Transcript of Kylie & Jason on Love Languages, Dating Red Flags & Valentine’s Day at the Eagles Parade | Ep. 10

Get the Angel Rees special at McDonald's now. Let's break it down. My favorite barbecue sauce, American cheese, crispy bacon, pickles, onions, and a Sesame Sea bun, of course. And don't forget the fries and a drink. Sound good? I'm participating in restaurants for a limited time. Not going to lie, Valentine's Day, I could do without. But the 15th of February, give me all the sale chocolate. Let's get started on this podcast. Welcome back to Not Going to lie, A Wave Original brought to you by Chirios. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey, a beignet enthusiast. Shout out to New Orleans. Retired NFL wife, current wife to the person sitting next to me on this couch.

Am I on camera now?

You're always on camera.

You have an ISO on you. Yeah, but on the edit team, am I now? Because they'll probably just do your ISO.

Whatever they feel. We're off to a good start. That's right. In honor of Valentine's Day, there's only one guest we could have who could match my outward dislike for this occasion. We happen to live together, so I dragged him here to the studio.

Hey.

You may know him from the other podcast, his 13-year NFL career, maybe from when he said Tits on ESPN for his first show or when he showed his own on national television last year in the playoffs, but You definitely know him for being Wyatt, Ellie, and Benny's dad, and my husband of seven years, Jason. Welcome to Not Going to Lie. Thanks, Kylie. Our first male guest. Thanks for having me. Big deal. How does it feel?

The first male guest. Yes. It feels pretty good, not a lie.

Nice. I see what you did there. I didn't even try and do that. I see what you did there. What was your initial reaction to being asked to join the podcast? It's about time. Is that right? Yeah. Oh, okay.

I was waiting for it.

This is your moment?

This is my moment. He's going to dare me to bid.

I'm on record in my most recent episode of stating that we're not really Valentine's Day people.

Speak for yourself. Look at my shirt. What maniac doesn't like a holiday that you get to celebrate your loved ones with?

I believe somewhere, and in post, we can pull this, somewhere on my Instagram, there is a post about when I said, I believe I asked, Are we doing something for Valentine's Day? This is back when we were, I believe, just dating. Okay. And your reply was, Yeah, when is that?

Yeah, well, I mean, sometimes it sneaks up on you.

I believe I said February 14th, and you said every year? Yeah. But you love Valentine's Day.

Now I do because I love you.

Oh. Yeah. You're so full of shit. I'm not full of shit. Oh, God. Why would I celebrate it before? Okay. Between the two of us, who's the least romantic?

Who's the least romantic? Yeah. I think if we're going on average me, but if we're going like height of top romantic gestures, I think then I'm the winner.

You cannot count proposing.

I mean, that's very romantic gesture.

I know, but you can't count it.

Why not?

Because was I supposed to propose? No. This seems rigged.

I don't even think my I suppose it was that romantic.

I thought it was very romantic. I don't remember exactly what you said. I have stated that publicly, that I blacked out when you told me to get out of the car.

I didn't know what... I don't think that's the height of my romantic gestures.

What do you think was your most romantic gesture?

My most romantic. Your most romantic.

I can't wait for you to say something that's actually really sweet and for me to be like, Oh, shit, you're right. You did do that.

I mean, it wasn't romantic. I thought the Christmas gift this year was very good.

Outstanding. I thought- I have not talked about that. Can you tell the people, our listeners, what you got me?

Christmas gift this year? Yeah, I got you a pendant. Locket. Locket that had a picture of our dog, Winnie, who passed away this year. It was a gold little locket that had a little green emerald thingy.

The picture inside was actually a picture of Winnie and I on our wedding day.

On our wedding day, yes.

On the back, it says win, and on the front, it has a K. I was not anticipating.

He had talked himself up a little bit. I didn't want to get the K on the front.

I thought it looks nice.

I wanted it to be just went on the back. At first, we did the K, and then I tried to be like, actually, don't put the K on there. Then they I engraved it.

Too late now. I can't buff it out. I loved it. That was a very romantic gesture.

Shout out to Raffy.

Yeah, always. But that was a very romantic gesture. I'll give you that one. That one was We're going to actually stick to the rundown today because Emma was nice enough to write it, so we're actually going to try our best. Oh, who's Emma? Queen Emma, the Queen of all Queens. She took care of business. Coming up on today's Anti-Valentine's Day episode, we're going to start off by getting honest about Valentine's Day as a couple and what traditions we have with the girls. We're also going to answer some couples questions from the NGL-ers.

Do not lump me into your anti-Valentine'sness. Okay. I don't feel comfortable.

Where are we going to dinner?

I'm Yes, it was made up by a huge conglomerate to make money on and profit off of, but it's a great holiday. I'm all on board with celebrating loved ones.

Sure. Before we get into all that, we are just coming off of a trip to New Orleans that some news outlets are calling our Baby Moon. Baby Moon. Would you say that that's accurate?

I think if you want to call it a Baby Moon, I feel it has to be specifically for said purpose. I would say no, it is not a Baby Moon.

What What was your favorite part of the New Orleans trip?

My favorite part?

Yes.

Stapleton concert was great. That was so good. That was a lot of fun. The casino was not fun. Why, Jason? They took all my money. They're a bunch of assholes. I really enjoyed the Palm reading. I really enjoyed going to the US naval Air Base, Reserve Air Base. That was fun. Those guys were awesome. The food was great. We had a date night at Clancy's. We did. Shout out to Clancy's for getting us in there. Great restaurant. Had turtle soup. It was fantastic.

It honestly was very good.

I think it was turtles in there, right?

