Transcript of Kylie on Worst Kid Gifts, NFL “Team Moms” & Raising Kids in Spotlight with Allison Kuch | Ep. 2

Not gonna lie. The other night, my husband called my name because our youngest daughter was wearing nothing but a pair of rain boots, and she did it all by herself. That's my girl. Alright. Episode 2.

Let's do it. Welcome to not gonna lie, a wave original brought to you by Dunkin'. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey. Still getting used to that. I'm also a mom, an Eagles fan, and a butter pecan enthusiast.

Coming up on today's episode of not gonna lie, we're in the holiday season, so I wanna get honest about gift shopping as a parent, specifically the presents I'm kindly asking you not by my children. Then I'll be joined by 1 of my favorite content creators, Allison Kooch, to talk about the 1st year as a new mom, creating a safe space for women in sports, and protecting our kids' privacy. It is a conversation I am greatly looking forward to. But first, you guys were, again, way too nice about this show. It absolutely blew my mind that you guys were able to get, not gonna lie, to the number 1 spot on Apple and Spotify.

I'm still in disbelief about that. The way that everyone has not only been so kind in the anticipation for episode 1, but then also the reactions you guys have had in the comments have been so encouraging, and I really appreciate you guys having such positive feedback considering I'm still a rookie and we're working out the kinks. But as anybody knows, no matter what, people are always gonna try and tear you down. I just really didn't know that the call would be coming from inside the house. Let's take a look at this tweet from at sayray10.

Kylie is the funniest Kelsey. There I said it. First of all, thank you so much. But then a reply came through from at jasonkell's funniest looking I tell him on a regular basis that he's not funny. I have to do that because there's so many people that laugh at his jokes and that tell him that he's hilarious.

I'll take it. I can be the funniest looking. I mean, the Kelsey jeans are strong. I am a hard outlier because they all look so much alike. So I can I can take that?

Funniest looking, I would take that, and I will be okay with it. I think that sometimes he forgets that I can actually see his tweet because we were on a phone call shortly after this tweet, and I did say to him, you know that I can see what you post on Twitter. And he said, I don't know what you're talking about. And I said, oh, I'm the funniest looking? And he goes, oh, yeah.

No. You're no. Your eye was you're beautiful. So way to backpedal, dude. Alright.

Before I bring on my guest, I wanna try out a new segment. I'm calling, can I be honest? Last week, I got honest about pregnancy. This week, I'm feeling in the holiday spirit. So let's get fucking real honest about kids' toys.

I don't know about you guys, but I often see toys when I'm out shopping or scrolling social media, and I just think to myself, not in my house. So consider this my please don't buy this for my children guide to holiday shopping. You're gonna wanna send this to aunts, uncles, grandparents, friends, anyone who has asked, what can I get the kids for Christmas? What can I get the kids for the holiday? This is this is your opportunity to have me deliver that harsh reality because we all need to get real.

And before I give you this list, please make sure to donate toys to your local charity. Here in Philly, we love toys for tots. I do think they're national, but please consider gifting toys while you're, buying gifts for other kids. Number 1, no toys that will require more than 5 minutes of assembly. Don't do that to people, guys.

Don't bring them a toy that requires assembly because a kid sees a box and sees the picture of the toy. They immediately wanna play with it. And you know what they're gonna do the whole time you're trying to assemble it on a Christmas morning, a Hanukkah evening, even this applies to birthdays. Let's be real. You know what that kid's gonna do?

They're gonna stand behind you and say, are you done yet? Are you done yet? I'm gonna I'm gonna take this screw, and I'm gonna take this piece, and I'm gonna try to put I'm gonna taste this 1. Don't do that to people. Let's let's not.

If you're gonna give someone that something that requires assembly, either do it yourself or consider something else. Number 2, hard pass on anything covered in glitter. I am still so shocked that we have not figured out a way better than a glue base to keep glitter attached to surfaces. This is coming from a mom of 3 girls. Pretty much everything we got has glitter on it, and it makes their hearts so happy.

