Transcript of Kylie on Marrying Into Fandom, Pop Culture Crash Course & Postpartum Lies with Amanda Hirsch | Ep. 7

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Gosh, you guys get me. As always, make sure you follow us on social @NGL with Kylie. And And subscribe to the Not Going to Lie YouTube channel. Coming up on today's episode, the NFL Playoffs are an emotional time for fans. But today, I want to help out all the relatively sane partners of fans who simply married into the madness with some tips on how to be a good spouse. After that, I'm so excited to be joined by everyone's favorite pop culture queen and the woman behind the not skinny but not fat empire, Amanda Hirsch. Another person I have no business speaking to. But before we get to any of that, I'd like to start things off with, Can I be honest? With only a couple of months left to go, I'm in the final stretch here with baby number 4, so I figured I'd get honest about preparing for my fourth baby versus my first. This time around, I've done nearly Really nothing. We are about 10 weeks out from meeting this child, if all goes to plan. I have ordered a new baby seat. The baby seats that sit on the floor, those sling-style seats, I ordered a new one that has a wide base and is about the height of a high chair.

The reason I did that was because I have a slight concern that her three older sisters may run past and close-line her. In that situation, it is very much a springy effect. I don't want to know what the end of that looks like. I'm not going to lie. I know a lot of people do a lot to prepare for having a child, including educational avenues. So reading books, taking birth classes, I didn't do any of it. Not even for Wyatt. The books that people read, good on you. It's not me, and I didn't do it, and I don't plan on doing it now because that seems silly. We are no closer to choosing a baby name. We I have had absolutely no progress whatsoever. I have seen a number of people DMing me, telling me baby name suggestions. What I will say in response to that is When you suggest a baby name, think of the nicknames that would then go along with that name. Because I know a lot of great Gary's, but I I cannot name my daughter, Garrett, knowing that her nickname would be Gary. You see what I'm saying? Also, Merritt, we have received a lot.

I like Christmas, but I don't need to feel merry. Can I be really honest before we finish? Can I be honest? There's a good chance that this child doesn't even get two T's. I know. People are very invested in this, but I just feel like a curveball might be fun. Also, we've run out, I think. So just prepare yourselves. If we don't have two T's, it's okay, and she's still one of us. Now, that really does it for Can I be Honest? Moving on, there's something else going on in my life that's a close second to my growing family, and that is this Philadelphia Eagles situation. That's what I'm going to call it. Don't worry. I do have the I'm going to put it in the spoon again. But I'm going to try my best not to need it. There might be some situations where I need you to read between the lines. Shout out to the Spoons last week. I'm not saying it worked, but you saw it. That's making me want to not go. Shit. So early. Okay. You guys know I'm crazy, as evidenced by the Spoons, but I realized some of you actually are normal and just married into this.

Since I didn't livestream myself at the game on Sunday, thank goodness, I'm going to check out a few clips of Egles' fans to explain what I'm getting at here. Show them my people, Queen Emma.

Short my fucking asshole. Shut down. Where is he?

It's the pacing and yelling for me and the cursive Cursing at the TV as if the person can hear you. A lot of middle fingers are necessary. It just feels good to flip a hard bird. Everybody knows that. I like when there's tears, but you can't tell whether the crying is happy or sad tears. If you're dealing with a similar level of fandom in your home, I want you to know that I'm here for you, too. Here are my tips on how to be a good sports spouse. Tip one, accept the fact that the team will dominate your partner's thoughts for a while. This applies to pregame and postgame. Pregame, they're going to need to be getting mentally ready, mentally ready for anything that could possibly fold. And then post-game, they're going to be watching highlights at 6 AM at full volume. Because who doesn't want to relive that Saquon Barkley run for a touch down with snow on the ground? God, that was beautiful. You may ask your spouse to take the dog out and suddenly hear them screaming, Go birds, at the neighbors. That's a bonding experience. I know that you might think that that's embarrassing, but that's camaraderie between neighbors neighbors.

