaden plays or not?

Okay. He does. He does play.

Then they squeak out of victory.

Or is he healthy?

You had.

You had a really good chance.

I thought you were gonna do the opposite.

Comedic timing was missing there. Bucks. Eagles.

Bucks. Okay, outright.

Oh, okay.

So we're gonna have a spicy show.

And jets and Patriots.

Well, jets are Monday night.

Jets are Monday. Yeah.

Which is good, because I don't really want to talk about that game. All right, we got our fantasy minute. I sent it to you, Max. Jerry's fantasy minute. None of us have watched it. Did a good job last week. He got a full minute. Oh, looks like we got a special guest.

Oh, hey, hey, now.

Oh, what is Jerry doing with his facial hair? I kind of like it.

Is that an. For a new role?

Yeah. All right, here we go.

Jerry's fantasy minute. All right, here we go.

I got to do part of my tape video here.

You ready?

Time me.

Just one minute. I don't have a watch.

Okay, in.

In your head means start the music.

Okay, stop.

Start the music means.

Hey, what's up, fantasy boys?

Going out to lunch with my wife.

Zach, this is what you got to do with your pilates instructor? He's gonna.

A Pilates instructor.

Okay, fantasy minute. We got a Jaden Daniels problem. I'm so sorry. I told everybody to pick up Jaden Daniels. Stream Geno Smith. He's gonna have a good game. Cowboys. I mean, Chicago defense sucks. Pick up Hunter Henry also.

I can't believe I'm saying this. What world we living in?

Pick up Kyle Pitts. Everybody can drop Boswell. Pick up Matt Prater.

Matt Prade is gonna have a good game, good kicker.

Lions defense.

Everybody pick him up.

And everybody can drop Travis Hunter.

That's It.

You do Pilates, right? What's a good Pilates move? Short spine. Short spine. Spine. Do the short spine with the police instructor.

He's gone.

That was great, Jerry.

That was one minute perfect.

Got a lot of information in that, too.

Yeah, we will.

We will bring back fantasy Lad boys when they play in England. Wouldn't feel right to it in Ireland.

No.

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Boys, what do you got?

I love my pick this week.

Okay.

Mark Andrews.

Okay. Hey.

I like mine as well. I'm going to go devonte Adams.

Oh, okay.

Want to do a night one?

Should I save one for night? Because I got a bear. Oh, there's a bear that I like.

Okay.

No, just let it rip.

I thought about a juicy. A juicy bear.

A juicy bear.

It's fat bear week.

I thought, how big is that bear?

I think Luther burton was like, plus 550. I was like, but that's.

It's too.

It's too much.

It's a very juicy bear.

My bear is not quite as juicy.

That's fine.

A Dunes.

A.

Okay, back to the.

Well, yeah, that's What I had last week.

Oh, that's you.

Yeah, Yeah.

I don't. I don't like the. The Raiders defense.

Okay, let me.

Let me.

Let me pull this up quick.

Get us our picks. Get us our picks.

Plus 140. Dunes A is plus 145.

Okay.

Andrews is plus 235.

Wow, we could.

We're juicy again with this one. Adams is plus 130, giving us a 17. Almost an 18 to one parlay, right?

Oh, that's right.

1787.

Hell yes.

All right, boys. I love it.

Okay, let's do our picks.

Pft.

Congratulations. You've won a game.

I did.

So tonight we are doing our pick contest right now. It is me, Memes and Zach in first place with four correct picks. So we're all four and two. Hank and Max both have or. Sorry. Hank has three points, Max has two points. PFT has one point. Who's picking first? I believe it's Zach.

All right.

I would like to take in the Chargers Giants game. The Chargers minus six.

Okay, Chargers minus six. First pick. Go ahead. Pft, you're up.

Okay.

I will go with the Colts and the Rams. I'm going to take under 49 and a half.

Under 49 and a half. Colts, Rams.

Yep. Okay.

I am going to go over in the Bears Raiders game. 47 and a half.

I am going to go over 48 and a half in the Chiefs Ravens game.

Oh, got him. Got him.

Memes.

I'm gonna take the packers minus seven.

Okay.

I'm going to take the Jags plus three and a half against the.

Ah, that was mine.

And then.

You jerk.

Well, he took mine. I am going to take. I had another one. I had another one.

Well, all right.

His pick has passed. Go Memes.

What?

What does that mean?

Taking way too long. That is never ready.

That has never been a thing.

Ever be ready.

That is never. Fuck it. I'll take over. I'm going to take over 49 and a half in cold, cold Rams.

What was your first pick?

Jags plus three and a half.

All right.

Viking. Steelers over 40 and a half.

Okay, I'm taking the Jets.

Jets plus two and a half.

Plus two and a half.

I'm taking the Vikings minus two and a half.

I'm gonna take the Broncos.

That was my next.

That was my other one.

Yeah.

Broncos minus seven and a half over the Bengals.

I would like to take the Titans Texans game over 38 and a half.

Oh, I like it. It's gross. That's so gross, but I like it.

Yeah, it's a good one.

Zach, can you walk me through how they get there?

If you envision it, to envision that, that amount of points hitting, I think we're just, I think we're throwing bombs. I would like to see. It's just, that's fun football. I would like to see high aerial throws to the end zone. Okay, guys, coming down with them. No booth reviews.

Okay.

Nico Collins, like four touchdowns.

Let's spread the ball around a little bit.

Okay? Okay.

All right. Good job, boys. Let's get to our interviews. We're going to do Daniel Jones one question with the quarterback and then we are going to go with with Shane Bacon talking some Ryder cup. Very excited, great weekend coming up. And then we'll finish up with fyre fest.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. For one question with the quarterback, it is Daniel Jones, the best quarterback in Colts history as of right now. That wasn't my question, but if you want to comment on it, you can.

I'm not going to comment on that.

Okay. All right.

Smart.

All right.

But incredible start to the season. 3, 0. I'll start, and then we'll go around the room. One question with the quarterback, Daniel Jones, rank these nicknames and tell us which one you maybe like, the backstory between each of them. So you have Indiana Jones, Danny Dimes, and Vanilla Vic.

Wow.

I mean, I guess the. The Danny Dimes thing, I feel like, started, like, right when I got to New York. I think that was, like, a Giants. Instagram, social media, people started that. Indiana Jones just now. Vanilla Vic. That was. I don't know when that was. When I tripped or when I fell on Monday Night Football, whatever that was.

Yeah.

But I don't know. Probably Indiana Jones, Vanilla. Probably Danny Dimes and then Vanilla Vic.

Okay. Okay.

I don't want to buy on horn. I think think I came up with Indiana Jones. I think it was, like, five minutes after you signed with the Colts. I was like, this. This just makes sense. This is going to be too perfect. And it's. It's a good one. I feel like, obviously, somebody else was going to come up with it, and everybody would have come up with it, but it's a good nickname, and I feel like it fits you well.

Appreciate that. Appreciate that.

So my one question, one time you said, real swag is no swag. Can you define aura?

Aura? Aura? Did I say real swag is no swag? That's a. That's a quote.

I think I'm going to attribute that to you.

Yeah. Okay.

All right, thanks. Yeah, Aura. I guess it's just like a vibe like. Like a sense of. Of confidence, swagger that you give off that people feel. I mean, that's like a new. That's a new. Like, kids, I feel like younger generation term. Right. Like, are y' all using aura? Is that part of the. Part of the.

These days we're not. We're old.

Hank does when he's talking about chasing Tatum.

Okay.

Yeah.

I don't know if you came up with real swag is no swag, but I know that people were talking about it with you.

I think it was your Duke.

Your coach at Duke.

Oh, that makes sense.

Yeah.

Used to say that.

Yeah.

Scotty. Okay.

All right.

Maybe it was in regards to you. I. I think that it. It's 100% a correct quote. I believe in that. 100%.

Yeah.

Real swags, no swag. Hank, you got one.

Yeah, Dan. My. My question is.

Oh, Dan. Huh?

