Transcript of Episode 636: Aaron Hernandez Part III - Fourth & Forever

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There's no place to escape to.

This is the last hot task.

On the left.

That's one of the When the cannibalism started.

Who was that? It is to be, it is up to be. Got to get in the car. It's me, Aaron Hernández. I'm so sad. I think it's because I did all the murder. At least I got all this time now in jail, reading my Harry Potter's. Oh, Hermione, was you my girlfriend? Serious. So serious thinking and reading stuff.

I love when you do all the research.

Yeah. I did hear that one section from Aaron Hernández. Did you hear that when he asked for the Harry Potter's? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Can you send me the Harry Potter's? I was like, If that isn't what the CTE shows, if that doesn't come through, he's sitting in jail. He's been like, I was thinking, I'd like to know what those red hair kids are doing. What shenanigans they're up to, making different magic chicks.

I'm fucking reading this James Patterson book, which is pretty good.

You're reading James Patterson?

Well, he wrote the Aaron Hernandez book. Wow. Yeah. I'm reading this book, and he's talking about what Aaron liked to read in jail. Then, of course, he's like, He loved Alex Cross. He's listing the authors he liked, and he listed his name. It was just James Patterson. I was like, You fucking piece of shit.

I like the bone collection. My favorite movie in the world is it because you got the guy who played with Shoshana. He's all serious, catch criminals and all. Alex Cross, you Go.

Wait for the last podcast on the left. Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Marcus Parks. I'm here with the man that is deep into his character, Henry Zbrowski. It's me, Henry Zbrowski.

See, I practice every day, real hard.

I hated the voice when you first started doing it. It's grown on me now. It's weird. It really is weird how much it's grown on me. Yeah, you're welcome. We have the man who has taken us on this journey through three parts, this journey through high school football, through college football, through the NFL, and beyond. We have Ed Larson.

Man, I am ready for this to end. I hate your job, Marcus.

It sucks, right? It's the hardest stuff to our job.

What's funny is that I can't wait to get back to my job. I really do miss it. I can't wait to get back to writing next week because we got, God damn, we're coming back next week with something fucking huge, something big, and I can't wait to get back to it. But you've been doing a fantastic job, and I've really been enjoying. I've been enjoying being on this side of it, but I do miss my writing.

Yeah, man. I miss it, too. I can't wait to smoke the biggest Aaron Hernández-size blunt when I get out of here. In the celebration room.

Not that like a blunt that makes me a little bit more easier to do crime.

I was actually today leading up to this recording, I was just sitting there in my house listening to Jimmy Smith, listening to a jazz record. I was like, Is this what life is like for them? Just waiting for me to be done?

No, I'm normally yelling and doing other shit. All right, here we go. Come give it to us, Eddie. Lay it down, fucker.

All right, you piece of tubby shit. When we last left our superstar, Aaron Hernández, he just gotten himself mixed up in an old Jammerino of the highest order.

Is that a legal term? Jammerino? Yeah, Jammerino.

You know Jammerino? He's got liver disease now. He's a quarterback for the Dolphins. Yeah, Jammerino.

I remember. I remember. I remember. He taught me how to bought him.

Well, after presumably murdering two men for almost no reason in the middle of the streets of Boston, he had tried to kill Alexander Bradley, his best friend, by shooting him in the face in West Palm Beach, Florida, with two fucked up dudes named Papu and Soulja. Somehow, Bradley took a bullet to the head and came out alive, but a down an eye.

Hey, honestly, less things to see out there. It's a rough news cycle. Yeah, don't approach him on the right.

You He might get shot.

He is skittish.

He's now trying to figure out how to take his revenge through either murder or extortion. Him and Aaron got into some text battle exchanges for the ages with misspelling and puncture Situation galore. It was my emotion.

I love you. Good night. I love you. Hope you get some good sleep. I love you, so I shot you. Thinking about you.

I give Bradley a pass. He's down an eye. What are you going to do? Now, Aaron's out in LA rehabbing his shoulder, but is spiraling out of control at home, at the bars, and in his own mind. The only good thing that comes out of this time were a couple of stellar incubus tattoos and a camry all full of guns.

Hey, the guns don't just get in them cameras accidentally. You got to fight for that.

Now, let's get back to New England and get ready for the upcoming season. Aaron is trying to pretend he's got nothing bad going on, but inside his own CTE pot riddled brain, he's prepping for the worst.

Just think that this guy is... We've all seen the pictures of his brain at this point. It is absolutely fucked. The guy smoking weed 24 hours a day. It is not good in any way whatsoever.

At the time when they checked on his brain after he died, he had stage 3 CTE, and Dr. Mckee said it was the strongest case of CTE she had ever seen in someone his age. Yeah. At that time. You're welcome.

How many stages are there Four. Four? What happens with stage four?

Stage four, I do believe you turn into pure energy. You go super sad. I think once you go super sad, and that's when you kill the entire football team. Nice.

Aaron dropped thousands on security cameras inside and outside his house. He's building an arsenal of guns and is even in the process of buying an armored car at this time.

It's also safe to say nobody has stepped to Aaron Hernandez at this point.

No, he has not been threatened by anyone. This is all in his own making. He is a man- Well, he did shoot a gangster in the face. Yes, so he does.

I will say he is paranoid, but this is a timeline.

But he shot a gangster in the face Who wasn't asking for it? But he's having text exchanges saying, Love you. Good night. Good night. They're having... As far as text exchanges between a guy who's been shot in the face by the other guy, it's pretty fucking cordial.

Yeah, he's back in town. He's dealing with all the same characters at this point, TL and Tanya Singleton, Carlos Ortiz, and of course, Bo Wallace, who seems to be his go-to guy at this point when it comes to getting shady-ass shit done. During this time, Aaron's drug use is at an all-time high, and he wasn't even hiding it anymore. Openly making calls to buy drugs in the Patriots locker room and shit.

Did you see all of the various letters we got from people that had experiences with Aaron Hernández throughout high school?

No, I don't get the Side Story's email.

Yeah, I got a bunch of emails.

You got to send those to me before I write the It's a script.

To be honest- It seems like that would be highly relevant information.

Well, a lot of it, the problem is a lot of it's hearsay, and I don't want to just say things that people say necessarily. But to be honest, it wasn't a heck of a lot of information other than the fact Aaron Fernandez was a total piece of shit that has always gotten away with every single thing, no matter what it was and stuff like this. He was been doing since high school. He's been literally... They said that he failed a test. There was some test he failed, and they just let him retake it. You know what I mean? They do stuff like that. They needed him. Yeah. They would do stuff where if they knew there was one where they knew he was going to fail a midterm, they sat him out. He went and sat in the administration office to not take the test so that he could prepare later on to take... He had never experienced a single set of consequences.

Dude, one of my coaches, Coach Campino, he was the driver's Ed teacher, and he's like, Just sign up for driver's Ed in summer Don't show up. I'll give you an A. We'll bring up your GPA. Yes, he's nice. Oh, man. But you see, at this point, there's a fucking hole in Aaron's life. Alexander Bradley. Bradley, of course, had a new hole of his own. Hernández needs a new bestie, someone he could trust, someone he can relate to, someone that can roll a sticky-ass blunt and be just a little bit worse than him in Madden.

That's why I met my new friend. Have you seen him? His name is Mr. Snuff-al-up-a-guss.

He's a magical elephant. And he says all types of stuff. Like stuff like kill, kill, kill, kill, kill He's so violent, that Snuff-Luff. He's crazy. It's the first part of his name is Snuff. Well, the dude who's going to fill that hole is his future brother-in-law, Oden Lloyd. Oden was a landscaper by day and semi-pro football player by night. These Jenkins girls certainly love their football players. I'll tell you that much.

They do. Oden Lloyd, by all accounts, good dude. Everyone liked him. That is the one thing that in every single documentary that you see about Aaron Hernandez, you just have a parade of people talking about how good of a dude Oden Lloyd was. That just dazzled by Fame, unfortunately.

No. He was enamored with the fact that him and of the best players in the NFL were potentially about to be in-laws. Aaron used to refer to Oden as the Blunt Master. That's my boy. The Blunt Master is down for whatever Aaron wants to do. Just like everyone else that knew Hernández, Oden starts putting Aaron's wants and needs ahead of his own. But Aaron's doing that classic manipulator thing. He's throwing money and lavish things at him all the time while treating him like he's less than him.

Everything's transactional.

It's transactional, but Aaron Hernández has that learned helplessness that a lot of these guys end up having where people just do shit. King Baby. Yeah, King Baby. Where people just end up doing shit for him. There's no consequences, and everyone just coalesces and does whatever the fuck he wants.

Because he's got a lot of resources, and every single time something doesn't get done for him, he throws a massive temper tantrum, and that makes everybody walk on eggshells around him. That's when he's becoming more and more out of pocket, and everybody, nobody wants to deal with it.

Also, everyone lets him get away with shit because whenever he does fuck up and he knows it, he'll buy you something. Of course. He'll give you some money. It's just like, he's not that bad, but it's just a way for him to get away with doing horrible things. Aaron rented Oden a Chevy suburban. Oden, see, he's too broke to have his own ride. He gives him all the weed he wants. And most importantly, Shaina and Shaneia are happy their men are getting along so well. This should have worked perfectly. Other than Aaron's erratic, violent behavior, the real reason Oden couldn't fill Alex's Alexander Bradley shoes is because he was just, by all accounts, a really calm, nice man. Yeah.

Yeah. He's a normal guy.

It really is a goddamn shame.

But what it shows you is that it doesn't matter if you're a good man or someone of questionable moral character like Bradley. If you're right next to Aaron Hernandez, bad shit's going to happen to you. He's going to turn on you eventually. Oh, yeah.

He grinds through people.

That's just the way he does it.

Everyone in his life. He has to deal with some bullshit, and he's usually the center of it. We're looking at June 14th, 2013. Aaron, Oden, and a crew of friends are out partying a club roomer in Boston. Outside the club that night, Aaron and Oden were seen in a verbal altercation. No one really knows about what, but we all know it could have been about anything because of how unstable Hernández was.

Everybody knows the Purple Teller Tuffy is the nicest boy. Everybody I won't have you tell me anything different. Okay? Purple Teller Tuffy, Ben Teller Tuffy.

There's apartments above us, bro. Calm down. Purple Teller Tuffy, my motherfucking homie.

My motherfucking homie.

It's okay. It's okay. He just lost the Super Bowl. It's fine. Ben Teller Topy, bro. I'm not making me gay.

I'm not getting Ben Teller Topy.

But the rest of the night, Aaron and Oden stayed away from each other. The The tension was thick in the club. It felt like the beginning of belly up in that bitch. Oden's trying not to let it ruin his night.

He liked that green ass fucking Teletup. Hell, yeah, man. Fuck that, dude. I like that fucking green ass Teletup. Fuck that shit, man.