It was called turtle soup.

Yeah, but sometimes things are called that.

I feel like not in New Orleans. I feel like New Orleans would not.

Like turtle soup, if I had it someplace else, I don't think it would have been actual turtles in there. I agree with you. It's just been in the model of turtle soup. Pretty sure those were Cajun turtles.

Clancy's was also... We were in an Uber, and I had a moment when we Uber's phone said two minutes to arrival, and we were turning into residential street.

That's how you know it's going to be a good spot.

Well, that's why I don't think Clancy's would lie to you.

The restaurant has been there for a long time.

Very long time. But it's literally a house on a corner in a residential street.

It's very cute. It's an old home, which I always like restaurants that are set up like that.

Yes, you're guaranteed a good meal. That was good.

Yeah, we didn't get the I wanted to get the oysters because they're known for the oysters, as is all of New Orleans. But unfortunately, they were having a big neurovirus.

Outbreak in oysters. And it was not enough people were talking about it, I feel like. It was still on the menu at all these places.

People were still eating oysters. I'm like, How are you guys? Have you guys not heard about this?

Our stew was shut down. The one oyster house was closed and someone said they went there and that there was a sign on the door that said they had run out of oysters. I was like, You didn't run out. You just can't serve them because Because they're making people sick.

They had to throw them away. Crazy. It wasn't enough bathrooms available to serve them. Jason Daniel. I thought Café du Monde was very, very... Not just the beignet. That was a cool experience. It's not just the beignet there. It's like the whole... You're sitting underneath outside this...

Green and white striped on it. It's like you feel like you're getting the full experience. For sure. If you don't wear black there, dark colors, don't think that you're going to get out of there unscathed. Because the minute you bring that beignet to your mouth, first of all, don't inhale. I said that before we started because I feel like that's a key-Cough a little bit, get some powder sugar in your lungs. But the whole experience, when you walk up and there, just pick a table, you sit down, someone comes to find you, and then a couple of minutes later, you end up with the most delicious... It's good. It's like breakfast funnel cake.

It's just a fried funnel cake.

Banging. I'm out. I'm in on the whole thing. Yeah, it's great. Last thing on New Orleans, it's very possible that a lot of you saw a photo of me circulating from the game of me housing a bag of Cheetos. From @ellieelisabeth, to be clear, there is not an H on the end, so I am not screwing that up. Now, this is a goddamn mood. It's just me with a bag of It goes to my face. Couple of things to take away from this picture. I do love Cheetos. They're delicious, crunchy, snack, salty. There's no notes. I have no notes about Cheetos. I don't know who doesn't like Cheetos.

I think Travis even likes Cheetos.

Does he? I was saying something, he's picky. I do want to point out, if you catch me eating any type of bagged item in public, Cheetos, chips, any of it, I will be dumping it into my mouth from the bag. Couple of reasons. First of all, cut out the middleman. Second, I didn't have an opportunity to wash my hands. My germaphobia said, Dump it right in.

You were dumping the Cheetos in even when it was a full bag of Cheetos?

A thousand %.

Who the hell does that? No, you dumped the end of it in once you can't fit your hand in there anymore. No. Or it's all the crummies.

No, I know what you're saying, but no. Sometimes I will crunch up. If I I have Doritos, or usually just Doritos.

You purposely crunchify them?

I will crunch up Doritos so that they slide out of the bag into my mouth in a nicer fashion.

But the Dorito whole chip is the best part of opening up the bag. You open up the bag and you find one that didn't get crushed and you get this perfect triangle into your mouth. You detriangle them? Yeah, absolutely. That's a party. You have some very weird eating habits between that and cereal. I think you just are very misguided in a lot of your junk food eating habits.

Yeah, but you married me some.

I did, yes.

Sucker. I stand by it. I think that it's an efficient way. Like I said, you cut out the middleman. Don't look over here. It's not efficient.

I couldn't rush my way.

It's completely the wrong way to eat Cheetos. I couldn't rush my way to the bathroom to wash my hands. Even if I had, when I came back into the suite, who knows if I need to grab the door, then I got to figure out what hand I touched. I'm out on highly-touched surfaces.

But this is where if you just embrace touching everything and always putting your hands in your mouth, then you've already had the germs. Then you don't have to worry about getting the germs. That's how I approach it. I don't ever have to worry about eating with my hands because I've already been exposed to all.

The problem is that when an illness enters our home, you know this because we just did this for three weeks, four weeks. Yes, been pretty much all week. The month of January, basically. You still get to sleep and recover.

Well, I try. If you needed me to get up, I would get up, but the kids don't want to see me. They want to see mom. I try. I go into Benny's room and she says, I want mama.

That's what she did to you last night.

She does it every time I go.

She played you so hard last night.

No, last I thought I got her to bed.

You brought her in to me. Was that not last night?

No, it was two nights ago. Last night, I got her. Two nights ago, she did want you. Most of the time, whenever I go in there, they don't want me.

To be fair, she is playing the shit out of you recently.

If they're already crying, dad is not helping. No.

I have to catch him before. No.

Honestly, you make it I have to catch them before the crying has started.

That's accurate. I'd say that's true. I'm going to keep washing my hands obsessively. It's got to commit. And dumping bags of chips and Cheetos into my mouth.

Whatever. You got to embrace the dirtbagness that life is.

I don't have a problem with dirt. You know I don't have a problem with dirt. I go outside and dig up worms with the kids. I don't have a problem with dirt. I have a problem with germs. There's germaphobia.

There's germs in dirt.

Yeah, but like...

You're just used to those germs. I'm saying if you get used to the other germs, then you won't have to worry about those germs either. Tell them. I mean, this is like virology 101.