Daniel. Dan, Daniel, Daniel.

Which do you prefer?

I don't care. I mean, whatever. Yeah.

Because I'm a Dan as well, and I. I feel like it's a. It's interesting to be Daniel. I. I don't see. You see a lot of Daniels out there. You see a lot of dance.

Yeah.

How do you feel about Danny? Do you ever get Danny?

I got Danny for, like, a little bit as like, a kid in, like, Little League. And that didn't just. If you become a Danny, you just stay a Danny for the rest of your life kind of thing.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. All right, go ahead.

Oh, yeah. My question is just. This is our Colts. This is our Colts.

We bleed blue.

Yeah, there we go.

Yeah, it's actually. This is our. This is our team.

Oh, wow. My bad.

You screwed it up. Y.

Had him on the show. Did y' all have.

No. We need.

No, we should. He should actually do our theme song.

Yeah.

For part of my take. This is our take.

Have you had. Have you had him in the. In the locker room? Have you. Has he been able to, like. Have you seen him, met him pre game?

I haven't met him. He. I think he performed at one of our preseason games, but I haven't met him yet. I gotta. Gotta meet him.

Yeah.

All right, Zach, don't blow it.

Hello, Dan. Hope you're doing well today, man.

What's up, Zach?

What's going on, man? I got just a quick question. I was curious if the other players on your team were to describe you in three words, what three words do you think would most commonly be used, used, or what you hope to be used to best describe you as a teammate?

Wow.

Good question. Wow.

We're getting. Getting deep. Hopefully. Good camaraderie. I think that's a theme on this team. We got good, good dudes, good camaraderie.

I don't know.

Working hard, ready to go prepared, trying to. Trying to get going. We caught. We shortened camaraderie to Rod these days, you know?

Oh, I like that.

That's Rod.

You know, we're talking about a good camaraderie on the team.

Okay.

That Rod going.

Yeah, we got to get that rod in here.

Yeah.

I would say tough. Tough as well. You're. You're a tough quarterback.

I would say Vanilla Vic.

Yeah. Yeah.

All right, Max.

Hi, Daniel. Max, I know there's one question with the quarterback, but mine's going to be kind of a two part question, but still one question.

Okay.

I'm an Eagles fan. I love Saquon. It seems like you guys have a great friendship. So my first part of my question is, how awesome is Saquon and the second part of my question is, has he texted you and been like, see, this is pretty awesome to leave the Giants?

Yeah, I mean, I guess, you know, Saquon's obviously a huge superstar and, you know, one of the best players in the league, if not the best player, but he's just, like, a very normal dude. I feel like a lot of people don't realize that, expect him to be some, you know, different than that, but he's really, you know, just. Just a normal guy. He's been a. Been a great, great friend and. And, you know, was a really good teammate when we were playing together. So, yeah, he is. He's everything the Eagles fans probably think he is. And we've talked. I don't know if he said that directly, but we've definitely stayed in touch here these first few weeks.

Yeah, that's a good answer.

Great answer.

Yep.

All right, Memes. How you doing, Daniel? I guess that's a question.

I looked.

Up Daniel Jones Fun Facts, and it says you used to be a Hooper. So my question is, can you still dunk?

Can I still dunk? Yeah, I could still dunk. I could still dunk.

Okay, that's a good question.

Good question.

Now, Daniel, you can finish. Do you have a question for us?

Question for y'?

All? Yeah.

I don't know if I have a question for y'.

All.

The question can also be, do you guys have one more question for me?

Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. I actually have a question for. For pft.

All right.

The sun, the sunglasses, is that. Is that an all the time thing? You're always rocking the shades or what's. That's just part of the aura, I guess. Part of the swag.

Part of the swag, yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

You nailed it. Yeah. It's good for the rod here. I've got such beautiful eyes that it would be a distraction if somebody were to look into them. So I don't want to take away the shine for my boys. Build that rod up, you know?

Heck, yeah.

I love it.

Yeah, that's sweet.

I won't ask you this question, but we did have Andrew Luck on the podcast. We had Eli Manning on the podcast. They sat on the couch and they gave us their hard count, and it was awesome to hear. If you wanted to do a hard count, that would be fine for us. Yeah, it's not a question, it's a statement. If you wanted to do a hard count, that'd be awesome.

Okay. I've heard a lot about Andrew Lux Park. I actually saw the clip that Y' all had on there and. Yeah, yeah, Quentin talks about it. It a lot. I think his. His hard count is. Is legendary stuff. I saw. I think I saw Eli.

What did.

Eli went through like a. A dummy cadence in a Daytona or something?

Yeah, he got us to jump.

Yeah. Y' all jumped?

Yeah. Yeah.

What about y'?

All?

What. What about Yalls heart count? Y' all have y' all practice? I mean, Gruden's got to be on there, working on.

Yeah, Good question.

Good question.

Here we go.

Hike.

Is that a hike? You threw a hike?

Yeah, I threw a hike in there. I threw a hike in there.

When do we stop saying hike? Yeah, it's like six. You're like six years old. It would them up all the time.

Because I feel like people that. And maybe the hike is the dummy count.

Yeah, I could throw them off.

Yeah, you like that?

All right.

Will you give us yours?

What would I go like a hard 3k. Like a hard 3. I think Eli did this, but you go like, hot, hot. And the second one's hard, and then the next one's pretty quick. So, like, set.

180.

But I had hot.

But that's good.

It's the last one.

It's subtle.

It's like a ghost note that pops in there. I like that.

You got that. By the way, if you want to take a question with you, here's one that you could maybe throw out there. When you do see Quinn Nelson later today, ask him if Big Cat can chug a beer faster than him.

Him.

Because the answer is yes. And I did that at the beer games. And then I. And then I talked so much to him, and I kept on saying, I'm faster than you, that I was like, eventually, like, I think he might just strangle me. He didn't. He's a cool dude. But I probably pushed it too far, so also maybe throwing an apology for me.

All right, I'll ask him about that. I beat him a few weeks ago, so we might have to match.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah. All right.

Winner's bracket.

Love it.

I like that. That's a good question. Big Cat. It was like. Like, I don't have a question, but if you want to ask Quentin Nelson a question. Yeah, ask him the question, but then apologize to him for asking him that question.

Yeah, right.

Because I.

It's journalism, baby.

Was a moment where I was like, I think he might. I think this might not be funny anymore for him because I walked around literally just walking up to everyone being like, hey, who do you think chugs faster me or Q. And I did that probably about 15 times until the point that he was just like, okay, man, that's probably enough. And it was.

It was. Yeah, yeah.

But he's the man. All right, Daniel, thank you, man. We really appreciate it. Best of luck on Sunday. We're rooting for you. Incredible start to the season. Let's. Let's keep it rolling.

All right.

Appreciate it, guys. Thanks for having me.

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Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. He's our good friend talking golf golf on cbs. Show it is Shane Bacon. We're getting ready for the Ryder Cup. As people are listening to this Friday morning, the Ryder cup has begun. Shane, let's talk big picture first. Are we going to win the Ryder Cup Cup?

We as Americans, I think Europe's going to win, but obviously, historically, I think obviously it's going to lean towards the home team. I was doing a little bit of research for you boys. The last five Rider Cups all won by the home team by an average winning score of six and a half points. Of course, they're only 28 points up for grabs the whole Ryder Cup. So it's been kind of blowouts over recent history with the Ryder cup and in terms of sporting events, I actually think it's kind of important for the Europeans to win this thing. I think putting the, the pressure kind of on the Americans in a couple years that a dare manner. I mean the Americans hadn't won a Ryder cup on European soil since the 90s. I mean you're talking 30 years or so since that happened. So I think actually the, the visiting team winning one of these things that hadn't happened since 2012 would actually be good for Ryder Cups.

Oh, I, I disagree. It would be good for Ryder Cups if we did it. Yeah, it'd be bad if it happened.