Fuck that shit. You know my favorite? The Baby.

That's why I like that green baby son because that show shit's going to be all right. That's what I like. I like seeing that fucking little smiling baby son because I know all that shit's going to work out.

Oh, It seems like everyone got along with Oden. Everyone liked him. He's like, Fuck it. He just made some new friends, and he starts hanging out with them at the club. Hernández, paranoid as ever, believes these men to be the friends of Daniel Deabreu and Safreo Fertado, those dudes he recently killed over a spilled drink at Club Cure, which, by the way, is one block away.

See, I could see him. His brain is porridge. He's filled with drugs and alcohol. He's is legitimately now almost hallucinating. I would say it's at this point where he is saying stuff like this because he doesn't know how to process the feelings of being guilty. I think that he's just doing the very classic thing of seeing the people that you murdered everywhere, and you're haunted by it, and you can't put the two together because your brain's made out of a wagyu, and you can't figure it out anymore. You're literally all that stuff gets mismashed, and you don't understand what's reality and what's not anymore.

But he's also dealing with that extreme ADHD that he has. So he's hyper-focused on this shit. He's hyper-focused on his possible guilt, someone trying to catch him. Maybe the FBI's around. All kinds of shit. Because they are. They should be. They should be, but they're not. No, they're not.

Nobody's there. Nobody's checking. He literally got away with it. Yes.

And he would have, too, if he had to keep I'm fucking up.

If it wasn't for those meddling kids.

And ADHD, it breeds paranoia. It very much breeds paranoia. So it's just paranoia on top of paranoia on top of paranoia.

Also, it's not just weed anymore. It's drugs. It's like hard drugs. It's Molly and fucking BCP and shit. All the party drugs.

They're just doing it all. And they're casually using GHP. They're casually using stuff like that. That's what it's like.

Not to mention whatever the fucking team gives them for his pain. So it's time to leave the club at this point. Oden and Aaron, make up enough to get in the car together. Give me a little kiss. Yeah, along with their barber who they head out for a couple of drinks. Oh, that's nice. They're sitting in the parking lot smoking a blunt, as you do. Hernández fucking spots his babysitter, Jennifer Fortier.

Oh, she's going to tell my mom.

She's sitting there coming out of the club. She's got her hot friend Amanda with her, and he offers them a ride to their car and then basically kidnaps them. He ditches the barber and takes them back to his Franklin apartment that the Patriots rented them to keep them out of trouble. The best part about this apartment being super close to all the trouble is that I could bring the trouble there.

Yeah, they rented him at this- Right next to the bars.

It's going to make him better?

It's not right next to the bars. I'm sure there's bars close by, but it's far away. It's closer to the stadium.

Yeah, but the weird thing is that it's not a nice apartment. It's not a super nice apartment complex. It's a very middle of the road, regular ass apartment complex. One of the documentaries, they to a woman who was his neighbor, and she's like, I don't watch football, but there was a lot of weed being smoked in there.

There was certainly a lot of marijuana.

It was just so much weed. She thought there was a skunk in the building at one point. I wanted to explain her what it was. Jennifer, the babysitter, she's extremely uncomfortable in this situation. Her phone's dead, and it's just not her scene. She don't like fucked up apartment drug dens as much as the rest of us. To each their own, I guess.

I mean, sadly.

At one point, her Hernandez disappears into one of the bedrooms, and he calls her over there to make her sit on the bed with him, and then he kiss him.

Little kiss for you. Get a little kiss.

She rejects his advances because she's his fucking nanny, but he doesn't push the issue, and he just says, I understand.

No hard feelings. Not everybody could be into the, Oh, Hernandez.

Then he just passes the fuck out. Oden's also passed out in a living room, and Jennifer takes her friend's phone and calls a cab, gets the hell out of there. In the morning, Aaron uses Oden's phone to text Shayana.

I fucked up again. I didn't mean, but got drunk and fucked up and Ode took care of me some. How I told him about the other spot, and I just woke up bugging and on my way home.

Some people think Aaron became suspicious of Oden because he knew of his infidelities. But Shayana herself admits she knew and understood that Aaron was unfaithful. Maybe he told Oden about the murders outside Cure or about shooting Bradley in the face down in Florida. But one thing was for sure at this point, he did not trust Oden anymore.

Then you should change your name to Loki. God had missed you. Because he's the most untrustworthy of the Norse mythology.

It's also been theorized that Aaron may have made a pass at Oden as well that night. No one will ever know what happened after these ladies escaped Aaron's trap house. But the next evening, Oden Lloyd would be dead.

My theory as to how this went down is that we talk about the difference between Oden Lloyd and Alexander Bradley. Alexander Bradley, he's a gangster. He's very well-acquainted with violence and living a morally gray lifestyle.

Aaron looks up to him, too. Yeah.

He's probably a little bit intimidated and excited by him in a way.

Very much excited. Aaron Hernandez purposefully surrounded himself with people like that to make himself feel tougher. But Oden Lloyd, by all accounts, like I said, he was a good dude. I think that Aaron Hernandez may have misjudged how Oden Lloyd might respond to Aaron saying, Yeah, I've killed two people, and I shot my other friend in the face. I would imagine Oden Lloyd did not respond very positively to that if that's what happened.

This is my question. Do you pair, you got a new buddy, soon to be brother-in-law, the single most tenuous and suspicious relationship? Yeah. Your brother-in-law and are always going to get in some trouble. The brother-in-law- Wait, I don't get into any trouble with my brother-in-law.

He's a wonderful man.

My brother-in-law is a heart surgeon, so he doesn't do anything with me.

But I'm just saying, brother-in-law are by far the most problematic relationship in any family. I'm the problematic guy. They can be. Yes.

I knew.

Brother-in-law are the hard ones.

They can be, yeah.

I could see Oden, do you, when you're going to talk to your soon-to-be new brother-in-law, and you lead with, I I murdered two guys in an impulsive move because I thought they were casing me. Then also maybe, what if we, You ever see that movie with the cowboys? When do you layer those two together? Is it one then one? It's like, what's the fastest way to move your brother-in-law out of the room? I'm not quite certain.

Well, also, Oden Lloyd, nice guy that he is, is this something that deal with a lot. He's a big, crazy-looking dude.

People confide in you.

People say horrible shit to me all the time thinking I'm also horrible. I'm just like, Hey, I don't appreciate that.

I'm a comedian that has been an offensive comedian for so long, but it is so funny to meet people that when they hear you're a comedian. Then there was a Florida lawyer I once was talking to on behalf of my parents. As soon as he heard I was a comedian, he was going through my socials. He just started with the F words. Really getting crazy. It kept being like, I'm a comedian, not a homicide detective. You have to think about this. Where I just sometimes I'm saying inappropriate things.

I look at the world and make observations.

I don't think Aaron made a pass at Oden. I think that he tried to make him another Alexander Bradley, and Oden was just like, That's not my scene. He probably looked very uncomfortable. He may have even said like, Hey, that's fucked up, man. Now he's looking at you different. Now he's looking at you different because Aaron Hernández is very paranoid. He's thinking, This guy is going to turn me in. Maybe this guy is going to try to kill me before I kill him. Who knows where his fucking mind went?

He says something stupid. Oden Lloyd's like, I don't like this. Then he's like, Fuck you, motherfucker. That's probably the argument, in my opinion.

Oh, yeah. I've been around people like Aaron Hernández in my life, and they turn on a dime, and it's very fucking dangerous. Very scary. You got to get out of there.

Yeah, don't hang out with scary people. No. Please.

Unless, of course, they bring you to fund things or give you stuff.

All right, so it's Father's Day, June 15th, 2013. Aaron's on the phone with his agent, Brian Murphy, trying to figure out what to do with Alexander Bradley's $1. 3 million extortion.

If I was Aaron Hernandez, I'd pay it.

Yes, he just got a shit ton of money.

I would pay that money.

But he's like, he won't do it for some reason. Then Bradley just texted him, Don't understand why if you was mad enough to shoot me, you ain't mad enough to compensate me.

I guess I'm a bitch because when I think about you, I cry.

You make a me cry. Why are you saying something sensitive stuff? You know I'm with you no more.

No, you're not with me, but I still look to the stars and your eyes stare back.

Whatever. Sometimes I think about the way what we could have been and the path we could have taken, but we have that verse from that. And so I love you and good night.

There was a whole series of other sentimental please for money and through text, but as sentimental as they were, there was a lot of words that we shouldn't say on the show. What? So Aaron continued to deny that he had ever even shot him, and he refused to pay him anything. You see, two days earlier, Bradley had actually filed that civil lawsuit against Hernández, and Aaron was doing whatever he could to get out of it quietly and without paying. It seemed to be going well. The agent Murphy talked Bradley's lawyer into voluntarily dropping the lawsuit.

That's because literally, that dude's one of the most powerful sports agents in the world and knows how to scare the fuck out of some random ass lawyer.

Dude, Murphy is a fantastic agent.

That's who you are. Can you imagine? God, I just wish I could have committed a crime just so that I could have called Ken to get him to get us out of it. I can't even imagine how important you must be.

Dude, do this day, Murphy's like, Hernández didn't do it.

Yeah.

Like, to this day, he won't waver at all.

That's an agent.

Even OJ's agent was eventually... He eventually had to say, Fuck, he didn't.

He finally let go of his hurt stuck. He was just like, OJ did it.

Murphy's like, If you put this lawsuit in the news, then we really have no reason to pay you. But if you withdraw it now, we can make a deal. That bought him some time. Sure. He's good at what he does, man. Oh, yeah. Aaron hit up Olden Lloyd to hang out that night. Right after he hung out with him... By the way, all of Aaron... Don't text anyone in a crime. No.

It makes you call.

You got to call talk.

You meet under a bridge.

They have thousands of Aaron Fernanda's text. They were just delivered to them.

That's the dumbest shit, dumbest things I've ever heard.

It was like two days in the trial, just reading his text messages.

It was cold. Damn. Who said that?

He hits Oden Lloyd up to hang out with him that night. Right after he hit him up, he hit up Bo Wallace to get his ass over there because they got to take care of something. It's now after midnight, Oden's waiting for Aaron to come pick him up, and he doesn't show up until 2: 30 AM, and he's got Wallace and Ortiz with him.

See, I would have fallen asleep. I've been like, Sorry, Aaron, we'll play tomorrow. He's fucking excited, man. I know, I get it.

He gave him a suburban.

Well, also now, let's say, Maybe Oden Lloyd also knows he's a murderer.

Yes. Maybe.

Yeah, and he's scared.

Yeah, of course.

I think he absolutely knows that he's a murderer at this point. Yeah.

When Aaron's picking up Oden Lloyd in Dorchester, his sister, Shaquilla, spots him getting into the car, and Oden sees that she sees him, and then he text her.

