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Max versus Hank. The Philadelphia 76ers have won the play-in game against the Orlando Magic.

It was a decisive victory.

I, I gotta say, um, so I'm in a little bit of a spot because I, I've said this before many times that I do— I, I think the play-in play-in. I hate the play-in in terms of its, like, existence, that we've now made it 10 teams get a shot and owners can cling to the fact that they were the 10th team and they got a playoff, you know, they played in the playoffs, all that. The games themselves do rock.

Yeah.

And they— it is funny, fun watching an elimination game, which we watched with the Clippers and Warriors, which you can get to. But now the Sixers are officially in.

I actually— I I agree. I think in theory the play-in game is— it's a crock of shit. It's a gimmick that was— it was dreamed up to give the owners one more home game and make you think that if you finish in 10th place, you have a shot at winning the NBA title, which you don't. But I think that once you get in, I don't like the people policing the teams and fans celebrating winning the play-in game.

Right.

Like, I think that— I think that's a good thing. Like when we had the T-Wolves win it a couple of years ago.

It depends on— I think it's organization by organization. Like Hornets.

Hornets. Yes.

Celebrate the fuck out of it. Of that. You guys have had— and they're not even in yet. We'll know on Friday night if they're officially, officially in.

Right.

But yes, the Hornets, that's a— that's an organization that should celebrate that. The Blazers, they should celebrate that. The Clippers, no. I mean, they lost, but like, no. The Warriors, no. They've been there, done that.

Been there before.

Yeah, right. The Sixers should celebrate it because now you get a shot at the Celtics.

Now you got a shot at the crown.

Yeah.

And Max, it was a decisive victory. Maxie looked awesome. Play-in P looked pretty good too.

Andre Drummond. Yeah, might be better than Embiid. Mm-hmm. Andre Drummond. I mean, Max, massive 3 at the end. Andre Drummond.

Dagger 3. Andre Drummond.

Love it.

Andre Drummond.

So, Max, you're pumped.

The bank was rocking.

The bank was rocking.

What's the name of the stadium?

Bell House?

It's the Xfinity Center.

They just changed the X. Yeah, yeah.

Everything Arena.

Yeah, it's all happening.

It's all happening at the X. Yeah. Do you know what's crazy about Andre Drummond is that he and Joel Embiid are the same age. What?

Yeah, that's, that is crazy.

Isn't that fucking wild?

You could have won a lot of money off me.

They're, they're, they're both 32 years old. Andre Drummond turns 33 in August. Joel Embiid turned 30, 32. Uh, like they're like 6 months apart.

Drummond seems so much older.

Like he's been around forever. He's been on a bunch of teams and you just see him. You're like, yeah, that guy, he's, he's on his last leg. No, he's 32 years old. He's my age. Yeah, he's younger. I saw someone— shout out my guy No Escalators, who's a very good— he's a UConn fan account, and he, he like put out this tweet that also put me in a spiral. Andre Drummond's younger than Aaron Judge.

That's crazy too. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, that's what I like about it.

It's more about baseball for the longest time, right? But nobody played in baseball.

Andre Drummond, if you— if we asked everyone before this, we would say he's 36. Yeah, like, you know, but yeah, he's on. Yeah, he's, he's— so Andre Drummond might be better than Joel Embiid. The Sixers, Max, 2-2 against the Celtics this year.

Andre Drummond is better than Joel Embiid right now.

Max, question.

He still has his appendix.

Best ability is availability.

Max, I was— yeah, Hank took my question, but it was gonna be more— I was gonna let Max answer it open-ended. What your best ability is. Well, this bit is now dead because Hank just did the bit before you, so I was— you can still answer the question.

Why are you so— are you afraid of answering my question? Teams in the playoffs, this side of the desk has no teams in the playoffs.

Yeah, Max, you've— Max, I root for a loser. You can always just say that about me, okay?

Rooted for the Bulls to lose in the play-in the last 5 years.

I'm very happy the Bulls finally tanked and have a 20% chance at a top 4 pick.

I'm happy that they're in the playoffs. I just— I'm not happy that I just have to deal with fuckface Hank over here for the next week when obviously they're the better team. They're going to win. If it goes 5 games, it's a disappointment to the Celtics. That's according to Boston media. Um, and now I just have to deal with it. And like, he's just going to be rubbing in my face as if like he isn't in the position of like, obviously you have like—

it's a rebuild year for us. Our star player played like 20 games.

It's not a rebuild.

It is not a rebuild.

Don't try to do that.

It's only a gap year.

It is not a rebuild year.

No, it's 100% must win.

Yeah. You guys are—

you guys are the favorites to win the East.

Max, I have a question.

Yeah, well, you guys are -700 to win this series.

Max?

Yes, I have a question.

PFT.

I said yes.

Okay. Yeah, Max, after the game, I saw a lot of the fans in Philadelphia saying, we want Boston, we want Boston.

Good question.

We want Boston. Do you want Boston?

Nope.

Next question.

Is—

yep, Mr. Cat.

Yeah. Would you say this series is a can lose or—

It is a— it is a loss.

No, no, but I think can lose or could win.

We don't have our best player.

Like, Andre Drummond's fine.

I think it's a might win or can't or could lose.

Memes. Stop saying you don't have your best player. Andre Drummond's fine.

Have the Celtics ever lost in the playoffs?

Playoffs as massive favorites.

Great, great question.

5 out of the last 6 years.

Good question.

Was that a Hank— can I ask a question to Hank?

Yeah.

Uh, Mr. Cat?

Yeah. Uh, Hank, was that a question for memes or Connor?

That's Connor.

Yeah, Hank is doing government names on me.

I gotta—

we gotta—

we gotta— I gotta just protect Zach. I'm worried about like the virus, the booth virus, and, and Christopher.

Oh, okay. What do you—

what did I—

I—

what have I done to you other than just call me fuckface? Yeah, well, you are a fuckface.

You are.

That was—

everyone agrees you're—

that's not fair.

This is the virus that I—

oh no, no, no, I said is 1,000% fair.

Hank, I got a question.

We watched them— we watched a game in February where you were doing two twos in your forehead after every layup made.

No, no, you being a fuckface is not a virus, it's law. Like, it's in— it's written in, in ink.

Everyone agrees.

Fuckface.

Hank, I got a question.

And yeah, Zach has a question.

He's been right.

I'm asking for, for Hank. Hank, you have to call on somebody.

PFT.

Okay, I don't get the government name. That's only for the booth guys. Um, hey, Connor and Christopher Henry, the big—

the two Cs.

Have you, have you thought about, um, about how this is going to look if you happen to lose against the Sixers? Because you are in full-on cocky Hank mode.

Yeah.

Where I can tell that you actually are not worried about the Sixers.

Never have been. Definitely am not this year. The jerseys were cool last night. Credit to Philadelphia and the Sixers. They looked cool.

It's very— that's very nice of you.

That was a good compliment.

They're great jerseys. Awesome jerseys.

The court was kind of glowing.

If they lose, the summer's over.

You're not gonna— but they're not like—

that just got me. Yeah, that just made a move a little bit.

Yeah, let's unpack that a little bit. What does the summer's over mean?

I will just— it would, uh, like, all right, I guess the spring— the spring is over. Yeah, no, I mean, this would be absolutely devastating for you for 2 full months of just like having to watch basketball games, right? In pain, Max, which I don't want to do.

This is the approach you have to— you're 16 seed right now. Like, no one's expecting it, but if you, if you somehow beat the Celtics, this is the— you just own Hen.

I've already— yeah, I've also already said if we beat the Celtics, that's, that's an NBA Finals. I don't care what happens the rest, the rest.

I also, again, like, not, not worried. Weapon mode. Coach, coach the other day had me fired up, completely fired up. But I did, you know, again, you have to think about the worst case scenario. It would be like, it would be, it would happen at Max's bachelor party. If the Celtics were going to lose, it would probably be Game 7, which would be that Saturday. Oh my God.

That'd be a real shame.

That would be incredible. I have a question.

We're going to get a Game 7 and Celtics are going to win.

I have a question.

Like, that's just how this goes.

I have a question. Yes, I have a question. We're not getting a Game 7, Max. Okay.

I would rather 4.

I agree with you. You're big-time underdogs. Sixers have not been good this year. Again, 2-2 against Celtics.

So just doesn't have an appendix.

But Andre Drummond is 32.

Andre Drummond's not even starting.

Andre Drummond is 32 years old and he's good. Max, how many games in this series do you have to win to be roped in?

2. I've already, I've already, I, I've already said 1 will not, will not move the needle. 1 will not move.

What if it was Game 1?

No, in Boston?

No, that's the one that I think is— that's what they want, that they want to try and make.

They want to get you with Game 1. That's a lie.

If they win Game 1, you're, you're roped in.

Yeah, I think, I think if you—

but I'm telling myself right now it's 2, but it's probably 1.

If you win Game 2 And it's tight. I think at any point, if this series is tied after 0-0, you're going to start to get roped in.

It also depends what Embiid's status is.

If it's like we got Andre Drummond—

Boston— and stop, stop saying Andre Drummond. If they split, if they split in Boston and it's like, oh yeah, Embiid's coming back, coming back for Game 3, then maybe.

Would he— but would he start behind Andre Drummond?

Zach, you had a question.

Sixth Man of the Year.

My question was going to be how many games, but If you do win game 1, are you going— what about you just go 100%? Just what if you just buy in? Just let's do it.

We've already done this with the Celtics. We've won game 1 against the Celtics in different years, different seasons. Yeah, that team was better.

Okay, this is all just an exercise in lying to ourselves because we know, we know once the ball is tipped, Max is going to get into Max mode. There's—

I don't know. I don't think he's been very down, rightfully so, on the Sixers this year.

When the ball— when the ball's in play, Max is going to be mad.

The only difference, Max, I would— because we were having this discussion off air, like how, you know, when, when the Bulls would get in the play-in, I would, I would be like, I don't want to go get just fucking killed by whoever's, you know, actually in the playoffs. The only difference I'd say is the Sixers do have good players. Like Tyrese Maxey is really good. Paul George, Playoff P. Andre Drummond. They have these— Vijay Edge, call him.

That's the guy that, like, if Vijay has, has a game that where he looks fucking awesome. That would get me excited. That would get me in.

You know what I like about VJ Edgecomb?

And Maxie too, but Maxie just— Maxie does it every game and it just, it's just never enough. So it's like I feel bad for him because he plays so hard and he plays so well every game, but the team just isn't good enough.

Besides the dunking, my favorite, my favorite part about VJ Edgecomb is when he shoots a terrible 3 and then immediately points at himself. He's like, hey, that, that's, that one's on me, guys. Like when he shoots an airball, he will let everybody know like, hey, That was bad. That's— that one's my fault. A lot of accountability for that.

He's an accountable guy. He said he's not scared of anyone.

I got a question.

He defend the best player.

I got a question.

That is, I got a question.

So he's going to defend Jaylen Brown?

Probably.

Yeah.

I have a question. This is for Connor or Zachariah. Would you guys rather play the Sixers or the Celtics?

Celtics.

Wow. I've been fucking thinking about this. For like 2 months.

He's just thinking about it in the shower.

I've been thinking about it in the shower. You've been thinking about it in the shower? Yeah, it makes me smile every single time.

That's hot.

Wow. You just want it bad. I want it.

Max, are you—

Look at that fucking face.

Are you thinking about the Celtics in the bath?

No.

I'm not.

Yeah, memes.

Memes is fired up in there. The Knicks are coming.

Memes is ready.

That was such a difficult game for me to watch last night. Well, because I watch and it's like I root for my team to win, But it's like in the back of my head, like, I would be like, well, if you lose this game, it's not the worst thing.

And then, yes, that's where I hate the play-in. That's because anyone who's in the play-in is not a good team.

I wanted to make the playoffs. I just wanted to play the Pistons instead of the Celtics.

Yeah.

So you're scared of Celtics?

Yes. The Celtics have dominated me. Dominated me. What? Like, why would I figure that anything different would happen?

2-2 this year, by the way.

You never know.

We talk about the game real quick. The Magic are the biggest bummer in the world to watch. That team stinks. They are— they just play just basketball that's not fun to watch. Paolo was so bad. He was like 7 for 22. He just— it's like my turn, your turn offense. Oh, bummer, bummer team to watch.

I don't know what happened to him. Last year there was so much— they were like, they played a fun brand of basketball. They're like, I can't wait to watch this team grow up and continue to get better. And then last night it was like just ended at halftime.

Yeah, I don't know. Feels like they need like a true distributor.

And they were close.

I'm not saying that Desmond Bane was the guy like Desmond Bane was whapping some, some rainbow threes that kept it close.

I'm not saying that the Sixers blew them out. What I'm saying is just like it felt like they felt like a bummer even when they were winning the game. It didn't feel like there's any positive vibes at all coming from Orlando.

Yeah.

Max, maybe ride the momentum. You're 1-0 in the playoffs so far.

Yep.

True.

So it would be awesome playoff game this year if it were Sixers-Celtics Game 7. Me and my brothers would be— my brothers would—

and fucking Jerry, brother.

Yeah.

And Jerry, we'd have to break— we'd have to break the, the, the no documentation rule on your bachelor party. We'd have to— we'd have to— we'd have to get some clips out for the people. The people would demand.

Yeah.

Yes, yes, yes.

Demand clips.

Hank, is that the gift from the Battle of the Bastards? It works. That one guy gets like the entire army. That's— that is Hank.

You take on the entire Dillenti family.

Yeah.

Who— if there is—

if Jon Snow came out on top. Also, Jon Snow, the other day, quick omission, I said he was South. He was the North.

Oh, okay.

King of the North.

Nice. Really? Yeah, very much King of the North.

You just want to support the South.

Yeah.

The—

if there— if God is an AWL, he will give us this. He will deliver us this.

I'm convinced he is.

Yeah.

He hated fantasy fuckboys.

He hated it.

Hated it.

Okay.

Other, other playing games. But I also wouldn't want to.

It's like, I mean, yes, you would.

Yes.

Like, it's Max's bachelor party. I do like Max. Like, I want him to have fun. You want him to get to Game 7.

It's not going to get to Game 7.

Yeah, you're right.

All right.

All right. Official predictions for the, for the series. I did put out a poll last night on X.com, the everything app. It's all happening on X. And I said, who you got? Celtics, Sixers. I used Hank, your workout picture as a logo for the Celtics. And then Max's soul patch for the Sixers. Right now it's at 50-50. It is a perfect split amongst the AWLs. I would assume mostly AWLs that voted on this. And yeah, Max, 50-50. Nobody, we don't know.

Max, you just think about it this way. Just break it down this way. You get one Tyrese Maxey game, you get two Andre Drummond games, and then maybe Embiid's back to help chip in a little bit for the VJ Edgecomb playoff P game.

Yeah, I mean, if you think about it like that, two Andre Drummond games—

two Andre Drummond games could happen.

Yeah, I think you get four Maxey games.

You might be able to. Uh, okay, let's— you know what, let's do picks for—

we'll do—

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What do we got, boys?

I love, uh, Anthony Edwards 4+3s.

Hmm, this is game 1.

Game 1 on Saturday, 4+3s.

All right, should we just do Saturday?

Should we just do Saturday?

Yeah, you want to make it a Saturday parlay?

I've got a very similar bet to that, Hank. Oh, I've got James Harden over 3.5 threes. +165.

Game 1 Harden?

Game 1 Harden. Yes.

Game 1 Harden. Yeah, I like that a lot. Okay, uh, and then I'll have my pick. I'm gonna go with— you ready for this one? You ready for this one? It's gonna be Luke Kennard, 19 points, rebounds, and assists.

Whoa.

Okay, he's been— he's got it. They don't have guys.

He's gotta—

he's gotta get some usage. Okay, Max, what's yours?

I am going to take— I'm going to ride my guy. Drummond.

Yeah, you will.

Drummond. No, no.

Saturday games. Yeah, Saturday game.

We'll make it. We'll make a Drummond exception.

No, we won't make it. We don't need to do a Drummond exception. McAlbridge is 13+ points.

Okay.

All right.

That's good.

Bet it on the DraftKings Sportsbook. Did you see that Luka and Cade Cunningham got a special exemption so they will be eligible for postseason or Post— yeah, postseason, not the postseason awards.

I did see that. So Luka got his because he had sex.

Yeah.

And he missed a couple of games because he had a kid.

Yep.

And then Cade got his because, like, in the spirit of the rule, he tried his lung— his lung collapse. Yeah, he tried to play as much as he could.

Correct.

And then did you see that PFT was right? Wimby's game that he had for the play or for the NBA Cup Championship, that counted towards that 65 mark. The stats inside the game do not, do not count for season totals.

Really dumb rule.

Very dumb rule.

I mean, make it all count or none of it.

I think Anthony Edwards, he's appealing whether or not his season should count. And then he's— I think he got rejected in the first round. So they're going through an appeal of his.

How the hell did we get here?

I don't know. It's just like they tried to say that the stars should not sit out games ever.

Yeah.

And then it just kind of backfired on them.

So the other playing games, the Warriors, Clippers, It was essentially like going to seeing the Rolling Stones in 2026 where you're like, yeah, you know, look, they're old, they're not the same, but the songs still rock.

Yeah.