That's going to be the neighbor that sees a package out front and snags it for you to make sure it stays safe. That's that go birds bonding. Don't be embarrassed about that. It's a perk. This next tip hits very close to home. Number two, don't question our superstitions. We know we're being irrational, but whatever gets us that W, that's what we're doing. Superstitions may include, but are not limited to, knocking on various items made of wood, crossing your arms or legs in any specific way, moving seats, standing in a specific spot, making sure that your drink is aligned properly on the coffee table, maybe eating the exact same things every week or drinking the exact same things every week, a specific volume number, I know that this all sounds a little outside of the box, but you just need to be supportive. So instead of calling out our sickness, I suggest playing along or honestly, taking the day off. Treat yourself to something you'd rather be doing. Get out of the house. But if you're going to be in a shared space with the spouse, you need to be there and you need to be supportive.

Okay? And that includes includes superstitions. Number three, if the team loses, give your partner time to grieve, a. K. A. The cry it out method that Queen Emma very nicely pointed out. Very similar. I would say that we probably need to live by the 24-hour rule, which is something that a lot of athletes personally live by. But in the playoffs, very different. Very different. You're going to need days, days, to dwell on it, to maybe rewatch some of the clips, figure out where they went wrong, make sure that we are ready to assess the situation, address it in the offseason, and be back and ready for anything the next season. It's just very simple. We need time. Just make sure that you're prepared to give us that space. If you prepare for it and you don't need it, even better. You know what I mean? But seriously, let us grieve. Number four, do not tell us it's just a game. It's not. I think that anyone who has a serious sports spouse will know that a win or a loss can very much dictate, at the very least, how the next 24 to 48 hours goes in your house.

Because of that, it's not just a game. You know that this has the possibility of lifting up or tearing down our city as a whole. That's not a game. That's our lives. Come on. Like I said, be supportive. And tip number five, talk shit with us. If we're yelling at the TV, join in. This is not just a me thing. You are more than welcome, more than welcome, to yell not only positive things, but negative things as well, as long as you are directing them at the people who deserve them. Without fail, you can do that to the opposing team. Even if the opposing team has not done a single to piss off your spouse in the last, let's say, 3-5 minutes, you can still hit him with a, Fuck, how about them? It will still be well received because at that point, we are just hunkered down, anything and everything, against our opponent. Okay? So take note. Bonus, if you dare to take us to a watch party, give Give people fair warning. Do not take a crazy sports spouse out of the house into someone else's home and expect that the friends you're going to spend the day with have seen what they are about to see.

You should engage in a full warning. You should probably take gifts or high reward foods because they deserve a thank you for putting up with something that you agreed to when you said, I do. That does it for my tips on how to be a good sports spouse. If both people in your relationship are intense fans, all I can say is good fucking luck. And go birds. I'm getting a knock on one for that one. Probably one up here, too, just in case. This week, we're throwing it all the way back to 1998 with, Now That's What I Call Duncan. Are you ready now? For an entire list of Duncan's hottest drinks and treats all in one powerful ad read? Now, that's what I call Duncan Volume 1, features popular hits like, As Long as You Love Butter Pecan by the Duncan Street Boys, Baby, One More Donut by Brittany Sprinkles, and Mmm Bop on to your local Duncan location. Now, you can have all the Duncan hits you crave right here, right now. Plus, if you act now, you can score the $5 meal deal, two wake up wraps and a medium hot or ice coffee, all for just $5.

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Thank you. That was so nice. Thank you. Thank you for having me on the number one podcast in the world, Kylie.

Bare.

Stop. It is.

I started following you when the Emma Stone clip came out. Hey, nice to meet you. I love your pad.

My what? Podcast. You do? The pod. Goodbye. Everyone, I quit for the day. Over.

Your reaction was so chill and yet so perfectly hype. There was this underlying, just like, I've made it. And also, we can leave it. Just the quick wit of, We can go. I'm done here, was outstanding. The vibe passed.