You see who I'm with?

Aaron has gone full Eddie Nash at this point, all right? He's firing his gun out the window while he's driving. He's shooting at street signs. He's blowing through tolls, scraping the side of the car. It's fucking bananas, all right? How about, I don't know, 20 minutes go by, something like that. Shaquilla finally texts back.

Sorry, my phone was dead. Who was that?

Oden responds.

Nfl, just so you know.

That's why I think that Oden Lloyd knew that he was a murderer.

He knew that he was about to go whacked.

He knew something bad was going to happen. Definitely. All he had to say was NFL.

Nfl. Yeah. That was his last text message of his life. Wow. Oden Lloyd was then brought to an industrial park less than a mile from Hernández's North Attleborough home and smoked his last blunt with Aaron Hernández.

Oh, at least they had one last blunt together.

Oh, my God. His fucking DNA was on the blunt, both of them. It was like he handed them everything. He was such a bad killer.

It's also this because he's acting like he's in a movie.

Yeah.

He's not in reality anymore. Oh, no.

I mean, if he's ever been in reality. Yeah.

Oden Lloyd's body was found by a high school student out for a jog there in that industrial lot on Tuesday, June 18th. He was dead, covered in flies, and shot six times. He had the suburban rental keys under Hernández's name in his pocket.

God, it's like, cops can't even place evidence that well. Oh, my God.

This whole episode is just like, how bad he was at evidence. Yeah, that's amazing. Also, the problem is, by the time they found him, there's a storm rolling in, so the police had to act quick to secure the crime scene before it all gets washed away.

Yeah, they're there to build... They built a whole tent city around it. Yeah.

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So back at the Hernández household, Shayana was comforting her sister Shaneya because she'd come over there to grieve the death of Oden. She cried herself to sleep on the couch, and when she woke up in the morning, Hernández was there and told her, I've been through this dead thing before.

It'll get better with time. Time heals all wounds. You got to understand that. You just got to let things just chill out.

But when Shaneya was passed out, Aaron called the house and told Shayana to get rid of this black box he had in the house and to not let anyone see you. She would later claim she never looked inside the box and did what her husband told her to do, and that she thought it was weed, but everyone is 99% sure that the murder weapon was inside this box. Yes. She somehow could never remember where the dumpster was that she threw it out in.

You know, of course. Yeah. She never know. It's so hard when you're hiding evidence for your spouse, it's so hard to be thinking about it.

Ride or die is the description they use with Shania all the time. Yeah, she stays with Aaron all throughout.

She changed her name to Hernanda after he died.

Jesus. Yeah. It's because, again, she chose him. This is the person that is taking care of her and taking care of the family, and she's decided that she's going to go all way down.

Dude, her IG is so sad. It's just pictures of her daughter with Aaron's silhouette behind them and stuff. It's like, I hate. I went down that rabbit hole and I was like,. Yeah, well, Aaron's been driving another rental car that night, a Nissan Altima, and he went to enterprise to drop it off in the morning. Get rid of the evidence. It was dinged up from a wild night of driving through tolls, but he had bought the insurance, so at least he was in the clear there. Yeah, that's the best part. The clerk, though, remembered that Hernández had offered her a piece of gum. She clocked it as weird because it was blue, cotton candy-flaved, bubble-icious. Why did an adult man have this? I got a playful attitude. He just proves how much he never fucking grew up.

Yeah, he's a kid. He's trapped in his own brain.

Yeah. Also, he's still... He is a kid. He's 24, I think, at this point. Later, when she inspected the car, she found that the same gum was stuck to the carpet on the floor of the car. She tried to get off with a piece of paper she found there. When she was down there, she also found some bullet casings that would match the casings found at the murder scene. Now, these aren't the casings from the murder, but from when he was shooting street signs out the window like a lunatic.

Yeah, don't worry. He left the casings from the murder at the murder scene. Yeah, where they're supposed to be. Where they feel comfortable. Yeah, you got to let them breathe.

Yeah, and he wrote on them, Harry Potter's.

Yeah, Harry Potter. Harry Potter's one, Harry Potter's three, because Harry Potter's I'm too stupid. Harry Potter. I shouldn't write Valdemort. That's a forbidden name. Everybody know. Everybody know. Come look for Valdemort.

I love this rental car. Employed. It's like this detective. It's like, this seems to be the same bubble gun that I was just given by Aaron Hernandez.

I've never paid attention to a single thing before, and I'll never pay attention to a single thing again. But that was one detail I'll always remember.

So at this point, the evidence was getting thicker than Shayana when she was pregnant. Nice. Thank you. And the cops were staked out in Hernandez's household right at the end of his driveway. Aaron's flipping out. He calls his agent, Brian Murphy, and asked for advice. Murphy said, Well, hey, if you're innocent, then go talk to the police. See why they're there. Yeah.

Come on, Aaron. Just go give it a cold shot.

It's a really nice It's the best way of asking if he did it. Yeah.

Well, if you're innocent of the crime, you can just go and talk to the police.

That's what you call gaging. Gaging a response.

He's looking like this. He gave you FaceTime.

Eventually, Aaron got the courage to do just that. Then they asked him if he had rented a Chevy Suburban. He said he had for his friend Oden Lloyd. The question started flowing, and then Aaron's like, Oh, I got to go get my attorney. Then He asked them why they were there, and then the cops told them they were investigating a death. Aaron then slammed his front door in their face with no response. Why did he not even ask who died? The cops thought that was odd. If It was with that, the North Attaborough Police Department thought they had enough evidence for a search warrant. Hernández didn't even get off the couch when they came to the door. While they were searching his house, he eventually went downstairs and shot some pool in his man cave with on his uncle. Before he broke the rack, he turned to Shayana's uncle and said, My endorsements are gone. Puma had run back to the mountains. Pussy cats.

Couldn't handle the heat. Something about multiple murders really makes some of these advertisements shoes are pretty skittish.

Some guys will always be there.

Good old choose a company.

Smith and Wesson would have been a great one for it. Oh, huge.

As far as I know, the only shoe that was definitively linked to a mass murder was Keds, Heaven's Gate. Really? Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, they all wore Keds.

Good for them. It's not comfortable.

They weren't walkers.

All right. It's Wednesday morning. He drives the Gillette Stadium. The place was swarmed with reporters. Helicopters circling the stadium. Aaron was officially a person of interest. Not exactly a good look with Coach Belichick and Robert Kraft, the owner. They question him in the wait room. Hernandez said he was innocent. He was at the club at the time of the murder. He's just waiting for the timeline to prove his innocence. So he's got that. So they're like, Cool. But this would be the last time he ever spoke to Bill Belichick. When he got home, he was served a different summons. Alexander Bradley decided with all of this Oden Lloyd news, it was time to file his lawsuit. And the always respectful TMZ broke the story that another man has filed a lawsuit on Hernandez for shooting him. What? Was happening.

Tmz, probably the most accurate news association on the face of the planet. I do not like them. Don't like them. We've talked about this. I hate them.

I spent the week on TMZ. Yes.

Tmz, though, has the most correct breaking news- They're always first. Of any news organization ever.

Well, the police had a lot of pertinent questions for Hernandez at this point. Why had he ordered a house cleaner special to his house on June 17th? Super dirty. Why had his security system attempted to be destroyed?

It did itself. It was itself. It was a commit suicide.

Why did his lawyer turn in his cell phone in pieces? Because that's how I found it.

It was a Mr. Snuffalupacus. Why are you stepping on my phone?

But he was still a free man. So we went back to Gillette Stadium when the director of security for the Patriot saw him. He came over and was like, Get out of here.

Why don't you just leave?

It's time for you to...

What? Actually, I was just leaving. Oh, I should go.

So now it's Saturday in the cop searches us again, and they find a bunch of guns, ammunition, and bulletproof vests, and then they got the break they needed. The enterprise worker who found the bullets in the rental car saw the news and had not initially reported it.

That's a right there, man.

Yeah, because...

That's a fucking G. He saw in a rental car. He's just like, You know what? I don't want to deal with it.

It was a lady. It was a lady. She said that she had found weirder things returned in rental cars, so she didn't question it.

Then empty bullet cases.

Well, there was a shooting range down the road. Oh, sure. It happened before, early enough.

Wow, that's actually hilarious.

Four bullets. All right, fine.

But luckily, the sanitation had not come to pick up the dumpster yet, and so the cops had all the evidence they needed. Now they had the matching bullet casings to the scene of the crime, attaching Hernández to everything. But still, there was no murder weapon. So the cops started questioning everyone that knew Hernández, including his bad boy crew of TL, Tanya, Wallace, and Ortiz. Ortiz was on probation, and his probation officer was one of the detective's wives. She let them know Ortiz knew Hernández, and it just failed a drug test PCP. So they brought him in, kept him up for questioning, and put him through a polygraph that he failed miserably, and he put Hernández, Bo Wallace- I'm not guilty.

I'm not doing nothing.

Himself and Oden Lloyd together at the crime scene together on the night of the murder.

I want to tell you this is literally the highest score I've ever seen for a lie ever on this.

It was like that.

This man's never told the truth. I actually don't know if he's mentally capable of understanding what truth is.

They got on the cut of deal. Now he's flipped on Hernández. Finally, the police felt they had enough evidence to confidently arrest Hernández. They went to his house and took him to jail, handcuffed with a white undershirt, hastily thrown over his rippling tattooed chisel chest. Sorry, just some horny adjectives to make sure the ladies are still listening.

Oh, don't worry. They're wet.

And the men are erect.

Oh, my God.

During the jury selection, one of the chicks who came in and then immediately just blurted out of her mouth, He's so hot.

Yeah. He's like, You're hot.

So Aaron Hernández was now charged with the first-degree murder of Oden Lloyd, along with six other crimes, and processed into Bristol County Jail, arrained soon after that and denied bail. Hernandez continued to show little to no emotion during this entire process, which just seems to be what he does in intense situations.

No, he just shuts off.

Well, yeah, he doesn't feel anything.

Well, it's like he's just waiting. He's waiting until somebody gets him out of it, and he knows that if he's calm and if he doesn't freak out, he doesn't say the wrong thing.

A lot of times somebody comes handle.

Not a lot of times. Every time up until this point, someone has come along to handle it.

He is pretty good at keeping his mouth shut. That's the one thing he's at in this whole thing. Bo Wallace, he knew the cops were going to be looking for him, too, so he hit up TL and Tanya, get him out of town. They drove him on backroads all the way down to Georgia, where they put him on a bus down the South Florida for Bo to hide out. Two days later, TL Singleton drove off the road in Connecticut with his mistress while high on PCP, OxyCoke, and booze, he died on the scene. The mistress lift.

Yay! And that's another win for SideChicks. He's going to go loose. That's too many drugs to be on in drive. You know what that amount of drugs are? It's called taxi. I feel like that's easy to do.