I can't veto glitter as a whole, but I need you to get something that glitter is sealed. I need it. Attached to that surface, I need it not leaving it. Number 3, no volume control? Not in my house.

I'm gonna tell you a story. The gift giver will remain nameless because it's a little close to the family. When Wyatt was 2, she got an electric drum set, and it had 1 switch on it, on and off. It had no volume control, and I tried taping over the speaker. I tried putting it on a blanket when Wyatt wanted to play with it.

I could not get it to not be just assaulting everyone's ears when she was playing with the toy. And so it got retired after a week of living in our house into the bottom cabinet of our built ins. Cut to the following Christmas. That same person brought us and other drum set. I have so much guilt associated with this because as the new drum set was being opened, all I could think about was the fact that the old drum set was still retired in the cabinet.

Needless to say, the new drum set did have a volume control and was allowed to stay, but there's still a lot of a deep amount of guilt associated with the fact that I hid a Christmas gift from my child because I couldn't stand to listen to that damn thing for 1 more minute at the volume that it was playing at. I'm so sorry, Ed. Number 4, please don't gift my children living creatures. I don't want anything with a heartbeat. And to be clear, Queen Emma has on here that it has to be cleared first.

There will be no clearing. I don't want to care for anything else. Now, we have not been gifted anything with a heartbeat yet. I fear that the time will come eventually, and we will handle that appropriately by gifting that thing directly back where it came from. That being said, I truly just think that it would be a sick, twisted joke to gift let's be real.

You're not giving it to the kid. You're giving responsibility to that parent. And, I'm already proud of myself when I can keep 3 children alive each day. I don't need to be working on any more pets, specifically pets that I have not chosen to bring into my household. And lastly, number 5, no toys with too many pieces.

I don't know about you guys, but once the kids start playing with the toys that have a 1000000 pieces and I then have to go around and pick up all the little pieces, eventually, some will end up under the couch or in the trash or, honestly, sometimes in the fireplace. We don't don't freak out. We don't use our fireplace in our living room, but sometimes they end up in the fireplace, which is like a pit of despair. Nobody actually knows what's in the fireplace because there's a gate in front of it. That being said, most likely, it will end up as a not full set.

And then what good is that? Okay? We recently, the girls have been playing war with Jason, the card game. And after they play, Jason has been super careful to pack up the cards and put them out of reach of children because he knows that the minute those kids get their hands on a pack, we will no longer have 52 cards. So you gotta know what you're working with.

We're not doing too many pieces. I am going to throw out the parts when I step on them. It's like a you've now created a a negative dynamic between the 2 of us. I'm holding a grudge. You're going in the trash.

So not too many pieces, specifically small ones also. And special bonus, I thought this 1 went without saying, but I'm gonna say it anyway. No toy weapons. We've received a a couple weapons at this point. I do believe if you listen to another podcast, you may have heard when Ellie got picked off in the backyard by an airplane gun, by Wyatt.

So they've they've proved that they have not earned the trust required to receive weapons, because they will try to take each other out. And I I don't I don't wanna I don't wanna mediate any of that. Again, please donate to your local toy drives this year, and remember, you can always donate toys after the holiday if you receive any of those. Well, guys, we've arrived. It's officially that time in the episode where I get to talk to you about Dunkin'.

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Moving on, it's time now to bring on my guest who I have no business speaking to. She's 1 of my favorite content creators with millions of followers across every social media platform out there. She's also a fellow NFL wife, a mom of a newly 1 year old daughter, and the host of Sunday Sports Club podcast, and just the most relatable and funny follow, Allison Kooch. Wow. Welcome to not gonna lie.

I love that intro. Girl, we hype him up here. It's it's kinda we're you're gonna leave here feeling hopefully lifted.

I love that. Yeah. You should send that to my husband so he can wake up every day and just,

like And announce your presence.

