Transcript of Playoff Baseball, CFB With Brandon Walker, Ole Miss Head Coach Lane Kiffin, Jets And Bengals Are A Disaster + Guys On Chicks

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Hey, football guy.

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Welcome to part of my take. Today is Wednesday, October 1st. And October means one thing. PFT. Playoff baseball. We started the wild card and it was host day.

I was gonna say it's time to wake up Billy Joe Armstrong.

Yes. Yes.

You're. You're also correct. Tarek Scuba was awesome today. Incredible. He'd have 14 strikeouts.

14 strike. It was Tarik. Scuba was. Was a hoss. Garrett Crochet was a horse. Blake Snell was a horse. First time I think he's ever had six. Six innings. What are you doing? What are you doing there, Hank? What are you doing?

Southpaw. Southpaw day.

The.

The Horses came to play today. We had the opening round of the wild card in playoff baseball, which underrated day. We were saying it. The boys were chopping it up before we were recording. We're doing this on Zoom right now. We're back in studio for the rest of the show with Brandon Walker and Lane Kiffin. We were saying this is kind of underrated. This sneaky, great, great day in the sports calendar year where you're like, oh, shit, we get four baseball games all day and we just like noon hits. And you're like, holy shit, it's playoff baseball time.

It's a really good day. But I think maybe the all time great day talk might be influenced by the fact that you guys have three teams in the playoffs that you're all super excited about.

That's fair. That's totally fair. It was mostly. Max loves baseball. Max, a baseball guy, he is through and through. And he was saying that he loves baseball. He was tuned into every game. He's a seam head. That's facts, Max. Right.

Yeah, I know. I mean, meaningful sports that are. That mean this much during the day, the work day don't come around often.

That's true.

So it's like. That's all I was saying, is that there's only a few days in the calendar year. Well, I said meaningful, meaningful sports have.

Mean this much during the day don't come around that often.

I mean, you're right. Like, have it. Having good, meaningful sports on during a meaningful day is extra meaningful.

Right. Big time.

And it's meaningful to me.

Right.

And that's really what matters.

And it's.

Yeah.

It means a lot to you. But yeah. Let's. Let's break down. What do you got, Hank?

I just can't get over ever since Zach has joined the. These zoom calls with the nice camera looking at Zach and then looking at Max looking like he's doing, like, sales.

Yeah.

Is just.

It's tough to get over Zach. It's a wild difference.

Zach's camera. Like, I don't want to. I don't want to take this in a weird direction, but it does look like we're like about to enter a porn with Zach. You know, like those, like, they're like, oh, it's the 8 4K girl with the POV glasses. Holy. You can feel like you're getting. That's what I feel like Zach's about to do to us. No porn over here. Okay. All right. Well, it is.

I also like how his camera is, like, off center just a little bit that he's looking into. It's kind of cool. It's like we're all looking at the screen, at each other, and Zach's like, yeah, chilling off to the side. Like, you're looking at me, but I might not be looking at you.

Yeah, I can fix that. No, no, the eye contact a little bit. No, it looks great. All right, let's break down the games. Game one, ter go. Incredible performance, 14 strikeouts. Tigers got in a little bit of trouble there in the ninth with Javi Baez having an error. Look like the Guardians, like the Guardians, at least the way they finished the season, have some team of destiny type of vibes. And when that happened, it was like, oh, boy, they're about to waste Tarek Skubal's 14 strikeout performance. A total. Like he just shoved in every definition because he's had some starts. I think it was, what, a week ago where he lost to the Guardians. So this was like, yeah, I am the boss. I am the man. I'll come into Cleveland. I'll do this. And they almost blew it, but they were saved in the end. And the, the Tigers, like, this is the beauty of October. They finished the season so bad, and it's. Now they're up one and it's a new season for them.

Yeah, it was a week ago. I think he hit somebody in the face. Yeah, then he. Yeah, then he came back and pitched almost as many pitches as he's pitched this year in a game. Was still hitting the high velocity at the end. And if you beat him, you can't give up, like, rinky dink runs. You can't. You can't let the Tigers luck into any runs out there because you're not going to get it back against Google. Yeah, so, like the errors in the outfield, careless stuff. But I do, I do see the Guardians being one team that they could up just by playing, like, weird small ball. Yeah, I could see them doing that. But you're gonna have to do a lot of it against Scuba. And they didn't have. They didn't have enough.

Yeah, he was absolutely sensational. And I just. There's something about him, like the way he yells on the mound. His, his, his, his size. He's just a. He's a throwback ace in every respect.

He also went and, and visited that guy in the hospital, too.

Yeah, he did.

Ultimate. Ultimate Respect.

Yeah.

Scubal's the man. He's. He's a great dude, and he's the man. And he absolutely shoved today. Game two, I was at game two. I was at Wrigley. It was electric. Very nerve wracking because the Cubs look like they didn't have much of an offense. And then we had back to back home runs. And Craig Counsel, who has been maligned at times in his stay in Chicago, did a perfect job with the bullpen. And the bullpen had, I think it was four and a third or four and two thirds perfect innings to close the game. So Boyd started, had, you know, like a blooper double and then a hard hit double to give up a run. Stranded a guy on third in the second, which was huge. And. And then Palencia, who, you know was the closer, got injured, came back, came in in the fifth and was lights out for five outs and was just like electric. And the crowd was. It was awesome because the Cubs haven't won a playoff game since 2017, so it'd been a long time. They hadn't had a playoff game at Wrigley with fans since then as well.

Tell me about the mood in the stadium for the back to back Jacks, dude. Because back to back playoff home runs, especially in a. In a situation like that, it just. It seems like the best place to be on earth.

It was so electric. And for. I mean, say his home run was absolutely pissed on. It was out so fast. I also saw afterwards that ESPN muted the crowd, like as he was rounding the bases, which is an absolutely insane thing to do for playoff baseball. The crowds in playoff baseball are so much fun. And it was so loud at Wrigley. And then Kelly's home run, which I didn't think was gonna go out, it just kind of kept on going. It was like the opposite of say is where it just like, was like, oh, shit, is this gonna go out? Oh, shit, is this gonna go out? Oh, shit. It just went out and then the roof came off and it was just like, everyone was just absolute euphoria at Wrigley. And it was so much fun.

Was it high five strangers?

Oh, dude. It was high five strangers. We had.

So.

We had. We had some. So I. I went with my friend Dave. Titus and Eddie came with me. I brought them. And there was four stoolies in front of us who, like, they heard me and Eddie talking or me and Titus talking. I was sitting next to Titus maybe in like the second inning, and they turned around and they're just like, oh, it's you guys. They became instant friends. High fiving, just going crazy. High fiving everyone in front, high fiving everyone in back. And then not to. I, I love PCA because he's the best. But I did say after the back to back home runs, I was like, if I could bet a million dollars right now on PCA striking out swinging, I would do it. And he did because he was feeling like the, the mood was just, he wanted to launch one so bad. So bad.

Yeah, I, I, I love that feeling. When you're high fiving strangers at a sporting event. That's how guys make new friends. Yeah, it's just like, it's, it's the best feeling in the world. You turn around, there's a hand in the air, high five. Hand in the air, high five. You spill a drink on yourself. Doesn't matter. The mood seemed awesome for that. What about the, the deep shot?

Best friends you'll never meet see again in your life.

Yeah. Yeah.

I mean we took, we, we literally still best friends. My, my, my computer is making noise there. We literally took a picture after the game, like all of us. It was like, this is awesome. We all got into a group picture. It's like that was a fucking great day. It was just a beautiful, beautiful, like there was not a cloud in the sky. Everyone was in a great mood. It was awesome.

Yeah, that's, that's how dudes make friends. Girls like chat with each other at workout classes and get each other's phone number. Guys just high five another drunk dude and then become best friends for like two and a half hours. Yeah, it's like a one day stand. It's, it's a great feeling. What about the pca? The, the catch at the warning track? Was that the ninth inning? Yeah, because that, when that, when that ball got hit, I thought, oh, here we go.

I actually wasn't that worried about it. I think I have a pretty good sense of like, because you know the crowd will like if there's a hard hit ball, like Michael Bush hit one in the first inning where everyone like went crazy. I was like, there's no way that's out. I have a pretty good sense. So I was just like, just catch it, just catch it. And I was just more worried anything that went towards Seya because he's playing right now and he's, he's not the best, he's a serviceable outfielder, but he also can things up. And so like there was one that was, I think, I can't remember. It's maybe the sixth inning where it was in between them and SEO wanted it and PCA was like, no, it's mine. And like called him off. Also, Dansby Swanson's awesome at defense. That's something that just doesn't like. It's such an underrated thing because you, the. I, I forgot. Like, playoff baseball, you basically spend every inning, every. If you're a home team, every top of the inning. You're just so scared because you're like, only bad things can happen right now. And then when you get to the bottom, you're like, all right, I can breathe a little.

Like, let's just hope we can string together a couple runs. You know what I mean? So it's that up and down constantly that goes back and forth where you're just like, this is like if a guy, if a runner gets on in playoff baseball, you're like, this is, this is over. We're. We're so.

Yeah, yeah.

And also, I'll give you a little analytics. I don't know if you can bet this on the DraftKings sportsbook. Maybe we can, maybe we can figure out a way to get this listed. Mark Titus and I have gone to two Cubs playoff games together in our lives. Both wins, both games. The Cubs hit back to back home runs and I'm taking them tomorrow.

Okay.

So I don't know if you can bet it back to back home runs again. If we go three for three. That would be insane.

I don't know that that should be a prop. Back to back.

Yeah.

So it was the, it was the game one of the NLCS in 2016 when Miguel Montero and I think it was Dexter Fowler right after we were on the bleachers and then today. So I don't know, maybe bet it. I, I don't know how you can bet it, but it was, it was an awesome day. It was very, very fun. I was very like, it was just, it was just a great day. It was like one of those like perfect days. You're like, this was so much fun and had a great time. And it's also the shout out to pitch clock. Like I, I had a very hard. I went from Cubs game high fiving like euphoria directly into my son's 6 year old soccer practice. Like sitting there watching kids like fall over the ball and stuff. And I was like, you know what? This is life now. But shout out to pitch clock because I made it to a soccer practice with plenty of time.

You're children on the sidelines. They don't Know that the Cubs just want a playoff game.

I was just like. I was like, that was really fun. And now I'm here and, you know, and. And, like, basically, like, making sure my daughter doesn't kill herself on the playground. All right, the third game, another Hoss crochet.

Hank.

Unbelievable. He had. What do you have, 14 straight outs?

Yeah, he was. Had the ball on a string. Beautiful. Beautiful thing to watch.

So were you nervous at all in this game because it was what, one. One solo home run for the Yankees, and then the. The Red Sox actually played, like, good playoff baseball, manufacturing some runs.

Yeah. So, Guard, this is.

This is.

This is Pink Hat Henry or newcomer Henry. I was always under the impression that Aaron Judge had an absolute cannon.

And then.

So Guard ran out a single into a double, and everyone was like, yeah, they knew, like, Judge's arm is a noodle arm now and he can't throw and, like, made him, you know, wouldn't look stupid.

He got hurt.

That's news to me. I guess that's.

Yeah. Yeah.

So. And then manufactured runs. And the. The ninth inning was interesting because Chapman came in in the eighth for one out. And then back in the ninth, and he loaded the bases with no outs, and the Yankees didn't score any runs. The weirdest part was. Did you hear the broadcast being like, he's not sweating yet.

Yeah.

I don't know what that was all about. That was so, like, usually he's sweating a lot and he hasn't sweat. He's not sweating yet. And then he loaded the bases and he. They're like, look, he's sweating now. And then he just mowed everyone down.

By the way, the entire broadcast. The audio for that broadcast, I don't know what was going on where it sounded like there was a hand grenade going off every time there was an out. Did you guys hear that?

Yeah, because I heard a lot of.

People saying, oh, I thought that was just on my tv. It was. It was unlistable. I had to turn the sound almost all the way down for the entire game. I don't know what they had. If they had a mic on first base. If they. If the crowd was just redlining. I don't know what it was, but ESPN's got to figure that shit out.

Yeah.

Stop mutings crowd noise and figure out the hand grenade situation. Pretty terrible.

But, yeah, Chapman went out there, pissed down his leg immediately, and then. And then just settled in. But I saw a stat that the Yankees are the first team in postseason history to load the bases with Nobody out in the bottom of the ninth, but not score a run and lose the game.

Jesus.

Pretty crazy.

Jesus did have a big.

Red Sox fans.

Yeah, he did.

Yeah, he ripped that one nicely up the middle.

He had a huge single reporter.

PMT field reporter Gaz was there. He said it was Fenway South. So that was. That was good to hear. A lot of red. So Sox fans.

Oh, yeah.

Wait, what was your question? Pft. Panic button.

I was just wondering, like, what the. What is the panic meter for a Yankees fan right now?

I mean, the three game series thing is crazy. It. It really is like the. Cause I'm sitting here, you know, the cubs are up 1 0, and I'm like, oh, this is great. Like, obviously you still. There's two more games, but it's just being down.01 and having an elimination game like that is. It's crazy. So the panic buttons got to be way out. And I think I. I just saw, like, my Twitter explode with just people being like, Aaron Boone's the dumbest person ever. I was like, oh, it's October. That was literally the turning of the.

Clocks because I saw that extend. Boone was trending again.

And I agree.

We've always said that about Aaron. But listen, you got to give the man some time to implement his systems. You got to have a steady hand guiding the. The New York Yankees through a tumultuous time in baseball. Aaron Boone's the guy. Keep him around.

Yeah.

So my. My last question about this game was, did we. Did we find a hack on live betting? Chapman, with the sweating thing? Because the announcers called it out and they were actually correct that he did start to sweat and then he started to pitch.

Well, is there a chance that maybe after he pitched in the eighth inning, he used a towel?

Maybe. I don't know. But he need. The guy needs sweat on him to perform. He is a sweaty guy. They are right about that. But I didn't. Like, I wasn't watching close enough to be like, oh, he doesn't have any sweat on him.

Yeah, that doesn't. That doesn't really hold up. I. I don't know. I don't know. It's a very weird thing for the announcers to zero in on. I was wondering why they're making a big deal out of it. But, yeah, if he doesn't sweat. Yeah, I'll load up on him.

Yeah.

All right. The last game, which is still in the seventh inning, but we're calling it early. The Dodgers are so fucking unf. They're so good. They're like just to even start this game with Shohei hitting a leadoff home run, it's like, oh, like that might be the fastest that a team's ever been eliminated.

He smacked the out of that ball too. That ball was gone.

And then he hit another one. And then Tioscar Hernandez hit two. And it's just like. And then Freddie Freeman hit a double. It's just, they just. The waves of Dodger hitters are just insane. And now the Reds obviously are not. You know, it's a little bit of a mismatch. A great story that the Reds are in the playoffs, but the Dodgers look. And then Blake Snell, I think it was his first time. I got to try to find that stat. I think it was his first time going into the sixth in a playoff game. And he was electric as well. So it's like if he starts pitching like an absolute horse. Yeah, he's probably too skinny to be a hoss. For the first time. Jeff Passon said, for the first time in his career, Blake Snell was thrown a six inning, six innings in a postseason game. And they've been phenomenal. One hit, one walk, nine strikeouts, only 70 pitches. He gave up a run in the seventh, but yeah, he was lights out.

Yeah, I agree. I don't think that he's a host though.

He's a.

He's too small.

He's a pony.

Yeah.

All right. Any.

The back to back Jackson. That game was, was awesome too. Rob Lowe. Shout out. Rob Lowe in the crowd tonight.

Yep.

They showed him. Then they showed Bateman. They started running out of celebrities. There were so many home runs. Yeah, I did not know. I did not know this because somebody sent it to me. Did you know that Rob Lowe is a. He grew up a die hard Cincinnati Reds fan.

Is he from Ohio? Yeah, I think I did.

So he's like.

I think I did know that.

So he, he was like. He was like taunting the Reds after the back to back home runs, despite the fact. You know what I'm going to give Rob Lowe a pass on.

Did he have his MLB hat on?

He did not. He was wearing a normal hat. I photoshopped the Major League Baseball umpires logo onto it though.

Nice.

So. So pretty much. But yeah, if I was Rob Low in that situation, it's like if you're beating the shit out of the Reds, the team that you love growing up, I probably wouldn't be like demanding the camera put me on.

No, I mean the Reds are just. It's a nice story. We'll see. Hey, listen, game two, you never know what's going to happen. Cause that is the, the, the beauty. Going back to the three game format. The Reds win, all the pressure's back on the Dodgers. So you never know. Yeah, like all these things.

I got a question for you.

Max doesn't think so. Max is shaking his head.

Well, there's also like, I think there's a stat stat that the team that WINS the game one of the wild card series goes on the win 92% of the time.

Oh, that's pretty significant.

Probably because they're the better team and also they're at home and they're up one nothing.

Yeah, well, it's not always the home.

Team and well, the Red and the Reds suck memes. I got a question for you regarding the Reds. Are you actively rooting against the Reds right now?

Yeah, this is a nice hate watch for me. They got to be the sacrificial lamb.

Were you happy that the jets official Twitter account jinx the Yankees.

With the good luck?

Yeah, yeah.

That, that's also a nice hate watch.

I'm hate watching the entire playoffs.

Hank, you seemed skeptical when Meme said that he was, he was rooting against the Reds.

The Reds stole the Mets.

But the Mets could have. The Mets stole their own spot. They played themselves.

Also true. Also true.

Like it's not like the Reds beat the Mets in a, in a season ending series.

But it does have to feel a little bit better watching the Dodgers just be insane and being like the Mets would have wouldn't have won this series.

Yeah.

All in la.

Yeah. Yeah.

Went on the road against anybody this year. There's no way they were winning this series in la.

Yeah.

We'll never know though.

You never know. Guess we'll never know. I, I like, I, I, I think Meme should get to hate watch whatever he wants. Let him hate watch the out of these playoffs.

No.

Yeah, I'm backing, I'm defending him. I'm like this is, this is a good watch. This is a good watch.

Yeah.

On something and anything.

Yeah.

Max is scared.

You guys are scared of the hate watch.

What?

We're scared of the hate watch.

What's that?

Scared to be on the, the memes bad side of a hate watch, I think.

Yeah, yeah.

We're all on the hate watch.

Yeah.

You're just lucky he's playing the Yankees. Both the Red Sox and the Yankees.

You're next up, buddy. Like I'm getting, I'm the only one who's getting hate watched right now. But your guys are both going to be up. He's hate watching. He's rooting for the pods.

Yeah, but I'm also rooting for Chicago. Live in Chicago.

But no, you're not.

You're rooting for the P. What are you talking about?

You want, you want everyone. You want, you want everyone in the.

Office to be happy. You want everyone in the office to be like, happy, Comfortable about the Cubs.

That's a great thing about sports hate watch the out of these playoffs.

Yeah.

If you're miserable, you want everybody else around you to be just as miserable as you are.

So I'm gonna be honest.

Everyone was rooting for the Guardians in the cave. I wanted them to lose.

So, so memes. What, what's your, what's your perfect World Series then? Would it be like brewers versus Blue Jays?

Mariners. I'm running for the Mariners.

Okay.

Yep. Seattle.

Good sports sound.

Okay.

I'll go.

Cubs or Brewers?

Okay.

You don't mean that.

Yeah, you don't mean that. I know he means Bruce.

That was just an omission.

It's fine.

Would be.

That's the ultimate hate watch.

It is.

It is. I, I, I respect your hate watch. All right. Two things before we get kick it to ourselves. And then, like I said, we have Brandon Walker and Lane Kiffin. 1. Is it Dylan Gabriel time?

Yes.

I think it is, right?

It's going to be.

Yeah, it's about to be.

Yeah.

So it's sad, but it's time.

Do you think it might be a mistake to do the Dylan Gabriel time when they have to fly to Europe and play against a Brian Flores defense?

Brian Flores is very happy that this is happening. He's going to blitz the fuck out of him. That traditionally works well in England. And it's going to be, it's going to be a tough start for him. But the good news is the Vikings don't really have a great answer at quarterback right now. The Browns defense is awesome, too.

Yeah.

So it's going to be, I think it's going to be a winnable game for him. I don't think that either team is going to blow the other one out. So I'd say, like, in a weird way, it's almost less pressure doing it overseas than it would be doing it back at home.

True, true. No one's gonna watch. We're all gonna watch.

Yeah.

It is going to be this. This might be the London of the year.

Yes, I'd agree, but it might be too obvious.

Might be like a 10 to 2.

Game, but it might be so obvious. I psych myself out and take the over and then watch the 10 to 2 game and be like, why are you so stupid?

Guess the over. Under.

I'm gonna guess it can't be more than 40.

37 and a half.

I was gonna say. I was gonna say 37 flat. It can't be over 40.

Sports book.

It's.

It's 36 and a half.

Oh, wow. We're both off. It's lower than we both thought, so.

I love that, though. It's a challenge.

No, that means our statistical model says we got to take the over by a point. Yeah, we had 37 and 37 and a half. Okay. And the other thing I had was. Anyone want to take a shot? Zach, why don't you take a shot at explaining what's going on in the WNBA right now? I do not understand it, but I just saw a lot of tweets about it.

Is it regarding the WNBA saying that the only reason Caitlin Clark is getting her advertisements is because of the wnba? Is that we're talking about.

I think it was Nafisa.

Yeah, that was. I think that was a bold statement.

Okay. By wnba. Okay, so there we go.

Wait, a bold statement by. By the players or by the league?

What was that?

Who made the bold statement? I think.

I think the league saying that the league is responsible for all of Caitlin Clark's brand deals is crazy.

Okay.

Insane. Yeah, agreed.

I don't know if the league said it. I think it was Nafisa said it. Oh, Nafisa.