I think he would have gotten away with it like Ted Kennedy, because I feel like Ted Kennedy was doing those, but not PCP.

Yeah, anything but PCP. It's all of the normal senator drugs.

So a week after that, the Patriots are trying to distance themselves as far as possible from Hernández at this point. They fired him, he's gone, he's not on the team anymore. And then they offer a buyback program for Aaron Hernández' jerseys for the fans. The Patriot Pro Shop traded over 1,200 Hernández' jerseys, and fans could pick any other cheater, I mean, Patriot, that they wanted. He got them.

Man, Bill Belichick laughing us all under the grave, though, man, with this new 24-year-old fucking prison keeper.

Dude, he's going to get fired from his college job. Yeah, dude.

He don't give a fuck anymore. He's getting his dick.

Suck. He is getting couple of extra million for basically nothing. So Puma and Muscle Milk, they already dropped Hernández loose. Bristol Central High School and University of Florida removed any mention of him from campus. But then the biggest hit to Hernández came. Ea Sports removed him from Madden.

That has to just been... He'll be like, My God, I didn't know I could ever experience what is the salty discharge. What is the salty discharge? A cone of interest.

By By the way, USA still has OJ Simpson's Heisman on display in their heritage hall.

You can't take away the stats.

Stick into the gun. You can't take away those stats. It seems to be the thing that Aaron Hernández was most upset about was them taking his awards out of his high school. When you listen to the conversations that he had.

Not really Florida, but his high school.

It was his high school he was so upset about.

Because that's where his dad was. It was like a legend there. Hernández's name is a legend there.

Because that was the base of his whole personal legend. Yeah.

This is also the same town where he's in jail. Yeah. In Bristol County Jail, they kept Hernanda's away from other incarcerated people for his own protection. Solitary, but not solitary type of deal. He was only allowed in the yard for one hour a day, but only by himself. He kept working out. He was like, I'm going back to the NFL. He's working out like a motherfucker. He wanted to join Genpop so bad. He wanted to play basketball, but they're trying to figure out if that was a bad idea Yeah, it was a fucking bad idea, Aaron Hernandez.

This is jail. It's not fun. Because they also said, The thing about Aaron Hernandez was that he had that ability to be normal everywhere. Yeah. They said that when he went into jail- He was very likable. Yeah. Then when he went into jail, he got comfortable really quickly. He was all like, Oh, wow, a fun hanging out with the boys, going on, playing different checkers made out of people poop. People poop at heart, they're making them checkers out, and they're playing with that.

He adapted incredibly fast. He was very good at adapting to anything.

Also, right now, it's assumed that he's joined the Bloods. Everything's going on. They eventually let him join Genpop, and he took to jail surprisingly well, just like you were saying. He even referred to his cell as Cozy. Yeah, it's like, nice.

The way he talked about it, he's like, Yeah, it's pretty nice. Pretty good.

He's playing poker, cribbage. He's reading his Harry Potter's.

Oh, my God. I hope how I'm going to kiss the other guy. I was rooting for Harry Potter.

His favorite snack, two honey buns with peanut butter in the middle.

I don't know why that made me just fucking gag when I read that.

Because that's so sweet and disgusting.

Honey buns are huge. I love honey buns, and I love peanut butter, but fucking Christ.

It's a child's meal.

Yeah.

Or it's a stoner's meal. That's what it is. It's like when I used to get, when I was in college and I get two Egos and I put peanut butter and jelly and cream cheese on them and eat those. I like that. They were incredible for stoners.

You know what is a really good Stoner sandwich, my buddy? Ego waffles, ham and cheese. Ham and cheese between two Ego waffles. You put some syrup on that shit.

That's the shit, motherfucker. No boner check right now. Yeah, dude.

That is the fucking shit, dude.

What do you put on it? Mayonnaise, mustard? Both. Both?

Mayonnaise, mustard, maple Syrup. Fuck, yes. Like a big fat piece of shit, dude. Yeah, damn, dude.

Yeah, man.

Yeah, that sounds dangerous.

That's just real good. You earned that body, bro.

I carved this body.

Herdendez also claims at this time that he was friends with the rats and mice.

Yeah, dude. I know what I said. You guys made me feel like a.

But he didn't like the cockroaches and spiders.

They mean the gossip. They say mean things. They say things they don't mean.

Also, most of the guards are fucking Patriot fans and enamored by him, so they turn a blind eye to his drug use. Even in jail, he's getting special treatment. The Oden Lloyd murder trial began on January 29th, 2015, but it really didn't get going in earnest until mid-February thanks to a series of weather-related delays. A massive snowstorm dumped over 24 inches of the white stuff on Fall River, but that paled in comparison to the mountain of evidence against Hernández. During that time, braided, Gronk, and the rest of the Patriots He won the Super Bowl again.

I can't remember. Aaron Hernandez, did he ever win a Super Bowl? He never won. He never won.

He was in one and they lost. Yes.

In his first season, he was in one. Yes.

Then the next season, they lost and the AFC Championship came to the Baltimore Ravens.

Yeah, but that's incredible that the season that he was supposed to be their $40 million guy, they didn't need him.

They would have won the Super Bowl. Yeah, they didn't even need him.

Yeah, they didn't even need him. No.

God. They were so good. I hate them, but they were so good. A few years prior, as we just said, Hernández had played in the Super Bowl. However, there might have actually been more cameras on him the night of the murder. There was extensive surveillance footage from outside businesses linking him to the scene of the crime. But perhaps the most damning footage was the security cameras at his own house. Hernández didn't delete the footage properly. It showed him rolling up in the last car Oden Lloyd was seen in a few minutes after Oden Lloyd was killed and pulling out what appeared to be a Glock handgun, which, you guessed it, was the exact weapon used in the killing. On February 17th, 2015, prosecutors showed a video of Hernández destroying his cell phone the day after the murder.

Oh, oh, oh. I can see everyone's watching more.

Oh, oh. There he is. That's what he's doing. Ironically, this is the same strategy Tom braided would try not even three weeks later during the Deflategate investigation. It didn't work For either of them, the Patriot way was effective for winning football games, not so much as getting rid of evidence. Interesting. Even though Hernández destroyed his phone, prosecutors still had and presented 2,000 pages of cell phone records.

Jesus fucking Christ.

These files showed that Hernández had asked Carlos Ortiz and Ernest Wallace to come home from Connecticut to Massachusetts the day before the murder, saying that, You can't trust anyone anymore. Well, it turns out that you can trust about half of the people because Ortiz ratted out Hernández in exchange for prosecutors dropping the murder charge against him. He fled down to a lesser accessory charge that got him four and a half to seven years instead of the life sentence he was up against.

You know what you call the guy who believes in loyalty of a group of guys that done a bunch of crimes together, and the one guy he says he'll never like, rattle his guys? What? That's the guy that goes down for the death penalty. It's that everybody else around you is going to immediately jump ship. They are just going to dump your ass, Aaron Hernandez. They don't give a fuck. That's the thing. He thought he had all this power, and then once it's all officially there, once the cops are involved, they're all flip, flip, flip, Adelfia, man.

Well, Wallace, on the other hand, didn't provide information or take a play deal. He took the case to trial and was acquitted of murder but found guilty of similar accessory charges in sentence 4-7 years. These Two men saw Fork in the snitch road, took different paths, and ended up in the same spot. Really makes you think. It does.

Life provides paid answers.

It's worth noting here that while they never found a gun, it's pretty obvious what happened. First off, like I mentioned before, Hernández clearly has a gun in his hands shortly after he enters his house. The defense floated the theory that it could have been something else, like an iPad, but that theory falls apart. When you note the size, shape, and the fact that it's clearly a fucking gun. The prosecution showed the footage of Shayana Jenkins to get her take. She played dumb as well, saying that it looked like a black blob.

That's some black blob. He always had some. You know Aaron with his collection of black blobs?

Yeah, well, you know, blobs. They're usually- Blobs everywhere. They're amorphous, undefined. But in this case, the blob is noteworthy because it was shaped like a fucking Well, the thing about it was that the blob is that it had a trigger, then a handle.

The blob had what you call something like a... It's where the bullet comes out of. A barrel? Yeah. It's a barrel. It seems like that blob is a gun.

I'm a bit of a blob connoisseur myself.

I'm thinking of blobs.

I actually am. In my house, I have no less than seven or eight blobs. I love blobs.

Loves I really love blobs.

All my blobs are either round or square.

Very few are gun-shaped.

Yeah, very few are gun-shaped.

I'm pretty sure I'm a blob to Tootsie. Yeah. She gets to shit.

Oh, no, I mean, no dogs can.

Also, Robert Kraft took the fucking stand. The owner, his owner, spray-tanned and smug, and his testimony would actually end up being pretty damning. He recanted how Hernández told him it couldn't have been him because he was at the club, but the jury had just saw footage of Hernández from his own home on his own security cameras. He was a fuck.

Rapper Kraft, he's so haughty coming in and out of that trial. He refuses to even look at Aaron. I can't even look at you.

I was like, Fuck you, dude. You loved him two weeks ago.

Yeah, you were fine. He knew about all the shit. He knew about all the fucking horrible things. Even if he didn't know the specifics, he knew that Aaron Ennis was doing bad shit, and he kept going anyway.

He was too important to the NFL, Marcus.

If he would have got off, even though they knew he did it, he would have hired him back, no problem. That was the whole thing with the Patriors. They love trouble players. After two months and 132 witnesses, the prosecution rested. The defense didn't take as long. Their case lasted one day with a grand total of three witnesses, and their entire argument was basically, Well, that's just your opinion, man. The dude would have been proud. For the first time since the trial started, they acknowledged that Hernández was present for the murder. It was viewed as a shocking pivot and strategy. But after two months of footage of him driving to and from the crime scene in a rental car full of shell casings, they really didn't have a choice. This is my favorite. They called a PCP expert to discuss the effects of the drug after positing a theory that Ortiz and Wallace committed the murder while high, and that Hernández was just an innocent man at the wrong place at the wrong time who panicked.

Because you got to understand, man, with PCP, God, I love it. I'm a goddamn expert. The key here is, man, to understand everything's technicolor. I'm black and white, though. All right? Two sides. One's right, evil. One side's not so evil. Fuck you. I'm the expert on PCP. I'll bring the fucking violence. Thank you so much, Dr. Winston.

During the cross-examination, the PCP expert asked why the footage of Ortiz and Wallace a few minutes after the murder showed them acting very normal and not like PCP fiends.

That's the most PCP shit in the world, dude.

I act normal all fucking day, son. The lawyer's response was basically the shrug emoji in real life. Not exactly a compelling response. What can you say?

I don't know. Say you're on PCP. But I did once date a girl who Before we had dated, she's like, Oh, yeah, I did PCP for three, four years.