Draymond locking down Kawhi is awesome. Steph hitting, just getting nuclear in the third quarter and then hitting an improbable, but not for Steph, 3 to win the game. It was awesome. And Steve Kerr even said it after, he's like, we felt like ourselves for one night. And I just— I like the Warriors aren't going to do anything in the playoffs, but it was a reminder how awesome Steph and Draymond are and how much fun it is to watch them play basketball, especially Steph. And it's just like, man, I'm going to miss this when it's gone. Enjoy and cherish the— cherish the good old days while we still got a little bit left.

It's pretty amazing at the end.

Yeah.

The way that Draymond single-handedly won the game on defense at the end just by locking up Kawhi for the last like 2 minutes of the game. He did absolutely nothing. And then after the game, I saw Steve Kerr said that Draymond is the best defender that he's ever seen. I mean, he was incredible, but which is like, it's crazy. Yeah, but it's not. But when you think about the guys that Steve Kerr has been around, I mean, he probably has about 4 of the top 10.

I don't know analytics, all that stuff, but just off the top of my head, it's probably 4 of the top 10 or 15 defenders of all time that he played with.

I think so, because you got Maybe 5, because you got David Robinson, you got Tim Duncan.

Yep.

You got actually Dennis Rodman, Dennis Rodman, Scottie Pippen, Michael Jordan. I would say Bruce Bowen too, right?

Yeah, but that's— it's crazy. So, and I—

that might have been Bruce Bowen, might have been too late for him, but, uh, the, the point stands, which is like, Draymond is that good at defense.

He's, he's incredible. He, he put Kawhi in a torture chamber, and Kawhi even said it after. He was just like, I couldn't even get a shot up. He admitted it. So the Clippers— listen, I think you just got to have one more year with Kawhi and just see how it goes. They are since Kawhi— the last 5 seasons, Kawhi on the Clippers, 2022 missed the playoffs. I know there's injuries and all this weird shit that happens. '22 missed the playoffs. '23 lost in first round. '24 lost in first round. '25 lost in first round. '26 missed the playoffs. Got to give it one more year. Maybe it will work.

It's going to be really interesting to see what happens with the NBA's investigation too. Yeah, because we have no idea what the outcome of that's going to be, and it could be bad.

I think Kawhi is a perfect example of make sure if you're, if you're a really, really good basketball player, you know, one of the best of this generation, just make sure you win your rings early enough that people can— you're unassailable. Because the last 5 years have not been great. But then you're just like, yeah, he was— what he did with the Raptors, what he did with the Spurs, he won 2 final MVPs. Like, you can't— he is a playoff killer. He just hasn't been.

The Raptors, that really made it, that defined his career. It's like you can, you can never say that shot. Yeah, because you remember that shot that he had against the Sixers?

That was crazy.

That was an absolutely crazy shot.

The craziest part, though, about last night, and it was, it was so much fun again to watch Steph and Draymond do their thing. The Clippers losing that game, they now forfeit their pick to the Thunder, and the Thunder have a 7% chance to move into the top 4. Great.

Good.

There's a world where the Oklahoma City Thunder could have the number 1 pick in the NBA draft.

Great. That's Adam Silver.

This is all from the Paul George trade, which is maybe one of the worst trades of all time.

Adam Silver wants to fix the NBA. Just, just take over some of the Thunder picks. Yeah, for the good of the league.

And this is the last pick swap, like, part of the Paul George trade. But if you thought it was over, I'm pretty sure the Thunder have another one with the Clippers next year because of James Harden.

Can we do the one lottery sim real quick?

It's crazy.

They also have the Sixers first round pick this year.

Oh man, some of the balls. Milwaukee, the Bucks, Milwaukee, the Pelicans.

Okay, where's Jazz? Jazz, Dallas. That would be not right. Yeah. Oh, I'd take that.

Let's go, Wiz.

Bulls number 4, Wiz number 1. I'd sign up for that right now. Ooh, Bulls number 2. The Bulls also got the, uh, it was a big play-in game night for, uh, the Bulls on Tuesday night because Kobe White was a— it was like, as much as the Bulls— I was so happy they weren't in the play-in It's like, hey, let's make sure that we have our fingers all over this because Kobe White making a huge 3 for the Hornets and then the Blazers winning and then they give the pick to the Bulls. The Bulls now have 2 first-rounders.

Yeah.

So that's a big win. But the Hornets game was awesome. I do think— I think LaMelo Ball should be suspended.

Okay. I think that it's good that we're talking about it.

Yeah. But I— it was so dirty.

It's a very dirty play. I don't think he should be suspended. I think slap on the wrist for, for now.

Here's why I think he should be suspended. I think it should always be like, Bam went out for the game, right?

But you can't base a suspension on like what happens after you do the thing, can you?

No, my, my, in my rules, yes.

In my rules, it's hockey. If there's blood, he has to sit out.

In my rules, if you injure, if you injure a player with a dirty play, you are out for as long as that player's out.

But what if you injure a player who's like constantly injured like Joel Embiid, like, are you going to be like, oh, that's really bad.

You got to get your appendix out.

You got to have to have—

you got to get emergency surgery.

But what if you do them a favor by injuring their player and then they got an impact sub like a German that comes in?

I do.

Then you do get like one get out of suspension free card to keep in your pocket.

Maybe you guys agree. Like, that was incredibly dirty.

It's very dirty.

Yeah, it was incredibly, incredibly dirty.

But I also think about this, Big Cat, if you're if you're looking out for the safety of the greater Charlotte area, you would rather have LaMelo Ball at the game, not out there on the street.

True. That's a good point.

He's also so entertaining.

Yeah.

Look, I'm happy the Hornets won. I'm just calling out that exact play. I just— there are plays that happen where someone gets injured and you're like, there's nothing they could have done. He— yeah, he swept the leg. You want—

you want a series of the Hornets much? We just talked about the Magic.

Yeah, yeah.

No, I'm—

got it.

You gotta look the other way for the sake of your own entertainment.

Watch, 100% rooting for the Hornets. Uh, and they also survived just a horrible Concanipple night where he got benched. And the Heat are a bummer. They're gonna— Pat Riley, I think, said they're gonna go and try to find a guy this year who'll be their number one player.

I mean, number one option. The Heat have been just like playing way— I'd say like way above where they should be, even by making the play-in games all these years. Like, they have not had a good roster.

No. Uh, but then, and then the Blazers, big win for the Blazers taking down Colton's Suns. Blazers are fun too. They got some fun young players. Denny, I didn't like that our friend Tommy Alter had that, uh, had that interview with Denny. Did you see that clip where Denny's like, yeah, I was shocked the Bulls didn't take me, they took Patrick Williams instead, and no one knew who that was?

No, I didn't see that.

I mean, and then he went and dropped a 40-piece. In the play-in game. Yeah, he's awesome.

Denny's a good player, former Wizard. I'm okay with trading Denny away though.

Yeah, we both fucked that up.

We both fucked up Denny. We had him and then we were like, okay, we'll try to build around Denny for a little bit. Yeah. And I think I actually think that Denny might be like the perfect guy to get you to that 7th seed if he's your main guy.

Do you guys want to do it?

What memes? What are you laughing at? You don't give a fuck about the Wizards. I would like the Wizards to be good. You can't build around that guy, can you? No, that's what I'm saying. I don't mind that trade, dude. Next year at this time, memes were saying the same thing. We had, we had him, and then now people are retroactively looking at the Wizards getting rid of him and being like, oh, they fucked that up.

I'm fine by getting rid of him.

I'm okay.

This is also the same guy that we couldn't remember his name.

I'm fine with retroactively saying that Patrick Williams was a bad pick that we all knew kind of at the time, and then giving him an extension was even worse.

I have a question for PFT. Henry, this time fast forward one year from today. What seed are the Wizards going into the playoffs?

I think we're going to be the fun play-in team.

Nice. We're going to be the Hornets. Anthony Davis and Trae Young.

Yeah, the fun young play-in team.

Yeah.

Young.

Very young.

Anthony Davis. I did. It was very funny listening to Anthony Davis and like his, his exit interview this year. They asked him like if he wanted to play in D.C. next year. He's like, you know, I'm encouraged by some things, but I want to see like more about what the plan is going to be. Anthony Davis is the plan. He's a bit— he's like the main part of the plan.

Yeah.

Like, we— that's a guy that you plan around.

Correct.

Now I'm planning around him being healthy. I think he— I think he's going to turn it all around. I think next year is the year that he puts it all together and stays— he's able to get out there and play that 65 games and make him eligible for an award. But yeah, with a high draft pick, I think with the young core, I will be a Wizards fan But they have to earn my trust and my fandom. And at this point, I don't think that—

and the play-in game would warrant that.

Yeah, you can call me a fair-weather fan. I would probably agree with you that I'm maybe even worse than a fair-weather fan, but I think it's deserved with that franchise. Like, I'd be— I'd be fucking insane if I watched every single Wizards game. How many people out there have watched every Wizards game this season? And then out of that group, how many of them have what you would call a well-adjusted, constructive life? Probably zero, right? No sane person watches every Wizards game, nor should they.

Yeah.

I'm not going to put myself or subject myself to even watching half their games or a quarter of their games until they show that they have a winning product or at least a product that can get exciting. And I think that with Anthony Davis and Trae Young, Anthony Davis, Trae Young, Trae Johnson, Bub Carrington, Sarr, that's a good young core. Add in a high draft pick next year. Will be like the 8 seed.

Sounds like you're a little scared.

I want Boston next year.

Do you guys want to do a little embrace debate? That's probably the dumbest thing that I've ever come across. Well, at least for, let's say, in the last month, because I come across a lot of dumb shit. It reminded me of— remember the old— you loved it, PFT— the Body Forum debate when the week— how many days in the week? Yeah.

How many? Bodybuilding.com.

How many weekdays in the week?

Yeah.

The—

this is, this is mind-numbing, but maybe I'm, maybe I'm stupid.

You ready for this?

So this is from Jacob, uh, Gromena. He, he screenshotted a comment that was talking about an NBA team, and he said that this person, Dirt Slayer 123, said, hate to nitpick because I like the content plenty, but 46-36 is only 5 games above.500. Not 10. And then there was an entire discussion. The Raptors were 46-36 this year. That's— is that 10 games above.500 or 5 games above.500? And people were actually arguing that it's 5 games above.500. Are— am I crazy?

If they had lost 5— if they had lost— how many wins did you say, 46?

They're 46-36.

So like, thought experiment.

What is going on in the comments? Thought experiment.

Let's do a thought experiment. If they had lost 5 of those games, of the 46 games that they won, would their record be 41-41 or would it be 41-36?

Right. But 10 games above— like, that's 10 games above.500. I think it might be a basketball-baseball debate. Baseball, you never say— no, you would say you're 10 games above.500.

If there's 82 games in a season, yeah. What would 50-50 be?

41 and 41.

So if you add 5 games to 41, so this actually, that's something, how you say it. So this is really a thing, I guess.

I'm on, I'm on yours. You say 10 games.

You say 10 games of 500. You're, if you lose the next 10 games, you didn't, you could be 500. You very cute. 10 games above 500.

You did not answer my thought experiment.

No, I get, I get what you're saying because the season's over, but you're, you're 10 games above.500. If you're 20-10, are you 10 games above.500 or are you 5 games above.500?

If the outcome of 5 of those games had been different, you would be 5.

So this is, so this is what some of the dumb people in the comments are arguing. It's my number.

I'm 100% just, just being a dickhead about it. No one in history has ever said that you're 5 games, uh, above.

A lot of people are. Here's my favorite exchange. Uh, this guy replied, if they had lost 5 more games, your argument, if they lost 5 more games, it'd be 41-41. So 5 games above.500. And then he replied, if they lost 5 games, it'd be 46-41. They go back and forth. Uh, and someone said, by this logic, a 41-40 team is a half game under.500. And he, and the person replied, that's right.

That part just fucked me up.

Like, if you're 9-8 in an NFL season, you're one game, you're one game above.500.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that's the same thing, the same line.

So yeah, I agree with that.

If you're 41-40, yeah, and you lost and you flipped a loss for a win for a loss, you'd be a half game.

Okay, now I see where it's going.

Yeah, the person said, that's right.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah. Now, so, and then he replied, so a team with one more win than a loss would be under.500 even though they quite literally won more games than they lost.

So now we're getting into some metaphysical shit because you could say in the Raptors case, if they didn't have 46 wins, let's say they were missing 5 of those wins, that could also be because those games never happened. It could be because the games weren't played, then they would be 41-36, meaning at that point they're 5 games above 500. Yeah, because the absence of a win losing does not necessarily indicate the presence of a loss.

It's the dumbest argument. Like I said, I happened upon it and I bookmarked it because I was like, holy shit, this is, this is incredible. I do think, and I think I know you're trolling. I think Hank is serious. I think he actually thinks it's 5 games above.500.

Hank's never been in that position because his teams always win.

The, it really is comes down to, Max, don't you agree? It comes down to like baseball fans versus basketball, like baseball fans. You would never say anyone.

Yeah, no, there's so many people who are saying this.

This in here.

Those people are—

it's crazy.

They just have never talked about records before.

It's crazy. They're all saying it. They said— this one guy said, I'm calling it 5 games above.500. I thought that was pretty standard. A 10-0 team is not 10 games above.500. That's silly. Yes, they are.

Yeah, they are. I, I like to think that there's a lot of trolling going on in that thread, but there's a—

because I need seriousness, I'm gonna have to inject myself because you're— what the argument that you threw out there is what people are actually going with, right? That's where they're like, oh, well, wins become losses So then you're only 5 games above it.

That's exactly how you would argue it if you were a moron.

Yeah. Okay. Other stories before we get to our interviews, talk some NHL playoffs, and we have Francisco Lindor. Hank, would you like to comment on LIV Golf?

Yeah, the Mexico City Open is this week. It's a big event. Bryson DeChambeau is looking to become the first player in LIV Golf history to win 3 events in a row. So, story, history in the making. Yeah.

Hank, comment for real.

Wars, man. War is bad.

Okay.

War is bad.

Go on.

War is destroying LIV Golf League.

That's the real problem with war, not the lives lost.

Yeah.

I mean, a lot of LIV lives are being lost.

Yeah. Lives are being lost. Yeah. How many lives is it going to take until we say until we say no more. Like, Hank is— when you think about Hank, is that guy in Tiananmen Square standing in front of the tank.

There was an element of like fake news yesterday, by the way.

Oh yeah, for people. So, so go for it.

Who I like, he's a, he's a great follow, very like dedicated. This guy is— I think his Twitter name is like Monday Q Info Aces 101 Golf or something. But he, he just basically, he like follows like you can Monday qualify to get into PGA Tour events. He follows the Monday qualifiers, like reports on it, talks to like Corn Fairy guys and is like very, very into the weeds of, of golf and qualifying for these events. He was the one that broke it. He was like, I have inside sources that are saying LIV is, is ending. And, you know, if you like, take the under basically on like whatever you heard, like it's ending soon. And he said that in a Twitter Spaces. Then it felt like throughout the rest of the day, the golf and like all media aggregate accounts just started posting that as fact. So then everyone was just like, LIV Golf is over. Like, that was the sentiment.

Now you—

I mean, even I was like, this seems bad because it's like I saw it from him, not confirmed, confirmed. But then when all the other, you know, news outlets start saying that, it's like, maybe this is true. This, this could be the end of LIV. So that like when you, when you, you tweeted it, Big Cat, like you guys were all saying like it was over. Then the, you know, part of the powers that be at the LIV met in Mexico City and the CEO or whatever said that. That, you know, the tour's going on like this.

This weekend's going on.

Yep.

Everyone's been getting paid. That was fake. Vote of confidence saying it's not getting paid and we're going till the end of the year.

We're still playing 54 holes.

72.

72.

72.

And we're still wearing shorts.

Wait, they changed it? Yeah.

When did they do that? This year.

Oh, so it's going on for the rest of the year.

That's like when a CEO is like, hey, everything is fine with the company. I just need everybody to put in like 25% extra overtime and we can't pay more, but we're all pulling on the same rope here.

Yeah.

And I'm, I'm probably talking a little over my head now. I'm not, not a geopolitical guy, but no, it seems like the PIF and, you know, all the Saudi money, they are redirecting their money. The war is taking its toll on flag football.

I don't know.

I don't know. They're pulling the plug on that too.

Oh, really?

Brady's flag— it's in, it's in danger. Oh, no.

The war?

Yeah, the war—

The war!

The war in the Middle East has taken its toll. Oil money prices or something too.

The Strait of Hormuz.

Yeah, the Strait of Hormuz which whatever... No no no!

I need you to back that up.

Do not "whatever" that.

This is a non-story. It was a joke. I was watching Survivor and The Trump press conference came on in the middle of it, and I was— I wanted to tweet like, no one gives a fuck about the Strait of Hormuz. Like, put the current Survivor back on. That was a joke. But, but no, I think I was mad. I was like, why? Like, yeah, we're about to go to tribal right now. Like, and we're talking about the Strait of Hormuz.

Yeah, I think that maybe live golf was in jeopardy because of the war, but then they found out that we were actually going to put a blockade on their blockade. It was going to be a double blockade. And then MBS was like, okay, we're back, we're back. We solved that. That was close.

But regardless, it seems like this will probably be the last year.

Oh no.

Unless they can get money from outside sources.

You guys interested in investing and dealing with this?

Right now I'm kind of tied up.

So that's not failing.

They've been—

it's—

well, then why do they need money from outside sources?

Because they're not getting money from the Saudis.

Got it.

But that's—

but it's—

so it's failing in that— how much— how much money did they make last year? What was their profit last year?

4 shroobucks.