I retract that. Nafisa wild statement from Nafisa. I don't want to put that on the league.

Wait, I thought. I thought Nafisa said that. The league told her that.

Oh, okay, go back, Zach. This is some really good. This is where we get into idiot jazz. So. So it's the league through Nafisa.

Yes. I believe Nafisa was speaking to the league and complaining about the. The young players and the pay scale. And then the league said to Nafisa, you're lucky that you guys get those endorsements, because we bring you those endorsements. And then Nafisa said the league said that. And then everyone was like, that was wild for the league to tell Nafisa that.

Oh, so Nafisa wasn't going after Caitlin Clark?

I don't think so.

Okay. So the league was going. Was basically being like, you're. Like, you and Caitlin Clark are lucky. You have us.

All right? So I'm going to. I'm going to do the audience a favor by reading one article about this.

Okay, all right, all right.

I think I agree with everything Collier said. That's Nafisa.

Okay.

Said Lexi hall, the Fever's alternate player rep for the wnb. Wnbpa.

Wait.

We're at a really important time in the league and changes need to be made. And so you're seeing her talk about that and proud of her for making that statement. Today we.

Pft. Read a. Read a full article to yourself and then while memes ranks his hate watch teams and then come back to us with. With the summary. Memes, hate watch teams who you're. Who you're rooting for to lose in the most sad, like torturous fashion and then go down from there.

Or.

Or you.

Yeah.

Or just which. Where you want our teams to lose in the playoffs.

Yeah.

And how.

Yeah.

All right, so number one, I'll go with Phillies.

Okay.

Hate the Phillies. Would like. I would like them to go nine innings each time, get walked off each time in the.

In the DS.

By the Dodgers.

Oh, okay. Okay. Walked off in nine inch. So sweep though.

Yeah, sweep.

Okay. A walk off sweep.

That's impossible. But continue.

Yankees number two.

Oh, yeah.

That is impossible.

The first two games are at home.

Yankees number two.

Okay.

I would like also to take them out tomorrow, but it's like 10, 10 to nothing.

That's ideal.

Keep going.

I'll throw Blue Jays at three.

Oh, nice.

Canada.

Boo.

Okay.

Memes, you walked into the office today and looked at Big Cat and said, let's go, pods.

Yeah.

No, you.

The trustery branched together.

Yeah, we did come back together, but that's a little preview for later. But you can throw the Cubs in there. Where do you want the Cubs to lose? You want to also get walked off by the Dodgers?

Game seven, World Series.

Okay, to who? The Mariners.

To the Mariners.

Okay. What about the Red Sox?

I love my Wrigley.

It'll be fun.

I don't hate the Red Sox that bad. We'll put them at five.

Okay, but how do you want them to lose.

To the Mariners?

Yeah.

Yes. Okay. Okay. Anyone else? Dodgers. Dodgers.

Yeah. They get.

Okay.

NLCS to the Cubs.

Okay, great.

This is a great. Someone needs to make the hate watch. Bad. Mariners over Mariners over Cubs. Parlayed with the the Cubs over the Dodgers. Parlayed with the Dodgers on all walk off home runs against the Phillies.

Yep.

Which is impossible.

Which is impossible.

Sweep of walk off home runs over the Phillies would be so good for this program. No.

Yeah.

What?

It.

What?

If possible.

No, hold on. Hold on. What memes? No, me. What? We can. We can workshop this. Memes. What if game one and two is the exact same catch? Robbing a home run. Walk off. You like that. And then game three is a walk off. Yeah, game three is a walk off. Exact same ball hit to the exact same spot. And the Philly center fielder doesn't catch.

It bounces off his head.

Yeah.

So all three are exactly the same.

This is. I hate that you. This is such that you're even like, manifesting this into the world.

I mean, factor fiction.

Yeah, we're not manifesting.

You're speaking it in.

The hate watch.

He wants a hate watch. All right, Max, if that exact scenario happens in three games, I will give you $1 million cash. Okay, okay, I'll match it. It has to match it. The ball has to be at the exact same place three times in a row to end the game. Two of them catches over the wall. One of them hitting a guy in the head and going over the wall.

No, thanks.

$2 million cash.

If I had a choice.

Imagine if we get. What if we get to game three and it happened in game one and two and Max is just rooting for it and it doesn't hit him in the head.

Max, you have to say. You have to tell us right now. Do you accept it? Do you accept the $2 million?

I do not accept the $2 million.

Okay, $5 million.

Okay. If five. I'll take the five.

Okay.

All right.

You're for not accepting $2 million. If you.

Where's your price?

Four and a half.

He just got five. He just got. I just got five. So how am I a. Yeah, good job. Good.

In that moment, I still will be like, I want this ball to be a home run for sure.

You mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, of course.

If it got. If it got to that third game and it was like you either get $5 million or. Or the walk off home run in my favor. I would take the walk off home run.

Although, listen, if this happens, this clip will just be. We'll just market ourselves as. As fortune tellers and we'll make. It will pay for itself. This clip be more than $5 million. All right, PFT finishes off with the WNBA report.

All right, so here's the news. I think I was right about this. So Nafisa Collier is the head of the wnbpa. That's the WNBA Players Association. She's the player rep. She met with the commissioner. Kathy Engelbert called her negligent. Kathy Engelbert fired back at her, made some allusions to the fact that the young players, instead of asking for more money, should be happy with the sponsorship deals that the league brings into them. To which Nafisa Collier, or apparently Fee, as she's called, made that statement publicly known to the rest of her to all the other player reps, and they all agreed with her. Like this lady, Kathy Engelbert is full of shit. We got your back, Fee. Paige Bucher's posted a story on Instagram that said Queen Fee. There's a picture of Nabisa Collier and Elena Del Dunn posted on Instagram as well. And she said, it's the care for the human part for me. I'm still not sure if Kathy knows I retired.

Oh.

So, yeah, they don't like. Bottom line is they hate Kathy. Kathy, you got to get out of town.

Edd is my goat.

Edd is great. Yeah, I'm a Page Bucher guy. I'm a PB guy.

Yeah. Damn.

Okay, so we got some. We got some tumultuous things happening.

So. Yeah, I guess. Are we an anti Kathy podcast?

No. Kathy. Kathy. Her. She's a.

And the horse she wrote in on.

Yeah, I don't like her.

Yeah.

Yeah, there we go. Zach. Hater.

Hater.

Zach, what are your thoughts regarding Kathy out on Kathy?

If the WNBA wants to pay us a ton of money to say pro WNBA things, we will accept.

Yeah, I'll.

I'll switch up real quick.

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Boys, two bad Monday Night Football games equals. I don't know. I. I was thinking maybe one good game, but it really doesn't. It actually, like, almost goes the other direction where it's like three bad games. Because it was such a bummer watching Monday Night Football. Double header.

Yeah.

If you're gonna have two bad games, I would like for one to be so bad that it turns good.

Yeah.

And it was just kind of two bad games that were bad.

Yeah.

Or boring bad. We learned something last night.

Okay.

Joe Burrow might be the best athlete to ever play sports.

Okay.

Yeah.

I was gonna say, like, Joe Burrow for mvp. I've heard people say that. I think it goes past that.

Yeah. So let's start with that game.

The. The.

The big takeaway from that game. Well, there's two takeaways, in my opinion. One is the Broncos needed that game. Bo Nicks back on track. That was the Broncos offensive output that they were hoping for in the first three weeks. They looked sensational. Their defense looked awesome.

Sean Payton got his first 100 yard rusher out in Denver.

Yep.

Yep.

So it was like, basically everything worked for the Broncos. It was a no doubter.

And.

And like I said, Bo Nick's, like, getting a little comfortable. Cortland Sutton's really good. I mean, they have guys everywhere. It feels like the Broncos have a ton of team speed.

Do they get. Do they have guys at every level?

They do.

Think about all the levels they got. Offensive line, I'd say. What's his Name, Quinn Minors.

Yep.

That's. That's a guy at that level.

Yep.

They got a guy at the receiver level. Maybe they might have two because they've got a great blocking receiver, too. What's that guy's name? Young guy through a great block. Anyways. He's great. Then they've got maybe two guys at the running back level.

Yep.

And they've got Bo Nicks at the quarterback level. And then we can talk about their defense just being awesome.

Their defense is awesome. Their defensive line gets after the passer. Their. Their secondary is awesome. The Broncos. This was the game they needed.

Yeah.

And then on the other side, we got to figure out the Bengals situation. We cannot watch more primetime games with these Bengals. The Bengals, right now, in the last two games, they've had 22 drives on offense. 14 of those drives have ended in a punt, five of them in a turnover. So 19 out of 22 drives, their last two games have been a turnover or a punt. That is so, so bad, and it is so, so depressing. And it's hard to watch T. Higgins and Jamar Chase be like, what are we doing? And they can't get the ball out, and they can't do anything.

Here's a crazy stat. Did you know that the Bengals have been outscored 14 to 13 when they're on offense in the last two weeks?

Because Isaiah Rogers.

Because Isaiah Rogers had two.

Yeah.

Two returns for touchdowns.

It's.

It's their. Their offense is down 13 to 14 against opposing teams. Defenses over the last two weeks.

Yeah, it's. It's very, very brutal to watch. And I don't.

I.

We have more Bengals primetime games coming up. We need Jameis so, so badly. It does feel like this was also, like. I don't know. I was like, oh, yeah, the Bengals are two. And, oh, Joe Burrows hurt. Yeah, it's. He's going to be out for a long time, but maybe they can tread water. I no longer think they can tread.

Oh, I think the rest of the team. It's not just Jake Browning. I think the entire team knows that we're fucked here and we can't come back from this hot seat. Zach Taylor, it's back. Maybe because the team didn't look like they were giving any effort at all last night. So I. I looked it up. Here's how bad the situation is. Big cat for the national TV audience. So this is why it impacts you at home.

By the way, Troy Franklin, I think, was the guy.

Troy.

Yeah, yeah.

Great blocker, national audience. You're going to be subjected to so much Bengals over the next month, month and a half. This impacts you at home, even if you're not a Bengals fan because you're a psa. This is a psa. Next two weeks, they've got the Lions and the Packers. That's going to be the 4:30 time slot. So the national game.

Okay.

Then Thursday Night Football against the Steelers. Oh, then they're going to have a Thanksgiving game and then they go back to the national game. 430 against the Bills. Then Sunday Night Football against the Dolphins.

Oh, they have the Thanksgiving night game.

This is, this is going to tear families apart. If you weren't in an argument with your uncle already on Thanksgiving, you will be in an argument with him by the time this game's over because everyone's going to be pissed off. And if you look at the quarterback situation there, they've got Jake Browning, Mike White, Brett Rippon, Sean Clifford. There is a common thread between all those guys. They're cheap. Combined, they cost 2.1 million against the cap. Jamis makes 3 million for. In theory, a third string quarterback. Mike Brown does not want to pay a backup. Backup quarterback, a third option quarterback, $3 million.

Could we do a GoFundMe?

That's what I put out on Twitter last night. Yeah, I think that we can do a GoFundMe and at least maybe make up the difference between what their combined backups make and what he's going to have to pay Jameis Winston. If Mike Brown would be open to that. Yeah, because this is, it's a national.

Emergency and their offensive line obviously is bad. So it's going to be tough for any quarterback that plays Cincinnati. But at least James is going to sling it. At least he's going to throw it.

He's going to throw it and it's going to be fun. And Jamar, the problem is like Jamar Chase is checked out right now.

Yeah, rightfully so. It was, I mean, it, it was frustrating watching the, the, there was a couple deep shots early that were missed and then just not being able to get the ball out, it's, it's really bad.

The Broncos credit. They, they did play. They've got a great secondary. And so whether it was Riley Moss or if it was certain that was on Jamar Chase, it didn't look like there was a lot of separation going on across the board. But still, you gotta, you gotta at least make us want to watch these primetime games.

Yeah, the Bengals. Yeah. And I, I agree, like the, the Broncos, that was A statement win. I know the Bengals are bad, but they needed that. And like, it feels like the Broncos are back on track. 2 and 2. So in the last two games, the Bengals have lost by 25 points plus points, had under 200 total yards, had under 60 rushing yards, been outrushed by 100 plus yards, and taken three SA. No other NFL team has done that combo in back to back games in the super bowl era, which it sounds like, oh, that's a lot of stuff you just listed, but still, it's basically a lot of stuff being like they're really, really bad and there have been a lot of really, really bad teams, but they are historically bad in the last two games.

Very, very bad.

Very, very bad. Bummer to watch. Other game. Jets, Dolphins. Let's start with the Dolphins. Dolphins. I got to give credit to them first of all. Kind of liked their jerseys.

Yeah.

Like I, I, they were, they were kind of in that realm of not real NFL jerseys, like 2K. A teenager came up with them in an alternate world, but I, I kind of liked them.

Well, it's a hack for NFL teams. If you, if you have jerseys that you're sick of looking at, just make them look as much like the Steelers as possible.

Right.

And then you'll be like, oh, maybe our defense is good now.

Yeah, they kind of pop for a night game. And I will give the Dolphins credit, they are fighting for that. I had them as my bad vibes team. Their vibes are okay because they, they fought hard against the Bills. They beat the Jets. Tyree Kill goes out. He's going to be out for the year and maybe even longer. He was maybe happy. That was weird.

Yeah. I mean, when I first saw it, I was like, yeah, he does look like he's pumped to not be playing for the Dolphins anymore.

Yeah.

But then I thought more about it and he like dislocated his knee, tore everything. Probably a lot of weird chemicals and emotions going through his brain at that time. He, that was actually him, I think, being a good teammate.

Yeah.

He was like trying to pump his boys up. Mike McDaniel after the game said that he, that Tyreek said, like, go out there and get this win for me. Which if my knee got destroyed like that, I would, I would be like, fuck all you guys.

Yeah. Yeah.

The. Is Tyreek Hill a better football player with one leg than person?

Yeah.

Probably right. It was funny. I was, I was noticing, yes. When he got hurt. You know when a guy gets really badly hurt in a primetime game and there's A lot of, oh, man, I feel so bad for him. Oh, that's so brutal. It was more just, damn, that leg looked bad.

Yeah.

That was kind of all. It wasn't like, oh, man, poor Tyree. It was just that, that was a nasty injury.

I think.

Statement of fact.

What I'm concerned about, he needs to get back in time for the Olympics.

Yeah.

Because he's going to be a problem in flag football.

And it is, he is a fun player to watch. So it is a bummer in that respect. But yeah, the, the Dolphins, they're fighting.

They were back on their swaggy too. They had, they had to do the behind the back right handed pass.

Yep.

Tool might be right handed.

Yeah.

That was my takeaway from that because that was, that was a sick pass.

Why were we like, can we just enjoy the. Because that happened and it was only a six yard gain. Everyone's like, all that for a six yard gain. Come on, it's fun. That was a cool play. Mike McDaniel's got a little swag back. He's. He's emptying the keys, going down with a fight. It's, it's. You don't want to see teams quit in September and the Dolphins haven't quit.

There was a funny moment after the game. I've, I've seen all the clips from pretty much any coach that wins in the NFL. Their locker room speech goes viral after the fact because they're all like, really, really happy that they won an NFL game. And then they showed Mike McDaniel last night after the game. He's like, I think in this room, it's, we got a, it's a better feeling today than we've had this, this year before. Before today. Huh? And everybody was like, yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And they have the Panthers next, so watch out.

Watch out for the Dolphins. Yeah.

The Dolphins get hot to 2 and 3. The other side, the jets memes, that was a tough watch.

It was a tough watch. The game was pretty much over after the first drive.

Yeah.

You thought they were going to do man football the entire game. And then they just fumbled in. The game was over.

I did, I was enthused watching that first drive up until Braylon Allen's fumble where I was like, oh, the jets have figured out they're just going to be a service academy.

Yeah.

And they're just going to run it down their throat.

Yeah. And then the, the wheels just fell off from there.

I think Orlovsky said at the time, like, I just wouldn't throw the ball. If I was the Jets, I would keep doing that. And then the jets proceeded to passed the ball in like three or the next four plays and it didn't go well.

Yeah, they were averaging eight yards per carry in the first half.

And, and, and Justin Field's stat line isn't that bad. But everyone who watched the game, no.

He, he didn't play that bad. The, the worst thing he did was just the pre snap penalties and then it was just a million of them and then it just killed him in.

The end and it felt like he didn't throw the ball until they were down a lot. And not that it was garbage time because they ended up losing only by six. But that first half is like they, they're not even going to try to throw. No.

And I didn't understand that at all. Yeah, if, if your career is on the line, I don't know why you're just not non stop throwing it. Throw a million interceptions, who gives a fuck?

I agree with Aaron Glenn or Justin Fields.

Justin Fields.

Justin Fields.

Yeah.

I mean Garrett Wilson is awesome. He should have gotten the first touchdown with the opi. Then he got another one. That was awesome. Breeze hall kind of put it perfectly. He said team shoot themselves in the foot. Then we come back and shoot ourselves in the head. Yeah, I wonder if he's talking about the. There was a fair catch punt at the two yard line. Rare to see.

It was exciting. It was exciting because it was one of those did they just do that moments right afterwards like I can't believe that it has to be a pretty bad fuck up around the goal line to make Dan Orlovsky say this guy has no idea where he's on the field. Yeah, like that's, that's new ground that we're breaking.

Memes.

Where.

Where are we at overall? Can I, can I share some of the, the, the, the things I love your two year plan. Memes has a two year plan. Do you guys want to hear memes? Two year plan?

Yeah, sure.

It's a really good two year plan.

Am I saying the two year plan or you say.

No, you say, you say the two year plan.

So the two year plan going into last night's game, if they won, which they didn't.

Wait, your entire two year long term plan was based on the outcome of one game?

That's the ultimate gateway.

Yeah, it was the, it was the ultimate gateway game.

All right.

But after last night's game, I don't think they're going to win a game. I Think they're going to go.

I think they're going to win again.

They're going to win.

They're going to win a game.

That team did not look like they could win a game.

Okay.

But this year you're going to be picking top five, probably top three. Okay, next year's schedule is insanely hard. So you're punting on next year. So you draft all defense next year.

Wait, how do you know next year's schedule is going to be insanely hard?

They have your next opponents for like the next three years.

But you guys are gonna.

If you're as bad as you say that you're going to be, you're going to have a last place schedule.

No, but you still have to play the NFC north and you AFC West.

Yeah, but you don't know who's going to be good. You know, injuries, trades.

Okay.

Okay, so continue with your two year play.

So you draft all defense this year, then the next year you draft a quarterback.

So every pick on defense, every pick.

On defense, the defense is historically bad.

So if you're picking top three, and let's just say, I don't know, Arch.

Manning, Not Arch now, Dante Moore.

Pass. Okay, now, now if they fall to the second round, I just wouldn't waste another first round pick on a quarterback.

Yeah.

Okay, so all defense this year, then all offense.

But like you have the offensive line in place, you have Garrett Wilson, you need wide receiver, two and three.

Yeah.

Mason Taylor looked good last night.

So also, by the way, what a flexible for Jason Taylor to go to a football game in his gold jacket. Yeah, that was a nice move. And people are just way too fast to try to find their next Coldplay moment. It was his wife.

It's his wife.

His wife was sitting on his lap. Right, but we're so. The Internet is so hungry to ruin someone's life. They're like, oh, my God, Jason Taylor. All right, so two year plan. All defense, then all offense, then win.

Yeah. Trade, trade anybody worth anything. I feel bad for guys like Quinn and Williams. Been on the team forever and they just can't figure it out.

Yeah, the.

Would you trade? You would not trade.

Garrett Wilson would not trade.

He's a stud.

Would you trade Breeze Hall?

I don't want to, but I think you have to.

Okay. What about coach?

I'm rooting for him.

Okay, that's a good answer. Good answer, good answer.

So last week, last week you said you wanted him fired if you gave up 28 points to the Bucks. Now you're rooting for him.

Well, no, I've always been rooting for.

No, that's. That's the. They're just kids tweet.

Yeah.

When you say I'm rooting for him, the.

The.

The parentheses him fired. He's a joke.

Yeah.

And we have an. We have an irrational owner who's just. Will fire him at any point in time.

That is true. You always have to be on the lookout for that. Okay, if you woke up tomorrow morning, Aaron Glenn was fired. What's your initial reaction?

Disappointed.

Okay.

Because, like, he. I saw a tweet today that Robert Salah defense his first year was also historically bad.

Okay.

So it does take time to get that. That figured out. But I just. I don't know. It's just been 15 years of shit.

It would be. It would be absurd to fire him right now.

It'd be absurd.

Absurd. You can't even entertain those thoughts. You can't put that into the universe.

I was on a text chain with memes last night. Got dark, and rightfully so. Can I. Can I share one thing that I made me chuckle a little, but it also, like, tells you exactly where jets fans are.

Trust broken.

Trust.

All right, I'm not going to say meme said it. I'm going to say someone else.

We have a group chat.

It's literally called the trust.

Big Cat and two. Two other Jeff fans that work here.

All right, this was said. I'm not saying who said it, but it did make me chuckle a little because it's like, this is how NFL fans work. Someone said, I have one more rebuild in me, and then I'm just going to be a casual fan. And I was like, that's. That's the most like. Like, that's the darkest thought being like, I'm giving you one more chance to rebuild this team, knowing full well that that's not going to happen. You're going to still live and die with the Jets. Not gonna say who said this, but I said that it was very funny. I laughed because I was just like. Like, just being like, got one more. Like, you could do this one more time. Jets, you could rebuild one more time.

Yeah, but by then that'll be like year 18 of a playoff drought.

Right.

How many more rebuilds could you do?

That's the thing about the NFL is right when you're sick of rebuilds, your owner will hire some coach that'll make you insanely excited.