People treat sometimes PCP like it's a casual thing. Yeah, I know. It was- Like crack. It was- It was crazy how casually she treated it.

It never had any effect on me. It did.

Oh, yeah, it did.

Angel dust is too cute a name. Yeah, it really is. It really is. You just think, Oh, I could do that. It's for God.

No, and you found a lot of that God shit super intense, bro.

The defense just tried to plant the reasonable doubt seed and hoped it would grow. They argue that Hernández was targeted by cops because of his celebrity, and the evidence against him was largely circumstantial.

You know how cops are so all about arresting celebrities and locking them up? You know them? They're always driven to do that.

Especially all these Patriot fan cops that were the ones doing the arrest. It probably broke their fucking hearts. Oh, yeah.

They were probably extremely conflicted.

When they showed up with the arrest warrant, one of the cops was like, Oh, man, I got to sign a jersey of his. Then another cop had to tell that cop, Hey, listen, you have to be prepared to kill this man right now. Yeah. Get your fucking act together. That's what they were dealing with, going in for this arrest.

I guarantee you, they all went home that night and they cried into their wife's bosom because they were so fucking heartbroken.

Honestly, it was probably- They thought they ruined the next season.

They were probably crying into the lap of their best guy friend. Could be.

Also a possibility. Not going to roll it out.

Oh, man. The whole thing was basically a poor man's version of the OJ defense, but they didn't have anything nearly as effective as, If the glove You don't fit, you must have quit. They could have at least tried, There ain't nothing suspicious about bubble-icious, but nothing.

Because then he'd been like, Ha ha, you're not. Bubble-icious, super-hannibal.

At least with OJ, they had Mark Furman being a total racist shithead.

That really was the main thrust of the defense was showing that they're trying to paint the police as corrupt, and they did.

Yeah, and Hernández's problem was that the North Adiburro Police Department learned from the mistakes of the LAPD all those years ago and actually did their jobs correctly.

Oh, yeah. They did it against their will as well.

I will say for a smallish police force, they did a good job because a lot of times these small police forces can fuck these cases up bad.

Oh, yeah. They wrapped this up Pretty hard core, but also it's really helpful when your criminal is a fucking mentally broken idiot that can't fucking handle his shit, doesn't know how to cover anything up. I think that also really helps.

A child could have solved this case. Yes.

But at least they did it. Yes. Because they definitely could have not done it. Yes.

Well, the jury deliberated for six days, which is usually an indicator that there's doubt with some jury members, and they can't agree. In this case, however, they might have spent six full days going, Holy shit, could you believe how bad Aaron Hernández is at murder? And they were just roasting him back there.

Oh, yeah. They were probably just weren't. We were like, Man, he should get back to being a tight end. It seemed like he was better at that.

Aaron Hernández is bad at murder.

How bad is he? He was immediately guilty.

Whatever the case, they returned a guilty verdict on April 15th, and Hernández was sentenced to life in prison without parole.

Finally.

Hernández, now full-on living that prison life, was starting to get in trouble behind bars. He randomly punches another incarcerated person in the face while they're cuffed. But the guy who he punched doesn't press charges.

No, because in prison, you can't.

Well, he said he was a Patriots fan. It didn't matter, though, because Hernández was given two weeks of solitary anyway. Another time, guards were searching his cell, and Hernández was hiding a piece of paper that said MOB on it. They asked him what that meant.

He said, Money over bitches.

But in prison, MOB also stands for member of bloods. The guard said, Hand it over. Hernández upset, said, What if I don't?

What the fuck are you going to do about?

The officer said they would give him a disciplinary report.

All a piece of paper, huh? I don't care about it. I don't give a fuck about no disciplinary report. I'll eat the motherfucker.

He did receive the disciplinary report, and true to his word, he did eat it.

I'll tell you what, honestly, in all honesty, I liked it. It tastes good. To be honest, thank you. This is some of the nicest stuff I've had.

So This is his membership card to the bloods?

It's so fucking stupid, Marcus. God damn. Guys in prison are bored.

Yeah, they are.

They're bored, and they got a lot of rules.

Guys within, here's your membership card.

Here's your blood. You can say you're not going to sign it. If you don't count unless you sign it.

Make sure to put that in your wallet because you're not going to be able to get into the Sunday mixer without.

Enjoy being a blood friend.

Now, I know we are called the Bloods, but you don't actually have to sign in blood. That's just the thing that people think.

A lot of us think it's gross. So big ups, big Gs to the west side. Have fun.

Don't forget to have fun. That's the thing. A lot of people, when they get to a gang, they forget to have fun, but not the Bloods. We don't forget to have fun here. We're just having fun here.

We do things a little different here. Have you ever been a part of the bloods before? We do things a little bit different here, where we are a family-style gang, and we serve family-style violence for everyone.

I, for one, like the bloods.

Good work, Getty. Unfortunately, I'm a crip. See, you see, see, see, you knew it?

He also got an illegal neck tattoo that said, Lifetime loyalty above a star, which is also usually associated with the Bloods.

You just got in the Bloods.

Yeah. Also, each pay phone in prison was run by a different gang. He exclusively used the Bloods' phone, so it's safe to say he was affiliated with them. Maybe not before jail, but in jail for sure.

How do you think that draft was?

Did you get him on the prison game? You think you got a better spot in the draft? It wasn't fourth round.

I don't want to be Muslim.

That's a big book. I don't know if I could read all about that. No pork?

Well, I mean, but the thing is, he's finally living his fantasy. Oh, yes. This fantasy that he's had for years and years.

He's the gangster he's always wanted to be.

Yeah, he's finally living this gangster lifestyle and hanging out with all these guys, and he's just as tough as he always wanted to be.

Dude, they loved him, too. Usually, when famous guys go to jail, they just get the shit kicked out of them. The fellow prisoners actually like Aaron Hernández.

It was him and same thing with that, Bernie Madoff had an amazing time in prison. Really? Is he still alive? No.

Good. Yeah, he died a few years ago. But yeah, he ended What did they call him? The Professor?

Yeah, he was like the... He did all the guy's taxes on the inside. He did all the... He became a fucking like a hole.

Can't imagine going to prison and still having to do taxes.

You still got to be an accountant.

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So on disciplinary status, he still figured out how he can get a care package from the commissary filled with cakes, breakfast bars, and two dozen honey bun. When they came to take it away from him, he looked at the cards and said, I'm a smart dude.

I knew you were coming for the stuff, so I ate all of it.

I'm a smart dude.

I'm a smart dude.

That's the thing about me.

I think five steps ahead. So I ate them honey buns, thinking I got them, and I have big old dukey, you bet your mouth.

It just He's got to be sitting there like, Oh, my Godness.

What is the point of having so many of them?

Well, he actually had four honey bun left. He kept the wrappers of the other one so the guards knew he didn't give them away. When the guards took the last four honey bun, and when the guards took last four honey buns, he waled. Give them back.

I'm so hungry.

He just ate 20 honey buns.

I know. I had four more. I had four more to get. You know when you have a certain amount of and you walk through a certain amount of them, but then you just understand that I got four more, so I'm okay. I'm going to be okay. But then there's something taken in, and you're like, I can't expect to eat all these.

Yeah, I understand.

So you did rape? You did a child rape? Cool. You're crazy, man. You're crazy. You're crazy.

You're so crazy.

Hernández also threatened to kill a guard in his family, but I'm sure that was all in good fun.

Yeah, you know how that is, but I'm just kidding you, man. That's funny.

He got into a two-in-one fight as being part of the two beating up the one. He racked up 12 offenses, three of which were fist fights, and he got real into K2. K2, in case you don't know is a synthetic marijuana that gives you a sense of euphoria when smoked. Unfortunately, it can also cause paranoia, hallucinations, and psychotic episodes. I know.

They had a lot of problems with those.

So now he's smoking something that's Far worse than weed. Yeah.

And in jail.

Well, because the reason he was smoking K2 is because it's basically odorless and it doesn't show up on drug test. So he's getting fucking laced on it. It's reported that Hernández fit into prison just a little too well. Other than the bloods, he was starting to make friends. He had to. This was his new normal.

Yeah, he just took to it.

Yeah, he's a creature of routine and habit from his football years. He can live in any situation. He's used to three a day practices, sleeping on the floor. It's not that big of a difference in a weird way. He was able to compartmentalize being locked up really well. There were 120 dudes on his cell block. A hundred of them were lifers. Plenty of time to get to know these guys. One guy he buddied up with was someone not there for life, Kyle Kennedy. Kennedy had an interesting story himself. He held up a Cumberland Farms gas station with a butcher knife and got $189. But when they put him in jail, they forgot to lock his cell, and he just walked out.

He claimed, Nobody told me I couldn't leave. I guess I'm just going to go there.

Hernández like the cut of his jib. Yeah, hell, yeah. He got the guards to make him his bunkmates. We'll get back to this guy in a little bit. But first, let's talk about Tanya Singleton. Remember her? She was in the middle of the worst year of her life. Her husband, TL, died in that car crash. She got breast cancer diagnosis and got locked up for contempt because she refused to testify in Aaron's trial. They tried to get her to roll over on Aaron, but she was dying of cancer and told them to go fuck.

Tanya was the woman that Aaron Hernández lived with after his father died. Yes. That basically- His cousin, his mom married her ex-husband.

She took care of him. He looked at her as his mom more than his mom, Terry.

She was another extraordinarily harmful presence in his life that would just tell him, You're Everything you're doing is okay. You're fine. You're a beautiful baby, and you've never done anything wrong. Yes.

He probably just sat with his head in her lap, and she ran her fingers through his bald head and fucking put him to sleep and stuff like that. I'm sure she was very comforting to him while she was also teaching him the fucking worst shit in the world. The thing is, a new piece of key evidence comes out when executing a search warrant at Tanya's house. No, I'm not talking about the picture she had hanging up of Aaron Hernández holding a '45 Glock just like the murder weapon, although I should be.

That's circumstantial.

In her garage, the cops found a Silver Forerunner. That's right. Jack Fox's Silver Forerunner, the endorsement car. Remember, they stashed that shit in Tanya's garage? They ran the license plate and wouldn't you know it, it's the Silver Four runner they'd been looking for from the Abreu and Fertado Unsolved murders.

They had so much time to get rid of this car. Yes, So much fucking time to get rid of this car. At any point.

Just get rid of it. Throw it in the river.

Yeah, it's anything. It's years later. Yeah. Why is it still... That's just how fucking lazy and stupid they are.

Not just the car, Marcus. They also found Hernández's clothes from that night that he was wearing. The only reason they knew it was the clothes he was wearing because they had him on the club surveillance video, and they found 38 caliber shells. Also, the police had just stumbled onto the actual murder weapon as well. So this time they actually have the gun.

Also, I put Aaron on a lot of my clothes, so I know they're mine.