I know. That was Emma Stone Listen, when I met her, I was working in that event. It was like a Vuv champagne event. Until that night, the big guest was supposed to be Margot Robbie, which is obviously a very exciting interview as well. Last minute, they got Emma Stone instead, and I was like, Oh, my God, I love her so much. Who could have ever thought in my life that that would be what she would say, that she said, I love your pod because we didn't... Everyone needs to know what you're talking about. And I genuinely thought she said pad, and I thought there was a period pad on my face because what could she be talking about? She She tried to be funny because she is so funny, and I didn't get it. It was such a moment. But I have to say she was so sweet and fun and got it right away and was in on it. Just even after, she was just exactly what you would want Emma Stone to be IRL. That is what happens with these, which I'm sure you know you're meeting a lot of celebs and A-listers and whatever.

It's usually the bigger they are, the fucking cooler and nicer. You know what I mean? It's not like you meet in their standoffish or something.

You hold out hope, I think, when you see these people climb to the top and are so successful, and you hold out hope that to some degree, they are as awesome as you have made them out to be in your brain. And when they deliver, when you meet them, you're like, Hell, yeah. Yeah. You get like... The fact that it reaffirms what you've already built up, you're like, This is great. This is great news. Thank you for not letting me down.

You're amazing. Then you take it a step too far and you're like, We're going to be best friends. Okay, maybe not that. Fine. Okay. Reel it in.

This feels great. I think we have something here.

We have something here. It's happening. We're going to be best friends.

Before we go any further, I have to ask about the name not Skinny, but not Fat. So dumb. How did you initially choose that name?

So dumb. So I should be proud of my friend. I can tell you love it now. Yes. Lo, here's the thing. When I started, do you remember 2015 was the year of meme accounts? Yes. So I'll name a few. Fat Jewish, Fuck Jerry, My Therapist Roses, beige cardigan, all these names. Oh my gosh, what are throwbacks? Jeez Louise. I know. Am I aging myself?

No, because these are all ringing a bell.

I actually started in 2015 or '16 as a meme account. When I started and had an idea like, Oh, all these funny things that people are writing, I love to write, and I wanted to do that, too, just for fun or even to just relate to other people. Because I think I was going through a depressed time, and I loved just reading those quick, funny memes, they were called at the time. So I was like, You know those late night Med-Time thoughts. I was going to bed and I was like, I will open a meme account, literally. And I will call it not a meme. But literally, just because my brain was wired in those names, everybody had a name that was catchy and I thought it was genius that my brain came up with this a night and started the next day.

Now, you have gotten the opportunity on your podcast to talk to so many different celebrities and reality TV stars. I always jokingly say that on the show, specifically, you would be included in this list now of I get to talk to people that I have no business talking to. Is there one guest that you've had that that caught you off guard more than others in terms of that you were shocked that you had the opportunity to speak to them?

Well, Ryan Reynolds, I'll tell you why. Because he and Kristen Stewart, oh, my God, Kristen Stewart Stuart. I was even more than Ryan Reynolds because she is so cool, right? You just see her and you're like, Okay, coolest human on Earth. Even with Ryan, I was like, Okay, he has some basic bitch millennial in him. He'll say it. He is a basic bitch millennial. I love that. So Kristen Stuart is not. To me, I was just like, She's too... Oh, when I was pregnant, Kylie, do you ever get this when you're pregnant, you feel less cool? A thousand %. Okay. So in my mind, Kristen Stuart came on when I was bumping. I was so pregnant. And I was like, if I wasn't pregnant, I'd be smoking a cigarette with her and be like, What drug are we doing?

Meanwhile, you're trying to say a whole sentence without heavy breathing.