That's kind of what I'm setting it up though. Pft. I, I kind of want it to be set up for that to kind of happen after the Euros win this one. Plus the Euros are so stacked, they're bringing back 11 dudes from the the winning team a couple years ago in Rome. And when you kind of look historically over teams that have brought back basically 11 returning players, one rookie on the team, 85 Europe. They won 89 Europe retain the cup. 99 US 12012 Europe 1. So when you bring back this level of players once again in Ryder Cups historically you go on to win the thing.

So, so right off the bat we had a schedule switch up at the last minute. So they' the the opening ceremony on Wednesday. They're doing it instead of Thursday. That got moved up a little bit. Does that affect Anything at all. Does that affect the. When they announced the pairings? Does that affect anything about what's going to happen on Friday? Or is that just strictly like a ceremony, Bring everybody in, say nice things. We're now here to officially kick off the Rider Cup.

Yeah. Just because of weather. Weather expected to be in and around the area on Thursday, so they can't be outside. So they just bumped it up a day, you know, tennis shoes on, suits on, ready to rock on Wednesday. And then obviously kind of flowing. And by the way, hot take with the. The tennis shoes on with the suit.

We need.

We need to discuss Yalls thoughts on that.

I had never really thought about it before, and then I saw it and I was like, yeah, the Europeans look better than us.

Yeah, the no ties and tennis shoes, it doesn't look like we're taking it seriously.

The Europeans take this thing more seriously. I mean, that's basically what the Ryder cup is. I had a discussion on the show the other day with Patrick McDonald, who I do the show with, and we were talking about how American media, people, somebody like myself, maybe even one of you guys. Pft. I know you're rooting for. For Team usa Big cat. I'm assuming you are as well.

Like Hank probably is rooting for Europe.

Hangs reading for the Europeans, obviously for the super bowl and all that stuff. I mean, that's kind of a Hank thing. But when you think about American media members, it almost feels like a lot of rooting for the Europeans. And when you think about the European media at the Ryder cup, like they are die hard, cry when the Europeans win. I mean, it is important to the people in and around these teams as it is the players. So it feels like you. You know, I wrote something about this. You guys had Joe Buck on a couple of weeks ago on the pod. By the way, great interview. Love, Joe.

Thanks.

And he was talking about the production meetings for the Bronco Seahawks super bowl. And remember when he said he met with Peyton in the bus and it was, you know, talking about Broncos football, and then he met with what was the Legion of boom all together, and he knew instantaneously it was going to be a bit of a blowout. That's a little how I feel in terms of this writer.

So we got to check them for Adderall. We got to get Victor Hovland in. Check that piss out. That's what I'm hearing from you.

So. So how do we take it more seriously? Like you. Like, is it a cultural thing? Because I was saying that the chance Are we get bodied in the chance when Europe, when it's played.

USA is a bad chance.

Yeah, but not only just like, like you're. It's the soccer thing. They just know how to do like, you know, they'll pick like some 80s power ballad and change one word and it will sound the coolest, the coolest thing ever. Whereas we don't have anything. We just yell mashed potatoes.

What.

What do we have to fix?

It kind of goes back to the core of these teams. And I mean, when you think about the core of the European teams and it's just continued on. I mean, you know, you go back to. And obviously every golf person is going to bring up Sevy, who is really kind of the face of this, to start. Start back, you know, in the. In the 80s and 90s for the Europeans. But it's just followed suit, like the Colin Montgomery's and the Lee Westwoods and every European kind of buying into the process of this. Even the players that maybe weren't the most clutch individual players. Luke Donald, for instance. Right. The captain this year, Ian Poulter, Justin Rose. All of these players have kind of bought into the idea of team. And it always has felt like the American golfer, whether it be Tiger or Phil or David Duvall, into kind of the. The modern player. It's very individualized. I think there was a time Jordan Spieth was very much into this thing, and I think Justin Thomas is very much into this thing. But you still have kind of the individual markers that kind of float between these events.

I mean, you guys, you know, good buddy Brooks Koepka, who has been probably the best. One or two, best major champion golfer over the last decade or so in terms of golf outside of Rory. He didn't quite buy into what the Ryder cup was all about. He played decent at it.

It.

But it felt like some of the really big superstars on the American side would show up. And it wasn't everything to them. They were playing golf. It was an event that they had to play. And I also think the President's cup probably doesn't help the fact that the Europeans get a year off in terms of teen golf. The Americans have to play in something every single year. And when you do that, I'm assuming it's a bit exhausting at the end of the season to have to have something every year to have to play in and have to obviously show up for and play be decent or else obviously it's embarrassing for, you know, your team and your captain.

Yeah, that's Fair.

That's.

That's a fair way to look at it.

They.

The specialness of playing team golf for your country, it's. It's more important to the Europeans. And I. I do agree with what you're saying about the media, too. I wish our media would get behind Team USA in this, like, we will. If it turns out that when we check in on the Ryder cup on, like, Saturday morning, we're winning, then me and Big Cat will be.

Yeah.

All in on it. The most fascinating thing. Thing to me about the Ryder cup is how the different host countries can kind of put their finger on the scale a little bit with the course, since they're setting the course up. And this is Beth. Beth Page Black. I'm not sure if you know this. It's a very hard course. There's a sign that they put up saying, warning, experienced golfers only. I love that merch, by the way, where it's just like the letters on the visor. It's absurd. It's the most. It's the ugliest hat ever.

Did you see.

Yeah.

Did you see the visor one? It's. That's a look, man.

I. I want to put. I would want to punch myself in the face for wearing it, but I also want to wear it. But it's fascinating to me how you can try to mess with the course a little bit to give an advantage to your team. So what has Team USA done to Beth Page Black to make it easier for them, harder for the Europeans?

So rough is cut down a bit. I don't necessarily know if that actually helps the Americans. I think the Europeans have plenty of long hitters in terms of terms of their golfers. I think, you know, historically Americans have had longer hitters, so they want the rough to be short. I think they've taken a little bit of the bite out of the golf course. I mean, it doesn't. It's not going to play to the level of a best Beth Page Black that you've seen at U S Opens. I mean, it's not going to be this punch you in the nose kind of golf course. I also don't think the Ryder cup wants that. I think you want to see birdies and eagles win holes, and I think pars winning holes isn't the most exciting thing, but I think the rough is going to be very, very manageable and easy to play out of. I think if us three went and played Beth Page Black, like, on a typical year in August, the rough would probably be more thick that time. Than what you're going to see this week at a Ryder cup, you know, for, for these two teams.

And I think the greens are going to be extremely fast. Now, again, I don't know if that necessarily helps the Americans, but I do think when you look at this team, putting is, in theory, going to be something the Americans can lean on in terms of an advantage.

All right, so. So the actual setup of the tournament, we obviously know how it's set up, but for our listeners who aren't big golf fans, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I know, is singles. How does a Friday Saturday format work?

Yeah, so. So Friday's morning foursomes, which is alternate shot, and then afternoon is four ball, which is best ball. So, you know, everybody's hitting their own golf ball mornings. Yeah, no, no, no. Scramble.

So it's like you're two and two, and then whichever member of your twosome scores lowest, you use that score.

That's the score.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, I watched, I watched the Ryder Cup, Big Cat, and I mean, I know you didn't play the level you wanted to play, but you were dialed on the rules. I. You had that pretty locked.

No, no.

I'm surprised you didn't quite understand this, this version of it. And then obviously it rolls into Sunday singles, where everybody plays, so not everybody plays any of those formats. Prior to it, you're going to have dudes sitting out on both sides, both in the foursomes and the four ball.

So one thing that's interesting to me about the, the foursomes, which is alternate shot, I was looking at the stats over the years, and the home team dominates the alternate shot. It's not even close. Like singles. And the, the best ball that's kind of like up for grabs maybe a little bit favors the home team. But yeah, the alternate shot is weighted heavily, like way more than any other event towards the host country. Do you have any idea why that could be?