I think it was somewhere in England. They said that they've got England alone. I think it was negative $500 million.

I mean, you don't know how—

you don't know how to run a business like that's actually a good thing.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right.

That's right.

Yeah.

But they—

you know what? They've got sponsors.

They've gotten—

they've done stuff.

And also the memories we made along the way. Those are— you can't put a price tag on those. No. Like the time that Jon Rahm wore shorts.

Yeah, PFT made a National Eagle in Chicago. That was—

what, that was— that was outside of—

they actually emailed, they actually hit up our, uh, one of our sales guys, and he was like, Liv wants to send you a bunch of stuff, what's your address?

Because they need to like clear out the warehouse.

I just hope they sent it.

Like, I don't—

I was hoping it was going to be here today.

Don't think MBS would chop things up and sell them for parts.

Uh, I will say, if Liv has any banners that they sell us, I will absolutely buy like a Smash GC 2025 championship banner.

We got to go back and look through all the promotional shit that they did. My favorite live memory, I think, was when Bryson came out on stage at a rock concert at— I think it was also at a golf tournament. And then he like jumped up and was like, let's go, Connor.

Bryson talking about the—

I don't want you because you're saying live's not dead.

EBTIA, whatever.

So we got to wait. We're not going to do— I told Hank on Monday or Tuesday, I said, I want your top 10 live memories, but sounds like we're going to survive this season, so I don't want you to do it yet.

This season is going to be epic.

Oh, it's going to be one to remember. Where are we going next?

Mexico City.

And then where?

Not sure. Okay, so probably like Singapore.

Yeah, you got the schedule down. This question is for Hank. Can you name every ace ever to this point?

All right, we got Dustin Johnson. Yeah, we got Pat Perez. Harold Varner, Peter Uline, uh, twin Thomases, the Toms, Thomas Peters, Thomas Dietrich, the Tom Toms, uh, Anthony Kim.

Uh, he's lost right now. He found a, he found a duo.

How close, how many more are they?

We don't know.

We have—

we can't even fucking know. You can't even find it.

I got 8. There's definitely a few more. I don't think Gooch was a 4 ace.

This is so hard.

Wait.

Oh, OK. We're going to go off. You forgot Oliver Becker, Sean Norris, and Kevin Yuan.

Those guys were never—

did you get— did you get Miguel Taboena?

Those never an ace.

Did you get Tom— Tom— you got the two Toms. Did you get Harold Varner?

Yeah.

Taylor Gooch.

He's on there.

Oh yeah, I said that.

I just said that.

Okay.

Patrick Reed. Patrick Reed.

I mean, what a ride it was.

If this is the end, I don't want to say—

I would love—

there's one guy who, who I would really love to, to catch up with and know what he knows.

It's Brooks.

Yeah.

Oh, well, that's why I'm kind of rooting for LIV to end like right now, because No one would have timed it better than Brooks.

He's a genius.

He just went in, made a shitload of money, has to get a little slap on his wrist in the PGA, and he's back.

But like, he's, he's so much farther advanced.

Yeah, right.

And like, the, like, people are like, LIV, what a disaster. And he's on the other side being like, oh, LIV, what a disaster.

Yeah, because he, he's, he, he left.

What were those guys thinking?

Yeah, he left when LIV was still existing. If LIV stops to exist, the Jon Rahms, the Patrick Reeds, the Brysons, they have no negotiation left. Oh yeah, that's right. But the Bryson and the Jon Rahms, they have no negotiation. Like they have no leg to stand on.

PGA told them back when Brooks was leaving, you have like 2 weeks to make your decision.

Yeah.

And then if you don't make a choice to leave, that's your choice. You'll have to live with it. And so the guys that didn't leave, it's like they already made their choice. So now the PGA is going to come down hard on them.

Yeah.

And like Patrick Reed, he's been on the DP World Tour. Yeah, right.

He's—

so he's got like— he'll be back.

What is double penetration?

We can't—

yeah, European. Oh, uh, he'll be back next— I like the thing that started next year. Like, it's like a year from when he defected, right?

So what are the other guys gonna have to do?

That's what people are saying, that they might— they might have to get double penetrated, or they might have to sit out the rest of the live season to start that clock.

What about Corn Ferry?

I don't know, they might have to requalify.

It is sad.

Caddying Phil Mickelson, probably he's never— you're never gonna see him. I would say that compete again, which that sucks because he's still decent.

He could still play in the Masters.

He won still playing the Masters, and I think he won in 2021, so this might be his last 5-year exemptions for all the majors, uh, because he won the PGA. But so this is probably his last year for that. The kid Michael Sassoe, who was the national— won the national championship at Ole Miss last year, which gets you a spot at the Masters, he for—

for—

for—

uh, forgo it to become professional, join LIV, and then with less than a year, like, that's all done. So it's like, what the fuck does he do? Like, there's some, there's some young guys that it sucks for, and it's just sad. It's, it, it's very sad.

It's a, it's a—

so sad.

Maybe the saddest story that we've covered.

I just hope—

I mean, like, Bryson's so sad. Like, if you were to go back and be like, hey, Bryson, just so you know, you're going to make $400 million, but like the league might not exist in 4 years, he'd probably be like, I want no part in that. Yeah, that would be too sad.

I just think of LIV Golf, I just think it's sad.

It's a very sad story.

So sad.

And a cautionary tale that I'm sure will never repeat again. You know what also is sad? Like, future—

good for the game of golf though. It's like, oh, it disrupted the PGA Tour, forced them to make changes for the better for the players. Bigger purses, bigger, you know, better events.

Like we're talking Louis Hmm. What? How big of purses can you get?

No, like bigger, bigger, you know, bigger prize pool.

Oh, that's Kelly Martin. I think that with this, if you were to say it's good for the game of golf, I would probably—

it's made me rethink about war. I'll tell you that.

Yeah, big time. Because what's it good for? Yeah. Up until this affected your LIV Golf viewing, you were like, I'm in for war.

Yeah. And now sign me up. I was, I was ready to get drafted. I was trying to like get under the, under the age requirement.

I think you're still good. Oh, you already raised that.

But now I'm like, now I might. Yeah.

Yeah. Another sad thing is that in, in like 30 years, the plot of Happy Gilmore 2 is going to make no sense.

Yeah.

They're going to be like, what? There's like an upstart golf league that's really sad, like driving around on ATVs and shit. They'll have no idea what it was pairing.

Sad.

Yeah, very sad.

It's really sad. The other thing I had, two more things. PFT, I have two things for you. First is because we just did our international golf correspondent. You are international soccer correspondent. Is the World Cup going to suck?

Yeah, I think the World Cup is going to suck.

Are we fucking this up?

I think, I think we're royally— I think everyone's fucking it up. So I think it's—

no, it's America.

So if you, if you, if you've seen the news, we've had a couple of news stories break, one of which was the New Jersey Transit. They're planning to bump their $12 train ticket ticket from New York City to MetLife Stadium to $100. Yeah, there's going to be no tailgating.

Yep.

At certain venues— Arrowhead, Gillette, Lincoln Financial. And then what was the— there was, there was yet no tailgating at Foxborough.

I feel like Philly might have stood up and stopped. You might be able to tailgate in Philly.

Yeah, I would be offended if I could be wrong about it.

It's crazy.

Definitely no tailgating at MetLife.

Yeah. Well, here's the thing, Big Cat.

MetLife is the—

I'll let you in a little.

It's already a joke.

Yes.

Like it's a joke of a representation for like the biggest city in our country.

Yeah. Your days spent getting in and out of MetLife Stadium are hell on earth.

Agreed.

It's a terrible place, terrible location, and just overall terrible experience. But yeah, the little secret about the World Cup is it always sucks. Yeah, the World Cup sucks. I went to the one in in Qatar last time, which was until then maybe the suckiest World Cup of all time. And that one, that one sucked because it was like maybe half a week or a week before kickoff. And then Qatar was like, actually, we're not going to have any beer at all in the stadium after people had like already arrived for the games. And then they had just had like pallets of beer that they had to ship back.

How can you not have tailgates?

I don't know.

Crazy.

I don't know how they're going to operate this. FIFA is a cartel. It's, it's organized crime that has a death grip on world soccer, and it always has been. And CONCACAF especially has been like right in the throes of that. So, yeah, it's basically one giant grift. And it just so happens that they have control over what should be the most fun tournament in all of sports. Yeah, as a tournament that I still love. I, again, if you heard talking soccer on last episode of Part of My Take, I don't give a fuck about European soccer. I don't care about the EPL, the La Liga. Outside of Tottenham getting relegated, that's about as far as my interest goes. But when it comes to the World Cup, I love the tournament. It is my favorite tournament in sports, I think. And it— but it's always run by people who are openly antagonistic to their consumers, to their fan base. And it's not going to change. If anything, it's just going to get worse.

It's going to suck. Zach, by the way, reminder, we need the update on Tottenham.

18th.

That's Saturday.

Yes, sir.

Yeah.

Who do we got?

Tottenham on the 18th.

Brighton.

Brighton.

Oh yeah, Brighton. Yeah. Up the goals.

Yeah. And the last thing was congratulations, PFT, your new uniforms rock.

Thank you. Yeah, I do think that the Commanders uniforms was like the most easy, no doubt, don't fuck this up of all time. And they didn't fuck it up.

The only thing that I saw that was very nitpicky and it's— I think we just have too many graphic designers. We can talk about the W. No, it was, it was someone said that the, the, yeah, the arrow going through couldn't actually—

Yeah.

Okay.

No, that's what I'm talking about.

I don't care.

I've, I've thought way too hard about the spear going through the W. But first, let me just talk about the uniforms. The uniforms themselves, they're perfect. It's like what we wore from 1980, it feels like, through 2012. They're great uniforms. They're simple white, they're burgundy. The gold pants are awesome. The black alternate is a great uniform. They didn't fuck it up. Also noteworthy is that you will not find the word Commanders anywhere on these uniforms.

The Dubs.

I think it's going to be like a— I could be wrong. It could be a 5-year process of slowly turning the name into something else. When we open up the new stadium, it's really—

should have just stuck with football team.

Yeah, they're back to the football.

Yeah, the football team. They're just so good.

Like, I don't need— I don't need a cartoon Bird to represent my team. We're a fucking football team. We play football, bitch. But yeah, I have spent a lot of time looking at the spirit going through the W, and my biggest takeaway from that is that this is really a great problem. If this is the biggest problem and issue that we have as Commanders fans with the rebrand, that's, that's incredible. Because with Dan Snyder in that era, he would have fucked things up so much worse than this. The W is physically impossible, but I don't give a fuck. Because it's, it's colors that are on the side of a football helmet and it doesn't really matter. In fact, if it's not physically possible, that'll probably just fuck up our opponents even more, right? They'll be like trying to shift into a cover 3 and then they'll just be caught looking at Terry McLaurin's home and be like, that's not physically possible. Yeah, it's an MC. I'm trapped inside of an MC Escher football game.

It is physically possible. But the only, the only downside or the only problem with the Washington Commanders logo reveal is you got completely cucked by the new college football playoff logo.

And the Rams.

Well, let's talk about the college football playoff logo first. Did you guys see it? It's fucking incredible.

I actually didn't. I was just staring.

Oh man.

I was staring at Commander shit all day.

Get the Rams. What did the Rams even change?

Oh, you guys got to watch. Look at the reveal video. It's groundbreaking.

Well, go to the college football playoff one first.

There's too many things.

Just say college football playoff. I want you to see it. That one would— that one. Ruled the day of the best rebrand. It's not even close. I don't care about the Rams right now.

College Football Playoff what?

Logo. Max can't handle it.

Well, there's a lot of things.

You guys see the Rams?

Look at that.

Bring up the Rams real quick.

Look at that, though. You guys seen that?

It's a vagina.

Do you see the old one?

I see a vagina.

The old one, though, is a big update. There it is. Look at that.

Holy shit.

Yeah.

I don't even know what they did.

They made it a little bit— they had a sheen to it.

Yeah. And we got to do that. And they change it from Youngstown Bob. They change it from college football playoff to CFP.

It implies like the existence of a bright light that's reflecting off of the logo.

Pull up the— show the video.

The— follow along, Max.

I have it.

I'm trying to follow along.

My take on the Rams uniform is that the Rams uniform looks exactly the same, but it's better.

Same No, it's not. It's the same shit.

No, it's the same but better.

It's clean, bolder.

Yeah.

We can't even play this video.

Okay.

I'll just show it so they can see how different it looks.

I can watch it. Wow. They're now blue, yellow, and white. Oh. It's the exact same jersey.

Exact same.

Meme said the yellow is different.

The yellow is different. And also a major difference is they don't have the stupid gradient numbers. Yeah, the numbers don't color change.

I think the Ravens are unveiling something new tonight. Are they? I think so. So that will be cool, I guess.

New cargo shorts.

This is how much the— this is how much the NFL owns our brains. It's like, hey, we got some new uniforms.

I mean, I did. I spent a lot of money on the Commanders. I have a Luke McCaffrey in every colorway showing up at my door on Friday.

Expect your guy.

And even though the W looks like a taco holder, better. I still— it's, it's miles better. Their uniforms are miles better.

Agreed.

Than what they were. I think we said about this time last year, the worst uniforms in football. Now I'd put them, in my opinion, they're top 10.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest.

Best.

Very. He's counting them.

Thank you.

Who else is in the room, Yance?

We got Fish Sticks and G Money.

Okay, so it's hockey playoffs, Stanley Cup playoff time. We want to have Yance on, give us a little preview before the first games this weekend. I'd like to start here, and I don't know if I'm on the outside or where like hockey commentary is at. I think the setup for these playoffs, I'm done with it. Fuck it. I can't—

You want the 1 through 8.

I can't stand the fact that in the West the best teams have to play each other. Who's it right now? It's gonna be the Knights and the Oilers, or no, that one's not set.

No, the Colorado-Minnesota one. You're going to, you're going to be losing a contender in the first round, which kind of sucks.

It's crazy to me. And then I saw that, you know, like in the East, what, Minnesota-Dallas. Yeah. In the East, it's kind of similar where you have some really good teams that are going to knock each other out. What do you do? Do you think it's ever going to change back? And where does like hockey Twitter land on it?

I think everybody's on our page that they want it 1 through 8. I know some guys like Ryan Whitney want 1 through 18, which I don't think will happen just because of the travel and stuff. But Bettman loves this, the setup that we have now. He thinks it brings a lot more rivalries into the divisions and stuff, which I do agree with. But they got to figure a way to get it where it's 1 through 8, because when you're losing teams, especially nowadays with the parity of the league being so good, when you're losing contenders in the first round, like at the end of the day, like guys are going to lose jobs over that. Like a coach, if you lose in the first round, you could be on the hot seat. A GM, if you lose in the first round, you could be on the hot seat, even though you're going to lose to a team that, you know, is going to eventually maybe go on to win the Stanley Cup. So it's tough. I would like to see 1 through 8. I don't know. Gary seems to kind of shut it down every time it's talked about.

Maybe the numbers behind the scenes stuff are in his favor. So So whatever he's doing right now, the league's in such a good spot. You can't really question his, his, what he's doing.

Yeah. Like, like just for example, the Sabers are back in the playoffs for the first time in 15 years. Incredible story. The 7-8, the Flyers and the Penguins are playing each other. Like if you just go straight points and then the Sabers have to play the 5th seed, if you go straight points in the Bruins, that's so stupid.

Yeah, and but that kind of feeds into what Bettman wants is like that the Battle of Philadelphia or Pennsylvania with the Flyers and Penguins, which will be awesome. All those series are always awesome. Sid rips up the Flyers when he plays. So look for him to be a monster. So I think when you look at it that way with the matchups that you get, he, you're kind of, you know, agreeing with him. But yeah, you're going to lose good teams in the Boston-Buffalo one as well. It's like like, you know, you win your division, oh, here you go, you get to play the Bruins who have been great this year.

Yeah, I, I agree with Big Cat. I don't like that. If you're trying to engineer rivalries to happen in the playoffs, like, let that shit happen naturally and let that be a rivalry that, like, we can maybe hope to look forward to if everything shakes out correctly in the playoffs. Not like you get it in the first round. I, I agree. I think that's— you got to go 1 through 8. Every other sport does it that way.

Yeah, I, I agree. I think it should be because, you know, what's the incentive to, you know, some of these games tonight, like, there are some games that will matter your seeding and kind of if Anaheim goes out and loses, or if they— I don't know exactly what it is. If they lose, I think they play, um, Edmonton. If they win, they play someone else, whatever it is. So you can kind of control your own destiny where guys, you know, the last few games you might want to lose on purpose to get a lower seed, which, you know, is, is sucky to watch. And I know what happened to us one year in, in, uh, when I was in Phoenix, we going into the last game, if we won that game, we'd play Detroit. If we lost, we would have played Dallas. And we had played Detroit the year before, and our coach was like, we're going to win this game. We got to fucking give it to Detroit because they beat us last year. So we go out, we won that game in San Jose, and then we got swept in 4 by Detroit.

Thanks for coming.

Yeah, it's tough. So, yeah, right off the bat, I've got to take— you tell me if I'm crazy. I'm, you know, a hockey casual. I start to lock in. If the Caps are good, I'll watch all season. But, you know, mostly we pay attention once it starts to get close to the playoffs. I think that this is the Leafs' year. I think that this is the year that they're going to win the Stanley Cup.

Couldn't agree more.

So can you tell me, like, okay, am I crazy to think that?