Yeah.

Yeah. But then the screenshots come out of every single past coach just doing that same dumb face on the sideline being like, what did I sign up for?

Yeah, yeah, I have a spin zone for you memes. I share this on Wake Up Barstool. So I was looking at it last night. If the history of the entire planet. So earth was a 24 hour day. Human beings didn't arrive on Earth. Didn't. Human beings weren't human beings until. So it's 24 hours. Human beings weren't human beings until 11, 58 and 43 seconds. Do you understand that?

No, but continue.

So all of Earth, I'm saying the whole history of Earth, human beings have only been around for that small part a minute and whatever is 17 seconds the last very piece. That's how long Earth has been around. Your life, if you live to a hundred is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a second. In this 24 hour day. It all doesn't matter.

Dude.

It's like there's been so much that's happened on. On planet Earth and there's going to be so much that happens. Who cares? Think of how small we are.

That's a good point.

But yeah, we're nothing.

We're all not in a football game.

I know, but we're all nothing. I'm just trying to think big picture here. We're all nothing. Does that.

Do you.

Do you understand how small that is? A minute and set. Human beings showed up a minute and 17 seconds left in the 24 hour day. That's how much history has happened before that. It's crazy.

That is crazy. It's a euphoria of winning a football game.

I agree. I agree.

It's also hard to squeeze that many penalty flags into a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a second.

So many penalty.

It's all.

It's all penalties.

Yeah.

And didn't. Didn't your coach say like he. Didn't he hire some refs this off season?

Yeah, he said, he said we're gonna. We're gonna figure this out. Yeah, he said we're gonna put a stop to this.

I think he had refs at like every single practice because he's. He said no more being the most penalized team that stops now.

Yeah. And there could be some residuals of not having a coach for however long.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's.

Yeah, they didn't have a coach since week five. It's a lot of the same guys. They probably should have cut or traded all the guys from that defense. Just. You come from Dan Campbell. You gotta flush the turds. Yeah, that's his motto.

Yeah. You gotta flush the guys on the.

Team, they played an entire season basically without a coach, and then all of a sudden, they have a coach now. That's got to be weird for them, too. It's like, hey, I thought. I thought we were free range football players.

Yeah.

You let us just. Yeah, I thought we were like, you know, cats that are left alone for the weekend where you just leave the food out. We just hang out.

Yeah.

It's the Montessori football.

Right.

And now all of a sudden, we have to have a teacher that we call teacher.

Yeah, it's. Yeah.

You didn't tell us there were rules.

We used to not have homework.

Yeah.

Class used to be outside.

This is. Yeah, it's Will Ferrell and stepbrothers being like, this house is a prison.

Yeah.

You don't let me watch Cops anymore. What the. Aaron Glenn.

Now the other side of it, it was. It was. It was a terrible officiated game.

It was.

There was penalties. They just weren't calling on the Dolphins.

The. The.

The late hit on Justin Fields in like. I think it was the third or fourth quarter was egregious. It was like he slid and then someone just jumped on him.

Yeah, there was one with. I think that was Jeremy Ruckert. Oh, they just. They jumped on him five seconds after. And then there was a penalty on the jets for a hold as Joe Tippmann's helmet was getting ripped off. Like a clear. Hands to the face. Like, you can't. You can't. Like they lost the game.

Yeah.

But you can complain about the refs.

Yeah.

Definitely was a terrible officiated game.

That offensive pass interference was dog. That was bad. That happens every single play in the NFL.

Where are you at with Justin Fields? Just let him just, just, Just fuck it, dude. Who cares? Just fucking run around and throw it like it's not gonna work. But you just might as well make fun football. I mean, the run was fun. The run was fun.

If Justin Fields had James his brain, it would be like the greatest watch.

Of all time where he just. He has no.

Just let it fly.

Yeah.

Right.

He.

He just. He just fucking grip it and rip it.

Yeah.

Otherwise, like, you're gonna be a career backup. Just let it fly.

And not a bad backup to have. He's just not a starter. Really.

I would agree with that.

Yeah.

I think he'd be a great backup.

Yeah.

I'd rather watch a long career because, like, you can't.

You can't really prepare for Justin Fields. The good Stuff that he does.

Yeah.

Also, it's kind of that Darren Waller just beats you guys, right? Like that was.

He.

He had 12 games with the. With the Giants and scored one touchdown. He had one game with the Dolphins and scored two touchdowns back.

He looked good.

Yeah, he did look good.

He did look good. All right, I'm sorry, Memes.

It's okay.

Yeah.

I mean, there's a little peace in knowing that. It's just. It is what it is, right? This season, at least.

Yeah, but this is like the easiest schedule they've ever had.

Yeah.

You will win some games.

Let's find your win.

You.

I mean, I'm looking at it right way. Is that their schedule right there?

Yeah.

They have the Cowboys. That's a coin flip. Broncos probably a loss. Panthers is a coin flip. Bengals is a coin flip flip. You can beat the Patriots.

They just got to get the penalties figured out.

Yeah.

And the Saints, Braylon Allen going out was awesome.

You might. You guys might. You guys might make the playoffs. I'm looking at the schedule. Stop, stop.

Don't do that.

Don't do this. Don't do this.

I have to win a game.

I think we finally got his expectations where they need to be if they win. Trying to bring him back.

No, because I don't want him to get. Sucks giving. I've been here before. It sucks on in September being like seasons already.

It's a fucked up situation for Memes because best case scenario for him is actually now his worst case scenario. Because I think your best case scenario is you end with six wins, seven wins. Very best case scenario, right?

Yeah, that's best case scenario. But worst case scenario is 0.17. Then you have to fire everybody.

Yeah, but if you end with like seven wins, that's actually the worst case scenario.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So that's. That's a bad place to be, Hank.

You want to hop in here and. And pop up memes a little?

No, they. They have no shot of making the playoffs.

I'm.

I'm.

You guys are being mean.

No, we're not. We're trying to. We're trying to pump them up a little bit.

I'm realistic.

I tell you, I. The playoff thing was wrong, but I think they're going to win some games. I don't think they're going to rebuild.

You don't want to win games.

No.

Yeah, I know, but I. I do think they're not as bad.

All right, fine.

They're going to lose every game.

Yeah. All right.

I want to win A game?

Yeah.

You're going to win a game. I. I will. I wish I could bet it right now. It's probably terrible odds. The jets will absolutely win a game this year.

Yeah.

Flip it. Put it out there. I'll get a tattoo. If they don't win a game. Jets are going to get a tattoo memes. If they don't win a game.

Yeah.

All right. Will you get a tattoo you match?

Yeah. Because they're going to get. They're going to win four games.

Yeah, four games. I'm not going to say four, but they will win a game.

Four.

All right.

Any. Any other cleanup stuff. We're going to do a lot of college football talk with Brandon Walker. Some really good narrative talk coming off of a big weekend of college football. Anything else that we missed on Sunday, I would say watching back because we do record the show on Sundays during Sunday football. Very weird clock management by the Packers.

Yeah.

That final drive really strange. Also, Dak Prescott looked great. Yeah, he looked really good.

They.

They somehow. Is CD Lamb the problem? I don't know.

Right.

CD Lamb was like George Pickens biggest fan during the game.

I know, I know.

Good vibes on the sideline.

Yeah.

The Cowboys are in that camp of like, very fun, fun watch. The Cowboys should be in every like Sunday or Sunday Night Football or Monday football game because they don't play defense and score.

So we're going to talk about with. With Brandon Walker in a little bit, but I was thinking more about the Penn State game. Penn State, Oregon. Would we be thinking completely differently about Penn State if their offense was great and their defense sucked? Yes, I think we would.

Right.

It'd be like a completely. Because their defense, looking back on it, their defense is good, Max.

Right? Yeah.

But it's the same thing.

Right?

That's it. That's the difference is that if the offense was really good and the defense was slacking, you. You can convince yourself being like, oh, we just got to get that defense back to where it was.

Right.

When you. When it's the same exact thing as. As it always has been, it's hard to get that hope.

If you have. If you have a bad. If the Penn State had a bad defense, you can re. Reasonably tell yourself, well, the standard has always been a good defense. We'll get back there.

Yeah, exactly.

With a bad offense. That's been the standard. And what's. What's going to change?

If you guys lost the game 40 to 47, you'd be like, Penn State, we're right in the thick of it.

I don't know.

That's kind of what happened in the Big Ten championship though last year.

So it's like they might have broken through though.

But you also thought last year, like, yeah, we could do it.

Hank shaking his head, no way they broke through.

They should have went for two.

They should have gone for two. There would have been at least a, a little finality to it where it's like, all right, you lose going for two, man. They were right there. It's just the way that the interception went, man.

If, yeah, if you lose going for two, you, James Franklin, he at least gets some credit for having some balls.

That throw. I don't know how you make that throw. There was no recipe to success for, for that throw.

I, I want to call my shot with Drew Aller right now.

Okay, what are you going to say?

That he's a bust insurance?

No, I, I think this man is going to have a Chase Daniel type career as a backup quarterback. Oh, I think, I think this guy is grown in a lab to be a journeyman backup, very Successful career millionaire, top.001% of quarterback to ever play the game of football but never be the guys to start. But a great backup.

But the only problem with that is thinking more like Jake from the only problem with that though PFT is he's going to get like a.

Or Christian Ackenberg.

Christian Ackerber. Yeah, he's going to get like a real shot to, to start.

Yeah, he will.

If he's really bad at that start. Where in the NFL? No, I, I think, no, I think draft scouts will like fall in love with the traits.

The jets will take them, take them.

In the second round.

Hank. It is the traits. Max. That was mean in the second round. It was me.

You would get excited for Drew Aller.

In the second round. You made your point when you said Christian Hackenberg. You didn't have to drive it home.

Well, that's, that was my point.

He's so think he's a good guy. Yeah, He's a, he's a 65 quarterback who has a big arm. The NFL will always give a guy like that a shot.

Yeah, I guess he's bad.

They'll always give him a shot.

Yes. This man is going to be a 15 year backup.

That one throw was good.

I was thinking about this. I was thinking about this. Do you think the NFL quarterbacking would be better if we made a rule where every college quarterback has to play at least four years of college football?

That's a one position Just quarterbacks, where.

It'S like we just gotta, we want to make sure, we want to really make sure there's an exclusive club to be an NFL quarterback. It's 32, 32 spots. We're not going to just let anyone.

In there unless you win a Heisman.

Because if he had gone last year, he would have.

I like, gone. I like that Hank Heisman gets you out. You can unlock your, your potential Heisman or national championship.

You're free to go.

Yeah.

Everything else. I like that a lot.

I still think the biggest problem with Penn State right now is they can't run the football. And like this whole team is predicated on being able to run the football. And for some reason Nick Singleton is.

He was.

He's supposed to go down as one of the best running backs in Penn State history and he's running for like 2 yards a carry this year. When he, when he's been so good his entire career, it makes no sense. He's got to get going for Penn State's offense to do anything.

Yeah.

What was it? Was that real? The screenshot of the, of him snapchatting, Was that real?

I don't know.

It's.

It's that.

It's hard to know.

I respect, I think everything is real.

Also respect his game.

Drew Aller. Yeah, I, it was hilarious.

Yeah. I mean if you're, if you're a Big ten, if you're a power four quarterback on a big time campus, just like snapping a girl and being like, want to come over and suck me off. I think that probably works.

That's a. He's a direct communicator.

Yeah.

This is a guy that's in charge of the offense.

It was a question.

Simple question.

Yeah.

It's not like simple question.

He's running the spread.

He's.

He's.

He was literally asking for consent.

Yeah.

Right.

Like, do you want to come suck me off?

I don't know. Again, we don't know. We don't know if that was him or not.

No, we have no idea. We have no idea. And. But if it. I'm saying more if there's a hypothetical, if that is how quarterbacks. All quarterbacks, not just Drew out. All quarterbacks in power four programs are acting. I have the question is, is fair. Did you just be like, hey, Practice ends at 5. Do you want to come suck me off?

Off.

Who wants to sex my tumbo?

Yeah, exactly.

I also think that saying it might not be him because who says like practice ends at five? Yeah, that's Like a little on the nose to be like, yeah, I'm a quarterback.

Yeah. It's probably most likely fake.

My practice is over.

And it's also, I'm always skeptical of one of these screenshots coming out right after a performance where everyone's mad at him because it feels like a pile on effect. Like, oh, I can get free, free publicity by making this up. So I'm gonna say fake. Snopes fake. But Snopes, the thing that used to do the fake thing.

Yeah, but would be. But would be funny if true.

If. If true.

Funny. Well played. But pmt, Snopes rules. Fake.

So did you see the other news in college sports? I have one.

Did you guys talk with Brandon about Dan Lanning? So happy for Josh Allen.

Yes.

Not in. Not in those words.

Yeah.

Dan Lanning is a fired up dude.

Yeah.

Very, very fired up. He's a fucking good coach.

Very fired up.

Very fired up.

Really fired up.

Yeah.

Incredibly fired up. Well, it's a big time win.

Jaw like Bill Cower.

Yeah. Yeah.

Fired up.

That guy grinds.

Yes.

Big time.

He snuffed out the competition.

He did.

Big time.

I thought he did a great. Like their offense threw eight balls that were fantastic. At least eight perfect balls.

Yeah.

Dan Lennox is a great coach.

They got a nose for the goal line.

Yeah.

What, what, what was the other thing you were saying?

Just the, the update about the rules that they're going to put in place for nil.

Oh.

In Congress.

Okay.

So they're, they're debating it right now and some of the rules have leaked out a little bit. They're going to allow college football teams to wear sponsorship patches.

Okay.

On the jerseys.

Okay.

Which would be very interesting to see.

What.

Okay.

What are you. I got one.

I'm thinking about what max school will. Will we pay for to have PMT.

On it, Kent State or Toledo?

Toledo.

Yeah.

I think it has to be Toledo.

It has to probably be Toledo. That would rock because I don't know how much that would go for, but.

We could probably, I think probably like a million.

What were you gonna say?

Grambling State tramp stamp branding the bottom of the jersey.

I love that.

Yeah.

What do you think? Hey, Memes, what do you think about Georgia Allstate? The General.

Yeah.

Maybe just emoji of sirens.

Yeah.

Miami should do Coke.

Maybe. Maybe, maybe Georgia's just a speed limit.

Yeah.

Actually, Oregon, Dan Lanning sponsored by Coke.

Yeah.

There was another rule that says that. Yeah. The conference can't prohibit jersey patches in any sport as long as they preserve roster spots, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There's another rule that says that if you get drafted in the NFL, you can say, actually, no, I'd rather not play for that team. I'll go back to college.

Oh, the Florio rule.

So, yeah, you can, you can turn down a draft spot. I don't think it's, it hasn't been signed into law yet, but this is the bill that is currently making its way through Congress.

I, I do think that will be used. I don't think it would be used in high profile, like first round stuff.

Right.

I definitely think it would be used in like a late, like, because you know how there's the, if an agent.

Tells a guy, hey, I think I put a, like second, third round grade on you. That's what I'm hearing.

Yeah.

And they get picked in the last round.

Right.

I could definitely see them saying, no, I'll go back to school.

And there's some guys who like in the seventh, who get drafted in the seventh round actually wish they didn't get drafted because they don't get to pick where they to go. So if you get drafted seventh round, you're like, fuck it, I'll go back to school and make money.

Right.

The worst spot to get drafted is. It's not Mr. Irrelevant because at least you get the parade and you get sponsorships and everyone talks about you. The guy before Mr. Irrelevant.

Yeah.

Is the new Mr. Irrelevant. Yes. Because he has to go to one training camp and can't pick where. Where he wants to try out.

Maybe we should sponsor. That's that draft selection.

Mr. Irrelevanter.

Yeah. Yeah, I like that.

Yeah, that's good.

Okay, do we have anything else or should you. Hot seat, Cool Throne. Let's do some hot seat.

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My hot seat is. I mean, it's basically just all. It's, it's a lot of people with. The NBA media day was yesterday. Kawhi had some weird answers. He got asked about, you know, the investigation. Everything was Steve Ballmer. Pablo Torre also came out with another updated podcast this week about more suspicious funds and like all these weird backdoor sponsorships where there's no deliverables, people getting paid to do nothing. And Kawhi's answer was just like, it's a conspiracy.

It's click.

It never happened. It's a clickbait conspiracy.

And credit to Ramona Shelbourn because she just like kept asking the follow up questions. At one point she asked him, what's one example of something that you did for the sponsorship? And he was just like, I mean, there's, there's a lot of stuff, but I'm not going to get into details because it's a lot of conspiracies out there about it. And she's like, okay, but like one thing that you did to earn the $49 million or whatever, he's like, you know, there's just a lot of people talking and they're going to get their clicks. I'm just here to play basketball. He, I, I think I need to use the word allegedly here, but he's allegedly very, very guilty of everything that Pablo Torres accused me. And I, I don't, I don't really blame Kawhi. No, he, he wants to get paid money.

Yeah.

I don't blame Palmer.

And if somebody offers, listen, the Clippers have offered no show jobs in the past to James Harden. Yeah, but this is, it's an, it's more unfair in terms of the competitive balance if your team isn't doing this.

This is so, so Pablo seems like they're gonna cover. Ma, is gonna cover it up because I think there's a lot of team.

Right. So Pablo's investigation is great. And I Believe, like, all the work he's done. But I also just keep having the feeling of, I wish my owner did that.

Yeah.

Like, I think most fans have that. Like, it's not, how could the Clippers do it? It's more like, hey, Jerry Reinserv, can you start paying people off under the know?

Yeah.

And then the NBA can figure. You're right. NBA does feel like the Clippers should. I think I said this, like, when this first came out. The Clippers are going about this the wrong way. Like, Ballmer going and defending himself. Kawhi saying. Clickbait. What the Clippers should do is just burn the whole fucking thing down. Just be like, this team, this team, this team, they all did it. To just fucking take everyone down with you. Because they're not going to be able to suspend everyone, Right?

Yep.

I also like the fact that both Ballmer and Kawhi Leonard are going the. They actually conned me route.

Yeah.

Kawhi's like, they owe me money.

I'm the victim.

I don't know.

They're.

They're fraud. So I listen, they. I'm a victim just like anybody else.

In this case, what was the most shocking. Oh, that guy's on that team now.

Kevin Durant.

Kevin Durant.

Yeah.

I was gonna say Chris Tops.

Yeah.

Didn't realize he was on the Hawks.

Yeah, I forgot about that.

Also, Chris Paul just looking like Gilly. So old. Like, the most washed anyone's ever looked is Chris Paul. I think it's because he shaved his head fully. Yeah. That was a shocking one.

Kevin Love.

Kevin Love on the Jazz.

Whoa.

That's weird.

He said they're gonna call Monk.

Yeah. Whoa.

Warriors.

Sad.

LeBron saying this may be his last media day.

Oh, of course. Wow. Kevin Love on the Jazz.

LeBron's definitely starting. Got a little gray ghoster tag in him.

LeBron starting another league.

Yeah. Okay.

I mean, the Saudi, that's. I was going to talk about a cool throne, but the EA Sports sold for $55 billion.

What happened there?

They sold for $55 billion.

To whom?

To the PIF and, like, Jared. Jared Kushner Company.

Yeah.

It's.

Yeah.

Saudi Arabia now. Now owns EA sports and 55 billion. They're taking it private so they can do whatever they want with it.

Let me hold the bill.

So now there's going to be, like, it. They are just completely sports watching everything.

Yeah.

They're doing, like, unbelievable.

They're trying to find every way to reach anyone under the age of 40 in America and then make Them think that Saudi Arabia is a cool place.

Really cool guys, chill people.

Yeah. What Hank?

55 billion.

Yeah. Yeah.

Paid a premium.

Who is there? Who owns EA Sports, who did own esports?

I'm not sure.

One guy who just made off with like 20 bill.

I'm not sure who actually sold it.

There's a publicly traded company since 1990.

But I don't know who the CEO was.

The largest all cash sponsored private investment in history.

Yeah. So they're taking it completely private. Going to be off the stock market.

That's crazy.

And yeah, Saudi, they just have enough money and they're smart because they know that the fossil fuels that they sell, that's not going to last forever. There's only so many dead dinosaurs that they, they can dig up. So they're trying to diversify all their funds and make sure that they're going to be rich as for the next hundred years as opposed to just the next 50 years. And there's not a lot that we can do about it.

No.

Because if they offer somebody a billion, a million dollars to do a 30 minute stand up set, they're gonna do the 30 minute stand up set.

What?

How much for one off pod?

We've already said we would do. We will do this pod. Just personally do this pod for $100 million.

$100 million is my price for everything.

We'll take it offline and we'll just do the pod one.

We'll just more than that.

No $100 million. I will do anything.

You think we got to do more than that. I will be a very shade for it.

I'll be a very principled man when it comes to Saudi Arabia. I turned down some live money.

200 million, 300 million. Stop me where 55 billion.

I think we could get at least.

A Billy, you think we get a billion for barn my take? I don't think so. But if they want to, I mean.

What the Kelsey brothers get like 200 million?

I don't know. Okay, well hit us up. Hit our line. Although the Saudis might be mad at.

Me, I, I just know you us.

You us.

I just know that no matter how much money they paid me, at some point I would, I would make a joke about a journalist and then, and then they'd be like okay, well now you have to. We got to cut your throat out. Yeah, but the money, but the money.

You always get a new throat.

I mean they could do, they could have their public beheading guy chop your pinky off.

Done. Oh that 100 mil. That's fair. Pinky for 100 mil. Okay. Your cool turn also.

Lonzo ball said that was my cool turn. Okay.

No, no, you can do it.

He just said he didn't know Cleveland had water, which. Relatable.

Very funny.

I like that he didn't know it had water.