I, I don't necessarily know why the home country feels more comfortable in that environment, but it does. You're, you're, you're spot on. I mean, if you win foursomes, you win the Ryder cup, basically, is how, how it works these days. If you can dominate alternate shot, you can win it. I mean, when you look at some of these, and I know pairings are going to be out by the time this airs, but when you look at some of the potentials on the American side, I do think there's a slight advantage for them if they lean into it. I mean, they were so good a couple years ago in terms of the format, you know, early on in terms of the home country, and then obviously you can flip it with four ball. But, I mean, I think there are some guys, like, I want Keegan to roll out Justin Thomas and Bryson like to start alternate shot. I think those two guys pair well in terms of their capabilities on the golf course. Bryson obviously can lean on a lot of the big driving holes, and JT can lean on the great iron play. And I also think on the American side, you don't have a lot of personalities.

You don't have a lot of kind of big personalities like you typically have in terms of a Ryder cup team. Those are the two biggest personalities on the American team. And I think Keegan could roll those guys out, put them together, fire up the crowd, and then let some of the more quiet guys kind of play after.

Is there a level that the crowd could get too nasty? I saw a little bit of that where the Europeans. But why we should get as nasty as possible?

I mean, it's golf. I think there's decorum that kind of goes along with golf. I mean, I'm with you. I think, you know, I think getting in people's kitchen makes this event a little bit more special. I mean, I take you guys, for example, Right? You guys are. I think you guys would consider yourselves golf fans at this point. But. But it's going to happen over the weekend with college football on Saturday in the NFL on Sunday. What's going to make Big Cat and PFT tune in? Yeah, it's going to be a close match, and it's going to be a bit of drama like we saw in Rome, with the caddy and La Cava and Rory going at it. Maybe the fans kind of get in people's ears. That's what's going to make this event kind of catch fire outside of your traditional golf fans. And I think about you guys watching on a Sunday. Is a TV going to be on the golf if it's not close, probably not. But if it's. If people are chirping, you might. You guys might throw a TV on. So, I mean, I think they should lean into Hank.

Well, it depends. If tennis is on, Hank will go tennis first, then golf.

And if. If it's close, I would say it will probably be on. If it's not close, I would say probably we're just gonna pretend it didn't happen.

Yeah, we're gonna say it was a.

We're not gonna match. Yeah, we're gonna treat it the same way we did The. The four nations final.

All right, so who. Who in. On the European team is the most likely about the fans, because I want the fans to go extra hard on them.

I mean, I think Tyrell Hatton is probably the easiest answer. I think Shane Lowry's probably answer number two. I would probably throw Rory in there. I mean, I think Rory embraces it more than most guys do in this event. I think Rory, if you pull players, he'd be one that would say, I want more chirping than less. But I could see people kind of leaning maybe on his teammate or something, and the Rory getting a little offended by it. But I'd say Tyrell's the easy one A and Shane Lowry's probably one B.

I would like to send somebody from the Louisville police department up to the parking lot to make sure that just in case Rory speeds off after a round. If he's upset.

Yep.

Pull his ass over.

Yup.

Like, if he doesn't break the law, that's fine. But if there's a taillight out, if he doesn't signal, I want Rory held to account for American laws. Also, I think the U. S. Kind of sent a message to the fans when they showed up wearing the. The tennis shoes. Like, okay, no decorum this weekend. It's off. We're letting it all hang out. So Stu Finer, let him have it.

Just get crazy.

Yeah. Who. Who.

Who on each side is the most important player? Not best, but most important player?

I would say it's easy to say Scotty on the American side. I mean, I think he's probably the most important player in terms of playing five matches. But I think the answer I'd go outside of the best player in the world is Xander. I mean, Xander has had a very off season this year after obviously winning two majors last year. He's been solid in Ryder Cups and presidents cups in his career. We haven't quite seen Xander play great golf this year. And when you're, you know, a top three player in the world in theory, the Americans need you to play well. And they're going to need Xander to kind of pair up with Patrick Cantlay and kind of do what they do in these Ryder Cups. So I'd say Scotty's probably the easy answer on the American side. I'd probably go Xander on that side of things. And an interesting side on the. On the amer, on the European thing is this. Rory's the answer. Right. If Rory plays well, they're going to win the Ryder Cup. I think it's Interesting to lean on what we see from Matt Fitzpatrick this week. Matt. Matt Fitzpatrick is 170 in the history of the Ryder Cup.

Now, I was doing some math today for you boys. I think it's the worst percentage of anybody that's ever played more than one Ryder Cup. 12.5%. The only match he's ever won was a couple years ago alongside Rory. If he has a bad Ryder cup, he's going to go down statistically as the worst Ryder cup player of all time. So I think for Fitzpatrick, who has played better golf over the last two, three months, I think he's got a lot of weight on his back in terms of just showing up and playing solid, or else, again, you're 190 or potentially 119 and 1. I mean, that. That's something you're gonna have to carry with you the rest of your career.

All right, so off that question, why. Why is it ever talked about the Tiger sucked in the Ryder cup, and also, why did he suck in the Ryder Cup?

I. I think the partners got nervous. I think Tiger played with people and they kind of freaked out. You know, he played well in the President's Cup. He got the right pairings there. Obviously, President's cup weighted because America won all the time, but, you know, he'd always play with Steve Stricker, and they would dominate on the President's cup side of things. Never quite found that level of partner in terms of Ryder Cups. You think about early in his career and you kind of roll out Marco Mirror and somebody like that, and then he was always kind of paired with. With just random dudes. He'd play with one guy and then play with somebody else. And I think there was a level of intimidation playing alongside Tiger when you were those guys knowing, man, I got to play so great or else I'm going to be the one people kind of blame. They're never going to blame Tiger for this.

Does that exist at all with Scotty? Because Scotty's obviously playing out of his mind right now and had an incredible season. Is there a little bit of intimidation if you play with Scotty where you put more pressure on yourself?

I think so. I mean, I think we saw a little bit of that in Rome. I think he's got the right guy alongside him. I think he'll play a lot with Ron Russell Henley this week, and I think Russell Henley is kind of the perfect personality in terms of somebody you're going to play. By the way, speaking of personality, Big Cat, you're going to be a Big fan of this. You know how the writer cup rolls out and they always have weird things that the captains do?

Yeah.

Keegan Bradley. I had Harris English on the the Ping podcast. I do. And he said that they used Kirby Smart's Georgia personality chest test for the American Ryder cup team. So I'm sure that's gonna win.

Right? I. I had to take that.

The.

The hype videos were too early in the week. Monday was too early for a hype video. I just wasn't ready for it. I want to get the hype video.

Right before I was just anti golf hype videos in general.

It was actually glued activator who had the tank, but I agreed with him.

Yeah.

Glued activator.

Yeah.

Kirby Smart.

The European picture with the smoke, by the way, was interesting. Do they have a smoke machine behind them? I didn't get that picture at all.

Again, that's going to be Stu Finder's job to just blaze up a spoke out.

Yeah.

And just blow in their ear. Blow it in Rory's ear, Stew.

Yeah.

No, that's fascinating. With the Kirby Smart personality test, I would like to see what goes into that. So if we can get our hands on that. If anyone's at Georgia, let us know. I. I got a dumb question about alternate shot. Whose ball do they use?

Like, if one of dumb questions.

One guy plays like a tailor made. One guy plays a top flight.

Always the approach shot. So if you, if you're. If you're. If you and me Pft. Are playing in and I'm teeing off on the hole, we're using your golf ball because you're hitting the approach in. On a par three, obviously it's the guy that's hitting the golf shot in, because off the tee, it doesn't really matter. But in terms of distance, spin rate, things like that, with your irons, you're going to want to be hitting your golf ball. So it's always kind of the. The approach iron shot into the green.

That's a good question. I would have thought about hitting off the tee.

Yeah.

It's your T, your ball. Go for it. Fascinating. With Patrick Cantlay, we're used to hating Patrick. We're used to being like this slow guy. I can't stand watching him. He makes golf boring. He takes 15 minutes to finish a par three. How can we convince ourselves to root for this guy that we've grown up hating? Do we have. Is there any spin zone that we can give ourselves?