Absolutely. To the whole topic.

We can make that happen. I said it in your intro, but your daughter, Scottie, which by the way, huge fan of the name. Huge fan. Heard that

you were maybe planning on naming 1 of your daughter, Scottie.

Yes. So, we I was very, very pregnant 2 Super Bowls ago. And had we had her in Arizona, it would have been in Scottsdale, technically. So we said, we'll give her the the initials s b. We were gonna do Scottie Bennett.

And then since she decided to be cooperative and stay in there, we went we reverted back to Bennett. But I do absolutely love the name Scottie. So well done on that.

Yeah. Thank you. I personally love it. But, you know, you get mixed reviews from other people. I think maybe, like, the older generation, when I say Scottie, they either think it's a boy or they're like,

Is it a family name? Do you get that a lot? Oh, no. Do you get that question a lot?

Oh, it's like it's definitely not I found it on Pinterest.

It was like Is that where we find all of our baby names?

Yeah. It was under, like, grandpa inspired baby names. Like, oh, Scotty. That's cute. But, yeah, I've gotten the is it a family name?

I've gotten is it short for something? I've gotten all the questions and I'm like, nope. Just just Scotty.

It's just an adorable name. Well, thank you. And it suits her?

It suits her so well. We thought of that and few other names, and I've tried calling her the other names and she just well, she doesn't respond to them, honestly, but but it also just doesn't fit her personality. She's, like, sassy and spunky, so it fits really well.

That's amazing. And how was how was the 1 year birthday? How was it?

It I feel like it was really sad. I mean, especially for your first because the year goes by so quickly, and she's starting to get older. And I'm like, wait. That's it's so sad. But also, it's so much fun celebrating her at a year mark because I feel like that's a huge like, a year of being alive and then also a year of everything I've gone through.

And it's just crazy that it went by so quick. And so it was fun to celebrate her. We ended up going to Disney. I don't know that she even knows everything that's going on. She's like, wait.

Why are we inside like this? Like, taking her on rides was trippy. She was just like, wait. Hold on. I'm not allowed on screen time, but I'm able to see all of this.

I always say that taking your kids to Disney at a young age is it's for us. Absolutely. Like, their reaction, they're, like, look of awe on their face. It's a 100% for us.

And I was like, I was like, hold the baby. I'm going on this ride that that Good. She can't go on.

So I

was like, let me just do the solo rider. So absolutely, it was it was solely for me. Like, I was the 1 eating the Mickey ice cream. I was the 1, like, buying the sweatshirts. She was

In motherhood, you just like, you survived 1 year of motherhood.

Absolutely. I I wanna throw a party just for me and, like, my journey.

A 1000%. 1 of the things that you've talked about is specifically, like, getting your pink back and the idea that a a mother flamingo will lose its pink because it's tending completely to baby. And after a while, it will start to get its color back.

Mhmm.

Why did you like, is that is that just the opportunity you've found to sort of build community with women in similar situations, or why did you connect with that so deeply?

Yeah. I didn't know anything about the whole movement of getting your pink back until, I think, it was 3 months postpartum, and my husband comes home. He has a package in his hand and it's a sweatshirt. And on the sweatshirt, it's like, oh, I'm getting my pink back. And I was like, what?

It's like, what what's this about? And he was like, oh, it's like a flamingo loses its ping. And he was like, I feel like I see you down sometimes, and I think that you should, like, really dive into, like, the journey of, like, finding yourself outside of motherhood and all these things. So Isaac actually, like, helped inspired me to maybe, like, find my own identity outside of just being a mom. And I think it's just been a fun movement to attach myself to at least for, like, this current time because what better way like, it's a great excuse to, like, go out and, like, be independent outside of your marriage, outside of being a mom, and find what you love doing.

Like, I just I think that, like, for a year you're pregnant and then for the year you're postpartum and finding yourself outside of that is so healthy, not only for you, but also for your family.