Yeah.

I think he means a lake, but.

Yeah.

Got it. Okay.

Yeah, I think he knew they had water, but he said he was walking around and he. He saw There's a big lake right there.

Yeah, yeah, I'm on his side on that.

I remember the first time we went to Wisconsin, and we were, like, looking at the lake, and I was like, madison?

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

South.

The ocean.

I drove through Cleveland once, and I, like, spent the night there, driving from the east coast to Chicago, and I, like, stayed on, like, a hotel on the lake, and I was like this. I. Cleveland's a lot nicer than people say.

Like, it looks.

It looks nice.

Great Lakes are great.

Yeah. Yeah.

My cool throne is New York baseball teams inexplicably keeping their manager after bad year.

Oh, why would happen.

The Mets are sticking with their guy Carlos Mendoza.

Okay, memes, not to pile on, but what'd you think about Steve Cohen tweeting like. Sorry, I.

It's fine. I. The thing I don't like is that graphic.

Which one?

Thank you, fans.

Oh, that was.

Yeah, yeah.

Like, come on. You got to know your market. Like, the thank you, fans is something that you can. You can put out in, like, Kansas City or, you know, Colorado, and there's.

A bunch of fans cheering.

You can't do that for New Yorkers. They're gonna. They're gonna freak out, which rightfully so. Okay, good job. Pft.

Hank took two of mine.

Yeah.

Good job, Hank. So I'm just gonna do my cool throne.

Okay.

Cool throne is ice cream.

Sure.

Because Cincinnati is Raiders ice cream. It came out with Cincinnati chili flavored ice cream. And I'm gonna try to get them to send some soft serve.

Nope, we're not putting that in the machine. Yeah, no, we're not.

I think.

I think not putting that in the machine. I think we're not putting that.

If the Reds win. If the Reds win the World Series, it goes in the softer.

That's fair.

That's fair.

Okay.

That's fair.

And if they don't win the World Series, you got to put chili. You got to boof. Chili.

You have to make your own chili ice cream.

You got to put it up your butt.

I got a butt.

Funnel.

Butt. Funnel.

Funnel chili.

I Actually think. I think that chili might not be the worst thing to butt funnel, I guess.

Done. Yeah.

Poison.

If you had to choose. If you had to choose a food, I think that chili is top three for what you'd have to butt funnel.

Yeah.

I mean, I can see. I can see where you're coming on that. It'd be so hot.

Yeah, but.

Well, no, I wouldn't have.

I wouldn't, like, heated up before.

You'Re.

Gonna eat Chili's almost cold chili.

Hang on.

Yeah, no, I think you heated up to 98.6 degrees body temperature and the consistency of it. It's like that mashed potatoes. Nah, probably that would. That would get stuck.

Heating it up to 98.6. That's hot.

That's body temperature.

Yeah, but that would be hot.

I think you would.

It would be hot to touch.

No, I think you wouldn't even feel it.

No, definitely not. What are you talking about? No.

Yeah.

Now that I'm thinking 98.6 degrees, if you have a cup of water, that's 98.6 degrees, that's hot water.

That would be the exact same sensation as, like, actually getting in your body.

Yes, that's a hot.

Let's eat this up to skin temperature so it feels nice.

Yeah.

Think about when it's 98 degrees out. You're not like, oh, this is the perfect temperature.

Yeah.

No, I think, like, probably, what, upper 70s when you get in the ocean.

Yeah.

Caribbean.

98 degrees, getting in the ocean, it's like. It's kind of hot.

Yeah. Yeah. All right.

But, yeah, I'm excited about playoff baseball. The Reds, they got a tough task.

Yeah.

Going to la.

Yeah. All right.

My hot seat is Rory. Rory's getting kind of dragged a little bit because of. He had some comments about the fans, and then obviously he was chirping the Bryson DeChambeau. That whole video that went out. Also, he tried to get a fan kicked out. The fan did use a slur. Where do you guys stand on Rory? Was he soft? Because it is a little bit. There's a lot of. The fans were brutal. The fans were bad. I feel like you can't. You can't be like, the fans are bad, but also be screaming fuck off to the fans.

Right.

Well, did they. I think.

I mean, when they're going to, like, wife and personal agreed on that. I think you can be like, off and then also be like, they were bad. Yeah, I don't. I don't think.

But then do you think there's anything to be said about him, like, covering up Bryson's name and, like.

No, I think that's what we like, isn't it?

I like it. But I'm saying he also was like, you guys were. Went too far. And then he's kind of gloating. Going too far.

I think that Bryson.

The Bryson thing is separate. The Bryson was like, chirping them before the tournament, being like, I hope we play yada, yada, yada.

Yeah.

So him going up like, that's. Bryson took not shots, but was like, you know, coming at him a little bit before the Ryder Cup. So it was like a fair. Especially with the pioneer stuff. It's like a fair. I think that was just like, he happened to be standing over him. Was like, oh, look at this.

Okay.

I think that you can say, off.

To the victors go the spoils. I think it's like, yeah, no, but.

I agree with that 100%. But he also was, like, very sanctimonious of, like, this is to. Everyone went too far.

You can. Did, though. You can fight fire with fire, and, yeah, you can fire back at them with the same things that they hit you with, but if someone hits you with a slur, you can't go back at them.

Right.

Like, the only thing that you can do is be like, hey, that guy's saying slurs. Yeah, the white was an anti Irish slur.

No, it was an anti. It was a pro English cigarette sleep.

Got it?

Yeah, got it. Okay. And. Yeah, so Rory probably can't.

No.

Or he couldn't just be like, I'm talking about.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, get. I'm sick of all the cigarette smoke. Get all these cigarettes out of here.

I'm not the biggest Rory fan, but, yeah, I mean, he. He does get to celebrate anyone he wants.

Yeah.

He also had the best year of all time. It's, like, tough to. You know.

Well, Scotty, I would take.

I think I'd take Rory's year.

You would what?

Scotty won everything.

We're on the Masters. The players won at Pebble.

What did Scotty win?

But he hit the career grand Slam, too.

That's.

Yeah, that's. And he won an away Ryder cup, which, like.

Okay. I don't really count the Ryder cup.

As anything because we lost exhibition.

I will say. So my cool throne is.

Or.

Sorry, this actually my. I've double hot seat. It's me. And I need your help, Hank, because I did tweet out on Monday morning, it was hard for me to hate the European team because I saw the clip of Them in the bus when they were doing the. The song.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Europe's on fire.

USA is terrified.

Europe's on fire.

USA is terrified.

They're so good a chance. I love Tommy Fleetwood. I don't think I have. It goes back to what we were saying on Sunday. Like, the European team feels like they're just like, best friends, and Team USA never has that vibe. And. I don't know. I just. I can't hate them that much.

You know? What sucked is the fact that we were. We were favored going into this Ryder Cup. I think it'd be way easier to be like. It's always easy to root for the U.S. if they're underdogs.

Yeah. Right.

But the U.S. yeah, but underdogs. But it makes people root. Like, we love an underdog story.

If.

Yeah.

If Europe. And they probably should have been favored going to this Ryder cup if they were favored. I think everybody had been like, wait, it would be way easier to get behind the US Guys, even the ones you don't really like that much.

They were just favored because everyone wants to bet on the U.S. right.

No, it's home. Home teams don't lose at home.

Yeah.

Except for us.

Yeah. Yeah.

Europe's on fire.

USA is terrified. Europe's on fire.

USA is terrible.

Who wrote that song?

It's Freed from Desire by. I'm ashamed to say that I did listen to it. I mean, it's just when. Oh, that.

That song is. I mean, it's.

It's like when you have an awesome song and everyone's partying and on a bus, and the vibes are the highest they could possibly be. It's really hard. Free from Desire by Gala.

Who gets the Ryder Cup? Do they share it? Do they pass it around?

I don't know.

They also do.

You get a day with it.

Happy birthday to Frankie. Frankie Fleetwood. That was awesome. I did not see the whole fucking team.

Yeah.

Singing Happy Birthday to him. All right, here, here. I'll come back with one thing.

They all live in America.

That. That and we. It's Sepstraka. That's not fair. You have a Southern accent.

Yeah, he's a Georgia.

I heard him talk. I was just like, this is crazy.

He's a Georgia guy. Although I. I like what his friends said about him, because he grew up saying he was 50% Austrian, 50% American. Like, no, you're 100% Austrian, and you're 100% American.

Yeah, I guess. The name. The name. I can't even get back. I Can't even look at the sepshaka name.

Even looks like an American.

Yeah.

He's a big boy.

Yeah.

But, yeah, I don't. I can't. Do you agree with me, Hank? Like, it's hard to hate the European team.

Yeah.

Who's hateable?

I think you can hate Rory.

I. Yeah, I don't like Rory. But the rest of the team, it's like, I don't really have an opinion. I love Tommy Fleetwood.

I like a lot of those.

And I like Justin Rose.

I like Hat.

Like, Justin Rose walking in that pot was the most badass thing ever.

That was disgusting.

Yeah.

Hatton Lowry. Those guys are just.

They're good.

Yeah.

John Rom.

John Rom. I like John Rom. Damn it, Patrick.

Aw.

Current guest.

It just feels like we're. We're meant to hate these guys. And it's like, I don't. It's not. It's not like, usa, Canada, when we play in, like, the Olympics in hockey, where it's like, I'm gonna. I. I really, you know, feel some kind of way. I don't know.

It's just.

I guess I gotta. I gotta find a way to get some hate up for the golfers.

Why don't they ever do scramble in the Ryder Cup?

That'd be so sick.

Because it would just be a birdie. Birdie.

Yeah, it already was. Keegan fucked up the course.

Scramble.

Would not be fun.

Shane Bacon. I saw our friend Shane Bacon was doing his show, CBS on Golf, and he was. He was like, that was the worst course setup ever. It was like, the least exciting golf because everyone just got birdies and everyone could hit every single shot.

Yeah.

Like, they were spinning balls off the rough. Shit like that. Just crazy. So we fucked up. Zach. Hot seat. Cool throne.

My hot seat this week is going. I'm going to have to put myself in the hot seat this morning. I may have committed, like, a cardinal co worker sin by mistake.

Oh, boy.

Which is not good. And I would like to apologize to a few people.

Microwave fish.

It's. I did not do that.

That.

That is also a sin.

We.

Nobody should microwave fish. But I got here around 8, 8:15 this morning. I was excited to start the day. I was like, we'll have a good show. Good day. Put my stuff down, go out. I'm like, all right, we'll get the ice cream situation situated early. You know, we'll get everything flipped, all the cones stocked, and then immediately, as soon as I'm on the other side of the court getting the machine down, truck siren, Goes off across the building. And I instantly knew that it was one of the several alarms that I set on my phone. And like there's people at desks trying to get early work done, trying to get dialed. And I couldn't have sprinted faster to the other side. They tried to be. They were outwardly understanding, but I know I just ruined many mornings.

Wait, so it was at your desk.

I left the phone here and then I was the furthest you can be from this corner desk.

Your desk is like right by where a lot of people are working. Can we hear the phone alarm?

I can play it also.

What time was this?

This was 8:15.

Okay.

So like the people working are just dialed in. There's not many people moving and shaking.

And everyone looks over because that's very clearly an alarm that you set to wake up in the morning and it.

Takes you 15 seconds to run over. Over to turn it off.

Maybe 25. I'm not. I got short legs. But I did do the best I could. I felt so bad.

It was.

Yeah, yeah, it was terrible. Co worker move.

Okay, let's hear the alarm.

I'm not sure if I'll be able to.

All right, maybe I can you just.

Set it again for.

Oh, set it for like 1101.

Yeah, set it for.

Yeah. All right.

Do your cool throne and just set it and forget it for a minute from now.

Zach, are you a set a new alarm every time? Guy, are you a use your old alarms that you already have? I'm repurpose them.

I. I hit. I just hit the button every morning. So then you have. You just have like a list and you hit, you. You go down, you fly the list down.

All on.

Don't forget, people be mad at you.

And then you gotta turn them off.

When you wake up.

Yeah, I've got. I think I have maybe 30 different times that are set for alarms right now. And so I just pick one that's close to whatever I need.

I have next day I have just two. I just have an AM and a pm. If I ever by nap, I'll. I'll add a pm. That's.

That's it.

Do you edit?

Yeah, I edited every morning.

I.

Every night. But I just have two alarms and I just before I go to bed, I change it the am. And then whenever I able to catch a nap, I'll use the pm.

I don't trust one alarm. I always do like four or five.

Really?

Yeah.

Just in case.

I guess I'm also different. My kids will wake me up anyway.

All My titles for alarms are like a little time capsule in the past.

Look at me.

I've got past memories.

Memes. That was so many alarms.

Yeah, I got like, the mics were. The mics were off. You got.

You got to do it again. You got to do it again.

It did scare me a little bit, though.

Yeah.

Look, I have two alarms. AM and PM memes. That was like a thousand.

How many memes you have? More than this. I think I have, like 40.

No, he's got meme's head, like, so.

It looks like I have one every 15 minutes for the whole day till. Yeah, no, 11:38pm is the final one.

That's crazy. So you just. What. What does that do? What?

I just always have it. Want to take a nap? You just set an alarm.

Yeah, I've got 36. 36 different alarms, and some I very clearly gave labels to back in, like, 2012.

Yeah, my most common one is just email Chestnut because for some reason I needed to email Joey Chestnut.

Like.

That'S the 8:00am one, and I. I think I need it. Oh, there it is.

Oh, that's brutal, Zach.

That.

Yeah, I did that to people at.

Their desk, and I feel terrible.

I wish I could be a one alarm guy.

I just.

In full transparency, I'm not there.

Yeah, someday.

Oh, I just had an alarm go off right now. I made a reminder for myself a few weeks ago. Give ceiling on commander season. I think you guys asked me that.

Oh, okay.

Maybe on like the 9th of September, and I said I'd answer you at the end of the month.

So give us the ceiling.

All right.

So the ceiling on the commander season. I think at the best, this team is going to be good enough.

To.

Lose in the second round of the playoffs.

That's the ceiling.

I think that's the ceiling.

The ceiling is. Is.

Is the.

Is not the NFC championship?

I don't think so.

So you're worse this year than you were last year.

The. The final result of the season is going to be worse this year than it was last year.

That can't. It's one or the other. Because the ceiling last year was higher than the ceiling you just said. So it has to be worse. That you think that they're worse than they were last year.

I think we're. I think we're going to be a better team by the end of the year.

Then the ceiling would have to at least be the same.

I think the ceiling is. Is lose in the second round of playoffs.

Then you think that they're worse but.

We get fucked by the refs that we should have won.

That doesn't.

Yeah, no, it makes sense.

That is worse.

It has to be worse. If you think that's the. If you think that's the ceiling, then it has to be worse.

No, I think we're gonna be better football. There's a lot of.

Then the ceiling is the same.

The film's gonna be better than.

The ceiling is the same.

We're gonna get by the ref.

Ceiling is the roof.

So officially not thinking soupy this year.

Does everyone want to do charge your.

Ceilings real quick if we beat the Chargers this weekend?

Ceilings. Ceiling. I'm happy to do ceiling.

Okay.

All right, all right.

Ceiling. NFC divisional loss.

Okay. Zach. Ceiling for the Bucks.

I mean, I think second round playoff loss.

Oh, I think it'll be. You got to be super.

Yeah, you got to be Super Bowl.

Retract that.

You can say Super Bowl.

Super Bowl.

Yeah, we just jumped.

We just jumped over the NFC Championship game.

No, they just won that.

We got to go through some guys.

And then we're there.

Yeah, straight through them. Don't even mention them.

Yeah, you are in the game with the Eagles. Eagles obviously are. Super bowl ceiling.

So you.

You can say super bowl ceiling.

Yeah.

Max.

Super Bowl. Yeah, super bowl memes.

Seven seed.

Seven seed.

Yeah, but. But the floor is.

Yeah, the.

Is dead last.

Yeah, that's the floor. Okay. Oh, we should do floors.

Next, I would like to put super bowl appearance asterisk. That's your ceiling on what happens Sunday night.

That's your seal.

I'm.

I think.

I think we're going to shock the world this Sunday.

And then.

And then it's. Then anything's possible. Okay, but the asterisk, if we get.

Smoked, then that'd be lucrative for you.

I know.

I think wild card.

I'm not scared to support my team and my. In my second year quarterback, who I.

Believe in wild card loss is the Bear ceiling. That would be an incredible. It'd be incredible season.

Be fun.

Yeah.

Max.

Floor.

Oh, the floor. I don't want to think about the floor.

Ooh, say the floor. It's dark. You want to go floor first?

I think the floor is second round playoff loss.

Okay.

That's what we're going to do.

Okay.

That's what this team's going to do this year. Write it down right now. Commanders make the second round. We might even. We might even smoke the wild card team in the first round.

Is that because Hank just kind of. Kind of bullied you into that saying.

That what with what second year?

I thought he's talking about big Cat.

He's looking at both of us.

Well, the thing about Hank is he's going to change his mind entirely in like.

That's true.

So it doesn't matter after.

That's fair point.

Yeah.

Week one, he said we're not going to go. We have no chance of winning eight games because you lost week one. And I do the same thing. But you, you gotta. You can't just pretend that like you've always just been confident. Yeah, no, but then you said that you're like.

Then your quarterback goes and has the best, you know, best rating out of all the quarterbacks in week. Week three and it's like. Or week four and. Yeah, anything's possible.

Okay. Yeah. You're.

You're a film guy.

Floor Zach graph guy. If we're talking floors are good.

Graphs are really good.

No injuries involved in floors. No injuries involved in floors.

Okay.

I think things can get dark quick for any team. So I think floor is like six wins.

Whoa.

Like, I think it can happen to all, any of us at any time.

But if there are injuries, then you can just be like. That's my, my prediction for the floor did not account injured, so you can't be held account for that.

Yeah.

I'll say wild card loss.

Okay, that's the floor. Floor. Floor memes. Zero wins.

Max just picking first.

Do you see the stat, Max?

That should be your ceiling.

And Schefter just put out.

Oh, that was mean.

That was mean.

He just said that that should be your ceiling. Memes picking first.

Yeah, it's rude.

Max Schefter just said through four games this season, the Eagles have been outgained by 327 yards, the fourth worst margin in the NFL.

Whoa.

Here, here's the thing about that. I don't give a fuck.

What if, what if you start losing though? Then you'll give a fuck. And the signs are there. They're winning. Okay.

Okay.

Your. Your floor.

Floor. Lowest of the low. Worst case scenario would. Would probably be losing one of the games to the Jets.

So you could hit your ceiling and your floor. Yeah, it would be the first team ever if you win the super bowl but lose to the jets, just make the Super Bowl.

No, Hank would be the second person to ever do it because I could have potentially hit my ceiling.

Oh, yeah.

At the same time, a few weeks earlier.

Yeah. Yeah.

My floor. I'm going to say four wins. Four wins would be the floor. I think the. Think that would be a Pretty big disaster.

That's a bad floor.

That's a. But it's a. It's. That's a floor.

The floor.

That is a floor. Okay, let's get to our interviews. We got Brandon Walker and then Lane Kiffin and then we'll finish off with.

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Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. He's a recurring guest. It is coach Lane Kiffin. The Ole Miss Rebels off a big win on Saturday. First of all, congratulations. Huge win. How what was the vibe? I saw some of your posts on Twitter. I love that you're active the vibe after the game because it did feel like. I don't want to call it a breakthrough game, but maybe you can say that like where it was like, this is you guys have arrived before, but this was a game that maybe had eluded you before, and then you finally win it. What was the vibe like after the game?

You know, this may surprise you. I didn't really have that vibe at all. Like a breakthrough game, you know. You know, we had the Georgia game here a year ago where I think Georgia was 2 in the country and won that game. It's actually the same. Same announcers. So it was kind of, you know, Molly on the sideline afterwards interview, and it kind of like brought that back to me, but it didn't. It felt like we just played like we. We should in a lot of areas and. And we won. We were faith in the game. So it really didn't. Didn't feel like this monumental win like that, you know, really at all. Felt like, hey, we were supposed to win. We felt good about a number of matchups in the game, and our players made a number of plays in those situations. And, and, you know, like, the. The yardage was so lopsided, you know, I think over 220 yards difference in the game and the third downs. And so outside of penalties and turnovers, there was really kind of a lopsided game that way. So it didn't have that feeling like you just win right at the end, you know, right.

With a field goal or you get a bunch of breaks that go your way and happen to win.

Yeah, yeah.

And then after the game. I'm a big fan of your dog, at least online. Juice is a very good boy. Have you had a word with Juice for tweeting out the picture of the hat that said Brian Kelly can't run the damn ball? I feel like Juice is putting rat poison out there.

He's young, you know, he's only like three.

Yeah.

So, you know, like, you can't really mature tell you just mature and he's not there yet. And in his defense, think about it. This dog's ego is so out of control. Think about it. He does the walk, you know, the champions walk before, and there's whatever 30,000 fans there yelling his name. Juice. Juice. So I worry about our players and their egos, you know, and everywhere that everybody knows them, but they're walking through with a hundred other players. He's the only dog.

Yeah.

Well know his name. So that's all he knows. Like, he's got to take pictures with a bunch of fans, you know, before the game and stuff. He gets to tea sometimes, so he really hasn't had really many humbling things in life yet. To kind of ground him. So you know, that that's why he does those things, you know, like right after the game. I mean, come on.

Yeah.

That had to make you so mad when you saw that your dog tweeted that out and you were like, come on, man. That's the last thing that I need.

Please stop not running the ball, Brian Kelly, come on.

Is he in the doghouse?

No, because that's the problem. There's too many people around here that don't discipline. I try, and then everybody's like, oh, no, it's Juice. He's just a dog. You know, so it kind of. It's. It's an issue, you know, we've created a monster.