Yeah. I mean, just like a lot of Leafs fans, it's a little delusional of yourself to say that. But yeah, it's not their year. They didn't make the playoffs.

Last in the division, I think.

Yeah, they're actually I think if they win tonight, then they're out of the top 5 for draft lottery pick, which, which would be so Toronto to win this game. But yeah, it's, it's one of those things. I don't see them getting better in the next few years either. And which the only good thing about that is a lot of misery to our boy Biz Nasty.

Yeah, that is a fun one. So sticking with 2 teams that are actually in the playoffs, the Bruins and the Sabers. Great story with the Sabers. I like the billboard they put up with our guy Whit.

Amazing.

Kind of shocked me.

Yeah, he's a real idiot. Like, can you imagine being that stupid?

No, you guys never give bad takes.

No, never, ever. No.

Yeah. You just have billboards of yourselves. I was in Chicago. All I did was see your guys' mugs on the billboards.

The problem is we have so many bad takes that I think, like, people would put themselves out of business if they got a billboard every single time that they wanted to put our stupid faces up there. But we got the Sabers and the Bruins Bruins, uh, really hot goalie, maybe the best goalie in the NHL this season. Um, is this a bad matchup for the Sabers? They finally, they worked their way back in the playoffs and then they have the potential of running into, uh, to a guy that can shut down their entire offense.

Yeah, when you, when you think of playoff hockey, it's goaltending. Um, you know, goaltending, special teams will win your series. I think, you know, the Sabers having such a good year and then like you said, it's like their reward is they get to play the Bruins, with one of the best players in the league with David Pastrnak. And then you got Swayman in the back end there. So it's, it's one of those things where they didn't— where they weren't great against them all year. I think they were— the Bruins were 3-1 against them. So, you know, it's— you think of that stuff going into the playoffs. How did we play against them this year? How was our matchups? How did our big guys play? And, you know, their big guys weren't that great against them this year. Kind of you know, held off the scoreboard a little bit. I don't think Tage Thompson had a goal against the Bruins, had a couple of assists. But, you know, those things are in the back of your mind as a player is how you match up against teams. And, you know, for Buffalo, I think they just got to go in all heart, you know, just kind of find ways.

And I'm waiting to see if they have the, the goat head jerseys to really lay my, to lay my bet on that first game, see what they're wearing. If they're rocking the goat heads, then I'm pounding them. But I think at the end of the day that Buffalo, it's their year to at least win the series, go on, beat the Bruins. Granelli's not happy with me right now in the background, giving me the finger. But I do. I think, I think they got the mojo coming into this year since they fired their GM. They've been great, been on a, been on a nice little tear all year. So they're a fun team to watch, fun team to root for. They got some unbelievable players. Dahlin, one of the best D-men in the league. Tage Thompson, TNT, one of the best forwards, power forwards in the league, a real throwback and shoot, hit, do everything, fights. He's just a great player. So that series to me I think is going to be one of the best watches for in the first round. Two, two great markets for TV watching as well. So I think that'll be one of the best series to start it off.

All right. So you say goalie, goalie play obviously matters a ton and hot goalies at this time of year.

What—

give me the best 2 goalies in the East, the best 2 goalies in the West.

Best 2 goalies in the East, I'm gonna go— you gotta go Vasilevskiy in there. Um, you know, with Tampa, he's got the track record, he's won, uh, he, he's huge, he can play the puck really well, he can bail you out, he's been in every situation you can put him in right now. Uh, he, he's won Stanley Cups, so I'd probably put him at the 1 spot just because of his overall, uh, work in, in his, in his career. And then I'd have to put Swayman up there too. He's been amazing this year. Last year, a little bit of a slow start with the contract negotiations and stuff like that, but this year he's been amazing. Um, you know, obviously was part of that Team USA team that won the Olympics. He didn't play— I think he only played one game, but still just being around those guys, getting the confidence. So I, I could see him being a real problem in playoffs. Out West is a little difficult. Like, you got Ottinger, who I think is the clear number one goalie in Dallas. But, and then you look at a team like Colorado who's got the Wood brothers, Wedgwood and Blackwood, who both just great goaltenders.

So if one guy's having an off night, you can go to another guy. I know that's not, you know, kind of how it is in playoffs. You usually like to stick with one guy, but their systems worked for them over the last couple of years. I could see them, you know, going back and forth. So I think out West it's Dallas and Colorado.

What's the best series in the West to start? I know that we have, like we said to start, you know, the fact that the way this whole thing is set up, you have in the first round the Stars playing the Wild, who are both teams that are better than everyone in the Pacific. Is that the best series that you're looking forward to?

100%. And that honestly, that could be the Western Conference Finals any other year. But the way it is, it's— we're going to lose one of those teams. But I think that those both those teams have kind of been locked into where they're going to finish for the last couple of weeks. So they haven't been playing amazing hockey or even, you know, playing as hard as they probably will come playoff time. But I think that series is going to be incredible. We saw what Miko Rantanen did last year in playoffs. The guy's an absolute moose. He can, he can win you a series, just him alone. You got stories like Wyatt Johnson, who I think he's on a 4-game goal streak right now. Um, you know, Jason Robinson, who's been incredible all year. I know Heiskanen is going to be out for the first couple games as of now in Dallas, but you know, when he comes back, he's an absolute stud on the back end. Then Minnesota— Minnesota goes out early this year, uh, I think in like December, to trade for Quinn Hughes, who's a Norris-type player, uh, defenseman. Uh, so making huge, huge moves in the offseason, uh, during the season to bring in players, and And, you know, little moves that they made, which I love, was bringing in— I know you guys are boys of Nick Foligno.

Like, you bring in a guy like that, you see what he brings to that team, even the short time he's been there with sticking up for teammates, fighting. He knows what it takes to win. He knows what it takes to win in the playoffs. And I think he's going to be a huge add for them just to have him on the bench, have him in the locker room, you know, keeping guys honest on the ice. If someone gets taken advantage of, you know, he's going to be out there next shift. Jeff punching somebody's head in.

I love that term moose, by the way. I've started to use moose a lot. Like, yeah, in DC we got the Protus brothers now, and they're both— those guys are both moose, right? Oh my God.

Yeah, actual mooses.

Who are your, uh, your top 3 moose in the playoffs?

Top 3 moose in the playoffs?

Yeah, playoff moose.

Rantanen, uh, is the number 1 moose. Then I'm gonna give you a little one off the board here, is, uh, Zadorov, defenseman for the Bruins. He's an absolute moose, a Russian moose, mind you. So Yeah, I think he's 6'7", 250 or 260. He's an absolute machine of a human. And then one more, I'll give you Tage Thompson. I think he's 6'5", 230.

Yeah.

Can skate like the wind and, you know, one of the best players in the league, but he's just an absolute mountain of a man.

Who's your— who's your top 2 beauties?

Top 2 beauties in the playoffs right now?

Yeah.

Oh, man. I'm going to go Nate. Oh yeah, Pasta. I'll go Pasta with one. G gave me that one. That's a layup of a— yeah, Pasta is just all-time. Like, the clips you get of him off on the internet, he— the stuff that he wears to games, the guy's incredible. And then I'll give you, um, because the beauty—

get me, don't get like— am I right in saying that a beauty has to both have the game but also have the looks?

Yeah, you can't— you can't be an ugly beauty. Yeah, speaking of— speaking of ugly beauties, Hey Bizzy!

Hey Biz!

Biz, you want to come to Max's bachelor party?

Do you want to come to Max's bachelor party?

Vegas.

Vegas. May 1st, Vegas.

If I don't have TNT, I would pop in for a night. Are you guys going to like the Sphere or anything?

Yeah, we're doing it. Yeah, we're going to the Sphere. The Sphere.

It's like, yeah.

You guys know he works for TNT?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I heard that.

Yeah, he tells everyone. We went to get a coffee. He was like, hey, I work for TNT. Can I get a venti iced?

Jens, can you ask him the Leafs question?

Oh, Biz, he, pt was wondering if this is the Leafs year.

You son of a bitch. You son of a bitch. I'll tell you who's in the year. It's not the Washington Capitals.

Oh, it's neither one of our year. We're 0 for 2 on years this year.

Look at this. Are you wearing a Penn State hockey shirt?

Yeah, we are.

Yeah.

Yeah. Gavin McKenna is not coming back. So they actually gave me some of the money. I'm going to come back to college and play a little bit.

I love that.

5 years of eligibility left.

He's gonna finish high school.

Yeah, the question I just asked Yan's Biz was, uh, top 2 beauties in the playoffs this year.

I didn't give you my second one.

Yeah, yeah, I want your second one.

Individual, like individual people.

So I'm going Pasta and I'm going Nathan McKinnon. Those are my 2 top, top 2 beauties.

Those are good.

Oh my God, like on and off the ice they're saying.

Yeah, you gotta obviously, you know what a beauty is.

Yeah.

Yeah. You could also gimme your top 2 man rockets.

You know, I'll, so I'll, I'll give you one from the Flyers. Trevor Zegras.

Okay.

Just like we did a sandbagger with him. Just an absolute character. Came over from Anaheim. He's kind of got that California vibe, but he had a, he came over, had a great bounce back year with the Flyers and now they're obviously in playoffs. The battle of Pennsylvania is gonna be unbelievable. Like that's gonna be an absolute shit show. And geez, I mean, one other guy, let me try to think here. Uh, uh, can I come back to it?

Yeah, thanks. I'll give you the— I think the, the biggest man rocket in all of playoffs. Yeah, is, is, uh, Marcus Foligno.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, he's a stallion.

Look him up. Don't show you exactly.

Would you— if you, if you had to differentiate between a man rocket and a beauty, what makes the difference? Uh, oh yeah, Marcus Foligno is a fucking— he's a man rocket.

Like, for instance, like, if, like, if you didn't watch hockey and you were a girl who showed up to a game, if you saw Tom Wilson, if you were sitting front row, like, if I brought my, like, wife or girlfriend, I'd make sure I'd cover her eyes every time he skated by or lined up for a face-off next to us.

Is that a man rocket or a beauty? He's all of it. Yeah, but I'm saying, what's the difference?

That sounds like a man rocket.

A man missile.

Oh, oh, oh, man missile.

So one is guided, one is, it's like radar. Okay. The other's just dumb.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think a man missile is both, like take those and combine them.

Okay, that's what, that's what Tom Wilson—

yeah, yeah. And then, uh, Biz, who are your top 2 moose in the playoffs?

Uh, that's like a—

I would put Marcus Foligno as a moose.

He's a moose man too.

He's a moose and a rocket.

Yeah, Moose Man Missile Rocket.

Wow. Yeah, damn, guys got it all.

Yeah.

Ah, you— I mean, I wish, I wish the Capitals were in it because they had that lion full of moose. They had the three, the three blind moose, uh, of the, the Protus brothers and Tom Wilson. Over 700 pounds of meat.

Yeah.

Um, and Ovi. I mean, crazy. But they needed two team busses to get the games. Um, I'm trying to think of who else could be a good moose in playoffs.

All go in the elevator together?

No, no. Oh God, you guys are putting me on the spot here.

I said Rantanen.

Rantanen is—

he's—

I think that's his nickname, the Moose.

Him and Foligno, I think both their nicknames are—

you nailed it.

What about Matt?

Brent Burns is a moose too.

Yeah, you know who— how old is he?

I think he's 68.

Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, yeah.

I feel like, uh, Geno Malkin might be a moose too.

He is a moose.

So that's who I was gonna pick as my other, uh, my other beauty.

Oh, okay, more of a beauty than a moose.

What about your— what about your top plumber?

Um, like, to give him some love, I would say— and it's a good pickup for Carolina— I would say DeLaurier. He's got great dance moves. I don't know if you saw his video at the Elbow Room. At the Elbow Room, he's got some unreal moves. But like, he's, you know, he's a fourth liner. He doesn't move very well, but just an absolute beauty, good character, uh, guy in the locker room. And, uh, he, he's, he's definitely a plumber. And then I'm trying to say—

Casterlick, someone who does dirty work, who's a hard worker, like kind of grinder.

I thought it would be a goalie because they're between the pipes.

Yeah, not maybe, maybe not like the most skills, but a plumber.

I'm gonna say Casterlick from the Bruins. He's a guy, he's gonna be a problem in playoffs playing against him. He's got some decent skill, but he plays hard. He'll fight anyone. He's a— playoff hockey is suited for his style of play.

One series we've talked about a little bit, the battle for Pennsylvania, the Flyers and the Penguins. Feels like maybe the last ride for this iteration of the Penguins, or we're getting towards the end with it.

No.

You don't think so?

No, I think that Dubas has done an unbelievable job retooling this team, and they got a lot of money to spend in free agency. Not saying like there's a ton of unbelievable free agents available, but, you know, they just, they have good contracts. They, I mean, they'll re-sign Geno, and I think they'll be right back in the mix in the Metro.

Yeah, people think, people think Sid's like on his way out. Like, you got to put him in the same category as Tom Brady. Like, these guys, they're built differently. They can play for however long they want to, uh, and, and put up great numbers. Like, he just had his 21st season of over a point a game, which is unheard of. And I know we all said it, like, that, that record will never be touched.

And he was on, um, he was talking today, uh, on McAfee about the fact that he doesn't eat like Ovechkin either, right? Yeah. So he, he has a pretty good diet.

So he's making a good diet.

Oh, he's wet.

Oh, the witness.

He's got a moose hat on.

Boys, hey, check out the lid on him.

He said he doesn't want to listen.

Hey, come on, put the cans on there.

Come on, we're talking about man rockets, beauties.

I'll tilt my head like this so he can get in Yeah, our favorite moose.

This is good.

That's a three-headed monster.

The boys.

Yeah.

Peas.

We actually went, it's good that you're here because we did not bring it up until now. How are you feeling about the Oilers and is Drysidle coming back? He's, I saw the report that he's ready to go.

He looks great and skating around right now. I don't know if he'll be there game one. At worst, I think game two. And then if you win game one, why even play him game two? Because chances are we're playing the Kings.

Kings.

It sucks. It's not, it's not brutal for an Oilers fan because I think we'll dust them again. It just, I'm just so sick of playing the Kings 5 years in a row. It might be one of the, it might be one of the one things that could get Bettman to switch this playoff format is if they get the Kings-Oilers for year 6, if it does happen again. Now obviously the games tonight have to be played, but I think, I think LA wins and I think Nashville might beat Anaheim. We might have, we might have LA again, but I feel pretty good. Um, obviously the, the second round, based on what Vegas has done since Tortz came around— have you guys talked about that?

No.

By the way, yeah, I woke up this morning and I had a text. I'm in, I'm in a text with Blutman and, and these three guys in Merle's, and they were just jerking off to the Knights. They were talking about how incredible the Knights—

to be fair, their strength of schedule when they made the coaching change was very favorable. I'm not taking anything away from them, but that could be a little bit of smoke and mirrors.

Sounds like you They look fast all of a sudden and I don't know what happened because they looked slow and brutal most of the year, like the whole year basically. And now all of a sudden I'm, I'm a little wary of them second round, but I think them and Utah is going to be an incredible series. I think Utah's just up. Yeah. Like that, it's going to be a very, very special playoff, I believe. And Edmonton, yeah, we'll be in the conference final again. So yeah, then you're your final four. You never know.

But by the way, can you explain to me like what would be the analogy for torts in like the NFL? Where it's— I feel like he just jumps around, he fixes teams.

No.

And then he burns them out, and he's like— everyone's like, ah, we actually hate this guy, and then he's gone. But then he comes to a new team and it's like, oh yeah, this guy has just whipped us into shape, now we're playing the best hockey. Is that fair?

I feel like it doesn't happen. Oh, he's busy.

His finger locking.

Oh yeah, just finger lock.

It's not—

it wasn't—

you can't finger lock with your boys.

But the thing is, Big Cat, like, every guy Like you'd think everybody hates Tortz off the ice, but everyone who plays for him loves him as a guy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But, but is it like he does feel like he shows up and like he gets the most out of them and then maybe the message gets, maybe it's like a Harbaugh, Harbaugh kind of guy.

It's like when you're whipping the horse, right? How many, like eventually it's just like it stops responding.

Right.

And they, some of these coaches, they do have short shelf, shelf lives. I mean, the guy they had before him is kind of like that. Cassidy, every 3, 4 years. The guys start tuning them out. And the thing is, though, is I think when you go in there with that few games left, you're just basically going in as like a rah-rah, like, you know, just trying to keep the guys happy.

Like nice guy.

Yeah, nice guy.

So not, not your basic Tortz. And I think that from a Tortz perspective, he has like, he has kind of learned as he's progressed and he knows he's on the back nine of his coaching career. So it's kind of like, like, well, I was going to say bonus, but I think we saw his postgame press conference after the last game. But you're just, you're not whipping the horses hard, so to speak.

I think for him too, being a part of that Olympic, uh, team, he was just an assistant there. And from every, everyone I talked to, he was just like a great guy to be around, coached well, and just kept like the light, uh, I don't even think the mood like, yeah, he just kind of hanging out.

What's up guys?

He's taking a little bit, it seems like he's taking a little bit of that into the Vegas season. He's not coming in hot like he did with Philly or Columbus. So I don't know. Look out for them to put on a good run because after Germany's gonna be just carnage.

Oh, guys just going nuts. Fucking pussies with Gatorade coolers.

Whit, when you saw the Sabers billboard, were you like, there's no way this is real?

It's funny. I didn't even cross my mind that it was real. And then Dave's tweet where he wrote, is this real? I don't even think he thought it was real either. But then, but that made me be like, I, wow, like, is that real?