Yeah. And and in that, like, what are some of the things that you've sort of done? I mean, 1 Specifically.

Yeah. 1 of them is I'm training for a marathon. I don't like running. I

Yeah.

Don't know that I want. I think it's just that I do.

I power to you. It would not be me. I need a reason to run.

I'm just, like, mid run. Like, do I actually wanna do that? And, like, well, I'm getting my pink bag, so it's just part of the journey.

Yeah. I always say I'm not running unless I'm running for something or from something. So that's why field hockey worked. I was always, like, chasing a ball or a person. But, like, outside of that, I'm like, no.

I'm I'm good. Now you guys you and Isaac have chosen to not post Scottie on social media. Jason and I have shared that we have scaled back sharing our own kids online. We've had sort of a weird limbo between the documentary because, obviously, they were included in that. But then, also, my social media was from before I had as many followers as I have now.

So me sharing my kids before was just like a very, like, I'm sharing it with my friends and family. But it's it's not that anymore. So we've been really tactical. What what went into that decision for you guys to keep Scottie's identity private?

I think that there's a fine line between sharing and oversharing. And for us, we share so many parts of our life. I mean, the NFL, how I felt about my husband getting a job and losing a job and then everything in between. So when it comes to me and my experience, there's nothing really off limits. I am kind of an open book, and I think a lot of women I'm able to help women in that way and other people, like, struggling through things.

When it came to my daughter, we kinda went back and forth. And then I think we settled on the idea of, like, well, let's just not share her for a while and see how we feel about it. Initially, postpartum, I was like, this is the cutest baby ever. Like, the fact that I can't show people the cutest baby ever. Like, I'm struggling.

But I think it was really healthy and it was a good, like, very good for us that it was the separation of, okay, we're taking this video for us, for ourselves, for her to see later down the line. And it never felt like, oh, we're pulling out the camera, and it felt icky in a way. It always felt very, like, oh, I'm just a mom recording my child. And not to say that people who share their child online are doing it only for that. But I I do I like that we kept her we've kept her private.

I did for her first birthday post a video of some of the memories with her face in it, and I was a little anxious to do that. But I think that I feel very comfortable. Me and my husband feel very comfortable not showing her day to day, not showing her every move, like, not using her for videos. And the fact that people have seen her face now, I feel very comfortable with, and I I think it get got to a point where it was then like a game, like, covering her with an emoji or covering her in this way. And I was like, okay.

She I wanna keep her private, but not a secret. And, I think now I've gotten to the point where I'm like, okay. If people see your face, it's okay. But, like, I'm not gonna go and make a video of, like, Scottie's day in the life or what have you not. Just because it's something I'm not comfortable with.

Right.

And I I feel very confident when it's to keep her private.

Now when you guys are out in public, I would imagine that you guys get recognized all the time. First of all, you guys are appropriately so, but have a very large following, both you and your husband. But then also you guys are both very tall people, stick out like sore thumbs. We run into that as well. It's very hard to, like, blend into a crowd when you're, like, 511.

You're, like, yep. That's me. How how have people reacted to seeing Scottie in person?

Yeah. It's funny you mentioned the tall thing because the tall thing matters.

It does.

It because people note it. I mean, Isaac's a big big dude. So and then I'm also tall blonde. So when we are in public, I feel like we are very noticeable, especially for, like, the height. You can see us from a mile away.

And with our daughter, I feel like we've had mixed experiences.

I will say we've had a moment with our oldest specifically when we get back from very public situations, which we don't take them in often just because I can't always assume that everyone is going to be respectful in a way that I want to display for our kids.

Right.

That being said, we've brought our daughter home from places, and just the other day, she was like, I'm such a big fan. Can I take a picture? And I was like, who the fuck are you talking to?

Kids, they keep you humble.