Yeah.

21 years old. In dog years, though, maybe older. No.

Better.

Yes.

Yeah.

21. They don't. They don't know anything. I didn't. That's for sure.

That's a fact. I want to talk about your quarterback real quick. Trinidad. He's awesome, and he came from Ferris State. Really cool story when you're getting a guy from a transfer portal from Ferris State. What. What is that process, like, where you're like, hey, are there question marks? Can he play at this level? Because he obviously has proven that he can, but it's got to be a little weird getting a guy from a smaller school like that and stepping up to the sec. It's not like, stepping up, you know, one level and then going to the sec. It's Ferris State to the sec. That's pretty crazy.

Yeah, I think I realized that, like, the first meeting we were in, we're in the quarterback meeting, you know, in the fridge has, like, water Gatorades and everything. And he's like, do I need to pay for this, Trinidad? It's good, man. You, like, you're gonna get a lot of. A lot of stuff here. You know, you're an SEC on full scholarship. But I love that you just said. It's a good story. I love this story. Think about how many Division 2, Division 3 players there are out there, you know? And here's this kid, like, living the dream and making the most of it, you know, he gets the opportunity to come here. Austin's doing really well playing. And Austin gets hurt, and he comes in, and she was the national player of the year last Saturday. And so, you know, he was going from playing in front of, you know, a thousand people. And so, you know, that's such such a good story for all the kids striving out there. Like, man, if I work hard, maybe I'll get my chance, you know, like playing in Division 2, you know, instead of like, no one's going to notice me.

And here, here, this guy is to, to motivate so many so. And it's such a, it's such a great story. Like I said, here's a short little quarterback, a little Ole Miss, you know. You know, playing against Nussmeyer and the mighty LSU Tigers.

Yeah.

What a story.

Yeah.

And was there a moment in, in training camp where you're like, okay, we made the right decision. This guy can, this guy can ball. Because I'm sure there was probably a small part of you that was like, we don't know, like, we, he's, we see that he's really good, but it is Ferris State and this is a different level. And was there that click moment where like, okay, yeah, no, this is, this is going to work out.

He.

He can ball.

Yeah, he really did well in any scrimmage format. Like whenever we went in the stadium, he just kind of lit it up. You know, some people kind of say, man, that's Trinidad magic going on. And so he really just made a bunch of plays, kind of had a Baker Mayfield ish, you know, feel to him, running around and keeping plays alive. And it's crazy, you know, somebody in our offense, you know, was joking. They're like, in our offensive staff and they're like, you know, Trinidad had more yards than he did one year ago, like I think this week or something. And they're like, he was playing Roosevelt College.

Right, right. It's nuts.

It is, it's. It. But it's, it's. It's a wonderful, like I said, story for so many, so many people to stay motivated. Whether you're at a small high school, small college, whatever it is, you never know.

Yeah. Yeah.

Was this week weird for you? Was it, Is it weird having like, everybody across the country talk about your daughter and your daughter's boyfriend and then you have to answer questions to like, journalists, like 55 year old journalists being like, hey, tell me about your daughter and her boyfriend. That seems. Feels like that would be a weird position just as a human being to be in.

Yeah, the first one, a lot of them avoided it, you know, and I remember the first one that asked me was like, hey, I know you've been getting this question all week. And I'm like, no, you're the first one. Most have avoided this.

Yeah.

Football questions. But, you know, I, I just, I think it's great that I've been through so much in my life. Ups, downs, and all that. And having had just actually gone through it with the E60 show and having to, like, recap all those things, you know, then you're like. You get to a point where you're just like, man, things aren't really that big of a deal. Just embrace them, go with it. And I've now tried to learn to reserve judgment of a situation. Like, things happening. Oh, this is terrible. Firing, you know, breakup, a daughter, dating a linebacker on the other team. All those things that you might think are terrible. You don't know, they might end up being wonderful things.

Right.

So, you know, I got fired from ufc. I thought my life was over, especially, like, watching that show and you're on the tarmac and everything. And look, had that not happened, I would have never got a chance to go be with Nick Saban and learn all that and all those relationships and become a much better coach. So I just embraced it, ran with it, and. And what's a great kid, great family? So I look at it as like, hey, how blessed are you that, you know, they're. They're in a good relationship with great people.

Yeah.

I like to be open to the universe.

Yeah.

It's good advice. Is it.

Is it everything?

Is it a recruiting violation to talk to wit?

I don't know.

That's a.

That's a good question.

I don't mean to blow the whistle on you. I was just curious.

Yeah. After, I was like, hey, you know, if you're not going to the NFL, that portals coming up in here.

But, yeah, no, I. Actually, leading up to it, I was like, I think Lane Kiffin's the perfect guy to handle this because you. You immediately took to Twitter and were having fun with it, and it's like, it's clear, it's not bothering him. Everyone assumes the worst of it, and they're like, oh, he's going to be so bothered. It's like, I think he's gonna be fine, and Ole Miss is gonna win this game. Did you. Did you feel a little bad that the tempo, though, did make him puke?

Well, it's funny that you. When you just said that about Lane Kiffins maybe the one to handle this, I was like, you know, what's that saying? You know, they always say, God doesn't give you things you can't handle.

Yeah, probably.

I'm the one, coach.

Yeah.

To put that on the week of the game.

Yeah.

Handle it.

Yeah.

And the way you reacted, I was like, he's fine. Like, he's joking about it. Openly. I think you wouldn't joke about it openly if it was, like, a thing that shocked you. I. I assumed you had known for a while that she was dating him. And, like, I was like, yeah, he's handling it perfectly. But. But the. But the puking, that was a little mean. Shouldn't have done that type of tempo on him.

Hey, man, we got to win the game, you know, and even though I embraced it and he's a great kid and everything, we might have increased the tempo just a little bit, you know, like, he plays in the first half, you know, see if we can get this guy to throw up, you know?

Yeah. So.

So how do you handle the week after? You guys have a season that's ramping up right now, but you're. You're feeling pretty good about yourself. You give the guys any time off?

We're. We're grinding right now. We got to get better. And that's just not coach speak, man. We turn the ball over. Lost the turnover margin, had a ton of penalties, you know, that kept that game closer than it would have been otherwise. So we're back to work. We do have a buy then that next week we'll get on to Washington State. We're actually using these two days to. To work on Georgia, you know, so that we have some prep for that, because that's the game after it. And. And, you know, I have these two advanced guys that are, like, the best football guys ever, and they are, like, the biggest fans of you guys.

Oh, I love it.

They got to come say hi, man.

Yes. Yeah.

Fisher, Ray, Sawyer, Jordan, like the key.

All right, so. So we got a question for you guys, because I'm aw, by the way.

Love that.

Love that. So we. When PFT and I like, travel to college games, we oftentimes see, like, NFL scouts, and they'll. They'll like, be like, hey, we love listening to you. And if you guys are true football guys and you know football, why the fuck do you listen to how stupid we sound talking about football? Are there times when you're listening and you're like, God damn it, these guys are dumb?

For me, I kind of like the.

Like the secondary twist on it, and I like laughing. Is I like it not as serious all the time? Yeah, I. I personally enjoy. I think you guys know ball, though.

You guys are ball knowers. That's a red flag that you think that.

Yeah, yeah.

Lane, fire him. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

He's a great guy. Loa awareness.

Yeah.

I love Eval, Fisher and Sawyer are great names for advanced scouts at Ole Miss. Yeah, that's perfect.

Yeah.

And great pickleball players. They kind of do everything.

Oh, hell, yeah.

You guys should come to a game. We'll play in pickleball. Staff baseball.

We kind of.

We kind of do a lot around here.

Can the stadium handle us and Mincy at the same time? I don't think so.

We'll.

We'll kick out these two. Want to play Mincy and Jon Gruden. Two on two, man, I love that.

I love a good matchup. I would just like to see Mincy run.

Yeah. Yeah.

Thank you, boys, for listening. We appreciate it.

Still some time.

Yeah.

Do you guys have any words for Brandon Walker? He's on today's show, too. We appreciate how big of a fan of the program he is. He always seems to know a lot about what's going on inside.

Program.

Who's that? That's the Mississippi. Saturday was in Neyland Stadium.

Oh, no, that was at home. That was a Mississippi State.

It was a great loss.

Yeah, exactly. Did you see it?

Yeah.

Oh, yes.

Oh, I see what you're saying. I get it now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There were a lot of. There were a lot of Tennessee fans. I think there was.

Yeah.

They were getting mad because faculty was selling the tickets.

The.

It is funny. You got to watch out for those guys, though, seriously, because we fill people's brains with some really dumb thoughts and you got to just make sure, like, you maybe have to put them on like, a snap count of, like. Hey, you can only listen to a couple hours this week because all of a sudden you're going to be getting. They're going to be pitching you laterals, fake punt, punts. Just all kinds of crazy.

Hey, pft.

Yeah, I'm all about the lateral, man.

We need more laterals.

Yeah.

Yeah, talk to him. That I've been saying for, like 10 years, the future of offense is the design downfield laterals. I mean, we do the hooky ladders. That's been around for forever. Yeah, but I mean, like, if you get. If you get a couple defenders running to make a tackle, you're going to have guys, if they're in open channels to the side, you can hit them 10 yards, take off chunk plays.

Yep.

They've tried to. They have tried to sell me and Charlie Weiss, our offensive coordinator. I didn't even know that you guys talk about this. And if they think about, like, in seven on seven tournaments and the ability to lateral and keep the ball out and the Explosive plays created because everybody runs towards it and get out of. Think of a new box, a way of thinking. And you'd be a much more explosive offense if you did it that way. And you would tire the defense even more because they'd have to chase you around.

Yeah.

And what it also does, it makes the guy that if you throw it to wide receiver, it makes him more likely to have a chunk play too, because the other defenders are maybe a little hesitant to all swarm on that guy because they don't want to leave a guy. If you watch a lot of rugby, that's like the number one principle of offensive rugby is to make the defenders make a commitment to one guy and then exploit the weakness. So in a few years when we're up for some head coaching jobs.

Yeah, we got to come work for us.

Yeah, absolutely.

We'll say that you're the hot name coach. Have you thought about the fake punt? Punt what? The fake punt. Punt.

Punt.

Yeah.

You talk.

Okay, so you line up like you're about to punt, and then you line up like you're about to punt, and then you. And then you snap it to a running back like you're going to fake it, and then the running back pitches it back to the punter and then he punts.

Okay, all right. Like flicker punt.

Yes, yes. It's a fake punt. Punt. Okay, think about it then.

We saw Ben Johnson over the weekend. He did the fake flea flicker where the running back kept it after faking the pitch. What about the fake fake flea flicker where he fakes the pitch, then fakes a run, then pitches it back and then punts.

Yep.

Pooch punt.

Oh, like fourth down.

Yeah.

Like quarterback.

Yeah, yeah.

These are all some. There's some. There's some pretty cutting edge ideas that we've got. I know you're a cutting edge guy, so just think about incorporating some of them.

I hear you. I don't really punt normally, but.

But if you do.

If we do.

Yeah, yeah.

Give them a. Give him a different look. Make them kind of them up a little bit.

Again, if there is a coach to listen to this and possibly do this, you're talking to the right one.

Exactly, exactly.

We can ask you some real football questions, like, what do you think about Paul Feinbaum running for Senate?

So then that means I don't have to deal with him anymore.

Yes.

Or maybe deal with him a lot more.

I don't know, like on the interviews where, you know, you're like interviewing with them and then he just freezes and doesn't Say anything back.

Yeah. Yeah.

Anymore.

Yeah.

He's out of here.

I think Paul would be great for that.

Okay.

Yeah.

So give him. You're endorsing him, so that's perfect.

Mitch McConnell's been doing that for years.

Yeah.

You'll freeze the freeze frame on him. What is your.

You.

You mentioned right there. Not. Not just coach speak. When you got into little coach speak. What's the telltale sign of. When you're in. Deep into coach speak and you're answering a question that you don't want to answer and you just hit him with question the cliches. What's your favorite cliche to go with?

I don't do a lot of that, if you follow me, like, so I usually just say what it is. I probably do that when it comes to injuries, you know, because that's. That's more like protecting advantages, competitive advantages. So that's where I kind of go back to coach speak. When they're like, you know, how's. How's his ankle? You know, And I'm like, they're like, will you play this week? I'm like, I really. I really hope he plays this week.

Yeah.

And I just say that about everybody.

Yeah. We're evaluating everything.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks like. It really looks like he might play this week.

Yeah.

We're taking it one day at a time. He's been very impressive with all his rehab activity. Spend a lot of time with the training staff. They're doing a great job.

Yeah. Or. Or like, I. My sixth year in the deep south here in Mississippi, I like. I start to, like, listen to these things they say down here, and they're. They're actually way ahead of what you think. So on something like that, we have this guy, Tom Luke, who's been here forever, and I'll ask him a question and he'll go, yeah, we might could. Not could. I'm like, what does that. Either yes or no? No, we might could. And I'm like, that's so stupid. Then after a while, I'm like, that's brilliant.

Yeah.

You're really not saying anything that you're held accountable. Mike could.

Yeah.

You're just handing them something.

We get this done on Friday, the day before the game. Yeah, we might could.

Yeah, he's plausible deniability. He could just be like, I never said I was going to do it. I said Mike could. Yeah, that is brilliant.

Double maybe.

I might start doing Mike could on people.

You do that on injury. I'm gonna start doing an injury hey.

Hey.

Is Austin Simmons playing this week? Yeah, I might could.

Yeah, you can. You can also just say that's HIPAA you're asking about. You're asking me to commit a HIPAA violation.

Yeah.

Can't talk.

Which. That's against law.

Then they made the SEC rule, and then, like, they have. Have to, like, you have to say something. So I think they got around that somehow.

Yeah.

Do. Do you enjoy living in the South?

I do. I do. And that was something that maybe right at first, I was a little bit hesitant on compared to, you know, being in Boca, coming from there, and then, you know, the beach in California before that. And so I had to. Took me some time to kind of open up to seeing things differently than what I thought they should look like and what I thought I wanted. And now I love it. I really do. It's awesome.

The hard part for me would be. Would be all the, like, fried food and fat and. You look great. Yeah, you look awesome.

Remember last time you came on and I said, you look awesome, and you're like, what? Because you, like. You're just commenting on my looks, but you do look awesome.

Yeah.

Okay, that's getting a little weird.

Yeah, no, you look great.

Nice work.

Best shape of your life.

This is kind of cooler when, like, the female, you know. You know, two guys is a little uncomfortable.

What?

I mean, you okay? You look hot.

Okay, now I got really weird.

This is us fishing for a compliment from you.

Yeah.

How do we look?

Yeah, you guys look.

You guys look okay.

Okay, pause.

Yeah.

You'Re right.

You're right about the fried food. So, yes, I. I do think I'm, you know, I like to be different. It's kind of been the story of my life. I kind of like to go against the grain and be different. So I'm, like, probably one of the only people ever that moves from, like, South Florida, California, to Mississippi and then loses a bunch of weight.

Yeah.

You know, like, I remember being here, like, on a Sunday, like, hey, let's go work out. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Nobody works out on a Sunday. It's Lord's day. No, no one's at gyms aren't open. And so but they're like, oh, but the buffet line is, you know, let's go to brunch.

Yeah.

And then I noticed every meal was, like, dinner or supper. I think they say here, like, lunches are like, supper, too. And so I just was like, okay, I gotta go against the grain on this and just kind of get certain foods and buy into the south, but not into the food.

Yeah. Yeah.

I got a very dumb question for you. Ready? This is the dumbest question you probably will ever get as a coach. You wear a visor. Have you ever thought about wearing the visor with the fake hair?

No, I have not.

Okay. Think about it. That would be awesome if you just came out with, like, blonde hair. It was fake. Blonde hair. You know, the ones they sell at gas stations.

Yeah.

Would be kind of funny.

I think Doug Peterson wore those.

Yeah.

You're thinking about it, right?

Told you it's a dumb question.

In college, we went back to, like, Tampa, like, out by St. Pete, to, like, a. The beach out there area. And we were like, we're gonna go to, like, this 80s band, you know, like, Stormbringer was their name. And we went to, like, the, like, Dollar store and bought, like, clothes, you know, like, that would fit in down there. It's kind of like the Florida beaches, like, on that side over there. And. And I do remember we got, like, the wig deal.

Yeah.

I got the rat tail that you can pin on. Awesome.

Think about it. Think about it. What. What.

What if you did rat tail for a game?

That would be awesome.

That'd be intimidating.

Like, oh, it's Elaine Kiffin. Rattail game. What? When did you. When did you realize you were a visor guy? Because they don't make. Visor guys are not like. They're a different sect. You can't. Not everyone could be a visor guy.

When did you.

When you were officially like, yeah, you know what? I am a visor guy.

Well, when I grew up, I always. I was always like. And this may make a little more sense now, I was like, I want to be Steve Spurrier.

Okay.

Like, when I watched him in his offenses and the visor and kind of the way he would throw jabs at other coaches and teams and stuff, I was like, steve Spurrier is the man. Like, that's what I want to be. So that's where I started the visor thing and probably started some of the comments maybe of other. Other programs, too.

Yes. Yeah.

But I thought it was awesome because I thought the players, like, loved it. They're like, we want to go play for Steve Spurrier. Like, he's got our back, you know? So that's really what steered me also away from Coach Speak, too, was just watching Coach Spurrier.

Yeah. Yeah.

You talked earlier about Nick Saban and your time that you spent with him at Alabama. Have you thought about doing a similar thing at Ole Miss? Like, if a guy gets Fired or a guy loses a job, whether it be college or NFL. Have you thought about incorporating some of what Nick did for you for other coaches that might need to get back on the right path?

Oh, definitely. We've done that now a couple years here and had some coaches that, you know, maybe we're going to take a year off still on contract somewhere, and they came here and we've had that happen a lot. Shoot. Joe Judge came here after the Giants and now he's our quarterback coach. You know, his son goes here, so we've got some good stories like that up.

Yeah, yeah.

So how often do you check the portal as a head coach? Like, do you. Do you do that, like, all the time?

Well, it's not open now.

Yeah, but you never know if you refresh. Like, maybe one sneaks through.

Yeah. What if they accidentally opened it for like a day and you missed it?

Yeah, we have people on that. Okay, so in the morning, when it's open in the morning, like the stock market, you know, like, you get the update like every morning. All right, here's these 16 people that went in. You know, there's these two quarterbacks. You need to go watch these guys, you know, like. So, yeah, we get those updates a lot when.

When you're flipping a recruit and I think you just flipped one a couple days ago. Right cornerback.

Can't comment on that.

Okay.

Okay. Because that's oats speak. Okay. I allegedly. If you were to be flipping a cornerback, like, how. How do you try to close that deal? How much of it is pro ole Miss verse. Anti. Let's say hypothetically, a school that starts with the letter M.

Yeah.

Okay. Hypothetically, school that. Oh, keep speeding. Ohio State.

Yep, yep. Yeah, maybe.

Yeah.

So I would not talk about that school. I would not negatively recruit at all. Not one bit. Because we get negative recruit a lot. And so I always tell them, like, hey, shouldn't it be a red flag if they're. If the school doesn't have enough to talk about, about themselves that they need to negative talk us? It should be a red flag to you. So I don't do anything, no matter where you're committed, any of that. And I just sell our program. And a lot of times they come to the town, they see the energy, they see the style that we play in, and then our players sell it a lot, you know, and they talk to our players and they realize, okay, you just don't win here. You have a lot of fun doing it. And the coaches and players are really, really close here. I think that's what does it.

That's smart. That's really smart. All right, I got one last question for you, coach. It's always great having you on. We love having you on and being a recurring guest. So Roback question. Rho, B, A, C, K dot com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code, take you posted after the game the quote from Brian Kelly during the week. Do you have a guy specifically that is just looking for bullets and board material for you or you actually seeing it and being like, okay, huh, I'll think about that. I'll put that. I'll file that away.

No, we get. I get like on my desk, like it just happens to be from last week, like Tuesday opponent news. And then there's all like press conferences, player interviews, things they said and stuff like. And so that was, that was right there. Yeah, that was. And it actually made our bulletin board, like on our screens during the week, like, you know, just to try to motivate guys when, you know, the other coach says, oh, we're going to keep this trophy here. We're looking forward to it. So, you know, I put it on the big screens for everybody to see.

I'd like to offer to you, if you ever are in a week where the other, the opposing team doesn't really give you any bulletin board material, you can text me and we will give you both bulletin boards material. We'll trash you guys.

Yes. Planted bullets and board material.

Yeah, just be like, you know, talk up the opponent a little bit. Also, I wanted to say thank you for apologizing after the Kentucky game. Do you get in any trouble for that?

No.

Okay.

Well, I appreciate the apology because I did, I did back you guys and I appreciated that a lot.

Yeah, I just, I just look at things differently too. And then I feel like, really bad on a serious note, like when we perform bad. And I feel like, man, I didn't coach or manage a situation or something. I'm like, that's a lot of people you're affecting. Yeah, a lot of people's like, day, week, everyone, all the fans that drove all the way here to see and everything. So I get really down on myself by this. I apologize.

Yeah.

You know, like, you know, I should have done better today. And so. And then I spend all off season trying to revenge that in my head of those games to make sure it doesn't happen again. Yeah, we had two. We've already had two opponents Kentucky and LSU that we screwed up last year. We were ahead of both those games, like, the whole game. Should have totally won both those games and screwed it up and didn't. So it was nice to be able. There's a lot of excitement to be able to play them the next year and be able to come out on the other side for your fans.

Yeah.

My last question. Do you allow yourself to think about what the ceiling for this team is like? Have you thought about what the ultimate goal is? Like? Do you even say that? Or are you like, we got to win the next game?