No chance.

And then boom, the first response underneath was the guy in the parking lot. And I, I couldn't, it was, I think it's honestly my favorite moment for personally in Chicklet history.

It's great too because given the history of the Sabers, like you, you had 14 years in a row to be exactly right. And then you pick this year. Like, it's all the funny thing. You showed up to a, like a roulette table. And you saw red 14 times in a row, you're like, ah yeah, let's go.

The craziest part was that I, a lot of people were like, sweet season preview. I was like, buddy, I said that December 7th.

Like, it wasn't even like, they literally turned it on the minute.

It wasn't, we were like 25 games into the year, I think.

Oh yeah.

But incredible by them. Like, I mean, like, they, that admin guy had been sitting in his basement for 14, I don't even, Twitter wasn't even around when they last time they were in the playoffs.

Yeah.

So, so they just waited and waited, and then he had tweeted out earlier like, it's going to be a great day, I have a lot of special things in store. And I had no idea. I still retweeted, oh, oh God, help me. And then they dropped the hammer of a billboard. And there's actually two billboards. I don't even— I think there's only two billboards in the city of Buffalo.

Oh yeah.

So they're both owned by Pergola. They're 100% Whitney.

Yeah, they're just Whitney billboards now.

It's good marketing. And it's got the trickle tat on right front and center.

So it's pretty sick. So why were you so convinced that they weren't going gonna make the playoffs. And then what did they do? I guess you could say like, if you spurned them on, they were brutal.

They were horrible again. And they've been horrible every year. I'm like, all right, this team's just done like this. And Biz had been saying, I think you were saying like, they're not done yet. They're not done yet. And I gave the 0.000, 4 zeros there right there, boys. And they fired the GM.

Yeah.

And we're like, oh, I mean, I don't know. Like, yeah, maybe. And then apparently Biz was told like the coach was possibly getting gassed too. They had won 3 games in a row to end a West recovery trip. They still fired the GM. I still— we're about to record, Chicklets. We'll get deeper into it. I still will never understand what happened. It doesn't make sense. You fire a GM, the GM doesn't even do anything. He already built the team. He's around once in a while. And I don't know.

All he did—

remember he said he came in and said, you guys are all playing for your jobs next year. Remember?

Yeah.

Like, oh, like everyone said, they all have 8-year deals for $8 million. Oh yeah.

Okay.

It's also their—

it's their job to play. Play.

They'd been playing for their job the past 14 years.

Well, yeah, no, their entire life. Like, but we're podcasting, we're podcasting for our job right now. Yeah.

Oh God, yeah, we are.

Wait, it's our job to podcast?

Yeah, I brought costumes today for my— for my players.

3 of them together.

Don't have 10% idea.

Trying to get it, but he doesn't.

Yeah, he'll get there.

No, I know we're podcasting for our jobs. It's our jobs. No shit, buddy. You think you're talking to Biz?

By the way, yeah, business.

Oh, it's great right now.

He doesn't get By the way, the Sabers, like, I just lost my train of thought.

It was a lot to figure out the podcasting for your job thing.

Oh, I did say I am very happy though. The whole time I was saying that, I think I let off that rant with the poor people of Buffalo don't deserve this. Like, I love that city. We've done Chicklets Cups there and they've come up to me year after year. What do we have to do? I say, you got to move. You got to leave the city.

I don't know.

There's no answer. Yes, sir. So I'm happy for them. Like, I love the fact that this has actually gone down and that they're, they're, they're a legit contender, I think, this year.

All right. So yeah, because I agree, like, that's a, that's a long streak. The city of Buffalo, they love, they only have two teams. They love their sports. Like the whole Jack Eichel thing probably was such a bummer when you're, you thought that was going to be the guy and then he gets, and then he wins, he wins a cup.

Yeah.

Like, it all sucked. All right. So let's do, let's do your Stanley Stanley Cup picks. Who's in the final and who do you got? I'm gonna put a future on whoever can convince me the most. Well, let's go left to right, so we'll start with Biz.

Uh, shockingly, uh, like, so now my playoff predictions for the, like, the first round series may contradict who I have going to the finals.

Wait, what?

Okay, just let me go.

Podcast, worst job for podcast, for my job.

Wait, so you're gonna eliminate your pick in the first round? Smart.

I, I, I really honestly get it. I get where he's coming from. That's where I'm going. I get it.

Oh, but then you can't do that.

You can't be like, no, I, it makes no sense, but I get what he's saying. But I was thinking the same thing.

You can't do, you can't be like, I got the Stars over the Wild, but I got the Wild winning the Cup. Yeah.

Oh my God.

No, but he can.

He can. His job.

The Leafs are gonna be relegated from the NHL. That's how big of a mush I am. I could do whatever the fuck I want.

Okay.

All right.

Go ahead.

I, I actually have the Pittsburgh Penguins meeting the Colorado Avalanche in the Stanley Cup.

Whoa.

No, but the Flyers winning the first round.

No, that makes no sense because you're gonna pick Pittsburgh in the first round. You just kind of like inceptioned all of us and then didn't even do the inception part.

For a good laugh though, uh, I'm gonna go Buffalo.

Wow.

And Dallas.

Okay, okay.

I'm going Tampa Bay versus Edmonton.

But you— but now give us the non-Edmonton pick.

Um, Montreal beaten.

Uh, no, no, it would be, it would be Tampa Bay versus, uh, Colorado, which would be a repeat of a final a few years back that went to 6. And Yans picked Dallas-Buffalo, which I know you guys are aware that that was the infamous Brett Hall foot in the crease goal. So the city of Buffalo would love, love a chance at redemption against the Dallas Stars. That would be unreal.

That would be incredible.

A lot of history between those cities.

Who are you guys rooting for?

Uh, Edmonton.

Yeah, I gotta, I gotta say Edmonton feels like it's Edmonton's year.

Yeah, such a piece of trash.

Edmonton.

Yeah, they said that with the Bills too though.

No, I I got to make a bet. I don't know who I'm going to put a future on. I get like, all right, I'll look at it right now. You guys tell me what the best like number is. I do need a team.

I got Edmonton, Montreal. Okay.

That would be— that would be the Cup guaranteed coming back to Canada.

That would be awesome.

I would say though, if Canada needs this, if— oh, you think? If I could handpick a team though, I would be so happy for Connor McDavid to finally host the Stanley Cup. Like, I know you guys rag on him.

Same.

No, him not being able to win the big one. But he is a machine.

Would you rather him win one or not win one?

No, we'd be—

I don't want him to win.

No, I really want him to win.

No, you don't. Game 7, I was gonna be there with you.

Yeah, betting on them, hoping that you won money, but if they lost, it was a win-win. Like, shut the fuck up. There's a— there's— everyone knows, all your listeners know what you guys are doing.

I don't think we I never do that on the show.

Bad cop, bad cop thing. No, you guys can't stand McDavid because you're miserable about your own teams.

Your whole—

your lives stink. You guys got nothing going for yourselves. You try to bring me down.

Bad cop, bad cop.

It's a great strategy. I mean, what kind of loser would we be if we bet on a team that we wanted to lose in the championship?

Yeah.

All right, all right.

So tell me, tell me this. You got it, Whit?

Yeah, I got it. But that's exactly what you were going to do.

No, well, he did that, remember, with Hank.

What?

He did that.

Poor Hank has to work with you pricks.

Oh yeah, poor Hank. Uh, all right, give me— all right, so I'm looking at the odds right now. Avalanche are 3 to 1.

That's brutal bet.

Brutal bet. Hurricanes are like 5 to 1. Lightning are 5 to 1. I'm not doing any 3 of those.

No, no, no, no, you gotta find a good— yeah, here's the 12 to 1s.

Yeah, I'm giving you, I'm giving you everything in the middle. We got the Stars at 10 1, Senators 13-1, Oilers 13-1, Sabers 14-1, Wild 18-1.

I think Dallas is the best.

10-1.

10-1.

The problem with the Stars though right now is injuries.

They gotta play the Wild.

No, but I know, but well, that they have the hardest division to come out of, right? Because now they're stuck in the Central. And then Haskinen hasn't played. They say he will be ready for game 1. And then Rupé Hintz, who's their number 1 center. So they're dealing with injuries again. So, and they have probably the hardest first round matchup of anyone.

So Sagan's out.

So Edmonton, Edmonton's 13 to 1.

Pretty good bet, boys. I'll tell you, like, if they, if they go to the Cup Final again this year, like, I, you guys will have to just say, okay, Whit, this team is incredible. I know I'm saying just go to the Cup Final, but of all the years of the past two, including, you know, and this one. They're so much worse than they were the last 2 years. So if somehow it happens again, I just don't see 'em losing cuz there's no Panthers to dumb me 'em down.

So 13 to 1 is a good bet.

Yeah, I like the Dallas one, but yeah, I think there's a, I just sprinkle a little bit on all, all those ones in the 13, 14 to 1, like Buffalo at 14 to 1, sprinkle a little bit.

He doesn't sprinkle.

He puts 15 grand on that.

Sprinkle.

He's a little sprinkle. Straight hose.

Edmonton 13-1.

Yeah, do it.

All right, great. You told me to do it, so now you can't get mad at me. I just did it. I literally just did it. Who has the worst odds?

The Ducks.

Ducks.

Boston maybe. Oh, Ducks.

Yeah.

Ducks, Flyers, Kings, Bruins.

Bruins.

Yeah.

The thing about the Ducks, Ducks are a little weak up the middle and they got Leo Karlsson, who's their first line center, who's young and inexperienced, but they got good goaltending and they have a really good— I like their back end, man.

They got a good—

They're built for playoffs.

They got a good back end and they're coached by Cube.

But yeah, you guys have picked everyone now.

Yeah. What's Vegas?

It's a wide open year.

Vegas is wide open.

I think this is the most wide open year we've seen in a long time.

9 to 1 for the Golden Knights right now.

Mm.

Merle thinks they're frauds.

So no, no, no, no, no, no.

He's back on.

Yeah. Remember this morning he said they look incredible.

He's back on. He's back on. Tort switched his, switched his mind around.

Yeah.

All right. But it's a wide open year. It's going to be a great playoff. It's going to be way better than that other stupid sport you guys cover.

Soccer, football.

The thing about hockey though is just like the— like it's turned into like, uh, the NBA but in a positive way with like the crazy like trades that have happened, like the coaching changes that have happened, like superstars getting traded. Yeah, like it's in a positive way. So they're essentially the headline hogs with all the rumors going on off the ice. So what a perfect year if you're a kind of like like a, a cusp hockey fan, but if you like sports, you gotta jump, jump on hockey playoffs.

I mean, there's nothing better than the Stanley Cup.

There's nothing—

there's really—

especially, especially with the— how good Olympics was. I know watching hockey after the Olympics was a little tough just because of, you know, the play kind of dipped a little bit, but it's gonna ramp up for playoffs and it's going to be an incredible couple months.

Yeah. All right, I got one last question. Thank you, boys, for doing this. By the way, I— we, we were actually joking, uh, yesterday. We were talking about like future guests in the playoffs coming up, and we're like, the best part about this time of year is we get to just go like eeny meeny miny moe down the line and have all three of you on like every other week. So thank you for that.

We love coming on.

Yeah, no, it's the best because like booking guests is not the easiest sometimes. It's like, oh yeah, we could just have the boys on. So this will not be the last we talk to you guys. Uh, Roback question. rhoback.com, promo code TAKE, 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com, promo code TAKE. Whit, on a scale of 1 to 10, how happy are you that Elio completed ICECON without you, so now you can be like, I'm a mush, I never have to go again.

It's, it's, it's one of the best feelings of all time. I mean, like, that every year. I love Elio, I love ICECON, the ICE people. It's an incredible event.

You brought your kids.

But I brought my kid. It was Whitney, I think. It was WhitneyCon.

Yeah.

And then, and then, but it's at a time of the year where we're kind of ramping up and it's just, you know, it's nice out and maybe I could play golf and now it's like, I'm done, I'm done forever. So it's a great feeling. I was happy for him and I don't think they get it done if I'm there.

So if he was forced to go to a few more, it would turn into like custody battle con.

Yeah, true.

Exactly. All of a sudden, yeah.

Fired up. What the fuck are you doing now?

Did you see my stat line?

Every other weekend.

I heard you were there for 2 minutes and there was 3 goals.

9 minutes, 2 goals. Pretty good fucking stat line.

Wow. Yeah, yeah. That would put you on pace for times— what is that?

6.

Put you up 8, 12 goals. 12 to 14. Yeah, that's my job. I'm podcasting for my job.

Do you think— I got a request. Do you think that Dave would be open if the Family Feud does like a few different Barstool versions? If the Chiclets crew could—

what do you mean?

I think you're talking about the Dozen.

No, he's talking about Family Feud.

I'm saying you just— Biz just invented the Dozen, which is having like—

wait, who's going on Family Feud?

Dave got offered to do Family Feud.

No way.

That's like my biggest dream.

I'm so mad. He was— it was gonna be me, Dave, Mincy, Rico, and Jerry. I can't—

no, no, Mincy's getting to do it.

Hold on, I can't do the date. So I told Dave, we just need to have— we got to do like— the Yak will do qualifiers of just the mutants. I think he's got to only bring mutants. He can't bring regular people, right?

No, because then they won't invite anyone else from bars.

It would be fun for, for like Chiclets to maybe go against the Barstool mutants where it would be us three 3, R.A., and then I mean obviously Merle would be good. I mean we could throw G in the mix, like whatever the 5th guy would be, but I know R.A. would, would smoke anyone.

He goes, you guys are kind of— yeah, still mute when it comes to Family Feud.

Yes, definitely. But yeah, no, I want it to be like Dave— think about like Dave, Rico, Che, White Sox Dave, Blutman. I want to get Blutman in there.

He's got to be on there. Yeah, no doubt.

I want to just—

Dave, he could end up hosting it after he's on there, like, you have to stay, sir. Look at you, you have We could do a full month.

I just want those Barstool personalities.

I want to see Steve Harvey just meet Frank the Tank for the first time and just like try to figure him out.

Yeah, losing team has to get Steve Harvey teeth.

Yeah, I'll do anything Steve Harvey does. I love that.

Absolutely, absolutely.

Wow, that's big news.

Winner gets to bring his daughter on a date.

All right, all right, who do they play against?

I don't know, it's a celebrity, so it's probably another show.

Oh, okay.

Wow.

Yeah. Yeah. So we got to figure out who's going to be on. I know I'm so pissed. It's, it's, I, I can't make it. It's my daughter's birthday and I fucking, I was like, when he said the date, I was like, God damn it. This has been my dream.

Yeah.

Talking about it forever. So, all right.

Yeah.

Mincy keeps failing upwards. What a life.

He's such a piece of shit.

Oh, dickhead.

Did you see the most recent thing? No. I said that he can go to the last 2 days of the spring break house in Vegas because I was like, you know, you're a full-blown enabler.

Hold on.

Hold on, Whitney. Just listen to me though. I agree. Someone actually said they— what did you say?

I said as long as it's not my house.

Yeah, he— so someone actually like replied and they're like, Big Cat is weak on crime. And I laughed pretty hard at that. But, uh, no, I was like, he's gonna go because the spring break house gets a little— they like last year after a couple weeks they like kind of got all nicey-nicey and it wasn't as fun. Like, we'll throw in Mincy at the very end. I told Mincy, you can't do poker. That's the only rule. First thing this fucking guy does, he goes, Big Cat said I can't do poker, he never said I can't go to fish. So he's just like, I'm going to fish. And he's like, oh wow. So I, I'm not, I'm not gonna send him anymore. It's crazy.

Cancel that trip.

He's trying to expense all of his clothes. He's buying new clothes on Amazon. He's trying to expense it.

Well, he didn't have any underwear for Vegas.

He bought 15 socks for a 2-day trip.

He's like, yeah, what does he have, 3 feet?

Oh, all right boys, you guys are the best. Go listen to Chiclets, best time of year. And we'll, uh, we'll talk to all of you in the next couple months.

All right, guys, see you later.

All right, peace, boys.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is baseball phenom, New York Met Francisco Lindor. He's here with Nutrafol, who is a wonderful sponsor of ours as as well, and we'll get to that later. But Francisco, thank you for being here in studio.

Yeah, I'm—

are you ready to get your mind blown?

I'm gonna—

I'm gonna blow your mind right off the start.

Go ahead and start.

You ready?

Start it like that. Go ahead.

This is a crazy day that you're here because you're here, uh, you have the Cubs weekend series at Wrigley Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Uh, we're gonna run this Friday, so people are listening to this tomorrow as we tape this on Thursday. Do you know that when you take the field for the Mets on Friday at Wrigley, you officially have played more games for the Mets than the Indians/Guardians. Is that not nuts?

That is not—

I always like, I couldn't believe it because it feels like it's only been a couple years, but then I looked it up, I was like, holy shit, he's— it's the exact 777 games played for both teams right now in the regular season.

That's, that's, that's, that's a cool stat. Yeah, I was— I didn't even have it in my mind. Yeah, thanks for bringing that.

Do you feel like you're— you are like comfortable and, you know, you're a New Yorker and you're a Met and like you've embraced all that?

I love New York. I love New York. The organization is great as well. And now that you mentioned that, I've told a couple people already, like, this is my 6th season. Yeah. It's like, damn, it's crazy.

Yeah.