Because you studied that?

I've read enough Reddit pages on it.

Dr. Reddit over here. All right, moving on. It's time to get honest about one of our least favorite holidays, one of my least favorite holidays. Is that better?

Yes. Okay.

Don't let me. This is, Can I be Honest? Valentine's Day edition. Nice. Is it safe to say we do not have Valentine's plans this year?

I don't think we have them yet. Well, we have the parade.

Which might be the most romantic way to spend Valentine's Day.

Top way you can spend a Valentine's Day in Philadelphia is.

I'm more concerned about... There has to a population, specifically a population of women who are very disappointed in the fact that their significant others are going to be spending Valentine's Day day drinking on Broad Street, and then they're not going to make it to dinner.

If those broads aren't happy about being on Broad Street, there's nothing you can do to make them happy.

I just think that if you married- I thought it was a funny pun.

Broad, broad? Yeah. I just don't know if Philadelphia restaurants are ready for the dinner reservations of drunk people that are about to ensue on Friday evening. There's going to be so many nice restaurants that have never seen belligerently drunk people, and it's going to be nonstop all day.

You're not wrong. I will say it. I think it helps that Valentine's Day is on a Friday this year because then you can make it the way that people have turned Halloween into Hallowe weekend. You can extend it, maybe get a reservation on Saturday instead.

Correct.

But I I truly think that if you have married an Eagles fan that is passionate enough to go to the parade on Friday, then I feel like you already know what you signed up for.

I feel like you want to be there.

With them. With everyone. You'd hope that's the case.

This is a giant... Valentine's Day is just a giant day for Philadelphia to show its love affair with itself and the Philadelphia Eagles now.

That's a great point. Did you hear that, ladies?

It's the biggest couples' Valentine's Day of all time. It's an entire city. It's beautiful. I think it's fantastic. The city of Brotherly Love. That's why I love Valentine's Day.

Right. Are you going to go to the Eagles parade?

Yes. That's nice. I don't know what I'm doing or where I'm going to be. I'll probably be with a bunch of former teammates that are going or retired players. But yeah, I'm going to be drinking my face off.

Are you going to be on the old guy bus? Is there going to be an old guy bus?

I don't want to be on a bus. I feel like being on a bus feels wrong. I don't want to be on a bus, but I do want to go to the parade.

Okay. Have you ever dared to go out to dinner on Valentine's Day in all of our years together? I do think we've gone out a couple of times.

Yeah, we've gone out most of the time, I think.

I feel like since we have kids, since we We've had kids, we've- Throws a wrench in. I just feel like we... The other thing about going out, specifically on Valentine's Day, is that restaurants are usually busy with reservation. If we wait a day or two on either side, if we choose a day, one to two days before or one to two days after, we don't run into the same issue of being in an extremely crowded restaurant.

Yeah. I mean, that's factually correct.

Yeah. We should do that this year.

No, we should get drunk as shit at the Eels. Well, you shouldn't, but I should. Then we should go to Valentine's Day.

You can go to Valentine's dinner with Celik. You guys can go get drunk together. Sorry, Celeste. Have you ever gifted each other anything for Valentine's Day?

Have we ever gifted anything? Cards, chocolates, flowers. I usually do flowers. I usually give you the Frère Rocher's. Frère Rocher's, you do.

I do love those. Because I really only got them for special occasions.

Are we doing a candy edition of Valentine's Day on this? No. Can we talk about how awful these things are? How the fuck are these things? Why is there not a better candy that has figured out you just put some sentimental words on a piece of candy that has kicked these things out of the current?

To be fair, there are other versions of it. I think Sweet Tarts has hearts.

That sounds so much better.

They are outstanding.

Maybe that's why these were because nobody really eats them, so you just leave them there.

They're just to look at. I mean, they're not going to spoil. They're chalk.

By the way, that's a piece of trash. Just want to make that clear.

I can't wait for the...

Can you write... Is there a chalkboard here?

Six hours later.

Do we have a chalkboard? Can I write with these? I wonder if you're going to write.

He wants to see if the candy hearts are actually chalk, can be used as chalk.

That wall's black right there.

Don't, don't, don't. Oh, God. He's going off camera. Don't write on the wall. Oh, my God. Jason, stop. Oh, Jason. Oh, my God. Jason, stop writing on the wall. It'll erase. No, it won't. Oh, my God. People fucking eat this. You have to sit down so you're in frame. Not there. I can't sit down. Sit down so you're in frame. All right, Jeff. I can't. You just wrote on the wall.

You can write with any food, I suppose.

You better get that off before we leave. Romantic. You're terrible. Okay.

All right. What are we on now?

Oh, God. The last question for, Can I be Honest? Is what traditions have we started with the girls?

Kyle Kylie, she had a tradition with her father, Big Ed, where Big Ed would go and buy a chocolate and card.

Yeah, he was like, he would be our Valentine. Yes.

So far, Kylie has been doing that and then giving them to me to give to the girls. But now I think it's time for me to really take this initiative and actually get gifts for the girls.

The good news is I already have the kick hat hearts at the house. That does it for, Can I be Honest? The Valentine's Day edition. Long time no see. It's me again, and I'm here to talk to you about another one of my favorite cereals, an absolute classic. I'm talking about cheerios. How perfect for our Valentine's Day episode They've got special heart-shaped cheerios available now during American Heart Month. They're perfect for Valentine's Day, Valentine's Day, or maybe even surprising your kids with a special Valentine's breakfast. My favorite type of cheerio is definitely the classic Honeynut cheerio. It just goes perfectly with ice cold milk and slices of bananas. I stand by that. I also always have to share my cheerios. So when I pour myself a bowl of cheerios, I just make sure to pour three more because chances are the minute they see the spoon going to my mouth, they will demand their own bowls. Yes, it's It's called preventative pouring. Get yourself a box of their heart-shaped cheerios all throughout the month of February. You guys sent in hundreds of couples questions for us, but as I said in the first episode of this podcast, I'm busy, I'm a mom, and I don't have time for that many questions.