Yeah, I don't say any of that. There's too many variables on that. And, you know, people decide who go to the playoffs and all those things and referees and all that. I stay in the week in the opponent, you know, get to one, and, oh, only during the bye week do we look ahead to try to, like, work on opponents and stuff. But everything is about what we can control, which is practicing and trying to play really well.

Yeah.

Well, coach, really, really appreciate you giving us time. Best of luck. Rest of the season, we'll do this again. And yeah, make sure that juice, you know, maybe stays off Twitter for a little bit. Maybe ban him for a little bit.

Okay. All right, guys, have an awesome week. Thanks for having me.

All right. You look great. You look awesome. You look hot.

Really hot.

So hot.

Thank you.

All right.

Bye, Daddy.

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Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. Because he complains all the time about not being on the show by himself.

Never have.

That's not true. Maybe a couple times.

Continue the intro, please.

He is our college football expert for at least a few more months.

That is an earned title, sir.

For at least a few more months. He's also the winner of Dingers Only. It is the one, the only, Brandon F. Walker.

Two time Dingers only champ.

Two time Dingers only Chip. You know, ball.

Congratulations. We should also say congratulations to Stephen Che, who lost Dingers Only. He's going to be pitching. And to Zach, who came in second place, which means he'll be catching.

Yes.

Quite a combo.

Dinger's only, to my knowledge, the only comp. The only competition in this entire company where the winner gets nothing.

Zero.

Absolutely nothing.

Nothing.

You're the Ding. You're the Ding King.

You're the Ding King.

So I didn't want. When Big Cat floated this idea to me, I initially told him no because it sounded too mean.

This is.

But we'd like to welcome it. We'd like to welcome in Ben Mintz.

Oh, yes.

Come on, Mincy.

Yeah, well, we know he's not here on a Monday.

That's a fair point. Listen, he's got. He's got weekend preview stuff to do.

Yeah.

Last weekend.

All right, Brandon. We are five weeks into the college football season.

We are.

Oh, Penn State.

We are.

Start there. Penn State. Let's start with the Penn State discussion because we had a great Saturday. There was some awesome games. You, unfortunately, have gotten a lot of things wrong, which we'll address all of them.

I've gotten a lot of things right.

Clemson.

I got that wrong.

Alabama.

What did I say about them dead? You had a preseason top 10.

You had a funeral for Alabama.

Yeah.

Buried him. That was more T. Bob than me.

No, Penn State.

Penn State's not wrong yet.

Okay, okay. All right. But let's talk about Penn State.

Penn State's fascinating, right?

Let's talk about Penn State because Penn State is in a Weird spot where they are a very good team every single year. And James Franklin cannot win the big one. He's like owen or like 2 and 700 against the big one. And Penn State fans, it feels like a tipping point where they're like, hey, we want. Obviously, there's a lot of scare. There's a lot of scary moments out there that you can look at being like, hey, you don't really want to change.

Right.

You could have a situation like Nebraska where you just kind of fall off the cliff of an.

Or.

Fall off a cliff?

Yeah.

A Michigan before Harbaugh got there.

Sure.

When they went from Lloyd Carr and then they went Rich Rod and then.

Brady Hoke and Tennessee's been through it.

Tennessee's.

Florida's going through it.

Florida's going through it. Not everyone can do the Mark Rick to Kirby Smart train.

Right.

Where do you think Penn State should go from here?

I think Penn State is absolutely on the. Should stay on the same course. Nothing has fallen off. Nothing has. They haven't bottomed out. They haven't done anything wrong yet. I think Penn State is the most. Everybody in college football is chasing their next opponent and they're trying to beat their next opponent and beat their schedule. Penn State is the number one team that's fighting a narrative right now that is their biggest opponent. It is not Ohio State. Coming up a couple weeks, it is the narrative that not only James Franklin, but Drew Aller can't do it. Penn State can't do it. James Franklin can do. None of them can do it. And I think it is fascinating because if you look on the surface, the other night would have been a huge win for Penn State. It would have gotten the monkey off their back. Instead, it just made the monkey much bigger, like a gorilla. Now it's bigger than it has ever been and maybe ever will be. But at the end of the day, they lost to the number two team in double overtime.

Well, they weren't the number two team at the time.

They're number two now. But they lost to a very good team, a playoff team in double overtime. The way the schedule set up, Penn State still going to the playoff, like everything about the first three quarters told me, James Franklin can't do it, Drew Aller can't do it. And then the fourth quarter happened. Right. So they're in this weird spot where the narrative about them is correct, but they also lost in double overtime after fighting back.

So the narrative was correct for three quarters.

Yeah, it was correct.

But they also show the same game that We've watched many times.

So they also showed some fight.

That was my question.

Yeah.

Did Penn State on Saturday. Are we looking at this wrong? Depends. They actually break through on Saturday. So we don't even realize it because. Follow me. Max is looking at me like I'm crazy. The first three quarters was the exact same Penn State game we've watched every single time, no matter what, where it's just like. And I actually. There was a moment in that game, 17 to 10.

Yeah.

When Penn State had it on goal line and I was like, here comes the Penn State member of the game against Ohio State last year.

Yeah.

They had first and goal and they could not get in. I was like, here it comes. This is going to be the Penn State. They can't get it in. They ran a great play. I think it was. I think it was some motion running back out.

It was like a shovel. It was a shovel pass.

Like something a little bit different. Score go to overtime. They might have broken through a little bit. Like they didn't lose the exact same way they lost in a big game, but they actually had some life and played some offense that we have not seen out of Penn State in these games.

So they didn't break through. But I think they played well enough in the fourth quarter to convince themselves that they can break through.

Okay, so you still think they can break?

I think they can break through. I thought it the other night. Again, they lost in double overtime. This is. The defense is elite. The running backs need to be better, the offensive line needs to be better, and Drew Aller needs to be better. They went out and invested all this money in receivers. Well, where the hell are they in the fourth quarter? They found all these guys.

Yeah.

What took you three quarters? I think. I don't know if it's a white out or. I don't know if this. They're scared of the narrative or if they're convinced the narrative is correct. It took them three quarters and them seeing their own blood and realizing that they were about to die, that they finally got up and started to fight. I think that convinced them that the next time these two teams played next week, it's a pick them game. Like, I would take Oregon. That's fine. You can do that. But like, Penn State is right there. This isn't a team that gets outclassed when they play these big teams. It's a team that just doesn't do the things to win. There are teams that get to this point. Indiana is a great example last year of a team that won 11 games, but both times they were on the field with an elite team. You saw the difference.

Yeah.

You don't see the difference with Penn State. They just haven't won them.

Yeah.

Broken through.

James Franklin disagrees with the fact that there's a narrative out there. He says if I look at the entire picture, I get the narrative. And it's not narrative. It's factual. It's the facts. I get it.

So he.

So he knows the narrative is out there, but the narrative isn't a narrative because it's actual facts.

It's not. What's the difference in, like, filmmaking, a narrative or a documentary?

So what he just said was, I know what they're saying about me and what they're saying about me isn't true. It's true.

It's true.

That's what he just said.

It's more true.

Right?

It's even. It's even more true than we had ever thought.

Right.

Or imagined.

You guys are treating it as rumor. It is stone cold fact.

Yeah, it is.

You.

You look at the numbers and it is true. I cannot win the big one.

The thing I don't like is that he said he didn't think about going for the risk and going for two to win the game. I think they should have. He didn't consider it.

You.

In regulation or.

Regulation. I should have at least considered it to say that, like, consider it.

Fine. But he had all the momentum in the world, and then they took a 24:17 lead in the overtime. Like, I think he played it correctly at that point. And they got Oregon down to a fourth and three or fourth and four. It's at that point, if I've got my defense and 111,000 people behind me. Yeah, I'm taking my chances with that. I think he played it correctly. It just. Oregon fought through it.

Also.

I was going to say, if we look at the recent history, Ohio State had a loss a lot like this last year.

Right.

And they bounced back from it and they just went on a fuck you tour.

Yeah.

I don't know that we can say with any sort of conviction that Penn State can do so because we've never seen them do that before.

The only difference is Penn State's problem is they can't beat the, like, best teams. Ohio State's problem is they can't beat Michigan. Michigan wasn't in the playoffs.

Right.

So it didn't. It didn't matter. Like, it's like, oh, we lost to Michigan. Well, guess what? We don't have to Play them again. They. Ohio State can beat the top teams. They just couldn't. Can't beat Michigan as of late.

Yeah. Ohio State woke up that Sunday and looked in front of them and said, we have a playoff now. We're not going to have to play the team that just beat us. For Penn State to get to where they need to go, they need to go through the team's blocking.

They have a lot of Michigan.

They have a lot Every. Every top Ohio State, Michigan and Oregon is now.

Oregon's a Michigan.

But again, Boise. I like the point was Boise State.

Was that a big one?

No, that's last year. It wasn't. It's not fair that it wasn't. But it wasn't like they were handed an easy road in the playoff and they took advantage of it. And then Notre Dame was the first one that was like, you can prove it here. And then they. They had Notre Dame and just in the fourth quarter, felt it down again.

Yeah. Yeah.

We should say, by the way, because the game, obviously the narrative is the narrative. And James Franklin pointed out the narrative. Dante Moore is really fucking good.

Really good.

And Dan Lanning is an awesome coach.

He is an awesome coach. But I just want to point this one thing out. They had this gigantic win in October last year when they beat Ohio State, 31, 30. And they propelled themselves to number one. And when those two teams met in the playoffs, one was ready and one was not.

They got stopped in the playoffs.

So I'm just. I'm just saying now his. His narrative needs to become do this shit in the playoffs.

Well, he's also early in his narrative.

He is.

Yes, only what, three, four years, but.

A couple of years ago, they had multiple chances to beat Washington and they. They dropped the ball, especially late in the season. That was basically a playoff game for it to get in the playoff, and he loses that one. So, like, he can do it now. Make sure we do it down the road.

He could be there.

I'm sure it's a point guy. At some point. He will.

But right now, I think it helps James Franklin's case that the game was over. Dan Lanning called game. He said game over. Yeah, throat slash on him. And then from that point on that. That's when Penn State woke up. Yeah, it's like almost like Penn State was 1 and 1 on the afternoon.

I'm not going to sit here and piss on your leg and tell you it's raining. I'm not going to tell you.

Thank you.

I'm not going to tell you that Penn State.

You do have bladder problems.

I'm going to tell you that. I'm not going to tell you that. PE is this elite of the elite team and they've proven anything. But I do think fighting back says a lot about him. I agree.

When was the last time you got your prostate checked?

Oh, man.

Because you do have bladder problems.

I don't have bladder problems. I pee a lot. Brandon is a big man.

He's every sign of.

You should have a big bladder.

Yeah.

How many times a night are you up?

Yeah, go ahead, Max.

I just have one question from the game.

Yeah, yeah.

Max was there.

I was there. I'm not going to be the guy. I'm not going to be a guy to blame the refs, but it is something to talk about.

The fumble.

What sounds like your thoughts on the flame.

The refs that you're talking about? The knee touching the blades of grass. Replay. I watched it a hundred times. I still don't know if he was.

Down or not grazed.

So how do you overturn the.

I don't know. I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know. You're a big grazing guy. What do you think?

That was mean, what he just did. But you have to answer the question.

He's short.

Okay.

All right.

So that. That's that game. Oregon is really good. I. I was so impressed with Dante Moore because that was his first real road start, you know, in this type of environment. You know, they obviously played Northwestern. That doesn't really count. It felt, you know, as an Oregon duck because obviously he played a couple years ago. But I was very impressed with Dante Moore. I think he's a bonafide dude.

He was impressive. And I'll tell you who else was impressive. The bodies they have on defense.

Yes.

Like, the big thing about coming to this conference and going east and playing these big established teams that are going to run the football and play defense is physically, you wouldn't expect a West coast team to be ahead of the game. Physically. Oregon is just beautiful looking on defense. They've got these big, huge defensive linemen that can all run the linebackers like they. They look like Ohio State looks on.

Yeah. And it's actually another game that happened on Saturday. Usc, Illinois.

We.

The whole narrative going to that game was USC finally beefed him up. Illinois kind of. I know it was very close game, but Illinois kind of like manhandled them at points in that.

Illinois kept them in the game, too.

Yeah, they did.

Illinois should have won that game by multiple touchdowns. Great Bounce Back by Brett Bielema and that team. He's an awesome coach. You didn't expect them to be crappy two weeks in a row. And then for usc, that's another. That's a narrative enforcing thing. We can't go east and win these games, and they can't.

I like this. We're doing narratives. Right. Here's the. Here's the other narrative that happened on Saturday night.

Yeah.

Kirby Smart's got a. Got an Alabama problem.

I have no idea how either.

So a couple things. One, that game, it was a great game. They played great games. I think it was the first time that Georgia lost at home.

How long it had been 2019. 2019. South Carolina.

Will Muschamp, wet, wettest coach we've got. Yeah, he was always wet.

You agree?

He was always wet.

I'm not sure that I remember him always being wet, but, yeah, we brought.

That up to Debo.

In my mind. He's wet.

He's.

He's the dampest coach that's ever existed.

There's a lot of damp coaches. What about Sean Miller? I guess that's basketball.

Yeah, everyone's wet.

Yeah, that's.

That's totally different.

I think Carol is a wet coach, too.

He's a little wet.

He's always.

Yeah, he's got spit, but he's a.

Cool wet, like, not a sloppy.

He's like, slick back, slick wet.

Yeah.

Riley's wet.

Wilson Muschamp is wet. Like, oh, I forgot my umbrella. I got caught in the rain.

Yeah, there's not enough towels. There's not enough towels in this room to cover me.

Did you. Were you just swimming in the ocean? Why are you so wet? Kirby Smart, though, I actually do think he's got a little bit of the Ryan Day Michigan issue, where it's like. Like, I don't know what happens, but in these games, they can beat everyone else. They can't beat Alabama. I thought, like, I'm used to Kirby Smart making the necessary adjustments, and maybe I shouldn't have been used to it because of what happened in the Tennessee game, where even though they won that game, Hypo finally broke through in the fact that his offense sustained four quarters against Kirby Smart. I don't understand what Kirby Smart was doing when they're down 24, 21 and he doesn't kick a field goal, and then they're down 24, 21 midfield with three minutes left, and he punts. And I know it was a long day. It was like, you know, 4th and 10 or something. But still, they never got the ball back. It felt like his brain kind of froze up in those two critical moments.

He changes everything about himself when he plays Alabama A is offensive coordinator kind of stinks. Bobo is just not aggressive.

Tough name to be a bad offensive coordinator.

When you talk about, when you talk about Kirby Smart, I talk about like a coach who's got a killer instinct. When he's playing these teams he's better than he's out there. He's grabbing players helmets, he's yelling at him, he's. He's fiery. And the players go out there and they play with their hair on fire. Against Alabama he's. Guy comes to the sideline, makes a mistake, he just grabs him by the little face mask and talks to him very gently pats him on the butt like he changes his demeanor. He changes everything and I think it goes to his team. Remember that fourth quarter drop that Georgia had wide open? Touchdown. Guy drops it. Then on 4th and 1 they, they, they, they don't go for the field goal. Their play call is a toss to a third string white running back pass. On that, no, then a fourth and one, you've got a defensive back coming in and diving onto the pile. And one of the more stupid things you'll ever see and so dumb. Alabama went 12 and 18 on third down. That is a lack of a killer instinct from a Georgia defense that absolutely destroys and throttles everybody else when they have the chance.

I have no idea why Georgia is going backwards when it comes to Alabama. They beat him in the national title game and that's the only time they beat him since Kirby's been there. I have no idea how you beat him in that situation. And then after that you go back to your old ways.

First of all, I don't like the racial overtones there. This is the school that had.

I'm just telling you right now, if I'm Georgia, I'm not throwing, I'm not tossing to a white running back on third down.

This is the school of lad of lad McConkey's Rock Bowers. Brock Bowers is.

That's a tight end.

Yeah, but you can talk. You can make a four. You can make a fourth and one. Work with a white guy. I, Mike Allstot, that's.

He's, this guy's not Mike Allstar. It was a toss.

I know he was a very skinny guy, but yeah, you make a good point. The drop pass, that's. It's a different game in entirely. Yeah, that was a touchdown pass.

And like Dan said you're down 24, 21. I know you want to be aggressive and I know you want to make a statement. Tie the game, but not the game.

Not only tie the game, tie the game because you've, your defense actually did figure it out in the second half. You did it.

Alabama score point.

Yeah, I score point.

I, I came away from this game not thinking that Kirby Smart it continues to be an Alabama problem for him. I came away from this game saying Alabama played a hell of a game. Their quarterback. I, I feel like we watched their quarterback become a man. Tyson are very eyes. Ty Simpson had a great game and.

I also plays on third down as well.

Oh my God, the third down. That was, that was the most shocking thing because Kirby Smart that a Georgia defense should not be giving up those plays.

Yeah, yeah.

I also came away from this game thinking like I, I did not expect Georgia to blow him out ever. I, I thought that Alabama was going to compete because this is the exact game. If you, if you put on the Alabama uniform, you can run into trouble. If you're playing against Vanderbilt and, and you've got a bad coach, you can run into trouble. If you're playing an inferior opponent and you've got a coach that might not be the guy long term but if you're playing against Georgia, I think everybody on Alabama is going to get up for that game. I don't think that you're going to run into an effort problem, not Vandy anymore.

So that actually will be the test, I think.

Yeah.

I think if Alabama can, can beat Vandy like they step on their neck, should beat Vandy even though Vandy is the best Vandy it's probably ever been, that would be like, hey Alabama's, you know, everything's fine because I've looked back at week one and I'm. But I don't want to say obviously Florida State but like looking back at it, it's like that was a full season, full off season for Gus Malzahn to get prepared. He is an Alabama beater. Do we maybe, do we maybe overreact?

I don't think, myself included, I don't think we did overreact because at that point you had a Calyn Debord that went 9 and 4 in his first year with a playoff roster. He lost to the worst Oklahoma team in a decade. He lost to Vanderbilt. He lost games he shouldn't have lost. He lost to Michigan in the ball game and his first effort in a, in a year where he needs to go forward really quickly. His first effort was a 3,117 loss to a team that went to 10 last year and frankly a team that lost to Virginia the other night. So I'm not sold. At Florida State is great. I don't think we overreacted. I think that game might be a sign that the top of the SEC has come down to earth. If you look at Georgia and Tennessee, they were very even. Alabama and Georgia very even. Alabama goes out in Florida State and gets. Gets beat. I think the SEC is very deep.

But at the top.

Alabama is nowhere near what they were. Georgia is nowhere near what they were. Texas, the jury is still out, but I think the top of the SEC has really regressed and come down to everybody else.

Maybe Ole Miss, I don't think so. If we want to talk narratives, that's a game that Lane Kiffin always loses.

Ole Miss is a, is a good football team. They're ranked number four. I think that's preposterous at number four. And I think even Ole Miss fans, rational ones, would agree. Like they beat an LSU team who got a lot of credit for beating Clemson. LSU hasn't been good since the Clemson.

Game and really say Clemson was national.

Title worthy in the offseason. I was totally wrong about that. I meant I. And a lot of people whiffed on Clemson. I thought Kate Clubman was going to be good. Whatever. Clemson's trash. They're not good this year. And LSU just was, was not very good. If Ole Miss has some, some games in the second half of this schedule, if they're the number four team, if they're as good as they look, they're going to have to go to Oklahoma and win. They're going to have to go to Georgia and compete like there's, there's a lot going forward. I don't know that there's an elite. I'll just say this. I think there's three teams in the Big Ten better than any team in the SEC right now. I think it's Penn State, Oregon, Ohio State.

I'd agree with that.

And I think the SEC as far as the top end elite playoff contenders is down a step from where it was.

I'd agree with that.

You put Penn State in over anybody from the sec.

I absolutely would.

Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss, lsu, Texas.

We've seen Alabama on the road twice. They won a three point game at Georgia. They lost by two touchdowns at Florida State. We've seen Georgia on the road. They came back and beat Tennessee and they come home and they lose to an Alabama Team that is probably fine, but I don't think they're great.

It's weird because the top of the SEC hat, it feels like it has a lot of parody in it.

It's SEC is remarkably deep.

Yeah.

I think team one to team like 10 is. Is. Has potential to be good.

Yeah.

What about, like, Oklahoma is number five. Ole Miss is number four. I don't think Oklahoma is the fifth best team in the country. I just don't. They beat an Auburn team that the refs handed them the victory and they beat a Michigan team who had a freshman quarterback and didn't. Wasn't even interested in winning that game.

Yeah. Do they. Do they take account injuries into the top 25? Well, I guess it's a bunch of different voters.

The AP Top 25 is one of the bigger disasters we've ever had.

We got to fix that, right?

I actually do think we got to fix that.

You like that? It's bad.

It's good for conversation.

Exactly. What it's made for people. What is a list created for? A list is created for people to.

Get upset about, to stir up.

So if it was a perfect grouping of AP voters who always nailed it, it would be the most boring thing ever. We need bias. We need stupid people. We need that woman who's like, I'm not sharing my data in my formula. We need all of that because when you put a list on the Internet, you get. You're the king of lists, you know?

Yeah.

People go crazy for them.

No, I like that. It stirs up debate. And I am the king of being able to dispassionately just put out a list and step back and not get mad when somebody else makes a list. I looked at the AP Top 25 yesterday and almost made a video. I'm like, what the fuck are these people?

So they.

The list is working.

It's working.

They did the list on you.

What's the brand Walker top five.