Well, remember, these are the clothes he borrowed from Alexander Bradley. Oh, yes. It was found, the murder weapon, the 38 Special, it was found in a woman's car. Her name was Jaline Díaz-Ramos. She was in an accident. After an accident, they always searched the car, just protocol. Jaline had a pretty long wrap sheet herself, and she said the gun had belonged to a football player named Chicago. Chicago's real name was John Alcorn. John Alcorn was TL Singleton's cousin.

Yes. Tl Singleton was the man who was married to Aaron Hernandez's cousin, Tanya. And so they just gave the gun to some other guy.

He literally just gave it to his cousin, and he threw it in his girlfriend's trunk.

Yeah, they just left it there. Fuck it.

Christ.

They're so bad at it.

Well, it's not... Do you think that maybe he kept it as some memento? Do you think that when he went over to Tanya's house, maybe he went in the garage and relived the moment?

No, dude, this is Aaron Hernández's gun, man.

I'm surprised Hernández didn't autograph it.

I do think that there It's a little bit of a deeply ignorant sentiment of this could all just go away. Then if I just take this and hide it. Lock the door. Pretend it doesn't exist. It'll all go away. No one's going to come looking for Now the double murder trial is going to begin.

March first, 2017. This time, Aaron Hernández got a fancy new lawyer. His name was Jose Baez. Bias. Yeah. Casey Anthony's lawyer. Oh, yeah.

That fucking piece of shit.

Well acquainted with Jose Bias. Oh, yeah.

Aaron Hernández probably the whole time was like, What's Casey Anthony's boobs like? Hold on.

He got her off?

Yeah.

Okay. This actually, Jose Baez, should have hired him for the first trial.

Definitely should have hired him for the first trial. This trial would go much better for Hernández, whereas the first trial had a mountain of evidence against the former tight-end. This one didn't really have much definitive to tie him to the case. All the security camera footage that showed Hernández at the club showed him doing things like standing there, drinking, walking, all of which at the time were legal in Massachusetts. Disgusting.

Not since 2024.

The prosecution rested their case entirely on the shoulders of Alexander Bradley. Bradley is not the most credible witness, not only because he's an admitted drug dealer, but also because he had just gotten arrested when he got into a gunfight at a nightclub and got shot three more times.

I got to say, honestly, you all, I am sick of getting shot. I have had it up to my one eye last. Because that's a That's why he's a bad witness, too. Yes.

One eye. Yeah, one eye. He also wasn't a good shot because after he got shot, he went and grabbed his gun and then fired it into the club 12 times. Luckily, nobody was killed.

I need a scope on my face. I don't got that I don't got any of that depth perception anymore.

They gave Bradley five years, and he rolled over on Hernández to get his charges reduced. Oh, yeah. Bradley took the stand sporting a fancy new fake eye, courtesy of the time Hernández shot him in the face. They said.

An incident that-Fake eyes are actually really nice. They are. They can be.

Remember Last Action Hero, the bad guy with the fake eye? That was the best one. It was really fucking cool. I love that goddamn movie. Bradley took the stand sporting a fancy new fake eye, courtesy of the time Hernández shot him in the face. An incident that feels intense enough to give the jury pause when considering Bradley's motivations for testifying against Hernández in court. He was a regular Shammy Davis Jr.

Funny. Yeah. Funny. Sure, kitchen cats. That's my Sammy Davis. Sure, how are you, kitchen kitties? How are you?

How are you? How are you?

If he just starts tap dancing in the courtroom.

I know that man. He's black.

I mean, whether this is true or not, I'm pretty positive it is, but the motive was fucking terrible. Are there people out there that would kill two men in cold blood over a spilled drink? Yeah, you call them morons. Yeah. I'm one of them. Test me out. Find out what's up. But that's not exactly a strong motive to most reasonable people, and certainly enough to create reasonable doubt. The more plausible motive was one floated by Hernández's defense team, that Bradley had pulled the trigger, killing a Breu over a drug deal gone wrong. Violent drug dealer gets violent over drugs. Makes a lot more sense than man goes in a homicidal rage over a spilled drink and hatred of Cape for Needed.

Well, it's one of those. Where did It seems like a common Boston beginning of a fight is stepping on a shoe or spilling a drink.

Oh, absolutely. Baez would say that Alexander Bradley is a three-legged pony, and then he would start to pretend to ride a horse around the courtroom. You can't trust this man. You can't ride him home, he would say. That's all really happened.

Well, it sounds like what Baez did with this case is a lot of the same tactics that he used to get Casey Anthony off is that what Baez did with Casey Anthony is he was able to make the jury think that they were smarter than everybody else. Don't let them tell you what common sense is. I'm going to tell you what common sense is. You know what common sense is. But you know what common sense is. Does this really make sense? Just think about it for a second. Does this really make sense? He really had a way of... Because the people in the Casey Anthony trial, they were like, the jurors, some of them were like, Yeah, I definitely think she did it, but that Jose Baez.

I love that lawyer.

He's like, he just made a better argument. It's like, that's not the fucking- That's not what we're doing here. That's not what we're here for. Jose Baez, he confuses people. He confuses jurors. He's very good at confusing jurors.

I once had this shady ass lawyer tell me that law is only what the best lawyer can pretend it is.

Of course. Then you have good law, and then it's also what judges uphold and then decide.

So April sixth, closing statements were made. The jury deliberated for six days, yet again. On April 14th, they came back with the results. Shayana was the only one there for Aaron this time. Terry and DJ had enough of the public eye. The results were much more favorable for Aaron Hernandez this time. He was acquitted of all counts related to the murders and was only found guilty for unlawful possession of a firearms, which got him an additional 4-5 years on top of his existing life sentence. For the first time ever, he showed a motion and he broke down in tears and relief in front of the whole courtroom.

My eyes are crying. My eyes are crying.

And not only that, he already had Baez working on his appeal for the Oden Lloyd murder. Of course. Hernández was noticeably happier in jail. He had something to be excited about, the first win in a long time. If he could get this appeal and win, he could become an NFL star again. But on April 17th, investigative journalist, Michelle McFee appeared on the Boston Sports show, The Kirk and Callahan Show. Let's listen to the clip.

Michelle knows the real motive for the murder of Oden Lloyd.

Let's just say that Oden Lloyd caught Aaron Hernandez in a compromising This year. Let's just say that Aaron Hernandez was a former tight end before he was kicked off.

Tied off the field as well? Yes.

Then he became a wide receiver.

Henry, is that really who you want to be in? You want to be in the league with those guys?

He didn't. You notice?

You did. You started this entire series with that exact same joke.

Someone had to be the problematic male. At that point, it fell to me.

I think it still is you.

It will be. It continued to be me, but you notice I haven't said it since. That's right. I just saved it for the opening because controversy drives the internet. It does.

Go ahead, say it again. Ass.

No, at this point, you know what's funny is that I was expecting more to point towards it, but we haven't really seen any of that.

I'm going to get into it a little more in a second.

I actually thought that that was going to be a bigger deal in this story, to be frank. I thought it was, too.

As I researched everything, it seemed like it was part of his life.

Maybe. But- Or is he by or is he just on the down low? Is it just one of those things that he just does it to do because he doesn't understand?

Let's get into it a little bit more because I have my own theories about it.

Yeah. But anyway, around 1: 00 AM, April 19th, Aaron Hernández hung himself with a bedsheet over his window, cut in his cell. He jammed his cell door shut with cardboard, opened his Bible to John 3: 16, wrote John 3: 16 on his forehead with red ink.

Just those words.

Just those words.

Not the full verse.

Then he used his own blood to write John 3: 16 on his cell wall and drew a crude pyramid with the word Illuminati written under it. I don't know what that's supposed to mean.

I'm not trying to laugh at this. I really am I'm not going to do what I'd like to do during this moment. Good luck.

Hernández left several notes next to his Bible, stripped naked, made stigmata marks on his hands and feet, covered the floor of his cell with shampoo, slid the sheet rope through the window slat that was only 5 feet off the ground, so he had to do the actual strangulation himself. It was no easy task to complete, but just like everyone always said about him, once he set his mind to something, he did it.

When he did it the hardest way, possible. Again, he's a dead man, but he's also a murderer. I will say that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. That's the dumbest way to commit suicide that I've ever fucking heard.

What's with the shampoo? Did he want the cops to slip?

Slip to come at him. So he would slip.

You think it's because he would slip? I think it's because the cops would slip to come in looking at his body. I think that he wrote Illuminati on the wall because he's mentally 14 years old. I think he did that as a way to be like, It's I was murdered. I were whacked. I were whacked by the Illuminati.

I think he did it because that's the signal on the back of the dollar bill and says, In God, we trust. I think that's why he did it. I don't think he understood what Illuminati was.

I'm going to say that all that is as stupid as anything else.

Well, unfortunately, it's about to get slightly dumber. Why did he do it? Was it the outing of his supposed sexuality? Was he depressed about possibly spending the rest of his life in prison? Was he just having an intense K2 CTE episode? Or was it another thing called abatement? In Massachusetts, at the time, there was a legal procedure called abatement. It basically means that if a defendant died while the repeal of a conviction was pending, the conviction would be wiped out. Now cleared of the double murder and in the middle of an appeal in the Oden Lloyd case, Hernandez might have factored this into his decision to commit suicide. His note included a passage written directly to his fiancé that ends ends with the phrase, You're Rich, in all caps and underlined. Well, let me correct that. It ends with a quote from a Savage Garden song, As all good suicide, Don't you? The song is called, I knew I loved you. The quote was, Tell my story fully, but never think anything else besides I love you. Well, Aaron, I'm working on it.

Not even truly madly deeply? No. That's the Savage Garden song.

I could see someone telling him about abatement and him maybe in a impulse-driven... Because I weirdly think- You think it's all connected? I think it's all connected. I think that he didn't Obviously, I don't know. Would it even affect him, somebody saying something about him being gay? Because actually, part of my mind, I think he'd think like- In jail? Yeah, but in jail, they do a lot of stuff.

Yeah, in the dark.

Yeah, they do it. But they have like... It's not all just like men have relationships in jail. They work at it.

They work at it. But not him.

Yeah, and not outside of jail, because that's the whole thing is that Aaron Hernandez, his relationships were outside of jail. If you're in jail, that's a different thing altogether. But if you continue that outside of jail, then punk.

Yeah. No, I know. But he's not getting out of jail.

Not anymore. No. Six days after Hernández's death, his attorneys filed a legal motion to vacate the Lloyd conviction. If successful, this would have tons of ramifications, most notably that Lloyd's family couldn't pursue a civil claim and that Hernández's estate might be entitled to the $40 million contract the Patriots had voided because of the whole murder kerfuffle.

Yeah, that was the thing. The murder stuff really put a damper on a lot of stuff.