Yeah, I mean, I think. I think Patrick Cantlay is You know, I mean, I think you got to have a heel on your team, right? I mean, I think. I think throughout history, great sports teams typically have the Dennis Rodman, like, character that you don't want to play against, but you want him on your squad. And I think can't Lee is that also. I'll say this. Historically, in the Ryder Cup, Americans have had Patricks that do well, that maybe you don't root for 51 weeks out of the year.

That's true.

So maybe it's a Patrick thing.

That's true. I was also thinking that, like, Europeans, they. If you ever watch a soccer game, you guys waste time all the time. So this is just our verse. Deal with it.

It's a good point.

What does this score have to be on Saturday night for us to have a shot? If we're down, let's say we're down because then obviously it's 12 matches all. Each match has a point on Sunday. So it's like, you can always be alive, so to speak. But what does the score have to be for us to be like, hey, we could still win this thing.

Yeah, can't be down more than three. I think it's probably the way you got to look at it. I think you can be down three and have an opportunity. Historically, Americans have been better in singles, so I think if you're down 3 going into it, there is opportunity. I. I'm really, really fearful of the Americans, if they're down at all. Considering the experience on the European side, I think they got to go into singles with a lead to win this thing. I think the Europeans are going to be scary, scary tough if they're leading going into Sunday, considering basically 1 through 10. Now, if I was going to rank 1 through 24 of the guys on both teams, I think Steph Soraka and Shane Lowry, with the way they're playing right now, would be my bottom two. But you can hide those guys. If you had the lead, you could put them out, you know, 10, 11, or 9 and 10. But I think, you know, basically 1 through 10 on the European side right now is playing excellent, excellent golf. And they would be very, very tough with the. With the lead. I think the Americans have to have it at least tied going into Sunday.

All right, so then flip it.

What.

What is a lead the Americans have that you're like, this is cooked.

We're.

We want this, man.

I'd say four, but that was Medina. I'd say four and a half. I think if they're up four and A half going into Sunday singles. I think it's, it's done dusted, game over. Start the champagne celebration.

Okay, okay, I, I know it's. We don't know what the pairings are going to be. We don't know Keegan Bradley's style. But like, how much of a, an impact can the, the captain have on the final score? Like, what's the swing between a very good captain and a very bad captain?

Captain Point, point and a half. I think it's probably fair to say. I think it's a little bit like Major league baseball where maybe the manager doesn't have a massive impact once the game begins, but I think the impact leading into a game can matter. So I'd say probably a point, point and a half in terms of analytical team, people you have in the background, kind of the work you put in leading into a Ryder Cup.

What about the strategy of conceding putts? I know there's usually some dispute that happens at some point during the weekend. Oh, he didn't give me that putt. I'm mad at him that he made me putt the ball one foot and then, you know, that turns into its whole side storyline. But is there like a strategy that works best in terms of, okay, anything within two and a half feet in. Is that line three feet? Is it the length of the putter? Like, do they think about this going in the matches? Like, we're not conceding anything today, ball and hole.

Yeah. I, a pro golfer once told me about concessions. If I wouldn't want to put it, I'm not giving in it. So maybe it could be two feet but have movement right. It could be a righty having a two foot putt that moves left to right and you have to play just outside the hole. Maybe that's a putt you make them hit. But if it's three feet straight up the hill with no movement, maybe that's a putt you give. So I don't think there's necessarily a foot per se in terms of what you give and what you don't, but maybe the difficulty of what that putt looks like for the player, you know, if it's a lefty with a putt that's moving left to right, you know, it's a little bit of an easier putt. So maybe you give that putt as well.

Is there any strategy, like, if I were playing in the Ryder Cup, I would just give everything early and then, then, and then let them give me back. And then at the end, just Be like, haha, gotcha. Like we were playing nice.

I. I do think there's a little strategy involved in giving putts early and not giving them late or maybe not having a guy hit a putt inside of five feet early. I think that happens probably more in a Ryder cup than anything else. I mean, Big cat, I. I love your strategy of conceding the hole as soon as possible.

Oh, yeah.

I do think that's like a cool way of going about. Like, don't let him get the confidence right. You, I mean, you can see. I think you can see the one at the Ryder cup off the tee, didn't you?

Yeah, you got to. When you know, you just. You're like, I'm fucked. Let's just go to the next hole. Yeah, it's my. I mean, I don't really have anything in my golf game except trying mind tricks, and those don't work either.

I also decided, I think watching Hank play Match Play Golf is Among my top three favorite YouTube Golf.

Love that.

So passionate.

Yeah.

He wants to win so bad. You see the, like the, the, the crash and burn and also, like, you know, the euphoria when it goes well. I just absolutely can't get enough. I wish Hank had his own golf channel and just, I mean, I know four days a week, you know.

Okay, well, you're in luck because there's a new video of Hank and Match Play that's coming out either Thursday or Friday, so I. I would recommend watching that one. It's a good one.

Me and PFT are also playing for five grand in a couple weeks.

Yeah.

Yeah. So speaking of that, that maybe in this video there might be something that you've never seen in Match Play before. I'm curious to know your take on this. We were playing, and it wasn't me, it wasn't Hank. It might have been the people that we were playing with. They both ended up in the shit off the tee, but in opposite directions. Each one of them proceeds to hit their next, like two or three shots either deeper or into the water. They both get frustrated. They both, Both said it. I concede on opposite sides of the hole and then drove to the middle. Each person was going to concede the hole to the other person. They didn't know that they had won the hole. What do you do in the event of a double concede?

Wow. Yeah, I don't, man. I'd have to call the USGA and ask that. I've never heard that before. I do like the idea of maybe it's The. Maybe it's like kind of like when you put your scorecard in, first in, last out, maybe it's the first person that mutters concession than the other person. But I guess if you stayed at the same time, maybe it's flipping a tee or. Or maybe it's just both laws a hole and you move on.

Yeah. Like if you had already conceded and then you're driving to the fairway and the other guy goes, hey, I give up. You're like, oh, okay. I'm just not going to tell him that I already conceded this hole.

Yeah. I mean it. Everybody quits, right? I mean, I feel like that's how I play. Like, my kids in any board game, they just like, who's going to quit first because they're getting frustrated in so much.

Yeah.

Pick it up and move on.

Hank, do you have a question for Shane?

Yeah, I'm interested about the.

The debut talents.

You'Re looking at. Draftkings.

The rookies.

The rookies.

Okay. Yeah.

Obviously that's, you know, we haven't seen them play in these type of tournaments. Is there one of these guys who's maybe better equipped for it or someone that's like, you know, going to be feeling the pressure more?

I really like JJ Spawn this week. I think JJ Spawn is going to have an epic, epic Ryder cup, personality wise, the way he's played this season. And, you know, you think about J.J. spawn. Of course, he won the U.S. open. He could have had a season where he won the US Open, won the players, and won a playoff event. I mean, that's a pretty polished year. When you think about what Scotty did and Rory did, basically the third best player in terms of going about your business in the biggest stages. I just feel like you can roll that in. We saw that with Max, you know, a couple times in Ryder Cups and President's cup, kind of riding that momentum wave to major success. I see JJ Spawn as kind of a Max Homa like, character at the Ryder cup for the Americans. I could see him having a big, big week.

Who, if we do lose, who can we blame? Is it. Is it. Will it be Keegan because he picked the wrong guys.

Yeah. Who.

Who would have? Because I want to have just something. If we lose, I want to be like, oh, we should have had this guy. I'm just going to tweet that. So tell me, like, what I can smartly tweet, like, oh, they should have picked him. That was so stupid.

Yeah.

You know, it's interesting is it would be tough to Lean on anybody. You know, outside of Keegan Pickett himself, I think he was the lone character that had an opportunity to be on this team. You know, Jordan Spieth wasn't playing great golf, although he's been great in Ryder Cups in kind of his history. And also I think he's a great personality fit for a Ryder Cup. But really, when you think about, like, you know, when you do, like, the bracket in March Madness, and there's always that one team left off that everybody gets upset about, that wasn't really the case for either of these teams this. This year. I mean, there wasn't really one guy that. That didn't make it, that you were sitting there rolling your eyes, saying, you know, asu should have been in the bracket.