I was like, excuse me? Where did you hear that? And she was like, that's what they say to dad. And I was like, okay. A couple years ago, she was 3, and we were out at the beach, and she came we came back the house, and it was probably 2 or 3 hours later, so you could tell she was stewing on it.

And she looked at my husband and goes, are you Jason Kelsey? He was like, yes. This is a pop quiz? What why, what's going on? And she was like, that's what they asked you at the beach.

Are you Jason Kelsey? And I was like, god, you parrot. Like, it's you don't realize how much they're soaking in every second. And so that's why now we're super tactful about not only posting them, but then also how much external interaction they're getting.

Mhmm.

And now it's very much like we leave the house, and I, like, take my parents or I take my nieces with me. And they know, like, no one's to take pictures of them. Like, it's it's very, like, like, padded. Like, it's very Mhmm. Insulated Absolutely.

Experience, which is is a shame because that's not how my husband and I grew up, and we're really trying to navigate it. But it is it's a strange line to tote. So I I absolutely love the fact that you've done, like, the play on, like, just getting the side of Scottie's face and, like Mhmm. Let's talk about something else we have in common besides motherhood. We're both married to football players.

Oh, yeah. That.

I will preface this with my husband. We were in a very small percentage. We were unbelievably lucky. He was in Philadelphia for his entire 13 year career, but that was not that's not your experience with the NFL.

Like, oh, okay. Very different experiences.

Cool. Thanks so much for doing that. Yeah.

Of course.

Now was there a city that you felt the most community with the women there? Because I have I have, again, not experienced outside of the Philadelphia Eagles organization and the women that I've come across there, but it has been, like, naturally with the NFL, a revolving door of women going other places and then staying in contact with them and finding out what the community was like the next place that they ended

up. Totally.

So what were the was there 1 city that stands out as a really strong, like, community with the women?

Yeah. And it was the Los Angeles chargers. But I have to think, was it because we were there for 4 years? Was it because we stayed here year round? I think all those factors definitely come into play because every place I've I've had a really good experience with other women.

Definitely some teams who emphasize family more than others, but I think that just kinda comes to the territory. The Chargers had a lot to do with the family outside of just the guys. I think maybe being, like, owned by the Spanos family helped with that. There were a lot of, like, activities for the women. There was, like, weekly hangouts.

We also live near the beach, so, like, yoga on the beach. Maybe that helped with that. We also were drafted with a group of men who had girlfriends, and they also got engaged and then got married along the same time frame. So I think that had to help with that. And everybody, my husband, got drafted with stayed for the full 4 years, which is very rare.

But it is interesting to think that when you're in sort of the same phase of life that it lends itself to building a little bit of a stronger community because you're hitting the same phases at the same time.

Right. And so whenever people ask me, oh, are there clicks when it comes to, like, an NFL team with the the wives and women? I'm like, no. It's really just, like, don't have kids, have kids.

Have time, don't have time.

Exactly. It's like, hey. Can we get a play date? Because I need a glass of wine and I need somebody else to drink it with.

Another human being to speak another adult to speak to.

Somebody who can, like, talk back, and not yell at me, that would be great.

We did get to a point in Philly where I had somehow become the oldest. It was it was always like a I was like, 0 0 0, shit. That is me.

You're like And so looking for somebody who's gonna play.

Yeah. I'm like, is anyone else gonna take the lead? Anyone? Anyone? Nope.

Okay. But we got to a point where we would almost so, like, stalk people on social media just to be like, do you have you posted with a girl? You you just got here. Have you posted with a woman recently? Mhmm.

If so, we'll go to her page. If her page is private, we'll ask before we follow. But otherwise, if she's public, we can see that you guys are still together. We'll just slide in your DMs and, be like, hey. Welcome.

Because I think that there is just they're so busy, and they're trying to build their own relationships in the locker room. And if I ever went to my husband and said, hey. Can you approach so and so and ask for his significant other's phone number? It would be 3 years before I got that. So I

find the phone number in, like, a wad at the end of football season in, like, a shoe or something.