So I got Ohio State number one. I think they're a clear number one right now. I have Oregon number two. I put it out last night. Miami, three. I don't know who I have for somebody. Oh, I got Alabama 4, because I just put them there. If they're going to go to Athens and win, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt for a minute, even though I do still kind of have some doubts. And then number five, I believe I had Notre Dame. No, I don't have. Oh, Texas. I got Texas, but we don't know. We don't know, there's so much we don't know still, but Texas, we're just kind of waiting on because they had the one game to start, they look bad, and now they just been nursing themselves back to life.

Brent, also, congratulations on a big loss for you on Saturday. You know, that was the best loss of the weekend.

You said that with a very condescending tone.

Is that in fact, like that doctor fiction?

I'm gonna defend you brain.

Mississippi State, Tennessee, overtime. That was the. That was the biggest loss of the week. I mean, like, the best.

You know, as a Commanders fan and I've seen you go emotionally through these things where you rationalize losses to yourself over the last few years. So for you to come at me like, this is crazy.

What you gotta do is you gotta wait for next week. And then obviously Tennessee loses next week. And you're like, see, we beat him up. Too bad.

That was one of the better losses in recent memory for us.

Yes.

Yeah.

A year ago at this exact week, we were non competitive in a 4114 loss to Toledo. Toledo is a fine Mac team, but they are a Mac team. We shouldn't be non competitive in a loss to them. Flash forward a year, we're four. No. I thought Tennessee was going to kill us. If you looked at the rosters, if you looked at the lines of scrimmage, Tennessee was towering over us, and we just took it to him. Fluff Bothwell can run it. He's the best, can run it. Like we. We ran it down their throat for four quarters and we had them. We had them down seven with two minutes left. They had fourth and five. They end up making the play. They beat us. They're a legit top 10 to 12 team. I am very happy with where we are. So your condescension.

Yeah.

Was right. It was a great loss.

Right.

You like the words. You don't like the tone? I didn't like the tone, but congratulations, because I was.

But you can't say that. That's. That's where we go. Well, you can't. Congratulations.

You were happy.

You were okay with the loss.

I'm not. I'm not okay with the loss. I didn't. I wasn't happy with the loss, but I'm able to look at the loss in the context of where we were. And where we are is way better, I think.

Loser talk, I think.

Got to change that about you if you want to, but it's.

Right, It's. We're climbing a ladder.

Yeah.

You're still. You're happy with the loss. But you can't let him congratulate you.

You can't go from flat footed to being on top of a ladder you have to climb.

What if you just flip the switch?

There's no switch to ladders.

No, but there's the ladders you can just stand on. They just take you up.

That's an elevator. Yeah, or forklift. Yeah, we don't have a forklift in the sec.

Okay, what about maybe get an elevator?

There's not. I don't even know how many elevators in October county. Like six.

Well, you don't have hotels?

I don't know. You tell us.

We have several hotels.

Several? Oh yeah, several. They, they, they settle that at least seven or eight. We stayed at a not great hotel on Friday night.

We said that was a bad.

That was a bad hotel.

Yeah.

You could tell right away.

My wife is the sweetest, most easy going thing in the world. She's like this isn't great.

No.

And it was also like. I think you can tell it was weird because I was like maybe this hotel isn't that bad because they had a pantry closet that was stacked.

Yeah.

Like everything.

And a gym that looked good.

Gym and looked good. Not a great hotel.

When you step onto the elevator and the elevator sinks a little bit.

And it's only three floors.

Correct.

That's always a bad sign.

The elevator might made noise every, every floor.

Three floor elevator that takes about like 25 minutes to go one floor. Not a great sign.

Mm brain. I got a question for you about the Big Ten. About Indiana. Look ahead. Crystal ball.

You're respecting them.

Crystal ball. What happens after this weekend? Are we still talking about Indiana like they're a team that should be feared.

So what are the next three or four games? You got Indiana schedule up in front of you.

Let's see what their next three.

So Indiana, Indiana kills Illinois. Right. And it's great. It's fantastic. They did something they didn't do last year. They beat a ranked team.

So after obviously Oregon, they got Michigan State, then ucla, then Maryland, then Penn State.

Okay, so they're cruising for a while. Maryland's a little sneaky but. But listen, they are. There's nothing awe inspiring about what Indiana did at Iowa on Saturday. But I guess you can kind of chalk that up because to no visit to Iowa is ever pretty.

No, Iowa makes you play Iowa.

I heard I had a nasty rumor about Brandon Walker this weekend. On Saturday I was having. Having a nice brunch with your co host Mark Titus.

Sure.

And they did the tradition where they waved to the kids. Do you not like that tradition?

Oh, he hates it.

I do not hate that tradition.

Are you the only guy in the world?

Don't bring me on the number one sports podcast in the world and ask me.

Well, when Titus told me that, I was like, that's insane that he hates it. But then I try.

I do not hate that tradition. I try to think about why waving to sick kids is admirable, and it is a wonderful moment. And I.

And I.

And I almost tear up. I get the tingle, as Dan says, when I see it. However, my experience with the Iowa fan base in my life has been a nasty bunch of jackals that called my wife and tried to get her fired, that tried to get all my sponsors to drop me.

She deserved to be fired.

No, because she was married to me. And I said, I can't believe her.

Because there could be a chance.

Like, 2019.

Sometimes you get it right. Like, you took the wrong path, but you got it right. Like, maybe she was bad at her job. She deserved to be fired.

2019. I said, I can't believe we lost this game to Iowa. It's the slowest, widest team in the Big 12.

That was me.

Big 10. And they. They absolutely came at me and tried to ruin me and everything. And I. After a victory, Iowa fans were nasty and terrible. So what Iowa fans do now is they have this wonderful, incredible tradition where they wave, and, boy, do they make sure you know how great people they are for doing it. So that's my stance.

Okay. When I heard that we're not a fan of the Wave, I tried to put.

I didn't say I wasn't a fan of the Wave. This is crazy. He's. He's got you. Me in front.

I tried to put myself in your brain, save you.

I'm gonna save you. I'm. Throw you a rope.

You're not saving me, are you?

No.

I'm gonna sink myself. I'm. I'm trying to figure out how I'm gonna sink myself gracefully. When Ruckers did the drone thing, none of the kids in Iowa could see it. You're in New Jersey, correct?

Yeah.

Yeah, that was it.

And you know why Ruckers did that?

Yeah.

To make themselves feel good about themselves.

That was. I. Look, it was cool moment, but it's like, dude, no one. No one could see it.

I know a lot of bad people in the Iowa fan base who try to make themselves feel good and look good because of their participation in the.

Way it's a very nice thing. I, I almost tear up every time I see it.

It's beautiful.

I thought your take, I thought your take was going to be if you want to make those kids happy, score some points.

Yeah, I, I could have gone that way instead. I, I probably made it worse for myself.

Did you see the Rutgers one?

Pft.

I did see that, yeah.

What did you, did you initially, I, I hate that my brain initially went there, but I was like, you're in New Jersey. You, you can't, you can't see that.

I, I seven or eight states away.

Listen, I always tear up when I see drones also.

It's a Friday night there. All those sick kids probably in the bed.

I guess they could have shown him the video of it. That's kind of cool now that I'm thinking, now that I'm talking it out. They could have shown them.

I love aviation kids.

The six year old kid who's fighting for his life is like, what is, what is a Rutgers?

Yeah, probably, probably. I think Indiana's good.

I think Indiana is a very, they look very solid so far. I, I, my doubts about them last year were never about the team. It was about the fact that we just ignore the national media. Everybody ignored the fact that video was.

You got to stop with these videos. This is a little kid, like they're.

Sleeping and he's, it's, they got that spot because of their schedule.

It's an amazing thing that they do.

Jesus Christ, Max, stop. You're going to make me cry. It's fucking incredible.

There's nothing I can do now for the rest of this.

What I love is that like fucking incredible the players.

I'm going to cry right now.

I carried you to a trivia championship, man. I carried you to a championship and you do this to me.

You got me in some sort of panic room over here right now.

Brandon, just, I just carried you to a champ. I got you a ring.

I had a bad back.

Brandon.

My teammate's coach died.

Brandon. Yeah, Notre.

Dame.

I said to Notre Dame fans after week two, you're in the exact same spot that you were last year. Yeah, there's in by exact same spot, Northern Illinois. That loss was a, was two losses. As a joke, you can't lose another one after that. They lost to two potentially most likely college football teams, playoff teams in Texas. A and M and Miami. Close games, both of them.

I don't think A and M is a playoff team, but maybe the SEC is chaos.

The SEC kind of is the Big 12 this year.

Yeah.

Where it's just like we don't know. Ignored him. Is going to go to the playoff. I think they're going to. C.J. carr is the real deal. Yeah, I said that. I did that rant trying to reel Notre Dame fans back in because a lot of them were like seasons over. I think they're run the table. I think they're going to go to the playoffs.

Two things here, A Notre Dame is absolutely going to the playoff.

Yeah.

Number two, they're not nearly as good a team as they were last.

No. But they also are kind of figuring it out because Arkansas, I know that game got away. And what Notre Dame did offensively was incredible. But the sneaky part is Arkansas's offense is really good. Taylor Green, they shut him down.

Yeah, they shut him down. They dominated Arkansas. They absolutely killed him. They're going to put it together over these next eight weeks as they have a schedule that nurses them back to health like they had last year. But they, they have a good offense. I love C.J.

Carr.

I love the running back. I love the receiver. Great house. I love, I love so much about Notre Dame. But at the end of the day, they're going to make the playoff and that defense is going to hold them back. Yeah, but they're going playoffs.

Their season is like they're going to.

Go 10 and 2 and they're going to playoff.

There was doom and gloom and it was like you're. This is just a Groundhogs day of last year.

They also lost. This is why when they were 02 and still ranked, I didn't have a problem with that one because they lost a one point game on a missed extra point to Texas A and M and with a bad call on the 4th and 11 and they lost a three point game on the road against Miami. I think Miami's very, very good. So, like I have no problem with Notre Dame being ranked after they were 02 and I have no problem saying right now they're going to go 10 and 2 and go to the playoff.

When you're doing the official Brandon Walker rankings, do you rank them based on resume or do you rank them based on which team would beat other teams?

I base it on what I need to base it on in that moment. For some teams it's resume. For some teams it's just how I feel about them.

I like it.

And there's no insight into your algorithm.

You know what you got to say when people get mad about it?

Yeah.

You say my rankings remain fluid.

That is what that's what I always fluid. I'm not like water there and go into my logic or my process. Yeah. Those are my rankings. Like Oklahoma, technically, right now, they have a win over Auburn. They have a win over Michigan. I don't think either of those teams are any good. Oklahoma's number five in the country. I think that's poppycock. I think they should be like number 12.

I think poppy. That's the first time poppycock has ever been set on this.

I've been trying to work poppycock into the rotation a lot lately.

It didn't really land like you thought it did.

You went, oh.

Because it's a ridiculous thing.

Is that.

No, it landed. Don't act like that didn't.

Well, it was a hard land rp.

Yeah.

Poppycock landed.

Is that what you say when you whip out your. Your dick? We actually in the middle of the night to take a look.

No, no. Damn. That's like that.

Let's BLEEP that.

I don't want that standing on the tarmac and. And said, oh, wow, a lot of trouble there.

I don't want what word he just said to be out there.

You.

You waved the plane in and then. And brought to a stop and you're like, oh, you didn't land. That's bullshit what you just did.

There's nobody that stands on the. On the Runway that waves the plane in, you idiot. There's somebody up in air traffic control that guides them in. There's nobody on the Runway. They get run over by a plane.

Let me. Let me. They're on the tarmac then.

Excuse me. No, they're not on the tarmac.

Well, there's somebody out there doing this to play.

That's when the. When the plane's taxiing after.

So they've already landed. And then they tax them in. Yeah, but that Dan still taxiing them in and telling the park. And then you do this. I did that for two years, buddy. I was. I was on the tarmac.

That's poppycock.

That's hogwash as hogwash.

Working on hogwash and poppycock.

Talk to me about.

About the U. Yeah, I think they're real good.

They're another one. That's like. We're going to find out a lot this weekend.

We are. This is a very dangerous and scary spot for him. Alabama already went there and lost. And this is a team that everything's been going well so far. Everything's going great. But it's not a team historically who has weathered the highs and lows of season or the slings and arrows of a season like they, they can get tripped up. I like them. I like their defensive line. I like Bain. I like their, their weapons they put together. Offensively, I love Carson Beck, but this is terrifying to go to a desperate Florida State team.

So I might be over leveraged in, in the U in my futures. I've got Carson Beck to win the Heisman Trophy. And then I also took a flyer on Bain because it feels like there's, there's nobody that separated themselves just yet at the quarterback position.

No. His quarterback's kind of, kind of been running in mud this, this season so far. It's not been very exciting.

A great defensive lineman put up some numbers maybe.

Possibly I'd watch for a receiver or running back to possibly break through to.

Like Jeremiah Smith is lurking.

All the receivers and running backs are lurking. If any running back can put up like a 230 or a 250, somebody's going to grab go far.

Speaking about Smith, the, the game against Washington this weekend, it felt like Ohio State was kind of stuck in mud. They got stuck in a rock fight in the first half.

Yeah.

And then kind of. They were clearly the better physical team and they just kind of wore Washington.

Play with their food a little bit.

I think, I think that was almost intentional because it was saying's first road start and they're like, hey, let's not our defense. Their defense is awesome.

Lights out.

It's lights out. Are they better than last year?

I can't say they're better than last year.

I could if you wanted to. Look, I'll say it. Ohio State's better this year than last year.

But. Do you believe it?

No, but I said it.

I can't make myself right now. Hold on, let me try.

This Ohio State team is better than last year.

Yeah, there you go.

That was. That came out easy.

Undefeated against Michigan so far.

Okay. I could say it easily. I don't think I could believe. Make myself believe it. The team had two crazy hiccups where they lost the one point game in Oregon and then did whatever they did against Michigan. That mental thing got them. But they got to play. That was a historic. We'll never see a run like that in a playoff again where they beat four teams like that by double digits or three teams, whatever it was. Four teams, right?

Yeah.

I mean they barely beat Texas and Texas might suck.

Texas this year.

This year.

Yeah.

I mean I thought it was. Again, that was easing into the pool though, that offense. They were not that offense. They Were running against Texas. They were just, they got the lead and they kind of just stayed.

Yeah. I think you're going to see Ohio open up gradually or to take off. Like you even saw it in that.

Game saying is ready to take the next step.

Right. And you saw in that game when they're like, oh yeah, Jeremiah Smith. Let's do, let's do the Jeremiah Smith play.

Yeah.

And they'll do that.

Yeah, we need, we need to go and get six.

Really good too.

Go ahead and get six. Let's give him the Jeremiah.

When Smith got the ball, it's like, oh, that guy's just way faster than everybody right on the field. They should do that more.

Yeah.

And they will.

Yeah. I think, I think they're easily the best team in the country right now. I think their defense is outstanding, but I just, I'm just not ready to say they're better than last year.

Do you buy Bryce Underwood? I kind of do.

I buy stock for the future. I don't buy him with Jerome Moore as his head coach. Oh, I think Sharon Moore is a very good head football coach.

Why?

And I, he's just. You saw when we to. To get Bryce running they had to be coached by Biff.

Yeah, Biff.

Biff's the guy that said, hey, let's run. And we got this guy who's a one of a kind unicorn. Why don't we use him? And meanwhile, every time Sherrone Moore's at the, at the controls, it's. He's a pocket passer. That's absurd.

I agree.

And he's also an 18 year old. An 18 year old kid or 18 year old freshman. His running game is going to be ahead of his passing game right now. Why are you making him process defenses? Let him use his athleticism.

Yeah, I agree with all that.

I'm buying stock in him though.

He's always great. He's going to be great. The stock has to be through the roof though. Like this is a five star quarterback, number one quarterback in the country. He's.

I took like a minor dip at the start of the year.

He's a, he's a Heisman trophy caliber quarterback in year two or three.

Yeah.

Can we talk openings?

Yeah, we can talk openings. Can we talk about the Arkansas opening first?

Well, no, I was going to ask you what your favorite opening was.

I love. Are you looking for some sort of bodily pun here?

I asked you a question.

Arkansas is my favorite opening right now.

Because I was going to say vagina.

It was clearly engineered. It Was clearly engineered from Bobby Petrino. Just pulled a couple.

Yeah, he did.

He fired all the defensive guys and.

Nobody'S talking about it.

Yeah.

Bobby Petrino, the guy who 10 years ago was in a neck brace with his face got asphalt all over it, and he resigns in shame because he's been fucking somebody. And then he goes off and tries and has to do a new career. Two years ago, dumbass Sam Pittman says, hey, man, come on back to Arkansas. Help me get this thing in the right direction. And Bobby's like, oh, yes, sir. Comes in.

Yeah.

And immediately starts making plans to take over. I guarantee you, Bobby Petrino, if you asked him right now, are you the interim coach at Arkansas? Are you the coach at Arkansas? Yeah, he's going to say, I'm the coach at Arkansas. He fired three defensive assistants. Remember, he was an assistant three days ago.

Yeah.

And he's immediately firing assistance. What an asshole.

Our defensive staff.

What a fucking asshole.

We. But we knew he was an asshole.

It's a very funny move that he pulled off. And he pulled it off perfectly. He had maybe the. If you were to draw up a guy in a lab that you could engineer a coup from under. Yeah, it's probably Sam Pitt.

Yeah. Sam Pittman is the most oblivious to coups in the world.

Well, he also wanted to get fired. He, like, I. I wasn't there a story that he basically went to them and being like, hey, you want to just do this before the season started? Like, you owe us a lot of money. His agent was like, you owe me a lot of money. You owe Sam Pittman a lot of money. Let's just. Let's just do this now.

Fired head coach in college football is the best job in the entire world.

Yep.

By the way, I would have said my favorite opening. Kevin Spilling the Chill.

Really?

It's great.

Cold opening. Yeah, I like. I like the. The Backstreet boys song on Brooklyn. Nine.

Nine.

Okay.

Where they do. I want it that way.

Not familiar with that one.

Cold open.

Let's say, hypothetically, Bobby Petrino is not going to stick around.

Yeah, he's sticking around.

He's gonna. They'll have.

Yeah, he's gonna. He's already got. Yeah, he's got his. His claws in there.

There's a lot of money.

Quite true. Moving into Michael's office and painting the walls black already.

Yeah, there's a lot. A lot of money.

They win a couple games. Sticking around.

Yeah.

And I assume they probably will. Yeah, they're not. They got the quarterback. They got a Decent roster.

Yeah.

Paints the walls milky white, sticky, viscous. So let's say hypothetically, he's not the coach, though.

Yeah.

What are the guys that Arkansas is going to look at? Because they got a ton of money. The Walmart money, chicken money.

But they don't.

The Jerry Jones money just saved a bunch of money on Micah Parsons.

I think Rhett Lashley, smu. Smu went to the playoff last year. He's an Arkansas guy. Went to Arkansas. I think he played at Arkansas. Like Rhett Lashley is where it probably starts. G.J. kenny from. I always get North Texas, Texas State confused. He's from Texas State.

They're.

They're going to look at guys all over and that. That footprint and everything, but Lashley is probably the number one guy. And they'll say. They'll say John Gruden and they'll say all these big names, but I think Red Lash is probably the one that got circled.

What about Florida?

John Sumrall, by the way, is another one.

Yeah.

Two Lane to the sec. He's going from two Lane to the sec. Whether it's Kentucky, Arkansas, wherever it is, he's definitely got an SEC job next year. Florida. Florida is interesting, right? Like Florida to me should be Lane Kiffin. They should do everything in their power to get Lane Kiffin. He's a national championship coach at a place that probably can't win a national title. He's. They're very good, and I'm not taking a shot at Ole Miss. But Florida is a place that can win a national title in the next three to five years. But Lane hasn't shown the desire to really get out of there. So he might be. He might be settled in. I look at drink at Missouri if I'm Florida, I think drink every. Lane's getting the credit for what he's done at Ole Miss. Drink has done the exact same thing. He went 11 and two beat Ohio State game a couple of years ago. He went. He just missed the playoff last year. I think they were nine and three. I think they're a playoff team this year. Drink at Florida could be a menace. I know a lot of people say Jed Fish at Washington because he's got Florida ties.

I don't think he's one enough to do it.

No.

I would go Lane or drink if I, if I have my, my, my wishes at Florida. And I'm Scott Strickland, the ad. I would start with Lane if he says no, which I think he probably will, and then I'd go to drink.

Did you Bury Dabo.

I. I haven't buried Dabo. I have. I don't know what I've done with Dabo.

I think that Dabo is trying to bury himself. No. Well, yeah, maybe. But I saw that whole rant that he did where he's like, you guys are spoiled. All this stuff. I don't know if he said spoiled. I get between Barry Alvarez and Brian Kelly. Everyone's saying spoiled these days. But pretty much like, we've won, we suck this year. We might go 6 and 6. Would dabble get a premier job? I don't think he would.

So can I go backwards again? Can I go backwards again?

Would.

And when I say premiere, I'm saying a top of like, Florida.

Let's use Florida. Let's use Florida. I just said drink. I just said Lane. If you're Florida and you fly into Greenville, South Carolina and you haven't meet you in the private plane and you say Dabo, I'm willing to give you this job. If you embrace the transfer portal, if you change what you're doing, if I know that you've got a national championship coach in you, if you will meet these two things, transfer portal nil. And fully embrace it and unlock the potential of Florida. I think he would be an incredible fit at somewhere like Florida because he has. He thrived in the last era of college football. If he just tweaked his recipe to cook with the ingredients that modern college football has, I think you'd be that coach again. Why? If you're Florida, keep in mind, the last couple of times they've put out a help wanted sign at Florida. They haven't exactly been beating the door down to come coach at the University of Florida. They have. They got ull's coach, they got Mississippi State's coach one time. They got Central Michigan's Coach, they got McElwain, they got Mus Champ. Like, this isn't a job that people are beating down the door to get.