It's crazy to think that I'm in my 6th year in New York. And I love the city. The vibes that we have. I love the city of New York. It's unmatched.

Yeah.

City of New York is unmatched.

Your stats are actually remarkably similar too.

I agree.

Like the first, yeah, the first 777 and the second almost identical. You've been like really consistent over your career. Was there, was there a change? Like when you got to New York, was there anything that you had to start doing differently?

Well, when I got there, the league was a little different, um, than it is today. You know, we have the DH now, and, and before it was pitchers, and like, it was a little different the way they pitched. But my game, I take a lot of pride in my game and just trying to be as consistent as possible. Just try to be the same person day in and day out, no matter what. And I haven't looked at stats. If you guys haven't pulled it up, I would like to see it. But it makes me happy that it's similar. Yeah.

It's 3,500 hits in Cleveland and 3,425 hits in New York. We got 508 runs in Cleveland, 514 runs.

3,500 hits in New York?

Oh, sorry.

Plate.

I'm looking at plate appearances.

Oh, right.

My mistake.

Hold up, now.

I got some records.

I got some more things to talk about.

Hold up.

Yeah.

But it is like—

896 in Cleveland, 782 in New York. You would set all-time records, who would beat Pete Rose's records if those original stats were correct.

Yeah.

I would guess that like your consistency is something you got to be very proud of because it does like, even in years where maybe you have slumps or whatever, it's like the end numbers look very similar and it's just a really, really good all-star MVP votes 6 times, like that type of player.

Yeah. And it's so tough to, I guess, have a good start.

Yeah.

Every year I'm like, I'm gonna have a crazy start this year. And then I start somewhere in the middle and then I finish where I'm going to finish. Yeah, every time. I just gotta find a way of like, you know, going and get going, get going, get going and keeping that pace the whole year. Yeah. But it's baseball, it's such a long year.

Yes.

There's so many ups and downs. And the downs, they feel even worse when the numbers are a bunch of zeros. Yeah. In the scoreboard. It's, it, it, it's, it's something that you look up and you're like, damn, that doesn't look good.

Yeah.

But then when you struggle in July or September, you look up and it's like, okay, I'm not as deep in the waters as I think I am.

Yeah.

Do you feel the pressure of like New York where you guys had a little bit of a slow start. Uh, you got some crazy rabid fans. Frank the Tank, our co-worker— I don't know if you're familiar with any of his work.

I, I've seen him.

Yeah, but they, you know, he— the sky is always falling for Frank the Tank. Do you have a message for Frank Tank? Be like, hey man, it's a long season, we're gonna— it's gonna work out.

Like, I don't think I'm on his good side right now, so—

oh no, I don't think anybody is. Yeah, yeah, don't, don't feel like you're alone on that.

Hey, he looks good losing weight.

Yes, yes, yes, good.

Franck, keep going.

I like it.

Kill him with kindness. Yes, that's good. Do you like the nickname Mr. Smile?

Yeah, I like it.

It's a good nickname. I saw Mr.

I'm a lover, I'm not a fighter.

Mr. Smile came out a little bit the other night, uh, in your plate appearance against Shohei Ohtani. Yeah, when he got you, it's like you knew that he got you as you were swinging, and with it, when he's locked in, it feels like there's nothing that you can do.

Yeah, um, he changed the rhythm the last pitch pitch. We got into a little battle, and I felt the whole entire time like I was winning the at-bat, and then he changed the rhythm last pitch and threw me off. And that's why I smile, because it's like, damn, he got me. Um, he pitched, girl, he pitched really good. It's the first time I faced him. I have years in the big leagues, he's got years in the big leagues, and I've never faced him.

That is kind of crazy.

Yeah, and the first time I faced him, and if he's doing stuff like changing up his mode, like you No, he was throwing hard. He got mad.

He got thrown first pitch of the game. I go, I look up, I'm like, okay, all right, all right, game on.

Yeah, he got mad last night. He said he can't dial it back 100% all the time, but last night he was like, okay, yeah, it's time for me to just like let it rip, right? Yeah, it was through like, I think, 5 pitches over 100 miles an hour.

Yeah, I think 3 of them were— 4 of them were to me. Yeah.

What's your, what's your favorite city to play?

Besides New York and Cleveland?

Yeah.

Because I'm biased with those two. I like Toronto.

Toronto's a great city.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Especially when they open the roof. It's a beautiful field.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With New York. So we used to live in New York for about 7 years. We went to a few Mets games. Do you have a way to get out to Mets games that's way easier than the rest of us? Because that was the one reason why I didn't like going. It took me forever to get to a game.

Yeah. Yeah, show up at 1 PM and it'll be easier.

Yeah, just leave early.

There's no traffic. So that's, that's literally the time we get to the field, 1 PM for a 7 o'clock game. We don't hit traffic. Now my wife, on the other hand, she hits traffic. Yeah, it's like that traffic, that rush hour, that's, that's the one that gets a little tricky.

Yeah.

So respect to all the fans that show up and make it on time. Yeah, yeah, because it's, it's hard do that.

It does feel like a special place to play when things are going well.

It's amazing. It's the, the way Citi Field gets together when things are going well. It's incredible. And it's— that's why I love it, because it's a city that you got to bring it every single day. You know, you, you sucked yesterday, but today you got to bring it. Or you play well yesterday, but today you got to bring it. You know, it's like, they'll let let you know. And I love that. I love that because it brings— you got to bring your A-game every single day.

Yeah, you get Grimace going in the crowd. That, that whole thing was special.

Yeah, I haven't seen Grimace in a while.

So is he a fair weather fan? I feel like Grimace needs to come back.

Yeah, he stayed 24.

Do you, uh, do you hate the Yankees?

Was it instant? No, no, no.

Oh, you don't?

No, no, no, no.

There's not gonna be—

like I said, I'm a lover.

Okay, um, but I mean, it is kind of— there is, you know, there's a divide. Like PFT said, we lived in New York for like— there is a very distinctive divide in terms of the fans in the city.

There is, but they're in the American League, we're in the National League. Like, we don't really— in our clubhouse, we don't really see it like that, you know. It gets— when it comes to Subway Series, those are fun because there's a lot of buzz in the city, and it's good for like barbershop talks. And like, whenever you walk around the city and you go to like, um, the bodegas, you know, like People are talking about it and like the trash guy talking to you, yelling to you, yelling at you.

That's—

it's a good time.

Yeah. Do you hate the Braves?

Do I hate— no, I don't hate the Braves.

You got to hate—

you got to hate somebody. No, you don't hate the Nats?

No, I hate—

no, the Marlins? Oh yeah, that would be funny if you're just like, I hate the Marlins.

Actually, aren't the Nats the most recent team in our division that won? No, the Braves.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2019, the Nats got it. Yeah, beat the Astros. That was pretty cool. But, uh, yeah, so you don't hate Hate anybody?

No, not really.

What about when you were losing? When you were in Cleveland, did you hate anybody?

Nah, nah, I don't. I'm not a hater.

Can I ask a question?

That's not within me.

Yeah, can I ask a question about the World Series? Because obviously I'm a Cubs fan, so that was incredible. Not— yeah, yeah, not— well, do you think they should have delayed the game?

Delayed the game?

Yeah, the, the rain delay.

I mean, it was pouring, wasn't it?

Yeah, I mean, they could have. I felt like it helped the Cubs a lot in that moment. But my real question sucks. Yeah, this sucks.

I hate that I lost. I hate that we lost. We should have won it, and I feel terrible for the people in Cleveland. And to all the Cubs fans, you're welcome.

Okay, so my only question about it is, when you were told that Trevor Bauer hurt his finger with a drone, were you like, that can't be real?

No.

Um, because he loved the drones?

He, it was, I mean, it was like, what? This is crazy. But he, he still went out there.

Yeah.

You know? Yeah. Trevor Bauer is a crazy competitor. Yeah. And yeah, he, he, he went out there. We, we had probably 3 pitchers that were down that weren't pitching. You know, Kluber pitched 3 games in the World Series. Yeah, that's insanity. Yeah, you know, and he, he, he's one of the best pitchers probably ever. Yeah, um, he pitched 3 times Tomlin. Um, Carrasco wasn't there, he got hurt that year. Bauer had a bad finger. Um, yeah, no, that, that team, it was a good team. Yeah, I enjoyed being around that team.

We have a lot of Cleveland people in this office. That was actually when you walked in, you took a bunch of pictures. Yeah, those were all Cleveland fans. And I told— I dropped the stat on him. I was like, did you know that tomorrow he's actually going to play more games for the Mets? Which again, that still kind of blows my mind. Yeah, because I don't know, I like— it's just time, time's moving too fast.

Yeah, it is.

Who's, uh, who's the toughest, the toughest pitcher you faced?

Toughest pitcher, um, David Price. I faced David Price in Toronto after he got traded to Toronto, and they were playing, they were making a playoff push, and the crowd got behind him, and he was just nasty. Chris Sale, every time I came to Chicago to face the White Sox and he was there, it was just like, all right, hope for to get one. Um, CeCe, CeCe Sabathia, nasty. Um, and then There's a guy that Garrett Richards, he, I don't think he played for a couple of years, but he was one of those pitchers that was like effectively wild. It was just this guy didn't pour out. He's not going to throw strikes. You'll be fine. Strike one, strike two, strike three.

Damn.

I look back like, hold up now. Yeah. Next time I'm like, all right, let me go. Let me swing. Ball. I swing.

Ball.

I swing. I'm like, all right. All right. Yeah. So he, He was really good.

Yeah.

How's it been going with the ABS, with the challenges?

I love it.

Do you have rules? Like if you use a challenge, you better get it right?

I mean, everybody thinks they're going to get it right.

Yeah.

But the reality is umpires are right more times than not. But I love it because guys stop complaining. You know, there's no arguing, oh, he messed me up. It's just tap, tap then, you know. I love that. Just tap, tap if you really are complaining about it. Tap, tap. Yeah, yeah. And then just that's it, end of the argument.

Yeah, it's speeding the game. I, I like it too. I, I think it's a good rule. We're going to look back in 10 years and think it was crazy that we ever had human beings that had to call balls and strikes.

It's kind of fun seeing the ball coming. Yeah, you know, like in the big screen, you see the ball coming, you're like, oh yeah, oh, he got it right.

It's crazy how I've said it multiple times on this show, like, it makes sense because you guys are professional athletes and professional baseball players, but when you guys will get it right as a ball like a centimeter off, it's like, how the hell did you do that? How the hell did you feel that?

I asked the same thing.

Really?

I haven't challenged anything. I don't think I will. I don't know the strike zone that Well, there's guys that—

That's a crazy thing for you to say because you're an incredible hitter.

Yeah, but just to be a hitter, you just got to be able to get the barrel to the ball.

Okay.

Yeah.

The guys, some guys are like, oh, that ball, it's like half an inch off the plate. I'm like, what?

Yeah.

Like, how do you know this?

So you don't think you'll ever challenge one?

I don't want to say I don't ever going to challenge, but I don't think I will.

Yeah, that's not your game.

It's just I'm, I move with the pitch as the ball's coming. There's times I go back to the plate, to the dugout, I'm like, that ball was right down the middle and it's 3 inches off the plate.

Wow.

And there's other times I'm like that, I look at the umpire like that ball is way off and I go back and it's like 2 balls in the strike zone.

So it's just like, so you're not an ABS guy.

Yeah.

That's not, you gotta challenge one now just to be so wrong. That would actually be really funny if you challenge a strike and it's just center, like right down the middle. And everyone's just like, what the hell? That would go viral.

And then they'll say Lindor was right.

It would be, yeah, either the best or the worst challenge of the year.

Yeah, that would be funny. Like, you guys got to put that together at the end of the year.

What are the worst challenges?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want to see you challenge one and be like, that was way outside. And she's boom, center.

Sometimes in football, the coaches throw the red challenge flag just when they're mad that something happened. Like, it doesn't matter if they were— if the referee was right about it, they just wish that it didn't happen. So they'll throw a flag, then the ref will go review and be like, oh yeah, we made the right call. You're just frustrated. But maybe I'm wrong, but it sounds like you're saying, like, when you're up to bat, you look at every pitch in terms of, like, can I hit this pitch? Yeah. Not necessarily like, is this pitch a strike?

Is the pitch in the area that I'm going to hit? And if it's not, then I I take, and if it is, then I swing. Um, and more times than not, I think it's an area that I, I get hit, right? You know, and when the ball— the ball is going so fast that when the catchers catch the ball, they're taught to like frame and bring it back to the plate. So I look back and he— the ball— sometimes catchers make it too obvious where it's just like they're bringing the ball from way out of sight into the plate and you see them like sticking in, you're like, yeah, that's a ball. But with this ABS stuff, catchers are trying, probably trying to trick batters too.

Yeah.

You know, catch the ball the wrong way even though it's a strike. So when the hitter looks back, they go, oh, that's a ball. They challenge and it was right down the middle.

I thought about that. That's a really good point.

Yeah.

Uh, we were talking before you, uh, before we started taping about some of the different places you travel on the road. We talked about Milwaukee for a second and the Pfister Hotel, and it's got a reputation as being haunted. We've stayed there before. We went ghost hunting in the Pfister Hotel. I think we found evidence.

You found it?

We found evidence of ghosts there. But you've had— have you actually encountered a ghost there?

I have not, but I've always said that if there is a ghost, he can't touch me.

Okay.

Ghosts can't touch you.

Why? Yeah, they can. What do you mean?

Well, you see movies, you put your hand through them when you're sleeping, though they can't touch you.

What if the ghost is like laying on top of you when you're sleeping?

Then I'm asleep. I don't know, I'm asleep.

But they can like knock stuff over.

I feel like you're tempting—

that's a little different, you know, when you see something moving, that's, that's a little different. Like in San Francisco, we had an earthquake and it was pitch black in my room and I felt the door going boom boom boom boom boom. I like get my flashlight immediately to to like see what's happening. And then I felt the door there, the bed. Yeah, you know, so if something like that happens in Milwaukee where I know there's not that many earthquakes, maybe it's a conversation the next day in the clubhouse.

Are you afraid of like getting, getting inhabited by a ghost? Like the ghost could take over you?

I don't think he's gonna take over. I just don't believe it.

Maybe if you're in a slump, you just say that. You're like, I stayed at the Pfister Hotel, it's not my fault, it's the ghost.

Yeah, the ghost is having a bad house.

The stocks of the hotel go down. Yeah, right.

You actually said something to me when we were walking in. I said, you know, you got to go try some ice cream and that Cal Raleigh hit 6 home runs after he had the ice cream on a weekend last year. And you said you're not superstitious at all.

I'm not. If— if Cal hits 6 home runs because of the ice cream. Yeah, I think he'll be having ice cream every single day in his mind.

Well, he might be, but I don't—

I don't believe it. I don't believe it's superstitions. Because to me, we all work way too hard to give the credit to the batting gloves, to give the credit to the bat, to give the credit to the cleats, to give the credit to the ice cream. Yeah. Like, it's, you know, like, yeah, we use those tools, help us. But if we prepare.

Yeah. No, listen, what you just said is the completely reasonable, like, well-adjusted, normal thing to say. But you're so right.

Wrong.

Like, everything you just said is wrong.

I started—

yes, you are talented, you've worked your ass off, all the credit should be to you and your hard work, but let's be honest, if you ate the ice cream, you'd probably have a lot of home runs.

Yeah, I started it in 2019. I got hurt, I tore my calf muscle, and I had to do so many things to get ready that I was like, I can't be superstitious, right? This is— I can't do the same thing every single day just because yesterday I played Well, like, it's just— no, just— and I stopped. And it's so—

you feel so free, right? I would imagine. Yeah.

Like, it's like, okay, I'm out of— I'm out of prison.

Yeah.

I'm not a prisoner of my own brain. I'm good.

Who's the most superstitious on your team right now?

Um, coaches are usually very superstitious.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Very, very superstitious. Because they can't play for us, right?

You know, yeah, that's, that's true. The fan's perspective, we're superstitious because we don't have any control.

Yeah. And it's crazy to me, it like, when my, a family member comes up to me and it's like, hey, we watched the game yesterday and I sat here, I need to sit here. I'm like, come on, like, that is not gonna help that basketball player make that shot.

No, you're wrong.

You're wrong about that.

Respectfully disagree.

It's very real. Did you get nervous watching the World Baseball Classic?

Very.

Did you have like superstitions?

I hate it, man. I, I, I, I'm more nervous watching the games as a fan than I am as a player. Yeah, it's, it's, it sucked. Yeah, it's not a good feeling.

How?

Yeah, I mean, I yelled, I cried, I was nervous. I'm like, what is this? This— I can't do this.

How fun is it? Because obviously this year you I know you didn't play in it, but how fun is it playing with those guys that like, you know, for country pride and everything? Is it, is it, does it feel different than playing in a regular season Major League Baseball game?

It does. It does. And be, and I'll tell you why. It's because growing up, you do the same thing as everybody else. It's like we all go to the same schools or we listen to the same music and we We all have same backgrounds. Then we get bigger, we make it to the big leagues. And then now we, we have so many different cultures, you know, and you show up to the clubhouse, there's country music and then 20 minutes later is rap and then there's hip hop, you know, it's different types of stuff, different type of foods. But then when you playing this tournament, it's like, I'm, I'm assuming the Americans are listening to hip hop and country music.

Mm-hmm.

Puerto Ricans is reggaetón all day. Venezuela with salsa and Dominicans with bachata, you know, and you eat the same thing. So it takes you back to where you were a little kid.