Instead, we're going to answer seven-ish questions today in honor of our seven-ish years of marriage. We're almost there. I know he was just about to try and pull our anniversary out of his ass. I made it very easy for him. I know.

It's two months from Valentine's Day. Exactly.

That's actually a great way to remember it.

But you got to remember and...

No, you're not.

You're right. I'm pretty bad.

Okay. Number one from @rwclines. We'll go with that. Tatie, what's the best piece of marriage advice you've ever received?

Best piece of marriage advice? Happy wife, happy life.

That's a terrible answer.

They didn't offer any advice. It was just more of a saying.

Is that really the best advice you've ever gotten?

I don't really consider it. I don't take marriage advice.

He doesn't listen to Ed.

No. Most people are full of shit. I feel like most advice when it comes to kids or marriages and stuff like that works for certain people's marriages and kids, but everybody's different. I try to take a lot of it with a grain of salt.

I like the advice when people say you should always be dating your spouse. I like that because I feel like it keeps it alive.

Yeah, It just reminds you to spend time and take the time to do things with that person. That can get lost very easily with kids and work and a lot of things.

Number two, from @Spenelle13, what's something that you and Jason do to keep your relationship important so that you don't fall into the whole just mom and dad routine with heart hands?

I think what you just said about the dating is good. I mean, we do fall into that trap. I think that's something that everybody falls into from time to time.

We have had more than one conversation about how we're in that phase of life where we have three littles, one on the way, Obviously, our main focus right now is very much our kids. We still get those moments to enjoy each other, just the two of us. I think it makes those moments even more special. The fact that we were able to go to dinner in New Orleans, just the two of us, made it that much better that we could go and experience a staple of New Orleans, just the two of us, because every other dinner is me being told it's disgusting and you trying to be sweet and get them to eat their food.

For sure. I think that's very accurate. I think just talking and sharing- I also make him hold my hand. That's good. It's all good.

I don't think he hates it, but I do want my handheld while we're walking places. I do sometimes demand that.

I think every marriage, once you have kids, is going to fall into the mom and dad thing from time to I think that the key to not having that be a thing is just talking to your spouse and saying, Hey, I really miss going out to dinner, or whatever you miss about the moment you had with your spouse that now get overshadowed because you're busy or being a mom and dad and working and doing all these things, voicing that. Then if the other person is listening, hopefully they go out of their way to try and do whatever that the other person feels like they're missing on. I think talking to each other is a big component of any of this stuff.

I also think there is some beauty in embracing the phase of life that we're in. We make it a point to Whenever Jason's busy at the end of football season, he wasn't in the house that frequently for a couple of weeks. We made it a point to speak kindly. I always try to we'll look at videos with dad or we make sure that we tune in when he was on broadcast. Even those little things where as a spouse, you can appreciate that person for the role they play as a dad in that moment, I think is really important. It's a way to still have that love and affection even if it's not able to be expressed in a romantic husband and wife way. I think there's plenty of ways. We are mom and dad right now. I got no problem being mom and dad. In the thick of mom and dad.

Thick mom and dad.

In the thick of mom and dad.

Why are you even sitting like that? My belly isn't... You're like approaching Jason, Kelsey belly-ness.

We both know I'm far more flexible than you.

All right.

Number three. Next question from eggsovereevy. That's a great name.

It's pretty good. It's a good pun.

What are your and Jason's love languages? This is good.

Do we want to do each other's or do we want to do our own?

Should we do each other's? Sure. I feel like I just spoon fed you with the handholding.

Yeah, yours is physical touch and words of affirmation. No? That's what it used to be. Maybe it changed.

Was it words of affirmation?

Tell me.

I thought it was acts of service.

Well, now it is probably because you want me to do acts of service.

No, I just wanted to take on the trash.

Seriously, the thing about love languages. Pretty much whatever language you're not being fed, it turns out to be the love language people want.

One of the biggest running jokes in our house is the trash.

It's not a joke.

I mean, I like to think it's a serious problem. I like to think it's a joke.

I was reading Sheil Shiel Silverstein?

Yes, Shiel Silverstein.

There was a trash one in there. Sophia Sylvia Saint or something like that.

You literally read it this morning to the girls.

I read it last night and I was like, This fucking book is speaking to me more than it's speaking to the girls right now.

Yeah, but then when he read it this morning, what did I say. I feel like it's a short story about me.

We both know my one role in the house that is supposed to be done is the trash, and it's not fulfilled currently.

His firm. It's not fulfilled currently.

We like to share a lot of duty. But that one... We actually don't share a lot of duties. I have one job, and it's the trash, and I'm shit at it.

You're not shit at it. You're busy.

But no, I'm pretty sure when we first read that book, I'm almost positive. Yours were words of affirmation and physical touch.

That's fair.

It's probably more- As long as you didn't say gift giving, you could probably nail it.

Yeah.

I think that as our relationship has moved forward in It's like, Oh, actually, I want my husband to do fucking something around the house. Then the third one's crept in there.

It's only the trash. It's really it. The options here are words of affirmation, quality time, physical touch, acts of service, or receiving gifts. I would say that yours are probably definitely quality time. I feel like you've fallen into physical touch only because I've always stood up on you.