Right.

And so maybe you could blame Keegan, I guess, is probably the easiest person to blame if you're looking for, like, a tweet to go semi golf viral.

Yeah.

But I don't know. I mean, maybe Koepka, like Kepka.

Yeah.

One in France. He'd have been an easy one to say, where was Koepka? Even though he hadn't really played good this year, obviously won at Beth Page Black when the. When the PGA was there a few years ago.

I like that, though. I'll just say Jordan Speed and Kapka would have won.

Yeah.

Well, if you say. If you blame Keegan, you're actually also complimenting Keegan. You should have been like, hey, if he had picked himself, we would have won.

It's a good call.

Yeah.

Believe in yourself as much as I believe in you, Keegan. I'm. I'm blaming Keegan the captain, not Keegan the golfer.

Here.

It's like. It's like when you get asked in an interview, like, what's your bit? What's your greatest flaw? And then you somehow compliment yourself.

Yeah, yeah.

Try too hard.

Yeah, Yeah.

I work. I would just work too hard.

I'm too good.

I'm too hard of a work.

Yeah.

What's it like playing with Bryson as a partner? And I guess this is more specifically towards alternate shot, but since he hits the ball so much further than everybody does, he actually end up putting his teammate in a position that they're not used to.

Maybe.

But, I mean, you guys have played golf. I mean, you'd rather hit a wedge than a seven iron. I mean, I think it's awesome to play with a guy that drives the golf ball as good as he drives the golf ball. I think if you're Justin Thomas, who it's Kind of been his Achilles in terms of the way he's played this season, driving the golf ball. It kind of has fallen off, off in terms of his consistency and his accuracy. If you're JT paired up with Bryson and you're like, dude, this guy's hitting.340, and he's hitting eight fairways or nine fairways, I mean, golf's much easier from that position. I think Bryson has potential to be a big, big star this week. I mean, obviously he's gonna get the crowd behind him, but with the way he's gonna interact and the way he's gonna kind of dive into this, if him and his partner win Thursday morning, or, sorry, Friday morning, and maybe go out and play Friday afternoon and he wins again, he's gonna feed off of that. He's gonna eat that up. And I think he's one of those guys you want to be paired up with as opposed to not wanting to be paired up.

Now, the people that are gonna be cheering for Bryson, are they going to be bots? Are they going to be real people?

Mix, probably. I'd say about half and half. Okay, I have to check the numbers. Yeah.

A wild take from. From Brandless Chimbler. Wait, what's his name?

Brand.

Brandeis.

Brando. Brandle. Ch.

Chamby Brand, though. Yeah, Wild take from Brando.

Right?

To be like, hey, this guy, all his views are bots.

I.

Listen, we've been as big a haters of Bryce in the past as pretty much anybody, but we can admit, yeah, the guy gets numbers.

I kind of thought it was, like, the perfect take. I mean, it was just like. You talk about a take that just gets people riled up, and there's no way to kind of quantify it. I thought it was maybe the perfect take about something that may or may not be true. Who the hell knows how many bots or watching a YouTube video. I thought it was kind of perfect, actually. I mean, it's ridiculous, but also I thought it was kind of a perfect take. And again, anytime you can kind of outreach golf in terms of a take, you've won a little bit.

Yeah, the number's more than zero, so he's not technically wrong. Zach, do you have any questions about the Ryder Cup?

I did have a question for Shane. Does that play? Yeah, Shane, I was curious if you. Has there been any thought to maybe a sequel to the Golfer Zoo?

Oh, we've thought about. Nice, Zach. Thank you for the question. It's really nice. That's the children's book I wrote. Big cat said it was too long, but his kids liked it.

Yeah, I skipped pages, but that's fine.

Yeah, that's fine. I, I do the same thing with, with my kids as well. I've thought about a touch feel one. So we've talked about that. I've talked to my publisher about one for maybe smaller, smaller children that you can like, touch and squeeze little golf things on it. So thank you for the question. That's very nice. You all venmo you later.

Okay.

Good question, Jack.

Perfect.

All right. So you're. You really think, like, we're not. I'm not going to bet on Europe. I refuse to bet on Europe. But if, if we were just completely. If we're a Canadian listening to this right now, you're saying Europe plus 170 is the bet.

I think it's the best. I think it's. I think the fact that you're getting plus money on Europe is wild.

Can't do it.

I would, I would. I would hammer Europe right now. I think it. I think it's potentially for blowout on the European side.

I don't like that.

Oh, I don't like it.

But this is a great, great reverse jinx.

No, Hank's not going to do it. I appreciate that.

Hank. No, not going to pull the trigger.

Nah, can't do it. You got to root for usa and again, we're just going to pretend it didn't happen if we lose.

Yeah, it's fine.

It's not a big deal.

Like golf season.

You guys talk about it on Monday if Will you guys talk about it on Monday If Europe wins 60 seconds most?

Yeah, I mean, we've skipped over a lot of stuff.

Yeah.

Chris, Biased is biased.

We're going to talk about that. Bill's Ravens game from night. That's what we'll dip into.

Yeah, way better.

Yeah, way better. All right, I got one last question. Roback question. R, H, O, B A, C K.com promo code take. Roback.com promo code take. Q, Zips, Polos, Hoodies, Joggers, Shorts. Roback.com promo code Take. What hole is your favorite hole at beth page black love?

17. I think it's be pivotal, obviously, late in the round, but I think 17. If I was going to set up shop, I'd go to 17 and watch and watch that. I think that'll be where most matches end up. 18's probably one of the weaker closing holes you'll see in terms of championship golf. It's fine, but it's not the most exciting. I think 17 is the spot.

Okay, what's the easiest hole? What's. What are the birdie holes out there?

The par fives are birdiable. I think two will be pretty gettable as well, actually. One with the T's moved up. I think Rory and Bryson will get close to driving the first. They move the tees up for the grandstands. I think there's going to be an opportunity for dudes to maybe get in those green side bunkers or get really close to the front of the green there. I'm off the tee, the longest hitter, so 1 and 2 is not a bad spot to be as well.

Okay, that's awesome. I like that. How does the pairing announcement go? Is it like we do when we do the. The Ryder cup, where it's. The team announces one pair and then Europe has a chance to respond and they get to name.

Oh, no, that's. That's pre. President's cup is. Is the comp, which I think is the way to do it. This is you present both, which is. I. I don't love it as much. I just don't think it's as much fun. But this is. That's the way they do it. That's kind of when Rory was talking about the last time out with Can't Lay and where he was going to fall on in terms of getting put out there in the third spot. That's the. The presentation is. Is simultaneous.

Okay. Is it. Is it really against the rules if, like, somebody hits a ball deep into the rough, into the gallery, and they kick it out for United States players? That. Is that really against the rules?

A fan kicks it out. No rub of the green.

Oh. Oh, okay.

Well, listen, Long island, you have a chance to prove New York is a great sports. I don't want to tell. I don't want to tell you to do anything but throw them all out there. This. This would be the funniest thing to ever happen to golf if. If we were just fairway every single drive. You're pretty much on the team if you're in the galleries.

Yeah, that's. That's an interesting home field advantage. It's like, you just act like it hits you.

Yeah.

Just bounce.

Yeah, it's like.

Right.

It's like when you're bowling with bumpers, you're golfing with them.

Yeah. I was. I was working last week with my buddy James Nitties, and he said he hit one in a tour event one time, and it hit a lady's head and kicked 30 yards. Out of bounds, and she's yelling at him. He yelled for. And she was yelling at him when he got up there about hitting her. And he's like, well, you.

You.

My ball's, like, in the hazard now. You know, you. Now I'm gonna miss the cut. You know, Now, I had an opportunity for that to be, like, in the left rough to a right hole location. I might make birdie. So, yeah, kind of rub of the green there.