Exactly. How uncool is that? And by the way, I couldn't shut up about it. So I kept telling her this while she was on my podcast. I'd be like, It's uncool to be pregnant. I know. So uncool to be growing a human. I know. And she was just like, Yeah, totally. I even told her I was like, You're just so cool. And really, I was like, Do you watch any reality TV? No. All the things, you could just tell she's too cool for all those things. However, I still managed to find the relatable Kristen Stewart, and that's the best part. When people listen to the episode and we saw a side of her that we didn't see, and she's usually like this in interviews, and she was more open, I was like, that to me is the biggest compliment I could ever get in my life. Obviously, that she was willing to come and she came, and then that people saw a different side of her and that she was like, I got that little basic bitch out of her, a tiny bit. There was so little, but I got some of it. But those are really cool moments, obviously.

Yeah, she was super cool.

That actually leads us into our next segment perfectly. This segment is titled Coach Me Up. I have said before that you are a pop culture expert, and I'm not going to lie, I am so bad at keeping up with any of that. I can't even put it into words. I do not watch really reality TV. I don't keep up with celebrity happenings. I'm just wondering- What's how I'm here for you, Kylie? Well, this is where it goes. This is where I need you to coach me up. I'm hoping that you can give me a little bit of a crash course here. I have a list of some pop culture questions. If you could answer for me, I feel like you might be able to put me on a better track. My first question here is, if I were to watch any of the Real Housewives, which city should it be?

I would say, which this is probably unpopular, I would say New York or New Jersey. And this is why I think for you, yes, because you're an East Coast girl. So for me personally, I like those franchises, even though everyone be like Beverly Hills, whatever. But I'm from New York. I want to see what they're doing in New York. You know what I mean? Sure. Or New Jersey because I'm familiar with it and it's still here and they come into the city. I feel like because you're an East Coast girl, you would care more about that, relate more to it, feel it more, get into it more. I would say New York and New Jersey. To go back, though, to the O. G. Days, not start at present day.

Great. What is Vanderpump rules?

Oh, my God. We have work to do.

We have a rundown. Okay. Here that Queen Emma puts together, and then we go through it ahead of the show, and we decide how to pick and choose. When she wrote this, she said, I'm assuming you don't know what I've got Pumperuels is, and I said, You assumed right. I know that there is a pretty matriarch dark-haired woman who is the head. That's all I know. That's all I got. I couldn't tell you who else is involved in the show.

I couldn't tell you that woman's name.

Can I ask you a question? Sure.

You and Jason play head-to-head. Who's better at pop culture stuff? Like, would he know Vanderpump rules? I don't think so. Would he know more than you?

I don't think so.

Okay. So you're saying you might be the better one of you two.

Which is a shame. It's so sad. It's so embarrassing.

Well, Vanderpump rules. It's in the title. That woman with the hair is Lisa Vanderpump. Perfect. This actually connects with our first question. She was on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, and her business was managing a restaurant called Sur, and the producers who would follow her would be like, wait, you have drama on the Housewives, but we see that your staff is hot, sexy. They're all having sex or all whatever. Maybe we should do a show about them. And so she started producing that show, which then became Vanderpump Rules because she was the boss of this restaurant. All the staff were fucking each other, doing wild shit.

So it's based in a restaurant?

Right. But they are like 45 now, so they haven't been working at the restaurant. There have been 10 seasons or something. But I'm so glad that now you know. I'm going to take this honor with me that now you know at least what it is.

I will take that knowledge with me. This is so bad. If I were to start watching any reality dating show, which would you recommend. I will say I have heard a lot about Love Island. I have not seen a single episode.

I wasn't thinking Love Island for you. I was thinking for you, Love is Blind. I feel like your love is blind.

Okay. Is Love Is blind when they are speaking through a wall, I'm assuming.

And it's Netflix, so everyone talks about it.

And they meet up at the end in a weird little hallway?

Yeah.

I've seen the hallway in TikTok clips.

So I think that's where I would start for you. I think Love Island is too much for you. It's throwing you in. It's like 65 episodes. I'm not lying. It's literally 65 because Love Island is shot like Big Brother, where it's like the cameras are just there all day, so it goes up every day. It's one a day for the whole three weeks that they're there in this villa. Every day, it's literally a show a day. They're literally 60 episodes. That's not for you. That's not for a beginner. No. No. Love is Blind is 10.