Every man's got physical touch in their top two, actually.

Yeah, I would say quality time and physical touch. But I do think you really appreciate words of affirmation, even if you were listed. I appreciate all of them.

For reference, I like all of the love languages.

Well, that's why their love language is their ways to show love. But I would say probably quality time and physical touch.

I think those are my top two.

Okay. I feel like we nailed that. Go us.

Physical touch.

Number four from @Swimpike, what's the best gift you've ever received?

The best gift I've ever received? Oh, man.

I feel bad.

Why?

Because I feel like I have not given you great gifts.

I really liked... You gave me a handmade wooden replica of the Philadelphia Eagles Stadium. That one was in the works for a while. I really enjoyed that gift a lot.

That gift was technically a retirement gift, and I put a deposit in for that. This really plays into the fact that he said he was retiring for so many years. He was going back and forth for so many years. I put I had to deposit in for that, I believe three years before you retired. So there's that. But it has all the details of the accolades that you received while you were in the league. And I thought it was the artist that did it. She's very talented. We can put a picture of that on the screen.

Outside of that, I'd go, SEGA Game Gear. I was seven years old. Jesus. I don't think I've ever matched the excitement. We used to have it on video.

Of you receiving that.

Of me receiving that gift. I don't know if we still do, or if that was one of the ones that got recorded over with law and order by dad. But that video of me getting that SEGA game gear, I don't think I've ever seen me that happy in my entire life. That was easily... I mean, I've never had that emotion.

Very sweet. Yeah. It's very nice. I would say the best gift I've ever received, I loved the Locket. The Locket caught me. You really caught me off guard on that one. And the other one I was going to say, which is funny because I'm really not a huge jewelry person. But my other one would also be when you got the necklace that was similar to the necklace I wore at our wedding, but it was stones that you had brought back from when you climbed Mount Kilimanjaro.

I mean, those stones were from a store at the bottom of in the middle of a Tanzanian shop. Yes.

But yes, that was on the trip. But then you brought them back and Raffy put them into...

Yeah, he put in a little pendant thing. Yeah.

You did a great job. You specifically referenced that it was similar to the necklace I wore when we got married.

Yes, it's more rare than diamonds.

He did also tell me that when he got the necklace.

Which isn't saying that much. Apparently, diamonds are super common. They're The supply is artificially controlled.

It was very pretty necklace. I just liked the thought that you put into it and the fact that you were like, I'm going to take this back and get it made into something. Yeah, it was very thoughtful. It was less about the jewelry itself and more about the thought that you put into it.

I'm a good gift giver. When I get to it.

Number five. Next from Janessa, what is your favorite romance/Valentine's Day movie?

My favorite Valentine? I I don't even know if I could name a Valentine's Day movie.

We have some rom-coms that you've actually seen.

Any movie of romanticism qualifies?

I think so.

I would say if we're going to just most romantic movies I've ever seen.

I do have some examples here. Queen Emma has put some in here in case you want a cheat-cheat. What do we got? When Harry Met Sally, You've Got Male, Clueless, Bridget Jones' Diary, The Proposal with Ryan Reynolds and Sandra Bullock, 10 Things I hate about you, The Holiday, Love and Basketball, Notting Hill, My Best Friends Wedding, My Big Fat Greek Wedding. Do any of those speak to you?

Not really. I mean, they're all good. I like all of them.

I feel like You like like a... I do like rom-coms more than- You like a Vince Vawn rom-com.

Yeah, I mean, the Vince Vawn rom-coms I know of aren't... The one I read, the breakup I love, but that's not a Valentine's Day movie. They end up breaking up. That's not a good Valentine's Day one.

One of my favorite rom-coms is How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days.

Yep.

Great movie. It's not bad because it ends up not working. No, Jay, they end up together.

That's what I'm saying. It ends up not working.

Oh, Yes.

That's good. No matter how much you try and fight love- You can't. Over a bet, a stupid, frivolous bet, you can't do it. Can't. It's a good movie.

I like- I also the proposal with Ryan Reynolds and Sandra Bullock. I do enjoy. I think I just love Sandra Bullock because I love Ms. Congeniality, too.

I don't know that I've seen that one. Have I seen that one?

Do we watch that? They go to Alaska. She's like his boss, and they go to Alaska for his grandmother's birthday party or something. That's not right, Bill. They're trying to fake it because she's Canadian and she's going to get deported.

Where the fuck do they come up with these plots?

I don't know, but the fact that they're still making movies and they're not just remaking old movies goes to show you that people have to get really creative. We're at a point where you have to get pretty far fetched to be able to put out a movie that's unique enough for someone to not be like, We already did that.

Like Splash because I'm a big fan of Mermaids.

I don't think I've ever seen that.

You've never seen Splash, and you're bringing up fucking some Alaska grandmother fucking-I think that you tried to get me to watch it, and I think I fell asleep, which is a common theme. I've never tried I want you to watch Splash.

I think the one time you did.

I don't think so.

We should watch that.

It's a very good movie.

We should watch that. Maybe I could stay awake. We should start it before 9: 30 PM, 50 First Dates.

I always want to say For the first date for some reason. Great movie.

Why 40?

I don't know. I always think it's 40 for some reason. I've said it wrong multiple times.

No, it's 50, and it's a great movie.

It's a very good movie. I think that actually It might be my favorite rom-com.

I'd watch that on Valentine's Day, but you're going to be two shit-face.

We can watch them before the parade. The parade is later. Let's go wake up early, pre-game the parade with 51st Dates.