Tiger had some of those guys back in the day that would give him a little foot wedge sometimes. Help them out.

Kick it out.

Yeah, just kick out.

Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, you guys. You guys are true American. I mean, it's great content, by the way. Hey, big cat, listen, the driver everywhere on the par three, I'm a big fan of. I don't like people trying to talk you out of it.

Yeah.

I also think you should go, like, driver, three wood, five wood, seven wood, nine wood in the bag, almost no irons. I think that would help you out a lot.

All right, I need. I have two years to get better. I have two years till the next Rider cup. I have to do it in secret because I want to just one day just be better than Hank. It would. It would devastate him. So I got to figure it out. I need. I need some golf.

If you showed up.

Point.

You need.

Yeah, I mean, you can. By the way, last question for you guys. There's three of you guys. You guys have been in Chicago for, what, two years now?

Yeah.

What's the. What's the total number of country clubs between the three boys in the Chicago area?

I think. I think we're up to two now.

No, you.

Did you join one? No. Oh, I think we're up to two now. All right, Hank, are you sure? I think we're about to be at two, though, aren't we?

Yeah, it's one right now.

Oh, yeah, we might be a two.

Nice.

Might be.

Hank. Hank.

Just the sweet boy over there.

Yeah.

I have to fly to Chicago, play some g. Yeah, those games are pretty nice.

Love to have you.

Oh, man. All right. Shane, you're the best. Thank you so much, man. Have fun out there.

Thank you, fellas.

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Fire Fest of the week. Henry.

Fire fest. Nothing crazy. Nothing really at all. I mean that people were saying it was a fire fest. I didn't really look at it that way. I'm washed though. One of our co workers went semi viral for posting a clip being like.

Yeah, like, oh, Jacob said this really funny.

People always ask me, you know, they say they don't know barstool. And they asked me about Hank who's just like some no name producer behind the scenes, which I just viewed as like me being washed. But I guess some people like, you got a fire fest.

Yeah. But then other people said you're the co host of the number one sports podcast.

Yeah.

Shout out to Gaz.

Yeah.

Gas number one. Hank. Hank guy.

I actually think Hank is like, you fly the highest when you get put down by something.

Something.

So like in the aftermath of someone saying that, everybody was like, you're out of your mind, Hank.

Yeah, it was.

Honestly, I appreciated support.

I appreciated the support and I honestly understood what she's saying because like I enjoy it. It makes me laugh. A lot of times when people say you work at barstool. People like, I don't really follow Barcelona. And then they will bring up like 10 barstool things. It's like, well, yeah, you follow Barcelona.

Yeah.

All those things are barstool.

Yeah.

Hank's the glue guy of this show. So I always has been. I always, I understood you are, you're the glue of the show.

What does that mean?

It means you're the glue. If you weren't here, this show would.

Fall apart and we get high when we smell you.

Yeah. Wow.

Thank you. But yeah, it was, it was, it was, it was actually nice people. A lot of people were supportive. So I appreciated it.

That's good.

But not really a firefest. I don't really have any firefights. My car didn't get broken into. I actually got it all fixed.

Oh.

Drive's good now. Going to Penn State this weekend.

State, Pennsylvania.

Steve.

Penn might be on the Jumbotron. Who knows?

Stay tuned.

Whoa. What?

Awesome.

Hank, if we are gonna be on.

The Jumbotron, possibly.

Yeah.

You got a great golf video coming out.

James Franklin.

Yeah, it is a good golf video.

Yeah, it's a good golf video.

I agree.

People should watch it.

And when we have $5,000 online, I'm gonna smoke you.

Okay.

Not that I didn't in this one.

I love when you guys fight over golf.

Yeah.

So does Shane Bacon.

Yeah, that.

That is a pretty hilarious reveal that Hank has now two golf club memberships.

Yeah.

I don't. By the way.

You're in process.

I'm thinking about it.

You're loading. Second loading.

You've mentally committed to it.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm trying to unli.

Gotta.

I'm looking for. You wanna be sitting around with sound advice?

Yeah, it is. It's an investment.

I am.

He's investing in himself.

Yeah.

How many will you get to.

I don't think I'll go more than this unless I get, like, you, money.

Yeah.

I don't think anybody stops at two. I think everybody stops at one.

Yeah.

But if you go two.

Yeah.

It's like Cats. You're just gonna get more.

You're just gonna be a golf. A golf.

There's. There's. There's functionality. Like, it. It's for a reason.

Like, you got one club you can play at. You need another club you can play at. Functionality.

Yeah.

Right?

You're getting.

Yeah.

If you get bored, then we'll just go to the other one.

Yeah. All right. All right.

PFD your firefest.

Can Shane come in here? Oh, can we get Shane in the booth for mine?

Shaney boy.

Yeah.

So we do. We do the morning show. I do. I do Thursday mornings on FS1. And we had an idea. Big Cat does the morning show as well. Hank, we need to get you on the morning show.

No, I'm thinking Jacob.

Yeah.

Get some eyeballs. I saw the awful announcing. We need some eye candy. So on today's morning show, me and Jeff D. Lowe came up with this idea. Like five years ago, we wanted to do a. A cooking show where we would try to figure out how to prepare a football and how to cook a football.

Football.

And I asked Donnie, Chef Donnie here, if he wanted to figure out how to cook a football for me and ate it on the morning show. I feel awful right now. My stomach is terrible. But guess what? I am football. Now football is a part of my blood. It'll always be in me. I'm committed to it. But when I was. I was looking for the football to cook, I stopped by Shane's desk because he had a Football on there. And so I grabbed Shane's football, and Shane was like, don't take that. That's my football. And then I looked at memes, and he was like, no, it's not actually his football. That's just. It's just an office football that Shane has claimed for himself. And so I took the football, and we cooked the football. Max even sent Shane a picture of the football being prepared, like, deflated and chilling in water. And Shane got really upset about that because it was like we were sending a ransom video or we were saying.

Why are you shaking your head?

Thanks for the dead loved one?

There were so many lies that were just so.

No.

Did you consider this your football?

No, I did not. I did not tell you. Don't take that as my football. You asked, can I take this? And I said, yeah, can you please bring it back?

Because it's my fault, but I'm gonna.

No, I'm gonna eat it.

Well, there's, like, a backstory behind why I asked. So, like, I don't know if it's all right to say, but Max. Max can be a little ADD sometimes.

Oh, yeah, no, that's fine.

How dare you?

Yeah, how are you?

How dare you?

And that's fair to say.

That's fair to say that I had a. I just wanted to quickly say, like, what if every pass before the line of scrimmage was a fumble?

Oh, that's a good take.

Yeah.

I also don't think that you can say that Max is a little. Anything.

Well.

And.

Oh, no.

Well, anyways, he will certainly say you're a little. Lot of things.

There we go.

So over the last couple months, like, now Max sits closer to me. He will, like, randomly stand up and, like, take things off my desk and, like, be talking to somebody.

Yeah.

And then just, like, forget where he puts it or, like, not put it back. And then I've had, like, to be.

Fair, Shane was so worried. I found the football, brought it back to him. He said, no, this isn't the right football. Went and checked the security tapes to see if it was the right football. It was the right football. So that's the extent of how much he cares about this.

A lot of caring about.

It's the perfect. It's the perfect throwing ball. It's, like, perfectly warm.

It was the perfect throwing ball.

And I only, like. So things will go missing from my desk. And that week, I lost a Tide stick, and I got Polynesian sauce on my sweatshirt so I couldn't get the stain out.

So Max. He Returned the correct football to your desk is what I'm hearing.

No, he did not return it to the desk.

Max, would you do that?

He threw it onto the chair right.

Next to our desk.

Well, it's behind the monitors and stuff. I couldn't see it. Then Memes grabbed it and then put it in like, a. Like a case of things on the ground. It was. I overreacted.

The case of things on the ground. Right. Next year.