Great. That's such a good thing to note because I would not- It's insane.

It's a commitment of no other. People need to be with their laptops all day. It's really not for moms. It's really hard for me when I decide to dive in, I'm fast forwarding episode I'm like, I need to be calculated. It's crazy. Yeah.

That feels like way too much. Yeah. Okay. All right. I will try Love is Blind. Okay. If I get there.

Yeah.

We'll see. I keep seeing Timothée Chalamet all over your stories.

She's talking like a reporter on channel 5. I keep seeing this man.

Yes, I've seen. What?

Oh, you're not attracted. I already know. You're not attracted.

Is that what it is?

Okay, so you're not- First of all, let me tell you. Just tell me, Amanda, you were right. I'm not attracted.

Correct.

Okay. You're not attracted. Have you seen the man I'm married to? No, right. I think that what's happening for you is you're seeing the hype and you're like, Okay, I'd love to watch a film, but I don't get the hype. I get it.

Because I've never been negative. There's never been like, I don't... That's awful. I don't get it. It's just that I don't quite understand the hype, and I felt like I was missing out on something. So that makes a lot more sense. That does it for Coach Me Up. So I've learned a couple of things.

Okay, you did.

I did. I feel better about the Timothée Chalamet situation because I felt like I was really missing something. Also, I now know that if I need to lean into a dating show, Love is Blind is I answer.

Now you also know that Lisa Vanderpump created Vanderpump Rules.

I still can't get over that it started in a restaurant.

Babe, when I tell you that was peak reality TV, when I tell you it was like, waiters dating each other, boning each other, the best friend boning his best friend's best friend. It was like, reality TV like that doesn't exist anymore.

I will say, I do think the closest I ever got to committing to a reality TV show, which makes makes sense for your recommendation for the Real Housewives, was Jersey Shore.

Oh, yeah.

So you watched- Outstanding show. Yeah.

I mean, that was really our times. It was like everybody was watching Jersey Shore on MTV. We were all watching it. It wasn't like, Are you watching? We all watched it.

The funny part was that calling it Jersey Shore is especially hilarious to me because I grew up going to the South Jersey Shore. Very different experience.

What? How is it different?

No clubs? No clubs? We're not GTL. There's very few clubs. It's good, clean family fun for the most part, with the good dive bars. But we're not fist bumping. No. Yeah.

I was into Poly D, by the way. I don't know why. I was like, I couldn't... They had some- You liked the blow dry? I don't know what I liked. It's like a weird thing. I was like, I get it.

I got it, Pauley. His humor was incredible.

Maybe he was funny. Bbc. Funny speaks to me.

I just saw a clip recently of when he walked in and the girls, I don't know which of the women were mad at him, and he was like, I'm mad at you because you were mad at me, and now I'm mad at you. So now we're all mad, and walks out I'm like, This is incredible. How do we not... Like the fucking duck phone. I'm like, I can't. The duck phone.

I know. The whole like... Take us back.

It was good. It was good.

Yeah, it felt like a warm hug. So you have it in you to love reality TV.

Yes, I do.

I will say I did not watch any of the extended... Me neither.

But the OG Jersey Shore, I love them.

I know.

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Beth takes a big go with butterbecan. The wedding is tomorrow. Where are we going to have it now? To be continued. I read a quote of yours about motherhood that I absolutely love. You said, You can still be a dumb bitch and have a baby.

Yeah, you could be a mom and still be a dumb bitch is the That dense. Yeah. And I say it every day.

Did you say this after your first baby?

Yeah.

I love that so much.