Number 6, Next, from Perfect and Human. It's a beautiful name. What are your red and green flags? No, not Chiefs and Eagles in relationships that you want your girls to know about before they start dating.

Red flag for me is anybody that uses the term red flags. Just going to start it off right there. You say red flags, cringe, or any of these other words.

Oh, Jason.

Run for the hills.

What is actually a red flag?

That's a red flag to me. I think saying red flags is a red flag. Okay.

What is an alarming characteristic or behavior that if our girls said were dating someone with that, that you would be like, Absolutely not?

Anybody who doesn't treat service people with respect and kindness.

Good one.

Anybody that doesn't... That's just narcissistic. I don't really know what examples of that would be. I mean, everybody's a little cystic.

Yeah, I don't know. I think I guess to service people is a great one because that's an easy one. Most of the time you're going to go out on dates, even if you're out at a bar, how respectful are they to the bartender?

Yeah, I just think that... I think you can gauge- A lot. More about who people are and how they treat people that they have nothing to gain from.

Right.

I think that's a big one for me.

Sure.

Would you let our girls date a football player?

I Yes. But I'd be very skeptical.

I know a lot of great football players. I also know a lot of football players that I would not want to date my daughter for sure.

That is one of the popular questions. Have you seen those videos? Mm-mm. There's social clips of guys going into NFL locker rooms and asking their teammates who's the teammate you would least like to date your daughter. I'm just going to be so skeptical. Are you going to be skeptical of people that our girls bring home?

I am hopefully going to... Hopefully, both of us will show our daughters what good men and women are, that they will be able to decipher these things on their own.

Yeah, cool. Great. Awesome. That's all we can do. Are you going to be skeptical of them when they come home?

Nothing is going to help if we're being skeptical at that point. If they fall in love with the douchebag, there's nothing that us being skeptical is going to help.

Okay, number seven. Our last question from Maria Edward Hagner, 292. We know about your first date with Jason. How was your second date?

Second date. Second date, we went ice skating at Penn's Landing. Is that not our second date? Was that our third date?

I think that was our third or fourth date.

Definitely wasn't our fourth. It was either your second or third. What do you think second date was?

It was the Mudder Museum.

No? Yes. That was after the ice skating?

No.

I'm positive.

I'm nearly certain that the Mudder Museum was before that because you left the next day to go to Thailand. Then when you got back, we went ice I don't think so.

I think we went ice skating before Mudder.

Because we did Buffalo Billiards, then we ended up at whatever the bar was that was right by the Redding Terminal, two or three nights later when you were like, I really messed up the the first night because I couldn't form a sentence.

That was the second date then? What was that?

That was when we were in the bar with... It was by the Redding Terminal. I don't know what the bar was called.

It was a bar by Redding Terminal?

We went to a bar near the Redding Terminal market. We were with the guys who lived down the hall from you?

Was that second date? Yeah, that was like City Taphouse or something like that. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Was that their second date?

Well, it's the second time we met each other, but I guess that would technically be our second date.

Yeah.

Are we calling the first night a date?

I would not call it a date now.

I would not either. A quick meeting.

Yeah, we met up.

. Then we went there and chatted for a long time in the bar. Then the next date we went on was the Mudder Museum. We went to the Mudder Museum before you went to Thailand.

We went ice skiing before I went to Thailand. I don't think so. Yes, because the Penlanding ice skiing thing was not open after I went to Thailand. Yes, it was. No, it wasn't. I went to Thailand at the end of February That ice skating rink down there is not open in March. I don't think it was, at least. It's an outdoor ice skating rink.

I don't think it was open that long. You're going to have to look up when you went to Thailand because I think you went earlier than you think you did because you didn't make the playoffs that year.

Yeah, but those guys always went in February over to the Southeast Asia. That's where it was.

Yeah, but it might have been the beginning of February. We'll figure this out. Either way, we didn't go ice skating after Thailand.

That was before.

Then it had to be the third time we met up. I really thought the Mudder Museum was.

We can say both of them. It doesn't really matter.

Well, the Mudder Museum, I just remember because you got in the car. I picked you up from your apartment. We went to the Mudder Museum, and when we were driving back to your apartment for me to drop you off, right before you got out of the car, you were like, Oh, by the way, I'm leaving for 10, 14 days, however long it was, to go to Thailand. My friend called me yesterday and asked me, and I said yes. Yeah. I I was, and I specifically remember thinking, this is the most elaborate way to get out of having to talk to me ever. Yeah, and then you sent me a picture of a monkey on the beach while you were there. Without any other communication, I was like, okay, I guess you aren't trying to ghost me.

Then we went ice skating at Penn's Landing. There's an outdoor ice rink where I farted tying my skates when I bent down. I couldn't even play it off because it was so audible. There was no way to get out of it.

The worst fart. I can't. I grew up in a fart funny house. It's like, farts are funny.

That's a green flag. Let me tell you.

I grew up in a fart funny house. The issue was is that in that moment, I'm like, You cannot be crying, laughing when this man takes his head back up. He's going to be like, How immature are you? And so I was just trying desperately to calm down, stop laughing. That wasn't that funny. But this man bent over, farted, and then went... Whoops. It was so... Oh, my God. It was so funny, and I couldn't laugh. Oh, God. It was...

It's true love, people.

I can't. Oh, God, I can't. When you said, Whoops, I was like, This is not... Oh, God. That does it for a second. I just love how you have completely committed to now telling that story when you talk about the first day.

But now you know what I was going to do with that belly. If you bend over, you're going to fart.

I can't. Okay, that does it for a seven-ish question. We'll be back after this message about something else I love. Cheerios.