In a cleat at the bottom of the locker. Yes. Exactly. So, we really found that the best way to do it was to just be direct and say, like, hey. If you need anything, it was the same situation as you for LA.

Like, we're here year round. If there's anything I can be of assistance with or you need advice about or even if it's just a restaurant recommendation, let me know.

Mhmm.

Because I do think just initiating contact, I might not be your community here. Right. But I can but I can help you in Mhmm. To then introduce you to the other women.

And that's God's work. Like, I have to say, like, on behalf of all the girls who are have traveled around to different teams, people like you make the experience so much better and so much less lonely. And I I know that, like, I've been reached out to via DM and I get, like, random chats like, hey, I got your number from so and so. Like, hey, if you need anything. And those are the girls that I always gravitated towards because I'm like, oh, you're okay reaching out to a stranger and offering x, y, and z.

Like, this is great. This is helpful. And I feel like even having 1 point of contact that you can be like, hey, is there like a good bagel place around here? Like Or even just that.

How do you get to the family room? Like, you're in the stadium and you're all by yourself and state some of the stadium staff often know where it is, but I I can't tell you how many people I would get, like, a random phone call during the game and they would be like, what section is it behind? Like, I'll be right there. But it's just it's having that point of contact, and we really can't rely on our it's I mean, similarly to everything else in life. Like, we as women need to be sort of that self sufficient, can't rely on our husbands.

And so we we just gotta take matters into our own hands, but I we would I also felt like there was there was always a drop off between, like, practice squad

Mhmm.

And people who were in during preseason. And so we would always try to make that contact early because at the end of the day, even if you're not on the final roster in Philadelphia, you could be going to a team that we know someone who had been in Philly for a long time who's there, and we can connect you then. So it was always this I mean, there's a very large web of women in the NFL, and I think the best thing that they can do, I say they now because I'm retired. But the best thing they can do now is to continue to sort of weave the web and make sure that the women feel supported and connected and can do that independently outside of their spouse or significant other.

Absolutely. I think I think so many people kind of forget that is that these players are going through all these things and ups and downs and what have you not, but also the wives and say we get others and family members are also going through that. So I think even when I talked about it on social media of, like, oh, yeah, there's a family room. There's this. There's that.

And people like, oh my god. He should just stick to football. I'm like, hold on. I'm not even talking about him. I'm talking about me and what I need.

And I'm like, moving to a new city is never easy. And so having the like, a group of women or even having something as simple as like, oh, okay. Like, I'm gonna go down to the family room for 5 seconds. I can just take a break. I think that's, like, the biggest game changer, and it's surprising that some teams I've, like, filled my husband has filled out a questionnaire at the very beginning of the season and, like, they're like, oh, do you have a significant other?

And then they'll get the numbers, and it's crazy that it it's they haven't figured it out yet.

Crickets? Yeah. But we what's going on? I I I do think there were multiple seasons where we in in Philly would get to November

Mhmm.

And then have a moment of, oh, shit. Somebody plan a holiday party. Like, we still haven't gotten together. You you

hosted a Christmas party, did you not?

We did. Yes. I did not host it, but I I, co hosted it. You don't want any parties at my house. You'll be, like, tripping over toys and sliding in, like, yogurt.

You're, like, it's for the best. Yeah. You don't unless you, like, don't mind getting your, like, pants dirty when you sit down on our couch, like, then come on over.

But it is crazy because I feel like every single team has, like, a team mom in a way. Not very

much stuff.

You don't even have to be a mom, but it's usually a guy who's on a contract for a few years. I would say usually o lineman, maybe sometimes quarterback, but usually o lineman. And it's 1 of the wives that's just like, hey. I've been here for a minute, and you just have to take it's like literally team mom.

Yes. And and it's it's not always top choice. Like, I was I'm not kidding. Every time every year, like, the last, I would say, 2, 3 years of Jason's career, I would be like nobody else gonna raise your hand. No 1?