In May of 2017, a judge granted the motion and erased the conviction, clearing the way for Hernández's estate to pursue the NFL contract money. The following year, however, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court reversed the ruling and reinstated the conviction, saying the concept of abatement was outdated. They ruled that abatements would no longer apply moving forward.

Yeah, because it's really stupid to create this thing of As long as you kill yourself before you're fucking guilty, it doesn't count. It's like, that makes no sense.

It was a law from the 1800s. There was a reason for it back then that no longer applied.

Yeah, it's one of those things that you forget to change. Yeah. After all the dust had settled on the violent crime spree of Aaron Hernández, we finally had a happy ending. The Patriots had made $40 million. All is well that ends well.

Because they needed it. Yes. They really needed that extra 40 mil.

After his death, the tabloids had a field day with the outing of Aaron Hernández. I mean, it's a hell of a juicy story. Shit, I decided to tell a version of it to you folks right now. Kyle Kennedy, his former cellmate, told Aaron Hernández jail lover stories to anyone who would listen. His high school teammate, Dennis Sansusi, told of his escapades in the Netflix doc, and Ryan Murphy show told the tale of his forbidden love with an old trainer from the NFL Combine prep.

Now, does that come from anything, or is that just Ryan Murphy jerking off?

It's just Ryan Murphy jerking off.

I think it is because that's the only place I saw it was in Ryan Murphy's show.

Same. That's the only other- I read books, I read articles. All I saw was these snippets of people talking about it. And weirdly, the jail lover stuff is actually... I actually even put that into a whole thing of he got so comfortable in jail. And then that stuff is so really in jail. It's pretty run of the mill. Guys work stuff out all the time.

Yeah, but there is also Dennis, the high school buddy. That's something else. Everybody sucks dick.

Everybody's sucking dick. Having a good time. Come on, it's high school. Whether any of it's true is neither here nor there at this point. Was he gay? Was he bisexual? Truth is, we'll never really know for sure because the only person that could tell us, Aaron, is dead.

I'm more I'm not going to try sexual. Try anything once.

So clever, Aaron. Did you come up with that yourself?

Yeah. I thought about it. I was like, Well, try. Rob's a boy. He tried me soon, though. That's me. I did stuff.

I think it's possible he was gay. Of course I do. Do I think it matters? No. Not as much as his stage three CTE, drug use and abuse of upbringing. That's for goddamn sure.

Me thinks the CTE and the PCP were a little bit more I don't know, the way he's finger. The DOA. Then him being gay. I think that being gay might have been the only nice thing about him.

Yeah. I mean, really, it was the lifelong culture of permissiveness. Him constantly getting away with everything.

He's smashing his face in other people's faces for the fun and profit.

I mean, it seems to be. To me, I would probably put Aaron Hernández more in the bisexual realm. But I do think that anytime he had feelings for a man, it freaked him the fuck out. Oh, sure. I think he didn't like it. But not.

I love you.

He's definitely trying to hook up with the babysitter. There's plenty of times he cheated on his wife a bunch with women. He got caught.

The guys do that all the time to show other people they're straight.

Like who? His wife?

Yeah, literally. To show his wife he's straight, he's cheating on her with women. I mean, not as...

They weren't married yet.

Think about how gay you got to be to be married and gay. That's the gayest shit in the world.

Yeah. Well, I think that he was- He's already gay enough to be married to a woman.

Yeah.

But I think it's most likely that he was bisexual, but I really don't think that him being closeted was what led to any of this. No. I don't think it had any bearing. I'm sure it- Maybe the suicide. It probably increased the pressure, and it may have definitely had something to do with the suicide, but I don't think it had anything to do with his crimes.

Especially Oden Lloyd.

Yeah, especially Odom Lloyd.

Yeah, especially Odom Lloyd.

Before we go, though, we need to talk about one of the most bizarre subplots of the Aaron Hernandez story that has to be the additional murders committed by members of his high school football team.

This is insane.

Bristol, Connecticut has a population just north of 60,000 people. Big for a town, small for a city. It's known primarily as the Home of ESPN, admittedly a strange location for media conglomerate owned by Disney. You got to stretch a bit for Bristol's second claim to Fame. They're known as Mom City because they were once the leader in chrysanthium production.

Chrysanthumum.

Chrysanthum. I think we both just say it differently.

Chrisanthumum. No, that is a flower.

It's Chrisanthumum. It's a flower called a chrysanthumum.

Chrisanthumumum.

Chrisanthumumum.

Well, they produce it.

And although their glory Days and the Anthemum game. Got it. Made it be behind them, they still host an annual Bristol Mom Festival at the end of September. Great. By the time you hear this, tickets might already be sold out. Oh, shit. But it's never too late to start planning for the 2026 Festival season. Oh, no.

I better start getting the tickets to the Mom Festival. Nothing I love better than...

Do you know where you got the tickets? Mom's the word. Mom's the word, Monty Stowe. Yes. Anyway, other than those two things, I guess they're most known for their high school football players going on to kill people. Yes. Bristol Central High School is one of three high schools in the city. Its motto is...

Be creative, be conscientious, be collaborative, be committed.

Although the last one should It'll probably be- Be committing.

Murders. Because that's what three players from the 2006 Rams roster did.

Alex Ring, married his... By the way, all three of these Guys in the team photo are standing directly next to each other.

They're all like buddies, right?

Yeah. Aaron Hernandez, Alex Ring, and this other guy, nick Brutcher. Yeah, all standing. It's a haunting photo.

Alex Ring married his high school's sweetheart, and they had three kids. After school, he joined the National Guard. Seemed like a pretty great life. But in 2014, things clearly weren't going well for the Ring family. On May 29th, Alex purchased a 12 gage shotgun from Dick's Sporting Goods. The next day, his wife Kyla filed for divorce. Remember, there's no waiting period when purchasing a shotgun or rifle, just handguns.

Yeah, because to be honest, you can't kill anybody with a shotgun or a rifle. You're right.

Not humans. No. Just deer.

Just deer and big pigs.

Yeah, and birds.

The day The day after that, Kyla called the Bristol police about a domestic disturbance and told officers she didn't feel safe. Later that night, a Connecticut National Guard mental health official contacted local police twice to express concern about Alex missing therapy and his, increasing erratic behavior. On June fourth, police responded to a call and found both Alex and Kyla dead from gunshot wounds to the head. Alex had committed a murder suicide, leaving his three young children behind. In 2022, At least he didn't kill the kids. Yeah, you're right, Henry. You know what? Honestly, I thought the same thing. In 2022, nick Brutcher became the latest Bristol Central football player to go off the deep end. In October that year, perhaps feeling withdrawals from dizzying highs of the chrysanthium Festival.

It's a goddamn chrysanthum. I don't give a shit about the flower. I just want to make fun of it.

Bercher committed a particularly heinous crime. Around 10: 00 PM that night, nick made a 911 call and told the dispatcher that he'd gotten into an argument with his brother Nathan. He said Nathan was being aggressive and He needed assistance. The story was completely fabricated. However, it was a ruse to get the police to his residence where he was hiding in the bushes and waiting to ambush the officers.

I think all these guys should be focusing on their chrysanthum parade float. I don't know what's going on here. I really think there's a lot of things they could be working on.

Brutcher fired almost 100 total shots, split between an AR-15 and a handgun. In the process, he killed two police officers and wounded a third. He also wounded his brother Nathan, who happened to be in the doorway when the police arrived. The only surviving officer, Alex Zercrado, was able to limp back to his car despite being shot in the leg. He took cover behind the vehicle before emerging to kill nick with a single shot. At night?

Yes.

He was good at it. An investigation would later produce a step-by-step timeline of events showing that it started as a night out for Nathan and nick, but after a bar fight, a ticket for a suspended license, and a truck being towed, they ended up back home where nick carried out his plan. Perhaps the least surprising detail of the horrific night is that it all started at a stand-up comedy open mic. As someone who's done a lot of these bar mics in his life, let me say this is somehow the best case scenario.

God, an Open Mic bar night in Bristol, Connecticut.

Oh, God. God, that's got to be... I'm sorry, Bristol, but I don't think you're funny.

No, sorry, guys.

You guys ever notice this ESPN thing is everywhere? It's everywhere. It's like ESPN, what does it stand for?

Chrysantheums.

Chrysantheums.

The only thing Broocher has in common with Hernández, other than football and the murders, which frankly is enough, is the fact that he also appeared to be closeted gay man. Cell phone records show that before his death, he downloaded and deleted Grinder several times, perhaps indicating an internal struggle over the truth he was scared to share. There's an HBO Max documentary that details these cases, interviews old teammates, and attempts to find some connective tissue. They talk about CTE, locker room culture, toxic masculinity, and sure, all of those things can be contributing factors in any or all of these cases. Of course. But it's worth noting that those things existed in pretty much every high school football program in the country back in the early 2000s. If the formula is high pressure high school football plus head injuries plus not being allowed to be gay equals murder, then the entire populations of Texas and Florida would have been wiped out years ago. In reality, this is probably just a sad coincidence and a fascinating footnote to the Aaron Hernandez story.

It's not a good one, though. It's just fascinating, the fact that they were all maybe just being a bully shitheads.

I think maybe just something about Bristol, Connecticut. Maybe.

We haven't heard it about it since.

When I watched the footage of Aaron Hernandez playing football in high school, the way he uses his head all the time, that shit's taught. That is absolutely That is a taught move. I think a lot of the players at Bristol were taught to use their heads. I think it may have given quite a few of them CTE. It made them violent.

Not just that. You started at eight. Yeah. And Pop Warner.

In Bristol, Connecticut, it's an outlier because Connecticut's not known for its football. Not usually. I think they might go a little harder than other places go. I Yeah. I don't really know what it is because also Aaron's brother DJ also had a fucked up prolog or epilog.

Yeah. No, he got mad about everything that happened with Aaron Hernández and the way ESPN covered it. So he threw a brick at the ESPN office saying, you're responsible for all this shit.

He kept acting like a high school kid.

But then he also got in trouble scoping out Yukon for a possible spree shooting, and he's currently on house arrest.

Hey, No, at least we know where he is. Just don't go near that house. No.

I don't know what it is. Maybe it is early 2000s football culture in this place because a DJ was just a couple of years older than Aaron, what, like two years older? There's something about it, something about this class.

It's not like his dad was fucking saying either.

No, he wasn't. It's like a Stephen King story where the whole football team gets cursed.

It's like this movie, Him, actually. Sounds very interesting. None of this is old. It was almost a very coincidence.