Yeah. Because it's not... Again, the three people that don't get it will be like. It's more like... Because before, when I got pregnant with Noah, my first, I had just started taking off and doing what I do. And I was very much like, Oh, You know how you're scared? A baby is going to halt your career and your passions and your everything. And I said to myself, You're going to keep doing what you're doing. You're just going to be a mom, but you're going to keep doing the dumb shit. That's how I talk to myself, that you You're going to watch reality TV. You're going to take selfies. I even told myself, which is so weird that I actually ended up doing that. I'd be like, You'll breastfeed that baby. And as you're breastfeeding, you're going to fucking talk about what's happening today. I kept on doing my shit, meaning you don't have to be a mom. And the minute you become a mom, only care about mom things, do mom things, baby stuff, not know how to have fun anymore, not care about dumb shit, not have your hobbies, your your ends. You can do all that and be a mom.

It is the most selfless thing you will have to do in your life. It is, to some degree, all-encompassing. At any point in the day, you do have to always be concerned about the tiny humans you're responsible for. But I think there is a misconception that it wipes out the rest of you and makes you solely mom, whereas Whereas what we need to do is tack it onto the end of the resume and keep the rest of the shit that also defines us as who we are as people because we're still us. Just because we made a human being or we are a mother to a tiny human, It doesn't mean that we are only mom.

You said it even better than I could. And moreover, I think that they give you so much motivation and even more purpose in life. Nothing makes me happier than being able to do what I'm doing and come home to my baby, now babies, or be home with my babies, and then have to run out and come back. It gives me this complete life. You know what I mean? That I love. But I want people to know that if you're scared to have a baby, obviously, there are a million things that go into it, and you can always do your little plus and minus or timeline or when is right. I did that, too. But I think that the fear that you you won't be able to succeed anymore, or you won't be able to start something new, or you won't be able to have any a life, or it's just not what I experience and also what I think that anybody could do and balance it so that you don't have to. And by the way, there are people that want to just lean into that, and they end up learning parenting courses or wanting to teach kids stuff.

Great. You don't have to, is what I'm saying. You don't have to get the mom haircut, even though I did get a bob. You don't have to. I'm growing up the hair.

I love it. One of my favorite videos of yours, speaking of breastfeeding, is when you mentioned that you are the living exception to the idea that women who lose pregnancy weight faster when they breastfeed.

Mm-hmm. It'll come right off. Did you do a not going to lie about this? It'll come right off. It'll shed right off. I will tell you what, the only weight I lost while breastfeeding was the hair off of my head. Oh, wow. That's it.

Baby hair's breakage. That's what I lost.

Yeah. Again, it makes sense that you would be burning these calories or whatever scientifically is supposed to happen. And for the people that it happens for, fuck you. But yeah, it was not my experience.

My biggest piece of mom advice to any mom is do not get your heart set on anything. From pregnancy all the way through into motherhood. Don't think that you are going to have no nausea. Don't think that you are going to be unscathed by the sciatic nerve pain. Don't think that you are going to only gain 20 pounds. Don't think that you are going to breastfeed. Don't think that you are going to have a natural birth. So don't get your heart set on anything because baby is going to do what the fuck baby wants to do.

I love that. It's so true.

Why stress out about something that at the end of the day is going to be okay, but might not have been your first choice?

It's so true. I said a very similar thing about birth plans because I from the beginning said, No, what's a birth plan? How could you plan when you don't know what the fuck is going to happen? My explanation for that was like, imagine you plan this whole thing and then, God forbid, you end up needing a C-section. That disappointment...

That's not how you want to start motherhood. Something else I think we have in common. I saw the other day that you posted an Instagram story about your oldest saying, fucker, and you're trying to get him to say Tucker. Now, I'm hoping that I know the answer here. Is it safe to assume that you curse in front of the kids?

Yeah, but I don't think I say fucker.

They always pick the ones you don't use.