Shit. Okay. Like, here we go. Okay. I guess I'm doing it now.

And it's not because I didn't want to. I just, like, was very much, like, I feel unfit for this role. Well, usually, I feel like it's

a fit. Like, if you have Oh.

You

have 3 daughters, like, you have to be a little fit.

I'm still not sure how that happened.

Literally about to have 4 daughters.

Yeah. Still not sure how that happened. I still have moments where I'm like, I'm a teen teen mom. That's crazy. Wait.

No. I'm not. I'm in my thirties. Okay. Here we are.

I was here to tell my parents I was pregnant, so I feel like a baby still for sure.

I'm permanently 24 in my head. It's the age that I'm stuck at. I will always be 24. You can't talk me out of it.

I'm right there with you. So you I'm sure it's surprising when people like, wait, you're the

oldest on the team. And you're like, oh, that's what it was. Every year, the rookies would come in and I'm like, oh, we're this not the same age. Never mind. We are not we are the girls would

tell me

from college. You're like, oh, okay. I remember those days. Yeah. It's like it really it humbles you quick because then the new girls come in and they're I mean, it 22.

Young and have energy. They're like, girl. At halftime, I'm like, you bring it to my seat.

Yes. They're, like, going to tailgate before the game, and I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna pop a nap real quick so I can last through this 8 o'clock.

My pregame is sleeping in his car right before the game.

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You used to jokingly lean into the stereotypes of athletes' wives and girlfriends, and how they would spend their husband's money or they were gold diggers and just sort of all the stereotypes that follow us around. Love it. But you slowly came to start to expose the other things that you had going on, owning property, managing Airbnbs. And, I I I mean, the podcast is called Not Gonna Lie. That was the moment where I was hooked.

I was like, oh, she's been trolling all of you. Yeah. And this is perfect. What were the things that you had going on while you were sort of just making light of really, I'm assuming people in your comments.

When I first started on social media, I worked full time as an interior designer in Los Angeles. I would commute every single day to LA while my husband played for the chargers. I loved it. But then when he was a free agent, I understood that I might have to move somewhere, and I'm not trying to commute back to LA for work. And I loved being creative in every other way.

So I I took all my savings. It propelled me to make an investment, and I bought an investment property in Scottsdale, Arizona. And I have this interior design background. And I was like, wait. If I own Airbnbs or, you know, short term investment or if I do a fixer upper, like, I can still make my own income, have my own identity outside of football.

And, like, also, it'll help me and Isaac later in the long run. So when Isaac retires, you don't have to get a normal job. Like, we can figure out something together. And I loved it because I got to be creative. I got to do something that I love and also got to make money outside of my husband.

And so then I started my social media while I was designing my Airbnb, and, of course, all these people are saying, oh, you're a gold digger with money. I'm, like, probably would have he got drafted in the 7th round. Like, if it was for money, I probably would have went somewhere different. But, I started talking about, like, oh, yeah. I'm a gold digger and following him and all of that, and it was crazy.

I loved being, like, the satirical comedic person. Like, I loved it because I was like, I don't have anything to hide. I have 2 investment properties now, and I'm making more money than my husband. But sure. Okay.

We can talk about that. And I got to be creative, and I found, like, my love of social media, which I've been posting on social media for a long time, but it wasn't until the TikTok era that it started going somewhere, and I got to start working with cool companies like the NFL.

I do love the idea of sort of if you're if you're saying it about yourself Mhmm. And someone else says it, it's like you're you're not original. I already said that about myself. I already

said I was a little bigger.

Like Yeah. That's I already said that, so actually I know irrelevant. Yeah. I'm like, okay. It I I was obviously I think it was the whole NFL algorithm, but I loved seeing your content pop on my bio for you page.

And then it really was that moment where you were just like, hey, guys. I actually own property, and I'm, like, doing my own thing, where I was like, yes. Troll them harder.