Get your kids together.

Correct. And then, and then after that, every game, it's an eliminating, like elimination game. So it's game 7 every single day.

Yeah.

And on top of that, you're in spring training mode. Yeah. And now you have to turn up that switch.

Yeah.

And it's game on. And the fans, and it's just like, it's— there's so much between those, like, a little nostalgia with like just the energy. It's like, wow, I feel like I'm a kid again, you know? It's just like everything matters. Yeah, it's, it's, it's really cool.

What did you think about, uh, about Italy having mostly players from America that like their grandparents were Italian.

You see, that's wrong. To me, that's wrong because when Italy didn't play well, people weren't claiming them. And now that they, they play well, people are claiming them. Yeah, that's wrong. They, they embrace the Italian culture. And yeah, the USA has the most players.

Yeah.

So if you can't make that team, you got to go somewhere else.

Yeah.

And they play well. I love their celebration. Their celebration was great.

Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, we probably should have—

and We lost to them. So that's—

we probably should have had Pasquotino on the American team. He's a good player.

You think he was going to play over Harper?

I don't know. He's awesome.

I love him. He's a great guy.

He has a lot of guys to choose from for the American team.

Yeah. I mean, Kyle Riley was playing— play out of 7 games, I think he played 2 or 3.

Yeah. Yeah.

And he just finished— he's finished 2nd MVP and hit 60. Yeah, you know, like it's Gunnar Henderson, a great shortstop playing third base. Bregman, you know, was in the bench and played there a little bit because Bobby Witt was playing short. Yeah, you know, like it's— they had a really good team.

Yeah, yeah.

Uh, we— so our guy Memes is in the booth. He's a massive Mets fan, huge Mets fan.

Much love.

Uh, Memes, you got any questions? I know you do.

Okay, will you throw him— will you throw him a ball when when we're— I have season tickets right behind the visitors' dugout. We throw them a ball when you see us on Saturday and Sunday.

Got you.

Like a little kid, you know? I mean, he's like— he's 30, but keep the headphones on down on the ground. Yeah. So you can grab those headphones so you can hear Memes. Awesome. Which actually, wait, before Memes goes, I'll say this. Your hair looks great. We're here with Nutrafol. Long season. It's awesome that you— because Nutrafol is a sponsor of ours. You just do stuff with them. Yeah, they're—

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Yeah, this whole time Memes has just been getting more nervous.

Yeah, I'm getting nervous.

You got this, Memes.

You also, Zach, you got to ask questions.

Yeah.

I have one quick one.

How sick was that feeling after hitting that grand slam against the Phillies?

It was a fantastic feeling. Feeling, but I was so in the moment that that's what made it even cooler. Like, I remember hitting the ball, and as I hit the ball, I said, double. Then the next step was like, I got him. And then the next step was like, breathe. And the next one was breathe. And then it was like, okay, give a handshake to the first base coach. Like, I was so in moment, that, that's what made it even cooler for me. Because I have hit home runs, I hit home runs in Cleveland and I blacked out. I yell, I ran around like a little kid just yelling and celebrating, and then you don't remember so much. But I remember every step I took, what I was thinking.

That's—

yeah, yeah, good question.

That's got to feel like you're floating.

Do you remember seeing the apple come up in center center field?

I was looking at the bullpen, um, people. I did, I did not look at the apple. Next time I hit a home run, I'll just make sure I just look at the apple.

You just salute the apple.

What about off that, what about, uh, Pete Alonso's home run against the Brewers? How was, what was the dugout like after that?

That was, I was on base.

Yeah, but like when you guys all get back, you're like, holy shit, that, because that was, that was a true playoff moment.

That was, it was one of those moments that, you know, Pete's gonna do it, but you hope he does it, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's like, I know he's going to do it, I hope he does it, right?

You know?

And, uh, so boom, he hits the ball and it's like, holy shit, he did this! This is crazy! And we were all sick and hugging each other and yelling, and I remember like trying to tell the guys like, get back in it, get back in it, get back in it, because we still had to go out there, you know, for one more inning, right? And everybody kept on saying that, like it wasn't just me saying get back in, it was just everybody was just like, hi, concentrate, concentrate, you know? Yeah, we gotta finish the job.

Yeah, because you're so hyped up. Yeah, go ahead, Memes. Uh, just a follow-up question, has anybody mentioned it to Devin Williams? The locker room? No, no, no, no.

And I don't think I have— I've gotten a hit off Devin, so I just— I can't really talk to him about that home run because he's gonna say I struck you out like 3 times already.

So yeah, yeah, go ahead, memes. You got more? Uh, he wore his Mets, his favorite memes.

You have— you have lots more.

Come on, memes.

I do.

Uh, who's the best pitcher you play with? And, uh, Uh, I guess it's follow-up. If Noel McClain might be the best one.

Best pitcher I play with? Well, deGrom, nasty. And Kluber, nasty as well. They both have two Cy Youngs and Max Scherzer and Verlander. This is crazy. I just thought about this. I play with some legit pitchers.

Yeah.

You know, I think they all might be Hall of Famers.

Yeah.

I should start collecting jerseys. From them.

Yeah.

Baseball Hall of Fame. So hard to get in. Yeah, it's so hard.

Yeah.

Would you go in as an Indian or as a Met?

Me?

Yeah. Yeah.

I got a long way to go.

Okay.

I got a long, very diplomatic answer.

I got a long way to go. I'm, I'm, I'm trying to hit.200 this year.

You have 6,000 hits. I don't know if you, if you remember what I said earlier.

Yeah.

Start making the plays. Zach, I know you got some questions too.

I've got a quick one.

I was just curious with like, 81 games on the road in a season. Is there any like any cities you kind of gear up and get excited to travel to? And on the inverse of that, are there any where you're like, ah man, I'm not really looking forward to heading here?

I think when you go into cities, it's not so much the city because we get into the routine, you just go into the field. It's more the travel, like the long flights. That's like, it's just get, you get tired.

Of them.

Um, I do like coffees with good cities. I mean, cities with good coffees.

Okay. Like that. Yeah.

Um, cities that have good coffee, it's— that's—

that makes it easier.

It makes it so much easier. And like, you get to like walk and you sit down, you find like this smaller places like that have like really good coffee. You sit down, you open your computer and and you just hang out for a little bit and then you go to the field. It makes it so much better. And I used to, I love clothes and I used to get super excited to like come to Chicago, Toronto, New York, LA. But now I live in New York. Now it's just like I don't go shopping.

You got all the clothes here.

Yeah, I don't go shopping anymore in two cities. So like I do walk around just to sightsee, but like I'll be walking around here in Chicago, but everything they have here, they have in New York. So yeah, yeah.

Oh, I got a question about the superstition thing. Back to it. I know that it's probably weird.

You're trying to get me to be—

No, but you said 2019 you stopped, right?

Yeah, yeah.

Does that mean before you were?

Yes, yes.

So were you superstitious when you guys— What was the— What was your win streak? 22 games in 2017? That was crazy. I mean, I think anytime a baseball team gets past like, you know, whatever, call it 12-15, and you've won 4 or 5 series in a row, it's like, holy shit, how are they doing this? Because it's so hard to win game in, game out.

Yeah.

Were you superstitious during that? What were you guys doing in the clubhouse?

I don't remember what I was doing, but I do remember walking or driving to the field and asking, who's pitching today? And from, from our team, and, and be be like, oh, Kluber, well, good luck. Yeah, who's pitching today? Oh, Bauer, well, good luck. Oh, who's pitching today? Carrasco, well, good luck. You know, it's just like every, every day it was like we have such a good pitching staff that winning was the only option. Yeah, you know, so it was just people were talking like, how are you guys doing this? And like, well, it's—

look at our pitchers.

We don't— yeah, we don't expect anything else. Like, yeah, our pitchers are gonna go 7, and then here comes, um, Miller, here comes Cody Allen and Shaw, you know. Francona had his guys and they were gonna pitch every single day. Yeah, you know, it's just like, just the, the, the wheel was going. Yeah, it was just, it felt, it kind of felt very smooth, like there was no, like Holy shit. Today.

Bam. Yeah. Like, hope we keep going. But 22 is nuts because, I mean, you think about the best team in Major League Baseball every single year is going to lose a third of their games.

Yeah.

And so 22 in a row.

Yeah.

Is insane to look back at.

It was almost a full month.

Yeah. Crazy. Yeah.

That's crazy.

That's a good month of work.

Yeah.

What's— do you, after a game, ever check Twitter to see what Stephen Cohen says about the team?

No, no, I try to stay away from it.

It's probably smart.

I try to stay away from Twitter.

That's very smart.

Twitter could be nasty, and I'm, and I'm the type of person that reads 20 good comments and read that one, and it's just like, ah, you know, it, it like makes you feel some type of way. So I try to stay away from it.

That's very normal. Like, that's all of us. Yeah, we all go through that where it's like you could read 75 things that are all really nice, then one guy's an asshole and you're like like, well, that ruined my day.

Yeah, well, I don't have a room a day.

For me it does.

Yeah, but I do feel some type of way for sure. Yeah, so I try to stay away from it. Yeah, um, and I just stay in like the— when people post stuff rather than like what they say about me. Yeah, yeah, I only watch videos of myself. I don't watch what people say.

What kind of—

like what videos?

Me hitting home runs, highlights, making plays.

Yeah, that's gotta be just to get yourself— like, do you ever like go on YouTube And just type in like Francisco Lindor home runs?

Of course.

Of course.

That's awesome.

Of course. Francisco Lindor highlights 2019. Francisco Lindor highlights 2020. Francisco Lindor highlights 2021.

Are you watching it being like, damn, I'm good?

Yeah. That's the main reason.

Yeah.

To like—

The confidence?

Yeah. Feel good about yourself. You know, like we struggle so much. Think about it. If I have 756 at-bats and I get 180 hits. 80 hits, I had a really good year.

Yeah.

So that's, I've gone many times in my career 0 for 40, 0 for 35, I think, 0 for 30, something like that. Many times in my career. That's 6 days without getting a hit.

That's brutal.

4 days, 5 days, 4 days without getting a hit. That sucks.

Yeah.

It's not a good feeling going to the, to the field. So you gotta watch some Dig Me videos for sure.

Yeah. What, what would be like the one that you would go to the most if you, if you're trying to get out of slump?

Like highlights or swings?

Yeah, yeah. Like what, what video would you look up if you're, if you're feeling down?

Well, 2019 was a good season. 2018 was a good season. 24 was good. Yes.

You type in like Francisco Lindor 2018 highlights.

At this point now I have the video guy make me the video.

So, oh, that's perfect. You got your own highlight.

Yeah, I got my own highlight.

What if he slipped in like a Frank the Tank? I told him, like, rant in the middle of it. Just keep you humble.

Frank don't do it for me.

Frank is not a lover.

You know, he don't do it for me. No, you don't do it for me. Uh, yeah, it's— at this point I got the videos. Uh, I'm trying to get him to make me like videos with songs and stuff.

Yeah, that's awesome. I guess we kind of have the same thing here.

So they do a video of you guys walking into a studio.

Yeah, it would be sick. But at Barstool we do the reverse where our guys make videos of us looking terrible because they're— that's the funniest way.

You always get the most traction.

Yeah, those get you pumped up.

Yeah, they make us look fat and stupid and they're like, hey, look at this. But those get the best views. Yeah, I guess that's like our hitting a home run.

Hitting a home run is actually like the op— like when you strike out, that would be like the best thing that we could possibly do. Oh yeah, it's like strike out and look really stupid doing it.

Yeah.

And then Memes, it's his job to, to put that out, amplify it, amplify it and let everybody see it. And then Memes is like, that clip's doing really good. Yeah, of you looking like an an asshole. And then we're like, great, this is mentally healthy. Thank you, memes. I got this. Might be a dumb question about playing defense versus offense, but we always talk about being in a slump on offense. There are times in a long season where you go through a slump. You have to like, you know, keep your eye on the big picture. If you're in a slump defensively, how do you get out of that?

You want the ball to be hit to you. You want it. You want the baseball to be hit to you. You want it. And, um, struggling defensively, sometimes you can feel lonelier than struggling offensively. Um, because struggling offensively, there's 9 of you contributing. Um, and then defensively, you make an error, it can cost the game. So like, it could be a little more— that's why I don't know how relievers and starting pitchers, I don't know how they do it. Like, think about it. You go to work every 5 days, and if you don't succeed that day, you got to wait another— yeah, 5 days. That's— that sounds not good.

Yeah. Like middle relievers too, where like, or like specialists.

Yeah.

Who like are coming in for one inning or for like, you know, 3 batters. And it's— and, you know, they— a lot of them are really, really good. But if you just fail once, like, oh shit, you just cost us the entire game.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how they do it. You You know, we position players, we get so many reps and we get so many tries, like we can make up for what we do. But pitchers, it takes longer for them, you know? So I don't know how they do it.

How— when you're going through the season, is there a moment where it's like, oh man, this season is long? Is there like a— I know it's dog days of summer, but is there a part where you're like, damn, my body just needs a break? Because you've played a lot of your seasons, you've played, you know, every game minus 2 or whatever it is. You don't take off?

Yeah, it's— for me, it's usually the beginning, like April and like July, like somewhere around there. Yeah, August doesn't really feel that bad for me because— yeah, because I see—

see the—

yeah, I see playoffs. Okay, here it comes, get ready for it. April, it feels so damn cold. I know, you know, it's cold and it's just like like days are longer and, and then you're trying to like pace yourself for the year. And then there's July where, yeah, there's All-Star break, but it's like, it's that time where for me it's like, damn, I'm tired.

Mhm.

Um, and then after that it's like, all right, let's go.

Yeah.

Feels like there—

the All-Star break isn't even much of a break break at all if you made the All-Star? No. Yeah, it's not— it's, it's the greatest event of the summer, but you don't get a break. It's like you're constantly getting pulled in different directions.

Yeah, yeah, I imagine that. By the way, I, I had— I gotta try to find it. I was, I was doing some research and I found, if you, if you're talking about pump-ups, uh, stuff, uh, someone wrote an article that things that Francisco Lindor has never done. And it was pretty cool because it was like, it was, it was all good. It was like Francisco Lindor has never hit less than 12 home runs in a season. Francisco Lindor. It was good. It was like, it was basically like he's never done these things, but they all were good things. So that's how good you are.

That's good.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Francisco Lindor has never been an average hitter. Like statistically, you've never had a year where you were just like average or below average. Never hit fewer than 12 home home runs, missed 40 games. You never missed 40 games.

I don't know.

No, in a season. I don't think so. Yeah, that's the durability is crazy.

How many home runs do you have? Do you know off the top of your head?

200 and—

what if you get this exact—

57?

No, 280.

Whoa.

Oh, 280. I don't have— I don't have the record. Records.

Okay.

In front of me, I'm pretty sure Cal Ripken Jr. has the record for most home runs as a shortstop.

Got it.

I'm pretty sure.

Maybe A-Rod. A-Rod.

Yeah, it feels like it. I mean, obviously he had a lot as third baseman too.

Uh, Cal Ripken played so many games.

Yeah, I feel like it probably— and all it says, yeah, it says Cal Ripken.

I feel like you, you might be— it might not be the craziest thing to say that you could do that. You could surpass Cal Ripken, right?

You're, you're the—

I'm working on it.

Leader.

That'll be an honor.

Yeah, you're the active leader for, uh, shortstops.

Maybe I need ice cream.

Yeah, maybe. Yeah, get a couple more.

Who, who were your like heroes growing up?

Who'd you look up to? Roberto Alomar was my guy. Larkin was also my guy. Um, like Jeter for sure. Um, yeah, those, those guys were, were the people I said, you know what, Jimmy Rollins, Jimmy Rowling was the guy that like made it more realistically. Yeah, because it's smaller, switch hitter. You're like, okay, yeah, that's, that's me. I'm not gonna be 6'3", so yeah, yeah.

Um, all right, well, this has been awesome, Francisco. We appreciate you coming. I got one last question for you. It's a Rowback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com, promo code TAKE, 20% off your first purchase. Q-tips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Rowback.com, promo code would take. We mentioned at the start, early in the season obviously hasn't been the best start, but can you give maybe a message to Frank the Tank like, hey, listen, man, it's going to be okay. We're going to— you're going to figure it out.

Frank, keep losing weight. We got to try to win more games so your stress levels stay at a good place. And we got this.

Okay, that's nice.

And then if we don't, then you can just boo boo us, uh, boo me, um, next time we're home.

He will, he will.

Yeah, he'll take you up on that offer, I'm sure.

Uh, my mic stand just broke.

That was Hank. Yeah, I know. I was like, hey, we won't repair the studio. I have—

didn't do anything.

I have one last, last question, and, uh, you can tell me if this is the stupidest question you've ever heard, but—

oh, it's stupid.

Okay. Yeah, no, you're right. If I play— if I played on the Mets, like, I would sometimes get distracted by Mrs. Met. Have you ever been distracted by Mrs. Met?

She's hot, No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I'd say put it away.

Respect the ring.

Respect the ring. Yeah, respectfully. I'd knock it out of the park. Yeah, respectfully.

Yeah.

No.

Okay, okay.

We disagree. I guess we have different tastes in women.

You guys would be surprised who Mrs. Matt is.

What?

I don't want you to finish this thought. I don't want you to finish this thought.

Oh, well, Francisco, thanks so much. Much for coming by, man. Again, Nutrafol, great product, uh, great advertisement for us, does great work with Francisco. Use promo code PMT when you go to nutrafol.com today. And thanks so much. Good luck, rest of the season. Not too much luck this weekend.