This is me lying to myself, probably, but I really don't think it's from me because the fucker, I don't say. But I really need to look up. I was going to tell myself to look it up. I think what I'm assuming the right thing to do is not do what I did, which was laugh and be like, no or yes. But you know what I said to another mom the other day? I was like, him cursing is the least of my problems. You know what I mean? Absolutely. Me and my husband even agree on it. We're That, yeah, to other people, they're like, That's crazy. But I'm like, him saying that word that he doesn't know what it means really is not at the top of my like, We need to take care of this with Noah. You know what I But I think what we're going to do because it is happening, I am sure, Kylie, I'm positive he's not doing it at school. So I'm not worried because he's way more scared of his teacher, which is like, I need to think about what I'm doing wrong here. But Yeah, he wouldn't do it at school because I've said to him, Should I tell your teacher you're saying that?

And he's like, No, no, no, no, no. So he wouldn't do it at school. He's just doing it with us to get a rise. Yes. It's safe space.

I have caught a lot of I am very open about the fact that I curse in front of my kids. I firmly believe that I don't quite understand why we have to give those words so much weight in pretending that they are offensive to kids, and my kids know that they're grown up words, and they don't use them personally, and all of the stuff. There are words that throughout their life they will hear, and they won't be shocked by them because they grew up with them. But why do you think that people people get so personally offended by people suggesting that they curse in front of their kids?

Well, I feel like because I've told you that I've been doing what I have been doing on top of my kids since they were born. You know what I mean? I was literally breastfeeding with Noah being like, so then he went blah, blah, blah, and then he fucking went there. And people would respond, but I actually felt like it was more like, not it's so cool, but it was refreshing to people that I just kept on speaking normally. You know what I mean, next to my kid. And I think the words, like, again, to me, fucker isn't crazy. It's the F word. But to me, if he was putting someone else down, I would be way more upset. You know what I mean? I feel like it's not If he heard at home that we were speaking not nicely to each other and calling each other names, you know what I mean? But the cursing that we do is more like a fucking this, a fucking that, which isn't great. And I'm not saying speak like that all day, but I would take it way more seriously if he was coming to kids and calling them stupid or dumb or just any insulting word.

You know what I mean? Then the cursing that is meaningless.

In our house, our girls will stop you if you say the word stupid, if you say hate, if you say shut up is a big one. I grew up in a house where you don't say that. My sister and I could call each other lots of names. The minute one of us said, Shut up, my mom would be like, That's enough. I stand by that. I think it is when you say it in a serious tone, not in the Princess Diary's like, Shut up. Not the joking way. Very much in the aggressive, it hurts my ears because the house that I was raised in. Shut up is big one. No one in our house says it. And recently, loser has been added to the list. You are not allowed to say loser because I don't know where that came from, but it was not happening in our house.

Blame the kid. Blame the other kid.

For some reason, that one hits my ears poorly, too. But those are all words where our kids know. They will say it and then go, Oh.

But how? How did you do that? What did you do? Did you say- We just have talked about that they're unkind words.

So hate, I always say, you can say you don't like something, but hate is really that means a lot more than not liking something. Shut up, I always just say, it's not nice to tell someone that. If someone has something to say, we should let them say it. And stupid, there's so many other words, be more creative. Well, I can't thank you enough for joining me today. I am so grateful. I love that you are not only leaning into what you love and what you loved pre-kids, but that you've continued with your content and that you're continuing to crush it. I thank you so much for joining us today.

Thank you for having me, truly.

Thank you so much again to my guest, Amanda Hirsch, for joining me. As always, you'll be able to find even more exclusive clips on More Shit Monday on my YouTube channel. And that's a wrap on another episode of Not Going to Lie. I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcast, follow the show on all social media @NGL with Kylie. Not going to Lie is a wave original brought to you by Duncan. Thank you guys again for tuning in. Hey there, Ryan Reynolds here. It's a new year, and you know what that means. No, not the diet. Resolutions. A way for us all to try and do a little bit better than we did last year. My resolution, unlike Big Wireless, is to not be a raging expert and raise the price of wireless on you every chance I get. Give it a try at mintmobile. Com/switch. $45 upfront payment required, equivalent to $15 per month. New customers on first three-month plan only. Taxes and fees extra. Speed slow or above 40 gigabytes on unlimited. See mintmobile. Com for details.