But that's why I asked, can you please bring it back? Because things will go and, like, I know, like, Jack's taking the football before and just, like, left in the net out there and stuff.

It's your football.

Well, no, it's to change credit.

People do just take stuff off.

Stella.

Blue golden mugs gone missing from my desk.

Like, everything.

But you going, that was not me.

You going to try to find the football? Makes me think it's your football. Otherwise you wouldn't care.

Well, I just like the football. Like, it's.

I.

It's not something I want to lose track of.

Okay.

To say, it's your football.

No, it's not my football. The only reason I asked, I tried.

To give him another football that was the exact same make. Exact same. Like, it was the Duke, same football. And he's like, no, that's not the right football.

Yeah, it's your football.

No.

So.

So all I did was I asked he could bring it back. And then he goes, no, I'm gonna eat it.

Right.

Which I didn't. I thought he was just gonna borrow it for, like, an AD or something. So I just asked if he can bring it back. And then all I asked was, does it have to be this football? Because there's 20 footballs out there that no one touches.

That's your football. No, it's okay to say it's the.

Best football everyone uses. It's good football. It's just the perfect football.

Well, everyone can use it, but you have to bring it back to Shane's desk.

Right. Because it's your football.

Yeah.

It didn't seem like I was allowed to use it when I was using it.

That's just not true.

No, but that's because you take stuff and you wouldn't put it back like that.

I could have taken the Tide stick. That does seem like my ADD brain would, like, take a tight stick.

I used to have a. Like, a DraftKings. I'd probably basketball. I went easing off my desk. People just grab, like, stuff off my.

That football belonged to Shane.

All I did was ask if you could bring it back.

But I couldn't because I was gonna eat it. Well, I didn't.

Well, you said, can I take this? And I said, yeah, can you please bring it back when you're done? And then you go, no, I'm gonna eat it.

The look on your face, it was so sad when you realized that that football was going to get eaten. And I felt really bad about it. But if it makes you feel any better, after I ate it, I've been crapping my brains out. Apparently, there's, like, chemicals and glue. I have a. I have a physical tomorrow, and my doctor's gonna be like, how's your diet? And I'm gonna have to be like, well, I ate a football yesterday, had glue and stuff in it, so probably not. Not the. The cleanest diet in the world. So now I'm a little bit concerned, though, because, Shane, what I did, I wanted you to think that I took your football and I ate it. So then I actually, I saved your football.

Oh, good.

Which I have right here. But now I think I might have saved the wrong football. And I think we did cook and eat your football.

Well, it's not his football.

The football that was on, that was Shane's.

Right?

I. I don't say it's Shane's football.

I don't say it's. No, it's not his football.

I want.

Yeah, yeah, I'm going to buy a football. I'm going to buy it, too.

That's going to be my football. That would be my football.

So, people, I can't. I don't have to deal with.

Is that your football?

I thought that this was Shane's football, but then now I'm hearing that the football was changed, and I think that accidentally.

Is that your football?

I can't tell.

I need to feel.

Wait, let me.

Let me.

Let me see the.

You still won't know.

We've known.

Let me.

It has been proven that you don't know because this was the football that we found the security tapes for that you were adamant was not the same football. But it was the same football.

Well, there's also a scuff mark on the side, which after our conversation, I decided to look at so I could differentiate.

If you need to fully feel this football and see if it's your football, do you need to put on your rings?

I did not.

Okay. Want to see those rings so bad.

This.

This is our football this year.

This is our football.

That's your football.

Yes. Okay. Change football.

So he would know. He would know because he touches it.

Yep.

That's like a good football owner.

Yeah.

Thank you for.

For saving.

That's very kind.

I. I do feel like I'm going to die, though. Like, low key.

The football gods.

Low key.

Yeah.

This it. Whatever's in a football, it's. Again, I'm glad. I'm glad that I did it.

Yeah.

I'm. I'm really glad that I ate that football.

But it.

I'm gonna have a rough day.

All right.

My fire fest. We touched on it Wednesday. Wisconsin football is in a bad spot. I've also then just signed myself a up for a shitload of work because I did a hit on ESPN Milwaukee on Thursday and I. Or Wednesday and I told my good friend Ben Bruss, if he gets a list of the richest people who went to University of Wisconsin, I will cold call them for a video and live stream it. So that's just more work and maybe illegal work, is it? I don't know, but I'm gonna have to do that.

You can't live stream because you have to say, like, I'm recording. You're live.

Yeah.

Just hitting everyone up for months.

What if you just made a podcast?

Maybe. I just know that I used to do. I did that for a job, for a little bit, like doing the tele fund. And it's the worst job ever to call someone cold call someone, be like, hey, can we get some money? But I will do it. And I'm not looking forward to it, but I'm gonna do it.

Yeah.

Sales is. It'll take its toll on you.

Yeah.

All right, Zach, finish off.

My firefest of the week is we may have recently talked about how my apartment building did get sold to a different company.

Oh, I don't remember this.

All right, we got. We got some letters under the door the other day that was like, hey, great having you.

We're gone.

We're selling this building. New guy owns the building. My favorite face of the week is like, we've been invaded by new employees of the building. No more familiar faces. It feels like I'm living in enemy lines.

Oh, yeah.

Like, new regime. That's exactly what it feels like. There's like, an unsettling energy of, like, will we, like, be able to continue to stay here? We got different policies with the mail.

Are they just trying to squeeze you out?

Like, that could also be the case. It feels like. It feels. It feels really tense in every floor of the building now.

No pajamas in the hallway.

I wouldn't even risk it. I might Even go full formal. Formal in the hallway now. Yeah, it's. I don't know what the future looks like, but it does look like it's. Every time. Every day I get home, it feels like an away game now rather than, like a safe space.

Are they doing stuff where. Since they're. Since they're new, are they, like, putting breakfast out for you guys or trying to make it seem like they're a cool management company?

So the other day they did. They put, like, two pots of coffee downstairs by the front door, but there was also, like, six new guys walking around, shirts tucked in with clipboards, just noting stuff down. I was like, this can't be good.

Yeah, that's what they.

That's what they do. They'll put out, like, the worst continental breakfast and be like, hey, we're such a nice management company. I look forward to working with you guys.

Yeah.

As your tenant here. By the way, rent's going up a thousand dollars a month, but you get. Look, we got a bagel for you.

I can feel that there's a. Like, a looming sense of. That's what's going to happen.

Yeah, yeah.

We got Big Texas, but by the way, we're going to 30% increase.

Yeah, yeah.

Don't let them do that to you, Zach.

I'm going to try. Stand strong, but I don't think it's.

Going to work out.

Your lease is up, what, six months?

Yeah. Preaching.

You could hardball, Zach. You could organize a rent strike.

Yeah, like a picket.

Well, just tell everybody in your apartment building, don't pay the rent to the new company. They can't affect all of us.

They.

That's another thing. They shut the portal down, so now I gotta figure out how to get a checkbook. I've never done that before.

Okay.

Have you ever written a check?

I have.

Not outside of, like, school, like, teaching you how to write a check.

Okay, I've been.

Checklist.

Do you guys have checkbooks?

I do.

I do not have a checkbook.

Me neither. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

Good show, boys.

Gotta pay the dink guy somehow.

Ready? No.

Penalty box.

No. Ready. Set. No. Number three.

Oh, that's close. I go four.

I'm gonna go five.

I got it.

I'm looking at a video. Jaden practicing right now. I. I think he's playing.

I got it.

I'll go 22.

39, 33.

Zach, the Zach reveals all time.

99. Pokemon.

Just look at the numbers on the thing.

Yeah, you're hot. What was your number, Zach?

39.

Zach said he's actively trying not to get it.

97. 97. Well, memes is actively trying not to get it, too. Guy will never get it. I've stood on that hill.

It's.

It's much more impressive to not get it.

Yeah, right.

How many. How many people have gotten it? Everybody.

Yeah.

How many people have it trying to get it? Every time one guy has a gun, it.

Love you guys.

Sa.