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Look at that. Queen Emma is a boss, okay? She has prepared pop culture trivia, the battle for who knows the least.

It's not going to be.

It's going to be really bad. It's going to be so bad. A few weeks ago, my guest, Amanda Hirsch, asked me who between us knows more about pop culture, and I honestly didn't really know the answer. I did settle on myself.

Is she a big pop culture person?

Very into pop. She has a podcast where she discusses pop culture. All of her social media is very great about updating you on pop culture topics in a way that's quick and easy to digest. She really breaks it down very, very well. And it's a passion of hers. You can tell.

She can tell that we're not into it?

What made her pose this question? She was asking because I said, I'm not going to lie, I'm really bad at pop culture. She said, Well, is Jason also bad at pop culture? Is it both of you And I said, if I had to say one of us was better at pop culture than the other, I would guess that it would be me. But neither of us are really clued in.

Let's find out.

We are about to find out.

I'm not bad with pop culture from With the '80s and '90s?

That's not what we're doing.

We're talking about current. So we're doing current. Yeah, there's no way we're going to get this. We're screwed.

I'm not getting this. No, no. Collectively screwed. Should we put a friendly wager on this?

Sure.

$2.

I thought you were going more interesting than that.

Oh, I just love a $2 bet. Sure.

$2 sounds good.

I love a $2 bet. What better wager did you have?

I didn't have anything in mind.

Well, then get creative, sorry. This is your question. I'm reading this, and I don't know the answer to it. Okay, Queen Emma surprised us with these questions, so we're going in blind. Number one, name just one of the 10 total movies nominated for best picture at the Oscars this year.

We just did this in the rundown of New Heights.

So you do know?

I'm trying to remember them right now. We're supposed to watch one.

You only have to tell me one.

I don't remember what movie we settled on. I think we were putting it to a vote. I'm trying to remember the four movies of the 10 movies that we discussed.

To be fair, one of the movies that's on this list?

Just let me think for a second. Okay. Oh, my gosh. I've seen one of them, too.

Yeah, you have.

To pull a name of any of these movies out. Wicked. God.

I was going to be very concerned if you had not arrived. I arrived there. Yeah. Okay.

All right.

This is another one I would not be able to personally get.

Are we going... Good luck. You're asking me five straight?

Yes, I am. Number two, The Bachelor. Scholar has been on TV for 29 seasons, which of the following men was a former bachelor? You might get this because of process of elimination, so pay attention. A, Zac Efron. B, Jesse Palmer. C, Holly D, D, Josh Richards, or E, it's a trick question, and they were all bachelors.

They were all bachelors?

Yes, that's E.

They weren't all bachelors. Okay. I'm pretty sure it was Jesse Palmer.

You are correct.

So I'm two for two now.

Yes.

Wow.

Nice. Okay. Number three, what is Prince Harry's wife's first name?

Oh, fuck. As a rule, I do not respect royalty in any way, shape, or form.

Your mom would nail this question so quickly. She loves it. She loves the British monarchy. She really does.

I just infirmly against monarchies in general.

Bonus points that mean nothing if you can name their formal titles.

Prince Harry. Yes. This isn't the one that's Megan That's Michael, right? That's one of the other princes?

That's Prince Harry.

Oh, Megan Markel.

Jesus. That's the only one I know. Do you know their formal titles?

Prince Harry and Princess Markel.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

Okay. That's my next guess.

Number four. Who just won Album of the Year at the 2025 Grammy Awards?

Who just won Album of the Year? Beyoncé.

Do you know the name of the album?

She won top country album. Did she win top album, too?

According to Emma's card, yes. Okay.

Do I know what it's called?

Do you know what the album's called? You don't need to know it. That wasn't the question, but it does have the- What's the- The Girls Like It.

The Girls Do Like That album. It is Do you know her last name? Beyoncé Knowles. No.

Married.

I don't know who she's married to.

Oh, Jesus Christ. We're so close. We were so close. You don't know who Beyoncé is married to. You do. It's a very short name.

Is it another artist? Yes.

Jay-z. There you go. Yeah, I did know that. Do you know his last name?

Z.

Jesus Christ. Okay. Carter?

Carter. Okay.

Cowboy Carter? Cowboy Carter. Is that not... That's her married last name, correct? Okay. All right. Number 5. What singer was formerly the star of the Disney channel sitcom Hannah Montana?

You have to know. This one's in my wheelhouse. I'm trying to remember her name right now.

It's because it's a far enough throwback.

When it's older, I usually can get it. Why can't I think of her name right now? I could picture her face. She's in her punk rock era. What the fuck is this woman's name?

It rhimes with my name.

It's Billy Ray Cyrus's daughter. What the fuck is her name?

Well, now you know her last name.

Miley Cyrus. Jesus.

I'm so concerned because I did not know most of those questions. You got five out of five. You didn't know those? Oh, no. I'm about to lose. Go ahead.

I think you're going to be out with question one. Tom Holland, AKA Peter Parker, in the latest Spider-Man franchise, just got engaged.

To Zendaya.

Wow. I don't even know who that is.

She's beautiful. Nice.

Which of the following is not an actual reality show currently airing on the Bravo Network?

I feel personally victimized by this question. You know I do not engage in Bravo. Okay, hit me.

A, Southern Charm, B, Summerhouse, C, Below Deck, D, The Real Moms of New York City.

D, The Real Moms of New York City. That's what I would guess to. Only because it didn't sound familiar. That's correct. Amazing. I have not seen any of those shows, any of the top three that you named. The only show that I have seen clips of, and it's only due to my TikTok doomscrolling, is Below Death.

Is Bravo just Home Improvement channel now?