It's all a full coincidence. After all this, I'm really trying to figure out where I am personally with football. Truth is, I haven't watched the Miami Dolphins play in two years. Not only because they're awful, I'm used to that. I'm used to them being bad at football. But unpacking what football means to me in therapy these last couple of years, I've frankly fallen out of love. Besides the personal trauma it's caused me through childhood abuse of Pop Warner football from being so big as an eight-year-old that I had to play with 12-year-olds. I was the only white kid on the team. And four years younger than everyone else, my teammates would regularly beat the shit out of me until I earned their respect by fist-fighting back. And then they gave me a trophy for Most Improved. I don't blame them, to be honest with you. I was the first white kid they were allowed to beat up.

Beat me up. Also, you were getting used to being beat up.

Yes. That was your job. Absolutely. My dad fucking loved it, to be honest with you. Of course he did.

I love it just hearing about it.

I'm haunted by it. I I just love to hear about it.

I love hearing boys getting all in up on each other, man.

I'm haunted by such traumas, like having to take laxatives and shit myself or running in a trash bag to make wait, and then my father forcing me to walk home because I was covered in shit. I remember once an older kid reached his hand into my face mask and clawed my eyes. After I was cleared to go back in the game, I was filled with rage. I slam my helmet into his knee for revenge, sending him to the hospital in the middle of the game. Not only was I not reprimanded for that game, I was also given the game ball. The incident that made me never want to play again was sophomore year in high school. I remember two of my teammates got into a fight and one of them took his helmet off and started swinging it as a weapon. Coach had a circle around them to let them fight. Even at 15, I knew how dangerous this was and took it upon myself to break up the fight. I was reprimanded by my coaches, and I yelled back at them. They tried to punish me by not moving me up to at the end of the year, but I was too good, and the varsity coaches needed me, so I moved up anyway.

That's how it works. That was my last season. I was done after that.

My God. I mean, your program sounds so much more intense than mine was. It was very intense. Yeah, because this type of shit... I will say this about go coach beforehand. You wouldn't have put up with that bullshit on our field. He definitely wouldn't.

But you had had a... That school was one of those where it did take football really seriously. We did. We did.

We were good. First year, we were horrible, but the second year, we were very good.

But we were also at two entirely different levels because you're playing in Florida- I have 3,000 kids in my school.

Yeah.

I had 300 people in my town. It's six men, and I played six-man football, which is six guys on each side instead of 11. It's for smaller schools.

We had 60 guys on my squad.

Yeah. We had 55 people in our entire high school. For us, it's entertainment for It's something that gives the... It's there for the town specifically, and that's it. There's not really much else. None of the six-man... There was one dude that I think played a couple of downs of college football that we played against. But otherwise, six-man guys, they ain't making it. No. They ain't even making it to college.

They don't even know how to play the same game, really.

They really don't.

It's an entirely different way of playing the game. But that's the thing. The stakes aren't as high.

In your school, did you guys ever do the thing? There was this game that they played at my school called Everybody Raps Henry. Have you played that game? Did you guys play that game? No, we didn't.

I played it, but I wasn't Henry. Wow.

I was always Henry.

There was a game called Break Marcus's Bones, and they were really good at that. Three guys really won Break Marcus's Bones. Yeah, I bet. In different years.

That's amazing.

Well, now, As a fully aware adult man, when I look at my favorite team- Mostly aware. Mostly aware. Adult man. I look at my favorite team, the Miami Dolphins, and who they are, and I'm disgusted with them. The dude I used to be. I used to let them ruin my week, getting upset, screaming like a maniac as if I had anything to do with the game. After a loss, I wouldn't talk to the people I love, and I would drink my sorrows away. For what reason? Because my favorite TV show didn't go the way I liked it? Today, the Miami Dolphins quarterback, Tua Tungovioloa, has had so many concussions that doctors think he should retire, but he keeps playing because of pride. I watched him almost die in Cincinnati a couple of years ago. The star receiver, Tirek Hill, has multiple domestic abuse incidents, including hitting his pregnant wife with little to no repercussions, all while their owner, Steven Ross, rose $50,000-a-plate fundraising dinners for Trump while Tua plays catch with his grandchildren. I thought to myself, What the fuck am I rooting for? So now I got my Sundays back for one-third of the year, and my general mental health has improved greatly.

Not to mention, check this out, since 2014, the nation's inflation has risen 31%, but going to see the Miami Dolphins price has raised 103%. The poor Detroit Lions fans have dealt with a 201% increase in in ticket sales and in concessions. We all know how rich the citizens of Detroit are.

Oh, yeah.

They're sitting on their gold.

I know what's happening down there.

Going to an NFL game has turned into something reserved only for the elite.

Shit, it's been like that for years. When I was a kid, we couldn't afford to go to Dallas Cowboys games in the '90s.

There used to be a thing for Dolphins games that, I think it was because no one was going, but you could go for five If you bought the tickets at Windexi. That shit don't exist anymore. No. They had a section called the Fun Zone, and that's where the most fights were.

That's where it's called fun. It's fun. We're having fun. We're having our own fun.

Right now, if you want to watch football, it's $378 just to watch the shit on YouTube. It is. It's fucked. It's wild.

For a season pass?

The NFL season ticket or whatever it's called. I was looking at getting it because I wanted to actually fill my Sundays with something. I don't know if I was going to watch football, but I was like, This is insane. It's insane.

Not just that. People deserve to keep politics and football separate, but we all know that's not the case.

Oh, they put it in. They're doing it.

Between blatant military propaganda going on as long as I can remember, along with on September 14th, five NFL teams held moments of silence for the death of Charlie Kirk. This is the same league that regularly silences Black men when they make statements such as, Ruining the career of Colin Kaepernick for silently protesting by kneeling to advocate for police reform, to finding players up to $65,000 for countdown dances, according to their own website. It seems absurd.

You're right.

I might watch a game here and there, but as far as breaking the bank to support a league and team and tradition that uses up their players like their ponds on a chess board, honestly makes me nauseous. I got better things to do than get hammered and yell at a television in my own home like Yosemite Sam. So this Sunday, I'll see you fuckers at the Farmer's Market movie theater or park, making my marriage the best it could possibly be.

Take her someplace nicer. Take her someplace else. No, honestly, great series, Eddie.

Really good work. This is fantastic. Interestingly, the only football that I was watching for the last few years was the Texas Tech Red Raiders. Our mascot, Raider Red, looks a lot like Yosimity Sam.

You know what she watched more of? It's basketball.

Yeah. Yeah, because there's nothing bad with that. No, man.

No, but they don't get... It's not like this. They allow them to protest. They get more. They have more access to it. They do a little bit more social things. It's a fun game. I suppose a great alternative.

Baseball playups are about to start. Baseball's boring.

Baseball starts.

Start in the fourth ending. It's a lot easier to take.

Baseball is the one place that I... Baseball, to me, is the one sport that's better at... It's the only sport for me that's better at the park.

Oh, yeah. It's way better at the park.

Everything else is better on television.

I find basketball extraordinarily dull. I love it. I like basketball.

But they made it... Now that it's all three points, it's not as fun.

You know what it is partly for me as well? It's squieking. I can't take the squeaking.

But if you go to a pro basketball game, they just have straight up DJs now playing during the- It's the blast.

That's why it's awesome. That's how we went to the Staples Center. It was a blast.

Please, Crypto. Com Arena. Thank you. Thank you for break to me.

Good work, Eddie.

Great job, Ben. It's a fucking great series.

I want to thank Grant, who helped me with the last episode, Grant Gordon, and Pat Barker, a roast writer extraordinaire, who helped me with today's script.

That's amazing. Really good fucking work. We are still operating. No matter what we've said, no matter what we've done, we continue forward and we will still- Just like a drunk doctor who won't leave the hospital. We are just going to barrel forward just like Aaron Hernandez. We're going to go head up, chest out, into this new realm, and you could help us on patrian. Com/lastpodcastsandleft. Help us get cultural CTE with our approach to content making.

Coming up this next week, we have a series that, like I said, we've been working on it for months upon months upon months.

Not even a joke. It's almost a year. This is going to be an absolutely massive series.

I don't think anyone's going to be able to call what it is either.

No. It's an absolutely massive series, and it starts a new running series that we will be returning to here on Last Podcast Network. I mean, it's a big fucking deal. We got a lot of stuff.

I think we can at least tease the name of this series.

The Mount Rushmore of Evil.

We've got four chosen, and we're going to be going through them one by one. They're all massive stories, and some of them are quite relevant.

Quite relevant.

It's including the one that we're about to get into.

Extremely, extremely relevant. We're really, really excited. It's going to be both funny and might bum you out. It's going to be funny. But then I go, that's our thing.

You're going to hear some of the worst shit that you've ever heard on this show on this series.

We're going to make it light. You're going to love it.

No.

All right, fuckers, go look at our socials that LP on the left. Oh, I have a movie that I'm working on. Yes. Go to ufo. Movie. Give me money. This is the kickstarter for my new movie, unbelievably friendly organisms. They don't want me to make this movie, so I need to make it with my own goddamn hands. They? Come on in there. They. Yeah, man. They. My wife. My wife and family. No, you come out and see this. Marcus has a part in it. He has no choice. Eddie's got a part in it.

Everybody else-I also don't have a choice.

You don't have a choice. And then, wow, yeah, you can come join me, Amber Nash and Jenna Hayes. But we're going to have a big old bunch of other people that we're going to be announcing soon as well.

I got a cool thing coming up, too. I wanted to tell people about. On October 12th, I just booked this shit. On the 11th, we're doing Milwaukee. On the 12th, I'm taking my big ass to Madison. I'm going to be at Comedy on State with Logan Metz, the piano player from Lucas Nelson and the Promise of the Real. Oh, it's awesome. He's got his own album coming out, so he's going to open with a bunch of those fucking songs, and then I'm going to come out and do my thing for an hour. You all come out and see us over at Comedy on State. That's October 12th, Madison, Wisconsin. It's awesome.

Oh, yeah.

Also, we're on tour. Obviously, we're going to be in Milwaukee on October 11th, but then Oakland on October 25th. I don't know where we're going to be on 29th yet. Did we decide? Did we fix that?

I believe it's still in the works.

But we are fixing it somewhere close.

Somewhere close. It is just not yet done. It's not yet finally.

Then on December 12th and 13th, we're going to be in Portland, Oregon. Please, we got some new shows for 2026 about to be announced. Stay I can't wait to fucking keep this train going.

We're going to have a lot of fun. Can't wait. You fucker. See you guys in God damn. Other places in these. Healthy.

Again?

Oh, boy. Who do I like? Who do I like? Who do I like? Hale, Pat Barker. Thanks for your help, buddy.

Really good work.

Every neighbor got their flavor. Oh, yeah. Can somebody say just me? He keeps them kids in line. Three little words, it's dinner time. Head sets down for some I-R-R-L. It's the O-M-G we all did smell. Have you seen Brian? Think he's made a new sign? Tasty number nine from the man you were arriving.

Whoever you are, whatever your flavor.

Every neighbor got their flavor. Did somebody say, Just feet?

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