We need it, we need it. Yes, yes, we, we need it, and we're gonna be good.

Now listen, I offered you ice cream. If you take the ice cream, you'll probably hit a home run, but now I'm not gonna. All right, good. Now no one can blame me. I appreciate it.

Thanks, man. Thank you.

Thanks, man.

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Okay, Fire Fest of the week, Henry.

Yes, uh, Fire Fest. I Sad.

What?

Live sad.

Yeah, very sad. But, but it was sadder yesterday when people were acting like the tournament wasn't even gonna happen and it was over immediately. Not the case. Uh, I was though, I was doing laundry yesterday. I do have like a laundry in my unit, but I, in my building we have like a big laundry room. So sometimes if I'm trying to just bang out laundry, I'll go down there and do like 3 or 4 loads at the same time. A lot more efficient. So I was doing that yesterday. I was waiting, uh, for my wash to get done and like 5 minutes left. So I pull up a video on my phone, I'm watching it, and all of a sudden, uh, it goes from playing out of my iPhone speakers to connected to my AirPods. Didn't have my AirPods case on me, so I was like, that's weird, I don't have my AirPods on me. Realized that my AirPods were in my pants, which were in the washer.

So they're dead?

They can survive.

I think they survived, but it doesn't— it doesn't sound good.

I've done it.

So that's— that's probably like pods number 10 down.

I got it. I got to take—

but yeah, it was tough. It was a tough realization where I was like, how— where are my AirPods on? They're not— like, it wouldn't have connected. They're up— they're upstairs. That's too far to connect.

Yeah.

Don't have my case on me. Like, how is that possible? And then I realized, like, oh, fuck.

I think becoming mature has meant for me that I'm going. I, I've stopped even trying to own AirPods.

That was going to be my take.

I gave up.

I, I, I don't know if this is a hot take or if people agree. I, I think AirPods fucking suck.

Yeah, I gave up.

They just— they're— you lose them, they're never— like, the charging, everything, it just sucks. I'd rather have wired headphones.

You won.

Yeah. Are, are wireless just the, the actual headphones that go around your ears?

Yeah, like the big Bose ones.

Noise canceling. I've given up completely. It's a sick joke look that they even made us try to work with these things for the last 10 years.

They made the technology too— it's too small, it's too hard to keep track of. They figured out a way to basically say, hey, we're going to make this thing that looks cool, that you're going to want to buy, that you're going to lose or break or lose again, and then you're going to have to rebuy it. Yeah, 100% out on AirPods.

Really, half the trick of starting a business is making a good product that your consumer will lose constantly.

And the biggest scam going is if you lose the case, you can't just buy a new case.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, I've been out on AirPods for a while now because it's also just— and especially if you have multiple, like, you know, AirPods in the house, and then you connect to— like, I've connected to my wife's AirPods and she connects mine. You figure it out, like, there's, there's just too much Bluetooth going around. I'm out. I can use wired headphones, no problem. So just go to wired. And also, the best part about wired headphones is you can lose them and you don't give a fuck. They're like $30. $3, you lose them. Yeah, I have, I have like probably 10 pairs of wired headphones just scattered in very like couple in my car, couple in my office, couple in my house, like random coats. I just know that I'll always be able to figure out where there's wired headphones.

I also have like one earbud of like 4 different sets of earbuds.

Yeah. Like a left sock.

Yeah. That are around my house. I like for some reason just hang on to them in case I find the other one and the case.

So now you're Free Hank, just get done with it.

Yeah.

Wired. Wired life.

Wired for life.

Yeah.

Move on. This also probably is me showing that I don't work out very often because I feel like that would be the one people are going to respond and be like, yeah, wired headphones suck when you're trying to work out. And I just completely forgot about that. There is— it's not part of my life.

It's not that bad.

People worked out with headphones before.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But that is— I just dawned on me that is going to be the main, like, dude, way to show that you don't work out. Yeah, guilty as charged. Yeah, for sitting.

Yeah. My Fyre Fest of the week is— I've had actually a really good week. I've enjoyed my week so far. But there was one thing that happened to me yesterday, which is the handicap police are on my bumper again. And I think it happened a little bit last year too. But now I've got people being like, you're lying about your handicap because I was talking about the whole brake breaking 110 thing.

For a second there, I thought you were talking about your car bumper and my handicap sticker.

No, the fun thing you do—

people don't know that about PFT. He does illegally have a handicap sticker.

So somebody asked me what my handicap is. I say I'm 5'8". Yeah, that's a funny joke that everybody likes. Uh, but no, people are— people are mad about my handicap. My handy— I, I was perfectly transparent when I was talking about the breaking 110 thing. Right now, since it's been out of season, Chicago Chicago, I've been using the 18 birdies handicap to log some of the rounds, which is a little bit different from the GHIN. But people are looking up the GHIN, Hank, as, as you know, and then they're like, you're a 20. Yes, on GHIN, 100% 20 handicap. And it, it— the Fire Fest really for me was the fact that for the first time I started to care that people were like, you're lying about your hand. I think that's part of the stages. Yeah, becoming a golfer is like having to defend your— last year people were like, that's not your handicap. And I was like, that's very funny that people care.

Yeah.

Now I'm like, fuck you, I will prove to you that that is my handicap. And it's just, I feel like that's, that's becoming old or becoming just like more into golf. But yeah, that's really, that's the worst thing that happened to me this week.

That's a good week.

That and also like staying up until midnight last night just thinking about how the spear goes through the W and giving me a lot of anxiety. Anxiety.

Yeah, I had two quick ones. One was, you guys know this because I texted the group. I just, I don't know why, but I will actually do know why I'm going through. We're doing some construction in my house. And I just hadn't turned on my computer in my, in my basement in like 3 months because we haven't had to record Zoom lately. Just didn't know my computer password and just sat there typing in, I don't know, 75 variations of it. So frustrated to the point that I had to call all business this Pete and be like, tell me my password. He actually knew it, which is also scary.

That's concerning.

He just knows all my passwords, but I'm happy that he does. But yeah, I, I think it's part of like getting old and I don't, I don't know, I just not knowing your pa— having to call someone to be like, what's my password? Is probably the oldest you could possibly feel about anything.

Yeah, that's actually way, way worse that Pete was like, actually, I do have it.

It took him a while, but then he got it. Too old guys getting the passwords. Yeah, I texted you guys, be like, who knows my password? No one did.

So my advice was to just walk around for 5 minutes and then try again. That's like, that's how I— yeah, it's like unplugging your body and plugging it back in.

Well, it's also, I had a moment where I just, I realized too, like, I, I've said this before, but like, if I ever get like a catastrophic injury or anything, like, just shoot me like a horse. I'm a give up guy. There was a moment where my wife was trying to help me and I was like, fuck this, I'm just throwing this computer in the trash. I'm just gonna go buy a new one tomorrow. She's like, that is the most ridiculous thing ever. And then finally we got it. But yeah, I do give up quick.

You can figure out if you had to how to do a complete reset of your computer.

Yeah, maybe. And then the other one was just— I just every now and then with little kids, I think this is relatable. People have kids that they get, they get zingered and they just have no response. I was, I was having a disagreement with my son, my soon-to-be 7-year-old last night where he wanted me to go get him something. And I was like, you get it, you have two feet, go get it. And he's like, I went to school all day. I ran around. I went to recess. I went to the gym. You went to work and sat all day. And I was like, yeah, you know what? You're right. I'll go get it.

Yeah.

Like, he just nailed me. I was like, I went through, I cataloged through my day. I was like, yeah, I actually sat for 99% of my day.

So that's what we do.

And that was a little, that was a little hurtful to just be like, yeah, I did sit all day.

You know who else sits all all day? Race car drivers. That's a hard job. Pilots, they sit all day.

People with, with irritable bowel syndrome.

FDR, and he won World War II.

Facts. I am going to start back up the Chinese workout. Maybe Sunday will be the first day. We'll go live. We got to do it. Got to do it. Got to get, got to get— it's t-shirt weather. Zach.

My Firefish of the week is just housing. I've got an apartment where my lease is currently coming up. And I was thinking about maybe branching out, moving somewhere else, You know, I mean, the administration at the current apartment complex have had some bad reports. Yeah, we just— so I thought maybe fresh start, we figure something out. And there's two routes you can take. You go, you can maybe go manage building, but guess what? Nobody's calling you back. And also, if you try to go like a guy who gets you into the building, he— there's like a secret code where they don't want— they'll show you a video, but they won't tell you where the apartment's at. They won't say the name of the building or the street unless you confirm that he's your guy. It's like, feels like insider trading. And then you can go the independent route, but like every apartment I call independently, you look up the address and find out it's not a real place. It's a scam and they're using fake photos. So it's like you either get scammed by the managed building guy or you get scammed by the independent guy who doesn't even live in Chicago.

He lives in different country and he's just posting photos online at a good rate.

And I have a question for you.

I have a question for you.

I have a question for you.

Do you know that realtors in Chicago are free for rentals. They cannot charge you. A realtor cannot charge you to find a rental.

It's not like New York.

New York, they weren't trying to charge me, but they won't give me any information.

How could they be?

Let's get an AWL realtor to help you.

Yes.

They're like, they're like, just get a realtor, it's the easiest.

Someone listening to this right now is a Chicago realtor who will get you a fucking pimp pad, a pimp palace. I want Zach, I need you to have multiple rooms.

That would be huge for square footage.

I—

you can afford multiple rooms?

That would be huge for square footage. Yeah, that would be huge.

So when you're—

when are you moving?

End of June is when my, uh—

let's get it! Let's get Zach an awesome apartment.

How many doors do you have right now?

One.

Interior doors too?

Three.

Wait, what?

A bathroom— we got— I have a washer dryer door, bathroom door, front door. Three.

Washer dryer has a door. Okay.

Bathroom door.

He's got one. He's got one interior door. Yeah.

So you have no bedroom door.

No bedroom. Studio.

Yeah.

Let's get you some rooms. I want you to have— we got to get 2, maybe 3 rooms.

Yeah.

3 is gluttonous. But what is that when you start accumulating stuff?

You know, you could have 3 rooms. You could have a room that you stream in. You could have your living room.

You could have your bedroom.

Imagine.

Yeah, you're right, though. Actually, the 3 rooms might be great. Like, that could be all time. But if you got these Chicago—

let's start with one.

Let's start with one. Let's start with—

let's look to— we want to—

we need a bedroom.

A bedroom and a living room.

I find these guys on TikTok. I got these apartments, and you hit them up for the apartment, and they're just like, well, if I tell you where this building is at, you're my guy. And if you try to go to this building without me, there's an issue.

All right, so no more TikTok. It's like the mob. We need a— we need a real Chicago realtor who's listening to this right now. I know there are some that are listening to this. Email Max's Bachelor Party, whatever. Or what is it? What's the email?

Ptbachelorparty@gmail.com.

Let's get you a realtor. Let's get you— I want you in a fucking pad, dude. You know what? I want you— I want to say right now, I'm going to put this out there. Let's say July. Let's say July 22nd.

What's—

what day of the week is July 22nd?

Look it up.

July 22nd. Day of the week.

Days of the week.

So Wednesday, do days of the week. All right. July 22nd. Pardon my take. We'll have a new episode that will be taped live from Zach's awesome apartment. We're going to get in there and we're going to tape one episode on the 21st.

A home game.

Yeah.

Oh, goodness.

Would be sick, right?

I'm going make sure fridge is stocked for you boys.

The boys just hanging out in your pad.

Zach, how did you find this one? What are the steps you went through?

I found a guy on TikTok.

Yeah. And so what was that process?

It was that—

that was another thing where he had one apartment.

I was out of state, so I couldn't like tour the apartments. It was like, I kind of just am going off faith here. Like, hopefully this guy is not just— hopefully this apartment is real. And he— I got the information from him. I seen some videos, but he again, he was like, I'm going to hook you up with this apartment complex. Complex. But if you go in here and I told you about it, if you try to talk to them without me, they won't give you the apartment. So I had to like FaceTime him with the lady who did the tour. We did a 3-way call. And I think I got banged.

But—

so I'm not gonna use that guy again. But yeah, TikTok, Instagram was my only— 'cause I was trying the websites, but when you pull up the independent housing on the websites, you search the address on Google Maps and it's like, this is an apartment, this is a pizzeria, right? Yeah, there's a lot, there's a lot of that.

We're gonna need you hooked up with a reputable realtor.

We got you.

And then I'm hearing stories locally, guys who thought they had reputable realtors and then they're getting banged too.

All right, well, we'll get someone who you can trust. And guess what? If they fuck you over, we're just gonna bash them on the show. Cyberbully? Yeah, absolutely. That's what's at stake. Do you— whoever, whoever applies to be Zach's Realtor, just know you have to do him right. Otherwise you're getting the wrath of all of us. We got to protect our boy, you know. Bros got to stick together. I gotta defend you.

And if we do the home game, I could even cook for you guys.

Oh, that would be great. That'd be great. Max, Christopher, and Connor, do you guys have anything? I love the two Cs.

Christopher, Connor, you know, standard stuff. I'm addicted to baths. And actually, I shouldn't said this and—

oh, I'm okay.

You were in the bath the other day.

No, no, I didn't shit the bath. You're also having— I'm also having some, some shitting problems this week out of your pussy. But I don't want it to make it seem like I'm shitting in the bath. That's why I was—

that's why I was like, now it sounds like you're not shitting in the bath. Did you accidentally shit in the bath?

I didn't actually. I've just been— I'm— we started talking about—

I'm not—

I've taken a bath to start my day. Every day.

So today you did?

Oh yeah, but it was at like 6 a.m. I woke up early because I had to shit.

Yeah, it's—

oh, and then you just went right into the bath?

No, no, no, I went back to— I, I woke up at 5, rolled off the toilet.

Is it your bath? It's just the biggest bidet ever is your bath.

This is incorrect. This is incorrect.

Okay. But yeah, now I'm starting to think like around 8:30 in the morning, I'm like, Max is probably naked right now in a bath.

That's been like guaranteed every day.

Oh, I don't need that. Connor.

I'm fat. No, no, I'm fat.

I'm sick of you complaining about this.

This is my life.

You've had one day where people called you fat online and you've acted like it's the worst thing in the world. It is every single thing that I post.

All right.

Not everything's about you.

Also, like, you've been—

you have been crying. It's all we've heard.

Let me explain it.

Go ahead.

Are you done, Max? Are you done?

So we have a golf video coming out Sunday.

Everyone should go watch it on the part of my take.

YouTube almost broke the podcast apart. Oh, you do look— Yeah, I look fat as fuck. Oh, geez. So memes, what was that?

It was a bad tuck.

Yeah, yeah, I had a bad tuck. The shirt was hanging.

Yeah, no memes had a fupa. Yeah.

Damn, it's bad tuck.

He was being the fattest guy in the pod. Doesn't get talked about.

You're right.

Yeah. They call me Big Bertha.

I thought memes was closer to Hank or PFT's build. He's closer to Max and larger than Big Cat.

Oh, oh.

So memes, what, uh, my God, what are we going to do?

Part of my meme is so hard.

We also told you your look was bad.

We did. There was no belt in that moment. There was no belt.

I was going to say meme was pure sex. Yeah.

The no No belt, shirt tuck in. It's a choice.

It makes it look like my stomach is hanging out.

I think we told you to just go— because you were half tucked. Yeah, that was your problem.

It's a large shirt.

But you just go fully untucked.

I mean, I am fat. I'm just wide. I aspire to have that locker one day. Yeah, go watch the video. It's gonna be awesome. Thank you.

It's a good— it's an entertaining video.

And if you are thinking to yourself right now, I'm not going to watch the video unless I get to see Hank golf twice as much as everyone else. Well, good news. He does. Lefty, lefty and righty.

Except when he's chipping and when he's putting.

No, I chipped and putted lefty in this video.

All left-handed.

Yeah.

In this video.

Yeah, he did. I remember he putted lefty. All right. Yeah. It was a very funny video, though. It was from Spain. Spring break. Okay, numbers. Good show, boys.

2, 11, 55.

Good luck, Max.

What?

What?

Good luck on Sunday.

Oh yeah, 56. 10s.

11's coming.

11.

Oh, 11's coming.

23. 23.

Oh boy, did you guess?

2.

2.

Boys, boys are late.

Rip it, they're not here.

Yeah, I did.

We got a— we have a percent— the guy who does the Pardon My Balls website is now tracking PFT's success rate on birthdays.

Oh, I love that.

That's so arbitrary.

PFT commenter has a 79.8% happy birthday success rate.

That is a great percentage. Are you kidding me?

Yeah, like, is it arbitrary or is it good?

That's great percentage.

I like it. 14. What was your guess? I said 11. All right, let's do one more. This one, this one.

You don't get to be like, ah, that's so close for 14.

11's coming. We got this, we got this. Does that mean— the part of my balls guy's great. Shout out. It's the Man, part my balls. Shout out David.

David.

I didn't like him. 31. 31.

No. Love you guys. Happy birthday to— well, if this episode comes out Thursday night, which it might, happy birthday to Bill Belichick.

What about Baker?

The greatest coach of all time.

We got his Friday birthday.

Most beautiful girlfriend. Happy birthday on Friday, April 17th, to recurring guest of Part of My Take, Washington Redskins legend Fred Smoot.

Oh, shout out Fred Smoot.

Love you guys.