No, that's HGTV.

Yeah, but Below Deck, Summerhouse, and Southern.

No, Below Deck is when they show the crews on yachts.

Yeah. That's not- That sounds like a HGTV. It's not just the crew. It's showing the whole thing.

No, it's not showing the yacht itself. It's showing the crew interacting with people who have chartered the yacht. It's basically the crew interacting with entitled people who have chartered a yacht.

It's like Deadliest Catch, but with a yacht.

I would watch Deadliest Catch. I I have watched Deadliest Catch. I would not watch below Dead.

Number three, what is the origin of the trend, Brat Summer, and calling things Brat in general?

Oh, I have no idea.

I didn't even know this was a thing.

I genuinely have no idea. I know that it is... I could be... Oh, my God. If I'm wrong on this, I'm going to sound like such an idiot. I know that there is some correlation with the color green and Brat. I don't know what it is. I don't know where it comes from.

Couldn't tell you. What is the context in which Brad is used?

What does it mean? I would love to tell you, but I don't know.

What's a Brat summer?

Couldn't tell you.

It sounds like somebody just going off and getting into mischief is what it sounds like. Would you care to venture a guess as to where that comes from?

Is it from a musical artist? It is.

I don't know who this artist is, but it is.

Is it Doja Cat?

It is not Doja Cat.

The excitement level that I reached when I said Doja Cat, I was really hoping you were going to say it is.

The album came out in June of Album was called...

Brett?

Yeah, that's right. It was released in 2024 in June by artist Charlie X C-X. The way he just read that. What does XCX mean?

Those are the initials that come after her name, but the way you spaced it was as if you've never heard the name Charlie X-C-X, which I have at least heard that name.

I've never heard that name. That's great.

I like the way you read that.

Go ahead. What does XXX stand for?

I have no idea.

Like X-X-X. Okay. Xoxo.

No. Happy Valentine's Day.

Who are the hosts of the hit dating show, Love is Blind. I know Travis knows this one.

There are hosts? It means it's a show. I'm dead ass.

It needs to be somebody hosting a show.

Yeah, but are they hosts that I would know?

I'm I'm getting you know both these people.

Oh, no. See, if you asked me who the host of the Great British Takeoff was, I might be able to help you.

I don't think you've met them. One of these people used to to Cincinnati all the time because he is from Cincinnati. So he would go do bear cat things or like Cincinnati-specific things. He was very popular.

This is terrible. I have no idea. I've never seen that show.

The male host was very popular in the '90s. Extremely popular.

Carson Daily?

Not as a host. He was popular.

Do you see? I just did what you said you could do if it happened in the early 2000s, '90s. He was in a popular boy band. Is it nick Lachet? It is nick Lachet.

Is it really? Yes. I'm assuming it's his wife, not his sister.

Vanessa.

Vanessa Lechet. All right.

I did not get that right. That required a lot of prompt.

Name one of the four current judges of The Voice. Shit.

Because Blake Shelton isn't there anymore.

Wow. I wouldn't have been able to get this.

And I don't think John Legend is there anymore. Is it saying one? One of the four judges.

You need one of the four judges currently.

I don't think Gwen Stefani is there anymore. Shit.

I wouldn't have gotten any of these either. I've got nothing. The one I probably would have... This is tricky. The one I would have guessed was Adam Levine.

And he's not on there anymore.

He came back, I guess, because he's on there again. Shit. I thought he left. I didn't know he had came back. Adam Levine is one of them. Michael Bouvlet.

What?

Yeah. Kelsey Houdini, and of course, John Legend. Shit.

Okay. All right. Well, he won pop culture. That does it for our first ever pop culture trivia off. You won. I owe you $2. I'll hit you when we get in the car. I'm a little embarrassed, to be honest.

I was honestly very happy with my performance.

I'm not surprised that I couldn't get them. I'm not surprised at all.

I do think you had harder questions. I don't think I knew any of the ones that you did not know.

You would not have been able to answer the ones that I had.

I would have probably just guessed Adam Levine because I wouldn't have known what other name would say.

Okay, that does it for this episode of Not Going to Thank you, Jay, for coming. Appreciate it.

A lot of fun. Thanks for having me.

I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode. We taped this one when I was in New Orleans, and I cannot wait for you guys to hear it. Yet another guest that I had absolutely no business talking to, but we had a great time sitting down for a chat. Listen and subscribe to Not Going to Lie wherever you get your podcast. Follow the show on all social media @nglwithkiley. Not Going to Lie is a wave original brought to you by Chirios. Yes. Thank you guys again for tuning in, and Happy Valentine's Day for any of you who actually celebrate.

That's the Wolverine guy, right? In twilight? Wolf.

The wolf in twilight. He's not a Wolverine, he's a wolf.

Isn't that what a Wolverine is? A person that transforms into a wolf?

No, werewolf.

Werewolf. Yeah, werewolf. My bad.

We were both off. Yeah, we were. We both fucked that up. Jacob. We're your team, Jacob?

I just was team, that guy needs to fucking get a life.

Jacob?

She was so not into him, and he was just lurking around. I just felt bad for Jacob. I had never seen the movies. When I actually sat down to watch them. I thought it was going to be this back and forth that she had. She was never into Jacob. She was into the other guy the whole time. I just remember there being team Jacob, team Edward thing happening.

Yeah, and you thought that it was an even split.

She couldn't decide. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, she was decided from the very beginning.

There wasn't a question.

At any point- Yeah, but then he imprinted on their kid.

Well, that's because he was freaking head over heels for it. It was just a sad story of Jacob.

The whole thing was creepy.

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