What if, what if Dabo? There's a little bit of, you could say like analogies here with Belichick in the fact that Belichick, by all intents and purposes wanted to.

Or.

But by everything we've.

We've read wanted to stay in the NFL.

Yeah.

Was, went and did meetings was like, it's my way or the highway. This is how I'm doing it. I've won the Super Bowls. This is how I do it. I'm going to not going to change. I'm going to be the same guy. Had to go to college football. What about Dabo Sweeney coaching the Miami Dolphins? Dolphins, that would be so funny. He would pass.

He would hate.

No, I, I don't want that. Rah rah in the NFL, man. I don't want that.

What if every college dude's like, no, dude, you won't do the transfer role. He's like, you know what? I'm going to the.

You know, I know he's not modernizing his game, but he is the most college football guy.

Never see him.

He's like, but that would be awesome.

He's like a small town warlord but. And he controls everything. He's great when he does it. But yeah, you go to the. He would retire before Nick Saban retired at Miami.

If you're the Florida AD and you're sitting there, or even Arkansas AD or Oklahoma State AD and you're sitting there talking to Dabo and you say, and Dabo convinces you, he says, listen, I know why I went wrong at Clemson. The game changed. I didn't change with it. I thought I'd keep doing what I was doing at Florida. I'm going to be, I'm going to be Mr. Transfer Portal. I'm going to be Mr. Nil. Don't you give him a shot?

I mean, I actually think Oklahoma State should.

I just don't think he'll change.

I don't think, I think that's like the perfect school for.

But that's not a premier job.

Yeah, but it's content. Him changing his contention on him, him taking a job is contention on him changing. If he sits down with ads, says I'm not going to change, they're not going to hire him.

Well, I also think he might say he's going to change, but he's not going to change.

Well, then that's a different story entirely.

I think that's a very good. But why wouldn't he.

He's the biggest bullshit artist in the world. You think he can't sit with somebody and convince them he's going to change?

I don't think he'd even say that though. I think, I think he's, he's so.

On record he's going to have to sit back and realize there's a reason this thing went wrong. He's trying to recruit from high school and develop. Well, the problem is if you recruit from high school and develop and the players don't turn into something, you're stuck with bad players, you're stuck with disappointing players. If you don't have a coaching staff that he used to have with Brent Venables that can develop the players. You better go out and get finished products right now like Miami's doing, like Ole Miss is doing, and he won't do it.

Should LSU panic?

Yeah, LSU should panic. LSU's got the wrong coach. LSU, LSU's had the wrong coach the whole time. No matter. They beat Clemson and everybody put them up to the top five, including myself. I'm like, wow, what an impressive road went. Clemson's fallen apart. They're 1 and 3. LSU hasn't looked good since. Brian Kelly does not fit LSU football.

You did not see, you did not see the very last run play of the game.

What? What? What very last. By the way, at the end of that game, I was actually. I was an absolute hell.

That was three weeks ago. I'm talking about the, the last run play when Brian Kelly.

Oh, when he ran the ball.

Question the ball pretty good.

Yeah.

I don't know, man. I just think Brian Kelly doesn't fit. And no matter what happens, if he wins the next six games, as soon as he loses the seventh, the fan base is going to turn on him again because they don't like him. They pretend to like him when he's winning. When things are okay, they don't like him. And I don't think he likes them.

I don't think anyone likes him.

No, he's not a likable guy.

Oh, he's. He's the most unlikable guy that there is.

And you guys know, you guys have been there. Like, LSU thrives on who its coaches.

Yeah.

They thrive on. On, on him being one of us or us rallying behind him.

Yeah.

And they don't like this motherfucker.

You can be a fucking idiot and they'll love you.

Yeah.

Like that.

Smiles. He won in spite of himself so much. And they loved him because they're going.

To take care of the recruiting. They're going. Every. Every five star in Louisiana is raised to be an LSU Tiger. Every four star is raised to be an LSU Tiger. As long as you don't actively fuck it up, you're going to be fine. And I just don't think he is.

Yeah.

All right, good talk. Brandon, I got a couple of questions, actually. Have you.

This is Tell if you're in the interview.

I'm not.

Interview.

I'm not. I got a question kind of out of left field. Have you looked at Washington State's schedule?

No. I know they play. It's bizarrely. At Ole Miss in a couple of weeks.

It's like the most chaotic college football schedule that I've ever seen.

Can. Can y' all just never ask me about Oregon State and Washington State? Because it makes me sad.

Well, here's.

It makes me sad. There's two places that should be okay in football and should be.

Yeah.

Some conference should have thrown them a life raft and said, come on over here. We know that it went wrong for you guys, but come on over here. I don't. I don't like them floating in the. In the. Yeah, but who knows they're going to link up.

It's weird. Hope they're playing against Ole Miss. They're going on the road to Mississippi. They're playing at Virginia. They play Oregon State twice.

Yeah.

They've got two games against Oregon State. They should do it. Like. Like aggregate score.

Yeah.

Like in the epl.

It's so weird that we're just marching on in college football without those two programs. Those programs are just doing weird shit like playing twice. They exist in a. They're technically playing college football, but they're not playing the same game.

Isn't there going to be a new Pack 12 with the mountain West?

It's coming. It's coming. But once you. Once you. Once the toothpaste is out of the tube, how do you put it back? Oh, I agree.

It's. It's. It's fucked up.

And so many of these schools that they're playing because I feel bad for.

Their staff and they're going to be 10 years behind. Nobody wants to go play Washington State. Oregon State, currently, they're going to be 10 years behind everybody else.

All right, I got one last question for you, Brandon, because it's kind of off of this conversation. Rollback question. Rhobac.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q, Zips, Polos, Hoodies, Joggers, Shorts. Roback.com promo code, take. We are in year two of the 12 team playoff. I think it's working.

I think it's absolutely work.

I like that, like, and I know there will be people. Like, there's a lot of things that have changed about college football. I am very nostalgic about college football. 20 years.

Yeah.

Washington State, Oregon State. Being that I missed the Pac 12, there's a lot of shit that's happened that I don't agree with. There's probably more shit coming that is going to suck. I like the fact that we saw Penn State and Oregon, like, go at each other and it's not the end of Penn State. I like that Notre Dame is going to get another chance to be back in this thing.

I love a world where we see Penn State lose that game and 10 years ago that would have been crushing. It would have been over and it's September 27th and all the hope is sucked out of the building. Well, now they don't have. I mean they're, they're kind of allergic to hope right now because every time they get to a big game. But yeah, they're going to have a second chance to put this thing back together and get back in it. Ohio State last year had one of the most embarrassing losses we've ever seen and then lost an incredible run through the playoff. It was awesome. I love the fact that these elite teams, really, every team has a chance to, to right the ship after something goes horribly wrong. I think the playoff is great. I think 16 is going to be the perfect number 12's okay. But last year the one thing we got to fix is last year we had a couple teams get in there just because their schedule.

Yeah.

And if we can tweak that and figure that out down the road and truly get the 12 best teams at the end of the season, that'd be great. I love the 12.

The big complaint that I've seen is that it gives.

I think it makes season better, by the way. Right.

I do too. I do too. Because you have these big weekends and you get into November where it's like a two loss team playing a two loss team. That game wouldn't have mattered at all. Now it could be everything. You get more games that feel like they matter going up leading up to the playoffs. The one complaint that I understand is you will have the same four or five teams win the national championship every year. Because you give a team like Ohio State a second shot, a third shot last year.

But we had that anyway.

What's the difference?

We had that. Always had it turns out the elite teams are going to win the championship. Correct. And that's how it's going to happen. But now you're never going to get.

The parody that you have in the NFL and college football. And the fact that there's never going to be a team that starts in the 50s is like, oh, they won a title.

But that's just how it is. That's how it's always how it's always been. So it's always going to be in November 2014. I'm taking a random year. First year of the playoff. Probably had six huge games in November of last year. Probably 25.

Yeah.

And this Year, it's more wide open. I think we'll probably have 30 huge games.

And getting to the playoff is going to be for a lot of these schools, like winning a national title. Like if Wisconsin ever gets the playoff, I'm like, that was the coolest thing ever.

Yeah. I think Indiana, like last year, that's such a great story. Indiana making the playoff. Ole Miss is a good example.

They're number four.

And if Ole Miss makes the playoff, that's a huge fucking thing for them. Like, this is. It's okay. There's more seats at the table. There's more chances for everybody to come away happy. And it. You whittle. I'm glad. Who was the best team in college football last year?

Ohio State.

I'm glad their season wasn't over when they lost a message.

But not as good as Ohio State this year.

Don't think so. They were. They were the best team. They won the national title. And if people want to be moan that sorry, they were the best team.

They do just need to get more games at home stadiums. The second round should also be.

You think it should? Yes, all the way.

I think it strips it so much when you play those. Like, what was it? Boise and Penn State playing in Arizona.

Yeah.

Yeah. But here's the thing. Did we have any good games on campus last year? No, none of them were good.

That was the first round. The first round is going to be tough.

Wasn't Boise at Boise?

No, Boise. Boise was in. They had to buy.

Boise had to buy. That's right.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But that's. I do think it should be two. Two rounds at campus because there's nothing. The one thing that college football has that will always beat the NFL is the home environment on a Saturday.

So the home games last year were SMU at Penn State.

Yeah.

Clemson at Texas.

Yep.

Indiana at Notre Dame.

Yep.

Which is incredible. Like, scene. And Ohio State and Tennessee.

Ohio State and Tennessee. And that was a cool scene, too.

That was very cool.

None of the games were close.

None of the games are close. But they have. You know what I'm saying? Like that's. That's the specialness. Like what the NFL is always be king. But what we saw at Happy Valley on Saturday night and in between the hedges, Ole Miss, like, you can't replicate those type of Saturdays.

Yeah.

And it's something special about on campus, so.

Oh, you're right. More of that would be better. And I think when we go to 16, you could even. You could have two. Two rounds at home and still have. Whatever.

So who's in your. If the playoff were today, Is that different from your top 12 list?

Yeah, that's a little different. I don't know. I think there's so much we don't know still. Like when. When I do a ranking and people are wondering, hey, why is Texas number five? Who have they beaten and beating anybody? They haven't beaten anybody. But let's. Let's call a spade a spade here. They had one game on the road against Ohio State and then they had their four nobodies. A lot of teams had their four nobodies to begin with. They had their four nobodies and now they start back really building up again. I think Texas, the defensive talent on that team is crazy. I think they've spent the last month of the season getting ready. I'm just speculating on. You're still speculating on so many teams in the top 10.

Is now the time? Are you still buying Texas Tech stocks?

Oh, I think if you haven't bought it by now, you waited too late. I think they're clearly the best team in the Big 12.

It's too late to buy that stock.

I think they are clearly the best team in the Big 12. TCU. I would have given a chance. They went second. Best team is probably Arizona State, who lost to Mississippi State, but has won two in a row on the road at Baylor and then beating TCU at home. But I think Texas Tech outclasses everybody in that conference by a mile.

Agreed.

And they got a tough one this week. Listen, Houston's quietly.

Fritz, Willie.

Fritz, good coach. So. So Texas Tech's got a sneaky tough one, but I think the amount of talent they went out and bought and you know, that used to be an insult and calling somebody a cheater, but now it's a badge of honor.

Yeah.

Good for them. Good for them.

Congrats to their alumni.

They went out and changed. Change their paradigm, changed who they are. And they're now, I think they're the easily best team in the Big 12.

Yeah. All right.

Okay. Brandon. Brandon Walker.

So I just got through the whole interview for Nelly. Never came in.

Never came in.

Nobody came in.

Nope.

There was no surprise. Now, is there a Fournelli filter on my face?

No. He is probably going to say tomorrow. Yeah, you would be correct.

What are you about to say? Don't say it. Just don't say it. What if he just didn't say it? What if he just didn't say that he turned this down?

He would be correct in Saying that he turned it down. And then you came on.

But we're.

But it wasn't. It was kind of. It was fluid. It was like your rankings. It's fluid.

Let's be honest. Water. Let's. Let's be honest. God's watching right now.

He had a busy schedule today. We have a busy schedule.

We have the yak. We have the yak at noon. We had this. We had this interview at 2:00'. Clock. You asked me to do this at 11:45. As you were just. You just walked out the door, said, hey, do PMT today. I said, okay for Nelly. Really turned it down.

Well, he didn't turn it down. He said. I said to him, hey, can you come on today? And he said, I'm free. Between 12 and 2 and 3 and 6. The only time we had was between 2 and 3. So, you know, best ability is available.

I won this. I won this ability. I won this last year. I had a competition against him.

Who'd you have that won the championship last year?

I don't remember how I won it. I just know I won it. I don't think I know Ohio State.

Did you?

Almost certainly.

Almost certainly.

Almost certainly.

I don't know that you did.

I killed him in that playoff.

No, this is this year. You're looking at this year.

Last year I had Ohio State and I won the championship.

That was yours. That was your pick.

I won, didn't I?

You did win.

You did win. I won, motherfucker.

As I won. Dingers Only.

Yeah, you win. You're a winner.

Yeah.

Pft. Didn't you offer $1,000 cash to the winner of Dingers Only?

You did.

You're a great winner. You're also the best loser.

How do you feel about your. Your picks this year for this competition?

Yes, your picks.

I'm not even worried about it until.

You actually have some good value. You have Penn State, Texas, Notre Dame, lsu. I gave you Texas, Oregon late. Oh, you're looking good. He falls off a cliff. Boise State, Baylor, Missouri's A and M.

And Texas Tech late, though.

Yeah. Yeah.

Tom has Ohio State, Clemson out, Georgia, Miami. That's a good pick. Alabama, Michigan, Utah, Texas A and M and Texas Tech with the last.

I mean, listen, once it was a draft, once you get past like seven or eight, it's. It's tough.

Well, it looks like he had a M at 8. That's pretty good.

He also got Texas attack at 13.

Great draft. And I think we were giving you.

Wow.

And I gave you Texas. It says right There. PFT put Brandon on Texas.

No, it doesn't say that. It says also PFT's pick.

Yeah, I gave you Texas.

So after I said Texas, you were like, me too.

I said, I'll put you on some game. You said, Texas might be good this year.

They were number two in the country. No, they were season number one.

I told you about Texas.

I appreciate that. You said the team that made the playoff two years ago. That might still be true.

Yeah, that is true. How do you feel about field storming?

Are we still doing this?

Yeah.

I have one last question. Were you concerned has field storming?

I'm a little concerned that that was the greatest field storming ever and it might lead to field storming being pulled back entirely.

Did you see that one Twitter account, SEC fan who they hypothetically win field storming, too? They're like, if this happened to the. Like, everyone would have been dead.

We got fine.

Hypothetically, they win those.

I love that they got fined $500,000 for. For a field storm that was nowhere even close to that. If they were in the SEC, they would get fined like $2 million.

Yeah.

Where do they get fine in the ACC?

I have. I don't even know. I haven't seen anything.

Virginia's never had this problem before.

No.

They're like, hey, you. You haven't been here. We gotta let you.

Good for you guys.

Yeah.

The protocol on that. Yeah.

They just sacrificed the Florida State receiver who disappeared into the crowd.

Yeah.

Squirrel.

What?

White.

Was that Squirrel White?

Was Squirrel White?

Yeah.

Okay, well. Yeah, he's been around long enough.

All right.

Thank you, Brandon.

Yep.

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Okay, let's finish off. We have guys on shicks. Hank.

My fiance, has a work phone and his normal phone. Before he got his job, he screenshots his bets with his work phone. And checks the box score on his normal phone while we watch the games. His hands are double fisting iPhone like it's Bonnie Blue does dicks on Thursdays, Sundays and Mondays. Is this behavior I have to expect throughout our marriage, even when kids come into play? Thanks, boys. Go Saints.

What are the two phones for again?

One is for the box score of the game. The other is for the bets that he currently has in. I think. I think that's. It's fair. I also think that this is probably not written by a girl. I was about to say.

Yeah, Yeah.

I think double fisting iPhones like Bonnie Blues does.

Like, I think it's written by a dude being like, I'm gonna write to them, pretend to be a chick and talk about dicks, so then they'll want to fuck me as a chick.

We need more chicks to write in.

Yeah, we need more chicks to write in. I would say also, you don't really need the box score because if you use DraftKings. Wonderful. DraftKings.

They.

It updates it as it goes.

Yeah, you can track it.

You can track it right there. Also, I like writing my bets out. It's fun.

It's nice to have on a piece of paper.

Yeah.

Just looking at it.

Or a whiteboard.

Or a whiteboard.

Yeah.

Which never hits.

I mean, we never hit the white.

No, I don't think. I don't actually. Have we ever hit the whiteboard? No, no.

You know, actually, I think maybe one.

Hit one last year, I think, once.

Yeah.

Let's do one that we can hit it. Let's win one.

Yeah.

Okay, here's a theory. The super bowl halftime show is solely a thing to make Super Bowl Sunday more peaceful for the boys. It allows them to make a full day out of the super bowl as if it's a holiday. Because girls love the halftime show so much. Think about any other Sunday during the season. No halftime show, no pregnant Rihanna. And the girls are nowhere near as willing to allow absolutely nothing to happen besides watching football.

The Brazil game had a halftime show show.

Yeah.

Shout out, Mr. Beast.

I also.

I also think the halftime show is irrelevant for that. I think everyone watches the super bowl and makes a holiday out of it.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

Also, pft.

You. You. You were.

You were correct in record time. Sage Steel looked through some bad, bad Booni and she found some demonic stuff.

Oh, did she? Oh, yeah, dude. You have to find satanic stuff in the halftime show. That's.

Oh, yeah.

That is actually the super bowl for schizophrenic people.

Yeah.

It is. That's what they live for. For my panics. Josh Allen, Mass Stafford.

Hey, pmt.

So I've gotten really into football the last couple years. Do you think my boyfriend is bothered by this? Sometimes I feel like I'm invading his world and that guys don't actually like girls that like sports. I think you guys love to mansplain sports to us.

Well, yes, duh. Yeah, we love to mansplain everything.

We like sharing common interests. As long as we can teach you something about that common interest. As long as we feel like we. We have our claims staked on it already.

A foundational piece of every relationship is a man answering questions they don't actually know the answer to and a woman just being like, okay, that's a foundational piece. Like, there. There are many times where I just get asked a question and I'll give an answer because that's just my natural. I have to give an answer even if I have no idea I'm taking a wild guess pass and then just moving on.

Yeah, if, like, if a girl said, did you see that Jaden Daniels has the highest quarterback rating in NFL history for a second year player through this many games? I would be like, that is so hot. But then if a girl was like, let me explain to you the numbers that go into quarterback rating. I would feel so emasculated, I would never want to look at it.

No. Yeah.

Any of the nuance. I'm getting that. But the most recent one I got from my oldest was. He was like, why. Why are sharpies called sharpies when they're not sharp? And I was like, fuck, dude, that one. I almost just drove off the side of the road. Can't answer that one.

But yeah.

Do they feel sharp in your ears, Max?

I always play with this Sharpie. I don't know what that is.

I think, yeah, girls like in football is awesome.

Yeah, it's great.

You just got to let. Like I said, you just got to let us answer some questions that we don't know the answer to and be okay with being like, yeah, that makes sense. Even though it doesn't.

Yeah.

Like nothing. Nothing makes a guy hotter than being like, actually, you can't advance that fumble. I know you're excited about it for a second, but that's coming back.

Yeah.

All right then. Last one meme said. Read this one last if you want to have fun with it.

Oh, okay. Finish us off.

This is the question.

Yeah.

Do you guys think double penetration is gay? I mean, technically it is, right? Love you guys.

It's. We're talking about B and V. Like two Ds.

Yeah.

Two D and the V and a.

D and the A. Yeah. D and the V. D and the A. That's what I'm saying. Or two D's in the V. Oh, like. Like you're starting to fire.

Oh.

Either one.

No.

Two Ds in the V. No.

So that's a one DV.

Yeah, that's.

There's not.

There's.

There's enough room.

There's some holes that are 1D.

Yeah.

This is also just like a comp. This is like if we. We started talking about what it, you know, would be like to play in the NFL. Like, we're not guys that will ever be in the same stratosphere as any of this.

That's. It's a whole different type of guy that.

Yeah.

Is out there doing D and V and DNA at the same time. Yeah, that's. Yeah. I. I don't think I've ever found myself in a situation where I've come anywhere close to even thinking about that was gonna happen.

And I would say, no, thanks.

Yeah.

I'd be like, can maybe. Maybe me and you could just do it.

Yeah, maybe I'll just go D and V and then you can just do whatever you want after it.

Yeah.

There are a lot of dudes that. That do the DNA or DNM and DNV at the same time. That also has never been.

No, no, not even close. Not even close. It's just porn talk.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Somebody woke up this morning just wrote that in.

Yeah.

Yeah. Call me old fashioned. I like a little bit of intimacy.

Yeah. Yeah.

Get your girlfriends right in. Tend to any girl you know.

All right.

Too many guys.

Right.

Our memes are if you're a girl who listens.

Yes.

Yeah. Yeah.

It was just. That was a bad way.

That's misogynistic.

That was not nice. That was bad. I know.

If.

If it was ever an apologize, I apologize.

Numbers three. Oh. How do we not get that?

I might have.

No.

Ah, nah, man, he got that one.

I actually might be rooting for memes today.

22.

I think I'm rooting for memes today.

75.

I need a win.

33.

61, 14.

1999.

PO 76. If I was in a double D situation, I just know I'd like. I try to cut the tensioner with a joke that would just ruin the whole mood. Just be like, I'm trying me hardest.

Yeah.

So close.

Love you guys.

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