Yeah. You're like, keep going. No. Get them. Like, push it harder.

Then keep going.

Get them for all of us. Like me, you're also a big football fan and host an incredible podcast, the Sunday Sports Club. I do think it's amazing that you've created this space to talk about sports in a way that is easily digestible

Mhmm.

And then also safe space for women specifically. Because I feel like I grew up watching football with my dad. I still, when I first started dating Jason, would sit with him and, like, teammates or him and Travis, and it would be this sort of, like, well, they were a nickel and then and I'm like, who took who had why did they have coins? What do what? I think that that's amazing that you've created that space for women specifically.

Mhmm. Because I do think there's so many people who would love to get involved. Like, it is it's so exhilarating to watch a really good game.

It is. You have to understand, like, a certain level to to really be interested in that. And I think that's where I was like, wait. I feel like a lot more women and even people who aren't interested in football would find it more interesting if they knew a little bit more about it. And because I think that's even been, like, the first few games I went to of Isaac's, I was like, I don't really give a shit.

And then once I started really to learn about the, like, ins and outs of football and, like, how fun it can actually be, I was like, wait. I love football. I don't need my husband. Like, who cares?

I will say there's still situations where I've watched so much offensive line that I still watch football from the trench. Like, I when things happened in the secondary, I'm like, I can usually guess the flag before it's, like, spoken, but for the most part, like, in the trenches, like, that was a hold. And I can do that before they throw the flag. I'm like, that you better oh, 0, okay. Thank you.

Jason is coming home, and he's like, I don't have to watch film. My wife's just gonna give me the play by play.

Well, it got to a point where he would be like, what'd you think after a game? And I'd be like, well, honestly, that 1 poll, like, you missed your block. But, like, outside of that, you did great.

Offensive lineman, like, wives are it's crazy because y'all, like, actually know so much. Whereas, then I feel like defense, I'm just like, oh, watch Isaac. Like, whatever. But it is so interesting.

It's like tackle him. Like That's literally all I know

about him. Yeah. And then when, like, the whole offensive line crumbles, I'm like, I don't know what just happened. There's always, like, an offensive lineman girl being like, oh, it's him. And then

yeah. Very much. I feel like you can very much after watching that much offensive line, I can be like, there it is. Yep. I know.

I know who that was. And if it was Jason, I'd be like, Hey, that 1 was you.

Yeah. Like, I actually will. Yeah, that was my husband. Don't worry. I'll get him for later.

That's amazing. Well, Allison, Ally, thank you so much again for joining me. I really this was outstanding. I'm so happy that we finally got to connect. And, like I said, I'm just a huge fan of what you're doing and the conversations you're having about postpartum and, the safe space you're making for women in sports, I really I can't thank you enough for coming on to talk to me today.

Yeah. We'll have to get you on Sunday Sports Club.

Happily. Whenever you want. I love it. Thank you for having

me on.

In the spirit of complete transparency around here, I talked to Alison for a longer conversation. We really just couldn't be stopped. You'll be able to find some exclusive never before seen clips on Monday right on our YouTube channel. I also loved all of your pregnancy craving submissions. Keep them coming.

I recently saw 1 that was freshly baked brownies with potato chips crumbled on top. I'm trying it. Also, I'd love to see what questions you guys have for me. A little ask me anything? So please ask away via TikTok and tag at NGL with Kylie.

I will tell you a secret. If you tag me during the hours of, I would say, 9 PM to 10:30, that's Eastern Standard Time. There's a decent chance that I see it because it'll pop up in my top banner, so just a little hint. And that does it for episode 2. Thank you again to our guest, Ali Kooch.

Watch and subscribe on YouTube to the not gonna lie channel where I'll also be dropping never before seen clips. We'll be back with a brand new episode next Thursday. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Follow the show on all social media at nglwithkylee. Not gonna lie is a wave original brought to you by Dunkin'.

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